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space wolves are gay
>Primaris are King!>Dark Eldar refresh soon, I can feel it!>I like orks :D>Who here GSC and who here JUST>Claiming this thread for Chaos Idols>Colossal Custodes Knockers!>Awoo with me, sisters!>big bouncing banshee butts>James! There's only one way to save 40k! Release the Hrud!
>>98573863>TQi dont play marines so im not sure desu, what are some of the gayest xenos models? i own a male benefictus
Hello everyone,I saw that there was a rules update. About 2 years ago a friend gifted me a combat patrol for my birthday since I had expressed interest and regrettably I still haven’t been able to get around to completing it or getting into tabletop as much as I wanted.I saw a lot of units are getting moved into legacy and was wondering if anything in the box I have is going to be staying relevant or if it’s all being rotated. I apologize for my lack of research.I believe the contents are as follows1x Primaris Librarian3x Aggressors5x Incursors (can alternatively be built as Infiltrators)5x Intercessors1x Impulsor
>>98573872>gave up>still going>still going>gave up >still going>infrequently posts>infrequently posts>infrequently posts>not a ritualpostI can’t help but notice the coomer ones are dying down. is it all just the same guy, or is the horny just not enough comparedto army autism?
>>98573879it's completely fine.
>>98573863>TQHis name is Bakusho Mondai and he is inspired by Razor "Hard Gay" Ramon. But he has nothing to do with 40k
I like orks :D
I'm totally new to this, so bear with me. My painting skills are hot ass, so I figured I'd learn on something cheap. I then realized that most of the "official" models cost a kidney. Will people and my LGS try to murder me if I play with 3D printed models instead?
>>98573856Hey wait a second. Aside from one set of small walls, it doesn't even look like you can buy the Sector Imperialis ruins anymore. What the fuck is it with nuGW and its crazy terrain turnover rates?
>>98573904I honestly don’t get it. much of the justification behind neglecting certain ranges and high prices is because of how much mold injections cost to create, but then they make these massive fuck off sprues for terrain they’ll shove in a box and never again. what is the economic reason for this?
>>98573863>TQpinup male dragon goblin from KDM probably. Either that or the Ciel Phantomhive statuette. I was tempted to get the Eiden statue with his cock out or the Vlad-kun DX by HOTVENUS but I'm instead gonna pray they eventually do an Aster statuette or ZeroERA comes out, blows up and gets figs.However, one day I will get a Lionel Johnson because I think he's cool as hell and when that day comes he will be unequivocally the gayest model I own in perpetuity.
>>98573863>TQI own some space wolves, and a blood angels scout getting penetrated from behind.
>>98573880The army posters are here to actually talk about the game and hobby and just happen to also have a ritual post. The coomer ritual posters are just here for that coomer post and baiting others to post similar content.
>>98573902People? No.Watch out for the ratmen though
>>98573915Terrain probably doesn't actually require the super expensive kinds of molds because it doesn't have a lot of undercuts or as many gates. They might also be able to get away with using a slightly cheaper grade of plastic because it doesn't have to hold as sharp or fine of details as the models. But if that is the case, they probably have limited machines that they can dedicate to terrain at a time and every time they add a new one they have to remove the molds of an old one and put it in storage. Essentially, you can assume they have something like 16 grade-a injection molding lines and maybe four grade-b injection molding lines on the factory floor active at a time.
>>98573902Some LGS are pro-printing, some are very anti-printing. GW branded stores (the ones that say "Warhammer" on the wall outside) will not let you play anything but official GW plastic.Just go in and ask them before doing it if they aren't clear with a sign stating their policy (and aren't a GW store).If they sell printing supplies, they're probably fine with printed minis.>learn on something cheapAcrylic paints are able to be stripped by soaking in rubbing alcohol and then scrubbing off with a toothbrush. It doesn't damage the polystyrene model at all.Buy a cheap unit in whatever army you're interested in, and build skill on them. If you fucked up too bad, just soak in alcohol and scrub it off, then paint it again with the knowledge you gained.The only person who has to see your mistakes is you.
I have a plastic drybrush pallet, one of those textured bits of plastic from greenworld or w/eShould this thing be washed cleaned between each use or is it fine to leave the paint on it?
>>98573920You don’t own a single Warhammer related product
>>98573932See, I'd buy that as an argument if the old ruins, bastions, and Fortress of Redemption weren't around forever. The Sector Imperialis range was only around for something like three years.
>>98573945The only concern I'd have above leaving it with paint crusted over on it is inadvertently picking up flecks of old paint with fresh paint and having that get stuck onto models.
>>98573948That could very easily be related to stock that they were holding on to for many years and not necessarily ongoing production.
>>98573932From memory, terrain kits are generally not made in the UK.
Anyone used 3d printed terrain? How durable is it?
>>98573946What franchise are these guys from?
>>98573902I mean it would sorta ruin my immersion if they look like scat but I would get over it.
>>98573972That's clearly star wars.
I think my biggest issue with votann are their helmets. Or lack there of. The zerkers at the very least could have gotten something intimidating looking.
>>98573902If you don't care what the mini is, GW does a free model every month you could grab and use as practice.
>>98573935and if you have any old metal minis, you can dunk them straight in a small jar of solvent like acetone and strip them bare of paint in minutes. Just don't do it to plastic or resin.
>>98573982Berserks are the second worst model in the votann range. Trying to do Slayers in space but also not actually doing it properly. I wish they'd cull most of the viking/scandi imagery from the Votann and get rid of the Slayers. Would improve them SO MUCH
>>98573946This post amuses me.>TQ is about model ownership>people talking about the models they own>"you don't even own any models!">not pictured: anon's models
>>98573902>My painting skills are hot ass, so I figured I'd learn on something cheap.GW stores have a free mini they rotate each month, go into the store and ask for it and use that for painting practice. I grab one every time i got to get paints. They're useful for practice because who cares if you fuck it up when it was free.
>>98574001NTA but I'd be more inclined to make paint trips to the warhammer store if they switched to dropper bottles>make a big show about "we're making changes to the packaging of our paints!">basically just replacing "CITADEL" with "WARHAMMER" on the label of the same shitty pots
>>98573863>TQI have this one defeated space wolf who is groveling on the ground. Probably that one.
>>98574012the washes are too good to give up even if the pots suck
>>98573863>TQBeast of Nurgle>>98573945Just spray primer over it, it’ll take you years to put enough layers on it to clog any detail.
>>98574017I've been meaning to try mixing contrasts with medium/flow improver as a wash, but I'm personally an acrylic wash hater.
>>98574022Youre saying I should spray primer on it after every use? That seems a bit excessive compared to just a quick wash and scrub after each painting seshion.
>>98574001>ork mini out within 30 minutes of the store openingStill annoyed about that.
>>98574001I'll have to remember that, but I think last time I went in they didn't have any
>>98573945use 70% isopropyl alcohol to clean off acrylic paints.
>>98574037>>98574038I can't get my hands on these things ever because fucking nolifers go in and clear the store out within 2 days.
>limited For me this word has become like >stripes
>>98573999because if he posted his models he'd get banned for evasion
>>98574053
dark mechanicum soon
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98574064>>98574053Nobody else thinks this is funny except you, you’re and embarrassment to your bloodline
>>98573879That's all totally fine. and even pretty good stuff rules wise. The primaris stuff is not going to legends any time soon, it took 20 years for some of the recent stuff to be moved so really don't worry. you can use legends stuff any time your opponent says sure anyway, and even the older stuff is often used as proxies for the new stuff so your model can find uses.there is an exception, which is suppressors, but those were weird and unpopular anyway. and even they are officially proxies for incursors.
Wait a minute, you are 2 hours too early for your melty
>>98574077not him but I think its pretty funny>get dog walked, wolfie.
>>98574089this wolfbreaks my wolfheart...
>>98574089everyone focuses on the limited part, but damn this is a gangster ass image.
>>98574089is he ok?
>LIMITED
Post OG models that still mog modern sculpts.> Dark Reapers haven't been done right since 3e
>>98573880You forgot my favourite ritualpost WHERE ARE THE MODELS YOU DAYDREAMING FAILURE
>>98574073Wish granted. Iron Warriors armies get Purterabo and 3 Dark Mech units to include that are slightly better copies of forge/maulerfiends and a not-sorcerer HQ unit. They also get a new "Dark Mechanicum" detachment that costs 2 points, so you can correctly say you are playing a Dark Mech army.
>>98574113This is probably better than what we'll actually get
>>98573898XD XD?
>>98574089>LIMITED
>>98574109
>>98574100eh, he only got the first heart. he’ll walk it off.
>>98574111I still reference it sometimes. the true epitome of larping nomodels.
>>98574130FB was really fuckin retarded for making those pink and blue horrors. I guess the screamers were fine but even then the chariot of tzeentch and flamers were also fucking tasteless.
>>98574111I reference it once in a blue moon on /tesg/
>death guard CP out of stock>plague marines out of stockWhat is happening with Geedugs
>>98574111To be fair, he did say maybe.
dont call it that.
my entire experience assembling and painting 40k figurines for the past 3 dayshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqwfaT2NFBwI might be too retarded for this hobby
Anon's, I need help deciding on a 3rd army. I like playing with smaller point sized so I have a Storm Lords/ White Scars army on the go that are all about bikes, flying speeders, etc. I have a Crimson Fist army on the go with a bunch of gravis and termies for a heavy force, and plans to get a land raider because my fucking predator and vindicator are getting put behind the woodshed. But I want some advice on what a fun all rounder army could be, and would appreciate some recommendations on some chapters to pick from. I was leaning towards MM at the moment. Thanks anon's.
>>98574154Fine. Now how often do you CP reroll to try get something more to your taste when playing?Also is the T'au Combat Patrol 'worth it' or is the discount too shallow for the useability of the models in it.
>>98574157you're always your toughest critic, but also post model and we can help tell you what you need to do to improve.
>>98573863
>>98574151They're clearly going to replace them with the new plaguemaris marines.
Does anyone have a link to the 40k Ultimate Guide, or can I find it in the pre-10th edition torrent?
>>98574161trust your instincts, and go marines malevolent.
>>98574168>he's now posting gay art I give up. I cannot fix the reputation of what he has done to this chapter.
>>98574157Thin your paints.
>>98574158Those the old stealth suits? Nice. The classic Tau stuff is pretty neat.
>>98574173You really can just do anything with them can't you?
>>98574158Why was it so fucking hard for them to just reuse this design for the refresh. The last two updates for the kinder eggs have been awful. Single handedly drove me away from wanting to fuck with the big futa cocked army.
I have an idea that'll get me hired by GW: Every faction has space marines, specifically the intercessors. You just need 2 things1)Buy space marine models2)Buy upgrade sprue that adds the head of another faction (each faction head pack sold separatedly btw)This way, you can glue an ork head on a marine and you got space marine ork, or glue a tyranid head and you got space marine tyranid, or glue a genestealer for the cults, or glue an eldar head/helmet for space marine elf. >What about chaosYou get the option to play with the traitor legions wearing their pre-heresy colors, with the added bonus they are not chaos tainted either so you can have white and blue World eaters or red 1000sons or EC without the goon or clean Death Guard.Bonus, you get a nurgling head for a space marine so you can imagine at least 20 of the goobers piloting astartes armor, or a daemonette with space marine armor and so on.
>>98574170This is entirely possible considering they are actually the shortest Marine subline.
>>98574167no bully
>>98574161> White ScarsVery based anon. I don't play Marines otherwise though so cannot offer suggestions, although MM put up a good showing in the Watchers of the Throne series and even bodied some Custodes.
>>98574171epub formatfor your pleasurehttps://gofile.io/d/lBi4DhMh
>>98574176I did. I may have thinned them too much, nothing was really sticking even though I used a primer first.
>>98574191>another victim of white primer+contrast slopAlso put clothes on you animal.
>>98574089why does he have a paw print on top of his dickwhat space wolf armorer though that was a good idea
>>98574197no don't listen to anon, anonpost tummy
>>98574191>323x407We can't give much feedback on a handful of pixels, man
>>98574197>wearing clothes in your houseyou're lucky I'm wearing even shorts
>>98574206well nigga that's what my fuckin' latptop resolution is, I dragged my bedside lamp into bed just to get it that well-lit
>>98574109I will admit I want to see this remade with the newest patriarch.
>>98574215This would be a perfect commemorative model. Preferably not through WH+.
>>98574210>taking a photo with yourself exposed If this general turns into fetish content then I am actually just leaving.
>>98574215>bring me neophytes*tendies
>>98574191>>98574195What paints are you using? Why are you naked?
