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>>98594852Does anon wear glasses under his glasses when he paints?
>>98594858No but I probably should
>TQConsidering its already been made, I guess one with chaos spawn in it and some characters and a mutalith vortex beast in it.
>>98594868which 40k army is this suppose to be?
>>98594875Thousand tzaangor
>>98594875They're Thousand SonsCan't you see from the cyan and gold with a bit of red on the elites? That's clearly Ahriman
>>98594852Guardians, war walkers, a warlock conclave, a farseer, that sort of thing. I really want a warlock conclave box. None of this 10x dire avenger bullshit. God it’s so awful
considering the advice i got yesterday about picking what looks coolest and going with it i think im gonna go with tau as my first miniatures
Another imperial Fists Christmas box?
>>98594897>looks at the entire 40k range and the thing he thinks looks the coolest are the tauGrim. Grim dark even.
>>98594858I need real magnifying glasses with a light. I just have an old cumbersome headlamp.
>tq10 tacs, 5 devs, a captain, and an attack bikeYou asked me what I hoped for, not what I thought they'd get
Think we'll get Fires of Cyraxus any time soon?
>>98594911gundam are cool + i like robots but not the manmade horrors beyond my comprehension ones like the mechanicum use
I know this is a joke, but I think the Adeptus Mechanicus would probably be the preferred career path for people who would become transsexuals in the modern day. They feel an inherent disgust with their genitals, etc so they get rid of their bodies entirely. Obviously this only applies to "tru-trans", not AGPs, who are all slaaneshfags.
>>98594922Tau don’t have gundams, they have Indian tier knock offs that look like shit. Imperial knights are closer to your standard mech fantasy, they’re just missing Psykers and sexually charged romance.
>>98594852>What do you hope will be included in /yourdudes/ combat patrol box when it comes out?Obviously none of these would happen, but fuck I wish they would.1. Royal Warden, Immortals, Lychguard (shields), Doomsday Ark2. Ghostkeel, Crisis Team, Fireblade and a team of Breachers3. Einhyr Champ, Hearthguard, Steeljacks, Steeljacks
>>98594930>Imperial knights are closer to your standard mech fantasyAbsolutely not, not even close.You have never perceived /m/ at all.
I'm not sure if I scammed myself buying these redgrass clippers but they're way nicer than citadel at least
>>98594937Crisis suits barely qualify as a power suit let alone as a fucking mech.
>>98594921Never ever.Just collect HH mechanicum for the hell of it like I do
The better Imperial Knights.
>>98594941And Titans don't fulfill the mecha fantasy for any mecha franchise or work that anyone has cared about in over 50 years due to how slow and useless they are. They're close to the artillery fantasy than a mecha one.
Imperial Botes
>>98594952Furry.
Dreadnoughts are mechs.
>>98594930I think they look cool but ill probably paint them a different color than white because that’s boring
RIP Kantor.
>>98594964Even in death, Ein still serves.
>>98594970Hes gonna get his ass filled with that tail, isnt he? The nid will be nice and slow with his impalement.
>>98594973Some nice insight into your mind
Got these two closer to being done but I'm going to bed.I hope you guys got to play or work on something this weekend.
Awoo with me sisters!
>>98594983xamn...
>>98594979Is that michelle obama
>>98594988Which one
>>98594979I finished the first half of a squad of intercessors. I also primed my HB Eliminators and GSC magus for painting this week.
>>98594992Left
>>98594952
>>98594950Fuck off idiot
I have made a website for anons to use.Dicedakka.comThe basic idea for the website came from pokemon showdown and the fun anons had back in the older 4chan days when we would have teambuilding threads where one anon would play and we would tell him pokemon to use, this usually resulted in griefing the opponents but that was the entire point lmao.Anyway to build a good pokemon team whose meta is as pretty close to solved as you can get they have a bunch of VERY useful tools.Specifically:One vs All: Choose your unit and see how its firepower performs against an entire faction, ranked from easiest kill to toughest target.One vs One: Put one attacker against one target and get a complete breakdown of every roll, rule and point of damage.All vs One: Choose the enemy threat and discover which units in your faction are best equipped to bring it down.You can now pick a unit, sort out its loadout, determine any variables like cover or aura, and know the exact odds that your chosen unit has killing every unit of every faction in the game.You can One v One when you are playing tabletop directly by selecting your unit and the enemies unit and know you might need more shots or an overcharged shot to guarantee a kill.There is more you can do including army building.I would like any anons here to test out my site, I am going to ignore most of the feedback.Regarding ads, there will be one ad banner and thats it, currently its not implemented yet as i am waiting on adsense.Regarding the tithe button at the top right, its just a donation button for site support and any extra will go towards buying silver bullion that i will place in a little 40k shrine and photograph, this is not implemented as im waiting on stripe shit.Also i implemented a secret 4chan theme, just click on the theme button top right, when the list is open type in clover on the keyboard and it should appear on the list. Yes the posts are a bit cringe. I know.also add it to OP plox fags.
>>98594964It's always okay to kill the guilty children
What's more expensive for the Imperium to produce, a space marine librarian, or a temple assassin?
>>98594996It's a lot paler in person but I can see it if I squint
>>98594950Fuck on Destinyfag
>>98595003Depends on the assassin
>>98594964Give Chocolate
Can I give all my scouts shotguns?
>>98595046
>>98595046Yeah probably
Should I paint all my aspect warriors all the same shrine, or all different shrines?I'm just thinking that it might be annoying to have all different shrines if I want to make a max size unit
>>98595068I would do the same shrine until I have enough for one max strength unit and then maybe swap shrine if I liked a second shrine
>>98595068>the shrine of infinite genderswhat did GW mean by this?
>TQ>What do you hope will be included in /yourdudes/ combat patrol box when it comes out?Same box as before but with the new version of all the models.>2025 Archon>2027 Kabalite Warriors>2019 Incubi>2027 Raider>2027 RavagerThey can up the price like 30% if they have to, since I know they're going to do it anyway.
>>98594914I got a cheap on off Amazon for $20, it has a clamp on it so I can affix it wherever
OH NO! BOOBIES!
>>98594858I got a giant ass hobby lamp that is the power of 200 suns. On a swivel arm too so I get to position it how I want it. Would recommend.
Votann need trains.
Boobies don't belong in 40k. Especially not in Slaanesh. Slaanesh hates sex.
My collection needs a lot of work
Would nu-40k design aesthetics improve or worsen if they started adding boobies to things? And I don't just mean make infantry with female torsos. I mean tanks, speeders, walkers, planes, etc.
>>98595117
>>98595140Tyranids with acid milkers
>inceptors>intercessors>incursors>impulsors>interceptors>invictors>infiltrators>infernus>aggressors>eradicators>eliminators>devastators>desolators>terminators>interrogators>centurions>dreadnaughts>reivers>primaris>primarchs>purifiers>purgators>hellblasters>redemptors>custode>sororitas>mechanicus>titanicus>militarum>traitorisWhy are they like this?
>>98595134in what sense
>>98595159I have bought some random shit and my paint work is bad
>>98595162same, the solution is probably to buy more models
>>98595140There should be a tyranid flier that drops voluptuous tits filled with acid like the bazelgeuse>fighter jets with titsyeah, I've been to /k/. Fuck it why not, add it in
Predictions for the mini of the month?
>>98595115I just don't trust amazon being full of chink scammers.
>>98595192Nothing
>>98595192>he doesn't knowthey put out a press release yesterday quietly cancelling it
>>98595192The current theory is the GW is discontinuing it, but that is exclusively based on a now-deleted r*ddit post so we have no way of knowing if it's still happening.>>98595193I bought a cheap lamp with a magnifier in the center for $10 from Hobby Lobby. It works perfect for lighting and magnifying well enough, I just had to learn the eye relief on it (it's like 3 inches). It came with a USB type A power cable and no wall adapter though.If you are American, go check all sorts of hobby stores for shit like that.
>>98594911Shadowsun is cooler than any chapter master ever.
>>98595206I need to go to hobby lobby for fine tip glue applicators anyway.
>>98594970post YFW they kill him off in a fluff blurb in the new codex
>>98595219If they kill him off in a blurb in a codex, he's guaranteed to get a new model in like 3 years going off of Yarrick's precedent>killed off in a fluff blurb in 9th codex>comes back right before 11th edition
>>98594852I'd love to see the exodite half of the KT box plus maybe some rangers and a unit of shroud runners. That'd be real nice.
>>98595235they werent going to bring back The old man. They were going to try and Creed him with that new power fister commissar. They panicked when the push back to his death blurb hit. We will get a Primaris Kantor pity or equal attention model later in the edition.
>>98595209Her model is almost perfect but I wish I could find a third party head to replace with that's cuter (non-wrinkled) and has her hair let down.
>>98594897I hate T'au but don't listen to the other fags, collect what you think looks cool.
I don't know what army to pick. Emperor's Children, World Eaters, Thousand Sons, Red Corsairs, Iron Warriors, Dark Angels, Black Templars, Blood Angels, Ultramarines, Eldar (Corsair theme), Sisters of Battle, Grey Knights, Adeptus Custodes, Tau or Votann. Did I name all factions? Fuck I don't know.
>>98594930Gundam fan here, Tau battlesuits are absolutely the closest thing to a Gundam/general mecha look. The IK are cool as well but they are far more steampunk-adjacent than the sleek, futuristic presentation of Tau units.Please get back on your meds so you can see the world accurately.
>>98595278Do you like good guys or bad guys? Humans or xenos? What is your tolerance for details to paint?
>>98595279they remind me of the Geth from Mass Effect more than anything
>>98595278What army do you like the look of most? What is your current skill in painting? What sort of playstyle/power fantasy do you want your army to have?
>>98595278You didn't name nids.
>>98595278Space Wolves
>>98594925Yeah, the Mechanicus work well as stand ins for trans/genderqueer people in 40k. They're a cabal of esoteric weirdoes who mutilate themselves chasing an 'ideal form' and feud with each other constantly over minor differences in belief.Tho honestly every faction in 40k can be seen as the worst possible version of an IRL group or idea. The reason Generic Space Marines have such widespread appeal is because they appear to be the male power fantasy manifest. But like everything in 40k when you look a bit closer you realise they're actually a ghoulish caricature of masculinity.
>>98595279The only gundam you’ve ever watched was some dogshit like gquuuux you fucking dirty whore.
>>98595278Let's narrow it downAnswer honestlyWhat do you want out of 40k?Do you want to learn and grow your painting skills, or do you just want to throw down models and play the game regardless of how they look?
Looking for suggestions, I'm trying to get back into the hobby after not playing since 8th edition. Been thinking about it for awhile and the big ork revamp pushed me over the edge on it.What's looking good for orkz these days? I used to run a sort of shooty list of massed infantry (shoota boyz, lootas, tankbustas) backed up by looted wagons and a morkanaut. I may run something similar still, but I want to mix it up and try some new stuff too. Was looking at maybe bikes and buggies, maybe a dreadmob, or maybe even just get a bunch of trukks and battlewagons to mount up in.
>>98595283>Do you like good guys or bad guys? Humans or xenos? What is your tolerance for details to paint?Leaning bad, humanoid, doesn't have to be humans, tolerance for details depends on the model I guess, I tried painting Cities of Sigmar for AoS and I hated it but enjoyed painting some Sisters of Battle (even though it was a long time ago).>>98595288>What army do you like the look of most? What is your current skill in painting? What sort of playstyle/power fantasy do you want your army to have?Might sounds stupid but I think I like all of them equally. Small factions like EC, WE and TS worry me since they don't have a lot of variety.>>98595294I rather avoid horde armies and not a fan of pure monster mash as well. I like balance.>>98595296Thought about it but I rather wait and see how their update looks like. Seems like they updated the viking side of the army and what's left is the wolf side which could go horribly wrong.>>98595301>What do you want out of 40k?I mostly paint, I have a small Dark Eldar army but it's a horrible pain in the ass to transport. I would like to play more games this edition and I don't enjoy Dark Eldar anymore.Thank you for help, guys.
>>98595308New codex comes out this weekend, so it's hard to say what will be good
What was your favorite wargear card?
