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If I must die simply because I live..
Venerable Dreadnought is not last chance to buy. Heck it's not even online only.Is this because of Grey Knights or what? They even have one for their Combat Patrol?
>>98566185This one.
What are you all working on? I don't know how to do gore so got really lazy on this chaplain I don't even need in my army.
>>98566185>TQNot a one. My Iron Warriors regularly bring all my Heresy era dread and the decimator engine along since the only hobby scene here is a friends basement we built tables for a nobody cares about play legends units. One of my ork kans is also a looted boxnaught. I’ll buy boxnaughts out of spite to run as Hellbrutes since that kit is objectively ass.
TQ. 5 boxnaughts and 2 stormravens. Already ordered a new resin printer.
>>98566206Genuinely don't give me hope dude. That's cruel. Don't break my heart
>>98566185>How many Dreads has GW forced you to shelfThese 4 and another one I got on sprue.
>>98566185>TQZero, because I haven't played the [current edition] for ages now.
>>98566185im buying a brutallus and leviathan dreadnought next month. I will also buy the new boxnought when they announce it. ( Dreadnoughts are peak)
Hopefully better photograph
>>98566208Its this. GW has a policy of not sending anything to Legends as long as they are still selling it, and the GK Combat Patrol is still on sale. Until they make a new Combat Patrol, you can still buy and play Venerable Dreads for Grey Knights only.
>>98566190>>98566196I think GW will give DE a good update if they do, but I’ll be worried about losing the absolutely effortless kitbashing compatibility the DE range currently has. The plastics we have now don’t even really need an update and hold up extremely well. The faces are just a little goofy. GK is completely up in the air but I think they’ll try to make them.more ornate than the current stuff with little aesthetic change.
>>98566219>the drouncil has gathered
I despise how my whole army is on the chopping block next because GW despises cross compatibility.Also a really nicely painted Khorne Rotigus I found on the interwebs. Maybe when I paint mine it will be halfway as good.
>>98566224Leviathans are legitimate monsters as just better primaris dreadnoughts but slightly cheaper with more weapon options. Heads up tho, the leviathan kit comes as either all melee or all shooting and the shooting one/upgrade set only comes with one of each gun
I'm huffing copium but I think the predators, vindicator and whirlwind will come back mid-edition or next edition once they update the base rhino chassis.
Why play modern 40k, where your armies are shelves when you can play older editions where primaris don't exist?
This picture makes you upset.
>>98566236Nah Chaos only my brother. Or completely removed and Horus Heresy exclusive.
>>98566236They already did that. For 30k.
>>98566236They'll come back alrightIn the SoB roster
>>98566225very colourful
So why does GW hate the daemon cross compatibility? Are there really that many people playing both 40K and AoS? I feel like its better for them no? Don't need to sink tens of thousands of dollars into a mould and RnD while you can sell the same kit for AoS and 40K
>>98566249I mean Sisters already have a Predator, Razorback and Whirlwind in the form of Castigator, Immolator and Exorcist. Only new one would be a sisters Vindicator.Which honestly I'm all in for. We lack anti tank and a sisters Vindicator would solve that.
>>98566236Big issue for them is they don’t really have a place in the line with the hover shit being around.On the other hand GW unironically thinks marines having a dozen redundant options all competing for each battlefield role is a good idea so the rhino coming back and actually getting more variants isn’t even that unlikely of a possibility.
>>98566235i was going to get the shooter one, are you saying i have to buy an upgrade kit and attach more guns?
>>98566185>TQWith the announcement and slow squatting over the years the total is2 dreads40 tacticals20 devastators10 assault marinesA Razorback, a Whirlwind, a Predator Annihilator, a Stormtalon, and two TyphoonsChapter Master Pedro KantorCounts-as Chaos it is.
>>98566242Nah they remind me of these really old pics of conversions that have been sitting in my folder for nearly 20 years
>>98566259Honestly the only reason I play AOS at all is because of Daemon Cross compatibility. I wasn't sure if I would like the game but I thought "well if I don't like AOS I can just use these for 40K only"Without cross compatibility I wouldn't have given AOS a chance at all. Them being cross compatible created sales for AOS exclusive units they would have never gotten otherwise.
>>98566210I'm trying to finish off my infantry before I consider buying an ebay listing of assault intercessors, sternguard and bladeguardSome anons said I need to thin my paints so I'm being careful but I'm not sure what bits I went too thick on already
>>98566259Incomprehensible corpo-autism
>>98566263If you want to double up on your weapon of chose yes. It’s one storm cannon, one melta lance, and one gravis per box. If you want double of either you have to source the second gun. I prefer mine with melta and a siege claw so I got a melee one and bought the range upgrade set so if I ever wanted a second levithan I could just get whichever box applied to how I wanted it build.
>>98566260The amount of work to convert the current SoB vehicles to also be a "Sororitas Vindicator" kit would genuinely just be an extra sprue like the Castigator/Immolator/Exorcist already are to the Rhino.It'd be the lowest effort "free win" that GW could pull off probably ever other than not even doing this Primaris/Firstborn thing in the first place by just saying "they're the same, but newer ones are just bigger." That Pandora's Box has already been opened though.If they aren't doing this, they're utterly incompetent as a design studio, or are horrendously even greedier than previously believed.
Is there any reason to not use a coloured primer if it's the right colour for your armour?
>>98566230New Archon works pretty well for kitbash still. Or at least the arms and heads. It is noticeably like 5% larger scaled than the old infantry arms were though. Malys is a clusterfuck of part cuts but so are all the epic hero models. Mandrakes are bizarre with their heads but their arms still work for some interesting bashes at least and they never really were good for kitbashing before anyway.
>>98566271I'm not buying anything new until the codex is out
>>98566268That's exactly the scenario I was thinking about in my head.>>98566273Yeah. Happens to every publicly traded company.
Post the dreads
>>98566283no, I only use primers so my paint sticks easier
>>98566229Was tempted to post this when I saw it, Patso Catso's stuff is gold.I want to do an ork force but I never knew what to do, but 18th century orks might be it.
>>98566283Because you want to paint a basecoat of another paint anyways so you can touch it up
>>98566288Surely they won't bench more units, it makes sense to at least keep basic melee/jumppack/shooty squads and veteran ones
>>98566291>greytide army
>>98566283Lots, depends though on what method you are using and your goals. Othertimes it just makes thing easier to prime a certain color. Priming pink or brown can make a top coat of yellow pop in a way that it otherwise wouldn't for example. If you have a majority white model its pretty good to prime white, but otherwise people generally prime white parts with a gray.
>>98566259>Sell the army once>:D>Player just uses that same army in another system instead of buying a whole new one>You absolute subhuman piece of shit. I hope you get raped to death and everything you love burns, you motherfucker. AHHHHHHHHHHHH>SQUAT THE RANGE>SQUAT THE RANGE>SQUAT THE FUCKING RANGEIt gets even dumber when you realize this is an easy gateway drug for Games Workshop.>Play Daemons of Khorne in 40k>Maybe I’ll check out Age of Sigmar>Man, there’s some really cool stuff here, and some units I don’t have access to in 40k with these mortal guys. I already have an army for this, and these dudes look cool, so I’ll just buy into this chunk of the armyBut, what GW would prefer is that you start a completely unrelated faction with zero crossover.Functionally they would rather make zero profit or hit the jackpot on a new player then get a steady income from a returning one
>>98566208Yep. They'll probably still get the razorback too but James will still advertise both in Ultramarine colors
CHAOS WILL FINALLY GET RAZORBACKS
>>98566281Immolator/Exorcist/Castigator don't use the regular Rhino sprue. They use a different sprue that is much and I mean much easier to build compared to the regular Rhino one. And they actually try to emulate the look of the 30K Deimos Rhino rather than the Mars Pattern one. Only sisters vehicle that uses that sprue is the actual Rhino.However all they would need to do is add a extra sprue for the sister Rhino based vehicle sprue to build a sister Vindicator. Or if they are even lazier just add a sister bits sprue for the regular Vindicator. But yeah I'd love a Sister Vindicator since I think it looks badass and would want a Sisters version of it. And it fits our theme of having bunch of close range anti tank.
>>98566305Oi, Perturabo. Where's my damn hover tank?
>>98566283It'll lack any contrast, not much different from dipping your mini into a can of paint (which is also an army painter method).That's fine for some armies, using Leadbelcher primer for Necrons and Auric Gold primer for Custodians is pretty normal. But I don't know if most Ultramarines or Blood Angels players use Macragge Blue/Mephiston Red primers as a base.
>>98566309>They use a different sprue that is much and I mean much easier to build compared to the regular Rhino oneThe regular rhino is extremely easy to build and goes together better than many newer tanks
>>98566286That’s good. I’m just a bit fearful they’d make the new stuff mono build and have shit like 1/3rd of a torso and arm attaching to the left side of the codpiece and thigh.
>>98566305There used to be a time where CSM could take anything imperial, it was just 2x the points
Remember relic terminators?
>>98566297Not benched but potential for loadout changes and different abilities/leader combos. Infiltrators just lost "close combat weapons" for fists, so the time I spent putting knives was all for naught! Also no comms guy any more, which is weird because those parts are in the box but the helix adept that survived isn't.
With the new nobz releasing later, does that mean orks are getting a second wave? What else could we see?
>>98566325Yes I remember marines having rules for like four different types of terminator armor
>>98566258Photo attempt 3. Usually, putting my models directly under a light only ensures to show me all of my mistakes, but I feel like this one turned out alright (bonus thumb tease)
>>98566331A new kit for Gretch undoubtedly, probably still with a Runtherd since he's still in the Codex
>>98566334>only fourWe need to pump those numbers up.
>>98566329Good point I'll wait for the codex then and buy something else
>>98566331Loota/burnas probably since they got removed. Maybe back as a kill team Maybe updated grots since they are still the old kit, but also who cares? Stormboyz probably since they are old style Orks.Maybe some of the older vehicles, but they have aged gracefully.Maybe a named character or two since we are still missing a lot of the 10th edition culling.
>>98566236Nah, they've updated it twice already (HH and SoB). They don't fit with the primaris design direction. They're probably going to be removed from the CSM range soon, every time they're put in a combo box with newer sculpts they clash badly.
>>98566277i see, so if i dont care about getting x2 of a weapon option, i should be fine tho right with just the stuff out the kit? like i wont have empty gaps in the middle or something?
>>98566309>don't use the regular Rhino sprueCorrect, they use the Sororitas Rhino sprue. I should have better clarified which Rhino kit I meant.>source: I built a Castigator like a month ago and still have the SoB Rhino-specific bits like the doors and the roof fleur-de-lis panel left over on the sprue
A Dominion box still hangs large in my local hobby store.Should I contact the government and make sure the building gets listed status for having such a relic?
>>98566301I think it has less to do with "oh no we want to prevent people from double dipping" and more with the completely autistic bean-counting that makes models being shared between systems verboten (except for custodes for some reasons).Tow just got an enormously expensive dragon for their chaos warriors, and apparently so is AoS in a couple of months. How stupid is that? I understand that gw wants to prevent crossover to *some* extent so they can better see exactly how much each system is making on their own, but at a certain point they're just shooting themselves in the foot.
>dark eldar slaves>radical inquisitor approved xenos>tau auxiliaries>chaos renegade xenos mercenariesWould be so easy to flesh this out just a little more for minor races like saharduin, nicassar, grug, chaos eldar
>>98566353Yeah but it's still kind of wrong because the Sororitas Rhino uses the regular Rhino kit and gives an extra sprue.Though it definitely makes me feel robbed when castis and such only include two sprues while the regular sororitas Rhino includes three sprues. Yet the castis and such cost 1.6 times more than the regular Rhino.
>>98566243I just don't see a reason to keep the rhino but not the other rhino based vehicles unless unless they wanna drip feed them as they are just an extra sprue on top of the rhino.
>>98566351Yeah you have all the parts to fully arm and build him you just wont be able to double up any single weapon. Per the range weapons set box >The kit includes the components to build three heavy weapons for a Leviathan Dreadnought – a cyclonic melta lance, grav-flux bombard, and storm cannon – each of which can be mounted on either of your Leviathan's arms.So he will have everything you need just no double weapons and no melee in the box (outside of his kicking attack)
>>98566360In pretty much every other business model, having a way of introducing a customer to a new service or product is going to lead to more people buying things from that service and/or product line.Obviously, John Warhammer knows what they are doing and I cannot criticise their income as a result. In saying that, a good way to 'groom' 40k players into AoS/Heresy was to have armies that went into multiple settings.
>>98566261>Big issue for them is they don’t really have a place in the line with the hover shit being around.30k has predators and vindicators as cheap, less armoured gun boxes and sicarans as the bigger, big gun equivalent to gladiators. Both can fit just fine.
>>98566367I honestly don't expect Rhino based vehicles to last for Chaos. Once they get their Codex they will be out and only the regular Rhino will remain and that might be squatted too.
>>98566313Easier to build the old rhino if you don't care about gaps between the sides and the giant top plate piece. I haven't had to use gap filler on any of the new HH or SoB rhino based vehicles.
>>98566362>tau auxiliariesIf you mean human auxiliaries under the Tau, This can be achieved with the Cadian upgrade sprue. They could do this with the parts they're already selling, they'd just have to market them differently.>>98566366>you can build a Sororitas Rhino out of the Castigator kit with less leftover parts in a smaller kit>but the Sororitas Rhino kit is just an upgrade sprue on top of the SM Rhino in a larger overall package>but the Castigator kit costs moreMake it make sense
>>98566229I somehow think praetorians, even as orks, would be too problematic to come back
>>98566267Cleary shows how even the fags from those times had the restrain of not making everything a space marine.
>>98566301>>98566259GW believes someone disinterested in AoS will start an army in AoS if they squat the daemons in 40k or something retarded.
>>98566377>Easier to build the old rhino if you don't care about gaps between the sides and the giant top plate piecWhat gaps? The chaos rhino is the same as the regular rhino except for the extra sprue right? I built 2 chaos rhinos and they had no gaps at all.
>>98566374Just why? They've been part of the army since the beginning.
>>98566267I can see some 40k stuff like the troopers riding cold ones, the sentinels as those at walkers. Vader's bodyguards look like they're from the Crusader model but I wonder where most of those heads are from. Though looking closer the stormtroopers don't look like kitbashes so much as guardsmen painted as stormtroopers.