>>98574221I don't think I can get doxxed just from my gut-print, unless the NSA has some new happy-trail-tracking technology I'm not aware of.
>>98574227>What paints are you using? apple barrel>Why are you naked?I'm not, I'm wearing running shorts
>>98574215SoVL THRONE. Been looking through some of the older sculpts and I can see why people fell in love with the game back then. They were just made by dudes thinking what was cool and fun.
>bullying a new paintershame on you all
>>98574233>apple barrelYou can't be serious.
>>98574247does it really matter? this thread told me not to but GW paints so I didn't. can I not paint well with apple barrel paints?
>>98574247Diff strokes for diff folks I reckon
>>98574245Newbie's still better than you
>>98574251You can... technically. But that's cheap dollar store paint. It's not made for mini painting & needs more thinning to be viable. Even then the finish & application are not good. It's fine for terrain but no the minis themselves. You should find a small hobby store that sells paints like vallejo or ak instead. Getting only the paints you absolutely want/need.
>>98574257thats probably not true but theres no need to bully him
>>98574213based bed poster, I wish I could live like you. That said overpainting the red over everything is fine, now you'll just need to go pick out the lesser details over the armour like the gold trim and the rubber joints to break up the red and it'll look much better
>This dude slaps your dusty girlfriends ass what do you do?
>>98574233what do those paints taste like?
>>98574191needs a shade, a shade would really help it out.
>>98574251Idk what retard told you not to buy GW paints.Expensive with shit lids? Yes, but majority of them are good and as a newbie having the most reference paint palette is very useful.I swear to god there is like 5 of us here who actually hobby.
>>98574261His mini is still better painted than your hell blasters.
>>98574213oh right its the fat cunt again
Still trying to pick up the pieces after the Marine sunset. Wondering if I should try playing with chaos rules for kicks. If I did, would straight csm be better or thousand sons? You can't take havocs and raptors and shit with them right?
>>98574266Call him a pedophile.
>>98574278Also can someone explain the difference between warp talons and raptors in loyalist terms.
>>98574233I've used apple barrel paints to paint some models before.Its possible, but you need a lot of layers, since they usually have poor pigment densities and terrible coverage. some of them work okay though... they can work, but are not ideal. I prefer gw paints despite what the general says, But I have my share of AK and vallejo paints too.
>>98574259>needs more thinning to be viable. noted>Even then the finish & application are not good.explain>>98574265>based bed poster, I wish I could live like you.don't let your memes be dreams>>98574265>That said overpainting the red over everything is fine, now you'll just need to go pick out the lesser details over the armour like the gold trim and the rubber joints to break up the red and it'll look much betterthank you for the genuine advice>>98574271there's a shade right there, it's red>>98574273>Idk what retard told you not to buy GW paints.literally everyone in the thread, like a dozen different anons unanimously declared that GW paints are overpriced trash>>98574276oh right it's the 140 lb skelly twink manlet again, get your bussy blown out recently?
>>98574274jeez ive never been accused of being decalfag before
>>98574287duly noted, thanks
>>98574288thats an australian dude who used to work in the army (or still does), it definitely aint you
>>98574288Craft paints thicker. Mini paints thinner. Latter made for smooth finish on minis.
>>98574288I meant a shade like Carroburg crimson to give the red shadows.
>>98574288>unanimously declared that GW paints are overpriced trashI mean they are, but they're still better than what you got instead
>>98574295I never claimed it was, it was just an example of someone who's not 5'6" 130 lbs>>98574296I can just thin them with water though, right? I was having trouble getting the right consistency, I've never painted anything before
>>98574303yeah thin with water to the consistency of milk.
>>98574194Thanks, but do you happen to have it in PDF?
>>98574299I'll try mixing a different shade of red once I go back over tomorrow it with the advice I get from this thread>>98574301well I'm trying to stay on a budget so I went with what I could afford>>98574305yeah I think I went a little far thinning it
>>98574303You can but actual acrylic thinner is better.
>>98574311no its not a different shade of color, its a specific type of paint that is much thinner. https://paint.warhammer.com/videos/shade-paints/
>>98574306nope
>>98574311>>98574317Now I'm sad they renamed washes to shades. I want to see what would have happened if you told this guy his mini needed a wash.
>>98574312I got some of that but it didn't mix well, chatGPT told me to just use water>>98574317ok good to know
>>98574288Hobby specific paints flow from your brush better and dry to a smoother finish than regular acrylics. They typically have a higher concentration of pigments due to being thin. I have a set of artist grade acrylics and those are barely serviceable compared to my AK gen 3 paints. You really don't need many paints at all. Red, blue, yellow, green, magenta/purple, brown, black, white. You can make most any other color with those paints using some color theory. Get those in a good miniature paint brand to start off with and get painting. Pick up other colors if you find yourself mixing a particular color/shade a lot, or make things easier (flesh color for example), or contrast stuff for slopchop painting.
>>98574326>chatgptAnon we're trying to help you but you're being stupid on purpose.
>>98574325I'd put them in the washing machine
>>98574288The advice of "don't buy GW" was likely given under an assumption you would seek out another kind of miniature paint like Scale 75 or AK. Now on a strictly technical level you can use literally any paint you want, even house paint if you want it may just have strange side effects and people's advice may not be applicable.Shade paints for what its worth are usually very diluted paints that flow heavily and are mostly used to have it flow from the centre of a panel or section and settle in the recesses before the water evaporates to help create a sense of depth usually because it masks over the underlying paint colour without overwriting it causing a gradient of shading to mimic light and shadows.
hows your collage entry coming along, /40kg/?
>>98574332Finished and submitted the other day.
>>98574327well I already got these so these is what I'm usin', thanks anyway though>>98574328bold of you to assume it's on purpose>>98574331ok I just ordered some Vallejo black wash, thanks
Also, has anyone ever seen a mini painted with oil paints? I kinda hope that exists and I wanna see it
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>9857431295% of hobbiest use water. you're giving advice way above this guys level and abilities (he mentioned he's looking to save money, acrylic thinner is a luxury)
>>98574349>acrylic thinner is a luxuryIt's less than 20 bucks for a tall thin bottle from AK. You'll use small drops at a time. That's nothing.
>>98574349I actually do have acrylic thinner though, I picked it up when I got the apple barrel paints (it was on sale). does it really work better than water? do I use it the same way? it doesn't seem to mix as well
>>98574332Just finished taking pics of him, how does he look lads?
>>98574338Surprised you didn't pain the shoota blue. Cool job.
>>98573879this is actually a good box to start an army with.Also ya everything is safe. They got rid of models they told us 9 years ago they were getting rid of.
>>98574354I like the highlights on the coat, but the eyes are kinda fucked and the decal expanding over the shoulder pad is ruining my immersion. 7/10.
>>98574353It's mostly water with a tiny bit of 2-Butoxyethanol.
How I sleep at night knowing I can just kitbash a tactical squad into any unit I want with $2 worth of 3D printed bits and never have to buy a primaris
Since bladeguard lieutenants are getting squated how are you going to use them?
>>98574343Yes, and I have pics on my phone but I don't wana phone post so just trust. Just look it up on youtube. Lots of guys use them.>>98574353You're just going to have to find a good ratio between water and thinner yourself. Do some tests. Acrylic thinner/medium typically has binders and resins in it to help preserve the ability of the paint to stick and harden. Sometimes they have flow improvers or drying retarders too but IDK what your apple stuff is. If I have to thin something a bit I just use water. If I need it thinner I use medium/thinner along with water.
If Gork is brutal yet cunning and Mork is cunning yet brutal when fighting each other, would Gork and Mork fighting something else together be brutal and cunning? Or just plain brutal?
>>98574391Brunning & cutal.
>>98574371good to know>>98574381>If I have to thin something a bit I just use water. If I need it thinner I use medium/thinner along with water.so water for regular thinning, thinner for extreme thinning?
>>98574391Well you see when they work together they're three times as brutal and three times as cunning
>>98574027Not every use, but when you feel like there’s too much paint buildup. You can also spray matte varnish on it.
>>98574192>>98574173Fuck it, I'll do MM, plus the colours clash well with my other dudes. I'll hold off on new stuff though until the new sculpts come out with varied armour. Thanks anon's, now I just gotta get me some decals of the chapter.
>>98574430you should use this opportunity to practise your freehanding
>>98574157You can just focus on coloring in the lines and abandon complex highlighting like you see YouTubers do.You can thin your paints.But the biggest tip I can give you is that you almost certainly have too much paint on your brush. If you gotta mix colors fine so it, then rinse your brush to the wetness you want, and load up just a little bit of paint, then wipe most of it off on your hand.If you’re getting thick gloopy paint, obviously you need to thin, but you also have too much.If it’s spilling over onto the wrong part, obviously you need to work on your brush control, but you also have too much.Too much paint is the bane of every noobie.
>>98574437Freehanding black on yellow? I rather die.
There's literally nothing wrong with killing tau civilians.
>space marines effectively having to walk into the line of sight of an aimbot/autoshoot/wallhack combat robot laden with heavy weapons in order to engage these thingskyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
>>98574441good to know, that's the kind of protip I was looking for
What book do I need to read to get the Eldari?
>>98574375Can’t you just use the model as a regular lieutenant or are they taking the shield wargear option away from Lt’s in the new codex?
>>98574448Shazam Squad?
>>98574448Then there's literally nothing wrong with killing human civilians.
primarisharts and shareholders aside, can a proper total war 40k game be made? I think that it can't on its own, but it could fit as a mission type for apocalypse tier battles in an otherwise standard rts game (see: DOW).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRxgI9rNnIY
>>98574465no because you see tau only have three tenths of a soulthis has been measured by imperial science
>>98574476that's true, they called it the Three-Tenths Compromise
>>98574454is it just me or do tau battlesuits feel...different? nownothings changed about the crisis suits, its still the same design as 3rd other than it being a better sculptbut when I look at a new vs old army, or new vs old art, they just feel WAY differentjust me? or is the oche carrying the look?
>>98574473you can make a proper total war 40k for sure.i don't know about a accurate 40k total war game. i don't think we're at the point of simulating battles with millions of guardsmen, orks and nids that isn't abstracted
>>98574473Well no, it couldn’t be made because the battlefield would have to be so contiguous and large you’d have to walk on it. They kinda do this with the Titan Size Titanicus game they play every year at Adepticon. But even with Apocalypse games they’re just on extra long tables you can reach to the middle of.
>>98574473Isn't one being made right now?
>>98574473>can a proper total war 40k game be made?if we stopped outsourcing everything to India, yes, so no
What's the lore explanation for the primaris versions of these irreplaceable relics (the black sword and armor of faith) looking so different? Are the new emperor's champions just not wearing the real article? How do you upsize an ancient barely understood relic?
>>98574213Why would the resolution of your laptop have anything to do with it? You have a modern phone right? They take pics at higher res, better quality than that. From what I can see though the colours just look flat. As another anon said you can get away with painting khorne just red all over, but you have to go back and add shading/highlighting/pick out trim and details in other colours to really make it pop
>>98574505For that matter, what sort of powerful relic sword is made out of an inch of plastic? That couldn’t cut anything, I mean come on.
Killing civilians regardless of race is always valid, 40k has no room for civvies, everybody should be a damn soldier send to the nearest warzone. No excuses
>>98574498OG art for them is frankly pretty wild whereas their kits as such have always been on the side of dinky and a little bit improperly rendered imosomeone on here said crisis refresh soon though which i'm thoroughly looking forward to even if all of mine are and will be proonted, i'd love some official models that are a little more up to snuff for them to play and contrast with
>>98574498To me the ochre does carry because it invokes the mostly desert-like homeworld of the T'au, and deserts + mechs is a winning aesthetic combo.
>>98574514Don't be disingenuous anon, look at how different the swords look, they don't even have remotely the same design. I'm wondering if there's any sort of lore for the reforging of these ancient and barely understood relic blades.
>>98574505The primaris EC always looks like he's doing a little skip-hop. He's just so happy to be out there carrying his favorite sword.
>>98574519god I miss this tau aestheticit makes me want to make a 3rd ed army of them
>>98574518Even the children?
>>98574528Can't blame him, his job sounds awesome.
i'm sure i join other people who've fallen into the same pit but i think this is where my vior'la tau are going in general theme of colorationmore white than red ofc
>>98574506>Why would the resolution of your laptop have anything to do with it? You have a modern phone right? They take pics at higher res, better quality than that. like most anons, my phone is rangeb&, and I can't connect it to my home internet for reasons I don't feel like explaining>From what I can see though the colours just look flat. As another anon said you can get away with painting khorne just red all over, but you have to go back and add shading/highlighting/pick out trim and details in other colours to really make it popthank you for the helpful advice
>>98574534Is your tau are going to commit mass rape too?
