You're The Inspiration EditionPrevious: >>98528962>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: What take or idea have you gotten from /tg/ that inspired you to make a deck? And how much of a pile of jank is it?
the strongest earthbending commander and that PISSES ME OFF
>TQSomeone said something about not being able to build a "2" so I built her as one.Its turbo jank.
I love this lil nigga.
>>98535760>5c>Draws cards on earthbendingWhat did you expect?
>>98535765Can you dump 20 mana into this and just kill players?
>>98535760How do you build this? Do you just never even try to transform it and use it as an earth bending commander? It is cool he draws a card on attack.
>>98535765this is why jumpstart sets are cool. 17 bucks though. is she worth it? the most I spent on a commander is $21 for Indo rex alpha
>>98535812No. I don't believe the ability stacks Even if it did. 10 snakes will only hit once. and they do their damage first then the trigger happens cutting their life, so no matter what you'd leave them at 1.
>>98535801oh fuck I totally forgot about that card and meant to order it for a couple decks
>>98535831>is she worth it?She is cute. So yeah.
>>98535835No, you can activated her "lose half your life" ability as many times as you want, It will half each time.
>>98535858Well, that;s good to know, but its rounded up so they will still always be left at 1.
>>98535869then use pestilence to finish everyone off
>>98535934Good point.
>>98535869If were at 1 already the 1/1 snake token you poked them with will just end it.
Yeah, just look at avatar aang and it really just becomes "The best Earthbending cards supported by 3 random firebendings and airbending effects"
>>98535939Yes, if you do 1 damage to a person with 1 health, you can kill them with 1 damage. Very good. The question was can you kill them with her ability in 1 go, which is not possible by itself since the combat damage happens before the health gets cut.
BLOR!!!!
Still mad they made her a comboslop commander instead of giving her squirrellink.
>>98535977she's cute but I wish they went full Marvel Rivals sex design with her>>98535964how many lands would protect the castle style blor want?
>>98535964Can anyone stop him? The answer is no.
>>98536001Captain Kirk
> blows up tron lands, Ashdod's altar, Mishra's factory (& workshop!) , ornithopter, candelabra of tawnos, feldon's cane, ivory tower, MILLSTONE, power artifact, STRIP MINE, triskelion, gate to phyrexia ....why the HELL are you not putting Golgothian Sylex in YOUR commander deck????! this card is broken AF
With the changes to mana abilities Selvala can no longer do horseshit with Panglacial Wurm but I sense new bullshit on the horizon
>>98536001Anyone equipped with this can.
>>98536025I don't play with proxyfags who run any of these things.
>>98536001edict stonks RISING in anticipation of a massive untouchable BLOR
>>98536025I just lookup the lore on this thing and goddamn, old magic lore was so fucking cool.
>>98536025>Blows up Strip MineOh boy now I can stop my opponent from using Strip Mine's ability multiple times!
>>98536025I just lookup the lore on this thing and goddamn, magic lore is so fucking lame.
>>98536006I think you misremember the lore. Capt Kirk likes to fuck green WOMEN not green frogs>>98536034>>98536001or the special mode of Shadowspear that no one ever remembers it has, even when its on the board
>>98536027Very doubtful because it would have to be a higher ceiling than Isochron/Reversal, or on the casual end, Nyxbloom Ancient resolving.
>>98536051You can do that with earthbending
>>98536058>bought this>It immediately went over my personal rule to not use card over 40 dollars. Run a proxy of it though
>>98536058Who forgets that? That's the entire reason to run Shadowspear.
>>98536068You can also do it with that 90 trillion play lands from graveyard cards.
>>98536075Yea but I want you to do it with earthbending
>>98535726>>98535752>TQironic the toski poster was the first reply. I built a toski deck purely from seeing him spammed in here over the last few months. its one of my favorite decks to play. its a Voltron equipment commander. I gave the BLOR guy a bunch of suggestions from my TOSKI deck that work wellits a bracket 2 but kind of too powerful (no GC's). and not very janky at all, I just end up with a Squirrel wearing a Champion's Helm, Commander Plate, Iron Man's armor, Lightning Greaves wielding a Shadow Spear and a Buster Sword. while riding a horse (the Dilu Horse that is)
>>98535964>>98536001That's a cute statue you got there fella :)
>>98536058It's a shame Lara is such a dogshit commander.
>>98536074I lost a game last month because I forgot it had that ability and I didnt use it. white player made all his shit indestructible and then over ran me. but I had a wipein the words of YES:"It can happen to youIt can happen to meIt can happen to everyone eventually"
>>98536080YOOOOOOO great card
>>98536083Like most theft decks (which she is in disguise) she requires you opponents to have good shit. People don't usually send legendary lands to the graveyard except channel lands, which don't do anything for her.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98536025You can't play that card it's MLD.
>>98536109>>98536121both of these claims have been debunked
>>98536025I never see most of those cards.
>>98536079Glad I could make a difference
>>98536148Ok, and how would you know?
>>98536121>help gavin heeeeeeeelp meeeeee
>blow up a guy's Gaea's Cradle and Marwyn>he puts down Aura Shards and Panharmonicon the turn after>no one else on the table does anything I HATE BEING POLICE I CANT KEEP PEOPLE IN CHECK 1 BY 1 WHATS THE PLAY TO MAKE EVERYONE SLOWER
>>98536193AHHHH! I'm MLDing!
>>98536198>ok mr policeman what's your busted play to keep up with us?>uh... land, pass?lol
>>98536198You already know.
>>98536198this 20¢ card
>>98536198also this, but probably need to order a Chinese Reprint of it
>>98536198>>98536205>plays Gaea's cradle nothing personnel kid
I tap my land for mana
>>98536206>>98536208>>98536208So the answer is Orzhov(?) Stax? Ill see what I can do>>98536214Yeah I strip mined the Cradle and rollicked the elf but it didnt really matter since he had like 3 other dorks up
>>98535726>TQThis blue fuck. Built him after seeing some posts about mono blue commander options and him being mentioned. He turned out to be exactly what I was hoping for. Dry erase tribal has been a lot of fun. It's pretty jank since I also leaned into bobbleheads after seeing them suggested but they end up helping decently well when you're making loads of them.
>>98536198Staxs is and making people play slower is gay. Just be table police even harder with even more removal.
>>98536227Playing stax is admitting defeat.
There is nothing wrong with stax
Does your pod rule 0 to make mana burn a thing?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqsOz0YGc0Y
>>98536311No one's pod does this
>>98536311There is functionally no reason to do this which is the whole reason mana burn got removed in the first place. It was a useless mechanic that served no purpose once people realized that they can actually cast a spell after playing 4x Dark Ritual.
>>98536198I love having stax bozos at the table. All they do is slow down my enemies and eat my opponent's interaction one piece at a time. They will whine and cry but they never had a real chance of winning, you can't soft lock 3 players out of the game magic doesn't work like that. After they've (rightfully) been killed off I speed up my clock and start going for the win while both other players are out of gas. I love you useful idiots, never stop playing stax you'll win eventually!
There's nothing right with stax.
Commanders for this feel?