>>9856637240K has the issue of it doesn’t play at the scale of heresy and you aren regularly needing to dip into really beefy profiles to deal with regular threats.In 30k something like the typhon is a bit of an over investment in its speciality that will occasionally struggle to find targets worth its shooting. In 40K the same unit is outright a waste unless you run it to hunt terminator equivalents or as a bad over costed tank hunter.
>>98566389Force you to buy new models. For SM you need to buy the fucking grav vehicles. And for Chaos they will make bunch of new Daemon engines.
>>98566379Auxiliaries includes all the Xenos, not just Gayvesa or Demiurge (votannn)
>>98566374Chaos can get HH rhino variants with a chaos sprue. It's not the same as loyalists
>>98566357selling fast
>>98566360>(except for custodes for some reasons)Tzaangors as well for some reason. Thousands Sons basically have two combat patrols right now because the AOS Disciples of Tzeench Spearhead is 100% 40K compatible.
>>98566343I can tolerate the dreadnought but I hate these. I'd rather GW give plastic version of each legion's special terminator unit.
>>98566395The typhon is a superheavy. Sicarans aren't. This is the exact same deal as leman russes and rogal dorns. There's plenty of room for both.
>>98566387These areas are historically prone to having gaps because the large flat pieces have/had a tendency to warp out of the machine
>>98566185>How many Dreads has GW forced you to shelf1. I will not sell it or throw it out. I have had since I was a child. Bad paint, broken parts, it's all part of the memories of losing every game but having fun years ago. That said I need to figure out what to do with my bunker that I didn't get to use. Also makes me wonder what they're going to do with Space Wolves and Blood Angels exclusive dreadnoughts. With a new captain on bike and focus on speed this edition, I figure the chaplain and librarian dreadnoughts are just going to go away when they get a codex sadly - I still want a chaplain one for my dark angels even if not legal. Bjorn I assume will get a redemptor version. It's funny how so much of this squatting and crap could have been avoided if they just said "Here's the new kit" like they're doing for our landspeeder and terminators, instead of rebranding and doubling the number of kits because they wanted to focus on tacticool redesigns and trademark names. Whats the next primaris unit to get squatted? I think all the phobos units will just be consolidated into one in 12th.
>>98566398I believe all the recent model updates for anything that isn't primaris have proved already that regular model updates sell just fine and you don't need to take away core units that have defined an army for decades to get people to buy new models.
>>98566401Yeah but GW hates cross compatibility as we can see with Chaos. Though I guess if they sell them as Chaos Deimos Predators and such and as such avoid corpo autism which system got the actual sales of the units.
>>98566374Chaos doesn’t really have the motorpool and anti armor to lose all the rhino variants and not really suffer for it.Without the rhino variants their ranged AT becomes just the defiler which a huge points sink, the forge fiend which is a casino cannon, turning the land raider into a tank hunter, or havocs which nobody really uses even if I like them.
>>98566259They want to know which product line sells. If daemon models are supported in four different games it makes it very difficult for the bean counters to know to what extent each game is driving interest in those models.
>>98566417*Chaos Daemons
>>98566368ah ok, never built a HH kit so wasnt sure, thank you so much for the advice anon!
>>98566401How do Deimos pattern vehicles compare with regular Rhino Chassis vehicles both in terms of size and weapon loadouts? Can you make actual predators with it?
Ork Warboss: what loadout is optimal? I guess klaw is a given but which shoota should I take?
>>98566418I mean they will keep the Vindicator and Predator (expect EC because fuck them I guess) until they get their Codexes. Then they will get probably like 2 new Daemon engines to replace them.
star wars stuff is also being overpriced>tfw plastic which is worth its weight in gold
>>98566424>SizeIdentical>WeaponsYou can make the same loadouts and you get some Horus Heresy Exclusive guns.
>>98566362Anon, GW will never touch any of those things because Marine popularity means they don't have to. At best, those would all just be things that become target practice for Marines.
>>98566389The old vehicles clash with the current design aesthetics of everything on CSM and Cult legion models being overdesigned.There may be a new "rhino", but if the new defiler is anything to go by, its going to be one gaudy monstrosity.
>>98566398Paypigs are so retarded.You could simply not buy them. If you are a meta chasing faggot worst case you proxy them.
>>98566435Interesting, then why won't GW repackage the old Rhinos with the Deimos one plus upgrade sprues for all?
>>98566424Size wise the Deimos was built on the Mars pattern hull. As for the weapons, what do you mean? Like can you put Mars pattern weapons on the Deimos hull?
>>98566185>How many Dreads has GW forced you to shelfI'm a custodes player. I'm glad to get rid of my resin shit.
>>98566423The levithan does have the catch of he is kind of just split into separate parts for the sake of saying he has a high parts count. For example the head is two parts right down the eyes leaving an ugly seam because ??? And most of the guns have bad ones you can even see in the promos Here is his instructions so you can see what’s going on with his build https://imgur.com/gallery/plastic-legion-leviathan-siege-dreadnought-melee-variant-wvQ4cWv
>>98566424They're the same size.There's 2 variants, the normal one has the same and more than the 40k Predator.The "Support" version comes with exotic HH main guns.But I think there's Legends rules for most of those.
>>98566447I honestly don't know. But I can see that happening. With Chaos it actually makes more lore sense for most factions since all the regular Chaos Predators and such are just looted loyalist stuff.With Sisters as well if you look the Exorcists and Castigators are also based on the Deimos Rhino and not Mars Pattern. So honestly they could just release a Sister and Chaos Deimos Rhino. And Chaos Deimos Vindicator and Predator. Those molds are also pretty new since they were released in 2022.
>>98566441That just needs a load of trim to fit fine. CSM don't need completely different vehicles. That's silly.
>>98566424The deimos pattern predator has all the weapons for 40K loadouts inaddition to extra ones for HH specific loadouts. There are two kits though, the "predator support tank" kit irrc only has goofy HH specific weapons.
>>98566440The whole point of the setting is marines fighting aliens, gayoss has ruined this
>>98566466Killing all Marine players is the moderate solution to the Slop Question.
>>98566462>>98566441CSM don'tThe problem is specifically a Cult Legion one. The aesthetic works perfectly with >Death GuardThe Death Rhino should look like a rolling ball of vomit.
>>98566453im not too bothered about seams, i find from a distance they arent as much of an issue.> link banned in My country ( UK)kek
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98566387ahhhh so you havent built a rhino chassis vehicles in the last decade.The base sprue mold is ancient and it produces warped plastic, that requires series work to fix. Or you end up with huge fucking aps. Its the same with the wave serpent/falcon, and the landraider. This isnt a O no you got a bad one. its all of them, every one.
>>98566486DG's exclusive vehicle, the crawler, which fits their aesthetics perfectly (duh) is just a corrupted version of the 30k aquitor. I don't see why they can't do the exact same corruption to the rhino. No need for a different vehicle.
>>98566398GW said no. And there are no rumors. And it wouldnt make sense even in existing lore, or how they squatted them for SM. They game loyalists 9 years to switch to grav. That would be giving CSM 0 years.
>>98566462They basically need to turn it into a demon engine if they want to have it match any CSM "vehicle" they've made in the last ~10 years. The design studio has seemingly moved away from CSM having anything vaguely industrial looking in their lineup to baroque flesh monstrosities with teeth sticking out randomly.
>>98566514>And it wouldnt make sense even in existing loreThat didn't stop primaris.
>>98566494> link banned in My country ( UK)Not even my third world country does this.
>>98566518Literally just needs more trim. They haven't made any new vehicles just daemon engines and rhinos are not daemon engines nor should look like them.
>>98566512STINKY>no need for a different vehicleIt would be called the Rot Spreading Pollinator and it would have a bulldozer.
>Iron warriors aren't allowed to use siege engines because black legion says everything has to be defilers nowHow about no.
>>98566519primaris makes sense. Cawl being the one to literally invent everything and being randomly immortal doesnt make sense. Primaris are absolute shit, but making a new version of a thing that was already a new version of thing isnt breaking the lore. Its just shit lore.
>squat rhino and it’s variants >people immediately start talking about buying the heresy rhinos and rhino derivatives >if people are running those they will probably start also trying our the weird versions that have been in legends for a while already >GW sees rhino sales spike for the heresy >holy shit guys we can save the heresy! >Heresy 4 is weirdly focused on rhino spam now and half the army rules are free rhinos >Heresy 4 dies even faster then heresy 3>GW squats a model they released in the same edition out of spite
The land raider sitting there watching all its friends die. It's sad.
>>98566512The arquitor is way bigger in person, though. The DG crawler is more like a Vindicator with sponsons and the Demolisher cannon in its arse.
>>98566185>TQMy dreadnought command squad has been on the shelf fir a long time
>>98566534I mean most of the squattings. Nothing about primaris makes squatting half their vehicle pool or dreadnoughts. Or speeders, but those have come back.
RIP in peace lil dudeDidn't even get to finish ur paint job before u were squatted
>>98566511>The base sprue mold is ancient and it produces warped plasticIt produced warp sprues from the day it was first used in 2002 desu.
>>98566535The current HH rules already favour Rhino spam.
>>98566544Can just proxy it as a redemptor right?
>>98566550isnt he like half the size of a redemptor
>>98566550Can I? He's pretty short & only a 60mm base
>>98566544That right there is a perfectly legal and viable HH Castraferrum dread, just saying.
>>98566511So the chaos rhino is a different sprue from the regular rhino? It looks identical
>>98566555>>98566556If someone said no they are probably someone you shouldn't be playing with
>>98566550Hey I would allow epic scale marines to proxy regular Pr*maris shit.If GW does not respect their setting neither will I
>>98566512Apparently a lore blurb exist insisting these are actually two completely unrelated vehicles and Morty was just inspired by remembering them, but they totally aren’t the same thing
All this shit makes me glad I stopped collecting after Chapterhouse made GW stop printing rules for anything that wasn't on the model.
>>98566210>I don't know how to do goreTissue paper scraps mixed with PVA glue, just kind of apply blobs of that to the severed neck and string them out in a way that looks good, then of course just grime it up with reds and browns when it comes time to paint.
>>98566542Found them in the archive
>>98566523>They haven't made any new vehicles just daemon enginesThat's what he's saying man. CSM doesn't get vehicles anymore, only half-alive, half-demonic monstrosities. The Rhino sticks out like a sore thumb and will probably get replaced by some fresh horror of a sculpt.
>>98566577these are really cool
>>98566565the most annoying part of primaris is how until last year with the space wolves release, all primaris had the quila on their chests. It's the symbol of the 'perium but it makes them look like some kind of superhero team instead of space warrior guys.
>>98566579>by some fresh horror of a sculptcentaur-walker daemonculaba birthing troops onto the battlefield, perturabo refined honsou's design
What is really happening in the realm of warhammer rules right now? I only play kill team but I hear there has been quite the commotion about Space Marines becoming T5? I don't really know what that means but people make it out to be a big deal. Is that the case? What are the implications? Because I only play kill team, I don't think I am ever effected by codex releases and what not.
Does anyone have a pic of Nazdreg next to a Mega Armour Warboss?
>>98566512>plague marines are corrupted 30k marines>they are much larger>crawler and drone are corrupted 30k aquitor and vultrax>they are much smaller
>>98566577Why do some dreadnoughts get a head and others get the sarcophagus? Any lore reason for that?
>>98566588The Daemonculabubu
>>98566598it means a lot of weapons will hit on 5 instead of 4, points might be raised a lot to make up for it but who knows
>>98566598>GK and a marine with a grav gun>both were removed when the current KT edition was released in 2024I love KT, but you must be pretending to be retarded
>>98566607Like in real life you get head if you're a chad
With the culling of firstborn and the tripling down on tournament autism, I think it's fair to declare 11e nu-nu-hammer
>>98566283who's colored primer ? Citadel for example doesn't even sell primer and its not clear that their spray can formulation has any extra primer chemicals added. On the other hand regular paint brands their primer formulas are a lot different than regular acrylic and probably not what you want as a final layer.
>>98566617I think we should call it dark wokehammer
>>98566563ya not liking cheating is something to avoid lol.A boxnaught is closer in size to a terminator than to a Redemptor dread. Its the same as saying let my proxy my rhino as a landraider. Then watch me hide it places a landraider could never hide.
Has anyone tried bully boyz this edition?As someone who loves 1+ armour saves and impact hits I'm really tempted to spam Mega Nobz, can someone tell me if it's viable before I remortgage my house to buy the kits needed.
>>98566583A problem solved in 15 seconds with a hobby knife
>>98566610So does that create a lot of different break points or something? Like does it suddenly mean one faction goes from shitting on one faction to not being able to shit on them at all? Also, when it comes to codex releases, not all codexes are released at the same time right? So if your faction is like the last team to get a codex, do you just get fucked rules wise for however long?
>>98566627exactly
>>98566626The problem is not fixed.
>>98566621Late stage Wokehammer.
>>98566617I watched a vid calling it 7th edition but with less options (no Forge World)
>>98566634Wokehammer 2.0
>>98566632>Wahhh there are too many aquilas>It's easy to remove them>Waahhh that doesn't fix it
>>98566634>>98566638
>>98566583To this day the only primaris marine with chest cables is the techmarine.
>>98566627I think every eldar aspect warrior but banshees, now wound 1 worse. and now all get wounded on 2s. So ya its big for a lot factions.
>>98566622Tanks shouldn't be hiding in the first place the game should have infantry screening ahead of tanks as they come into contact with the enemy, the l-shaped ruins mindset is why this game sucks now.
>>98566636>>98566617It's about as bad as 7th edition with very little of the original soul left. Overall dire state. But 12th edition will be a big reboot rules wise so we have to hold on hope
>>98566639It's missing all the other details and bits that 'made' the old marines, you're refusing to get that primaris aren't fixed merely by making one tweak.
>>98566610I mean they outright said in both the article and video that points are going up and smaller armies will be the norm for marine factions, but yeah "who knows"
>>98566650what a stupid fucking take. I guess tanks hiding isnt a thing in the real world, and every other wargame to ever exist forver.You sir a dumb bitch.
>>98566655>Bringing up different points because your original is a non-issueYou lost
>>985666367th at least had the decency of having morale, old AP, AVs, templates and actual points.