>>98594930>>98594937>>98595279Imperial Knights are western mecha, brick shithouses that are 30% gun by volume. Tau are eastern mecha, hyper mobile murder machines.Both are also associated with the idealised warrior nobility. Tau mech pilots are samurai while imperial knight pilots are, well knights.
>>98595328> Blast templatesAs someone who's only recently actually started playing (on TTS no less, I'm still painting and buying up an army), how were templates? Easy enough to use? Flavourful? Or really annoying, gotcha rules, etc?
>>98595315>I have a small Dark Eldar army but it's a horrible pain in the ass to transportBuy a pack of small magnets, glue them to your basesbuy a sheet of steelbuy a set of plastic bins relatively close to the dimensions of your stainless steel sheetput sheet in binyou now have a foolproof way of transporting an entire army for less than 100 dollarsplay whatever army your heart desires because there is almost 0 chance of something shifting in transit unless you fuck upfoam transport carriers are a scam
>>98594897rule of cool will never let you down
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98595338You better get me a Kheradruakh model anon, I'm counting on you
>>98595235When?
>>98595333Grogs will tell you templates were fine, they're lying. I started in 5th and I can tell you people bitched about template scatter and placement at least once every game. By 7th I just stopped taking template weapons entirely and agreed with whatever my opponent said about their templates because I wanted the shooting phase to end faster.Like most things in old 40k, they were a good Idea in theory and worked great when your playing with friends but were a nightmare in pick up games. They work fine in Heresy for that reason because its a much smaller game with more community focus. If your a prick about Templates in Heresy people just stop playing with you and then you can't play the game at all.
>>98595334Magnus a shit. Can't even beat an abhuman.
>>98595315>bad, humanoid>small factions worry me>avoid horde armies>not a fan of pure monster mashChaos Space Marines seems to me to be the best pick. Not one of the monogod legions, generic Chaos Undivided. Black Legion, Iron Warriors, Red Corsairs, homebrew renegades, something there using the CSM rules.CSM has a roster a bit more constrained than loyalists, but it's nowhere near the monogod armies' or SoB's sizes.>like balanceTo get a good balance of units, you need battleline that are worth taking for their own combat output. CSM do that very well, Renegade Raiders makes Legionaries very potent IME.Most of my play experience is with SoB, so I should probably stop opining on anything to help you on this here.
>>98595370God I hate how late you get Margit's sword. It looks so fucking sick. I should just cheat a run, lock my SL and use it from the start.
>>98595315Dark Eldar or Necrons then.
>>98595331>>98595279>>98594930I always felt that the tau battlesuit was closest to the mobile infantry from starship troopers actually. (the book not the movie)
>>98595331Yeah i'd cop to that, IK I feel like are for people who like battletech and Tau are for people who like anime. I plan to build both.
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98595278CorsairsI’m finishing up my first unit now
>Locked in the deepest vault in Terra, locked in many many chains, a whole ass force field etc is apparently the most dangerous item they own>That item is apparently just a copy of the Bible>Dark Eldar also said they wished humans were back like they used to be making music as a Haemonculi who kidnapped an Inqusitor was crying tears of joy when he listened to Bach and that he would trade all of Commorragh's pleasure pits just to hear more stuff like thatCan someone explain why ancient human things like the Bible are dangerous and why alien races like the Dark Eldar would rather hear music than torture? Now I'm curious what would happen to humanity if they didn't conquer the galaxy but instead did shit to the equivalent of Star Trek.
>>98595406The bible thing is just the emperor being the biggest fedora ever.The Deldar thing is just a Haemonculus who's been so jaded by endless sensory stimulation that he forgot how to feel something real until the music spoke to him.
>>98595406Because GW I mean the Emperor is an atheist who's only known experience with gods is the chaos gods. He wiped out religion in an effort to destroy the concept of faith in external divine forces so no one would feed the chaos gods. Or the Imperial faith itself is afraid of Christianity going against everything they preach down.
>>98595331>>98595393Which is fucked up by knights being the melee class and tau being ranged only.Not like that "western mecha are slow guns and jap mecha fly around" has ever been true either. Battletech is dominated by jump jet mechs.
Slow (k)night, what gives fellas? Long weekend?
Built my sisters that I'm going to include as agentsI don't like the bases I did for my marines so I'm going to try that marble effect using white primer and a stretched out wet wipe
>>98595435Reminder of that time an Ultralisk slapped the shit out of a Terran transformer wannabe.
>>98595333If you knew the opponent had templates, either you spent extra time during movement to space your units out or accepted you'd be taking way more hits that needed.
I am now sad that the Terrans got the STC for dirt cheap power armor that can't protect against jack shit. The Imperium doesn't equip every Penal Legionnaire with one
>>98595117Needs more ass.
>>98595435Don't know anything about battletech but pretty much every mech I've seen from it have been of the industrial realism variety, and I don't doubt they can move fast, but most jap mecha are just giant segmented people who don't give a fuck about gravity
>>98595192Didn't that get discontinued?
>>98595520>when the girl's mom is hotter than the girlEvery time
Give
>>98595533
>>98595333Incredibly fun and flavorful, but abused by the faggots which make up 100% of the nu-40k community
>>98595533Come and get it.
>>98595154Leaks confirmed Primaris Molestors 2028
>>98595573How much?
>>98595573It's all connected.
>>98595406because the writers are hacks
>>98595588Depends on where you want to buy one.https://www.ebay.com/itm/165901163645https://www.ebay.com/itm/186280337652I bought mine ages ago for maybe 70€ shipped.
Japan is still capable of experiencing joy, how nice
>>98595406>why alien races like the Dark Eldar would rather hear music than torture?They got to the point where they needed to torture because they we're bored, they've experienced the entirety of eldar emotional expression, human emotional expression is new and novel, especially the ancient stuff
I honestly wanna buy the World Eaters Combat Patrol and Codex to learn a new army but then I had a realization. What if I just finish painting the rest of my Eldar models I got back in April BEFORE I buy a brand new army?
>>98595435Yeah. but when Battletech says Jumpjet mech they mean a 90 tun Highlander jumping over an office building to goomba stomp an Urbie into the fucking ground.When the Japs say jump Jet mechs they mean "our pilots have sugically removed all their blood and organs to better handle 100G manoeuvre's"No ones trying to imply one way is better. But their is a difference in approach between walking tank and big metal person.
>>98595621holy kino
>>98595627Woah there, anon. That's crazy talk
>>98595643
>>98595627but anon, then you will never end up like one of those guys who has 5 unpainted armies
>>98595621That lord is EXTREMELY bored. Love the look tho.
had a game of 4e with a friend earlier, my ultras vs his nids.he had a strong start when he ambushed me with some raveners and flat wiped out a squad, but that took the raveners out of synapse range so i took the opportunity to run them over with a rhinothen i got a lucky reserves roll and my terminators deep striked into a very advantageous position on turn 2. this squad went on to do basically nothing except make him so scared that he dumped a disproportionate amount of manpower into taking it out.he immobilized one of my rhinos in a bad position, blocking an important path down the board and kneecapping my mobility...but just when it seemed like he could was about to break through my lines and touch me in my no-no place, my captain heroically won a duel with his hive tyrant, taking a bunch of units out of synapse and saving the day for the space marines. another glorious victory for macragge's finest.how'd (you)r last game go, anons?
What 2 single units in the fight phase are fighting for this feeling?
>>98595632>Yeah. but when Battletech says Jumpjet mech they mean a 90 tun Highlander jumping over an office building to goomba stomp an Urbie into the fucking ground.Guy who has never fought a wraith in his entire life. Light jumpmechs are the current meta and are so powerful that tournaments have to limit how many 7 hex jumps and pulse lasers you can bring.This is just a stereotype that isn't really based on anything but assumptions. Armored core 4A isn't even representative of the rest of armored core, let alone all of japanese mecha.>>98595520>jap mecha are just giant segmented people who don't give a fuck about gravitySo's battletech. You're thinking of mechwarrior.
>>98594852>TQ3 for Guard:Armoured Spearhead>1x Hipogriff, 10x Cadians, 1x Castellan, 1x TechpriestKrieg Defense Line>20x Kriegsmen, 4x Krieg Heavy Weapons Squad, 1x Artillery TeamDeath World Fighters (this comes with a theoretical Catachan wave)>20x Catachan Jungle Fighters, 5x Catachan Command Squad, 3x Catachan Heavy Weapons Squad, 1x Catachan Special Sentinel (Scout Sentinel with Catachan upgrade sprue and badass buzzsaw)
>Don't play objectives as Eldar>Get slaughtered>Play objectives as Eldar>Just outright winI'm beginning to see why I need to start playing 40k with only objectives.
>>98595368>Grogs will tell you templates were fine, they're lying.Is that the worst thing about 4th? I think I'll be fine if that game lives up to the hype it gets from grogs/boomers/uncs here. Anybody here started at 8th onwards tried 4th? How was it? >If your a prick about Templates in Heresy people just stop playing with you and then you can't play the game at all.This is how gatekeeping should be done. Just don't like the player and stop playing with him. No need for a big scene to be made or some fancy show of "force" on said player.
>>98595573>>98595601I started with Legos. Mostly Bionicle but also regular Legos.Now I am into scale models and Warhammer 40k (mostly) miniatures. I never can escape plastic addiction can I?
>>98594897you have good taste, sir. Rumor say they will propably receive some new models soonish.
Imperial Knights are space brets and for that reason I will always hate them
Riptides are very cool
>>98595756>Spoileri can’t speak to that personally, but one of my friends who started in late 9th/early 10th described his first game of 4e (featured here >>98595673) as “the most fun he’d ever had playing 40k”
>>98595333super fucking fun, but I played guard back thenblasts were on average way more inaccurate than shooting and also benefited less from ballistic skill so they were perfect for guard/orks etc and not as much fun for marinesyou picked an enemy model as the target, then rolled a scatter dice that had "arrows" on 4 sides and "hit" on two sides. If you rolled hit, you just put the blast on top of that target model and get an automatic hit for everything partially underneath itif you rolled an arrow, you move the center of the blast 2d6-BS in the direction of the arrow. The exact line direction of the arrow was something waac shitters would argue about to try to save modelshits were the best though, if you rolled that hit your large blast (5 inch diameter) could easily hit every model in a 10-man unit if it was bunched up. Most stuff didn't have large blast though, usually only one or two models in a codex. battlecannons, earthshaker cannons, vindicator cannons, whirlwinds, railgun submunitions etcso you play guard and one of you heavy weapon lascannons pop a rhino and all the marines pile out of the burning wreckit's still your shooting phase but now they're exposed and clumped togetherthen you land a perfect battlecannon shell in the middle of the blob and instagib every marine on a 2+ with no save it felt SO GOOD and always tilted the marine playersbut that's why salty players would argue about the direction because the more clumped an target unit is the more you're likely to completely miss everything if you roll a scatter in the wrong directionFlamers (templates) worked the same way, but NO SCATTER and the small end of template had to always touch the exact model with the template weapon so you wanted to maneuver close with the flamers to get more coverage. some exceptions that let you put the small end down anywhere within 12" like hellhounds, they were much more powerful because you could get perfect angles for perfect coverage
>>98594852>TQ>/yourdudes/>combat patrol boxHonestly I don't even know. I don't know if I would want my dudes canonized in any way.Best case scenario they are mentioned once and it was a pyrrhic victory and then never mentioned again so it is implied they're still kicking around.Worst case scenario fans accidentally love my autism project and my autism project faces stupid levels of reductionism like how the grimdark painting style and blanchitsu got reduced to excessive washes with weathering being optional with the conversions/kitbashes that carry the style nearly nonexistent. >>98592898>>98592898>>98592898Remember lads. I dropped a Forge World styled Rogal Dorn fan made tank.https://gofile.io/d/sH77kQCo
Are shotgun bolters or some kind of shotgun equivalent for space marines a thing? And if so are they represented on the tabletop?
>>98595778I did not read that post until you pointed it out.I am now desiring the 40k 4th edition everything harder. >one of my friendsI wonder if there is an LGS out there where a good number of autists use this specific Warhammer 40k forum and we all don't know it?A Cabal if you will.There was a funny thread about LGS and a lot of Canadians came in talking about the homeless around their game stores to play 40k. Some mused about the horror of the homeless/druggies learning how expensive Warhammer 40k models can be.There is a significant number of 40k leafs here.I am one of them.Tangent aside. How is 4th edition with 2k point model numbers of 10th edition?