>>98574448auxilliary genocide whenI want my cool blue space army
>>98574543Why else would you go to war???
Does anyone have a pdf of the new orks codex? Just want to try and figure out what my new list is going to look like and even if I buy the Codex it's not getting here until weeks from now
>>98574550to stop Orks from getting nuclear weapons
>>98574505>>98574526>what's the lore reason for two different designers taking something in two different directionsMy god they're minis. They're not like a photo of something that actually existed, they're a purely fictional and up to the artist rendition. If you're not on tismbux already perhaps you should speak to your doctor
>>98574541Do you not have cables?
>>98574559Yeah but all the art depicts them differently too. I have this problem with a lot of primaris characters because they always mess with their relic wargear.
>>98574552It'snot out yet and even if it were points won't be released for another week.
>>98574564No. I use the Xfinity wifi hotspot down the street. Saves me $100+ bucks a month, but I have to pay per connected device.
>>98574473It wouldn't even be particularly hard. >The Tyrannids are basically just a monster-faction like Throgg>Tau are ranged powerhouses with good mobility like Wood Elves>Votann literally are just dorfs
>>98574541So your phone can't do 4chen or wifi, but has roaming data right? Just take a photo, save to whatever cloud storage (i use dropbox), then you can access the cloud on your laptop. It's 2026 there's 0 need to take low res photos
>>98574572I mean USB cables. To connect your phone to your laptop
>>98573863>tqI have some Conan the barbarian like stls that I plan to print for light skin over black primer painting practice.Does that count?
>>98574572Anon means a usb/lightning cable to connect phone to laptop and just share files that way.
>>98574572I might try this. Don’t care if it is poorfag looking but I gotta save money. Same reason I got a printer.
>>98574375>not even primaris are safe from squattingHow do marinepigs put up with this shit it's not even an old model and yet it's on the same copping block as 20 year old models
>>98574530They could fit in a leman russ better than the actual leman russ crew.
>>98574567>Yeah but all the art......drawn by different artists... You're really not picking up what I'm putting down huh? In any case, 40K wargear and relics come in all sorts of marks, designs.
>>98574550To kill?
>>98574391Ones :D and the other XD
>>98574375I'm glad I got the captain instead lmao. This is fucked up because I was so close to getting the lieutenant too.
>>98574595No, to rape!>>98574594Yeah but it's an ancient relic... How do relics come in different marks?
>>98574584>>98574586oh shit I do have those things, that didn't even occur to me. I'm getting ready to go do some other stuff in a minute, but when I post an update tomorrow after some more painting I'll just do that>>98574586literally $12/mo for internet access, if you don't have to do any high-speed gaming or mind it cutting out once in a while it's the way to go. 99% of my internet usage is 4chan and porn, so it suits my needs.
>>98574505because Primaris lore isn't real, it's literally just a scale change.
>>98574608meant for >>98574580>>98574576>save to whatever cloud storageI don't trust cloud storage, that's how they get you
>primemyass
>>98574519Honestly of all the battles suits, its the crisis suit that I like the most.>>98574529my current list is basically what would fit in two manta's holds during something like Taros. its all about an orbital assault.
Lmao is it true the new space marine codex kills off all the armor
>>98574625email it to yourself.
>>98574650wouldn't work, my phone internet at my house is shit in general
>>98574649Clearly you did not read the community post. Slow poke.
>>98574634>primemyass>paintmyass>washmyass>highlightmyass>basemyass>bushmyassall that just to make sure your ass is battle ready for +10VP
People paint their armies. Then they play with unpainted, or even more common bare MDF terrain like picrel. What the fuck? I see it everywhere. Is there a reason beyond laziness?
>>98574606>How do relics come in different marks?STCs are ancient machines that existed before the DAoT. One of a kind artefacts were made by different armourers. You're being really spergy about this, anon
>>98574332I think its done, I did a fuckin horrible job on the trophies part though
>>98574649Basically yea. There's no primaris equivalent for the whirlwind, razorback, or vindicator.
>>98574288Funni
>>98574649Yes and the only thing anyone is surprised about is that it took this long to actually commit them to legends.
>>98574547These are children
>>98574663Its up to the lgs to paint their terrain, and from my experience those people working there are always busy, too busy to paint shit
>>98574663It might be the stores and not theirs. That's the case at my FLGS (non GW), the terrain is owned by the store and they haven't painted it since they're more of a card store than a hobby store.The GW a few blocks away has nice terrain but doesn't allow people to play in-store as far as I know
>>98574678Actually they're demons and 900 years old so its fine that they look like 9 year olds and I want to fuck them because of that.
>>98574678No it's a drawing, one is a hag and I don't know about the other.
>>98574678no, they're literally drawings, and not even drawings of humans
>>98574681>>98574683Store owner with bare MDF terrain “Why don’t you game here? We never see you.”Well I have my own table at home and I can drink and say slurs.
>>98574693I'd prefer that too desu, not a fan of using slurs but id like a drink while playing a game
>>98574669Are those supposed to be Behemoth colored GSC?
>>98574699Calling your friend gay or retard during a game is part of the fun.
>>98574693Bare minimum terrain is a sign of a shit lgs.Also you can't play a wargame without saying nigger? Not being able to be socially normal in an lgs of all places is the most fucking embarrassing thing to admit to.
>>98574693>Well I have my own table at home and I can drink and say slurs.can I come over your house
>>98574701Yes
>>98574649Just the tread ones. Out of all of them I think the vindie was the only one seeing use in a few Blood Angels lists. Everyone just uses Gladiators or RepExes now unless they’re using classic armor for flavor, but if you’re doing that just play with legends units, you’re not competing at anything.
>>98574709>Also you can't play a wargame without saying nigger?Why should I have to?
>>98574717>being so socially inept even a lgs casts you out.That's fucking GRIM.
>>98574672Alpha Legion agent
>>98574724reddit is down the hall and to the left
>>98574678they're abhumans, no rights for muties
>>98574730Le nigger is basically reddit humour at this point. At least put effort into racism.
>>98574709That's not what he said at all
>>98574693>FLGS serves snacks, coffee and alcohol>also lets people bring in foodSucks to suck ig
>>98574734He admitted to it. Just zip up his pants when your done bro.
>>98574709No black people here but lots of face mask wearing obese trannies. I would love to play against Salamanders.
>>98574713Cool beans then, Behemothnids got the best colorskin, makes me sad Leviathan are the posterbugs.
>>98574733No, you're just a faggot. Go back.
>>98574738>No black people here but lots of face mask wearing obese trannies.that's a hell of a trade off
>>98574740Uh oh, Antisocial retard melty.
>>98574737We're not on twitter.
>>98574740He's right though. A huge part of being a chud (unironic) is that you guys are spewing such stale old slurs that people have heard so many millions of times before that people are used to it. Yet you're chuckling along like it's the first time anyone's used that word and what a great zinger it is... It's just lame, and if you're so unable to go a few hours without saying an epic gamer word that's really sad. You are a monkey who cannot control yourself, and would die to the gom jabbar
>>98574738There is very few black people in this hobby anon.
Did anon get kicked out of his lgs for being a piece of shit again?
Blood Angels successor chapter that's just called Bloods and their lore is that they're blood angels but black. And instead of black rage, it's called a nigga moment.
>>98574754No, a Twitter tard is just projecting his lack of social skills.
>>98574752Oh my god I was fucking kidding Jesus Christ. It’s called sarcasm. And I only game with old white straight men with families. But yes if they bring a bullshit list to the game I may say they’re being homosexual.
>>98574759That's fair, I retract my statement.Gay lists are gay.
>>98574709>>98574693You know you could always be nice and offer to slap some paint on it for them? Store owners are busy running a store funnily enough, and I'm sure would be grateful and offer paints if you sat in there one evening to do the terrain
>>98574759Oh boy do I have another classic 4chan pic for you then...
James! There's only one way to save 40k! Release the Hrud!
>>98574769I have other things to do.Plus the store i go to has excellent terrain.
>>98574739#NotMyBehemoth
>>98574642that is a prodigious number of skimmers, and suits toosuper sugoiand your super og battlesuits are just cute as buttons, no end of love for that model
>>98574779Le ebin ritual post my friend ecks dee XD XD so good le XDXD
>>98574790Thanks :D
I also like Orks :DD
>>98574752that's quite the wall of tranny cope, too bad I ain't readin' it
>>98574793
>>98574795>dagga dagga :DDDDDD
>>98574752I notice you didn't use the word nigger in this post at all
>>98574788thanks anon, I figure its basically a tank platoon, an infantry platoon and a crisis suit platoon. A company level Hunter Cadre.
my LGS's terrain is in one of those shit 40k terrain collages that gets posted here occasionally i hate it but there's nowhere else nearby to play
>>98574810I hope it's not the one made of transparent plastic.
>be me>bigist and griinist org :DDd>hav big shoota>shoots lots of bullits :Dd>veri shooty!! dagga dagga dagga XD>liek to shoot wiv it>go to find somewot to shood at>find dis git>he type liek "Le ebin ecks dee XD XD" but he don mean it coz he aint got da whimsy of da orgs>point da shoota at him and pull da trigga>dagga dagga dagga DAGGA DAAGGA :DDDdd
>>98574547I see you are a man of cultureAlso I am lazy, anyone has new ork codex?have old cute art as reward
>>98574805i love it, very doctrinali'd like to imagine that the ass bays of a manta could be configured in different manners, potentially. maybe up to like five racks of battlesuits as obscene as it would begosh devilfish & co. are so sexy and fat it fucks me up
>>98573863This pic goes hard
>>98574813best greentext I've read all year
>>98574787I miss classic 'nid behavior charts, herbavore/carnivore stuff when their synapse range was cut. What are the odds that's ever reintroduced?
>>98574818I always wanted to convert a tiger shark to carry a riptide like this.
>>98574829what the fuck bro that would be nuts
>>98574651Send it to yourself on discord
>>98574818Mantas were converted for lugging around stormsurges, and something had to get supremacy armor onto the ground, so it's certainly doable.
>>98574831Roogi spotted in the wild!
>>98574826Slightly above 0.
>>98574834>on discordI do not have, have never had and will never have a discord
>>98574826>What are the odds that's ever reintroduced?In soulless shrimplified modern editions? Never ever
When are carnifex going to get a new kit?
Seeing the Orks getting some psychic stuff, I am looking forward to dumb Eldar stuff.damn I missed proper psychic in 10th...
>>98574842>I'm going to shoot myself in the foot for no good reason!Discord is great to communicate with irl friends after FB went to the corpo dogs, you don't have to join any tranny servers
>>98574831I actually already have the components, Its just, I fear cutting into chinese resin
I think if the Autistic demon cyborg Iron Warriors kicked the shit out of the Iron Hands and Razed Medusa it would be good character development for the Iron Hands. They also don’t do anything
I need a bunch of grots. I need ammo grots for every single squad of boyz. I got lots of boyz. Should I just get lots of grots and slap boxes of bullets in their hands or are there some good alternative sculpts that look like ammo grots?
>>98574846after the wraithlord>>98574847You will live to see T4 Eldar
>>98574847>10th>proper psychic
>>98574867ITS NOT MY FAULT YOU CAN NOT READ ANON!Yeah, eldars psychic powers were utterly boring in 10th.
>>98574846Carnifex will get the squat
>>98574876>carnifex getting squattedLolLmao
>>98574866Intercessors are already getting a new kit
>>98574866>t4 eldarfuck. no, no they wouldnt... what you telling me, that they get 2 wounds too?!?!
>>98574880What's that got to do with the price of fish?
>>98574885i'm sure you'd agree that marines are due and will eventually receive four wounds ;)guardians and fire warriors and guardsmen will have two
>>98574889Close your legs, no one wants to smell fish.
>>98574878Yeah, that's crazy. It'd be like squatting dreadnoughts.
>>98574876>>98574911truly nothing is off the table in these dark times
>>98574911I hate primaris faggotry so fucking much, bros... it didn't have to be like this. No one else had to deal with this.
>>98574917https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK0iW5baeCYI cry erytime
I played Warhammer 40,000 earlier today. AMA.
>>98574958why?
>>98574958what was your force disposition?
>>98574958Did you winner top or loser bottom?
>>98574958Which U149 do you want to have sexual intercourse with?
