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First for Tau
James! There's only one way to save 40k! Release the Hrud!
is it wrong to have tangibly gotten a little bit aroused when i was gluing on the thigh plating on the second of these?stupid fucking sexy tau shit
GW please... Death Guard buffs....
>>98582807No. The Ghostkeel is the sexiest battlesuit.
>>98582808Asked about in the Q&A, they're doing.
>>98582806I will never understand the people who think the Hrud are interesting and deep enough to make an entire faction out of.
>>98582829>interesting>deep enoughThe thought process is "they look cool"Sci-fi aliens don't need well thought-out and deep background lore, they just have to look interesting.
Why is 20 berserkers 360 points? Are they really that good?
Which university degree do you think gulliman has?
Anons help me, i cant decide whether to paint my iron hands librarian full blue and adhere to girlymans books or painting him black with just a shoulder and arm blue.what do you think would look cooler? Picrel for example.
>>98582829They're weirdo slimy space aliens, which we have no proper representation for except Tyranids but Tyranids are more like a mindless force of nature and are more swarms of dinosaur bugs. Hrud are like proper classic X-FILES THEME *doo doo doo doo OOoooOOOOo* alien greys or something.They've also got some kind of neat time warping aura and gameplay wise could have mechanics that could do with time manipulation. Mostly they're just really fertile ground for GW to come up with some completely new wild stuff that isn't beholden to old lore. We haven't had a truly new faction introduced like that since the Tau in 3rd edition. Age of Sigmar gets them like every couple months.
>>98582859less is more w/ the blue imo
I like orks :D>TQ: What's a conversion you've always wanted to do but haven't got around to doing?the most realistic one for my skill level would be some genestealer orks. the main thing stopping me is that I’m not sure which kit I’d like to slap GSC bits onto, and the fact I don’t have any GSC bits in the first place.
>>98582859Left looks way better, and Iron Hands do not particularly follow the Codex.
>>98582829They’re ugly as all heck too
>>98582863yeh thats what im thinking desu, i might just do a shoulder and arm blue.
>>98582868Ugly in a cool way, tho
>>98582859That shade of blue doesn't look great unless you want to run Blue Angels (the US Navy flight demonstration team) marines; it's all I can think of when I see that paintjob.The black with one blue pauldron looks much better. The shade of blue helps too, it's a better color palette.
>>98582867Iron hands are fully codex compliant
>Hand of the Archon listing removed from the web storeThanks GW. You're going to bring it back in a non-killteam kit with a price drop and not just delete it, right? Right?
>>98582879>Games Workshop>price drop
>>98582878They are ABSOLUTELY not lmao>Iron Fathers>Clan System instead of Companies>mixing Terminators in with Power Armour units
>>98582875I should pull a James and smash that unlicensed model with a hammer.
>>98582867>>98582863ty anons, im going to go with ur suggestions and do black armour with just a blue shoulder + maybe arm.
I like Orks and was very happy to be reminded about Deff Skwadron last thread
>>98582890you also forgot techmarines are often black if they are also an iron father. Probably one of the first foundings that ignores girlymans book the most
>>98582829>>98582845>>98582862>>98582868They're grimdark fremen.They do time manipulation bullshit, they're nomadic, they're tribal, they have a messianic religion, they have slaves, they take and sell drugs, they sound semitic, but on top of all that they're fucking creepy and mysterious and weird.what's not to love?
>>98582906God I fucking love Orks :D
>>98582915That's the GSC, hrud have nothing
Can someone explain why they can't produce new loyalist chapters from traitor primarch geneseed because they might rebel meanwhile half the chaos marines are dark angels and ultramarines.
>>98582912Is there a bigger crime against the Imperial Creed that a chapter can do by ignoring the codex?
>>98582921Nope, he GSC don't have time manipulation bullshit and they don't sound like space jews / arabs, also they don't have slaves, just more cult members
>>98582924Because the Imperium isn't rational, it's ruled by fear and superstition.
>>98582921also the Hrud are obsessed with archival and keeping track of family ties, that's not a thing the GSC care about because they'll breed with anything that moves
>>98582879I already got em so we’re good
>>98582921GSC only satisfy like one, sometimes two depending on cult, of all those things anon listed. They're also very different by virtue of being largely made up of human hybrids while the Hrud are entirely non-human.
>>98582931Fear and superstition are rational responses to the 40k universe
>>98582939>the Hrud are entirely non-humanARGUABLYAnd that's part of the fun!
>>98582931>it's ruled by fear and superstitionAnd that's a good thing!
>>98582945Ohhh interesting, are you suggesting they might be mutants or really bizarre abhumans? I really need to read more Hrud lore.
Can someone explain why krieg doesn't train all imperial guard regiments?The traitor, the alien and the mutant would instantly be defeated.
>>98582956Because Cadians are canonically more effective and successful than they are.
>>98582952One admech magos speculated that they might be abhumans from the distant future.The likeliest candidates for this theory would be the Ash Waste nomads from necromunda
>>98582947Is it?The imperials are losing across the board.Every book released the past few years has chaos lords carving a new empire for themselves. Necrons winning, orks winning, Tyranids winning.Fascism isn't working.
>>98582956Why doesn't one planet train all the guardsmen in the galaxy? Is that what you asked?
>>98582879fugg I wanted that oneguess I have to get it on ebay
>>98582780>Age of the EmperorYou can play Grand Faction Order which has eldar, the imperium, and necrons.
>>98582974Anon they have survived for ten thousand fucking years. It is working. It is the best they can possibly do. You're still not getting it. If they tried things differently they would collapse fucking instantly. Everywhere else in the galaxy that has tried being less brutal has been killed off already, that's why only the fascist parts are left.
>>98582974See >>98580643People like you are the reason for the failures
Eldar suck, this is not a spectacular opinion but Eldar are very lame across the board because their entire lore and personalities are just "woe is me, she who thirsts will suck my soul off my dick if i do janitorial work when i am not walking the janitor's aspect :(((" self pitying.However, Craftworld Biel-tan? That's how all Eldar, no exceptions, should behave. Fuck Drukkari, fuck exodites, fuck the clowns and especially fuck every craftworld that acts like a pansy. Every damn knife-ear in the 40k galaxy should be a competitive xenophobic racist to a magnitude so high, they should birth a chaos god of racism and it would be awesome.
>>98582982ermmm there is in fact an egalitarian utopia present in 40gay
>>98582982He’s a xeno nob gobbler anon, don’t waste your time
>>98582963If cadians were great, cadia wouldn't have blown up.
>>98582994Yes, the Enclaves. And they're at war with everyone.
>>98582999There's not much you can do about an ancient alien super-weapon being dropped on your planet from orbit
>>98582992But anon, racism is rational and thus unchaos like.
>>98583002lies, slander, imperial disinfo, etc
>>98582994>tau>utopiaLol lmao
>>98583008Could've put the quadrillions of cadians to do super mario 64 groundstomps to push Cadia aside so the blackstone fortress would've missed. Legitimate skill issue, senpai.
>>98582991Some people cannot conceive of the levels of deceit and treachery that their enemies will use on them and end up falling victim to their own suicidal empathy, we call them Liberals in the real world.
>>98582992>a chaos god of racismhere's an artist's rendition of what that might look like
>>98583019everyone is happyeveryone is fulfilledeveryone works towards a common endand no one falls outside of this schema because such things are not allowed ;^3
>>98582982ThisAny weakness gets you killed instantly in the 40k universeThe current state of the Imperium is the naturally evolved end result that is exactly to be expected given the circumstances
>>98583038so, China?
>>98583011>imperial disinforemind me of who call themselves an "EMPIRE" again
>>98582947>it's not making fun of chudsThat green text is retarded. But I guess british humour is too subtle for terminally online american brains. Everything must be red vs blue. They can't imagine a space horror setting with low key mockery of all sides. At the same GW tries to sell it as both edgy and for children.
>>98582928fuckoff guilliman, you and your blueberries can go pound sand like dorn told you to.
>>98582956Realistically the Imperium should just use a fuck load of clones as semi implied with krieg. Just throw in a few cheap gene modifications to put them above baseline humans and you're in business. In fact, that's what they should have done instead of space marines to begin with.
>>98583053>t-this is totally an SS reference!You're retarded lol it's just the simplest way to represent steam in the glyphic visual style, it's just Orks being Orks
>>98583053Youre giving GW and brits way too much credit my dudeThis is just a lazy deflection tbch
>>98582974>The imperials are losing across the board.Shut up, faggot.
T'aufags will tell you their faction lives in utopia but sweep under the rug the many beautiful t'au water caste women who fell victim to the many vain attempts to negotiate witth certain xenos species. You just know those cowtits fed a grand litter of 10000 genestealer babies across multiple generations.
>>98583054I do not discuss my life with the help.
>>98583068bruh
>>98582808They're marines. You'll get +1T in Sept.
>>98583082Yeah, and where is there a connection between that and the Ork glyph? That art genuinely goes hard as fuck and is made to make commissars look good, it was part of the article where they were selling people the models. It is not in any way making fun of them. BE JUST AND FEAR NOT. Literally aspirational.
>>98582928The Codex says ten dudes, one heavy weapon, one special weapon. It does NOT say ten dudes with Flamers, or Plasmaguns, or three dudes with meltaguns.It definitely does NOT say put an assault cannon on a Go Kart.
>>98583054why don't you frig off
>>98583076>GW made the main hope for humanity a chiseled blonde-haired blue-eyed Julius Caesar stand-in Aryan ubermenschGuys maybe they secretly are way more based than we give them credit for? Or at least we have guys on the inside.
>>98583103Rationality says units that can't split fire shouldn't carry mixed weapons.Rationality says a single lascannon can't kill a tank anymore.Tacticals are literally so irrelevant that anyone using them is asking to lose.
>>98583082
40k imagines a terrifying universe where Irish Catholics reign over the galaxy, the working class are an unstoppable violent horde grown from mushrooms and the last bastion of civilization is a dying race stuck forever dreaming about a long lost empire.
>>98583124have you tried not playing post 4th edition?
>>98583132But there's no jews left so honestly it's a pretty good deal, salvageable situation in the long run desu
>>98582991That guard lieutenant was also a genestealer you fucking retard. He also dies in the shootout with the commisar. In fact everyone on the ship is a gsc member except for one dudeMan secondaries can't even put in the effort to be secondaries anymore, they're tertiaries.
>>98583124Everyone can split fire
>>98583142>there's no jews left
>>98583044Oh no, not all the Mexico filter leaking out!
>>98583145So you're saying the fascist commissar was still completely correct? Got it! >>98582947 stands undefeated.
>>98583068>t-this is totally an SS reference!It is if you put it on an SW tank.
>>98583142>But there's no jews leftDamn near every faction is a flavor of israel and damn near every world governor is just Benjamin Netanyahu levels of foul. Ever wondered why slaaneshi cults always happen on noble households or paradise worlds most of the time?
>>98583068>those are not ss runes as steamings shit!lmao, cope. You knew what it was without me having to explain it.It's fucking obvious (and a genious idea)>>98583070Nah, it's just the facts. You just miss the background behind 40k due to your ignorance.It doesn't mean they just mock rightwing stuff, they also mock the naive and doomed left wing shit. Which is just part of a low key anarchist bent in british culture since the 60s that fueled tons of works that inspired 40k.That's why you get mockery of the church, nazis, commies, bleeding heart liberals, and everything under the sun. But that's just one side of 40k. GW also wants it to be serious, and sell toys to kids. So you get contradictory marketing depending of what part of it you consume.
Do you like Gambits?
>it's this song and dance againI miss when the big argument was about the Tau not being enough of an irrational retarded hellhole for the setting.
>>98583158you have no modelsyou don't play the gameyou don't even read the books or watch 20 minutes of loreslopyour entire conception of what 40k is comes from greentexts written by people whose only engagement with the hobby is watching tiktok loretubersWhat level is this? Quaternary? Quinary?
>>98583175>You knew what it was without me having to explain it.Because you keep posting the same thing retard you have done this before.>Which is just part of a low key anarchist bent in british culture since the 60s that fueled tons of works that inspired 40k.>That's why you get mockery of the church, nazis, commies, bleeding heart liberals, and everything under the sun.But on this point I will agree with you, when Priestley was writing 40k in the 80s he was just lambasting everybody.
>>98583062The last time we tried a bunch of vat grown Interm Coalition of Governance clones, the humans kept on having sex with the aliens.
moral high ground faction coming through
>>98583186LOL I love how you were utterly reduced to no argument and now are desperately repeating these lies to make yourself feel better the same way you will say>I am a woman>I have periods they are not just stomach cramps from being a fat cross-dressing retardEtc etcSaying it doesn't make it true!
>>98583118>GW made the main hope for humanity a chiseled blonde-haired blue-eyed Julius Caesar stand-in Aryan ubermenschYes, and the irony is that he's so genuinely that, that he's canonically depressed and borderline suicidal about his situation.GW maintains the grimdark.
>>98583183bro root of nightmares is featured hop on the call i still need my oblation
>>98583146I was talking about the editions that tacticals were still relevant.
>>98583132That's just space Lord of the Rings.oh, wait...
>>98583138I have not played since 7th. My point is whether or not it was a good idea (and it wasn't) primaris match the way the game plays better now. There is no way that going back to tactical is viable.
>>98583186How was the commissar not correct?
>>98582982>working They had tons of momentum with the great crusade and ended up surviving off its fumes for milennia.
>>98583175No you’re just giving GW too much credit
>>98582859half and half
>>98583199>The faction whose hedonism brought a chaos god of excess and the worst possible shit imaginable >moral high groundwow, the 0.001% of what remains of the eldar were not monolithically satanic, what a high ground.