>>98595790can I see a pic?
>>98595601damn that's sick bro
>>98595803The pic of the tank is in the previous thread link.If you're asking about my dudes. They only exist as a boatload of STLs on a western digital 5tb elements hard drive.At the moment I need to sit down and organize and properly tag files or rename them to be more easily searchable because the copyright safe names are making this harder. Figure out how you'll organize your STLs then make sure to change the silly copyright dodging names. Or at least note what the creators are and what they're proxying as.
>>98595789>The exact line direction of the arrow was something waac shitters would argue about to try to save modelsWhich is easily solved by the template having arrows on it which correspond to numbers instead so the exact direction is always clear.
All I want from the Imperial Guard codex is a detachment that give lasguns & laspistols +1 strength and +1 ap and an ability to give free first rank second rank to a unit so I can roll SO MANY DICE. I want to kill gods with flashlights I want to destroy hopes and dreams with flashlights I want to blind my opponent in real life not in game I am bringing a flashlight to beat my opponent to death with
>>98595835>give lasguns & laspistols +1 strength and +1 apyou are not a real guard player
If seeing an Iron Hands player is the equivalent of seeing a unicorn, what's the Chaos equivalent? Word Bearers?
>>98595839A DETACHMENT that gives them +1S and +1AP, basically hotshot lasguns for battlelines.
>>98595333they were the best. Imperial Guard is unrecognizable these days without them. complete bore to play.
>>98595840Night Lords, funnily enough. Few people like them as an army choice and if you don't paint the lightning bolts on every model it's a cop-out.
>>98595673This short cap of your game is more enyertaining than most movies ive seen in years. Top notch
Can I post my wip custodes army?
>>98595891No. The posting of models is strictly forbidden.
>>98595891Who's gonna stop you, the police? I don't see any board rules it violates
Why is GW like this? The only explanation that comes to my mind is that marines are aimed at newfags and are therefore mandated to be as simple as easy to paint as possible.
>>98595907You mean why does nuGW put ugly gay swirly shit on their models
>>98595907>waaah my generic captain on bike isn't as impressive as the special named characters of other factions
>>98595907>Generic leader unit>Named character
>>98595907That's not even a theory, folks from GW have outright stated that it is so.
>>98595913But generic ork characters are way more interesting too.
Was contemplating buying a votann dorfbat patrol to see if I like them but I remembered I play Kill TeamWould you guys rec the Yaegirs or the Salvagers?
>>98595907left >cad slopright>bespoke ork character designed by veteran sculptor
>>98595922Not really.Generic Ork characters have been lacking for a while. Still no Warboss in mega armour with shoota and klaw.
>>98595907All the good ideas for future bikers are taken up by other factions, leaving marines with the a single pose of the most boring shit possible. The only good thing about their generic captain release spam is that none of them are interesting enough to stop you building something better for way cheaper from spare parts. Maybe if Ravenwing get specific models this edition some of them will stand out. They are capable of making unique marines (Aethon Shaan, Feirros... uh...).
i have no idea what im doing but i am enjoying how simple it is to assemble and paint custodes. the hh models are nice but idk if the hh box x2 and a combat patrol makes for a decent army or not........
>>98595941You type like a spastic who has had far too much screen time.
>>98595949wdym? I thought what i typed was pretty clear
You guys remember when we could take wargear?
>>98595951Ellipses
>>98595732Someone answer me?
>>98595871>Night Lords are rareI call fucking bullshit
>>98595871Lightning bolts are easiest thing in the world to fucking paint and are probably the biggest crutch when it comes to painting.Only thing I can think of that rivals it is knowing proper undercoats when drybrushing metals but that's a technique.
>>98595963Sorry pal I play wargames not fighting game community stuff.
>>98595923Recently I had a game scheduled against a guy playing votann and I usually autistically check the opponent's rules to figure out how I should deploy etc. but Votann are so profoundly uninteresting to me that I just couldn't be assed.I got completely demolished as a result, since they have rerolls on fucking everything all the time apparently.
>>98594868The thousand sons combat patrol has 20 tzaangors while the aos tzaangor equivalent only has 17. Much to think about
>>98595732none since the removal of the weapons skill table.
>paint up my weirboy> oh look my phobos librarian and infiltraitors>paint those>Hey look at these scion bits I got, I can make a traitor enforcer for the mutant ogryn I got for 5$ a while agoAfter this I'll probably paint my GSC magus. I cant for the life of me focus on an army.
>>98595941>army wip so shit no one comments it's over time to kms
Is there a practical purpose to this new kit besides 'The old one was overdue for a replacement (by the standards of space marine troops that is)'Will it have chainsaws so assault intercessors can start sharing it as a multikit? We know it's not adding any special weapons, at least when the Tacticals were updated for 6th they added grav guns
>>98596004I've been bouncing between armies as well to prevent burn out. Worst part of 40k is painting so many of the same / similar models.
>>98596015>Will it have chainsaws so assault intercessors can start sharing it as a multikit?oh my sweet summer child
>>98596006Don't be an attention whore anon, you'll end up like the decalfag.
>>98596015GW needs more money and since they pretty much already primarised every other space marine unit they have to start from the beginning again.
>>98596015Incelcessors, Assault Incelcessors and Decalblasters should be one box. Other than weapons they're literally the same thing.
>>98596015>Is there a practical purpose to this new kitNo. They just made 10 new intercessor sculpts (5 in armageddon, 5 in the intro set) and even with the new rules I really doubt anyone will be using many after the codex is released. Higher strength shooting (which most/all marine units are getting) but fewer shots, and sticky in 10th was more useful than action+shoot/action while engaged/battle-shocked in 11th. Most dispositions aren't doing many actions, I think it's two random secondary missions.Some of the sergeant weapon options weren't in the old kit, but surely the simpler thing would be to remove those options not make a whoie new set of sprues to infest future combat patrols and battleforce boxes when they don't sell. Most marines units don't get thunder hammers for their sergeants, intercessors are the odd one out.
Should I>Build a Vostroyan army because they're coolor>Build a Steel Legion army because they're cool
>>98596006You didn't reply to my minis, why should I reply to yours >:(
>>98595941>>98596006There's not really much to say about the project as it is going along just fine to be for being WIP.You clearly did research ahead of time so the only thing left to do is just say you're doing alright and you'll keep improving. And I also don't know what I can say to help you improve as I'm not that good of a painter myself. Just keep up the good work and be happy while working on your models.
>>98596044Well, you missed the big Vostroyan MTO from a few months ago.New plastic Steel Legion will probably come with the Guard codex this edition, so hold out for them.
>>98596047because im painting and building anon.....
>>98596051I'll be getting either through resin recasters so I'm not too fussed about metal official-ness. It's more about which army I want to paint, can't seem to decide.
What is the worst mini in your army?
>>98596058Me
>>98596057>resinDisgusting.Metal or nothing.
>>98596064Are you calling yourself a manlet or....
>>98595907>That Ork's Armageddon basingThis always feels weird seeing as GW persistently always uses their brown painted grasslands sand all the time. The colours really do always seem to let the model "visually pop" but GW doesn't sell sand anymore so it always was weird that they continued to use it.But it is always weird seeing them have official basing schemes that aren't sand.Like Blackstone Fortress flat bases. Krieg stirland mud bases.Now Armageddon Agrellan Earth stuff and some sand and a lot of painting.>eavy archive gave paint scheme but not the technicals and if sand was used>https://eavy-archive.com/40k/orks/?modal=wazdakka&block=ash-wastes-base>>98595174>that picThat hit me really bad. I knew I did retail therapy "curtailed" to Warhammer 40k minis and other minis and hobby supplies like paint. But it was a lot. A-at least it wasn't bitcoin rugpulls or NFTs r-right?
>>98596057You should do Vostroyans since they're less likely to be updated by GW in the next decade so you'll have a more stable base to make your changes and additions to unlike Steel Legion which is gonna get new models *supposedly* in the next 3-5 years and you're less likely to see the new models and go "damn, I should've done that to my soldiers" etc
Retard question: if there's a unit in the red circle on the upper floor of a ruin that can draw LOS on a unit in the blue circle, the blue unit would still be considered obscured because of the terrain footprint, right?
>>98596082In past decades you'd be seen as a weirdo for buying shit you don't use But right now people in your position buy virtual currency and items while you at the very least have an overpriced physical object for your money and not some jpeg that will vanish when the game reaches EOS. Doesn't change the fact that you should analyse the root of why you buy so much I'm in the same boat and this is how I cope
>>98596006The "decent army" you want will become shit in the next edition. Just paint what you want to paint. If you think its cool you're doing it right.
>>98596108IIRC, if a unit is wholly within a terrain footprint it always gets BOC.
>>98596108You can't draw line of sight. Footprints are considered infinitely high when models are outside them. "Obscured" is a different thing related to terrain pieces/actual objects.
>>98596108Yes, terrain footprints are considered infinite height for the purposes of this rule.
>>98596112>In past decades you'd be seen as a weirdo for buying shit you don't useHonestly those days need to come back. Even if it hurts GW's wallet. A lot of businesses now and especially miniature companies are built on this kind of thinking. If the mentality of seeing people as weirdos for buying what they don't need I think some big companies would show signs of being hurt. Not sure what they would be. But I doubt it will be lower prices.>But right now people in your position buy virtual currency and itemsI've done this a few times. Not as much as miniatures though. But I cope that it was mostly miniatures.>spoilerThat and online gambling. We can suffer together.
>>98596121>>98596126>>98596127Ty for no bully
Now that the dust has settled. What will GW do with this guy now?
>>98596023Thing is turning assaults and normal ints into a multikit would probably BE the stingy moneygrubbing thing to do, since it means now everyone who wants one of those squads has to pay for an extra sprue of plastic they can't use
>>98596144Nothing40k will never get endtimes'd, because unlike Fantasy it doesn't have a bigger alternative to itself that makes more money
>>98596144Probably nothing beyond teasing old theories like the Star Child. Felt more like a "bone throw" to the oldhammer crowd who remembered those and the hardcore lorebuffs. Nothing more or less.Honsou coming back and getting a model, Clonegrim escaping Trayzn's collection, Yvraine and Ynnari doing something interesting is more likely. The eldar not getting their shit kicked in. But one thing that will never happen is Mike Brooks being able to go one warhammer 40k book in keeping his politics out. I don't even hate his beliefs. They just break my immersion because I can tell when he tries to "subtly" weave in stuff. It is like sponsor segment coming soon in a Youtube video if that makes sense.
>>98596152>Honsou coming back and getting a model, Clonegrim escaping Trayzn's collection, Yvraine and Ynnari doing something interesting is more likely. The eldar not getting their shit kicked in.I thought I typed in "has more chance of happening" after that greentext.This isn't a spelling error. This is a big goof. Well I am pulling an all nighter because I'm trying to get STLs off my 10+ year old phone using gofile.
>>98594852>What do you hope will be included in /yourdudes/ combat patrol box when it comes out?Either a generalist always good to have lineup to make collecting Orks cheaper. Orks will get a 2nd combat patrol later down the line. I hope it will have a Trukk, 20 non-monopose boyz, 5 Nobz, a Big Boss and a Warboss (or just warboss if they are going 1 char)Or something more geared towards a mech themeBig Mek in mega armor, 10 boyz, 2 meganobz, 3 killa kans, 10 gretchin
>What do you hope will be included in /yourdudes/ combat patrol box when it comes out?A Tau patrol that has a leader for at least one of its units. The Sudden Dawn one is great bc literally everything in it can fit pretty much any list but it'd be fuckin sick if I could have a fireblade instead of spending 40$ on one 25mm character.
>>98594852>tqAn hq, elite unit, basic battleline unit, big centerpiece vehicle/trnsport/monster, and some other straggler unit to reach 450-500ptsFuck Combat Patrols with like 300 points worth of dudes
Now that Lion and Guilliman are back. I wonder how many loyalist primarchs are coming back to the setting?
