Akon - Snapback.mp3 EditionPrevious: >>98546238>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: Does your pod play with background music? If so, what's your pod's jam?
>TQYes, and its always awful old rock.
>>98553923>TQWe usually just turn on Spotify and give each other choices on what song to choose
>>98553923>tqno, the LGS usually has some sci-fi or fantasy movies or early 2000's alt-rock music playing on its TV over the play space, depending on who is working the register. It's all fine unless the autistic kid is working, in which case we're stuck with a Spongebob marathon.And look, I don't hate Spongebob. I can handle an episode or two. But seven fucking hours of that voice... is too fucking much.
>TQIt's usually a playlist of video game OSTs.
Asking in thread again for proxy or counterfit card, however you call it, i just want one that looks like real but im a cheap ass nigga
>>98553923>Does your pod play with background music?Surprisingly no, which I always found kind of odd because we often do have a lot of connection over music. I'll propose it next time we meet. Would be fun to say winner gets to put on their playlist.
>>98554000many say chang but I'm not sure if it's cheaper than mpc anymore
>>98554000Being a broke cunt isn't a crime, but being a lazy one is. If you're gonna get fake shit and make me have to watch my trades and orders closer you're gonna have to grow some balls and figure it out yourself.Or you can grow up and use marked playtest proxies.
>>98553923>TQ: Does your pod play with background music? If so, what's your pod's jam?Of course not. It's distracting and often most people's taste in music sucks, so everyone else is suffering.
bout to play commander for the first time, give me the most cringe cancer deck to ever play against plz
>>98554068Heroes in a Half Shellor Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
>>98554068just go take the first deck you see on edhrec for yshtola
>TQUsed to, but the guy who liked to put it left so now it's just us babbling>>98554074Edgar Markov or Krenko, Mob Boss
>>98553923>TQ: Does your pod play with background music? If so, what's your pod's jam?I host most of the time, so I get to play background music. It's Japanese city pop.
>>98554068You will play againt Rogsai, who will be played by the most insufferable cunt possible.
I was pondering something recently and I thought /edhg/ might enjoy arguing about it.In brackets 3 and below, pretty much any deck with white in its identity would be happy to play a Serra Ascendant on turn 1, even if they weren't into humans or lifegain, right? Assuming they weren't trying to lower their own life total or something, I mean. A 6/6 flyer with lifelink for 1 mana is just that good of a card.So I was thinking, if there was a "vanilla test" in casual commander, what would the criteria be? Like, assuming no particular synergy with your deck, what kind of rate would a creature need at a given mana curve to make the cut in an average deck? I was thinking about this because I was debating putting Vadmir, the New Blood into my "repeatable crimes" deck on the basis that a 2 mana 6/6 with menace and lifelink is probably worth it in lower brackets even though he doesn't draw or anything...Me personally I feel like I wouldn't run a 2 mana 10/10 unless it had some combination of vigilance, lifelink, reach or flying. Or if it was in a deck that I could easily give it one of those things.
>>98554077DO THISBonus points if you advertise it as “not like the other Yshtola decks” but it plays exactly like the other Yshtola decks.
>one Worldfire is out it took top have it be a bracket 4That is a bit excessive
>>98554068vren all edicts
>>98554112What
>>98554112das RITE. no matter what it's too good
>>98554112Fucking autocorrect
>>98554091Serra Ascendant is the litmus test for a french vanilla beatstick and he himself isnt meta defining so that's why every other beatstick creature worth a damn has to have some kind of (ideally multiples of):>overrun effect>commander damage/infect>haste>evasion like flying and/or trample>attack trigger>etb/cast trigger>can protect itself
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98554112Auto assuming that you will grief and worldfire to drag the game down just because you're losing is not excessive at all
>>98554091>A 6/6 flyer with lifelink for 1 mana is just that good of a card.It genuinely isn't because it's not about comparing it to every single one drop you could play on turn 1 because this isn't 60 card. It's only good very early game and for many strategies it's a complete dead-draw late game. A card that has modality, cantrips, or synergy beats its competition for a card slot. The problem is a 2 mana 20/20 would still not be good in a Rog-Sai deck even if it had unblockable because on its own it's still going to take 6 turns to win a game. But its very existence would pump the ever loving fuck out of any power-matters strategy and more decks would gradually start leaning into power-matters synergy pieces.
Rog sai is not the defacto "best deck in the world."It's not even the best deck in cedh. Stop bringing it up retards
>>98554184Technically current rogsi is nerfed because it lost jewlotus crypt and dockside so imagine if it eventually got those tools back>inb4 wotc will totally honor what the rc did even after explicitly telling them not to ban said cards
>>98554184Sorry I was just thinking of a deck off the top of my head that doesn't win via combat but also wins faster than 6 turns.
rogsi
Sol ring
>>98554214BAN
I'm brewing up Lulu proliferate. What are some good staples and wincons of that style, aside from like...spamming Poison Counters. That's gonna be a last resort.
>>98554214MASCOT OF THE FORMAT
>>98554192jlo will probably get unbanned. Besides very niche uses in legacy and vintage it serves no purpose.The other two, can, should, and likely will remained banned for a long ass time
>>98554241I want them all GCs because cedh is full of goodstuff slop right now and turbo wasnt supposed to be nerfed by an autism moment by the RC anyway
I only run 33 lands in my deck, and you?
>>98554192I can't really see them unbanning any of them. A good portion of WHY they didn't want them banned is because they didn't want to deal with the inevitable fallout of pissing off the whales. Unbanning the things would just cause a very similar situation to happen again and it's honestly not worth the trouble. Plus you can't really sell any of them as chase cards if people are legitimately unsure if they'll even be able to USE them come the next ban wave
>>98554214Goes great in my Trinket Mage package.
>>98554258>unbanning things is le badAll they have to do is make them GCs so that the timmy bracket is safe, that's the whole point
>>98554214UP TO BRACKET 2 WITH YE
>>98554258what the other anon said. they made this perfect extended banlist so people can still sell their banned cards without losing value
>>98554280Investards should lose their value
>>98554285Investchads should keep their value
>>98553923>TQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGHe6g8WwEc
I'm tempted to make a glass cannon deck, how many doubles/triples would it take to just kill someone with the card lighting bolt. and the obvious question would it be viable in any way?
>>98554350Furnace of Rath, Fiery Emancipation, and City on fire.3 X 3 X 3 X 2 = 54 damage.Now just figure out how to best get the 19 mana you need to cast the 3 enchantments and lighting bolt itself.
>>98554350I have no idea, but I have a Zo-Zu deck with that card, and a bunch of other static damage effects that punish everyone for playing the game. Offset by some lifegain and asymmetrical punishment. I've tuned it a lot but it still hardly wins, but it is fun to play.
Show me the most disgusting sweaty deck you have. I need ideas to be a diabolical asshole.
>>98554409Does this count as sweaty?
I ike the meme of cards getting turned into other cards
Ive been having fun with this recently. Could certainly use some work.
Okay, hear me out. Jeskai Communism. I'll use Zedruu (picrel) and Mind Control effects to donate my opponents' cards to each other. Does this sound sufficiently funny, or like it'd just suck?
>>98554536I FUCKING FORGOT THE PIC.
I'm gonna brap on the haters.
>>98554540It sounds terrible but the whole point of this dumb format is to play terrible garbage so I'd say go for it. Don't forget that you can also donate any auras that you use to take control of creatures.