>>98536374
>>98535984What if I told you she was always marvel rivals sex?
>Razia is my eternal commander>Have had her in my first and primary deck since I started playing Magic more than 20 years ago>She's a 50 cent card>Realize my commander isn't Foil, and I have one of those Display-your-Commander-on-the-Side deck boxes>Can't sleep at night, knowing everyone is privately laughing at me when I show up with my non-foil commander>"He doesn't even love her enough to have her in foil? How can he say he loves Razia if he doesn't even have her in foil?">Knowing she's a rare that's been reprinted a few times and she's a garbage card no one wants, her foil must be a buck or two>Can't find a NM under $30, it's out of stock almost everywhere>Of course, only her original printing would be available as a foil, and there's collectors trying to assemble complete foil sets driving up the price>reflexively check websites every few weeks, wondering if it even makes sense to buy a foil Razia when I already have the only version of her I'll ever actually play because that physical card is one of the very few that's managed to remain in my favorite deck since I first received it from the friend who taught me how to play Magic>find a NM for $15>buy it without thinkingIt's actually pretty nice. Easily one of the better looking foil cards I've seen, and I can keep her in my little deck-box-side window while I use my original in actual games.
>>98536403Real talk my nigger, Thee haste makes this at least playable. You can just keep recasting her when she dies randomly and get commander kills.
Belladonna player when you have to keep track of counters on tokens
>>98536403I actually bought foil copies of every version of my first commander (even the big one) deck I ever bought. Still have this deck and keep it updated.
>>98536455>Council of Reed player when they have to keep track of Reeds
>>98536455Cathar's Crusade players when the game goes more than one turn after they resolve it
>>98536412RW are not the colors for good mana ramping. Getting to 8 mana, let alone 10 or 12, is almost always going to be slower than the other players, who are going to be dropping much scarier things than a 6-power flyer.She's been powercrept significantly. Any of the Aurelias is significantly stronger, and there's also Gisela, and that's just talking about Angels. In her own deck there's more than a dozen cards that would be stronger commanders.But, that's largely what makes killing someone with Razia so satisfying. That big 6 power means it doesn't take much to get her to deal 21+ damage in one swing, and my deck is filled with lots of damage doublers/doublestrike enablers, so getting to 4x damage isn't too hard. She's only one Genji Glove away (though, to be fair, that can be said about most commanders).
the three most powerful keywords on a commander:hastetrampledraw
>>98536566Draw is not a keyword.
>>98536578creating 1/1 squirrels when it deals damage is though
Been wanting to get into mtg with Neerdiv, so I tried out making my first alter :)
What do they mean when they call him "pip mizzet"? Is this a sex thing?
>>98536583more sovl than half the OC here
>>98536583Not bad desu
>>98536457I did my best to get an oversized version of Gisela at the pre-release back in the day, and I just checked to see what a foil oversized version would cost to match the foil regular-sized one I have.$300+ is a bit much, and seems to be sold out everywhere. Kinda glad I didn't cave in and make her my commander.Whoa.I actually just looked at an article that says there were only ever 30 printed. And at least one of them was in moderately played condition (what the fuck), meaning less than 29 remaining that could be NM. I'd be better off just going to some Chinese printer that does oversized cards, especially since it's not a tournament legal card anyway.Hell, at that point, I might as well get an oversized foil Razia.
>mfw went so far as to sleeve mountains and a sunforger in my odric deck before remembering he's fucking pure white and I'm stupid as shit
>>98536198Trinisphere
>>98535801yeah, love running it with wheels since they slipped up while soft banning notion thief
>>98536753Bad odric is RW though.
>>98536001literally fire nation drill
>>98536773What an absolute dog shit card
>>98536080>voltron creature>deals 21 commander damage and gives you aids>you lose and your permanents and effects ceasegreat going retard
>>98536779If you have a way to take advantage of a lot of useless artifacts, it's probably not too bad.
>>98536793I can think of a much better way to make some blood
>>98536403the buyer's remorse is strong in this one
>>98536805I don't think there's going to be a reason for the price to ever go below $15 before the MTG apocalypse where all cards lose all value. I have a hard time believing they'd do another foil Razia printing.
>>98536818well now you fucking jinxed it
>>98536001I like to keep at least one answer to literally anything that can also be pulled up by a sunforger.
>>98536403Cool as fuck. I kind of want a foil Rakdos the Defiler but not for any sentimental reason. Would play against your boros deck.
>>98536403>6/3 for 8 including four color pipsThey don't make em like they used to
https://youtu.be/vjqjpSas07Y?si=76vRwy8UQNALZbls&t=778
>>98535820he's a 5c asshole that lets you run anything, notably none of the other earthbending commanders can actually run all of the Earthbending cards and need to skip really strong ones, like Earthshape.at 4 mana he draws probably 3 cards per turn if your whole deck is earthbending. and then you do generic ramp/landfall/land sac good stuff and counters matter stuff like The Earth Crystal (flavor win?)>Do you just never even try to transform it then transform is insanely hard to pull off even if you try to build the deck around it, so it's a lot stronger to focus on a specific theme, and the most supported themes in Commander are Firebending and Earthbending. He's the best Firebending commander too btw, there's just no better trigger than his unrestricted draw trigger for either archetype. And it's a perfect match since Firebending adds a bunch of mana (so does Earthbending in a roundabout way)
>>98536583That's pretty good anon. Keep it up. Painting your own alters is cool.
>>98536753Keep those ready for when we finally properly revisit Innistrad and get a good red white Odirc.
>>98536936Can we count on Return To Return To Innistrad before 2030?
>>985369882028 will be 3 UB sets and 3 innistrad sets.
>>98536583thin your paints and you really need to make a full line in a single stroke. yes, it's supposed to take several layers
>>98537014don't give me hope anon... i want another avacyn, foolish as it may be
>>98537034She's dead though. Maybe there will be a colorshifted Avacyn in reality fracture, but I doubt it because we've already seen her turn evil so a dark mirror of Avacyn isn't really treading new ground.
>>98537216yeah i'm aware, she's still the most sexo angel IMO though so i gotta hold out
Has anyone ever dealt with these guys? I just wanna know if I just threw 200 dollars down the toilet.
>>98536403>at uni>browse /edhg/>see dommy mommy angel >>>armpits>start getting hardGod damn it I need to get off this site
https://moxfield.com/decks/lzmILv7ZrU-fOi_DkRh5FwTrying to build homer mill landfall but i have no clue what I'm doing, can i get some feedback on my deck please?
>>98537643>No graveyard exile"Thanks for feeding me!"-Reanimator/Delve playerNo scapeshift.No Tempt with Discovery.One land drop per turn?
>>98537643>>98537691>One land drop per turn?Sidenote now that I saw the lands, because FORTY FOUR with only one drop per turn is fucking terrible. If you're going to run more than 36 lands, you should have something that lets you play more than one land per turn. If you want more spells, toss in more fetches to at least double-up your landfall triggers. Even if you don't want to spend the money on the two-colors, there's a shitload of Evolving Wilds variants and the fetches from New Capenna are playable in casual brackets. Having one land drop per turn is slow, even if you get multiple clones of your commander out, which in itself is dubious since a lot of your clones clone things you control, but don't get around the legend rule, which is going to fuck you if you're trying to clone Homer. I'm assuming you're cloning Homer because you barely have any creatures outside of clones. What you should do is get some cheap utility creatures that have relevance at any time while feeding into your gameplan, like a Wood Elves.