How does having multiple detachments work? Do you get the benefits, enhancments, and strats of both or is it just you pick one at the start of the match to determine your available mission and strats?
>>98574985all benefits, pick one disposition
>>98574985you get the strats enhancements and bonuses of both. but you have to select which force disposition you're going to use during your list building.
>>98574964I hate myself.>>98574965Priority Assets>>98574971Winner top>>98574975You have to be at least 18 to post here.
>>98574683>The GW a few blocks away has nice terrain but doesn't allow people to play in-store as far as I knowAussie land? I know there was recently a HR email that was sent out to all Au stores saying they can have games and painting again, and that it was also meant to be sent out 4 years ago.
Imagine space marine dreadnoughts/walkers half the size of knights
>>98575015That's fucking gay. Dreads are supposed to be small enough to accompany the marines in boarding actions.
>>98575015Saturnine Dreadnoughts?
>>98575019You think one dread design is the defining thing when it's actually the outlier
>>98575027No faggot, all the other dread types are forge world shit, glorified fanfiction, the castaferrum is the one and only ACTUAL CODEX dreadnought that's been around since Rogue Trader
>>98574989>>98574994Bitchin, thanks
>>98575030No they aren'tThe castaferrum wasn't even a rogue trader design, RT dreadnoughts looked like this, castaferrum came out in 1995Keep larping
>>98574958>>98575006what armies did you guys play and who won
>>98575015that's the redemptor
Which is the funner addition to their respective armies?>Two Dakka Rigs, the Wrecka Krew Kill Team, and the Armageddon-exclusive Orks>That one CSM battleforce with a Jump Lord, ten Raptors and cultists>An Exocrine, Broodlord, and the Assault Brood Combat patrol>Both named C'tans and Nekrosor Ammentar>Any combination of Tzeentch Daemons for 250 burgerbux or less
>>98575019dreadnoughts don't fit in any standard issue imperial navy corridorhell, not even marines fit, there's no suspension of disbelief that makes them practical in those environments
>>98575042You're the LARPer retard, Rogue Trader lasted 6 years, they had already squatted those old things before it was over, tiny Castaferrums already existed in Epic and this art of the Castaferrum was in the 2nd edition rulebook in 1993. get fucking smoked fake grog idiot.
one fish two fish red fish blue fishtwin devilfish and an accompanying hammerhead arrived at for my modest tank section, have all the hulls stamped out nowlove these things
>>98575019dreadnoughts are supposed to fit inside a drop pod and a thunderhawk
If Ben scanned a Tyranid, presuming he wouldn't get trapped in the hivemind, which variant would he turn into & what would he call it?
>>98575053My Death Guard versus his Blood Angels. Basically all jump pack units. I won after having him effectively tabled at the end of turn 2.
>>98574805every army should look something like that.getting rid of forge org was one of GWs gravest sins.
>>98575078>Lictor>Krakassasin or some shit
>>98575030>the one and only>if you arbitrarily ignore all others for no real reason >but the one and only!
Anyone have the 4th pdf?
>>98575078The one he scanned? What kind of question is that?
>>98575073Wrong again retard There was no castaferrum model in adeptus titanicus or space marine, they came in third edition in 97, well after rogue trader endedJust like that image you posted where you also specified it wasn't rogue trader era lmao
>>98575079sounds fun, God bless
>>98575084No, getting rid of force organization was hardly the worst thing they ever did. It opened the door for as much fun themed armies as it did unbalanced bullshit.
>>98575078Hormagaunt Skitterscreech
What could this be, last bit was wraithbone
>>98575094That's not how it works. The omnitrix takes the species DNA. For a species like the Tyranids that have multiple forms just chosen at random there'd be more options there. They also don't grow or age so there's not like a teenage equivalent like the other aliens.
>>98575067C'tans then swap Nekrosor out for Illuminor Szeras. Alternatively that Tzeentch Battleforce from AoS if you can get it within your price range.
>>98575075looking pretty good for prints.
>>98575077>that image Ugh…heavily edited faux war photo/combat footage screenshot…grainy and with scale model paintjobs to add realism…to unrealistic science fiction miniatures…I will never get bored of these even if they get bastardized by normies like what happened to blanchitsu/grimdark darkwash excessive wash jobs with no conversions to speak of that the styles rely on…I mean all the above seriously with no sarcasm.Anyways as for dreadnought size James is probably gonna work on that by releasing new droppods and a new thunder hawk that Cawl pulled out of his self made STC library he keeps in his fat posterior.Are we gonna get news that primaris armor is so good that all of them will work just fine in space hulks?
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>>98575078The omnitrix usually picks the prime species like, the best example of the species. So either he gets a Hive Tyrant, Genestealer Patriarch, Red Terror, Old Deadeye, The Swarmlord or straight up a Norm Emmissary.As for names idk, something lame like MantisaurusRex because most tyranids got those scythe claws and nids got that dinosaur build.
>>98575100>fun themed armiesoops all terminators or oops all wraith guard is just boring spam, not a theme.
>>98575084I don't think so, infact the typical force org wouldn't allow that army to exist (5/3 heavy supports) its precisely that there is no force org that i'm free to make my own force composition that fits tau fluff much better.
>>98575095It's already been proven that you're wrong retard, you said the mini came out in 1995 but it's right here in a 1993 White Dwarf, so no.
>>98575128First company strike teamThat's a themeKeep crying that I'm fielding a bunch of inefficient TEQs that anybody can easily handle
>>98574958so uhh.. thoughts? actually good or another meh TW game
>>98575131I'm not the subhuman retard who made bold claims and started crying and shifting goalposts because he realized he knew fuckall about the history of the gameAnd the furibundus didn't get squatted like you claimed, it's still canon as another permutation of dreadnoughtSo your self sucking over castaferrum is even more pathetic than before LMAO
>>98575128while I'll agree and say most people just spam shit that's good and don't give two shits about doctrine, I also think that you should lighten up and just let people play with their dudes. Instead hold yourself accountable to making your own force org. and then make it work on the table top. that's how you get satisfaction with a faction. You shouldn't give a fuck about what's on the other side of the table. since in most cases it should be an even fight. (unless its something clearly broken from a new codex)
>>98575140>shifting goalpostsYou literally lost, it's right there in front of you, YOU are the one shifting goalposts faggot. You said 1995. Get fucked.
>>98575077Twin-linked Autocannon Dreadnought, my beloved. My first ever true kitbash was cobbling one together using two Imperial Guard support squad Autocannons and cutting into them to mount them to the shaved-down metal Dreadnought arm. Absolutely ruined my clippers but worth it.
>>98575126Genestealer might be a little low rung compared to the others. Unless an Emissary is used as the Ultimate form.
Is there any canon material about how edible Orkz are? They're mushroom people, therefore they're tasty
>>98575122Le XD XD?
>>98575143No faggot, YOU lostYou said it was a rogue trader design then immediately backtracked and tried to cry that rogue trader doesn't matter because it decanonized it when it didn'tKeep seething LMAO
>>98575170kroot will happily eat orks as best i am aware
This is around the time when the decal man starts unloading on the thread
>>98575176No it isn'tt. Decalstorian
What is the nest Meganob loadout now?
>>98575010Yeah, melb cbd
I know im retarded for just realizing it but Legion style weapon deployment for Primaris(Eldar Marines) was likely pushed explicitly for the reason of Video Game balancing.They took away Tactical and Devastator squads so they could balance Total War better.
>>98575006>You have to be at least 18 to post here.Just admit you're gay, only old people like Miura know what U149 is. Young people don't know about the franchise, it's just like how boats and touhou are for boomers exclusively.
>>98575193Go in and ask them about the 4 year late HR email, said you heard about it from QLD.
>>98575196>>98575196You're actually a subhuman level intellect if you think that's why primaris are structured the way they are now
I hope trazyn comes with a retinue, my boy sannet deserves it
>>98575196yeah that's why they also had three games about their worst selling product line
>>98575010>and that it was also meant to be sent out 4 years agoIsn't bureaucracy fun?
>>98575115>the species DNA. For a species like the TyranidsTyranids are multiple different species, they're not genotypical clones with phenotypical differences, they have actual genotypical differences to each type of bioformand if he scans the wrong thing he's going to miss the symbiotic biomorphs needed to make it functional anyway, it's a dumb question with only dumb answers unless you decide to do whatever you want anyway, ignoring the point of having a question in the first place
>>98575206>QLDBased ratfag
>>98575219It's a great question & you're just complaining to complain instead of trying to find a solution. They share the same genome. There's no reason the sky wouldn't be the limit in options beyond just a singular copy of a single nid.
>>985738793/10, too obvious. Nice effort, though.
>>98575208An-non they made Primaris so they could resell you your Space Marine army, I understand this. It's why they pushed Phobos heavy first before the "real" Primaris line rollout via Indomitus onwards. Just like once they're done filling out the (Primaris character/armor excel anon post please) chart they're just going to reintroduce stand alone Firstborn" models to make you buy your models again.The fact that it compartmentalizes and diversifies the unit selection for Video Game based properties is a big bonus though.
>>98575228>They share the same genome.no, they don'tagain, why even make the question if you're going to ignore the answers until they titillate you? just go wank somewhere else on your own at that point you're dumb
>>98575239You're just plain wrong & lazy.
>>98575209with how much lore love he has gotten, his next model should be really cool.
>>98575239>>98575243Cite your lore, both of you.
Just finished my first ever custodes! I know the colour scheme is a bit basic.....how did I do?
>>98575257What kind of esoteric shitposting is this?
>>98575263?? what are you talking about i just posted a model....how would it be shitposting ?
>>98575247I will give there's no specific answer one way or another for certain but we know they all come from queens using genetic baselines to start with then separate into species from there.
>>98575257Looks good.
>>98575257looks good, anon is just jealous that you seem to paint well.
>>98575277>>98575279tnx bros
>>98575247
Guys, it's just a conversion! I can recognize all the bits. They're not doing true scale space marines, calm down!
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>>98575322
>>98575215The imperium of man is just a mirror to GW's own inept bureaucracy.
>>98575300This is the only relevant one & it's just saying there is variance in their DNA because they're technically different species. But again, all coming from the same source.
>>98575257Nice, really like the non golden custode
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>>98575365XD?
>>98575342All things posted identify them not as just technically different species, but as wildly different in all aspects both between each other and within each other, regardless of the biological laboratory that engineers and produces them being one.You can't just scan one and go "sky is the limit", unless you already wanted to beforehand and the question was just a retarded way to ask strangers to indulge in your power fantasy fanfiction.
feeling out some vior'la nerds coloration with an initial modelnot very inconspicuous for a stealth suithalf loving it half hating it but i think it's growing on me
>>98575365ACK!
>>98575375Anon who asked for sources here, I'm inclined to agree. I don't know exactly how the Omnitrix works, but if it just scans DNA it seems more likely it turns you into whatever nids are than the nid you scanned.
>>98575375>>98575387Yes that's what different species are. They can be related from a point but still wildly different animals. You're also STILL arguing the WRONG point here. What I didn't consider is the Omnitrix scans sapient lifeforms. The tyranids on average have no sapience outside the hivemind controlling them. It also scans & restructures DNA for the strongest prime form of a species. So therefore the only answer is a Swarmlord as besides a Norn Queen it's the closest thing to an independent aware nid.
>>98575370:」
>>98575390>independent aware nid.lictor and stealer are also aware and independent it's all arbitrary cartoon logic
Haven't played in about a year, finally life is less hectic and can start playing again. I keep hearing that DG is in a terrible state balance wise, how come? Are we still at least tanky?WIP cute lil Pred I'm painting up
>>98575274I think anon is just baffled at you calling such an unusual (for custards) and nicely executed paint scheme "basic". No need to humblebrag, if that is actually your model it's very well done, good shit
>>98575390Okay, but if a termagaunt leg doesn't share DNA with a termagaunt eye. Then what are you scanning that gets you the Swarmlord?
>>98574505I still wonder how the sculptor trying to replicate "striding forwards confidently with his sword raised up in challenge" ended up with "doing a cutesy anime girl pose but got cold feet halfway through and stopped awkwardly".
>>98574752
>>98575423nuGW sculptors just can not pose at all.
>>98574752All of the socially inept anons hating on you lmao
>>98574752Nigger
>>98575128>oops all terminators or oops all wraith guardBoth of these were possible in 3rd edition.
>DoW4 features drop pods heavily>Total War 40k features drop pods heavilyIt's time for drop pods to be good on the tabletop again, James. You can smell the money. Just do it.
>>98573863This fucker probably
>>98575461Iyanden could take wraithguard as troops but how were marines taking nothing but terminators? They were elites and you had 3 slots and you were forced to take 2 tacticals as troops.
