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How many people here play with Legends units? I know this board favours casual over competitive play so I would assume it's more than the zero that competitive players use. Just curious cuz I've been looking through Legends units to see how they fit into the 11th meta.
>>98537255I've been trying to play my spartan for months and I can never do it. Legends is where units go to die.
>>98537255some people at my lgs refuse to play against others with legends units even in casual games. its actually pathetic
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98537273shouldnt you be in bed ratfag?
>>98537248>TQStretching the definition of "obscure", but I like the Legion of the Damned>Spooky ghost boysThe Stormboyz in Orks are also good>Rebel against their anarchic parent culture by forming strict hierarchies and dressing neatly
>Gunwagon is seperate datasheet, hits on a 4, re-roll 1, more rapid-fire optionsGood or nah?
>>98537278do you have a link to both of the wagon datasheets by chance?
>>98537255marines already have enough datasheets before resorting to legends, and the old models all look like shit compared to current gen stuff. so there's no reason to enable legends on the list-builder app.
this edition is looking very silly isnt it ork bros. id be happy to see the end of the green tide spam desu
>>98537248>TQKabal of the Last HatredArchon Thyndrak has made appearances in a couple stories but it's never very much and she's not very well utilized.Duke Sliscus and the Sky Serpents get honorable mention though because they are great in the Lukas the Trickster novel.
>>98537286>and the old models all look like shituh oh
>>98537274Nah, not yet.
>>98537255>Legends UnitsI still use Grotesques and Urien Rakarth any time I am allowed to and occasionally break out the Tantalus for funsies.
>>98537294too busy painting word bearers no doubt
>>98537264>>98537268That's sad. I let my opponents use Legends, I don't even care if they want to proxy units before they buy them because it just adds more variety to the game.>>98537286Weak bait m8
>>98537301why did they legends those units in DE anyway? They're not such an old kit.
>>98537255I used Legends to run some of the HH units and FW daemon engines for my CSM because I bought the models.
I like orks :D>>98537289the rules are looking pretty grim from an outsiders perspective, but the models are neat, so I’m happy :D
>>98537248ynnari, I heard GW made a big fuss about them at the beginning of 8th then quickly forgot about them. I heard they were looking for a sword or something and the leader is some fetish elf with her own personal simp?
>>98537301Do you have any explanation for why they got legend'd?
>>98537255Personally I prefer to just use those models as the closest current equivalent in the codex, usually doesn't take much imagination if any
>>98537315See this is how I feel about it. If somebody already spent money on the models I'm fine with them using those units. Personally I have not updated any of my armies since the end of 7th because my group were super pissed at GW for the Primaris bullshit. I have not given GW money for anything in years.
>>98537302Yeah nah, word bearers have taken a back seat while I work on my tau, but I haven't done much since what I posted yesterday night.
>>98537255I don't have any legends models due to being a new army but I bully my friends to field stuff like Librarian Dreadnought or old Death Company Dreadnoughts.
>>98537248>Thread QuestionI really like Ultramarines.
the battlesuit horde grows...,,,,
>>98537362why not paint them Anon?
>>98537255I know a marine player who uses a Sicaran tank from HH in his 40k army. It's a sweet looking model so I don't blame him.
>>98537248>TQChemdogs.
>>98537365because i'm focused on printing them for now and assembling some, but will be doing that soon!
>TQImperial Agents
>TQSquat Pirates
>>98537322>>98537312There are lots of reasons. They're both finecast resin models and GW stopped selling DEldar resin more than 5 years ago. It created a situation throughout 9th and 10th that the only effective way to play DEldar was to go hunt down Mandrakes, Court, and Beast Packs on the secondary market or proxy them. I think there was orders from on high to not include any units in the codex that they don't currently sell models for and so all the resin stuff got the final axe at once (except the Tantalus that randomly got removed 8 months earlier for some reason with the Eldar codex). If they had plastic models ready to go to replace the resin units, they probably would have stayed. But they didn't. So the range is now another 4 units smaller, as has been the trend for many years. Urien, Grotesques, and Beastpack hurt the most because those have been around since the launch of the faction in 3rd. I'm sure some of them will come back eventually.
>>98537255I do not make any distinction. I still work on Legend units and so does my brother. We will use custom ones too if need be
>>98537255I used too but GW in their infinite wisdom decided EC don’t get access to the Heresy Legends document after we got our codex so I no longer play EC or use legends.
>>98537289>>98537319It'll be interesting for sure. While I do mourn the loss of lootas and my favorite buggy, the scrapjet, I'm excited for what we've seen from the leaks as far as datasheets and codexes. The detachments look very fun considering they're all 1dp, so I've been thinking of fun combos which I wasn't able to do all of 10th.Generic melee infantry>Green tide, brute bosses, bully BoyzMekboyz showin' off their new toyz>Shoota Boyz, madcap meks, dread mobSupa fast buggies n' wagons/trukks>Wreckaz, blitz brigade, kult of speedSpeed freeks with aerial support >Kult of speed, flyboyz, madcap meksTellyportin' 'ardboyz>Wurrband, green tide, brute bossesThere's shitloads of combos to think of here, giving me so many more reasons to go out and play the game with different lists. I'm not thinking about what we've lost, I'm having fun considering all the options we've gained. If every army gets detachments in this style then we're looking at an extremely fun edition full of variety.
>>98537278You saw the new zzap gun profile, right? Ultimately it'll depend on points but just looking at stats the thing is starting from an obscene position.
So now with the addition of cleave 2 the custom choppa and big choppa on Warboss and squad leader Nob aren't instamogged by Power Klaw anymore?
i want one of my exalted sorcerers to ride on the back of my MVB as a mount to act as the warlord but I'm too scared of coming off as cringe and saying "this model has the mvb and sorcerer datasheets"
>>98537255If someone asked me, I would 100% of the time say yes. But it's been pretty rare that someone asks, most people just play normally. I'd say people use legends in....10% of my games.I don't really use them either. I'm sure if I did want to, most people would say sure. The average person doesn't really care, and GW makes most Legends units kind of mediocre anyway so it's not like you use Legends for advantage, and most people know that. That said, there are a few that are good, but generally.The idea that you hear around here often that most people are tourneyfags is just not true. Vastly more than half of the people I've met are not, and I've been to several lgs over the years including some big ones. Hell, even when I've gone to actual tourneys which theoretically should be all tourneyfags, most people are fine. I can count the number of actually bad experiences on one hand, and it's far outweighed by friendly people. And even then, the bad experiences were mostly purely attitude like socially, not the game itself. Yes, I've played against skew lists, and I've played against the guy who cheats an extra inch every movement by measuring from front to back rather than front to front, but these people are such a small minority.Anyway I'm off topic. Yes buy Legends stuff and paint them up, in my long years of experience most random people don't care, and your friends certainly won't. A tournament will actually officially say whether they allow Legends or not, the number that allow them is not zero, especially if you ask the TO.
>>98537451MVB?
>>98537455the one (1) tzeentch monster that exists in gamethe kit came with a bunch of daggers for the alt build which I found nice for kitbashing purposes
>>98537447Not on the Warboss, no, and on him the Klaw is a solid option depending on what you want out of the boss, his charge bonus helping push that into comfortable big monster and vehicle threat territory. On Boss Nobs I'd say the shoe is on the other foot, there is not much reason for a Klaw against a Big Choppa, though if you're uncertain you could run one of each since max size mobs get two Nobs now.
>>9853725550% of one of my armies is legends technically
The Horus heresy card game is shutting down next month
>>98537447I'd say they've done a solid job on making big choppas and power klaws pretty even choices. If you want to go against infantry, the Choppa does that job better than the klaw. If youre against vehicles, the klaw does that job better than the Choppa.
>>98537470warpforge was so much better but they shut that one down first and told everyone to play the horus heresy one instead. that was clearly a mistake.tacticus is not very fun, I uninstalled it.At least warpforge had voice acting and cool art and stuff. it was by far my favorite of the games workshop phone games.oh well.
>>98537468Why is it that so many warhammer 40k “funny fanarts” are just sex/horny jokes where the “extra layer” is just it being warhammer 40k instead of something else to make the joke actually funny?Is this just in the warhammer 40k social media sphere or is it more widespread?
>>98537470I'm sure all 20 players are devastated by the news
Morning
>>98537470Good.Now I have to give money to fatshart’s warhammer 40k darktide to stall it’s shutdown. And then the inquisitor turns out to be a plot twist nurgle cultist and the moebian domain dies and then GW releases official traitor guard plastics with moebian 6th looking models or upgrade kit to make darktide fans feel bad that the game is gone.My furniture shopping list will help the Swedish economy more as James takes a cut of darktide’s money.By the way how likely will the abominable intelligences of chatgpt or Gemini give good instructions to help me accurately replicate the filter on this 40k moebian 6th image in any image editing software? I dig it and might use it for diorama images.
Shan't be playing against new codex armies until my army gets theirs, simple as.GW has gone completely insane with these codex changes.
>>98537494What, you don't like your guys getting bullied by a new codex?
>>98537471What if they just make klaws stronger and cost an extra 5 points, like some sort of price for wargear that could be used to balance items against each other?
>>98537494My local Ork players have assured me every weapon having lethal hits, cleave, blast, and sustained is perfectly reasonable.
>>98537465Nice traitor guard you got there.
>>98537501I've been playing Orks since 4th. This is the first time since the start of 5th that Orks have been at the top of the pile and it probably won't last long.
>>98537500Sorry it's much better to price squads as if they have the most upgrades and highest costed equipment, that way you'll get to have the squad you truly want.
Wait so with the "Forge World" resin kits integrated into GW's website, does that mean there's never going to be a resin superheavy or FW type unit ever again?
>>98537494>>98537501Imagine not wanting to fight against le quirky chungus mushroom men race because you want your OP rules firstcouldn't be me!
out here saving the galaxy fr
>>98537501don't worry, +5 points on a 20man unit of boyz will balance it all out.just wait to be shit on before complaining.
>>98537512No, Forgeworld as an independent entity died with Alan Bligh 8 years ago. He was the genius behind it and there's no one to pick up the torch so they folded Forgeworld into their specialist games department.
>>9853749411th's powercreep is looking to be significantly worse than 9th's and that is a harrowing bar to pass
>>98537509>>98537513I don't want "my OP rules first", I want GW to shit or get off the pot. If you want to make a completely new power level to the game, that's fine, then release every codex at the same time. Not this drip-feed of gonzo broken shit to make games a foregone conclusion if your army happens to be late to the update party.
>oddsplay The Dark Mod>evensfinish painting Ridgerunner
>>98537529how else are they going to FOMO the pointless waste of paper that is a modern codex while 90% of the rules are digital?
>>98537521>blue and goldThis is clearly a THOUSAND SONS HERETIC
>>98537526????? think you mean Tony Cottrell secondary
>>98537465I can’t see much because bad phone but are those vraks recasts or printed models?Anybody those wga damned stls before they got taken down when the plastic was announced for kickstarting via gamefound?I want to make heavy weapons teams but they hold the heavy weapons like that gaunt’s ghosts autocannon guy. The mortars can stay. Maybe.
>>98537529There is nothing better in this hobby than to wait over a year for a codex.
>>98537535People already buy the codex for their own army, you can't FOMO someone into doing what they already were doing.Logistical complaints I can understand, quarterly earnings I can understand, but then release the rules with a code you can just buy online to unlock in the app, like some sort of company operating in the 21st century, and sell the physicals to people like me who want to add it to their collection.
I fucking hate having to track whether this primary or that secondary activates on my first turn, second turn, third turn, at the start of my turn, their turn, the other games' turn, his turn on the xbox, when I get a chill, when I go to the toilet or when I know I am about to lose the game.
>>98537512I’m still after high quality scans or pdfs of all the forgeworld books. Did warhammer plus have them? Can some patrician please share the files to a poor pleb like me?>>98537543Nta but who is tony? I feel like I should have known before seeing your post now.
>>98537560If your game doesn't take 5 hours to go through 3 turns, are you truly playing Warhammer?
>>98537554Honestly they should just get rid of codex releases. Codexes are just beta drafts for army rules that get patched in a month with balance slates, turning the big expensive book you just bought into a paperweight. The only use for modern codexes is lore, and even that has been increasingly stagnant and boring. Or just streamlined and cut out to make more room for datasheets. 'member when codexes used to have sections describing every gun an army had? Now you get "Wych Close Combat Weapons" and "Astartes Close Combat Weapons" and that's fucking it. Thanks GW!
