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>>98539433TQ: If I just get dropped in as a human I would say Altdorf or Talabheim
>TQI would try to go to cathay and have sex with all the asian woman. As a tall, strapping white man I'm sure it would be easy
>>98539183He corroborated it thoughbeit
Which one of you degenerates wrote this?
>>98539460>As a tall, strapping white man
>>98539433>TQEither a nice calm Estalian village where nothing bad happens or dropped in the dead middle of the Chaos Wastes to try to ascend to godhood(and probably die trying)
I like this new core set, but what I read from the rules its really similar to 40k. Yeah I watched battle reports and I get it, less shooting, formations, less tarrain, more melee, but can anyone who has played both tell me how does it feel in play? Slower, faster, more spreadsheet checking, less, more/less stalematey( I feel two blocks smashing each other would feel like this)?
>>98539433Northern provinces of cathay.to be as close to miao ying as possible.
I wish I could erase my memory and read warhammer fantasy books for the first time again.I never found a better material to scratch the adventure itch.
>>98539551>but what I read from the rules its really similar to 40kNow this is good bait
>>98539460In tOW timeline, whites are disgusting pig people, basically a few steps above beastmen. If anything ,Empire and Bret women THROW themselves at Cathayan men to try to be their third wife or concubine to escape the shit covered streets of the average Empire or Bretonnian village, town, or city.
>>98539433>If you were dropped into the Old World as a random civilian, where would you try to live?Pigbarter
>>98539566Is that on audio book?
>>98539573>newest TOW box is barbaric white chaos warriors fighting organised powerful chinks who have better gear and are lead by benevolent immortal dragon children while the empire sits in the cuck chairit really is a humiliation ritual
>>98539579>audio book
>perry into weird cuckold racebait fetishDisgusted but not surprised.
>>98539579No, but it's surprisingly affordable on ebay. Around 25-30 USD
>>98539573The Empire is canonically more powerful than Cathay.
>>98539551It's nothing like 40k whatsoever. While you're still learning the game, you'll have to check the rulebook to figure out what all the universal special rules do, but after that you'll barely have to check the book at all besides for resolving edge cases. There are no stratagems, list-building is much more involved, you have lots of options for magic items (even if most of them are boring and lame, because they built the magic item system on the foundation of 8th's), and while the game is slower (it's rank and flank, no shit it's slower), games progress rapidly. One turn can win you the game, one turn can lose you the game.
>>98539573Sure chang, sure.
>>98539631NTA but Id also add that while it paradoxically rolls more dice than 40k, I feel its less random. The less terrain is because terrain makes a much bigger difference on the game. Also, you don't need to know every army inside and out to play against them. You may fight an uphill battle against some match ups, but you don't lose games by just showing up at the table. The game has more strategic depth.
>>98539627so why does cathay need to help them out repelling some norscans? cathay never needed the help from the empire.check mate.
>>98539685IDK when you last played 40k but you roll waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more dice in 40k and basically everything has rerolls in 40k.
>>98539566Don't a lot of people hate this book?
>>98539703the book is great
>>98539517tertiary mutts get the rope
>>98539691Cathay only got a seat at the table because GW didn't want to launch into the GW and Magnus straight off so while the Empire is divided it isn't totally nonsensical for one pretender nation to need to bring in Cathay. Cathay is literally the next edition away from becoming irrelevant to the Great War once Kislev becomes the new lovechild of GW.
Reminder.Your Tzarina is now Polish.
>>98539778While I think exaggerated versions of russian tsars and tsarinas would make for better Warhammer characters than polacks, I can't seem to muster enough energy to be upset by this change.
Played two games of Battle March today, one at 600, one at 750 against some stinky stunties! We played scenario 2 (baggage train) and scenario 3 (village attack) from the Generals compendium. Snagrog had suffered a rather horrowing experience, being decked by a stunty slayer and dumped in the river. He snarled, reminded by the humiliation. Yet, despite falling, he had survived. With what little he could muster, Snagrog gathered the boyz to continue the trek back to the skull smashaz camp. With them was a makeshift rock lobber and two drunk trolls carrying supplies. But the Dwarfs had scouts in the mountains and caught them unaware!
>>98539778anything after 2015 is NOT canon
>>98539778the sooner kislev is out the sooner we can forget about them and move towards more entertaining and profitable ventureslike indians saar
>>98539806As the battle raged, the Dwarf Thane had sprung a trap with the slayers emerging behind the army in an ambush! Snagrog, eager for revenge, turned his unit around to face them. Morgrash Ironjaw, who had joined Snagrog to face the stunties, was leading the other unit of boyz, much to Grimtoof's chargrin. The slayers performed a monumental charge, barreling into Snagrog's big uns, the sound of screeching metal and groans of orcish throats echoing over the field.
>>98539810I consider vermintide canon.
>>98539822A slayer burst forth frpm the crowd, Snagrog immediately recognising him and pushed forward to meet this wary challenger. But the slayer was too fast, striking Snagrog hard and fast. Despite his meteoric iron, the dwarf was skilled, and bit deep in between the gaping gaps, dropping the mighty orc!The big uns, due to the catastrophic casualties and poor deployment (oops), FBIGO but bounced through Grimtoof's lads, the arrer boyz, right off the table!
>>98539725>empire ist dividedSo it is less powerful than Cathay huh
>>98539842Morgrash had watched Snagrog being cut down and was eager to prove himself! Calling a mighty Waaagh! he and Grimtoof rammed into the Longbeards! The Thane called a challenge and Morgrash met it. He levelled many blows at the Thane but none wounded, with the Thane tearing through Morgrash's defenses, splitting his shield and cutting through his armour. The boss fell, Grimtoof and his boyz broke and they were run down! Snagrog's attempt to bring the caravan through to camp had failed and the stunties were victorious!!!
>>98539855the EMPIRE isn't less powerful, Westerlund is retard.
>>98539631I see, that sounds cool. Are there rules for siege battles? I feel like this would be a very distinct type of battle for a medieval/fantasy setting.
>>98539863The second game, 750, saw the Orcs defending their camp, the Thane pushing them back! Now he had dead 'ard armour, two trolls and big un boars. Snagrog roared, he'd get to kill at least one stunty this day, by Gork! The Orcs advanced and soon, battle was joined, Grotfang's Big Un Boars charging full pelt into the slayers. After a horrific swirl of melee, the slayers great weapons wiped them out!
>>98539891Not yet, but there are several previous iterations of siege rules for WHFB and there are also rumours that TOW will be getting a book all about that eventually.Alternatively, make your own.
>>98539897Morgrash met the slayers in a devastatimg charge. Challenging their leader, blows were exchanged, neither able to wound the other!The Slayers held but lost a few. The trolls, having charged and devoured the Thunderers, careened into their side and began to rip them limb from limb! Unfortunately, Morgrash and the boyz cpupd not pursue as the trolls were in the way!
Why are most dwarfs retarded?Gotrek Starbreaker and Thorgrim Gurdgebearer were very level headed
>>98539912Snagrog's big uns positioned to face the Longbeards. However, they managed a long bomb charge, intending to destroy the core of the army in one blow! Snagrog barged forward to meet the Thane, calling a challenge. The burly Dwarf stepped forward, and with a mighty swing of his axe, its blade split through the Dead Ard Armour's outer layer, splintered through the under layer, finally causing a grevious wound to Snagrog, cutting him down (3 wounds, one AP-3)!
>>98539778Kek. True if big.
>>98539931The Big uns fell back at the loss of their leader, but orderly. The Longbeards crashed into Grimtoof's lads. Calling a challenge, Grimtoof met it, only to be split in two by the Thane! The Orcs broke, then were run down with Morgrash scattering to the hills! A final combined charge from the big uns, arrer boyz and wolves attempted to break the Dwarfs last block but were repelled! The big uns fell back and the arrers and wolves broke!In the end, the dwarfs stood victorious, ramsacking the orc camp!What a debut for Morgrash and poor Snagrog's armour didn't work with either kit. But always a chance to come back for anuvver go! May bring Bardok and his blorcs next and will pump Snagrog to Warboss! In the end, the Lomgbeards and Thane remained,
>>98539952As a final bout, we had Snagrog and Morgrash face off, my opponent using Morgrash, both with the same equipment from the previous battle. Both Big Bosses, Morgrash with heavy armour and charmed shield, Snagrog a great axe and dead 'ard armour. Morgrash had seen Snagrog fall twice and was fairly certain of his chances to usurp leadership. But he would learn Snagrog was no push over.Despite a torrent of terrible blows, Snagrig's armour held, causing Morgrash to wail in fury. Snagrog lifted his axe, the first time Morgrash's shield took the hit, the second cracked his armour, causing the Orc to groan in pain.A final flurry but Snagrog still stood. Once more, another swing and Morgrash was cut down. Snagrog was still da boss!So in the end, the only thing Snagrog killed today was Morgrash, but a kill is a kill!Despite the two losses, I had a blast but I am definitely going to adjust things slightly. Its clear Grotfang's boars and the wolves aint pulling their weight, so it might be time to bring in some extra umph...
>>98539822I don't get it. So much effort put into painting and basing the slayers to a very nice standard, just to have the movement tray lok like that...
>>98539980Just keep it functional really. He made some for me too, been a game changer.
>>98539810>2015Newfag
>>98539778Can't wait for Kislev being renamed for "Królestwo Kislewskie".
