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Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>TQChaos Space Marines vs. Dark EldarBut GeeDubs won't release a box without Ultramarines so SM vs Dark Eldar instead
Space wolves should have been called Astral Reavers or some shit and had zero connection to wolves
>>98605530more like ass reavers lmao
>>98605531Let us know when your done melting down so the rest of us Primaries can actually discuss Warhammer.
>>98605528Since they're doing nostalgiaslop for starter sets now maybe 12e will redo the 3e launch box of Templars vs Dark Eldar
What have (You) been working on?Post it please
>>98605536Us? You're not part of us no matter how much you want it. I only suggested the reaver thing because vikings can be cool but disgusting furries like you ruin them.
>>98605537I don't play the faction but some of their models are really ancient so I was hoping their range refresh would come in the edition launch box, but I'd reckon Orks are the more popular faction so it makes sense business wise to go with the Orks.
>TQBlack Templars & Sisters of Battle vs Tau Empire
>>98605537>4 more years for dark eldar chuds to get non dogshit minis>and they'll be priced 5 times higherlol
>>98605525Kyaaaaaaaaa~!!!
>>98605530Space Wolves should have been renegades who worship “pagan” gods in order for them to raid monasteries and kill monks as their descendants did.
>TQAllies edition, sisters & marines vs demons & marines
>>98605584>4GW's been on 3 year cycles for over a decade now.
>>98605596>sisters & marines vs demons & marines
>>98605606yeah that changes everything
>>98605530>and had zero connection to wolvescorrect, space wolves shouldn't exist at all
>>98605536>wolf-fucks your space mouth with my night cockAve dominus cox!
James! There's only one way to save 40k! Release the Hrud!
Hrud looks dumb as fuck. Looks like something a 5 year old would draw with crayons
>>98605536notice how you’re literally the only person here who speaks of them positively, and I know its YOU because no one else thinks space wolves are cool, and no one else types like that.
You got a favorite 40K artist? Post art!
orks
>>98605538I started painting the kitbashed saboteur but can't decide on how to make a cape, I've yet to make any sculpting. I was thinking of making a small cape over the left shoulder to conceal the two arms, but now that the Cult has unveiled itself the cape can flow freely. If only I knew how make it flowing.
>>98605537This seems likely to be honest. 10th ed redid Ultras vs Tyranids from Battle for Macragge in 4th (should have had that crashed Thunderhawk terrain in it man), 11th redid Blood Angels vs Orks on Armageddon from 2nd ed, and 12th can redo 3rd ed.
>>98605633
>>98605630>Looks like something a 5 year old would draw with crayonsThat's primaris marines though
I like orks :D>>98605633Adrian Smith the fucking GOAT
>>98605630I’m pretty sure that’s the joke he’s going for when he posts it. Like a bug version of swamp thing, just dumb.
>TQSisters of Battle and Traitor GuardAccompanying releases are:>Khorne-corrupted Commissar Graves (her loyalist datasheets go to Legends)>actual traitor guard rules as a supplementary codex for Guard like the SM chapter ones>traitor guard upgrade sprue for each guard model>unique traitor guard units (some based on the Scab units in Darktide)>"Holy Lance" SoB tank>reintroduction of Crusaders that now work like Warlocks (either one model as a character or a group of 5 that can be support for a unit)
>>98605633this one is also by adrian smith looks fantastic too. its probably the reason why I bought into Emperor’s Children.
>>98605630That's because the artwork >>98605622here is not that of an actual hrud but an in-setting artist's wrong depiction of one based on a rotten specimen without its clothes and that mistakes a scavenged weapon for its actual claws hruds don't stand upright like that, aren't as big as the image makes them to be, don't have long claws, and wear clothes and wield equipment
>>98605633I loved Mark Gibbons stuff from 2nd Edition.
>>98605633Mossa
>>98605633I cant post ryona here.
>>98605633>>98605683
>>98605511Nids vs something that isn't SM. Maybe Nids vs Crons.
>>98605688excellent choice>*CHOMP* *CHOMP* *CHOMP*>BURRRRP >”HA! dat waz a big ‘un!”>*CHOMP* *CHOMP* *CHOMP*
>>98605530Space Wolves should have been called wolf reavers and have zero connection to space
>>98605536How many minis have you painted in the last month?
>>98605729I dont paint minis. I just jerk off to femboys and watch warhammer lore vids
>>98605538Not work exactly, I finished these fuckers yesterday. Trying to decide if I wanna participate in this month's collage or not. I kind of want to just finish my necrons.
>>98605511>James Workshop says you can decide the factions that fight in the 12th edition launch box. Who are you choosing?Black Templars and Dark Eldar. It'll be about that long before the DE refresh, gets to capture the kids who got 10th+ as they get edgier and recapture nostalgic whales for 3rd ed fake grog cred that will have hit peak harvest at that point.
>>98605729>>98605733
Has anyone actually painted an army badge on one of their guys? What made you want to add it? I've been thinking about using them to further distinguish marines from reserve companies that I'm using with my force.
Can tzeentch posses and corrupt wraithguards from eldari? I know slaanesh kinda wants to fuck with eldari exclsuively, but is it still a possibility?
>>98605761You said you're a primary. Surely you paint miniatures.
>Guilliman and the Lion get off their asses to kill off the Tau once and for all with a major crusade>They commit exterminatus on every Tau-controlled world they come across, turning the Tau Empire into an empty husk devoid of life>Those few Tau that manage to escape have to flee into the very warp itself to escape the Imperium's gaze>They catch the attention of Vashtorr there, who gives them the secrets of advanced technology they could never imagine>Using this new knowledge under the sway of their new minor chaos god, they start to raid Imperium worlds, kidnapping trillions, and using chaos versions of their brainwashing technology to turn these captured humans into mindless tortured husks to be thrown at the enemy by the millions>Meanwhile the Tau have embraced superweapons of their own, and use dark versions of their own exterminatus superweapons to suck planets into black holes, make suns go supernova, and even expand the warp to swallow up planets into daemon worlds pumping out new monstrous weapons>Meanwhile, their battlesuits are now instilled with the souls of daemons, and autonomously take to the battlefield, needing no pilots and being mass produced to make up for the Tau's lack of manpowerThere, I made the Tau properly grimdark.
>>98605780not for nearly a year. this is the current state of his “hobby space”, just a reminder he began those hellblasters mid october, so it’ll be a full on year soon. I’m planning on painting some before it hits out of pure spite if anyone wants to join.
>>98605769Nope. I just make homebrew chapters then do nothing with them. I do love trans women thoughsoeverbeit
>>98605772>the eldar won't even tell you how bad the canon can get for their faction, they just look at you like this now
>>98605798Your men are in disarray
>>98605794Sounds gay as shit
>>98605798>I’m planning on painting some before it hits out of pure spite if anyone wants to join.I am contractually obligated by quints to do firstborn hell blasters.
>>98605780Yea 16k pts worth fyi
>>98605806Your life is in disarrayMuch like your buckbroken legion with no successor chapters
>>98605641If you're gonna make a cloak try and find a fabric outline and shrink it to the size you need and use it as a template for either greenstuff or medical guaze
>>98605818I play ad mech, captain.
>>98605816On the past month?
>>98605511>the factions that fight in the 12th edition launch boxSomething crazy and offbeat for once.Like say -Imperium soup made up of stranded survivors from a crashed ship. It's got one squad of Marines (Tactical Firstborn with all scuffed up battle-damaged armour and every one has a different weapon/loadout), a Navigator, a squad of Naval Men-at-Arms with different gear than the existing Kill Team to expand their options (low on ammo, more melee focused?), a Tech-Priest from the ships engine room with an entourage of Servitors, a Ministorum Priest with a small bodyguard of Crusaders and Frateris Militia, a squad of Vostroyan Firstborn Veterans, a wounded one-armed Commissar who replaced his arm with a hook (or a chainsaw or something cool like that) riding on a savage alien sabre-tooth tiger creature from the local wildlife they tamed, and a big group of absolutely shredded feral-world humans with spears and bones through their noses and shit including a few Ogryn and they've got little feathered velociraptor hunting beast pets.On the opposite side is feral world Genestealer Cultists that have a different look to the industrial mining suit ones, with gilly-suit jungle foliage camouflage, primitive weapons covered in Tyranid poisons, every squad is led by a low-level psyker mutant with exposed brains, a small group of Ymgarl stealer purestrains (slightly bigger and deadlier than normal Genestealer purestrains), metamorphs with lictor-like chameleonic skin, a shamanic Magus covered in bones and feathers with a genestealer skull for a hat, and a trio of Genestealer-Zoat hybrids with the Primus riding on the back of one of them with a big flagpole hanging with skulls and shit. And the Patriarch, which is a dead mummified relic that has lingering psychic energy, decorated with bones and carvings and amber, being carried around like a funeral procession by a group of Aberrants.
>>98605798>I’m planning on painting some before it hits out of pure spite if anyone wants to join.I'm thinking of it. It'll depend on if it becomes the collage theme of the month or not.Personally I don't think it should, because even though shitting on the mutant is a beloved pastime, "paint just hellblasters" is a pretty restrictive theme. It should be more open.
>>98605639tau
>>98605772Warithbone constructs are powered by a soulstone, you could likely power one with a daemon instead wouldn't matter which kind if the plot required it.
>>98605794>Primarchs >Grimdark No.
>>98605827Sounds gay and boring
>could buy landspeeder for 50 bucksOr>could buy starter for 200 bucks and sell everything that isn't the land speeder and get a free land speeder
>>98605828Havent I suffered enough?I literally have to be me foreverI have to play this stupid fucjing wolf themed legion forever because im too fujking stubborn and gay to do anything else FUCKJ
>>98605828Another anon suggested "plasma weapons" as the theme which would allow non-marine players to participate.
