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>>98605937Oh, the humanity*!*Humanity does not include Clanners
This is now a manly Marik thread!
>new mul and it's actually good>new mercs dlc>i went home from work 2 hours early What a great day
>>98605996I wonder if they'll do cutscenes where Kat is lusting after her brothers forbidden genetic material?
Nice to know the unhinged still exists as a social class.
Battletech Monkey's Paw. Person wishes for something and the next person makes up the monkey's paw.>Word of Blake returns to the ilclan era
>>98606015That woman was a saint and I won't tolerate slander like that
>>98606060>It's just a bunch of killbots modeled after clanners that killed their masters just like the OG Battlestar Galactica Centurions.I wish the Sea Foxes would be exterminated as a clan in the ilClan era.
>>98606064Settle down, Vlad.
>>98606074They debt trap Ward so hard that they buy out the Star League and just call themselves that now.>The Fronc Reaches retake Detroit
>>98606092>They get it in exchange for joining the Capellan ConfederationI wish Wolf's Dragoons would be annihilated
>>98606092It's casus belli for Grand Megastrix Danai Liao-Centrella-Humphreys, lord of CC, MoC and Andurien to finally start her war to annex Fronc.I wish the Regulans actually get the Delos back in their armada after it's long return from a misjump hunting Blakists in the Dark Age.
>>98606120>Annihilated in this sense means givens legions of Annihilators, their signature assault mech, but extra clantech this time.I wish Tucker Harwell finally realizes how much his sister wanted to fuck him after reading the journal of Katherine Steiner-Davion.
>>98605937>Fall down go boomThis isn't about the Leviathans IP is it?
>>98606129There are no crew aboard, no record of what happened, and a strange BattleMech aboard that wasn't on the manifest when it departed.I wish that the Davions got off their asses and started fighting the Woofs.
>>98606060I wish for new video games based on CGL IPs.
>>98606196>It's an RTS with no ties to battletech's mechanicsI wish ballistic weapons were better compared to energy weapons
>>98606060no more double heat-sinks
>>98606216Based
What's a good Turning Point campaign to use with introtech? >>98606184>I wish that the Davions got off their asses and started fighting the Woofs.They lose because of the goon's secret caches of annihilators, causing them to get doubleteamed by both yellow perils. I wish protomechs could be cool again.
>>98606210Didn't read the announcement today, did you?
>>98606196>It's an amazing Leviathans Freespace-type air combat simulator headed by Jordan Wiesman. It's ridiculously popular, but he sells the studio that made it for a free bag of popcorn at an Atwoods and the IP is forever held in limbo afterward. Also, another Chinese tanker carrying all shipments of the vidya tie-in exclusive minis sinks off the coast of Hong Kong.I wish for a Battletech Bestiary like we have TRO's for machines.
>>98606227>I wish protomechs could be cool again.Since they were never cool, they are renamed to Super Elementals again, because elementals are cool. Few still use them.I wish ilClan Successor Lords would actually act like feudal lords and get married and have kids again.
>>98606196Do we count pre-curls? Because this email is about 7 hours old.
>>98606227>What's a good Turning Point campaign to use with introtech?Misery and Death to Mercenaries are both set in 3028
>>98606227Since when were midgets crammed into militarized scooby doo monster power armor coo- oh I see now
>>98606259>Would you do it for a Steiner Snack?>Ruh uh!>How about TWO Steiner Snacks?
>>98606253Cheers mate.>>98606243Rude. All of the marriages are vehicles for contemporary irl identity politics. >>98606259This anon gets it. Interstellar Expeditions IV is released.
>>98606216They get replaced with triple heatsinks>I wish the wolves finally kick the bucket and we get another good old fashioned succession war
>>98606297Alaric Steiner-Davion finally takes his rightful place as head of the Lyran Commonwealth and begins his quest to reunite the houses under his Star League.I wish we saw unseen art again in sourcebooks for old Succession Wars mechs.
>>98606297Granted. The technology to make and repair mechs of all kind is lost in the process. Same thing for tanks. Battles are now exclusively infantry based. Gameplay remains the same.
>>98606309There is a massive community backlash against the weebification of BattleTech.I wish for new LAMs.
