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Finally. The Izzet and Selesnya menaces have been defeated. Now we can return to good, honest Magic which consists solely of Dimir raping the game like it has for 35 years.

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>>98531641

I think is safe to assume this game is COOKED beyond salvation

>>98531721
It has been since they decided to make fucking Garfield cards in MtG.
And Spongebob, too.

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I've only played limited and 60 cards online, never have I touched physical or EDH. However, I bought the Miku deck in order to flip it but the prices I'm seeing aren't anything special so I'm a genuine Mikufag so I'm kinda tempted to switch over to EDH.

Is EDH really as bad as people here say it is? I've been in this general since Arena/Amonkhet came out so I'll just ask here, it might be the only way I'll ever play "physical/real" magic

>>98531671
No Simic deck in standard?

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>>98531746
I will never not be mad about the fact that It That Betrays and Void Winnower reprints were wasted on cartoon shit

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SEXO SEXO SEXO WITH WITCH SEXOOOOOOOOOOOO I'M FUCKEN CUMMMMIIIIINNNNGGGGGG

>>98531885
I still want my potato peeler, faggot

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Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home...

>TQ
Candice

>>98531671
>mono green landfall back on top
Good, fuck selesnya

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Thread Question

>>98531671
funny how monog is on top and none of the other decks use green at all

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>>98532217
lol that nigger fucked me up so hard when I was spamming red deck wins on MTGA

Also TQ: Nostalgia only reason, first rare I ever got in the terrible starter set where I played blue and my brother red

>3 more weeks until fractured butthole leaks
Grim.

Why grim? Beautiful. The last set of the year. Jace arc.

>>98531885
kek, bought a copy

>>98531534
I'm disappointed he doesn't have the Uncle creature type like the original.

Pre

Modern

>>98531671
Just look at all that powerful mono white card meta
Oh wait, it’s still kiked.

>>98533502
There's no mono black or blue either. But there's 5 white decks total. And only one green.

>>98531671
>Landfall followed by 3 decks that win by handripping you
Genuinely atrocious meta.

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>>98531534
> TQ
Coincidentally, black is my favorite color.

I don't know why people say force BR in hobbit draft, if I lose it's always to UW even when I get incredibly good bombs and removal.

they will add more options of which set to draft soon right?

>>98532217
I do wish we had more powerful cards with no hybrid/generic mana costs
Like, all counter magic should be UU(U), so you can't just splash the colour like Izzet does and have access to the best tools it has

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>>98533502
?

>>98534155
Oh but when I say monoG landfall needs more payoffs for GGGG suddenly it's a problem.

I sneed mono-red aggro with like 8 rares invested to be good again, bring back embercleave

>>98534169
>landfall
That's the issue
It's funny, I recently watched one of MaRo's little talks and I think Landfall was his 3rd most successful mechanic or some shit
And it makes sense that it's really popular, people like the dopamine hit of "do thing you'd normally do = get rewarded"
But fuck me do I hate it

>>98533578
Discard is the only fun archetype next to control.

>>98533502
Every color is represented in 5 of the top 10 decks, except G, which is top of the food chain.

>>98531671
Neither of my lists is in the top ten
The meta has healed... off meta Chads... we won

>>98534155
You are only picking up on a fraction of the underlying issue.
Mana bases are too good for no cost. JotC hates printing any kind of nonbasic hate and dual land cycles continue to get better and better. You could pay W turn 1, UU turn 2, and 1GG turn 3 without very much difficulty and there's fuck all your opponent has to punish you in any format that isn't legacy, vintage, or very specific modern decks.

The fundamental tradeoff in the game is that mono color decks have glaring weaknesses due to the color pie but they are rewarded by never getting color screwed. Mana bases got so good that there was no reason to ever go monocolored so instead of adding nonbasic hate, they just started giving every color answers to everything and homogenizing color identity.

>>98534301
what you playin?

>>98534328
They should have printed Wasteland at uncommon in Foundations.

>>98534328
I feel like once you get into 3/4cmc territory, it becomes much harder to consistently cast spells in non-monocoloured decks without some massive luck
Like, you're not casting Obliterator on curve in any of the Standard decks that run around these days unless you draw like a god
>Mana bases got so good
Shocks have been around for 20 years now, and we should be thank the Reserved List for keeping the Alpha duals in check, else who knows what kinda abominations we could've gotten by now

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>>98531764
Most EDH players are pretty chill and welcoming to new players but people will avoid playing with you if your attitude sucks or you constantly play above the power level of whichever table you’re playing with.

Imo you should go out of your way to avoid players that smell like shit, are disgusting, take crazy long turns for no reason, act like dickheads or constantly play over the bracket of the table. You’re going to sit at the same table for upwards of a couple of hours at a time unless your lgs has a culture of constantly moving people around so try to value your own time.

