Storied Edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-august-10-2026>NewsThe Pro Tour and Magic Spotlight Series in 2026:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-pro-tour-and-magic-spotlight-series-in-2026Metagame Mentor: The Final Four Standard Regional Championships of Early 2026:https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-final-four-standard-regional-championships-of-early-2026>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>98489326>TQFavorite 2 mana creature?
>tqFirst for LP again!
PLAY PREMODERN!
Play Pioneer. Kili slots great into Boros equipment. Not hammer nonsense.
How the fuck do I stop getting curbstopmed in draft? I've played magic on and off for 20 years and have drafted hundreds of times, and I'm still some gold scrub. I'm watching videos, listening to fucking podcasts, masturbating to 17lands, and fucking nothing.
>after getting banned in Standard, Cub goes after another format
>>98509616that's too much text for 2 mana
>>98509886this is a good thing by the wayanything that reduces how much energy there is in the format is a good thing god I fucking hate energy
>TQResolving pic related is an instant dopamine hit.
>>98509609this was my "promo" from a pre-release I did last Friday. such low effort bullshit they can't even put a planeswalker stamp on it. also got one in my collector booster today which leads me to..._____did anyone get a collector @ MSRP today ($44.99)? my local target held off on stocking the new card area because they knew I wanted this and this was the pull. I'm a happy camper
>>98510029might help to post the photo
I thought OP card was KILL THE RESOURCEFUL. Haha.>>98509609>TQ>Favorite 2 mana creature?Grizzly Bears.
>>98509609>TQI just love baby PW and wish they were in every format
>TQKind of cheating, but I’ve always loved the Guildmage Cycles. The original hybrid ones were the best thematically, the RTR guildhall ones had the best mana dump abilities, and the guilds/allegiance ones had amusing names (Senate, League, House, Swarm, Clan, Syndicate, Conclave, Cult, Combine, Legion) to make up for their abilities requiring them to tap, which is dogshit bad design
>>98510233I mean, for example, most of the RTR ones can win you the game with infinite mana:>Duskmantle GuildmageUse the first ability several times to make every milled card make them lose like 5 life, then the second ability to mill them out>Korozda GuildmageCan make a creature infinitely big, then sacrifice them into infinite tokens, and then make those tokens bigger.>New Prahv GuildmageCan't actually win you the game with infinite mana in a turn cycle, but can make the rest of your deck win faster/easier.>Nivix GuildmageDraws you into an instant or sorcery that could win you game if you copied endlessly, then copies it endlessly.>Rix Maadi Guildmageshrinks blockers into nothing, and then as soon as their first life loss happens they dump their mana and make the opponent lose the game.>Skarrg GuildmageMakes all your lands into 4/4s, then gives them trample. You need a critical mass of lands for this to work, so technically not infinite.>Sunhome GuildmageMakes 1/1 tokens with haste, then buffs your board's power.>Vitu-Ghazi GuildmageMakes a 3/3 centaur token and then populates to make an infinite army>Vizkopa GuildmageAdds stacking opponent life loss to your life gain while also giving things lifelink.>Zameck GuildmageThe third one that doesn't win with infinite mana, though it does make creature spells infinitely bigger and lets you shave off counters for card draw to draw your win.
Come back to Premodern, /tg/.Come back home...
You know, for as notable as it was during its relevance, has Thragtusk gotten any reprints, references, or spiritual successors/sidegrades?
>>98510303>mana sinkers can win the game if you have infinite manaWow, we have a genius here :0
>>98510459yes. yes. yes.
>>98510422This card does not meet Magic community standards. It perpetuates racism, contains harmful stereotypes, and depicts a sensitive real‑world event. So kindly delete your post. Thank you.
>>98510563What the fuck?
I'm just popping in to laugh at people who play MTG again.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.That is all.
>>98509609>tq
When's the Top Gun UB set?>>98510067I think that the planewalker is white-black but that is really badly communicated on the card...
WWE UB will sell billions
>>98510649>glass smashing Sonnuvabitch! I'm so tired of these needle dick faggots in Renton trying to sell me on black Aragorn again!>WHAT?!I said I'm so tired of these needle dick faggots in Renton trying to sell me on black Aragorn again! >WHAT?!I'm gonna go down to Cartamundi!>WHAT?!I'm gonna drink a beer!>WHAT?!>I'm gonna drink two beers!>WHAT?!I'm gonna fuck with the printers!>WHAT?!Then I'm gonna print "Stone Cold's Stunner">WHAT?!A Legendary Sorcery!>WHAT?!It can be your commander!>WHAT?!And then I'm gonna cast that sumbitch a hundred times because Stone Cold said so!
>>98506504It keeps happening ;_;
>>98509898>when you aura go get a smaller aura from your deckbadabing badaboom
>>98502037>>98506462Would Pioneer Horizon be Modern-legal?
I'll have one of these please
Why is this thread so dead? Is Magic finally dying?
>>98510991I'd assume so, although the vast majority of cards would be made with commander in mind and it would definitely come with a set of commander precons>>98511087>Why is this thread so dead?the hobbit sucks ass, more than the usual UB set, there is nothing to talk about
SEXOOOO SEXOOO SEXOOO WITH WITCH SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>98509609>TQWe love Kev Walker here.
>>98510580
>>98511087UB killed us, specially bad UBs like this Hobbit garbage.
>>98511059What's the price tag?
>>98511087What's there to talk about? Everyone's waiting for Reality Fracture.
>>98511087No. Magic is growing and better than ever. The problem is what you think of Magic is now EDH. Everything else is called 60-card formats. You want to talk about Magic (EDH)? Go to edhg.
>>98511384So... a casual for fun invention where every table group makes their "rules for fun" and has little in common with the actual competitive card game replaced the real product made by Richard Garfield? Sounds dire as fuck...