>>98539518>be some rondom guy over 40 trying to have some fun playing tabletop u like in local club/store>some faggot take a photo of u to make fun anon u prob look similar
>>98540003based
>>98540131It's his fault for being bald, obese, ugly and out of fashion. Looking good is a moral obligation, not a preference.
>>98539810End times was 14 wasn't it?>>98539840Also valid.
>>98539840Patiently waiting for the day when GW decanonizes the End Times and lets the world continue on in the Storm of Chaos
What is Miao's cup size?
>>98539433>If you were dropped into the Old World as a random civilian, where would you try to live?I'm pushing 40, 6'3 and muscular with a nice beard. So I'd try to find a mercenary company and LARP as this guy until people find out in only Weapon Skill 3. If I'm lucky I'll make it to retirement. If I'm really lucky I'll have a knack for magic and get to make a less dangerous career choice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvIca8J6neg&list=RDGMEM4HxGzhqcXtBC4eopibzeNgVMKvIca8J6neg&start_radio=1Reminder to play this when you field Cathay
>>98540342I honestly don't like the storm of chaos narrative at all either.Rollback to karl franz's coronation or archaon's coronation and make both the events of the end times and the events of the storm of chaos, parts of visions of potential futures that a few chosen characters received and now take into account when taking decisions and planning things>mazdamundi>morathi>teclis>wurrzag>luthor huss>grombrindal>mannfred>archaon>belakor
>>98540346Depends if she's in dragon form.
>>98540368
gay
>>98540411Such is the power of calisthenics
>>98540371There really isn't a need for anything in the End Times to happen. If we wanted to keep the events of Vermintide and some of the cooler things to happen during the End Times, GW could always just axe the dumber shit that happened at the time, keep the cool parts, and then say that Archaon was defeated and pushed back north. That way the obvious can still happen, but the world lives on for at least several centuries more.
People obviously don't care much about both TOW and ER narratives and are doing what they want so half-assed continuation Franzy Boy and friends would be ok with me. As long as they don't turn Franz brown.
>>98540342I think people will eventually realize that 6th edition was when a lot of the issues that would later cause the death (or rather, murder) of WHFB began.The Storm of Chaos was stupid, anon. Don't accept a slightly less shit narrative.
>>98540444any end time narrative that doesn't end with the end of the world is a cop out, so either nothing happened yet, or everything has to happen, including the end of the worldthe nothing happening yet is clearly the best option, but unless you make it clear that the future can and will diverge from the end times books, people will just keep assuming those are the inevitable future my solution is the best of all worlds: nothing happened yet, it's explicit that things will be different because we have characters with knowledge of those events that will work to change them directly, and as cherry on top to make the suits happy all the end times and storm or chaos books and novels have a form of relevancy as info the characters have or just as potential plot hooks
>>98539806>>98539822>>98539842>>98539863>>98539897>>98539912>>98539931>>98539952>>98539973Always a delight to read the further adventures of Snagrog and the boyz of the Skull Smashaz. I would happily bring 'Ardbad and Zoggit and the Kunnin Ladz to play a doubles alongside other gits, any day. Love the duel between Snagrog and Morgrash especially!
Damn where'd the sexy pic go
>>98539925Helps if you remember they are a long lived race with a unique culture and different perspective on both life and the world. The novel Oathbreaker does a good job of showing the mentality of a Dwarf and how it is both a good and retarded thing.
>>98540368Warhammer humans are bigger because they've been suffused with Ghyran and Ghur for the past 10,000 years
This Battle March thing, where you assemble armies of 400-600 points, seems fine for newcomers to experiencie the game.And yet I feel TOW would benefit even more if it had a (officially supported) skirmish game. 40k had Kill Team, AoS has WarCry and stole Warhammer Quest; so why not release a Mordheim 2.0 (except not in Mordheim, and not called that)?
>>98539703Yeah but a lot of people are retarded.
>>98540642You do not want GW to start fucking with Mordheim. Stop saying these things. Leave Mordheim alone. Let GW re-release Warhammer Skirmish. That'll be fine, maybe. If you actually like Mordheim, you wouldn't want GW getting its grubby corporate mitts on it.
>>98540642>Why not release a worse version of the best game GW ever made. But don't set it in the same place. Or call it the same name. Genius. With ideas like that, you'd fit right in at GWHQ. Or in an adult education class for people with Special Needs.
>>98540651Amen to this. Let Mordheim live in death.GW will just abuse and cast it aside after ruining decades of community love and effort on it.
>>98540642Plus it would be a lot cheaper for player to just pick a single warband box, assemble it, paint it and play, instead of investing on multiple boxes.>>98540651Oh yes I do. It's their property to use it, and surely there are still old folks on the team that would care for the skirmish game.
>>98540670No, you don't, and if you persist in wanting these things you'll be nothing more than a fool now and a regretful fool later.>it's their property to useYeah, and WHFB was their property to mismanage and kill, too. What, did you stop playing WHFB just because GW stopped supporting it? Do you even play Mordheim right now?In many ways, WHFB is in a worse state now than it was while it was "dead".
>>98540670>Oh yes I do. It's their property to use it, and surely there are still old folks on the team that would care for the skirmish game.It is their property, but I doubt anyone who made Mordheim good is still on staff in a position writing rules for the potential new version. They would pull a Nu-Necromunda with it, expand and change and tweak and price hike with new models and less content in books.
so what are these "renegade packs" people keep talking about? where do they come from? i've heard them mentioned online now and in my local shop.
>>98540717Fan-made rules updates for the legacy armies. They're made by a dude called Val Heffelfinger. He's on youtube.
>>98540632Then I look forward to how roided up I look when I start mainlining Ghyran and Ghur. I just hope I don't end up with heroic proportions.
>>98537313>>98537430am I wrong or GW changed something with the geography of the north pole of the warhammer world ?the way the Chaos Wastes and the Shardlands have been described it almost feels like it's a part of the Realm of Chaos as much as the individual domains of the gods and not just a part of the mortal world warped by chaos energieswhat I'm trying to say is that it's like GW is making the realm of chaos completely contained in the northern pole of the warhammer world (though still with its own time and laws) rather than a separate place for example the Forge of Souls is clearly situated on the map now
Why don't the TWW models use heroic proportions?Does CA not know that bigger hands and heads makes the models more readable from a distance?Are they stupid or did GW not tell them?
>>98540729Hopefully they start releasing renegade packs for non legacy armies that need fixing. Would love to see fans fix whatever GW can't be bothered to do right.
>>98540832I have a feeling GW would get grouchy if they started updating the "supported" factions. Those rules have to be imbalanced to push models.
>>98539778kislev is geographically the polish-lithuanian commonwealth (russia is chaos wastes), has 'praag', winged hussars, the name 'kislev' is obviously inspired by 'kiev/kyiv', there are 'ungols' and khan-queens and allaka they're an obvious slavic melting pot as far west as czechia and them having polish elements be played up shouldn't be shocking at all given russia's string of chimping outjust be glad they didn't make them more ukrainian and deal with it
>>98540866But it's the land of ice and snow, ruled by a Tsar, it's more the russian Empire with hints of Eastern European thrown in the lot to hodge-podge everything east of Germany together, the World's Edge mountains being the Ural.Chaos Waste is more the northen/southern poles, with Norsca being Scandinavia (Finland being Troll country)
>>98539778I'll polish the cunt
>>98540003Sounds better imo
>>98539653>>98539627>>98539588Buddy I didn't write this lore. I didn't ask it to be that way. GW made Cathay into this fucking enlightened powerful dragon utopia and made the Empire and Brettonnia a fucking joke.
Would a small Nordland force of Ulric followers survive an encounter with a Ghoul King's retinue?
>>98541167They look ready
>>98541173to be eaten.
>>98541178"HOLD" The chapter master of the White Wolf order yelled.
>>98541190is it okay to look at this with doom 2016 music playing?
>>98541190yelled* the chapter masterUnfortunately it was not enough for the men to withstand the massacre and they fled. The ghouls, too busy to eat the fresh meat didn't follow.
>>98541201The Tutogen guard and its Ulfric priest prayed to their god for protection against the vile poison of these degenerate cannibals and it worked. They suffered some casualties but killed many ghouls.>>98541198Of course.
>>98541190Slava Ukrainians
>>98541211The Chapter Master's knights died fighting the vargheists but he prevailed and charged the Strigoi from behind while the men, embolden by their lord's victory, regrouped and held a second charge of the Strigoi and his ghouls.
>>98540565I never saw any material to prove this theory, but I remember long ago one anon saying that the Grudge System was invented by Valaya in the hopes that it would help the dwarfs make amends and forgive transgressions, since they are kinda autistic it would codify a way to make peace, but dwarfs are more interested in recording grudges than resolving themagain, this is what some anon said, I have no evidence
>>98541236Sounds like fan fiction since it verges on making dwarves have some good lore.
>>98541221As you could see, the priest was now alone after every member of his guard died and the two reminding crypt horrors will end up devouring him.Surprise! The vile Ghoul King apparently bribed 10 Nordland men to stab their kin in the back and so the 10 men come out of nowhere to help the undead.Meanwhile the state troops couldn't take anymore and fled. The Chapter Master seeing his army slain and being eaten issues a challenge to the undead king. For Ulfric, for the Empire, he will free the world from this abomination or die trying.
we know chaos warriors are taller on average than other humans in the whfb world but are they as tall as astartesare the new chaos warriors up to scale with truescale/primaris marines
>>98541259Unfortunately for him the Strigoi cast his dark battle magic and the body of the Chapter Master is torn into pieces by a flurry a powerful slashes that cut through steel (and faith) with no efforts.The handgunners will NOT find salvation in their last salvo. They will be cut, pierced, chewed and trampled by the crypt horrors.Tonight was a red night, a bloody night and the Ghoul King is a feasting.