>>98596144Gonna fart out a warp storm and call another one of his returned sons a tool.>>98596174Enough to where they start fighting each other again, that would really be the only reason to bring back more. Never too late to be corrupted.
>>98596179>Never too late to be corruptedI'm hoping they're not going that route.
>>98594852>TQTrying to make the most boring box possible with the best value savings while being semi-realistic since it's GW but it's sisters of battle so it comes in at 335pts anyway:1x Canoness1x 10 Battle Sister/Dominion Squad1x 5 Sacresants 1x ImmolatorWe have>Leader unit >Battleline>Elite unit >Big cool centerpiece tank/transport that changes how you use one of the other unitsIt would have "okay" savings (I think 30-35%) and you could realistically buy it 3 times.
>>98595907I don't understand why they didn't add more ground clearance to the outrider bikes.Also that bike for the captain just looks boring as fuck.
>>98596179>Enough to where they start fighting each other again, that would really be the only reason to bring back more.They are never doing that because 40k is marvel now.>corrupt the loyalist primarchsAlso never happening because what makes loyalist primarchs sell the most is because they are loyalists.
>>98596201It will be especially bad when we finally see the new chaos bikers and their marines on bikes all have fun dynamic designs
>>98595405Nice
>>98596204>They are never doing that because 40k is marvel now.Heroes fighting eachother is a cornerstone of capeshit.
>>98596192Throw in a unit that bumps points but spoils multiple purchase value. Maybe keep the current Arcos? I know they're good but I don't think I've seen people use more than 10. Maybe a Penitent Engine.
>>98596108Wtf mission is that?
>>98596015>Is there a practical purpose to this new kitRubbing salt on the wound to the fact that they could have used this update to keep tacticals alive, but chose to do intercessors again and fix nothing about them.
>>98596237It's one of the combat patrol layouts in the app
So after the ancient Grey Knights and Dark Elder ranges get updated this Edition, who is left struggling the most in need of updates or expansion?It's got to be the chaos cult legions still right? One of them in the 12th edition launch box maybe
>>98595333Templates are fantastic because it makes players naturally avoid bunching 20 minis shoulder to shoulder behind a tiny wall, that sort of thing looks like shit, or like nu hammer which are the same thing.
>>98596260world eaters would make the ideal starter set opponents, as long as it's using bloodletters as chaff
>>98595368Thats only because 5th (a garbage edition) made all blast templates scatter, that was a mess. In 4th only artillery was scattering and you did the process once or twice per turn at most.
>>98596226Maybe swapping out the Sacresants for Retributors, it's a useful unit but do you really need 3? It would also bring the price value of the box down while raising the point value.
They're gone now. All of them.
>orks combat patrol has 10 Gretchin but no RuntherdWhyFeels odd to arbitrarily leave it out
>>98596275Good.
>>98596275What do you mean, intercessors didn't get squatted
>>98596275Except for Taticals, watch all of those return in primaris form.
>>98596285Bro they literally just updated Primaris 'tacs' right now
>>98596277because the 10 grots come out from empty spots on the ork sprue and they only reach 10 because the sprue is repeated twiceif they had added the runtherd then they would have had 2 runtherds per 10 grotsif they had added the runtherd as a separate hero then it meant removing one other ork herothe current normal gretchens and runtherd kit is also not going away, partly because the gretchen in the starter aren't a separate sprueand adding grots alone is a callback to the 2nd starter boxset
>>98596287I don't give a shit. Intercessors are not tacticals.
grimly kind of funny that the dark eldar are confirmed to have 1 more unit going to legends even when they get their update
>>98596290Not the point, they are clearly the Primaris equivalent to Tacticals, and they have just been updated. They are what they are for the next several years.
>>98596231Based bando
>>98596292all they needed to do was 4 kits>grotesques>rakhart>court of the archon>vectwatch them do none of those and instead waste shit on downgrades for bitches, kabals and boats
>>98596300Yeah yeah whatever, I don't care.
>>98596304you forgot the beastmaster and beasts
>>98596285Aggressors are already Primaris Centurions
>>98596225It's not.It's heroes vs villains. Villains being traitor primarchs.
>>98596321>Aggressors were supposed to be primaris terminators equivalent>Aggressors are Primaris CenturionsCan you guys just pick one narrative and stick with it?
>>98596301That effect on the melta barrel is so sexy how did you do it?
>>98596329I always claimed they are Centurions, since they are just a more armored version of a marine with Power Fist with attached guns to themThey share nothing with Termintators and everything with Centurions
>>98596329Only tards who say aggressors are primaris termies are clueless idiots.Only thing gravis and termies ever shared in common was being fat and slow.
What was the point?
>>98596329They were supposed to be terminators but since people like terminators and they updated them, they pivoted to be the new centurions which is why they get more toughness than terminators even if it makes no fucking sense.
>>98596329>>Aggressors were supposed to be primaris terminators equivalentyou said that
>>98596339>hey were supposed to be terminatorsThey never were
>>98596336>Only thing gravis and termies ever shared in common was being fat and slow.That's about as many things in common as most primaris replacements have with the classic units.
>>98596338To shill Silent King, which nobody really cares.
>>98596338Niggers.
>>98596341And intercessors never were tacticals but they are still meant to take their place.
They're The Same Picture
>>98596348Still never took their place seeing we have terminators now.
>>98596343I don't think that was it. He only showed up for the final book, and the individual entries before then didn't have much, or anything, to do with his Pariah Nexus storyline.
Wait, he's called The Silent King because he doesn't talk? What's wrong with him? What did they call him before he stopped talking or was he born a mute?
I've decided on Purple and Teal for my GSC, and am left with one question. Should I make them niggers?
>>98596349are there any grav weapons left?
>>98596335They're way smaller and way less shooty than Centurions though
>>98596292Where?
>>98596357That's part of improving them
>>98596353He was called the silent king because it's a cool name, then it was explained that it's the title all necrontyr supreme rulers have had and it's because they have the tradition to never address their subjects directly but instead have their will spoken by the other 2 members of the ruling triarchy (the two other necrons on his throne)unfortunately they made him speak directly at his first novel apparition and all apparition since because this is evidently too difficult of a concept for 40k's hack writers to stick to and instead the other members of the triarch are dumb puppets and nobody bats an eye when the silent king speaks himself
>>98596356Primaris tech marine has a grav pistol and Tor Garadon has a grav gun on his backpack.
>>98596334Gradient from silver to bronze/gold-ish paint, Druchii Violet over tha last third or so, and iirc the last stretch is a blue metallic with some of the gold mixed in, Runefang Steel with a bit of the blue mixed in at the end.
>>98596357>They're way smallerno, they aren't
>>98596349Can't believe I'm saying this but centurions look better.
i should organise my paints
>>98596374not having missile nipples alone makes Aggressors far better
>>98596349god marine designs are such dogshit
>>98596289Is it any kind of loss? I keep thinking of the old sisters patrol that had half a repentia squad and 3 arcos
>>98596373Yes they are >>98596368>worse in the two categories you want them for>improvementthe shit people say online
i was just thinking about potential units for world eaters and landed on the idea for a war hounds unit (get it?)
>>985963910/10
Fuck up that Feirros doesn't have a grav gun, or a terminator suit, or an iron halo, and doesn't count as a techmarine
>>98596359Hand of the Archon has been removed but it is an upgrade sprue for the Kabalite kit they are refreshing, so the sprue won't work with the new kit.
Wew, managed to preorder these. I can't wait for them to not be in the codex gain.
Should I bring a hive tyrant to a 500 point game?
>>98596390Look againThey aren'tRemove tactical rock from Centurion and use not squatting aggressor They are the same picture
>>98596398>Kabalite kit they are refreshingHow do we know that? Fatrak said that? Do we know what else they're refreshing?
>>98596401They are part of the 40k range now, anon
>>98594979Got to work on my dakkarig a bit, forgot to take a new pic but I'm working on the pilot now.What happened to collageanon? I haven't seen his submission posts this month.
>>98596405The fatrak rumors are>Kabal range refresh that has 5 kits>Refreshed kabalite warriors>New elite Kab infantry>Reapar boat refresh with a second, new build option>Vect but his bitches are replaced with a collection of xenos monsters
>>98596411>no fire drake terminators for salliesI don't care
What are you anons working on? Currently messing around with a colder tone of green for snikrot while the breaka boyz bases dry.
>>98596411Why is GW like thisWhy of all things update fucking KabalitesNOBODY wants this
>>98596411I thought he said Vect would be RIDING a giant (dino) monster
>>98596416I do. More Dark Eldar suffer, more thet thrive. They don't where the suffering comes from, as long as it does. :^)
>>98596414every time a marinefag tries to come up with a super cool designation for their OC donut steal terminator and it turns out that its "this terminator is wearing the chapter hat" i just laughit's embarassing"oh my special wolf guard terminators are terminators but they wear wolf pelts like everything else in the wolf army" cmon
>>98596404NTAhttps://minicompare.info/?devastator-centurion-b=&aggressor-flamestorm-c=
>>98596416Covens are too icky to update
>>98596368Centurions were like, spritually primaris models before primaris were even a thing.
>>98596421And that simplicity is what makes them cool.
>>98596423looks like they are the same picture
>>98596416Everything older than 6th ed is on the list of shit GW considers on the list to need eventual updating
>>98596415Painting my magus for GSC.
>>98596430Kabalites should be the last Deldar Kits to refresh
>>98596411>bitchless Vectexpected but extremely gay
>>98596435That is irrelevant to GW.
>>98596435Its the baseline for their range of course they should be updated imagine the cadian infantry were updated alongside the new updated stuff like the sentinel. you'd have infantry badly out of scale with the vehicles and artillery.
>>98596390that centurion got hip surgery and tactical rocks, centurions aren't taller
>>98596391They already have flesh hounds?
>>98596448Centurions stand on stilts, they are the original stiltmen.The great grandpappy stiltman of the modern sydonian skatros stiltmen.
>>98596398It's worse than you think. They're losing the two aircraft too.
>>98596455I wouldn't shed a tear if they squatted planes across entire game. They were clearly a mistake.
>>98596455what? why?
>>98596044Build a Space Marine army, we need to show GW that even with the squatting of old models that we love a primaris king.
god i hate primaris and everything about them
>>98596463They're removing all aircraft from the game with each Codex starting with Space Marines.
>>98596490same, I hate marines and everything about them
>>98594171Nids turn 2 was pretty good. Killed an immolator, took the other two low, and almost wiped out the Sacresants by lowering them to just Junith and the Hospitaller. Sadly the Swarmlord failed his charge into them to finish them off. Very importantly, they flipped the center objective with the swarm of gaunts.To their credit, the Sacresants survived almost the entire nid army shooting at them. They're in cover, they have their -1 to wound special rule, they have 3+4++, and they have 5+ FNP. So they did the job that we are paying lots of points for them to do, so I can't complain. They survived over a thousand points of units shooting at them then the psychophage made it into combat and they still hung on by the skin of their teeth.The Trygon deepstruck and tried to get a cheeky Overwhelming Force on the Dominions back in the corner on that objective, but literally one single model survived the shooting and then he failed his charge. The Emperor was with her.Nids scored 10 on primary, but actually got 0 on secondary because Plunder and Defend Stronghold are scored on opponents turn and they didn't get Overwhelming Force. SoB scored their own Burden at end of nid's turn for 4 secondary. Nids: 26 and SoB: 21. What a perfect, close game. This is so much better than saturday's game.SoB turn 2 begins!
>>98596492then why keep the orks and release an ork plane detachment?Realistically, it's just that the Space Marine fliers were some of the ugliest models sold
>>98596492Why are orks keeping theirs though?
>>98596490Primaris are based and redpilled. You are cringe and bluepilled.
>>98596490>god i hate primaris and everything about them
>>98596435>>98596441I can see the logic. They wanted to update Vect. But that means his new design has to redesign both their boats and the infantry they have riding on it. So now you have to redesign all the big boats. And you need to redesign the basic armored gunners and pilots. And now you need to redesign the basic infantry kit that is supposed to look like all the models hanging off those ships.
>>98596504I bet those boats go fast.
>>98596508You'd be surprised at how slow they are
Will Dledar refresh feature better waifus among the infantry?