>>98537560But they freed up the mental RAM you were using to make force org charts and add up wargear costs, why don't you like shrimplified not shrimple??
>painboss can now saddle-up with squighog Boyz>Gives them -1 to wound if S is higher than T and healing abilityThat's pretty fuckin cool, painboss might actually be useful again.
>>98537570Yeah they don't even have a lot of the cool features that older codices had. I like it when rules are released outdated and require multiple erratas just to make sense of things.
>>98537534you're gaming right now arent you gsc bro
Post the codex you’ll cowards
wheres everyone getting these codex leaks from?
>>98537581From Matt Ward's sweaty anus, get ye gone, GW snooper
>>98537581>>98537578https://drive.google.com/file/d/12haDzQ9rIRVop0_I1WufUJ9UK0jW0Aps/view?usp=drivesdk
>>98537581I used to know some guys who worked for GW, they are given the opportunity to leak it to build hype. GW wants it stuff leaked.
It is true that they don't need to do everything at once. They could do a bevy of detachments for every faction, then they could a character for every faction, then they could do one psyker for every faction as they roll out the new psyker system (or anti-psyker if that's more lore appropriate for certain factions), then everyone gets a new tank/monster, etc etc. Then the actual codex releases are a bunch of art and lore pages with like just a handful of new units and rules and characters instead of everything at once.There is no reason to hold everyone back and one person every few months gets everything at once. It's bad for everyone, because then some people get the shit kicked out of them for potentially years if they're last, while the people who were first eventually get powercrept again. It's literally bad for everyone. It's the worst possible way to do it.
>>98537526>independent entityWasn’t it more of a department? I’m not really keen on business stuff like subsidiaries.Still forgeworld probably was doing things even after gw ordered them not to because the forgeworld guys thought their decision was best and that may be why a lot of forgeworld stuff isn’t getting plastic rereleases. The Horus heresy being an exception because marines make massive money for gw and firstborn marine and rogue trader nostalgia for money too.The dkok may have been the exception due to popularity. Maybe testing “how much secondary popularity translates to actual sales” from that kill team test run.Clearly it passed as plastic Krieg army got released, but I wonder how big the office fight was over it because I think a lot of forgeworld stuff getting shafted to be forgotten is from spite. Macharius tanks could have come back but instead we got the dorn tank being a good example. Krieg centaur replaced by current centaur etc.Best example I can think of is how a lot of fallout lore shits on new Vegas for being good and by proxy shits on the old fallout stuff. But this is for games workshop against forgeworld stuff.
>>98537593Some people wait a long time for their codex only to be the worst faction of the entire edition. Some get them early only to end up as the worst faction of the whole edition. This whole thing as of late just fucking sucks.
>>98537577yes. I should at least go out and spray the equipment that you attack on Atalan Jackals' bikes, like the leather pouches, bombs and whatnot.
>>98537477Because most fans of 40k are horny nerds the way fans of most scifi/fantasy titles have been since the dawn of time. The real question is why haven't they leaned more into romantic smut type novels if they want women to feel more welcome in the hobby?
>>98537600It's always been like that. Before GW took online marketing seriously they would keep codex and model range refreshes secret until the last minute so it wouldn't affect people's purchasing if they knew that in 2 or 3 months they're be getting a new book and models.
>>98537600Who had it worse last edition? Tyranids or Drukhari? Or were you referring to like Admech and Black Templar or something? I think all of them had highpoints at different times
>>98537501The vast majority of it is AP 1 hitting on 5s or is only lethal hits against non-monsters/vehicles tho... so who gives a shit?
>>98537613GW has been sex negative since the 00s. Going out of their way to make non sexy female models, getting rid of the breasts on demonstrates, etc. anything that would make a mother say "I don't want my 12 playing this game".
>>98537613Sorry bro, all you get are Mike Brooks melodramas about a demifluid three-penised deldar woman's forbidden love with a nonbinary crippled exodite with a piss fetish.
>>98537625Ad mech had it fucking brutal which is why I bowed out, and this comes after 9th which was a straight-up nightmare.>>98537622It sucks, they design bundles and battleboxes like that too: crammed full of units you don't want so that you end up buying more, or you get the new model plus a bunch of junk.
>>985374779 times out of 10 its female artists (who don't own models)
>>98537613You bring up an excellent point.Admittedly fanart where the punchline is always related to sex has gotten annoying for me from how common it is.Like horse cartoon redrawings of any fictional character back in ye old days.I think warhammer 40k is heading down that path if it isn’t there already.>incoming media literacy reddit shitFlash gitz’ black Templar animations may have been partially poking fun at how warhammer 40k fans insert themselves into every unrelated fictional ip too.I looked at the Star Wars solo mimban scenes and checked the comments and found 40k mentioning comics. It’s pretty nuts.
>>98537596NTA but all I know for sure is that Forgeworld was the last bastion producing quality 40k content, which leads me to believe it was the hobbyist clubhouse tucked away deep in GW's boiler room where all the people who actually loved making wargames went to hide from the business suits trying to make their lives a living hell.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
i really hate the new terrain footprint cutouts. they look so gamey, they're no better than those obnoxious scoring circles
>>98537477sex is basically the only thing that drives engagement in fan arts
>>98537613>The real question is why haven't they leaned more into romantic smut type novels if they want women to feel more welcome in the hobby?Because they just do performative sex negative feminism because thats what corporations do.
For the collage, curb stomp or banner stuck up the ass?
>>98537561>Nta but who is tony?Ex-head of FW, unpersoned after a campaign from the website goonhammer (now tabletopbattles) in the summer of 2020.
>>98537635Maybe. But warhammer 40k is majority dominated by males so women genuinely into warhammer be a tiny minority. Oddly enough your “don’t own models” part of the post made me ponder a bit.How does one tell if a newcomer is genuine or a trend chaser?And would you prefer a newcomer who is honest about it than a fakegrog?We seem to hate both.
>>98537653Can I get more details on this with sources please?Seems the unperson campaign was pretty good as I never heard of him.
>>98537656Someone is a faggot if he's got a faggot's opinion.The posturing is completely irrelevant for the judgement.
>>98537526>Forgeworld as an independent entity diedBased retard. It was barely a sub-department and even that was not strict and rigid. Forgeworld had a separate online store and that was the extent of it. >Inb4 n-not true!Go and check how Forgeworld profits have been accounted for financial reports.
>>98537656Not that anon but I don't really like or care for people that don't engage or care in the hobby yet they're opinionated to the point where they have to drag it in whatever direction. Then again, that sort of thing is just what goes on in current era.
>>98537642cute.
>>98537632Meanwhile on the classic side I talked my gf into speed reading through Malus Darkblade because I told her there was an orgy scene and a love triangle in book 2. Unfortunate Abnett was either made to or arbitrarily decided to reign in the horny after that book series, because there's just nothing else I can think of he wrote on the 40k side that has similar sex appeal to get her to read.
>>98537647And money. Don't forget money. If you're a porn artist people are lining up to throw money at you, but someone who doesn't even draw a little bit of cheesecake is losing out. (And even then, it's the OF situation where the big names are making $10,000+ a month and all the smaller dick drawers make a hundred if they're lucky)
>>98537669>moneysynonymous with engagement nowadays, really
>>98537662The Forge World logo is on the back of the new Necro books which is neat.
>>98537668Can you drop the saucy moist details please of those parts please?I vaguely recall that warhammer crime/horror novels dealt with more mature aspects of 40k/aos.One anon (so it might be a lie) said that a novel addressed the meme of imperium being intolerable regime but homos are respected by saying the people don’t but reaffirming the imperium governors don’t care so by extent the old “all are cannon fodder” Reddit guard meme got canonized if what anon said is true. So it might be a lie I’m repeating.
>>98537653Sounds on brand for them. They even have an Ask a Tranny advice column and cover gatcha games now. I can see them being weak followers of online "causes">Lore?
>>98537647I hate how right you are. When it comes to warhammer fanart and fanart in general.But I want to draw and get followings from good fanart (if I get there) and maybe a woman with a pretty face instead of cheesecake.
>>98537662>It was barely a sub-department and even that was not strict and rigid. Forgeworld had a separate online store and that was the extent of it.This is only true in the last decade or so, secondary. They were in a portacabin at the back of Lenton, sharing with Warhammer Historical, for years.It was basically another "company" within GW Group plc, like how Citadel Miniatures, Marauder Miniatures and a couple others we won't go into operated.
>>98537656>But warhammer 40k is majority dominated by males so women genuinely into warhammer be a tiny minority.Most women don't want to paint armies or play overcomplicated games- they want to read/watch fantasy porn & then discuss it. They might do the OCCASIONAL single model painting, but that's pretty much it.
>>98537677How bad is goonhammer really and is there documentation? I sometimes get spikeybits clickbait results when I search hobby stuff.I don’t know why I thought of dakkadakka, warseer and bolterandchainsword. How are those places? What’s the reason(s) to avoid them?
>>98537647I think it's not that as much as the fact that people draw what they like. A lot of artists like sex. It's really that simple, that's why the vast majority of fanart for every single franchise and media property in the world is sexualized, or at least a bit cheesecakey.
>>98537653They make 21k+ on fagtreon per month... who pays for this shit?
>>98537687That guy’s face is perfect “if only you knew how bad things really are” editing.Can some do it with the tau model in pic please?I am stuck with my phone atm so I can’t.
>>98537656>Maybe. But warhammer 40k is majority dominated by males so women genuinely into warhammer be a tiny minority.Well, by the same token I would argue this kind of sex simping art is niche as well. Speaking as a male though, it can be cute and amusing and its not something you see a lot of in the real 40k. And I'm talking about like that SoB simping for a Black Templar art that kept to kayfabe
>>98537693Probably sponsors for products the site shills.Just a guess.That German guy with the mask is an exception because at least his pdf paint charts are worth buying to share and hope the stasi don’t come after your ass.Someone needs to get stahly to cover the rest of the AK paint lines as he only covered the standard line. There’s afv, figure, and air. Maybe I missed one.Paint vault supposedly covers those and the more obscure hobby paint brands like the wargame foundry paints but it doesn’t use photos of the paints.
>le heckin' Blueberries!>le heckin' sexy daemonettes waow!>le heckin' SistersI would throw all of you in a meat grinder.
>>98537708>names on base rimsultimate cringe
>>98537668WHFB and AoS have always been a lot more sex-positive than 40k for some reason. Like the AoS battletomes will straight up talk about Morathi having an orgy with shadow daemons the moment she arrived in Ulgu (which Malerion found and immediately went 'oh goddamn it mom that's disgusting!') Or the fact that Nurgle, literally, not figuratively, wants to capture and ravish Alarielle into being his slave-wife. Or the Daughters of Khaine having breeding caves underneath their arenas, and a certain degree of reproduction is mandated by Morathi herself to keep the cult's numbers high. It's not even subtext, it's just flat out there for anyone to read.
>>98537658You never heard of him before so you can't really speak to the effectiveness of the campaign.You can search it very easily and find all the info you need as goonhammer still has its demand page up calling for Tony's head. Basically some invader foreigner was present at a Forge World weekend and couldn't handle proper british banter and got ass blasted he cried about it on world star hip hop and it was close to saint george floyd's death so the grifters at goonhammer saw their chance to getn their pound of flesh.
Looks like assault disembark is only for the nauts, and pulse jet is only for wazdakka.We still haven't seen blitz brigade. Maybe that detachment dishes it out some? Seems strange to only give these rules to 1 or 2 units if they take up a whole section.
The larpers out in full force with their "oh gee whiz I was gonna buy buggies" posting. Mother fucker you had YEARS! because you didn't buy them they got squatted! Fuck you all!
>>98537708uh oh larper melty
>>98537714Long D bros...
>>98537644IMO They are better for two reasons. One is that they have a game function apart from scoring (affects LOS, hiding etc), so it feels less arbitrary. The other is that as of yet they are mostly terrain-inspired or blank, and not obnoxious influencer or team colour shit.It's a tiny step, but I think it's in the right direction.
>>98537278>Kill Rig is most expensive Ork kit by far.>Will probably be lower points than gunwagon.They couldn't even make it Psyker Level 2 or give it character so it could take Wurrband enhancements.
>>98537255I don't mind anyone using them as long as they ask beforehand, and I allow them when I organize narrative campaigns. Crucible heroes are great.
