Remember Fires of Cyraxus Edition>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ruhttps://40k.gallery/>paint stuff:https://eavy-archive.com/https://armycrafter.com/https://paintpad.app/https://www.paint-vault.com/>hand painted paint charthttps://files.catbox.moe/82w72p.pdf >3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th/11th Edition Ruleshttps://gofile.io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega.nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>Alternative rules:https://onepagerules.com/https://www.starbreach.com/homehttps://nolimitswargames.wordpress.com/https://www.playrenegades.com/ (kill team alternative)>How to Make Wargames Terrain (2e 2003)https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Inferno! Magazine complete collection (1997-2004)https://archive.org/download/Inferno30/Inferno30_archive.torrent>Warhammer Monthly complete collection (1989-2004)https://archive.org/download/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary_archive.torrent>Games Workshop/Citadel Miniatures painting guides (1989-2016)https://archive.org/download/games-workshop-painting-guides/games-workshop-painting-guides_archive.torrent>Current Collage ThemeRetro>/40kg/'s dudeshttps://pastebin.com/8MwSq81B>Previous Thread:>>98611796>thread question:Is it for the best Cyraxus remain dead since ForgeWorld is not what it was during the Vraks era?
>>98613996>TQYES
>have half a dozen painting projects going at oncei should probably get a diagnosis and medication for this shit
>World Eaters Combat Patrol was only $130 on AmazonShould I feel bad I'm not ordering models from GW Store? I only ever buy paints and the occasional thingy. Even this kid I sometimes play with whispered to me to just order from Amazon cause it's cheaper.
Abbaddon5x fist termies5x sword termiesMoP10x possessedMoEDark Apostle30x cultists2x obliterators2x jump lords ( 1 with plasma and power weapon, the other with claws )5x raptors5x chosen3x mutilatorsNemesis claw1 rhino1 venomcrawlerI think I have 10 choppy legionaries and 10 shooty ones.what would you add or remove to this collection for a beginner? I feel like it is lacking anti-armor.
>TQAoS' Forbidden City was brought back but I think that was because a supplier messed things up. Cyraxus is a different story where the big boy head of ForgeWorld died and I think there may be some jealousy/resentment for ForgeWorld's popularity among 40k fans be they primaries or secondaries. Krieg was an exception and the same goes for Horus Heresy and that's about it. I don't see how Cyraxus could be an exception.Supposedly Cyraxus was said to be "lost" somewhere in lore maybe HH? It might be an inside joke at how the world isn't coming back or spitting on the grave of ForgeWorld.So maybe it is for the best that Cyarxus remains dead if no talents come in able to do it justice. If the talent exists and will be permitted then it should come back, but I don't see it so it should remain dead.It probably is gonna come back if GW wants to nostalgiabait the fans of Imperial Armour.
an astartes without a helmet is like an angel without wings
>>98613996>TQTo Games Workshop’s detriment, Forgeworld barely even exists at all. So probably for the best. This question would be different if Bligh were still alive though.
>>98614019Why the rhino?
The new Ork lore from 11th codexOrks keep winning.Are you happy Ork fans?
>>98614015no GW overprices everything to an insane degree never feel bad about saving money on their products
>>98614022I hate painting spess mehreens without their helmets but I feel like I have to include at least one guy in the squad without his helmet to really sell the idea that there are real people in these suits of armor doing heroic stuff.
>Get whole week off>Was gonna tell myself I was gonna paint the rest of my army with all this time off>Spend all Tuesday playing games as I wanted to play more of that Star Wars Zero Company game and try to play Marvel Rivals again>Get really sick on Wednesday with a bad cough and possibly a sinus infection again and I can't paint in the dining area in fear I'll get my family sick>I go back to work on Sunday
>>98614022I wonder how many space marines die because of a lucky headshot and they were not wearing their helmet.Chaos space marines, loyal space marines. All of them.Has this been addressed in the books? Also how are Warhammer Horror and Crime going? I remember an anon said that a Horror or Crime novel touched on the meme about the cruelest regime imaginable but no bigotry by essentially saying top brass high rankers don't care but the citizens do and that creates friction.
Got a list based on the new points and looking for some advice on finalizing it20 Boyz + Warboss + weird boy10 gretchinWartrakkBig mek dakkarigRukkatruck squigbuggy3 warbikers + deffkilla wartrike3 deffkoptas3 deffkoptasComes out to 995 pts.I need to decide what detachments and disposition to use. Speed freeks + either shoots boys or brute bosses for Purge the Foe is my first instinct.I also have been considering swapping out the weird boy for a pain boy and getting an enhancement on something.
Reject nuhammer.
>>98614033I've wasted painting opportunities for my army like this. And far worse.Thank you for reminding me to sit down and paint.But I probably will procrastinate my way out. I'm sorry in advance.