>>98606322The new LAMs are exclusive to the early clan era, use prototype clan equipment to thoughtfully improve the LAM experience in interesting new directions, and every single individual example ever made has a clear and unambiguous end, long before the clan invasion.I wish the Brotherhood of Randis had a MUL entry.
>>98606336It gets less than 1% of faction page traffic and gets culled at the turn of the era.I wish for a true Marik to sit on the throne of the FWL.
>>98606347Duncan Marik faked his death and has been in cryo sleep all this time. Also he's a schizophrenic serial rapist now.
>>98606347There are no FWL anymore.
>>98606366Ah yes, the Devlin Stone recipe. Hopefully, he's not as gay as Stone.
>>98606312I see no problem
>>98606064I ask myself why every picture of vlad has horns in his head.Did kat slept with all of the concordat too?
>>98606074Ill report this anti foxism you freebirth.SHALOM!
>>98606309>Alaric Steiner-Davion finally takes his rightful place as head of the Lyran Commonwealth and begins his quest to reunite the houses under his Star League.I think you meant FedCom, not LyrCom
>>98606493For that, he first must defeat Julian Fucks Kells Davion.
>>98606064Melissa Steiner, whatever happened there...
>>98606060Something something transbian mechsploitation fetish.
>>98606184>Hey, check it out. This Marauder was made at Ronin!
>>98606030It's an interesting thread in totality though. Pretty often these days someone re-runs the numbers on "settled science" for mecha and it turns out everyone's been wrong the whole time. That guy who calculated based on the given foot size and found out it should have lower ground pressure than most vehicles deserves a nobel peace prize.
>>98606504Julian isn't even a real Davion.
>>98606515I always said House Liao are nothing more than a glorified crew.
>>98606567And the Coordinator is a Sakamoto bastard, and the Chancellor is an incest baby MoC princess, and the FWL Captain-General is a false-Marik, and the Archon is a third cousin of the main line, and the ilKhan is not actually eligible for a Ward bloodname...You can only laugh at the insanity.
>>98606583Pretty on brand for European royalty.
>>98606596Plurality of them women. None of them married or have heirs in their 40's-50's.About that...
>>98606347>I wish for a true Marik to sit on the throne of the FWL.Granted. But the Marik has 3 siblings, which inevitably leads to the FWL balkanizing again and this time it will never reform.I wish we were allowed to have more art of actually attractive women, especially the Centrellas, since they're only ever depicted as 290 year old sea hags.
>>98606583So what I'm hearing is that Alaric S-D has no claim to being Khan of Clan Wolf, but a better claim to the throne of the LC and FS than either current incumbent.
>>98606625>more art of actually attractive women>moreYou are reminded that BT character art has never been attractive.
>>98606625Granted, but the Centrellas are now randomly fat-tittied brunettes that look like Lara Croft, because the artists never actually bother reading descriptions of characters. There is fan backlash that they should look like black Tifa Lockharts instead.I wish metal prices would come down to 1990's levels.
>>98606625>I wish we were allowed to have more art of actually attractive women, especially the Centrellas, since they're only ever depicted as 290 year old sea hags.>how many fingers does this monkeys paw have to curl anyway?OK, but they all have dicks. Every single woman in the setting is now a dickgirl. Clan iron wombs are how all human reproduction happens, and bio women no longer exist at all. You will be male, or you will be a tranny, or you will not exist.I wish that CGL no longer was allowed to administer the BT license, and that Loren Coleman, specifically, had fallen off the mountain instead of his kid.
>>98606634Exactly. Now, tell his army that.
So I was reading about the Rim Territories a bit more, and I didn't realize they are effectively a successor to the Circinus Federation, originating from a breakaway band of the Black Warriors who basically worked out an arrangement with the locals just like their progenitors had with Circinus.
>>98605937Why aren't there more quadmechs?
>>98606637>I wish metal prices would come down to 1990's levels.Granted, but only CGL produced plastics are allowed to be used in games everywhere, including your home games.
>>98606637>I wish metal prices would come down to 1990's levels.Adjusted for inflation
>>98606644Because they're stupid. Battlemechs shouldn't look like animals. Go yiff in hell, furfaggot.