>>98575100Taking the equivalent of 6-9 heavy support or elite choices in the average 10th edition army completely fucked the balance and lethality of the game. That's just a fact.
>>98575497Dark angels could run an all deathwing list with terminators in any slot. They could do all ravenwing, too.
>>98575507To do that they had to be locked out of every single unit that wasn't terminators, land raiders and dreadnoughts.
>>98575505Do you think force org could have done with improvements?I have heard arguments for and against force org so I get the impression it wasn't perfect. Freedom of choice is nice alsoBut I would be interested in how a modified, more lenient form of force org would sound
>>98575516>Do you think force org could have done with improvements?Everything can be improved, but a FOC is always better than not having one.>I have heard arguments for and against force org so I get the impression it wasn't perfectMost of them are either wrong or using the 8th and 9th edition FOCs as reference which nobody wants, so it's mostly in bad faith.
The FOC fags are at it again
>>98575526I can complain about bolt rifles if you want.
>>98575423He modeled the torso inclined backwards instead of forward. Probably went with a He-man pose but with dynamic legs, ruining the pose.
>>98575529Slightly less autistic i suppose
vents or knees?
>>98575257I like it, the details especially. I could never get something that small.
>>98575513Sounds like>oops all terminatorsto me.
>>98575558A single subfaction with loads of limitations to get it is nowhere close to how permisive the current lack of FOC is.
i don't think i know how to feel about each and every army needing to stem from a couple of infantry squads there's some play on armies looking like armies sort of upheld with the mandate but at the same time who's to say that one's force needs to conform to such a template? far from characterful, potentially at leasti'd like it if spare FOC slots could be traded in at some ratio for opening up other ones elsewhere, maybe you subtract fast attacks for more heavy support or elitesbut to entirely fill out the chart to the point that's actually a factor as opposed to a contrivance i think entails pretty massive games in the way of points valuesdoing away with it for the while is kind of cool and one's going to have an army of some form or another at the 2000pts bracket
>>98575542LegendsWhen you finish venting you can take a knee
>>98575579Because this is an wargame and we make armies. Armies always need troops. In fact for most of history armies were nothing but troops.
>>98575516FOC + Detachments has room to be really interesting. You could have the basic FOC, then allow Detachments to slightly modify it. Using the Ork codex as an example:Kult of Speed gives -1 Elite, +1 FA.Brute Bosses gives a third HQ slot. Etc.Also, Epic characters and big stuff could use multiple slots.
>>98575584but maybe someone wants to play panzer commander against your infantry brigade or somesuch
>>98575588Then you get your minimum troops and nothing else. Tanks need infantry support.
>>98575592what if the flavor of the scenario in mind is a tank column having to go without any manner of infantry screen?
>>98575587This would be the ideal IMO.
>>98575579I think monster mash Tyranids is a good example. Does a Kaiju list really need to have hormagaunts and termagants running around for lore reasons to "feel" like an alien menace? And if they could take Tyranid Warriors for the same effect anyway and still be very elite what's even the point? Another example is Deathwing or Ravenwing Dark Angels. Them being an all Terminator or Bikes army is the lore regardless of gameplay experience and adding some basic intercessors to their list actively deviates from their identity.
>>98575414I like the weathering so far, but it's a little much on the barrel.
>>98575595If you're making up custom scenarios there's no need to follow a FOC in the first place my dude. That's out of the conversation.
FOC sucks. It only existed to drive sales of tactical marine kits which had the highest profit margins. And to make every battle look the same.
>>98575601the lack of a FOC more or less allows these scenarios to be imposed freely into any manner of game would be the only thing i'd gesture atso like, you roll up to the roleplay tournament with your all tank force or some shit and that's you're angle and you play the dynamic out against your opponents whether they like it or not and you explore the context of going without an infantry screen a few times over and that is the narrative framework of the army itselfidk senpai
>you'reyrou'e***brb kms
hmm today i will paint some sisters
>>98575526What you gonna do about it bitchboy?
i go back, make a list with 3/4e in mind, at 2000pts it's going to be some manner of combined arms stuff or a very dense infantry horde of some manner i'd wager, pretty much without fail. cool and all, but as you fill things out up to a points bracket it can't all go in one basket so to speak. in the grand scheme of things and potentiall circumstance being explored this is more than a little bit of a contrivance especially with how wildly stuff differs in how it presents and what it isi guess there's skew and then there's a specialist force in its narrative grounding and where the two overlap is going to probably be subjective maybe i want my army to be three baneblades or entirely comprised of battlesuitsthere's no real reason why such things couldn't be encountered in some armpit of the setting, and being explored in play
>>98575634You forget we're talking about standard play here where rules are needed to enforce a minimum of balance. You can ignore the FOC whenever you want if you feel like it but the restriction should be the baseline or else skew becomes the standard.
>>98575516Force Orgs are fine, as demonstrated by every other tabletop game using some form of it. The problem is that the classic one is designed for a game that has outgrown its foundations several decades ago and its nowhere near big or complex enough.The ideal for me is to introduce multiple different, unique Force Orgs for each army with different units appearing in different places, but still using the classic Troop/FA/HS/Elite split. Then allow players to take multiple FOs provided they meet the minimum requirements for all of them. Maybe a new 'Auxiliary' slot thats essentially a free pick of any unit.For example, a Guard Infantry Company obviously being built around mass infantry, with access to heavy weapons, stormtroopers, ogryns etc. You can take a couple of Russ, but if you want lots you'll need to take an Armour Company FO which has 2 mandatory Russ and a Tank Commander, but then allows more open access to the other tank options.Its basically Detachments except each one has mandatory Troop/HQ selections and limiting which datasheets can be taken in each.
>>98575257Pretty good effort put in, anon!>I'm nitpicking here. You still did a good job.Barrel could be drilled. It sounds easy, but for me getting the hole dead centre is nerve racking. I've failed a few times getting the barrel off centre.There's a bit of a moudline on the leg. Try looking into nano glass cuticles and nano glass files. Gunpla fans use those for filing down cut plastic nibs. I used Wargames Atlantic's nano glass files because I couldn't find a cheaper option on Canadian amazon. Maybe my searchfu is poor now.But I've seen mention of dspiae files being good and an aliexpress screenshot of them being sold for cheap. Wish I knew about those sooner as I'm a penny pincher somehow in this hobby.Please know that supposedly these glass files will be ruined from metal and may not work for resin. So hard plastic only for glass files. As for the basing it looks too "rocky" in the sense that the ballast kind of belongs at a rubble pile rather than flat ground. Sand can work. I wouldn't throw the ballast away. Maybe use sand with some of that ballast sprinkled to be 'larger rocks' if that makes sense.But all in all the above is just nitpicking. The model is still good.You did a good job anon.
>>98575616I hope you have fun painting your sisters today, anon!I most likely will do nothing.
>>98575653So what 30k is doing now?
>>98575587This guy gets it.
>>98573902If you can get 3d printed models, ergo a printer, you can get a box or two of regular minis.Go to the warhammer store, ask for a painting initiation. If you want more, you can always buy a box and assmble + paint in the store, they'll let you use their paints. Do get your own tools.
Welcome to the gameshow where YOU pick an indecisive Anon's next move!>Mini modelling>Mount & Blade: Bannerlord>Solo board game
>>98575529I hope they keep the different magazine thing with the new intercessors, it was the one feature primaris did right.
>>98575663I keep seeing 4th edition lauded as the best edition of Warhammer 40k so far.Is HH basically doing what 4th edition did? Is it doing it well?If well I am gonna be extra worried because it means GW truly has the ability to make good rules but just chooses not to for a myriad of reasons.
Has anyone played a game where they have used 10th / 11th edition rules but used FOC by looking at old codices and figuring out what each unit is listed as? Granted it might not work for certain armies but could be interesting
Got the steeljacks all built up. I spiced things up a little for one and gave him the spare axe from my berserks sprue instead of another hammer. My pin vice is currently MIA so the barrel drilling will need to wait until I find it.
>>98573902>8 hours agoI don't care. I feel compelled to try and be helpful.Try the free mini of the month thing. If you had fun then the hobby is for you and then you go get a 3D printer. Then save your first mini through varnishing and then storing it. Like a chessex dice box or something similar from aliexpress.Also don't fall into the trap I fell into with "practice models." It did not work on me and I didn't have fun with the practice models because I wanted to paint warhammer models instead. It wasn't fun. Buy the models you want to paint and don't be afraid of messing them up.Because the bar is really low for painted models right now. Probably dinosaur bones level depending on the LGS where just a basecoat is impressive.
>>98575658Jeez you sound like one of those fags in Facebook painting groups that gives us a shit tonne of unsolicited criticism but doesn't post anything of their own
>>9857567411th seems to slowly be creeping psychic back in, does anyone think by 12th they could ever regain most of the flavour of 4th? Perhaps a limited force org chart system and simple facing system?
>>98575684>in FacebookGo back zoomer
>>98575674>Is HH basically doing what 4th edition did? Is it doing it well?In what way? 30k is all things considered what a modernized version of old 40k would be without the influence of AoS. There's plenty of changes but you can see where they are coming from.
>>98575685>11th seems to slowly be creeping psychic back in, does anyone think by 12th they could ever regain most of the flavour of 4th?Probably not. I doubt we'll ever see a psychic phase again, but I can totally see them doing something like:All Psychic powers are now actionsAll Psychers can take an action even if its squad shoots.It gives psychers a role, it makes them distinct and isn't obtrusive for armies without psychers.>Perhaps a limited force org chart system and simple facing system?FOC I could maybe see coming back, but I think facing is gone for good, just like vehicle armor values.
>>98575694>just like vehicle armor values.I just don't get why they are so against it. Forcing them to use toughness has done nothing but cause problems.
>Warhammer 40k>4th edition has a Warhammer on the cover>Future editions don't>Game is worseDoes this explain everything?When will 40k get some Warhammers in it again?>inb4 some fag mentions Thunder HammersIf it doesn't have a beveled/pointy end it doesn't count
Vehicle armour values are the worst thing to deal with, you lot dont wanna deal with that shit again and that's coming from someone who played this game when 3rd and 4th were current
>>98575710The fuck you mean dealing with it? It's just rolling a d6, adding the strength of the weapon and seeing if that matches or is more than the AV. It's a simple system that allows them to balance vehicles and infantry separately so that weapons aren't all fucked like in 10th.
>>98575684Sorry if I came off that way anon. That wasn't my intention. It was more so to be helpful for the next model and provide advice. What's the better way of doing this sort of thing so I don't come across as dickish?
>>98575718The arguments if the front, side or rear were more exposed, i dont want to go back to it that shit can stay in the past. Happy to try out FOC again though
>>98575718He means people going "nuh uh you're not shooting my side armor that's the front", which is just a case of "don't play with faggots".
>>98575692In a fun way where the old 40k is done right. I know the Horus Heresy had a lot of Rogue Trader/oldhammer design ques that got "modernized" with modern model design technology so it makes a bit of sense that it would model some of it's rules off older editions to further that nostalgiabaiting. >>98575685Is the plan to basically one day bring back 4th but even better (and hopefully actually succeed at that) when sales dip too low? Like this "new 4th" edition becomes the primaris that (allegedly) saves GW from shutting doors?
>>98575726>>9857572730k does this and there's zero arguments. People that woulda rgue about this are argueing about some other shit right now. Just don't play against that kind of people, it's not worth changing the game to cater them.
>>98575736I'm just referring to my experience and I was a kid when I played those editions, obviously its different now but between that and blast marker arguments it can see why they changed it
>>98575727Is this shit why blast and flame templates got removed? >4th has templatesI'm not feeling so good about this because I've heard so many autism stories about templates being off centre. But I think that was because of tourney autism seeping in.Scatter dice look interesting. Were they ever made in 12mm size? I'm fine with 16mm as they'll stand out from my sea of 12mm. I just want to know where to get 16mm scatter dice in bulk to share with friends.And replace if I lose some scatter dice. My regular 12mm are all white with black dots as I expect to lose some.
>>985756744th edition is a secondaries wet dream because so few have played it now they can pretend to be a grog.Here's a hot tip, there is no definitive edition of 40k
>>98575740>the game at its peak before the modern revival>so few have played itAnon...
Since we're talking about alternative rules, how would people feel about alternating actions within a phase? I think going full alternate activations would kill what's left of the feel of 40k, but I'm unsure about partial AA.For those who don't know what I mean, imagine both players alternate moving, then alternate shooting, then alternate charges. Fight phase is already pretty much alternating.