>>98583230"Momentum" doesn't even last one generation, as soon as the people who accomplished the Great Crusade were dead of old age the new gen has to take up the reins and if they failed it would have all failed within under 100 years.The Imperium survived for ten thousand because the horrible oppressive shit that they do in many cases works. It doesn't even work by design - it works by natural selection. It is not an oppressive shithole from the top down by decree of the High Lords. Every planet is different and does its own thing, as long as the tithes are paid. Everything has been tried. Only the brutal fascist places survived for 10,000 years in a galaxy this hostile. It's Best By Test. It's justified by its own existence, fundamentally.
>The Imperium's cruelty is necessary and the alternative is destruction.>The Imperium's cruelty is unnecessary and goes beyond necessary evil.>muh imperium is as cruel as it is because it is necessary>muh imperium is unnecessarily cruelChoose
don't ask questions just buy paints and then get excited for new paint
>>98583175if its just making fun of everyone and everything then it stands for nothingwhich means its essentially nihilistic at its core which means its worthless garbage lol
>>98583188You're in denial. Do you thing that wasn't done on purpose? lol. Suuure. Just like they changed the orky rune. >when PriestleyHe was key at the start, but far from being the only creator of 40k. The double spread in the RT rulebook with all the people who worked on it speaks volumes.And a lot more did it over the years.Mentioning Priestley beyond historical anecdotes is just stupid. He's not a church authority or something.
>>98583263>omentum" doesn't even last one generationFalse. Historical Empires have survived in states of decay for centuries. Your lack of historical education is a sign you weren't touched enough as a child. Your education system is lacking.
>>98583264the imperium is unnecessarily cool
>>98583266i bought like 3 shades of gold for painting trim, hated how all 3 looked, and bought a 4th last week...
I want a land raider, convince me not to get one, I don't want to keep waiting for a new one because I don't know when they'll do it and if they'll severely fuck up the new one.
>>98583276>Historical Empires have survived in states of decay for centuries.Not in a world with Orks, Dark Eldar, Witches that explode into Daemons, etc. you fucking midwit.
If the imperium is facist, how come imperial knight worlds are feudal. Checkmate
>>98583264the level of cruelty is unnecessary but cruelty is necessary and the alternative is destruction.
>>98583041The imperium is weak because the ideology kills any evolution and creativity. Tau are winning because non chaos infected people would rather side with them than the imperium.
>>98583276>werent touched enough as a childBruhDo you play space wolves by any chance?
>>98583263Not really, the Imperium destroyed many surviving daot civilizations. BTW, momentum can last a long time & there's companies riding on success passed down due to taking tons of market share to the point better people can't get in.It's much closer to interia & just acquiring top much that their collapse is slow motion. BTW, primarchs & many planetary heads can live for centuries if not longer. Even then the Imperium is more of a loose confederacy that simply can't enforce anything as brutal as they want because they're outstretched. Most worlds just pay tithes & follow a modified version of the Imperial religiom
>>98583224Did I say that the commisar wasn't correct? Let's reread my post:>That guard lieutenant was also a genestealer you fucking retard. He also dies in the shootout with the commissar. In fact everyone on the ship is a gsc member except for one dudeNotice that I have not made any mention of whether or not the commissar was justified in his actions. In fact this is just a factual retelling of what happens in the episode, I make no judgement on anything except calling that retard a retard.Now let's see what the next sentence says:>Man secondaries can't even put in the effort to be secondaries anymore, they're tertiaries.And there's the argument. This thread is infested with dipshits who get all their information from greentexts and youtube shorts. Hence why the original post could not get core details of the animation correct.Now let's see anon's reply:>So you're saying the fascist commissar was still completely correctWow, where did that come from? I made no mention of the commissar's correctness or incorrectness.Why, then, did the retard choose to say this? Obviously to deflect from the fact that he is a dumbass that gets all his information secondhand from greentexts and can't even be bothered to watch a 20 minute hammer and bolter episode, let alone own models or play the game
>>98583264>ChooseNo. The correct answer is "all the above">>98583268>it stands for nothingIt stands for everything. The real point, of course, is to sell toys, but the lore is designed so people can sympatize with any given faction
>>98583300>evolution and creativityNot currently shown as being strictly necessary for survivalAlso they literally just evolved primaris so>tau are winningAlso yet to be seenIm glad your faction is doing good but the Imperium isnt going anywhere lets be realThe lore isnt going to have the Imperium just fucking die lol
>>98583290>jobbers, jobbers and jobbersoh no
>Add in Storm Guardians per anon's suggestions>35 points left, so unable to give them a pity WarlockFuck this gay ass dataslate, even swapping my Shroud Runners for a Warwalker leaves me 5 points shy
>>98583076Guilliman is liberal.>>98583158The most cowardly guys on a krieg regiment are the commissars. They're not always immune to corruption. He wasn't a genestealer but he could have been. Maybe he should have read the room and not shot up everyone, if you're the one human then you save the day, you don't go ballistic.
>>98583309Im just saying if theyre just clown jesters poking fun at everything then they dont actually stand for or assert anything themselves then why would anybody care what they think anyway?Our interpretations of their product is more valuable than their original intentions since their original intention was to just be condescending shitheads towards literally everyone
>>98583276My fellow Byzantine and other historical appreciator >molestedMy fellow american?
>>98583302>the Imperium destroyed many surviving daot civilizationsThat argument always has been stupid. Those DaoT survivors were isolated by the warp storms caused by Eldar degeneracy.So besides freak events, they lived or died on their own. But when the Fall happened and warp travel was restored through the galaxy, it became a race for conquest.If the 30k imperium wouldn't have conquered the Galaxy, the Orks or the Rangda would have done it. A "multipolar" galaxy had no chance.
>>98583259>The faction whose hedonism brought a chaos god of excessOh so the craftworld Eldar are now responsible for the actions of the empire they explicitly left because of said actions?>B-BUT THEY ARE ONLY A SMALL FRACTION OF THE EMPIRE!!!And? You mean the large majority of extant Eldar in the galaxy are a small fraction of what they once were? Does that somehow negate the moral superiority of the craftworlds?Mon-keigh glazers can't handle the truth.
>>98583311Even the lion has become a leftist. He forgives every traitor he can see.
>>98583302The Imperium of Man is more like 1920s/30s China than it is like any other semblance of a political entity.>big tent full of people that (mostly) pay lip-service to a single leader>each one of those people is moderately distrustful of their peers, sometimes outright fighting them>a few openly align with an enemy foreign power, but the big tent leadership is too stretched and weak to do anything about it>a few are openly at war with the big tent leadership but again too stretched and weak to do anything about it>even more still are just bandits and raiders pretending to be part of one of the above-mentioned factions>some of them are Russian or German for some reason
>>98583338>If the 30k imperium wouldn't have conquered the Galaxy, the Orks or the Rangda would have done it
>>98583322>Guilliman is liberal.Anon, he's a space Augustus that thinks that "democracy" is a dirty word.And Calgar is the same. In the Dark imperium novel, he sends fucking Terminators to crush a pro-democracy student rebellion in Mcragge, lol
current winners of the setting>orksthere is only war>khornethere is only war>admechthere is only war and they are the arms dealers and war crimes are legal>tyranidsthere has been only war here for so long that all the food has some whacky good dna to eat
>>98583358Does ultramar have 401ks for people?
>>98583339>Scrawny tries to pull the rug on craftworlders not being the same as the eldar empire that brought upon slaaneshJust because 1% of you pansies were proper good people won't undo the 99% of what the rest of your faction actually behaves like, there is no moral high ground. Only coping.
>>98583352Oh no, this means the Imperium will start strapping bombs to themselves and jumping off warehouses!
>>98582845>The thought process is "they look cool"they don't look like anything
>>98583362>admech>winninglmao
>>98583285What paints? I pray they weren't all Citadel
hrud look retardedsorry not sorry
>>98583352So abbadon is Chang Kai Sheikh.
>>98583338>Those DaoT survivors were isolated by the warp storms caused by Eldar degeneracy.So was earth, that's irrelevant.Nevermind that many of them survived and adapted to survive anyway.Like the Interex, only reason why ever even died was because they made the mistake of trusting the Emperor and his legions due to fairing the taint of Chaos on them. And they were 100% fucking right because Erebus, already corrupted by Chaos at this point, stole one of the "DO NOT TOUCH: Fuck Ass Evil Sword" from their museum.
Votann have won 40k. They infected 40k with Destinyfaggotry.
>GW hosting a Space Marine Q&AWhat questions do you have for James regarding Space Marines right now?
>>98583299high IQ answer
>>98583387Are they still potty trained after spending so long in poop recycling armor?
>>98583387dear games workshop why are you so gay sincerely little timmy ps please don't tell my mom i called you gay
>>98583339if Eldar had morals, they would have nuked themselves their homeworlds, starting a civil war if necessary to stop what they had to know it was coming, and had already destroyed civilizations across the galaxy. In 40k they would be trying to genocide the Deldar.But instead they ran away from their responsabilities and did nothing.>>98583356>he doesn't know about the Ork Empire of Ullanor or the Rangda
>>98583365>1% of you pansies were proper good peopleIt was way more than 1%.>rest of the 99%Dark Eldar are less numerous than Craftworlders. It's literally spelled out for verbatim in the 10th edition Craftworld codex.
>>98583365You keep trying to equate the Craftworlders with the Eldar Empire because you have no argument against the Craftworlds and can only hope to manufacture some sort of guilt by association for an action that the Craftworlders explicitly opposed. Cope and seethe.
>>98583376in the 3ed ed Necrons codex, there is a techpriest to whom your pic related literally happens
>>98583367Look at the bright side, it means that guard can finally get melee infantry and wear Stahlhelms without the baggage that GW corporate is so afraid ofThe German-trained regiments are one of my favorite historical factoids, I'd like to see more exploration of them.>>98583383No, Big E is Chiang Kai-Shek. Guilliman is Li Zongren. And so on.
This will be your new Raid location.
>>98583409planet-gobbling votussy......
>>98582915the real fremen of 40k are the ash wastes nomads of Necromunda
Space marine chads, tell me your chapter and what music you listen to while you paint.ill start very fitting INVISIBLEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZqtwB9Gx-I&list=RDEZqtwB9Gx-I&start_radio=1
hrud are allowed to be playable but only if its they include the space skaven hrud in there somewhere
40k is a WHFB prequel and pic include surviving primarchs
>>98583403>the Craftworlders with the Eldar EmpireBoth are eldar, both have spiky ears, both are scrawny.
>>98583431no
>>98583427>(slowed and reverb)you have to be over 18 to post on this website
Building battle sisters and god damn these bits are tiny compared to push fit space marines
mangus did nothing wrong
>>98583385>Eldar degenerates triggering the end of interstellar civilizations for millennia was no biggieYou don't realize that the Eldar destroyed not just the DAoT humanity pan galactic civ, but also all the other friendly xeno civs, do you?>the InterexAn online meme. A road bump. They only held a couple of planets and were wiped out in a few months by a single fleet. Off screen. Meanwhile real Xeno empires needed decades and several legions to be put down.
>>98583409Is that a whole Necron planet? That's going to be a bitch to unclog.
>>98583441im 30....i dont think 19 year olds could afford 40k in current year.
>>98583448>Gets told to do nothing>Does nothing wrong
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98583447the models are designed for dainty women hands. why arent you building space marines?
>>98583450>They only held a couple of planets and were wiped out in a few months by a single fleet.Horus was weak. So weak that he isn't worth mentioning or if the Interex cared about expanding or not.
>>98583447remember this when a chaos baby cries about painting trim they are weak and marines are all building/painting on easy mode
>>98583286the mould is fucked, don't torture yourself
>>98583447The Simulacrum is the bit that gets me the most in that kitHaving to build the actual holy relic container, and then build the casing on top of the pole with all these tiny bits, and then having to assemble the cherub on top of it was aggressively annoying to do.I'm doing the basic icon one next time
>genocide all the neutral-friendly xenos that could have been your allies>only dudes left are the guys you couldn't kill>"WTF WHY ARE XENOS SO EVIL? WE NEED TO KILL THEM ALL"
>>98583448He became a demon, that's wrong.
>>98583396>>98583398I think it's more supposed to be about all the shit that's leaving the range and the game, but you do you.
>>98583457>iron hands great crusade.jpgThat's the Isstvan V Dropsite Massacre, AKA the worst day ever for being an Iron Hand
>>98583467It was cheap and I want to make a small agents army
>>985833802 were AP, greedy gold and tainted gold, and 1 was vallejo goldGreedy gold felt too orangey despite comparisons to retributor armor but was okay, just okay. It had nice coverage and didn't look bad, just not what i wantTainted gold was actually hideous, it looked fine in the bottle but after shaking for several minutes I put some on and it had this disgusting green-yellow mixture, on top of that it was insanely grainy even when dilutedVallejo gold was also okay? It felt alright, very close to the retributor armor spray, but I wanted something a bit darker or glossier.I settled on the Vallejo TMM arcane gold which looks like it has some nice depth to it, at least on the sprues I was testing the colors on. Interestingly enough it looks a lot like tainted gold in the bottle but the application was way different. I'm not sure if the bubblejo thing people meme here is an actual thing or if it's just from a bad experience from years ago.
>be eldar >fail>be elf>save the world and your survivors captured slaanesh in aos as backstory Why so different?
>>98583487They're a bunch of defeatists like the salamanders and raven guard who refused to replenish their numbers in time for the siege.And now it's just dark angels and ultramarines who exist, everyone else is barely there.
>>98583427https://youtu.be/jM8dCGIm6yc?si=mISEHlFyOoh94sAo
>>98583487agents confuses and angers me, its not a viable army but also has deathwatch thrown in there and has some really cool models like eisenhorn.I think it only exists as a " catch all" for characters that dont neatly fit into other armies.
>>98583387Yeah when are you giving up on this retarded primaris project that has split the fanbase of marine players for a fucking decade and just giving us new Tacticals and Devastators like we wanted?>but they're in Horus Heres-FUCK YOURSELF faggot. I want to play with them in the actual game with all my friends that play xenos.