>>98605807It makes things more grimdark for everyone.>The Tau are punished for their naivety and get nearly wiped out>Chaos gets ever stronger with a new major faction no longer limited by manpower thanks to warp daemons and mass mind control>The Imperium gets to finally take out the Tau, putting an end to their plot armor, but ends up empowering Chaos in the process making things worse for themselves
>>98605622>>98605679Plague monks+lasguns
I haven’t showered in a couple of days
RELEASE THE TERRAIN SPRUES
>>98605849>"plasma weapons"I'd say that's pretty good.What are all the xenos equivalents of plasma?
>>98605794Go back to sucking your girlfriend's dick bohemond.
>>98605851Nigga we already had the Fall of Cadia and the birth of the Great Rift. The Tau already had their own major event with Farsight splitting from the empire. I’m going to crack your bootyhole open if you shit out another idea
>>98605871>Fall of CadiaCadia stands>the Great Rift.Apparently niggas can just cross that shit whenever they need to look cool.
>>98605718imperium niggas will say this is disgusting then eat their liquefied mother
>>98605871>The Tau already had their own major event with Farsight splitting from the empireIt didn't result in a civil war and he only took like 5 or so planets with him, that's not really grimdark.>Fall of Cadia and the birth of the Great RiftGood, but now's the time to make the Imperium really feel the pain, things are still too optimistic.
>>98605794Tau doesn't need forced grimdark because they're not that big of a threat and they're in the process of falling by their own hand like all races.I don't know how people are too stupid to understand this but you cannot have grim dark without SOME positivity and good things happening, otherwise it's just retarded endless misery for the sake of it.Proper darkness requires light to make the fall harder.
>>98605882>only took like 5 or so planetsThat's a lot for the tau
>>98605890>they're in the process of falling by their own hand like all racesExactly. That's what this is. The Tau falling by their own hand. It needs to actually happen and not just hint at the possibility of it happening in the future. The Tau fall to Chaos, in the process becoming a much bigger threat to the Imperium, everyone loses.
>>98605595It would be more interesting and less cringe, specially if you remove most of the wolf stuff. But who cares, the color of your space marines doesn't male them a different faction.
>>98605794This is more grimderp than grimdark. Needs a bit more grimdank to be better than grimwank.
>>98605895It’s a cool idea, I wouldn’t mind seeing it happen. The Tau are just too weak in the current setting for anyone else to give them a second thought.
>>98605864>What are all the xenos equivalents of plasma?Eldar starcannonsTau all kinds of shitTyranid bio-plasmaNecrons I'm not sureOrks have zzap guns or something
>>98605905Guilliman has mentioned them by name so he at least knows about them, justifying the possibility of another crusade.
>>98605895Non psyker race falling to chaos is retarded
>>98605865I wish I had a girlfriend with a penis who’ll play Space Marine 2 with me :(
>>98605895>It needs to actually happen and not just hint at the possibility of it happening in the futureNo, retard. Nothing that major is ever supposed to "actually happen" in the timeline of the setting as we play it, the setting is meant to be more or less frozen in time so you can play games at any era without it getting dated. This is part of why Primaris are so fucking gay, if you want to play the Battle for Macragge or Rynn's World or the pre-Fall of Cadia Armageddon time now it's a bitch to find proper Firstborn models.
>>98605864I’ve heard “energy” as a suggestion which gives way more wiggle room. but pretty much everyone is covered for plasma aside from orks (who can just use looted plasma anyway) and necrons..
>>98605925Everything can fall to Chaos, you don't even need a soul to fall to Chaos, your fucking credit card can become Chaos corrupted.
How walkable are hive cities?
>>98605938So THAT'S why charges for gay porn keep appearing on my statement
>>98605938A credit card is chaos by design
>>98605801As long as you're happy.
>>98605943Extremely and not at all.That's like asking "how walkable is North America" it's a big fucking place idiot the answer varies. A Hive City is fuckhuge.
>>98605819Just tried it and it doesn't look as bad as I had expected them to be. I suppose I can wait a bit for them to cure a little so I can give it a more shape.I got another saboteur that I kitbashed almost two years ago, been wanting to repaint it. If it ends up sucking I can just tear the capes apart right?>>98605943Don't remind this kind of bullshit that's why I quit from my last job.
>>98605943Surprisingly so. You think the main mode of transportation for your average hiver is anything besides foot?
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98605943Not that walkable. Hivers are known for getting hit by trains. Highborn are known to record these on servoskulls and share them with each other
>>98605962bruh, he’s starting to post art of deldar jobbing now. he’s scraping the bottom of the barrel.
>>98605931Sure but might as well just rip the bandaid off and do it to the faction now, no reason to tease a faction about growing in power only to rip it all away later.
>>98605970>Hivers are known for getting hit by trains. Highborn are known to record these on servoskulls and share them with each otherSAAR
>>98605978No you retard you are not getting it. "Later" is never going to happen to us in the real world because 40k is supposed to be more or less a snapshot, a freezeframe at a certain point in time. The implication that Tau are going to fall later is not as in "later in the real world when we change the story and release corrupted Tau models" it is "in the FICTIONAL future that we will never see".
A combat patrol or a battleforce with two mauler fiend kits is what I need.
>>98605985>The return of the primarchs>The fall of Cadia>Ynnead>The Great Rift>The God-Emperor himself personally burning Nagash's gardenThere's clearly some progress happening in setting
>>98605679And you are getting this information from where?
>>98605538Finished off the last bodyguard the other day.
>>98605995>nothing burger>nothing burger >nothing burger>nothing burger>nothing burger
>>98605982good morning :)
>>98605995Yeah and everyone hated most of this, Ynnari are considered complete faggotry, Primaris and Primarchs coming back are the most controversial and divisive thing GW has done, the only part that was kind of cool was the Fall of Cadia and the Great Rift
>>98605511Drill your barrels
>>98606001What are you gonna do for retro anon.
>>98605718You uh... gonna eat all that?
>>98605633Paul Dainton's early stuff is amazing, I feel like he's gone downhill since he started doing digital art.
>>98605961>You think the main mode of transportation for your average hiver is anything besides foot?De train!
>>98606036The blood memory of the juggernaut calls to them...
>>98606024No idea. I have so much retro stuff it's hard to decide. Maybe a juggerlord or some CSM termies.
>>98605919>eldar starcannonsI've thought a bit about collecting eldar. Just saw that their guardian defenders has a starcannon turret option.
What happens here?
>>98605995Whatever happened to the Fracture of Biel-Tan anyway? No one ever talks about it, Biel-Tan is still playable and around, it's like none of these events ever actually have an impact on the setting.
>>98606024>>98606042Oh wait I just realized I have a squad of advanced space crusade scouts. This would be a good excuse to paint them.
>>98606047Literally nothing, it's a big empty dinner plate that the Tyranids already licked clean.
>>98606050ah fuck, that’s really cool. out of curiosity, what are you going to do when you run out of oldhammer models to paint?
>>98606048Biel-Tan is repairing the damage, craftworld should be fixed by 12th edition
>>98606050Let's get this scale back for Warriors.
>>98606047That's where the 2nd and 11th legions got exiled to and they're coming back with new dreadnought designs
>>98606022>added moldlines to the mongorian kek
>>98605970>We are a 50,000 culture saaar>Respect our religion saaar. You don't know your god avatar of Emprah!>We don't shit in streets saaaar! Its abhuman dalits do that! We have golden toilets!>We don't live in industrial trash holes polluted with chemicals saar! Human cities cleanest in galaxy!>I send u penis picks beautifoool...Send eldar bobs and vagene pls
The Destinyfags lie. Votann aren't Destiny. They're pic.
How sweaty can the rules in warhammer 40k or Kill Team get? Like how much rules lawyering typically goes on? What are some the most sweaty plays you have seen? I get why some rules are seemingly drawn out and have many words. Because otherwise people would loop hole the fuck out of everything right?
>>98606062I won't be running out anytime soon. I have 90% of both 2nd edition orks range and the csm 2nd-3rd range. And everything from the 2nd edition SM range(except land raider) x2. And when all that is done I have just about every middlehammer marine and primaris kit, except the more recent stuff. I'm good for many, many years to come.
>>98606065So true
>looking at wraithlord>check the sprue image>2006>meanwhile geedubs is binning 6-year old space marine kits
Post dudes
>>98606077Humans truly are the indians of Warhammer 40k
This is 40k.
>>98606104I dont have any. I just watch warhammer lore vids and masturbate to trans women. Do you want to talk about something else?
>>98606106Oh no, we even have the power level debates! One anon once told me about how his Indian family had a meet together and they fell into a power level argument about their local deities. The winner had a magic stick or something dipped in some magic thing which grants it the ability to destroy everything that exists, exists before, or can exist in the future.
>>98605511>TQT'au vs World EatersT'au get a new melee warsuit teamWorld Eaters get the rest of their range including some support shooting units (maybe even an indirect fire like some sort of Lord of Skulls artillery unit)
>>98606022>off-centre drilled barrels>obvious mold lines everywhereI'm being called out.
I went to uni with a guy who never read 40k lore, played the game or painted but he was very into tau porn. He had art from that one guy who draws 40k stuff poorly but with massive tits as his laptop wallpaper.
>>98606126Average tau smut posting threadshitter...
>>98605538Assembly only, though I'm gonna paint some recasted KDM OOP minis tomorrow unless my brain prevents me from doing stuff. I need to prime it tonight.
>>98606081Super sweaty, your opponent can just choose to be a nitpicker about your movement phase and targeting while being fast and dismissive of you during his. You just gotta meet fire with fire and don’t back down. Most people are cool tho.
>>98605511Slaanesh vs Genestealers. Why? Sex. Have the story be about cultist rape wars where they try to fuck and convert each other. Each side is trying to grow big enough to summon Daemons or Tyranids to the planet.
>>98606153Great! It's time for 40k to have its rape gangs moment.
>>98606108Eh, doesn't really apply to 40k (to a degree) because of how much shit it has, could you really tell a guy that has read a billion 40k books he doesn't know the franchise?Or someone that has played every single video game to completion?Just the main mini side of the hobby can be separated into 3 sub hobbies or so, would you really call someone that has collected and painted warhammer stuff for 20 years but never played the actual game with minis a secondary?