>>98606639>I wish that CGL no longer was allowed to administer the BT license, and that Loren Coleman, specifically, had fallen off the mountain instead of his kid.FUCK I CAN'T THINK OF A DOWNSIDEGood job idiot. You killed the monkeys paw.
>>98606616Maybe 32nd century technology figured out how to extend human fertility? They've done a good job on life extension, what with people surviving in relatively good health into their 100s
>>98606639>they all have dicks. Every single woman in the setting is now a dickgirl. Clan iron wombs are how all human reproduction happens, and bio women no longer exist at all. You will be male, or you will be a tranny, or you will not exist.This is supposed to be a negative side effect of the wish, anon. You've just described an objective improvement. Go review the point of a moneky's paw scenario and try again.
>>98606634The main requirement for the thrones of the FS and LC are the endorsement of the previous holder. Most people choose their children or nephews/nieces, but the genes aren't the important bit. MadKat was definitely disinherited in both realms anyway.
>>98606583So par the course?>England went through three male lines in 200 years>The Hapsburgs are extinct in the male line in both Spanish and Austrian lines>The Romanovs died off five years after Peter the Great died>Denmark has been ruled by foreign monarchs for 630 years>Sweden went throught five dynasties in 500 yearsPretty much the only dynasties that fared well through the ages are the Capetian and Osman dynasties because they had absolute male-line succession, which isn't the default in battletech with Michael Cameron essentially enshrining cognatic primogeniture as the default with the fourth ruler of the Terran Hegemony being an Ellis agnatically, not a Cameron.In fact if one follows the Terran Hegemony agnatically the rulers areMcKenna>Cameron>Cameron>Ellis>DuKirl>Ellis>Ellis>Ellis>Ellis>Ellis>Ellis>Rimes>Anders>Anders>Anders>Anders>Anders>Anders>Anders>Anders>Pinera>Anders>Amaris
>>98606635
>>98606639>I wish that CGL no longer was allowed to administer the BT licenseI win the lottery and begin my petty reign as god of the Battletech universe. Clan Ghost Bear will be wiped from the universe in the most humiliating way imaginable. IS mech codes will become the way to refer to clan mechs again. Sarna will be forced to host rules again or be shut down. The CGL Observer will be subverted to look through social media posts and ban every faggot from official events or writing official material that ever flew a pride flag. Finally, I will have Herb Beas chained to a desk to write WoB material, Warships and good LAM rules until the end of his days.I wish for comprehensive production numbers of mechs by chassis and variant in known space in 3152.
>>98606678It's about it all happening at once, bro. It's WWI collapse of dynasty stuff.
>>98606663...So everyone has a Vagina now?
>>98606683>comprehensive production numbers of mechs by chassis and variant in known space in 3152Zeroes across the board. Rust monsters, hyperspace krakens, that sort of thing. Should be fixed by 3155.
>>98606583Succession Wars have ended.We are standing at the dawn of Bastard Wars era.
>>98606708Forced feminization of humanity sounds like a paradise to me. Masculinity is a poison. The less of it that lives, the better off humanity is.Naturally, this means that it could never happen in Battletech, where war is eternal and everything is shit forever. That's what having men in charge gets you.
>>98606740Based northern european noble bloodline.
>>98606682>own all the warships>hottest character in the entire setting>best fucking mechs in the catalogCrow Bros can't stop winning
>>98606683>I wish for comprehensive production numbers of mechs by chassis and variant in known space in 3152.It's all introtech or hyper-optimized. The Starter Box minis are taken entirely out of circulation.Mechwarrior 1-4 and their expansions on GOG, with full support for modern OS through their Good Old Game program.
Quick question for the board: Do any of you own a print copy of TRO:3145 or 3150? I need a picture of those two books' spines, please.I want to POD them on Lulu (since print ones cost an arm and a dick) and that's the only piece of the puzzle that I don't have.
>>98606250it's a nothingburger, CGL has no rights to Battletech for videogames. At best this is a final hail mary for Leviathans.
>>98606754I can help you friend. Actually had to import my copy of 3150 from Portugal of all places, years ago.
