Cathayan Incursion Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Battle March General's Compendiumhttps://mega.nz/file/tP5STCAS#4yDuu8WLk-Mn4Ut2pe7x7AWwxJmEjXW5cvV0xtwMWD4>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>98539433 >Thread Question:Which Chaos Champion had the most embarrassing fall into Chaos?
>>98547851you've managed to make this piece of shit even worse.
>>98547866I was thinking of you when I made the general :)
Why do Chinese names sound like random baby noises?
>>98547851Did you really need to do an AI recolour of this image?
>>98547925I have noticed threads with full color OP's get more activity than black and white or sepia thread OP's.
>>98547851trash
>>98547951Bullshit.
Skaven MTO is out
>TQOne of the end times guys became a champion of Nurgle because he fell in a cesspool full of Nurglings
>>98547851>>Thread Question:>Which Chaos Champion had the most embarrassing fall into Chaos?archaon's was pretty retarded in hindsight
>>98548019The book kinda made it worse since it was just Bel'akor resetting time whenever he didn't fall to chaos
>>98547134I support your ideas about cool and fluffy lists but you are straight up talking out of your ass with that W:L ratio against sweats because you were just "so good at the game".
>>98548005>MESBG MTO is out>reasonably pricedBased. No interest in skaven but I play dwarves in MESBG and I need those elf guard sculpts and that Galadriel.
>>98548005>>98548113How long is this up for? 1 week?
>>98548101I'm still waiting for that anon to tell everyone what makes chosen warriors fun in TOW.
>>98548122about 9 days
>>985481221st of September
>>98548136They're in a pretty sorry state in TOW. In Warhammer Armies Project they have full plate, 6WS and 5I for the same point cost. Warriors have full plate by default too.
>>98548186Oh, of course, but how fun a unit is has nothing to do with its rules or how good it is, right?
>>98548194How good being unrelated to how fun you might have a point but how can how fun a unit is be unrelated to its rules?
Greetings /wfg/Will be getting into TOW soon but I wanted to ask you guys about what's this Im hearing about the corebook already being outdated?
>>98548276I wish I knew, anon. I really do.
>>98548288There have been FAQs and erratas published separately that are now being incorporated into a new version of the core rulebook. If you're only getting into TOW now, this will not affect you as you won't have a copy of the old book. Said copies of said old book are still worth collecting, by the way. Someday, someone will want to play TOW as it was when it first released.
>>98548288No, they released an updated core rulebook that integrated the FAQ changes/tweaks. You can still use the older rulebook alongside the free faq's put up in the downloads section of the warhammer community website.
>>98547951Trying to algorithmically improve thread activity is beyond cringe anon holy shit.
Played a 1500 pitched battle against the nurgle chaos boys again. Snagrog grinned as he saw the Chaos boyz on the other side. Last scrap had seen his lads flee, himself dragged alongside, but now he had knocked the big uns heads round, ensuring they won't leg it without having a talk with his axe. "Dem nurgle gits are right smelly, ey boss?"Snagrog turned, glaring. A cheeky green from the big un made it recognise he had spoken out of turn, the boss was in no mood. Fortunately he turned back. He spotted the Chaos boss on the chariot on the other side. "Dat un is mine!"
>>98548288The one you can currently buy is fully up to date but there are plenty of the older rule books that would need the FaQ
>>98548355The battle had opened up bloodily. The trolls had killed a few of the knights, but broke and were run over while the wolf boyz and arrer boyz followed quickly among the piles of the dead.Bardok groaned. Typical of the regular greenskins to fail. The Chaos Knights lowered their lances, and charged. Despite it, the black orcs held, and tore into the knights, the great axes causing a bloody tally. Bardok attempted to end the melee and challenged their champion. A runic blade cut deep but with a mighty swing, the knight let out a groan as his great weapon tore it and its steed to the ground. Another challenge, this time met by an Aspiring Champion, tore into Bardok with his own blade, slaying the black orc. Yet, despite this, the orcs held, with only the champion and sorcerer left, who disengaged.
>>98548410Grimtoof and Morgrash (now delegated to a regular boy), roared as the knights had ran into them. Through incredible effort, they held, even when surrounded by the chaos dogs.Grimtoof slew the knight who pressed forward to meet him, but was cut down in the ensuing melee. Morgrash held the boyz as long as he could, but despite his best efforts, they fled, ran down by the knights after a horrowing set of melee.The rock lobber, having misfired earlier, blew itself up in its second attemot and Rumpbum the shaman was doing his best to beat back some chaos hounds.
>>98548355>>98548410>>98548427Stupid Rock Lobber goblins. Kino write up, keep it up anon.
>>98548427Having watched Grotfang get himself killed trying to end the Chaos boss himself, Snagrog bellowed with glee. The chariot careened into the big uns, tearing apart one too slow to move out of the way.Snagrog shoved forward, eager to meet the chaos boss. The challenge was met and the exalted champion, his two chosen charioteers and steed struck out at Snagrog. Warcries, howls and the screeching of metal was almost deafening. But Snagrog had equipped the 'ardest of armour his boyz could fit on him and the huge layers of plate deflected all of the blows.Reeling back at the seemingly unkillable Orc, Snagrog took a great swing of his axe, splintering the chaos plate and dealing two terrible wounds to the Chaos general. With this, the Chaos general broke and tried to flee. Catching him by the cloak, Snagrog flung him to the ground and plunged his axe into the chaos humies chest. With a terrible cry of pain, he was no more.A Chaos chariot crashed into he and his big uns but was fended off, only for another boss humie and his magic git running into them. Snagrog barged forward and met the aspiring champion. At full gallop, the lance split layers of metal as the dead ard armour buckled. Snagrog felt a prick in his arm, grunting. Tearing iut the lance, he swung once more, ripping a chunk of metal from the chaos champion, forcing it to flee. He saw his boyz having trouble with the sorcerer, and headbutted it to the ground."Boss, uh...i tink you should look at dis". Snagrog peered up. Dead orcs littered the field, with the mounted knights facing them. Snagrog had won his own battles but it was clear the field was lost.Snagrog bellowed, and with that, he and his big uns retired from the field.Minor Victory to Chaos but Snagrog and the big uns made up for their last match, taking all comers. Tad disappointed as if Snagrog had killed the aspiring champion, would have been a draw, but oh well, was a good scrap anyway!
I don’t want to be mean but the metal makes it look like it’s unfinished and is a wip. I don’t know how to keep that sheen and make it look like it’s not just raw dogged leadbelacher
>>98548355>>98548410>>98548427>>98548477The boys strike again! Feels like a properly pitched battle, the Chaos knights sounded like they were exceptionally brutal and killy. Snagrog killing the Chariot Lord was damn cool! Always a delight to see your batreps, thanks for posting dude!
>>98548492Gloss varnish.
>>98548497No worries, glad you enjoyed. The Battlemarch series im having with the dwarf lad will continue, Snagrog regrouping around a dwarf anvil of sort. Hope to play soonish.
>>98548492Who are you talking to?
Does anyone have a size comparison with fire forge/oathmark/ wga plastic with bretonians and empire hooomans?
>>98548113>>reasonably pricedoink oink paypig
>>98547851>AI sloppaNext time just post horny Miao Ying art. It would be less embarrassing.
Spooky ooky
>>98548555Enjoy your shitty Chink knockoff I guess.