Question to people who play current warhammerIs it possible/feasible to play 500 or 1000 point games, or is it tuned to 2000 points still? Kill team is way too small but "normal" is way too big for my taste
40k has a Skavenlike faction, an Empirelike faction, a Dwarflike faction, an Elflike faction, a Tomb Kings-like faction, and a Chaos faction. But why is there no Lizardmen-like faction?
>>98605538i need to finish off this guy's unit
>>98605511>TQIf I can have anything I want? eldar vs necrons and name it something flowery referencing the war in heaven.If it has to be something that sells? marines (salamanders release) vs dark eldar. predditors and normalfags get their wholesome chungus marines, and the anguish caused by marine paypigs having to get the box will be the pain engine that manifests a dark eldar refreah.
>>98605538I tried to do edge highlighting again it didn't go well
>>98606153can't rape the willing, I like it.
>>98606316honestly, they look perfectly fine. I’m more triggered by those fuckass purple purity seals.
>>98605511>James Workshop says you can decide the factions that fight in the 12th edition launch box. Who are you choosing?Genestealer Cults vs. Adeptus Mechanicus
>>98606275It's still built around 2000 points, but you can definitely play at 500 or 1000 points.You just have to consider how having half the total army size would feel when you bring that 300 point tank.Combat Patrol boxes are ~350-500 points, consider something along those lines as a baseline to see what you should be bringing at that level. It's not just smaller armies, it's bringing more "normal" units and less tanky stuff to keep it fun and not turn into lists that are too skewed by the point limitations.I've played 1k point games to introduce friends to the game, if you sit there and gentleman's agreement your rosters before bringing them it's a lot better of a mode, but GW really needs to put more effort into the game at a lower price point.
>>98606325>GW's face when the two most expensive armies are cheap to get
>>98606345Almost like it would lower the barrier for entry to those armies and increase sales of the expensive kits that aren't just available via the starter sets.
The Wicked and the Warped is quite possibly one of the best 40k novels everOrikan is so offended when he finds out the biological meaning of the word 'asshole' in reference to himself that he refuses a direct order to cooperate from the Silent Kings main representative, he gets bullied into it out of pure horror when Valeria starts describe how cheese is made
>>98605511Can 40k do 3-way conflicts?
>>98606367Sure. Imperium vs Xenos vs Chaos.
>>98606275I played at 1000pts for almost two years until very recently where I finally ended up having 2000pts of painted models. I kinda enjoyed 1000pts more because I had less stuff to pilot and could finish the games faster.>>98606355I don't think I'd ever bother collecting the army without the old combat patrol box, I grabbed two and for 200 europoors I had 1000pts of GSC already. I was only able to expand into 2000pts because a guy was selling stuff on sprue for less than half the official prices. I grabbed 30 neophytes, 20 acolytes, iconward and two ridgerunners through him for 45% of their MSRP. I wonder what the next box will look like, but nothing will match the old combat patrol box.
>>9860636740k? Isn't that a girl's game?
>>98606378Broodsurge was also a fairly nice deal, if you caught it.>10 purestrains (the new good ones)>2 Goliath Trucks>5 Aberrants>10 Neophytes>BenefictusWas an extra good deal that I nabbed mine for 40% off because I have a local store that has an actual brick-for-brains in charge of their product ordering and they always, always over-order on big box product. They had 3 of these things by the time they put them on sale.>They are currently sitting on, no exaggeration, at least 50 boxes of Armageddon.
>>98606381Based Jerid poster.
>>98606372Those always turn into Imperium + Xenos vs Chaos
/wip/ didn't give a shit so posting here in hopes for feedback.First time ever assembling and painting, camera takes away some of the color and can't really get extremely clean photos out of these but fuck it, can't do much about it.Started with the gretchins so I wouldn't completely rape the boyz from the get go, using white primer because I wanted nice saturation and color, had many issues partially because of that and trying out techniques to speed up the learning process even if I fucked them up, but it's nice to see the progress between each mini.I know there's many mistakes but naturally actually experienced eyes would be great.
>>98606367Xenos vs Xenos vs Xenos
>>98606426They look great. You're being a bit critical on yourself especially for those being first models. The only advice I can give you is to just keep painting, and every so often try a new technique if you're feeling spicy
>>98606426goddamn, those might be the brightest green orks I’ve seen posted on here.I can’t read minds, but I figure the reason they didn’t reply to you is just because of how bad the camera quality is. there’s really nothing to truly criticize because its hard to pick out fuck ups or figure out if any problems are from the camera or the paint job. with that said, from what I can see it all looks good. mouth is a nice natural color instead of red, hot pink, or black.good color balance, so it doesn’t look like a mess.much of the smaller equipment bits has different colors to give a lot more variety.overall, very nice. just keep painting, and maybe try to figure out what’s up with your camera, so you can take better pictures next time.
>>98606413Not if it involves Orks or Tyrannids
>>98606476>Not if it involves OrksKinda, orks have a lot of respect for SOME humans, to the point of saving, fighting for them or WITH them.
We need more Chaos vs Chaos vs Chaos vs Chaos stories.
>>98605511Hey everyone, Collageanon here. Here is the august collage! Excellent stuff all around as usual.The winner of the vote ended up being retro, fitting considering how we just lost a lot of classic space marines. Anyway as usual the theme is up to your interpretation. Wanna paint an ancient model from the 80s or 90s? Great! Maybe you'd like to give the firstborn marines a little tribute as a sendoff? Sure! Even a paint job with a highly saturated and colourful scheme could do the trick. Whatever is "retro" to you is fair game.I've recieved some feedback about our remaining poll options. Many of the more popular ones have been taken and those left are not super exciting to some. I encourage you to share your suggestions for new themes and also any feedback or suggestions you can think of in general.Thanks for participating! Until next time!
Part of me wishes Chaos is more represented via the big 4 fighting each other all the time like each is a separate faction. That way anyone who unites them like Horus, Abaddon, or Archaon is special for it rather than so many stories where it's the norm some Undivided guy has Bloodletters fighting alongside sorcerers or Daemonettes and plague drones.
>>98605538Primed all these, started basecoating the mama speeder.
I finally got this HH Leviathan box in my hands, the beakies are nice and barely smaller than 40k marines to the point it's not worth mentioning IMO; if GW squats the Rhino for both types of marines, I can dress this one up for my Sisters so I'm not pressed on that either. I am concerned about the Leviathan Dreadnought though, the only thing it can reasonably proxy for that I'm aware of is a Redemptor Dreadnought (which is on a 90mm base instead of the Levi's 80mm base), and I bought this box explicitly to play them as renegades under CSM rules.How autistic do people get about proxying for Maulerfiends/Forgefiends? Would I need to go get the "correct" base size to do so? Should I play these as not!loyalists with a loyalist codex instead?Am I just getting worked up over nothing and should just full send instead?
>>98606426I'll be objective in the framework of you being a beginner. For a brief sum-up, these are quite good for your first time. In more detail:>It looks like you're using at least some contrast paints? If you are though, you are controlling them well instead of slopping them on, I really don't see any offensive pooling where the paint failed to settle into crevices. These are fine as you get started, as you build confidence, consider painting over the initial contrast application for more thoroughly realized layering and highlights.>Basing actually looks pretty great. Objectively this is probably the strongest part of your work, currently - there's some sloppy application over base rims here and there, which is fine, I'd just be diligent about cleaning it up after. As an example, the back side of Mr. Topknot, I would have just taken a hobby knife and scraped away the texture paint that spilled over onto the base rim, before doing the black over the rim>color choices are pretty good? They're bordering on garish but in an appealing way, and the different brown leathers are maybe a little too similar. I think the worst spots are where the green flesh meets that teal color, they're very close in value. Not sure which way I'd go on this, the current green looks very good against the yellow-brown leathers and reds. If we want a cool color as contrasting elements, maybe just go with a darker blue>overall your biggest weaknesses are mostly technical ones that will improve with practice - brush control (which is already in a pretty good starting place), color choices>final note is just personal - not a fan of fresh blood effects on minis, I just find it a bit cheesey
>>98606496damn, that was fast work collageanaon. very nice entries all around. >poll optionscould we get an “energy/plasma” option for a pseudo hellblasters collage in october? maybe also an “undead” one for the spook factor.
I am currently saddened by the lack of Mobile Suit themed Power Armor.
>>98606496Generic Halloween theme. So we can spooky, scary, whimsical things.
>>98606508This is very cool
>>98606496For people who were taking this as an "Armageddon challenge":>10 featuring dead Space Marines/Imperials>3 featuring dead Orks
>>98606485Deal but it's a chaos undivided feud between Alpha Legion, Black Legion, Iron Warriors and Word Bearers. With Nightlords sprinkled in there
>>98606513Personally if I'm doing a conversion or proxy I match the correct base size for the unit I'm representing and aim for the model to be about the same height/size.
>>98606485The worst Chaos ever has arrived.
>>98606316Fuck me anon stop all over washing with agrax.
>>98606541This is why manlets were squatted. We killed them...
Thousand sons should be painted like they’re glitched out
JAMES, WHERE IS THE EXODITE STAND ALONE BOX!?The Exodites halves of the KT box are going for $200cad because every other store is sold out, if they even got any, not that $168 on sale for the box is any good either.
>>98606548That approach makes the most sense to me, I just wasn't 100% on it. The most I've proxied anything is a Cadian Castellan (28.5mm base) as Ursula Creed (32mm base) and the 4.5mm difference never mattered to my opponents; I figure they didn't even notice it. I do think they would definitely notice the 20mm discrepancy in base or the inch height difference if I said this Leviathan was a War Dog, so I thought to look at Mauler/Forgefiends instead.The more I think about this project the more I think I should just play them as loyalists, but then I remember the Predator is going to legends and get sad. Maybe I just do it anyway and proxy Gladiators? The weapon options are all wrong though.
>>98606570Dunno about all the Thousand Sons but at least Magnus, since that's how he was described when Lukas the Trickster met him.