>>98511399It is what it is. You could call it a corporate takeover. Commander prints more money, therefore everything revolves around commander. From card design to the release schedule.
>>98511087There's nothing to discuss in this shithole game. It's the same shit on repeat every day.>Grrr I hate UB>Grrr the setting for this in-universe set is trash>Grrr I hate that this pushed set has cards seeing constructed play>Grrr I hate that this pointless set has no cards seeing constructed play>Grrr I hate that this set has winning draft archetypes4/5 of these are nearly as old as the game itself and it's honestly just tiresome hearing this shit over and over.
>>98510422Back to Brazil with ye.
Is it a smarter idea to get Boseiju, Who Enduresfor $45 dollars or spend that money on a $40 Hobbit Collector booster? I know I probably won't get One Ring or Smaug so I'd rather spend my money on getting a card I know will be added to my deck that's useful.
>>98511597Get the boseiju, collector boosters are a good purchase
>>98511597>>98511604never a good purchase*
>>98511604>>98511608Ok. I was on the same thought. Tired of buying packs to never use the cards.
>>98511597if you can wait 10 months, boseiju is very likely to get reprinted somewhere in the kamigawa titanbreach set in 2027
>>98511592Why?
>>98511625I wonder if they'll become box toppers and not move the price much.
>>98511627To play premodern with your kind.
>>98511651I'm Danish, Premodern is pretty popular here.
>>98511657Ah yes the Dinamarqueses Brasileiros I read all about your immigration after Denmark lost territories to Prussia.
>>98511673Why are you like this? Did Brazilian steal your boyfriend or something?
This guy is cool he needs some lore
>>98511769Looks like a From Software boss. Has a name like one too.
>>98511687yes, they took my game
I like my FF cards but I would be 100% ok giving them up if it meant there could be sanctioned events with no UB cards. Reprints with UB art is ok though.
>>98510029they're not putting planeswalker stamps, pre-release dates or year of printing anymore because they plan these shit sets years ahead>pic relatedcan barely read the damn card. although it's better than the gay ass dragon in the regular art
>>98511087been dead to me. this year I probably went to my LGS to play magic four times total.I don't care about any of the UB sets, missed the strixhaven prerelease and will probably order some singles when reality fracture drops.
>>98510422>be me, 2023>get some cards to play simic madness in pauper>be me, 2026>realize I pretty much have 90% of the deck ready to play in premodern>nobody to play with because the other decks are expensive as fucklol. better stick to pauper
>>98511812Then move out of Brazil.
I just like to collect MTG cards and put them in a binder. What do you think of me? Oh, and I do this by buying booster packs.
>>98512047>I just like to collect MTG cards and put them in a binder.Nothing wrong with that.>Oh, and I do this by buying booster packs.Are you addicted to gambling, or do you hate money?
>>98512094Addicted to opening packs
>>98512101>Addicted to opening packsYes, gambling, that's what I said. There have been digital simulators for pack opening since Microprose's Shandalar in the 90s. Cube drafting can also replicate that feel. Or are you a consumerist whore who tosses the commons onto LGS tables and enjoys seeing the poors scramble for them?
>>985121161 copy of commons goes to binder, other copies get the scissor treatment
>>98512181>the scissor treatment
>>98512116>Or are you a consumerist whore who tosses the commons onto LGS tables and enjoys seeing the poors scramble for them?as if there's any common worth doing that
>>98512197He must be a rabbi, circumsizing card corners to match Alpha, as Garfield intended.>>98512263The poors don't know this. All they know is that draft chaff at the LGS tables is free.
>>98512047>>98512181certain people belong in prison
>>98511399I blame Stranger Things. WotC saw that D&D was going from niche hobby to part of the mainstream culture and wanted to get in on that with Magic.I think UB and exclusively focusing on EDH definitely got them that same audience, but i just never got why they turned their back on sanctioned events.
>>98512512because organizing sanctioned events costs them some amount of moneychurning out cummander slop doesn't, beyond the fixed expense of designing and printing the cards. and cummander slop can be sold for much higher prices to distributors since everyone knows cummander hogs will vastly overpay for a special piece of cardboardso not only does wotc cut costs, they also pump their revenues
Gavin revealed this was slush art from Unglued 2.Probably a joke on Goblin Matron.
>>98512527But most of those cum guzzling retards are too poor to actually afford the slop. Like, yeah>The most popular format is kitchen tablebut at the same time, those people just write on the back of cards with a sharpie if something is too expensive. When I was broke, I at least had the decency to get my fakes from the Chinaman. I just want the gathering to come back already.
>>98512546>good art in a modern set>it's actually a reused asset from the 90stracks
>>98510725Arena is shit.>>98511087Not like the companny tried to not kill magic>>98511649Even if they don't reprint it in an affordable way they will soon reprint it as a chase card in another set.
What was the exact moment where you knew this game wasn’t for you anymore
>>98512603bear scape
>>98512512>Why did they drop sanctioned events?Because:>Sanctioned events cost them money>It's easier to design cards for EDH (so fewer mythics/rares are being aimed at this demographic, which means it now represents your product less)>It costs them money>Sanctioned events represent a small portion of the playerbase, which is even smaller post-EDH and Arena>It costs them money>The marketing appeal of these events to anyone not competing in them in small and has gotten drastically smaller>It costs them money
>>98512655
>>98512603planeswalkers as a card type
>>98512550>But mostcummander slop is now built on the mobile game model:most players will spend little to nothing, but a small number will spend limitless amounts no matter what you're actually sellingthere were always whales in magic, but the proportion of whales is much higher among the cummander hogs
>>98512603I think I checked out around battle for zendikar. That shit was so lame it killed most of my excitement for most releases that followed it. I have only been playing on and off since then. I've been playing again as of late because Lorwyn Eclipsed got my interest and my friends desperately wanted a 4th for commander, so I just fondly stare at the alara block cards in my hand while I lose to some gay ass legendary from Final Fantasy. I'm outta there as soon as the inevitable commander arms race starts though.