>>98548649>oink oink
>>98548564Its official art
>>98548656that's been recoloured using AI for no good reason
>>98548669I see being colour blind has proven to be a problem for the first time for me.
>>98548555I will gladly paypig for metal classic sculpts. Enjoy your resin or third party resin knockoffs LMAO
>>98548725>oink
>>98548728>spiteful poorkek
>>98548739>oiiiiink
>>98548005The metal Queek Headtaker (I hate skaven names, they're so lame) model is currently going for 60-70 GBP on troll trader, with the resin model going for 40 GBP. GW is Satan, but the M2O prices are sometimes cheaper than what the secondhand market has to offer. Not always, mind you, but sometimes.
>>98548755I'm glad the MTO is metal. I got a resin Queek a while ago when GW was still selling it and it was unusable.
>>98548755The prices are what you'd expect to pay for modern GW heroes.I agree with >>98548761 and am at least glad that GW is doing their own metal models in a new run of metal rather than subjecting us to the god-awful chunderfuck of a mess that was the "finecast" resin re-issues of thier old metal sculpts.
>>98548761The M2Os are one of the only good things to come out of TOW, in my opinion. The chaos ones have been nice, that's where I got my mounted chaos lord. Anyway, I don't care for skavenfags, but I was bored, so here's a list of the other named skaven characters and what they cost on Troll Trader (in GBP) so that (You) can compare them to the M2O prices:- Throt the Unclean (older, not found in M2O): 17- Throt the Unclean (newer, found in M2O): 40-60, one available for 32 but damaged.- Ikit Claw: 30- Warlord Spinetail: 120- Thanquol (without Boneripper): 35- Thanquol & Boneripper: 70- Lord Skrolk: 28- Packmaster Skweel Gnawtooth (I hate skaven names, jesus christ): 55- Death Master Snikch (the older one): 55- Death Master Snikch (the newer one found in the M2O): 70- Plague Lord Nurglitch: 50- Queek Headtaker (older): 45- Queek Headtaker (newer, found in M2O): 60-90, 90 is still sealed.As for the other models available through the M2O:- Warpgnaw Verminlord (was this FW?): 175- Verminlord (older, but is in the M2O): 40Tretch Craventail does not have a listing on Troll Trader. Don't say I never did anything nice for you, /wfg/.
>>98548113>reasonably priced£36 for a Verminlord's not too bad, but God damn, £23.50 for Skrolk? 'Reasonable' relative to 2020s eBay scalper prices, but otherwise rough
>>98548806Tretch is the rarest of the bunch because he was discontinued early whereas 7th edition Ikit for instance was repackaged for AoS for a while.The 4th edition Queek, Ikit, Verminlord, Deathmaster and Thanquol are relatively cheap on the second hand market because they had a MTO run a couple years ago.So yeah, even if you miss them the MTOs at least increase the supply on eBay and the likes.
>>98548827Be glad it's just characters, when you want metal MTO units you're really feeling it. God forbid a whole army like those recent Vostroyans.
>>98548806Actually, didja know they're named after rat noises?
Decided to order myself some Dragon Ogres and a mighty cockatrice for my brayherd!
>>98548827I mean the MESBG MTO. IDC about skaven but the Galadriel is cheap and so are the dwarf commanders.
>>98549012Didnt realize people cared for MESBGyou people are dying.
>>98549014I am blessed to live in a country with a very active scene.
>>98548978I've had low usage of the cock. I think it's too opponent dependant to get proper use out of. Preyton is better against the players I play against. Great model though, so hope you get to enjoy it in games!
>>98549085Rules are temporary, models are forever. I really like the model so I am getting it primarily for that, but I do hope I get to petrify some foes when I field it.
>>98548978Excellent choice in miniatures, Anon.
>>98547951I can't even begin to describe how incorrect you are. You can't even do proper AB testing and even if you could you need many orders of magnitude more data to draw useful conclusions.
Finished the 4th and last artillery piece along with some crew members and the champion+banner of the fireglaives unit.
>>98549186Are those Fabizel prints? You painted them remarkably well, nice work!
>>98549186Nice contrast
>>98548978cockatrices are great! Fast, decent stats, plus a couple of ranged attacks at BS5!Great choice of mini, the Dragon orgres are also great, big models to draw attantion and deliver some damage!
>>98549199>>98549228Thanks.Those are from MeanManIndustries. Fabelzel dwarfs are much shorter, smaller and have the much older cartoonish proportions.Pic for references, from left to right:MeanManIndustries artillery crew, Titan Forge standard bearer, Fabelzel blunderbuss, GW dwarf warrior and GW necromancer.
A question for you anons. Do you prefer your armies to be homogeneous - that is to say of one common faction and same colours (picrel as example) - or do you prefer them mixed?example: a Cathayan army where some models are from Nan-Gau but others are from other places like Wei-jin or Fu-Chow.
>>98549295As long as the minis are painted well it doesn't really matter but there are stories of different companies and forces merging during campaigns so it is plausible.If you have a cool lore and fluff about the dudes being that way it is extra cool too!
>>98549295I'm currently painting a Bretonnia army with a mix of colour schemes so pretty soon I should have an idea of whether it looks good or shit.
>>98549289Thank you for the info and image, Anon. I have a sizable amount of Mantic Abyssal Dwarf miniatures that I was thinking of rebasing for TOW. Sadly, they lack the useful stuff like command bits, unless you print them.
>>98549348One brass rod or a rounded spruce edge , a piece of paper and some freehand is all you need to turn a regular dude into a standard bearer. And for the champion some special bits on the base. Skulls, weapons stuck in the ground etc.Now of course if you have a printer then a quick trip to telegram and you're well off to print an entire army for free.
if Grand Cathay is the biggest country in the world, why are they so ethnicly homgeneous?
>>98549454Don't ask question, just consumme product
>>98548296>>98548340>>98548391Thank you, kindly Ill keep this in mind going forward
>>98548725>third party resin knockoffsGet nice metal recasts for a fifth the price.
>>98549454Dragons ate all the brown ones. The rest of Cathayans evolved to be as flavorless as possible.
>>98549454To be fair, the guys in the lanterns do look more Tibetan, than Han like the rest of the army.
>>98549532lol
>>98549454>Asian army>Confused why they all look the same
>>98549454>>98549464Samefagging is pathetic. Also they aren’t. They specifically mention in the articles leading up to the release that China has many ethnic groups and they tried to represent them all with varied skin tones they chose for the models.
>>98549553there's lots of different chinese ethnic groups though
>>98549454>>98549464samefag
I'm playing my first 2k point game with Cathay Jade Fleet against my buddy trying out the renegade lizardmen rules. I'll report back later
>>98549549are those female beastmen?
>>98549574>Jade FleetHow do they transport the fuckhuge sentinels in the boats? The junks must be massive
>>98549454Because it's alright when the Chinese are racist about these things but not alright when Westerners want some kind of in universe logic applied to their armies. This is what happened when you get critical race theory infused sensitivity readers involved.
>>98549577Yeah, I'm the guy who's been using AI to gen images to then further gen models for a beastwomen army for 3d printing.
>>98549565the genesis of China as a nation is from the plains Chinese aka the Han, in a way the other ethnic groups aren't Chinese at all and they live in areas that weren't even part of China until the Qing dynasty like Manchuria, Hunan, Tibet, Xiang etc.