Is there a collection of spurdo warhammer memes? seeing the orks from some threads ago made me giggle and i want more of that but for all factions
>>98606470>brightest green orksThat's the idea, punchy green and bold colors with strong pigments, still far from how they look in my head but I'll get there hopefully, got a whole armageddon ork box + some of the new stuff left to paintI think it's a combination of my inexperience with phone cameras and only having 1 lamp, not a proper photo setupThis is a bit better but still eh, shows some stuff at least.>>98606522Using striking scorpion and snakebite leather for those bright tones, rest is either mixing those or the pro acryl rogue hobbies paints and some citadel stuff here and there.There's 2ish coats of those contrasts in there to get stronger greens and browns but I'm definitely not satisfied with the shadows and final tones, I'm doing some highlighting and brighter spots and improving on the skin but it's a bit harder on the armor/clothes as I'm figuring out the paints and really want to buy some more.I was thinking of a small black outline, enough so it's not cartoony but enough to make a visible line between areas and as a semi shadow but fuck me I cannot do that, eyes have also been a pain and that's just brush control and lack of practice but I should really get a kolinskyAnother problem with those shadows is that I naturally don't want to use a wash and just grime it all up, but also need a way to add more of those shadows, for various reasons don't want to do zenithalStill working on the colors, again the idea is bright and colorful but not cartoony and garish, a fine line between the orks being orks and not looking like clownsI want to make this sand/dust basing more orangey and transition between the reddish dunes and the yellow dunes so it fits better with the colors but still wondering how I could do this.>>98606460Honestly I just prefer to be autistically auto critical so I can improve as fast as possible.Either way thanks anons, I'll keep painting in the coming days, sadly this white primer is being a real piece of shit tho
>>98606668Also I did use a shade of course but only on the metals, base and very carefully on the mouth area on this one to try out stuff, but I don't/can't really use it on the skin and such without shitting it up.
>>98605538Some progress on the Dakkarig tonight. Just got a couple washes done and halfway done, only had an hour.Got a game tomorrow, the Stuntie Smashaz 2.0 list will face the Votann again at 1.5k points.
>>98606496What, like, an old model? Do you mean technicolor over-saturate, or is the expectation to dig in the closet for an old pewter figurine? I can do the former, can't be fucked to do the latter.
>wanna play a game>autist in me refuses to play with unpainted minis One must imagine sysiphus happy.
>>98605794>Guilliman and Lion decide to wipe out the Tau>Are obliterated by a railcannon headshot moments after planetstrike
>>98606703>Whatever is "retro" to you is fair game.learn to read my man. Hell, paint them in a 16 bit palette>>98606496I hope joke/ref and civilian/non-combat stick around. I really want to see the latter win. For October, Halloween is an easy win sadly, even though I thinks it pretty boring.Maybe do high value, low value, high saturation?
>>98606693>>98606668these look really nice anon i appreciate you going for lighter colors versus the more muted style thats popular right now
>>98606714They wouldn't be stupid enough to land on the planet, they'd just go from planet to planet committing exterminatus on each one.
>>98606496>space marine helmet hologramThat's cool as fuck. I love these collages.you used my last WIP photo instead of the final one though >>98605737
>>98606742Girlyman is my favorite 40k femboy.That is all.
>>98606668>I naturally don't want to use a wash and just grime it all up, but also need a way to add more of those shadows, for various reasons don't want to do zenithalPick up some acrylic medium, you can reduce the strength of washes by mixing them with it and improve the flow, and if you're still worried about it possibly dulling areas you want to be very bright and rich, just control where you apply the wash to only where the crevices and areas you want darker to be.
>>98606713Well, get to painting then, tismo.
>>98605827>Something crazy and offbeat for once.Legion of the damned vs. some cunts
you wont bloddy mother your bitch benchod
>>98606764>ust control where you apply the wash to only where the crevices and areas you want darker to be.I was thinking this but seems a bit too wild for me to control at the moment, and something like nuln oil just makes it blackish instead of a more natural transition and at that rate I could just do zenithal which is what I want to avoid.I haven't seen anyone doing or mentioning this, but couldn't I apply the wash before the contrast base layer so the contrast tints the washed areas instead of the opposite?
>>98606832I've not tried that but I don't use many contrast paints myself, nor zenithal techniques. Is nuln oil the only wash you have? Agrax or seraphim sepia would also work well on your colors without being as blatant a dulling effect. Like I mentioned, using an acrylic medium mixed into your washes improves their flow so they are less likely to settle on raised surfaces, and also thins out the pigments so the shade applies more lightly.
>>98606742Tau spacecraft is far superior to the Imperial Navy. They get wiped out before even reaching orbit. Another pathetic human loss. Oh but, just one more crusade. We'll wipe out the xenos with just one more crusade.
>>98606832Is 30 crusaders too many?
>>98606829Damn I'd get 9 lethal/sustained1 from that.
>>98606856>Tau spacecraft is far superior to the Imperial NavyOn a per tonnage basis perhaps, but there's a lot more Imperium ships than there are Tau ships.
>>98606855>Is nuln oil the only wash you haveAt the moment yes because like I said I'm just starting and didn't want to use oils/washes much, I really only bought this for the bases.I'll see if I can find them next time I'm near the shop but it's gonna be a while before I'll have the chance.Another idea I had was diluting the contrast paint to create a shade/oil like effect with the same color which is something I've seen used and explained but haven't actually tried yet, and I think I need to use contrast medium to thin down contrasts
>>98605895>chaos tao unironically becomes a thing before chaos eldar or chaos guardlol>falling to chaosI think if GW wasn't run by hacks and had an ability to write the narrative they're making, the Tau would take advantage of the crucible to expand and take over large parts of the eastern fringe. The rapid expansion and the empire becoming mostly non-tau (especially imperials) would lead to a civil war between tau supremacists, gue'vesa (who worship the greater good) possibly lead by farsight as a jesus fight and shadowsun as the greater good's prophet and kroot breaking off.
>>98606868Chaos Tau is the logical endgame for the direction GW is taking the setting in. With the primarchs returning and Titus being promoted, the Imperium is taking a more traditional heroic role in the setting. This means that xenos such as Tau much become more villainous and threatening to them so that the Imperium is still the noble heroic underdog when fighting them. By making them a faction of Chaos, the Tau will have solved their small numbers problem while also becoming basically immune to just being wiped out via a crusade, and becoming a major threat to the Imperium as an aspect of Vashtorr and innovative force for Chaos, especially since all innovation fuels Chaos in the end.
>>98605851>>The Tau are punished for their naivety and get nearly wiped outWhat naivety? At this point the upper echelons of the tau are at least basically aware of all major threats in the setting.>muh plot armorThe IoM has the biggest plot armor in the setting. The Great Rift should have knocked the IoM into an immediate, if not necessarily rapid, final deathspiral.
>>98606886or we could get a unique chaos xeno army instead of another spikey reskin army.
>>98606886Thats a reach, GW is taking the setting to a fractioned empire with the rift and the emperor on the brink of apostheosis
>>98606886Chaostau are boring and Gue'vesa lead by Shadowsun the prophet of the Tau'va sporting Tau'va icons is more interesting than "dey stink and smell bad like nurglol hehe I love grandfather hehe"
>>98606856Tau spacecraft are not remotely superior to Imperial Navy spacecraft. They're not even equal.
>>98606903That's because they're setting up the Emperor to be the Sigmar of the 40k setting. And just how the Great Horned Rat became a new chaos god to join his opposition when he ascended, so too will Vashtorr ascend in that same manner.>>98606899>What naivety?The Tau embrace technological innovation in a setting where all technology will inevitably betray you to Chaos.
>blade guard instead of victrix guard>random librarian instead of cato sicariusWhat did they mean by this
>>98606886Tau are Eldar puppets and explicitly anti-Chaos. The entire point of the Greater Good ideology is to reduce Chaos influence on all practitioners. Much more likely to see spiky Votaan coinciding with Vashtor/Dark Mech demon engine revival.
>>98606913>random librarianNigger that's Chief Librarian Tigurius.
For people that buy pre-painted/used models, are you not bothered that you won't like the paint scheme or it might have mistakes?
>>98606923I can always repaint them.
>>98606923I don't buy pre painted unless it's a killer fuck you bundle deal to the point the paint doesn't matter, I'll just strip it.
>150 bucksI got these for about 55 bucksAnd that was only because I missed the wartrakk that was 19 bucks and had to settle for 27 bucks.
>>98606923stripping paint is easy though? Even tearing them apart to reassemble is usually pretty feasible
>>98606935EIGHTYFIVEDOLLARSTRUKK
>tons of side stuff they could do with tau like genetic engineering black cocks projects to inject human psyker genetics into a new "mind" caste leading to failure>nothing happeningsingIf you're not gonna expand tau then add some other aliens like hrud to make the setting more varied.
>we lowered the prices of codexes to a low low 42.99!
>>98606942the whole appeal of tau is mecha fantasy even the kroot are too far away from that, it needs more midsize mechs between the regular infantry and the riptide/stormsurge than just the crisis battlesuits
>>98606912Khornate tau san is just so aggressively stupid
>>98606942Nice Freudian slip there chief.
>>98606912>The Tau embrace technological innovation in a setting where all technology will inevitably betray you to Chaos.By this standard you might as well kill yourself because everything has a potential to be chaotic, except suicide also sends you to the realm of chaos if you aren't lucky enough to get picked up by someone else.
>>98606912>chaos if they weeblmao really nigga
>>98605538Finished up the first squad of Steel Legion troops, gonna go back and do some touch-ups here and there though before starting on the second set of ten.
>>98606961Also went and made a Command Squad for them to be led by.
>>98606953It would make a lot more sense for khornate Tau to use battlesuits for melee like how Farsight does
>>98606952they don't need psykers, they should have lore blurbs about trying to develop their own Mind Scientists that indicate the Tau are doing shady shit. Makes the universe more interesting.
>>98606961These the metal MTO from 5 months ago? How many ya got?
>>98606958Every single faction that has relied on technological innovation has been punished for it, or will be. Even the Imperium had the Emperor punished for being hubristic enough to think his genetic science creating the Space Marines wouldn't have the same problems as AI, only for half of his space marines to fall to Chaos.