>>98512662If you hadn't started defacing threads we'd still tolerate your unfunny redditor shit anon. Afraid this one's all on you.
>>98512603When Commander sets stopped being released yearly, to being attached to every Standard set .
>>98512603walking dead
>>98512603Hasn't happened yet for me! I only got into magic this year, and I'm loving it.
>>98512603For me this was Day D.Never thought they would have the balls to print garbage like pic related. Even after sets like MKM or OTJ this was another new and painful low.
>>985126036 products a year, is not about the quality but the quantity i'm not bezos and i don't have the money to keep with the rhythm wotc ask from me, specially on competitive levels also i liked pioneer more than standard and they killed it in favor of a format always changing.
>>98512047I do the same thing
60 card format players are the most miserable fucks and I'm glad Commander has ruined the game for you. Every UB, every power creep, every bomb that destroys limited brings me immeasurable amounts of happiness. I love reading posts about you quitting and all the other fucks who agree with you about the state of Magic. I love that this game is ruined for you and I will continue to drink all of your tears. All of your hate for Commander players makes me that much more powerful. I genuinely hope the game continues to stamp out the passion you had left leaving Commander the only format left standing. Fuck you all.
>>98512603After Amonkhet I gave up on following the story, I had been really hoping they'd follow through on the "gatewatch loses" promise and have some serious consequences (a few members die at least). I still showed up for sets I liked the vibe of, though, I just didn't bother to read whatever plot blogs they put out.When they decided to make UB standard legal I stopped buying new sets beyond playing in limited formats ie prereleases. I don't want to sit across from a guy playing Spiderman Tribal.With the removal of ancient creature types to make their species more UB compatible (and the attempt to discard "tribal" as a term entirely), a particularly spiteful change that feels uniquely targeted at my interests, I barely follow the game anymore. I don't remember the last time I even played casually. I mostly just show up to these threads to shitpost and hang out but everyone seems so miserable these days even that is losing its luster.
>>98512603there were a lot of signs for years beforehand (companions/oko, UB existing at all, the death of blocks, etc.) but I think the moment where I realized I just couldn't plug my ears and go "this is fine" anymore was the spongebob meme secret lair
>>98513080>Fuck you allwell fuck you too buddy, and i hope your mother die from cancer
>>98513080You sound spiteful and very resentful for someone "happy" lmao, you were just bad at constructed and cummander helped you with your loser mindset?
>>98513409The sooner you and the rest of you rope the sooner we stop hearing constant bitching about too many standard sets and too many legendaries and no support for the fuckton of 60 card formats. There is literally no making you buttgoblins happy and I can't wait for you all to disappear.
I want to get a couple of 60 card decks to loan out to friends and play with them since I think they would play more 60 card if they actually played it, they only play commander. I was thinking of starting with a mono black moonshadow deck and an izzet delver deck, would these be well matched? Both are aggro but have some fun complexity I think to playing them
>>98513080>I'm glad your game is ruined>Fuck you allAnd you call us miserable fucks. Sounds like some serious projection. >because they're shallow egotistsThe vocaroo is only proven more right every day.
>>98512603When they printed this garbage and then said "we didn't think people would target their own creatures xD"
>>98512603I couldn't pinpoint an exact moment but it was probably seeing the 'people' that began to show up at my LGS.The 'we can never go back' moment when it came to the designers demonstrating they didn't understand how to design for the game was when they printed cycling for 1 generic mana in Ikoria.The 'holy fuck JotC are kikes' moment was the one secret lair they put out where they bragged about how $20 from every purchase will go to [some charity] but they also raised the MSRP by 20 bucks.
>>98513649assuming you're talking about legacy here, delver is not a good deck to pick up and play if you don't play 60 card formats oftenI'd recommend turbo depths vs any aggressive deck with wasteland, in this case mono black moonshadow
>>98514056I am yeah. Delver is not that hard, all you need to know is to not brainstorm lock yourself, and then shove everything in your graveyard and cast a murktide reagent.
>>98513861The actual words were "playtesters didn't target their opponents creatures during playtesting." The reason for this is because originally Oko could only target your own stuff so late in testing they decided to buff Oko but due to it being so late playtester never targeted their opponents' cards.
>>98514300>Delver is not that hardI know it isn't, but it is a deck whose power comes from making a critical mass of correct decisions that aren't always going to be intuitive, specially if someone isn't familiar with 60 card magic, it's a good deck to learn the format with if you're going to stick with it for a long time and experience a lot of trial and error, I'm not saying a random person is incapable of playing the deck, I'm saying there are more intuitive decks to initiate someone into legacy in a pick up and play situation
>>98512871Okay homo. You're still the one thinking about penis all day.
>>98511087WotC has gone the globalization route and opted to made half of their sets UB to appeal to tourists/migrants and half Magic fan service. They rake in way more money than they used to by making cards for fandoms that are significantly larger and more wealthy than the average Magic player, and they try to keep Magic players invested by printing cards (more often that not made with commander in mind) that have mechanics or lore that Magic players "have always wanted." Anyone that cares about the playability of the game itself have been left to dry; you either engage by occasionally doing limited events, dump a ton of money into a disgusting amalgam for non-limited decks, or you cut yourself off completely by playing/proxying for "budget" formats (pauper, cube, premodern, etc.).