>>98537643>no crop rotation>no Ashaya>no Aftermath Analyst>not using your graveyard as a second hand when Homer mills any number of players
I actually really like firebending. What are some commanders that can take advantage of the mana? Yeah yeah, Azula, but I don't want her.
>>98536311>>98536316hell yes this is awesome. I wish they would make cards enabling mana burn other than that one commanderwhen I started in 2010 one of my roommates was teaching me and I learned with mana burn. but then I was reading the rules and saw they had just taken it out so it was kind of confusing. then if you played the duel part of Shandalar (Mana Link) there was mana burn. but on MTGO there was noneI dont have a "pod" I only play with randoms and theres been 0 house rules so far with any of them but if I had a regular group of dudes yes I would use mana burn
>>98537795Aside from Ozai or any of the other AtLA legends?I really want to see someone make an Akroma, Angel of Fury firebending deck.
>>98537806Meant for >>98537792
>>98537814>>98537814I kinda wanted to not do the avtar cards themselves, but I am leaning towards Zuko, I really like Fire Occupation and Turret. Zuko just seems a little too "build around"
>>98537326is that what it costs to print off a whole deck?ive only dealt with bootleg mage who has a great selection and prices but ships SO fucking slow (like a week of processing then another 4 or 5 days to put the package in the mail). I have an order placed on august 8 (with cards added later) that says it's not arriving until Saturday allegedly. and I have bought direct from China from USea. one time I got the cards in exactly a week, the other time it took like 10 days. thats with standard shipping. great prices and selection, every obscure reserved list card and brand new stuff not long after its available. but the standard shipping costs $15.
>>98537792Fuck yeah Firebending is awesome. Unfortunately, see >>98535760But in case you WEREN'T trying to run 5c. Olivia wouldn't mind adding a bunch of mana at instant speed.And Ozai is the firebend-iest Firebending commander if that's what you want.
Clues also love firebending I realized.
>>98537825Mardu Zuko is weird and ends up caring a lot more about his second ability than his first. Sure you can hit him with a pump spell or whatever but at that point he's just a 3 mana Firebending Student; meh...>I kinda wanted to not do the avtar cards themselvesZada loves red instants and attacking creatures.
>>98537845yeah that was in the limited set design, even
Solid Firebending payoff here.
>>98537792I think some of the Final Fantasy 4+ mana spent matters legends would work with it.
>>98537830>is that what it costs to print off a whole deck?not at all, you're printing a premium just to imitate the mtg card back (which kind of reveals your real desires btw), proxies with white backs are cheap as hell
Only fools assume they get to pass through their upkeep unscathed. I'm straight up gonna tap your land and you cannot stop me.
>>98537875well other than complete n00bz (who probably wouldn't even understand to proxy shit) why would you need to proxy basic lands unless all your basics are GURU lands or something and you have every other good land from ABUR duals to shocks to fetches (and I guess the Surviel tap lands are good?). lands are like 33% of the deck
>>98537880based
Punishing ANYONE not playing big stompy
>>98537923my target has a bunch of lorwyn eclipsed boosters in there. is it worth opening a couple? I'm not impressed by this owl
>>98537928Financially? Never gamble. For fun? I really liked the set but it is kinda tribal slop so if you don't like elves it's gonna be a bunch of useless chaff. There are some good evergreens in it though, but if you don't like my girl Abi you'll probably not like it unless you pull a shock.
>>98537904there's no reason a proxy of any card is worth $3 even considering labor costs, other than you trying to console yourself (hmmm i wonder why) by having to have a very good imitation of the mtg card back
>>98537928>I'm not impressed by this owlIt can shut down certain commanders on entry and makes dumb shit like pic related into a threat. What's there not to like?
Feather is also a fan of firebending, Sadly, she is boring because she spends half the game getting killed or making people cry.
>>98537970He's already a threat. He's perfect as he is.
>>98537830Well it’s originally $2 per card but as you buy a bigger bulk it’ll go down until you get to 200 cards which will make it $.75 a cardI just printed a bunch of high value cards like tutors, Eldrazi titans, and other good shit and ordered like 250 with some foils ($3 a foil)>>98537875The backs I ordered clearly show it’s a proxy, I’m not THAT big of a piece of shit
>>98537970rotting regisaur my belovedbit of an obvious game plan, though. is there any cool way to build Abigale that isn't "blink Abigale and turn my entire deck into Serra Ascendants"
>>98538015you can get 100 proxies from mpc for ~.40 a card. that's after including shippingless if you want more cards
>>98538039i swear proxytards keep stomping their feet that they don't want to be swindled by wotc but they keep letting themselves be swindled by chang for fake cards
>>98537734Got it. The plan is actually to clone the ruin/hedron crabs, since they both contribute to homer's gameplan and also accelerate mill, which is why I've got a few tutors to grab them more easily. Cloning homer is merely a bonus. >>98537766What kind of recursion do you think would be good with this deck?
>>98538054I’d rather be swindled by a chink than by a kike
>>98538087>I’d rather be swindled by a chink than by a kike
After thinking about it, Avatard Aang is the best Firbending commander because every instance of firbending draws you cards, which you can cast if they are red. Goddamn, what a mistake,
WHITESMy playgroup is doing mono color decks and I'm jumping on the W grenade. Suggestions other than the new phyrexian equipment broad?Aiming for middle of the road, 2 - low 3. We're not autistic about gamechangers especially in a mono color only environment
>>98538029It's a decent stax commander. Just remove whatever problem ability is on the board can do wonders.
>>98538151I'm gonna pitch you Yosei. If they value their untap step they will leave you be.
>>98538054not sure who exactly you were referring to. but every time I've ordered from mpc I've gotten a card back of a cute design or anime girl. so I'd think of them more as deluxe proxies than as counterfeits. there's really no difference between using an mpc proxy vs using a sharpie marker other than how nice it looksand if nice-looking custom proxies can be had for less than 40¢ a pop I'd sure like to know where
>>98536034Such a simple but useful card to get past a big ass giga 5/5 double strike indestructible deathtouch nigga
>>98537643Ruin/hedron are your only landfall triggers?You're self mill landfall (sorta) but don't have a splendid rec effect.I saw a Homer video recommended on YouTube, did that guy say clone Homer? Because that would let you mill x^2, but none of your clones will let you have multiple Homers.Lazav, any/all of him synergies. Actual landfall triggers; obby, roll elemental, avenger, then work back once you like them or not. Ramp; splendid rec, aftermath analyst, titan; lumra and will of sultai are expensive. reanimator package; reanimate is the best and dread return is easy for self mill. Anything that returns stuff from gy to hand; emeritus of abundance, just plain regrowth or even all suns dawn. Nonlegendary clones. Tormod's crypt.