>>98553923>TQ: Does your pod play with background music? If so, what's your pod's jam?No. We play in an LGS. I don't think people would like us blaring our own music
>>98554543That jack-o pose really went places huh
>>98554572It was an entire meme-template thing that artists were going crazy for.
>>98554512this looks like a fun deck though
>>98554575They still do that shit.
>>98554589And I love it
I have come to the conclusion this deck is too strong based off the fact NO ONE AT MY LGS KNOWS WHAT A FUCKING BOARD WIPE IS
>>98554612Maybe they fear your three untapped islands to such a degree that they never even attempt the wipe.
>>98554612You must continue to punish them regardlessBesides you're running council of reeds which has nazi reed, so why stop your fun
>>98554627Everytime someone asks me why I'm holding mana open I tell them honestly, even if its just 'oh I only have 4 and 5 cmc spells left'. No one ever thinks I'm being honest though....
>>98554572More reach than the actual woke ass game it came from lmao
>>98554663>le woke
>>98553923Everyone takes turns setting the playlist. Last week someone put on Niv-Mizzet x Smaug ASMR.
>>98554673And no one used their veto to stop this from happening? What kind of weirdos are you playing with?
>>98554671>le triggered
>>98553923>TQ: Does your pod play with background music? If so, what's your pod's jam?When we're at one of our friend's houses he'll have emo/metal bands from 2000-2010 playing. It's kinda rad
>>98554663>Calling another game wokePeople in glass houses, anon.
>>98554612I don't know if my best deck, a boros token aggro deck, could beat this. But at least it does run board wipes and interaction.
>>98554612>Blue scute swarm that takes even less set-upWhat the hell were they thinking
>>98554810That they wanted a blue Krenko
>>98554712If you veto you're a fag. It was funny listening to them trying to gaslight each other.
>>98554673>Last week someone put on Niv-Mizzet x Smaug ASMR.That's a pretty good gag ngl.
>>98554812That's not krenko, like I said, its scute swarm
>>98554612eating good in the neighborhood
>>98554536I don't play jeskai because white tends to prevent things I want to do and want my opponents to do but my izzet communism deck is pretty fun to playhttps://moxfield.com/decks/rxAfVGCrkUqR5VEvkK2q2w/
>>98554945>$23,000 listErm... I'm just kinda winging it with what I have. Not sure it's a serious enough deck to pick up specific singles though, but I'll see if I have anything in there.
>>98554971The vast majority of that price is in the timetwister, wheel of fortune, and volcanic island, which you can just print out or use a different card
>>98554971basic plains + sharpie marker = 10¢ time twister
>>98554995AIEEEE NO YOU CAN'T JUST SAY THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DUMP YOUR LIFE SAVINGS INTO THIS GAME!!!
volo + haunted one super kino rube goldberg machine but too difficult to set up
opinions on this?
>>98555148>Sorcery Useless
I hate dumb nigger decks that do dumb nigger things. Or as retards call them, ub decks
>>98555148>2 mana>Sorcery>Edict>Edict with no restrictionsNot worth running.
>>98555148useless in kraven
>>98553923tq I play with randoms and no most people suck. If its not Miles Davis On the Corner get it the fuck outta here
>>98553450I like goblin welder just dont own one and not in my immediate buy list but of course you can proxy anything. >>98553437danke schön (i believe thats the proper linguistic mark over the "O")>>98553459goblin welder and door to nothingness are not legendary spells. try again>>98553787bootleg mage or direct from china USEA>>98553921pic rel
>>98546238>tq from previous threadtonight some younger kid (maybe 15?) had a super melty. random pod, mid power. its about t4 or t5 and another player Swords' this kids commander. he folded on the spot and he ran out of the store. looked like he was about to bust out start cryinghe came back in and didnt say a word to anyone and got his cards and I have no idea where he even went but I didn't see him the rest of the day, nor go back out the front door. definitely some 'tism going on there
>>98555308like he sprinted out?man even for spergs i wonder how this game gets people so upset. hopefully he feels embarassed enough to not embarass himself in a way that matters in the future
>>98555148I mean it's a pretty good followup to like a wrath that leaves one indestructible guy alive but it's pretty narrow>>98555244I like how Kraven doesn't run Rollick
>>98555308I've had those days where game after game, pod after pod seems like everyone is out to get you.Bad threat assessment. General trolling, etc. it doesn't matter everyone just seems out to stop you regardless of what everyone else is doing. And it's frustrating. But holy shit. Running out of the LGS is such a sperg overreaction.
draw engines are a diamond dozen what are some put card into hand engines in the command zone
Built a budget deck from cards lying around for pic related yesterday.Man, what a fun commander. Hard to run out of gas with this.
>>98555349yeah he was like "not my commander. thats all I have!" and then conceded and put his cards into a pile and before putting all his stuff away got up and ran out the door and came back like 5 minutes later and grabbed his shit without saying anything or looking at anyone. I have no idea why he thought he couldn't possibly come back from that enormous loss and future {2} cost to his commander but apparently it strange
>>98555396he cute
>>98555378For days like those I carry my evil shit archenemy decks.>"Oh you keep targetting me?? Let me give you a reason to do so, now suffer faggot."
>>98555378I'm not sure how his day was going before that but he was sitting alone rearranging a deck when I asked if he's looking for a commander game. I think he had a friend or sibling he was with that was in another game so maybe they whooped his ass all morning. this was my first game and the dude who killed his commander's first game so no idea but it definitely triggered him. neither of us had anything more than mana dorks or basic creatures out so first commander out will draw some attention. usually the most enjoyable games I have played are where everyone appears to be over 30 something and some what mellow
>>98553923Is Tiny Leaders fun?
Historically I've never really liked UB, and even though I'm a big FF fan I refrained from buying the booster boxes when the rest of my play group did. However, it may be time to stop pushing against the tide and accepting reality. With that being said, kinda want to make a Y'shtola deck cause she's number 1 now. Is she fun?
>>98555528>strong commander effect in esper colors, lends herself well to generic goodstuff>still open ended enough that you can go in different directions>pretty catgirlYeah she's fun
This is such an underrated card. Won a game because of it tonight, even though a Humilty showed up because nobody had removal.
>>98555528>However, it may be time to stop pushing against the tide and accepting reality. With that being said, kinda want to make a Y'shtola deck cause she's number 1 now.Why?! How does that make sense?!yes it's fun, you just jam random esper noncreature spells and win. but why now??
>>98555555Look at those digits.Also, its not underrated. Its just expensive, and you said yourself, you won strictly because no one had removal.People have more creature removal than enchant removal Which most of the good damage doublers are.Or you could just play twinflame that only costs 5
>>98555560So he can play a legendary 4 Y'shtola game one day of course duh.
>>98555555Sextuple for sex card....
>>98555568It's expensive, but I had a swiftfoot boots up, plus a kor have and a Slayer's Stronghold. It just cleaned up the board.
>>98555396Seems like it goes wild with lifelink and pic related.
>>98555560you don't even have to do non-creature spellsyou could build yshtola with all creatures and its abilities are still relevant
>>98555396He's just ool's husband and nothing more.
>>98555637I completely memory hole'd that she had ward.She's just so dogshit compared to ashling
>>98555637she cute
>>98555629even the third?
>>98555644Ashling is shit compared to Jodah
you know how the original cards with Amass got turned into Amass Zombieswellthey should do the same thing with Recruit, I want to Recruit some mercenaries dammit. humans shouldn't get to have all the fun
>>98555654draw up to 4 cards per turn cycle is pretty good
>>98555665Yes. WotC should stop making such terrible face commanders.
