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>>98610219
>TQ: What edh-legal reserved list cards do you use other than dual lands?

>>98610219
>TQ
I don't have any

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>TQ
I see the hobbit has made it go up a bit in price too.

>TQ
I’m neither an early enough adopter to have reserve list cards nor am I a proxy sped. I got in around Kamigawa Neon Dynasty and Brothers War.

>>98610254
You can buy RL at any time

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

Reposting my question from end of last thread: >>98610166

So one's more combat trick-type and the other is artifacts combo.

The Kenrith is a what, do whatever goodstuff pile?

>>98610262
I’m not going to buy anything from a retard boomer, I’m going to wait until they give up their desperate attempts at retaining their ancient cardboards value and let the reserve list finally die.

>>98610219
Gilded Drake
Wheel of Fortune
Singing Tree

Off the top of my head.

>>98610281
You could have bought them back then too. I did and I started around M10. There are tons of cheap ones too that are playable like >>98610233

>>98610278
Pretty much, I’d make the main set noctis as bringing shit out of your graveyard seems like fun.

>>98610298
Two votes for mainset, locking in

Time to find out how it feels to blast people with Aetherflux Reservoir, it's in my Will Scion deck but I havent been able to fire it off

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>>98610219
Multani + Zirilan are my RL homies

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>TQ
Chains
In Italian
Molto bene molto bene si si

>>98610262
>You can buy RL at any time

It is objectively retarded dumbfuckery to buy any Magic card more expensive than two dollars or so. If you didn't buy RL back when it was still in print, it's too late to buy it.
>b-b-but it'll go up!
IDGAF-SMD

Why would I pay money to resellers (scum of the earth) when I can pay an honest, hardworking chinaman who makes the cards himself the old-fashioned way?

>>98610454
>Blah blah blah im poor

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>>98610219
>TQ

>>98610491
$0.05 has been deposited into your hasbro account, thank you for your service!

>>98610502
You need if more than I do.

I think I figured it out, anti-proxyfags just want to feel special by having access to something you dont
>why didnt you buy dual lands for $30 two decades ago when I did?
>just buy them now, what are you poor?
>no I'm not a bitter bag-holder, trading cards are a legitimate financial investment!
I WILL get access to the cards I want and I WONT pay you for your hoarded copies and it WILL function exactly the same as your $2000 piece of cardboard and theres nothing you can do but seethe ;^)

>>98610509
I'm richer in spirit than a shill like you could ever be

>>98610524
P-Please unsleeve your card so I can green dot test it... Never mind refusing is perfectly reasonable even if it's real because the card is $1600...

>>98610532
no.
>triple sleeves in your path

>Validate me!

>>98610524
>Poor accusation gets made
>Have a melty about it immediately.
Insults can only bother someone when there is truth to it.

>partakes in a trading card game
>Has zero ability to trade
Heh

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>>98610524
I'm anti proxyfag because I want to minimize the number of people with access to these cards to reduce the amount I see them. Sure some retard with too much money or who got in early might show up, but they are by their very nature rarer occurance than retards who copy paste the most expensive EDHRec listing. Especially now that I've had my hands tied behind my back and can't run shit that punishes this lazy deckbuilding.

Why are people so up in arms over the duals? Just say an Uncle gave it as a gift or something, then you can play it off as a boomer getting scammed if someone IS nit picky enough to get assmad over your landbase

>>98610588
then we need to ban those cards. just imagine the screeching if wizards actually did

>>98610591
Because no one NEEDs true duals. There are so many good duals these days that the marginal increase you would get from a true dual isn't make or break.
The are the defacto check point for a retard without self-control.

>>98610588
How do you react when literal children play against you in public with black and white paper proxies? You can't say you complain because literally any LGS would kick you out over that.

>>98610596
I don't think we need to ban them. They aren't that strong. They're just an invasive plant and we decided to kill its natural predators.

>>98610568
And yet you engaged anyways. Curious.

>>98610601
If you're playing legacy you don't need them to function but there's a definite advantage to only losing 1 health a land drop instead of 3

I'll unsleeve my cards so you can greendot check them as soon as you swallow my cock.

>>98610611
Self-report

Because no one NEEDs duals. There are so many good basics these days that the marginal increase you would get from a dual isn't make or break.
The are the defacto check point for a retard without self-control.

>>98610615
Yes, informing the poor they need to be gatekept should be a priority.

You don't NEED that card. There are children starving in Africa!

>>98610603
>How do you react when literal children play against you in public with black and white paper proxies?
You pub stomp them and tell them if they work hard they can have a deck as good as yours one day

>>98610616
This isn't legacy.

How much suffering will i be in for if I build like a Zhulodok with 38 wastes and a dream? What artifacts tap for 2+++ colorless?

>>98610651
If you buy them for legacy why wouldn't you just put them in your commander decks when not using them though? That's the point

>>98610660
>If you buy them
People aren't buying them who post here.

I will never understand the autism surrounding true duels. if they were banned would people start saying
>no one needs city of brass
I can understand if true duals somehow broke the game in half, but they're literally just lands that can be fetched and enter untapped and yet people act like a true dual multiplies the power level of your deck six-fold when all it does is add consistency to your mana base. one less land that enters tapped, that's all they are.