>>98583427>your chapterMy own>what music you listen to while you paintI hate painting, a friend who loves painting does it for me. I do the assembly and kitbashing for both of us because he hates that.
>>98583450>An online meme. A road bump.Still a human civilization that survived through the DAoT and Imperium destroyed it.
>half of my army has been reposed or mirrored in blender because I'm autistic about not wanting to repeat posesdo you think tourneyspergs will notice?
>>98583507It exists to force people to buy an extra codex if they want to bring certain allies, otherwise it doesn't work in a very annoying way because it could be very cool if it had actual support.
>>98583475>genocide all the neutral-friendly xenos that could have been your allies>only dudes left are the guys you couldn't kill>"WTF WHY ARE XENOS SO EVIL? WE NEED TO KILL THEM ALL"
>>98583516What faction of 40k is this?
>>98583526imperial guards
>>98583487its actually not, its from a great crusade battle which the iron hands, emperors children and ultramarines fought.https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Fall_of_the_Lords_of_Gardinaal>>98583502yes we are a chapter past our hayday, our primarch is dead and we mourn him still and mutilate ourselves. However a few iron hands were at the siege of terra, i know one was a 2nd in command to sigismund during the push to retake the astronomican
>>98583501fantasy doesn't have space marinesfantasy allows its good factions to each have a time to shine because at the end of the day they're diplomatically linked so they don't undermine each other by shining 40k can't have that because space marines can only exist when the setting is as dumb and nonsensical as they are and space marines are built on offsetting an inferiority complex, so they fall apart the moment they're diplomatically linked to the other factions>other imperial factions are other factionsno, they aren't
>>98583526It is the most Imperial Guard picture ever
>>98583529Seems primitive.
>>98583504based white scar enjoyer
>>98583501>>98583534Nobody cares about your gay elves, regardless of setting.
>>98583534>fantasy doesn't have space marinesErm, aren't you forgetting someone?
>>98583526Catachan jungle warriors
>>98583521if it's a GW tourney you're pretty much as the mercy of how big a sperg your judge/opponent is (spoiler alert: only spergs play competitive 40k). if you're losing they won't care, if you're winning expect them to flag a judge down for a DQ
>>98583547ground marines are more grounded than space marines
>>98583387when is every chapter but the ultramarines being moved to legends?This is a satarical joke question but i really wouldnt put it past the suits at GW in current year
>sex all the neutral-friendly xenos that could have been your allies>only dudes left are the guys running away calling you a rapist >"WTF WHY ARE XENOS NOW SO HATEFUL? THEY KEEP ON REJECTING ME"
>>98583526That's the guard, Steel Legion flavored Baneblade.
>>98583427Hello Fello IH chad. Here's my contribution.https://youtu.be/KrkYVPzPB70?si=_Ao-R2uT20OejIN6 [Embed]
>>98583544Storm Lords tickle me in just the right way. I like them more than the WS.
>>98583547AoS isn't fantasy
>>98583504This is kino wtf
>>98583570well met brother, also good music taste ( expected from an IH enjoyer)
>>98583508Primaris are cool tho…
>>98583554Getting rid of them would reduce paint salesGW makes more than enough on selling its green shades to make up for having the few only-for-Salamanders sculpts.
We are DONE with being COY. Join the cult right NOW and this psychotic SLUT will bounce on it until you fucking DIE
>>98583547you will find that stormcasts failed to be space marines, despite that being gw's intention, the fans in particular can and do see the mould, but also where it breaks and flopsand them being more reasonable is one such part, if space marines and their relations with eldar and votann were written like stormcasts are written with their respective allies you would call them cucked and humiliated, even if didn't come with any of the dei shit stormcasts have more of
>>98583573> storm lordsisnt literally only like one of them alive still? And they ended his story on a cliffhanger?
>>98583508>Yeah when are you giving up on this retarded primaris projectThis never happened.
>"marine" >nothing to do with water or sea-based actions
>>98583427>>98583570Every IH fan in one place at the same time, amazing.
>>98583597The failure of Stormcast just shows how AoS is an utterly broken and unsalvageable setting. Them trying to reinvent it AGAIN is just going to end in failure AGAIN.
should I pay 30 euro for a scan of the kill team exodite box?
>>98583601Americans decided space was water and everyone else agreed
>>98583601They fight between ships, in space, doing boarding actions or beach landings (in context of space, that being planetary assaults).Science fiction uses naval terms when talking about space because we call them space SHIPS
>>98583534>fantasy doesn't have space marineschaos warriors>fantasy allows its good factions to each have a time to shineLMAO! NO, IT DID NOT! lizardmen, tomb kings, brets, dogs of war, vampire coast, wood elves, dwarves, beastmen, demons, were all left to fucking rot. Both from a narrative and from a support standpoint, only some of those factions I mentioned got a handful of support if any at all right when the setting was killed. GW only ever jugggled with empire, high elves, chaos warriors, and vampire counts.
>>98583612Silly anon, the failure is the best thing. They will never have an all-encompassing faction the way 40k is Marines. That is why other armies like Elves and Undead get releases that left xenos players envious for years.
>>98583601They're called marines in honor of the genescientist who perfected the process for growing their organs in vats, marination.that genescientist? jimmy space
>>98583596DIE IN THE NAME OF THE EMPEROR XENOS FILTH
>>98583629Kek"Arkhan Land" is still one of the cheekiest jokes ever
>>98583628>That is why other armies like Elves and Undead get releases that left xenos players envious for years.Wow, if only those releases actually impacted AoS's digshit sales and setting at all instead of having it remain the black sheep setting nobody likes.
>>98583626Hello there Total War newfag. Do you not remember sniping lords with your Dwarf cannon? Or do you not know Vampire Coast was a minor subgame thing that was never remotely major? And did you play 7ed before saying Daemons?
>>98583637IRON WITHIN MY BROTHER!!!!!
>>98583613I don't know, do you want it for that price?
>>98583599Not that I'm aware of, they have like 3 companies taking part in the 4th war of armageddon.
>>98583508>I want to play with them in the actual gameHorus Heres is an actual game. Go play that.
>>98583612the failure of stormcasts only shows that if marines were invented today, without decades of normalisation, they would be a catastrophic failure
>>98583643Nice try anon. Paint outsells your favorite setting. Time and time again your butthurt folk come to /40kg/ like we're supposed to care about your clown crusade.
>>98583649I'll wait
>>98583611relevant
>>98583626>wood elves, dwarves>left to rot
>>98583658>Buh fantasyLmao fantasy sucks too, and Old World is also a colossal failure.>>98583655Yeah man that's totally why Marines aren't the face of 40k and what every person new to the setting recognizes immediately even without prior knowledge.Oh wait...
>>98583531>its actually not, its from a great crusade battleNo it's not. The wiki is wrong. Or rather they reused the image.The original is from Massacre, the second FW HH books about Isstvan V. See here:https://gofile.io/d/NU2uJfo4The black sand and those Aegis lines are a dead giveaway.
>>98583648does that look like an iron warriior
>>98582783Blanchitsu mentioned
>>98583062>they should have done instead of space marines to begin with.lol, the shit that inhabited the galaxy during the Great Crusade would've gone through this clone army in a week
>>98583680hmm, i did wonder why the ground was similiar to isstvaan.My apologies anon! i guess you were correct!
>>98583684No do it with Eldar move distance vs. Phobos marines
>>98583626>chaos warriorsaren't the good guys so they don't count as marines equivalents>but marines aren't goodthey're imperials, they aren't chaos, they're the good guys>lizardmenhad their moments to shine, including their launch coming with a global campaign to save the world >tomb kings, vampire coast, beastmen, demonsaren't good factions >dogs of wararen't a faction, but essentially an add-on >brets, wood elves, dwarveshad their own moments, including the crusades, the defeat of morghur, the support of the empire and the role in the catastrophe
>>98583671Wood elves have a majority of their kits stuck in metal, and dwarves have the most broken kits on sale rn. Gaps everywhere and fucked up molds. Granted I dont care for either of them(((((((((Now)))))))), their lore is stupid or they're just dumb to play.
>>98583363No, they have 40k's
>vampire coastMight've had a point if kislev was mentioned but their limited army list from White Dwarf #306 was ridiculously minor then forgotten. They're not even nippon level setting influence given the skaven ninjas.
>>98583675>why Marines aren't the face of 40k and what every person new to the setting recognizes immediately even without prior knowledge.decades of status quo is what did that, yes
Cathay are the real good guys of warhammer
How fun are Death Guard to play? I'm mostly interested in daemon engines, plague marines, and terminators. Kinda want to dress them up like Nurgle Iron Warriors.
If 40kg hates taus so much how come none of you do a collage of water caste diplomats being put on their rightful places: as tactical rocks for /yourdudes(?
>>98583626>>98583702>vampire coastvampire counts
>>98583718Death Guard are the most boring slog to play against because fighting daemon primarchs sucks. You have plauge burst crawlers and bloat drones so you got the demon engines covered.
>>98583726Because we already have our resident punching bag, we don't need another
>>98583157Its liquid chlorine so those niggas is dead
>>98583726That would require me to buy t*u plastic.
>>98583717cathay as a whole have made me give up on fantasy. They have all the complaints people have perceived of the tau, but worse. Also they're boring as fuck visually, maybe if you're not entrenched in chinese fantasy already you can be beguiled by some plastic yellow fever but they literally have nothing going for them. I HATE space marines, and I would rather collect white scars than touch cathay.
>>98583717Tell me about defeating Juren.
>>98583729I'm extremely anti-primarch. I wouldn't use one.
>>98583726that would still require me to buy tau models, not happening ever. Why do you think 90% of the time the xenos enemy in 40k stuff is either orks, nids, eldar or necrons? Its because they are the most popular. Tau will be eternally in the shitter with leagues of waste of plastic.
>>98583737This. They're just another Imperium. Same systems with dipshit demigods feuding while feeding fanatic cannon fodder to chaos while they have golden super soldiers and shit.
>>98583596Oh Christ the fucking head
>>98583655LMFAO no, what it shows is that people, without even being able to explain why, can subconsciously feel the difference between something that emerged as a natural idea out of the love of the historical and the fantastical, and something that was corporate-mandated soulless slop made to appeal to what out-of-touch executives thought people liked about space marines.
>>98583740mortarion looks like it would be a pain in the fucking ass to paint so thats probably to your benefit.
I really hate the 40kification stuff. I know it's because they're just throwing shit at the wall to try and make more money, but at least in late AoS 1st through 2nd edition things were very distinct. Now they're even doing 'sigmar has a webway project!
>>98583749From the back it looks like the Eraserhead baby lmfao
>>98583726I rather make fun of the space wolves because of one particular sperg in here.
>>98583044this was in jordan btw
>>98583702>aren't the good guys so they don't count as marines equivalentsAnon more than half the marines in 40k aren't good guys either
>>98583744>Why do you think 90% of the time the xenos enemy in 40k stuff is either orks, nids, eldar or necrons?eldar are rarely the enemy faction, the others are chosen because they can be mindless and numerous enough, they don't warrant any real thought regarding whether the war in question is actually justified
>>98583427I'm confused, why isn't there any mention of Dolly Parton in the lexicanum as a minor Chaos God. I can't go two feet without reading or hearing about her.
>>98583751>love of the historical and the fantasticalBut I can't find that in any GW. Take how Bretonnia was a Monty Python joke, a mudcore grimderpfest, and a cereal box Arthurian parody. It's very shallow and much of 40k is comparably based on ill informed memes of history than actual history. Same for WHFB.
>>98583702Imperium and marines aren't the good guys.
>>98583759Speaking of which, if the next collage is a joke or reference, I'm definitely pulling a [LIMITED] joke. I just need a ton of space wolf decals but I don't own any.
>>98583766It's a good thing Carnac and his orbiters don't come around much anymore otherwise this single post would have guaranteed the shitting up of the next 4 threads
>>98583766>>98583770GW literally came out ans said "Space Marines are the good guys, they protect Humanity" in theblatest investor report.Give it up, the Imperium are the protags and the good guys
>>98583737They're blatant China pandering in the worst wayWuxia magic with Three Kingdoms-era armor and aesthetics is literally all of East Asian fantasy. Does Cathay have any use of the word "cultivation" in their lore? If so, yea it's over.The part I find interesting is that Cathay is always painted and modelled as one race for "authenticity to their historical inspiration," but Bretonnians and Empire forces are always "modern Europe" diverse. This is another obvious China pander if you know anything about Chinese media.
>>98583769>But I can't find that in any GWBecause you have never actually read any of it and are a tourist.
>>98583784investor reports are not canon
>>98583766>>98583770>>98583702>>but marines aren't good>they're imperials, they aren't chaos, they're the good guysyou would have a point if there was a human faction that wasn't chaos or somehow inhuman, other than the imperials, but that's not the case, the imperials are the good guys in the setting, because they're humans, and aren't chaos
>>98583790They are literally legally required to be.
>>98583790On the contrary, investor reports are the only concrete canon in warhammer
>>98583749That's what you'll be saying when you're on the receiving end of the old sloppy toppy
>>98583789But anon, it's because I've been here long enough (longer than you) and I've known the sources and shifts. I remember Stillman's Bretonnia and others. They're shining examples of lower effort than >>98583788's pseudo china
>>98583784sorry my dudes are objectively bad guys and that supersedes any investor faggot
>>98583784>investor reportsJewish propaganda, irrelevant.
>>98583807>it's because I've been here long enough (longer than you)Lmao no I promise you haven't.
>>98583756I don't remember that baby having 20lbs of pussy and ass
We need more ballet dancers in 40k.
>>98583814You don't remember? At least tell me you remember a time Men of the North weren't all chaos. Please no more bluffing. Your lack of saying anything exposes you too hard.
>>98583596>4 arms>none of them is cupping tits or assruined
>>98583824Careful anon. He thinks Vampire Coast was ever anything major on tabletop. He just likes playing Total War. That's all. Nothing wrong about being a filthy secondary.