Warhammer 40,000 can't when all of the if factions are when it's not even then! Why is all it??
>>98614015the kid is smarter than you
>>98614027came in a combat patrol, this is not really an army list but more of a broad collection list
>>98614036>we will forcefully mutilate a person and rewire their brain into a door operating system but we would never ever ever ever ever ever EVER do a racism its so tiring
>>98614033This is real, I find that the only way to paint these days is to just start. sometimes it's only for 10 minutes, sometimes 10 minutes turns into 3 hours.
>>98614033I miss idubbbz.
>>98614038Gimme the PDFs of that era then. All of them, please.E-begging (I think this counts) aside. I wonder if the rules are genuinely good as the nostalgia tainted lads say it is. Probably worth a try due to reputation alone, but I need to set my expectations low. So I don't be disappointed as I always am. Do you lads think GW doesn't do Made to Order rules because they fear the old rules being seen as better (any edition) and fans will refuse to buy current codex? I wonder if GW still seethes at that Horus Heresy Age of Darkness fan supplement that added in a lot of the Forge World era models that had no stats. They probably don't want something like that happening for any previous editions. They probably have the money to create good editions but they fear their fans not moving to the next one because the previous one is that good.
>>98614031It makes no sense for them to take their helmet off in my mind at least
>>98614038>tfw i still have that rulebook somewhere
>>98614054I miss Filthy Frank. I don't care if I'm seen as weird. I like his stuff and now I want a Filthy Frank head STL to use for a space marine or a chaos space marine or a guardsman.Maybe I'll buy his book if I can't find a PDF copy of it.
>>98614038let people enjoy things
>>98614063I miss Frank too, but he at least didn't torpedo his life like idubbbz did.
What do you guys listen to while painting? I've painted all my templars while listening to the kino casino, they're funny.
>>98614015GW store>170 bucks for CPs (up from 160 bucks in 2023)>World EatersDaemon prince (individual kit: 89 dollars)Berzerkers (62.50)Jackasses (60)MoE (35)About 247 bucksTOO MUCH
>>98614038the old stuff was good for it's time but there is a lot it did wrong or wasn't able to do right. back in those days broken codices remained broken until they were replaced.I remember in 8th the GW devs got their shit pushed in during a tournament by a hive tyrant spam list, was quickly fixed with the 3 datasheet rule. Probably was the first time I thought that nuGW was going to turn out alright.
>>98614084I know your ass ain't defending those prices when there's alternatives to get it EVEN CHEAPER
>>98614028>lose war>it's such a good war, another 100 billion orks pour in to fight the nidsKek
>>98614069Yeah he got out at the right time.Hopefully he doesn't hate his past. All of the Filthy Frank STLs are behind paywall on purple site and the trader so my filthy Frank in 40k project is a bit on hold.So I might have to learn to make this in 28mm scale for miniatures.>makehuman still a thing>BlenderCharacterProject>used in Sindel video by Blender teamAlright maybe I have a chance of making a 28mm scale human head for space marines.But do "realistic" faces translate well into the 28mm scale or does basically everything have to be "exaggerated" in proportion to register like how Hot Wheels cars supposedly were?Might make for a good STL bust if I can find one. What chaos space marine legion would Filthy Frank and his team like Pink Guy belong to?
>>98614087>TOO MUCHWhat does this phrase mean to you.
>>98614082scroll through rateyourmusic top rated albums of the current year and pick something at random. currently going through a dnb list atm
>>98614096I'm retarded, I thought you were mocking me.
>>98614028>Ghaz wants to turn Armageddon into a utopia for orks where fighting is constantIsn't the 40k galaxy already a paradise for orks because only war? What am I missing here?
>>98614082acid jazz or old SBFP playthroughs
>>98614082I haven't found any music to listen to while painting 40k miniatures.But then again my ten year old phone's battery would die quickly even on low power mode and I don't have headphones for it.I need a new phone and a power pack.And screen protectors in case I get paint on the phone.
>>98614104THE RACE WAR STARTS NOW
>>98613996>Is it for the best Cyraxus remain dead since ForgeWorld is not what it was during the Vraks era?NO. Bring back hazard suits and Rvarnas and Yvahras and all their FW stuff.Actually I've been thinking even if the IA team was still around the scale of 40k has changed a lot that the campaigns probably wouldn't work as well. Imagine Vraks but now they've gotta shovel knights and the newer demon engines in. Imagine Taros but now supremacy armor, stormsurges, riptides, and coldstars have to have an appereance for the marketing
>>98614049Don't forget how accomodating imperium is for trans folks!
>>98614061>>98614056I have it
>octarius is back to being a stalemateweird
>>98614056https://sites.google.com/view/prohammer40k/4th-editionAt least try searching on google a-tech.