>>98610670
It sounds like you're just walking back your argument. Clearly there are sections of magic players who play commander and need duals.

>>98610658
Worn Powerstone, Basalt Monolith, Thran Dynamo, Hedron Archive and Everflowing Chalice

>>98610673
>add consistency to your mana base
Creates more keepable starting hands. More hands where you're not fucked on lands mean more hands where you get to keep your busted wetdream curve-out.
I don't think we should ban them either I just think they shouldn't go without punishment.

>>98610673
funny how you downplay duals but at the same time if i tell you to make a 5c deck you shudder at the thought of not using them, that they are THAT integral

>>98610678
No where have I changed the position that they are not needed.
You did, and I told you this isn't legacy and that people here crying about needing duals aren't people who are buying them.
Nothing has changed.
You hit doing mental gymnastics.

it's just a retard who is salty he spent thousands of dollars on cardboard. No one in real life cares

>>98610748
>Nobody needs true duals
>Commander players who play legacy need them and have them
>Well nobody here is like that!
There you go

>everyone who argues against me is just ONE person

>>98610765
Correct. No one here plays legacy and none of their commander decks need true duals.
Any other confusion from your head trauma?

>EDH night
>Sit down with a random pod
>B2
>Pull out my trusty Akim, the Soaring Wind deck.
>Turn one, Wooded Foothills (proxy and bracketless, value: 2 cents)
>Player across from me begins gnashing his teeth
>Crack fetch, find Plateau (proxy and bracketless, value: 2 cents)
>Teeth gnasher tears his shirt open and begins screaming
>"This is B2 you motherfucker, bracket TWO, how fucking dare you pubstomp us like this. Fuck you
>He pulls out a gun (Glock 19, value: 500 USD) and points it at himself
>"I'll fucking show you, you won't beat me fuck"
>Shot rings out.
>The local Rogsi player shot (using a Taiwanese M1911 clone, value: 99 USD) him in the back, he winks at me, then sits back down and finishes casting Tainted Pact.
>Rest of the pod plays as normal.

>buyfags seething over secret lair drops again
YESSS FEED ME YOUR TEARS CONSOOMING FAGGOTS AHAHA

>>98610539
AIEEEEEEE

>>98610233
This card is incredible and I cannot recommend it enough.

>>98610233
How was this not labeled racist?

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>>98610793
Damn you're real salty about being wrong. Keep seething retard

>>98610856
it waa printed at a time when nobody listened to hysterical leftists and professional race-baiters

>>98610611
>I want to minimize the number of times I see them!
>B-b-but I don't want to stop seeing them, or anything!

>>98610601
>Because no one NEEDs true duals
What if I'm playing cEDH? Why wouldn't I, by necessity of the playstyle, try to maximize every possible advantage I can have?

>>98610871
You arent.
>>98610861
Concession accepted.

>>98610878
>You aren't?
Maybe I want to.

>>98610871
playing cedh is already an admission that you want to play with no self-control though

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>>98610588
You can punish it with that card just fine in bracket 4 anon

It's the same argument every time and it never makes sense.
>Dude the game is balanced around the cards being expensive
>Okay, how does that benefit the game at all?
>It just does! Ha ha poorfag!
Pick a lane. Either the cards should be banned or they should be accessible.

>>98610911
They already have 7 mana by the time I cast moon in that shit format

>>98610940
>Opponents have 7 mana on turn 1
Massive skill issue. But then again you play red so that already shows your IQ is 70 or lower.

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>>98610219
>TQ
Toot! Toot!

>>98610926
>games of chance should be accessible!!
incorrect, they have always been pay to win, you can't play poker if you're poor you can't roll gacha if you're poor and you can't steer the direction of wotc if you're poor

>>98610926
They should be accessible.
But they aren't, and no matter how much you want to cope about it they won't be.
If you can't afford them, then don't use them.
It's really that simple. Any argument beyond that is just entitled cope because you can't stomach the fact spike owns things you don't.
No one can stop you from proxying them, by deep down you know it's true.

>>98610951
>cant play poker if youre poor
I cant sit at a table with my friends and a $5 buy in? lol get fucked larping richnigger

>>98610969
funny how easily you can play low stakes poker but god forbid you play with draft chaff edh you validation seeking poorfag haha

>>98610951
>can't play poker if you're poor
...Yes you can. Poker's just a luck game that uses a 52 suited deck. The gambling aspect is completely optional.

>>98610978
>I'm rich I can afford all the cards
>but it's actually you seeking validation
lol get fucked retard

>>98610978
How do you not get bored losing the same arguments every thread?

>Play top
>Look at top three
>Draw a card, put top on top
>repeat the whole game.
am I missing something? this seems horribly inefficient, is there a reason people do this? I mean I guess you're paying two mana to look at a new card every single turn ( you could do that for one instead), but you're not actually generating any card advantage and just drawing one card putting the top back on top drawing the top again and doing the process all over again. wouldn't it be more efficient to simply look at the top three and rearrange them every turn instead of going to the whole song and dance of drawing a card putting the top back on top recasting top etc etc?

>>98610985
>playing poker without any money involved
holy mother of weenie hut jrs!