For variety I’d bring at least three decks with you. A precon or some other loosely put together deck so you can play with shitters, a deck where you’ve put a lot of time and effort into it so that it could stand toe to toe with some higher bracket decks and something inbetween, to achieve that I’d build a semi optimised deck around a theme that you intend on experimenting a bit with.

>>98534378
>Like, you're not casting Obliterator on curve in any of the Standard decks that run around these days unless you draw like a god
then I guess there is no issue at all

>>98534225
>Go first
>Win
>Go second
>Lose
Great archetype I can see why people love it.

>>98534399
commander is so fuckin cringe LEL

>>98534428
I would assume that these same principles apply to any real life card game interaction.

>but people will avoid playing with you if you constantly play above the power level of whichever table you’re playing with

>>98534328
MonoG landfall is the best deck in the game right now so if there was no cost to extra colors then surely it would be 4c sludge like control.

>>98534246
>EvERy COloR Is RePREsenTEd
Still no mono white winning decks ever since FIRE design in 2018 you facetious kikesucker

>>98534507
>MonoG landfall is the best deck in the game right
source?

>>98534160
There have literally been zero mono white tournament winning decks in Standard for 8 years you lying kike

>>98534532
>>98531671

>>98534534
oh, you're retarded...

>>98534533
And? No mono blue either.

>>98533574
Mono blue had its time with Tempo
Mono black had its time with Kamigawa Neon Dynasty
Mono red had ITS time with all the bans from Mighty Mouse decks and Screaming Nemesis
Now mono green has its time again
Mono White literally never had a tier one winning deck despite JOTC kike lies to push its power level. Fuck off with your kike gaslighting.

>>98534542
Not an argument.

>>98534551
best =/= most popular

>>98534553
I'm sure everyone doing these challenges on MTGO is choosing their deck just for funsies and not win chance.

>>98534566
thats the entirety of your argument?

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>>98534547
Look at these decks. Only few of them winning, but the only mono decks doing so in this sample.

>>98534547
>Mono White
uhmm sweetie that is problematic

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>>98531534
>TQ
Look at this dude.

>>98534573
Yes and it's more than just saying "retard" with no counterpoint like an armchair philosopher that just says everyone else's arguments are flawed while proposing no research of their own.

>>98534656
you are confusing meta percentage with win percentage

>>98534668
Win percentage just means Spiders Georg that got put in baby pool allegedly has the best deck with 100% winrate (sample size 1)

>>98534775
>Spiders Georg that got put in baby pool allegedly has the best deck with 100% winrate
thats statically true tho

My hot, modern MTG take is that the old UB border frames were better than slapping them onto the 2015 frames.

>>98534333
Orzhov Sephiroth Aristocrats is my main but lately the fucking """control""" meta we were supposed to get has, in my cluster, been exclusively lists that vomit out value and cheat big board such that a Day of Judgement on 4 makes 80% of them scoop before it resolves.
As such my pet list right now is this Death to our Enemies / DoJ / Plainswalkers and Capstone goodstuf pile. Its usually way too slow but this meta I'm experiencing is perfect for it. BIG BLACK PLAINSWALKERS

>>98534547
Anyone who thinks Black isn't strong right now hasn't had to deal with Unholy Annex on curve

Dont those "metagame analyzers" only take into account top tournament placements? You need Untapped data for ladder info. I see a lot of Landfall on the ladder but I don't know if its number one.

>>98533502
white is extremely powerful right now, what the fuck are you whining about you faggot
just practiced offense is enough to push you to run white, which includes strong white creatures like VoV or Hardened Academic

>>98531764
>Is EDH really as bad as people here say it is?
ummm you attacked me with a random 1/1 token on turn 2, you're targeting me so now I'm going to exclusively remove or counter your stuff for the rest of the night

>>98534421
>Stick a t1 threat
>Force them to use mana on removal
>Stick a larger threat
>Win
Wow

>>98534527
Mono colored decks being top tier outside of R is typically pretty rare, retard.

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>>98531918
Nein!

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>>98534898
>Orzhov Sephiroth Aristocrats

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1vrsq6q/opinion_unlike_sophie_cunningham_the_trans_women/

>Amulet now on low tier 2 status
>Its players now on Devoted Druid combo ever since their non deterministic loop got nerfed
Thank fuck, the last major Ive been in got delayed for an hour since those retards cant play the deck properly

>>98535013
This is really funny to reddit since erm, check notes, they are all trannies

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Does anyone have one of these?

The Bible UB when?

>>98535354
Magic is woke so it's more likely that they make a Qoran UB first, since the prophet is LGBTQ+ for the Al-Zutt typal.

>>98535354
>>98535369
UB Religions of the World
W: Christianity
U: Judaism
B: Buddhism
R: Islam
G: tribal heya hoya animism

Then Whiteschizo can feel extra persecuted

>>98535410
>islam isn’t green

>>98535410
B isn't Judaism?

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>>98535465
Efreets, explosions and self-destruction are thematically red tbqh. Maybe it's Turkey!