>>98537726Oh god, when Imperial Agents finally die this place is going to go nuclear. Suddenly every poster here will be a GOATed Imperial Agents player of 2 decades. Fuck I can't wait for it, I'll probably join in for shit posting fun.
>>98537724Sure love that we have such a weird activist underbelly in the hobby but that's just how the world is nowadays.
>>98537718The new Hedonties of Slaanesh hero is wearing straight up fetish heels which you couldnt get away with in 40K anymore I feel.
>>98537735Do you often take pleasure in the suffering of others anon?
>>98537676It's not terribly detailed- the most descriptive it gets basically is 'there's an entire hall of naked people fucking/murdering in every imaginable combination.' The real fun is the love triangle- Malus's brother is a fleet captain who is in a relationship with his sister who, despite her only seeing him like once a year and having a simp army, is utterly in love with and only ever fucks him. So Malus & his sister teleport to their brother's ship for the plot, & when they get to his cabin to explain shit to him they walk in on him fucking his first mate. The rest of the book is a cat fight between the sister & the first mate who both want to kill each other, the brother trying to keep them from killing each other but also trying to keep himself from getting killed, and Malus egging them all on/helping them plot against each other because he hates all of them and wanted to kill them all to begin with. Shit's pretty great.Like I said though- can't really think of a 40k book where a romantic relationship mattered that much. Closest is maybe the Bequin books but that's obviously a father/daughter thing as a result of Eisenhorn's love for Beckra, so not really the same thing.
>>98537727I can smell you from here, you have Yugioh card sleeves with drawings of little girls on them
>>98537742the neo-puritan larper swings and misses in his fury
>>98537491AI filters are reliable but you just need to machine learn it into what you want. Could take weeks but you’ll have an infinite supply of it
>>98537644>new bad old goodshut up, dipshit
>>98537588appreciate it anon
>>98537601>>98537577Alright I put those bits on a stick with poster tack and sprayed them in dark gray.
>>98537726Buggies? Squatted? What? They would never squat Nids, would they?
gonna see how viable an FDM devilfish might be with a pretty fine nozzle doing the printingi figure it will lend itself very well to sandpaper finishing
>>98537642GW dropping hints today on their socials. Christmas reveal perhaps?
there should be a stereotypically american planet somewhere in 40k, right?
>>98537762Cadia
>>98537762catachan
>>98537762Commorragh
>>98537765That's Germany>>98537769That's Canada>>98537773Finally, a correct answer
>>98537773That's Israel
>>98537726>>98537754Squatted? I don't understand Votann still have their buggies?>>98537741>can't really think of a 40k book where a romantic relationship mattered that muchiirc in the HH Legion book John Grammermans relationship with the psyker girl is basically the linchpin of the entire plot.
>>98537726That's the problem though anon- it was basically a self fulfilling prophecy that they gave them all terrible rules for 2 editions & noone bought them. The devs didn't even TRY to make them fun and playable, they just let them sit and rot like they WANTED them gone or something.
>>98537742>you have Yugioh card sleeves with drawings of little girls on themWith cocks, anon, with cocks
>buy two buggies to go with my speed freaks>paint them up>can’t wait for warbike battle line>buggies get two (2) options now neither fix our shooting anti tank problems>the whole dex doesn’t really >bro just hit on 5’s with your S8 rockets it’s so funny>most shit it’s T11I guess konflikt 47 looks cool. Hopefully it won’t go the way of warmahordes
>>98537747I meant ai instructions to remake the filter.I’m sorry if I had an ESL screw up.
>>98537668Thorpe, unironically, add a lot of horny stuff for eldar, such as state-mandated brothels and drugdens on the most puritancal craftworld, or how one of his main protagonost banged with outcast and lately leave her forr deldussy. Or how Jain Zar complained that "even if she wanted to, she cannot offer her body for sex"
>>98537732That poster. I'm curious how you handle narrative campaigns. The only campaign I've ever played in was the Medusa V campaign run by GW and that was just logging win/loss stats for your faction.
>>98537613Ian Watson was too based for GW.
>>98537791>Trukks have speed freeks keyword>Can shoot tankbustas out of them>Hunter profile still works with firing deckWhat's the issue here
>>98537778trvke
>>98537781What got squatted? I need to collect stl scans of it for archival if it isn’t marine stuff because autism and it might be good for custom guard stuff.The centaur and hippogriff have been making me look more closely at gsc vehicles to use as proxies for them oddly enough.I still can’t find a rock grinder dozer blade stl for leman russ tanks. Nor can I find good autistic rivet count tier remakes of those models for the dozer blade or cad like quality clean scans for the dozer blade.
>>98537762what is this style of drawing called?
>>98537788>DrumpfCringe
>>98537791My Orks had the same problem during 4th edition. I relied entirely on Powerklaws and Super Stikkbombs in melee to take out enemy tanks. If my opponent even fielded 1 Leman Russ or Basilisk I was boned if I didn't have some sort of terrain advantage.
>>98537644I think they are better at a conceptual and aesthetic level than cancer circles, and the terrain rules themselves are fine, but terrain layouts using them are ass to set up and the overall rules for setting up a game result in a pretty unpleasant experience.Maybe it's an improvement, but it definitely isn't good.
>>98537808>What got squatted?Some of the Ork cars, I was just making a joke about squats.
>>98537818Oh okay.I have an ork enjoying friend and if he paints his orks primarily blue I’ll let him know of this place and etiquette or whatever counts as it so he can be another blue ork brigade member.
>>98537811Yes, he is.
>>98537829>Another Blue Ork member joining soonNice. Blue iz best after all.
aren't all the ork cars just going to land beneath a unified datasheet and likely permit the seamless use of what people already have?
>>98537838The unified datasheet only covers the snazzwagon and boosta blasta. Shokkjump and scrapjets are both missing in the rules and the web store.They're effectively squatted. Not a huge blow but lots of Ork players are sad.Personally I'm more excited about everything else we're gaining in the codex. A lot of options opened up for Ork players.
>>98537803>look anon, look here’s what you do>put a 200 point unit in a tin can >see they can even shoot out of it!>did I mention you’ll be hitting on 6’s because it’s in cover? >DONT WORRY THOSE GET LETHAL HITS>ok so your shooting at my knight? 6’s and 5’s >wait he’s -1 to wound How the fuck is this army 80% winrate
>>98537796>elves have state enforced prostitution and fent leaning>"whoa wtf how did we create a god of sex pests and druggies agghh the mon'keighs are to blame for this"the eldar deserved everything that happened to them and worse
>>98537850>>98537796Thorpelore was a mistake.
>>98537787The shokkjump had fun rules. It had a fucking sniper shokk arrack gun. That hit on a 3+ and it could jump all over thr board. People didn't play them cause "muh toorney-mints"
How should I base my vostroyans, just astrogranite and then some snow on that?
>>98537858If they're not fighting in Vostroya, then snow is not needed.
so the war in heaven lasted 10 million years, uh? the new trazyn book says they've been necrons for 70 million years now.
>>98537857Not only was it a 3+ it also brought high strength and high AP on precision. And they have invulnerable saves and they’re cheap points wise as shit
>>98537864I call them Necronicles
>>98537850Slaaneah cannot take your soul if you holding hands with your GF and praying Isha
>>98537752>tfw i have too much gsc shit to paintIts going to take forever at this rate
>>98537762Terra
>>98537817i just dont see why they couldnt have used a basic within 2 inches of the terrain rule or something instead of having the cutout. flat cutouts just look bad, especially with how insanely clogged the new table layouts are. my buddy and i set up our first game of 11th using one of the GW table layouts and the table was so cluttered we couldnt even get our vehicles through most of the table because there was just too much shit physically in the way. i dont think someone with something like a baneblade would even be able to deploy it, we were struggling to get land raiders from one side of the table to the other. and then when you have little paper cutouts for 20+ pieces of terrain, it just gets obnoxious when a simple within x inches of the terrain measurement rule would have sufficedidk, it bothers my autism
>>98537797I've done it a few different ways. One campaign, I wrote an actual narrative to accompany the battles as they were fought (it took a lot of my creative juices, didn't get any painting done during that) and it basically consisted of a bunch of players playing custom scenarios I came up and counting wins. Took around 6 weeks, with 2 games every 2 weeks (as schedules fit for players). This was cool, but it took more effort than I am willing to spend.Another one I did was less involved, I didn't write as much for it, and used the pirate campaign rules GW made in the crucible heroes book, where I told the players to create a crucible hero and have that as their warlord, and then we played a bunch of games and tracked titles. Lots of fun, and the rivalries that built up naturally between the crucible characters were cool.Right now I'm organizing a campaign using the deck that came with Armageddon, it looks pretty neat and I'm putting this narrative on Armageddon itself so I don't have to reflavor the locations or relics, but the structure seems sound for doing it with pretty much anything.
>>98537848>Tankbustas hit on 4s natively with 3 attacks each against vehicles>Can use a mek to give the trukk +1 to hit>Why the fuck would you not want a 200 point unit in a tin can>Rokkits don't have lethal hits>Normally you're wounding knights on 4sThe only thing I can't correct you on is the existence of -1 to wound for whatever knight you're shooting at. Because I don't play knights.Point is, Orks can have high win rates because most people are capable of reading rules correctly, something you clearly cannot do. Regardless, why the fuck are you expecting Ork shooting to be the best? Use breaka Boyz or a Warboss if you're so butthurt about your Orks not being able to shoot something to death in 1 round.
>>98537791>K47 Oof
>>98537863They will fight in poland
>>98537872I started those bikes in February, painted the bikes but once it came to the neophytes I just stopped painting as I just completed 30 more Neophytes for a total of 70. Last month I also finished the bikers but the accessories on the back, I didn't attach. I've been collecting for two years now and only recently hit 2000pts of painted stuff for proper games. Take your time
Alright, I finally pulled the trigger. R8 my purchase. Now I just need to learn how to paint.
>>98537509orks were the best army in the game after more dakka
>>98537689Generally they *weren't* that bad when it came to hobby-relevant content, but they started to have a tendency to editorialize that thankfully mostly stayed out of aforementioned hobby-relevant content, up until they put the writing on the wall that they weren't afraid to really get up on a soapbox circa "There have always been female Custodes" and identify themselves as unable to separate their worldview from what makes 40k an entertaining setting.But frankly what is worse is the fact that since they're rebranding they've decided to arbitrarily paywall the aforementioned hobby content via Patreon, basically reducing their value as an independent info source to almost nil.
>>98537726This is a load of shit given that one of the best selling buggies (skrapjet) was sacked and what is likely the worst or 2nd worst selling buggy (Snazzwagon) was not.
>>98537900good luck niggayou'll need it
>>98537846>>98537838>>98537726they'll be re-added later through a Buggy kill team, wait and see
>>98537874>we couldnt even get our vehicles through most of the table because there was just too much shit physically in the way.I don't know how you managed this. Vehicles can drive through everything but the dense/green terrain pieces on the official layouts, all of which should be placed half an inch or so inside each terrain area. Did you go overboard with light/scatter pieces? A few narrow places is good design, but even they tend to disappear on a man-sized 6x4 board.
>>98537888I've got just over 2k points atm, not all of it is built and most is unpainted. I've come up with a very basic colour scheme i just dont have the time right now, trying to least get in 30 minutes to an hour of painting a day
>>98537879>look anon it’s not that bad you just don’t understand math>see they hit on 5s in cover>and they’re S10!>so instead of 5’s you’ll still need 5’s on most things they’re shooting at!Aw shucks, thank you Mr anon I guess I can’t read after all
>>98537874I am annoyed by the part where they expect you to put a bunch of random objects on top of their ugly terrain cutouts.Actually I have a dozen large ruin area terrain pieces because thats what was standard for every game for decades and now they exclusively demand scatter instead. Please go ahead and eat shit GW.
>>98537470There was a card game?
>>98537924>They're S10Yea I guess you really can't read.>Hunter (vehicle/monster) attack profile: S12
>>98537791All the cars are still very useable though, that generic profile stretches fine
>>98537924>Rokkits are S12>Skipped the part where meks give +1 to hit, meaning 4s in coverGod damn dude put on your glasses
>>98537900many editions too late for war dog souping being good
>>98537924tankbustas arent that bad they have two wounds and a doombolt ability idk wat ur issue is
>>98537874My houerule is: if there's no footprint, if your base is touching the terrain piece, you're in terrain. It's worked fine so far more unorthodox pieces in my collection
>>98537791Warmahordes is seeing a bit of a resurgence believe it or not
Orks have marines shooting now. Can't wait to see new marines.