>>98541290?
>>98541236Grudgelore goes into talking about how the grudge system is as much a way to learn from the past and do better overall as it is a way to punish, shame and cause eternal enmity. Pretty fascinating read, honestly. I would upload the nice PDF I have of it if we still could do so on 4chan.
>>98541292Nice Battle rep, too bad for the Empire.
Want to get into TOW just haven't pulled the trigger just yetKnow full well I can reel in family members and some friends just got to demo the game out to them.Was thinking of trying out paper cutout armies but will probably lose a few of them because there will be less wow factor and don't have a tremendous amount of time to get multiple armies built and semi painting in short notice.l, never mind the dosh required.Has anyone tried using 10mm minis to play TOW and not changed a thing about ranges and base sizes? Would that even be a good idea, yay or nay? I do have access to a 3d printer via 1 friend that is interested in joining we just need to convince everyone else
>>98541492smaller bases would work just fine but if you have access to a 3D printer it really only takes a single $20 1L resin bottle and a few STLs downloaded on telegram to print at least 3 armies for the Battle March format (450-500 pts)
>>98539573Cathayans are slaves to non-human rulers.Cathayans are incapable of creating their own civilisation. Everywhere they go, they have to parasitise the society of their superiors: dragons, half-dragons, reiklanders, etcCathayans didn't invent paper.Cathayans didn't invent gunpowder.Cathayans didn't invent writing.Cathayans didn't invent agriculture.>>98539778Stop being Serbian.Kislev has always had Winged Lancers.Kurgans are the Russians of Warhammer fantasy.
>>98541586Forgot to include that crucial but if info which we will be starting out with Battle March. Do you recommend we mess with the scale of things such as measurements? I was thinking of just slapping a half dozens of 10mm dudes on a 25mm square and call it done. This of course a small project I can try and get finished sooner wrather than later and to have people actually play and roll some dice.
>>98539880It is in TOW, lorelet.>>98541597Uh oh empire fag having a meltdown that cathay is superior. Always funny to see.
>>98541693Just 6 models? I don't think you can play with that. I don't think you have to change anything, the game works fine regular stats and measurements even if you lower the base size. You don't need to rebase. The only thing that could be a problem would be templates but it's unlikely that you'll be playing artillery or cast vortex spells. And even then most of the time it'll be just fine.
>>98541597I always thought ruslims were chaos dwarfs. They even have steppe goblins as slaves to simulate the non-boyar population
>>98541746Heh, little buddy... Chaos Dwarfs are obviously ancient mesopotamia, so Iran and Iraq.Kislev are Russia x Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth without so much Lithuania (so Poland and Ukraine)Kurgan marauders are pop-culture barbarians x Kurgan hypothesis of Indo-European ethnogenesis which took place 5-6 thousand years ago in what is today southern Russia.You should be more careful, you're wading into the middle of some advanced shitposting
What are you working on?I continue to paint my xbowmen and I'm repainting a wizard (he's off his base so I can paint under the robes etc)
>>98541837Movement tray for my Swordsmen. Got one colour down, I'll letting it dry for the night I thinned the paint too much the water got the glue to break down and let loose some sand. I'll just put mroe grass on it.
>>98541837Working on my Cygor at the moment, slow progress but every little bit is a step closer towards finishing it.
>>98539778Based, polish mountain.gif
>no fun stuff like the organ guns, gyro copters or cannons Where's the fun in playing royal cłans? Pushing slow moving bricks that will always get outflanked?
>>98539778Is this supposed to be a bad thing?
>>98539778lmao does this upset you, Ivan?
>>98541746facts
>>98541020This:>>98540866Classic Kislev has very little west Slavs ingridients. For Poles and probably Czechs and Slovaks too it screams RUSSIA with ukrainian component in form of Ungols. Even winged lancers look more like Mongols with wings strapped on their backs instead of winged hussars (their armor etc.). If you read Something Rotten in Kislev (old rpg adventure) you can see 100% Russian daemonology and mythology, not a single thing that's familiar to Polish people. Even the name of city "Praag" sounds like it would be spelled by a Russian, not Czech. Not to mention American stereotype of Russians riding bears.GW would have to change most of it's Kislev lore to make it more like Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth than to say tzarina's other title is "Królowa Lodu" (which is a Polish name for The Snow Queen from Andersen's story - not some ancient title of Polish royality).
>>98542024They're for people that want to play norscan dwarfs, they're mostly isolated so they don't have the blackpowder tech but have more runic stuff that was lost to the other dwarfs. They also use longboats which could be a cool runic lamdship model.
>>98542123All GW would really need to do is change some names and clothing in new art for most people to go "western slav" enough.
>>98542123Snow is śnieg, Królowa Lodu means „ Queen of Ice „
>>98542123War Wagons are Hussite (therefore distinctly Czech) thing, but that's about it for "relatable" references.
>>98542146I know but for younger audience (since Frozen movie), Andersen's Snow Queen is translated as "Królowa Lodu" instead of "Królowa Śniegu" (so you don't confuse her with Królewna Śnieżka).
>>98542180I very much doubt GW knows or cares about that. Considering ice queen fits better. Your argument is not falsifiable anyways because it makes it impossible for them to want to have translated „ Ice Queen „ or „ Queen of Ice „
>>98540651>Let GW re-release Warhammer Skirmish.That's just the branding for the new Necromunda is so it will probably happen
>>98540512Thanks anon. I too would like to Waaagh with 'Ardbad fer a good ol scrap! In hindsight I should probably stop running straight at the dwarfs but alas, the greens want a foight! Bardok will be joining Snagrog's renmants in the running campaign against my dwarf friend.
>>98541492I'm doing 15mm on an upcoming project(Dwarfs) just using regular TOW bases and unit sizes with 4-6 minis on each base, it works great an is a fun way to make smaller armies look more impressive. 10mm should work equally well for the same reason, I just chose 15mm because I also do Horus Heresy in 15mm(though with that I do tweak the rules) so I can share generic terrain across both.
>>98541837I like that you bothered to source a whole kneeling front rank anon, great stuff.
>>98542157The Empire used to have War Wagons too though, until GW Flanderised the shit out of them and replaced it with magic lazerbeam carts.
>>98542242Adding fantasy stuff on non-heroes in the Empire was a mistake. Demigryph knights being the biggest mistake.
>>98540783You are absolutely right, they did change the northern pole. First and foremost they made it look like Total Warhammer 3's interpretation, instead of being a vague and ominous area, like the previous editions.The Forge of Souls is supposed to be located within a hidden area of the Realm of Chaos/Warp/Aether, according to Age of Sigmar, 40k and previously even Fantasy. Even TW3 maintained this lore aspect, so it's very odd how - out of all landmarks from the Chaos Realm - the Forge was given an actual location within the world. Although tbf TOW's world map and descriptions are riddled with inaccuracies (see Karak Dum) so it's honestly unsurprising that they'd do yet another screwup.
Where the hell am I supposed to fit a shaman on the Tuskgor chariot? The rules have both the bestigor and Ungor on there as well so I can't really get rid of them if we're going by WYSIWYG, but there's also seemingly no room on the cariot for a hero that's supposed to be able to go on there.
>>98542380A side point:I think someone should do a list/collage of all inconsistencies found in TOW's map, and compare (or juxtapose) them to previous sources & maps.
>>98542415>inconsistencywe call those sparkling territorial changes
Another rumour about upcoming TK releases>It's JavYeah, I know take what he's saying with a lot of salt, but he's not doing dumb poetry, so it's probably info another guy had before him, and he's just trying to get kudos for it.Nothing incredibly shocking here bar perhaps a lack of refresh for generic Skeleton Warriors
>>98542391Just extend the cart?Alternatively, have someone comically hanging off the side or behind the cart.I guess back when model was made hero replaced the crew, new rules make him an addition to the crew without updating the model to accommodate.
>>98539778Don't care either way but does anyone think it is odd that the already vague russian references, which boil down to Tzar/Tzarina and not much else, are the things they censor and not the reference to cossacks? Cossacks are easily THE most problematic group for leftists to handle, they were racist, anti-semitic, supported the nazis, genocided many Siberian cultures on behalf of the Tsars and even today Putin actively encourages cossack culture. They ended up being pretty much despised by all eastern europeans.
>>98542482Because cossacks = heckin heroic Ukrainians
>>98542511Cossacks weren't "heroic". They were murdering, stealing, backstabbing bastards. Pirates of eastern Europe but without any trace of romantic overtones of pirates of the Carribeans.
>>98542391Surfing on the pigs
>>98542391Extend the cart back a bit + add an elevated section there, so that the shaman stands a bit above the other charioteers (see the chaos chariot for ref)
>>98542442>I am hearing what another rumor monger already told us >also I can’t vouch for its accuracy so if I’m wrong it’s not on me tee tee Hate Jav like you wouldn’t believe
>>98542598This, the faggot has never said anything that was useful
>>98542580So Ukrainians
>>98541290I don't think so. They are noticeably larger than a man but not exactly the titanic proportions of space marines.
>>98539518This guy has an asian wife btw
I like Cathay
>>98542777L-Lileath ??
>>98542781Don't insult Tzeentch(she/her) like that.
>>98542777Me too, but I want Temple Dogs
>>98542815the jade one is cute
>>98542777Me too. I look forward to getting more models in like 5 years. I have basically the entire range already though, the only thing for me to pick up now is more cannons and like a second sentinel or baloon if I go insane.