>>98535504
Buddhism is all about annihilating the self which is a pretty cool direction to take B I think. U is also a color of scheming and, of course, WotC's favorite color.

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We're entering pokemon """player""" territory so hard now.

>>98535523
>Entering
What do you think the reserved list is for?

>>98535535
nu-males are basedfacing over collecting RL cards?

>>98535523
Mousecucks aren't real people

>>98535541
What do you think Magic was always about? People that liked a good story? Lmao this is MtG we're talking about.

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>>98535547
>People that liked a good story?
Yep, that's me!

>>98535586
Name one.

>>98535589
Nicol Bolas coming out as gay.

>>98535354
The Mount Meggido spell set on Israel.

>>98535597
Okay never mind that's based.

>>98535589
Nicol Bolas coming out as gay.

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Who else loves going rawdog?

>>98535597
>>98535606
So-called "free thinking" /mtg/ posters

>>98535589
Nissa and Chandra defeating Eldrazi with a literal Channel–Fireball combo.
>>98535646
You've got it backwards. They're free **from** thinking.

>>98535410
How would Dimir be drafted?
It'd be better to divide them by cdrafting pairs.
WU- Judaism
UB- Wiccas
BR- Satanism
RG- Shinto
GW- Christianity
WB- Vodou
UR- Sikhism
BG- Hinduism
RW- Islam
GU- Buddhism

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>>98535600

>>98535646
He's actually a /edhg/ poster that spams cards when he doesn't get his way.

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>>98535589
Oh man I can't believe I get to reuse this meme again lol

>>98535744
Personally I was fine with this, I just didnt like how they killed 2 Eldrazi Titans with fire

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>>98535744
fvark!
i kneel

>>98535589
Brothers' War is the go to one but personally I'm fond of the Odyssey-Onlsaught cycle.

>>98535646
It's just one furfag redditor trying to force a "meme" about his fetish of gay sex with animals.

>>98535736
>>98535783
MaRo seething his Marvel ripoff got mogged by gay bolas fanfic

>>98535766
did this ever see play

>>98531885
Made for bbc

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>>98531764
The last time I played edh, two people (a Magic boomer and ub Marvel zoomer) almost went at it after arguing and insult each other and the unpaid store employee "volunteering" his hours had to intervene.

So yeah, EDH is pretty bad, but hey, EDH is the only format where you can make Miku your general.

>>98535632
Why would someone do this? Boseiju is a $50 card

>>98531764
You should only play EDH with people you personally know, as opposed to randoms at a store, who started the game and have extensive experience with 60 card. It's fine if they've 'retired' from 60 card gameplay as long as it was their main thing at one point.

Playing with randoms is a bad idea
Playing with people who don't understand steps, phases and basic game rules is a bad idea
Playing with people who started in the era of FIRE is a bad idea
Playing with people who started because of UB crossovers is a bad idea
Playing with people who don't focus on the game is a bad idea
Playing with people who treat the game as an opportunity for social interaction more than a game is a bad idea

If you have a friend group that can support the above, by all means go ahead. If you don't, then don't bother. EDH was originally conceived as a casual way to play with weird and wacky cards but has morphed into a bring-your-own-pieces board game.

>>98535993
You just described 90% of MtG's consumer base right now.

>>98535996
and thats why EDH is CRINGE!

>>98536008
MtG not hipster enough for local hipster.

>>98536011
lowkey unc

>>98535632
God I wish I was Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire so the Emperor would sit on my face

unban monstrous rage

>>98535632
>Adios
I miss her

>>98535993
You had me until the last one. The only reason I would EVER play paper magic is for the *gulp* social interaction.

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HEHE CHOCOBO DECEIT CHOCOBO DECEIT I'M HAVING SO MUCH FUN ALTERNATING BETWEEN CHOCOBO AND DECEIT EVERY GAME

>>98534547
Is MH3 not making White the best color in Modern not good enough or were the kikes just out of the office for those few months?

Did one of you niggas get lost on /vg/

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>>98536631
im where i always am

>>98534224
Making landfall deciduous was a mistake. It was alright with it when it was mostly contained to zendikar sets so it would come and go from standard but having it as a permanent fixture now is getting old

>>98531764
do you like the idea of constantly having to make gay deals, agreements, having other players constantly ask you to do or not do stuff, deciding whether to interact or not depending on some random shit that happened earlier and wanting games to last at least a predetermined number of turns?
if you felt the need for all these things commander is for you

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>>98535744

>>98535151
Not buff enuf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YpZAE4SLYs

>>98535759
Channel + Fireball for the classic combo

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imagine opponent losing with this board
by exactly lethal
god I love this list

Play

Premodern

>>98536959
should have kept some carnisaur as actual removal

>>98535586
You can just say you got brutally raped in a tourney so you cope with the lore.
Cropophages like you belong in gas chambers.