>>98555679Play PreDH and get a clue (token).
>>98555670We just need more super tribes. (and continued support for old and new supertribes going on)
>>98555710make parties fine
What's a nigga gotta do to make Mark give us a proper hellbent commander
>>98555722https://moxfield.com/cards/AWJRJ-amber-gristle-o-maul
Are theft decks pretty based?
it seems the community has decided their favorite plug for commander night. whats your pick?
>>98555737No. They require your opponents to have nothing but gas and not hate you for playing it.
>>98555737They are shit and everyone hates playing against it.
>>98555751>everyone hates playing against it.asymmetrical fun is NOT allowed in cringemander
>>98555737It's based. This is me deck, B2 btwhttps://archidekt.com/decks/24465407/edea_is_cute
>>98555771she cute
unfortunately if you showed up to a table with tymna + ludevic people would probably think you're playing a good deck and not 4C party
>>98555819Yeah, tell me about it. I just wanna play random counters and Level Up dudes just let me sit here and Proliferate in peace
>>98555670But aren't you the owner of those tokens even if gained from someone else's recruit??
so, Gisa has access to green mana, I hope we'll see a BG Gisa one day
>>98555874She is mono black to the core
>>98555618It goes wild with you breathing. Goblin Bombardment is an insta include for him.How lucky that I got Goblin Bombardment promo a week before cobbling the deck together.
>>98555737based, they're my among my favorites both to use and to play againstI always place a few theft cards in my decks, Crabomination is a fave of mine
>>98555882then how she can cast these bg spells?
>>98555888I recently built version 1 of my Maralen, Fae Ascendant deck.It's incredibly funny to exile and steal opponents' cards, but holy hell does it draw the ire of other players without the deck having a proper wincon to the point I had players wasting all counterspells and removal on me despite the Simic player making huge creatures with trample who then proceded to curbstomp us all.
All I'm saying is there are 40 cards with the word Chandra('s) in its name. 39 of them are mono red. Realistically, how long until Chandra tribal is viable?
>>98555913Already possible, my dude. Don't let your dreams be dreams
>>98555913Nothing's stopping you from making a planeswalker party deck with all Chandra planeswalker cards.
>>98555906yeah, I've noticed that too in my games, theft gets usually contrasted more than other, more dangerous mechanicsme and a buddy made a theory that it's because it touches the primal instinct of "Don't touch my stuff!!!" especially if you snatch a player's waifu like Y'Shtolamaybe one day I'll decide to make a Tevesh Szat deck
>>98555918I fear a deck with 61 lands would not be very good. I'll be generous and say it could run like 10 mana rocks, but it still would probably brick a ton.
>>98555924>"Don't touch my stuff!!!"I should eat some Cheetos while playing the deck to give my opponents a proper reaason to target me then, hehehe.
>>98555918>kaladesh>shaman>tribalabsolutely problematic series of posts
>>98555906>but holy hell does it draw the ire of other players without the deck having a proper wincon to the point I had players wasting all counterspells and removal on me despite the Simic player making huge creatures with trample who then proceded to curbstomp us all.cringemander players in a nutshell
>>98555928You fill out the rest with cards related to Chandra.And don't forget to include only lands from sets where Chandra is featured.
>>98555945But the funny part is that every card besides land is named Chandra or Chandra's. It just isn't the same if you have to cheat with art or flavor text. I make a tiny exception for mana rocks, but I'm sure within 5 years we'll be up to 60ish Chandra cards and the dream can be realized with only Chandra('s) and land.
>>98555939Man I really must be the odd one out, because I love when opponents pull out cunty decks like that, which aren't just your run of the mill go wide into Craterhoof or go tall with counters boring decks.I recently played against a Child of Alara deck with the Maralen deck, I opted out entirely into ensuring dude got his gate wincon for the lulz.
>>98555965average commantard
>>98555936>steal an opponent's card>they scoop to avoid you touching it with your cheetodust covered fingersclever
>>98555960Reality Fracture screws the plan a bit by introducing blue Chandra, so unless both versions merge together in the story into Izzet Chandra who then proceeds to get a card you can play as a commander, you can not confidently claim to have all the Chandras.
>>98555976Kek, that didn't even cross my mind.
>>98555970If I were average, I would have already met a similar madman. So far only people I met re either those wh want to play solitaire, or those who love to play asshole decks but hate when someone plays an asshole deck against them.Meanwhile I just waant to see chaos unfold, no matter if I am on the receiving end.
>>98554540I have a playtest deck of this and its so mana hungry trying to pull this off that you might end up swapping a couple cards before 3 people have enough of your shit and beat you out of the gameYou'll need an average of *6* mana, with only 2 or 1 c, to redistribute *1* card. Youre honestly better off playing a semi chaos deck with Ian Malcolm as your commander and Share the Spoils type effects for communism.https://moxfield.com/decks/OAiYZHYGb0-UACeI595aww
>Attacks you for 22nothin personnel
>>98556122I'm straight so I don't know what this is
>>98556134fun cummander for turning dudes sideways (proverbially)
>>98556139>warrior of darkness>whiteHuh
So I have been thinking about the unannounced UB sets and the fact they will all be fantasy and I've come to the conclusion there ain't that many popular IPs anymore they can do without repetition.Warhammer FantasyWarcraftZeldaConanElder ScrollsMonster HunterBionicle (a very cope option that needs a serious eye squint to consider)Anything I could be forgetting that is very popular??
>>98556139Hybrid mana and Orzhov spells go brrrrr.
>>98556139>>98556151>hybrid manaoh fuck that's a neat deck idea. I wonder how many commanders could work with th-- Oh. Not a whole lot of options, then. Not a whole lot of *good* options either
>>98556179cute list
>>98556179I play General Ferrous Rokiric. Most of the good single target removal is mono-coloured, so he tends to stick and getting a 4/4 Golem stapled to your multi-colored spells can get pretty snowbally. I personally made my list where, with the exception of two the two Defilers, all my colored spells are RW.https://manabox.app/decks/NOYmKls8QaWNyJaIikPR1A
>>98556212Honestly? He and Ardbert are the only viable options imo, unless you wanna play Aragon's goodpile.dec
>>98555831>3xROE all star Knight of CliffhavenI shed a tear looking at this list.
>>98556380I don't know what this post means but you made me freak out a bit thinking I had 3 copies of that card in the deck somehow
HmmmToday i will take pictures of all my decks
>>98556394cute do it
>>98556147italian brainrots
>>98556415One down
>>98556465holy fuck another Grist enjoyer?? You built it way differently than I did though, admittedly my deck is kinda a meme (66 insects, 33 lands) and I just aim to flood the board with insects from her +1 over and over to self mill, then blast the table with her -5
>>98556494Zask is my commander but grist is my wife.I should probably have put Zask at the top and not the middle, that's my bad.Doesn't help that grist is on top of the deckbox too.It's by far my favourite deck, I even commissioned art of insect girls for all the tokens.Post your grist, I'd love to see it.
>>98556524It's nothing special, literally just Grist and 66 of the cheapest 5-10cent insects I could find. I think the whole deck cost me like 8bux to build. There's zero plan besides "+1 Grist to self mill, -5 Grist to blast the table"
>>98556465Minthara It's a bit schizophrenic in that its trying to bounce things, make tokens and proliferate at the same time but it's fun. My experience counter record is 42
>>98554251You will live among the slop.
>>98556624Pretty standard Teysa honestly.I probably need to make it a bit better at token generation though
>>98556630Oops all angelsNext step is to remove the last few cards that are not on theme.
