Mean and Green Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Battle March General's Compendiumhttps://mega.nz/file/tP5STCAS#4yDuu8WLk-Mn4Ut2pe7x7AWwxJmEjXW5cvV0xtwMWD4>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>98547851>Thread Question:Who's your favorite Orc (or Goblin) character?
I really want to say Skarsnik, but I have to go with Grimgor.
Gorfang RotgutHaving an orc try running a city rather than just being a nomadic wanderer is pretty interesting
>>98557842Scroll up through the thread you posted in, read the post listing the current prices for those skaven models on the second hand market, and decide for yourself.
>>98558334Dis git stole my answer >>98558382! Besides Gorfang, my next favourite is Gorbad Ironclaw. >super smart>among the most successful military campaigns in the setting>bog standard Orc boss who is super smart militarily>one of the deadliest magic weapons in Morgor the Mangler>kills two elector counts>tanks a runefang through the chest in contrast to gorthor who inata died. >has arguably the best ending of an orc character and didn't suffer from ET fluffHis narrative ends with him and a handful of orcs surrounded by Dwarfs atop a mountain of their corpses. His original fluff has him fight his way through and escape
>>98558568I like him too, he had an alliance with Skarsnik.
>>98558568This looks like something that got gangbanged between warcraft and blood bowl and got censored so they could air it on boomerang.
>If there’s a whip, there’s a way!
Are you ready for lahmian handmaidens?
>all /wfg/ posters were just faggots shitting up /40kg/I knew nobody played your shit game
>>98558913Very sad we'll never see these in TOW. I'd love a vampire infantry unit.
>>98558930this about the Squatting of Space Marine models?
>>98558410>bongbuxUUUGGGGHHHHHHHHHconverted to USD- Throt the Unclean (older, not found in M2O): $23- Throt the Unclean (newer, found in M2O): $55-82, one available for $44 but damaged.- Ikit Claw: $41- Warlord Spinetail: $164- Lord Skrolk: $38- Packmaster Skweel Gnawtooth: $75- Death Master Snikch (the older one): $75- Death Master Snikch (the newer one found in the M2O): $95- Plague Lord Nurglitch: $68- Queek Headtaker (older): $61- Queek Headtaker (newer, found in M2O): $82-$123, $123 is still sealed.- Warpgnaw Verminlord (FW): $239- Verminlord (older, but is in the M2O): $55- Tretch Craventail (approx): $88not in the mto:- Thanquol (without Boneripper): $48- Thanquol & Boneripper: $95Available in the MTO:- Warpgnaw Verminlord: $109- Classic Verminlord: $60- Deathmaster Snikch: $36.50- Warlord Spinetail: $36.50- Plaguelord Nurglitch: $36.50- Skweel Gnawtooth: $36.50- Queek Headtaker: $36.50- Tretch Craventail: $36.50- Lord Skrolk: $36.50- Throt the Unclean: $36.50- Ikit Claw: $36.50approximate price on used market: $1000 (shipping/bong tax not withstanding)total price for mto: $497.50
>>98558930I don’t give a shit, I keep to my lane unlike you.
>>98558960We might get Jade Vampires down the line if GW gets its knickers untwisted about Cathayian body horror since it's very clear China itself doesn't care about that anymore
>>98559004They'd have to bring VC out of exile, and with AOS still having a full vampire line I don't see that happening. I wouldn't be above stealing some Cathay models for my own use if by some miracle they get vampires, though.
>>98558960Those old Blood Dragons on foot were amazing models, shame they were meant as characters only. A unit of them would've been lovely.
>>98558930I was a 40k only fag until a few months ago, ToW Battlemarch is way more fun for me and the boys than 40k is in 11th right now.
>>98559193I really loved 40k pre 8th, but I also played Fantasy. So while I don't like or play 40k now, at least TOW is basically just a greatest hits of 6th-8th. Hopefully next edition 40k is changed drastically so I can enjoy and play it too.
>>98558913IS THAT AN ASIAN VAMPIRE WAIFU AWOOOOOGA
>>98559193Battlemarch is boring as shit, I will never understand what people see in it. It’s such a flawed format that only exacerbates the flaws of tow. >>98559204Really? 8th is where you draw the line for 40k? Not 7th or 6th? At least try to larp that 5th was great.