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>>98537057
OK, since I actually play Premodern I'll talk about it. I really enjoy playing Goblins. I prefer mono red. This is what I'm playing currently:

Goblins

Creatures - 36
4 Goblin Lackey
4 Mogg Fanatic
2 Skirk Prospector
4 Goblin Piledriver
1 Goblin Tinkerer
4 Goblin Matron
4 Goblin Warchief
4 Gempalm Incinerator
1 Goblin Sharpshooter
4 Goblin Ringleader
1 Goblin Goon
3 Siege-Gang Commander

Lands - 24
16 Mountains
4 Wasteland
4 Rishadan Port

SB - 15
4 Pyrokinesis
3 Pyroblast
3 Tormod's Crypt
3 Overload
1 Goblin Goon
1 Sparksmith

Goblin decks are going to look 90% the same. There are not many flex slots. Even the green splashing decks are just playing Tranquility effects + Naturalize in the SB. Goon is good against mono black because its hard to kill and good against Engineered Plague. Tinkerer is good against Dreadnought but that's mostly it. In the SB, Sparksmith is nuts against a lot of different creatures based decks that aren't Sligh.

The deck is relatively cheap if you don't care about card frame with only Waste and Port being relatively expensive unless you go for gold borders.

I like Goblins the best out of any Premodern deck because it doesn't have to sacrifice power for consistency. Even with tons of hate in the meta and unfavorable matchups in the top tiers I never feel hopeless. The SB helps a lot of course but you can just high roll and: mana screw your opponent, kill turn 3 thanks to Goblin Lackey or just spam powerful SB cards to win. In addition, Goblins scales well with player skill unlike many other decks with a lower skill ceiling. In short, I think it is the best deck in Premodern in the hands of a great player.

Please saar play premodern saar
Buy my old cards saar they are very cheap, great investment for great format saar!!
Saar please buy them I need tix and dollar to buy cow dung and travesty semen house in Hyldebrazildarab!

>>98537174
Chatgpt response

>>98537197
Maybe I'm just feeding a troll here but what did I say sounds like it was compiled by an AI? Do you play PM?

>>98535980
>>98536108
>>98536503
https://www.reddit.com/r/mtg/comments/1vt7hl2/who_else_enjoys_heavily_played_cards/
Weird
>>98537230
Don't reply to bait and add two copies of Anarchy in your Goblin sideboard. You will thank me later.

>>98537250
Good point, I should know better.

Anarchy is good but there are not a lot of Replenish/Enchantress decks in my meta and any WW deck is easily dealt with via PK.

>>98537250
Heavily played cards have history.
I try to buy them because of that, they shall be given no rest.

>>98537270
"There isn't a lot of x" is how you drop top 8s.
Don't ask me how I know, just know I do.

>>98537434
Not sure what you're trying to say anon but your SB should reflect the expected meta.

>>98537439
To a degree.
Going unprepared vs a bad match you could dumpster on via anarchy means you just waiver away win % on a huge gamble.
It's like not bringing grave hate because "not a lot of graveyard decks".

>>98537445
Correct but that's not the only factor in play. For Replenish you already have Crypt + REB. The postboard games can be grindy so you don't want to water your deck down with non-Goblin cards. Enchantress is a hard matchup and Anarchy is only required against Enchantress. The cost/benefit of splashing green means you lose points against many other matchups. You aren't trashing white enchantment decks with just two Anarchy.

I don't disagree with the main thrust of your argument but it doesn't map out onto the wider Premodern metagame in my experience.

>>98537434
>Heavily played cards have history.
I try to buy them because of that, they shall be given no rest.
No, it's just weird three posters replied to a repost from fucking Reddit

>>98537481
Oh yeah.
There is like, 5 posters here, 4chan is slowly dying.

>>98537469
I'm just warning you, if you eat shit because anarchy remember it was your fault.

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>>98531534
>mtg on an endless UB flood
I'd to read again the lore of real mtg. Sadly I lost all my pdfs when my phone got stolen last week.
Could someone please help me with the pdfs of the Thran and Brothers' War?
Thanks in advance.

>>98536616
Formats are segregated. Kikes don’t want White to ever be strong or featured in Standard so they divided the design teams.

>>98537603
Anon, I've been playing Magic longer than you've been alive. If you were really trying to help me you would have given me counterarguments instead of this nonsense. You do know what an argument is, right?

>>98537738
Why?

>>98534967
>>98534988
Still no mini white standard tournament winning decks after 8 years and Gavin’s lies to fix it, kikes. Facts don’t care about your kvetching.

>>98537750
Because Nosewater and Gavin Kikey run the Standard and EDH design teams and leave Modern and Legacy to older players who are’nt such biased kikes. And even then the only cards banned from “Boros” energy were a red and multicolor card.