>>98537929The "new" Horus Heresy lore and art was basically started with a card game anon.Not that one though.
>>98537874>when you have little paper cutouts for 20+ pieces of terrainThere are 16 pieces, and usually a few of them are joined together. If you used 20+ then yeah you made it too cramped.
>>98537973People abuse the term but god damn did the old card game art have soul
>>98537726>the "you have to buy literally every model on GW's website in case they squat something or you're not a real fan" argument againShut the fuck up you shitstirring secondary. I bought a whole fucking buggie army last year and took it to a GT.
>>98537920it was something like this. i dont remember the exact one but it was one of the longways edge missions with all sorts of diagonal terrain piecesthere ended up only being a few lanes the tanks could actually physically fit in. as far as i know our stores tables are the correct size, these layouts just create a ton of janky caddywompus angles and pinches that you cant fit larger models and vehicles through
>>98537742>you have Yugioh card sleeves with drawings of little girls on themmfw
>>98537978Oh god yeah. I've lost the sleeve off my Collected Visions :(
>>98537967Codex creep SM is going to kill the competitive scene for a year if orkz are this good pre-codex and the codex just has lethal hits cleave slapped on everything.
>>98537986Vehicles can move over everything yellow in that image, so there really shouldn't be any issues for something the size of a land raider to move about (unless blocked by enemy models). A Baneblade can't quite go whereever it wants, but it's also fuckhuge so that's fine.
CSM Legionaries don't have Autocannons or Lascannons on their sprues yet you can still equip them with those weapons, how? Also does it make sense to have shooty Legionaries, their ability works only in melee so Chainswords, Bolt Pistols and other melee weapons make the most sense.
>>98537726>>98537983Also the buying argument is fucking bullshit because I wanted three times the buggies you see in that picture and GUESS WHAT? They were OUT OF STOCK for MONTHS leading up to that GT.So shut the FUCK UP.
>>98537917>>98537953th-thanks, you too... ;_;
>>98537996kek
>>98537992No it wont lol as a matter of fact I bet the competitive scene will be more active than ever before
>>98537494Tell me this is your first edition of 40k without actually telling me this is your first edition of 40k
>>98538006I meant that everyone would be playing SM. This editions new missions are great.
>>98538010this is my first edition of 40k
>>98537494>Shan't be playing against new codex armies until my army gets theirsDepending on what your army is you could be waiting for the whole edition only to have GW release your codex in like last 2 months of 11th, after which GW then cans the entire edition and starts 12th.
>>98537796>Or how Jain Zar complained that "even if she wanted to, she cannot offer her body for sex"What was the context of that
Orks :D Orks :D Orks :D Orks :D Orks :D Orks :D Orks :D Orks :D Orks :D Orks :D
>>98537900>csm in 2026
>>98537613Marazhai and Heinrix
>>98537268The inevitable result of catering to the tourneyshitter/CODkiddie mentality. People need to get it into their skulls that unless you're the kind of 450lb cheese-reeking scumbag who'd happily seal club someone who's never played before just to feel an instant of joy at the suffering of another and who's willing to rebuy an army or two every year to metachase, you're basically a nonperson as far as GW is concerned.
>>98537900For the love of god, cancel that shit and get a CSM Kill Team first. You need to test your commitment to painting in general, and ESPECIALLY fiddly Chaos trim, before you buy a whole fucking battleforce and a Knight.
>>98538021It's not quite that bad anymore. Drukhari got something like 8 months with a codex last edition? That's a hell of a lot better than Guard or World Eaters or even Votann in 9th edition.
>>98537869>holding hands with your GFBROTHERGET THE FLAMERTHE HEAVY FLAMER
Is big mek in mega armor good now?
>>98538024>>98538031what's wrong with chaos marines? they have the most appealing aesthetic
>>98538034That's 1 edition out of 10 we've had.So not much of a data point to go off of.
>>98538037Always was
Codex creep this edition is going to make 9th look like pussy shit.
fuck the imperium
>>98538035Mike Brooks keeps putting little romance bits into his Eldar books like an enemies to lovers plot in Big Dakka, toxic yuri and an orgy in Queen of Knives, and gay for hidden love in Voidscarred. But everything is always gade to black or off screen or only heavy implications because GW probably has some specific mandate against an sexually explicit acts being described in their books. There's definitely a lot more raunchy stuff in the older novels though so this must be a more recent phenomenon.
>>98538058Oh yea?
>>98538063o yea
>>98538035
>>98537846Yeah and we're telling you there's nothing stopping you from using the dragsta under the buggy rules'mek special' is a vague weapon name, easily covers the zappy cannon on it
>>98538058>Fuck the imperium I knew tau women prefered human men
>>98537900Anon please if you haven't painted/assembled before just buy a single box of Legionaries or something since if you decide you hate doing it (and Chaos can be annoying to paint) you at least are only spending $50 on a box instead of $350.
>>98538073You should listen to your intrusive thoughts less
>>98538069
>>98538075Yeah man, I'm agreeing with you. Sure it feels a little bad to lose the actual rules for that datasheet, but I'm just gonna use those models as warbuggies now. I'm gonna focus more on the other combos that opened up for me instead of whining about 1 thing that I "lost".
>>98538079that never happenedfake news
>>98538045if you cannot handle the TRIM ZONE, you will sell your shit within the year.CSM do look cool, but you need to put in 2x the painting time to get that look.
>>98537255I still use a Big Mek w/KFF
I cant wait for the CSM crying about Loyalist marines going t5 three wounds, it's going to be 7th-9th all over again
>>98538035>>98538058>>98538073As a normal person who plays football and supports his Norf FC, and has a gf, like all of the decent members of GW do, what the fuck is wrong with you.I think because you post on here you think you're not subnormal. But seeking titillation from EVERYTHING you do, it's just sad lads. You are sad messes.
>>98538078No
>>98538090CSM are gonna be even more bullshit because their codex releases later
>>98538091post models
>>98538073This creature would be hideous irl I only want to fuck it because it's a drawing
>>98537760Bigseems like they are getting one of the first codexes then. And as follows are 12th edition villains
>>98537726The Megatrakk Scrapjet was the second most popular buggy after the Squibuggy and it got squatted. Nobody bought the Kustom Boosta Blasta in 3 editions and it's still around.The squatting has nothing to do with popularity.
>>98538085ok, you convinced me, I pussed out and cancelled my order
>>98538073The other ones were better
>>98538062Mike brooks is fucking retard with discord grooming tier romance writting>>98538022Dark eldar archon wanted a payment. Later, he wanted to mindrape her as a price, but she outraped him
>>98538078>>98538091>>98538100Beware demonic temptations
>>98538091>As a normal person who plays football and supports his Norf FC, and has a gfget the fuck off my website FAGGOT
>>98537986It bugs me to no end to see symmetrical terrain in 40kThe fact that it even exist is insulting to the hobby
>>98538085Black legion is literally primer and gold trim
>>98538091I have sex almost every day and I still like coomer shit a lot, I think you're just a neopuritan faggot
>>98538123this is hasn't been a sekrit club for decades now anon let it go
>>98538132The only people who claim "Neopuritan" nonsense are the same people who certainly are not having regular sex, unless it is non-consensual. Lmao.
>>98538132females with autism usually are nymphos so it tracks sissa
>>98538123you found out about 4chan in 2022
>>98538134No, we’re still the mysteriously hacker known as 4chan.
>>98538142what a sad projection lmao
>>98538119BLUE BOARD
>>98538123lurk for 40thousand years before posting again.
>>98537900You're bad with money & too ahead of yourself.
>>98538115Its worth just trying out painting first anonYou can always go hard on a big order later
What a shitty thread
>>98538160>inadvertently reveals that he thinks $300 is a lot of money
>>98538180Would you like to add something of substance to it or just complain like a female?
A Dr Pepper can is about as wide as a baneblade.
>>98538182That purchase isn't costing you money it's costing you time you can't commit to, if you're a newfag just learning to build and paint that shit will take you 3 months minimum
>>98538132I don't even care about ridding the Anglican church of Catholic influence. Why does everyone call me a puritan?
>>98538142the projection never stops
>>98538194Never drank dr pepperNeed cock for referenceBaneblades are pretty cool
>>98538197>$300 for 3 months worth of hobbyingDamn this shit is cheap bros
>>98538184ntab I could post a model or something if that helps
>>98538184permanent means permanent
>>98538200Because 250 years of propaganda, exaggeration, and historical revisionism, has led people to believe that puritan settlers were sexless freaks who would stone people for showing too much ankle in public.
That new Meganobz ability is low-key insane. They're gonna be essentially unkillable against anything with less than AP-2. Good to see they're finally letting go of the weird self-imposed restriction on D3+ on melee infantry. Seemed like an overcorrection to thunder hammer supremacy in 8/9.
>>98538191Yeah that's a pretty strong one
>>98538202You can tape them together to get a rough core. Maybe with plasticard you could fill in the extra depth. Add some ork bitz and you’ll have a gun wagon.
>>98538204That would be lovely >>98538206begone pest
>>98538221That would be too big, I think. I don't think of wagon are supposed to be baneblade sized.
Vehicles should be completely modular with rules support for every possible combo across all compatible kits>Landest Raider>4 Achilles sponson twin multimeltas, Terminus Ultra hull-mounted lascannon, top-mounted Helios missile launcher, phobos pintle-mounted multi-melta, front-mounted Ares demolisher cannon
go>>98538134the>>98538144fuck>>98538157back
>>98538233uh oh newfag melty
>>98538114KBBs had their time in the sun for a bit as a utility pick in 10th, it's the Snazzwagon that never sold.
>>98538182median income in the U.S. is $50k/yr, $300 is indeed a lot of money to spend on a hunk of plastic
>>98538228The new players yearn for the 3rd edition Vehicle Design Rules
>>98538215They stole armor of fucking contempt this is BULLSHIT fucking GRIGGERS
>>98538191Post the plant comic
>>98538226oh its you, well now I dont feel like posting a model anymore
This past weekend at my LGS our game got interrupted by the sound of sirensThe cops came in and arrested some obese guy playing space wolves for having CP on his hard driveWhile they were dragging him away he was screaming “MAPwolves unite!” and howling into the air
>>98538241Thats approximately 2 days worth of income thenDoesnt seem that bad
>>98538233Back where?
>>98538242Bring back the vehicle damage chart
>>98538244I just fear that this is a presage for the Marines codex. I don't see them being anything but horribly broken if the Ork codex is the appetizer. Hell, most of it could be balanced but you know people will zero in on some broken combo or another across the bazillion datasheets and detachments.
retards that complain about trim must have parkinsons
>>98538228Play 3rd/4thReally there is no real reason to play current edition 40k.
>>98538275I mean it IS more time consuming than painting flat panels
>>98538115You absolutely should try painting, just don't drown yourself in hard-to-paint miniatures when you start. Grab a Kill Team of your choice, clippers, glue and a few paints. You can figure out what paints to get by googling, watching a video or even checking out the Citadel Color app*.There are "start painting/collecting" kits which includes all of that shit in one box, but they're currently locked to Vanilla Marines, Orks and Tyranids**.*Don't buy all of the paints from Citadel Color app, it's extreme overkill designed to sell you 20 paints for one model. Just the main base colors, a highlight color and maybe a wash. Or speed paints if you're a speed demon.**Tyranids are last edition but you should still be available most places.
>>98538148Human ingenuity knows no bounds.
>>98538228>Proteus with Spartan sponsons (already in the kit) and Phobos sponsons on the side doorsFREEEEM! (14x)
>>98538115Grab a box of Legionnaires, or a Combat Patrol at most as your initial purchase. CSM is a pretty dope faction. Decide on a color scheme and buy your paints accordingly. I'm thinking of collecting myself, either Word Bearers or some custom warband that openly worships chaos so I want to field Possessed, Sorcerers, Daemon princes and Chaos Chaplains.
>>98538275It is not difficult with practice, but it is absolutely time consuming. Also it does require a steady hand like you said, so you can't smoke up, zone out and waste an afternoon painting trim. I can't anyway. The experiment was a disaster.