>>98610987
>i can only play tapland draft chaff, i can't even afford shocks much less abur duals
>stop laughing at me!!!
hahaha get wrecked poorfag
>>98610997
i accept your coping and seething

I still want the gay bolas fanfics back. That was actually fun to read.

>>98611022
Name ten books. You have 30 seconds.

>>98611010
top is a combo piece first and a draw smoother second

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proxy son or cedh daughter

>>98611012
>You can't (X) without (Y)!
>You can
>WEENIE!

>>98611070
yeah have fun raising with nothing retard

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>>98611035
>Choose to sac all my lands

Jannies don't want to clear shitposters and low-quality posts, so fuck it.

Does anyone in your playgroup let you use the MLP silver border cards? I've been thinking of making a Rainbow Dash deck but that seems a bit too sweaty.

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>>98610740
NTA but a part of me really wants to try to make pic related with just basics in my mana as a personal challenge

>>98611135
>making a Rainbow Dash deck but that seems a bit too sweaty.
>bit too sweaty
rainbow dash is just start your engines wtf are you talking about

>>98611035
MLD REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>98611135
>Requires 5 attackers for glorified Timeless Lotus
Nothingburger card.

>>98611150
it's not a challenge just run green or artifact ramp.

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>>98611153
It's better than Start Your Engines because it triggers for each creature on attack, so swinging it with a field of Skyknight Legionnaires or whatever can proc it early, and because of the mana abolity changes you can slap an Illusionist's Bracers on her and go infinite with Aggravated Assault, or just Najeela if you have enough bodies.

The five color being on an ability that gives mana seems like a copout that would make getting out four other haste/fliers easy enough.

>>98610951
Are you OK retard? Have you never played poker with pennies as a kid?

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>>98611199
it also resets so it's just a variant of start your engines
and cards comboing off with aggravated assault isn't that noteworthy, this landwhale is better while being in a better color combo and she's not broken at all

>>98611027
Jackie Chan

>>98611219
Are you OK retard? Have you never played edh with draft chaff? try it sometime you'll actually get to live your life genuinely and not live a lie!

>>98611226
You don't draw cards off of her, so she can't dig for the combo alone, she can't run all five colors to better fetch/protect the combo, and she costs and extra mana.
I do agree getting potentially six mana in a turn or more is a nice upside.

I've lost track of what this retards problem even is. Other than people don't want to spend money.

>>98611282
He's mad tournament poker moved away from cash years ago and is trying to reclaim that ability to "win" games by repeatedly buying back in.

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>>98611282
i don't want to pay for art for any reason either but i'm sure the usual suspects will come out of the woodwork in a jiffy

>>98611282
His real problem is that he doesn't take his medication before posting.

>playing in a pod with friends
>we swap decks for a bit to all play something different
>guy across from me plays Maha
>I play Burrowguard Mentor and have one other thing on the field
>im unsure if he enters as a 2/1 or a 2/2
>we ask a passing player
>eventually there are 8 people hovering around the table all debating what layer each is applied to
>we settle on it probably being a 2/1
I'm still not even sure that's correct but it was very funny having so many people trying to work it out

>>98610754
>what if it's a shit card that is expensive only because it hasn't been reprinted?
Always perfectly fine. I'm talking about stuffing tons of GCs/cEDH slop in your deck just just for the sake of pubstomping

>>98611400
My intuition tells me your mouse will always be an */1 with maha in play.

>>98611282
>Make proxies for pennies and no one freaks out
>Make proxies fro pennies with big titty women on them and everyone loses their minds

>>98611509
no one wants to see your goonblins

>>98611530
ok prude

>>98611530
Speak for yourself

>>98611530
I would like to see Anon's goburins irl.

>>98611440
After doing a search it seems like BM's effect is on layer 7a and Maha's is on 7b and that you are correct.

>>98608909
I've actually done this too but not on purpose, I just forgot they were changs lol. It was a great henge and some smothering tithes and jeskas wills

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I do hope this is a card name in the afro set

>>98611400
this didn't happen, btw

>>98611400
>>98611620
Layer 7 is one of the easier ones:
>whatever sets pow/tou to a * happens first
>whatever sets pow/tou to a distinct number (Maha) happens next and overwrites the previous
>whatever buffs/adjusts pow/tou (anthems, etc) happens next
>whatever flips pow/tou (Inside Out) happens next
If multiple cards do the same thing, then timestamp rules apply. If a card sets pow=1 and a card is played afterwards that sets pow=2, then you effectively ignore the pow=1 card until pow=2 card leaves play.

>>98611673
>riff on lion's eye diamond
>riff on phyrexian dreadnought
>riff on spirit of the night
>riff on vamp/worldly/mystical/enlightened tutors
pretty much safe bets on what we can expect in UW wakanda

>>98611690
>riff on phyrexian dreadnought
I understand the rest but not that one

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>>98611738
wakanda has giant mechs (afrofuturism), not that far off to predict that wotc will try to sneak one in for zhalfir

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here you go anon no need to thank me

>>98611768
the next variant would be called Leopard's Eye Diamond this time, trust

>>98611673
I am cautiously excited for Zhalfir, there's a non-zero chance it's completely lame but I think there's a much greater chance that it will be really cool. Africa is far cooler than most anons unfamiliar with it might realise, but that means it could easily be out of WotC's grasp too.