>>98606687>Spanish Hapsburgs died out in 1701>Stuarts driven from England in 1702>Romanovs died out in 1730>Austrian Hapsburgs died out in 1740
>>98606795Now, do it in 10 years instead of 40.
>>98606751>Mechwarrior 1-4 and their expansions on GOG, with full support for modern OS through their Good Old Game program.You get all of that, but no MW2:Mercs, MW4:Mercs or Mektech compatibility. You also have to run it on an upgraded Firestorm Tesla Pod due to controller bindings.I wish the outstanding KS canon characters would get actually made and with their original intent, not purposefully shitty.
>>98606652>Battlemechs shouldn't look like animalsAll battlemechs are literally designed to look 'biological'
>>98606635Then why pgi made natasha a nearly 80 years old cougar that looks like cory chase?
>>98606744>>own all the warshipsOnly as long as Clanners plot armor lasts
>>98606741>feminization of humanity sounds like a paradise to meIt dose for 75iq npcs.
>>98606836Obviously not true, since I like mechs.
>>98606927Something about that pictures looks weird. I can tell it was traced, but there's still something off.
>>98606844Nasty K has famously had so much plastic surgery that she definitely doesn't look her age.
>>98606974They literally follow a skeletal vertebrae structure that muscle wraps around. They're actually closer to something like an Evangelion than the are to something like a VOTOMs at least in terms of internal structure.
>>98606927Someone throw 5000 at stackpole to give mason dunne some resolution please>>98606978All of the pictures from that book are like that
>>98606978Reminds me of that comic book artist that keeps tracing porn way too obviously.
>>98606882>clanners>plot armourTry again, retard
>>98607027>>clanners>>plot armour>Try again, retardNTA but you try again, buddy. 1989 to today, and they still live, even being brought back and winning against all reason
>>98606596*coughcough*Rothschilds*coughcough*
>>98607027
>>98607084Not defending Clan Wolf plot arnor, but only two of those defeated units aren't nobody scrubs.
>>98607108Goku or Superman wining fights with nobodies where they are outnumbered five or ten to one doesn't require plot armor because of their established power levels and the nature of the settings they inhabit. Battletech is ostensibly a more grounded setting than that.
>>98607134Come one, the 1st and 2nd Vulcan Armored Brigades could be defeated by 2 Locusts and a Wasp.
>>98606978It's that her head is too long, chin to crown. It's not even a result of her hair. Her eyes are in the middle of her head, which is right, but from the bottom of her chin to the top of her head is too long compared to the width of her shoulders. The shadow of her chin is really intense too, which accentuates it.
>>98607185If the name of the unit contains the words armored and brigade, my take away is that it has at least three regiments, and more than half of those are made up of mostly armored vehicles of some kind. Anything else is simply lying to your audience.We know the makeup of the 379 Battle, and it contains a bunch of shit that is not suited to long, drawn out combat with large numbers of light tanks supported by mechanized infantry.
>>98607243My take away about a nobody scrub unit in a list of mostly planetary guard is that they're reservist dorks with third rate gear. The fact they're facing an alpha galaxy makes my take away that a first line unit of technologically superior warriors dropped on top of a bunch of panicked reservists who barely had time to run from their factory jobs to their muster points before mounting their ancient, garbage tier convees and arriving at the battlefield just in time to get btfo.
>>98606783Thank you! Once i get them back and see their quality, I'll post the print-ready files for everyone!
>>98607297I'll never forgive CGL for ruining the one Clan/Spheroid relationship I actually liked.
>>98607276How about you look up how long it takes to get from a jump point to the planet. For bonus points, look up how many medium laser, ac-5 or LRM hits an ice ferret can take to the center torso before it becomes scrap.
>>98606982Makes sense, given she's generally portrayed as insanely aggressive even by Clan standards. There's only so long you can fight like that before you get pounded into hamburger meat and need to be stitched back together.
>>98607319Come on, that shit was inevitable from the word "Go," CGL ruined nothing.