>>98566627Orks are already updated, all marine types are being changed in October, and two more codexes before the end of the year (Tau and Custodes). The vast majority of 40k players won't be waiting very long.
>>98566653>But 12th edition will be a big reboot rules wiseI know there's a semi-cycle with editions and rules but my hopium reserves are at an all-time low.
>>9856666711e hasn't given people free units yet, so at least there's that
>>98566650Russian tactics.
>>98566674You could just choose not to use formations. I can't choose anything that will make 11th be a real wargame.
they should errata visibility to be 2d base perspective, watching armies walk backwards just so their silhouette is not giving visibility is so fucking trash
Man how do you wiggle out a land raider with current terrain rules? Choices seem to be basically put it out in the open for everyone to shoot at it turn 1. Or put it behind cover but now it won't be able to shoot anything until turn 3 due to how much shit blocks it.
>>98566185>TQMy LGs is pretty chill, they even let me run my crabnaught as a Redemptor. Most of my dreads have still been serving as shelf warmers anyway, I’m all about my infantry anyway.
>>98566688Just take one of the hover tanks and ignore the terrain. If you're thinking while playing marines you're doing it wrong.
>>98566673Realistically it will probably get worse, but the steady enshittification has allowed me to slowely detach from 40k at least.
>>985666537th at least allow me to make absolute meme list like my old Inquisition army.Bunch of Chimeras with psybolt each one with a 3 model squad, with one of them being a psyker. While Landraider crusaders with psybolt deliver inquisition bullshit flanked by Dominion sisters in Repressors.
>>98566700the terrain rules are exactly the same for the new tanks as for a land raider, what are you talking about?
>>98566674>>98566678This. 7th with all its fault still allowed the player to remove it self from the stupidity.
>>98566688It can move through everything but dense terrain pieces, what are you having trouble with? Are you playing as if it has to go around terrain areas?
>>98566698>details on the base painted pinkwhat the actual fuck is it with your color choices, it looks awful
>>98566261Marines don't have artillery or a proper seige tank now. There's definitely room for some of the rhino stuff.
>>98566661Other wargames literally do not have L-shaped ruins, tourneymongoloid.
>>98566712Don't you need to take out 2 inches of movement with light terrain. So you have 8 inches of movement basically and you cannot have it on top of the light terrain piece so if there's not enough movement I cannot go over it and have to wait until next turn.
>>98566662There's no argument retard, I'm telling you your obsession with spamming "JUST HOBBY IT BRO, YOU'RE NOT ALLERGIC TO HOBBYING RIGHT BRO CMON I'M BOOBYING" doesn't fix my dozens of underlying issues with the generic primaris superhero design
>>98566703I've been wanting to get into playing, but this edition doesn't inspire much want.
ok im a mouthbreathing idiot. like im giga retarded but i can paint pretty good. Which army has (so far) the most braindead rules so i can finally find another reason to buy my plastic crack ?
>>98566724>Don't you need to take out 2 inches of movement with light terrainNo>you cannot have it on top of the light terrain piece so if there's not enough movement I cannot go over it and have to wait until next turnOnly the case for the actual terrain, not the whole footprint, usually fences and stuff making up the light terrain are way thinner than the footprint
>>98566727
>>985666532020.... 2023.... 2026 all sucked. But 2029 will be our year bros! And if not that, 2032!
>>98566717It was an EC daemon prince shoulder pad from my buddy’s army which are all hot pink noise marines, and the zoanthropes head scheme was stolen from a different friend, what would you have preferred/ reccomended instead? Don’t you have friends you play against that you take trophies from? Or other armies you play that fight your dudes in your fluff?
>>98566727Congratulations on your transition xister!>>98566730Only somebody who doesn't own models would get so mad at such a simple fix lmao
>>98566261>competing for the same battlefield roleThere's literally nothing wrong with thisIt's not like a job interview where you, the nerd, lose the IT job to the girl who knows how to turn it off and on again. In the tabletop I can use my treaded niggas and you, you can use your wahtever.
>>98566739Stop being so reasonable and polite. Get mad, call someone a nigger already.
>>98566610also means that stuff like overcharged plasma, krak missiles, autocannons, melta, used to wound on 2+ now wound on 3+.Heavy bolters which wounded on 3+ now wound on 4+.
honestly I think i'm just done with 40k from now on
>>98566724There is nothing like that in the rules. Everything can move through light areas with no restrictions. Pivot is gone, that used to be -2", is that what you're thinking of?
>>98566752Why what’s wrong bro bro?
Why can't you take your Daemon Princes under Chaos Undivided if I don't care about individual gods.
Haven't seen anyone talk about these yet but I noticed emAnyone thinking this means we get older mark power armor bits in sprues or something as customization?
>>98566765They've done the bare minimum to justify the third new intercessor kit of the edition. One studded shoulder and a back banner.
>>98566765Just use the corsair kit.
>>98566771You literally never post unless you're crying at somebody insulting you you ban evading faggot Lmao
>>98566771yes you do, like, every time
>>98566774You could at least try with your bait next time retard-kun
What number are we at now?
>>98566775Is it much trouble to scrape any chaos stuff off those? I’m tempted to grab a box if it’s manageable.
Anyone know of someone who makes good space marine bits.
>>98566775Honestly I might, been playing in TTS since 2019 and finally got the chance to properly get into the game properly with a patrolI really like the lore about mkx being backwards compatible with older parts and want to kitbash some up
>>98566775I find it so funny that chaos marines are the ones with actual marine models
>instantly cockslapped by the janniesFucking hell that was fast.>>98566775Pisses me off that these are fantastic renegade models, but relegated to being a box of five dudes at fifty bucks.
>>98566775Unfortunately it's extremely cost ineffective with only 5 per box>>98566787Just their hand icons and the trophies on their belts, latter is easy if you have one of those low rpm hand tools
>>98566785Keep huffing the hopium that old armour marks are coming back, friend.
>>98566706Then why the fuck do they fly now? What was the point?
>>98566800I know you're very desperate for attention but you'd have to be genuinely subhuman IQ if you think options present on the ETB kit won't be on the multipart just because the one promo image doesn't show them
Alright how the fuck do you kill a Mortarion? That guy seems so shrug off 1000 points of shooting and only take like 6 wounds at best.
>>98566807They aren't present on the intro box push-fit kit, but you've decided the armageddon push-fit kit is the true direction of the future and a studded pad for the sergeant is the sign of options throughout the kit? The obviously hid all that from the promo shots because...?
>>98566653>But 12th edition will be a big reboot rules wise so we have to hold on hopePeople thought that about 11th edition too. It's not going to get better.The game as a whole has sucked dicks since 6th edition.7th almost killed GW and 40k with it.8th was a improvement but changed lot of shit people didn't like.9th was more or less 8th but still worse than what came before even if it was slightly better than 8th.10th then came around to completely fuck up everything entirely in worst ways imaginable.11th is just same shit as 10th with GW doubling down on it.12th edition won't be better at all, just drop that delusion now.The game has sucked for almost half the editions and GW has actively shown that it isn't going to make the game better at all.What the fuck makes you think they'll just turn it around? Answer is they won't.
>>98566752I'm questioning why I'm interested in playing 40k. I think it might just be for novelty's sake.
>>98566826>They aren't present in the ETBThey areThe rest of your post is schizophrenic rambling to keep shitposting You need to try harder, this is your last free (you)
>>98566837I am still attached to the setting. But man the people at my LGS are such faggots. Comp obsessed soulless NPCs
>>98566796>>98566797Yeah the pricing on them is fucking nuts
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98566727West Coaster, canadian probably
>>98566852you're literally permabanned, how is this a surprise for you lol
>>98566843I always have fun talking about painting and models with, but am I really gonna collect a second army for playing in this edition? I don't think so.
>>98566775I don't like the shoulder pads, too chaosy. Same goes for the feet and all the trim.But I like how those boltguns have similiar proportions to the bolt rifles, the extra size makes them more imposing.
>>98566858Nope, Arkansas, he doxxed himself when he got permabanned lmao
>>985668297th had the impossible problem of solving the shit that 5th and 6th introduce.All thing consider 7th core rules are Good for 40k standards.The issue with 7th are the army rules that are an absolute clusterfuck.When an army has free transport for every single unit in it, resulting in about 200 to 500 extra points in a 2k game is not the most broken shit you could make during that time shows they fucked up army rules hard.You can see it is not the base rules, because you can grab a 3rd codex and it works fine with 7th. Same can not be say with a 7th codex and bring it to 3rd.
>>98566865>Too chaosyThey're literally just mk3 pauldronsAnd the trim is mk3-5 too
>>98566785Nah, he’s right. The explanation GW gave for the old armor marks showing up on Primaris is that the Imperium is dealing with supply issues, so older gear is being rotated back into service though they’ve clearly been Primaris-ified.The updated Space Wolves kits already had some random old mark looking armor slapped onto them too. At most, this is probably just going to mean alternative heads, maybe a couple of torso front options, and a few spare shoulder pads.Realistically, it means squads will end up with body’s specifically in some armor variant. You’ll always have at least one model wearing MK VIII armour with Primaris legs, while still being free to mix and match whatever head and shoulder pads you want on him for example.Maybe they eventually try and key jangle by having a set of dudes predominantly in some older set of armor, but it’s really doubtful you are going to get a ton of options to customize beyond two options per marine and some interchangeable bits like heads and shoulders.
>>98566866Imagine being from a state that can't even pronounce its own name right lmao
>>98566866Lmao, didn't know that.What an idiot.
>>98566871>The issue with 7th are the army rules that are an absolute clusterfuck.You could say the same about all 40k editions
I just bought these lads based on vibes, are they any good in a fight?
>>98566873I don't like the weird cutouts close to the armpits, it's what chaos marines have and I don't like it. Too chaosy.
if you're an octagenarian and you bought an entire eldar aspect army for 40 bucks in 1995 you can still play the latest release just fine meanwhile if you're a marinecuck you have to buy the weekly updated fortnite marines with retarded aesthetics and gay fanfiction lore written by 50 year old male feminists
is it just me or are the new ork dice kinda bad?
>>98566884I did just say I probably won't collect a second army this edition, but if I do the eldar interest me even if their lore is beyond garbage. They seem to be pretty kitbash-friendly.
>>98566888Seen people say they would make more sense as Nurgle dice.Personally think you are a retard if you pay GW prices for slightly different colored dice with a logo in general.
>>98566865>I don't like the shoulder padsShoulder pads, well known for being a bit GW is particularly stingy with
>>98566607The "head" is just an ornamental sensor system. The body of the interred marine is in a coffin for all of them.
>>98566874It's likely they'll add some other options into the kits too.GW did that with the Sternguard veteran multipart kit, it contained bunch of detail options, like extra shin plates, etc. that GW just never showed off for some reason.Honestly GW needs to work more on their presentation of the models and potential options. Show off all the options for kits.Though I do agree they should add more variation into the primaris kits. But this is still in the right direction and I'm happy they did at least this.
Anyone working on some hobby?
>>98566884marine players had 10 years to get ready for this. if they couldn't handle it then thats on them at this point and their most common units now are official proxies for current ingame units. not sure why so many people are upset outside of learning disabilities.
>>98566209Ein being a retard aside, I always liked this Graze's design
>>98566884>oh btw just use your tacticals, (10 dudes with two special weapons and a pistol melee sargeant) as intercessors (10 dudes with two special weapons and a pistol melee sargeant)>thanks GW I was already doing that anyways, but having the confirmation means things will go smoother at tournamentsmeanwhile model-less neets at /40kg/:
>>98566894everything they do is a ripoff>just getting into painting>at my LGS>"official" GW primer spray is $20/can>go to Shart-in-Mart>primer spray is $6/can>buy a white, a black and a gray>mfw I saved $42 that I can now spend on models instead
>>98566884Counterpoint; if you're an octagenarian and you bought an entire eldar aspect army for 40 bucks in 1995 you're a colossal faggot for playing Eldar
>>98566916I'm rotating between what I'm working on, and currently it's turn for HH
>>98566880Not with 3rd though.
>>98566919>duuuude the frog had time until the water was boiled to jump out this means he should like it
>>98566916
>>98566242Not really. Several chapters have the chapter master as a librarian so it's not crazy.
>>98566775Something feels off about these models and I can't really place it. I like the different oldschool armor variants, the mk3 power packs are great, but something just feels off about these for some reason.Maybe it's the painting style? It feels weirdly flat but also too perfect?
>>98566653>>98566829>>98566752>>98566837I've been holding off on saying anything, but given the dire feelings surrounding 40k right now after the news of all these classic Space Marines units getting squatted, I think it's as good a time as any.There is something very, very big coming next year. Some of us have been working on it for over half a decade at this point. Official announcement is December 12th. Do not sell off your old minis. That's all for now.
>>98566884>if you're an octagenarianNobody here is an octopus, what you're talking about? That's prepostorous, we don't know how to use computers.
>>98566931the frog in the pot analogy doesnt work when the pots been boiling for 10 years, this was known and discussed in here for 10 years. it was discussed all over the internet that this would one day happen. You got multiple editions and the battle brothers aren't even banned, they are just proxies now for other playable models.
>>98566940put up or shut up you LARPin'-ass bitch nigga
>>98566929Nice, what are you playing in HH?I've rotated out while my mates are learning 11th, but I need to get some more work done in my iron hands and word bearers.
>>98566916I am painting at this very moment, it's an aos mini though
o ye actual people go out and play: how often do you see actual marines instead of primarinos? bought, recasts, printed, everything goes. from what I gathered the number of 40k consoomers has skyrocketed and with it the sales of primarinos that are the main attraction for 9 years now. I haven't visited any lgs in years, but last time all I saw on tables were primarinos. marines had it coming for years and I think that the majority of 40k players (read: consoomers and metaslaves) won't notice anything. so who will be affected by this grim(DARK) madness exactly? people who play with friends homebrew all the time anyway. I can already see the drama dead in 1 week outside of this general.>How many Dreads has GW forced you to shelfstill planning on buying recasts of all mk4 dreads
>>98566927It's okay to be jealous anon
>>98566570Is this where it all went wrong?
>>98566931More like>the frog had time until the water boiled and actively KNEW it was rising up to boiling, and he should've have jumped out instead of boiling in itIt's like being told that the stove is hot and not to touch it because it will burn you, but doing it fucking anyway and then blaming the stove for getting hotter or the person who warned you.
nu40k is just not warhammer 40k
Did that one anon ever post his results about priming in hot weather? I really want to clear out my practice models.