>>98611780
It will be the same thing as LED but you can only activate it if you control a legendary or some gay shit like that.

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>>98611530
That wasn't even me, but what I'm hearing is you want more tradwife goblins only for missionary.

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I miss Alara, bros. It was such a kino set.

>>98610769
Based

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>>98611830
Agreed, we need a return set. We also need a newer/madder baby. Make it cost double WUBRG and have an even worse ability then this and I'll play it until the heat death of the universe

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>>98611869
I accept *our* concession.

>>98611830
Only plane I love is Ixalan.

>>98610524
It really does sound more and more like regretful bag holding
>know a boomer at the lgs
>his whatever tournament hasn't started yet
>we invite him to play commander and lend him a deck
>small talk a bit about a cool legacy game I saw online
>he plays, says I should play
>nah man those decks are expensive
>says if I save a bit each month I could have my deck in no time
>fr bro I'm not THAT interested I'm not spending hundreds of dollars in some old card rectangle
>gets a bit flustered, starts going off how it's a great investment
>investing in what? hot potato to see if the next dude bites?
>set him off
>OH YOU WONT PLAY LEGACY? YOU WONT BUT AN UNDERGROUND SEA? YOU WOULD BUY A PS5 BUT NOT A DUAL? MAKE IT MAKE SENSE
>completely ignore him, tell him it's his turn
I was dumbfounded because I don't own a PS5 nor do I play videogames. Nothing of the sort even came up in conversation before his tantrum. I swear on hot pockets this story is true. Also he spent the whole game on 3 lands, countering my lightning greaves was his only spell, then went off how that's the reason he doesn't like commander, because the players build shit decks, I can't cast these expensive spells, why is hydroblast here none of you is playing red. He showed me his hand at the end and I asked why he didn't cast the Valakut awakening, he replied NO AND BE TAPPED OUT IN YOUR TURN WOULDN'T YOU LIKE THAT then I pointed out it's an instant and he just looked me dead in the eye and left

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>>98610219
this is the first one that comes to mind. 2 sol rings on T2 is pretty fun

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>>98611830
I recently built a Rafiq deck for nostalgia purposes. I even got my foil conflux intro pack rare from back in the day in there.

>>98611887
A return set wouldn't do it justice.

Maybe "anti-proxy" fags just don't like how proxy users are obnoxious.

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>>98611901

>>98611916
Post it. Rafiq was everywhere back then. I even won a few FNMs with him in standard.

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>>98610454
this has been debunked

>>98610524
very cool

>>98610532
the Chinese Reprints have the red dots in the green mana orb now. Have to look at the teeth on the T of the word 'The' in Magic: the Gathering.

>>98610601
this has been debunked as well. nothing comes in untapped, has the basic types and doesn't cause loss of life. this is easy to verify for yourself if you learn how to use the internet to research cards like on "THE GATHERER" –Hope this helps

>>98610633
I need a bayou in all my decks with green/black so I can slap it on the table and say "WE'RE GOIN DOWN TO THE BAYOUUUUUU BOIIIIIIIII". for flavor. thats why I own one real one and 3 fake ones (including a junky obvious proxor)

>pic rel, this is the Vintage Masters reprint by Wizards of the Coast (now known is GōtC commonly on this board, the phonetic sounding lending to a silly meme from the linguistic accent over the "o"). These were only reprinted for MODO however you have to order them from a Chinese Reprinting Service (great service what they do).

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>batto-sama enters and steals a card
>opponent uses Eaten by Piranhas or Unable to Scream on it
>batto-sama eventually meets his demise
Does the opponent get his card back?
My immediate idea was no since returning the card was part of his ability, but a guy argued that since the exiled card is "under" the bat, it has to go somewhere once he leaves since the returning effect is part of batto-sama's ETB and thus already "resolved"

>>98611974
This is an example of a low quality post.

>>98610219
>TQ
Few of them actually
>Tombstone stairwell, Lifeline in Amalia
>Hatred in Evereth
>Femeref enchantress in Yenna
>Squandered resources, Corpse dance, Ritual of the machine, Anvil of Bogardan in Mycotyrant

>>98611901
>the luckiest generation btw
Boomer is probably just mad that during the most fortunate economical time in human history he bought cardboard instead of buying cheap housing that he could later sell to blackrock.

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>>98611825
that's not a goblin

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>>98611974
oh look at that my wincons comes in untapped, are each only one color and don't cause loss of life, truly the finest example of real edh gameplay

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What lands do you think are underrated? For me it's pic related.

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>>98612009
vast majority of cardboard investors are gen X

>>98611976
they get the card back from the ability, it's not even a delayed trigger that can be stifled

>>98612036
I never said anything about THORACLE or U-reach. wtf are you even talking about

This has to be one of the fakest terminally online "debates"
>woah you played a volcanic island??! Is it real?
>yes (lies)
>umm akshually can I green dot test it? (who the fuck says that)
>no, it's expensive
>oh (immediately throws hands)
Tell me when could this ever happen

>>98612047
Daily reminder to buy and play with RL cards. They aren't making any more of 'em! You can always sell them for more than what you paid later, and you get to enjoy them and flex on poors in the meantime.