>>98556179Momir Vig toolbox is still viable.
>>98556648This card brings back memories of getting stomped by elf decks. Good times.
>>98556648Oh huh. Yeah I only searched commanders for "[color] spell", didn't think about any spell types. Sounds tedious to search for every combo of color+spell type
>>98556624is this a pauper deck LMAO minthara just seems kinda iffy
>>98556783The limit of one per turn (without proliferation)was pretty restrictive but now Aang makes the deck slightly more viable.
>>98555737No. They're a lazy design.
>>98556147They did Dwight from The Office so who fucking knows at this point?
I cast Show&Tell, it resolved. Show me what you got.
>>98556147>and the fact they will all be fantasyYou got a source on that bucko? Clearly 1 of the 3 is another round of marvel
>>98556877I think anon is over-interpreting a statement that was made to the effect of "none of the sets will take place in New York"it could still be, yknow, Guardians of the Galaxy or X-Men in space or something. idfk.
>>98556869
>>98556887Not to mention the fact wizards will just fucking lie if they feel like it
>I can't wait to try out my goblinstorm deck!>w-wait, what's that card??do you include any hyperspecific hate pieces in your decks?
>>98556869I cast the emrakul I keep hidden in my lap for this scenario
>>98554612My play group doesnt run much artifact or enchantment hate. I had to seriously tune down my zedruu deck. Aggressive mining would just shut people out of the game permanently.
capeshit is just fantasy for urbanoids with stunted imaginations desu
>>98556933true
>>98556869The mighty Verdant Force.
>>98554612I was going to build him but then realized how predatory he is. Having counter backup for a self-sustaining wincon that loses to board wipes and board wipes alone is a little too snowball-y for my liking.
>>98555831This is why I'll never be able to build a bracket 2 deck. It's just a heap of asynergistic nonsense.
>>98556869Behold, my favourite group-hug win-con.
>>98556465>>98556624>"It's bracket 2 I swear"
>>98557075If you're gonna play for draws, do it like a real man, like pariah+stuffy doll.
>>98557092One of those decks has Farewell in it and the other doesn't seem particularly busted. What the hell are you even talking about?
>>98557092anon those look like average bracket 2 decks, not counting the one farewell that shouldn't even be a GC in my opinion
>>98557136oh there's tithe and vamp tutor too, but the other decks looks fine to me
>>98554350Look into the ruling when it comes to damage modifier's like these>>98554365, its still a lot of damage, but the opponent actually gets to pick the order. In anons situation its still a shit load of damage however. If you want a fun glass cannon deck I recommend Purphorus Bronze Blooded. You can still run those cards while also cheating out big ass dragons/ artifact creatures
Is it possible to have like an edhrec filter that blocks universes beyond cards? Maybe a scryfall filter. I've been away from magic for like a year and I'm trying to brew up some decks and I just don't have the heart to use the UB cards. And I love the mechanics of some of them but I just can't bring myself to do it. Honestly UB pushed me out of the game entirely but I have some friends that keep inviting me back for commander.
>outMirrormade>inTidusNeed to make a single cut for Summon: Fenrir if anyone has suggestions. I'm also still torn on whether I de-power this deck or just see more games with it as-is. b3 can be hard to gauge, especially when you randomly pod into stupid players. I can't tell whether the deck overperformed because Brenard never ate removal or what.Aurora Awakener is just such a fucking house though. It shows how disgusting FIRE design has become, that this thing is a bulk rare. I'd play this fucker in every 3c+ green deck for sure. A single sac effect and Brenard out sees six permanents. There are several clones in the deck for it, and copy effects that can be done later. One game it let me win in response to another player's combo.On the other hand it doesn't necessarily feel dishonest for the deck. Any win it produces is the result of saga creatures piling up. So far the deck's only wins involve Barbara Wright + Bahamut with 70+ mana worth of permanents in play. And even the "oppressive" board states (10 Glen Elendra tokens) have been the result of Good King Mog.The deck feels like it'd get trounced vs. anyone with the foresight to remove the obvious bant value engine.
>>98555148Guy doing the betrayal is so casual about it. Must be part jew
>>98557092Nah, I don't pretend these are not 3s.>>98557155I think there just the art tag so it should be -art:universes-beyond
>>98556147The WitcherGame of ThronesFate
>>98555555Checked. Ive ran across her many times, Usually with some form of hexproof attached
>>98557151>but the opponent actually gets to pick the order3 x2 x 3 x 3 = 543 x 3 x 2 x 3 = 54How you stack them only matters when there is an additive replacement effect like picrelIt doesn't matter how they order them, they still end up taking 54 damage.
>>98556869You wanna get goofy son? Let's get goofy
>>98554512I actually wish her payoffs were a little weaker. They legitimately seem pushed for a relatively low-cost effect. She eats Timmy bracket 2 decks alive and creates an army of elementals with ease.>>98554612Council of Reeds is actually oppressive. The play pattern of Ponder + keep up counter Magic + multiply your board puts him in a very abusive slot. You could actually build him to bracket 4 with a sufficient pile of counter magic.>>98556465>>98556624>>98556630>>98556640Very solid decks anon, even if I think Teysa is a bit overdone. Minthara in particular I've built once. But I got a bit too lost in the sauce trying to make it low-power infect creatures. The permanence of her stat boosting is actually pretty crazy, and I'm a fan of "sticky' mechanics like experience counters that let you play on a separate axis from the rest of the table.
>>98557167Thanks. I'll have to try and do it without edhrec but that will be a good exercise. It just stings seeing a bunch of effects I want but seeing it with fortnite slop on it.
>>98556640Serra's Sanctum with only 8 (?) enchantments? That's pretty ballsy.
>>98556640radiant archangel, very cool. I was thinking of doing a mono white angels deck with that. when I started Scars of Mirrodin was new and Sun Blast Angel I thought was the coolest thing ever. Baneslayer Angel was too expensive at the time. also very cool to have Serra's blessing I picked that up for something recently.
How the fuck do i build around this guy? Everyone makes him into stax, but his ability blocks you off from protecting your stax pieces.
>>98557395He's just combo slop. You play him the turn you're going to pop off.
>>98557348It felt like it needed to be in there when half the deck is themed around Serra herself and all but one of the basics are Serra's realm. >>98557259Thanks anon!Teysa is certainly overdone but she's fun and hot.Minthara really does get out of hand quickly once she actually gets going and any kind of power based value just keeps going up. Building her with infect seems like a fun way to do it instead>>98557361Radiant is cool and I kind of want to build her as a pauper commander if the guys at my LGS ever actually start playing again. There's a lot of cheap white flyers to stuff her with.Also great taste with the Serra's Blessing, Guay just does angels so well.
>>98557361When I was an idiot child I showed up to the Scars of Mirrodin prerelease too early and the store owner gave me a poster with Sunblast Angel's art on it. Cool guy, good times.
>>98557395this badly needs a reprint
Speaking of sunblast angelIs she Atraxa?
>>98557492Possibly. They did Atraxa real dirty. You'd think the sum of the Praetors would end up with the potential to surpass them.
>>98557474wow thats legit awesome. I loved that art. I bought the pre con deck of it just for the foil version of the card >>98557395have you considered this card to protect him?