>>98575742Im not too sure about that 5th probably had higher number of players.
>>98573863great now that joji song is stuck in my head againthanks /tg/, fuck you /tg/
>>98575743The different in unit counts between armies makes that impossible to do without ruining the game.
>>985757455th released right at the start of a global crisis I doubt many people were getting into it compared to the boom of 3rd and 4th.
>>98575747Just spitballing, but could something like "pass tokens" work? e.g. The player who has fewer units gets a few times they can pass in the battle round.
>>98575724I'm the original painter you replied to anon and I really appreciated your feedback, ty. Don't let the other guy get you down (although I just paint my models to be in between table ready and parade ready, so I dont always go for picture perfect models since they're game pieces first and foremost to me)
>>98575752I feel like that's just convoluting things to make a system "work" when we could just keep the current system that works just fine.
>>98575724Keeping it short and sweet, you dont need to type out a paragraph to get your point across
>>98575690Facebook is full of insufferable boomers and gen x, anon
>>98575755Thanks anon!>>98575760Fair enough. But brevity is the soul of wit and I didn't save myself from brainrot as it became a guilty pleasure of mine especially during the coof.
>>98575622I'm gonna XD up the thread again, just you wait, once the blork posters turn up its gonna be over for them
Apropos nothing in particular: when are the lesser daemons getting new sculpts?
>>98575674Every edition the "best past edition" gets pushed back. For a while in 8th, people here pretended 7th was the best
>>98575783Eventually, probably as Kill Team releases and box fillers
>>98575783VASHTORRRRRR
>>98575783Eventually. There's a few armies that still need a refresh between them, Dark Eldar, and Grey Knights at a bare minimum.and when those are done, it'll be the perfect time to refresh space marines again!
>>98575784It wasn't the best but it was better than 8th.
The resident GSC poster has inspired me to paint another ridgerunner. Also going to need another one with a mortar to strip cover off everything
>>98575794What's funny is when I say that people thought that (or larped it ) people here will say "no we always thought 7th was bad and index only 8th was amazing"
>>98575783Whenever they get a new codex.
>>98575793>Spoiler It is funny to thing that since the abandoned 5th edition armies released there have effectively been 3 refreshes of the space marine range.
>>98575580Man, what did space marines do to earn such ire from GW that they delete almost every iconic unit from the army? What's next, terminators?Imagine if they got rid of howling banshees and wraithlords, or ork boyz and killa kans, or fire warriors and crisis battlesuits.
>>98575811the issue is that more people recognize Primaris more now, with firstborn "support" being pushed by grifters and outrage merchants
>>98575800People have very flawed memories of old editions or very specific anecdotal experience of only playing it against certain armies or near the beginning or end of the edition when they were vastly different. Like I literally only played 6th edition twice and had a horrible experience both times.
>>98575813>more people recognize Primaris more nowAnd that's a manufactured situation. They've spent the last 10 years actively hiding the classic units from every single marketing ahd promo material and giving them dogshit rules on purpose so people don't buy them for the game either. No one took terminators for 2 editions but the moment they started putting the new models everywhere and giving them better rules? Everyone has terminators. Same thing with land raiders.
>>98575736Why did 40k remove this? It would stop the frankly retarded tank movements you see while playing
>>98575817people here also notoriously suck at the game, never good enough to see the issues in the game
>>98575822Why would they showcase firstborn if theyre squatting them, thatd only make the situation worse as actual players would be mad about it
>>98575813>the issue is that more people recognize Primaris more nowDid the majority of current space marine players really only get into warhammer in the 20s?
>>98575784I thought 7th edition was so bad it financially hurt GW and allowed Warmahordes to gain a significant following.I could be wrong or misremembering stuff or repeating exaggerated details.
>>98575823it caused tons of arguments and makes pivoting rules a very debatable topic
>>98575828yes, by the time of 8th most players started atleast by 7th. 9th, 10th and now 11th have been so popular that most players have gotten into the game within the last 5 years
Marine units are getting squatted and that’s a GOOD thing
>>98575841they should've did it in 8th, just rip the bandaid off
>>98575828Which funnily enough is the best anti-primaris argument possible. All those sales are from new players that would have bought regular upscaled marines had they not made primaris in the first place.
>>98575832NTA butwas this a fault of the rules of neckbeard WAACfag autism?
>>98575811I think it's literally just a case of GW making the best of their own VERY stupid situation. Like they must know how much this pisses people off, but ultimately they kinda made their beds with the whole primaris thing and they're slowly doing their best to reconcile them with the older range through stuff like giving intercessors more classic armor parts, refreshing terminators, letting primaris ride in rhinos now, etc. Obviously the older marine kits were never going to stick around forever - they only have so much production capacity and storage space, and time moves on, but they didn't need to make a whole new set of marine stuff when a simple kit refresh like what Eldar or CSM got would've been perfectly fine.I think given enough time GW will eventually refresh the original marines and their vehicles, if for no other reason than to ride the wave of nostalgia for them. By the time it's all said and done there likely won't be a "primaris" or "firstborn" distinction anymore, and marines will just be marines with some primaris armor cues mixed in with firstborn ones and most of their old vehicles.
>>98575854>they're slowly doing their best to reconcile them with the older rangeLiterally how?>stuff like giving intercessors more classic armor partsBut this is not true. That's just mkX with more varied pieces and a token mk7 faceplate per unit. This is not reconciliation, just replacement.
>>98575823Simplified the game for people who didn't want a wargame
>>98575855I never said they were good at it.
>>98575854>By the time it's all said and done there likely won't be a "primaris" or "firstborn" distinction anymoreYou'll still have loyalist marines being half a head taller and with weirdly long torsos compared to CSM for no reason.
>>98575855The great replacement.
>>98575854Pretty much. They're focusing on what's easiest for them and newer fans who make the vast majority of current players.Never a good idea to shit on the old guard to pursue profit, but we'll see if it pays off in the long game.
>>98575851both, GWs old policy about rules was that you essentially had to play the game on both sides. Like if you took any normal list, and just tried to win. You could do very well, so you essentially had to throw the game and in turn your opponent would throw the game on their turn. This is why you will see very old posts that say "if they bring X Y or Z then I'm gonna table him", the rules were just that flexible that you can decide to just win (or at the very least do very well) with any normal list.This rules philosophy only works when both players are able to know the lists that well to understand what would one-shot what. As time passed, people got worse at the game because the very idea of "solving" the game was seen as WAAC, bringing max lascannons on devastators was seen as too good so you'd bring a tax heavy bolter etc etc. With weakspots and hullpoints, they led to a lot of positioning gotchas that only came up when eiher player decided to try hard
>>985758007th was mind boggingly bad you weirdo; total formation death
>>98575854>. Like they must know how much this pisses people offthe people who are actually mad about it don't buy models
>>98575861Just in time to refresh CSM again. The wheel turns, etc. etc.
>>98575867I agree, this board didn't however
>>98575868anymore
>>98575876ever in most cases.
>>98575513Thank the Emperor that Belisarius Cawl, Roboute Guilliman and Lion El'Jonson made the Dark Angels see reason and let them field Bladeguard Veteran Squads, Sternguard Veteran Squads, and Vanguard Veteran Squads as part of the Deathwing.
>>98575764I wouldn't know, but you/he sure sounds like you do
>>98575890I don't have it on this PC but there are 2e era renders of deathwing marines in mark 7
>>98575861I think I figured out why I prefer the firstborn boltguns and the bolt carbines over the bolt rifles.It is because while they are big, by space marine standards they are compact close quarters guns.This means that even in close combat a marine can still hold the firstborn boltgun like a pistol (not as well as a bolt pistol) but it would visually still not look like a comically long pistol when held in one hand to use a melee weapon in the other.I'm pretty sure a cawl-godwyn boltgun STL has been made where it is just the firstborn boltgun with the cawl cylinder but I don't know of such an STL.
>>98575909this is why I don't like the old square bolters
>>98575811terminators sell. the stuff they're removing doesn't.
>>98575895>NO U XD
>>98575929But GW went out of their way for 10 years to ensure the stuff they're removing now would sell less.
>>9857386>TQThis is the gayest model I own. I made it as a joke.
>>98575936Howd they do that exactly?
>>98575783>soundtrack by mick gordonhot dayumhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkg4CpTRugE
>tqPainted this guy while stuck in a team meeting all day.
>>98575945Making them mechanically worse than alternative units and gradually phasing them out of media.
>>98575941Immaculate hand(brush)writing on such a small surface.
>>98575956>Making them mechanically worse than alternative unitsThe folks who say they love firstborn also claim that carring about competitive viability is for fags >gradually phasing them out of media.but thats all nulore, who cares?
Now that the dust has settled I think we can all agree 9th edition was the best edition since 4th.Don't @me
>>98575949Honestly it's not making me feel anything, I like the old metal tracks of the first game more. I'm pretty sure all of the songs were just remade D-rock riffs.
>>98575962>The folks who say they love firstborn also claim that carring about competitive viability is for fagsMany people are fags and competitive viability drives sales to a degree.>but thats all nulore, who cares?The people who buy SM models having only ever seen primaris in every game, animation and piece of art made in the past half decade.
should i start collecting grey knights?
>>98575962>The folks who say they love firstborn also claim that carring about competitive viability is for fagsYou say that as if there's a contradiction.>but thats all nulore, who cares?Fags.
>>98573863Sup anons, I'm a returning player who hasn't touched the game since fifth edition and I'm trying to put together a 500/750pt list for my new blood angel army, are there any other oldfags in here who can give me some tips for basic listbuilding? I'm not looking for anything tournament winning, but between the new OC/objective play and the sheer volume of utterly alien SM units I'm facing some list paralysis, my models are just the Armageddon SMs + a furioso dreadnought, 5 infernus marines and 20 assault intercessors that I'm planning to convert to jump intercessors/death company/vanguard or something of the sort Also, how is 3D printing these days? The quality (and affordability) of resin printing seems at the point now where it might just make sense to buy one and learn 3D modelling so that I can convert my own guys, instead of dicking around with millput and a sculpting knife, plus printing terrain could be pretty sweet, thoughts? Also - what's the single coolest and single most cringe thing you think a player from 3rd-5th edition has missed? I've seen some pretty funny looking models while checking out the new catalogue, to say the least. +++IMPERATOR CUSTODIT+++Also what the fuck has happened to the captcha system on this shithole website, why am I being expected to perform spacial rotation puzzles in my head now, fuck you moot you absolute doublenigger
>>98575979They're a strong army and they also have fun gameplay teleporting around, but they're on the short list of armies that will probably get a refresh sometime in the near future, so collecting now is depending on how much you care about that. Their models are quite old.
>>98575979Their range is so old you're due for a refresh this edition. I wouldn't risk it.
>>98575979Honestly I would wait for a refresh. If you like the old models that's fine, more power to you, but they're due for some new kits within the next few years and their sculpts are really starting to show their age now, not to mention there's no telling what units GW might get rid of in the update to whatever new stuff they'll get. Obviously no one has any idea of WHEN it'll happen, but they're one of like, three armies that haven't been updated yet and GW is pushing hard to update all of their old ranges lately, so it's coming eventually.
>>98575988>mootAnon, you're going to want to sit down for this...
>>98575988Ask Google Gemini. I've had Google Gemini write me several lists and it not only comes up with the list it comes up with the instructions on how to play using it.
>>98575988>why am I being expected to perform spacial rotation puzzles in my head nowIt's an excellent brown filter
>>98575988my man has been trapped in the warp for the last 20 fucking years
>>98575989>>98575991>>98575994Gonna hold off then. and pray that the baby carrier is replaced with something cooler
>>98576020The Invictor Warsuit and the Nundam Paragons are both a lot better than the grey knight baby carrier so I think they did learn lessons and refine the concept. It'll certainly be better.
>>98575988>single most cringe thingGotta be the SM gokart or temu dreadnought.
>>98576009the mutie is able to still pass it, so it’s clearly not good enough.
>>98576030Somehow I never noticed the little pedal bolters on the go-cart.
>>98576030
>>98576029yeah you are not wrong. i kind of hope they lean into what they did with the start collecting box and replace the baby carrier with a dreadnought. Give me a cool GK dread
Today should be Telemon/support box datasheets or tomorrow?