>>98612054
>no, it's expensive
>oh riiiight (rolls eyes, just thinks of the guy as poor, goes on with the game anyways)
this is what actually happens

>>98612054
this is real and it happened in my mind

Let's switch topic please
That new living weapon bitch sounds fun af. When does she release? Anyone coming up with something saucy or just vomit your fav swords?

>>98612053
if you want to use the best lands without question then i should also be able to use the best wincons without question simple as that mate, don't worry mine are just as fake as yours

>>98612046
Rugged Prairie is better than Soul's Foundry in my eyes, and often even better than my Plateau. Being able to turn W into RR or R into WW basically makes me able to cast any spell in my deck regardless of what other lands I have out.

>>98612072
>That new living weapon bitch sounds fun af. When does she release?
As soon as you print her out. Seriously, this is the few times when literally 0 people are going to care if you are play testing them.
According to scryfall nov 1?

>>98612075
Yeah. I think they are good if you have an expensive mana base, which means all the fetches, shocks and duals your deck can run. If you have those, these filters lands slap. Hardly ever are stuck with them tapping for colorless, and that means they are basically dual lands at that point for mana fixing purposes.

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>>98612046
yeah they're not too bad. I just bought that shadowmoor FETID heath a week or two ago randomly looking through the land binder at an LGS.

I have Flooded Grove in another deck and the OG Future Sight Graven Cairns in another. pretty good overall. not to be confused with some of the worst lands ever which are the ones to pay 1 uncolored to make two of 2 different colors. those ones are actually much worse than they look.

speaking of future sight lands, they need to make ones for the Grove of the Burn Willows Cycle (pic rel). what gives on not having done that in nearly 20 years?

>>98612054
I played with a dude with a real volcanic island last week. hes like 50 something. no ones paying 600 bucks or 800 bucks whatever it is for a revised dual now and playing. maybe some of the other ones that are a couple hundo beat up but the blue ones Millennials and Gen X bought in the 2000s

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>>98612049
So it's because it's part of the ETB and thus inevitable since it has already fully resolved? I assume that something like picrel instead would not give a token if its abilities were shut down, by that same reasoning

>>98612164
I play with a guy who also has a real volcanic island. He plays with it, unsleeved and riffle shuffles.
Makes me cringe every time.

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>>98612073
thats the most retarded cope I have ever heard and you are a moron for thinking that makes sense in your head.

>>98612187
ultra based. yeah this dude sleeves but was riffle shuffling too. I rifflle shuffled my white deck with book cover Gleaming Splendor to fit in. I get it, they're game pieces, they're meant to be played.

>fuck I was diagnosed with ultra asshole cancer and I only needed 200 more dollars to pay for the surgery, I wanted to sell my volcanic island for 1000 but because its heavy play I only got 800 for it, now I die...(like you wouldn't just be able to get 200 bucks from somewhere else in some dire situation where you had to sell cards as the last last last last ditch effort to pay for something....)

>>98612073
Ok, that was always allowed.

>>98612185
yes, those are separate abilities and trigger separately. like with o-ring and fiend hunter, if they leave the battlefield before the ETB resolves, the ETB target won't come back.

>>98612150
One of the most gorgeous foil lands. I wish I picked one up when they were expensive, but not prohibitively so.

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>>98612108
I was wanting to that with Olinda (the "uh oh, stinky! skunk commander) and GEMINI told me players and employees at the store would likely get hostile (I imagine, or think the neural net thinks something will happen like in a Bethesda game when you pick up a red item).

still was planning on doing it just can't figure out an actual good build for her since nothing really interacts with the counters

>>98612262
I haven't seen one (although one particular LGS had several in a binder recently and I picked one up just because it looks so good, frame + art). back when the foils were done with taste and not the whole was just shiny but actual highlights in the art. I'll have to think about picking one of those up.

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>>98612046
I grabbed a metric ton of the pathways when they were cheap. As far as budget lands go these things haven't let me down and are some of the first things I put in a new deck.

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>>98612150
reminds me of japan

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Post dicks
I mean decks.

>>98610219
>TQ
Anvil of Bogardon (No clue if I spelt that right)
Misers' cage

>>98612273
>AI told me some nonsense
Go figure.

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she cute?

>>98612386
>UB deck
>a queer posted it
Every time.

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>>98612273
People will probably bitch and moan if you put counters on their commander but realistically it's a colossal nothingburger. It's like how the average commander player will say Anzrag's Rampage is bad because it exiles cards from your library, or that mill is overpowered. They can't conceptualize that many effects are irrelevant because games won't go on long enough for them to matter.

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This guy is amazing, why is he not more popular?
>Card draw
>Goad dangerous creatures
>Can kill with commander damage.