>>98614028>>98614090>Kryptman's gambit has brought the imperium some timeKryptman's plan to buy the Imperium time was a success.The Imperium failed him.Kryptman was right.Only did what he had to be done.Kryptman did nothing wrong. I made this edit in celebration.
>>98614085No need for balance updates if the books are ok on release, the unbalanced books came with 5th ed. Just compare how 11th an 4th look on the table and ask youself who is doing things wrong. 5th to 11th is pure trash.
>>98614135I never thought it was be this easy. >MFW no imperial guardI'm shitter shattered. Booty blasted even.Alright now for everything ForgeWorld made from their catalogues to masterclass to horus heresy to 40k.Even the 8th edition index, 9th compendium and if they made anything for 10th but I think it was killed by then.
>>986141475th is when it went downhill but even before that it wasn't all roses. fish of fury was pretty bad
>old one eye>carnifex>2×3 shooty warriors>2×10 hormagauntsFight my 500 point list
>>98614160I really don't get the dickriding of 4th when it has the most notorious meta list in 40k history.
>>98614161>named characterI refuse.
>>98614128>Verity
>>98614162Because it has a solid ruleset and if you're playing with friends to reenact the joys of oldhammer then you probably won't bring metafag lists.
>>98614163I use it to filter retards
>>98614147Each edition had it's meta cancer strats. You shouldn't be playing with sweatlords, no matter which edition you're playing.
>>98614169Well it worked because I am retarded and I hate named characters.
>>98614082Lofi beats or political podcasts.
>>98614162I think the anon here said it best:>>98614168>if you're playing with friends to reenact the joys of oldhammer then you probably won't bring metafag lists.4th gets a lot of love because people approach it differently, if you're playing oldhammer then you're doing so with a chill game group that is doing it for the vibes. I was really glad when 40k got rid of blast and flamer templates, with friends they are fun but with strangers it's just shit to argue over.
>>98614113never forget and never forgive that fat bald fuck matt or his yoko'ing bitch wife
>>98614054he's still around, sadly>>98614063>I miss Filthy Frankevery single dayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR2vxfuMfvo
>>986141612x heavy intercessors (big)1x heavy intercessors (smol)
>>98614181
>>98614184>uneditedGoing to bed huh?
>>98614181Can such an existence truly be called "life?" No, idubbbz is dead, he died years ago.
>>98614162It always cracks me up when fake grogs seethe about how 'gamey' 40k has become and then proceed to suck off the edition that had arguably the most gamey, abusive rules 40k ever had.
>>98614191I got distracted
>>98614204Just don't play like a fag. Or with fags. Literally every edition can be abused by fags.
>>98614205I GOT CANCELLED
>>98614206Posting this made me realize that realistically every edition can be great if you just play with friends, not fags.
>>98614205up to 211 bans from 197in one day
>>98614198What doth life?
>>98614184Kill yourself
>decalfag agrees with me on something I'll be undertaking my penitence crusade I guess.
>>98614223Renegade Angels is a great name for a space marine chapter
>>98614210thats really the secret sauce. Edition doesn't matter, primaris or firstborn doesnt matter. Play with people you like and you're gonna have a good time.
>>98614162A surprising amount of people have nostalgia for things they've never experienced.
>>98614204People larp and pretend that the editions back then were more casual like I don't remember the fucking hour long melty someone had in store about vehicle faces.Anyone who sucks off 4th I just assume is a fucking loser. Every edition has flaws, just build and paint a thematic list you are interested in and be done with it.
>>98614232>Play with people you like and you're gonna have a good time.And now you know why so many people here spend all day whining about the game
>>98614232You're right, I hate primaris and nu mtg but when I play with my friends, I have fun and even enjoy playing with universes beyond and primaris in the game.
>>98614236homesick for a place I've never been
>>98614232>Play with people you like and you're gonna have a good time.
>>98614236Time has a way of buffing out the bad and leaving mostly good, and for the people who did enjoy 2000s era LGSes they were mostly pretty young if they are posting here. Most people would give anything to go back to those days where they were sitting at their families kitchen table, globbing on paint just to get their new unit painted up fast.
Power armor
>>98614252I just want to go back to a time where there was an acceptably small amount of "those people"
>>98614264Go the fuck to bed you stinky hobo.
>>98614237Exactly why Stillmania remains supreme, even though it was just a joke
>>98614286Excuse me? I just got out of the shower, my balls are as fresh as a spring daisy.
>>98614060>THAT KEVLAR WASN'T YOURS TO LOSE!
>>98614254Power armor
Post (You)r current warham WIP projects /40kg/. Picrel is mine. I'm about 10 or so models away from being finished with the assembly phase. Wbu?