>>98538147point made here >>98536930 (what if adding mana made me draw cards??? whoa)but yeah you kind of have to just ignore his existence if you're trying to optimize Firebending and don't wanna build 5c. you can help yourself cope by saying that 5c landbases are expensive anyway and rakdos is more soulful and thematic
>>98537792One anon here made roku clue tokens.
>>98536079What is the card you think gets you the most value in the deck/ which are you the most happy to see?
>>98536311I should. It makes someone whiffing an infinite much more funny.
>>98538147>Goddamn, what a mistakei assure you a lot more people (paying for real cardboard btw) would be complaining if wotc made the final form of the main protagonist an underwhelming card, let alone a bulk one
>>98538246There's "underwhelming" then there is unimaginative. Aung is the latter.
>>98538173all i'm saying is if you're gonna proxy the correct way is to pay cents for someone else to do it for you not $3
>>98538246I'm less annoyed by the existence of the 5c aang and more annoyed by the fact that the strongest Firebending commanders with the most inclusive colors don't really push their decks towards Firebending theming. Mai and Zuko are way over here on this "artifacts and allies" thing while Azula is just winning the entire game by attacking once with Big Score in hand...it's fine, I actually like when you can't run everything you want. I guess it's even lore accurate to see the overpowered generalist protagonist check the boxes that nobody else can lol
>>98538256oh yeah I could only see paying $3 a card if you were trying to sneak them past a judge or something. but I wouldn't know anything about that, I only play casually
>>98538254the wheel is so unimaginative so better remove them from your car anon and put square ones instead wouldn't want people to call you slop
>Miku deck won't be here in time for Thursday night Casuals.Fuck you WOTC, I hope you die.
>>98538254I think he's fine for the idea they were trying to fulfill which is "jam every kind of bending into one deck"but weirdly his front side payoff is so strong that he overshadows most commanders that care about doing just one of those things. like am I crazy for saying it should have said "for the first time each turn"? so that you would need to do multiple kinds of bending to draw 30 cards off of him?yeah I know he's a mythic rare 5c protagonist but
>>98538308>for the first time each turnwhoa whoa now, he is not a mono white card, slow your roll.
>play it turn 2>Made 0 treasures with it by then 5 when I just won the game outright Card sucks.
>>98538339>play card>magically summon opponents who never draw cardsseems like it's awesome to me
>>98537792>>98538271It is probably due to the commanders with extra colors needing to cover additional themes in order to justify those colors. That said, Ozai probably strikes the best balance in terms of functionality while being a more specific firebending payoff of being able to stockpile the mana from it. I think that gives you the best blend of focusing on the mechanic without just being 5 color soup.
>>98538339The problem is Monowhites "hahaha you are the catch up color". Very very few monowhite cards can be outright good unless you are playing catch up. If you are catching up, you are behind for a reason. I have no idea why this has been the design theme for monowhite forever.
>>98538339nobody drew a card on their turn, or two cards on someone else's turn, in a bracket 4 game?that sounds nonstandard
>>98538339>waste turn 2>win anyway on turn 5never happened
It's like if Rhystic Study never drew you a card, it means you played a one sided Sphere of Resistence, which would be an amazing card in its own right.
Finally going to throw this together for FNM commander tomorrow. The deck isn't complete, and I still need to fiddle with this pod chain in pic. An unintended side effect of going all-in on the FF saga summons is that a shitload of them sit at 5, so my pod chains feel cucked.I think I'm gonna add Teedus for card draw, and Summon Choco/Mog even if it sucks ass. But the deck has so many competing themes/subthemes that it's actually difficult to construct.
>>98538339Did you ever consider that your opponents changed their decision making and skipped draw opportunities BECAUSE you had the card in play and they didn't want to feed you while you were ahead?
>>98538339>I played this card, it controlled my opponent’s behavior, and I won>card sux kikes hate white :((((((
>>98538339Homosexual lizard mind control
>>98535869Losing half of 1 rounded up is 1 which means you lose.
>>98538634Took a while for someone to notice that. Based attention payer.
>>98538374>Opponent spends 3 mana to draw 2 cards>You spend 2 mana to catch up to them
>>98538820>You cards power depends on your opponents getting aheadThis is always bad. The floor for a catch up card negative.
>>98538851Can't imagine this design ever being good.
>>98538859This is an example of a card be so good that it is banned from commander. This is not catch up but "get the fuck down here on my level."
>>98538871They are the same principle where it's a card that's only beneficial when you are "behind"
I went and built a Flip Spider-Gwen and dagnabbit, she's fun...
>>98538068>which is why I've got a few tutors to grab them more easilyUsing a new tutor to grab a one drop that's just a bonus?I'm going to assume you're a bit new, because you're falling into the edhrec trap of reading a commander, seeing a type in its textbox, and going in on tribal, rather than actually playing into what the commander does.A few crabs are good for making Homer's ability worthwhile, but an extra land will make up for some of the clones while accelerating you for when Homer inevitably dies.And for fuck's sake, get a Phenax, God of Deception and Mutable Explorer in that list. The former lets Homer mill for 9 even if you don't hit your drop, and the latter is a crab that triggers your landfall.Also, Water Stone and Fraying Sanity.Forced Fruition if you want to be nutty.For that other anon's point, mill sucks unless you're either so fast you get a table-wide 90 card mill out quickly, or you're playing from graveyards, because nobody is trying to help your gameplan, you're going to get salt from newfags who don't understand how randomization works, and at worst you actively help an opponent. You practically need some way to either go all-in on exiling yards constantly, or steal shit from graveyards. Animate Dead is reliable and cheap mana-wise. Geth, Lord of the Vault is nutty and you should be ramping so you'll have mana to spare. Captain N'ghathrod is repeatable. Hell, anything like a Wight of Precinct Six for payout.Mill's not a new archetype, and with Homer you have the avenue of doing it with a payout for ramp. You should be looking at that.And seriously, if you're not going to toss i shit like Exploration and Azusa, cut that land count and add in more ramp.
>>98538859Balance is absurdly powerful but I still want them to unban it because the Kev Walker art is cool as fuck.
>>98538909Torn between her and Zuko for a cast from exile matters deck
>>98538186>did that guy say clone Homer? Because that would let you mill x^2I haven't seen the video, but no, that's not the main goal. The clones are for the hedron, ruin, and uchuulons, mostly>but none of your clones will let you have multiple Homers.Spark double, irenicus' vile duplication, and sakashima all allow for non-legendary copies. I only need one of them to allow for the other clones to all copy the og, but that's honestly more of a benefit than anything else. It's a lot harder to justify wasting removal on a copy of a 1 drop crab than it is killing an increasingly-expensive commander, which is why I'm more focused on using the rather unassuming crabs as the main wincon over homer, who is merely another source of mill. That said, i definitely need more acceleration, because playing it against my more removal heavy decks usually results in a slow win, if it wins at all, so I'll add most of your suggestions. Would you remove the counterspells to make room for more land acceleration?
>>98538851>This is always bad.All the most powerful cards in EDH are based around the idea that it's a multiplayer format, and relying only on your own triggers is not going to be as effective as taking advantage of your multiple opponents having considerable more resources/triggers than you do.Cards that would be garbage in 1v1 but trigger each upkeep/endstep/etc. surge ahead of cards that only trigger once on your turn. Cards that can clear the board state are effectively essential unless your deck is so fine-tuned that you show up to a poker game to play solitaire.