>>98566948Anon honest question.How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast?
>>98566962Basically just admitting it's all shit but you're stuck to it from sunk cost fallacy.
>>98566966Hasn’t been for a long time, anon. Yet we’re all still fucking here
>>98566910If the Ork Boyz kit is anything to go by, the optional bits will probably just be a few shoulder pads, holstered weapons, alt helmets, and maybe some purity seals. Orks didn’t get a ton of extras compared to how stacked the old Boyz kit was with random spares. Intercessors will probably get shown off sometime this week, so we’ll see, but there’s no way we’re getting parts to make a bunch of completely different marks of armour between boxes.GW is also impressively bad at showing off kits. When the new trolls were coming to AoS, people thought they looked shit and overly cartoonish because the ones they showed did. Turns out the options that were basically just the old fantasy trolls never got shown off because reasons. Meanwhile the fucking Hellbrute has every weapon option and multiple Legion schemes on full display.
>video has a guy completely alone in a room>still wears a maskI don't get ithttps://youtu.be/zlxAKRPRlj0
>>98566966it just simply isn'tso to all the 11th fans all i'll say is "enjoy your corpse"i'll be playing 3rd and 4th
>>98566977I'm here enjoying the meltdown.I did try to do more discussions of proper 40k like 3rd/4th, but most of the general was too busy addicted to consume
>>98566958
>>98566984Larp larp larp
>>98566966The worst part is that the majority of 40k players now are here from 8th onwards. So all they know is this shit and they think this is what 40k is supposed to be. Plato's allegory of the cave and all taht.
>>98566985kill yourself, ban evader
>>98566812I'm gonna assume you don't and you tie him up with something he can't kill quickly and go win on points
>>98566980>i'll be playing 3rd and 4thno you fucking won't a game of 3rd or 4th gets poster once every three months at most.
>>98566979He’s said before it’s to “protect his identity” because he works in a specific field and doesn’t want his power level known but I don’t see how that’ll help if anyone in the same field comes across a video of his.
>>98566989This is you
>>98566996My army is pretty elite so I cannot have sacrificial units to tie him up.
>>98566973I'm not going to feel sympathy for people who were explicitly told HERE, MULTIPLE TIMES, that Games Workshop WILL get rid of firstborn eventually.
>>98566957Firstborn Marines are pretty much nonexistent on the table in my area not because of any “ew, firstborn are outdated” attitude, but because Primaris are basically all you can find in stores, and the rules are actively hostile to using the older models. The restrictions on what can do what and what can ride in which transports are a mess (Gravis armor suffers from the same problem and barely shows up for the same reason).Our Blood Angels player used to run Devastators to deal with armor until he switched to Kratos tanks. Our Grey Knights player, by default, still runs the old marines by default obviously
>>98567003But you can see his eyes, which is what you should actually hideThen again if he really needs to protect his identity why even show up in the video at all, just be a voice
>>98566999Yeah because we are busy playing anon
>>98566980>i'll be playing 3rd and 4thThat's what people on /fourk/ and 40k battle bible threads said.Nothing came of it.
So how long until the secondaries clear off and discussion becomes normal again?
it really wouldn't sting that much if it was just a new armor and better scale models. cawl's asspull to make bigger marines in-lore is just so mind bogglingly retarded and gay.
>>98566999Why would anyone post their games of older editions here?Most of the people here have never seen SOVL and started playing around 8th and oldest around 6th.
>>98567026I would love to see them personally and I started in 10th
>>98567016Yeah, idk. I think he said he works face to face with clients, so it’s probably some plausible deniability thing like “oh yeah he looks and sounds like me, but that’s not me.”
The problem is that we bought into 40k with the promise it was a grimdark game and setting, but over time that has been completely sanitized to become one of the most corporate and safe products in the spaceWhen you have childrens books in your setting, you cease to be grimdarkGW will never change the setting, nothing will happen because of profits
>>98567009Which is what you will also say when they add female marines.
>>98567022fourk was trying to remake it and battle bible is currently completely written, but everyone got bored because the idea was extremely dumb since it was just compilation of old rules that we already hadIn any case not about playing the game.
I'm really struggling to understand how Hasbro marine getting replaced by bigger Hasbro marine (been happening for 8 years btw) how somehow now made the game WOKE.
>>98567039Nice strawman, retard
Decalfag can you share with us the exact nature of your developmental disorder? It might make people more sympathetic to you. You mentioned having one before.
>>98567044You probably struggle with a lot of things on account of being a retarded faggot
>>98567057He’s banned so he’s not here at the moment
>>98567044I mean the jump from old marines to the newer ones is kind of absurd >>98566565
>>98567064Damn. I was hoping for some insight.
>>98567060>EVERYTHING I DON'T LIKE IS WOKEYep, I'm the retard.
first tournament this sunday, assembling aquilons for deep strike. two questions, can pic rel move with the unit, or is it one and done after I deep strike? also, what does /40kg/ recommend i equip it with, the flamer or the volleygun?
Primaris just suck ass, simple as
>>98567065I personally would not have started playing if they still looked like first born, yuck!
>>98567053You're just going to try to gaslight people to defend it and cope when it happens anyway.
>>98567076I personally quit playing when they stopped looking like first born, yuck!
>>98567086Yet here you are, curious.
>>98567091>40k general>not slop edition 40k general
>>98567079No. I will just call them retards for not leaving when they could and not feel sympathy for them.
>>98567093I bet you have soo many games played of 4th in your head.
>>98567070>EVERYTHING I DON'T LIKE IS WOKE
>>98567106Yes a gigachad would cry about mandolls online.
>>98567091>you can only discuss 40k in the 40k general by playing modern shit editionsYes anon there is nothing else to the hobby to discuss but 11th edition sweaty esports faggotry. No one discusses the modelling or painting or lore or old games ever!
>>98567099Even 9th had more interesting and funny builds than this slopNot everything is 4th, even if it should be
>>98567122Based
>>9856703640k’s biggest problem is that what still draws a lot people in even in the modern era is almost entirely pre-8th edition. The art, the lore, Dawn of War, some genuinely cool models. Odds are whatever hooked you isn’t even in the game anymore.It’s stuck in the same weird place Star Wars is right now. The thing that actually gets people interested is the original trilogy (and maybe the prequels). But if you jump in today or you’ve been hanging on you’re faced with this schizophrenic modern mess of Ahsoka, Maul running around, random original characters treated like the most important people in the galaxy, and Baby Yoda… all while the same people tell you the old stuff sucked anyway, then immediately piss themselves with excitement the second the new material name drops it.Warhammer is a legacy brand that actively despises it is a legacy brand.
>wait 20 years for a captain on bike>its this modelholy zzzzzzzzzzz GW is cooked.
>>98566916Put a layer of Orange on an Eradicator marine for some test, painting it over ivory makes me not want to kill myself. Last time I did it, I did it over black that took 9 layers to cover.Also these push-fit models are awful, like I just hate the whole thing. Even with the pegs shaved, there are still visible gaps and whatnot. I got the Dawn of War box for cheap as a side project but they're all push-shit.Gonna finish painting the bags and other accessories of my Atalan Jackals for the rest of the night.
>>98567119Well I know you don't discuss those because you don't paint anything.
I wish marines had more characters than librarians/chaplains/captains
>>98567007then I think you run away from him and hide, or cut an elite unit to run a big chaff unit for the expess purpose of holding him down.I don't think hitting him with a car repeatedly to do mortals will do much, so I'm not really seeing another option. Since you mentioned so much shooting I'm assuming melee death squad isn't an option
>>98567122I look like this and say this
>>98567129Mostly nailed it, but I will give GW this - even in recent years they OCCASIONALLY put out some stuff that's still good top quality. It's not as grim as Star Wars where every single thing sucks complete utter turbowoke AIDS dick. For example, even this piece of art which just came out a few years ago, kicks ass and captures much of the old spirit of 40k. Or, an even more recent example, many of the new Ork models (not all, but many of them) are absolutely great.And that's the real problem. That's why there is no mass exodus and we cannot let go. Because for every two things modern GW fucks up and shittifies and replaces with retcons and slop and ugly woke bullshit or primaris faggotry, they do one thing right, and we all keep holding onto that thread of hope that maybe, after long enough, the balance will shift back towards getting it right more often than not. That's the suckiest part of all of this. We are constantly strung along with this faint hope.
Never bought a model and never will. Pirated Tabletop simulator. Computer that fell off a truck. Mcdonalds Wifi. Adblock on.
>>98567144Could be a lot worst and end like GSCOh you want proper units? Here have a character.
>>98567135wym it looks perty gud
>>98566653>But 12th edition will be a big rebootI'm actually getting tired of the reboot shit. All the editions between 3rd and 7th only had small changes, but the core gameplay largely remained the same. That made the transition from one edition to another a lot easier and also made it so each army didn't need a new codex every edition. An army could go a few editions without a new codex and it would be fine.This constant "let's completely rewrite the entire game every three years" bullshit is terrible for players. You have to essentially relearn the entire game every three years and that blows.
Why are (You) sp afraid to post your models anon? I bet they look better than you think!
Do I buy this?
>>98567153>recent years they OCCASIONALLY put out some stuff that's still good top quality.Such as? Honest question. Because modern models look prettier but are an absolute ass as game pieces. I mean a bunch of them have about the same amount of parts as an old model, but instead of being a reasonable split head, torso, armas and legs. Newer stuff is cut up in the most schizo way possible
>>98567165> sp
>>98567164Yeah maybe if you’re a stupid low IQ bitchI like learning rulesEspecially warhammer 40k rules
>>98567164Do you want the current game to be what we are playing 10 years from now? This game won't survive 5 years in this compslop edition. We need drastic changes.
>>98567167IF you're ready to get married to a corsair army and really plan on playing a corsair army, sure.
>>98567170Actual reason: get more detail from the mold.Schizophrenic hobbylet reason: GW doesn't want you to kitbash.
>>98567179I do not want more detail in my game pieces for fuck sake.If I wanted display models I would get display models.
>>98567165not really afraid but i have a decision paralysis what to tackle from the pile next
>>98567165But I post them almost every time there's an anchorpost
>>98567175The reason this edition is the way it is, is specifically because of faggots constantly clamoring for "drastic changes." If you wouldn't have bitched so much about 7th edition, the slow destruction of 40k that started with 8th edition never would have happened.
>>98566238This is the way. 4th ed ultimate supremacy.
>>98567209I should really make a version with 11th
>>98566219They're beautiful
>>98567170have you tried not playing marines?
>>98567200Terribly lit picture but he looks cool.
>>98567165My Armageddon orks are still in the mail from Poland, anon. I have some infinity and Malifaux if you want
>>98567215Modern 40k players wouldn't know what to do with room to maneuver units.
>>98567221i was shooting it at like 11pm in the attic, some sacrifices had to be made
>>98567165This is literally every single model I have painted since I started in January. I am kinda fucking tired of being a marine piggie, though; painting the Orks from the Armageddon box will be a treat.
>>98567165I post them too recklessly at times
>>98567158Isn’t that half the factions?
I’m pretty newWhat’s so great about 4th compared to 11th?
>>98567218Playing GSC and Sisters. GSC is passable but the little shits have annoying amount of details for something is not on the table for the a long time.Meanwhile Sisters are just ass so I have no reason to expand my old metal army.
>>98567235They can’t remember(Alzheimer’s)
>>98567235custodes dont exist
>>98567228They would do something stupid like adding a run mechanic to everyone!
>>98567115Kek, bodied that freak
I like orks :D
>>98567235 the game was built around making yourdudes rather than use GW’s. Also I was a literal child spending my mom’s money. Good times
>>98567238sorry, let me correct myself. have you tried playing orks?
>>98567235no knightsno custardsno gscno agents - inquisitorial ordos insteadno votannno mechanicus/skitariino legionslop - you just took your god-devoted unitsoldcronsno stratsno detachmentsfiring templatesbattlefield is anything from trenches to 2 lines of buildings with clear firing lines
>>98567165I post them quite often actually
>>98567160>>98567135it looks like one of my nephews paw patrol toys
>>98567259>no gscyou had me until here.
>>98567153Think a big part of being trapped it is how easy it is to tell GW to fuck off and still stay in the hobby.Your army loses a bunch of its old flavour and options, and you don’t like the new designs? Fuck you, I’ll just play with the legends rules.Your faction now revolves around some giant centrepiece model? No, fuck you, I’ll just play without it.They updated your range in a visually unappealing, dogshit way? Fuck you, I’ll keep my old models.Everything has to be marine hyper-focus zoom zoom bullshit? Fuck you, I wanna play with my xenos.Marines are probably the only faction genuinely getting their arm twisted. They either fully embrace modern 40K or they have to fuck off from the faction entirely (unless they’re willing to homebrew rules or play older editions). Most other factions can just give the middle finger and keep going like it’s whatever edition they prefer.
>>98566829>People thought that about 11th edition too.The fuck are you talking about? Everyone thought it would be an incremental version.
>>985672354th is technically speaking 3.5rd.So you have about a decade worth of content for a single edition. With most of the original issues fixed and with so much stuff to do that even decades later stuff like the lost and the damned still find new things to do with the army and that thing was a spinoff army
>>98567119>No one discusses the modelling or painting or lore or old games ever!Yeah, they really don't. There's been 2 different times where people tried making a dedicated 40k 4th edition and each time it lasted like 1 month before it died.If you want to talk about old 40k stuff there already exists the /GROG/ thread and you can talk about old stuff there.
>>98567195>hobbylet thinks he opinion matters That's cute.
>>98567235Even though it caused a lot of arguments and rules lawyering, I liked how vehicles were handled back then compared to now. Vehicle weapons had set firing arcs, different armor values based on front side and rear armor as well. So vehicle positioning and facing actually mattered. Also vehicles could have numerous effects from getting hit aside from just losing wounds like it is now. Those effects ranged from the crew getting temporality knocked out, to individual weapons being destroyed, to the vehicle being destroyed outright and violently exploding in a single hit.
>>98566185>TQNone, chaoschads win again!
>>98567281glancing 6s anyone?