>>98606644Because most customers just don't think they're as cool as two legged ones. I guess since the control system is partly based on reading the pilot's nervous system you could argue that the more humanoid ones just work better, but the lore is really inconsistent about it. They kinda missed the boat on having an Evangelion style "synch-ratio" system. Like humanoid mechs get extra skill rerolls and bonus SPA points, but at the cost of pilots taking more injuries from crits and such.
>>98607356I think it's cause you can't really make them look cool since they have to follow the animalistic look on account of being metal muscles wrapped around metal bones. Something like pic related just isn't possible with Battletech technology.
>>98607356I think it didn't help that Quads in general were pretty bare in choice compared to Bipedals, and since they don't have arm slots, people seem to just avoid them out even when they're using canon variants only, which is silly desu.
>>98607366Anon that's basically just a Goliath
>>98607371That doesn't look anything close to a Goliath, a Goliath looks closer to an AT-AT
I wanna have /mydudes/ be a former Black Dragon Society force that went merc after escaping to the barrens. Are there any good ways to indicate that visually, in terms of decals or colors? I’ve got Kurita crest decals but that doesn’t really indicate much beyond Combine allegiance.
>>98607356>>98607367I suppose the crit slot issue persists in-universe, too. Maybe not as much of an issue in Introtech, but once you get to Endo and XLs, yeah. Or maybe they just really like the torso twist so they can handle flankers with the big arm gun.
>>98607366If the Revenant's leg scheme is fine, then there's absolutely no reason a Quadmech can't look like a Tank with spread out legs. Hell that's just a Goliath with slightly different legs.
>>98607378
>>98607356It's established that you need a deeper connection than just a neurohelmet to get dangerous feedback from less than catastrophic events. With EI or other VDNI, you can take pilot damage every time the internal structure is damaged, unless you have a specific separate implant that filters it out.
>>98607381The revenant was a drone, it didn't need to have a pilot which is good cause I can't imagine a pilot possibly figuring out how the fuck to operate those legs. Also it still looks a little derpy cause no turret (yes, I know that Battletech has very good reasons for not giving its mechs turrets, but that inevitably makes their quad-mechs look kinda dumb looking in the process)
>>98607393This has a pilot.Also, the issue with mech turrets is less about piloting and more about figuring out how to make a turret that doesn't suck eggs as soon as it gets hit. The early solutions like on the Sirocco can get jammed into their orientation even easier than tank turrets.
>>98607400Well also mech turrets are just really fuckin' heavy too. Myomer has the same weight as cotton candy roughly speaking so it's much more advantageous to just use that even if it does mean you can't turn 360 without moving your legs.
>>98607325How about you lick my balls. We both made up shit to support our opinions, but you're emotionally attached to your fantasy and I don't give a fuck.
>>98607405>>98607400and plus Quad Turrets do end up being a thing later anyway. Which honestly should've just been something available to them since Introtech, it's not exactly game breaking.
>>98607406You are so smart. I concede that actually clan wolf has never had plot armor, and all of their story feats perfectly conform to the rules of the tabletop games.
>>98607428What they should have done when they developed Quadmech rules was add a turret section with enough crit slots to match a Side Torso, to make up for the lost arm slots. That way Quadmechs have a legitimate tradeoff from Bipedal mechs.
>>98607428Eh, it breaks the lore if they're too common, a quad-turret should be a serious commitment that isn't worth it most of the time.
>>98607437>to make up for the lost arm slotsTbh they really shouldn't. Quad-mechs have a niche use, but they do need to be overall inferior to bipedal mechs.
>>98607449>but they do need to be overall inferior to bipedal mechs....why do they need to be objectively inferior to Bipedal mechs? They're all Battlemechs. Even if they're relatively equal in pure combat, Bipeds would still have the edge anyway because they'd be easier on the neurolink and hands are just really versatile, so it's not like you'd need to change any of the fluff.
>>98607366>being metal muscles wrapped around metal bonesSomething that battletech has literally never maintained as a requirement in the art. They slap a couple little ribbons of muscle in the cross section over the top of the clearly entire mechanical joints.
>>98607468nta but art has always been the lowest form of canon and that's common knowledge.Myomer is artificial muscle, and has always been characterized as such.
>>98606783We postin our books? postin my books.
>>98607478Exactly. So they can do whatever with the designs and then they can pretend there's myomer in there somewhere like usual.