>>98542856Assembling those sentinels is Hostel tier torture but they really look great when put together.
>>98542442Welf bros...It's over
At what point codpieces become slaanesh corruption?
>>98542870I think wood elf’s are next. I am certain they are getting wardancers, tree kin, war hawks and maybe new dryads in the next 12 months
>>98542877they are from the get go, but not because of sexuality but pride
>>98542815I find temple dogs far more natural to cathay than the hot air balloons
>>98540188Loser. Let people be
>>98542211'Ardbad and Zoggit never turn down a good Waagh with new lads. Consider yourself invited to the next one if you are nearby. Charging into the Dwarf throng is a proper brutal method and while not the most tactical and kunnin, is right fun and a quick way to the scrap! Looking forward to your next battle reports against the Dwarf menace! I'm actually starting my own Dwarf army to give 'Ardbad and Zoggit a "kunnin propa" enemy to face and for my friend to try out if he so desires.
>Game store two hours from me has a Khemri box.>Offers it to me for $200 USD.>Will not ship it, but says they will hold onto it for me for a week. This is Monday of this week.>Store calls me today.>"We have it behind the counter but if anyone asks about it we will sell it to them, so you need to pick it up."COCKSUCKERS. I'll get there as soon as I can, but I'm waiting on my check to be deposited into my account.
>>98543398kinda surprised an LGS thinks the old Khemri box is such a high seller since it has an out-of-date rulebook now
Guys. The tabletop community where I live is practically non-existent, yet there's actually a LGS a couple of minutes from my home.I like Empire and have no models yet, so what would (recommend) getting for starters?Also, it's my birthday.
>>98543398Do you really live paycheck to paycheck?
>>98543456A single box of empire state troops. While it would be better value to get a battle march box, I don't think they're out yet and that might be too many models for a totally new player to assemble and paint all at once. One box of models, some brushes and paints, a can of primer, glue, a hobby knife, a set of files, and whatever else the owner of the LGS recommends for a new hobbyist (take this with a grain of salt, though), and you'll be good to go.Happy birthday, anon.
>>98543423Everyone else in-store or online wants close to $300 USD and I have a soft spot for Tomb Kings as it was the first army I ever played in a demo game. The price seemed worth it for the overall contents, just annoyed the LGS is behaving like this.>>98543456Happy birthday. I recommend you getting some State Troops or Missile troops to see if you like building and painting them.>>98543459I do not, but I do have annual insurance to pay September 1st, so I tend to be wary with spending until I get that taken care of.
>>98542391I vote for>>98542584that sounds rad
do the updated warriors of chaos rules give them full plate armour like they deserve
>>98543528I don't think the new arcane journal is even out yet, anon. However, my money's on no.
>>98543528No full plate, instead they got a 6+ Chaos Armour ward save.
Is there any official examples of Cathay army paint schemes besides Green, or would I have to rely on Total War examples? Funny enough the Jade Court is my favorite faction, but I want to do more research while I'm building.
>>98543635The ward is better than the full plate isn't it? Mathematically? I don't crunch numbers but it's intuitive that a 1+ save guaranteed is better than a 1+ save that could be modified.
>>98542442> Not doing faggy poetryOh so he is in the same fag leaked group as the AoS leaker account on TGA.God I hate these fags
>>98543647no the ones in the AJ all have some Green in them at least the Jade Warriors are
>>98543658Yes, but full plate would still be very nice and giving regular chaos warriors the same ward save as chosen warriors is kinda lame and makes chosen less valuable.They already weren't worth taking ever, now they're even worse.
>>98543676Can you post more color pallettes
>>98543721These were the other two in the Cathay AJ
>>98543694I thought Chosen Warriors were meant to be unbelievably good under the right circunstances, certainly more than warriors.
>>98543647if you're looking for ideas for cathay schemes you could always just go look at dynasty warriorswould be funny if someone made a peasant themed army around the yellow turban rebellion now that the new peasant levy box and the foot wizards are out
>>98543694>>98543746Yeah I thought chosen had a role? And Warriors have furious charge now too so they may not be amazing but they probably aren't shit right?
>>98543746Who gave you that impression, anon? Because I've used chosen warriors extensively and I can tell you they're utterly worthless. Regular warriors suck, they're only good as a bunker for a tzeentch sorcerer, but chosen warriors are horrendously expensive and are still infantry, so they don't do anything in the first place.I used to run 21-man chosen deathstars. They accomplished nothing and would just get shot off the board even if I stuck a sorcerer lord and a chaos lord in there and gave them all the conveyance and enchantment spells they could be given. They fundamentally don't work because elite infantry fundamentally doesn't work in TOW. Now chosen are even worse because one of the only things that made them worth considering (the ward save) is now available in core.
>>98543748Meh, Dynasty Warriors left a bad taste in my mouth when they entered the age of DLC but not a bad idea to reference.>>98543676Dang. Surprised there isn't more but guess I'm too use to 40k and AoS showing different paints in army examples. Thanks for showing though.
>>98543753What role? What role could they possibly fill in an army that has an extremely competitive selection of special choices? What role could they fill in an edition that heavily punishes taking non-core and/or non-horde infantry? Chosen knights, sure. They're okay. Not good, but they can annihilate enemy units on the charge while also being obscenely durable. But chosen warriors? Why would you tie up hundreds of points out of your special allocation into a block of M4 infantry that your opponent can just avoid? That's just not how TOW or WHFB is played. The current meta is taking three chimeras, by the way. You're not going to be taking any chosen, chariots, whatever, at all.The only role chosen warriors fill is being a trap option for new players who don't understand how the game works yet. Also, I'll retract what I said about regular chaos warriors. They serve 2 purposes: Being a bunker for a tzeentch sorcerer and abusing the taskmaster's scourge and battle hunger to cheese out charges against other infantry units. How often will you be seeing other infantry units worth charging on the table? Basically never.
>>98542442Honestly, I believe it. GW would absolutely be retarded enough to revisit TK and leave their fucking decrepit 90's era bobbleheaded core infantry completely untouched, while also releasing several new units that necessarily have skeletons on them, only highlighting the horrible deficiencies of the existing minis.
>>98543799It's something TOW is pretty bad at in general like MESBG books have entire pages dedicated to different colour schemes, what Citadel paints to use to get them. I'm pretty sure HH also does this, and these are games with books that are the same length as the AJs
>>98543814Honestly, I love that people like you exist. There's nothing sweeter than the look of absolute, furious, barely-contained seethe on your faces when I show up with fluffy-AF lists that ignore every last bit of your received netlisty "wisdom" and just fucking piss all over you because you're so convinced you've "beaten" the game you can't really play it anymore.
>>98543799i havent played a dynasty warriors since the ps3, but i have fond memories of the ps2 entries, we used to play them every week couch co-op back in highschool. those games were timeless
>>98543835Anon, I run fluffy lists all the time. I'm lamenting the fact that a unit that should be really cool and fun to use is bad. You're completely off-base here.
>>98543770Ah, my brother chaos anon, its been a while. I was going by a guide I had read and my one off experience with Chosen, who absolutely ate longbeards for breakfast and tanked shots from a gun thane. Though granted they took catastrophic casualties from hammerers in hindsight. Still, you are speaking from far grander experience so I warrant yours has more validity than mine.
What's the consensus in this general, do you accept TOW as canon?To me the World map was the final straw, this is not WFB, it's AoS design language 100%the Chaos Wastes are not the Realm of Chaos, they are heavily corrupted, even time and space, but the Chaos Wastes are still part of the Material World and not the Realm of Chaosthat entire fractured bullshit screems AoS high fantasyI know this is kinda small, but when I read the Malus books, I kinda imagined the Chaos Wastes like this warped realm where you can pretty much fit anything, like a chaos version of the border princes
>>98543898Me and everyone else at my LGS don't give a shit and even the manager has given up caring about the time period TOW takes place in. It's a much different vibe from the 40k and AoS players including being very concerned about lore and that wizzywig thing.
>>98543898I don’t care for the maps that gw have provided 99% of the time so I don’t care. Anyways the mallus books are about as cannon as the rogue trader books are to 40k.
>>98539517None of them. That man is clearly someone familiar with sex and is not a troon.
>>98543898Fag, it's always been lore that the closer you get to the poles the more the real world/realm of chaos division breaks down and becomes fluid. The Chaos Wastes are all the large tracts of stable material land on the way up to the polar vortexes. That map shows exactly that.
>>98543875No, your own experience with the army is just as valid. I have a bad habit of writing very negative posts that people misinterpret. As a result of playing for several years in a giga competitive environment, I've had a lot of the positivity regarding my army hammered out of me. As it turns out, about a dozen of the best players in Canada just so happened to play at my LGS. Several dozen ass whuppings followed, naturally, and my refusal to add a chaos dragon (or 2 gigantic chaos spawn, 30 chaos marauders, 15 marauder horsemen, you get the idea.) to my collection meant I had to optimize what I could in order to have any amount of fun with the game. To be explicitly clear, I think chosen warriors are bad because the game fucks them over at every turn. They're killy, sure, but they won't survive long enough to get to kill anything. They're durable, but they're so expensive that losing even a handful of them to shooting (in an edition where shooting writ large is obscenely powerful) tends to make the unit useless. They're very customizable, but you aren't given the options to make them good. The role of infantry in TOW is to be cheap, avoid combat, and hold objectives. Using chosen warriors to do that is foolish.Knowing how to make the most of bad units does not mean I'm a meta slave, by the way. I resent that accusation. My army has a chaos chariot that's killed only around 5 models over a dozen battles and around fourty chaos warriors. If I were a meta slave who only used "received netlisty 'wisdom'", my list would consist of nothing besides lords/heroes on dragons, chaos marauders and marauder horsemen, chimeras, and gigantic chaos spawn. Thank God I'm not one of those people.