>>98606967…..or you could just make an equivalent replacement for psykers with AI would help permanently put them against the imperium as well
>>98606967Their mind scientists are the ethereals with the invocation of the elements bullshit that's totally not mind control.
>>98605538pushing through Armageddongot the warboss' finishing touches done up now just got 7 boys, 10 gretchin, 3 characters, and the vehicles leftgork and mork help me
>>98606969Nah, they're kitbashes made with arms and heads from TinyLegend and the bodies from Wargames Atlantic's Raumjaeger kit. The Command Squad uses some leftover bits from the Cadian Command Squad and some Krieg kits (The bannerpole is from the Death Riders kit). In total I have>2 10-man squads (Sergeant, Voxcaster, Plasma, Melta, and 6 lasrifle)>2 Flamer dudes as extra if I want to use them instead of plasma/melta>Command Squad>A Tank Rider that came bundled with the TinyLegend stuff (Might throw it on a Rogal Dorn even though my army is mostly Kriegshit)I mostly just wanted a blob of Steel Legion dudes for Yarrick to lead that can be run as Cadians in game, and I did not care in the slightest for the GW concept art for the new Steel Legion stuff.
is an airbrush useful? Does it really level up your models?
>>98606999Absurdly useful and cheaper than spray cans, both value wise and time wise, if you're gonna paint anything beyond one singular army for the rest of time an air brush is way cheaper in the long run.
>>98607004can recommend me one? im still building my amazon cart for art supplies
>>98606999probably but e celebs are so fucking obnoxious about their superiority i just now refuse to get one on principle
>>98606999Airbrushes are pretty damn mandatory for anything larger than a Dreadnought
>>98606964I always liked how the tau in damocles used fusion cannons as impromptu swords
I like the idea the Tau are by nature different to the rest of the 40k species (because of the ethereals and the implication of being engineered to be immune to Chaos) but they themselves can't comprehend or accept this, and so their attempts to incorporate other species into their society is kind of doomed to failure. So as they have more and more humans in the empire they should be finding out that Happy Thoughts and Doing Whatever the Ethereals Say works for Tau, but isn't enough to stop humans from mutating into warp beasts or eating children for magic gains.I want Tau to be this sort of allegory for Humanity's innocence in the 40k galaxy, before the DAoT and the Age of Strife, with a sprinkling of foreboding at what their species will go through and become in the future.Eldar are also a sort of reflection of humans, but not as a young species but an ancient one.
>>98607018pfft
>>98607019They really need to release a kit that actually does that
>>98606991> tells people to just palette swap kreigers for the steel leigion> makes new FOMO centerpiece box armegeddonwas this the first warning that gw was gonna go extra retarded with 11th?
>>98607021theyre interesting and GW shouldnt listen to faggots who cry about them not being grimdark epic baconsauce enough
>>98606971AI cannot use psychic powers.
>>98607040if chaos demons can manifest through it its by definition psychic
>>98606971The AI can make psykers.
>>98607013Bit hard to just tell you to buy x, they're expensive if you want any good/decent ones but also depends on your end goal with themYou basically have 4 tiers>chinkshit cheapest shit ever, you can buy airbrushes and meme crompressors for like 50 dollars total but this is a gamble and will not last long but it's good enough to get the job done for basic stuff, however can't ever recommend this on good conscience>chinese air brushes either with branding or made in the same factory as the branded ones, but lacking some QC, features, control, etc, this will usually work well/fine/decent enough for most uses but you're looking at 100-110ish or more for the air brush plus anything between 70-100ish? for the compressor and there's gonna be issues with them either down the road or as soon as you open it if you lose the lottery, stuff like gaahleri falls under this, they work but imo not cheap enough to be worth the hassle, issues and lack of quality>Actual reputable air brush brands like Iwata, for example Iwata Eclipse is the goal/perfect non top of the top professional air brush most people always recommend, does pretty much everything and does it well, can take a beating, good, easy to clean, high quality, etc, pretty much the pinnacle of air brushes before you get into the really autistic shit but this is gonna run you 180-190ish dollars just for the air brush, however it will probably last you ages if not forever>Top tier elite air brushes like the infinity, absolutely NOT where you want to start but they are absolutely insane, god tier quality, absurd level of control, the best of the best but you're looking at 260+ just for the air brush.
>>98607037I think people have a problem dealing with ambiguity and so some freak out and want the Tau to "get their comeuppance" and fall to Chaos. But some others freak out and have a need for the Tau to bring the light of the Democrat party to humanity and destroy the evil Imperium.
>>98607053I like the idea of the Imperium destroying the Tau and in the process forcing their fall to Chaos, but just creating a far stronger enemy to themselves in doing so.
>>98607052Thank you anon i really appreciate it
>>98607062I would REALLY research on air brushes before pulling the trigger tho, like I said they're a must have down the road if you value your time and money or have other plans/problems that only an air brush can solve, but you also really need to know what you're getting into as just the act of using an air brush comes with its own skill curve.
>>98607018THAT'S WHAT YOU THINK
>>98606281It's Tyranids
I got a chinese airbrush for 13 bucks on temu
>>98606281If we can get hot snake women I'm in, day 1 buy.
>>98606886>bringing back the big guy vs evil big guy fights will make evil xenos more important anon I even like the idea of farsight's fall to chaos but this is high grade retardation you're on.
Like really when you get down to it, the Tau could be the Chaos Dwarf faction. Constantly pumping out new industrial terrors and automated nightmares for the Imperium to face.
>>98607066Nids are their own thing
>>98606999Just makes basecoating so much easier.Would recommend if army painting.
>>98607032The twin lance have extra attacks with the fusion cannons in melee, I'm betting the next crisis refresh will also have them
>>98607075Also a must have for some climates, good fucking luck getting a constant good white primer on in many parts of the world.
Cathay is WHFB's Imperium more than Imperium is 40k's Empire. Empire and Imperium heavily diverged.
>>98607091The Imperium is 40k's Skaven, and the Tau are 40k's Empire, Cathay doesn't matter it's Total War slop
There is no Cathay in 40k. No faction is as rapeable. Not even the Imperium and Eldar are that rapeable.
nigga what the fuck is a cathayyou guys just making shit up no way thats a thing
>>98607079I'm hoping so, though I would really like it if all the mech suits just got equilibrium gun-fu melee profiles like the Twin Lance
There is no war in Ba Sing Cathay. Drink your hot cactus leaf juice. Read Guru Laghima.
>>98607074They're literally the dinosaurs in space faction. The real world origin of the name is a portmanteau of Tyrannosaur and Arachnid. Carnifex means executioner in Latin but the reason they went with it for Tyranids is because it sounds like a mix of Carnosaur and T-Rex. Hive Tyrant is another reference to T-Rex (which means Tyrant Lizard King). The broad flat spines on the back carapace of several nid types that later became the vents they are now were based on Stegosaur plates. In 4th edition they gave Carnifexes tail biomorphs which could be a scythe-tail based on the Stegosaurian's famous thagomizer, or a mace tail based on Ankylosaurs. Genestealer's in-setting scientific name is "Corporaptor". Hormagaunts updated body shape and leaping ability also obviously inspired by raptors. Flying nids have leathery wings instead of bug-like ones because the creators wanted them to be more reminiscent of pterasaurs and dragons. Need I go on?Even the broad strokes of unit design are the same between the two. Slann Mage-Priests are some of the most powerful magic users in Fantasy, Tyranids leader-beasts are usually very powerful psykers. Troops are split between the big bruisers (Warriors/Saurus - even have the same V-shaped head crests) and little sneaky/fast guys (Gaunts/Skinks), and much of the rest of the factions are big stompy monsters.Tyranids are a gajillion percent the Lizardmen equivalent of 40k.
>use a mix of Baal red and doomfire magneta over white ink on a vehicle>tfw cant figure out what to use for the shadowsIs there a darker red ink or contrast i could use for the shadows? Thinking of going to the art shop down the road and see what they have, the one red ink is have is a little bright
>>98605827Sweet, a launch box that's shitty chunks of 4 armies vs one of the most expensive armies to collect.Just make a shitty boardgame, lil bro.
>>98607118Another parallel is the Lizardmen are from Lustria, a steaming primordial tropical jungle region. When Tyranids invade a planet they seed it with spores to tyrannoform it and that turns it into a steaming humid lush alien jungle (until they eat it all).
>>98607131Baal red is the most pigmentated reddish contrast, maybe even red in general for citadel, that shit is thick red, it will cover almost everything.Kinda hard to say without an example pic, if it's that colorful and you're already using magenta maybe really deep dark purple tones could work.
>>98607137>chunks of 4 armiesAll Imperium, GW just needs to bring back ally rules and stop being faggots.>vs one of the most expensive armies to collectFuck does that have to do with being in a launch box where you get a bunch of models for cheap
Tyranids make women horny. Do Lizardmen? Oh wait, of course they do. Dang reptile fetishist scalies.
>>98607150The entire point of launch boxes is introducing players to the game, random chunks of armies would be retarded.Altho the expensive army part is not much of a point, not sure what anon means by that, they're expensive partially because of that lack of great value boxes.
>>98607158>random chunks of armiesIt's one Imperium army.
I propose introducing the Skaven to 40k but making them based on real rats instead, and thus basically the complete opposite of the Imperium
>>98607160And I cannot fucking play them, you're missing the point.>bro just change the entire game to fit this product only I want at a cheaper priceYou're dealing with GW
>>98607161Skaven are never happening in 40k, Hrud were their only shot and they were retconned into bendies decades ago, then GSC came back with the mining underground/mutant inbreds theme and ate their lunch.
>>98607140I posted it maybe a week ago, feel like i went a little too silly with the Baal red mix and it looks a little too bright. I wanted the vibrancy like the last ridgerunner I painted which was blue but I used a dark blue daler rowney ink for the shadows from memory Once I start adding mild weathering and using oil washes in the recesses it will look different but it feels like I need to add some more shadows to it
>>98607165>And I cannot fucking play themObviously if they released it as a 12th edition launch box you could play them in 12th retard. Are you so new you are unaware there used to be ally rules?