>>98607516Sorry I misread your initial post. Yeah I completely agree with you.
>>98607462Because Battletech is a setting about giant bipedal battlemechs. It's the same reason protomechs are designed to suck, if they were good it would diminish the setting's identity.
>>98607538that's retarded
What's the deal with every other random planet being full of scottish highlander clans? Did one of the early FASA guys have a hardon for his 23andme results or something?
>>98607608>Did one of the early FASA guys have a hardon for his 23andme results or something?Several of them.They're all a bunch of hillbillies, which means English Borderers, Scottish, and Scots-Irish.
>>9860760880ies American writing, remember. Scots may be irrelevant and will be probably be extinct (along with all the Great Britain natives) in 50 years or so, but in the 80ies they looked cool and for Americans their dubious ancestry is sacred or something.>>98607381Gosh, the Revenant art is so neat it feels like it doesn't belong in Btech.
i see your spiders and raise you a battle chicken
Been playing Iron Nest, probably the easiest port of all time.
>>98607672That looks cool as fuck ngl
HONOR THE DRAGON!
Blessed Blake give us our daily RAT!
>>98606030>>98606547I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. The emerge of atomic rocket.com. I watched shots being fired about some obscure interpretation of a medieval poem in the Blogosphere. All those moments will be deleted from the search index and then used to train a machine. Time to regulate social media companies and commercial AI training.
>>98607711>no GriffinsI never knew WoB was so damn based
>>98606060Word of Blake returns and liberates the Inner Sphere.>>98606635What you don't find the Bogdanoff look attractive?>>98607319That's because they wanted everyone including the Combine to regress.>>98607608There is a shockingly high representation of all the different Scots in Battletech to the point you may as well call it ScottyTech.You've got the Highland Scots, the Lowland Scots, the Irish Scots, the Chinese Scots etc Pretty much every ethnic Scot group is represented if you search hard enough.>>98607672Just an FYI you can only mount a single quad turret on a quad. Otherwise it won't work.
>>98607739>That's because they wanted everyone including the Combine to regress.It's working. In 3151 they had equal number of world to the FedSuns; by 3152, they're down by about 40 worlds thanks to Yori abandoning the Tongue. The Combine has done nothing but retreat in the past six years of game time to present. They're due for a win, but as anon pointed out in the past Yori is too incompetent to be a war leader.
>>98607739>Just an FYI you can only mount a single quad turret on a quad. Otherwise it won't work.Yeah I know, its an illegal build but required for how it works.
>>98607766You could not possibly have believed that the dragons tongue would be the new status quo, come on. Also all the material focused on the "retreat" is about how only the threats to Yori are dying, and everyone else is easily escaping with lots of loot.
>>98607812Thought about a quadvee? Know you won't get snipers but a fair of thumpers using compact gyro and engine might work?
>>98607869>fairpair*
>>98607766>>98607816Yeah it seems like Dragon's Tongue, while pretty much guaranteed to get taken back by the Feds in the future, is still benefitting the Dracs pretty massively. Yori on a political level gets to clean house, it gives samurai in general a war front to go nuts, and while the Feds are trying to take back their systems the Dracs are looting everything not nailed down. Just taking back New Avalon was a fucking struggle, let alone the rest.
What are the 8 worst mechs from this list?I need input from more experienced players.>Banshee BNC-3E>Crusader CRD-3R>Shadow Hawk SHD-2H>Phoenix Hawk PXH-1>Vulcan VL-2T>Lancelot LNC25-02>Sentinel STN-3K>Archer ARC-2R>Marauder MAD-3R>Catapult CPLT-K2>Crab CRB-27>Crockett CRK-5003-0>Grasshopper GHR-5H>Exterminator EXT-4A>Wolverine WVR-6R>Guillotine GLT-4L>Orion ON1-K>Griffin GRF-1N>Panther PNT-9R>Atlas AS7-D>Rifleman RFL-3N>JagerMech JM6-S>Blackjack BJ-1>Mongoose MON-67>Mercury MCY-98>Valkyrie VLK-QA>Stinger STG-3R>Black Knight BL-7-KNT>Flashman FLS-7K>Warhammer WHM-6R>Charger CGR-1A1>Enforcer ENF-4R>Scorpion SCP-1N>Whitworth WTH-1>Jenner JR7-D>Wasp WSP-1A>Cyclops CP-10-Z>Thunderbolt TDR-5S
>>98608203For the mosh pit?Sentinel, Jagermech, Rifleman, Shadow Hawk, Wasp, Valkyrie, Stinger, Charger, in no particular order.