>>98549609I love your work anon, it unironically oozes soul
>>98549574>Cathay Jade Fleetisn't the gimmick of that army the use of Empire units?wierd lack of them if that's the case
>>98549596There are black arks and dragon ships so I guess there is a precedent. My head canon is the sentinels just walk along the bottom of the ocean.>>98549617I have a war priest of Ulric in the Jade lancers, the samurai guys by my cannon are state troop handunners, and my dark elf dark riders are standing in for pistoliers
>>98549614Fair enough.I like pretending that I know what I'm talking about.
>>98549348Did you also have them with these awful mold slips?
>Ypu can still get ghouls for a decent price Interestig...
>>98549574A LOT of AoS SHIT is see
>>98549717Cathay seems to have beastmen analogs to real world ethnic groups in China. The tigermen come across as being based on southlands cultures with Cantonese and Indochina vibes, the crowmen seem possibly tibetan since they live in the mountainous regions and have religious significance and there's also the monkey dudes who are probably like Xiang/western desert cultures.
>>98549559>Variations so slight they barely qualify as a tan on "ethnic groups" with such little distinction between them any two from one such group could be as different as any two from another, functionally making the models indistinguishable>This is the same as deliberately choosing to paint a demographically-accurate-to-modern-inner-London percentage of Empire models from what is supposed to be an ethnically homogenous nation with renaissance technology and travel limitations as giganigga Bix NoodsEthnic variation in China is like how the English used to describe the Welsh as "swarthy" and "dark" because they worked outside more and had less Danish rape DNA in them so tended towards dark hair colours. That's also how ethnic variation should be in the Empire, ie not actually there.
Any of you ever encountered "That Guy"™ in OW? I had my first ever recently and it was fascinating to watch.>4
>>98549609>>98549616samefag
>>98549780A guy I used to play with regularly runs 12 doomseekers.
Build orcs or paint a warrior of chaos tonight, dudes?
As a kid the only fantasy models i had were two boxes of those five push fit skeletons and a wight king, they were very specual t the time, wish i took better care of them
>>98549819I meant more autistic freakouts, anger, cheating, etc.
There were black Chinese people in china obviously they just genocided them like most of the other ethnic groups in their region. Kinda like what’s happening with ughurs rn.
>>98549857there were white chinese people, Tocharians, but they were genocided. They also converted to christianity.
Who even cares about this ethnic shit? Not like they are real chinese
>>98549835ORCS!
>>98549559Fuck off, they fucking painted nig damsels in bretonnia
>>98547851Goddamn Chaos Warriors breakin down mah shitty walls
>>98549910City* :D
I am beyond excited for the Tomb King refresh. Both chaos and Cathay were really well done but I am curious as to what direction they lean in for tomb kings. The wheel preview seems like they are going for Bronze Age Egypt historical, which makes me wonder what else could be included as I don’t know much about that time period
>>98549922>refreshYou have to go back
>>98549922Its probably just warrors, horsemen and chariots
>>98549938It's apparently just Horseman and Chariots with another Tomb King variant, so no Skeleton Warrior refresh.
>>98549974>Jav as a source Pls
>>98550009tbf I can see GW being dumb enough to update basic horsemen and chariots but not the 'skeleton Warriors
Optimal loadout for Chaos Lord on Dragon?I can’t decide betweenSword and shieldLance and shieldSword and extra weaponLance and extra weaponWould like some tips, or does it not matter and I can build it however and still claim its a lance when I modeled it with a sword?
>>98550028I have yet to meet anyone who cares, nor is it reasonable to expect everyone to buy 8 chaos dragons for all the options. Personally I would just pick whatever you think looks coolest. As long as you send your opponent your list beforehand, there should not be any confusion.
>>98550028Are you building him as a lord or hero? If lord the. Probably a lance or sword, no room for fancy magic weapons
So I'm reaidng on Warriors of Chaos...Chaos runesword+Deamonic Plate would allow a Chaos Lord to end up WS7 T6, I8, which is already pretty top from a top Duelist.But would adding the +2 Init Boon, even be worht it? the Runesowrd states tha the wielder gains the bonus, but if he's using his han weapons could it mean he can carry the runesword, get the bonus and then attack with his hand weapon at I10? Or am I bending too much the rules?
>>98550154*WS8, T6 and I8
>>98549922>chaos and Cathay were really well doneGoddamnit, I hate tourist faggots
>>98550188It's just missing the proper punctuation.>Chaos and Cathay were really... well... done
I'm so tempted to start a Bretonnian force with these
>>98549717what's the deal with the raven guys ?
>>98550188he's right at least about the chaos warriors
>>98550261What are they
do you think we'll eventually get a remade chaos chariot ?
>>98550298Bohemian knights
>>98550302Probably not for a good while, and even then I think they would prioritise a new AoS chariot over one for TOW.
>>98550346It's the same chariot, just need a square base.
>>98550354Considering they're doing a chaos dragon for both aos and tow I think we won't be seeing much crossover models in the future. Warriors and knights I can understand, rank and flank vs round bases have different priorities and all, but a whole second dragon? Should've just picked one design and released it for both systems.It's pretty inconsistent too because they're fine with custards being both 30k and 40k
>>98548631fuck yeah skellies
>>98550379Custodes actually sell unlike fantasy and Aos
>>98549729that's not amold slip, that's designed like thati also very much doubt steel molds can slip at all
>>98549837Worst guy I had would freak out and have a meltdown that invariably ended in him conceding if he didn't have you tabled or practically tabled by Turn 2.
What were they thinking.
First test horrors are done. I'm not sure if I'm satisfied. On the one hand, fully pink ones would be more coherent but at the same time, more flat. Going the flesh way would be wrong because I'm running a chaos soup and they would be too similar to beastmen (in colour terms). Maybe bases will elevate them, since I already pulled the trigger, I will run with this scheme all the way down. Cleaning, gluing and GStuffing them again would be a pain.
>>98549454They did the sensible thing and castrated all their imported chattel slaves so they couldn't breed
>>98550406The guy I had did not concede in my game but did his second game. He also would get depressed and pout whenever one of his units were destroyed, started barking at me to roll my dice a certain way, and ranted about how his dice rolls were terrible well after our game had concluded (despite a single misfire between 4 war machines with no wounds lost.)He brought a meta shooty list and seemed upset whenever anyone got to play the game. Absolutely fascinated. Why play a game you seem to hate so much?
>>98550420"Fuck yeah, Gyrocopters!"
>>98546432>>98546475>GW doesn't decide what's canon. None of the wagies working at GW had any hand in creating Warhammer. Their authority ends at the ability to sell models.>This. Bad lore cannot enter your games unless you allow it.I agree with you guys that forced diversity is pure shit but what you're saying has got to be the worst case of coping i've ever seen in this board
>>98550437Those look sick, I fuckin love the 2002 deamons. Did you pick them up second hand or have you been sitting on them for years?
So game wrapped at the end of turn 5. Overall felt pretty close until the end of turn 4. I misplayed my Jade lancers into a Bastiladon thinking I would kill it with the MW2 buff from the priest of ulric and rubber lanced. Other than that pretty much everything in my army preformed while the way I wanted I just did a poor job of supporting my left flank so I lost my cavalry and sentinel.From an opponents perspective the renegade lizardmen seem strong without being OP.