>>98543898Absolutely. I love TOW lore and totally accept it as an heir to glorious WFB.
I really wish (for selfish kitbashing reasons) that empire had a true full plate armour kit - such as a dual plastic kit that made either reiksguard on foot or teutogen guard (just swap sabatons for boots, add helmetless heads, add wolf cloaks and hammers)No, greatswords dont cut it, because their current kit has them in half half armour and puff n slash
>>98543968Print them you fucking cock obsessed anal void hole.
>>98543991No, I long for glorious plastic and resin is brittle and ickly
>>98543898>the Chaos Wastes are not the Realm of Chaoswalk enough and you end up in the realm of the gods, that's always been the case
>that part in the Warhammer mmo where you can reach the Chaos Wastes and assault that citadel>Everyone is going insane at that point.
>mfw my Wood Elf Battalion arrived todayTime to cleanse the forests or die trying (probably the latter)
>>98544096I would imagine assaulting The Inevitable City would be a lot more maddening.
>>98542907After seeing that Chaos dragon I'm begging for a forest dragon that doubles as a Sisters of Twilight kit
>>98544107There were a tons of nods to Warhammer Fantasy lore looking back on it from the quests and environmental design. But at its heart it was a pvp mmo so everyone was trying to beat each other's heads in in the pvp lakes, namely Human Bright Wizards and Dark Elf Sorceresses.
>>98540651I never understood this persepctive, surely the people who currently play mordheim will just continue to play the version they prefer. The only way a new version can be harmful is if it took players away from the old version, but if all the current players prefer the old version, why would they move to the new version? And it's not like mordheim sees much of an influx of new players so it isn't an issue of preventing new blood from playing the older system.
>>98544136After seeing the chaos dragon I’m going to stick to converting my own characters
>>98543951Edmonton/Calgary?
>>98542870Welfs are getting the squat and being ported (back?) to AoS according to boole.
You schizo mfers better stay away from Los Angeles.
>>98544166A LYING BOOLE FLEW OVER MY HOUSE!
>>98543898I love how peoplw act is if WHFB had concrete, intractable, lore and TOW is just sitting all over it when in actuality WHFB lore was vague, subject to change every other edition, and had no greater vision behind it.
>>98544145Because it happened to my group, anon. They were keeping 6th alive for years. Then, whoops, TOW comes out, and nobody plays 6th.You don't know what it's like. You'll learn, though.
>>98540642What like full tilt? Gws games are dogshit, personally I find battlemarch just a waste of effort that could have been put towards making the full game actually have a narrative focus but noooo we needed to make the absolute worst fucking way to play the game possible instead.
Also for fucks fake, mordheim isn’t even that good to begin with, the community added some nice changes but even then it’s absolutely not a good game that can stand on its own. I’m not a fanatic for mordheim or its supplements so I can say with clear mind that it’s only people who only care for familiar name to be around rather than people actually interested in the game.
>>98540664GW released only 2 good games: mesbg 2e and adeptus titanicus
>>98544243So the people who were playing to 6th switched to TOW? Why would they do that if they enjoyed 6th more? If it was because not enough people played 6th, then doesn't that mean they were also only playing 6th because that's what most people played?
>>98544166AoS is getting squatted according to Boole
>>98544300Yeah its going from age of sigmar to age of fantasy.
>gw games are dogshit>everything gw puts out sucks>I spend my free time here anyways because ???Mental illness
>>98544293Because it's easier, anon. The path of least resistance. Even now, they still say 6th is better. They still want to play 6th. But they don't, because TOW is what's current. It's what's in, man! It's new! It's what everyone's playing! So, they don't play 6th, or 7th, or 8th, or any other edition, even if those editions are better than TOW.The fact you're even asking these questions means it hasn't happened to you yet and you don't know what it's like.You'll find out!
If a Stormcast Eternal and a Grail Knight fight, who mogs whom ?
>>98544293why are people using windows 11 when windows 10 is better ( I mean its not, but compared to 11 it is).
>>98544337A grail knight cant fight without his horse inserted inside of him.
>>98544337Based on stats and lore, Grail Knights still mog any given stormcast except for named ones. Stormcasts still regularly die to fodder enemies.
>>98544331People play TOW not because it's new but because it's SUPPORTED by GW, and that means new models, rules and lore. And it's supported as long as people keep buying TOW stuff. So it's a loop.
>>98544342A Stormcast canonically cannot fight without Sigmar inserted inside of him
>>98544348>means new modelsPlease God no.
>>98544356Its not gay to fight with your lord and savior in your heart and mind.
>>98544356kek, that's truesigmarlets btfo
>>98544348That's true, but that changes nothing about the substance of my post.
>>98544331Genuinely why would you want to play 6th over TOW? The only thing I think that is better is the magic phase, and even then that depends on if you like the minigame or not. The current magic system doesn't grind the game to a halt like the old complex system did. The binary break/hold of 6th edition is so much worse than the FBIGO back and forth press that simulates a battle better and is less swingy. That alone makes TOW superior to 6th imo but I am open to hearing arguments.
>>98544384>Genuinely why would you want to play 6th over TOWIm not white so I like actual flavor on my food for one.
Alright anons, I'm starting High Elves with a shiny new printer setup.Give me your top 3 units and I'll see what magic I can whip up this weekend.I'm already rocking some Sea Guard, a mother fucking bolt thrower, some Silver helms, and a couple badass hq models.
>>98544391Im honestly curious what blood dragons would look like if they werent discount blood dragons.
>>98544384Why would you play 6th when 7th, which is basically 6.5 fixed, exists?
>>98544394Dragon guard, or princes, I forget their stupid names.
What's the consensus within the grognard community on using AoS figures with your Old World armies? Will you get stink-eyed and sperged at?
>>98544394Dragon Princes are based AF. Top of the list. I already found some cool alt stuff but I'll see what else is around.
>>98544420People on the internet will probably sperg out, people IRL will probably like it as long as you make it look good. No hard rule. Personally I await the day when I actually see stormcast ogres live, it will be funny.
>>98544420Same as 3d printing except you're swiping harder. In 40k if its anything recent you're just a paypiggy since the sculpts are all monopose slop whereas the older sculpts are flexible, encourage kitbashing and heckin' cool.
>>98544420Some models fit TOW well, some don't. If you can find a sweetspot, you're good.
>>9854442010/10 in Albion
>>98543898I'm the author of >>98540783I think you're right, it definitively feels like they've changed something with the geography of the Wastes to make it feel even more otherwordly than before, almost like a part of the Realm of Chaos or a dimension in its own right
>>98544384The presence of the magic phase, the presence of actual spell lores, better (as in more interesting) army rules (the marks of chaos in TOW are an insult, the fact that half the armies in the game are unsupported is an even graver insult), incomparably superior (as in more interesting) magic items, and at the very least the pretense of more options. 6th edition has problems (cavhammer, monsters being bad, disgustingly unbalanced options in otherwise fine army books, etc.), but I've played it and I like it better than TOW. The loss of the magic phase was catastrophic for my enjoyment of the game. I don't care if FBIGO makes combats less swingy when one quarter of the game was torn out and replaced with a laughably inadequate substitute. I find it difficult to describe how much I hate how magic works in TOW. It's not fun. It's not magical. It's boring. If FBIGO is your only reason for preferring TOW, house-rule it into 6th. That'd be a fuck of a lot easier than completely changing TOW's pathetic excuse for a magic system.Regarding the army rules in particular, TOW's army books (or rather, army pamphlets) are reason enough to hate the edition. They suck, anon. Arcane Journals were a mistake. They're either utterly useless and change nothing or they break the game.Also, casting spells absolutely grinds the game to a halt in TOW. It does so several times over the course of every turn, in fact, and more so than in any other edition because there's no reason not to try to cast every spell your wizards can possibly cast every single turn. In 6th, at least you had power and dispel dice, as well as a much harsher miscast table, as limiters to how long the magic phase could last.Finally, if people didn't like the magic "minigame", too bad. The sins of 8th did not justify removing the magic phase. Shooting is a minigame, does that mean it should be removed from the game? Combat is a minigame too, should we remove combat from the game?6th was better.
>>98544420Is it bad that her thong kinda gets me erect.
>>98544420As long as it fits on a Giant base, it's fine as just a giant. Even if you want to run one of the Mega-Gargant things, there are rules for the Bonegrinder Giant. Just use those.
What units do you put your runesmith in? I feel like the more elite units don't need more AP than they usually have, but a large block of warriors could use the bump. On the other hand it feels like a waste of his melee potential but 10-12 quarrelers or ranges sitting in the backfield and sniping with armor bane 4 sounds like it could do some damage.It's weird coming over from an older edition and seeing a runesmith do more than be a weaker thane that helps you dispell stuff.
>>98544504Magic phase sucked. TOW magic is handled far superior.
>>98544420it's only a problem when you use stormcasts, idoneth, kharadron, and lumineth
>>98544553I honestly think its gotten worse with the new changes, more shit to track.
>>98544561>luminethDont tell that to brickle faggot.
>>98544508What is it with Giants wearing thongs?
>>98544391Alarielle.