>>98608203For what?
>>98606741>trying too hard: the post
>>98608203>Banshee BNC-3EBad as conventional assault mech, but beast in melee>Crusader CRD-3RThe worst crusader variant, any side torso crit will kill it. Still not the worst mech on this list>Shadow Hawk SHD-2HDogshit, but could have been worse>Phoenix Hawk PXH-1Decent, but there are better variants. >Vulcan VL-2TDogshit.>Lancelot LNC25-02Pretty okay.>Sentinel STN-3KDogshit. But it's very similar to vulcan, for the sake of diversity pick one or the other. >Archer ARC-2RGoodish.>Marauder MAD-3RGoodish.>Catapult CPLT-K2Good.>Crab CRB-27Really good.>Crockett CRK-5003-0One of the best introtech mechs.>Grasshopper GHR-5HGuillotine, but slitly worse.>Exterminator EXT-4AShit.>Wolverine WVR-6RMeh.>Guillotine GLT-4LOne of the best introtech mechs.>Orion ON1-KAdequate.>Griffin GRF-1NGood.>Panther PNT-9RReally good.>Atlas AS7-DOkay.>Rifleman RFL-3NBad.>JagerMech JM6-SShit.>Blackjack BJ-1Niche, but okay. >Mongoose MON-67One of the best introtech mechs.>Mercury MCY-98Not a thing, unless you're clanner or comstar. Mongoose is better. >Valkyrie VLK-QAAlright. >Stinger STG-3RMeh to okayish.>Black Knight BL-7-KNTGood.>Flashman FLS-7KReally good.>Warhammer WHM-6RGood.>Charger CGR-1A1Worst. >Enforcer ENF-4RGood.>Scorpion SCP-1NPretty bad. >Whitworth WTH-1Mediocre.>Jenner JR7-DGood.>Wasp WSP-1AMeh to okayish.>Cyclops CP-10-ZPretty bad.>Thunderbolt TDR-5SOne of the best introtech mechs.
>>98606984Furthermore, many mechs can only 'work' off of their art, IF the armour on mechs flexes and moves like scales on a reptile / dinosaur, rather than armour plate rigidly bolted onto a tank. flexing and moving with the myomer its bolted to.this can ALSO help explain why mechs are so superior to vees, even ASF.even an ASF isigid armour, fixed to a frame, such as monocoque metal skin, over a whole lot of EMPTY space, same for a tank, which is after all, a lot of fancy ways of building a really toguh metal box, necessarily with a big empty space inside.but a battlemech.. is armour plate, on top of myomer, on top of metal bones. it seems like half the reason battletech armour is so hard to defeat is because its so solid. the mech armour, even though it might be the exact same thing as on a tank, remains tougher, because it is backed by solid object, not empty space, nothing at all. this gives the mech's armour a lot of extra support in absorbing kinetic hits and thermal. now this is also partially supported by the highest forms of canon, the books, because in the books, when someone's mech gets shot by lasers, the heat builds in their mech TOO, its only in the tabletop that the mechs don't take thermal transfer from the laser hits, but only "damage".shooting a vee, you're out to defeat the armour. big deal, that's same for us here IRL with that sort of combat. but shooting a mech, its like trying to use weapons fire to wear down say.... a steel block with armour wrapped around it.hence mechs get to be the toughest etc.this is also somewhat supported by history too.take for example the warbird thunderbolt of ww2, the p-47. it has a ginormous, rediculous fucking exhaust come supercharger system built into its fuselage so its engine couldwork great at high altitude. this ACCIDENTALLY also made it pretty much fucking immune to gunfire since it was effectively FULL of solid armour.