>>98567259>no gsc>GSC having 2 different ruleset during 3rd>one being super civilian focused and the other a more military one>no mechanicus/skitarii Mechanicus did have rules>no legionsThe fuck are you talking?
>>98567288You honestly expect anyone to jerk off the older editions to have actually played them?
I hate the current crop of normgroid 40k players so much.>ITS FINE THAT GW INVALIDATED HALF OF YOUR ARMY SPACE MARINE PLAYERS CAUSE JUST PLAY WITH THE LEGENDS RULESListen you braindead motherfuckers, I started playing at the tail end of 8th. I have multiple kits that didn't get rules, even legends rules for at least 1 edition going from 8th-9th-10th-11th. I have one kit that has gotten no rules, not even legends since 8th edition. Consigning a kit to legends rules means they die a slow death. It invalidates the purchasers money and time. It drives me livid to see people defend it. It is such a blatant level of disrespect for the consumer but the paypigs eat it up anyways. Fucking maddening.I don't even play space marines by the way, I just can't stand these fucking people
>>98567263no it looks alot better than that
>>98567165>Asks why people aren't posting their models>Doesn't post any models of their ownI hope to god you drew that pic of Lelith anonI don't post pics because I live in an apartment building, my PC has been IP banned since I moved in, and email verification bugs out and sends me invalid links most days.
>>98567300>I started playing at the tail end of 8thYour loss, you deserve it.
>>98567165I posted them last night.
>>98566919People (humans) tend not to like it when bad things happen
>>98566185
>>98567165I post my stuff on occasion
>>98567129Toys are being thrown out of the pram lmao
>>98567288>>98567265ah shit they did have rules but were in state of no-models, my bad dawgs
>>98567300>It invalidates the purchasers moneyYou were buying a plastic toy, it's something meant to be built and painted, not investment.
>>98567300Space Marine players are what is wrong with the hobby.I hope your playgroup agrees to play something more fun like 4/5e with you. You missed out on most of the good editions.
>>98566413Anon... those dreads went away last edition I'm pretty sure.
>>98567144>lieutenants>techmarines>apothecaries>ancients
>>98567326Only Blood Angel dreads did. SW still have theirs.GW will just updated them into redemptors at some point though.
>>98567322It is a model, meant to be used in a wargame.>>98567323I have my first game of 4th booked for tomorrow.
>>98567232same
>>98567318Holy SOVL.
>>98567235old good new bad
>>98567235The game was more like a simulation of the battlefield with rules that tried to emulate that sort of thing, also lots of ways for your models to interact with the table and vice-versa.
>>98567316if they were alive it would be so cute watching all of them waddle around OwO
>>98567235Pick up the 3.5 chaos dex, the nid dex, or the guard dex and see for yourself. Rules for every chaos legion. Actual wargear costs, psychic powers. This book should have been the template for all books going forward.
>>98567263cool wip, when are you going to put on a wash and highlight it?
>>98567235I could autowin playing Eldar or Necrons. Now I have to work for it.
>>98567053Nah, he's right. You're just a bootlickers who will defend GW when femmarines come out too.
>>98567334>>98567165Have another
>>98567300Wait you started in 8th edition and bought old kits with no rules? Were you fishing for grognard cred or something?
>>98567300Probably Magic players so accustomed to standard rotation they don't consider it a problem.>Are all my current Space Marine miniatures redundant now?>No way! Primaris Space Marines do not replace regular (if a superhuman killing machine can be described as ‘regular’) Space Marines. These guys have a few extra genetic enhancements, thanks to Belisarius Cawl, and serve as additional reinforcements in the Adeptus Astartes arsenal, not replacements.
>>98567373Since 8th edition means they had rules in 8th and lost them after, reading comprehension-kun.
>>98567300That is honestly why you should actively encourage the use of legends rules and treat them as the “OOP units” side of the hobby, not the “old thing we don’t give a fuck about anymore” part. Not everything can stay in production forever, but old units should remain as viable now as they were in their day, even after they have gone out of production.Ironically, moving into Legends for 10th edition was some of the most love a lot of units received. While they were still technically “fully supported” in 9th, that edition had a full print Forge World book that was a complete mess of missing units and broken rules, because it shipped at the start of the edition still using 8th edition army rules and abilities. And that was a mainline product they charged money for.Seething at legends (and at people willing to use them) is wasted breath. Demand that GW treat them with the respect they deserve instead of directing that energy at the players who still field them. In 9th, being moved to legends often felt like the end. In 10th you could actually get solid rules. Going into 11th legends are even getting a degree of recognition from GW. Look at how The Old World guys handled it legends are simply free rules for the army, and that’s it.
>>98567382I am lucky in that my gaming group does not care whether something is legends or not. You are correct that 10th had way more support for legends than 9th, which was one of the few good things about 10th. It's never affected me, but I always hear that people will refuse to to play against legends units cause they're not balanced or whatever and that's got to hurt.
>>98567316>collecting that many dreadsRip bozo
>>98567390Nta but some of us are passionate about the hobby
>>98567382ToW players typically use renegade rules which are community modifications to the Legends armies to make them more viable and fix obvious shit that needs errata. It's even in most army builders by default. Getting a modern 40k player to accept playing with legends units alone is like pulling teeth, accepting community patches in tournaments is not even remotely possible at the moment.
>>98566185Imperial Knights codex is missing from the mega
>>98567403GOOD
>>98567390I even have 2 more on top of this.
>>98566242The only thing about it that upsets me is a lightsaber is a terrible weapon for a Terminator, Vader may be a strength build but it requires at least a degree of manual dexterity. If you want to blend Star Wars and 40k there are better things out there.
>>98567288>The fuck are you talking?they were not larping as their seperate ranges with codices like the current 4 god legions with the undivided ones modifying foc (which you could argue makes my point about no detachments a lie which i would be keen to agree upon further thinking), nor did ad mech with their custom regimental rules - they were still guard
>>98567386People refusing to play Legends units because “they’re not balanced” is really funny to me, given the absolute shit state of the actual balance at any given point.“I refuse to play that Guard guy running Minotaurs which are basically just more expensive, tougher Basilisks with twin-linked. That shit’s not balanced.”“This guy with three Defilers and a Huron Blackheart spam list, and his mate with C’tan Shard spam Necrons? That’s real 40K, goddamn it.”
>>98566374Rumor has it that they're gonna remove the chaos rhino chassis tanks too and make a chaos upgrade sprue for the primaris tanks.
>>98567431That'd be funny.
>>98567429It's completely made up, my friend ran the legend brettonians in AoS before old world up to 3rd ed.
Given>current yearwould GW even attempt to think about a refresh on the scale of 5th ed 'crons? One that totally redefines and visually shifts the faction to the point that they can barely be called the same?
>>98567300maybe you shouldn't of bought the old ugly clearly being replaced kits.AHAHAHAHAHA i love laughing at spacebabies tears. this is not the first time something like this has happened, just the first time it happened to spacebabies.
>>98567450Nothing is getting nostalgia baiting refresh except for marines bro.
>>98567431>chaos not being able to use imperial equipment because fuck you was alway stupid >GW finally let’s chaos use imperial equipment >but only the primaris shit >and only some them >also weird keyword spaghetti about what can and can’t ride in what so only chosen can use them>also fuck you the mauler and forge fiend are heresy units now >also we are sending the sorcerer in terminator armor to legends >also world eaters are losing access to eightbound
>>98567429people always get autism at labels and unfortunately when people hear "opponents permission" their knee jerk reaction is that it must be OP and they default to no. in the past it was named characters, then forgeworld, now legends, anytime you create a separate label it makes cowards cower in fear.
>>98567450No.
>>98567459i mean after the boom it seems that the visuals are so locked in for vast majority of factions that even if they had really old models in need of refresh and could be pivoted they wouldn't be. If you need an example vostroyans suddenly being way less russian looking and just tangentially winter themed
>>98566291I will be getting a 60 to 90MM base extender and just run this guy as whatever retarded primaris dreadnought model they call it now
>>98567450Nothing is really in a position for a major refresh to that degree right now, beyond maybe the Grey Knights GW might try to make them look more visually distinct from regular Marines. Everything else is either decently up to date or already has a very clear visual identity for what new models should look like.The only other candidate that comes to mind is Daemons. Their range is old, they have a ready made excuse for a massive visual overhaul, and the faction could really use more god specific Daemons plus assorted Warp fuckery creatures for variety when players stick to a single god. But GW clearly hates the idea of Daemons being usable across multiple systems, so that’s unlikely to happen unless they create an entirely new Daemons range locked to just one game.
>>98567235I can almost guarantee it boils down to simplicity. There wasn't each unit having their own rules or objectives or a lot of the bloat there is in modern editions.
>>98567399Passion = collecting more boxdreads than one can field in a list?>>98567408>deredioYuck, but of course
>>98567071no its a gun for the tempestor. That little guy is legally just a token so he moves around but isnt actually a Model in the unit. Basically you shoot with the sentry instead of the pistol. I think any of the guns are good. If you take the melta, then take the sentry grenade launcher then the squad has 3 str9 attacks. if you have very few flamers take the flamer, if you take the plasma gun take the volley gun.
>>98567167all those kits are good. and it should be a good discount.
So what is Bru that Votann drink, they mention it is both an alcohol and a stimulant, but also that it's served warm (steamy is used often) and it has a very earthy scent.Is it some sort of fucked up alcoholic chinese tea?
>>98567535>chinese teaWhere are you from, you haven't drunk much beer/mead have you?
>>98567542I haven't had mead, and none of the beers I've had I would call particularly earthy at least compared to a peated whisky or a chinese tea. I swear some of them are just actual soil sometimes.
>>98567542>drunk much beer/meadwhere the fuck are you from that you equate these two drinks?
>took it down and relisted because he thinks he can get more now that it's 'oop'
>>98567535literally piss from a very drunk ironkin
>>98567560Well based on your description here alone (I haven't read any votann lore myself yet) it sounds more like a spiced mead/mulled wine type drink, and given they're dorfs I'd lean more towards mead. The spices can be quite earthy and include some sort of stimulant. Spiced ales are a thing, brown or dark ales are very British and earthy, though beer is not generally served warm ofc (though in Engerland is often drunk at room temp). I'm going to guess you're either a chink or mutt if your mind jumped to chinese tea
Sometimes I read spiced as spicced
>>98567571Once bought a unit of metal black orcs from some guy on eBay for a decent price because it was old black orcs and who care and then while it was actively shipping Old World got announced. The dude sent several messages begging me to refund the item and send it back.
Damn you marinefags ruin every thread
>>98567165I only got a chance to paint the test models before my city got vulcanized
>>98567525Are you aware of the Siege Assault Vanguard anon?Running squads of Dreadnoughts in your Troops slot? That's 18 Dreads in troops!Half of those dreads are specialty or FW ones anywayRedemptors are post-7th, One is a GK, one is DC, Couple Leviathans, Contemptors, somehow no Achillus though.I don't think there's too many redundancies.Only one Venerable,
>>98567431If they do, they’re going to make daemon engines replacements, not primaris. Like a daemon cat bus or something.
This is an Anointed that I made. Made the claw with green stuff. The Anointed is apparently only from Kill Team though? What unit did it get changed into for full scale 40k? Or are some units never rolled into full 40k?
>>98567571>trawl ebay>find thing for reasonable price>its in the uk so shipping is rape and you need to roll a 4+ to see if it doesn't just get claimed by the void anywaymeanwhile everything in the us-only listings is RARE OOP OUT OF PRINT OLDHAMMER LIMITED RARE that'll be a cool 500% parkup plus tipat least the chances of it being some family member or previous roomate throwing a bunch of models in a blurry picture and listing "sit ays Warhammer on them idk $1 obo" are -slightly- higher.
>>98567628Legionaire with heavy melee weapon
>>98567628I think he just counts as a guy with a chainsword. Some of the kill team units carried over as upgrades including the aspiring sorcerer.
>>98567580I'm an aussie (white), I just have a fondess for tea. It's fun. The only dark ale I can recall trying is guinness. Usually for beers I go lighter with the majority of drinking being spirits or wine neither of which I consider especially earthy in the palate. Admittedly my mulled wine experience is limited but it was more on the sweet side
>>98567628For CSM you could probably just chosen or possessed depending on which one you like the rules and idea of most for him. For Death Guard probably just plague marines. They have a shit ton of melee options per squad.
>>98567562Where do you think, cunt?>equate these twoHuh, what does this mean? Spiced beer and mead are very similar flavour profiles.
>>98567643you don't get to add a qualified now, you compared normal beer and mead
>>98567235Felt like a wargame, not like analogue League of Legends mixed with MtG mechanics.Blast templates, scatter, armour facings, vehicle damage tables, fire arcs, morale that actually made things run away, better mission design, initiative, force org charts, huge armouries with options, deep strike wasn't restricted to an arbitrary denial range, the game wasn't balanced around having stacking auras or special abilities that only activate while standing on generic objectives or using the right gotcha stratagems, psychic powers actually existed, kill team wasn't a separate game with completely different stats and mechanics that made you relearn everything just to play, special characters required opponent's permission to use and only at certain game sizes, board sizes were bigger with more room to move around and felt like a battlefield instead of a video game arena, army sizes were smaller and easier to collect/manage, different terrain had different immersive rules (jungle, ice worlds, swamps, cityfight), re-rolls were rare, there were over 50 subfactions when you included all the optional content from chapter approved and imperial armour and supplements, no flyers unless you wanted to use the optional flyer rules from Forge World (which were way better than later editions), same deal with super-heavies, game was so easy to learn I picked it up when I was still single-digit years old, easy to adjust rules from any edition 3rd-7th to make it compatible with 4th if you want, rules to custom design your own vehicles/proper looted wagons for orks, rules to make your own giant tyranid monsters, rules to make your own custom space marine chapters, rules to make your own imperial guard regiments that were so detailed and varied you could even custom build alien wildlife for your rough riders to use as exotic mounts, every chaos legion felt different and had 300 options, this game was literally so much fucking better than modern editions I am running out of characte
Bolter to your head, could you paint one Primaris Intercessor in 2 hours from sprue to fully painted battle ready?
>>98567640Well if you don't mind beer, start sampling the import aisle at Dan's. A lot of interesting tasting yuro and Brit beers there. Mead is in the fortified wines aisle.>>98567645>normal beerSomeone's being a pedant now
>>98567655>Primaris IntercessorWhy would I ever sully my brushes with that dogshit
>>98567633>rare oop!>it's just an older box art from a kit that was launched in 2020 and still in print
>>98567655Yes. It should be easy compared to any GSC model
>>98567655Yeah. Probably.