>>98544553Incorrect and wrong and gay and the new arcane journal is only going to make TOW's magic system even more shit. Now it's even slower and more cumbersome than the old one without any of the spells actually doing anything interesting!>>98544384Also, as it wouldn't fit in my first post: 6th has better rules for CR, a better S/T table (separating AP from S was retarded and has contributed to special rule bloat) and more interesting army building rules (while encouraging MSU can be seen as a flaw, it's not like TOW hasn't already degenerated into MSUfest despite the percentage-based requirements). Furthermore, 6th hasn't been ruined with idiotic FAQs and erratas and arcane journals that can, seemingly on a whim, make fun units worthless (khorne chaos marauders with flails used to be really cool, now they don't exist) or shit up the game by adding fuck-busted armies or by magically making seemingly simple rules (regeneration) cause stupid arguments. 6th didn't have monstrously conjoined rider and monster profiles either, which I will remind you is the exact reason why dragons and monsters are super strong when someone is riding them and utterly unusable when they're on their own.And you know what? 6th had better USRs too. It had better spell lores, even disregarding the system used to cast said spells, it had better magic items, and I even kinda like 6th's retarded double movement don't measure charges! They make people play like pussies in tournaments, but I like them! 6th even had siege rules right in the core rulebook! 6th has better expansions, too!6th is just better! It's a complete experience. Your army won't get invalidated by FAQs/erratas, there's been over 20 years of fan comp, the books themselves are nicer to read and collect, it's just better.
>>98544582They're just a baby girl.
>>98544504>>98544639Amazing how you wrote so much only to not really say anything other than " FBIGO isn't good" and " I like the old magic phase " and " the old army rules were better "
>>98544683Now now, if you would actually read my posts you'd know I also said separating AP from S, the changes to CR (and by consequences close order/open order nonsense), combined profiles, and arcane journals were bad too.
>>98544420AOS used wfb figures for years and some factions are still doing it, while some other based their entire styles around one wfb unit. Some other factions are completly different and it shows almost immediatly. I don't think people are getting upset if you use the new stone trolls, saurus warriors, black knights or stormvermins, but as the other anon said, kharadrons, idoneth, stormcasts or the new chaos dwarfs are just too alien to fit the setting, even as proxy
>>98544683Also, the post that started this whole discussion can be summed up as "I dislike the old magic phase" and "FBIGO good".
Do any girls play TOW? I see them painting once in awhile but only AoS and that's for the mentally ill (bad).
>>98544639As someone that plays both:>ToW CR is fine>AP being tied to S was easier to follow and I prefer it, but I could see how lowering how widely available it is make tanky units less of a waste of points>I like old army books and think they're better balanced but I like how in the new ones, most characters can do more than just one thing with their new special rules>USRs are mostly on par, I like stuff like Drilled and that flame attacks are no longer a coin toss between being really useful against certain armies while making an unit useless against some fire resistant units I also prefer just pointing to a spot on the table rather than "guessing" a range - unless you're new you can pretty much estimate the range anyway but people will slow down games to rethink it like five times.
>>98544571I don't think I've seen lumineth models in his army
>>98544761Spiritually, there are. Even if he denies it so.
>>98544764If you've got reason to be pissed about anon why make up stuff instead of being pissed about stuff he actually does?
>>98544786>being pissedIm not. I am however not liking how he completely disregards wood elves lore and making high elves into discount lumineth instead.
>>98544735TOW CR is not fine. People are using CR to insta-win combat against monsters/monster riders by sacrificing their unit champion. >inb4 that only happens at tournamentsIf we're talking about casual games, then discussing the rules like this really doesn't matter.The only thing separating AP from S did was make low S units that can use great weapons better while also forcing high S units to either take great weapons or rely on special rules to get any amount of AP. That's another thing TOW fucked up, weapon options!The leadership rules characters can use range from either being okay (rallying cry) or game-breakingly annoying and uninteractive (undead healing). Arguably a net negative. Also, 6th had those too. Also also, there were more interesting ways to customize characters (thanks to the better and more interesting magic items) in 6th. See marks, magic items, and army rules in general.As for the USRs, drilled is okay. Flaming attacks don't work on magical regeneration now, which is really stupid. They totally fucked frenzy for no reason, fly is arguably more balanced (but less interesting) than it was in 6th, One can also make the argument that having so many special rules be universal, rather than unique to the armies that actually use them, makes the game more bland. That argument is retarded for a number of reasons, but it also has some merit.Oh yeah, TOW also screwed over template attacks. And increased the base sizes! Which made templates even worse!Boo TOW! Boo! Anyway, I don't think this discussion will really go anywhere (perhaps unsurprisingly, /wfg/ doesn't like discussing the rules), so I'll stop writing all these paragraphs. 6th is good, everyone ITT should try it. Try 7th too! And 8th! And 3rd and 4th and 5th! Give 1st and 2nd a try too. Play every edition, really. Form your own opinions!
>>98544331But doesn't that mean the only reason they played 6th is because it was also the path of least resistance?
>>98544338Because most people just us the OS that comes pre-installed. I can't think of a single person who actively switched to windows 11 from 10 on their already existing computer.
>>98544838What? No. There were also people playing 5th and 8th in the area. The people playing 6th wanted to play 6th. And if anything, the path of least resistance would be playing 40k or AoS. Thankfully, nobody wants to do that!
>>98544812Dude you're making stuff up and "highly paying attention to it but not because of being mad". You're going to turn into a schizo at this rate. Please don't.
>>98544849>the people who wanted to play 6th played 6thOkay so if there are people in the area to support a community of people who specifically want to play 6th even though there's multiple options, why would those people feel the need to play TOW? Are those people now refusing to play 6th? Or are the simply choosing not to?
>>98544833CR is fine, I like that one bad roll usually doesn't result in a unit of like 20 guys getting swept by four horsemen because now units can fall back and fight again, so there's still consequences (getting shifted off an objective and giving the enemy another round of charge bonuses).
>>98544857Fuck off.
>>98544862People are refusing to play 6th, yes, because TOW is the currently supported edition. They want to play in tournaments and tournaments are played using TOW.It's fucked, anon. I've only managed to get one game of 6th in over the last 2 years, whereas I got well over 30 games of TOW in. Not for lack of trying, by the way.
>>98544833This reads like an actual reddit post, from the formatting to how do I put it, energy?
>>98544876Effortposts are typically unwelcome on /tg/ these days, but is the post wrong?
>>98544875>They want to play in tournaments and tournaments are played using TOW.If there main interest is tournaments, doesn't that mean they were just settling for 6th then? Since there was no tournament seen for whfb anymore?
>>98544833>The only thing separating AP from S did was make low S units that can use great weapons better while also forcing high S units to either take great weapons or rely on special rules to get any amount of AP. That's another thing TOW fucked up, weapon options!It's the other way around really:>low S units needed to high S weapons to get any amount of AP and easier wounding >high S units didn't need to take anything since they not only wounded enemies easily but also already had like -2 or -3 AP base, so you only saw them with two weapons or hand weapon and shieldTying AP to weapons helps unit variety.
>>98544886There was a tournament scene, anon. Several, even. There's still a tournament scene for 8th over in Europe. People in my area stopped playing 6th and moved to TOW because the tournaments started using TOW's ruleset. This vexes me greatly.I don't think you'll understand this until an edition you like gets replaced with an edition you like less.
>>98544882It's not the effort, it's the formatting and general energy.This is how people format posts on 4chan.Not.Like this.
>putting runes on a gromril weapon removes the bonus APWhy the fuck even give some of these unit champions the option then, you're straight up losing value on the weapon when trying to upgrade it and have to buy that one extra point of AP back.
>>98544914Some people say reddit spacingisthisother people say it'sthisWho gives a shit? Is the post wrong, or are you just complaining about formatting because you don't like what's being said?
>>98544812>disregards wood elves lore and making high elves into discount lumineth instead.is this another of your "spiritual" gripes or something that's actually real this time?
>>98544900I highly doubt the tournament scene for 6th prior to TOW was anything close to to the tournament scene for TOW now. I also already have experienced this in 40k anon. I still play games of 9th, 7th and 4th regularly, more so than 11th because people in my area want to play those editions. This just feels like you whining that other people prefer the new stuff and aren't stuck with what you prefer.
>>98539433Is there any book, novel, or preferably an audiobook that offers a good look into the personality of Settra the Imperishable and how he manages his Empire beyond the battle tomes about his campaigns? I’m interested in details like what he truly envisions for the future of his Empire, especially concerning the mostly minor skeletons, and what he plans to do with more power once he gains it.
>>98544898High S units are also more expensive, anon. Now that even elite units with high S need to take great weapons and halberds to get any amount of AP, they're significantly less desirable. Cheap units with low S had a low enough points cost that you could justify giving them a specific upgrade to both their strength and their AP. Either way, setting aside special rules that provide AP to hand weapons, you're going to be seeing a lot of great weapons in TOW and very few halberds. I would argue that there's less unit variety now than there was then.
>>98544959>Some people say reddit spacing>is>thisBecause it is. Don't care about edition wars or what you were saying, the post offended me visually.
>>98545000Unwad your panties, anon.
>>98544997Multiple armies give their S4 elites either free AP on hand weapons or special weapons with in-built AP.
>>98545022Format like a human redditanon.
>>98545035Yes, that's what "special rules" refers to in that post. Those special rules would not be necessary if S was still tied to AP. Special rules bloat is a separate, but no less important, issue with TOW.