>>98550420if you build these with the rear structure from the bomber and just leave the bombs and the second rotor off it looks muuuuuch better
>>98549574>>98550545Thanks for the report, Anon. Glad you had fun fighting the Lizards!>>98549729Nope, not an issue with any of the Abyssal Dwarf line, even the resin stuff I was stuck with.>>98549739It is a great kit with lots of extra bits you can slap on other minis as well. Also cheap, for GW.>>98550420I like it. >>98550437Those Horrors look nice, good work Anon!
>>98550538Second hand. I've been buying them in small batches for some time, a few of them didn't have hands, so I had to share all the parts between all models and fill some gaps when I didn't have enough.
>>98550118How do you get that slightly blurred effect around the image of the miniatures?
will the Renegade Crowns army ever get proper official models by GW ? or are we condemned to forever kitbash for these ?
>>98550650Im pretty sure they're gonna get axed in a proper second edition.
>>98550650They will, but they will all be Foot Knight of the Realms levels of bad design and pricing.
>>98550437Really nice looking. Are they proonted or did you luck it on them?
>>98550650>condemned to kitbashWarhammer is naught but the hollow shadow of its former self.Back in the day we'd rejoice at any chance to iitbash we got.
>>98550545Individual model removal really does look bad
I've been churning out scifi terrain with my new 3d printer and it's been great so far. What sort of stuff should I print for TOW? What is the ideal terrain? What looks the best and what has meaningful impact on gameplay?
I turned to TOW because AOS is just about fighting on circles and 40K is so watered down lately. Oh wow, I get 4 options for war gear, cool.
>>98548755Learn how to image search recasts, queen is like 6-10 usd usually
>>98551102dont listen to the people who say you need minimal terrain because it interferes with the game. fuck them. fuck boring open fields. print towns, villages, farms, forests, mysterious ruins, all sorts of shit, if people have to do a little extra wheeling or squeeze their formation then so be it, thats the price of having a good looking tableas for what has meaningful impact, pretty much everything does. structures have to be wheeled around and disrupt charge lanes, forests and brush are difficult to move through, hills provide charging and shooting advantages, water features provide difficult terrain, walls block line of sight, etc. its nice to add a lot of stuff like that on the table because it provides additional challenges and obstacles, as long as you deploy both sides of the table relatively fairly (barring narrative missions like sieges or ambushes that have lopsided terrain as part of the story)for terrain files, myminifactory is full of good shithttps://www.myminifactory.com/users/tiredworldstudio/collection/hexengarde-urban-fantasy-scenery
>>98551155I completely agree with you on all points. But unfortunately terrain doesn't effect everyone equally. As beastmen, every single piece makes my army stronger against you. So you do sometimes have to make concessions for fairness reasons.
>>98551102Find the pdf of the 6th edition rule book and find your favorite biome, they had rules for terrain for each.A river is kind of a trap because it is easily the most dramatic and impactful piece of terrain you can place on the battlefield by far. It will bi-sect your board and the bridges and fords make critical points to fight over. Use rivers sparingly
>>98551257>Find the pdf of the 6th edition rule book and find your favorite biome, they had rules for terrain for each. Shit, I forgot about that. I remember loving those matches. We got that pdf in the op?
>>98550638I just focus the camera on my phone on the miniature, nothing more than that really, I am not a professional photographer in the slightest.
>>98550285They're Cathay's secret police made by the Empress.
Cathay could've been so interesting.
>>98550420>What were they thinking.they were dreaming of Kharadron Overlords.
>>98551512I unironically like the steampunk top hat dwarves...Only cool faction in aos
>>98551522Same but I don't like them in Fantasy and the gyros are retarded.
>>98550638>>98551471The depth of the area in focus decreases as the camera is moved closer to the subject and as the camera lens has a larger "zoom". So a telephoto lens held closer to the subject causes the out of focus areas to become more blurred than a wide angle far to the subject.
>>98551530Agreed
>>98550420Why? You dislike the idea of helicopters in fantasy setting or just don't like the mini?
>>98550188get with the times grognard. you dont have to be mad at new models just because you are bad at painting some details
>>98549609Nice
>>98550420they were thinking "thank god warhammer is not a setting for historic tards so we can make whatever we want"
>>98551577He's not a grognard. He's just a zoomer contrarian that probably doesn't have a single model.Real grogs (like me) are happy that TOW is a successful game and we get new models. Because we have all the old models in the world already.
>>98550420Would you have liked it, /wfg/?>>98551512Oddly enough they don't really fit KO either. They're much moore smooth, while the ko ships are a bit rougher and industrial. Also helicopters when their whole thing is floaty gas.
>>98551598Transports in a rank and flank game seems weird
>>98551593Warhammer was make by historic tards, tourist
>>98551522Same here. When AoS began, I started a KO army in the scheme of /mydudes/ I created and painted up for Fantasy. Still love them, even if the rules for being airship gunmen blow in the last two editions.
>>98551598God I'm so glad that never happened
>>98551617Actually I suppose it did
>>98547851We had a quick 1k game yesterday, Orcs vs Beasts.Everyyhing I set up for turn 3 worked, and his foot of gork only hindered his black orcs causing him to fail a counter charge. Absolute massacre I don't think I ever won this hard.
>>98551623Did the Mangler Squig and Ghorgon have a face off? Looks like a fun table, minis are charming too.
>>98551631Thank you! No the mangler got killed by 10 skirmishing Gors, and the Ghorgon helped the big Gor unit to destroy the black orcs. The pig killed a pumpwagon and a bolt thrower, the chariot ran over is archers, and the 3 minotaurs on the flank didn't see combat but made him play too careful on that flank. The ungors took the "tower" and did nothing, as is tradition.
>>98548005I bought Spinetail back in 2010 for 8€, what the hell are those prices
>>98551773Honestly, the TOW metal are priced much better than these skaven models. This is just GW knowing they can get a lot of FOMO money by doing a price that's a bit cheaper than the current eBay listing but not by much
Mostly done except for the basing.
>>98551891why does it have a beard.
>>98551896Because his grandma fucked a goat.
>>98551896
>>98551891what are your plans for the base? Just a grassland or do you have some other theme for your dudes?
>>98551935Grassland and flowers
>>98550397It's a pretty shitty design then. Had to make a complaint to mantic about it. They did sent a replacement kit... Which had the same issues.
You think they will ever do a MTO for older plastic models? I kinda prefer the older chaos knights and marauder horsemen.
>>98552018Yes, FDev did release old plastics as MTO. If and when they will release older chaos stuff is unknown tho'.
>>98552029>FDev?
>>98552031Sorry, I'm playing Elite Dangerous right now, lol. Freudian slip. GW of course.
400 points of Druchii : sorceress, her medusa bestie, and a bunch of city guard.
>>98551943hard plastic moldmakling it's a world of compromises unless you are bandai, you either get shitty details or jigsaw puzzles like gw does (and still some shit details), that big seam it's not excusable tho
What's the best way to make chorf hats? Are there any kits with tapered cylinder-like bits in them that might make a good starting point (I prefer to kitbash rather than print if possible)?I want to fix the Helsmiths of Hashut models to make them more like old world chorfs but the hats are a conundrum
so i know for aos there is a fan made cutsom warscroll writer tool that lets you write a warscroll in the design and formatting of the books. is there something similar for the old world that anyone knows of?if not i can always do it myself in photoshop, it would just be a real time saver if something like that existed
>>98552263Use this shit. Saw people using it to make chorf hats the other day and it looked great.