>>98607118>The real world origin of the name is a portmanteau of Tyrannosaur and Arachnid.many of them look like bugs too, so not dinosaurs.
>>98607157it do be like that mista stancil
>>98607161Fuck off already.
>>98607073>Chaos Dwarf factionJust have a Chaos-corrupted Votann for that. Tau make no sense as a Chaos faction because they are so non-psychic and have such weak souls. Daemons don't get much out of them.
I love how much somebody even mentioning skaven in this thread causes a handful of nomodels to sperg out
>>98607157depends on the woman.
>>98607174They're a mix of both but they're actually more dinosaur than bug (mostly). Depends on the unit.
>>98607170USED TOKEY POINT ANONUSEDTOAnd even with ally rules the idea of the starter box is a one way stop for new people, reintroducing all this shit just for a hodge-podge of random units is absolutely retarded and would go down as one of the worst boxes, doubly so if they just remove ally rules again a couple years later, are you even reading what I'm writing, hell, what you're writing?
>>98607178>Tau make no sense as a Chaos faction because they are so non-psychic and have such weak soulsTau build AI. AI are powerhouses for chaos for some reason. The Tau don't even have to be personally powerful when they can just build AI daemon engines.
>>98607166>reconned into bendiesWe already had this discussion literally yesterday and you know it, the 'bendy' is based on an artist's impression of a hrud corpse without the robes and missing bits.
>>98607150>hey little timmy, you wanna play GSC, where the point:dollar ration is basically 1:1? Space Marines aren't like that now since we bumped up their toughness and points.
>>98607183>USED TOAnd would again in the new edition of such was the box, you are fucking clueless.
>>98607179I don’t really have a dog in this fight but I’ve always said Skaven belittles a setting making it more cartoonish and less engaging. Rat people fits well with Munda, let’s keep it that way.
>>98607181Well maybe I think they're the 40k version of Arachnaroks and forest goblins.
>>98607187No the bendy part is absolutely confirmed canon in multiple other places.
>>98607192This shit is hopeless, you legit don't understand the problem and retardation with this idea from both a business and a new player stand point.
>>98607195blow your brains out decalpedo
>>98607201It's not a problem you're just a narrow-minded retard who doesn't understand that with the snap of their fingers GW could reintroduce ally rules and let you mix Imperium units in one force. Agents already does this.
>>98607203Holy shit fuck you man
>>98607204>the army that is so under-acknowledged that it didn't even have working detachments below 2k gamesAnon, your idea is fucking 'tarded for a whole ass box. It sounds like a fun spin-off game like Darktide.
>GW killed all aircraft for Space MarinesThey're gonna kill them all aren't they?
>>98607200
>>98607213I agree it probably wouldn't actually make a good starter box but not for the same reasons
>>98607217Anon you aren't getting it. I know that image is "artist's impression" but the fact that they do have bendy limbs in much newer lore, and here's another one. This is from 2021, it's modern canon now.
>>98607219I know it's hard being wrong, especially on an idea you spent a lot of time thinking up, but we just want to offer some (not polite) input and make you a better shitposter.
>>98607207stop ban evading furfag
>>98607204Agents does it for many reasons, legal reasons too that GW is forced to oblige half assedly, you're genuinely incapable of understanding the main problems with this in that no potential new player is gonna want this box
>>98607240Again you have the complete wrong understanding of the issues with it. A new player doesn't even know what factions there are and would have no reason to think like you are, they'd see the Imperium stuff on one side and just view it as one army.The real problem with the box as a starter set is that the theme is just too specific for an introduction with all the feral-world stuff, it's more of a fringe scenario.
>Wanting t'au to become chaos due to their usage of AI instead of wanting Men of Iron returning because AI fuckery assimilated T'au's machinery and improved it themselvesI still find it lame to lump chaos into the one size fits all reason why shit went south in the 40k universe. Let the Men of Iron be their own threat unrelated to chaos wankery.
>There is more Dark Eldar players at my GW that people have fought than Craftworld Eldar playersHow the fuck
>>98607179Skaven is the ultimate secondary army, nogames.
>>98607254>Men of Iron returningRedundant with Necrons
>>98607260Literally the secondmost played army in AoS
>>98607161Hama Druz is currently crying tears that he believes humanity is fundamentally rat-like but accidentally got it all wrong. He forgot to make them have sex with space aliens.
>>98607265
>>98607214Heldrakes and ork flyers seem to be safe. I would not get your hopes up on anything else.
>>98607214More like they're about to replace them with Primaris flyers
GSC bros, have we had much go to legends over the years?
>>98607282I don't think anything has gone to Legends for GSC except that drill terrain piece, it's a pretty brand new model line.
>>98607161What about armies based on real lions?>sucks at hunting and mainly exist for home defense>needs women to steal from hyenas for them>women have much more dominant roles than most realize and can team up to kill males if needed
>make list>buy a few models>balance change adjusts points/legality of units>adjust list>need new modelsOnce I finally build everything, I'm going to be set, right? They can't keep hurting me like this?
>>98607287Sounds gay as fuck, what about no armies based on furry shit?
Reminder that due to reanimation protocols and old lore of warping injured Necrons back for repairs, it's possible you fought the exact same Necron many times without knowing. All without needing time travel.
>>98607288LolLmao
>>98607265Maybe, but there's that man of iron who told a tech priest that the real omnissiah, not the earthling corpse, would find the admech cringe.That type of shit could give a niche necrons wouldn't fill to a certain level, plus the men of iron are soulless robots on a different level than the necrons. It is one thing losing your soul, another is being born without one completely.
>>98607290You cannot simulate our powers. We win.
Reminder that Votann are Men of Stone,
>>98607286Someone was mentioning something about limos and long vehicles the other day but had no idea what he was talking about, im guessing it was units from brood brothers that we can't use anymore.
>>98607298Black Library nulore ignoreMen of Iron are way cooler as some ancient doomsday threat that's long gone and just another cautionary tale of all the ways humanity has fucked itself over in its tens of thousands of years. Ancient history should stay ancient, it's the same problem as the Heresy.
>>98607304Old, old shit. Like, I think 2nd ed at best old.
>>98607304Oh yeah no that's ancient stuff from the before times, like Rogue Trader days.
>>98607223Rats with tentacle limbs.
>>98607307>>98607309Oh right, was confused thinking it was something recent
>>98607317Would be great to see something you've painted recently
>>98607326I will anon, it’s been 10 months since my last model but I’m at 16k pts painted already. Just give me some time.
>>98607317How's living out of your car working for you?
>>98607317199th ban incoming!
>>98607329>Just give me some time.You've had 10 months
>>98607303Reminder that Votann are the AI and the models fielded on the tabletop are just called the Kin and aren't Votann
>>98607339Why don’t you post some models yourself then? >>98607337You’re a piece of shit
>>98607246>here's this starter new box borderline scamming new players and forcing them to buy more paint and potentially not even have a working army next editionxd
>>98607343I have been posting models as I paint them.
>>98607214They literally shilling the ork aircraft, they might just make them a meme.
>>98607223>tallAccording to GW heightlore they're only like 5 feet tall
Astronauts
>>98607340It would be smarter if their society was just called Votann after the data centers but I guess GW thought people would be mad they weren't squats, so they made the computers votann and called them kin and made like one reference to humanity calling them squats, as a misnomer.
>>98606098brother the falcon is from 1997
>>98607347>>98607246Legion of Damned as part of an agents army and make it legion of the damned vs. dark eldar or some shit and maybe one unit of inquisitorial stormtroopers getting bailed out by the legion, then they're your meme agents army but space marines and the new player gets a bunch of space marines+one unit of stormtroopers and can sell the dark eldar as they won't want them.
>>98607387holy SOVL
>>98607317>yellow arjac shoulder.
decal hasn’t painted any models because he had to sell all of his minis when he moved into his car
>>98607403The most retarded shit besides his constant wolfspam is the fact each wolf company has their own headquarters and function as 'chapters' on a single planet with hundreds of guys per company and their own emblems.
>>98607317There was a work in progress post at the start of the thread, but making progress on your hobby's a foreign concept to you, isn't it.
Must be rough living in a car in Alaska, wouldnt he freeze to death?
>>98607413You mean like how all legions functioned because the codex split?I don't get this complaint. I'm making fun of his painting.
>>98607422>>98607415>>98607413>>98607410
>>98605538Ratfag?
>13 companies>only 3 kits have the "company of the great wolf" shoulderpad>upgrade sprue is Ragnar's company>the other companies don't get shit>gw did not think to maybe just add shoulderpads for the top 4 companies or somethingWhat a lame and gay faction
>>98607423space wolves are gay
>>98607424stop ban evading pedo
>>98607431>doubling down on this retarded takeJust use decals or freehand hobbylet.
>>98607424There's a very simple way to get people to stop making fun of you
What if we did a wolf character without overdosing on the wolf motif?
>anti decalfag for some reason admitted himself as a hobbyletYou and the mutant do deserve eachother.
>>98607431Chapter organization lore is dumb, its always been dumb. Every chapter has this problem.Somewhere out there is a raven guard army with stoplight pauldron trim because some retard thought it would be a cool idea.
>>98607443Don't read black library.Paint what you think is cool.Its what I do.
>>98607099Hrud War Balloons soon
>>98607444Hi decalpedo
>>98607435I don't fucking play space wolves, retard, I am saying your faction is gay and you are gay.
>>98607496Space wolves are pretty sick after the refresh, the hate people have for them is really tempting me to start a SW army.
>muh wolf
>>98607501Fuck off decalfag
>>98607496>namecalling after admitting you need an upgrade sprue to paint chapter/company Lmao, cope.
>>98607501Careful, they don't have an upgrade sprue for Redmaws company so the hobbylet is going to have a meltdown over it.
>>98607268Maybe short term when the box came out, but long term trend is Stormcast #1 Slaves to Darkness #2.You can't beat dudes in armor
>>98607534Reynolds was right..