>>98576003I know, I know. Still, old habits die hard, and moot is still a faggot. >>98576005I came here because I wanted to ask humans, I don't want some ABOMINABLE intelligence writhing its insidious mechadendrites into my listbuilding process, that shit is lame>>98576009You say this, but these captchas are actually brown labour. This is literally what refugees in brownlands are paid 2 cents an hour to do ad aeternum to train large language models. This entire imageboard has been retrofitted into the digital equivalent of a botswanan refugee workcamp. >>98576011I have attained eldritch knowledge beyond all comprehension (I have no idea what the fuck is going on anymore) >>98576030This gokart just looks like a (somehow) even blockier and more awkward version of the old space marine attack bike, I'm honestly kind of impressed how little the design language has varied. The "dreadnought" mech thing is weird though. It honestly looks like it belongs in a different franchise. Might have been cool as a sort of industrial worksuit for dark heresy homebrew if the pilot was a regular humie, though.
>>98576030temu dreadnought is cool. hopefully doesn't suck so much in the new codex.
>>98576029Nundams are worse than the baby carriers imo,
>>98576050The baby carriers will never be cool.
give me reasons why marine S5 T5 is bad for the game as the marinefags in the LGS are saying its "not a problem" and that "points increases will balance it"personally I think CSM will be more of a problem than loyalists because of it
>>98576056I play against EC all the time and they already have a mix of T4 and T5 marines, it's not a big deal. Marines getting better guns and *ceramtie fists* with a points increase is a good thing. Model counts in 10th were too damn high.
I collect Tau, dEldar and Necrons and I'm about to crack and start collecting space marinesWhat chapter would you rec
>>98576056>give me reasons to argue with my friends because I can't come up with a coherent argument myself have you tried asking grok, faggot?
>>98576061found the marinefag
>>98576056Points cost will balance it is a simple statement of fact. Custodes are also an elite army with insane rules and stats, but they are balanced by being low model count and 300 points per unit. Marines are going to be a middle ground in between custodes and what they are now.Now, custodes are one of the strongest armies in the game, so there's no guarantee that GW will get the balance right. But the concept of expensive elite army that is balanced by high points cost and low unit count is sound and exists already.
>>98576062/yourdudes/
>>98576030Real sloped armor on marines look like shitEverything should be a rolling box
>>98576048>I'm honestly kind of impressed how little the design language has variedSome of the primaris range(phobos marines, the invictor, even the redemptor dreadnought) are jarringly curvy.
>>98576056>why is power creep bad?If that needs to be argued with someone, don't play with them>not a problemNever argue with retards, you're trying to figure out what's good why they're just trying to shut you up because you're "ruining their fun".
Most people in here don't play games or paint models.
>>98576073I don't have the sauce to make /mydudes/. I can't rotate an apple in my head and need Grok to solve my captchas.
>>98576069>but they are balancedCustodes are at a 57% winrate and are 2x overrepresented at top tables at tournaments, they are anything but balancedA better example would be Tyranid's, who despite having the worst fucking datasheets in the game maintain a ~50% winrate because of their good supporting rules and costing 0 points
>>98576064i'm bad at articulating arguments
Primaris are kings. Don’t ever let first sharted ever tell you otherwise.
>>98576084I paint models but don't play games, where does that put me
>>98576087Just choose a color scheme you like and make a logo out of whatever warhammer svgs you can find and badabing badaboom>>98576090pov: you're gonna get vored, or worse
>>98576056Points "balancing" them doesn't change the fact that my entire army functionally getting -1 to wound feels badAnd its indicative of either the rampapnt power creep or the wild inconsistency between codex quality were going to see this edition
>>98576090This is just porn>>98576094This is Metal af
>>98576090for me? its the vanus infocyte assassin
>>98576084I play models but don't paint games, where does that put me
>>98576084Ask again next thread we're almost at image limit
>>98576084i paint models but rarely play games anymore, can blame it on working shift work
>>98575941Let me guess. It was a joke about orcs being asexual so they could use any pronouns they wanted.
>>98576062I already shilled it to another anon in this very thread, but the only chapter worth picking is marines malevolent.
>>98576116Obsessed
>>98576118dank meme tier chapter
>>98576056The change in isolation isn't major. It being part of the trend of major power creep already in this edition isn't good though. Every weapon for every other army will now need to be buffed up to compensate, just like they did before with the change to 2W marines back in 8th/9th.
>>98576062A green chapter that ISN'T salamanders.
where can I find a 4th ed rulebook pdf?just need pointing in the right direction
>>98576088>Custodes are at a 57% winrateThat is balanced>tournamentsAre trash and the most retarded way to play 40k. 99% of people never play there and you don't either, so it doesn't matter to you what heppens there anyway.
>>98576062based xenos chad
>>98576062Seconding /yourdudes/. Have fun with it, make something you'll like.
>>98576127is it in the torrent link in the OP? i havent bothered looking myself
>>98576127>>98573863
>>98576030The invictor is fine even if a bit goofy, also you can easily fix all of the guns on the invictus by snipping off and shortening the stubber barrels to turn them into bolters.The ATV is shit though.
not sure why everyone here hates space wolves, they werent liked even before the decal spammer turned up
>>98576062Your own custom chapter that either incorporates necron, tau, and deldar parts or has a heated rivalry against them and uses them as basing material.
>>98576062You could just go deathwatch or something
>>98576136>>98576137I am retarded and don't know how to torrentnormally I just get stuff from gofile or mega links
>>98576138The invictor cosmetically requires an actual armored enclosure for the pilot and not just a roll cage and this is not negotiable.
>>98576128>That is balancedBy GWs own admission they don't consider anything outside of 45-55% balanced and in literally any other game a 57% winrate is high enough to be considered tier 1 at a minimum>Are trashLove them or hate them tourneyfags are good at showing you what shit stinks and are the only reason GW has any fucking clue what needs to be addressed at any given time. If you ignore tournament results you go back to 7th edition balance, and nobody wants that.
Build on my 1300 point marine army or buy the armigers that someone is offering me new for £40 to start working on my agents assassin list?
>>98576149>I am retarded and don't know how to torrentWhat are they teaching kids in school these days?
>>98576154how many armigers for 40?
>>98576076These guys are kind of interesting. This is always how I imagined raptor marines looking, sans the weird calf cutouts, has anyone tried just filling in the calves with epoxy and seeing how they look? I think there's a lot of potential in this kit, but the legs look weird. >>98576140Hating space wolves has been a constant of 40k anon, primarily on account of many of their fans posting cringe every time you had the misfortune of running into one on the tabletop. And that's not even beginning to mention the smell. >>98576138I'd personally field invictors, but only on the condition that any wound roll of six resulted in the pilot being hit in the head and removed from play. That would be hilarious. >>98576150And at that point, why do they even exist? It's just a dreadnought with weird articulated mech hands, it could have been way cooler as a unique non SM mech >>98576155how to browse they phones and ask gemini for math and shit, anyone under the age of 25 (or maybe even 30 atp) is technologically illiterate
>>98575854I would be perfectly happy with:>"Primaris Intercessors" renamed "Tacticus Intercessors">Comes in MK7 or MK10 flavours of truescale, with identical rules
>first born getting squattedyou know, quasimodo predicted all this
>>98575933You literally told me you went to Facebook nigger. So yes, U
>>98576160It's a sealed box of two but I have my eyes on two other thingshttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/820015765543https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/117375307491
>>98576122Did you even look at the picture of the model in question?
>>98576164I think the completely open midriff is an equally bad aesthetic feature.
>>98576088I just said that they are one of the strongest armies in the game and that GW isn't guarenteed to get the balance correct, and then I reiterated my point by explicitly saying that the *concept* of an elite army that is strong but balanced by low model count and high costs is sound.I swear some of you people intentionally omit entire sections of a post in order to disagree and then end up saying the same thing. It's really weird.
>>98576182Honestly, the midriff kind of reminds me of the old power coils you'd find running up the likes of old mark six or seven power armour, without the visible ceramite plating underneath, but they are armoured. I think it's pretty solid if you like tacticool stuff, and if not smoothing it over with some putty and painting the resulting surface the same as your armour would fix it pretty easily. Are these guys any good on the tabletop? I've been looking around and it seems like there's about twenty different variants of these stealth marines now.
>>98576056Stat inflation to accurately reflect the "fantasy" of a faction doesn't seem to carry over to anyone but marines for some reason.
>>98575700Does that mandalorian-looking helmet in the middle even exist?
>>98576150I just did a light screen on mine. Unlike a dreadnought the pilot is a full armoured space marine, and it's a light skirmishing vehicle. Having zero cover is dumb though I agree.
>>98576218Better than nothing, if I had one I'd fit one of those stormhawk interceptor cages on it
I genuinely hate my cities GW store. It's one of those super commercial, "exclusive" stores, if you get what I'm saying. If you don't consistently spend money you get treated like you're less. If you aren't part of the (birderline insufferable) local group, you get treated like you're less.Best example was just posted on their Facebook page. They celebrate their stores anniversary tomorrow. How, you might ask?>You can watch a 14.000 points match. You heard right, take time out of your day to watch two other blokes play a 14.000 point match which takes the entire fucking day I assume.>You can spend money on pre-orders>You can spend money on remaining stock>You can spend money on goodies>You can spend money on exclusive minisThat's literally it. No cake or free drinks, no nice athmosphere, decoration, raffles, anything. Just watch two paypiggies play and spend money. Great anniversary. Here is their exact Facebook post, translated in English, just so you know, I'm not making this shit up:>[City name], let’s kick off the Warhammer [city name] store anniversary Celebrate with us—the best community in the area! Snag the limited-edition miniatures, treat yourself to the awesome pre-orders, browse the fantastic new releases, and grab some great goodies. Whether you order at the terminal or buy in-store, every purchase counts. Plus: The first two “Tastes of Warhammer” events are ready to go, giving you your first chances to snag those cool pins. See you there—thanks for another unforgettable yearThey unironically used their anniversary to say "every purchase counts guys, come on!". And the worst thing of it all, by far? The store's packed. It's by far the most filled and active store in a 100km radius. Idk bros.
>>98576225God that sounds awful, is this common for GW stores?
>>98576225>Store where you go to buy things is advertising their wares>Chance to see 2 huge and (hopefully) painted collections of models on the battlefield against each otherSounds like a nice place, you just sound very bitter. I don't believe anybody in their right mind is planning to watch the whole game, but rather just see the massive armies on the table. It's a spectacle that 2 guys used the anniversary as an excuse to bring out their large collections.
>>98576177Get everything.
>>98576252I can't I'm finding too many deals and I swore I wouldn't build up a pile of shame, I still have a battle sister squad in the mail
>no ork postersWell that's upsetting, i can't even XD spam
>>98576225I had an ugly experience at my local GW and you guys are going to blame my autism for it but yeah.It was the store anniversary and they had a table with the limited merch (models, some backpack, gold dice, dice tray, pins) and there was pizza and cake too. So I'm standing there in front of that stuff and the red shirt is talking to me about the merch but he never offers me some food. I don't ask either so I left without a slice of pizza or a piece of cake. Much sadness.
>>98576278>ugly experience>all it was is that you didn't take free foodOkay?
>>98576225>14.000Why are we using a period in this way?
>>98576275Here you go anon
>>98576056I am okay with it.However updating marines without updating rest of the game simultaneously will be ass.Old codexes will have to deal with -1 to hit from cover AND -1 to wound from t5. That's like 50% output drop.
>>98576309>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
>>98576309This game is black coded
>>98576067Find a job next, cur!
>>98576314Losing old cover also gives everyone more AP though.
>>98576309damn I love that standing in arbitrary circles in the open is gone
>>98576309Ohhh le le le LE ECKS DEE XDXD ORKS! :DD XDXD LE XDthanks anon
>>98576329This isn’t funny and never was
>>98576333Not like you can stop me
>>98576339Guards, arrest this man
>>98576340Fug :DD
>>98576326Same, the terrain footprints are a massive upgrade for spectaclefags like myself. I just wish there was a bit more support for non-ruins terrain around them such as the rocks in my image. You "can" use rocks as your terrain, but you're clearly supposed to surround the footprints with ruins or other small terrain pieces that infantry can move through.Additionally, I want difficult terrain back.
>>98576350Litterally noting is stopping the terrian from being rocks or anything, hell it can be literally nothing but the footprint if you want
>>98576314The stat bumps are coming with point cost increases, its not just free power
>>98576345I can’t believe someone else actually saved that pic.