>>98557531I think the problem was compleating an angel rather than creating something new but I guess the point was to resist the effects of halo.Also had Urabrask decided to show up and help maybe she really would have been stronger
>>98557492She looks more like halfway between indomitable and victory's herald, and not much like the older mirrodin angels maybe besides platinum's helmet
>>98557538Yes, no one is usually trying to kill him, but the portcullis, winter orb, whatever, gets nuked.>inb4 darksteel forge>>98557439That is what I was suspecting, and I hate combo decks, so maybe I'll sell of my cards for this dude.
>>98557708It was mostly the left-handed staff that had me thinkingI know the only real description we have is >Once an angel who fought valiantly to protect Mirran survivors
>>98557395he's only good for protean hulk lines
>>98557748
Where did EDH as a format really go off the rails? Thinking about doing a format with friends that excludes everything post-ixalan, although I'm thinking about going even earlier.
>>98557781Ixalan itself felt like a bit of a turning point. Mutate is crazy shit and triomes are important cards
>>98557781I personally like to build predh but Return to Ravnica felt like a whole new era of the game to me so I'd probably use that as a cutoff if I were not adhering to predh rules.
>>98557781Whenever sets started getting their own commander precons.
have you guys seen the latest secret laid? a literal meme made it as a card for 170$, what?
>>98557961>Costumers that spend more than 149$ on the superdrop will get the Swang Song cardWizard, what the fuck is this?
>>98557961I'm more annoyed that there's not a single unique card in the whole drop. Just a mess of reskins.
>>98554543Tifa has the highest numbers on boorus and you went for AI slop?
>>98557988is fucking horrible what the fuck is this shit, and this?>>98557973 what the fuck, are we playing gacha now with carton cards?
>>98557989How many of them are brapping?
>>98557999>>98557988>>98557973>>98557961>REEEEEEEEEEEE>GOD $150 FOR A SWAN SONG? >ITS JUST ALT ART>REALLY!? >NOTHING MECHANICALLY UNIQUE >THERES NO REASON TO BUY THIS>ITS JUST AN OVERPRICED ALT ART WHO WANTS THIS!?Isn't this best case scenario?
>>98557155-is:ub
>>98557171>FateTypemoon slop is far too problematic for Reddit: the Magic. Too many lolis and attractive women. Though it would be hilarious to see what would essentially be Fate/Stay Night: The Netflix adaptation.
>>98558155>Isn't this best case scenario?No, no it's not. If there isn't anything mechanically unique then there was no point in them doing the drop.
>>98558163those trannies really should make is:uw work too
>>98558206Why would you wany secret lairs to have mechanically unique cards? Stop jacking up card prices faggot
>>98557999>are we playing gacha now with carton cards?you idiot mtg is the first gacha game
>>98558231Because having mechanically unique cards is the only thing that justifies them existing. Otherwise there's no fucking point and they shouldn't be a thing.
>>98558155>NOTHING MECHANICALLY UNIQUEyea, super not worth
>>98558231to accelerate the eventual fuck up wotc will make with them havin legacy playable cards
>>98558255>Fun arts that support the artists making it doesn't enough reason for them to exist. If you say so, but I'm going to write you off like a moron now.
>>98558250no fucking tcg has a pity system like this you dense motherfucker , and yes THIS IS a pity system (spend 149$ for a guaranteed unit)
anyone who buys secret lairs should be dragged through the streets and executed. If I see you with a garfield card at my table I'm going to rape you.
>anyone who buys secret lairs should be dragged through the streets and executed. If I see you with a garfield card at my table I'm going to rape you.
Secret lairs used to be a good value proposition. Needed or desired reprints with new art sold at a flat rate. But as time dragged on the value went down while the price went up. Now every 3rd of 4th lair is actually worth it and nearly all the rest are trash..
>>98558226UW is a technical term that was applied a bit differently, isn't it? it was the name used for series of reprints of UB cards with lore-friendly treatments that I'm pretty sure they said they were going to do for all UB cards and then totally didn't do.off the top of my head, I know the Walking Dead, Street Fighter, and Stranger Things cards got Universes Within reprints. Actually the D&D movie did too which seems quaint at this point
>>98558297>he thinks every gacha has a pity systemholy newfagand mtg does have a pity system too, it's called "finding someone who has the card you want so you can just buy singles", a system far more punishing in the 90s than it is today
>>98558504retard
>>98558432UW has surpassed its original definition and is now the term to use, UW vs UB just sounds better and rolls off the tongue more, not surprised that wotc is incapable of something as basic as branding, picrel
>>98558395I will still take out a HELOC if I have to for the Dark Souls Secret Lair and I will buy ten and scalp nine.
Secret Laid featuring: The DuskblodsTM
>>98557155>And I love the mechanics of some of them but I just can't bring myself to do it. Literally same, hence why I just print out some well made proxies and live my life happilyI've never seen this site shilled here, and it's admittedly a slopcoded piece of crap, but it's also an excellent repository to find decently made stuffhttps://ubdb-472061bbf193.herokuapp.com/
Secret lair: Dad's Army
>>98558644God damn it
>>98558644
>>98557961I know people are going to buy it anyway but just slapping a meme on a card seems lazy.
>>98558687way more interested in knowing what the fanmade kw for Airbend is than I am in the card art or name
>>98558826It's still airbend
>>98558826retard
>>98558378It's funny how often the MtG community bitches about UB without realizing they're the minority in an already comparatively small ecosystem. When Mark says "there isn't enough demand for UW product" he was actually right AT THE TIME and the gap only got larger. UB has larger reach in both width and depth because there's a lot of people that buy UB because the IP is more recognizable than MtG, and even excluding that population, there's another population that's indifferent towards UB and is solely looking at cards mechanically (with a further subpopulation that begrudgingly buys UB cards). The amount of people that would actually buy a set that's all UW reprints of UB cards is very small so it would basically have to be a FTV-tier money set for it to sell (at which point the primary marketing wasn't on the fact it was UW, it was the fact it was a set filled with expensive cards, similar to how Aetherdrift's bonus sheet doesn't mean people suddenly like MtG Mario Kart).MtG's position is uniquely precarious in the modern market because it relies on abnormally high median player spend on top of whale funding. Appealing to a subset of a subset is objectively a stupid decision.
>>98558866>They are the minority Are they though? Do you have data to back this up?
>>98558883No. This faggot makes the same cope posts every time someone criticizes UB here.Next he'll say "FINAL FANTASY LOTR" but conveniently forget Asscreed or Spooderman
>>98558866Honestly, I think the mistake was framing it as a question of "would a full set of exclusively Universes Beyond reprinted into Universes Within sell well?". I don't mind Universes Beyond. Fuck, it's why most of my friends even got into this game. But I liked what they did, in theory, with the Walking Dead and Street Fighter cards. Especially the Walking Dead ones for them all being Innistrad themed. Had they kept that up and released renamed and infinitely reprintable in universe versions of the more desired cards over a long period of time spread out in various sets, it would have been easier to balance.
>>98558866this only applies to commandtards, who all make basedface and shake and cry when they see pop culture slop on new* cards
>>98558883Yes. My source is I worked at WotC for 6 months as a consultant (fake job where you call everyone idiots all the time). The public-facing version of this is how the entire top 3 bestselling sets of all-time are UB sets (FIN, LTR, TLA) despite full UB sets only starting in 2023. The bestselling in-universe sets are MH3 and CMM and I don't think I need to explain how the primary demographic for those wasn't people that loved Magic's history.>>98558929You also going to cope about how Spider-Man made top 10 despite the fact your LGS couldn't sell it because the majority of consumers were Disney adults that didn't play the game even once? Even AssCreed sold more than basically every set 2 and 3 of a block in history.