If I want to build an aesthetically pleasing infantry-based army, one which I want to set out on the table formed up in a battle line, do you think it would look better to have lots of 'standard' sized units (ie 20 man units in 5x4 blocks) or have fewer much larger units?
>>98545035Also, those special rules make halberds a lot less desirable in general and are bad for the game in terms of unit variety in the first place.
>>98544982No, he's a non-character
>>98545056moar blocks of dudes. Fewer big units just tend to blue into a blob after a certain point.
>>98544729Lots of trans girls from my discord are into Tow. Tomb Kings are their favourite
since Norlanders are practically imperial norscans, that's that mean southern girls dreams about 1,90m norland bf?
Squire conversion/kitbash ideas?
>>98544729Yeah sorry all the biofems are in 40k or AOS. TOW is for programming socks enjoyers because of all the /v/ secondaries.
>>98545058Halberds are a lot less desirable because the fight in two ranks when charged means most of the time your unit wants the other defensive options available to them. If halberds gave their bonus when charging and charged but then went down to -1 it would be worth it again. Halberds are still the best overall common weapon, they just aren't the best specialized common weapon.
>>98545261use normal bretonnian bowmen, but only use the hooded heads, rotate the bow so it's almost parallel to the ground, and use plenty of basic material like tall grass or small trees, make unit filler from the vegetation if neededalternatively just mix empire archers with wildecorps, the archers kit should have enough spare bows for them too
>>98543467>>98543468Thanks guys.Yeah, I think one box of Troops will be enough to give a go; will looks at some tutorials in the meantime. Though I hope the price is better than GW's.
>>98545521It'll probably be a 10-15% discount depending on the store. There's an upper limit to how much of a discount stores are allowed to give on GW stuff, and it varies by region a bit. Got a province or city in mind yet? I'm building up a Talabecland force right now myself
>>98545056The larger the unit the better
>>98545521You might want to keep your eyes open for the Battalion box at a decent price. You get State Troops, missile troops and a Steam Tank.
>>98545555>>98545521And it will preoccupied for a long time.
>>98540783>>98543898>>98544501when I read the description of the Shardlands and the nu Chaos Wastes, it reminded me strongly of the description of the Formless Wastes in 40k which are an unaligned part of the Warp not controlled by any Chaos godhttps://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Formless_Wastesthis is where the Forge of Souls is canonically located in 40kand in aos as wellalso this bit> castles crafted from bone and fortresses of ichor this sounds a lot like that place which we know is still canon in TOWhttps://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Marcher_Fortress>Its walls are crafted from blackened stone, veined with pulsing, oozing colours, and mortared with the crushed bones and blood of spent revellers and those that fell in battle against Slaanesh's minions>Corpses, both of mortals slain in battle and Daemons that fell into disfavour in the eyes of the Master are ground into a bloody mortar beneath the titanic grindstone of the windmill. This mortar is used to strengthen the walls of the Fortress above, empowering it with the strength of mortality and the authority of despair.overall it really feels like GW is trying to push that the Chaos Wastes at the north pole of the Warhammer World are the same as the Formless Wastes of 40k/AoS, the unaligned part of the Warp as if the an entire piece of the Warp was physically located on the physical warhammer worldtruly weird
>>98545545I hope you're right with the discount.>Got a province or city in mind yet?I have a few choices in mind, and since there's 30 models in the box, I was thinking about dividing them in 2, and do a mishmash. One of them being Marienburgers, whilst the other I'll either roll for them (picrel) or take suggestions.>I'm building up a Talabecland force right now myselfNice, good for you dude.>>98545555>>98545562maybe, but it might still be a while before they actually come out for purchase. I'll think.
>>98545565https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Marcher_Fortress>If a mortal eats or drinks anything within the Marcher Fortress, or worse, falls prey to the physical predations to one, or more, of its many servants, he be overcome by a disease of the mind known as the Sickening Lust. The victim is overcome with insatiable physical cravings—food, drink, and carnal sins. Whenever they are given an the opportunity to eat or drink, they must resist the temptation to gorge himself on everything available. If they fail, he can do nothing but eat and drink, and will even beg, or threaten others for their portions. The larger the offering, the harder it becomes to resist. In addition, the victim gains a twisted carnal desire that dominates his every waking thought, growing persistently lewd and debased in behaviour.does that mean a guy with no unusual cravings who enter that place will be turned into a foot fetishist ? a vore guy ? an inflation fetish guy ? a braaap sniffer ? a furry ?so there are places in the warhammer world which are literally like /d/ ? or any other 4chan board at night time ?
>>98545565>are the same as the Formless Wastes of 40k/AoSexactly, AoS design philosophy has no place in WFB
>>98544420Most of them are completely out of scale so they don't even fit. Lots of people use 3D printed armies though.
>>985450567x4 is what I personally like. 5x4 feels really small.
>>98544729>>98545228>>98545276>perry replying to his own shit bait twice after no-one respondsholy kek what a sad faggot
when is Sylvania out?
>>98543835chosen should be the single best infantry in the entire game
>>9854568212x4 is best
Does anyone have a size comparison with the old lizardmen riders with empire mounted units
>>98545864No that's too much, terrain gets in the way and you can't wheel
>>98545874Why would the wall of doom need to wheel?
>>98544420It's literally as easy as removing any AOS-specific elements and that's that. Giants exist in WHFB. Change the shield that's on that one's gut and you'll be fine.
>>98545880Terrain gets in the way and if you don't wheel to face the enemy you just get flanks and your wall of doom is useless because you only get 4 models in base contact.12 and more is played with drilled only, which you can pick on a unit that starts as 7x4
>>98543835>and then everybody clapped
>>98545910That literally makes zero sense
>>98545910>terrain Interesting. Got any pics of some TOW terrain that has meaningful impact on the game?
>>98546005Kill yourself perrynigger
I just saw that there is a black bretonnian bowman in the art of The War of Settra arcane journal and I'm so fucking fed up with that whole diversity businessthis shit is now canon
>>98545942It would if you were playing the game.
>>98546007I will take that as a 'no'.
>>98545723>>98546007This perry shit is so tiresome. When you accuse everyone of being perry it really loses its meaning
>>98546009>this shit is now canonno, it isn't
>>98546009There's also a man-at-arms in the same art.
>>98546157I wish it wasn't but art in an arcane journal is for all intents and purposes official endorsement from gw
Movement tray's done, gonna varnish it tomorrow.In other news I went full retard and bought-Old Warriors of Chaos Batallion, something to add to my Beastmen for some Horde of chaos fun (or solo Chaos)-Champion of Chaos model, the one with the spear and the large horns- I'll change the head, it's pretty ugly, and the face looks like a black guy so meh.What are YOU working on/recently bought?
>>98546320nope
>>98546320>endorsement from GW GW doesn't decide what's canon. None of the wagies working at GW had any hand in creating Warhammer. Their authority ends at the ability to sell models. >>98546331Based, looks good.
>>98544729TOW's pseudo-historical vibe attracts only incels and troons. Women avoid it
>>98546432>Their authority ends at the ability to sell models.This. Bad lore cannot enter your games unless you allow it.
>>98546122It's just too obvious
>>98546485Apparently not because only 1 out of 4 of your accusations were correct
>>98544145This already happened to Necromunda, Epic and especially Bloodbowl. They all had really nice community maintained rules and a lot of players, then, as soon as GW released a new version, the community got split and rules efforts became abandoned, often in fear of GW taking the projects down.The worst thing for any dead game is getting brought back by a company that only cares about marketing.A new Mordheim won't have Blanche doing art direction, it won't have the darker, more absurd tone of the original either. Some of the rules could become less clunky, but considering what happened to Necromunda and HH 3e, there's a very real risk of both getting too bloated and too streamlined.Dead as is it now, Mordheim is the best it'll ever be.
>>98544145You literally couldn't be more wrong.
>>98544145>I never understood this persepctive, surely the people who currently play mordheim will just continue to play the version they prefer.It's because the people who make that their talking point don't actually currently play mordheim, at best they wish they did and think that an updated version would reduce their chances of playing the old version, but the sadder truth is that their chances stay the exact same: 0.
>>98544243Well yeah, TOW is just 6th but better.
>>98546773In what way?
>>98546863Literally every way.
Are there any good old world stl telegram groups? I want to print some dark elves.
>>98542024the fantasy of playing boomer dwarves
>>98546870Do you have a peer reviewed source for this, chud?
>>98542024I like them for the Tolkien boomer fantasyThey can move pretty fast if you have a Dwarf Cart and Anvil and marching column. Rangers/Fireball Thane + Runesmith buff are pretty good at shooting support to discourage cavalry and such from trying for flanks.Also Royal Clan Warriors are relatively inexpensive and pretty difficult to kill.>Am currently undefeated vs Expeditionary Force, proving the boomers right
>>98546863Break tests with fall back in good order, nerfed fear and decoupling AP from Strength come to mind.It's just way more fun.
>>98544420I don't think I'd care too much if my opponent did it, as long as wasn't too egregious. Just make sure the base is right-ish and the model isn't too weird for what you're saying it is.
>>98544384I do think that the 6th edition army books were the best as far as artwork and content.
>>98546928you realise a peer review would almost certainly find in favour of him right? It's just another term for an echo chamber.
>>98546945Do you use the Handgun or Crossbow on your Thane? I would think the Crossbow to match the range of the Rangers.