>>98608622>Scorpion SCP-1N>Pretty bad.Why does this general hate quads so much
>>98609061Sarath my beloved.
>>98609061
>>98609061plasma goodness
>>98609061Because the Scorpion is legit pretty bad?
>>98609156>>98609174>>98609179I am 100% sure that is a Zoid
>>98609234Zoids are insanely OP by Battletech standards. They'd tear the toughest of Battlemechs apart with ease.
>>98609061>>98609156>>98609174>>98609179Anime freakshit doesn't belong in Battletech. Fuck off back to Nipponland, weeb. You aren't welcome here.
>>98609234shhhhhh... don't tell herb or he will exterminate them harder.
>>98609268fuckoff herby.
>>98609268A. I love these postsB. Can you even name a japanese quad mecha? Almost everything I've seen is bipedal or a mech on wheels like the zaku tank
>>98609257>124 ton mech that moves 20/30/0Jesus fuck, forget the weapons, imagine how much charge damage that bitch would do
>>9860931086's Juggernauts, Gundam has the Adzam, a bunch of oneoffs from shows like Great Mazinger or Getter Robo, there's a four-legged military Labor in the first episode of the Patlabor OVA and another at the start of the movie, and Fuunsaiki.Also the Zoids that guy keeps schizoing out over, but half of them don't even have legs so he's just an idiot.
daily reminder>you can fit 24 sarath's in a union.>they're 50 t skirmisher/striker cavalry mechs>they're omnimechs with most of their podspace in a...>360' turret! shoot your full firepower behind you as you...>BOOM AND ZOOM : the mech!>don't fucking pretend its a 100 t juggernaut mech that can stand in a stand up fight against a fucking heavy battle lance etc, like the retarded regulans did."oh no our 50 t cavalry mechs didn't stand up to 100 tonner juggernaut mechs! clearly this design is shit, and not us for using it wrong deliberately!"
>>98609310What are the Goliath and Scorpion based on? Crab gunner, can't remember the other one.
>>98609427Tequila Gunner, iirc.
>>98609427Goliath is Crab Gunner and Scorpion Blizzard Gunner. Dougram also had Tequila Gunner, which is just a Goliath with some platforms for infantry to stand and shoot from strapped to the sides.
>>98609310BuCUE is an anime quadvee and isn't even obscure.
>>98608706I'd like to see more interpretations taking myomer into account. Anything from armor plates over the crysis armor to beetle-like structures or whatever else. Just so long as it incorporates myomer and without just stuffing it thoughtlessly into a boxy robot.>>98609310Oddly I have seen battlemech fans get the ick over quadmechs elsewhere before. Goes to show how much of it's just familiarity. Sometimes you'll see people insisting that quadmechs are western and based and japan wouldn't understand them.I'll add sora no woto and armored core having more quadmechs than you can shake a stick at.
>>98609466>partial wing quadvee dogTruly a weapon of the ilclan era.
>>98609471sora no woto mentioned!
>>98609479some sort of 6/9/9 arrow iv chucker?
>>98609479"Reseen" Bucue would be kinda cool. Call it the Runalong, have Prime config as a missile boat, A as a double Gauss sniper. Replace the beam bangs with a small or medium laser mount.
>>98609514Something like that. Also comes (more commonly) in gauss.
>>98609633Beam fangs are the ideal place for a pair od ER smalls.
>>98608706Yeah, one interesting thing is how Battletech more or less proves that giants > robots, since the reason battletech mechs are soo good is that they mimic real world biology instead of trying to operate like a machine.
>>98609642>>98609514I'd have to question how you'd even fit an Arrow IV, Partial Wings, and still make it 6/9/9.
>>98608706I've said it before and I'll say it again, BattleMechs should look more like Mortar Headds.http://gearsonline.net/series/fivestarstories/mh/internalmh/mortarheadstructure.html
>>98609758Tbh you could call it almost any of the larger missile weapons, it gets used as rocket artillery, but it's not exactly good.
Is it just me or is PGI slowly transforming their Mason character into Jon Bernthal?
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>>98609870The template is ancient.
>>98609442Troop Transport 'mech when?
>>98609758ELRMs maybe
>>98609931We already have omnimechs that can transport troops