>>98583734I'd rather be dead than live in Mexico.
>>98582947>The only place fascism is successful is in fiction.figures.
>>98583824>>98583835I think both of you are retards who are mixing me up with someone in a completely different reply chain.
>>98583791A brief thrust pleasures brightly. Being human is using each of your five penises to sex ten different aliens at once.
Stop talking about fantasy shit, this is the Warhammer 40,000 general
>>98583791>you would have a point if there was a human faction that wasn't chaos or somehow inhuman other than the imperials
I am ashamed of myself but I still seethe. Therefore I must keep replying.
>>98583843>this is the Warhammer 40,000 generalthen why are you posting Warhammer 41,000 shit?
>>98583843ThisFantasyfags gtfo to your own thread, we don't care about your dead game here. You have always lived in 40k's shadow, you are fucking nothing by comparison. Even when 40k was still brand new as Rogue Trader it was already demolishing fantasy sales and rendering you obsolete.
>>98583847Dwarfs are dwarfs, they aren't human, regardless of the common root.
>>98583819I would like a Votann army themed around the Golden Age. SIVA, Black Armory forges, etc.
>>98583830Maybe when he does more GSC... or rather, if he does moreAcross the Realms OWES me sex
>>98583857Are cat-girls human enough?
>>98583857>Dwarfs are dwarfsThis isn’t fantasy kid, try again
votann are communist (evil)
>>98583596y-you too...
>>98583847kek based
>>98583847Those are part of the somehow inhuman
>>98583869It's really cute how they're both doing different naruto hand signs
models?
>>98583907Sure, post yours for the class!
>>98583897>he copes
>>98583907Already posted mine in the last thread.
>>98583857The Emperor, Primarchs, Custodes and Space Marines aren't human either. Therefore, they are not the good guys.
>>98583907post 'em
would anyone happen to have examples as to what the ta'lissera/bonded icon looks like upon tau plate?
>>98583847Anon BTFO
>>98583838I mean when you look at real world Nazi germany they were far more successful than they had any right to be, they were always fighting a losing battle in WW2 even just against America alone, let alone doing that while fighting half of Europe plus Russia, but they got so much closer to victory than they should have. Doomed from the start but made a noble effort. That kind of reflects the Imperium as well who are not going to be able to succeed against Chaos and Tyranids plus everything else, but damn if they aren't gonna try.
>>98583929it's not cope, it's fact, they don't look like humans, they look like dwarfs, they're not human, they're genetically engineered into being a different raceby your argument genestealers are humans, or beastmen would be human, or eldar too, since they have common origins one way or another
>>98583940they are part of the human faction and are made to look human
>>98583959The Eldar count to me because then it means we can have sanctioned sexo. Let me clap big banshee butt.
>>98583847LoV aren't a human faction.
>>98583759>>98583776You’re pathetic
>>98583956Does this mean the Imperium regularly scams jts own population and passes on debt they can't pay to other countries they attack?
>>98583975Calm down, go watch some bluey LMAO
>>98583977Sounds like jewish propaganda to me
Marines and the Imperium are not the good guys, trust me.
>>98583776could ask around your LGS. one person has got to have some partially used space wolf decals laying around.
>>98583966Imperium aren't the good guys because it was created by something that isn't human and is continuously protected by many varieties of non-humans. Therefore, the Imperium aren't the good guys.
Imperium aren't Nazis. They're not the most rapeable thing in existence. Copulation without conversation is their purpose.
>>98583993My flgs has a community bits box and discord for swapping bits, so I'm going to ask there first anyways. That being said, a kit of blood claws could be useful for kitbashing anyways.
All of 40k should be evil. Even the good guys and bad guys should be evil. And the non-evil people.>But howThey should be even even if they're not evil. That's how it works.
>>98583975eh, I’ve been called worse
I still don't know how to defeat Juren.
>>98583959>they look like dwarfsWhich look like humans>they're genetically engineeredHumans>genestealers are humansXenos tainted humans>Beast men would be humanChaos tainted humans >eldarAlien>>98583974Xenos in culture, not species
>>98583956Germany also had the other axis powers and as much as people like to downplay their involvement they actually contributed alot towards keeping everything together. Japan forced the UK and USA to divert troops and part of their navies to the pacific, Italys army sucked but their navy was the only reason the British didnt just completely blockade the entire med sea in 1939. Finland also forced the soviets to stretch their frontline while Hungary and Romania contributed alot of troops to Barbarossa with over 1 million from Romania alone with them also supplying alot of the oil the Axis needed early on in the war and Hungary was one of the last Axis holdouts, Bulgaria also helped by basically taking over occupations of Greece and Yugoslavia to free up Germanys troops to fight in the USSR
Organs are humans
>>98582783>opr removed from alternative rulesWhy and what should take it’s place?
>>98584067>Which look like humansno, they look like dwarfs, so they're inhuman>Humansno, dwarfs, so they're inhuman>Xenos tainted humansno, they're xenos with a few cosmetic human genes to blend in, so they're inhuman >Chaos tainted humansso they're inhuman>Aliencommon origin with mankind, they had a common ancestor and a common maker
>>98584071>>98583956This is not /his/
>>98584090Wargaming is born from historicals and 40k is heavily inspired by real world history, there's nothing wrong with the occasional history discussion as it pertains to wars which influenced this setting.
I know it's to be stable on the base but every single model has its legs opened really wide
>>98584089Hot
>>98584089I need a large breasted, bronze skinned, redheaded Amazonian goddess to let me lick her taut tummy. Life isn’t fair.
>>98584089Its good that female custodians exists
>>98584117Careful some anon will claim she’s actually a dude for some reason
Eldar Warlocks: with or without tactical rocks?
>brothers, to partake in our crusade is to be immortal
Stop sexing xenos. Sex Men of Iron instead.
>>98584126the emperor is a man
>>985841012 of the poses in the SoB box have their legs very close in a walking pose, and one of them only has one foot on the base4 of the poses in the Cadians box are in a "running" pose, their legs are close together and 3/4 of them have only one foot on the base, with the last one having a splash of mud as part of the sculpt attached to it's forward-stepping foot.That's just off the top of my headHave you tried not playing Space Marines?
>>98584137Perhaps.But what is a man?
>>98584088>they look like dwarfsWhich look like humans >dwarfsNot fantasy >they're xenos with a few cosmetic human genes to blend inXenos tainted humans and xenos human hybrids. >so they're inhumanThey retain human characteristics and origins, so no. >common origin with mankindTheir origin is mankind
>>98584142XY chromosomes
>they discontinued my favorite ork head supply (savage orcs)>they discontinued the best infantry (krieg resin)>they discontinued all the space marine stuff that doesn't look like gi joe toys (dreads, tacs, devs, etc)I have nothing left. They hate me personally.
>>98584152Well if they have huge tits, a supple stomach, and a vagina, then I guess I’m happily a faggot.
>>98584158must be hard being a redditor
>>98584142A miserable little pile of secrets! But enough talk HAVE AT YOU!
>>98584137Why her saints are women with big tits and breedable hips then?
>>98584117Don't anon. They're heavy due to the muscle.
>>98584168good morning sar
>>98584142Please don't throw any glass at me
>>98584168because they aren't the emperor
>>98584169Please stop, I can only get so erect
>>98584150>Which look like humansif they did, they wouldn't look like dwarfs being dwarfs make them nonhuman being tainted makes someone nonhumanhaving a distant common origin is not enough to be humanbeastmen are nonhumangenehybrids are nonhumanelves are nonhumanmutants are nonhumandwarfs are nonhumanyou, and niggers like you, are nonhuman
>>98584164Kek
I got one of those ultra cheap lightboxes, it's a piece of shit but I guess it works. I paid about $7 something for it so can't really complain, but I should add a lot of baking sheet to diffuse the light. It's also super small so I couldn't even fit in 5 atalan jackals in it.
>>98583959>genestealers are humansGenestealers aren't human, they are aliens with some human DNA that are mimicking humans, it's the reason why 4th generation hybrids give birth to 100% purestrain genestealers.GSC are all genetically aliens first and foremost.
>>98584089>>98584169I’m into this fetish. Need this. My 40k army is the imperial guard. I sometimes wonder what the most popular fetish is among autists of certain warhammer 40k factions.
>>98584089SEXOOO
>>98584142You tell me, Vlad Tepesh.
>>98584196>mutants are nonhumanThe Imperium disagrees with you, since the whole "abhuman" category exists and welcomes Ogryns, Ratlings and Necromunda Squats (who are just Votann when you get down to it) as "close enough" to not be considered xenos.If Squats are sanctioned abhumans, it's a matter of bureaucracy that the Votann proper are considered xenos.>>98584207Why do you want to know what random men's fetishes are?My main armies are Guard and SoB, my favorite is /ss/
>>98584203It's alright though, I'd recommend it for anyone who wants to take decent photos of their minis even when using phones. Getting a very small tripod for the phones would also work great. I did some focus stacking for this one so you can see the shitty paintwork in greater detail.
>>98584227abhumans are nonhumans or they would be called humans instead of abhumans
>>98584251Do you not know what ab- means as a prefix for a word?It means "slightly wrong." If they were NOT human, they'd be called "nonhuman," but they are called "abhuman," indicating they are human, but "slightly wrong." "Abnormal humans" are still humans, ergo abhumans.Knowing what words and their parts each mean is very useful when arguing technicalities and definitions.
>>98584265Yeah well you’re absexual LMAOI like orkz
>>98584265>Do you not know what ab- means as a prefix for a word? It means "slightly wrong."Ab means “from”, retard. From the latin word “ab” of a similar meaning.
>>98584207Yes everything is connected
>>98584318>space wolves>sub saharan africaLmfao
“Baseline” humans are genetically engineered too in 40k. The gene pool got gigaraped during the daot
>>98584318Indian hands made that chart.
>>98584318holy mother of AI slop
>>98584265That's not at all what ab indicates lmao. Where did you even get that idea from?
>>98584316What does the phrase "away from" mean?What is something when it is "away from" normal?
>>98584330That part of the analysis is the weakest and I'd like the input on how to move the regions around.The rest I'm pretty pleased about.
>>98584338I don’t care about your dumbass debate just pointing out that you said something wrong and stupid
>>98583597>you will find that stormcasts failed to be space marinesIf all AoS armies had equal populairty they would all be at about 3% of the field. Stormcast are at 15%.If you add Chaos Warriros who are jsut evil dudes in armor that's 25% of the whole game to pouldroncore armorslop
>>98584318This image is slop.
>>98584338>>98584343Notice the sneaky shift from “from” to “away from”Debatebros really are gross
>lorefaggots
>>98584343>no, don't re-explain things in different words to show that I am wrong!!!
>>98584331I wonder how they manage the baseline gene pool as well as the language and how even the poorest slaves who have never seen any sun or get more than 4 nights of sleep per night still know about the emperor
>>98582859With my Mantis warriors I said fuck rowboat and didnt do blue; I prefer it or minimal.
>>98584318permanent means permanent
>lorefags
>>98584265>>98584316>>98584338honestly, I don’t see why you guys are bringing up definitions of words, or some weird philosophical debate. why not just post actual excerpts from books. surely there’s somewhere that states whether the imperium at large believes them to be human or not.
>>98584265They're not human, that's why they need a different word in the first place.You have no leg to stand on.
Gambit
>>98584169
>>98584369>Noooo I don't want to read!!!Then shup up and stay in you lane
>>98584402I don’t even know who this guy is. why do you keep posting him? is this a destiny/votann thing?
>>98584415Im pretty sure its from call of duty. Or apex legends?
Bedfag newpainter here, painting some more minis right now. I ditched the Apple Barrel paints and have to wait like a week for the Vallejo ones, right now I'm doing all metallic paints because they're a different brand (FolkArt) and seem a little higher quality. Just a couple questions: I'm thinning them a lot, but they still seem kinda gunky when they dry, is that normal? Also, does a lot of the thinner "vanish" when it dries? Like, some of the areas that I covered, I think I used too much, but then when it dries, it actually made a decent layer and the details still show through well. I'm gonna go paint for like an hour, but I'll read your replies when I get back. As always, any help or tips would be greatly appreciated.
>>98584318>Death Guard>IndiaIt checks out.
dwarves vs humans bros, its an unsolved problem in real life, not gonna be fixed in warhammer lol.
>>98584335Worse, some AI fag had his clanker shit it out
>>98584430it's not a problem
>biggers are acting uppity againKneecap 'em faggots
>>98584443same difference
Of all the traitor marine legions, which legion had the most reason to go traitor? Was it the Iron Warriors?
>>98584430>AIslop
>>98584407There was a guy in my group of friends that was an ugly fat bald nerd.But turns out he was a magnet for a type of right wing chicks seeking to be treated like whores in bed by ugly men.He banged a dozen of them before he stopped. He wanted true love and they were using him as a kink.He told us this 100% seriously and almost sobbing, not realizing that he living a porn movie IRL. Ultimately he left our group after I mocked his kitbashed necron flayed ones with small strips of fabric. I said they looked like they were covered in fried bacon instead of flesh.
>>98584460World Eaters.All the others were greedy or prideful idiots.Even if they went full retards, both Angron and the WE were genuinely wronged by the Emperor.
>>98584460IW are one of the legions who had the least reason to go traitor.Most of the IW fucking hated Pert and would've wanted to see that cunt hanged. So when Pert went traitor many of them did stay loyal or at least didn't join him in his retardation and fucked off to do their own thing.
>>98583847>>98583897>>98583959mechanicus 2 has the tech priests discuss this a lot because they themselves can't decide whether to count them as abhuman or xenos before deciding they're xenos as an excuse to attack them and try to steal their tech the actual answer to the votann question is >whatever is most convenient to the current situation
>>98584480>World Eaters.WE only became traitors because the legion captains (mainly Kharn) went full retard and thought that showing rusty nails into their brain would be a good idea and would make their Dad love them more. (It in fact did NOT make Angron love them more)They turned into traitors purely because they all basically devolved into murderhobos and didn't care anymore.