>>98596504imagine that thing jam packed with tau niggas looking at you like this as they are flown away
>>98596498Orks are meant to have janky rules that only kind of work. It's their faction identity.
>>98596497No its because they were old manlet vehicles, they got taken out as part of the culling
>>98596515>jam packedI don't think they have cargo capacity unless their hull works like an eldar ass and contains a pocket dimension
>>98596006Custodettes are for trannies and female-lovers
>>98596524The official term is cuntstodes
>>98596501I never asked to be an adult.
>>98596522Aren't they transports?
>>98596501A reminder the shitcast eternal fans lost their minds about half their range getting squatted and the primarisfags would react the same way.
>>98595871absolutely not. They are chaos's space wolves, and are almost as popular. After the diety legions, and black legion they are absolutely the next most popular.
>>98596549Yes, but the raiders ride on topWho the hell keeps the slaves and captives on top?
>ctrl+f space king>Zerodid it flop? I found it rather disappointing for 8 ungodly months of "hard work on a moving object" and chestnut getting saving the day 3 out of 5 episodes. chip, living saint and giga nigga titan were ebin tho.
>>98596564The only e-celeb I watch is papa meat and that’s only once in a blue moon. I don’t have anything against flash gits but I don’t care for them, or their works.
>>98596564saar, this is a 40k threadI think the hogs are unironically great designs
>>98596568Based. Still need to watch his latest puppet show video.I fucking hate grots. Every single one of those runty bastards should be kicked into a squig pen
>>98596578>I fucking hate grots.Same. Put em against the wall.My god it's been five years since I took this photo.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/qgmvkomp/septembers-miniature-of-the-month-and-collectible-coin-revealed/Free scoot
>>98596591Weren't a bunch of people on here literally yesterday doomposting about how GW isn't gonna do the mini of the month anymore?
>>98596591I thought (((they))) ended this program
>>98596501Kek
>>98596585Pic of some grots about to be wholeheartedly flattened by a stompaIf GW allowed friendly fire I would take a unit of grots every game just so I could kill them myself on turn 1 to send a message to my opponent. Not the message that I didn't need the grots, but instead the sheer extent to how much I hate grots
>>98596564>did it flop? It was always bad. It wasn't that funny or interesting to begin with.Just an actual cheap copy of 40k. A bootleg version.
>>98596591>closest GW store is on the other side of the countryIs bullshit is what it is.
>>98596591I hadn't noticed before but the RG scouts were actually painted with black sclera. Neat.
>>98596608Based. Also GW does sometimes allow friendly fire, though ironically it's almost always chaos that gets to do it. IIRC in 8th and 9th CSM had stratagems to let them fire into an ongoing combat that cultists were engaged in at the expense of misses hitting the cultists, since CSM don't give a single fuck about cultists.
>>98596338WE WUZ
>>98596599>>98596600Yes. It literally says in the article it's ending after this & being replaced in October.
>>98596616where do you live? polackville?
>>98596591>Last "traditional" mini of the monthWhat the fuck do they mean by this
>>98596338Unexpectedly redeeming my opinion of Nick Kyme. The Iron Kingdom was surprisingly decent.
>>98596622This has always seemed like a fun concept for Orks, too. Why the hell would a tankbusta care of there's some Boyz near that tinboy barge? That's just some extra things to laff at while they get blown to pieces.
>>98596629As other dude said the practice is ending and they're replacing it with something else, what we don't know yet
>>98596338>read the latest BL series! Where we follow the adventures of strong bi-curious womyn of colour who take on...
This is a tactical formation.
Primaris? more like shitmaris
>>98596501
>>98596338To push the Primaris agenda and get brownie points
>>98596622guard had it too back in 8th I believe.
>>98594858I use painting glasses, honestly didn't think I needed them but my eyesight has deteriorated quite a bit over the last few years
>>98596415I was building a goliath truck and was pretty much at the point where I have to magnetise everything if I want to play it as a truck or rockgrinder. Now im at work and will probably try paint some neophytes or purestrains
Anyone know what timezone the collage anon lives in? I'm hoping to post my entry after work but it might be a bit late
>>98596564i don't even know what that is reeks way too hard of some normalfag fotm, I will avoid it like a fireslop like this is inherently revolting to me
>tqnew thousand sons combat patrol10 rubrics ($65 190 pts)1x2 sekhetar robots ($52 85 pts)1 chaos rhino ($60 80 ots)1 infernal master ($43 100 pts)gives people a mix of shit they want, shit they don't want, and right in their price cap of 200-250 for a discount
>>98596564>>98596610
>>98596700>no tzaangors Aside from the rhino there’s nothing in there that a thousand son player would want.
>>98596627In europe yes, but I don't want to get more specific than that.
>>98596701What actually are the skin flaps on the Tau face for? Are they breathing holes?
>>985967085/10 baitSkehetar robots have been out of stock on their website since february/march 2026. The other 3 things are just window dressing as combat patrols exist for GW to clear out stuff that doesn't sell hot.
>>98596726It's their nose. males have an "I" shaped slit, females have a "Y" shaped slit.
Here's your new thunderhawk, manlet lovers.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/oi7mdstl/revealed-the-plastic-thunderhawk-gunship/
>>98596742KEEEEEK
>>98596742lmao
>>98596742GW you cheeky piece of shit
>>98596742Great, we can fight amidst the remains of a classic space marine vehicle, to remind us of all the good ones they've destroyed IRL
>>98596742Was this what they meant by "big reveal"?
>>98596742They managed to sneak in a primaris backpack in there, the fuckers.
>>98596756Article says they're showing off other things later
>>98596742They have a good sense of humor, I'll give em that.
>>98596753isn't it smaller than it should be?
>>98596762They really don't, have you ever actually read the articles, or god forbid all those comics
>>98596742GW does love to teas people with the thing. But also, people really want it. There wasn't this much attention when GW put out that 28mm scale plastic Reaver titan. Everyone was too invested in the guy (and his horse) standing on top of it.
>>98596742The video confirms the plastic titanHonestly I'd have done the opposite: full thunderhawk and ruined titan scenery
>>98596789>The video confirms the plastic titanlol
>>98596789>>The video confirms the plastic titanWhere?
>>98596564Fella, its 40k general, not kidult HH fans general
>>98596790If we didn't have an ongoing rumor about it I wouldn't have paid much attention to it, but it's obvious by now that gw knows that we know about that
>>98596796>"they'll never let you touch the plastic titan now"
>>98596742I dreamt that the reason they removed the stormraven and not the ork flyers is because they were gonna replace it with the thunderhawk (on top of the thunderhawk showing up in every single 40k videogame lately) and now this?
>>98596761I'm actually curious what they're gonna release alongside the codex. Multiparts for ETB stuff and the bike captain can't be everything.
>>98596802Good to know
>>98596742Holy kino
>>98596812>Multiparts for ETB stuff and the bike captain can't be everything.and a dreadnought and the lotd kill team for halloween>squat manlets and manlet vehicles >release undead manlets and ruined manlet vehicle
>>98596812Strong chance of a new flyer, hard to imagine they'd leave space marines of all factions without a presence in this common unit type
>>98596817>and a dreadnoughtShould be a new castraferrum. That way CSM can get both the helbrute and the decimator.
>>98596825It's just another redemptor and csm aren't getting shit, your redemptor equivalent is the defiler.
>>98596825>plastic decimatorAnon please, my wallet couldn't handle it.
>>98596591>scoutFine I guess. They shoulda done something good for the last month, like a termie
>>98596496Very strong SoB turn 2 shooting. Trygon, Swarmlord, Neurotyrant, Maleceptor, Gaunts, all died. SoB flipped the middle back to control 3 objectives. Only lost one immolator to an ongoing combat.Nids scored their Defend Stronghold for 5 bringing them to 31. SoB scored 15 on primary, 5 on Burden, 3 on Engage on All Fronts, and 5 for Secure No Man's Land for a big 28 point turn, brining them to 45. Nids hold on to Plunder and Overwhelming Force, and SoB hold on to no cards going into turn 3.Nids are down to only barbgaunts, 2 exocrine, and the tervigon. So a comeback will be an uphill battle. This happened fast, they had most of their army last turn, but the Immolators and Vahl did a lot of good shooting.This does look like it'll be a SoB victory in the long run. But you never know! I really enjoy these closer games, and holding on to secondary cards does allow for comebacks.
>>98596832The defiler is way bigger than the redemptor.
>>98596742>Here's your new thunderhawk, manlet lovers.not the first time they did thishttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/Cm6Gq614/blow-your-enemies-out-of-the-skies-with-the-first-ever-plastic-thunderhawk-gunship/>>98596796here's your chaos reaver, bro
>>98596742It'd be funny if this is just them yanking our chain and they will reveal an actual plastic thunder hawk kit later.
>>98596845Considering that to make this kit they need an actual 3D sculpt of the thing it's coming sooner or later.
>>98596842not enough to matter
>>98596844Anyone ever seen someone use this guy
Will they make two separate thunderhawks, one for 40k and one for 30k?
>>98596849Having a 3d asset for it is not the limiting part of getting the kit out.It's far more likely HH would do it.
>>98596854Only if the 40k shoots themselves in the foot and makes a primaris thunderhawk instead of just a thunderhawk, but most likely not.
>>98596850Brother the base is almost twice as big.
>>98596844Almost forgot they made this guy. Dunno why they wanted to make him look like an AOS model, but that's all I can think of when I see him.
>>98596854Doubt it. They've started to remove the retardation of not sharing kits they introduced in 10th. Custodes and Knights have fully integrated shared miniatures. AdMech next unless GW hates free money.
why would you even used loaded dice to play warhammer anyway? so fucking bizarreits always a fucking jeet
>>98596867The base isn't the model.
>>98596869Huh? What about this guy says AoS?
>>98596871Horus Heresy is getting Daemons in exchange for sharing Custards
>>98596880His dorky ass halloween store armor, complete with sun rays coming out of the helmet?
>>98596857They'll make the thunderhawk for 40k because it'll sell better there.
>>98596874No but the model is twice as wide and a third taller.
>>98596901Or they can make it for both and get extra sales at no extra cost?
>>98596753Right? They'll update the kit to put the fucking primaris cyclinders on the wings so the morons here can start talking about 'thunderhawks with primaris characteristics'
Unpopular opinion:Killing off Yarrick may have been a stupid decision from a lore perspective, but bringing him back is an even worse decision. It shows GW has no spine or creative integrity and will cave to fan demands.
>>98596907>twice as wide and a third talleronly due to spider legsdo you think the skitarii stratos is two times the size of a normal skitarii?
>>98596923>the legs aren't part of the model
>>98596921I'm more amaze by the fact that you thought they'd kill Yarrick for real.
>>98596914So far it looks like it's the exact same as the aeronautica model.
>>98596921Go see what Disney's 'creative intregrity' did for Star Wars (dead series).
>>98596921I think the Steel Legion capitulation did that way worse and way more immediately.
>>98596921lol *if only* they caved to our demands normally dude
>>98596932You're a retarded guard hater. We wipe our asses with what you think, fat pig.
>>98596921killing yarrick wouldn't have been a stupid decision because characters should be tied to their respective events instead of bouncing around like superheroes yarrick should have died with the nth war for armageddon to angronabbadon should have died with cadia in the 13th black crusadedante should have died in the devastation of baalcalgar should have died at ohgram or vigilus
>>98596926>"N-n-no guys, t-t-t-this was totally planned by GW all along!!!!!"Cope. Stop defending the fact that GW fucked up on the lore and then fucked up even more by trying to undo the first fuck up. When it comes to creative writing, the only thing worse than making a narrative mistake is trying to fix the narrative mistake.
>>98596914I, too, hate it when people notice deliberate design decisions.
>>98596931It's honestly impressive to mismanage something like Star Wars that badly. Like they literally could have done nothing with the IP after buying it and probably make their money back in a few years just from like, merch sales from the stuff that already existed.
>>98596948Retarded ones.
>>98596944Guard is literally the only army I play, retard. Try again.
>>98596944Why is decalfag larping as a guardfag now?
>>98596958Because I'm not the decal mutant, you stupid fuck. Retard don't fucking @ me again, schizo fuck.