>>98514522>redditor who camps threads to post gay porn every day is now writing gay fanfiction about the anons who notice him posting gay porn
>>98512603when the dungeons and degenerates set came out giving a free incomprehensible card advantage mechanic (tAkE tHe IniTiAtIvE) and introduced the parasitic slop reddit gold mechanic """"treasures""""""" which singlehandedly fucked the colour pie ramp balance so each colour can just eternally ramp with no drawbacks.Mono red used to be a fun challenge to make work now it is splashed for onions cancer mana generation that shows no sign of slowing downI am a edh/cedh/draft player for context and I can see the degeneration of 60 cards/other formats easily you shouldnt have to fill your deck with pushed legendary cards what happened to playsets of fun shit that got job done
How has this guy not trooned out and cut his dick off yet?I dont even know his name I just see recommended videos with him in the thumbnail all the time with his painted nails. Any time I've tried to watch one it's vapid and annoying and I shut it off in 30 seconds
>>98511785Thats what i was thinking. Theres basically zero magic planes that wouldn't make a cool fromsoft game setting and ixalan would be neat.
>>98513021Yeah...i kept playing but spiderman release felt like when the second plane hit the tower. The first being when the stress for 2025 were announced
>>98514780gay little commander echo chamber. he is annoying, grating and wanting the clout of being a faggot without actually giving in all of his friends on the channel are more entertainig but they collectively have the stupidest fucking names known to mankind
>>98514801He must be some kind of industry plant for wizards because I think he has direct collaboration with them but there's no way he is responsible for any of the growth of whatever channels he has
>>98513464>impleyin' cummanturd ain't also fucking ruined with direct to format cardst:predh player
>>98515134No direct-to-format card can shit the format up worse than Rhystic Study has for over a decade.
>>98515145thankfully they finally banned it along with other problem cards. the best part is that I can still sell my pulls at full price.
PlayPremodern
>>98510643Can't wait for UB: Bundeswehr>>98515184No thanks.
>>98512603In a way it's funny, I started playing again a few months ago and I'm having an absolute blastGranted, I don't have a playgroup anymore so I only stick to Arena, but I've wasted a lot of time just looking up cards or reading up about old sets and designs. None of the modern UB sets really interest me at all, but SOS and Lorwyn where really fun and somewhat flavorful so I enjoyed them quite a bit (especially all the Mystical Archive reprints)But fuck me this game is so much fun
I simply don't think it's fun to have to consider the opponent has Jeskai Rev and All as One and Flashback and Thor and need to basically play black so I can make them discard, exile, and sarch their library for multiple wincons. How the fuck did we get here? When is the earliest that things can be changed so this shit isn't a constant thorn every rotation?
>>98512603Original LotR UB, but I already had the feeling when they started doing commander products every set release since Ikoria
>>98515184
>>98509886I fought this yesterday during weekly modern. Basically it pops off turn 2 if they have Leyline opener. Really fucked up deck, but gets extremely slowed down if you deal with the cub or halfling
>>98514908>>98514801>>98514780Least obvious samefag
>Bans FINALLY come for Standard.>Green effectively deleted from the format entirely.>The new format is just infinite Izzet vs Izzet mirror matches.... again...>Every attempt to fix a format only unearths the next layer of absolute fucking dogshit the previous broken vomit had buried.AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>98515602Are there actually still people who play standard in paper?
>>98515642No, but that is a consequence of there being no people who still play Standard at all.
I'm the dumbass who booked an hotel to play at FNM Modern next week, turns out there was a typo on the planning and there is both a Commander and Modern tournaments on the same evening, what are the chances there is like 3 Modern players that night? They seem really high...
>>98515790Bring a commander deck lmao
>>98515790Who the hell plays Commander tournaments? Even to Commander players that sounds absolutely miserable.
>>98515799If it comes to that I guess I'll try and borrow one. >>98515801It's "Duel Commander", which is a thing for some reason.
>>98515810>Duel CommanderSounds kinda fun to be desudesuneThe main thing that turned me off commander in the first place was the fact that it's a 4 player mode where you're supposed to win but not actually win otherwise everyone else gets pissyI'm now kinda curious to see what a 1v1 format looks like since there's no brackets nonsense
>>98515994Canadian Highlander, Duel Commander, Centurion, modo 1v1 commander, Brawl (playable on Arena). take your pick
>>98516015>Duel Commander has 250 banned cards>Brawl has 30
>>98516040Duel commander has all the magic cards. Brawl only the cards on Arena.
>>98515810>>98515994>>98516015I got into DC a little bit when they put it on MTGO, the format is great, the banlist puts some people off because it's very extensive but that's exactly what's needed in order to curate a card pool that big, every major archetype is playable and there is room for niche decks/hidden gems.>>98516040Brawl has around 50% of the cards DC has, and it's missing a LOT of older cards.
Duel Commander? I prefer Aeonshiftlol no
>Duel CommandersSome guy tries to push me into tiny leaders. At first I thought it was a joke, but he's serious.
Pauper Commander when?
>>98516095I would try it if it was on arena or MTGO, the only format I truly don't give a fuck is cEDH, multiplayer and competitive should not mix
POWER ARMORSo much better than the generic neo kamigawa mechs.
>>98516149Soul. I will build a monored control deck in Premodern with Urza's Rage.
>>98516163Based
>>98516149Ironic since I consider Power Armor generic with Neo Kamigawa mechs having a unique origami motif.
>>98516377Yeah I suppose the origami style is a bit different, but at a quick glance they look like generic anime ones (and I'm someone who enjoys mecha anime). The Urza ones don't look like anything else I've seen, although I'm not an expert on other Western mecha stuff. So I dunno maybe you're right, but either way I prefer the power armor aesthetically.
>>98509609It costs 2, technically.