>>98612639
>mono gay
that's why

>>98612639
>Mono red
>{1}{R}, Sacrifice an artifact:

>>98612345
This is one of the few times where I actually like both versions quite a bit

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How did you guys do today? Won the last game pretty decisively today at the LGS.
>turn 9
>several boardwipes already
>nobody has anything up
>have seven cards in hand since last turn I used Momentus Fall on my Ulamog before someone pathed it because I had up a Concordant Crossroads
>cast Garruk, Primal Hunter
>+1 for a 3/3 beast token
>cast Natural Order on the token, bringing out an Avenger of Zendikar and 16 0/1 plant tokens
>play a misty rainforest, crack it, making the plants 2/3
>tap out all my remaining mana for a Craterhoof Behemoth
>give all my creatures +18/+18 and trample
>swing 100+ on everyone who have nothing up
I'm tired of people talking down on Avenger. He wins me so many games.

>>98612719
This is false. No one plays Avenger in 2026.

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>>98612734
I still play it in almost every green deck I have. It scales so well late game, provides fodder for various things like Eldrazi/Skullclamp, chump blockers or just a big old fashioned wincon through an anthem, or just landfall. It's one of the best honest magic creatures.

Bought a few packs at LGS today

>Progenitus
>Oversold Cemetery and a bonus anime waifu Stitcher's Supplier
>Griselbrand, Odric
>foiled out Offer You Can't Refuse

Pretty neat gets, wtf do I do with Griselbrand and Progenitus though

>>98612310
I like them a lot and think they're just too overpriced or else I agree, I would do the same. the ones I have on MTGO go in every deck but on paper I think I own 2.

>>98612785
Save Griselbrand for his inevitable unbanning. Build proggy EHD deck. It's tons of fun, and a great project build for a bracket 2 deck.

>>98612581
why would they bitch and moan about that? I mean aside from this one teenager random I played against 2 weeks ago who ran out of the front door of the store crying when the other rando (3 person pod) killed his commander on like t5, I dont think people get that worked up dealing with your commander

now one dude countering your commander and always using all their interaction on YOUR shit only is faggy. but putting a UH OH STINKY counter on your commander I dont think would be a big deal at all. plus if the commander is blinked or killed they won't have it again.

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if wotc wanted to make money why didnt they do a mahvel rivals secret lair?

>>98612273
>AI hallucinated some bullshit
wow I'm so fucking shocked, anon

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>>98610219
>TQ

>>98612719
I dont know who talks down on avenger of zendikar. hes been an absolute menace since 2010
but that sounds like a good classic game of ACTUAL commander, congrats. who was your commander?

no Wednesday night commander for me here. I usually play Friday night although between 3 LGS' I can pick Thurs-Mon to play. didnt go on Monday.

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>>98612837
Because WOTC can never do SEXY Females ever again, look at what they did to Lulu.

>>98612850
>congrats. who was your commander?
Azusa. Still surprising people since 2010. People still haven't learned to hate on super land ramp.

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>>98612843
yeah the public facing chat bots are worse than ever for hallucinations. and not super great for magic related stuff even though theres tons of text only databases and has been for decades.

but it just raised an idea that some people could get a bit funky "HEY THATS NOT OUT YET!!!" I mean I had a kid run out the front door when someone killed his commander 2 weekends ago. people are STRANGE (pic rel)

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>>98612854
yeah thats absolutely obnoxious what they did to her. so overtly obvious they hate femininity. its why groomers of the coast/ greater Seattle area is obsessed with the troon shit. they hate femininity but its like a fetish for a lot of them (in the troon community). nothing breaks that fiction in their head more than the portrayal of an actual woman (and in X-2 isnt she PREGANTE?)

this isnt too bad though (pic rel)

>>98612837
They still have the chance, they might do it after the inevitable x-men set

>>98612581
>playing mill in hopes of decking out the table
do people really? raise of the dark realms is right there and its not even a 20 dollar card these days

>>98612869
the other day people were telling me pupu ufo is gonna eat removal on turn 3...

>>98612825
For Prog do I just embrace my inner Timmy and put my favorite big stompy + all the ramp in the world to build a board of threats while waiting for enough mana to cast da big boy?

>>98612871
>and not super great for magic related stuff
Every single time one of my friends tried using them to build a deck, it included multiple copies of the same card, or cards that aren't even in the color identity. It's completely useless for stuff like TCGs

>>98611825
not that guy, but
yeah

>>98612979
I'll do some more "around the hamlet" slice of life tokens as some point then.

>>98612854
It's crazy that Tifa got spared as much as she did

>Whenever an opponent would draw a card or look at the top X cards of their library, they reveal their hand and you choose a card for them to exile from their hand instead.

>>98613011
Because she's the queen of green

>>98612719
I used to win this way back in 2012-2013. Amazing people aren't bored of it all these years later.

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>Perfectly designed card
>UB
Hmm something doesn't add up in the narrative...

>>98613048
>Designed too well means literally no drawbacks
Ok, the tranny that designed the card should kill themselves.

>>98613048
Its good generic value yes but I have no idea what part of her effects really point to Yshtola The Character

With how her aetherisght works I would've thought they'd go for like a Git Probe++ kind of effect

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What are some cards that are just fun to nail people with that they aren't expecting?

>>98613048
>Perfectly designed
>A do nothing, draw card commander
Yeah. Its for lazy brown people.

>>98613089
You just don't get it, it is soooooo hard to have to include some of the best card ever printed in your deck!