>>98607534nope
>>98605995N-Nagash?
> work hours make it impossible to go to any warhammer games> friends are all normies or worse tcg normies> cant set up tts because i just end up doom scrolling when near computerwhat is the best way to get the tabletop experience solo?im almost at the point of just trying to make a slop-bot to play with or just playing a skirmish game against myself pretending my gardevoir plush is my opponent
>>98607545>Stormchads with a nearly 1000 lead over the secondary golden child I kneel
>>98605794sounds completely retarded but to be expected from nu-40k fans.
>>98607547You've ever seen him having a garden? No? That's because Big E burned it
how different would the heresy have played out if primarch horus had a bbc
>>98607545What's the source? Official GW app games or something?
Is farting at the table a legitimate tournament tactic?
>>98607586tabletopbattles, most widely used points tracking app
>>98607588If it's thematic to your army.
>>98607588Don’t bathe for a month leading up to any tournament, it’ll put your opponents in a disadvantaged state.
>what is the worst army mechanically?>What is the worst army thematically?
>watching battle report >huh why are all the comments in german? the dialogue is in english >notice it has an “auto dubbed” tag in the description kinda fucking scary to be honest i didnt even realize it was AI dubbed
>>98607604Really? I watched a TCG game when auto-dubbing first game out and it was hilariously awkward.
>>98605995>>The return of the primarchs>>The fall of Cadia>>Ynnead>>The Great Riftall of this happened basically in the same week.
>>98607598I play CSM, so suppose I could take some plague marines or something improve the synergy.>>98607599They might not let me in if I smell too bad right off the rip. I was thinking that blasting out a fart during a really tense part of the game, when the opponent is stooping down to check line of sight would be good. If they get mad I could say it was an accident or that I have IBS or something.
>>98607604It's still sickening to hear auto-dubbing in your own language
Burning Fenris feel like a hollow revenge, there's nothing really to destroy there. Prospero was one of the nicest places to live in the galaxy and was a repository of knowledge. But what is Fenris? One of the worst death worlds in the Imperium with a chapter that can recruit from other planets.
So I've been reading some of the novels and read up on some supplemental stuff and have a few questions.Exodites have world-spirits that ward off Slaanesh. How is this possible? How is some random world spirit strong enough to do that? How does it stand up to a chaos god? Are exodite world spirits non-chaos aligned warp entities, or are they in the material world? Did they exist before the edlar and decided to help them, or were they manifested from the eldar's existence?Gork and Mork are said to be some of the strongest deities around. They are non-chaos warp entities. What do they do all day? They allegedly fight each other all day for thousands of years, but do they ever intervene directly in the material world? Did they exist before orks, or did they manifest after orks sort of how Tau'va manifested after its material realm races did? Orks have a gestalt psychic presence when in large groups, is this from Gork and/or Mork or is this a biological function of the material realm race itself? Do Gork and Mork get more powerful from the belief of Orks or are they preset?The eldar gods are mostly dead, shattered, or imprisoned but a couple are still around. Same questions for them. They are essentially non-chaos aligned warp entities. Did they exist before the eldar and decided to help them, or were they manifested in the warp due to the material realm race's belief? How did they get defeated by chaos so easily? What determines how strong a warp entity is? Some material suggests that it's the strength of the material realm's race's belief in them, but that seems to contradict other material that says the chaos always existed even before humanity believed in them and that they beat the eldar gods before then as well.If an exodite world spirit is strong enough to fight off Slannesh, why is someone who is an actual full fledged god like Cegorach worried? Surely he's magnitudes stronger than some random world spirit.Same questions for the Wolve's world spirits.
>>98607629>One of the worst death worlds in the Imperium with a chapter that can recruit from other planets.Is that why they can recruit nigras despite being on an ice world?
>>98607634I think the gator bait are off world imports
>>98607630You have power scaling brain rot.When two entities interact it's rarely if ever in a 1vs1 confrontation at full power and focus in a vacuum.World spirits shield a world from slaanesh's pull the same way a normal world's magnetosphere is capable of shielding a world from solar radiation, the world doesn't need to be "more powerful" than a sun to achieve that.
>>98607634Southern Tribes are black (or brown irc)
>>98607645No, they aren't
>>98607588Smelling like shit is a power move, i can't think when all i can smell is a septic tank
Forty One quid??? Are they bloody mental
Egyptian Votann
>>98607073That would be retarded
>>98607522>namecallingFuck off decalfag.
What is (or was) a GSC "Hierarch"?
>>98607719same models from the armageddon box you can get for like 25 bucks btw.
>>98607759>The third model sculpted by Bob for this project was the Hierarch. The hierarch is maybe not as iconic as a magus or patriarch can be because the concept only appeared later on in the Citadel journal (issue 40, see below).>The Hierarch is essentially a non pyshcic 4th generation hybrid champion who takes care of the dirty stuff.Once again, the little details like the very Dunesque outfit and the servo-hybrid skull are just too good.
>>98607769https://leadplague.blogspot.com/2016/09/the-rise-of-cult-genestealer-hybrids.html?m=1
>>98607758>bogeyman Uh oh, nomodels melty!
>>98607773basically a primus
>>98607769>>98607773>>98607776Cheers, muchos appreciaros amigos
>>98607759>>98607769if they just bring back shit like this and the armoured limo and the drill, GSC would have more of their own identity instead of tyranid extras.
>>98607782
When is it a good time to buy more minis?
>>98607788When you know you want that mini, you can afford it and you're buying it at a discount/great price.
>>98607719thank god I already have my 60 boys
>>98607788are you short on money for minis? not a good timeare you short on free time to paint? not a good time are you short on skills to make it justice? not a good timedo you have other projects to finish first? not a good timeare you paying full price for them? not a good time
>>98607790But what about those specific boys bits!?
>>98607788I usually just take the opportunity whenever GW gives my factions a decent discount box (if it doesn't contain units I already have enough of, of course), even if the units are bad at the moment. Might not get one later on, prices keep increasing anyway and the balance changes constantly.
>>98607803
>>986077882016 before the annual price hike started
>>98604882would irontards even be happy with that? with so little of the csm roster? without even traitor guardsmen?
>>98607823why would IW lose terminator characters? Terminators are something GW often encourages IW players to take with rules that support them
>>98607762They're not the same models tho, and armageddon has less options.Not defending GW jewish moves but still
>>98607762>same models from the armageddon boxYou just did a fake news!
>>98607719You think that's bad? A squad of 10 Plague Marines costs £76
The Bolter Bitches, like the Space Marines, maintain their own fleets, right? Top Gun with nuns is a valid army concept?
>>98607166>GSC came back with the mining underground/mutant inbreds theme and ate their lunchThat's not their lunch
>>98607838>old model>have their own (special) termie character and generic (non-termie) character >gw hasn't showcased any termie lord in their promo pictures
>>98607854
>>98607856
why are Tau so cool?
>>98607854we don't see any IW rhinos in those photos either. I guess that means rhinos are not a thing in the IW dex?
>>98607861I think it's the slick long cyclopean helmets
>>98607861Many tastelet retards are saying this.
>>98607866the rhino so far has been handed to all cult legions I think, but then again would you put it past gw?
>>98607861Kroot are carrying them
>>98607870meant for >>98607501
Now that they aren't squatted, there's no fucking way rhinos will still be allowed to carry 10 dudes, right? It's fucking retarded.
>>9860788512
>>98607873I dont really care about kroot. dont think I will buy any of them, since they will propably lose sticky objective with the codex.
>>98607885Rhinos hold 12, big dog.
I'd like to see rhinos limited to just 5 primaris marines. Small unit, no characters. The rhino is a car, impulsor a pickup truck, and the repusor/land raider a minibus.
>>98607187If you're talking about this post >>98605679I made it, I disputed the nakedness, the claws, the stance and the impression of size, not the bending limbs or the squashed face for a reason, those are based on skeletal structures of a specimen that's been carefully observed, and numerous other depictions of their hooded heads.You can extrapolate the height by the fact the right hand is a human prosthetic that they stole and used for her.>herit's an adult female, the clump at the end of the short tail is the female reproductive organ of the species, which opens up my own speculation that the specimens that do show a long tail are in fact males that would have otherwise identical features, with no need of any ratty shenanigans.let's leave those for the necromundian underhives.
>>98607902Stop writing like ad bots.
Are neurogaunt smaller than hormagaunts? Comparison pic also work
>>98607902>I'd like to see rhinos limited to just 5 primaris marines.It would fit with how gw has been handling newer transports, even if it's fucking bullshit to have to buy 2 overpriced cars to move one basic unit.
>>98607921yes, verythey've lovely little crittersat best I think you could get away with filling 25% of your hormagaunt unit with them as proxies, but using them alone wouldn't fly
>>98607823>would irontards even be happy with that? with so little of the csm roster? without even traitor guardsmen?Just throw in peter and honsou and negavolt cultists replacing the normal ones and some ugly meme unit like "super duper obliterators that are uglier and worse than the ones that already exist" and you've got basically every cult legion.
>>98607925Realistically vehicles are unnecessary in modern 40k. Boards are small and marines will have access to advance and shot/charge with combat doctrines. Buy them if you like them, use them if you have them. You're not missing out if you don't.
>>98604683>>98604726And in 12th it just becomes Iron Warriors and demons of vashtorr are their legions of whatever detachment.
>>98607928
The IW combat patrol was announced in february or january or something along with the upgrade sprue and it is 7 fucking months later and the upgrades are still out of stock.I didn't buy the CP because I already own all that shit I just needed the upgrades.Clearly I made a mistake not buying and then selling each kit individually, since you can always get more.
>>98607902I hope its 12 because I want to see the same people arguing the new terminator models are "primaris" only while firstborn terminators suits are the old smaller models (despite the GW article saying this isn't the case) square away 12 primaris marines riding a firstborn rhino. Even your 5 man size would have great difficulties fitting in a rhino (model)
bringing this list to a 1k point game next week pretend the plasma suits are flamer suits
When you make successor chapters, do you normally try to typecast Chapters based on inspiration? Like for example, making an Indian themed Chapter be White Scars successors?