>>98516377Despite how much the Japanese autofellate their own culture in all their media they wouldn't do something as completely stupid as base mecha off paper folding; it's as retarded as building mecha off kitchen utensils or sushi. Origami mecha isn't a genius move it's a shit idea you can look on Artstation for an infinite supply of interesting or awesome mecha unhindered by the trash art direction forced by Wizards. It just demonstrates a total lack of creative effort from Wizards who has an incredibly tone-deaf habit of performing cultural appropriation with no care about how insulting it is. Samurai mecha make sense and exists because guess what it's a fucking warrior of course you can base a warmachine off it.Look at Thunder Junction. Do you think any cowboy would think those not-guns or putting a saddle on every animal but a horse is cool? Wizards pays for cultural experts to comment on every black-related thing they do but it seems like they don't ask any Japanese mecha expert to tell them how fucking shit the Kamigawa mechs look compared to just about every single mecha product in the world not just Japan. Do you think any Wizards people asked any wild west enthusiasts how fucking shit Thunder Junction looked.
Is Premodern the only way to enjoy this game anymore? Really we needed a fanmade format for play real Magic?
>>98516445
so here I am trying to figure out some decent decks using just 6th edition cards along with these additionals:Death Pits of RathBad MoonManta RidersSwords to PlowsharesNevinyrral's DiskWinter OrbThawing Glaciersand maybe also:Ardent AngelVelukan DragonPic partially related, and the deck sizes can range from 40 to 80.
who at wizards thought it would be a good idea for there to only be one magic set in the second half of the year
>>98516468This is the result of worlds with different hats or whatever that term is.
>>98516633shiee maybe I should fire this game up with the mods. it good?
>>98516468>it's as retarded as building mecha off kitchen utensils or sushi.Nobody show this guy yugioh
>>98515602They fucked up massively by not deleting tablet. And even if they did, Izzet elementals would still remain a highly competitive deck until rotation, which we wouldn't actually exist if rotation was kept to 2 years rather than 3. 3 year rotation is killing standard because everything has been izzet.
>>98517008You respect yugioh?
>>98516991well, there's a working fan-translation that recently got updated, but it's still a work in progress... the spoken dialogue doesn't match the subtitles, the tutorial videos have subs, but once you get used to it, it plays pretty alright.Me, I'm waiting for a pre-patched CDI format image so I can play it on my actual Dreamcast.
>>98516468>they wouldn't do something as completely stupid as base mecha off paper folding; it's as retarded as building mecha off kitchen utensils or sushi
>>98512603When commander got its own cards
>>98517138cool, all I heard is that one should turn off battle animations and setup a working fast forward button because the game is so slow
>>98517464'ere's someone beating the final boss (mind the really skuffed as all hells audio)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkTcI7LGtAs
>>98516398Probably based somewhat on mech warrior.
>>98511059Someone I know pulled one on a live stream.
>>98516468Holy weeb cope
why have collector boosters become obscenely expensive and hard to find in the last couple years? they used to be ~$150-$200 and i could get them on amazon easily
>>98518209'Investors' like the guy at my LGS who plays with Temu fakes and bought 2 boxes of Hobbit collector boosters to just sit on.
>>98518209Reddit is blaming Cr1tikal for some reason even tho no one watches him anymore anyways.
>>98518455I honestly like how Logan Paul tried to do this with YGO and proved beyond a doubt that shortage is 100% caused by WotC when Konami did one extra print run and cratered the value of every card being scalped within weeks.
>>98515602Something something powerful white cards
>>98512603When Gavin promised powerful white cards for 8 years and never made them for Standard like he lied about. And then there were the years of nonwhite standard bans but still nobody else asked where the powerful white cards were, since they were too busy gorging on commander crap or winning shekels with nonwhite cards.
>>98518721I'm starting to really really hate your schizo ways
>>98515602Green players genuinely can't handle one little ban and just give up.
>>98518721He never did though.
>>98509696Played my monthly today. Was on a BR burning wish midrange pile. Went 2-1 . Lost to GW terrageddon cause I could draw lands after mulling to 5. Got a buy and beat angry survival after being able to play perish a couple of times
>>98518795Funny how none of those decks had banned white cards or won pro tours I’m getting tired of your kike gaslighting
>>98518809>he never did thoughLying kike says what?
>>98519130I bet you haven't even watched the video.
>>98519094Post list? I like wishes as non-storm cards but I've only really seen domain control run it.
>>98509609>TQThis dude.
/tg/, I got a question about roles.What happens if I have a creature with a Wicked role and an effect I control puts a new Wicked role on it?Does the first role go to the graveyard and each opponent loses 1 life, or does nothing happen because it's already a Wicked role role and doesn't get replaced with itself?
>>98519303>Does the first role go to the graveyard and each opponent loses 1 lifethis
>>98519303no rule about roles being unreplaceable with the same rolethe role is a thing and it can be attached to a creature
>>98519352>>98519364Thanks, anons.
>including unseen footsteps in a brand-new foil treatmentAnyone know if they've actually said what the new foil treatment is?
>>98519303you can only have 1 role token attached to a single creature, so if you would attach a 2nd you have to sacrifice one of themsince both are wicked roles, yeah the wicked role death trigger triggers and pings the other guyit probably won't matter at all, but the limit is 1 role token per player per creature. so if your opponent attached a role token to your creature and you go to put a wicked role on it, it will stick even if the other one is also a wicked role
>>98519761>CP
Just watched a yugioh video and it was mentioned that a blue eyes white dragon reprint card that cheats itself out for free turn 1 is a bad game. What a funny game.Can we unban Grief yet?
>>98520263How are those two things related?
>>98516468Based post desu
>>98517039...alright, fair cop.
>>98516468
>>98516770People begged for less and they got their wish.
After spending years playing Green I finally opened my eyes and realized that Red is the best color.Red lets you play more Magic per Magic game. Yes, I want all my creatures to have haste and deal damage to your creatures immediately. No, I'm not going to sit here and wait until you have your faggy infinite combo ready or you put 1416451 +1/+1 counters and trample on your creatures.And if my strategy doesn't work? It doesn't matter. If I lose it will be quickly and that means I have extra time to get a snack, go to the bathroom and fuck other player's sisters before the next match is over. Meanwhile the other players at the table are all calling the judge because the stack is too stacked. Like a bunch of nerds.I love being a Red Wizard so much.