>>98584460I actually want to hear a lorefag give a well-reasoned, non-contrarian answer to this but this gen will probably tell me to go ask AI.>>98584471why are nerds so fragile
>>98584318>>98584335Same vibe
currently listening to pic. Been pretty great so far; almost on par as The Infinite & Divine.
>>98584500Yes, but a defective Primarch was forced on them. At no point the Emperor made a move to stop Angron.In the end, Angron and the WE found common ground in their shared grievance.Angron didn't like to backstab his loyalist marines, and went down to Isstvan III to kill them face to face. They became rabid murderers, sure. But it wasn't out of pride or greed like the others.
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98584460I really think Iron Warriors is up there to have gone traitor. They really did get the incredibly shit jobs even by Space Marine standards. I think Perturabo doing decimations and what not is full retard for sure. But that doesn't mean the Iron Warriors weren't treated poorly. A "Thank you" from the emperor would have gone a long way for doing some of the most aids jobs in the Imperium. Am I bias though because I am an Iron Warrior fan?
>>98584399does that make him abhuman or not human?
>>98584460Night lords maybe?Also world eatersBoth primarchs got a very shitty start and went insane for entirely justifiable reasons
>>98584533>Am I bias though because I am an Iron Warrior fan?Yes, that cope is that Perty parroted.In reality he chose everytime the most difficult way to conquer shit out of pride without giving a shit about casualties.Including sacrificing so many army regiments that ultimately normie humans began avoiding the IW. And let's not forget that Horus was warmaster in charge of the Great Crusade. The emperor wasn't actually giving tasks to Perty.Just like the rebellion of his home planet that broke them, Olympia, was actually engineered by the Word Bearers. Perty was a manipulated idiot unable to recognize his own faults or who was pulling the strings.
>>98584533>A "Thank you" from the emperor would have gone a long way for doing some of the most aids jobs in the ImperiumOnly reason why the IW were even doing the most AIDS jobs imaginable was because Perturabo was fucking retarded and insisted upon it himself.AND he did all of them in the most retarded manner possible by using tactics that deliberately caused mass casualties.No shit the Emperor isn't going to congratulate you when you act like complete fucking retard that intentionally chooses the hardest ass cancer jobs, then uses the worst fucking strategies and tactics to "win" those fucking ass cancer jobs that result in like 70% mass casualties on your own side.
>>98584471>He wanted true love and they were using him as a kink.
how is the 11th edition so farhas is gotten more players into the hobby or driven old ones into older editionsserious question btw
>>98584576I've been enjoying it a lot more than 10th so far.Not the biggest fan of pre-made terrain maps, but my mates and I have just been loosely following them and it's still working out.
>>98584576Better than 10thSo, only the second worst edition to ever exist in nearly 40 years
>>98584576/tg/ might say they are driven into an older edition but thats very rare from what ive seen. The community generally really likes the constant points/rules updates. GW are still greedy bastards but the game is in the most playable state its ever been. The biggest criticism of GW is likely that they tend to balance rules and points for highly competitive play rather than the average player.
>>98584318>europe is dex when they had dudes running around in full plate, english longbowmen that had deformed arms from drawing such heavy weight bows, and other dudes running around with giant swords for fun.>asia is str when japan is known everywhere for the katana which is a dex weapon in every soulsborne game, archery spam>int being used in any capacity being attributed to india.the more I look the worse it gets. this has to be an elaborate shitpost, at least switch asia and europe.
>>98584598>but the game is in the most playable state its ever beenLol lmfao
Why did we let tourney fags take over the game?
>>98584576it's more 10th10th isn't litteral agony to play, I just wish there were less fucking invuln saves on fucking everything
>>98584634it's all your fault in particular anon
>>98584634"We" didn't do anything, it was entirely on GW.
>>98584610>this has to be an elaborate shitpostIt's AI slop, bro.
>>98584634GW higher-ups hired them to be designers after they drove away all the people with SOVL who made the franchise successful in the first place and realized that WAACniggers paypig hard if you just release units with broken rules and then nerf them later with constant churn.
>>98582865we dont want ritual posters involved with our faction ty
>>98584533perturabo is a very specific kind of autist i've met irl and i heavily suspect the writers modeled him after That Guys they knew irl scenes involving him always get under my skin
>>98584598>The biggest criticism of GW is likely that they tend to balance rules and points for highly competitive play rather than the average player.The game since late 8th is cancer for casual players like me. The core rules are usually okay. But the army rules are a cognitive nightmare. Layers and layers of overlapping rule combos, gotchas and constant balance changes. The random formatting and lawyer-like wording do not help.It seems a game made for autists without a life. I doubt kids are playing it today like I did as a teenager in the 90s
retard question - can I use acryllic solvent to clean the airbrush? like not a branded thinner medium, airflow improver or something akin to that
>>98584634I ain't saying this to convert anyone because it wouldn't work anyway but right now I'm enjoying Old World and taking a break from 40k because these preplanned terrain setups are so fucking boring and I don't like this push to try and turn my mini dice rolling game into some fucking sport with lame ass team jerseys. I saw this same shit happen with Warmahordes, tourneyfags suck all the life out of a game in their quest for balance. Old World is comfy.
>>98584664It's crazy that we sometimes get giga-autists here who defend the completely unnatural soulless lawyer-fagging rules syntax that GW uses now, too. They've got to be the same kind of freaks that get into programming and speedrunning video games and then troon out.
>>98584227Curiosity is a powerful thing. Oddly enough I wonder if anybody really has brought a coomer printed 40k army and recorded the reactions of typical lgs goers. Probably just dumb grins and laughs like how some wear ahegao shirts in real life.>spoilerMy love for taller muscular women has led me to those. I think I like that genre. But I mostly focus on the ladies and self I sent as the man.>>98584471I guess there is hope for everyone but man I wish I was lucky.>>98584574>that pic same hopefully we’ll all make it bros.
>>98584675>like how some wear ahegao shirts in real lifeThat's usually a low effort ironic shitpost. Printing up and painting an entire army of coomer models is not something someone does for irony purposes.
>>98584675>I mostly focus on the ladies and self I sent as the manThat's the point, you're supposed to self-insert.
>>98584610>Talking about warfare>Give India its own section>Ignore North America entirelyI tragically feel that it's earnestly made (with AI)
>>98584673I got weird questions about this tourney chasing thing.Can a tourney game be fun and good if done right or do tourneyfags always ruin even the best and most fun rules?Could tourneyfaggery have increased dramatically in 40k when privateer press messed up big time and their player base returned to 40k?Is there any way to calculate the tourneyfag percentage compared to the casual majority of the casuals are a majority and then take into consideration money spent meta-chasing? I think tourneyfags spend a lot more than casuals but I am unsure if they outspend the casuals entirely.
>>98584533>people treat me like I'm retarded after I go out of my way to do things in the most retarded way possible how could this happen to meI can't believe there are Iron Warriors who still follow this stupid faggot after the heresy
tournaments are not a big dealtaking part of them in any spirit besides it being a full-throated roleplay tournament is hecking gay40k remains a role playing wargame first and foremost
>>98584207i collect drukhari, tau and necrons i'm into extreme bpd women
>>98584692The may spend more as a smaller group but the main thing is they're just fucking vocal. Like in politics, small but motivated interest groups can lobby for things because the rest of the community is disorganized and largely silent. Same thing here.
>>98584664>>98584674so what you are saying is the new edition is really newbie friendly but planned so that it will eventually drive them into waacfaggotryis there any room for good times or normal games then
supposed to be a cityscape with ruined buildingsGIANT DIAGONAL OPPOSING TERRAIN IN THE CENTERpisses me off every time
>Infinite Perturabo slander in this threadUHHH IW BROS?! ARE WE RETARDED?
>>98584711>is there any room for good times or normal games thenYes, but you need to ignore many rules and basically homebrew a gentleman agreement.That works among friends, but not playing with randos (luckily I don't have to suffer that)
>>98584714no no no it's cool it's a nondescript gangbang rape alley every time and that's super grim and dark
>>98584460Night Lords. They’d learn the truth of the chaos gods and use them to spread terror and a good number would go too far and fall to chaos.>>98584533>>98584561What were the iron warriors like before perts took charge and starting rusting them to the point of snapping?I think they were meant to be a Greek tragedy of good soldiers but terrible leaders screwing them over.
when are we going to get a Russ model? hes planning on returning, r-right?
>>98584661You gotta drop the stories. Even multi post stories please.I remember the Iron Tard. Those were good. Hopefully he changed gears and fixed himself.
>>98584725The current Russ model came out in 2009 and was repackaged in 2019 with both variants able to be built out of the same kit.
I think black legion are really cool, but Abaddon's stupid fucking haircut puts me off collecting them
>>98584719I like perty and iw more because I like hazard stripes and utilitarian gunmetal.Also I like the autism jokes about them.And Perty is literally me because he is an autistic stretched cable about to snap.So I looked at perts and thought about ways to maybe not be like him.Funnily enough a IW short story with Honsou playing wargames with Papa Pert has shown that Perty may have matured a bit. A little late but still matured. I do think Perty was one of the most inconsistently written Primarchs.
>>98584730If you can't love the topknots you can't love the Sons of Horus.
>>98584750ponytails are for horuses- I mean horses
>>98584704That may be why they have so much influence over warhammer 40k rules.Sometimes I wonder if AI can generate a better warhammer 40k set of rules. Might be more fun than what gw is putting out in catering to tourneyfags.Maybe it is the influencer mini painters that allegedly ruined Vallejo with bubbling and allegedly had the reformulated p3 paints changed to a worse bottle.Allegedly. I hope Vallejo fixed the problem of their paints being too easy to leave bubbles.>>98584701BPDemons are not worth it. And they can’t comprehend being wrong ever. My abusive mom probably had it and I probably have it too.
One of the funniest things Perturabo did in the HH was take a "perfect" hammer with him into his personal forge and spent days on meticulously altering it to be objectively worse.
Is Perturabo confirmed Daemon Prince? I thought the Iron Warriors didn't really fuck with demons like that? Or if he is a Daemon Prince, did he do it for some specific reason? I thought Pert got mortally wounded at some point.
>>98584724>What were the iron warriors like before perts took charge and starting rusting them to the point of snapping?AFAIK, there's no lore about it except in the FW Black Book Extermination, see here in page 104: https://gofile.io/d/ytkz2mmR
>>98584758>BPDemons are not worth it. i knowbut i'm bored and they keep life funny>And they can’t comprehend being wrong everi knowi once pointed out to one how they never apologised for anything and she lost her shit
>>98584770>I thought the Iron Warriors didn't really fuck with demons like that?fanfic
>>98584764Holy fucking kek, now this is narrative rules-writing
ork bros, our codex will come out, something will be broken and it will get nerfed in a months time wont it?
>>98584730this image goes hard
>>98584758>BPDemons are not worth itBut they grip SO tight...
>>98584787I'm calling the Dakkarig will be powered down.
>>98584730Good fanart by someone who isn't Mossa for once? Shit
>>98584719At least it's not the pedo slander hitting Ushoran in Fantasy/AoS
>>98584805>Fantasy/AoSNo one gives a shit about that here
Actually really truthful moral high ground faction coming through
>>98584812>Clown Lords
>>98584815My lord has his quirks but he's an alright, stand up guy. I trust him.
>>98584805>yeah he might be a batshit insane cannibal monster from a medieval world but he would NEVER fuck a preteen
>>98584812>gooner lordsshiggy
How do we fix fortifications?This is a 100 point model
It infuriates me that I can’t have tzaangors in csm, the one good thing thousand sons have. Why can’t gw just combine all the chaos shit together again and have a big soup army?
>>98584842You make them free.
>>98584831>has>ishe got his shit blown smoov off
any recommendations for what new audiobooks to listeni like chaos
>>98584770>>98584784I think he is but whether he really wanted to be a daemon primarch or did it to “save” himself or autism moment lapse in judgement is up in the air unless I missed something.I always thought iron warriors are chaos space marines in denial of it through using chaos because they have to have an edge but hate doing it.Did the Reign of Iron confirm IW hate chaos and keep it minimal or do they embrace it willingly instead of begrudgingly?>>98584778Thank you anon.>pdfC-can you please dump your forgeworld book collection hh and all p-please?
>>98584869im sick of hearing that word from you tsonsfags
>>98584764How did the Blood Ravens get it anyway?
>>98584842You stop playing tenleventh slop
>>98584076There’s a lot of haters for one page rules lately probably not as justified as trench crusade depending on who you ask.But I wonder if the renegades (kill team alternative) is a good replacement. Seems free like the other two.
>>98584894They're all in archive.org, just seach in google for Horus Heresy book xxxxx pdf
>>98582829>deep enough>40k
>>98584076Because OPR is worthless and shilled by annoying furfags and jeets, look at this garbage. And the creator goes anonymous on /tg/ and pretends to not know anything and ask people about OPR and then samefag his own posts with cringe infomercial cocksuckage to astroturf, and will attack literally any other alternative wargame to GW besides his own shit.>please saaar pay 5 dollar buy our expanded rules very value!>do not redeem other games!Makes my fucking skin crawl.
https://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/NFWK5r8 my list
marine bros we are overdue for more releases
Late night wipYou guys working on anything?
>>98584970why are you posting them here
>>98584975To have some discussion in the Warhammer fourty thousand general
>>98584815Curze was literally fucking insane so yeah its not surprising that his actions weren’t always perfectly sound lol
>>98584970Working on my Armageddon Warboss currently.
>>98584970>>98584985>>98585012There's an entire general for you modelfags its called /wip/, we only discuss lore here
>>98584985>To have some discussion in the Warhammer fourty thousand generalwhy would you do that or are you new here
>>98584950Alright then.How about what was said at >>98584926 about renegades wargame? Seems free like the other two games but renegades looks like an alt for kill team instead of 40k with vehicles. I only skimmed.The pricing stuff looks optional like a “donation with stuff included” if that makes sense.