>>98613048
In the video he concludes the card is boring overtuned training wheel slop that does everything.

>>98613048
Doesn't matter what he says im gonna build her because I wanna

>>98613103
Ha ha you watched an MtGtuber video.

>>98613118
the "upside" of 'shtoler is that if you go all in on some nonviable dogshit theme, she'll probably make you at least something of a threat just by existing on the board for a turn cycle or two. "losing 4 life in a turn" is just something that kinda happens in Commander. and it fucking includes YOU if people attack you for running out Y'shtola.

>>98613156
Its so hilariously easy to hit her draw, I saw my friend get a couple cards just from people dropping and tapping their fucking lands for turn

>>98612534
>UB decks=gay
Holy shit MTG is basically grindr. Most players have an UB deck.

>>98612386
>Council Of Reeds
How does this deck play out for you? How does it win? A friend of mine is dead set on trying to build it and I want to try and help him out.

>>98613156
I didn't even think about her effect going off when you're hit as well.

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>>98613194
>How does this deck play out for you?
Honestly? Too well a lot of the times. I'm threatening a dozen reeds by turn 5 even with a bad hand. With a good hand I could have dozens by then. I am hesitant to bring it out against lower power decks. It is also a fucking nightmare to keep track of them all (I have to separate reeds if they are made by certain spells like vile duplication.) A board wipe will ruin my day, but no one at my LGS knows what a board wipe is.

The worst part of the deck is trying to keep track of 40+ reeds.

>>98613210
Huh, that is more stronger than I had expected to hear. I was concerned it would flounder a bit and was expecting to need to keep an eye out for anything that could help my friend out when he builds it. I'll still look out but I'll keep in mind the deck has potential to snow ball. I play Orvar myself regularly so I get how fast copies can go out of control. Thanks for the explanation anon.

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>>98613082
The best black "surprise, motherfucker!" card ever printed. Someone's swinging with 9+ power? Not blocked, you say? Okay bye

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white card draw!
opened it today. Wonder if it'll be in the Giada precon coming out in thirty days since it's an angel.

>>98613335
Speaking of Aurelia, what's she up to nowadays?

>>98613335
more like wojak haha

>>98607913
curious what you're running

>>98613406
Greensleeves
JAWS
and this >>98612386

>>98612959
What I did was put every single exalted card into the deck, plus some ramp, draw and extra combat steps.

>>98613082
the hybrid mana card frames looked so good on the old modern border. the contemporary one sucks so much ass. black abyss of turds

>>98612046
Below bracket 4 scry/surveil lands that give two colors are well worth improving your early draws.

>>98613333
this shit only works in bo1 format anon. as soon as people know you have it they are never letting anything through again and it will bite you in the ass.

>>98613451
oh wait i just realized Protection From Everything means I can't target him for equips/auras yes? I need to passively buff the board to get Progenitus stronger

>>98613210
>A board wipe will ruin my day, but no one at my LGS knows what a board wipe is
It is so. fucking. funny. how everyone ran like 5-10 boardwipes not even a few years ago, and now I see MAYBE 1-2 per deck. Lots of people straight up admit to running zero in any of their decks, and then they get salty when a token-spam deck just overruns the fuck outta them by turn 4-5. My Shroofus deck LOVES the current no-wipe landscape

>>98613532
Yeah, which is why exalted and extra combat steps work so well..

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>>98613082
anything with split second

>>98613451
aw shit homie are you the same "Progentius Exalted tribal" guy from a few months ago? Cuz I remember talking with someone on here that also ran all the Lieges + exalted. That deck was a lot of fun back in the day when everyone ran unoptimized funpiles

>>98613546
it literally just comes and goes in waves like the tides. soon we will be in boardwipe meta again.

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>>98613210
i wonder if im going overboard on the clears

armageddon and wordslayer are out of the question since its only b3

>>98613559
That's me, homie. I bring it out once in a while to play a bracket 1/2 games, and it wins quite often, even against stronger decks. Exalted is pretty damn strong if nobody has an answer. Exalted demands an answer if you have a few things out, and in those lower brackets hardly anyone plays interaction so you can slip by and runaway with the game.

>>98613559
Here is the deck.

https://archidekt.com/decks/20401408/progenitus_all_exalted_cards

Because I am running all the exalted and lieges, it's a real fine line trying to fit in extra combat steps, interaction, ramp, draw and ways to get through blockers. I think I have a good ratio of all that because it ends up winning more than it should when I play it. Land base of course could use a bunch of improvement, but this is my "throw extra shit I'm not using in it" deck. I think unless you have all the fetches, shocks and duals, you need to include all the trilands, even though they come into play tapped. My land base isn't the best or fastest, but I don't often find myself wanting a mana pip.

>>98613621
brave the sands? vigilance progenitus that can block two things?
I mean it's bad, but it's funny

>>98613621
>it's a real fine line trying to fit in extra combat steps, interaction, ramp, draw and ways to get through blockers
Honestly I just went ramp + card draw + counterspells strictly for wipes/edicts. I treated it like a Grim Reaper deck where if Prog hits the battlefield, the countdown begins and the table has 3 turns left before it ends due to the Lieges/exalted/some double strike stuff making him OHKO with commander damage
>you need to include all the trilands, even though they come into play tapped
yep they're all there, same with the Lairs. It's b2 at most so I don't mind tapped/bounce lands

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>>98613576
Get Cleansing. It's like Armageddon but they can pay life to not lose their lands.