>>98520614Funky card desu
PlayPreModern
>>98520810
Could anyone please help me grade these? My LGS is auctioning them, starting bid $30 USD equivalent, and they're described as MP-HP. I have alot of store credit that I don't have much use for.
>>98521042>Hey 4chan grade some cards for me
>>98521042The edges are badly damaged and at least three of them are warped quiet a bit. Do you want them black border or what? White border copies are like $1.25. They arent worth “investing in” so im not sure what you are asking.
>>98519209Gimme some time. I’ll post premodern list way later tonight after modern monday. There’s some dank hate cards in premodern so I use those as big silver bullet hits. I want to build a grixis list with it cause grabbing a lobotomy on demand seems nasty
>>98521042If I wanted them I'd max bid at $50.
>>98521042>curled, notched, can't see the back of the cards>urza lands aren't expensive and have multiple printingsThis shit isn't even worth the starting bid. I love older cards but this is a straight up scam.
Post lands where you'd like to liveinb4 city of Ass
>>98522208This island art is pretty peaceful and also achievable irl.
>>98509609>TQMy main nigga right here
>>98516163This archetype already exists. It's called Big Red.
>>98522208
>>98522208on the building itself would be so comfy and serra would smother me with her thighs
>>98520545>Magic needs to go back to 3 sets a year with an overarching story>WotC does exactly that>NONONO NOT LIKE THAT I DON'T WANT STRIXHAVEN BLOCK
>>98522208NYC for me
but probably more New Capenna honestly
>>98522306>>98522308I don't think that part of it is still around. At least a sizable portion of Park Heights was collapsed.
>>98522356It's okay the universe of MtG exists in perpetual status quo so they rebuilt it all instantly just like how Ravnica rebuilt instantly from 2 invasions in a row and still had resources left over to colonize Thunder Junction.
>>98522378To be fair Ravnican guilds have a near unlimited supply of resources, conviction and useful retards to throw at any problem You could probably open a portal that spews endless Dreadhordes of Phyrexian'd Eldrazi 24/7 right in the middle of the city, and the Rakdos would still be too busy chopping each other's balls for fun while the Simic watch
Unpopular opinion: invent the new creature type "behemoth" and make that the iconic creature type of green. They are large beasts, like Craterhoof Behemoth or such that look like humongous muscled gorillas or warthogs.If you still want to add reptiles to green just use more dinosaurs.
>>98521042all 4 are damaged/heavily played
>>98522600Okay but would there be any purpose to this? Like would green start seeing Behemoth tribal support?
>>98522254This is like 90% of Kai Budde's 99 world champion deck. They should unban monolith so I can just play the whole deck.
>>98522600Green already has an iconic creature type and it is Ooze.
>>98522618There is no Sphinx tribal support either and I don't think angels commonly buff other angels, at least not before I stopped following Magic releases.
>>98522681There's angel decks in multiple formats
>>98522681Then I don't really know why its introduction would be important. It's like how SOS added the "Book" artifact type but 0 cards check it so I'm not really sure what the point is beyond flavor, at which point you start getting to really arbitrary territory.
>>98522600hydras fit green's iconic creature type perfectly>reward you for making xbox hueg amounts of mana>are absolutely enormous beaters
>>98522600I'd rather just use Beast or Elemental again but I'm not against it.>>98522618Flavor, which trumps all other considerations.>>98522754You forgot>are always worse than just playing an Eldrazi for the same CMCHydras are a failure of design and an abysmal rep for the green battlecruiser slot.
You forgot you like to suck cocks
>>98522814>are always worse than just playing an Eldrazi for the same CMCthat's pretty much true for dragons and demons and angels and sphinxes tho tooiconic creature type doesn't mean its always op, it means it does what the color wants to do thematically
>>98522878Is there a tribe that receive more copium than dragons?>Fundamentally shit because they're top-end fliers in a color that has weak top-end and no other fliers in its color pie>Receive new cards every other set>People constantly say they'll be good in Standard>They are, in fact, never good in Standard>Got a whole set dedicated to them and the archetype didn't even break 1% presence, being overshadowed by a card in the same set IN THE SAME COLOR
Do buyfags really?
I'm the dumbass who booked an hotel room for FNM,the tourney got cancelled (no explanation) lol
>>98522933Sucks.
>>98522878>that's pretty much true for dragons and demons and angels and sphinxes tho tooTrue! However, dragons and demons and angels and sphinxes can generally be cast for a lower cost than an Eldrazi, while producing appreciably more effect than a Hydra at the same CMC. Green's best fatties never rival Eldrazi (which I think is bad design but that's just opinion) but the best of them are almost never hydras. See Primeval Titan, for example.
>>98522903Dragons being the worst iconic creatures is kinda balanced by the fact that gobbos have always been the best characteristic tribe for its colourActually nvm elves exist
this is the least hype I've seen from 3 consecutive set reveals
>>98509609I said it once and I'll say it again. Why does Kili not have flying? There is already a president.
>>98523474the star trek set will surely bring the hype! No, we wont go back to making non pop culture slop sets!
>>98517487There a reason he's only untapping one land?
>>98523527Because he's strong enough as it is without dunking on non-flying fags too.
>>98523474it makes sense, it seems like it wasn't supposed to be an actual standard set, it was developed as a small set for commander and they had to adapt it for limited at last minute's notice, very similar situation to the first spiderman set
>>98523474Doesn't help that there's basically no cards worth playing and a bunch of disjointed and unsupported mechanics. Creatures that care about equipment but no good equipment, creatures that care about treasure but no way to make treasures, extremely lopsided limited environment.