>>98538275It's tedious and if you're painting anything but black or blue armor cleanup is even more tedious
>>98538323Gotta sober up anonThe Emperor doesn’t want you high on drugs!
>>98537494>oldfags: we want go back to 3rd edition>monkey paw curls
Either he is the most successful troll in the history of /tg/ or he really is this bad. For his sake I hope it's the former.
>>98538348I think he must lean in to it on purpose. No one could possibly be so unaware. People just cannot help but engage everytime and he just takes them for the same ride time and time again.
>>98538348Nobody spends thousands on models just to trollHe's genuinely this pathetic
How are your guys' collage projects going? I have a couple highlights and all the metallics to finish, and then after that the night lord side of things will be complete.I wish I made the warband icon a four-tined fork. Oh well.What chapter should I paint the stabbed scout? My top three picks are>Dark Angels>Blood Angels>Victorious Fists (olive green armor, white pauldrons, and black arms), my homebrew chapter>>98537652The curb stomp pose from American History X is cool and a great meme.
Schizo posting? Is the wolf guy here?
>>98538348The end result of the 4chan experiment: a website with no filter ends up populated by the mentally ill who were filtered from everywhere else.Since they cannot be removed, these mentally ill individuals then drive out anyone who cannot tolerate their existence. They become the filter.
>>98538348Every general on 4chan has at least one designated schizo, he is ours.
>>98538390Good.
>>98538370Alright an ork nob curbstomping a space wolf coming up.
>>98538370Looking good
>>98538390>a website with no filterwe do have a filter, it's just that the mods don't do their fucking jobs
>>98538348I genuinely think it's at the point where there are a couple copycats who larp as him just to keep the meme alive
>>98538411>the ancient word filters for dead memes from ten years ago are all still in place>followed by the deafening silence of the moderation during the age of seethe cope dilate etc.The mods only wake up to ban you if you're too mean to /pol/ tourists.
>>98538390Its not going to happen but the only way to keep this place tolerable without moderation is requiring something to start posting. Be it a long timer before posting from a new IP, e-mail verification, anything that would force shitposters to actually put in some effort.
>>98538182>>98538241$300 for little plastic bits is a lot of money in an economy as bad as it is everywhere today. Spend that on necessities or something you can resell later at least.
>>98538424It is a well known fact that all jannies are trannies.
>>98538348Seeing that people like Chris Chan exist, I do not at all doubt he is this dysfunctional.Every once in a time there will be a lolcow to rule all lolcows with their inane antics.
>>98538429It doesn't help that there's a share of bitter faggots who chase away those who don't know they're supposed to lurk moar before posting. >Hey, I'm trying to do X paint scheme, which faction would be best for that?When told to fuck off, kill themselves, and called a nigger baiting with the question, normal people will just leave while schizos will make that moment their identity for the next four years
>>98538449>I constantly throw fits and ignore people genuinely trying to engage with me to continue throwing fits why does nobody like me???
>>98538449You are the problem
>>98538346If they wanted that truely, they'd just go play 3rd edition without asking GW for help.
Anyone here used to watch StrikingScorpion82?
>>98538298Based
>>98538469>feminine/leftist coded postIronic considering that all your posts are just deflecting or lying or trying to gaslight people while pretending you aren't an insufferable mentally ill bellend.
>>98538494If you don't like me or my models just ignore me dude, I do it all the time to that grey knights retard and a few others. Be an adult and learn to control and direct your emotions effectively.
>>98538501All people have to do is even mention the O&Tfag being a good painter and you start spamming sarcastic laughing gifsYou don't ignore shit you pedofaggot lmao
Hi,I'm pretty new to 40K lore. Is there a reason why the Emperor of Mankind didn't turn into a giant worm?
>>98538509How the fuck does someone unironically consider O&Tfag as not a good painter? You'd have to be either a complete retard or a complete snob (aka a variant of retard) to think he's not.
>>98538511He's already immortal.
>>98538501>Be an adult and learn to control and direct your emotions effectivelythis has to be satire at this point
>>98538511He was going to turn himself into a pickle but Horus heard him wrong and turned him into a cripple.
>>98538512The mutant seethes blindly, he genuinely thinks that guy's ragnar that he's been working on looks worse than the mutant's sloppa>>98538513What happened to ignoring the posts you don't like all the time?
>>98538511Leto Two would probably sue.
>>98538511I dunno, ask /hhg/.
>>98538522You're honestly a waste of my time, just end the conversation and talk with someone else.
>>98538501>If you don't like me or my models just ignore me dudeI wish I could ignore you, but instead you break down the metaphorical door inside my head and then shit on the carpet.
>>98538513>he's a nasty little worm who constantly berates me anonymously.He hasn't posted here in 6 months>>98538531He's a waste of your time because he immediately proved you wrong?
>>98538523Yeah true.Emperor would be fucked.
>>98538511Because 40k isn't Dune.
>>98537289I hate the look of it so far. The codex seems so fucking OP while stripping away lots of fun options. Its just pure stat bloat and this is just the first codex of the edition in an extremely simple army so its a very bad omen>>98537901More Dakka got nerfed within a week and orks only climbed to the top after they did a balance sweep when armaggedon came out and they dropped prices for half the army
>>98538513You don't belong.
What are we working on this week fellas?
>>98538511a corpse on a chair was more stylish than a worm godand there's no magic spice in 40k shat out by giant worms
>>98538557My collage project. I'm glad I can participate in them.
>>98538346What the fuck are you talking about? Ork codex reveal is the exact opposite of 3rd edition, unless you're talking about 3rd edition in the sense of "stripping out a huge number of units for no apparent reason."
>>98538576Very nice anon, I’m glad you get to associate with your hobby colleagues freely.
>>985382288th ed Chapter Approved had rules for that
What's the point of psyker levels and why did they remove pretty much all consequences from failing to cast a psychic power?
gonna put d-scythes on all my wraithguard for maximum fagwolf soul melting.
>>98538511He uses different expression of the masculine phallus to signal his authority and dominion
>>98538415Nah, there was the period earlier this year where he actually kept his word and stayed away from the thread for like 2-3 weeks, I think I saw maybe one person trying to impersonate him and it was obviously tongue in cheek rather than a genuine attempt to poke a hornet's nest. So I don't think the impersonator shit was ever real, or if people have been doing it it's been reactionary - he's already shitting up the thread and people start imitating him to mock him, not to make other posters think he's worse than he is.
>>98537255Justice for grot tanks
>>98538521
>>98537535>pointless waste of paperI hate this sentiment, digital rules and balancing is nice and the balancing is so trash that the books instantly go out of date but god please dont let GW get away with the bullshit they pulled with AOS 4th where there are no printed points in the book and your forced to use their shitty online app where you cant even print out the balance updates or points like we could in 9th/10th to just use alongside the book. I dont want to need an internet connection and my phone to play my fucking tabletop game. It also a way for them to try and ensure you cant just go back and play older editions.>>98538610psykers were so nerfed it was basically just take D3 wounds for failing to shoot a gun because lol fuck you so they removed it
>>98538614How radical and bold of you, are you something of a badass?
>>98537593We’ll probably get another batch of 1DP detachments for most factions for Grotmas.
>>98538437>muh economyIts $300 bruh relax lmao
>>98538586I suppose it's 3rd in the sense of smaller, cheaper, softback codexes, though in 3rd they were even cheaper since they didn't have any lore in them.
>>98538557fucking around with Bad Moons test schemeAccidentally looted space wolves
>>98538610But they just added back the penalty. If you fail the psyker (and its unit) become battleshocked and the power fails and if it's a psyker of more than level 1 then they can't cast any more powers that turn.
>>9853831115, you forgot the crew member sticking out of the hatch who brought his personal lascannon from home
>>98538658$320 plus the paints & time that goes into building them. It's a bad investment no matter how you look at it. Especially if you aren't already experienced painting.
>>98538668Its a hobby lol you do it for enjoyment
>>98538676Yeah & you start small to ease yourself into it. You don't get a whole army & giant mechs to start learning the bare minimum of painting.
>>98538683Let the man paint and play as he wants
>>98538688stop ban evading
>>98538691
>>98538688I can't stop him but I can & should call him irresponsible.
>>98537255Every CSM army needs a lovingly fucked up HH unit
I decided to build upon my armies from the Armageddon set. Idk how it works in 40k, are there any staples that I absolutely need less I get assraped on the tabletop? I have the BA combat patrol. I was thinking a tank of some kind, a dreadnought, a LandRaider and some termiantors. For the orks idk, but those new motorcycles look cool.Bonus question, I am also eyeing the Old World starter set, but what I read from the rules its really similar to 40k. Yeah I watched battle reports and I get it, less shooting, formations, less tarrain, more melee, but can anyone who has played both tell me how does it feel in play? Slower, faster, more spreadsheet checking, less, more/less stalematey( I feel two blocks smashing each other would feel like this)?
>>98538683Doing this first before buying a large army doesnt make the army a better investment
>>98538651yeah, thats why I play wraiths anon. sorry you chose the worst marine subfaction to cheer for.
>>98538699the fact that the new world eaters animation has porno shots of dreadclaws but you can't even field them as legends in a world eaters army pisses me off so much
>>98538707It does if you're already experienced & know what army you want to build.
>>98538559>a corpse on a chair was more stylish than a worm godNope.
>>98538718Not in this economy bud
>>98538707it's a hobby not an investment
>>98538709Look up badass in the Warhammer dictionary and a picture of Leman Russ is staring at you kid.
>>98538668But how money would you spend otherwise anon? It seems like a lot, because you are spending it at once and that sucks yeah, but consider how much you will spend on your other hobbies, bit by bit? Warham will keep you occupied in the meantime with toy soldiers, instead of... idk wasting 3000 on your car, 500 on electrical components, idk how much on wood carving instruments, thousand on sport equipment, or if you really suck, on overpriced alcohol in bars. But yeah the prices are ridiculous.
>>98538665If they "fail" the psychic roll their unit becomes battleshocked but the power still goes off. Nothing about how it's written says the remaining steps don't occur. It does prevent casting further powers.
Please modgods just sacrifice all of Arkansas on the altar of decals at this point
>>98538724Correct
>>98538734How about investing 300$ on ork NFTs?
>>98538734>overpriced alcohol in barsdecal…our resident MAPwolf catching strays today
>>98538734Yeah everything costs money but if you're doing something as a hobby to unwind then it makes more sense to do it bit by bit rather than diving headfirst into something you might hate & get overwhelmed by. Then you have something you'll never touch or finish & wasted all that money on it where it could've gone to something else.
>>98538728you forgot to mention katandras cutting leman's head off while fenris burns in the background.
>>98538752I read you bruv
>>98538752It's also just a good idea to always have hobby goals of the hints you want to get someday as motivation to work through what you already have. Buying a whole army up front just takes away incentives and turns them into obligations.
>>98538768Exactly.
Imagine if we had all bought bitcoin instead of plastic crack oof
>>98538650>but god please dont let GW get away with the bullshit they pulled with AOS 4th where there are no printed points in the book and your forced to use their shitty online apptoo late amigo. the orkz codex leaked and there's no points to be found.
>>98538780With the exact same confidence you could have bought NFTs and roped by now. No one knew it would have exploded 15 years ago.
>>98538650Not only are there no points in the book, some of the core rules aren't even in the core rules book and are exclusive to the app.
>>98538796Not only are there no unit and enhancement points, but there's also no detachment points and there's no detachment dispositions. There's a lot we don't know yet about how this faction is even going to play.
>>98538780My friend bought a bunch of bitcoin when it was a new thing and made a school presentation about it, then he forgot about the wallet for years. He remembered he had those a couple of years after and spent it all buying his first gaming pc. If only he had saved it he would be a millionaire right now. It was a nice PC though.
Why would an Ork care if another Ork kills their grot? they can always nab a new one any time so who gives a squigshit about it?
>>98538831>Oi, you can't killz my lucky grot, dat's my job!
>>98538831>why would an Ork care if another Ork breaks their gun?>they can always nab a new one any time so who gives a squigshit about it?>why would an Ork care if another Ork eats their squig?>they can always nab a new one any time so who gives a squigshit about it?Etc etc. Retarded logic. Orks are always looking for any excuse to fight to begin with, fucking with their property is a great way to get krumped.