Just pulled this card, why is it $12?Is there some kind of 'make 100 artifacts and tap to tutor a card' thing making it that expensive
>>98539192>make 100 artifactsWhat, in Treasure: The Hoardening?
>>98539097Cyclonic rift and rhystic study were (maybe still are) considered dogshit in 1v1.They only become popular and got value because of commander.
>>98539192In any kind of artifact focused deck, it lets you dig for answers in a pinch, or draw a good card when you've got a surplus of mana or nothing to do. Even if you've got only 5 artifacts, looking at the top 5 cards to grab a counterspell or a boardwipe is REALLY useful. It's not hard to shit out artifacts these days either, what with treasures and clues and blood tokens and food tokens and what have you. Plus, it's also from the bonus sheet and is a mythic, so it's kind of hard to pull.
>>98539192I use it in my anim pakal deck. Anything where you are making more than 2 artifacts a turn wants this card.
>Miku deck arrived in a city 2 and a half hours away 2 hours ago.Hope!
Looking for artifacts commander that can hang in mid-high power B3. Are Jhoira Weatherlight or Shorikai solid?
>slow game>2 of the players are known locals legitimately autistic/higher functioning but cool and well behaved>4th guy is glarb, who previously through the months is always salty at me for winning>I'm playing voting/meme deck>glarb has rhystic, senseis, etc>its turn 6 and glarb mcfaggot has successfully controlled the game with counters and board wipes>no one else has anything>cast weftwalking because it's a meme voting deck>glarb player casts apex devastator for free, then casts overloaded cyc rift>dont want anyone else to be able to cast shit>fag mcretard can't even win because he just has a 10/10 and glarb>just makes the game a slog>basically lantern lock because he can cast counterspells out of his graveyard and has vorinclex nowwhat makes people go 'wow, 2 people who are a little slow, and a guy playing a meme deck to have fun with them at the end of the night, better rock a sultai control shell and shut everyone down and suck the fun out of the room'
>>98539205>Cyclonic rift and rhystic study were (maybe still are) considered dogshit in 1v1Rift saw a decent amount of play actually
>>98539276>you expected the game to be a relaxed b2, maybe even b1>the guy showed up with glarb, a notorious frog>he cast rhystic study, a GC>you didn't speak up and just took it like a pussy because just like the other 2 mentally disabled retards you're disabled too, specifically due to having no spine whatsoever
>look for a new commander>slop as far as the eye can see
>>98539276>weftwalkingYou deserve it for playing a grouphug card. This didn't happen btw.
>>98539341>not playing jerrard in all his glorious legends 1994 cardstock and faded colors to uphold the order of the closed fistfail
>>98539341>Bad players (most EDH "players") gravitate towards braindead and easy designswtf
>>98539341>Do what you want because a Pirate is freeTake the Pirate Pill anon
>>98539341I'm building this fella as a Deserts focus with some additional token support, haven't tried it in an actual game yet but it seems like a fun way to go wide.
still my baby
>>98539412>Is called Scion >Isn't a scion
>>98539412Still a better commander than ur-dragon too. I guess he is too complicated to catch on with casuals.
>>98539341if you can't find a commander that's a you problemyes there's slop but nobody is making you play heroes in a half shell
>>98539374I like the mechanics but I'm really not getting the "mushroom pirate" vibe from them
>>98539374>activate only as a sorcerytrash.
>>98539476yes scion is better than ur-dragon because scion is a B tier cedh deck where you can run like 3 dragons in the 99 and the rest is slop, your point?
>>98539483"Slop" extends to more than just UB, friend.
>>98539519My point is that he's also better and more fun in low/mid power.
>>98537433Razia is easily one of the top 10 sexiest cards in magic, and has the best butt in the game.
>>98539527>Tool box commander>Low/mid powerNo, that ain't it.
>>98539532Next you'll be telling me Prime Speaker Vannifar should be on the game changer list or some shit.
>>98539545vannifar is also a B tier cedh deck, funny how there's a pattern here
>>98539325my beef isn't 'wow he has a dozen game changers!' - I pulled a one ring hobbit boxtopper and had one. It's 'I'm going to counter and remove everything, then cyc rift'. If he had just won, sure, I was giving him shit for having a rhystic, but at a certain point, you have agency over your own actions. I'm just not going to play with him, and if he shows up as a +1 to one of my commander parties, I'm thinking of just turning him away. idk
>>98539488I assume the effect was there and someone thought "oh hey this works with fungus/spore counters" and slapped a mushroom on his type.>>985394931 infect counter is all you need to get the chain going sorcery or not
>>98539554>also a B tier cedh deckBut what if I simply put different cards in my deck than the cedh lists do so I can roll with low power shitters?
>>98539545She is not a toolbox.
>>98539583>breeding pool in the command zone isn't a toolbox
>>98539583Where have you picked up this idea that commanders have some static unchangeable decklists that they come with? Are you one them cedh larpers?
>>98539575sure you could do that, just don't be surprised if they wise up and gang up on you for having a birthing pod in the cz in simic colors
>>98539607>i'm running jank i promise, now please let me in your pod
>>98539599No, it is not. The ability to freely search you library for a given answer constitutes a toolbox. Vanny is too limited. Sisay (both of them) are toolbox commanders, Vannifar is a pod that has a very linear playstyle and going outside of the linearity to find answers instead breaks her combo line. Contrast with Sisay, Weatherlight Captain, whos only caveat to her tutor is her power. Sisay is also linear, however she does not have her lines broken if forced to tutor an answer.
>>98539599>breeding pool
>>98539621Fine by me, if you are lying the game is over in three turns anyway. I have 5 minutes to spare.
>>98539564>sorcery or notanyway, how are you responding with him to this instant spell hm?
Who are some commanders that are so outrageously powerful that you have to literally go out of your way to make a bad deck with them?
>Breya still the only yore-tiller commander>Yidris still the only glint-eye commander>Saskia still the only dune-brood commander>The only witch-maw commanders are 2 Atraxas>10 Ink-treader commanders
>>98539707black is evil
>>98539707>He wants to play 4c slop
>>98539707>only yore-tiller commanderThis sounds disgusting. Just call it WUBR or something.
>>98537852AI sloppa art and just look at that artist name>>98537933I went to Tar-zhey and bought 1 lorwyn eclipsed and 1 hobbit and got jack shit. there was 3 rares in the hobbit set. I knew after some really good recent luck (pulling a foil book art gleaming splendor among other things) not press it and yeah that was a waste. can't believe big box stores are charging 7.99 for hobbit play boosters. nutty!!>>98538015yeah for me all my "Chinese reprints" look real. ill order 7th edition foil versions if I want it to be known they're "reprints">>98538039and if you mix in real lands how does it feel with them>>98538087speaking truth to power here>>98538151gleaming splendor, smothering tithe, wrath of god, farewell, mana tithe, secret rendezvous (cloud + tifa art), swords to plowshares, disenchant, condemn, land tax, archaeomancer's map, tithe, darksteel mutation, generous gift, rebuff the wicked, CRUSADE, Kismet, Holy Day, MASS CALCIFY, restoration magiccreatures: sun titan, esper sentinel, grand abolisher, aven mind censor, weathered wayfarer, transcendent master, TROOP OF PONIESI'd suggest this nibba named co[rona]vax, hes a "nicer" version of elesh norn. or go tribal angels (baneslayer angel, sun blast angel, Serra avenger, et al) with Radiant Archangel
>>98539730Crovax is so good.>Murders shitter tokens (nonwhites)>Never have to pay commander tax>Looks cool as shit.Love this dude.