>>98567655Oh no, that's way too big for such a short time.
>>98567655gw definition of battleready slapping on contrast paint and trim till i reach 3 colors? yesto some autistic standard that won't be noticed unless under magnifying glass? maybe i could
>>98567655absolutely not, I'm pretty slow at assembly and awful at painting. Maybe if we remove any quality qualifiers.I'd be willing to give it a shot though if I could somehow get a free solo intercessor sprue
>>98567655Primer literally doesn't dry fast enough for that, every single person replying to this before me is a nomodels paintlet.
>>98567683no one said you can't cheat with an airbrush to prime
>>98567655It takes me about 3 hours to paint my CSM guys with all their trim and bullshit to way above 'battle-ready' standard. I've painted one(1) non-chaos marine and I was astounded at how little time it took. I think I can handle a Primaris, the question is what do I do with the remaining 1 hour and 30 minutes.
>>98567646Damn
>>98567683Just skip the primer and rawdog the plastic. Pull out the hairdryer after each step
>>98567165People get angry seeing 30k models in a 40k csm army so I stopped posting them.
>>98567683You can paint over army painter rattlecans after 5 minutes
>>98567709You can but it's still slightly sticky and not fully cured, it'll fuck up the smoothness of your coats. For best results always prime the day before painting and leave to dry overnight.
>>98567655I actually have the armageddon ones, so I’ll accept your challenge. once its primed I’ll stop the timer to account for drying/curing like >>98567683 said. what chapter would I paint it though?
>>98567707>People get angry seeing 30k models in a 40k csm armyLiterally who? GW executives?
>>98567724>what chapter would I paint it though?Blood Angel, since it's Armageddon.
Why can't other paint companies make good washes? Seriously, there are some halfway decent ones, but no other company can seem to make a wash that performs quite as well as fucking Nuln Oil and Agrax Earthshade. All other brands I've tried mute or darken my entire paint job way too much while Nuln Oil and Agrax Earthshade do an awesome job of just settling into the recesses without darkening my paint job too much, even when I just slather it on the entire model.I fucking hate GW and hate having to say anything good about them, but damn they still make the best washes. Other companies may have caught up to them in other areas, but they are still leagues ahead of the rest of the industry when it comes to washes.
>>98567235>>98567694The rules were designed to facilitate a wargame that fitted the idea of what a fictional battle looked like from a narrative perspective, so they were fluffy. What this means is there's a bunch of immersive things like armor facings so where your tank is pointing matters, having to actually turn your guns to point at their targets. In melee combat you had a chart that compared Weapon Skill stats to determine what roll you needed to land a hit rather than being static to the weapon. Re-rolls are incredibly rare, and in general you don't roll the huge piles of dice like you do in modern 40k so every single result matters. A character with T5, 3 wounds, and a 4+ invuln save is considered stupidly tanky. But what this also means is that if your idea is to capital-g Gamer it, then it's very easy to break, or at the very least try to argue over as-written vs as-intended. This is why Templates and Guess- weapons went away. The biggest difference to what it was actually like though, is that you did not know what you were facing until it happened. In modern 40k there is a lot of communicating with each other on what your intentions are, not so for back in the day. Half of the game was surprisingly the other player with what you did. But, like the rules, this made it very easy to gotcha everyone if you were intending to.
>>98567707>saturnine terms Oblitorstors right? I run my lads as mutilators. They are really fun to have come rocketing out of a Spartan.
>>98567735army painter washes blow the reformulated shitadel "shade paints" out of the water
>>98567655Yes, but I wouldn't like it
>>98567676So either prime, base color, shade, texture baseOr prime, contrast, texture base.
>>98567735Maybe the old formula but the "new" agrax fucking sucks, dries super glossy and smears all around.
>>98567724Loyalist Night Lords
>>98567692I like the color scheme anon. That yellow cable is just *chefs kiss* and adds some nice pop to the model.
>>98567655YesMarines are huge, mostly monocolor, and don't have very many intricate details.Trimming sprue ends and mould lines would be the only iffy part and that's down to "how long does it take for me to stop bleeding when I inevitably cut my finger" more than anything else.I have painted exactly one (1) space marine, it was the free model once when I went into a Warhammer store. The rest of my paint experience is on smaller figures with more details, I am in no way afraid of painting a space marine.
>>98567692I really need to get around to painting squares on my eliminator capes
>>98567756Holy
>>98567655easy peasy weasy squeezy.contrast that ho, paint the gun, paint the aquila, paint the eyes, texture slop. >>985676835 minutes depending on weather and you can paint perfectly over citadel or monument primer. Dont be a sperg.
>>98567235You've been given a pretty thorough rundown, but for me it's that vehicles were better. Flanking a tank actually accomplished something, and wrecked vehicles stayed on the table as terrain instead of blinking and disappearing like a video game. They got shittier once hull points were introduced before GW gave up entirely and made them monstrous creatures.
>>98567655Intercessors arent that bad compared to chaos trim.
>>98567756NTA, but “loyalist” night lords could be kind of cool >Heresy is becoming a cluster fuck >Don’t want to follow these lunatics into the warp >Disappear into the ass end of the galaxy as raiders and pirates intentionally not trying to get the imperium attention >Oh these idiots have a bunch of chapters now >Hey guys I have an idea, get the paint. >Random chapter shows up out of nowhere calming to be the sons of whatever the fuck or the guardians who gives a shit >Yeah guys we are a forgotten loyalist chapter from the *cough cough* founding >Now you get to extort random imperial worlds and brutalize xenos >And all you have to do is occasionally chant for the emperor and not do chaos shit
>>98567165Nearly finished rebuilding and cleaning up eBay rescues for a retro project after stripping them yesterday. Will need get some jump packs for the assault marines 3D printed.Still deciding on a Chapter for them. Amusingly, I’m going to have two retro projects now as these guys are tiny next to my upscaled tacticals I was hoping to combine them with. Will post the comparison next.
>>98567745I like what their washes do when they settle in the recesses, but they still darken things down way too much if you get them on raised areas.
>>98567791Don’t talk to me or my son againThinking maybe Soul Drinkers for the real old school guys. Not sure yet for the upscaled dudes.
>>98567817Maybe go full retro and do a completely forgotten to time chapter?
How good are panel liners since shade paints are only good for recess shading anyway
>>98567655Absolutely. Battle ready is just three colors and a base: spray prime with the main color, paint the gun another color, pick out metallics, slap some texture paste onto the base, done.
>>98567827Very nice and really comfortable to work with since you can clean up anything you don't like
What army has the worst battleline units to paint? Not like quantity but like one model from beginning to end
>>98567735Maybe the armypainter wash mixed with speedpaint medium will be what you’re looking for?I think it should work like contrast medium plus citadel shade paint or ak’s quick gen medium and their acrylic washes too.I’m unsure what the secret sauce in the contrast mediums are that makes the washes work better.>example:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2aOIuGKe4wo&ra=m>7:58 in vid because mobileHope it helps!
>>98567835admech or 1ksons
>>98567840Oh God I completely forgot about Rubrics. Yeah, those probably win.
>>98567844Absolutely bitching sculpts though.
>>98567835GSC.Weirdly overly detailed front the spamable kind of unit they are. Something like guard you could base coat one color and say yep that’s the uniform, pick out the skin tone and metallics, and call it done even if to a poor standard. GSC has a lot of stuff that demands to be picked out color wise.
>>98567825That’s kind of what I was thinking with the Soul Drinkers. Battered old veterans, cast out of the Imperium and lost in the warp. I think that fits the eBay recuses quite well. As for my upscaled guys, I’m still puzzling. I have a tactical squad and devastator squad built so far. Want to get them all painted before I get anything else.
>>98567850Oh absolutely
>try to do an eBay rescue>some of these are painted way better than my guysMaybe I was the one who needed rescuing all along.
>>98567868Double up on the theme maybe and adopt an abyssal crusade chapter? Gives an excuse for anything that’s damaged or missing bits since it’s a chapter literally charging into hell and trying to hold on as long as possible.
>>98567840I paint both I'm insane
Why the fuck are there four /40kg/s? What happened? Did GW announce female marines?
>>98567900firstborns gone
>>98567900An impatient idiot makes new thread the moment we hit the image limit.
>>98567900firstborns finally got 100% squatted
>>98567909So it finally happened, huh. All of the fuckers who said it wouldn't must be utterly silent.Maybe this wave of sunsetting will spell the beginning of the end. Unlikely, because we're not allowed to have nice things.
Do you paint many models are once or one at a time?
>>98567165i played a game with my models last weekend
>>98567921Characters or vehicles - one at a time. Squads - batch painting 3-5 at a time.
>>985679212-3 at a time, so I have something to do while a layer is drying
>>98567921one at a time, always
>>98567925Oh hey, is that you cheese man?
>>98567921I like one at a time. I went to the trouble to convert each of my orks to not just be the same guy spread across a couple boxes. I use spare paint to pick way at other orks, but habe a specific one in mind when I work on them
>>985679215 at most (in a squad). i get to start and stop painting various shit and any given time so i have plenty of half done models. pretty sure i have undiagnosed adhd but i manage to finish those models eventually
>>98567893Love that idea, it fits perfectly. Managed to pick these guys up in my eBay spree. Could be cool to paint them as the Chaos warband my retro marines would eventually become in the crusade.
>>98567910I hope one of the jannies gets off his ass and bans them for spamming generals but they work for free so that ain't gonna happen anytime soon.Staying in a thread after image limit would also probably stop that space wolf shitposter too, since he wouldn't be able to post his commissioned models
>>98567861>tfw my neophytes look "ok" despite ignoring most of the details
>>98567643calm down ratfag its a bit early to be drinking even for a qlder dont you think?
>>98567921I play guard so I do them in batches1 squad (and their leader) or vehicle at a time.
>>98567946>shitposter-kun swoops in an hour later to try stir up beefLiterally what is your problem? You ever engage properly with the thread or is this all you do?
>>98567910>waaahh I need more space on the board for moar thi ly veiled fetish and whataboutism threads!>>98567943Nothing stops the mutant, we've all seen he'll just keep samefagging and conversate with himself even if he gets ignored.
What's the most 'Murrican way to base my Orks? I was thinking a desert base to go with the Cowboy hats, but I normally paint board games so I don't have much experience basing
>>98567921Depends. If it's something I've done lots of times before, I switch. Whatever colors I do initially I often do as a batch, stuff that's easy and doesn't need precision. After a few steps of that is laid down, I will usually switch over to one model at a time. As an example, my Orks usually get their metallics and skin tones done as a batch, then everything else gets finished model by model.
>>98567910Image board you newfag>>98567943Not gonna happen, it's been board etiquette to make a new thread after image and bump limit for over a decade, lurk moar
>>98567973basing for deserts is piss easy >grab some armageddon dust or whatever AK/Vallejo terrain paint is listed “desert”>slather it on the base>glue a couple of army painter bushes downwa la you’re done.
>>98567976how did you get the orange of your squigs? it looks really good.
Think the last of first born getting shuffled off and the marine half of Armageddon getting a mixed reception will finally help curb the constant marine bloat? Or will GW see 17 units being retired as the perfect opportunity to introduce 30 redundant ones along side some named characters?
>>98567951i like to post models from time to time
>>98567996Averland Sunset mixed with VGC Orange fire for the base coat, layering up with more orange and then bringing in a gold yellow into the orange for highlights, I used TTC Skulker Yellow.
>>98567973>so I don't have much experience basingGood thing desert is foolproof, babbies' first basing style.>get some sand, yes can be from your garden (filter for smoother consistency/bake to kill germs as desired)>glue assorted rocks/cactus bitz to base>pva the base, sprinkle that sand shit on>alternatively mix a batch of pva/sand and slop that on (all sticks on better this way)>paint as desiredViolet
>>98567900marinefags having a melty as usual, they cant help themselves
>>98567165i do but im a slow painter so i dont wanna shit up with the thread with several WIP images, theres no need for it
>>98567995I'm not worried about difficulty, it's not something I normally think about, so I don't know how to think about it. So my question is more about is there a better option than slapping them in a desert and are there some touches I can add to make it feel more 'murrican?
>still yet to play a game of 11this it FUN, gamesbros?
>>98567921I do one at a time but patch paint small details I know I'll forget later on.
>>98568019If you don't have silty soil or sand in your area for good texture, you can also go buy a bag of play sand. Sieve it for larger rocks (you can save them as more basing material) and you can just use that instead.If you're doing like a kill team and that's it, you can also buy little bags of sand sold as "ballast" in varying grain sizes meant for model train dioramas so you don't have a 15 pound bag that's 95% full just sitting around.
>>98568012Post them then instead of being such a mouthbreathing dropkick cunt just trying to piss people off with inflammatory bs. Mutie gets a lot of attention but you're just as bad, always around, always inciting thread drama by poking your head in with comments that are just enough ontopic and yet blatantly wrong in some way to start arguments
>>98568036its wildly overcomplicated nonsense. just trying to find out what you actually need to do to score or what the mission is requires cross referencing a disposition matrix and everyone has different and constantly changing secondary objectives.
>>98568036Felt like slightly more intelligently, but more finicky designed 10th, but my first and so far only game was running my own Iron Warriors against my own Orks as a tutorial game for a friend of a friend that got brought to a get together. Honestly it will take play one of the new codex to really see since that’s a far better way to tell if the design is up to snuff vs just playing 10th codexes with some extra rules on top
>>98567921One at a time is best, I find 3 at a time is good for if I’m doing a big unit. Usually I batch paint blocking in all the colours then do all the trim and finicky bits carefully and individually.Also my Collage submission is ready.
>>98568036I've enjoyed the couple of games I've played so far.
Is 4e oldhammer or midhammer?
>>98568003We still have some multipart kits that might appear at some point. Phobos lieutenant with combi weapon and the apothecary biologis are stuck on the same sprue with 5 vanilla sternguard vets. judiciar is similar as well. After what happened with suppressors I think we might see some more datasheet cleanup next edition. The less bloat the easier it is to develop bolder and more interesting character and detachment rules.