>>98584970Nope. Just browsing r/grimdank and jerking my tiny white pecker to whiteboi beatdowns
>>98585019Models are a core part of warhammer 40k.Complaining about seeing models in any 40k forum is like going to a forest and complaining that there are trees anon.Or about sand at a beach. Or going to America and complaining about there being fatties. Or /40kg/ and autists/retards.
>>98584970Yes. My shit still looks like shit, though slightly less shit because the metallic pains I bought are slightly higher quality than Apple Barrel. I still can't tell if my paints are too thick or too thin. Also, pretty sure I went too heavy on the ones I did with black primer, because it's all spongey and it's still coming off on my hands even though it's been dry for like 3 days.I keep going over the parts I want silver with silver, but it's just mixing with the gold or not showing up at all. Fuck it. I'm going back to painting.
>>98585032Dont care, off to /wip/ with ye
Anybody got games planned this weekend?I probably wont be able to, maybe next weekend
Any C&C on this doubles list?
>>98585033Too thickDilute downDo multiple coats if necessary, but first thin your paints more
>>98585022>RenegadesJust googled it, looks cool to me. Anything that's free rules that isn't being shilled dishonestly like OPR should be fair game to include in the OP.
>>98585025>r/grimdankPlace was always a containment for meme making kids/autists but has it gotten worse?Seems like an “updoot farm” for lack of a better term as the stuff doesn’t make me laugh and everything feels “corporate approved” for lack of a better term.Has it gotten worse and what is its culture more like now?
>>98585037Either gonna play some 40k, or another system like SWlegion of bloodbowl.
>>98585045When did opr go beyond donations and stls to support the creator?
>>98585037>gamesfags>modelfags>paintfagsWhen will it end?
>>98585033I'd just grab a metallic spray to prime with, anon. You'll save a ton of time and effort.
>>98585046>has it gotten worse?It's fucking REDDIT, you nigger, everything on that website has always been shitAre we really at such a point that anons are just openly admitting to being faggot redditors with zero shame?
>>98585043I'd tell the daemons player to go kill themselves
>>98585056They try to sell people their expansion DLC rules and now they're putting out some boxed starter game with horrendously shitty models. Buy a fucking ad.
LE ECKS DEE XD I LIKE ORKS :DDD
>>98585071Me too!
>>98585032this general is for shitpostingi mean im here drunk off my ass lecturing some underage anon where to post his shit at 3am
>>98585062Sometimes it is impressive how terrible things get worse anon.Especially when it comes to things one shares an interest with like warhammer 40k.I use Reddit for porn. Mostly hentai reuploads and seeing naked adult women.I know Reddit has been terrible because it’s upvote system stifles genuine opinions being made and volunteer mods are always power tripping losers and there is a janny cabal on Reddit supposedly.I am just wondering how it managed to get worse and in what ways.But I can’t use the old site to look at hentai now without an account so I’m sad.
>>98584869Why not run them as fellgor ravagers
The Imperium is morally correct and if you disagree you're a communist
>>98585079There are so many other places to find porn if you really want to waste your time like that, you don't need reddit. The only thing reddit is ever good for is googling a very specific question and finding some archived reddit post from 8 years ago where someone figured it out for you.
>>98585068>dlc rules>shitty board game modelsI guess indie devs all eventually abandon principle when their success earns them pretty profit.It isn’t a case of it but when nowadays right?>buy a fucking asI’m not shilling opr. I had opr on my radar but never got into it because I never found players into it. I did buy the core rules to support the creator a few years ago. That’s it.But I am curious as to how bad things have gotten. If my money is wasted at least it wasn’t my life savings into a shitcoin is how I will cope.
>>98585088Fair enough.>answers Yeah that’s the other one. AI answers usually recycle plebbit answers.I wonder if it is recycling 40k fake lore parroted a lot on Reddit and would love debunks especially if they hurt the biggest fans of the fake lore.Like how I learned that supposedly infantry guard are separated from armored regiments in power curtailment like how the legions got broken into chapters.
>>98584926>There’s a lot of haters for one page rules latelywhere? on 4chan? Its literally the same poster across multiple threads. In real life there is some healthy disagreement about rules changes and them not archiving the old rule sets if you want to play them instead but thats about it.
>>98585066I guess we're doing something right.
>>98584970i finished up assembling all of my stealth teamsxv-20s or somesuch, surely
>>98585102There's definitely more than one
>>98585102Given the nature of this site it could be both because both are bad.I’m not saying you aren’t wrong.I’m saying you’re right and the other guy too because both ways are bad.
This webm will make anon unhappy.
>>98585112When is this game coming out? I see people playing campaign mode or something already, do they have a demo or a beta?
>>985851162027. It's a closed Alpha with a Beta coming soon(?)
>>98585080But the disc riders
>>98585102>the one posterMEDS NOW
>>98584610What do you think about the groups of legions though?>>98584691North America is like the Ultima segmentum
>>98584970Still building, haven't glued onto bases since I'd like to give them something fancier than just armageddon dustHaven't decided on colours yet, white for dawn of war, red maybe to match my ravens or maybe black and purple robes
>>98585102>OPR shill is a schizo tooLMAO
So if Orks points went up by about 15% what are we expecting for Space Marines? About the same?
>>98585112Never played a total war is it good?
>>98585167Orks use Zerg wave tactics, they're not like marines.
>>98585167ORKS MENTIONED XD XDXD
>>98584970primed the dark eldar i had assembled so far but still idk what color scheme to go for
>>98585168The Total War general at /vg/ is severely lacking in optimism, which is saying a lot because they're even less optimistic than usual.
If cawl shat out a bunch of primaris space marines, that makes sense, they could have been in stasis for 10k years and now they're available like gulliman. But how did he also shit out a huge navy to kill all those tyranid space organisms at Baal?You can hide hundreds of thousands of space marines, how do you hide a huge navy?
>>98585168Dawn of War series is better than Total War. But Total War is the only game in town for getting proper rank and file and organization scale.
>>98584460Night lords and world eaters. They're both criminals from the start.Nobody else had any reason to. Not even death guard, they hated chaos.
>>98584894Their obsession with mechanical stuff is on the level of the iron hands, but when you add Chaos you get infected by the destroyer virus.
>>98584970Getting through skin tones on some boyz, also I polished off the bomb squig from my Kommandos.
>>98585211nice to see them varied
>>98585211Why can't nonorks use their blasters?
>>98585211do you paint different skin tones across your orks?
>>98585215Thanks.>>98585216I'm assuming you mean why do other armies not get a primary firearm in addition to a melee weapon and pistol? Beats me, I think it's something that should have happened to every army's core troops where it makes sense, several editions ago.>>98585230Something new I'm trying out with the 11th edition releases. I've done it before in other projects but not with my Orks. Several new things I'm doing, actually, new metallics recipes, more basing details, and having more variation in the army scheme colors (fabrics and leathers are duller, with the bright blue and yellow reserved for painted metallics). For contrast, compare to these guys.
>>98585044IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THAT IT'S TOO THICK I THINNED IT DOWN SO MUCH THAT IT BARELY SHOWS UP WHEN I PUT IT ON REEEE>>98585058I got black, white and gray primer, and I like white the best so far. The colors show up way better, and the black primer seems like it's very porous, though it's entirely possible that I just put too much on because it was my first time.
Do these look cool or are they too much? £20 so cheaper than the leviathan sternguard
>>98584970close to done with these goremongersI made 3 aspirants for some fucking reason so I have to use some spare jackal bits for a bloodtaker
All of this ork poating makes me wanna paint more orks XD
>>98583596I hate to see her goBut I love to watch her leave
i feel really tempted to buy the combat patrol terrain set since i only play small games with friendsi looked into printing and it'd cost mostly the same my time is somewhat limited as is and i don't want to spend it putting cardboard together since i feel like it'd take a long while to get something similarbigger problem is that i'm tempted to go even further and get the set that also comes with 2 combat patrols
>>98584480Absolutely not, Ghenna proves that there was no real justification. Angron is one of the LEAST justified traitor primarchs
>>98585196Same way Palpatine did it. With bad writing.
>>98585313But this isn't high fantasy
>>98585317It's Science Fantasy, just like the Star War
>>98584318Are word bearers educated in economics?
>>98585196>how do you hide a huge navyhttps://youtu.be/e3XdWZi6oRY?t=95&si=UyaESdSyBlo_q7juIn realspace. Space is pretty big anon.I hope the link starts at 1:35
>>98585335Does religious slavery count?
>>98585299I don't understand WH40K terrain. They don't interact with the minis in any special way. They are dead simple shapes like walls and L corners. They don't store away compact and take up and room. You can make a complete functional equivalent from a trash cardboard box and any glue you have laying around instead of spending an eye watering $170.
Gonna give my Cadian Castellan a power fist and a plasma gun.How do I get over paranoia of fucking up assembly? I want to build my command squad and Kasrkins but I'm scared I'm going to fuck it up
>>98585407Same reason we paint our minis
>>98585417I'd be a lot less scared if I bought glue with an applicator and quality clippers
>>98585417You can dry fit to see how they fit together before applying your cement if you're really afraid.The only way you can truly fuck up is if you destroy the parts, which can only happen during the removal from the sprue or trimming of excess or mould lines. All I can say to that is "be more careful and use the correct tools for the job."I bought a set of side-cuts from a hardware store for like $6 in a set with needle-nose pliers and I had an x-acto knife already. Those are "the correct tools."
>>98584770The Iron Warriors are pragmatists, and while they generally may dislike or even hate Chaos and sorcery, most of them recognize the power Chaos grants as another tool and variable to try and bend to their purposes; even if a particular Marine would personally not fuck with the gods. That attitude is hardly a hinderance to corruption.
>>98585419$2 dollar mini paints up just as well as a GW $9 mini. The GW terrain literally does nothing and is more expensive.
>>98585417You can also use a bit of clay to pose stuff beforehand. Don't forget to clean the spot after though.
>>98585196>But how did he also shit out a huge navy to kill all those tyranid space organisms at Baal?The nid fleet at Baal all got sucked into the Warp dude.
>>98585439Idk about that one.
>>98585252The sternguard bits are probably worth the £20, hopefully he superglued them to whatever the legs are. The biggest problem is that if you don't have the rest of the sternguard models they'll look pretty bare on regular legs. But with how much eBay sellers want for sternguard it's tough
Why are Space Marines the main faction when they are completely irrelevant because of how few there are. Like if you are an Ork fighting the Imperium you are 100K more likely to fight against a Baneblade than against a Space Marine.
>>98585516It's made with black templar crusader and intercessor bits, I'd be using them as sternguard though
>>98585521*because of how few of them there areI gotta go to sleep clearly
>>98585521>Why are Space Marines the main factionbecause they're the humans and the game is made by humans
>>98585469none of these functionally do anything besides act as a wall. Even worse because they barely block any line of sight compared to a generic solid wall that could cover an entire unit.
>>98585530Why isn't the Imperial Guard then the main faction. Lore wise Space Marines should be completely irrelevant since there's only 1 million of them. There's 100s of trillions if not quadrillions of Imperial guardsmen on the other hand.
>>98585534because guard are lame as fuck
>>98585524Pauldrons helmets and power packs are from the sternguard box, as well as the guns. I think the only arm that's potentially not from the sternguard box is the two finger pointing one on the sergeant but that sword is definitely a sternguard bit.
>>98585538nuh uh
>>98585524>>98585544Oh no nevermind, the hands are sternguard the arms are intercessor
>>98585521Because the games you play are meant to be the important fights, not the random scraps, and the Marines are involved in about 10% of wars in the Imperium.
>>98585252>dat pauldron placement
>>98585555astartes pauldrons are highly articulated and shift about relatively freely to accommodate the motion of the wearer's arms
>>98585552Complete hogwash. The battles played can range from historical stuff to low stakes, /yourdudes/ fighting /theirdudes/. It was never meant to be some sort of MEGA BATTLE IMPORTANT BONANZA!
>>98585521Like for every single Space Marine there's 1 billion Imperial Guardsmen. And unless Imperial Guard has basically zero tanks I would roughly estimate that for every Space Marine there's 100K Baneblades and around 2.5 million tanks in general.These guys are completely irrelevant in the story their numbers are way too low. But this is what happens when one of the numbers (1000 chapters of thousand space marines) was created to sell 40K Superfans whole Space Marine chapters. While shit like Terra having Quadrillions of people and Hive cities having 100 billion people per city were created by writers who wanted 40K to seem bigger, badder and grander than Star Wars.
>>98585561
>>98585555>>98585568Show me an example of a better placement, pauldrons put on any arm that is extended outwards like this fits like bullshit no matter what you do.
>>98584970Added the metallics to the breaka boyz finally
>>98585588>orkz:D
>>98585568auto-responsive shoulder plates
>>98585568He's right, and they're offset from the arm, the new terminators even have that modeled onto the arms themselves
>>98585588Nice. I feel weird about metallics, hopefully my mental illness about it subsides because I don't want to have to learn NMM
>>98585563>to low stakes, /yourdudes/ fighting /theirdudes/In which case neither of you need to be playing marines?