>>98537701
sorry about your phone anon

>>98537774
NTA But Guide, Pride and Ajani are as good or better cards than what was banned. The decks main strength is Guide and Pride openings or Ajani and Bombardment in mid/late game. The first 3 are White cards printed out of thin air and the last was a card never legal in the format. The deck doesn't work if you break up Guide + Pride. I play Energy. If any of those cards are gone, the deck doesn't exist. You're just moving the goalposts. "WotC doesn't care about White" except when they print the first, second and third best White creatures of all time. You'd be better off saying that WotC was trolling you in particular when they made MH3.

>>98537745
I'm older than you lilgup and have more tourney wins and top 8 than you've got bdays.

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>>98535744
Now with UB!

>>98537914
Still no arguments present. Would you like me to break down what an argument consists of?

>>98535759
Yeah but it was a time when WotC's storylines were obviously just copying whatever popular film was happening at the time. So we went from Justice League to MCU in a couple of years

>>98538347
Lmao

Is this game dead? What the fuck we just got a new set and there is a new one coming... Where is the hype?

>>98538720
Go to edhg.

>>98538555
Someday you'll join a real tournament with more than single digit players lil gup.

>>98538593
You say this like this isn't Magic's entire history.
>Hmm urban fantasy is popular because of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Let's make Ravnica!
>Hmm vampires and werewolves are popular because of the Twilight novels. Let's make Innistrad!

>>98538720
Yeah its cooked broski.
>>98538772
Absolutely bodied that freakazoid

>>98538786
Im very sure fucking buffy the vampire slayer had nothing to do with ravnica but you may be on to something with twilight.

>>98538794
This is literally the premise in their original design documents.

>>98538720
nobody here wants a coomander set

>>98538720
UB was a mistake, yes.

>>98537859
Eat shit kike.
No tier1 standard white decks since 2018
No mono white dominance like every other color gets to have for years.
Gavin Kikey still lied.

>>98539188
When? Because I asked you before if you remember watched the video image from you always post. And if I recall, the video was about white getting more flash, and commander things.

>>98539188
See >>98534160

>>98538814
No it wasnt dude source or headcanon

>>98537174
How do you beat Oath with this?

>>98537434
I think if you only play small events you can get away with omitting certain pieces of hate. Noone plays fast graveyard combo in legacy at my LGS so I usually skip Faerie Macabre and Leyline, instead preferring RiP, Nihil Spellbomb etc to fight slow graveyard stuff like Loam.

>>98537701
https://mega.nz/folder/ZkcAyKwZ#CCTN7l0AyEA2qrQTtvmkPg
There's probably some in here

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>>98531534
These two. Either a big beatstick or any color mana dork, both cases are always useful.

Sometimes I just run monocolor decks because I got triggered from getting color screwed and cope that this would never happen in monocolor.

>>98531534
Follow up question has anyone ever put together a monocolor deck in draft/sealed?
I've done multicolor decks in drafts every single time, and I'm wondering if building a good monocolor deck is even possible. Maybe you could manage if you add a lot of artifacts.

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heliod bros I'm thinking we are back in pioneer

>>98540667
Well ok now show me the deck

>>98540297
They said they wanted to do a horror set but were only allowed to once the executives saw how popular Twilight was.

>>98540697
>show me the deck
too tired, I still have to make it, I only just now noticed the interaction
maybe I'll post it tomorrow

>>98540488
Yes, I've done that. The first time I ever played paper draft I ended up going mono red and did surprisingly well considering how little I knew what I was doing, and my only 7-0 trophy run in arena was a mono-green lorwyn draft.

>>98540667
>>98540742
I added it to a generic soul sisters counters mono white deck, as alternative wincon. Seems to be Woking.

>>98541017
>woking
Is that the new word for playing UB cards

>>98541017
>Woking
Kek very fitting for a combo with an UB card

Play

Pre

Modern

>>98541407
I legit would if the only in-person paper event were hosted anywhere else than south america.

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>>98534428
at least its not standard though amirite?

>>98534547
>pic rel
mono white literally won the 1996 Worlds dude. whats your problem

>>98534842
the 2015-current frame is so horrible I am now systemically getting rid of all my basics with that frame, and replacing as many cards as possible with mid 2014 and earlier versions. anything I can't find in that gets future sight frame or full art or cut.

multicolor and hybrid mana cards are especially heinous in the contemporary frame. just black abyss of shit for an entire 1/14th of the card on the bottom.

>>98535597
this never happened

>>98535632
this is from sandpaper

>>98535589
the Weatherlight saga with Urza, Karn, Jhoria, Sisay, Squee & the Skyship Weatherlight + Legacy Weapon is dope. garth one eye's story is cool (1994 book called Arena)

>>98531764
>trvth nvke for this general:
commander is the only fun way to play magic in 2026. unless you have 10s of thousands of dollars to play vintage and race each game to see who will draw a lotus and their mox first (but its actually really fun to play those cards so its fun actually)

>>98541424
>at least its not standard though amirite?
Standard is easily, EASILY less cringe than commander, even as wizards breaks it in half because they're dipshits.