>>98559232>Really? 8th is where you draw the line for 40k? Not 7th or 6th? At least try to larp that 5th was great.The core gameplay of 3rd-7th was similar enough to be recognizable. It had the same skeleton. 8th onwards is an unrecognizable game. There were better and worse balanced editions, 3-7 don't play anything like 8-11th. Might as well call it a different game in the same setting.
>>98559291Okay you’re gonna just post some copy pasted opinion that you got from some YouTuber. Nice “conversation”.
>>98559232>I will never understand what people see in it.Less commitment since it's shorter, requires fewer models to assemble and paint for your army, and it's a smaller board.
>>98559300You seem like you have a chip on your shoulder, as I said, I enjoyed what 40k was from 4th to 7th (didn't play 3rd). I do not like what 40k is now or what it turned into post 7th. Take that as you will.Also I love TOW and MESBG.
>>98559321Yes let’s completely defeat the purpose of a rank and flank while still keeping all of the baggage surrounding it and let’s have incredibly smaller boards! Oh and despite the smaller board, the set up time is still cumbersome.
>>98559321A big thing too is that it allows for an easier entry point into the game as a whole. Telling someone to start a game with a standard size of 2-2.5k and sometimes upwards of 100 miniatures is a harder sell than offering an entry point of a 400-700 point game with 1/4-1/3 of the miniatures. It's less overwhelming.
>>98559352For all the issues that came with 8th, its ruleset was a complete fresh breath of air for the game since 5th introduced multiple issues that only got worse with 7th being the absolute shit show that it was. It’s frankly a wonder why gw decided to use the skeleton of 7th for HH and it proved to be to the games demerit. >>98559355Mr gw sir, we don’t do same fagging here. No need to repeat your sales bitch.
>>98559419>likes 8th onwards>dislikes HHLet me guess, you don't like TOW but enjoy AoS?
>>98558930there isn't really anything to talk aboutany discussion about units and rules just leads to stupid arguments with people who don't actually play the gameone can only post pretty pictures of their models so many times before it stops being interestingwhat do you want to talk about regarding Warhammer Fantasy, anon?
Dark Elves when? Theyre so expensive now I shoulda have stocked up even more
>>98559531You can still find some in third party stores within the EU. Otherwise you're going to have to wait maybe even a year. But I am pretty sure Dark Elves are a matter of when and not if.
>>98559457>likes 8th onwardsWhere did I say that? I just said it’s a better game to play than 40k was for both of 7th and 6ths editions slogs. And I have given third edition HH a try which seemed to actually have had a vision more than what its 1st or second edition had. Second literally needed several community patches to be called a game. >like tow or Aos Aos was playable in second edition and aside from playing some games of spearhead last year, I haven’t interacted with it beyond that. TOW killed my 6th edition scene for fb so I’ve only participated in its 4000+ tag team tournaments point tournaments that get hosted maybe every other month here and there. Really, I tolerate tow, but prefer fb.
Have you taken the Warmaster pill yet anon?
>>98559580If there was a local scene for Warmaster I would 100% jump in. IDC if the game is even good or not, I love the scale. But I shouldn't complain because the country I now live in has a very very active Fantasy/TOW and MESBG scene so all my real needs are covered.
>>98559580No, I like my 28mm models and I feel no need to collect an entirely new army for 10mm.
>>98559539Managed to find some dreadspears just now, I think I have20 dreadspears/Crossbowmen10 old metal executioners10 old metal witches1 painted sorceress5 Cold One Knights
>>98559580If I could find skaven models for it.
>>98559693Based, make sure to post your painting progress and lore for /yourdude/. I look forward to reading what you think up lad.
need new cold ones asapto kitbash into exodites
>>98559693I have 20 dreadspears and I want to make them 24.What kind of unit filler should I make?
>>98559693I hoarded DElves too, altough I bought mostly new boxes.16 spearmen/crossbowmen+25 used spearmen/crossbowmen5 cold one riders5 doomfire warlocks/dark riders10 executioners/black guards1 black dragonold metal standard bearerold metal sorceress on dark pegasus (pic related)1 blister with r. boltthrower1 old r. bolt throwerneed to buy 10 more black guards somewhere.
>>98560033Forgot pic.Oh, I forgot, I bought plastic sorceress too.