>>98568049>cross referencing a disposition matrixSo what I'm hearing is rhat tables are BACK BABEY and the newkiddies are discombobulated
>>98568044uh oh ratfag melty, funny that coming from ritual poster
Army for this feel?
>>98568049>>98568062>>98568069ill have to organise one at my lgs sometime soon, everyone there seems to think its great but im a bit suspicious of being that good
>>98568074It's literally just>here's the army type I'm playing>oh cool, I'm playing this type>*checks table*>okay we're playing this mission then. here's your objective card, and this one is mineIt's pretty easily parsed all things considered. Obviously like any new thing you're learning it'll take a little bit to take it all in but once you get over the initial hurdle it's pretty easy.
What if it's because some GW lawyer internally said "we probably can't copyright a M113" so now they're rotating that stuff out?
>>98568074>tables are BACK BABEYexcept you dont actually get a table. you just get a list of options, your opponent has a list of options, you then have to cross reference your lists together against a third list of cards to get your mission, and then each list has its own list of secondary objectivesbut nowhere is there a table that visually organizes any of this, at least not in the official material
>>98568083imperial agents
>>985680837-1? probably guard painted in ss waffen colours
>>98568076to be fair, they’re only always around. the only ritual poster who was malicious with his posts was the PAK guy. the ones we have fall under coomers or people with a hyper fixation about their faction.
What armies do you think they play?
How did the Space Marines react to learning the Tau have a model older than them?
>>98568097i dont see the big banshee butts & the fem custodes coomer much anymore, every few threads if that. its just ratfag, deldar refresh and i like orks :D posters now. which one was the PAK guy?
I miss marines
>>98568101none, they cant roll dice or move units anon
>>98568072>datasheet cleanup>less bloatGuard has>3 nearly identical sets of infantry units, only 1 of them is older than 2023>an entire set of special infantry that have a 1DP detachment just for them and aren't even good with that detachment>7 Leman Russ variants, a plurality of which barely see play>a sidegrade cavalry unit that has no other same-regiment units in the entire roster>4 transports (one of which can only transport Tempestus units)If guard gets cut down, the melty will be thrice the size of the Steel Legion and Baneblade ones combined. The only real problem Guard has in "bloat" is the battleline, heavy weapon and command squad duplicates, but I know that GW won't see it that way.I can fully see the Catachan models getting taken out back as a whole though.>>98568101Death Guard (disgusting), Emperor's Children (loud and annoying) and Ultramarines (soulless)
>>98568070Genuinely, this is going to sound crazy, but oldhammer is literally just first edition (Rogue Trader) and 2nd edition is midhammer. 3rd/4th edition is another era entirely. In recent years people have started calling that one "classichammer" to differentiate it, which goes up to 7th. 8th and 9th is nuhammer and I don't even know what the fuck to call 10th and 11th, it's like age of sigmar 40,000.
>>98568097One of shitposter-kuns latest bits is just calling every Aussie ratfag, he's just being a disingenuous ass for (you)s but also yes as far as ritualposters go at least he has and posts models. I despise him for being a vt simp but that's about it
Next thread should be a tribute to our fallen manlets. Every marinefag should post his guys.
>>98568121its just shitposting m8 i wouldnt get too upset over it
>>98568105Primaris Are King he stopped posting a while back, but he started out posting primaris minis and stating “Primaris Are King” then would begin openly throoding before image limit and/or page 8.
>>98568132yeah, I’ll post some “fallen” marines alright.
>>98568107>pointless circular plate on their pack for no reason>pointless knee flanges>pointless ankle joints>abandoned iconic MKVII helmet>abandoned iconic bolter >sleeker, more stock-standard scifi looking details>phobos have stupid looking chicken legs>gravis are just tacticus with a hood but are somehow teminator-liteI really just don't like anything about primaris
>>98568134It just sullies the thread. Like I said, you are on the same level as the mutie, in here every day, posting the same old argumentative shit. If someone says they like purple you say purple sucks just to try kick off a fight, you're an insidious faggot and you go mostly ignored and unnoticed just because you don't attach pics to your posts. Last (you) from me. Shut the fuck UP shitposter-kun
wow he’s really mad now
>>98568147woe is me bottom left
>>98568132I threw away my old manlets that I bought in 4th ed way back during 8th.
>>98568148I equally hate everything you said, but just to be completely fair I will mention the few things I do like about Primaris.>extra thigh plates>...Yeah that's it, I'm out. One single thing.
>>98568112it seems like GW is more comfortable with combined arms style lists now for non space marine chapters, even if it fucks with your own personal head canon of your dudes. Now any CSM can take the nemesis claw which is basically just a group of night lord specialists.I guess their vision for guard is an army comprised of specialists from all over the imperium. maybe it's a lesson they learned from the tempestus days?
>>98568163>throwing away minis instead of resellingDo people really?
>>98568171No he's shitposting.
>>98568171Yeah, I'm about to do a cull. Some shit I will just bin instead of doing the hassle of e-begging.
>>98568163How sad
>How many Dreads has GW forced you to shelfOnly 1, I have one old boxnaught from like 2006 in a closet somewhere. When I did a refresh of my army more recently I have all new stuff.Honestly, old marines are legal proxies for intercessors, devastators are desolators. And all of the tanks are just impulsors as far as I'm concerned. You can use the vast majority of your army and people aren't going to mind. Even at events you can use the "legal proxies" stuff unless a TO says no if I understand correctly.>>98566735Marines, orks, emp's children, custodes, and necrons are strong while being fairly straightforward. Custodes have a smaller average model count so each activation matters a lot, which is the difficulty with them.khorne marines are also pretty straightforward and ok but they have a couple meta difficulties.Orks are arguably the best faction in the game right now and they literally just decalare advance+charge when they feel like it and kill stuff. Small boards favor them, and they have an absurd optional play pattern at the moment where you take 3 max size boyz mobs and attach warbosses and painboys and it's just really simple and super effective. One might say it's both cunningly brutal and brutally cunning in it's simplicity. However, this is the exact sort of thing that gets nerfed because it's problematic, so don't build/collect around it. Buy 30 boyz if that's what you like to see, paint, assemble, and play. Not because it's meta.But honestly don't go for what is easy just because it's easy. the same goes for painting. You should absolutely 100% go with the faction that has the best models or lore for you, and you should just learn to paint them or learn to play them even if it's harder. It will just take more time, that's all.
>>98568176I mean you can at least donate it so some little Timmy finds it at the local thrift store and gets a cheap start on hobbying. Binning minis makes no sense to me, shit is expensive
Are we expecting any news for total war 40k or Dawn of war for the gayme shows tomorrow? I feel like we’re kinda lacking with 40k news in general folks.
>>98568171Who would want this old trash? One thing is new on sprue and another some used/painted old mini.Literally not one person I know kept their old marines.
>>98568183Oh that's first priority. But Idk who the fuck wants dominion lmao.
>>98568169That's always been what the guard was, since 2nd edition. They bring in all these different regiments to a warzone, throw them into a meatgrinder, and then the left over 10% of guys that survive from each regiment are just combined into one ragtag mishmash group afterwards because the logistics of getting every little group of survivors to match up with a new fresh regiment from their same homeworld is impossible. So you can justify having a regiment of all the same guys if they're fresh arrivals who just got to the battlefield, but can just as easily justify throwing a little of everything into a big mixing pot and running Catachans and Valhallans and Cadians and Kriegers and Steel Legion all together. That's another reason Commissars exist, they act as the glue to teach all these different parts to get along and smooth over cultural differences.
>>98568185>>98568186>whoI just said >>98568183, little Timmy who doesn't give two fucks about what the models actually are, he's just excited to find Warhammer for cheap. Kid me was scrounging through the newspaper for Warhams buy/sell ads constantly
>>98566946>we don't know how to use computersWe? ಠ_ʖಠ
>>98568132I'm going to bed so here's my workbench full of WIP proxies. Working on Hellblaster proxies but stopped after yesterday to convert some spare tacticals and my devestators into an eradicator squad
>>98568154its hilarious, the poor bloke seems to think only one person doesnt like ratfag, in dire need of some meds clearly. i cant even post here "every day" due to my shitty work schedule
>>98568184I don't know, ask /v/Don't even mean this in a dickish way, I just think you'll get a better response there
>>98568194Little timmies nowadays play roblox and minecraft not fighting resellers on ebay for outdated (classic) boomer toys.
>Tau Pulse rifles said to be stronger than bolters but suffer from lacking penetration, similar to bolters>Bolters said to be bad at penetrating ceramite>Check weapon stats>Pulse Rifles are worse in every way, with lower RoF, lower strength, lower penetration and lower damage
>shitposter-kun now samefaggingEvery day my schizo theory that he and decalplopper are the same person seems to grow stronger...
I thought Australians were used to shitposting, never seen one have a meltdown like that anon
you guys are really hungry for a hatecow now that the mutant is getting banned too quick
>>98568169>their vision for guardThis is clearly not what the vast majority of actual guard players want; I get they have this antagonistic relationship with guardfags (see the "where is my steel legion?" redub of the Armageddon video and the "painting DKoK as Steel Legion" video), but going out of their way to intentionally design in a way contrary to your target audience's preferences?You'd think they would try to cater to the audience, but then again this is GW.
>>98568230Don't say guys, it's one guy trying to hate brigade the ratfag
>>98568230anyone is a hatecow if you decide to hate them hard enough.
Should I get another infantry unit or a vehicle for this army? It's been weeks and I've been paralyzed by choice.
>>98568219AYOO any poopdickschizos in the chat???
How do I become a hatecow?
>>98568242Oh my god THIN YOUR PAINTS BRUH
>>98568242That paint job. Please tell me this is your first army anon? Also>ton of infantry, one (1) vehicle>what do I get next???I'd say another vehicle
>>98568250They're actually too thin
>>98568247to be a proper lol/hatecow you need to own models, so you can build up infamy because without them people will just pass you by like >>98568150 said. then after that just be really antagonistic toward anyone around you, and generally shit up the thread. wa la, you’re now a hatecow.
>>98568247>start an army, overspend on it buying every single model in the line multiple times and never play them>be bad at painting and never be willing to improve or accept criticism or advice>insist that your chosen army is broken OP and all their heccin cool OC powerwank is good>defend awful sculpts by GW for your army because they cater to your weird interest in them/a fetish>be easily recognizable for a negative stereotype like being a /pol/sperg (in either direction), a consistent conversational tic or acting out when someone gets under your skin>never paint your HellblastersYea try these
>>98568256Thanks, what should I prioritize? I'm right near 1000 points.
>>98568150I'm glad I'm not the only one who has noticed that particular faggot
>>98567527thank you, knew about the token part but could not find answers regarding whether it was a one-and-done or not. i'll be taking the grenade launcher
>>98568150>It just sullies the threadOh won't someone PLEASE think of the sanctity of a 4chan general thread?! How DARE anyone be irreverent on this anonymous imageboard!
>>98567979it literally wasn'twe used to wait until page 9/10t. remembers /sosg/
>>98567165I recently started posting a lot of them. Still have some hidden though for when I need to really hit someone with the "post models". (im joking, I think that's silly.)
>>98568277Literally posted proof of it happening regularly back in 2015 yesterday you dumb wannabe janny faggot
>>98568256Oh and yes, it is my first army
>>98568185There are tons of firstborn autists out thereIf you didn't think in a few years that 2010s marine players were gonna be stubborn about not buying primaris and stick with manlets to the bitter end then you probably aren't very smart
>>98568272I try not to engage but it frustrates me that he never gets the spotlight shone on his shitty antics, never seems to cop a ban because he knows to stay just ontopic enough>>98568276Having a laff now and then is cool. I definitely do some cheeky posts once in a while. This guy is here constantly and never gives up the baitposting, there's a point where it just isn't amusing
>>98566259Why did they say they hated that?I just started daemons dont tell me theyre getting the squat.
>>98568301I don't think about mentally ill and neither should you.
>>98568317Primaris shitter is ESL, imagine my surprise.>PRIMARIS ARE KING SAAAR. DO NOT REDEEM FIRSTBORN BLOODY BITCH BASTARD.
im going to become a ritual poster
>>98568083Craftworld Eldar
>>98568317Not dodging the low IQ allegations
>>98568242honestly i'd base your miniatures before doing anything elseThen probably a dread, some sort of anti tank.
>>98568279how'd you manage to do the crackles, is that from crackle paint? looks great
>>98568310probably not but they don't get a lot of support.
>>98568324What's your ritual going to be?
>>98568150>here every dayDoes that mean you are here every day too? Fuck that, id lose my mind too if I had to browse this thread every day
>>98568330Do any of the current dreds work as antitank? My LGS has a redemptor in stock.
>>98568286Because of zoomers and shitposters such as yourself. Just wait for page 9 and stop being such a faggot
>>98568335Yup exactly. This video >>98562362
>>98568323>>98568329>boomer melty
>>98568337will have to think of a faction that hasnt been ritual post'd to death yet
>>98568340Yeah, got meself in the habit of browsing during work and I can't stop. Work is just busy enough that I can't hobby, but I can check a thread and reply occasionally. Oopsie have to be careful saying this shit since last time I posted about it I copped a 3 day ban from all boards for "troll post"
>>98568353Been on 4chan longer than /tg/ has existedKeep seething that your lie holds no ground, subhuman wannabe janny
>>98568324Me too! Let's become ritual posters together.
>>98568357Let's see>Primaris are King!>Dark Eldar refresh soon, I can feel it!>I like orks :D>Who here GSC and who here JUST>Claiming this thread for Chaos IdolsI can't think of any others so there seems to be plenty of available options.
James! There's only one way to save 40k! Release the Hrud!
>>98568360I'm sure you have, but you're still wrong
>>98568367hmm we dont have a nids one and im planning on starting an army soon
>>98568367You forgot the tau and custards coomposting
>>98568222>>98568230>Just over 1 minute apart
>>98568383You're right.>Colossal Custodes Knockers!What phrase do the blueberries usually use? I can't remember. Also, haven't seen this one in a while, but:>Awoo with me, sisters!
>>98568356STILL not dodging the low IQ allegations
>>98568390>What phrase do the blueberries usually use?I don't think there's a phrase really associated with that one, but they keep posting the same like 3 to 5 images. Counts as a ritual to me
The only thing GEQ can do to cope with SM's stat bloat is to get cheaper.20 guardsmen for 100 pts?