>>98576361feels good, someone reposted my collage entry from a while ago recently which has never happened before
>>98576359And other hilarious jokes you can tell your friends>Inb4 "GW said so!"You're right, GW has never lied or backtracked, my bad
>>98576376I've had my models reposted a couple times by other anons, that was very nice
>>98576164>>98576150I'm in the process of making my own Invictor from bitz. I hated the invictor design initially but now I like it
>>98576376>>98576383Must be nice
>>98576056By bringing the most common army's baseline up, every army that was already below that baseline with most of its units now has to go even higher to be able to fight marines, which harms roster variety and results in the intended goal of this change (making marines more "elite") being half-hearted, because everyone else now has to invest specifically into countering marines' new stat lines by spamming their "elite" units.4/7 Leman Russ variants are cheaper than 2 10-man squads of guardsmen and are actually capable of killing marines (and vehicles), so I'm just going to run at least 12 tanks in every game with 1-2 squads of Cadians running around to hold objectives while my tanks do the killing.Marinefags have no right to complain about their opponents' rosters; our options are "lose even harder" or "spam things that can actually kill marines." I like winning sometimes, so I spam things that can actually kill marines.>>98576149Download a torrent client. Let someone who's more opinionated tell you which one is "THE ONE TO USE." I use QBitTorrent because I'm lazy and it just werks.Paste that hash in the OP into the client under it's "add torrent link" section (usually under the "file" category)Let it runStop the data transfer once it completes if you're afraid of your IP giving you a meanie C&D letter (you shouldn't be) or let it sit and seed for others if you aren'tVoila, you have now torrented something.
>>98576356It's more of a complaint on how the rules to represent the terrain work. Rocks, ruins, trees, and random debris do all work the same and can be used, but when it comes to fatter terrain pieces, you have a few issues.>Footprint placings are designed to accommodate vehicles moving through/around them, meaning fat terrain pieces either take up too much space within the footprint, or block movement lanes for vehicles>The terrain rules themselves are written as if everything is ruins, meaning all infantry can move right through it while vehicles have to go around. This is fine for ruins that are usually only .5" wide and have doors/windows that could be climbed through, but imagining your dudes crushing their way through giant rockpiles as if they weren't there is a bit too silly, additionally slower units simply cannot move through them due to not having enough movement to pass through the footprint without rolling a big advance moveTldr: the rules for terrain are clearly made for everything being ruins, nothing to support large pieces of terrain that only flying units can ignore when moving, forcing most units to move around them instead.
>>98576401I should clarify that this isn't me saying current terrain rules are bad. This is the best we've gotten in a long time.I'd just enjoy some representation of variety.I enjoyed terrain pieces that you're forced to move around instead of through, or pieces that slow you down while moving through.
I'm not happy with my work but I think my first 1k army qualifies for 10vp at leastI'm going to do fixes and paint the bits I missed now and then poke more carroburg into recesses
>>98576423Bringing a repex at 1k points is dirty pool.
Make the next thread a Vashtorr thread
>>98575663how is this different from not having any force org at all.
anyone have the chud eldar image?
>>98575106Swooping hawk or Exodite on dinosaur
>>98576382They made a point of explicitly saying it as a point in the preview, we'll be able to argue over wether the increase was fair, too small or too big but the costs ARE going up
>>98576456If firstborn weren't getting squatted, I would bet money on a forgotten unit getting a buff and not getting the points increase
>>98576437Oh that still needs work, only the painted marines add up to 1kMy ork friend has eight rokkit launchas on his side so it's not a problem for him
I'm painting my craftworlders white, with red as a secondary color, purple as a tertiary color, pink for power swords, and teal/jade for the gems. Should I do full white armor, or white with red helmets?
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/tcdmprmg/visit-the-front-lines-in-a-trio-of-new-astra-militarum-novels/
>>98576479Oh boy more books about the fucking Guard, with 2/3 being about Cadians, this was definitely something we were lacking.
>>98576481Even the non-Cadian one looks like a Cadian-equipped regimentAt least the last one seems to be about RatlingsWhat's the opinion on these three writers?I know Peter Ferhervari has a bit of a fanbase
>>98576481Geez bro ever tried being happy?I like guard
Ever since exodites got a release in haven't seen anyone here get called an exoditefag for whatever silly reason like disliking marines or something
>>98576479We still don’t have a single book following traitor guard or a cultist for fucks sake.
>>98576489>t.observational nigga
>>98576489that's because exodite chads are superior
>>98576487Nta, luv guard, 'ate Cadia. Simple as
>>98576479>not!Red Army summer uniforms on the cover>it's not ValhallansIt'll probably be decently written, but ugh>2002nd CadiansI see the lesson GW learned from the "Why is the Steel Legion declining when they still control multiple hive cities, meanwhile Cadians are still everywhere despite lacking a planet" question was to quadruple down.Have we seen a 4-digit unit number in a GW-produced source before?The abhuman book might be fun as long as they don't write any Ogryns' speech in text with any of the Darktide accents.
>>98576491those wouldn't be interesting stories. everyone ends the same.>pray in underground bunker>pretend that nothing is happening during their day job>eventually the prayers summon a space marine or demon>cultist gets skull fucked
>subscribed to humble choice>forgot to redeem keys for one month>my rogue trader key expiredFUCKKKKK
>>98576472I'd go full white, or bone/cream.
>>98576523It's only Ratlings on the cover, so I would guess the book is focusing on them only, though it would be nice to have some of the more obscure Abhumans; that's not going to happen
>>98576526>Bumfuck Feudal world>Local governor is fuckjng over everyone while reaping the rewards>Praying to the Emperor isn't working, menial-class main character geta invited to a different sort of 'prayer group'>Conditions get worse as the governor cracks down on everyone even more, MC gets pulled further into the Cult>Cult seems genuinely well-meaning; sacrificing cattle which in turn is used to feed the cultists as they pray>Halfway through the book the Cult's prayers are answered; a Dark Apostle arrives from the Warp>Apostle instantly starts to militarize the cult and teach them rituals to the Dark Gods>Over time sacrifices turn from cattle to captured local enforcers/officials to willing cultist volunteers to innocent bystanders>MC is still convinced that it'll all be worth it in the end and that he's determined tocsee it through>Cult leader gets sacrificed for a ritual that summons more Word Bearers, MC is promoted to head of the cult>MC leads a siege of the Governor's palace with aid from the Heretic marines, they end up capturing the governor before he can flee>MC executes him and the planet descends into anarchy as the cult begins to kill indiscriminately>Planet is clearly even worse off than it was at the start, but the MC doesn't care any more since he's gone full Chaos crazy>Ends with the MC becoming a Daemonhost accompanying the Dark Apostle as the planet becomes a Daemon World
>>98576536I figure the other abhuman type that actually has models (and is featured in one of the big 40k games) would get at least a vignette in it. Then again, we may see a ratling character model soon and more units there. It'd be nice to have more abhuman units to fill into the abhuman detachments at the very least.Gunlugger Ogryns with twin-linked stubbers as a 5-man squad (able to become 10) that are battle line in the abhuman detachments would be my absolute pipe dream
>>98576491>What is Pawns of Chaos?
>>98576581It seems to me the game is moving towards a higher number of smaller units.
Are there any black blood angels?
>>98576601>less plastic in the box>same priceOf course
>>98576603yes but they dont really like crips angels too much.
>>98576479Those look incredibly boring, with the first one having some potential;Really hate the covers being product accurate, don't remind me that your book is a product, especially when I can find great stories for free on the internet, or just get a classic for a fraction of the price.
>>98576621kek'dI'm painting one up right now and recalled all the on-site pictures of unhelmeted blood angels being white dudes. Checked the armageddon box and there's a single black guy in it.
>>98576651Pretending you would buy that shit if the cover was designed differently lmfaoGW has successfully identified the subsection of their fanbase that just whines about everything but doesnt buy shit and they rightfully ignore them
>>98575746>great now that joji song is stuck in my head againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhugdiahKJM
>>98576056Marines being 2 wounds in 9th already fucked several xeno armies that didnt get 2 damage heavy bolters to deal with it and now armies like Orks who originally got T5 to protect them from easily massed AP -1 shooting that gave them no saves are now once again useless because marines are S5 base now and can shoot at S6People lost their shit at everything in the 11th Orks leak having [lethal hits] and S5 base but turns out it was literally needed just to be able to keep wounding marines
>>98576700Marinechads win again
>>98576601In 12e horde armies will have a max of 10 models per unitIn 13e 5In 14e 3 or 6, with the option of having 1 more model than 13e being hailed as a massive improvement
>>98575929predator tanks and rhinos sold well all the fucking time>>98575854GW could have just made every new kit going foward from 10th a non distinct refresh like terminators and gut all keyword restrictions, like why did jump pack intercessors need to specify that they were intercessors and different from an assault squad instead of being a new assault squad with a mix of armor marks
>>98576479>Peter FehervariInstant buy>>98576523>>it's not ValhallansYeah because only hacks write about the same tiny group of Official™ subfactions over and over, Fehervari is a proper chad who creates new stuff every time he writes.
>>98576737fehervari sucks hes the worst bl writer by far
>>98576747Is Dan Abnett considered the best by a wide margin?
>>98576707Another factor of the upcoming arms race: every army that isn't MEQ will be hordes and they aren't designed to be hordes.
>>98576747Shitposter-kun you've never read any Fehervari, you've probably never even read any 40k novels at all lol, why don't you do something other than post shitty bait in the general all day?
>>98576721rhinos aren't removed
>>98576759Dan abnett is good, ADB is also good but hes not 100% consistent either>>98576779Seethe?
nutread?
>>98576795No. This is the last one ever. Bask in it.
>>98576779>FehervariWho the fuck would want to read something made by an italian?
>>98576479>AuxiliaTime for catgirls
>>98576784dont bother with him anon theres no pointfehervaricucks are just too far gone
>>98576759Don't reply seriously to weak bait.Dan Abnett is good but not the best. He's sort of my cut-off point for acceptable, I won't read anything from the writers worse than him. Chris Wraight I constantly hear talked up but I've yet to sit down and read a full story or book from him. I've seen excerpts, and what I've seen of those bits looks very good, but sometimes a writer can get away with writing a few good paragraphs and the rest of the book is phoned in shit - Guy Haley being infamous for this, he can sometimes be excellent at setting a scene but then once the scene starts the dialogue is cringe, plot threads just go nowhere, etc. But I expect Wraight won't be one of those, I think he's probably actually quite good, I just cannot say until I read more.Fehervari is the GOAT. Nothing comes close to his work. He's the only writer who actually gets 40k on a deep level. His writing is like the stuff you find scrawled on the wall of an insane asylum in a Silent Hill game, it's a madhouse fever dream, which is exactly what 40k is meant to be. It's the prose equivalent of a Blanche painting. It takes you somewhere else.
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>>98576820>reddit spacing>wall of text>shitty opinion, likely ChatGPTGuardcels man I swear
>>98576803Freedom...
>>98576827>reddit spacingThey're called paragraphs, retarded newfag.>ChatGPTThe fact that you are so bad at discernment you think any of that was AI is hilarious. AI has an extremely immediately identifiable voice.>guardcelsYou are so fucking stupid you don't even know Fehervari writes for a ton of factions, it isn't a Guard thing.
>>98576809as in fiction in general or Warhammer stuff?Italy has good comic like Dylan Dog, or Corto Maltese as some basic examples or good prose fiction like Umberto Eco work or Italo Calvino.even GW had some important Italian like Alessio Cavatore who work at GW during the 2000s
>>98576479> FehevariAre we getting more Dark Coil or will he go in a different direction this time? Either way I'm going to paypig this.>>98576820Wraight might not be on the same literary level as Fehevari is (who is actually a good writer notwithstanding writing 40K stuff), I've always enjoyed his books purely on an entertainment basis. If you like the setting you can do far worse than Wraight.
>>98576080Power creep isn't really measured by what a unit can do but rather how efficient they are for their points cost. >>98576056one problem every edition is MEQs not feeling very fun to use on their own. The hope here is that MEQs can be something more useful than premium priced backline objective holders.
>>98575823there was nothing imo wrong with armor facing, it was the other half of the equation the vehicle damage charts which were kinda lame but tolerable until 6th edition when they added hull points making vehicles weaker while also applying monstrous creature rules to mechs making them blatantly overpowered. im sure if you brought back armor facing without the chart you wouldnt have as many problems.
here's a thought experiment : what if AoS was a game-within-game for 40k ? Imagine that the Imperium design and massively sell AoS as a propaganda tool for human teenagers and kids : Sigmar is meant to be an alternate version of the Emperor and Stormcast are intended to represent Space Marines with the whole "forged in lightning" thing being a way to depict gene modification in a way that superstitious children can understand; the game also teach them to hate Xenos (Orruks, Aeldari...) and of course Chaos
>>98579523why would the Imperium design and sell a DEI game ?