>>98556640Very cool anon, I love angels even if they're not that good
>>98558980
>>98558198Don't know how much they could Netflix it considering all the master servant talk, not sure you want too many black characters involved in that
>>98558848meh >>98558852?
So what's the ideal lands to have for a deck? Like there's always niche lands for a specific deck, but what about the "that shit goes in every deck" lands?>shocks>bond>fetch>the 5c lands (brass, confluence, orchard, reflecting, etc)>duals?
>>98558973That is literally the exact type of product that doesn't sell. The dropoff between the UB SLD and the UW SLX was colossal which is why they don't want to do them as dedicated product anymore and instead you're only going to sometimes get them bundled in with a larger set.>>98558980That's also the majority of people buying cards for the game as a whole (well actually a large portion doesn't even play the game at all, but Mark tries to soften that by grouping them in with kitchen table players). It's why WotC is looking to eventually phase out Arena (real reason for the worker strike) in favor of a client that runs Commander.
>>98559033That just means they can only blackwash the Masters
>>98558986>Spider-Man made top 10are there publicly available sell-through numbers?
>>98558331The princess bride lair turned an ugly sheboon into my nigga Inigo who is one of the coolest looking cards in the game, and for that I'll always appreciate some of the lairs
>>98558986>how Spider-Man made top 10Top 10 what? Oh, right, distributor sales, not in-store sales or secondary market sales.Shut up simp. Daddy Hasbro will never hire you.
>>98559038Assuming your deck has 2+ colors:1. Fetches until they're banned or restricted (never happening lmao).2. True duals3. Shocks4. Surveils (so you can get them off fetches)5. Command Tower (Yes, fetches are that game-warping)6. Bondlands
>>98559050oh this happened?that's neat
>>98559036>i hate Aang(pop culture slop)>but i LOVE the homebrew black niggress cards
>>98559038At all times I consider whether I can lean for basic synergies and non-basic hate. In 3+ colors I typically only run Command Tower, Exotic Orchard, check lands, and tango lands. Enough to get the colors I need but also not be crippled when Blood or Winter Moon land.
do we have to have the same arguments every thread? If it isn't about UB it's about blacks and if isn't about that it's about the OP.
>>98558331You will have fun playing against my Y'Shtola deck that has MLP lands, signet, and ring, as well as the various Miku cards like Swan Song and Counterspell.
>>98559101yeah lets talk about the format instead...
>>98559087I didn't say or imply either of those things and I have no idea how you got any of that from my post. I don't love or hate either of the cards in that picture, I was just curious to know if the person who made the proxy had come up with a more neutral term for the keyword, like WotC did with Webslinging on Arena and modo last year
>>98559113I think we should talk about how much we hate the top 100 edhrec commanders instead
>>98559050>That is literally the exact type of product that doesn't sell.I think I may have explained what I wanted incorrectly. I mean I wanted them to work the reprints into existing sets as a bonus sheet like they did in Wilds Of Eldrane. Just without the fucked rarity and scarcity Greymond got.
I cast Black Spider-Man, your go
>>98559065>>98559074Here's some public-facing numbers for you to ignore.https://seller.tcgplayer.com/blog/top-selling-magic-the-gathering-cards-on-tcgplayer-september-2025https://seller.tcgplayer.com/blog/bestselling-trading-card-games-q4-2025But hey I guess that Soul Stone demand came from nowhere and all of this sales volume is fake.
>>98559101My only complaint with UB is when it's totally out of wack with the rest of the game. UB that's fantasy based like LOTR and FF (sorta) is fine by me, but shit like Marvel and TMNT just feels stupid to me and should be SLD exclusive.>inb4 what about Aether and EdgeThey don't fit either. MTG should stick to wizards and fantasy creatures.
>>98559128I kind of like some of them. I don't happen to play any of them but I like what some of them do.
>>98559050>That is literally the exact type of product that doesn't sellHas there been that? As far as I was aware some of the Stranger Things cards were made into The List inserts.
Do you guys see the "new" players who started playing in the last 3 or so years improving and growing? Like are they building more personalized decks, understanding the rules better, and playing better than they were a year ago? I feel like there are some people at my LGS I sit down with and I'm still having to explain some really basic game rules and mechanics to who are still just kinda shit at threat assessment despite being at FNM every single week for a year.
>>98559152>These reports show the name and set of the Magic cards with the highest total number of copies sold on the TCGplayer Marketplace between September 1 and 31, 2025. Read your own article you stupid, autistic NIGGER.
>>98559157I personally got the hate when a friend of mine started to only builds commanders from the top 20. Don't hate them but I get why others do now
>>98559168Anon, in 2026 tcg players just buy the card if they look cute or good, that's it. None of them care about the mechanics.
>>98559128I know it's a shit take, but I like Y'Shtola. Yes she's supreme slop, BUT her "do anything draw card" ability means you never get fucked by bad draw. The moment she gets something like curiosity or ophidian eye, she becomes completely bananas.All the top commanders share the same "this commander prevents RNG from buffucking you" as their central gimmick. You either can cheat in stuff (and not need to be at the mercy of land drops), or you can draw a ton of cards (and negate RNG).
>>98559152>the top selling single in September was the chase mythic coommander ramp piece that came out that month>the top selling game that quarter was mtg... which it always isI don't think either of these data points demonstrates anything about SPM's popularity vs other sets, anon.
>>98559130You're never going to get a bonus sheet without fucked rarity. That's how WotC operates now.>>98559161One card got this treatment right before they entirely abolished The List. Arvinox, the Mind Flail (Mind Flayer, the Shadow) was also reprinted in a DSK precon.
>>98559168I'd say maybe 90% of people that show up to the LGS for the first time stop doing so after a few months.
is it considered rude in EDH to counter and or kill creature the enemy controls and or attack the enemy?
>>98559213Yes, interacting with the table is rude.
>>98559212you can say this about any hobby
>>98559213I got called rude for countering a Sol Ring
>>98559177>>98559198>Hmm yes the most sold card for Q4 came from SPM, which was the #2 card across all card games, but surely there's no correlation between this and demand for the setYou got mogged by fucking Disney adults willing to spend 2x as much for an awful set buying packs and promo cards (bundled with action figure!) from Walmart.
>>98559233did the other two players, on whose behalf you jumped on that particular grenade by going down a card, have any input to offer?
>>98557155no and there is no reason to since magic is inspired directly by Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit. Dungeons and Dragons (core set 2021) is also a 2nd party "universe beyond" set but is not classified as such but like MTG, was also inspired by LOTR. Final Fantasy is a Japanese take on high fantasy with also influence from Tolkien. So all those sets you'd want to use since they are essential universe withinmarvel, Spiderman, tmnt I get though. its just too bad theres really not a way to filter out high fantasy from other sloppa. avatar is also mostly cancerous with all the bending abilities hope this helps
>>98559241Nope, they just sat there and didn't really say anything about it
just play solitare
>>98559067I like how there was an effort to draw an accurate hilt, much unlike Evereth (I've always suspected she's part AI)
>>98559233desu it was probably a bad play depending on the pod power level. if you know someone's deck can turbo into a win then yeah. if it's just "upgraded precon" zone then you're almost always better off letting them eat aggro from the whole pod and keeping your interaction for actually stopping a win or defending your win.
>>98559237I'm not saying there's no correlation, I mean obviously the demand wasn't zero, I just don't see how that shows the set sold more packs than any other given set.Like I'll bet the #1 TCG by sales in May 2013 was mtg, and the #1 sold card was probably Voice of Resurgence, but that doesn't prove that Dragon's Maze was a better seller than any other given set, right?
There comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe nor politic nor popular, but he must do it because conscience tells him it is right.
>>98559274It was his Hakbal deck, not the upgraded precon but built from the ground up. I just needed to slow down his ramping a little bit he already had cost reducers for his Merfolk so I just didn't want him having anything too big coming for us
>>98559237>UB ALWAYS sells better than UW!>>Proof>Well if you look at this very specific quarter and this very specific metric you can see that people bought this commander staple, and if you look at the release month of the set this specific UB came out in you'll see that a lot of people bought a UB card from that set!This is how you argue you stupid pedo.Kill yourself.
>>98559168Honestly, yeah and I think UB will be responsible for it. For new players being brought in by those properties the beginner boxes and Arena are a convenient option where previously there were only commander precons in that space. Not all of them will stick around or move beyond that and plenty will immediately buy a precon without trying other formats much, but it's still more opportunities for new players to develop an understanding of the fundamentals in 60 card before moving to commander.
>>98559251lol are you friends with these people?
>>98559213yes, it's pretty much forbiddenjust accrue creatures until you draw into a craterhoof and can kill the whole table in the same turnyou need not worry about counterspells/protection, since wraths are also rude and others won't run them
>>98559316what's wrong about countering sol ring?
>>98559245>nouhbut there is a Scryfall filter for that actually
>>98559309The amount of times I've seen someone make a blatantly horrible decision and end up handing someone else the game has only gone up since UB started oversaturating the market.
>>98559290Would>>98559316Long time friends, I knew the guy I countered since 7th grade. I guess they just wanted to play and know that this is how my friend gets
>>98559290I love the entire He-Man drop. So many new cards for my all-UB Buttercup deck.
>>98559213yeeah, every time I bring one sided destruction I get accused of pubstomping even tho none of them are GCs
That happened
>>98559302That seems like a fair time to do it that deck (simic value town) needs the speed. Sorry for doubting you.
Damn
>>98558986>My source? I made it the fuck up
>>98559357If everypony wins, nopony wins.
>>98559357>not legal in any formatI'm still amazed they haven't made a MLP set so far.
>>98559181>only builds commanders from the top 20See this I get the hate for. I don't mind if someone happens to have a top 100 commander but if they look to that top 100 hundred list as the only thing to build then I do.
>>98559308Q4 2025 (which included Avatar, the #3 set of all-time) still has Soul Stone as the most-traded single in MtG. Of course you're never happy with numbers because you've already made up your mind regardless of facts. Every in-universe set that sells poorly is an outlier. Every UB set that sells well (literally fucking all of them including "bad" ones like TMT) is an outlier.Mark will never suck your dick bro and they're not going back. They can charge literally twice as much for UB sets and still get more volume off them than the biggest in-universe sets because the reality you're not facing is that MtG players are addicts that will buy regardless and UB IPs are all larger than MtG so they inherently have more draw than the 4th return to Ravnica.
>>98558687I think you're safe to make your own proxies, anonMake sure to share them here when you can!
>>98559398>enjoy playing both Zhulodok and Ulalek>get double shat on for playing top 100 and playing EldraziI cri erry tiem
>>98558687I don't see the issue personally
Finally picked up both commanders for the monogreen control deck I've been threatening to build. Any cards I may not know about that I should consider?
>mfw the dead containment thread retards are uppity again
>>98559331nothing, stopping a player from getting two turns ahead on mana is one of the only turn one plays you would consider countering in a casual game that's why I think the other two players should have been supportive of the play>>98559339well if he's your friend and that's how he gets then it is what it is I guess
>>98559399>as the most-traded single in MtGThat's how staples work, dipshit. When they come out, everyone wants to try to get one, but that doesn't equate to sales overall.If three people buy a pack of Bloomburrow for Maha, three buy a pack of Bloomburrow for Baylen, and five people buy a pack of Superheroes for the Mind Stone, which single sold more but which set sold more?>You're never happyBecause you're a retarded autistic shitter who posts the same bad arguments every thread and never fixes them, because you're the stupidest regular here.TMNT did not sell well either you stupid nigger. You don't even have a chase mythic you can point at and say "w-w-well people bought it for this!" The closest you have is Krang, which isn't pulling staple levels on edhrec.Goddamn dude. Get a life and find a new hobby besides "shitting up /edhg/ when it gets to 250 posts.'
>>98559399when this gets to 375 I'm going to bake with gay bolas links just to annoy you lmao
>>98559442What the fuck is monogreen control? A monogreen stax deck with Six at the helm is somewhat believable but you just posted two random dorks. Explain yourself.
>>98559399I just don't think it makes sense to equate the popularity of a single chase commander card with the popularity of the set, like I don't see how it follows at allif they printed Swat at mythic in Star Trek then it would definitely be the #1 mover in November but that wouldn't necessarily mean that a bunch of people were buying packs
>>98559506I mean I guess if you make a jillion mana then Halana can kill stuff repeatedly on creature etb which could control a board state for a while. you'd have to be ahead though I confess I don't understand what Kamahl is doing here other than being a free big card in the cz
>>98559468MSH sold more because people also pull for avengers and dr. doom and shitdo you really think people pull for maha other than its powerlevel lmao you have a good chance of triggering retards with it more than anything because MAHA lol
>>98559506neither of those do what dorks do. try reading them again
>>98559411I too wish to see more custom proxies, in whatever form they may take,
>>98559557Why are you being obtuse on purpose?
I can NOT wait to fogloop a timmy running this.
>>98559468Source: My imagination
I want to build this little retard not with the intent of winning, but purely with the goal of making everyone as miserable as possible trying to gamble to get whatever bullshit I topdeck. What are some cards that immediately ruin the game as soon as someone casts them, but DON'T remove lands or give them a way to remove itazura? I'm talking shit like omniscience or emrakul.
>>98559577you started it, dork
>>98559506>>98559535Deathtouch tribal so opponents aren't allowed to have creatures. Toolbox of creatures like rec sage and the like that can be tutored up to deal with other permanents. The weird old cards like Lifeforce. Kamahl is an overrun that's only played when it's time to close out the game, potentially with Fynn since the creatures are already deathtouchers.
>>98559468>Good UB set shoots into top 5 set of all-time>Bad UB set still occupies #1 slot for quarter>Good UW set gets #1 slot for quarter>Bad UW set gets outsold during its own release windowIt doesn't take a genius to see the hierarchy here.
>>98556524>I even commissioned art of insect girls for all the tokensI forgot to post them, it covers all the colour and ability combos of the tokens the deck makes.I got them from a drawfriend that is sometimes in this thread and then had them printed but fucked up so they have a white border reeee
I get if you personally dont hate or even like some universes beyond sets, but imagine shilling them every thread every day for free. WOTC isnt going to fuck you, bro.
>>98559629i would be scared of playing with someone that brings this shit to a lgs table
>>98559640Imagine impotently raging about UB every single day not realizing that there's maybe, just maybe, a reason half the sets are now UB.
>>98559654>i would be scared of playing with someone that brings this shit to a lgs tableWhy?