>>98552329Respectfully I don't know how that looks like picrel. It would look like they're wearing barstools for hats?
>>98552334Yeah anon you use it as a base to greenstuff on, not as is...
>>98552334Googled it. Altought I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere much more elaborate conversions that used those pins.
>>98552142Looks awesome
>>98552376They look like goombas
>>98551610made by but not made for
>>98551650This happens a lot in my games. People blame bray-shamans for being why they're broken but their units have a ton of things going for them even without magic.
>>98552263https://www.chaos-dwarfs.com/wiki/index.php?title=Chaos_Dwarf_Warrior_Conversions
>>98551257Holy shit I was wanting something like this for a while. Thank you anon
Spears or bows for a 40-deep Goblin mob?
>>98550261>>98550317These sit between Empire and Bretonnia design and timeline wise. I think they'd be great for border princes/renegade crowns/bretonian exiles.
>>98552667Regular goblins, spears or hand weapons since impetuous has a good chance of getting them stuck in whether you want or not. Night goblins I like bows, since it lets you goad them into getting closer and do something when you don't wanna charge through your own fanatics.
>>98552681Bretonian exiles don’t even have foot knights
>>98552695Good to know, I’ll give them spears. Thanks, anon.
>>98550650You are *blessed* to be able to kitbashDo you want this game to be like 40k or AoS where the units and unit equipment is purely limited to a product^tm?You do not know what you want, you silly childThat said I wouldn't mind some generic heavy and full plate armour kits that werent specific to either brets or empire
>>98552681if they ever do a renegade crowns/border princes army, it would be great for the models to be inspired by late XIVth/XVth century armor as an ideal middle between XIIIth/early XIVth century armor for Bretonnia and XVIth century armor for the Empire
>>98550261I intend to use these in my renegade crowns army, giving them warhammer scale weapons to make them fit betterThis is one of the few full plate kits out there that arent the teeny tiny skinny historical scale ones, and looks like it might scale decently w GW from the get go
I hate imperial guard players.
>>98550912>>98552786both of you are right, I didn't express myself clearly enoughhaving the opportunity of kitbashing is of course a real plus for whfb/tow compared to nu-GW's policies; gamers's creativity should never be restrained by corporate cynicism and greedhowever it's always nice to have official models for any army list in the game
>>98552818I cant think of any arms that wont look out of place with them.
we all agree that the bret foot knights look horrible, right ? but how is it that some of the other bret models look so much better ? like the questing knight, the lord on pegasus, the champion with banner ? were they done by different sculptors ? because the design philosophy used for the foot knights is so distinct from that of the other models I mentioned (also for the bretonnian dragon slayer special character which has the same toy-like look as the foot knights)
>>98552847>but how is it that some of the other bret models look so much betterHaha>like the questing knightfirst of he looks like dogshit, hes just experiencing the cheerleader effect. Second resin allows for greater detail. >the lord on pegasus, the champion with banner HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THESE ARE THE WORST OF THE LOT
Why they?
>>98552859Queer headgiver comes with a retinue of his harem of thick cocked rats.
>>98552861Please never use words that aren't in the bible ever again.
>>98552376>pushpins and skull bits >this guy Nice.
No matter how often I vacuum and clean there's always tiny particles of hair-like dust that end up embedded in my paint.
>>98552969You probably need to clean yourself or your pets more thoroughly
>>98552969Need an air filter for you work area and a small fan blowing air from top right corner of ceiling to bottom left corner of floor to circulate air.
>tfw in lore most chaos armies are lucky to have a single Dragon Ogre, as they're rare and solitary creatures>This means having a single Dragon Ogre in an army is the most lore accurate way to run Dragon Ogres>WAACfags ruined this I hate competitive and wannabe competive warhammer players (so 90% of players more or less) so much it's unreal.
>>98553043Idiot can't even get the FLUFF right.Dragon ogres when they go to war aren't 'solitary' they are literally answering the call of the Chaos Gods through a fuck huge lighting storm, which reinvigorates then and serves to rebind them to their pack. When at war, it's going to be a whole group of them that got called by the literal gods themselves
>>98553021
>>98552969Go to IKEA and buy a STARKVIND, run it regularly especially after you hoover & dust and for half an hour before you paint.
>>98553080I always really liked how colourful daemon armies could be. Sometimes, I regret going for a full undivided and black and gold scheme on my chaos warriors.
>>98553080>>98553021Certainly a creative use for the same Achaint ruins plastic kit
>>98553053No most of the time it's literally one dragon ogre being awoken by a ritual performed by a chaos warband you fucking WAACfag retard.
>>98553043It's very unfortunate, but it was really being abused. Dragon ogre shartaks could take magic items, so people were giving them magic armour and getting a lot more value out of them than they were ever intended to. Shame, shame on the WAACfags! The sad thing is that they all just immediately switched to taking 3 chimeras instead, so it's not like they even thought dragon ogres were cool in the first place.
Battle March boxes next week>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/eumgnilk/sunday-preview-wrath-of-the-ten-thousand/
>>98553120They should've left it, WAACfags will always find a new thing to cheese so by trying to fix some shit like that all you do is ruin it for people who actually enjoy playing the game the correct way.
>>98553120NTA, but that's wrong. Dragon ogres are woken up by storms — the larger the storm, the bigger the dragon ogre that awakens. Then, they go to the tops of the mountains and get hit by lightning to get their batteries powered up. After that, they band up and join chaos warbands, which they are obliged to do because of their pact with the dark gods.
>>98553151I meant >>98553111
>>98553126Wish I didn't already have so many bestigors and bray shamans...
>>98553126I've said it before but if these boxes just replaced the characters with just some actual kit these would be good for kitbashing material. As it stands these boxes are bad as anything more than a one off purchase. frankly dont care for battlemarch by itself.
>>98553126I wonder what the prices are going to look like
>>98553158A little bit more than a combat patrol.
>>98553157GW only wants people to buy one of these boxes.Since they have a lower profit margin compared to the standard boxes.Better buy up all the Wood elf battlion boxes
>>98553164>Better buy up all the Wood elf battlion boxesWhy? The models are boring. Much like how the army itself plays.
>>98553166it's a better deal that the Battle March box for the wood elves
>>98553094And that's a comparatively drab 6th ed army. 3rd-4th ed daemons were flamboyant as fuck.I hope to someday build a small one for myself.
Combat forces are better deals than battlemarch boxes.
>>98553188And that's the point, GW wouldn't want to give people an actual good deal. If the BM boxes were mostly good units, people wouldn't be encouraged to buy other, more expensive, units.Discount boxes must either have mediocre models, old stock or be very limited to be profitable.
>>98553163>>98553188We don't know; these are all old boxes and may be cheaper
>>98553204It was already revealed. I cant remember where though. I think facebook?
>>98553209No that was for the Cathay and Chaos ones which are all new stuff. We don't have the new BM ones yet
>>98553204I doubt GW would have different prices for these older ones compared to the Cathay or WoC ones So it's £108 for all of them
>>98553214Oh anon. OH ANON.
anyone have that meme of pepe as a dwarf looking up at a river troll hag?
>>98553163>>98553204>>98553209>>98553216Considering the Wood Elf one doesn't have £108 that isn't possible. Unless this will be GW's first upcharge box.
>>98553245>. Unless this will be GW's first upcharge box.Wouldn't be surprised honestly. GW has a history with mistreating wood elves.