>>98584460>IWHonestly no reason, they dscimated Olympia + the IW's that second guessed decimating Olympia because they rebelled, then THEY joined Horus after he got corrupted. Only valid point i can give perty's pent up legion is they were doing the janitor's work without a single thank you for payment>NL'sDoing it for the bit is funny, but shit was a matter of inevitability, Konrad was going stupid so shit was inevitable>TSI'd argue they had the MOST reasons to go traitor, but this falls under the category where we talk about the legions and not their primarch. Magnus is a retard that was told to do nothing, and he did NOTHING wrong. Not their fault magnus and big e's retarded choices led to them getting buttfucked by the space furries>Sons of Horus, nay, Luna Wolves. No they had no reason to go traitor mode, they got screwed over by the Word Bearer's dickery. Similar deal with the Death Guard, they got screwed over by Typhus, Morty was bitter about Big E robbing him of his petty revenge act, but he's not perturabo-levels of petty bitterness, he would've gotten over it, but Stinky T fucked it all up>World EatersThey went traitor mode thanks to being retarded, yes daddy Angron i will install crayon eater nails to my brain to appease you instead of asking higher ups like Big E to heal Angron. A clear case of "would things have gone better for WE if X,Y,or Z thing happened?" potential>Alpha LegionProbably valid since Alpharius and Omegon were shown two accurate epilogues to the heresy. If the traitors wins, the galaxy burns, if the traitors lose, the galaxy still burns, just slowly and both were accurate gambles.>Word BearersThese shit stinkers were THE reason shit went south for the whole galaxy, fuck em, fuck erebus, fuck lorgar, fuck kor pharon. bunch of motherless bastards
>>98585588Iron Warriorks
>>98585616Loyalist /your dudes/ Space Marines vs Loyalist /their dudes/ Space Marines is still quite possible, either from the angle of an inter chapter training exercise to conflicting orders causing a stupid incident or even a planet that blocks long range communications causing a mistaken IFF firefight
>>98584460NLThey did what they were created to do, at no point the emperor told them to stop and change their ways. Then everyone gave them shit for doing their jobAlso the emperor knew about curze's affliction and did nothing to help himAlso when curze tried to warn people about the heresy Dorn tried to imprison him
>>98585646>instead of asking higher ups like Big E to heal Angron.Several people including angron asked him and his answer every time was "lol no"
>>98585646Angron already had the retard psychopath nails implanted into him well before he met big E, supposedly they were unable to tamper with them without killing angron in the process- but big E didnt care so much because he needed angron fighty anyways.
Y/NI should buy some good Vostroyan resin recasts. My reasons for yes>Have no gf or life or friends>Make enough money to cover the bills>Think they're the coolest thing evermy reasons for no>money wasted>will have to paint them after I finish my night lords>should be touching grass instead
>>98584812>Soroitas Ryona with Night Lords and not Word BearersSick pick but come on, the true rivalry of zealotry should be done with Word "the screaming wails of soroitas nailed to the ground getting eaten by bug demons is good music" Bearers
>>98585679sounds like a Y to me
>>98585533Was talking about the paints.
>>98585679You should do it because I like Vostroyans and bought the MTO like a sucker and more Vostroyans in the wild is a net boon on the world and imperial guard as a whole
>>98585689>>98585683>more Vostroyans in the wild is a net boon on the world and imperial guard as a wholeThat is a very convincing argument. I am also a fan of the imperial army aesthetic they have going on. Been gathering a little art board for them to help with future kitbashing, see pic rel. Slowly diving into some history books especially the Osprey ones to get some more visual inspiration. note it's resin recasts but the ones I've been eying seem to have good recasts that's even better than the metal ones.
>>98585665>>98585662In that case then World Eaters going traitor mode was valid, but sadly, even in that regard, they never had a choice when going into chaos mode. Lorgar more or less kicked them into the bloody pits of Khorne and turned Angron into a pitbull named princess
>>98585711>things men do instead of going to therapyand for that, I applaud you
>>98585646Even magnus knows he fucked up.But honestly space dad lore is so fucking stupid I don't blame you for creating your own head canon. (That's what I do)
>>98585689i did the same thing, but back when they were MTO in 2018ishIm really glad I did because the prices were insane this time around. I still bought some power sword HQs tho
>>98585711This is the good kind of autism, I kneel
>>98585728>bought the standard bearer for my middenheim project >figured could deal with the bionic eye.>get sculpt>giant ass fucking imperium insignia on the backFUCK
>>98585711based autism nigga
It may be the broke nigga in me speaking, but i never quite understand why or how GW designs armies around large hordes, but then makes everything that's small in said horde be buttfuckingly expensive.Like, logistically, the imperial guard should be a cheap army because you're deploying an army made up of soldiers whose brittle bones are made of glass and a single bit of sharpnel from a frag grenade that popped a mile away from them is enough to kill them, and yet the guard is among the most expensive armies in the game.
>>98585753the one force more powerful than The Emperor: the invisible hand of the free market
>>98585753By design, there's a reason why gw made custodes and knights playable factions.
>>98585753you're paying for the plastic kinda, even if the units are cheap on the tabletop.That being said, once you have your brick of goons it's gonna be like 20 years before they update them again.
>>98585722>>98585729>>98585743I guess it's autistic... but it is very fun however to find, organize and analyze why I like something and then try to combine them together. In this case I wanted to make offshoots of the vostroyan army from the established lore and Rebel Winter book (a good book btw) and then borrow elements from reality/history, so I've been digging through Imperial Russian/Cossack books to see how they do their insignias, weapons, etc. The tool is called frameref btw, I think another anon mentioned it in a porn board but I found it to be way more useful to help me categorize different things together. I've also tried Milanote (cloud-always, need subscription for pictures), and Visio (I use it to map out computer networks and flow processes in systems). >>98585728>>98585689Bla*k mar*et miniatures has better details at a fraction of a cost, but the problem is that they're russian recasters so your payment may not be cleared by the banks. Worth the risk I reckon. Recasters would be the best cost vs benefit in this case since I am only interested in borrowing elements from existing models, so a cape here, a little dude there..Anyway thanks for reading my blogpost
>>98585771>and Rebel Winter book (a good book btw)Agreed, that one was solid
>>98585767>once you have your brick of goons it's gonna be like 20 years before they update them again.I feel dread these days when i see Primaris units go to legends, so i just know GW will pull a yugioh on shit because that mentality of "we purge the old to sell you the new (which is more of the same)" is something i feel when looking at 40k
So, what's a squatproof spesh muhreen army like? 60 intercessors?
>>98585771i bought some off ebay after the initial run and im pretty sure some of it was pewter recasts (not in GW packaging, not with GW slotted bases) the thing is, the pewter recasts were visibly higher quality than what GW was sending out.I've always wondered if those guys were still out there making legit metal recasts somewhere.
>>98585781suppressors were in a weird spot because they were attached to a sprue with other things on it and they never received a multipart kit. Hammerfall bunker is kind of a one off too, I don't think we'll see many fortifications survive the next few editions.
>>98585777Definitely. Read like an action-packed CoD game, with a hint of inevitable action after action. Cool guys.>>98585784Interesting anon, would you have any comparison pictures? Always keen to see how other small companies produce their stuff compared to the big g man
>>98585783if I were to guess within 5-10 years the following units will become "official proxies":>judiciars as chaplains>apothecary biologis as an apothecary>bladeguard ancient as an ancientmy guess is based on the fact that these are all in sprues with other units from starter sets and currenty are GW webstore exclusives (tho you can get the honored of the chapter for cheap if you can find a dawn of war onslaught board game).
>>98585793no pics but some of the GW models had some morphing, some of the detail wasnt as crisp which can happen when a mould is starting to wear out (most were fine though.) with the suspected recasts, all the texture was crisp. the models had less of that white powrdery stuff as well. The metal was the same color, my guess is they were both pewter.
Anyone have a link to the scans of all the Arks of Omen books?
>>985857831st company. Everything Terminators and Land Raiders.
>>98582783Crazy that people kept saying Orks were bitching and gonna be OP and break the fucking game when their 11th codex comes out and telling me I was insane for bitching that Orks were secretly getting nerfed but I just took a look at some more leaks.They lost +1 strength and attacks during waaagh!s and being S5 base changes nothing for T3 armies and Marines are going to T5 so nothing will change. They also got a sizeable points nerf across the board of 15-20% for basically every unit. So they basically are gaining lethal hits and bumps in strength to deal with incoming increased marine toughness so they are still going to be wounding the same as before while also taking a points increase and gaining 0 increases to their own survivability and the heavy buffs to their shooting is because cover now gives -1 to BS and they already had 5+ BS so its basically a patch to ensure they arent hitting on 6s always. Ghaz looks strong but if your not taking him in a casual game nothing much is going to change for orks except for your things being slightly more killy and more expensive as a tradeoff.The only major outright buff is Warbosses giving 1 CP each turn if theyre your warlord and other weapon changes such as blast on torrent weapons but those are all very clearly general weapon and rule changes that will be given to each faction.Mark my words Orks might be pretty strong when the codex comes out due to power differences between 10th and 11th codexes but theyre going to quickly get powercrept to hell when the Marine codex drops and will be complete fucking shit for the rest of 11th. People also act like Orks currently are stupidly OP and unbeatable but they really havent made the game unbalanced to such a degree where it creeps into casual play like guard tank lists, imperial knights, eldar or custodes have and were fucking rock bottom awful the entirety of 10th. So I think people were overreacting.
>>98585753>buy 1-2 box of Ogryns/Bullgryns>buy AoS Ogors/Ogres>kitbash 18 Bullgryn>600+ points of the best unit in the Codex right there
>>98585849The first codex ALWAYS gets powercrept, I cannot think of an edition where this didn't happen... ever. So yeah. You're kinda fucked.
>>98585849So they stay the same against marines....but are now better against everyone who's not a marine?
Why does no one on 40kg play custodes?
>>98585868There are people who play custodes here howeverbeit
40karvo has been taken over by a funner game.
>>98585753I dont understand why GW also seems to hate the idea of actual horde armies in general. They constantly buff the stats of the 3 big horde armies in wierd ways to jack up the price such as making orks toughness 5 in 9th but then making them more expensive to the point where Tau with S5 guns and a 4+ save were cheaper than the Ork with a 6+ save. And in 10th/11th they have constantly been handing out price nerfs to Ork and Guard infantry. Tyranids and fucking Chaos cultists specifically seem to be the only army immune to this despite getting some bumps in strength so their units arent table weights that do nothing.>>98585858I know but the insane bitching of people about the leaks and calling orks OP just seem so unjustified. Remember when they were showcasing the 10th rules before launch and everyone thought Orks were going to be overpowered because of the increased save and all the melee rules they showed off and then instead 10th launched with necrons being unkillable hordes, GSC summoning infinite units, Eldar devastating wound shenanigans and custodes being the actual melee gods of fighting before actual charging units fought, guard and knights being an army of unkillable vehicles that spammed indirect and towering to shoot you anywhere on the board?>>98585861No because non marines are T3 which is wounding the same despite them being S5, the only real change is [lethal hits] on lots of melee weapons but they got a 15-20% price increase to balance it out and the shooting weapons gained [lethal hits] because cover changes reduce their BS even more and several weapons such as big shoots went down in strength IE 5 to 4 because of lethal hits so mathmatically ork shooting is around the same effectiveness.
>>98585871cool I used to play Yu-Gi-Oh too
It's official.
>Got the ork vs marines starter pack for 11th edition>Hold out on buying models because I'm trying to print them out because I'm not a competfag made of money>My prints are failing or coming out like ass no matter what I do>Players are bitching that 11th edition is assDid I come in at the worst possible time
>>98585886No matter who you ask it is always the worst possible time. What really matters is playing with friends/people you tolerate at best
>>98585886The 11th core rules with 10th codexes is actually quite fun but the incoming codexes look horrid with special rule bloat and power creep and also most of the bitching is because GW just made almost every single non primaris marine kit and even some primaris kits and several ork buggies out of print and are going to send their rules to legends
>>98585884>new Warhammer SCANDAL just dropped it's WORSE THAN WORSE it's SO OVERI HATE THE ALGORITHM I HATE THE ALGORITHM I HATE THE ALGORITHM
>>98585886>my Ultramarine fell off the back of a van
Has anyone here read the novels in the Horus Heresy book series? If yes, what's your favorite book and favorite character?
>>98585890Speaking of which, what's the deal with Primaris? Was it an excuse to sell more?I wanted to go with the Blood Ravens but fuck man I don't even know where to start. Here's one of those marines from the starter kit.
>>98585900Idk ask /hhg/
>>98585873Genestealers are T4. A ton of mediums are T5 (warriors, raveners, leapers, etc). Carnifexes are T9.Orks can now more reliably chip at medium vehicles T8-9 (Goliaths, Armigers/War Dogs, Sentinels, Hippos, Tauroxes, Chimeras, Rhinos, etc)Necrons are T4/5.Tau suits are T5/4GSC are T4Votann are T5Orks pretty much got a 16% boost in wounding most non-marine stuff.
>>98585884>>98585894how many drama channels are there? i only know the Discourse tranny.
>>98585903>what's the deal with Primaris?It was a scale refresh on the miniatures to make them bigger and cooler, but they also tried to make lore justifying it in universe and also changed the armour design to a new mark and the lore they wrote was DOGSHIT so everyone got very, very upset about it.
>>98585919billions, literally billions
>>98585903Get some decals or a sharper brush, respectfully.
>>98585903hooray another blood ravens fag
>>98585886is this SLA? what sort of a machine are you using?
>>98585920I made my own fluff to explains primaris and even Guilliman returning. But when Lion came back I could no longer keep pretending
>>98586017I think that is unwise. The Primaris project isn't real, all marines are still just marines. Their heights in universe never changed, the miniatures just got bigger.
>>98585903looking back now with 20/20 hindsight it seems pretty clear that the primaris lore existed so that it could make sense in players heads why firstborn units were on the battlefield alongside newer rescaled units.There probably is no "good" way of making that make sense lorewise without people losing their minds.
>>98586019Oh I remembered. It's not actually Lion, people just think he is. They say he can be in multiple places at the same time because the Dark Angels descendants have several suits of old pattern armour, so their Grand Masters look similar, hence the multiple conflicting reports
>>98585995P1S because I really don't want to spill resin on my carpeted floors. >>98585904It's my second marine ever. I know I need better tools.
kitbashed and painted a lieutenant today
Second part of>>98586038Meant for>>98585943
>>98586038have you dried your filament recently?