>>98559654You are weak
>>98559662why? just look at your cards
>>98559545>for avengers and dr. doom and shitLOL you can't even name what someone would want from Superheroes besides the stone.>do you really think people pull for maha other than its powerlevel"Do you really think people pull (card) for a reason other than why they would want it" is already a retarded argument, but where's this logic for the Mind Stone?Concession accepted that you omitted Baylen too, to avoid the point that secondary market value demand an sales being distributed among a set matter more than the sale of any individual card. That should be obvious to anyone with a brain, but the more people that want a set for multiple reasons, the more that set is usually going to sell.We actually have a metric we can use to guess this in the Estimated Value of a booster box.https://theexpectedvalue.com/play-ev/blbYou can give the other sets a glance, but let me give the rundown: EoE boxes have more card value than The Hobbit right now, Ninja Turtles did abysmal, SoS isn't doing that great, link related is extremely popular, TLA and FF are doing extremely well. Superheroes is modest, but not as good as even the likes of Dragonstorm.
>>98559670I'm not even that guy. I just wonder if you're afraid of the smell or if he's that invested in his deck that its going to steam roll you.
>>98559629i would be disgusted of playing with someone that brings this shit to a lgs table
>>98559654They are mostly for kitchen table games.I had to ask for the recolour of the body on the beetle but ended up printing both
>>98559624>>Bad UB set still occupies #1 slot* for quarter*A single card occupied #1 slot for the quarter*A single card that's a mana rock*While the rest of the set eats shit>>98559673lmao
so much of the art in hobbit looks AI generated but i cant prove it. it just has the vibe.
>>98559673>Gambling addict cites EV as only reason to pull>Doesn't notice every set is neg EVPoetry
>>98559688none of that
>>98559423
>>98559662Autists are afraid of attractive women and/or insects
>>98559694Nonsense lighting
>>98559692>Already inventing excuses to make it not countAs expected, you'll do anything to remain in denial. But hey, I'm sure they'll stop doing UB any day now because WotC is doing this for no reason at all!
>>98559702I really, really like this image.
>>98559694God i hate google ai overviewThe actual artist has some good stuff but I see what you mean as it having the "feeling" of ai even though i dont think it ishttps://www.artstation.com/akreon
>>98559713>WotC is doing this for no reason at all!disney/marvel adults are a good source of income I imagine (big crossover with cringemander players)
>>98559696That wasn't the argument being made, nor is it even true.https://theexpectedvalue.com/play-ev/ecl
>>98559673>LOL you can't even name what someone would want from Superheroes besides the stone.do i really have to name the main 4 avengers for you? are UW white knights really this autistic and stupid?>...but baylen was a home run! it has to be!kekypow>superheroes was modest>ceo chris cocks comes out and says it did very well, to the point that he doesn't want msh vs ff comparisonshttps://articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/magic-the-gathering-marvel-super-heroes-sets-record-for-day-1-and-month-1-revenue/>noooo he must be lying!!!!lol
>>98559700then say why you mong
>>98559703Why do you faggots always pretend like if we don't want to see your paedomorphic weeb shit that we don't appreciate hot women. Is it because you don't know what real women even look like?
>>98559713Anon, Superheroes isn't selling. The Mind Stone being something every whitefag us trying to grab doesn't mean the rest of the set is selling because there's not much for everyone else.I gave you numbers to prove this already.Take the L gracefully.
>>98559732not enough monster variety
>>98559726>disney/marvel adults are a good source of income I imagineyou know what aren't good sources of income? mtg players (big crossover with /mtg/)
>>98559738>paedomorphicimagine making up words because you got mad at a drawing
>>98559748They're bugs.
>>98559727>Open box>Lose money>This is positive EV
>>98559479I'm waiting
>>98559752>you know what aren't good sources of income? mtg playersat what point did this happen?
>>98559756Building the case that weebs are retarded, probably why you're so enamored with cartoons still.
>>98559758bro those are monsters in any universe
>>98559728>do i really have to name the main 4 avengers for you?You're literally just going "well people will buy anything with a superhero on it!" Some of us are adults.>He's back to citing distributor numberspic rel then >>98559074.You're arguing in circles now, you stupid pedophile.
>>98559775>says the commander playerlol
>>98559775Lmao ur assblasted
>>98559728Nobody watches avengers shit. Infinity War and Endgame were the most astroturfed movies of all time that nobody actually watched.
>>98559771>>98559801>>98559801>>98559801
>>98559782>UB doesn't sell!!>it actually does retard>ok fine, but at least we're not disney adults!!>you do know that 'mtg adults' doesn't exist as a concept because mtg as an IP is godfucking awful and nonexistent right?>aaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeee
>>98559761>Market Price $123.53>Gross EV $127.97
>>98559797the number of nobodies watching avengers shit is still astronomically more than the number of nobodies reading mtg lore (which might as well be a negative number)
>>98559809You've lost the plot so hard that you're no schizoing an entire conversation.Meds. NOW.Then we can compare numbers and see if the secondary market demand for even The Hobbit matches EoE.
>>98559847>you...you lost the plot!UW fags lost that's for sure they can't even get main billing everybody is waiting for the UB sets next year
>>98559882I'm hyped for not-UB: Subnautica, not-UB: Pacific Rim, and not-UB: BLM!
>>98559889Me too, xister!
>>98559882>TMNT>Gross EV>$85.99
>>98559913What was dragon maze's EV again, adjusted for inflation?
>>98559965>Oh, yeah, well what about this set from 13 years agoishygddt
>>98559479soul stone will never hit that but Gleaming Splendor book cover foil will. its already over 200 and rising and I'm gonna trade it for a true dual when it does(s-shot this post)
>>98560002>adjusted for inflation?>uh oh look at the time gotta go fast!!Haha that's right you better run
UB is good becuase I freakin love Spiderman I have his poster on my wall and everything and if I open Thor (hate that white power guy) i can just sell him for some more Funko Pop money!
>>98560067Dont buy mtg funkos btw, they suck ass
>>98559168I'm one of those new fags that got drawn in by final fantasy and I feel like I'm improving in the sense of fucking hell there's a lot of cards and effects to remember but I'm starting to, and I'm gonna try to make a few less combat centric ones, try to make an alt win con deck of some sort soon
>>98557395He's good for voltron (no more getting 2 for 1'd), and playing big fuck you spells. I have a deck with a bunch of ramp and hurricane/et al.
>>98560015Look at the time. It's time for your meds!
>>98560248I wish I had meds to take...
>>98557395Creature tap effects are not spells...
>>98560287So do I, schizo.
>>98560248>still no dragons maze ev adjusted for inflationI accept your concession
>>98560308I tap my forest and then adjust these balls for inflation
>>98560322I tap UU and cast UB Domination, i win
>>98560345I call over a referee and slip him a 20, my spell resolves
>>98560363>the referee
>>98559575My favourite one from the archive is this one, it's some gay ass Doctor Who art otherwiseThe art and flavour are top notch
>>98558644>https://ubdb-472061bbf193.herokuapp.com/what a cancerous site holy CROW, jack>search transit mageno big tiddy alter there just because its "universe within"? but its worse than most of the "UB" stuff (most of which is good other than c ape slop/TMNT etc)YIIIKES
>>98560989Anon, it's specifically proxies for UW slopShit art MTG is shit MTG art, you can proxy it super easily with any proxy serviceThis is specifically for names/flavour/art combined
>>98558644This sucks.>>98560989Transcending history and the world, a tale of souls and swords, eternally retold.
>>98560989just make every card art I dont like into a negro, thank you that is so much better than freaking Aang on my heckin Magic the Gathering (based and grounded, realistic card game) cards
>>98561048cute
>>98561320UGLY TRASH
>>98561339that's no way to describe your mother
>>98561359
kino
>japanese farewell isn't sayonaraone fucking job...