>>98553245>>98553218>>98553216It's 37 POUNDS cheaper hahahaha get fucked doomers
>>98553256The Battalion box is still better deal
>>98553256Eh. Still not attractive imo. The other battlemarch boxes are also still kinda pricey, I wonder if they're priced with the price increase in mind.
>>98553256Maybe it's time to start the wood elf army I always wanted...
>>98553256I genuinely wonder if it was dummies or just the usual shitposters trying an angle. It was literally impossible for them to be the same price based off what was in them. Yet they still persisted.
>>98545555>>98553126Is it a Empire book box?
>>98553263It's $115 in the US that's a pretty great deal for Welves
>>98553273(Wtf with I just write?)I meant: "Is it a good Empire box?
>>98552969Extremely poor air quality. Open you windows more you slob.
>>98553278Better than the battalion for sure
>>98553273>>98553278It's an alright box it limits you more than the battalion box, but as a start to a collection, it's hardly bad
>>98553285They're always open in the summer.
>>98553275>named character >4 fuckin glade riders >5 wild riders because sisters of the thorn are horrible unless your spamming them in msu. >eternal guard (lmao) >Good deal
>>98553278It’s fine as a one of but I’ll be honest the character is probably really bad
>>98553291Then where you live has poor air quality
>>98553256Still way worse value than the Battalion boxes.
>>98553297NTA, been playing for a few months but didn't get a chance to play against wood elves (we only got some high elves) so I was considering starting them since I like elves. What are they like to play and how is their battalion box?
>>98553256>102.50£(~119.68€) for the Empire boxThat's pretty atrocious ngl.
>>98553242
>>98553368thanks anon
>>98553320Marry the fairFug the vantablackLet someone enjoy chocolate
>>98553320If you'd like elves, you'd be posting warhammer elves.
>>98553435Warhammer elves are fugly, I like them for their writing.
>>98553320Im too apathetic towards the army atm to really give a detailed breakdown on them im gonna be honest. Dryads, treekin, dragon lords, wild riders, and some small squads of waywatchers and glade guard are the most notable aspects of the army internally. Glade riders are also decent for what they are. If I didnt mention it chances are its role is either ursurped internally within the army or they just dont have a role. Characters for the part are fine to okay, with the exception of tree lords, dryads, and orion. Fuck Orion. Also I guess wild hunt can let you play a different way than wood spam, your hawks and hawk riders are good for harassing but dont expect them to do too much work. But yeah if you're not spamming somehting the army just isnt gonna be fun for you or the other guy, its a really high skill ceiling army where the pay off isnt really worth it imo.
>>98553458>Warhammer elves are fuglyNot all the time
>>98553464you're just proving his point.
I am convinced Orion is going to get a redone model. They change him every FAQ, buffing him bit by bit. It has to be for something.
>>98553469Now if only they could redo his lore where he isnt a lame shitter. Actually redo the entire lore for wood elves.
>>98553458If you'd like elves, that wouldn't bother you.
>>98553469They also directly mention him in the Q&A, which was weird
>>98553469Wood elf lore is such a mess and boring as fuck.Sitting on their own arses, being angry at trees and trees being angry at them, and most of the time they are just dealing with their own convoluted bullshit.If they want to fix it, then they need wood elves to go out and be more active in the world. But that goes against their theme of xenophobic isolationist forest assholes.
>>98553469dude looks like a literal beastman
>>98553490>then they need wood elves to go out and be more active in the worldThe issue with that is you turn them into either discount high elves or dark elves.
>>98553492yeah I guess he has a more normal "human" face compared to any beastmen
>>98553473You seem to be the only one bothered tho? I just don't post them.
I’m putting my Empire and Warriors of Chaos guys on their TOW size bases, but feel compelled to my Orcs & Gobs on older base sizes so I can play them in older editions. I don’t know why.
>>985534908th edition did that>>98553500And yeah they were kinda like that. I mean they were more ruthless than HE but they also weren't taking literal slaves like DE
>>98553564Are you going to be able to get games in for older editions for sure? If so no reason not to base everything on the older sizes and buy/make conversion trays for TOW.
I just painted this guy, he is still a bit sleepy.
>>98553320Competitively, you run wild hunt, stick the murder stag lords in your two WR blocks, and throw in a Dragon.Wild Rider champ tanks the challenge(lmao who cares) Stag Lord murders about 4 to 5 guys on his own, the Riders kill another 5 or so, at this point you might even outnumber the enemy, you chase them down. You also run a dragon as well, and like 12 man units of shit to hold points.But the truth is those WR blocks with a lord in each fucking murder just about anything they touch.
>>98553576A couple guys I know have old armies but play mostly TOW. Getting Orcs with shields to rank up on smaller than 30mm is unpleasant enough that I’m not going to bother even trying it with the HUEG new WoC guys, especially since I’m kit bashing them to be more Nurgley.
>>98553584>WR blocksLaughs in skirmish ungors with bows.
>Call game store that is holding box for me to ensure it is still there.>Guy on the phone says it is there and listed under my name.>Drive the two hours to the store.>Massive traffic bullshit and bad roads the entire way.>Arrive.>Say hello, tell the manager my name and explain he had the hold for me, that I had called him two hours earlier.>He smirks, his triple chin wobbling.>Takes a bit of some fast food and with his mouth full of half-chewed food tells me "I was wrong, that was sold already! But since you are here you can buy something else!".>Turn silently, leave.>Drive back home for two hours.Fucking bullshit.
I love fortified manors so much it's not even funny
>>98553769That store very clearly does not deserve your business. Was this the tomb kings battalion box? You may need to consider sourcing it piecemeal, one regular box at a time.
>>98553782It was, yes. My sister found someone selling it semi-locally on Facebook Marketplace and is messaging them on my behalf. Otherwise, I go box by box.
>>98553577He needs to be revitalized with the blood of his enemies
>>98553466hotter than anything he posted
>>98553775Impractical.
>>98553769Dude that guy is a massive piece of shit.
>>98553769that happened to me back when the lizardmen battalion box was released in I think 7th edition. paid for it in full and everything, went to pick it up and the store had already sold it to someone else. they did make it up to me by refunding me part of it so i only paid the cost.
>>98553769You are a better man than me, I would have called him a fat faggot cunt and gotten banned from the store for sure.
>>98553320Marry Brown (Lawful Good)Fuck Drow (qweens of sex)Kill Elf (chaotic stupid)
>>98553769Cool story but why did you made him sound so sexy?
>>98553855>they did make it up to me by refunding me part of it so i only paid the cost.wat
>>98553884They don't refund tips in the USA
>>98553842That he is. >>98553855That sucks but I am glad the store made good on it, if I read your post correctly. Hopefully you managed to get the battalion in the end and at the right price.>>98553856Letting anger get the best of me would have been satisfying in the moment, but I prefer leaving negative reviews for his store instead. >>98553882Pardon?
>>98553769Maybe don’t have bad karma
>>98553890>Pardon?I mean you obviously posted this for attention and upvotes, but you also went into such detail about his appearance you obviously found him attractive and it left a strong impression on you.
>>98553890>>98553908Perrymanlet on the rag again
Can you make goblin hero’s a proper threat to something like a dragon lord
So how do (you) feel about the square based way of balancing armies?
>>98553939No, but a block of goblins is an inherent threat to even the mightiest dragon-rider.