>>98539723>Nephilim erasureno.
>>98539739Epochal is undertuned. Should have searched Hand, Library and Exile.
>>98539739Can we compromise then and just call the color combos by their first name rather than their full legal name? Dune sounds better than Dune-Brood.
>>98539744Shit, meant "Library, Graveyard and Exile. "
>>98539739You can't officially use the Nephilim so those names never caught on. It's only been made worse by wotc printing a new one they want you to use to secret commander one of the old ones. All they had to do was errata 5 useless creatures nobody plays.
>>98539759>All they had to do was errata 5 useless creatures nobody plays.The refusal to do this blows my mind. No one would give a shit. It comes off as something born of pettiness somehow.
>>98539707new yore jace soon
>>98539773Nobody gives a shit about playing 4c either. It's performative shit mostly by Timmies that want to say "I'm not running blue!" that has no actual identity.
>>98538205thats really hard to say. Riding the Dilu Horse might be my favorite spell in the deck. it's so hard to interact with (basically have to exile Toski to get the effect off) since its not an enchantment but the effect persists. in almost all cases unless someone has blue knights with Herald of Hoofbeats you're gonna be unblockable and drawing more cards. its only a 1¢ card on MTGO where I prototype and test (and play a lot) of the decks but you don't really see it in person since the actual card is 600 bucks and even proxies are hard to find. I have a couple though. I really like Blackblade Reforged (equipment) as well, gets ridiculously big quick. Shadowspear just always works so well. Silent Arbiter has to be the secret MVP of the deck though. honorable mention would go to Buster Sword but its really more a "win more" card.
>>98539789Probably, but when they keep pumping out new 4c commanders in one color combo it does make people want more options for the others regardless of how different from 5c they actually are. With how haphazard they've been with creature type erratas in the past 6 years I have to wonder why a legendary type errata is a bridge too far.
>>98539825Honestly I'd say it's not even worth the bother for the 0.001% of players that want to run them but can't convince their group that these super mediocre cards from RTR are okay. But at the same time they did the type errata of "Book" with 0 cards that care about it.
>>98539401you must have been watching Citanul Chronicler (best MTG U-tuber) because I just saw this card on there yesterday when he was comparing all the OG legends with updated onesif so, very based. >>98538374this has been debunked >>98536050they used to be capable of great lore. urza & Mishra's stuff was interesting. weatherlight saga was pretty dope I thought. Garth One Eye from the 1994 book Arena was sweet but took them like 20 years to make him a card. the OG planeswalkers in the 2000s with Jace, Ajani, Lillian and all that were not bad either until they fucked everything up in the last 10 years, kept retconning everything and then the nail in the coffin making half them lesbians and gay and/or retarded in some way. and having phyrexia beat mirrodin was stupid and closed the door on good shit (phyrexia is just an evil cancer that could have spread elsewhere)
>>98539789So called free thinking 3 color players will say 4 color has no identity and then sleeve up their Y'shtola goodstuff pile
>>98539739Is the nephlim commander even going to be worth a shit when there are so few of them and if any of them get removed your kinda fucked?Beyond the deck just being a secret clone deck
>>98539881He could be cool at the helm of a changeling deck.
>>98539881>Dune brood with this on it.You only need one Nephlim and he tutors for it.
Feel like building a partner commander. These two should be pretty solid and not too degen, right? I just enjoy the idea of him sending his dog to play fetch and it comes back with like someone else's robot, a zombie, and a sword
>Reality Fracture: GoatseeUB>Artifact>FlashIf a triggered ability of a permanent would cause a player to create a treasure, that player puts a stun counter on each tapped land that player controls instead.If a triggered ability of a permanent would cause a player to one or more cards, that player exiles that many cards from the top of their library instead.>Jace's reality fractured gave new meaning to tearing open a new asshole
>>98539911this commander just gets hated out so hard
>>98539723even the 2 color names are pretty retarded. how hard is it say 'white black'. no its gotta be some random Russian nameGolgari? are you sure you don't mean Glen Garry Glenross? Izzet? you mean izzy got that IZZAT gyatt dayum GOT EEEEMM!!selesnya- another random Russian broad's name, simic just makes me think of Momir Basic on Modo. dimir stupid spider logo when there is like no tribal blue black spider stuff and it sounds DIMINUTIVE when blue black is like the strongest 2 color combo the 4 color names are a whole other level of gayness >>98539678pic related, if you get him out t2 or 3 (with gemstone caverns, mox diamond, seething song, etc etc nobody can play shit. you have to slow the deck way down and turn it into some dumb aristocrats bullshit but its still at its core STAX>>98539749who tf are you calling Dune Coon, bruh? wtf>>98539789I just want to play red blue black ("grixis" another game ass name that already had a better name: Nightscape) + green so I didn't have to play as mana broken cards in a casual deck. PIC ALSO RELATEDglint eye? more like shootin' this goo in your eye biatch
>>98539670Nigga the commander is BLUE where do you think we are
>>98539933>blue black is like the strongest 2 color combolol no.It's the color combination of asshole spike players, the kind who say things like "I'd always win if you guys didn't gang up on me" without appreciating why everyone enjoys ganging up on them so much.
>>98539959historically it's blue black, with modern design giving all the power to blue red, so really the strongest is UBR
>>98539959>tfw love rogues and ninjas>and also sea monsters>forced to play Dimir and everyone sees me as an assholegive me ninjas rogues and assassins and serpents krakens and leviathans in different colors aiiieeee
>>98539678winota
>>98539933I fucking love reanimating Sexymundar turn 2. He does a lot of work but people don't feel he is as opressive or threatening as a Praetor so he kind of just gets a pass. I should have cut him for Archon of Cruelty years ago though.
>>98539678how do you even make Kinnan bad? no dorks, no mana rocks no ramp?
>>98539959>Color combo always wins if you don't gang up on itSounds like the strongest color combo to me if it takes 3 players to stop 1.
>>98539876>having phyrexia beat mirrodin was stupid and closed the door on good shitI agree with it meaning we get less cool stuff, but is a thematic inevitability that phyrexia and mirrodin would interact. It's urza's (creation's creation's) and yawgy's creations continuing their fued epocsh after they're gone.
>>98539987Ramp like cultivate and etc is fine. Harder ramp is a no go, and yeah, nothing that produces mana other than lands.