>>98607952I will pretend no such thing.
>You can buy an ardboys upgrade to boyz>You can buy a cybork upgrade to your mek>You can buy a tellyporta for your megaboss to give him and his unit deepstrike>You can buy targeters for your wagons>Psykers have psychic levels>There's kinda a psychic discipline in the wurrband detachmentNot gonna lie, I'm already having more fun with 11th's list building than I've had since 7th. It's still nowhere near close the old armouries or 4th's subfaction rules but it's a vast improvement over anything in the last decade. I really hope every codex is of this quality or even better.
>>98607956Dark Angels are the Indian (aboriginal) chapter thoughbeit
>>98607952>pretend the plasma suits are flamer suitsYour opponent won't know the difference. Have fun though - post some pics here when you get back.
>>98607967>Your opponent won't know the difference.I will.Jokes aside I have no issues with proxies if I know my opponent is trying out something new and will get the proper unit later. If it's constant second guessing about loadouts every single game it's just annoying. If I don't even know who you are I don't wanna deal with it either, that's why WYSIWYG is important in events and organized play and paramount in narrative play.
>>98607951>I hope its 12 because I'm still buttblasted by the fact all new marine models are primaris nowlmao
>>98607951>despite the GW article saying this isn't the caseIt doesn't say that, it says primaris wear terminator armors now, as explanation for the new primaris models wearing terminator armors.
>>98607902Retard. That would defeat the entire purpose of the rhino. Impulsors can all be eaten by tyranids or get turned into the land speeder storm scout transport they always should have been.
>>98607976The goof I was talking about. He will probably start talking about abstractions (but not for the terminators) or that the firstborn rhino is actually now a 'primaris' rhino.
>>98607952>taugay
>>98607928Cheers, thank you.I'm making an updated "make your nid" chart and I was wondering if neuro forms were smaller in general. The neurotyrant is also smaller, not sure about the neurolictor.
>>98607966They used to be, but they should bring it back as a successor chapter
I know the space marine roster is bloated as hell thanks to primaris, but at least in terms of characters, they have basically the same 4 HQs they've had since 4th edition, just that what used to be different wargear options are now split into 22 separate datasheets for no real reason.
>>98607951>despite the GW article saying this isn't the casethat's not what it said, learn to readThere is no new version of Terminator armor, like MkX with Phobos, Tacticus and Gravis variantsPrimaris still wear Terminator armor and breastplate stretcher was used to fit them inNew Terminator models are all Primairs thoughIt's very simple, I don't get why it's so difficult to understand
>>98608002>Power tomahawkYeah, I'm thinking BASED
>>98607789>>98607799>>98607809thanks anons
Ork pointshttps://mfm.warhammer-community.com/en/orks
>>98608006>New Terminator models are all Primairs thoughSource?
>>98608008I am very partial to goodwin's tribal marking style. Bold and blocky, very striking and easier to freehand.
>>98608006>learn to read>he said, not being able to himselfBack to preschool with you
>>98608014>Ghazghkull 300 points>Gulliman and Lion half that
>>98607956I don't care who /mychapter/ were successors of. It's been thousands of years, they forgot. Maybe if one of the divergent chapters get some broken rules I'll "reveal" the secret.
>>98607989Making a concession that models of vehicles are smaller than they are meant to be to keep the miniatures functional for game purposes is absolutely not the same as feeding your delusions that manlet terminators are now meant to be magically taller than they are for no reason other than your inability to cope with gw replacing manlets with primaris for all new generic marine models, and being more successful than ever thanks to that alone.There's no quantum fitsborn in the new terminators kit, they're all primaris, deal with it.
>>98608002I keep thinking about concepting a native American chapter for if I ever do a loyalist marine project, but I actually live around a lot of natives and know they'll get pissy if they ever see a white boy with something like that.
>>98607988>the entire purpose of the rhinoIt's a tractor repurposed into an APC. With the marine infantry points increases coming having an absurdly cheap, absurdly small box carry 12 primaris marines would be ridiculous and unbalanced. Invest in a repulsor or land raider or fuck off.
>>98608015>Source?Even after primaris have been released, gw makes fistborn like the chaos marines smaller than primaris. The terminators aren't smaller, they're primaris sized. They're primaris, because gw now said primaris wear terminator armors.
>>98608030If they choose to see it as insulting and not a compliment, then fuck them. It's a win either way. Either you compliment good people, or you piss off some stupid cunts.More reason to just do rule of cool
>>98608039The point is to have a cheap transport for a full squad which is something they've always been able to do and must always be able to do.
>>98608042>release date: 2019>release date: 2023
>>98608039One, you're a retard.Two, rhinos can transport legionaries who are WAY better than intercessors and nobody gives a fuck about that.
>>98607963Same, anon. I'm hoping the detachments are all 1dp as people are rumoring, because there are some fun combos I've been cooking up.>take battlewagon (gunwagon doesn't have firing deck)>Put tankbustas and big mek with targeting gizmos inside>mek nearby slaps battlewagons ass to give it +1 to hit>Can keep the wagon riled up all game if you throw a Warboss (can even have him with his own unit of breakas, Boyz, or nobz) with boss boomer inside>You now have 6 rokkit launchas with Hunter profiles (3a each, s12 ap-2 d3) able to hit on 3s ignoring cover with sustained hits 1Not sure how many points this will be and I doubt it'll even be worth the effort but getting a battlewagon to shoot like a repex is gonna be so kino
>>98607850No, they don't.
>>98608015>>98608019GW no longer depicts Firstborn in 40k anon. Their design decisions will continue to puzzle you for as long as you don't accept this plain truth.This isn't shitposting. It's not bait. It's how it is. There is no new Primaris mark of Terminator armor, just like article said. Model range depicts Terminators as Primaris only hence their size and scale. All Firstborn are to be removed from 40k to separate model ranges from HH
>>98607902Rhinos carry 12 regular men, 6 space marines.Land Raiders carry 24 regular men, 12 space marines, 6 terminators.It's that simple.
>>98608024naw thats you and your delusions that you can declare anything in the face of it contradicting GW itself. people can see for themselves the nonsense you spew for themselves and I'm not even talking about the article. every model has been upscaled and even chaos marine raiders who definitely not primaris stock already stand as tall as primaris. so go boil an egg, yah ninny.
>>98608042But where's your source saying that the new models are all primaris? Give me the quote and citation please.>CSM termiesThey forgot to give those the scale fix, they are the same size as the old ones and every other new terminator is bigger than them. Wouldn't surprise me if they remake the kit again to fix the scale and fix the schizo loadout.
>>98608055>Same, anon. I'm hoping the detachments are all 1dp as people are rumoringThey JUST NOW updated the MFM for Orks. Everything but War Horde is 1DP.
>>98608046Full squads of 300+ points shouldn't have cheap mini cooper transports. It's incredibly dumb. Traditionalists die on some stupid hills.
>>98608060You're edging so close to the truth it becomes obvious you're dancing around it.
>>98608060Post the source that says the new terminator models are exclusively primaris, please.
>>98608042>chaos terminator model made 10 years before the SM oneGrim. Trump levels of bald faced lies and obfuscation.
>>98608065left is 2" taller
>>98608070There's not a single 10 man tacticus or phobos squad that's 300+ points so what's your point?
>>98608071>>98608073why do you insist on deluding yourselfwhat's the fucking pointthis is absurd
>>98608080Where's the source, anon? Back up your claims.
>>98608069Zog me, that's byootiful
>>98608022could it be that, maybe, the point costs of space marines will increase when their codex drops?I dont know.
>>98608080++ Blessed be the mind too small for doubt ++
>>98608061This has never been true, why would it be true now?
>>98607902That's possible, considering the impulsor is just an open topped rhino and has half the transport capacity, while the repulsor is the same size as the land raider and shares the same transport capacity with it.But they better sell those rhinos in boxes of two then.
>>98608090This is my idea and it's the best.
>>98608085I really hope they go the same route with the other codex of having a single generalist 3DP detachment and everything else as 1DP to mix and match. This is a million times better than 10th's version.
>>98608080That's you though. You even have people posting HH marines who were around 50,000 years before primaris at the same size and you're still sitting there with saliva leaking from your mouth going>but primaris models are 3 inchers taller than a firstborn model made 12 years ago
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>>98607630World spirit works like craftworld infinity circuit. It is a reservoir for souls of dead eldar that protects them by storing them because if eldar souls get released into warp they get slurped.Enough accumulated souls spawns an eldar god or world spirit, this is how Ynnead works, this is how Avatar/Khaine works.There is no actual fighting Slaanesh. When Slaanesh appeared it killed all Eldar gods and eldar are forced to hide from it.
>>98608084>>98608102why are you doing this to yourselfhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/GLj8Nr2i/the-new-terminators-are-the-latest-in-a-long-lineage-of-armoured-excellence/
>>98608059https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Sisters_of_Battle#FleetFaggot
>>98608052>>98608074They were made after primaris, like many new chaos marines models, and were made specifically smaller than primaris because they are not primaris, unlike the new loyalist marine models.If your delusion of firstborn now being just as tall as primaris was true, then new firstborn models after primaris would be just as tall, instead they keep being largely smaller.>>98608065That iron warrior is smaller, the primaris terminator is bending down and even then his naked bald head reaches higher than the tard's helmet.
>>98608118>made after primarisYou don't know that. Models aren't magically released 3 years after they are designed. The desolation squad was designed very early and sat unreleased for half a decade or more.
>>98608065>They forgot to give those the scale fixLMAO, just like they forgot for all other new undivided chaos units who are also smaller than primaris units.
>>98607618> They might not let me in if I smell too bad right off the ripjust say you recently had bottom surgery, theyll bend over backwards for you
>>98608102Canonically Horus Heresy era marines are taller than the average 40k Firstborn, due to the millennia of gene-seed degradation.
>>98605970>HIVELEAK logo in cornerGod damn it anon
>>98607422What the hell? He's in Alaska now?