>>98510422I went 2-2 last week in the biweekly Premodern tournament, but I have a few idea on improving my attempt to go 4-0 next week.
>>98510422I am actively trying to create a Premodern community in my area with my own bare hands
the charges, officer?
>>98522208COFFEE WITH WITCH COFEEEEEEEE
>>98524161Forgery and Fraud.
>>98524389What's the charge? Printing a foil? A succulent Chinese foil card?
>Magic was a better game before UB
>>98524389
>>98522208I'm going to Susur Secundi
>>98524816>buildings are basedsnakes
>>98514701>when the dungeons and degenerates set>introduced the parasitic slop reddit gold mechanic """"treasures"""""""we all hate wizards but one small problem
>>98524897>card name and effect implies booty>booty is cropped from art
What do the people who are new to Magic think about all the negativity among the playerbase? If you have played for a long time it's just background noise. But for someone new it must be unfathomable. Every new card is slop garbage, WotC are kike bastards, this design is trash, the game itself is dead and so on.
>>98524397kek
>>98514701Yeah I can't think of any red cards that were game-warpingly strong because of their mana acceleration prior to treasures being made. Certainly nothing that was considered a large part of its color pie despite the fact it was total bullshit that warranted the entire color's top-end being crippled for years on account of its ability to just ignore every mana cost above 2.
>>98524897I meannnnnn
>>98524932Deserved and every new player should know how shit the game is now.
>>98524932Every statement on here is correct.
>>98525016Wouldn't this be a pimpin commander choice?
>>98524873you really are a motherfucker actually
PreModern
>>98524488seems like it was. is this based crime statistic nooticer post supposed to convince me otherwise?
>>98524488Yes, just like you were a better person before your gender reassignment surgery.
>>98525016Theros was peak
>>98525492malakas
ngl I'm excited for nauctis and titanbreach, looks like I haven't learned my lesson yet
>>98525568>titanbreachI can understand nauctis but pacific rim ripoff? for real?
>>98525587yeah, this is the set that supposed to bring battles back and I liked the artifact/enchantment theme of NEO
>>98511059Four mana for a 4/3 vanilla monster? Sure.
>>98525596>bring battles backyou might be the only one in the world excited for that
>>98516149Obviously the lovely Chaffee artwork with the exposed hydraulics and rivets and servos has timeless charm, not least because of the acrylic medium. But if we're just talking silhouette then I think there's a resemblance between the Invasion armor and NEO's Reckoner mechs.
>>98514600>pissmodern>BudgetJejoug>Inb4 muh proxies>>98511966I've never seen more than 4 people playing premodern, and every time they try to start a scene they can't because they are spoiled rich kids who can't commit to the thing.
UB enjoyer trying hard to shit on Premodern chads...Hilarious if you ask me.
>>98524932I'm relatively new, I think the community just likes to complain, it's full of fucking whiners honestly. They'll whine about your cards, they'll whine about their cards, they'll whine about wizards, they'll whine about their lgs, they'll whine about the format, they'll whine about UB, they'll whine about UW. It's genuinely pretty baffling to me coming from competitive video games.
>>98511189>Randomly putting bandages on otherwise cute things I want to flay alive anyone who does this
>>98512603I was browsing this general in business class about a year ago and Anon posted an image of the Hasbro CEO (I think?) next to a quote about making money in the most jargonized, corporate language imaginable.It disgusted me so much I sold my entire collection to an LGS to buy a Saiga 12 that was on sale as well as an AR-10 no it wasn’t to go for the high score, I’m just into guns
>>98525844Your move, cutie.
>>98512603I would like to cite Alchemy mode in Magic Arena (late 2021) and the release of Modern Horizons 3 (summer 2024) as two specific moments that have caused my enjoyment of Magic to trend downwards.Magic is a game where the more seriously you take it, the less fun it becomes. I'm happy just being a casual at Magic.
MH4 when, I'm tired of energy and eldrazi
>>98526155MH4 will have energy eldrazi, energy evoke elementals (including energy Grief), double faced modal cards where one side is land and Nadunergy
>>98526155>wish grantedModern Horizons 4, but it's all a bunch of weird and yet overpowered previously unsupported tribal cards, forcing everyone to throw out their modern decks and buy the new cards>W/U Doctors Lifegain coupled with a bunch of free counterspells that cost life>U/B Crabs Mill that also severely punishes the opponent when they cast spells>B/R Devils stealing stuff including board, hand, library, and even spells on the stack>R/G Boars Energy AND Infect at once>G/W Elephants that make multiple huge tokens every single turnMagic is saved, Mark Rosewater buys another house, and Hasbro is bought out by a Saudi Oil family.
>>98526193>B/R Devils stealing stuff including board, hand, library, and even spells on the stackI would sell my soul for that
>Player can now be reported (ie. banned) on Arena.I HOPE YOU CHUDS ARE YOUR BEST BEHAVIOR FROM NOW ON, WOTC IS WATCHING YOU! https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/player-reporting
>>98525985I want you to reach in that drawer and give me the potato peeler
>>98526263What the fuuuuck? There is no chat in the game what are they talking about?
I miss Jeskai control during Ikoria with Narset and Ultimatum and cycling Yidarro...
>>98526193>free counterspells that cost lifeYou just reminded me of a custom card I made like 4 years ago>2026I had to pull the card back up because I lost the original image
>>98526193B/R devils you described is just Rakdos scam but with Tergrid added.
>>98526346They need chat if they want to add Commander eventually. They do.
>>98526263>People were abusing the report system to locate the profiles of their opponents and harass them>So we added an option to the report system for this behaviorAmazing.
>>98526635How do you even harass someone on arena lmao? Do they mean finding their email or something? I dont get it.