>>98560033i'm really mad at myself for not buying a NIB Black Dragon for $60 when I could, like what a silly mistake. I need more Dark Riders and maybe a Hydra>>98559929I'm debating making them Hag Graef with cult of pleasure undertones as I always wanted to do them when SoC was happening but was too broke as a teen. This time could be different. I did get gifted the old metal chaos lord on a steed of slaanesh... I could use it as a pegasus proxy...
>>98559580No, but 10mm seems to be having a bit of a resurgence in interest recently, not just Warmaster
>>98560123>I'm debating making them Hag Graef with cult of pleasure undertones as I always wanted to do them when SoC was happening but was too broke as a teen. This time could be different. I did get gifted the old metal chaos lord on a steed of slaanesh... I could use it as a pegasus proxy...Kino, and you absolutely should use him as a proxy and simply write him up as the leader of your local cult.>>98560278It's a shame GW was retarded and decided to revive the epic scale in the fucking HH dud setting of all settings. If they had done 40k or Fantasy I am sure it would have done waaaaaaaaaay better.
>>98560313I can at least understand doing Legion Imperialis since they were already doing Adeptus Titanicus and that set in the HH, but if it was something like Battlefleet Gothic or Warmaster a mirror-match game would never work
>>98560313You say that but horus heresy is a very 'safe' setting because one range accounts for like 90% of the armies. If you were to set it in say fantasy you gotta make at least 5 or 6 ranges just to start with. Same goes for 40k. While with horus heresy you just make the one and you immediately get 18 marine legions.
>>98559580I tried it a couple weeks ago myself. Going to ultimately say not a fan. It looks fantastic on the table but the rules vary from terrible to good. It wants to be a more strategic game but its own mechanics make it into a game of yahtzee. I appreciate its goal and ambition but it's just not for me.Though I will say I really like pushback as a mechanic. Makes shooting a very interesting battlefield tactic.
>>98560313I have similiar idea - bros before hoes DE army - without any wyches, centered around black guard of Naggarond.
>>98558680It is an odd hybrid, even one youtube channel said almost the same thing. But the design started to grow on me a lot. Guy looks like a beast.
>>98558628Gorfang Rotgut is also one of the few, niche characters who actually had an astounding record against other named characters, be it in fighting just general exposure>forged alliance with Skarsnik>fought king khazador>fought his son>fought and killed a rival black orc warboss>fought and defeated queek headtaker who killed a black orc warboss>fought and defeated Belegar>if he didn't get impaled by a ballista, he could have taken thorgrim. Still uppercutted him. He died by ET but he had one of the best and dignified deaths.
Who within a major Empire of Man City would know anything about lizard men and that includes people who all like witch Hunters or religious figures or dwarves or elves who live in the city are doing work?
>>98560450Academics, wizards, Merchants maybe. high elves do know a bit; I don't think Dwarfs know much or care much about Lustria pic wrote an in-universe article about Lizardmen, and that article is about in line with what an educated person would know about Lustria and the Lizardmen. Admittedly, that article also references out-of-universe things like a Warhammer Monthly strip so take that for what you will
>>98559580i tried it, its cute but all said and done not as satisfying to hobby as full size warhammer
>>98560445I use his old model as my standard bearer. Here with his best pal, Skarsnik.
>>98559580not really Warmaster, but planning on switching WHFB to Hail Caesar using rebased armies. Probably going to base most infantry on 60mm wide multibases.
What would a ghoul baggage cart look like? A crypt horror carrying a bunch of meat chunks and/or live victims back to the tomb?
>>98560692>Hail CaesarWhy not just make a new army for Hail ceaser?It's not like any of the WFB are good historical proxies
>>98560721well I like the Warhammer setting and want to play games with those armies, I just don't care for the rules
>>98558382>>98558568>>98560445>>98560568Appreciating the love for Gorfang in this thread.
right now, on the 40k general many anons fed up with GW' latest fuckery are seriously discussing starting a mass 40k grog movement to return to the pre-slop editions should we sent our support ?
>>98561107>GW's latest fuckeryWhat happened ?
>>98561121James just announced mass squatto-ciding of all remaining non-primaris marine units
>>98561121they just squatted fully half of the space marine range. considering something like 80% of all armies are space marine armies, this is a big deal for that game.