>>98553775Anons itt can't even be bothered to paint their armies, you expect them to craft a fortified manor?
>>98553953Do you ever get tired of just lying all the time?
>>98553950How, won’t they just run immediately?
>>98553942it is totally dispensable now and most would agree, and it was always a backward solution considering the issue with balance in TOW isn't because of underperforming armies but is due to over-performing armies. It also does nothing to fix the other major balance issue in TOW which is the terrible internal balance of factions. I really hope the SGS have learnt something from the past two years before going into the next edition.
>>98553942don't play balanced armies, don't care
>>98553942>dwarfs in CWhat?
Who carries your battle standard Anon?
I like those shields with the weird face but I'm thinking of adding a slightly more colorful shield with the lightning to about a third of the warriors. It might break the uniformity of the unit a bit too much though.
Would halflings ever work with goblins
>>98554321Maybe just the command units?
>>98554293Just some schmuck but I aspire to one day name my characters and give them some sort of short premises. Same for champs.
I'm not kidding, I think the new chaos warriors should be on 35mm bases
>>98554293Urglan Rot-Hewn, aspiring champion of Nurgle. The product of the abominable union between a Kurgan woman and a mutant of Nurgle, Urglan is a towering slab of blubber and muscle, and has carried the great bell-standard of Kotvuq the Purulent for a decade—longer than any of his predecessors. Many warriors have challenged Urglan for the honor of being Lord Kotvuq’s bell-bearer, and all have met a bone-splintering death beneath his morning star. Urglan’s origins saw him marked with Nurgle’s favor from the day he was born, as a constant sheen of rancid sweat drips from him at all times, and a pall of fever-heat afflicts all who stand in his presence. Whether across the Chaos wastes, into the lands of Sigmar’s weakling Empire or against the cowards that sulk behind the Great Bastion, the coming of Kotvuq’s Horde is always heralded by the mournful clanging of the great bell and Urglan’s sonorous chanting.Just realized after typing all of that that my pics of him didn’t transfer to my new phone. fml.
for some reason you and your army need to escape to the Border Princes to survivewhere do you settle?
>>98554554My Dawi will establish a hold - or die trying, to the left of Karak Izor, near Old Dwarf Pass. Coincidentally, that is where they are established out of anyway. My Orcs will happily roam where they want, knocking skulls and having a jolly good time.
>>98554554My Breyherd would relocate to that 4 way crossroads in the Kharnos forest on the Orco River. Great spot for the beastwomen to raid caravans and disappear.
>>98553942Like they base this exclusively on the 'meta' from the 30 or so dudes that play in Nottingham at Robs events.They have wild hunt in D. It's won multiple 50+ man events in the US (aka, bigger events than anything Rob has hosted)
>>98554719Believe everything the Dishonest Wargamer says. Or else.
>>98554329Halfings are one of the very short (ehehe) list of races that Goblins can physically bully. Since that's the case, Goblins would be insanely cruel to them, there is no chance for peaceful cooperation
>>98554321>>98554341It seems okay. Worse case scenario I'll just make two units of 15 or something. There's never enough chorfs anyway.
>>98554391SO TRUE!! Let's just keep making it all bigger!!!
>>98554788I don’t like the shields, they’re too artificial. They lack the crudeness or the imagery chaos dwarves should have.
>>98554817This pic really makes it make sense why it feels so cramped on 40k tables nowadays, the models have literally doubled in size! Effectively cutting the relative table size in half
>Entire weekend passed being stuck doing real life obligations>Mfw have to finish my august infantry unit next weekend
>>98550154Initiative is, as a general rule, less valuable the more of it you already have. A chaos lord going from I6 to I8 or even I10 (you can effectively get this much easier with Strikes First) isn't going to change much. However, that's entirely besides the point, because a character who has purchased a magic weapon is not allowed to use mundane weapons. Your chaos lord wielding a chaos runesword is forbidden from switching to his hand weapon. Therefore, he would never be able to benefit from the extra 2 points of initiative from Enhanced Reflexes.
>>98554877>stuck doing real life obligationsLike what? Not stirring shit, I'm genuinely curious about your life desu
>>98554824Chorfs are all but crude, they're master craftmen.
>>98553769I would be irate. 4 how round trip? I would have to do at least $80 in damage to the store in my way out. Maybe a couple hundred in top do they remember not to fuck over the next guy.
>>98554883Hasn't that changed in some errata/FAQ that you can now change weapons in every combat round, (step 1.1), including NOT taking magical weapons?Hmm...Nope, checking the Errats, it's only states to pick a weapon each at each step 1.1 if you ahve more than one melee weapon, the magic gets priority still stands.Still, we will struck at the same time or before most common troops and some rare/special units too, T6 and WS8 still pretty decent, with a 2+/5++ on top of that. Granted it's close to 300 pts for a foot model, but we're talking here.
>>98554100The block of goblins is sitting on at least 5 static combat res. The dragon rider kills the champ then runs away because it lost.
Battlemarch list complete and an extra mini tooWe are ready to hurt dwarves and Druchii
>>98555062Foresters of Avalorn ready to knock heads and make the Everqueen and Isha proud
>>98555064oh where are my manners, the rangers are joined by cross-eyed karahere are the elites, The Everqueen's daughter allerielle is old friends with our mage, so she often sends Sisters as a sign of her support
>>98555068And of course, Prince Lymacrion on his barded hart "Hubert", and Lady Slythwe
>>98555062>>98555064>>98555068>>98555074Nice job, Brickle! Looks great and done so quick!
>>98555076I am very happy with them. I am trying to decide whether to keep painting and printing until I have enough to have this army moonlight in oathmark 2 or to change pace and print/paint a chorf battlemarch list
>>98554895Relatives coming over and staying the weekend
How are undead doing right now? Specifically, how are ghouls? A ghoul army led by a strigoi sounds neat
>>98552847the bret models that you regard as good-looking remind me of the blood bowl bretonnian team. In all likelihood, future remade lines for TOW whether beatsmen, bretonnians or tomb kings will look like their blood bowl versions
>>98555237you're wrong, some blood bowl teams aren't very reminiscent of TOW; the Undead team looks like the AoS SBGL models, the Khorne team has models similar to AoS Khorne Bloodbound and and even Khorngors and we know that god-aligned beastmen dob't exist in TOWalso the Blood Bowl Chaos Dwarfs looks nothing like the Helsmiths of Hashut
>>98555256actually, you're partially right : some of the BB teams looks like their AoS counterparts like Khorne, Nurgle and Undead teams and some other teams like Brets, High Elves and Wood Elves looks like they're from TOW/old whfb.Blood Bowl is probably the only game where the design philosophies and languages of both AoS and TOW are simultaneously present
I’ve got 200 points leftover, is there a way to build a bunch of annoying goblin characters with that many points? What else should I change with my list? Trying for no orksOrc & Goblin Tribes [1811 pts]Warhammer: The Old World, Orc & Goblin Tribes, Open War===++ Characters [392 pts] ++Night Goblin Oddgit [55 pts] - Hand weapon- Wizard [Level 1 Wizard]- On foot- IllusionNight Goblin Oddnob [130 pts] - Hand weapon- Wizard [Level 3 Wizard]- General- On foot- IllusionNight Goblin Warboss [85 pts] - Hand weapon- Cavalry spear- Light armour- Giant Cave SquigNight Goblin Warboss [85 pts] - Hand weapon- Cavalry spear- Light armour- Giant Cave SquigNight Goblin Bigboss [37 pts] - Hand weapon- Great weapon- Light armour- On foot++ Core Units [503 pts] ++10 Night Goblin Squig Herd [106 pts] - 2x Squig Herder30 Night Goblin Mob [232 pts] - Hand weapons- Shortbows- Netters- Boss (champion)- Standard bearer- Musician- 3x Fanatics [Fanatic ball & chain]20 Night Goblin Mob [165 pts] - Hand weapons- Shortbows- Netters- Standard bearer [Da Spider Banner]- 1x Fanatics [Fanatic ball & chain]++ Special Units [481 pts] ++10 Night Goblin Squig Hopper Mob [146 pts] - Hand weapons- Huge gobs (Squigs only)- Cavalry spears- Huge gobs (Squigs only)- Light armour- Boss (champion)3 River Troll Mob [149 pts] - Hand weapons- Troll vomit- Light armour- 2x Great weapons2 Stone Troll Mob [93 pts] - Hand weapons- Troll vomit- Light armour- 1x Additional hand weapons- 1x Great weapons2 Stone Troll Mob [93 pts] - Hand weapons- Troll vomit- Light armour- 1x Additional hand weapons- 1x Great weaponsRare Units [435 pts] Mangler Squigs [95 pts] Mangler Squigs [95 pts]Doom Diver Catapult [95 pts] Goblin Rock Lobber [75 pts] Goblin Rock Lobber [75 pts]
>>98555277Nurgle and the undead do not have any similarities with the Aos te at all. I like the Khorne team so idk what to say about that.