>>98596953>when my fellow guardfags stood up for their faction, that was the worst thing ever to happen to the game!Stop larping, damn idiot.
which faction is the most hoppy ipa epic baconsauce narwhalpilled?
>>98596945Dante isn't allowed to die because he wants to die.
>>98596885This may come as a surprise to you but aos does not have a monopoly on sunrays
>>98596924Lets say gw released a redemptor that's exactly the same as the current one but replaces the legs for spindlier wider ones that sacrifice armour for speedWould you suddenly not consider it a redemptor equivalent because the base is wider?
>>98596960If the decalfag isn't larping as a guardfag why are you guardfag larping as the decalfag?
>>98596947You are so far up your own ass it's kind of amazing. I didn't defend shit, I said it as what it is. A GW's marketing ploy.I don't give a shit about Yarrick or his death, I don't give a shit about anything IG related.
>>985969641. ultramarines2. necrons (forma de negra biblioteca)3. votann (forma de roca profunda galactica)
>>98596974This may come as a surprise to you but decalmutant does not have a monopoly on colourful language at the end of sentences.
>>98596983what colorful language?
>>98596945Agreed. What I don't get is why GW doesn't do something similar to what BattleTech does and have different narrative eras your games can be set in which would determine which units and characters can be used. That would allow them to kill off characters in the narrative and being in fresh ones, while still giving people a reason to buy the old character models alongside the new ones.
I don't want to believe the whole Commissar Yarrick thing was a pivot on the part of the Design Studio because that means that not only were they going to replace him with the foid dyke bitch Commissar Graves but that they also thought it was a good idea initially.
hope they reveal today that oath of moment is gone. what a boring shit ass rule that was
>>98596645Can I get "Things I'm Exaggerating So I Can Be Mad" for 800, Alex?>>98596724Just hop in your car and drive the 30 minutes it takes to get to the other side then.
just remembered what they did to creed... feel like shit man just want him back...
>>98596970It would be a bigger model. But you still ignore that defilers are bigger even without the legs and with way more weapons. It's simply not an equivalent.
THE GENESEED MUST FLOWhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/betdve0h/new-space-marines-infantry-revealed/
>>98597010he is not dead, at least.
>>98596996We already know it's replaced by doctrines.
>>98597016Yep, these sure are space marines (that we saw last week)
>>98597000Lay off the estrogen, pal.
>>98596994I wouldn't doubt that was the plan.
>>98597016Did the intercessor squad really need a refresh?
>>98597016Didn't they already reveal these?
>>98596913Doubtful since GW doesn't like system crossing kits.
>>98597013>even without the legswrong>with way more weaponsalso wrongboth have one weapon per arm, one thoracic weapon system, plus a pair of small weapons here and there
>>98597016dont care still picking up mk IVs for csm instead
>>98597029For a space marine basic infantry sprue yes it was positively ancient
>>98597016wow, it's all so fucking boring
>>98597031you make this statement the day after they just released a custodes HH/40k box.
>the current primaris range is going to get a refresh before deldarMay the ritual posting continue
>>98596990This is retarded because 40k already had that built in with the 10k years of stagnation and already had plenty of playable characters that were dead in lore. They ruined this with primaris.
>>98597016>not even token mk7 helmetsGrim.
>>98597046before you could argue for games in m34-m41 range, now its all m42.999 slop because retards couldn't shut up about "moving the narrative"
>>98597016>ornate relic weaponSo I guess this is how they call relic blade now.
If my Chaos Daemons get split into each Cult Legion I will be extremely pissed off. Doing that is even worse than what happened with Harlequins and Deathwatch. At least in both of those cases you can still field your old full Harlequin armies or full Deathwatch armies in Eldar and Agents Codex's.With Daemons my army will get split into 5 fucking factions with none of them having enough points to be full armies. Be'Lakor will go to CSM while each god's daemons will go to their specific cult legions. I will go from a multi thousand point army to having to buy 1000-1500 points worth of marines from each Chaos Legion just to have playable armies. Only worse squatting than this is what happened to actual squats.
>>98597050mk7 is for Vanguard veterans only
>>98597016how did fucking intercessors lose equipment options?
>>98597026Get back on T, buddy, your voice is getting that rising inflection again.
>>98597060What options did they lose?
>>98597016Yep these sure look like all the other space marines
>>98597050Got 4 custodes and a dreadnought all assembled in one hobby session. I think doing 5 models is okay assembling speed right? The dreadnought was a pain to build....
>>98597057Demons aren't an army and you're a cuck for getting demons in the first place.
Btw I'm not too familiar with the lore. But if the Primaris Helmets are mk10 while the iconic helmets are mk7 what happened with mk8 and mk9 helmets?
>>98597066the bolt rifle variants, they had 3 versions: normal, scoped, and with drum mags
>>98597071Mk8 never left the prototype phase so production was very limited to a few suits per chapter. Only the deathwatch had the resources to kit every single marine with it. Mk9 doesn't exist because mkX apparantly isn't Mk10 it's the letter X because primarisfags think Elon Musk is a very clever person.
>>98597068ive built 2 of them and the only annoying part is that the torso connector piece on the manual is shown in a very flat, confusing way, and maybe magnetizing the first hand with remaining 7 being easy peasy
Am I crazy or does World Eaters have few unique units compared to Death Guard, Emperor's Children, and Thousand Sons? Also how come these other Chaos Codexes for those 4 aren't Supplements for the Chaos Space Marine Codex?
>>98597071mk8 was the one deathwatch marines had and a few random models, it was never actually completed and put into widespread production across the imperium and its look was at the end of the day similar to mk7 with some additional armor plates.mk9 not being a thing is a microsoft joke.
>>98597071Mk 8 helmets are the same as Mk 7, and GW never bothered to develop Mk 9 like i don't think there is any artistic depiction of it
>>98597071We don't talk about those.
>>98597074They were merged into one stat-line last editionRemains to be seen if the new sprue will have enough bits to model them all as any one variant
>>98597074Considering they should be carrying boltguns and bolt rifles shouldn't exist, they lost too little.
>>98597016>>98597023Is it just me or do these vanguard veterans look like they have more ornamentation than the ones that came in the Armageddon starter box?
>>98597081>Also how come these other Chaos Codexes for those 4 aren't Supplements for the Chaos Space Marine Codex?Death Guard already have like 50 unique units and now you want to open up the entire CSM codex to them?
>>98597081Because the World Eaters in lore are not just incredibly simple but are also a dying breed of just Khorne Berserkers.
>>98597088bolt rifles are boltguns autist, not replying to whatever you type back btw
>>98597036Why is this a meme? Tactical squads got updated in 1998 and then again in 2013. That's 15 years between updates.
>>98597045Vanguard Veterans themselves got a kit in the same edition as the bulk of the Drukhari units in 5e, then had a new refresh in 6e, and are now getting another refresh
>>98597039Because it's custodes, the range is already small as fuck. So not point in cutting it in half, custards essentially got "grandfathered in" in both systems due to their small range.
>>98597092No, it's about the same. You just see the tabards now because they contrast the armour a lot better than the black on red from Armageddon.
>>98597023I FUCKING HATE THOSE LITTLE SHIELDS SO MUCH BROS ITS UNREAL
>>98597081thre is not really much you can do with an army that is "i get angry and run at you"
>>98597028i need her to peg me
>>98597016Those are certainly space marines. Probably should've thrown the grogs a bone and give the kit some special weapons so the tacs to ints proxy pipeline isn't a complete fuckshow, but in all fairness this kit was probably made years before whatever retard in a suit decided on getting rid of tacs.
>>98597105but those tiny shields are reference to the classic era
>>98597081world eaters don't have fewer unique options than ts or ec, but they do have fewer than dg.they aren't supplements because the armies aesthetics are slightly off so not all options would fit neatly but mostly because gw wants you to buy as many as the unique new products instead of having multiple books to play with your already existing csm models.
>>98597109They decided on getting rid of tacs the day they came up with Primaris, anon
>>98597105That's just how storm shields look?
>>98597105True, why can't they have bladeguard shield
>>98597114
>>98597088>Considering they should be carrying boltgunsThey are carrying them.
>>98597096why is dis nigga ignoring 3 starter sets worth of tac marine models?
>>98597124Because monopose models exclusive to a starter set are not kit refreshes.
>>98597016Shield in a right hand is an abomination. Kill them all!
>>98597079agreed. the instructions were really bad on the dreadnought. It actually took me a couple of hours to figure put how to assemble it. Plus it has a ton of really annoying small parts. it felt like assembling a smaller knight
>>98597108At least you didn't say fist.
>>98597123>All 10 of the bodies can use any of the arms in the kit, split between 10 two-handed bolt rifles
>>98597127tell that to all the armies that didn't get shit, you dumb nigga
>>98597016notice how the necrons are attempting to hit marines with their gauss rifles in meleeThis is a reference to the fact that Gauss is now as effective as a lasgun against space marines
>>98597133yeah, that's what the article is saying, they are all carrying bolt guns, do you have trouble reading?
>>98597135it is kind of funny that a weapon that can flay your atoms has a bayonet
>>98597136>bolt rifle
>>98597081TS seem like a lot but are starving due to half of it being AoS stuffEC sorta tried to learn from WE release but still not enoughDG were the "safe" pushed option even before they got separated into their own army where they full support on daemon engines as well which argueably should've been more on khorne side as industry's part in war but again - safe push for being "different" than one note murderhobos
>>98597135No, gauss flayer has lethal hitsAnd at least one of them is using a reaper instead, which has some AP as well
>couldn't even be bothered to give the sergeant a combi weaponWhy do they hate tacticals so much they want to erase everything about them?
>>98597129Space Marines are all ambidextrous, rightoid.
>>98597149But the back banner! It's back!
>>98597149Harder to keep using them, they want you to buy Intercessors, not just keep using your old Tacs as them, despite this 'legendary proxy' nonsense
Collage?
>>98597140You can have it in any color you like so long as it's black
>>98597081>Chaos Codexes for those 4 aren't Supplements for the Chaos Space Marine Codex?Because fuck you that's whyCheeky shit thought he'd buy a bunch of CSM shit and then do a rules change to World Eaters or Death Guard.
>>98596880He wears Lumineth colths under armor
>>98597159But this doesn't make me want to buy intercessors, quite the opposite.
>>98597156A) I know that they are ambidextrous.B) Shield/bow in a right hand will never look good.
Anyone here ever build the custodes tanks? Abouts how long does one take to put together?
>>98597016Will these guys have a boltrifle with a buttstock too?I remember seeing a regular intercessor that had a stock on their bolt rifle. It made them look like the marksman of the squad.Maybe I just hallucinated that or I'm mistaking it for some other model like heavy intercessors.
>>98597106>>98597094World Easters are missing-Butcher Surgeon-Berzerker cavalry on juggernauts-Red Butcher Terminators-Terminator lord like that limited edition guy but actually usuable-berzerkers with heavy weapons-berzerkers with jump packs-berzerkers on bikes-all the forge world daemon engines in plastic like the decimator and brass scorpionAll of this is very easy to game out but GW has fleshed out the post-2023 roster of cultists and Khorne possessed instead.
>>98597185>Forgot Teeth of Khorne
One of you fuckers posts in /smg/.
>>98597058Makes sense. Mk7 is a rare relic helmet now, not every greenhorn dipshit is going to get one.
>>98597183its all in pretty big pieces so pretty short build anon
>>98597185
>>98597140a rifle is a gun, a bolt rifle is a bolt gunare you dense or esl?
>>98597195Why would it be rare of a relic if they can keep making as many as they want like they were doing like 10 minutes ago and have been doing for 10k years?
I've seen a few conversations here about the Photoshop jobs on model box art, and specifically how they're rather boring lately.Looking at the new Ork kit boxes, it's pretty interesting how they're making an effort to somewhat hide the bases and make the models look like they're actually traversing the terrain on the box.A small detail but one I'd like to appreciate.
>>98597185How much precedent is there for them to actually have those things when they don't think strategically & don't have the ability to make tech? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi7M6lfDhjo
>>98597201A pistol is a gun. A machine gun is a gun. Are bolt pistols and heavy bolters the same weapon as bolt rifles?