>>98547001Crossbow. The extra 6 inches and AB 2 (plus 2 with runesmith) is nearly always better than AP1 and AB1. Especially since a lot of the time you will be trying to spike 6s on a T6+ monster anyway
>>98547008That is what I assumed, but I thought I would ask just to make sure. Starting a Dwarf army soon and Royal Clan sounds fun, if lacking in cool machines and guns. Thanks!
>>98546331bought the new chaos champion box
>>98545261Empire Archer bodies, Peasants Bowmen arms/bows, Men-at-Arms heads.(pic not really related).
>>98543855I'm dead fucking on actually, as evidenced by the fact that you continue to equate "cool and fun" with "must be the bestestestest liek EVAR".People like you asserted taking the Mark of Nurgle was "pointless" in 6th WHFB. That Chaos Warriors were generally pointless and everyone should just Marauderspam. You thought taking full size Tactical Squads was "wasting points". That Dreadnoughts were worthless. You're the wargaming embodiment of the "knows cost of everything but the value of nothing" adage. I took the Marks that corresponded to my armies' themes, and I won. I never left home without at least two full size tactical squads or multiple infantry platoons of basic guardsmen, and I won. I built every single army I've ever made starting from either the fluff, or from a fun modelling idea I then made conform to the fluff, and for four straight editions of WHFB and five of 40K my W:L ratio was easily 4:1 using all-comers lists in a local meta that was often sweaty as fuck, because I played and understood the game, not Netlisthammer Simulator 51,000.Other than the egregious power of characters in 4th/5th and the handful of ridiculously unbalanced army books released in 7th that completely broke the game, there has never been a point in Warhammer where a unit or an army was so bad it wasn't worth taking if it fit your theme, or where it was so ineffectual it might as well not have been there at all. But you don't want "fits my army's theme and performs a role in my battleplan", you want "ZOMGZ LEET PWNZORZ BESTEST UNIT EVAR" or you think it's worthless trash.That's a problem with you, not Chosen.
>>98544032You're like those old-Japanese-soldier-hiding-inna-woods-still-fighting-WW2-tier fags who were still pretending FDM machines were stuck in the cardboard-frame reprap quality tier all the way up until the end of the Ender 3 era. Resin printing has moved on, grandad.
>>98544972Yes, you fuckwitted troon, that's the argument that was being made as to why GW releasing an updated ruleset is a bad thing - most gamers are cattle, so if you like playing the thing you like and GW "update" it into something you don't, you will now struggle to keep playing the thing you like because many of the other people who *had* been content to play it with you will gleefully go back to slurping James' cock.I hope you're just shitposting anon, the thought someone could sincerely be this dumb makes me weep for the future of humanity.
>>98547106Crazy how good those sculpts look.
>>98547148the airborne carcinogens have certainly moved on, into your lungs. Even the PRC has safety legislation against their use without full respiratory equipment and ventilation.
>>98539778Kislev soon?
>>98547285yes! the tears will be glorious
I ordered some TK stuff via my lgs but wanted to start sooner since it normally takes them a week or two to get stuff, but i ordered two by mistake, looks like i have five boxes of skeles and i will be making that 60 block of archers
>>98547328>The Man>not The Griffonyikes
>>98547328Why do leakers do this piss poor attempt at prose poetry?
I got a box of Boyz and a box of standard Goblins. Now I want to make the switch to all Night Gobs. Sell me on a mixed greenskin army, dudes
>>98547465They're all fun and cool models, they look good together, and one of the biggest strengths of orcs and goblins is the variety of units and tactics. Having a bit of everything is nice. Also all night goblins is a bit cancer with the current rules so your opponents will be happier to see some variety instead of 10 fanatics every game.
>>98547446anon that's the new tagline for the next edition of TOW...
>>98547370Good luck with your hobbying Anon, have fun! Make sure to post your progress and share the stories of your dudes as they develop.
>>98547477Sure, because GW loves to use words like Lo when writing their taglines
>>98547473Fanatics are nowhere near as bad now, they can be targeted so they aren’t the cancer they used to be.
>>98547134Cool and fun is not "bestest ever". I've never said that. Cool and fun means cool and fun, nothing more, and it's sad that you're continuing to misunderstand my position. I have, repeatedly, defended the mark of Nurgle in 6th. It's incredibly flavourful, having your units play a lot more like undead than living creatures (not really, but Fear is a fun rule) is a good time. The lore of Nurgle is also really cool and so are the magic items. I've used chaos warriors in 6th I still use them in TOW, as a matter of fact, and I'd argue they're worse in TOW than they are in 6th. I think chosen warriors suck because I've used them. Extensively. I tried every way to make them fun and it simply didn't work.What, in your opinion, makes chosen warriors fun and cool in TOW? That's a big block of chosen warriors there in the middle of picrel. by the way. I thought they were fun and cool until they were actually in battles. A 500 point mass of champions blessed by the chaos gods with 2A, that had to be sick. But it wasn't. Tell me, what's a big block of chosen warriors to do against a dragon or 200 skeleton archers (a real list I played against in this very tournament and I have pictures as proof)? Enlighten me. What makes them cool in TOW?Also, this entire conversation started because someone said that chosen were good. They demonstrably aren't and nobody has been able to prove otherwise, so now the discussion has devolved to "fits the theme". Of course they can fit a theme. That's a completely different conversation. Anyway, it doesn't really matter. You know nothing about me as a player and I know nothing about you beyond the fact that you claim to play a certain way. You can blather on about how things should be, but you haven't presented a single reason for why chosen warriors are fun. Grats on tracking your WL ratio, I can't be bothered to do that.
>>98547328how reliable is this faggot?
why does it seem like goblin stuff is way more expensive than others? based on prices, it feels like a "premium" army for some reason. especially used and older models if you don't want to spend so much to buy everything new in old world. unpainted goblins from pre old world times are often super expensive compared to other factions like dwarves it seems.i'm a noob wanting to build my first army and love gobbos especially skarsnik/night goblins in the total war games. i want to understand if i'm just being salty or if goblins really are that expensive.
>>98547649Horde armies tend to be more expensive than than elite armies as chaff tends to cost more $ per point than elite models. Every range suffers from this, you get 20 peasants in Cathay for the same price as 20 Jade Warriors
>>98547649Because people like them and want to collect them. Orcs and goblins were one of the most popular armies back in the day and they're still very popular now. Supply and demand, anon!
>>98547652fuck me only liking the idea of playing goblins in fantasy and tyranids in 40k. should i just avoid regular goblin units then and mainly go for night goblin and special units?i recently made an offer on a battle for skull pass box (mostly unpainted units, a few painted badly, but whatever i can't afford an unopened box with only unpainted units) and wonder if it's as much of a good idea now.
>>98547663maybe i underestimated how popular they are/were.
>>98547649i've found goblins to be fairly cheap compared to others. still easy to get the blackfire pass stuff for cheap with patience and there is always people selling their gloomspite gitz armies so it's easy to get trolls, squigs and fanatics heavily discounted.keep your eyes on the 2nd hand market
>>98547670You can strip painted models with relative ease. That might save you a couple bucks.
>>98547675oh i see. can you generally assume that 100% of painted models you find on the market can be strip painted without damage to the model? this is just random question but why don't the sellers strip paint them? i wouldn't mind doing it myself but can't they tell they might get a better price for no-paint units compared to ones that look like a 12 y/o painted them.>>98547674ty anon.
>>98547685Unless they're made of resin, you can strip any model with a bit of effort, latex/vinyl gloves, and the right chemicals. You can strip resin models with a bit more effort and different chemicals. As for why sellers don't strip them, it's not worth the effort for the amount of value to be gained. It's expected that the buyer will be stripping the models anyway, so why invest the effort to only gain a couple of extra dollars at best? Sometimes stripping can take a lot of time, especially if the models and more importantly the paint on them is very old and heinous. Anyway, if you're looking for plastic goblins, stripping will be a bit more annoying than if you were looking for metal goblins, but you'll be fine. Get some LA's Totally Awesome (or your preferred degreaser/paint stripper, 99% iso also works), some gloves, a sealed container, and a firm toothbrush, and you'll be off to the races.
>>98547685Also, to clarify, do not use iso on resin models. They will melt.
>>98547697>>98547704saved. thanks a lot! i'm decent at painting on canvas but have no experience whatsoever with painting models (yet) and it does seem like more or less an entirely different skillset. i will keep all of that in mind.
>>98547370That's not really a mistake, you'll want that many skellies.
>>98547629Used to be great, long since washed. Will now usually just repeat other rumourmongers, or keep shit so vague it might mean just about anything. There was one especially funny "rumour" of his where he basically accounted for every possible option. Full of things like:>I've heard that legacy factions might not come back>but also, that it's very possible they will>in which case, it might be all, or only some>this could be soon, but also some time awayThere were like five other topics talked about by him in the exact same way.My guess is that he used to have legit connections, lost those for one reason or another, but since he was already hooked on the attention he just tries to stay relevant.
I had to take a break and do some braindead airbrushing some base colors on my horrors. They look like shit right now, but I have a plan for them, and I trust in the process. If everything works out, I'll have enough time today to paint one or two of them.
>>98547106I really want the foot Chaos Lord with the halberd from the 2H dragon kit and I'm so assmad it's not gonna be a solo release
>>98547827Negotiate with someone in your area who wants a sorcerer on a dragon.
>>98547851>>98547851>>98547851>>98547851New
>>98547495They've always been fine if you bring a reasonable amount and are still annoying as hell to play against if you bring as many as the rules allow. The shotting at fanatics change was actually more of a nerf to the reasonable amount of them, I think.
>>98547848I only know the one, and he wants both