To the anon who suggested AK reddish grey for my confederate guardsmen, thank you very muchThe color is perfect, and the need to multicoat lets it carry the ramshackle look of real butternut (via being thinner in places and thicker in others) effortlessly. It's perfect for this use.I'll hopefully have a squad and the Major-General painted up soon for a pic, I haven't decided on a vehicle scheme yet camo pattern or British-style "gray-brown with a bi-color friend/foe marking" or I'd toss in a Chimera too.>>98538228>The Russianest Man Battle Tank>5 lascannons (1 hull, 4 in the 2 sponsons), 1 Eradicator Nova Cannon, pintle-mounted Punisher Gatling Cannon, 24 Hunter-Killer missles welded to the hullI agree, let every guard player do this.
I'm so sick of being told to "support your local hobby store"I am not spending 30-50% more on a smaller selection of lower quality goods in order to support a store staffed by nothing but jackasses and who aren't even hosting any fucking games other than commander
>>98538831>Oi, I wuz gunna squish dat grot!
>>98538780The real play was buying GW stock.
>>98538948Someone has a shitty LGS.>Card gamers forced into shitty containment LGS on other side of town>All tables dedicated to regular board games and wargames>Regularly hosts tournaments and painting days>Points system so forgiving I'll have ~$70 off of my Ork codex+models purchase just from buying snacks over the past few months, which will also accrue points (will probably shoot me back up to $40 off)>Me and a few others just leave our terrain there for everyone to use so plenty of comfy painted terrain to use>Dedicated 40k nights where 9/10 tables are basically reserved for 40k players
>>98538228>Pick base vehicle>Vehicle has X features>Can trade features for others (a door for a weapon spot)>weapon spot come with Y capacity>A capacity of 6 means you can have 2 heavy weapons or 6 regular weapons, all weapons must be the same on a single weapon spot>All weapons on a singular weapon spot are automatically twin-linked (one hit roll for all the shots)>Exceptions like dual weapon spots, like turrets (so you can have the lasplas on the razorback, or coaxial autocannons on baneblades)>Weapons cost points but can also cost speed or transport capacity (so you can have stuff like the LR Crusader being faster & transport more)Something like that would be fun. If your faction has a gun and your vehicle can fit it
Any cool Chaos Warbands in terms of lore and more importantly, color scheme?
>>98538972The good stores had small margins because they were doing it for the love of the game so they got driven out by endless price hikes and exploding rents
>>98538987Yeah, it's an unfortunately common trend. I know the guy who runs the last wargame store in my town and he hemmed and hawed for like half a year about raising his prices or just starting to charge for using game tables and his terrain. Ultimately he just went with the charging for tables, but he also started an annual membership so you can just get a permanent 5% discount and free table use on any non-tournament day.
>>98538948If you play there, buy some things from them so they can keep the lights on.Otherwise, yea buy where it's cheapest. Most online stores I'm aware of have free shipping for orders over like $50, and guess what 1 of nearly all GW models costs, even with the 15-20% discount?Buying paint online is the only place where I'd err on buying it local because you have the final steps of quality control (via the store inspecting their inventory and you seeing it in-hand) before paying for it. Even then I usually order paints as well because no one near me carries anything but Citadel or craft paints.>>98538972Shitty LGSes are more common than you think.My LGS is heavy into TCGs and RPGs, they "have" a Warhammer section but they have literally 7 boxes combined for all of GW's games on the shelves and have no intention of restocking it according to the store owner when I asked him.Of those 7, 2 are the of same Kroot unit, 1 is the Penitent Crusader Host box (that is at a $240 pricetag), 2 are WHF Cathay heroes, and the final 2 are AoS Sigmarines, so it wouldn't even be worth picking over.
>>98538757Umm, no
>>98539014>>98539011That's really unfortunate, I'll just consider myself blessed to be near such a good one, then. Sucks to hear about the state of third spaces in general.
>>98538716It's cheaper for GW to merely tease things like eldar using webway portals, than to actually sell portals. Or something.
>>98537613Fact: Age of Sigmar general "/aosg/" has confirmed there is no proof that Beastmen kidnap and rape human women, this is just something nreds made up.
ActuallyNow I want to write a romance smut with slightly changed names for warhammer but not warhammer where a human woman romances a beastmanExcept the beastman doesn't talk so it's all "the woman imagining what he's saying"
>>98539122THIS is what will save 40k
Speaking of beastmen, I'll ask again regarding a potential Tau based kitbash. So far I'm thinking Fellgor body with Beastlord head. Can't get the armor exactly by Tau fire warriors seem like a good place to start. Sword is the hard part though unless I cut up a Kroot sword to use for the blade. Suggestions?
>>98539122The human woman imagines the beastman is talking provocitively at her as he reaches down his pants, but he just pulls out a gun and shoots her in the head and uses her chest as a battle standard
>>98538948>I am not spending 30-50% more on a smaller selection of lower quality goodsIn my entire life I have never known to to be 30%-50% more to get stuff at the LGS.
Could someone help me Identify this Sprue, I got it with a bunch of others from a joblot. To me it looks like a mini of the month model, but I cant find it on the list.
>>98539157I mean Beastmen are legitimately known for being rapey so he probably rapes her first and then kills her.
>>98539137>picA classic
>>98538811>Not only are there no unit and enhancement points, but there's also no detachment points and there's no detachment dispositions.This is absolute fucking cancer.
>>98539173I think it's a guardsman
>>98538976no, they're all cringe, make one yourself
>>98539177Very on brand for a 40k romance if the woman was assuming she and the beastman were experiencing a romantic connection as they made love, but after it's over it's revealed the beastman was just raping her from its perspective and proceeds to kill her.
>>98539186Yeah definitely a cadian, with a shovel in his pack, I'm just struggling to know where its from. There's three other sprues attached to this one, and the code on one is; 99380199024
>>98538947>To the anon who suggested AK reddish grey for my confederate guardsmen, thank you very muchYou're welcome. Was supposed to finish my hellblasters this week so of course I built a chaplain and dicked around with the repex instead.
>>98538831Yes orks can get attached to their grots
>>98538844Dat grot wasn't yours ta krump
>Every kid buys Space Marines and only paints them as UltramarinesI thought the defacto faction GW loved to advertise to kids and teens were originally World Eaters? Unless I'm wrong?
>Male Romance >Although we met as foes, circumstances have kept us together and I find I now have feelings for you, you terrible abomination >REEEEEEEEEEE (Shut up and kiss me you corpse worshipping monkey) *translated from Tzaangor*Female Romance >oh boy I sure hope no big dangerous man comes and takes advantage of little ol me......because I'm totally strong and independent and would give them what for...... anyone....hello?What causes this?
>>98539209for fuck sake anon, just bing guardsman miniature of the month and it will s how you that its from jan 2023
>>98539173It's the January 2023 Mini of the Month. GW launched the newest Cadians around then.It's a duplicate of one of the options you can build out of that 10-man squad.>>98539211>finishing hellblastersThis is the sign of a quality poster>>98539222Ultramarines were the posterboy of multiple of the past few 40k video games, so they're the obvious intro for newfriends to get them into the setting.>Space Marine 2>Gladius
>>98539229Unironically neanderthal mentality of rape in caveman prehistory. It's hardwired into women to want to be overpowered.
>>98539235But why do they always paint them as Ultramarines when there's a ridiculous amount of chapters?
>>98539244Ultramarines are the easiest paint scheme for new painters to consistently make look good. Blue has super easy and consistent coverage and gold trim is relatively easy to paint on the large features that their scheme requires it on.
>>98539244They need an intro to "the setting" and Ultramarines are the easiest because that's "the main character" in the popular video game that this kid/teen has most likely played if they're considering getting into 40k at all.People outside of the hobby know that there's different colors of space marines, they don't know what the colors mean.They see Ultramarines as "the blue ones" and want to paint their models like the ones they see in their video game. Once they're in, then these people learn more and grow from there.And the paint scheme is pretty doable for a beginner.
What 20 original chapters of Space Marines do you see someone painted is considered based or cringe?
>>98539266What are the 20 original chapters? Do you mean the legions? Of which there are only 18?
>>98538610>the pointPower granularity and having an outlet to properly represent more powerful psykers, as almost all editions of both 40k and WFB/AOS have. This new version has only just been unveiled and the Orks codex doesn't go crazy with it, but I expect PL up to 3 or 4 with many different power options so you gotta choose between multiple weak or a few strong powers, flexible too. Tons and tons of design space, you know TS are gonna go crazy with it and I expect Eldar/GK/Nids to get some fun stuff as well. Only issue is the fact that offensive powers are siloed apart but I wouldn't be surprised if we got something like "Psyker level X, this model is equipped with this weapon (offensive power) until end of turn".>remove pretty much all consequencesFor one, if you fail a check you can't cast for the rest of the turn at least. It presents a potential downside to attached psykers too, which will be most of them, since losing OC and strats for an important unit is gonna be disastrous. If abilities like the Warp'ead getting to reroll tests are commonplace it won't me much of an issue since rolling snake eyes is so unlikely.
How many kids does it take to create a full space marine? I mean it's the right one, plus a bunch of "guess it wasn't you".I want to know how wasteful the process is, and if sparsely populated feral worlds can truly sustain it
>>98539240Neanderthals were the smaller ones. Are yours saying women are neanderthals?>Mfw they are a whole different species altogether
>>98539295Over 90% tend to die or fail to handle the final steps.>>98539308But also stronger. I am saying women are primitive brained.
>>98539319So, 10 kids per successful space marine? That sound too optimistic numbers. Like GW numbers.I better multiply it by 100.Next you'll tell me you can conquer a planet with 1 million guardsmen, when Verdun alone had like 2 million.
>>98539295A space marine chapter needs like five chapter serfs and ten servitors to every actual battle brother still so it's not like the failed aspirants all go to waste.
>>98539235Ah, silly me, thank you. Appologies if this is idiotic as well, but this one continues to vex me.
>>98539330Well it depends what you mean by conquer. Taking back a planet from an occupying chaos force is gonna take 10s of millions.
>>98539336All serfs are male also? :OI'm not sure I'd take them. They'll probably hold a grudge and jealousy against the successful marines
>>98538811They don't even list Psyker Levels. fucking wild that they think that's something worth monthly updates for
>>98539360What do you mean? Psyker levels are on the datasheets, it's almost certainly gonna be rolled out with codex updates as a mechanic. I doubt they'll want to batch-update every single psyker in the game online.
>>98539357Those ones become servitors. And no, sometimes chapter serfs are former family members or other populace members from the recruiting worlds they draw their aspirants from so they get all sorts depending on the individual chapter practices. There are definitely some female serfs in the lore.
>>98539345Looks like a regular CSM Legionary
is there a rip of the exodite lore book yet?
>>98539360They literally do though.
>>98539428i misread it then, i thought it just listed the psychic levels of the abilities.
>>98539345It's just a CSM Legionary, but I have no idea what it's from.None of the 2026 "mini of the month"s have been a CSM so far, so it's either out of a larger kit that I'm not aware of or it went out in error (and CSM might be getting new models soon in this case).It isn't even the same model as the June 2022 CSM, so it's not just a new date code on that sprue either.
space wolves look like THAT?!?
>>98538194Anybody got stls of rivet counting 1:1 tier faithful remakes of the baneblades and all their variants? Even the forgeworld upgrade stuff?>>98538255Probably fake but police bodycam is asmr to me as sadistic as it sounds.I want to listen to a warhammer tourneyfag getting arrested or a Pokémon scalper.Anybody else like listening to police bodycam videos when painting? I love that stuff because it is good background noise and reminds me I’m not doing stupid shit that warrants police arresting me.
>>98539448>I actually see this type of design in Corvus Belli InfinityGod what I would give to have a miniature war game store in my city besides Games Workshop.
>>98539448How much money did the sculptor get paid if this is a commissioned model?I do need an stl sculptor that takes commissions for fair prices.I messaged a guy and he hasn’t responded so he probably ghosted me despite doing two previous guard bit commissions.Maybe I should message him again? It was a few weeks ago.I’m not sure if I can trust fiverr and sharing commissioned models might break tos or something similar. At the point where I may try to learn blender and I feel like returning to it to be reminded I’m retarded as blender is supposedly very good now for sculpting.
>>98539288Losing OC and strats usually isn't as disastrous as your psyker outright vanishing or exploding with a big template over his pals.
>>98537255I run a Leviathan Dreadnaught in my Black Templar army. It's decent but not broken. Basically a Temu Brutalis.
>>98539572hellblaster status?