>>98597204because 3-2-1 backups are tech heresy
>>98597204it's a relic because it belonged to someone cool, not because it can no longer be produced
>>98597185free my knigga kytan, he deserves more than being a CK proxy
>>98597204>Why would it be rare of a relic if they can keep making as many as they want likeYou'd think that but sadly the Imperium lost the STC to make those helmets.All the STCs for them situated on forgeworlds and planets that were directly in the path of the Cicatrix Maledictum, they are lost now.
>>98597210>A pistol is a gun. A machine gun is a gun. Are bolt pistols and heavy boltersalso bolt guns, yes, correct you're doing baby steps, I'm proud of you
>>98597206What kind of retarded post is this>how much precedent is there for them to have things they already have had
>>98597185>red butcher terminatorsis this the thing where marines talk about their super special terminators and it's just regular terminators in (chapter colour) with (chapter gimmick)
>>98597140Bolt rifles are just boltguns.>>98597210>this midwit again
>>98597222deathwing knights are kino doe
>>98597222yes you see they have 2 chainfists instead of 1 per squad of 5
>>98597222Yes, in this case it's not even actually a good design
>>98597221Had when they weren't mentally crippled to be rage fueled berserkers with only the desire to kill you mean? After war that destroyed their ranks & left them as incompetent forces striking the Imperium randomly?
>>98597225They are bolt weapons. A boltgun is a specific weapon and bolt rifles aren't it which is why they get a different name and different rules.
>>98597225>that time a scout marine cut the barrel off his bolt shotgun and was immediately killed by his chapter master
>>98597230Literally all of that shit is BERZERKER jump packs BERZERKER bikers BERZERKERS with heavy weaponsHow do you literally not understand the words written right there
>>98597240>A boltgun is a specific weaponIt's not.>bolt rifles aren'tThey are just boltguns.
>>98597222there's more lore written about chapter/legion specific terminators than anything in your shitty xenos faction
>>98597222Chaos terminators are an old design and not very good.
>>98597253Those are fine I guess. But if they're fully Khorne corrupted then just give them the juggernauts instead of bikes.
>>98597257you can tell this struck a nervesorry buddy, we're all laughing at the chainaxe guys who hae chainaxe terminators and think that it's a super special unique unitsame level as wolves who add wolf to everything and expect to be taken seriously
>>98597185>Red Butcher TerminatorsHorus heresy is right there for you man.
>>98597250>that time brother ATFius committed tech heresy by putting a stock on his bolt pistol and demons started pouring out of the barrel
>>98597266They literally have a detachment called red butchers that buffs terminators, stop being afag.
>>98596637A paint-in-store sample with a single dedicated model (or set of models you can choose from, 1 40k 1 AoS) that rotates sporadically is the most likely thing they'd do>forces you to stay in-store (so less selling them online)>forces you to interact with Citadel paints and paint products (to incentivize buying them)>forces you to stay in the store for longer (so you have more chance of buying something to go along with your newly painted model)
Here I was thinking a 'reveal' would actually include something GW themselves hadn't literally already showed us, silly me
>>98597253At least it's not like the Space Wolves who use wolf like how the Smurfs (actual Smurfs,not Ultramarines) use 'smurf'.
>>98597185>-Butcher Surgeoncan be a throwaway pity hero, can be expected >-Berzerker cavalry on juggernautsshould just use bloodcrushers led by the lord on jugg>-Red Butcher Terminatorsshould just use normal terminators and mutilators >-Terminator lord like that limited edition guy but actually usuablecan be a throwaway pity hero, can be expected >-berzerkers with heavy weaponsshould just use normal havocs >-berzerkers with jump packsshould just use normal raptors>-berzerkers on bikesshould just use normal bikers>-all the forge world daemon engines in plastic like the decimator and brass scorpionyeah, this is important but in hindsight the blood slaughter is not that visually different from the venomcrawler and the defiler, so it's better if they have access to those and focus on a kit for the brass scorpionbut also they should get exclusive use of the lord of skull, better access to demons and the slaughterbrute, access to traitor guards and the lord discordant, and arguably it would be better if the brass scorpion was a generic csm thing they also had access too rather than an exclusive we thing, since they already have the lord of skull as big overly khornate demon engine
>>98597286>should just use bloodcrushers led by the lord on juggthose models are 20 years old and require a special detachment
>>98597290The age doesn't matter, the kit is perfect, and the rules should be changed to make them more available.
>>98597286>>-berzerkers with heavy weapons>should just use normal havocs >>-berzerkers with jump packs>should just use normal raptors>>-berzerkers on bikes>should just use normal bikers>should just use normal terminators and mutilators World Eaters explicitly cannot use these because they are associated with iron warriors and nigt lords, the same goes for the other cult legionsYou are suggesting 'clever' solutions that do not work in practice, like every other midwit tard on 4chan on every single board.>just eat rice and beans to save money bro!>news: rice prices skyrocketing in 2026
>>98597298>because they are associated with iron warriors and nigt lordsthat's a terrible and hypocritical reasonno, iron warriors are not the only ones to use havocs, and no, night lords are not the only ones to have raptorsteeth of khorne wouldn't look any different than a havoc marine and a berserker with jump pack wouldn't look much different than a raptor if you argue that they are or should be you should get hanged by the balls while people bash you with metal dreadnoughts in a sock.
>>98597256A boltgun or bolter is 24" rapid fire 1 ap- damage 1
>>98597284Space Wolves have come around and are much better written and fleshed out, the World Eaters are still drooling retards.
>>98597328fuck off decalfag
>>98597309>that's a terrible and hypocritical reasonWe've been over this beforeIt doesn't matter what you thinGW thinks this way, they will not get havocs or mutilators you dumb fag.
>>98597335I don't get it.
>>98597333Don’t respond to me ever again
any STLs of the old defiler?
>>98597337>GW thinks this wayBy the way GW thinks they are not going to give you jump pack berserkers, teeth of khorne, bersekers cavalry, berserker bikers, red butchers, or decimators either, you fucking retard.At least what I'm suggesting is practical and easy to implement.
>>98597345Bolt rifle too long. Bolt carbine looks good and proper.
>>98597353no james, you have purged them all so stop asking
>>98597352FUCK OFF DECALFAG
>>98597298you have a limited understanding of the chaos legions, world eaters absolutely can use those units.
>>98597360drats, foiled again!there was apparently one on cults a few months ago but all i can find now are the new one & an epic scale version
>>98597358They look too small, the marine holding it looks like he's holding his pee in.
>>98597256A boltgun is s4ap0 damage 1 with rapid fire 1A bolt rifle is s5ap-1 damage 1 with assault and rapid fire 1, or s6ap-1 damage 2 with heavy and rapid fire 1Ergo a bolt rifle is not a boltgunIf they were the same, then they would have the same damage profile and the same name, but they don't, meaning the difference is significant enough for bolt rifles to be considered "not boltguns."
>>98597373Bolt guns also changed their rules since their introduction, guns don't stop being the same gun just because they happen to get rescaled slightly or buffed.
>>98597358Carbines are too small, they look retarded on primaris. It's like giving a child's toygun to a 6'6" tall soldier. It looks dumb as fuck. >but muh CQCEverytime we see marines fighting in close quarters with melee weapons they are just using some form of pistol and melee weapon. Not carbines or bolt rifles.Also 99% of the depictions for marines fighting shows them in open air areas with plenty of room to fight, so the "muh cramped spaces" argument is shit too.
>>98597373Ok but all new terminators are primaris.
>>98597373Rules and stat changes are meaningless and irrelevant.This is like saying that firstborn marinelets stopped being space marines because GW gave them 2 wounds.
white scars need more jetbikes>but tha-I don't care
>>98597387the "muh cramped spaces" argument is shit because the marine is already too large for cramped spaces regardless of the gun it's holding.
>>98597384Nta but bolt rifles are a class of bolter weapon, and boltgun is an acceptable umbrella term for those, that is also colloquially used to describe the standard bolter used by the space marines, sisters of battle, and the guard for 10,000 years. My question is now what's a good term that refers to that seminal weapon, and not the new cawl pattern weapon? Is bolter good enough?
>>98597387Wrong. Looks like how a bolter should look.
>>98597192I'm surprised people still go to that board
>>98597394I guess they could do veterans on bikes and have them be jetbikes, but they wouldn't be ws exclusive
>>98597401>Is bolter good enough?no, the name is bolt carabine
>>98597384If you change the name, shape and rules, why would you consider it the same weapon?
Mini of the month was model welfare for the poors
>>98597403That's perspective, retard, that bolter is not any smaller than all other bolters of its time, and the bolt rifles are just as proportioned to the marine as that bolter is to that marine.Meanwhile if you use an old bolter on a primaris it looks too small.
>>98597417>Bolt carabinerEyy niceBut anyway, they didn't call the weapon bolt carbine for those squads, and the sisters currently call theirs a boltgun.
>>98597423Again, wrong.
>>98597418Because the name, shape and rules haven't been changed much and it's fundamentally still the same for all practical purposes.A sphere is a sphere even when it's not a perfect sphere.You can disagree, but you would be wrong and stuck in a realm of platonic ideals with no memory of how the grass feels to the touch.
>>98597430No it's a spheroid
>>98597428EC marines are smaller than primaris, and lankier faggots compared to normal chaos marines, so the smaller gun still works on them while it doesn't work on the larger and less homosexual primaris marines.
>>98597016>There’s also a wealth of cosmetic accessories and head options to go around, continuing the design philosophy from the Armageddon miniatures by mixing older helmets and armour parts into the more modern and regimented Mk X Tacticus suits.That's gotta be the most lazy and disingenuous membeberries I ever saw. Wow, flat greaves that still look like MkX and bare MkX chestplate, with a pauldron that might as well be MkX with studs. They didn't even bother showcasing MkX helmet with MkVII faceplates.What's more fucked up, they recently shown how deep they could go with Red Corsairs.
>>98597016James this is the fourth time you've shown "new" intercessors and jump pack whatevers this week
>>98597436Wrong.
>>98597434no, a spheroid has an elliptical cutout, while an imperfect sphere has a spherical cutout, just imperfect; a spheroid is also still a platonic ideal and not a real thing.In reality there are only things that are close but not quite spheres or spheroids, that are nonetheless still practically spheres or spheroids, just like bolt rifles are practically still boltguns, despite your minor gripes with them.
>>98597206>don't have the ability to make tech?Khorne is a gearhead what are you talking aboutHe's the only chaos god that has daemon engines in his daemonic legions outside of Soul Grinders
>>98597447No I think that's fair. Bolt rifles are boltguns in the same way that Primaris marines are still marines.
>>98597430>Because the nameIt changed as much as between boltgun and heavy bolter.>shapeIt's a third longer, throwing off the proportions completely.>and rulesRules are completely different, more than between boltguns and storm bolters ever were, even more now.By your own logic, bolt rifles and bolt carbines are the exact same weapon, yet they aren't.
>>98597445Scouts have smaller bolters because they have smaller silhouettes due to their reduced pauldrons and boots, a lighter weapon fit for a lighter trooper, but unfit for an actual primaris marine like the intercessors.
>>98597253my love for you is like a truck
>>98597456This isn't a scout you retard.
Flyers are my favorite things in 40k. It’s a shame James hates them
>the non push fit vanguard nuveterans will be less mediocre trust memy sides
>>98597286Half the shit you're saying to just use you cannot use in the world eaters codex you fucking braindead niggerfaggotKill yourself immediately
>>98597452>It changed as much as between boltgun and heavy bolter.No, it didn't, the heavy attribute significantly changes the concepts surrounding the weapon, going from bolt gun to bolt rifle changes practically nothing to the meaning of the name, thus practically nothing to the name as well.>It's a third longer, throwing off the proportions completely.no, the gun is longer proportionally to how the marine is taller, the proportions of the gun are essentially identical to the ones boltguns have had to their marines in their earliest models.>Rules are completely different, the game is completely different, marines are T5 with 2 wounds, relatively speaking the rules of the guns have the same role and effect as they always didby your own logic the boltguns of one edition and the bolters of another are completely different guns, they aren't.You're wrong, and dumb, and cursed to seethe about being wrong for at least another 10 years.