>>98555293Blood Bowl zombies are pretty much identical with those from Age of Sigmar
>>98555285Maybe some magical weapons/armour? Biting blade's always good or a talisman of protection?Maybe a lore familiar for your wizards? Your heroes as prett ymuhc naked short of their mundane items.
>>98555133Oh? Which relatives? I always get to enjoy a game with my dad or siblings when they come to visit. Best part is because it's my house I get complete control over the narrative scenario
Was the ogre firebelly ever released in metal or was it always shitecast?
I have a large group of friends that only want to do 40K because:I only like 40K I don’t have a lot of money for two games No one plays TOWI don’t like rank and flankVarious delusional I’m gonna win a competitive 40k major fantasiesI think 40k is watered down and lame in its current state, I like the complexity of TOW. How do I grow the game? There’s a small dedicated community but they’ve all basically given up on converting anyone.
>>98555587You should choose better company
>>98555580Always finecast.
>>98555587Dude, just stay away from the old world. Maybe look into playing older edition or homebrews, old world is a whole different game.
>>98555587Convince your friends to play 4th ed 40k as a stepping stoneNo only was the lore better, games weren't this "I just spam X unit" crap, and armies looked like armies because of the force org chart.
Considering a Double Anvil of Doom Royal Clans list. Any obvious reason not to do it? My idea would be two large Royal Clan Warrior blocks buffed by Runesmiths and a Thane and a Dwarf cart as well as two small units of IrondrakesThen use the anvils double movement and armour buff spells for more consistency to get the bricks where I need them to be
>>98553942What's the difference between Grand Cathay and the Jade Fleet?
picked up half of the bloodthirster sprue on ebay for cheap and was planning on making it into a Doombull. Anyone know the size comparatively? I'm not too fussed but he has to fit on a 50mm base probably fixed onto some terrain since the model is usually flying.
>>98555587>How do I grow the game?you have to get 2 armies to host demo games. they dont have to be huge, battle march is big enough. but a lot of people arent going to spend money if they have all these preconceived notions, and you'll have to get them to try it at no cost to them before they might get interested.also if its 40k players, they have no long standing love for fantasy enough to overcome old shitty sculpts, so when choosing demo armies get something that has either modern new old world sculpts like the cathay vs warriors of chaos battle marches, something that has aos equivalent refreshes like the new ogres or lizardmen, or some later edition fantasy sculpts that hold up well like dark elves. dont try to sell them on the game with doofy shitty sculpts no one wanted to buy in 2002 and surprise surprise still dont want to buy today.the money thing is somewhat assuaged once you actually get them interested because battalions are legitimately great deals, and old world boxes overall tend to be like 1/2 the cost of 40k for an equivalent amount of guys since they're spening like $60 for 5 aspect warriors vs $80 for 20 swordmasters in old worldyou really just need to overcome that initial hesitancy and get people to try the game once or twice, but unfortunately that means you have to shoulder some initial financial burden and demo game organization. you have to become a hobby champion for your scene. if your group doesnt have a discord, it may also help to organize one, just make sure to police it and keep it strictly on topic for warhammer, no IRL or politics or whatever, that will cause any discord to degenerate rapidly and repel normal players.
>>98553942I feel like ignoring this leechattaching himself to every warhammer property. Absolutely soulless, content with no substance.
>>98556342a lot actually. they have very different army composition rules. grand army gets access to all the new shit but cant take core lancers if it includes miao. fleet can take core lancers and miao in the same list, but cant take any of the new units (unless they changed that somewhere else but i didnt see it in the FAQ). fleet also has different mercenary allowances (more mercenaries but a more restricted selection) and gets bonuses to working with them, and gets some extra bonuses on its guns and balloons. in grand army you either have to leave miao at home and bring a gatemaster general, or you get saddled with a bunch of extra warriors or peasants to fill your core requirements since you cant do core lancers and miao in the same grand army list. jade fleet can also take 50% more artillery
>>98556342"Jade Fleet" is Miao Ying + Marienburg combined forces in the Wastlelande.
Where are my Dark Elves in TOW, /tg/? You promised me DE in TOW this year!
>>98555587Just organize a demo game on tabletop simulator.It's literally THE perfect tool to get people into warhammer.
Why dont bretonians have chariots.
>>98556814Just put these on squares, m8
I oinked and bought some MTO skaven
>>98556946>Oh Most Dreadful Lord Khaine, protect us from the cursed male gaze, bless the all-covering garments of your devoted daughters so that males who look upon them may have not a single impure thought in their minds
I want to have sex with Miao Ying.
>>98556946https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burkini
>>98556870If all you care about is rules. The thing that gets most people into Warhammer is seeing cool armies on the table and hanging out with friends, surely.
>>98556946and I thought AoS couldn't get any gayer...
>>98557319In a vacuum maybe, but in my experience the way most people get into warhammer is peer pressure. That's started coming from parasocialism now as well.
New thread?
>>98557385I’ll be home in 45 minutes relax dude bakers have jobs too
>>98557401You middle-european have the time to post but no time to make new thread? baka
>>98557420Im not phoneposting a new thread
I remember seeing a section of an old white dwarf with a kitbash between bretonnians men at arms with swords and empire shields, and it was perhaps sold as a combined kit via mail order (I think the unit was called 'Border Princes Guard')Does anyone know what issue that was in? Or have the pic/extract?
>>98557035which form ?
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should I paypig for the skaven MTO?
>>98557842if you want those models, then yes
>>98557842Only if you're ready to be known as a ratfag for the rest of your life.
>>98557842buying MTOs is free moneyyou can always turn around and sell them later to people who missed out
>>98557842Do you want the models? If so the MTO will be cheaper than eBay prices.
>>98555062Looks amazing. How many points?
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