>>98538524very cool. for more card draw in green, theres beast whisperer. or SHIIIIIIIIEEET youre in blue just go Mystic Remora. theres also the green card that at the beginning of your upkeep if you have a creature with the highest power to draw another card. also don't forget that Magus Sister's you have to randomly choose between the 3 different lore chapters. the card seems so good but not possibly getting to do all the chapters makes it kind of suck and why I took it out of a deck. if you also want some more FF flavor, Sazh Katzroy & Sazh's chocobo are good. throw in a ponder & preordain for draw as well. and I'd really recommend a couple splashable counters like Swan Song (relatively expensive though), An Offer you can't refuse (has good Rikku art), NEGATE and Defabricate (any artifact, enchantment or triggered or activated ability. that means you can counter a planeswalker ultimate)you also need more green ramp I'd at minimum add Nature's lore, farseek, rampant growth & cultivate. if you dont care about more expensive and/or older cards rhystic study and sylvan library are no brainers.
>>98539969which is also why they never make good UBR commanders. Sauron is pretty good but just doesn't do it for me. and Thraximundar (from 2009!!!!) really has to have whats now called "bracket 4" to actually get on the board in a reasonable time and keep him there (with force of will type stuff)its like they actively know blue black red is the best and don't design anything at the possibly (and its no surprise with the current crop of "talent")
>>98539992New Phyrexia is fucking gay. I hope Jace at least shifts his alternate timeline Mirrodin Pure into the real multiverse before he gets defeated by the power of friendship.
>>98539707just play it 4c you big baby
>>98540071And pay the cost of all the hiked up fagbois? No thank you.
>>98540071cool boros changelings commander
newfag herecan I have some suggestions for fun, cheap decks to try? I started with the merfolk precon and I like it. Not necessarily because of tribal, or its colors, but because it's always doing something, even if it's just twiddling dicealso I prefer one or two color decks for aesthetic reasonsmight try Belladonna Took, seems good with cheap 1/1 spawners, plus boobathx
LMAO they finally did it. They created the first and last actually based Planeswalker card. It's a goddamn miracle.
>>98540004Thanks for the advice but that's just the pod chain for the list that I'm waffling over. Most of the actual deck is spoken for.Though I realized after taking the photo I've lost my fucking Summon: Fenrir so I'll have to pay a buck just to get one mail-ordered for next week.
>>98539969Historically it's always been different between the various formats, and in EDH it's always been more of a question of what commanders were the most broken rather than what two colors had the strongest cards.Blue is far and away the favored color in eternal formats where cards like Force of Will are practically a necessity, and several of the most broken cards ever printed were Blue, but in the standard rotation it really was quite topsy turvy. Just looking at the championship winning decks gives us 5-color, 5-color, Mono-red, Mono-Blue, RB, An infamous UB psychatog deck that scarred people for years to come, GWU, GW, and so on, quite a wide variety, and deliberately so. Mostly what determined the strength of a deck was just what the most broken cards were at any given time, and those rotated between the colors almost with every set. Looking at the strongest decks in EDH, blue is definitely favored, but Black is not. Black does bring a lot to the table, especially since Thassa's Oracle + Demonic Consultation/Tainted Pact is the high standard for how good a combo should be, but the importance of White is probably far more significant, because it's what lets you play proper solitaire with cards like Grand Abolisher or Voice of Victory, and Red provides plenty of win conditions/combo pieces. Decks like Vivi and Ral, Monsoon Mage make me think that in CEDH, UR might actually be the strongest two-color combination, though completely busted ass cards like Kinnan throw that off a bit.
>>98540141Sorry chud, goatse Jace is here to rotate your format.
>>98540141I dont care that hes not good, bolt on +2 is so fundamentally ZASED i want to build him
>>98540155UR is more robust than UB in cedh yes but UBR is the most successful tricolor combination with two representatives, rogsi and tymna kraum (basically UBR with white)
>>98540155monoblack wouldn't be a meme and would be used a lot more in cedh once it finally gets thoughtseizes that make your opponents reveal their shit and you pick one for each, a 3-for-1 bonanza
>>98540218>once it finally gets thoughtseizes that make your opponents reveal their shit and you pick one for each, a 3-for-1Give this autistic obsession of yours a rest you schizo.
>>98540183Okay, I +2 Arzakon. And I'll do it again and again until Jace is banished to the Shadow Realm.
>>98540260>black getting a 3-for-1? and have a mana advantage on top of that? cool>black looking at my hand? aaaaaiiiiiiieeeeeeeereminder that black is meant to mindrape you and it will happen down the line, wotc coffers demand it
>>98540218At the highest levels of competitive magic, if you are at all concerned what's in your opponent's hands, you've basically already lost. It's kind of like competitive Rock-Paper-Scissors. Since the ultimate strategy is just to be as unpredictable as possible, which essentially means to be as close to truly random as you can feasibly approach, hardcore competitors don't even decide for themselves what they throw anymore and instead just follow a sequence of randomized throws on a computer printout, and let pure chance decide who wins. CEDH is similar. You build the deck according to the strategy, and after that it's just autopilot, with whether you win or lose just a question of who got luckiest at the table.
>>98540298funny how you posted telepathy when that and urza's glasses actually do see some play from time to time, proving that at a baseline it's worth looking at other people's handsnow whether that's worth a card is the question: unfortunately discard has a drawback where you're spending 1 mana to remove threats that opponents haven't even committed resources to so discard fundamentally sets you back; a lot more power has to be injected to make it viable in a multiplayer settingand interaction is actually useful that's why rog ishai works, even though it's rhystic + copy enchantment that's doing all the heavy lifting in that deck
>>98540271Jace is at 4 loyalty so congrats I guess? Anyway I drew Pithing Needle so I'll name Arzakon with it.
>>98540218>3-for-1gotta pump those numbers up champ
>Giada and "bracket 3 Kinnan" in a game>I'm playing mothman>4th player is playing that dumb cat WB phyrexian tribal>He sol rings and plays phyrexian revoker turn 1>Names mothman.>Tell him Mothman doesn't have an activated ability. >Tells me he doesn't care and still names mothman
>>98540369Shatter. I +2 Arzakon. Begone, Jace.
>>98540404this never happened.
>>98540324>funny how you posted telepathy when that and urza's glasses actually do see some play from time to time, proving that at a baseline it's worth looking at other people's handsI don't think it's that important in CEDH, especially when people are winning turns 2-3 and if they're not winning on that turn you probably can guess they didn't have what they needed anyway and you were better off having a card that could make yourself win instead. Telepathy is a great card in more casual play, and a painful nemesis to my preferred style where bluffing is 80%+ of my strategy and theatrical moves are the remaining 20%. It is, however, a card that has inverted strength: The better you are at the game, the less useful it is to you, and the higher the tier of play the less useful it is. Either you can guess what's in your opponent's hand anyway or your deck is good enough that you don't care because if you have to play around your opponents that means your deck is going to be too slow. It's a control card, and control is too slow in the world of optimized combos. As a side note, even in casual play Telepathy does have a huge drawback, in that you give the entire table a whole lot of information, so they can optimize their answers for each other while you remain a black box, so if there's any extra answers they are reserved to deal with pretty much anything you throw down. You basically go a card down to give everyone else information and make yourself a target, and most games I've seen where someone dropped a Telepathy it worked against them.It's a fine card for Commanders that like to play guessing games and benefit from already knowing the answer, but even for just one mana most decks are not going to want to run it.
https://moxfield.com/decks/GwBQ3IoclkWbvEuHDRLQagthis is certainly not THE build for this but I had fun throwing clues in the trash for damage
>>98539825Neat, it's Magical Hats.