You guys got any suggestions for a case or something to hold a set of d6? I'm looking for something the size of a card so it can fit with my decks in the deck holder.

>>98541424
>commander is the only fun way to play magic in 2026
yeah.... if your gay or sumthin LOL

>>98541424
>This never happened
Source?

>>98541424
I really can't understand how someone could have fun with Coomander... Is beyond me

>>98537174
Goblins actually comes in a lot of flavors.
>mono R: Wasteland + Port
>mono R: Ancient Tomb go fast
>mono R: Sneak Attack Mogg Bomber combo
>RG: Port + Naturalize + Tranquil Domain side
>RG: Survival
>RB: Terminate + Volrath's Stronghold + Dralnu's Crusade in the side to beat E Plague
>RW: FUCKED mana but Swords + Disenchant + Shared Triumph + another quality 2 drop
I've seen some people mess around with UR but it isn't good. RW mana is tough but the card quality is so high people try to play it anyways. As far as meta decks go, Goblins has a lot of viable flavors and can be tuned to specific metagames or pilot preference. You're right that lists change mostly by land base difference + 6-10 cards
I think Goblins keeps the meta honest but please don't call it big brain lol. Collecting free wins from punishing bad keeps with T1 Lackey does not take skill, neither does Porting your opponent off their 4 cost spells. Glad you're having fun and thanks for making Replenish cucks sweat, but holy FUCK I hate your deck and I hope we never pair

>>98541552
play creature attack face is the highest form of skill expression in magic tho

>>98541424
Mass replying faggot

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I'm loving it!

>>98541780
WotC already working hard on sanitizing Bolas so they can get the gay furry audience.

>>98541424
>unless you have 10s of thousands of dollars to play vintage
you could make a dredge deck on mtgo for like $50

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>>98541416
>wigger thinks Massachusetts is in South America

>>98542045
I'd rather go to Brazil.

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>>98542049
other card games are going to Brazil

>>98542049
Good, fuck off and die in Brazil, ignorant wigger.

>>98542068
Brazil has big tiddy goth girls?

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When's Homelands the sequel?

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Be honest
Have you ever cheated?

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>>98531534
I <3 triple-mana pips in the casting cost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDQ7UAQAZxM
Play premodern lil gups

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FELL ~ this card should cost BB.

>>98540488
For draft mono colour is definitely doable. Some sets will even occasionally add mono colour build arounds like Avatar to push people towards it.

For sealed, mono colour doesn't tend to work since it's rare you'll have 23 playable/ good cards of a single colour in your pool so you often need to go multi colour just to have a functional deck.

>>98542283
How do you feel about Krond the Dawn-Clad? Does he have the best mana cost?

>>98542272
Holy FUCK that's a bad card
Like, I know old Legends used to be dogshit but usually they come with decentish stats

>>98542427
No, BB would have drawback.

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USPS has been holding my cards hostage for 3 days now. They've been at my local post office ready to go out for delivery for 3 days now

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>>98540697
>>98541017
I'm >>98540742, here's my first draft
I stole the manabase and overall core from a boros goblins list that splashed white for raise the past, sometimes I wish I had more fables but I find hard to run more 3-drops without making the deck clunkier
I've managed to combo-kill people twice, but I've killed more people by going wide with goblins

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>>98543139

>>98543149
ok that looks smarter, I'll try it out

>>98535410
>Buddhism: B
How on earth did you get that conclusion

If anything B should be Judaism. The beating chickens to death to absorb your sin shit is pure black.

Buddhism's color typing is harder to say.

Zen is either 5c or colorless. Or both

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>>98543260
>spoiler
yes

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>>98535410
WB: Catholicism

>>98541925
without a doubt on MTGO. a black lotus is $45 on there too. I opened a bazaar of Baghdad ($3 card on there) in some player pack I got in like 2015

but I'm talking paper

>>98541678
stay mad homo

>>98541525
look at the state of standard, commander you get all the good cards except the power 9 (library taking the place of time twister in this exception). you'd have to be obtuse to why the long term player base has largely moved onto commander and abandoned standard & modern and no other 60 card format has come even close to commanders popularity. (why because its fun and the card pool is good)

when 95% new players join MTG they join to play commander not standard

>>98542068
>>98542103
South of Brazil is mostly European (slav, german, italian, french, portuguese, etc) while the north has more black people.

>>98535719
>WU- Judaism
Disagree. UB maybe.
>UB- Wiccas
Wicca isnt even a real religion. Its tumblr.
>BR- Satanism
Kek
>RG- Shinto
Weird. Shinto is monowhite, maybe WGU.
>GW- Christianity
BW
>WB- Vodou
Wtf
>UR- Sikhism
I guess, i dont know much about sikhism
>BG- Hinduism
Pretty good. Maybe even BGU.
>RW- Islam
Kek, pretty good
>GU- Buddhism
Ehhhh. Not a great fit. But I'm not sure what is. GU seems like a better taoism.