>>98586045That was in a creality drier for 3 hours before but I could try shoving it in there for longer
>>98586039it's a good use of a spare emperors champion, looks good bro
>>98586047my little creality drier prescribes 5hrs at 50c for PLA on the provided pamphlet iirci'm not sure if that alone accounts for what you're encountering thoughmake sure everything's screwed in nice and snug? i'm really not sure where to start ;w;, you may want to go and bug r*bbit or the 3d printing thread with some examples of what's going on if all else fails
Imperial fist primaris intercessor (wip)>>98586039Haunted-ass mini but I bet your army looks great on table
>>98586039very charming simplicity to your schemes, but there's lots of detail where it countscool stuff!
>>98586060Guess ill continue the model reply chain with my yiff scout.Haven't decided what head so I'll leave it off for now.
>>98585753the funny part is, imperial guard is also the easiest to proxy and yet GW makes models cheaper that would be harder to proxy. I think its because they have internal stats and I am sure like most rpgs, the plurality of people just want to play humans.
>>98585915Realistically GW gave orks S5 because they were basically just worse world eaters and fucking sucked against those types of units because you had a couple swings of power klaws from your boss nob that really failed to effectively deal with anything armored or had to use expensive and suprisingly squishy nob and deff dread units that do a lot less than you would expect and vs armies like knights orks were completely fucked. They also could already do all that just only during a waaagh! its GWs way of trying to rectify orks being only able to kill shit in 1 turn of the game without resorting to having to use Ghaz or spamming meganobz like they have been. They also got rid of the extra attack during waaagh!s in addition to the point increases to keep it in line.
>>98584460Thousand Sons and it isnt even close, they got completely fucked over by basically everyone because their primarch was an arrogant retard.
>>98586104>because their primarch was an arrogant retard.*Because Leman can't read orders.
>>98586111>Order got changed by Horus >Never would've happened if Magnus wasn't retarded That's some mega cope there.
>>98585753GW used to have a few cost saving measures for guard specifically. Back in the day they had a cheap box of just like, 5 guardsmen with lasguns and nothing else for pretty cheap. I wanna say it was like 5GBP but I could be wrong on that. After that they had stuff like the Start Collecting boxes that were usually 10 infantry, an HQ and some support vehicle for half the price of a Combat Patrol box now. IIRC for guard they got 20 guardsmen in that box but I could be wrong. Anyway, over the years GW has been slowly chipping away at their more solid, cheaper introductory methods for getting into the game. They kinda just expect people to use Combat Patrol to get into 40k but that's still a steep buy-in and they're not always good for what someone wants to do with their army.
>>98586113>Order got changed by HorusThat's Lehman's excuse, the truth is Leman's illiterate.
>>98586120>peak denial True TSons fan, I respect it.
>>98586120regardless of the level of literacy of Leman Russ, none of this would have happened if Magnus didnt fuck up on a galactic level because of his arrogance, making a bad situation even worse making his sons, the people of Prospero, the people of Terra, and humanity itself have to pay the price for it. He is a colossal fuck up.
>>98586024>There probably is no "good" way of making that make sense lorewise without people losing their minds.Literally just say "it's a new mark of armor". They didn't need to write up a whole justification for why these new marines existed and replaced all the old ones - just say "yeah they made a new mark of armor".
>>98583413please see>>98582945>>98582967
>>98586139a new mark of armor doesn't explain the jarring difference in scaleno other model update ever had one so drastic
>>98586149The new terminators are fuck huge and no one cares.
>>98586149It's just a new scale of miniature. 40K is not truescale. You might be retarded
>>98586150the new terminators are also primaris
>>98586149Oh my god you scalefags are the WORST. A miniature going up in size by a couple of millimeters doesn't fucking matter.
>>98586152Missing the point completely. If scale creep was such a big issue there would've been complaints.
>>98586152wrong
>>98586152
>>98586154no my toys are actual soldiers that need to make perfect sense in size and exhibit no dissimilarities or i'll have an autistic fit and potentially hurt someone
>>98585881It's called summoners war, fun easy game.Hopefully we'll get a 40k game in at some point, but if I find my armada cards then it's boats for the rest of the weekend.
I love Tau!
>>98584970Collage entry ready for priming
>>98584460dont know. ask /hhg/
>>98586191You got two days, so good luck king
>>98586158But primaris marines are bigger. How the fuck would they fit in there? Yes there is lore about how terminator armor can be made a bit bigger to accommodate it's user but then why create the mark x armor in the first plac? Just re-release the marine kits that existed but a bit bigger.
>>98585116Everyone only is playing gamescom demoShilltubers have access to this same demo (and secret ones before), but don't have files either, CA just streams it to themThey are aiming for 2027 release, but there is meant to be beta "soon" to which people can get access if they sign up for it
just fyi for next month's collage i'm calling dibs on the idea of a dreadnought on a surfboarddo not steal
>>98586258But that was my idea.
So is Ork BigBoss now that he has +1 hit for unit, is support so can be ran with another character auto include?
>>98586154>by a couple of millimetersit was actually almost a whole centimeterthere was never an update so drastic
>>98585849>Crazy that people kept saying Orks were bitching and gonna be OP and break the fucking game when their 11th codex comes out and telling me I was insane for bitching that Orks were secretly getting nerfed but I just took a look at some more leaks.Well they're currently breaking the game so even a nerf doesn't necessarily mean they stop breaking it.
>>98586258If it ends up being joke/reference I will either not being doing anything or trying to find 3 intercessors to do oshi marines having an argument
>>98586269Imo put him with Breaka Boys or NobsHe also has precision and decent AP so he can potentially snipe enemy characters.
>>98586299Why do orks have precision characters? Keywords gone mad.
>>98586270It's still just a scale update and did not need lore
>>98586196>there is lore about how terminator armor can be made a bit biggerAll marine armor can be resized to make it fit an individual.Also terminator armor isn't lost technology to the Imperium or the Mechanicus, it's just very hard and resource intensive to make it.But there's also possibilities that terminator armor being "hard to make" is just bullshit and it's just the mechanicus intensionally keeping the stock of new terminator armor suits low to keep a shorter leash on marines.
>>98586301Idk it was weird, he had cleave previously, they replaced it with precision
>>98585580Do these shoulder pads count?
>>98586305It needed one because it was this drastic of a change, and one that took so long
Can I just run all tanks and blast stuff all day?
>>98586336Yeah man, you do you. It is obviously not the optimal way to play but it is definitely possible. Hull spam is usually considered bad manners among more casual groups though, even if it won't win a lot of games. People get a little salty if all of their small arms get invalidated against the enemy Army.
>>98586334What kind of stupidity is this, it absolutely did not need lore. They just went from ~1/80 to ~1/60, all they had to do was say "hey yeah we're updating the scale and sculpts of our miniatures and it's gonna take a while" and then keep releasing new models in the new scale and refreshing kits as they have been.There was zero need for an in universe change, they're game pieces.
>>98586353>it absolutely did not need lore.it did, because the "while" was almost 10 fucking years
It also wasn't just a scale change, but a complete faction redesign from generalists to aspect warriors. If they hadn't explained it the exact same number of autists would have bitched that do now (a very small number overall).
>>98586114It used to be, a box of troops was proportional to the army role.Tactical Squad - 10 marinesEldar Guardians 16 guysGaunts 16 (8+8)Guardsmen 20 guysI think Ork Shoota/Slugga Boyz were 12 or 16.Not sure about Necron Warriors
Why are they upgrade regular chaos marine to be in line with Primaris? Aren't Primaris supposed to be bigger and better than regular marines? Just let them be bigger and better, chaos marines can be cheaper.
>>98586336guard players have been doing this for 30 years
I just realized, it's kinda annoying that they made some characters support aand some leaders.As a guard player, being able to attach 2 characters to sqauds was our thing. They should make it so that we can have three characters then.
>>98586400EC are already a mix of T4 and T5 (flawless blades, noise marines). "Primaris" as a concept is going away in the game, marines are marines.
One of these weapons is known in the lore at being absolutely shit at dealing with Space Marines. Can you guess which of these weapons is lore-wise supposed to be barely-functional against Power Armour?
>>98586414Is that not because they are elite squads with a reason to have better toughness? Would they not have been buffed to T5 and T6 if T5 is the new baseline?
>>98586400Veterans of the long war + chaos juice, get bent piggy.
>>98586425Their tormentors and infractors are infiltrating/scout units equivalent to phobos and will likely stay T4. Flawless Blades are T5 where their equivalent Bladeguard are currently T4, maybe they go to T6 but they wouldn't be out of line staying where they already are.
>>98586435t5 tormentors/infractors would make EC the most cancerous army in the game
>>98586437It's already bullshit that they have OC2 marines infiltrating onto objectives. And can all advance and shoot/charge. I've never beaten them.
>>98586423AFAIK, both pulse rifles and shuriken carbines need repeated or lucky hits to hurt space marines.Gauss flayers fire disintegration beams, and should instakill or maim a marine if they hit him. So their stats are bullshit for gameplay reasons.
I love 40k as a setting and the miniatures. But I hate the way the game has played since 8th edition. Can I force myself to enjoy the game somehow? I want to like it, but I hate the comp focus and scoring style gameplay. Coming from TOW where missions are just „ Kill the opponent „ with bonus objectives to get more kill points
>>98586447>>98586437Once they're T5 their points cost should go up massively, it may actually make them easier to deal with as they'll have less of them.
>>98586453>"should"GW said that indirect would change in points significantly this editiona nd I think the average stat movement was 5 pts
>>98586449play a faction with purge the foe as your scoring
>>98586449Scoring is so easy this edition that the only way to reliably keep your opponent from getting 90+ is to table them asap.
>>98586449Why would you force yourself? This is supposed to be a hobby and recreation.
>>98586472Legitimately my biggest problem with the game right now. Lethality is whatever, but the fact everyone scores so easily that you can't reasonably play the denial game just fighting for board control and disrupting their scoring because they can just swing by 30 points in one turn at the end of the game if you didn't kill them.Secondary missions are a joke. They shouldn't all be so trivially easy and you shouldn't get to sit on 10 of them until the end of the game. Maybe if they maxed out at 4 active in hand and if more of them were related to positioning and actions instead of just killing it would give some actual counter-play options instead of both players just racing to 100.
>>98586491Wait do you win the game if you reach 100 points first?
>>98586493No, but at 100 points you can't loseIt's very common for people to end up with scorlines like 97-100
CAW CAW
>>98586508>stealing our trademarked catch phraseYou'll be hearing from our lawyers
>can get heavy weapons>heavy weapons aren't on sprue>ability only effects meleeWhen do we get Chaos Intercessors and Chaos Intercessor Squad instead of this weird Chaos Tactical Squad?
>>98586529>heavy weapons aren't on spruebait used to be believable
Will you miss it?
>>98586548show me where the Autocannons & Lascannons on sprue?
>>98586554yes, except for the metal plates bolted to the tires. That was always stupid
>>98586554no, I already got two
>>98583175>geniousESLs go back over the border
>>98586573Aye wheel gogh ass eye pleese
>>98586573>american hours start>offtopic seething and shitposting begins>even in a dead threadMental illness
Why did they have to remove Wartrakk's debuff and make the new ability speed freakz only? It was a decent general unit before change.
What's the deal with the 5e LARPers? People being upset and switching to old editions is nothing new but majority of them was moving back to 3.5e (3e codexes and 4e rules). Nowadays I see a lot of comments from people that claim they are dropping the current 40k in favour of 5e. I know the consensus is that 5e is simply shit compared with 3e or even 4e. Is this some kind of Discord psyop?
>>98586603Anyone who has played all editions knows 4th with 5th run rules is objectively peak Warhammer
>>98586603Only 2nd ed has a decent amount of (aging) players.3-5th ed games are a meme. They talk about it but very few people actually play them among friends in private groupsPart of the reason is that nobody agrees in what middle hammer rules to use. Everybody has their own biases.
>>98586573>bfto>still seething after 14+ hours
>>98586608There’s no reason to play 3rd. 4th is just a cleaned up 3rd. I can understand 5th because that was slightly different. I’ve never played 2nd though and would really be down if I found a grog scene in my city. They really need to release something like Old World for 40k, with a pre 8th core ruleset for us who prefer the older style of gameplay, where it was less a video game and more of a wargame.
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>>98586624>There’s no reason to play 3rdThere's one: To play with only the rulebook and nothing else. It included index rules for all factions at the time. It was also the simplest and more streamlined 40k rule set ever
>>98586624>for us who prefer the older style of gameplay, where it was less a video game and more of a wargame.The new core rules aren't the problem. It's the codexes and how they're designed. Fandexes using the old design paradigm would be great along 11e
>>98586640For me I really really dislike the core ruleset. The changes to hitting/ws. The changes to hitting with weapons, the lack of armor values and vehicle charts. Not a fan at all.
>>98584730I don't like their current lore of stealing the Red Corsairs schtick just so that ADB could write deviantart tier fanfic of them. I do like that they just want to kill everything and ruin the galaxy because 10,000 years later they are still butthurt.
>>98586596>>98586600Uh oh ESL melty lmao
>>98586561Can't believe orks would do something "stupid".
>>98583376What is the "Truth"?
>>98583596>this psychotic SLUT will bounce on it until you fucking DIEHow about just holding hands
>>98583507They could very easily fix it with nothing but a few paragraphs. Like allowing a few more leaders, and some anti tank.They really need to just commit to it being the old inquisition codex.
>>98583521No absolutely not.I have played against a tyranid army that was like chow me in at a Warhammer Open. Also saw a Admech army that was like steam punk DaVinci whole army was off a diorama.It would have to be super obvious it's mostly not GW plastic.
>>985866035th edition was around for so long I assume there is just a really wide net for people who are now nostalgic for it as their childhood edition (it was certainly mine.)Do 5th edition larpers use the later codexes, like Dark Eldar and space wolves? those were basically 6th edition books in disguise, very much written under the assumptions of 6th edition meta.