>>98568389meds
>>98568378Poorly paint a gaunt and try and Photoshop it into an image each thread without getting caught
>>98568350a redemptor is fine, you can probably magnetize the gun pretty easily so you've got a good mix of dakka or plasma. the fist is strong too.
>>98568389Was just a question, Australians usually dont melty like that
>>98568415I'm not gonna be able to fit my fucking Drukhari army into my box
>>98568415its more likely that marines go up. if GEQs got cheaper we'd have tournaments taking way too long.
We're probably not getting a new terminator lord anytime soon, are we?
>>98568441They already said marines are going up in price. Orks are confirmed going up as well. They're probably trying to keep them balanced with the current codecies. Or at least GW balanced
Big lascannon doesn't want you to know this, but autocannons are going to become s10 to still be 2x base marine toughnessInvest in autocannons today
>>98568395>STILL seething and balding
>>98568286I’m not that anon. I did post a kneel after the proof was posted.https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98559565/#98560559Seriously though I think more images should be allowed on /tg/ but then again I can see spastics even now deliberately spamming images to deny other anons image posting.
>>98568462>STILL 80 IQ
>>98568455I am only going to buy discounted units from launch boxes at this rate
>Marines are getting even stronger! This means they'll be going up in points to be more fair, which makes them easier than ever to collect for those of you valued customers just starting Warhammer™, as now you need fewer models to dip your toes into this amazing World of Grimdark™!>one year later>Great news! The Munitorum™ Chapter Approved™ ForgeTheNarrative™ Wonderfully Grimdark™ Warhammer Balance Dataslate has just decreased points costs for a lot of units, now you can fit even more into your army than before!GrimDark, even
Lore wise, nids should be a pretty conversion/kitbash friendly army but I have never seen anyone do anything aside from people using the AOS archaon as a cthulu thing for nids.
>>98568475Stop noticing!
Predictions for the MFMOrks nerfed. Dark Angels nerfed.Raven Guard buffed.SoB buffed.Agents buffed.Guard slightly buffed.Eldar transports reduced cost.I think detachment DP cost and detachment disposition access are two good balance valves for them to manipulate now instead of just points costs. Like there are a few detachment combos that are obviously very strong that are currently dominating (forgefathers+librarius was insane for a while which they nerfed, and now it's the ork combo). Another neat thing is they don't have to adjust DP necessarily, they also have the mutually exclusive keyword system, like Champions of Faith and Sacred Champions both being keyworded so they can't be taken together.And if you want to buff a faction or a specific detachment, but you don't want to touch their points or their DP or their keywords, you can even just slot in a different disposition for a certain detachment that just synergises better or worse. They did this once already in the previous MFM update where they tightened the number of detachments that had access to Purge.
>>98568481>but I have never seen anyone do anythingLook harder
>>98568475Ignore that the price increases mean 1000 points will cost you more despite the points increase anon
Just assembled my first models ever. It was a lot harder than I thought it would be. Took me 5 hours to assemble 4 Khorne Cultists, and I fucked up the angles of the limbs on a couple of 'em. I can see the appeal though, there's something soothing about shaving off the little hanging pieces of plastic and smoothing it all out. I probably shouldn't have done it in bed though, I'm gonna be sleeping in resin shavings tonight. Any tips for minimizing the amount of nubbins that come off of the mold sheets? I used regular ass scissors and I feel like that was wrong.
>>98568456Mum says we're not allowed either because we've already got bolter, flamer and melta
I asked the PDF share thread but they're fucking useless as usual, anyone here happen to have a scan of this little booklet from the Shadow Throne boxed set?
>>98568505>I used regular ass scissorsUsing sprue cutters would be a good improvement. But don't buy GW's modeling tools, as a general rule.
>>98568505>resin shavingsPlastic, anon. Resin in your bed would actually be a health hazard, you're not supposed to get that shit inside you, but it's a good thing khorne jackals are plastic.>regular ass scissorsYeah you'll damage bitz that way. You want something super sharp like a knoife or cutters, anything blunt will twist the pieces around more as you try to cut and possibly damage them
Man I remember when people were coping that rhinos and tacticals would live through this edition when they saw some random pic of them on warhammer academy lol Lmao. Get fucked. Primaris are kings.
>>98568455people did the math orks up 15-20%.I did my newly built 1475pts, in the new codex it is 1625. My guess is GW is targeting 15-25% deciding on the quality of the army. Pulling 200-250pts out of a current 2k list should help with map balance, and play time. And even if hordes stay mostly the same, they will have less enemies to shoot still. So still some time savings.
>>98568505Jesus, this reads like a horror story
>>98568513>Using sprue cutters would be a good improvement>*googles what "sprue cutters" are*oh, is that what those are/are for? some came in the cheap modeling supplies kit I got, I probably should have tried them. thanks. I'm gonna do the other 3 models tomorrow so hopefully they turn out better.
>>98568530thanks for the tups, I used an exacto knife for the second 2 but it took forever to saw through the plastic and the blade kept slipping out and I cut myself a couple times (not deep).>>98568542am tarded ples understand
>>98568505Fuck bro.ok buy some cheap godhand nippers, a cheap set of files, and a tamiya hobby knife. O and tamiya thin plastic cement. The only thing besides models you buy from GW is primer. Unless you can find monument hobbies primer then thats better. Besides that buy Army Painter, Vallejo, or monument paints. Yes this shit all adds up. But the tools and paints last for fucking ever so its really really worth the investment.
>>98568546Yeah, it's all a learning experience but knives will do that. You'll notice different sizes of sprue connections, James loves to do these dicky little ones onto spindly details, that's where you carefully use a knife. Thicker connections really should be done with cutters
>>98568551>Fuck bro.>ok buy some cheap godhand nippers, a cheap set of files, and a tamiya hobby knife. O and tamiya thin plastic cement.>The only thing besides models you buy from GW is primer. Unless you can find monument hobbies primer then thats better. Besides that buy Army Painter, Vallejo, or monument paints.>Yes this shit all adds up. But the tools and paints last for fucking ever so its really really worth the investment.I got all that stuff except plastic cement, but my paints are apple barrel brand. what's the plastic cement for?
>>98568557>You'll notice different sizes of sprue connections, James loves to do these dicky little ones onto spindly details, that's where you carefully use a knifeyeah they had one connected to one of the little skulls on a belt piece for some fuckall reason and it snapped off while I was extracting it. luckily I was able to glue it back on perfectly, it's probably the biggest W I had in the 5 hours I did it today.
>>98568560Plastic cement melts and fuses plastic together. Helps with gaps too. Just be careful not to smudge it if you accidentally spill it anywhere.
>>98568567interdasting, thanks for the hot tip. because of how I fucked up some of the orientation of some of the limbs there are some noticeable gaps.
>>98568546>am tarded ples understandI mean that much is obvious with the scissors. But why in bed? Do you not have any flat surfaces in your house?
>>98568571It might be more appropriate to call the gaps plastic cement helps with "seamlines." Bigger gaps you'll want greenstuff or some other hobby putty for.And on the note of seamlines do be mindful of how much cement you put down. I have multiple times gone retard mode, put down too much cement, and squelched some out while pressing two parts together. Apparently I never learned that lesson when I was assembling shit with gorilla glue.
>>98568577>But why in bed?I do pretty much everything in bed unless it's absolutely required that I get out of bed to do it. In a couple hours, I'll be eating dinner in bed. I posting this from bed right now.
>>98568584>Apparently I never learned that lesson when I was assembling shit with gorilla glue.I'm glad I'm not the only retard that tried that
>>98568589How fat are you.
>>98568594less than you would think, because I'm forced to work a job and run errands and do other things that keep me from my bed, where I want to be
>>98568589I would STRONGLY recommend working from some kind of desk in future.
>>98568490When is it actually meant to come outAlso do GW changes stats in balance dataslates or just points costs?
>>98568538I noticed your shitpost got no attention so I felt badBut they didn't get rid of rhinos, they're explicitly still being used by primaries, nogames-kun
>>9856849011th sucks man
>>98568603I will take that good advice under consideration and immediately disregard it. I have a little setup brewing for when I paint, though. I'm not that crazy.
>>98568589>I'll be eating dinner in bedBad for your digestion btw. Do you not have a comfy chair in your place?
>>98568623>Bad for your digestion btw. that's an urban myth>Do you not have a comfy chair in your place?I have a steel folding chair
>>98568541I am an outsider, but I hear the fluff say Orks are too many. An almost numberless tide, and all of them disgustingly tough and strong.But is mankind more numerous? Hives are literally uncountable.Are Guardsmen more numerous than Orks on the tabletop??
>>98568626>I have a steel folding chairNta, that is comfy. My gaming chair is wood.
>>98568619Why?
>>98568614Dont need to be mad at the truth
>>98568626It's not an urban myth, I mean it's probably not as bad as your mummy tried to tell you but it still causes problems. I personally feel much better when sitting in a proper chair to eat, less stomach gurgling, no risk of heartburn. Just buy a semi-nice cosy chairhttps://www.everydayhealth.com/digestive-health/why-you-shouldnt-lie-down-right-after-eating/
>>98568634It's just more 10th. I'm tired of this gamey tournament dominated shit. I want >>98567646
>>98568637It's not the truth though?The rhino is still usable with these firstborn squattings
>>98568600Oof real
>>98568632it's hard on my ass and back, it's just easier to eat off a baking tray in bed>>98568638you're probably right but I'm just gonna keep eating in bed because it's comfy and convenient>>98568645real 1's know
>>98567646awww man, this made me really sad. jesus
>>98568640>This game is too gamey>This movie is too cinematic >This music is too musical
I need some bread for my sanga
>>98568665Women are judging you for doing everything in bed and only having a steel fucken folding chair as your other furniture btw. You are bringing wamen home, right?>>98568679Dw, it certainly had its flaws. There was a lot of finnickiness and arguments over what was under blast/flame templates or not, what vehicle facing was being hit... If you were playing pickup games with any random asshole, rather than your buds who'd be cool and not get into such disagreements it could get frustrating. When we have holograph tech down pat we can bring back templates that you can just illuminate on the table and have it dead clear who's in and out
>>98568687The wargaming hobby is not supposed to feel like Hearthstone with checkers.
>>98568690>You are bringing wamen home, right?Usually only once, which is fine by me, because I'm sick of them as soon as I coom.
>>98568690>There was a lot of finnickiness and arguments over what was under blast/flame templates or not, what vehicle facing was being hitThe same dickheads who would do this find ways to be annoying in modern editions too. Never change soulful rules to cater to soulless people. Just play with cool people.
>>98568690>There was a lot of finnickiness and arguments over what was under blast/flame templates or not, Did 4th drop the "Chance of being hit" rule that 3rd had for bases partially under the blast templates? Where if a base was only partially under the template you roll a die and on a 4+ they'd be hit. Felt it was a good rule to reduce arguments and just say "roll the die" They brought it back for Old World, though I still don't think it should apply to flame templates.
>>98568640have you ever had to deal with a sperg trying to cheat on blast / flamer templates? have you ever had to deal with a busted codex dropping and knowing that there was nothing you could do about it for an entire edition?
>>98568690>When we have holograph tech down pat we can bring back templates that you can just illuminate on the table and have it dead clear who's in and outWe'll just be accurately simulating the entire battlefield in some form of video game version before we get holograms down, and at that point we won't need chance for hits it'll be accurately simulated based on the mind and soul of the marine
>>98568700Just checked the 4th rulebook and it still has the chance of being hit rule.I guess a lot of people forget about it or just never fully read it.Page 30 of the 4th ed Core Rulebook, in the Blast Weapon section.
>>98568700>Did 4th drop the "Chance of being hit" rule that 3rd had for bases partially under the blast templates? Where if a base was only partially under the template you roll a die and on a 4+ they'd be hit.No it still used that same rule.>>98568701>have you ever had to deal with a sperg trying to cheat on blast / flamer templates?Just Don't Play With Those Faggots. Don't know why this is such an issue for people to understand.>have you ever had to deal with a busted codex dropping and knowing that there was nothing you could do about it for an entire edition?Better a busted codex in a soulful edition than an edition not worth playing at all. I played with friends who agreed not to take broken shit, it's just that fucking simple.
>>98568699Fair and valid. Similarly though if you have a cool club of tabletop peeps, just pester them about playing an older edition.>>98568708Nah, there's full on hologram dinosaur shows going on and shit. We'll have a handy dandy little hologram device before a fully simulated battlefield, they've already tried this type of shit before with laser markers
>>98568726>Similarly though if you have a cool club of tabletop peeps, just pester them about playing an older edition.Truth
>>98568475I love how you captured the obnoxious millennial buzzword corpo advertising slop speak they do where they even ruined the term grimdark by making it feel like a "hello fellow kids how do you do" thing.
>>98568739What is blud talking about, my little newgen :skull: :wiltedrose:
>>98568589FAT CUNT
We might be due for a new bread, ratfag needs to get his ritual post in early this time
>>98568752I'm 5'10" 210, that's not even fat by American standards
>>98568759NTA but you are only two inches taller than me but 60 pounds heavier, you are a fat fuck.
>>98568766pipe down twink
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>>98568759What a unit, im in awe
>>98568766Yeah you're anorexic my dude. 100kg is perfectly fine ballpark for an adult with a healthy amount of muscle and fat.Also have we no image posted enough to satiate Mr Throod Whinger?
>>98568767Lol nigger I can fold your ass, 150 lbs of lean muscle is all time MMA champion weight, you are a fat fucking cow
>>98568782So you think bed anon has a healthy amount of muscle? Maybe in his jaws lmao.
>>98568782You are a coping fatty if you think 150 is "anorexic"
>>98568759I'm 6'0, ~250 and I'm fatSorry bro, but you're fat too
>>98568795I keep having to convert your hamburgers per baseball field measurements to real measurements but yes, under 70 kilos at around 1.8m tall is stick skinny. I had a mate like that and I could see every bone in his joints, he had no muscle mass
>>98568148I dont mind the overall aesthetic, I just dont like how uniform it all is there is very little variety in the armor. What I hate the most is how specialized everything for primaris is, forcing you to buy multiple squads of baseline infantry just to keep up with GW's schizophrenic rules updates.
>>98566209Every time I see that I keep on wondering if they used coms or if Ein loudly screamed on his machine's speakers everywhere.