Dick sucking retards

dead game, dead general

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It's honestly weird coming from literally any other piece of entertainment media and seeing WotC's social media completely barren in terms of replies.

>>98544090
But who killed it? Let me answer: (You)

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>>98544039

>>98544106
Commander did. Long live Magic.

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I've actually started pulling a random card off Scryfall every single day
It's a fun little ritual
Today I got these bad boys

>opponents
Stopped reading there.

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>>98544142
Retard-kun, I know you're too fucking stupid to have coherent thoughts - or contribute anything meaningful to the thread, but at least you could learn how to reply to posts

>an opponent
Stopped reading there

>Coalition
Stopped reading there.

>>98544149
I had a friend in mercadian masques that played green pump shit, and this was my high iq counter to his deck. Simpler days.

>>98543260
Buddhism seems to be a Blue/White mix.

Still no word on Loots whereabouts im starting to get worried bros…

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>>98543318

>>98544393
only way to refeel this is cube with similar cards imo
like try deftblade elite, he's so fucking cool and tricky, one of my favourite cards (almost mistook it with deft duelist, which is also a cool card but in a different way)

>>98544643
It was just the fun beginning of any magic player. You make a deck with whatever shit you got. You add cards to fuck over your friends. Massive jank pile, but its yours. Netdecking is prohibited. Buying singles is against the soul, everyone just plopped boosters. Rare cards are rare to see.

Impossible to get back to that.

>>98544696
Sounds like you didn't actually do any research into what you were buying and just decided to gamble like a retard.

>>98544805
>why was a 10 year old who just got into magic just buying packs in 1999 instead of researching

kys

>>98544696
as i said - cube is closest

>>98544393
It's still a thing in pauper. Playing a flagbearer to fuck over basilisk gate and some other interactions feels great.

>>98543604
It was mostly design around Abrahamic religions.

White is Abrahamic religions with Judaism being Blue due to it's anti-nature worship and its motto being fix the world, Vodou is Black based on Haitian Vodou with it more powerful lwa being the most evil and Christianity is Green just to fit in and universal love.

Black is heresy and new religions with Hinduism put their because it fits Black. Wiccas is blue because I needed a popular new religion, Hinduism is black because it has many new religions and Satanism is red because most Satanist are libertarian.

Green is Asian religions that believe in reincarnation and based on Hinduism. Buddhism is Blue because of its tenets of escaping reincarnation by attaining the perfect state of Nirvana, Hinduism is Black because its belief that that good karma gives greater rewards in the next and widow burning in order game the reincarnation system, and Shinto is red just to fit in.
Sikhism is a popular religion so I just included it just because.

>>98543604
Here's a new list with the Abrahamic religions in Black.

WU- Jainism
UB- Judaism
BR- Christianity
RG- Animism
GW- Shinto
WB- Islam
UR- UFO cults
BG- Hinduism
RW- Sikhism
GU- Buddhism

not Magic The Gathering

>>98535719
>>98543604
>>98545061
>>98545141
>everything needs to be multicolor
Commander brainrot has gone too far
WE USED TO BE A REAL GAME

>>98544814
Why was a 10 year old buying packs

>>98545207
MtG used to be a game kids could afford to play

>>98545194
thanks to UB, everything is magic now

>>98543260
>How on earth did you get that conclusion
If you actually study the tenets of Buddhism you'll get it. It's sort of close to the black hole cult in EoE in fact.

>>98544596
He'll be in reality fracture. Evil Loot is actually the BBEG. Evil Loot makes all the womyns have bigger breasts instead of giving them masectomies. Evil Loot has white fur. Evil Loot is a chud who enjoys the female form. Evil Loot doesn't like UB. Evil Loot doesn't think trans women are real women.

>>98545230
The black hole cult is literally Evangelism. The actually tenets of Buddhism seeking to dispel false delusions and minimize suffering. Black is about suffering to maximize rewards since nothing in life is free.

>>98545206
Ravnica is commander bait

>>98545206
That was a decade ago you have to let it go.

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>>98545216
$300 for an Academy deck was something kids could afford?

>>98545207
A pack was like $7 at target

>>98545372
Try half of that. I used to pay with quarters.

reality fracture spoilers when

>>98545207
What else would a 10 year old be doing?

>>98545372
I paid less than 20$ for my gold border world champion deck back then, packs were like 3 or 4 bucks. I have a sealed '98 world championship deck with the vhs that still has the price sticker on it, $11.95.

you guys wanna play a game of commander? im running a nickelodeon tribal deck with spongebob as the commander

>>98545840
I rather kill myself.

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>>98545217
>thanks to UB, everything is magic now
except references to Abrahamic religions. these are banned because it puts the focus on how violent those groups are, and risks that violence turning on Hasbro.