>>98561128The half noone was using anymore, to be fair
>>98561125>>98561128Holy fuck, even according to GW's usual standards, this is downright wickedThere are days where I really wonder why I keep giving money to these leeches
>>98561159>I really wonder why I keep giving money to these leechesYet you will continue regardless
>>98561125-> >>98561121To put it in simple words, GW removed almost ALL classic and canonical SM units like predator tank or tactical squad, forcing people to literally rebuy their whole armies. So if you liked your DOW 1 units - they are all gone. Codex Astartes went to the bin.
Wrong thread motherfuckers
>>98561202Good. If you have classical 40k models and you're playing 11th edition you deserve to suffer and be punished. All the 40k addicts will bitch and moan, and then go ahead and buy a whole new army anyways.
>>98561181I confess :'-(
>>98561232Slave.
>>98561202What's stopping people from simply using their tac squads as primaris intercessors™, or their rhinos as primaris floatiboxae™?
>>98561159Is it tho'?James killed off whole game (WFB), then squatted 1/3 of the stormcast eternals in AoS - and spent last 10 years squatting firstborns.
I feel more anger for the good chaos warriors being squatted than I could feel for any marines being shoved down the shute.
>>98561274The problem with intercessors is, they lack options tactical squad had, like plasma guns, heavy bolters or meltas. So you can use your marines with bolters, but you can't use special or heavy weapons that made tactical squad a tactical squad.
>>98561283I wonder how long it'll take before the 2004 chaos warriors go back to their pre-TOW prices on the second hand market. They were getting pretty bad there, for a while.
>>98561274In my area, the best city in the world, Los Angeles, there are shitloads of autists with money who play tourney style only and leave no room for playing with squatted or proxied models, and/or the manager won't allow it (money).This only applies to 40k though. The TOW players aren't that autistic about tourney behavior and much less prone to tard tantrums.
How is there not a single army of infamy for the empire that lets you take flagellants and all the other religious shit.
>>98561430>you take flagellants and all the other religious shit.Isn't that just the Knights of the Fiery Heart list?
Found out today that the Dark Beneath the World short-story, from Trollslayer was also a playable scenario.Pretty neat desu
This region can be so interesting and, although it has potentiality to create /yourdudes/, it still feels barebones in places that are fully set in fluff. Take Akendorf for instance, maybe the largest settlement in all the Border Prices, it's pretty underdeveloped
>>98561440Huh, yeah that’s nice->can’t make a lector a general But why.
Is there any particular reason why Wood Elf Lord's Bowmen and Eternal Champions get a respective 25 and 50 point magic item allowance, but their High Elf counterparts for Archers and Spearmen do not?
>>98561860Yeah
>>98559580Yes.>>98559902They're out there. The Green Skin Miniatures ones are probably the best, but Cromarty has an eastern style set too.
Flagellants should be core.
>>98561605I wish GW would release a new Mercenaries/Dogs of War supplement for TOW with rules for making up your own mercenary company/regiment of renown I also want them to give mercenaries a darker lore than all the humor and whimsy in 5th ed Dogs of War, something more along the lines of ASOIAF's mercenary companies
i like lothern seaguard a lot but think regular helf units are kinda uggocould i just use dark elf dreadspears and add some seaguard bits to make them less evil looking
>>98559321I don't personally find that that games are shorter. What dictates if a game is short or not is how experienced players are and how many units they have.I have a 2k bret army with 4 units and it plays jsut as fast as 750pts of my VC with also 4 units.Having to paint less models is great for newcomers but tow plays great at 1k points too for almost as many models. I think it's more of a psychological thing desu. I like the random events though, they're really fun.
why did they pick the age of the three emperors if they were gonna do nothing with it
roman style plumes on empire knights, yay or nay?
>>98562679Is that mohawk style or peacock?
>>98562802mowhawk
>>98562826Might be neat. Round shields may complement them too.
>>98562679Retarded idea for empire. >>98562826Mowhawks are greek
>>98561107Retards were warned about this 10 years ago.
Im kinda close to be finished with reading the vampire war books, this stuff was kinda bad.
>>98561107Yeah yeah. And then GW will preview the NEW Primarishartian Globulflobularian Killmongers unit and all those shits will go running back to suckle on GW's teat, just as all the people who whined about 7th and 8th editions played those anyway rather than sticking with 6th, and loads of the people who whined about ET ended up playing AoS or TOW.