>>98613639
>brave the sands
I mean, at that point when he is attacking everyone is pretty much cooked unless they have a board wipe. Exalted, damage doublers and extra combat steps just seal the deal with Prog or anything substantial on the board.

>>98613621
what are the equipment for

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Not strictly commander related but I'm trying to unload some reserved list cards directly rather than selling to a store. One of the guys at my lgs wants to buy some cards off of me but he's telling me that private sales are usually 70-80% market value since stores only give 50-60% cash value. Is he trying to dick me here? Sounds like horseshit

>>98613673
Yes, he's trying to jew you over.
The whole reason you accept a lower than market price from the store is that you understand they have to try to sell it at that market value. Direct sales are to the end user, not a reseller. They do not need that headspace. Do not settle for less than market value.

>>98613671
To let anyone before Prog get damage through, or draw card with Skullclamp.

>>98613668
Will putting this not get my pod annoyed at angleshooting? "Destroy all lands, unless..." seems like me just trying to game the rules

>>98613688
Thanks, I had a feeling. I had someone else want to use TCGplayer for pricing despite us both being Canadian. Selling person to person seems like it'll be a pain in the ass.

>>98613712
They have an out from the MLD. They can pay the life of lose the lands. Their choice.
But seriously, if they're that scared of board wipes, they should stick to B1 piles of cards.

>>98613713
It really is. It's better to trade card-for-card, using market value. And if you end up with a few dollars difference, tossing some cash in can settle it.
Or, recently did a trade of about $200 of cards with someone at my LGS. In the end, it ended up with about $5 in his favor because I just couldn't find anything I wanted. I just told him to buy me a Monster from the shop and we'd be good. Or shit, I've seen people buy packs/bundles and use those (still sealed) for trades.

>>98613738
I'm more trying to get cash, which is the issue. I'm playing the game less and less these days, and I'd sooner have spare cash than more cards. I have a lot of duals and legacy staples worth some money, but it can be hard to find a buyer for some stuff. I'm thinking about going to facebook marketplace buyers groups and trying there.

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So everyone and their mother's SpongeBob decks are going to be running this card in it from now on, right? I cannot count the amount of times in my life I've seen people openly quote the night shift episode in public.

>>98613785
Yeah those will probably be best for cash.

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>>98613790
I mean for fucks sakes there's even a literal light switch flicker card.

>>98613790
The hash slinging...trash flinging...ringing ...thinging

>>98613804
I think it's funny. Anyone getting upset at it needs to stop and reexamine their life.

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>>98613818
What fish card do we equip the spatula to tho to represent that nerd with the evil looking nose?

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>>98613834
Why'd they have to power-creep my boy?

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I thought zeta was a gundam reference

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>>98613834
Gulf Squid, AKA Squid of Sorrows but only after you go through this overly complicated win setup.

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>>98613834
Whatever it is it better include alt-art Man Ray.

>>98613848
where's the win

>>98613858
Read what the land does when it gets tapped.
Read what the squid does to all your opponent's lands that you just gave them.

>>98613858
Reading the cards explain the cards.

>>98613860
fog

>>98613848
>>98613860
>when you tap this land FOR MANA
>Gulf Squid just taps it
Yeah uh.. this doesn't work the way you think it does

>>98613870
Have you tried reading the card instead of just guessing what it does randomly?

>>98613872
yeah I'm gonna be honest senpai I fucked up

>>98613870
You're reading the wrong land card, dumdum.
>>98613867
Fog prevents combat damage. Path of Sorrows isn't combat damage.

>>98613879
counterspell

>>98613882
I'm in blue, too. You think I don't have five counterspells in hand?

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>>98613844
Gimme a UB Urabrask as Char in a Sazabi and youve got a buyer in me WotC

>>98613842
the hobbit is a weird place where the bears can go up to 10 power so why wouldn't a spatula be better than a sword there

>>98613804
Built for an Alan Wake Secret Lair

>>98610673
On one hand you are absolutely correct. But on the other hand, true duals are objectively broken in that they're objectively superior to all other lands. Sure, their impact on the game is minor, but it's real. They're just bad design, like Sol Ring, like Command Tower, like Arcane Signet, like Mana Drain, like anything that's strictly superior to the normal power level of good similar cards.

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Utopia
Basic Land - Plains Island Swamp Mountain Forest

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>>98613966

>>98613668
So you mean it's actually just "everyone pays 6 life"

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>>98613954
There's a limit to this I feel you're not accounting for. Dismiss is strictly better Contradict but they're both shit cards nobody plays so it wouldn't be particularly objectionable to powercreep them both.

>>98613979
would this be playable at 0 imo it would

>>98613980
What deck would run it? Manaless dredge?

>>98613860
I don't get it either. Yes, Gulf Squid taps all of the 1000 Sorrow's Paths, but this doesn't cause them to deal damage, they're just tapped by the spell, not tapped as a cost for their own ability

>>98613991
or some red decks