What's your opinion for best packs to crack, monetary value aside? OG zendikar and the dominaria united collectors for the chances at random older cards seem like the most interesting to me

>>98545885
>What's your opinion for best packs to crack
Buying singles is the best way to go. Packs are for drafts.

>>98545885
why would you open packs if you weren't trying to get a gambler's high?

>>98545904
That's a valid opinion, so state your favorite packs to crack for draft then

>>98545913
The gamblers high doesn't have to be off the raw card value alone though, like I would rather open older lower value cards then serialized cards.

>>98543139
>>98543149
after testing these a little more it only further cements my opinion that walking ballista is totally safe to unban, having to invest 4+ mana into your creature combo in pioneer with shit like lessons, prowess and black midrange running around feels insanely difficult
hell, I'm not even sure winota would be as good as the current cub version of green devotion

Starting health should be 25 to account for the aggro power creep

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This is what I'm playing right now in Premodern. I'm currently testing -1 Flash of Insight for +1 Impulse. The SB is great sans the singleton Chain of Vapor which has only been exactly fine in testing. I've considered adding another Keg in it's place to help against Moneyball Black. The Essence Flares have really helped a lot against the red decks.

>>98546024
that would be retarded

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>>98546064
I should switch my dreadnought deck over to monoblue, right now it's got black splashed in. but I have all the cards for the blue version and running gush and daze is probably the way to go. I just slapped together a monoblack zombie-ish deck I had the pieces for, I think I need Lord of the Undead for it.

>>98546064
I killed a Meddling Mage with essence flare when I was playing Stasis lol. B2B seems quite narrow unless you're expecting alot of tinker

>>98546024
It should be 120 so WotC can balance around the same health total in all formats.

>>98537174
maindeck 4x Fanatics is massive overrated

+1 Goblin King
- 1 Mogg Fanatic

thank me later

>premodern
>a monkless format

Think I'll pass.

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>>98546202

>>98546210
Having to memorize lenghty list of arbitrary creature type changes because you can't trust what's printed on the card must be a bitch.

>>98546024
is aggro even a thing in commander?

>>98546246
yeah, but it doesn't really work except 1v1, because you can only reliably take out 1 person

>>98546081
Mono Blue the best version, I think. Other colors offer useful cards but having a good mana and Gush is the best way forward. The last time I played Zombies I played 3 Lord of the Undead. It was quite good with Gempalm, the extra reach was nice.

>>98546106
B2B is against Landstill in particular but there is overlap elsewhere. Any slow. multicolor deck can be shutdown. It also taxes their Disenchants. Those types of decks can be particularly tricky for Stiflenought so B2B is required. It plus Brain Freeze are very important in the control matchups.

>>98545939
>That's a valid opinion, so state your favorite packs to crack for draft then
Homelands

>>98546210
I mean it's certainly a good format for clerics. Beyond him and the ideqlist not many playable monks

>>98546339
joven's ferrets is a low-power banger

>>98531918
Can I make a decent thematic deck around crusaders, knights and racism?

>>98546465
no

>>98546467
But the game is like, 30+ years old. Have they really only made gay ass cards since then?

>>98541552
RW would be amazing but like you said the mana is awful. STP + Disenchant solves the problems against a lot of fair and unfair decks that Goblins often struggles against. Shared Triumph is bad though.

I agree the deck does have free wins. Most of the top decks aren't on 4 mana spells and those that are run interactive cards like Plow to transition to the mid/late game or play a lot of ramp like Enchantress. Goblins position in Premodern feels like it was in 2005 era Legacy: relatively high power level that lets mediocre players beat up on other decks. However, there is tension between Waste/Port and casting 3/4/5 mana creatures. Sure sequencing against combo is simple since you are mostly just goldfishing but against anything interactive it's more complex.

Why don't you like the deck and/or don't want to be paired against it?

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>>98546230
The creature type monk is absolutely meaningless in Premodern. There is only a handful of creatures where the errataed creature type matters.

>>98540667
It's weird how I thought Theros was such a lame setting at the time of this set but now I look back on it so fondly

>>98546634
Didn't Onslaught block have monk tribal as one of its sub-themes? Or was that still Clerics back then?

>>98546661
It was all clerics.

Play

Pre

Modern

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>>98546634
True, behold the best monk in all of Premodern.

>>98546695

the dauthi/shadow era was so good. what has come close to that since? the soul was still there, the creativity was still there, the power creep wasn't so bad.

>>98546781
It's kinda funny because that Type 2 era had Price of Progress, Jackal Pup, Fireblast, Carnophage, Sarcomancy, Hatred, Survival, Tomb, City of Traitors, etc, etc, etc. Soulful, yeah, but Tempest/Saga was the most insane level of powercreep in the games history aside from ABU. Even the durdly control decks had Capsize lock, Forbid lock. It introduced retarded SB hosers like Chill and Choke. I loved that era but even the core sets (5th Edition) had retarded shit like Necro and Mana Vault. Categorically, there hasn't been an era more defined by power creep.