I wasn't feeling the process so I finished a model and I am quite pleased with the end look. Batch painting without doing a test model is a big risk.
>>98539582Also painted his little screen I quite like it.
>>98539582Looks really nice even tho firstborn
>>98539584Nice work on the screens anon, those are fun to paint and you get nice effects out of them.
>>98539479The got rid of all the sculpts like that AFAIK
>>98539582Glad to see the final product, sometimes you just gotta trust the process.>>98539584Neat.
Custom terrain finished (might make more shacks, but not sure yet)
>>98539288We've got some examples of offensive powers as Enhancements from the new codex, it wouldn't surprise me if that's the direction they go with Psychic attacks for generic psykers.Guys renowned for their mind bullet spam like Magnus or Ahriman will probably still have that, just built into the datasheet instead of something any unit of equivalent PL can take.
>>98539639yo where are the little placards that lay out prices on the waresjust something that comes to mind ;3
>>98539722>Have to take a specific detachment and buy an enhancement to get access to a psychic power you used to get for freeThis game is so gay
>>98539597Thanks! I tried copying this one and it turned out pretty nice.>>98539634Yeah I wasn't feeling the grey and I changed the yellow two times but in the end it worked out great with the weathering.
>>98539639Based terrain maker. Post the table when its complete
>>98539745Its an intentional balance mechanic. You can still splash a Weirdboy in your list and get value, but if you want to make them a significant part of your army, you gotta pay the tax.The shitty one is the Emperor's Champion detachment for Black Templar. 1 DP + 15 points for an enhancement for a single model, and it takes the unit from "just for fun" to "usable".
>>98539572Pedo ban evader
>>98539782>Its an intentional balance mechanic.It's a shitty implementation of the old warlord traits, relics and psychic disciplines blended together so they have to do a third of the work they used to.
>>98537248Reminder that until a non-psyker makes rune priest rituals work, there are no grounds to call them sorcerers.
>>98539754Unfortunately, I do not have a 'table' and likely won't be doing too much more terrain. I already have too much shit and I purely did that one because I had an idea. I might finish off the 'butchers' one I am working on, but I have no bits to resemble food beyond the shit I am cutting up and I am running out of ideas. This one is the work in progress butcher one without any additional stuff yet (Yes, the 'Canvas' Is a Pepsi Max™ can)
>>98539807sorcerers don't come from non-psykers, it's still ones with psychic potential that make pacts with demons and other spirits to amplify their powersironically enough, the only type of magic that can not require psychic potential, is rune magic
>>98539831The point of sorcery is to tap into the Warp without being a psyker. So unless a non-psyker can make their methods work, it's not sorcery.
>>98539852>The point of sorcery is to tap into the Warp without being a psyker.No, it's not, it's just getting more power via demonic deals.If you are a psyker with a wolf tail buttplug in your ass and ask for and receive help from a wolf-shaped demon, you are a sorcerer, and a furfag.
>>98539866>No, it's notIt is
>>98539448This would be too based and straight for normal SW fags to buy.
World Eaters don't got a lot of unique units.
>>98539888
>>98539884If sorcery is just about getting psychic potential when you don't have it then magnus and the thousand sons psykers wouldn't be labelled sorcerers because they were already psykers before contacting demons.But that's retarded to argue, they are sorcerers, you are wrong, the one and only difference between chaos sorcery and wolffag sorcery is that instead of dabbling with warp spirits that live in the warp they dabble with warp spirits that live on a world.And stop ban evading.
>>98539852Correct. Chaos worshippers don't need psykers to perform demon-summoning rituals, just sacrifices.
>>98539900Anon, you can be a sorcerer and a psyker at the same time. How much of 40k am I going to need to spoonfeed you?
>>98539890i think that berserkers basically being forward-advance-and-close-to-charge automata is pretty cool, and struggle to think of much else that i feel is worth doing with thamnot really a fan of a lot of their stuff desu just on the model front, really find the eightbound to be quite goofy and the jakhals and co. not quite up to snuff for waging war with them at the highest of gradients. i don't think the shooting toys potentially available are warranting of much considerationangron is a must for capping off a big berzerker tide
Why does GW still do the codex model? Surely they'd make more is they dropped new data sheets for every faction each month. Or are there so many people who buy a new army on each codex that GW makes more from codecies?
>>98539807The space wolves themselves deny being psykers using psychic powers, so by your argument they would be sorcerers.
>>98539939>Surely they'd make more is they dropped new data sheets for every faction each monthNo, they wouldn't, people don't like digital purchases or rules rollout via magazines.A lot of whales buy codexes not for their rules but as collectibles, and that wouldn't work with smaller publications.
>>98539448no, they look like that
>>98539920>Anon, you can be a sorcerer and a psyker at the same time....that's what I was arguing and what you were arguing against: the space wolves are sorcerers because they make deals with wolf-demons, regardless of whether they start out as psykers, because making deals with demons is what makes someone a sorcerer.
>>98539961You can still keep codecies as quarterly lore books, with a bunch of lore and pictures and all that jazz. They could even use the codex release to time the release of new models. When I say "codex model" I mean the release model where once an edition they drop a whole bunch of stuff for one faction and update the rules all at once rather than releasing rules for each faction each month. They can still jew with the codex subscriptions on the app with that method.
I bought a second hand repulsor executioner that needs a lot of loveIf one of its default weapons is missing can I still use it since it's on the sheet?
Can you still run those custom character things in 11th?
>>98539951That's still not how it works. Their perception of it means nothing, their rituals have to work in the absence of psychic mutation.
>>98539951Yea but we keep it under control, the Imperium should study our culture to learn how to properly manifest and utilize warp energy.
>>98539961>rules rollout via magazines.Not sure about that. The pre-2013 magazines were fucking awesome and FW seems to be doing the exact same thing with their journals on every single game.
>>98539448Tumm>>98539479Yum>>98539620Rip
>>98539994No.
>>98539968>that's what I was arguing and what you were arguing againstNo, it wasn't. Because you can deal with Warp entities without sorcery, it's called "being a psyker." It's about method, not results. Rune Priests simply don't refrain from their rituals, so whether those rituals are needed is unknown. And until a non-psyker tries to use those methods and succeeds OR fails, there is no evidence to suggest they're sorcerers.
>>98539962it gets worse the longer you look at it
>>98539874leeman russ sucks wolf penis
>>98539996>their rituals have to work in the absence of psychic mutation.They do, they deny being psykers and having psyker mutations, can you prove that their claim is wrong?
>>98539985wysiwyg isn't a thing any more. as long as the model looks recognisably like a repex and is the right base size the datasheet is what it is.
>>98540028>They doProve it>they deny being psykers and having psyker mutationsBut they are regardless
>>98539448
>>98540032Even the optional stuff?
>>98540032>wysiwyg isn't a thing any more.But it is? It's how the game will always be RAW.
>>98540043yeah. Don't worry about it. If you say "this is a repex" your opponent will know what that entails and will say "ok". The exact details of the model don't matter. Just note all wargear options clearly on your list that you show your opponent (the digital list builders like gw's app or new recruit are very useful for this). people generally model whatever they like the look of the most, and then when they play they'll try new things all the time. stuff can even be missing like in your example and it doesn't change the rules of the game.The only time I would worry about this is if you start a very long list of a bunch of proxies, that may just be troublesome while playing for practical reasons like clarity. but if it's just wargear options then don't worry.
>>98540012>Because you can deal with Warp entities without sorcery, it's called "being a psyker."No, when you deal with warp entities it's sorcery, "being a psyker" is when you just deal with simpler warpstuff, without making deals and pleas to entities.>And until a non-psyker tries to use those methods and succeeds OR fails, there is no evidence to suggest they're sorcerers.either the space wolves are correct about their own beliefs, and they are not psykers, meaning they are sorcerers by your definition, or they're incorrect about not being psykers, and they're still sorcerers by the same definition that makes magnus and all thousand sons psykers sorcerers.Either way they're sorcerers.And even if we were to find an excerpt about any other space wolf using rune magic despite not being a rune priest, you would most probably discard it as the guy merely discovering that he was a psyker all along, which goes once again back to what I argued in the first place: that it's still people with psychic potential that become sorcerers in the first place, not any random faggot.
>>98540072>The exact details of the model don't matterThis is how the hobby dies.
>>98540076>when you deal with warp entities it's sorceryNo
Why is all of this not availiable in a pdf outside the app? Better yet, why isn't it in the core rules pdf/book in the first place?
>>98540045GW basically killed wysiwyg in 10th edition. You cannot have free wargear and enforce wysiwyg.It's somewhat sad how it also has killed in many ways model diversity. Like there's zero reason to not glue hunter killers missiles to your Rhino. Or not to have sponson weapons with a Predator.
>>98540010why not :(
>>98540099>You cannot have free wargear and enforce wysiwyg.Of course you can. Even if the wargear is free the model has to represent whatever option you selected while making the list.
>>98540058you have no real friends and tie your identity to furry space niggers
I found an old receipt from 2023. I bought the finecast canoness Veridyan and the metal preacher in 2023 for my sisters.Veridyan was 20€ while the Preacher was 15.75€. A new plastic canoness is 34.50€ and new ministorium priest is 29.50€. My question is would you accept that characters models would go back to metal/finecast instead of plastic if they cost 50-60% of what characters cost now?
>>98540072Anon, if your army list says a unit has a guy with a plasma gun, and none of the models actually has one, then they don't have a plasma gun, flat out, too bad, cry more. Not only does not requiring this encourage lazy behavior and nonengagement, it gets in the way of trying to kill that guy because you don't know which one he is.
>>98539782>1 DP + 15 points for an enhancement for a single model, and it takes the unit from "just for fun" to "usable".So hate that. Shit should be both fun AND usable. They shouldn't be mutually exclusive. That's just bad design
>>98540043We're not paying points for anything other than the heavy laser option, doesn't matter at all.
>>98540109You are probably a guy who up until 10th edition enforced wysiwyg paint schemes
>>98540092It's literally what the codex says regarding what makes a sorcerer a sorcerer, they start as psykers already and become sorcerers by getting extra power by listening to demons.
>>98540117I should hope everyone does that
>>98540121But you don't need to be a psyker to do it. So until and unless Rune Priest methods work for non-psykers, they're nor sorcerers, and all Rune Priests are psykers regardless of how they see themselves.
>>98540095To force you to use that app?
>>98540109You are simply incorrect according to the rules of the game. You allocate wounds as you wish anyway, so what you say about killing a certain guy isn't true anyway. The plasma guy will be the last model the opponent removes from the unit either way.If you want, you could try to make the argument that making your guys wysiwg is a point of pride for an enthusiastic hobbyist. It's a nice feeling to have everything wysiwg, because you have put in the extra time to make it that way. If you want to make that argument, I think you would be right, actually. I agree. My stuff is like 90% wysiwg and I am proud of that.But nothing at all about what you said about the rules of the game is true. Wysiwyg has not been a rule for like a decade.
>>98540117NTA but I do question why you'd paint your models as a very specific faction with their colours, heraldry and markings and then use the rules of an entirelt different but equally specific group. If you don't like them in the first place just make your dudes and steal their colours.
>>98540109You can't specifically target the plasma gun guy anyway, just assume he dies last ffs.
>>98540130I want james to understand than I do not wish to be around electronic devices while playing with my toy soldiers.
>>98540108Switching to finecast would INCREASE the cost of the model, anon. Do you not know how GW operates?
>>98540133Alpha Legion excepted.
>>98540132Why would you WANT that to be how the game works? Who in their right mind would want that to be how it works? I'll tell you who, a cheater, someone who wants to be able to lie to their opponent about what unit has what so their important models can't be targeted.
>>98540135>can't specifically targetBlast template. >but that hasn't been a thing sincePlease, make the case for me that the game is worse now.
>>98540132It's not even extra time but also money. Like I have pointed out if you want to wysiwyg battle sisters having all their multi meltas you need to buy 6 extra boxes of retributor squads which is 390 dollars for your army to be wysiwyg. And it's because GW does not include enough multi meltas in those boxes. Many other armies have the same thing with boxes not including enough heavy weapons.Many people are not interested in spending 500+ dollars extra on their armies just to get enough heavy weapons for it to be wysiwyg.
>>98540147>Blast template.you're in the wrong general, granddad.
>>98540129>But you don't need to be a psyker to do it.The page I posted says otherwise: it's psykers that become sorcerers.