>>98597437>top middle and center are MK7 chestplaces>bottom middle is mk2>everything else is ???some armor autist who can correctly identify every piece of armor?
>>98597461And it's only using the gun one handed like a heavy pistol because the other hand is occupied by a power fist.A lighter weapon for a lighter use.
>>98597471Anon, you idiot, you absolute bafoon. There's actual boltguns with the name boltgun and completely different rules IN THE MARINE CODEX. Let alone in CSM and SoB, IG and whatnot.
>>98597471Bolters were the same from 3rd to 10th though. The only reason bolters were 2 shots on tacticals is because they baked in bolter discipline.
>gets his dear updated flyer>still shits and pisses himself in a melty
>>98597476Wrong again.
>>98597469>you cannot usethe rules should be changed so they can be used, that's the point what country's tax dollars are sustaining your mental retardation's waste of oxygen?
>>98597486No, the rules should not be changed to give us shittier warband agnostic units when the death guard have a full fucking rangeBlow your brains out, never post again you subhuman retard
>>98597485one of them only looks fine because he's using it like a heavy pistol, for the other it looks way too small, going back to >>98597370you have no ground to stand on
So if they are completely rewriting every bolt weapon in the game anyways due to the T5 marine change, what was the point of making +1 boltguns instead of just... buffing the boltgun? When they buffed fleshborers to S5 in 9th they didn't make a whole ass separate weapon called fleshrender to do it, they just buffed fleshborers.
>>98595770YOUR MOTHER WAS A HAMSTERAND YOUR FATHER SMELT OF ELDERBERRIES.Go away before I taunt you a second time.
>>98597492That's how boltguns are supposed to look. They are versatile so that they can be fired one handed or two handed. Bolt rifles look retardedly long two handed and completely laughable one handed. They simply don't look like boltguns and don't work as the standard basic weapon for marines.
>>98597250short barreled bolt rifles are heretical
>>98597437bronze with blue looks cute
They should put a maulerfiend in combat patrol
>>98597437I find it so funny that in order to play marines the only correct source of them is in the Chaos marine range.Since loyalist no longer have marines
>>98597490The death guard needs more exclusive miniatures because their aesthetic is less compatible with the generic stuff, you'll notice I'm not suggesting to give them normal havocs or raptors, nor their own versions of them.They are a different army with different looks and requirements.Meanwhile the world eaters are the closest of the legions to the generic chaos units and benefit the most from using those and then keeping the release slots for their unique things to provide actually new things instead of a redundant kit of chaos marines with heavy weapons (but bunny ears!) or a redundant kit of chaos marines with jump packs (but bunny ears!).What mental retardation makes you want a chaos marines (red) army and then shit your pants at the idea of using chaos marines units?
>>98597524>Meanwhile the world eaters are the closest of the legions to the generic chaos unitsNever post again you subhuman shitskinned retard
>>98597475>top middle and centerNo those are mkiv chestpiecesFrom left to right top to bottom>MkII chest and cuisses with mkvi schynbald>mkiv chest, artificer greaves>Mkvi pretty much, mkiii power pack>MkVI with extended vent power pack, iirc those were either a mkv or mkvii design >Mkiv>Hard to tell. Pretty much custom, the power pack is a mkiii>Mkvi with a mkiii pack. A lot of these have a mkvi schynbald on one leg and an enclosed greave that doesn't have a loyalist equivalent, closeish to a mkvii that evokes mkiii>MkVI legs, mkiii chest and pack>MkviiThat's my best guess. They're also very much a more gothic version of all of those. Custom made I imagine
>>98597503>That's how boltguns are supposed to look. They are versatile so that they can be fired one handed or two handed.No, the use of boltguns as heavy pistols was exceptional just like it's exceptional but possible to use a bolt rifle one handed now.If boltguns were normally used one handed with no issue bolt pistols wouldn't be a thing.Now the boltguns look too small for primaris marines.
I would actually love a plastic thunderhawk. Would probably be unviable to take more than one per game but it would be an awesome centrepiece.
>>98597528Your anger at facts doesn't make them any less true.Stop behaving like a woman.
98597524You're SO desperate for attentionFind more than one catchphrase next time you want to shit up our general
>>98597533You just don't like space marines. Which is fine. But then your opinion on how space marines should look is irrelevant.
>>98597539They're not facts they're the delusions you have to pipe yourself with to keep your shitposts going you stupid fucking nigger
>>98597539Men are by far more emotional
>>98597546stop giving the shitposter attention
>>98597546>They're not factsYes, they are, you're free to post a plague marine next to a khorne berserker next to a chaos legionary and argue that the plague marine looks closer to the legionary than the berserker.It will only show that you are the delusional one.
98597559You have to try harder than that
>>98597545>You just don't like space marines.You are the one who's been seething and moaning about them for the past 10 years. You're the one who doesn't like marines. You're the one whose opinions are factually wrong, and irrelevant.
>>98597569Tbf if someone has been complaining for ten years that they fucked up their marines, I'd claim they care more than anyone
>>98597556Who said anything about emotions?I said to stop behaving like a woman.
as an eldar player i want to thank all marinepiggies for keeping my game alive so i can continue stomping at the lgs
>>98597511That'd be a renegade Celestial Lion, a chapter almost as unlucky as the Lamenters, they've basically been on a knife's edge of chapter strength ever since they made the mistake of raising a stink over an Inquisitor calling an exterminatus on a planet that had been host to a Slaaneshi cult, *after* the Lions had dedicated 4 companies to a seemingly successful campaign to cleanse it. Some oddly specific coincidences that contributed to their being understrength occurred afterwards like them losing a flagship to a freak warp transition accident, or being consistently targeted by "Ork Snipers" on a campaign later.
>>98597577People can complain about absolutely retarded things for their entire lives, it wouldn't make them right just because you think that's the behaviour of someone who cares, it's the behaviour of someone who's crazy.
>>98597579no matter who loses, xenoCHADs win (except in the refresh department)
>>98597569>moaning about them for the past 10 years>why do you care so much, just let me destroy the things you likeNot even that anon, but I'm tired of this disingenuous posters.
>>98597585Crazy people care. In fact everyone else seems to be too aloof and irony poisoned to feel genuinely about anything
>>98597579Eldar are terrible on the table right now but you can try this shitpost again soon nogames-kun
>>98597592I'd argue the eldar, necron, and tau auxiliary refreshes were pretty baller.
Is OC important? I mean the game is more lethal than ever, seems much better to just wipe out your enemy than out-OC them unless you're playing a horde army
>>98597569I don't like how they've changed every little detail about marines because I actually liked how marines were.
>>98597068How do people assemble so quick? Don't you clean mouldlines, clean nubs or fill gaps or something?
>>98597592Eldar refresh was the best one probably ever. We just need a couple more units brought up to speed. And a warlock conclave box.
>>98597593>>why do you care so much, just let me destroy the things you likenobody said this, I'm not even saying you can't care about your opinion, I'm saying anon's opinion is objectively wrong and retarded, and that he's crazy for holding an objectively wrong and retarded opinion for 10 years.
>>98597608You don't care about marines if you hate marines for lacking little details.
>>98597612nta but newer models usually come with less gaps even on vehicles and for shitty parts like the achillus/galatus shins that don't always line up seemlessly a spruegoo with lil sanding is enough.Personally i do it like with gunpla - 2 cuts, swing with knife, 2 swipes with correct file/sandpaper and off it goes as paint will take care of marks. Sometimes even the misgivings don't interrupt the build and are completely covered by other parts so there is no reason to go that hard on them
>>98597579I don’t thank people who only eat Big Macs for keeping McDonald’s in business so I can enjoy nuggets. You shouldn’t thank piggies for eating slop.
>>98597605not even GSC can play around out OCing, they get multiple 20 man wiped a turn on the regular against anyone even remotely killy.
>>98597648anon is sarcastic, he's not actually thanking anyone, he knows the pigs buy the slop regardless of what anyone says, the thanks are actually an insult
>>98597016Lightning Claw erasure continues...
>>98597644You lack reading comprehension.
>>98597612Yea some of it but I don’t scour the model for every minor imperfection when it’s clearly not visible upon initial inspection or from tabletop
>>98597016Another "look at the cool shit those guys got" release.Ah well. Orks are eating good so I can bear to part with marines. I'll miss them though.
Are they turning thosuand sons into discount iron warriors
>reveal new terrain >its literally unplayable because terrain templates
>>98597660You mean twin relic weapons.>>98597016Woooow so exciting.
>>98597660To be fair a single lightning claw should just be a power weapon.>>98597683You can put whatever you want on top of the terrain areas and nothing about the rules says you need to use the tournament specific areas.
>>98597679Not until Iron Warriors end up with AoS hand-me-downs.
>>98597653The only time I recall GSC being resilient was during 9th with the Iconward and bike combo.Bike naturally having a T4 W2 Sv4+, -1 to being hit.Iconward giving reviving D3 modelsYou could also add a feel no pain of 6+
>>98597662I don't, I know what you said, and I know what I said.If you liked marines but also liked the little details they had, you wouldn't hate the current marines for lacking those details, you would just like them less than the previous marines, because if you liked marines you would still like the current marines because they are marines.Instead you hate the current marines, but hating marines for lacking a few little details only shows that you don't actually like marines, you just like the little details.This is of course absurd, there's nobody who just likes the little details, the truth is much simpler, you hate marines and are using those few little details that have been changed as retroactive excuse to hate on them, regardless of whether you actually like or not the changes to those details.
>>98597016god damn i hate it when units are jumping off bases. Looks like shit.
>>98597704Also makes them unwieldy game pieces in a lot of cases.
>>98597701> I know what you saidClearly you don't because I said every little detail which isn't the same as "only a few details".>if you liked marines you would still like the current marines because they are marines.That just denotes surface level care.
>>98597645>>98597669I guess I'm just too autistic
>>98597701>pretending to not understand
>>98597437If only the box had more then FIVE
>>98597688Pleasr stop lying, you need to use things that physically fit on the terrain footprints, can be placed in the approximate locations shown and that will also accommodate models being placed on the template at the same time. You can use whatever you want so long as it meets specific requirements that the thunderhawk terrain does not meet.
>>98597707I didn't say "only a few details".every little detail IS a few details >That just denotes surface level care.no, the surface level care is stopping at surface differences and ignoring the fundamental similarities you don't actually like marines, in fact you hate them
>>98597719Ideal number for playing the correct way to play marines.
>>98597698it really depends what kind of units you're running, but even in 11th i play 20 man blobs of neophytes and if they're tucked in cover it takes a lot to remove them. and you have to remove them to a man because the icons give 3+d3 models back a turn, and they're only like 7ppm, so they're very cheap. your opponent usually has to throw an inordinate amount of points of shooting at them to clear a full squad 100% in a single phase, and frankly if they're doing that, you've already wonmelee is a slightly different story though, they have a harder time because melee tends to just be more raw attacks and harder to escape from since you cant duck around a corner with a few cheeky models to regenerate, but thats why i usually tuck a few pocket units of genestealers around, to deal with threats like that.as far as attaching characters, i like to keep my neophytes cheap. like yeah i could throw an iconward on there, or i could just get another squad of neophytes for about the same cost. i just had a game a week ago and staying power didnt feel like one of the armies shortcomings, apart from its trucks which blow up instantly. the army kinda feels a bit pillow fisted now though, with the lower strength bombs, the changes to the primus, idk, felt like nothing i had really landed. i threw a full unit of acolyte bomb charges into a landraider and did maybe 2 wounds to it. those used to be great at taking down anything, even knights.
>>98597016Yawn.
Image limit again, off we go>>98597749>>98597749>>98597749
>>98597532thank you, but doesn't MKIV have that T-bone chestplate? I thought that was a more defining characteristing than X shaped tubing
>>98597712Ive been doing this for years anon and it takes me forever also. I honestly think the people that are finishing building whole squads in a day are prob just doing a bad job of cleaning them. These ETB orks from the armageddon box have taken me like 4 days and thats not including the vehicles. Or i am just as autistic as you.
>>98597683read the rules, play some games, get a clue.
>>98597016those knee studs makes no sense, since that location would be the very top of the knee pad
>>98595001pretty neat slop, thanks