>>98540409Spell Pierce (I drew into it off Jace trigger)
>>98540450>I don't think it's that important in CEDHIt is literally one of the main ways Tivit is able to actually win games.
>>98540298>At the highest levels of competitive magic, if you are at all concerned what's in your opponent's hands, you've basically already lost.Why even post if it's this obvious you don't play the game?
>>98540611The main draw of git probe is that it's free. Peek never made a big splash because it's not worth one blue mana, but once an effect is free and can also go in literally any deck the calculus changes of course.
>>98540611>posts a 0-mana instant speed deck-thinnerLooking at the player's hand was a cherry on top, not the point of running that card.
>>98540640>>98540611I run both theses cards in every deck I can in place of 2 basic lands because it is not actually a lose of opportunity cost unless there is the very very rare instance of someone playing draw hate.
>>98540640>Sees no play while Git Probe got bannedHmm surely there's maybe a small difference there...
>>98540592Red Elemental Blast. I +2 Arzakon.
>>98540660Mental Misstep (I drew it off Jace)
>>98540658The difference is Storm and Prowess.
>>98540658street wraith used to see a ton of play though. I forgot what actually killed the deck it was played in.
>>98540668Again why say shit when you clearly don't play the game?
>>98540640Street wraith was and is nowhere near as ubiquitous as gitaxian probe.
>>98540668
>>98540665No you didn't fuck off already
>>98540688I accept your concession.
>>98540690You're a piece of shit and I jate your guts die in a fire a big fat fire you dumb bitch suck failure freak
>Wondering if I should keep my commander as Grub, because she's "dynamic" with constantly flipping and doubling shit and having a good time>Or just make a great goblin combo deck what will probably preform much better.
>>98540682Perhaps because Gitaxian probe is Street Wraith plus Benefits. But, Street Wraith saw considerable amounts of play even when it was powercrept by almost-objectively better cards, and in fact saw an increase in play because it helped increase the deck-thinning effect of those cards. In EDH, deck-thinning is not as useful because thinning 99 cards down to 98 is not as big a percentage as using four copies to drop 60 cards to 56, or insane stuff like using multiple x4 thinners to drop it to 52 or 48, but free spells on the other hand are a big deal, particularly when they only cost 2 life in a format that starts with 40.
>>98540724Hmm I wonder what that benefit might be...
>>98540724>mishra's bauble>street wraith>THOUGHT SCOURman i miss grixis death's shadowhopefully nostalgia really kicks off like how it did for premodern and prefire modern becomes a thing in 2030+
>>98540737What happened to it? What power creeped it?
>>98540728Powering Storm, Prowess, and other Instants-matter cards. The looking at the hand thing is also useful, but there's a good reason people are not racing to put Peeks in their decks.
>>98540743Fatal Push
>>98540753>Storm and prowess
>>98540754DS was strong even after push since they had recursion. It got crunched out by MH2 rotating the format.
>>98540754grixis death's shadow used push themselves, and their other threat is immune to it>>98540743>what powercreeped itFIRE design, same reason tarmogoyf isn't used anymore
>>98540761>and other Instants-matter cards
How can i make my Sheoldred deck run better? https://moxfield.com/decks/vQPa9AUQ6EC5Z3ZtKeW_QgIt's like okay but not quite good enough to play through the hate it naturally draws, i usually have to rely on heavy politics with it.Not really sure what to change to make it actually function efficiently.
>>98540773>and other Instants-matter cards
>>98540774>How can i make my Sheoldred deck run better?you run best girl
>>98540774God, Sheoldred is some absolutely A+ design.Her and Elesh Norn are absolutely fantastic. Urabrask is also a solid A.I almost want to give Sheoldred an A++ because her real body being this tiny little worm parasite is so fucking cool, but I think I'll leave it at just A+ because thematically none of her cards really translates that into any sort of appropriate mechanic.
>>98535726What's a good commander for casting ultimatums? or fat inefficient spells in general
>>98540814You could play ramos or that gay book from strixhaven.
>>98540830>>98540814
>>98540814Omnath, Locus of All is also a good way to draw cards/make mana and lets you run fat ultimatums in all colors.
>>98540779>jjtrek was awful>still vastly superior to kurtztrek
>>98540773>>98540778Glad we banned Manamorphose to stop these bullshit cards from becoming dominant.
why DOESN'T every deck that can run manamorphose run it?
>>98540640I think Street Wraiths is probably underrated in casual edh, not because 2 life -> thin 1 card is such an amazing bargain, but because it synergizes with so many well-supported themes. If you have one draw trigger, discard trigger, or cycle trigger, it becomes a potential 0 mana combo piece. and if you do any graveyard shenans at all, like delve, I think it almost becomes autoinclude. Its mv makes it amazing for collecting evidence, I'm working on an Izoni Center of the Web deck where it's obviously amazing but also Analyze the Pollen and Extract a Confession both love this card.>>98540653the unspoken downside / opportunity cost of all of the bauble / git probe / 0 mana cantrip effects is that they fuck up your mulligan. a git probe or street wraith in your opener is essentially a facedown card, so it messes with your ability to tell if your hand is playable
>>98541074- it's not that cheap (in terms of $) - it messes with your mulligan- gruul doesn't usually have spells matter themes- it's kind of boring-commander players have psychosis and are usually trying to fit more spells into their deck instead of less
I kinda like UB because the godawful reprints are always cheaper than the original versions.
>>98540183DAYUM goatse Jace is actually a great mid power COMMANDER viable planeswalker. I like it. >>98540202ok but who the fuck cares what cedh retards think? they aren't playing commander they're just too broke (or young) to actually go play blackjack at a casino which is what cedh is. >>98540218>pic relthere are a million cards that make each opponent discard a card. a card that let you choose one from each player would be wildly broken if it cost less than like 5 or 6 mana. what the fuck is wrong with you >>98540369well in that case I'll play Garth, and along side Fervor & Displacer Kitten I'll just have 900 Black Lotusi. how ya like dem apples?? (I'll also make a disenchant to get rid of that pesky pither)>>98540737I have this in an Indo Rex deck where I use Varolz the Scar-Striped to give Indo Rex 13 +1/+1 counters (on top of having hex proof, indestructible, haste, flying, temple and vigilance)
I'm in love with a hobbitDon't you try to stop it
>>98541074because the only deck I have with those colors is 5c and this is WILDLY better than that shitter spell
>>98537861sex
https://moxfield.com/decks/ZvmGAgF9CUuRm9LP3QQkqAThoughts on this vibe?
>>98541381why do you have so many 7 drops
>>98541394the dream is to play 7 drops on curve
NUEVO>>98541489NEW>>98541489
>>98540809God imagine her slithering down your urethra and piloting you
>>98540282Kill yourself