>tfw too retarded to know the riddle
>>98526683If you tried to report your opponent in Arena for cheating the report system would expose all their account information so you could add them and start sperging out.
>>98514701Misuse of the of the word parasitic, opinion discarded.Venture into the dungeon.
>>98526346Based on Arena complaints;Slow play where the opponents waits until their timer nearly runs out to end their turn.Emote spamming the opponent spams their emotes now more annoying due to voiced emotesInappropriate usernames such as George Floyd and 1988.
>>98527285Unrelated, but I find the idea of "parasitic mechanic" a bit odd because that's functionally every mechanic. The exact context they used to refer to it was Arcane because it did nothing on its own, but by that logic you could say every creature type is a parasitic mechanic. They also clearly didn't think that it was enough of a problem to not revisit "parasitic" design twice with Lessons.Yeah no shit cards only work when they're supported that's the whole point of the mechanic not literally being Kicker or Horsemanship.
>>98527346Arcane wasn't the parasitic mechanic it was Splice onto Arcane that was considered parasitic. They don't have problems with tribal like lessons but they obviously considered Learn the parasitic mechanic since you can rummage instead if you don't have lessons.
>>98526346apparently people encounter a lot of racist names
>>98527394That doesn't really make sense to me because the same argument applies to tribal as well. "Soldiers you control get +1/+1" well what if I'm a retard running no Soldiers in my deck or WotC decides to phase out Soldiers for 1/1 Glup Shitto Warriors?
I will report any single one of my opponents on Arena.
>>98527346I think parasitic is overused, because plenty of cards are functional (maybe not good but functional) on their ownBut some stuff like energy had some genuinely parasitic cards, if the card could both generate and spend energy it was functional itself, if it could only do one or the other it literally didnt work without seperate cards
>>98527456Tribal cards are parasitic, WotC just usually only supports tribes with a lot of variety to begin with so its not as obvious and new sets will incidentally support it
>>98527456Tribal is less parasitic since they can just print those types in future sets but it's harder to print parasitic mechanics in future sets since it's useless text in those texts wasting space for draft.
>>98527522Typelines cost nothing.
>>98527525Exactly parasitism main problem is cost.
>>98527571Arcane and Lesson are typeline mechanics.
>We finally get bans in Standard>Standard gets even worsethe absolute fucking state of this game
>>98527469I unno, Energy was a fine concept in my desu opinionThe idea of a separate, alternative resource that players have to manage is interesting, and if ya boy Richie had introduced it back in the 90s then people would be highly praising itThe fundamental problem is that >it would need to be supported in almost every set, so there's always a reason to interact with it>it would need to be called something a bit more generic and universal than "Energy", since that only works immediately with machines and artifacts>every other resource in the game affects and is affected directly by unrelated actions that are naturally part of the game's flow, so this would need to somehow be integrated into the basic gameplay loop
>>98528770Maybe if it was in ABU but by Ice Age people were already getting pissed off at arbitrary new mechanics like snow lands.
>>98528520>comfy midrange meta>even worse
>>98528770>if a piece of shit new resource to track was old we would like tracking itpoison has that pedigree and it sucks. energy also sucks, and the structure of Magic makes it impossible for them not to suck.
Oh good my asian garbage came in today.
>>98525136Did trans woman hurt your pathetic feelings?
>>98528520is this really a surprise? seems like every single round of bannings in standard has made things worse somehow
>>98524488Someone should tell them this archetype is also known as Suicide Black.
>>98529373yes
>>98529553Never too late to join them, sister
>>98514701>I'm a cedh playerActually just fuck off and die lol
>>98524816Secundees nutsssd
How many decks do y'all have?For modern I have Burn, Scales & Affinity, for Pauper I have Altar Tron & Ponza, and for EDH I have three decks.
>>98524322Why is something easily achievable a peak fantasy for you? It does makes me think.
JustplaythePremodern
Weird question but I have one of those Arkhive 400 deck boxes, and I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions for something I can use to hold dice that would fit inside it? I found this thing online but it's a metal one and they want 60USD for it and that's a bit much imo.
>>98528770>Energy >Mana>Qi>VrilIt's all the same shit, why not use it?
You sit down to play a few rounds of magic, when one player barges in.>Guys, I found out about this cool new format named PREMODERN. You take cards that were stored in some damp cellar for 25 years and build one of the three viable decks in the format. It's non-rotating and there will never be new cards, so you will play the same stuff over and over again. Forever. Isn't that great? I got that Brazilian guy to sell me his playsets of only slighty water-damaged premodern staples for just a couple hundred bucks.How do you respond without insulting him?
>>98530729>Bro, why aren't you playing with proxies like we told you to? Here, take my proxy deck for a spin. I wanna see how it does against my main.
>>98530729Stifle his next orgasm
>>98530729Ayo cuz, you know I only finna play a format I can play on my phone between homosexual buttsex. Ya heard?
This thread is moving slower than Gavin Kikey’s promise to make powerful white cards.
>>98530860I'm sorry White never got a better card since 1999.
>>98530870Ocelot Pride isn't real. It doesn't exist in my mind.
>>98531020Are you implying that some one drop that dies to everything is better than Replenish?
>>98531089No because Ocelot Pride isn't real.
>>98531121You're not real.
>3 new sets previewed>thread completely deadNebraska ... is ... booming ...
Finally. The Izzet and Selesnya menaces have been defeated. Now we can return to good, honest Magic which consists solely of Dimir raping the game like it has for 35 years.
>>98531523Feel free to make a new one faggot.
>>98531558
>>98531610>make a new dead threadUBslop enjoyers can't escape the low IQ allegation
>>98531534>>98531534>>98531534
>>98531622>Landfall followed by 3 decks that win by handripping youGrim
>>98531644KWAB
They should invent a format that isn't decided by turn 3.
>>98533398You mean pauper?