>>98540138>switch from pewter to plastic in a cost-cutting measure>prices stay the sameNot arguing with you, just proving your point
>>98540111I know where you live, you doxxed yourself, remember?
>>98539928We really need access to a handful of more units.1. Red butchers - probably won't happen cause HH2. Butcher surgeon - give them some more staying power3. Legionaires/havoks - at this point ill take either. It really sucks looking at your battleline units then looking at what plague marines can do. There is no lore justification to not have access to them. The writers can't seem to shake the 'lol mindless berserkers' meme4. Chaos lord/ terminator lord / mounted lord - SOMETHING PLEASE5. A mounted unit. Either juggs or bikersGod this turned into a faggy wishlist post. Apologies anons.
>>98540140So again, I will repeat that that is not how the game works. You write down your army list and hand it your opponent before the game starts. If you simply say "every flamer is a plasma" a normal person will say "sure dude" because it's not a problem at all. Any special weapon standing in for any other special weapon is normal, normal people don't have any trouble following this, and normal people don't use this method to cheat, accidentally or on purpose. The plasma is going to be the last model to have a wound allocated to it regardless of whether the actual physical model is holding a plasma gun or a flamer that is currently firing plasma. Neither rules nor how the average normal person plays the game actually support your fears.The vast majority of cheating in 40k is by taking things you're not actually allowed to take in the first place and your opponent doesn't know better, or by using cooked dice. You cannot actually cheat by removing the plasma guy last because that's literally how the wound allocation rules of the game work anon.
>>98540157Anon, psykers can be sorcerers, but so can non-psykers. That page means nothing.
>>98540138Then why were finecast and metal models cheaper in 2023 compared to plastic ones? It's not just sculpts. Old plastic sculpt characters were more expensive than a newer sculpt finecast character.Sure with infantry and like plastic is cheaper but for stuff like named characters finecast is cheaper, which is why GW used finecast and metal with those back in the day before they committed to producing everything in plastic.
>>98540137Unfortunately that makes James less money
>>98540164People commonly doing something wrong doesn't make it right.
>>98540140>Who in their right mind would want that to be how it works? I'll tell you who, People who don't want to fuck with magnets? People who want to run old models with the new options?
>>98540166>but so can non-psykers>>98540157Post a single proof of anyone doing sorcery without being a psyker.
>>98540163legionaries? lmao my hh eaters are already slated for serving as berzerkers in 40k as i want to eventually play games with them ;w;a juggernaut cavalry cell would be fucking nuts but the lords atop them strokes my itch pretty nicely, and they're very dank
>>98540135NTA, but that gives the guy a small advantage with positioning. I'd want him to have a special weapon or other distinct model to mark the plasma guy. I don't care if he says "all the special weapons at plasma", but since it can matter, it needs to be on a singular defined model
>>98540001> weHow easily you out yourselfRune priests as big of hypocrites as the emperorer.
>>98540175This. Or someone who built models in old editions with loadouts that aren't a thing anymore. For example in 10th edition index you could run a Grey Knight Venerable Dreadnought with a lascannon and missile launcher. But when the codex launched the missile launcher option was removed and you have to run with a fist.So a guy can no longer run their old venerable dreadnought due to this change if you enforce wysiwyg. Or I don't know guys who don't want to spend hundreds of extra dollars on boxes just to get enough wargear due to GW being so stingy with heavy weapons.
>>98540184>Post a single proof of anyone doing sorcery without being a psykerNovels constantly have Inquisitors/Marines/Caiphas Cain walking in on demon-summoning rituals where the cults don't have a psyker. Including one where the ritual was just "extremely synchronized sex".
>>98540187I'm retarded and forgot we have a mounted lord. I went off on my faggy wishlists and got too deep. Mea culpa
>>98538662> didn't drill the barrelsHeretical, anon
>>98540199I bought two Ork Warbiker kits at the end of 10th and just finished building them. You bet your ass the Nobs are going to have the rocket launchers the new Nob Biker sculpts get, even if I can't find the bits to make it "legit".
>>98540184>Post a single proof of anyone doing sorcery without being a psyker.Luther. Maybe you've heard of him. Kind of a big deal for Dark Angels players.
I guess I need to buy green stuff to fill in the front sides and a loose minigun/icarus rocket pod
>>98540216I also bought a Trukk and put the wreckin' ball on it, which the new model doesn't have. It'll "counts-as" a buzzsaw.
>>98540200>where the cults don't have a psykeryou have to prove that no single cultist had psychic potential at alldemon rituals and demon summoning, ever since realm of chaos, have required a wizard/psyker
>>98540221>The works unlocked his latent psychic potentialhe wasn't a non-psyker, he was a sleeping psyker.
>>98540223plastic glue some shavings of sprues jammed in the gap. mine had a big gap on that side, too.
>>98540167Cheaper for them. Also, some thing something costs of re-establishing resin productikn
>>98540167>why were finecast and metal models cheaper in 2023 compared to plastic onesLiquidation of old stock vs. new productionUnless there is concrete proof of resin or pewter models being cast in the 2020s, these were just being priced as low as possible to get some ROI before discontinuing the product line.>>98540223>repulsor vehicles already showing mould issues with undersized panelsI sincerely hope you just fucked up assembling that anon, because the alternative is that GW needs to get a new mould for that already. The repulsor moulds are not even that old, which makes it very odd if so.
>>98540223Sprue goo or a mix of green stuff and milliput so you can sand it
>>98540171How? The ruled in the app are free just like the pdfs. There's no real reason why those rules shouldn't be in the pdf too.
>>98540223damn that's such a weird build.
>infernus marines>flamers with a grip on the top>hellblaster marines>plasma guns with a grip on the top>eradicator marines>meltaguns with a grip on the topWhy?
>>98540216The whole wysiwyg just seems to be a way to get you to buy extra boxes to get enough heavy weapons. Like I wouldn't have that big of a problem with wysiwyg if GW gave you enough heavy and special weapons. Or allowed you to buy lots of extra heavy weapons for your squad separately like you can with Horus Heresy.But no they force you to buy useless boxes just to get the right wargear. If GW wants to enforce wysiwyg they need to either: 1 bring back points cost for ALL wargear like 9th or before 2 that you can run all possible loadouts with the box, without having to buy any extra boxes, so for example Battle Sister Squad can no longer use the multi melta since that box does not come with one3 For each army sell heavy/special weapon upgrade sprues like with Horus Heresy
>>98540163>Red butchers - probably won't happen cause HHDidn't stop deathsrouds.
>>98540254the primaris proportions are too fucked up for the marine to hold the weapon properly without clipping of some kind
>>98540258Primarisfag melty in 3...2...1...
>>98540255>The whole wysiwyg just seems to be a way to get you to buy extra boxes to get enough heavy weapons.Not really it's just logic. If you're bringing a squad with a plasma cannon then the model should logically have a plasma cannon. It's as basic as it can get.
>>98540242>The repulsor moulds are not even that old, which makes it very odd if so.iirc one of the first steps involves glueing pieces for the skids at an angle and it isn't obvious until a few steps later what that angle was supposed to be. Get it wrong and there will be gaps. I know I fucked mine up.
>>98540257True but they got a mega fan on the design team. Last 2 world eaters codices felt like after thought. The probably were
>>98540258I can kind of see it with the chest. But it pisses me off that the traditional plasma guns and meltaguns have been kind of squatted.Also fuck the stupid autoloader gear that they stick on every gun.
Local tranny mini pounds back door until ruined story at 11.
>>98540254hellblasters only have the little rail carry handle on top, not a grip for firing the weapons.
>>98540238>he wasn't a non-psykerHe was. I can't read the books for you anon, at some point you haveto do something for yourself.
>>98540279Oh, you're right. Weird that I remembered them having that.
>>98540281>He was.He wasn't, he merely awakened the potential he had.
>>98540242It was second hand in a bunch of really cheap listings and I didn't think to play spot the difference with what it's supposed to look like, I just saw wow cheap tank! There's a lot of issues but I don't mind
>>98540285I can't read the books for you
>>98540274bro wtf lmao bite the bullet and just let it be sealed
>>98540242Well I will say that the Pewter Preacher came in a new box that had year 2023 in it. Sure maybe it was some old stuff they had cast and they just repackaged it maybe. But it came in a new box at least.Also Canoness Veridyan was in the 20 something dollar range in 2020 while the plastic one was 35 dollars. Canoness Veridyan was definitely being produced then as she was released in 2017 and was discontinued in 2023 or 2024.
>>98540289You can't read.
>>98540302Anon, I can't read the books for you.
>>98540274wtf, why
>>98540274Why did they need to open the door anyway?
>>98540274Could've just left it in the freezer all day.
>>98540313you'd need to pry the top off in order to get a decent set of angles for a paint jobbut now the door and its frame are basically fucked beyond repair anyhow so even if the aim were simply making a magnetized cubby to throw shit in that's pretty much off the tablethe horror
>>98540252Because it gets you to use the app. And if you use the app then you'll see the things you can buy in the app. And greater than 0 people will buy one of those things, this making James money
>>98540299Then I'd err on the side of "the metal casting equipment was already paid for and the plastic moulding equipment was still being paid for because GW doesn't seem willing to invest more than a certain percentage of their profits back into the company from specific revenue sources."I can't give a concrete picture of the "correct" answer since I don't work at GW, just speculate based on my own experience in industrial metal casting and plastic moulding (which isn't very much tbf, but is more than the average).The preacher being in 2023 packaging is very odd all things considered. It would fit GW being ass-backwards in so many ways that they wouldn't keep inventory to even have NOS selling capability, though.
>>98540305>Anon, I can't readwe are in agreementYou also cannot post a single non-psyker doing sorcery without having to concede that he may actually be a psyker.
>>98540344stop ban evading
>>98540344>wake up>decaldipshit already had one melty>on his way to second bannuLike clockwork. Why can't you stay away from a place that hates your guts?
>>98540344Fuck off.
>>98540344Why do you insist on coming here when literally everyone hates you? Do you actually enjoy the abuse?
How viable would this list be for Grey Knights?3x Grand Master in Dreadknights (705p)3x Dreadknights (645p)3x Venerable Dreadnoughts (400p)1x Land Raider Redeemer (250P)
When is the decal man going to start an ork army? We need some proper XD posting
>>98540374its fucking insane, I can’t post from work because my IP range is banned, but everytime I opened the thread half of the replies are replying to deleted posts, and everytime I check its always this guy. unironically, what the fuck is his endgame?
>>98540390He can't even finish his Hellblasters
>>98540390Let me ask if my pro painter knows how to paint orks
>>98540382>Why do you insist on coming here when literally everyone hates you?Where could he go where that's not the case?
>>98540401There's no endgame, he's one of those autists that is banned literally everywhere else and has nowhere to go. That's why he clings to this place so desperately.
>>98540401Aussie? I had the same issue at one time, IP range banned while at work, a bit at home too. Don't ask me how to get around it, just fixed itself at some stage (and then work moved and haven't had it since). But yeah us Strayans get broadly diagnosed as shitposters and IP range banned while lolcows like decalpedo run rampant, it's wild
>>98540374Failed artist and now a failed modeler, how low can your life go?
>>98540412Talking like that is not going to help get rid of him, he's already got it in his head that this is the only place for him (despite not actually fitting in here). I'm sure there's some forum out there with the same level of cringe humour and faction "repping" in their culture where he'd fit in, it's up to him to go out and look.
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>>98540421Lmao, where are you getting that from? I wouldn't consider myself an artist and don't have my models attached to that post. I'm not the drawfag btw just have a couple pics saved
>>98540419We got ranged banned because of you ratfag
>>98538370Pretty much done just need to dry brush the base and a few other touch ups like the left bicep. Finding out the bigboss is a support character in the codex was the cherry on top.
>>98540454>WeNo self proclaimed ozzie would blindly assume any random Aussie is ratfag, cunt
>>98540334Anon I'm sorry, I can't read the books for you.
>>98537810Not sure it has a name. It's like American comic book style colored with markers.
>>98537395Thanks, I never knew. They looked so nice I assumed they were plastic.
buff slab shield pls
Why does the existance of the Iron hands make imperial fist players seethe so hard?Ive noticed this on more than one occasion that the yellow basedboys seethe about the 10th legion.
>>98543227Iron hands and their ilk would be the bees knees if the Red Talons and Sons of Medusa looked less like fruit baskets.