>>98614254>>98614297No.>power armor
>>98614298stay in your discord
>>98613996Why is the mega missing so much shit from 10th?None of the crusade books, none of the campaign books from the end of the edition except 1 single piece of The Maelstrom set, doesn't have the 2024 boarding actions book, doesn't have any scans of the chapter approved missions cards, it's like you 10th zoomers weren't even trying. Back in my day we used to have scans of everything go up.
>>98614298Decalchad leaves and now this bimbo shows up
>>98614298stay in your discord>>98614311go back to r*ddit pedo
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98614311>leaves
>>98614320
>>98614232This is the most important factor, but good rules still matter too, just by a smaller amount. You'll have even more fun playing a good edition with friends than a bad one.
>>98614082Lotus Eaters, usually. Sometimes HistoryMarche.
>>98614232I think the most important thing is just mutual understanding, even with a pickup game, just tell the other guy that you want to have a nice, casual game with a balanced list.There really aren't that many retards in the community, especially compared to mtg and shit.
>>98614254chaos squats were a thingChaos votann will be a thing
>>98614320Preferably a refresh of actual stuff like grotesques, the Court, the tantalus and not "raiders, kabalites and vect on a raider"
>>98614342Yet we have some of the biggest retards of them all. Can't express your nazi symbology on cards after all
>>98614348Chaos androids were a thing, too. At least in a single tiny picture, I don't remember any models for them. I guess that roughly translates to Dark Mech now?
>>98614353I thought you were going to bed
>>98614360vashtorr literally turns robots to chaos
>>98614204Currently play 4th, this tactic is beyond trash, anything can shoot through the devil fish, by the rules you have to bunch your firewarriora on the hatches, any blast weapon will send all your expensive troops to oblivion. Devilfishes are exposed and vulnerable to AT fire. Anyone parroting this tactic is a no games.
>>98614361He's MAKING FUN of the decalpedo you fucking retard
>>98614082Bolt Thrower, obviously
>>98614361Anon... >>98614374 is correct and I'm not sure how tf you missed that
Is it a good idea to get Meganobz now or will they get replaced soon by newer and larger minis?Also with new changes is twin killsaw still the way to go?
>>98614204Hilarious you call anyone else a fake grog while posting this fucking meme that was not actually a thing in 4th.
>>98614394nogames alert
>>98614380KINO
>>98614394Nice self report LMAO.
>>98614401>>98614398Other way around retards, you guys are proving you are nogames who watched some youtuber fag tell you this was totally a thing in 4th edition. It wasn't.
>>98614403You can double down all you wantAny taufag with internet access was doing it once this became a known interactionBut please keep exposing yourself
>>98614403>nobody did this in my local area>therefore it didn't happen at all!So you put the decalfag persona to bed and this is your new shitpost or what?
>>98614403>well documented meta list that still have archive posts on old forums from people complaining about it.>has been talked to death and back, making it the most notorious list that a lot of people remember 4th for.Doubling down is insane, keep going you fucking faggot loser.
>>98614416He's going to melt down about you posting anime now instead, like all posers do
>>98614416The rules literally did not work the way any of you think it did, it was a meme that some retards talked about a lot on the internet but anyone who actually tried it with someone who read the rulebook just got instantly rolled. Go ahead and post the explanation of how you think it worked and then post the rulebook screenshots. This shit has been debunked over and over.
>>98614403yeah those B&C threads from 2005 complaining about it totally don't existthere totally weren't people on the nascent /tg/ talking about this bullshit strat even after 5th edition releasedyou're right bro, it's all a meme because a youtuber you follow told you so!
Is 30 crusaders excessive for a BT list? I currently have 20 and am considering a box that has crusaders, sword brethren and termites in it
>this never happened, it's a fake meme>well, ok maybe it did happen but it was actually BAD I swear
>>98614419>the guy who constantly sucks off 4th doesn't even know how it worksWhat an utter devastating blow to firstborn fags. I will be bringing this up everytime you have one of your melties from now on.
>>98614422It's a meme because my Tyranids literally shit and pissed all over my friend's Tau for the entirety of 4th edition and we read the vehicle section of the rulebook multiple times together trying to figure out what these stupid faggots on the internet were whining about. All of you are newfags.
>>98614430larp larp larp
>>98614429I don't even play space marines, there's like half a dozen guys here who love 4th ed and post about it, take your meds, and I notice you aren't posting any screenshots of the rulebook. How interesting.
>>98614311>>98614298based, we need more women in this general
>12 month sub+a sweet limited edition modelWhy do they never do this anymore.
>Guys I totally played 4th I swear
>>98614419Then surely you have proof of it being debunked? Why is this the first I'm hearing about it and why can you not explain right now itt how FoF was debunked? You're skirting around it without saying anything concrete because you know you're full of shit
>>98614433The cry of someone who lost and is coping.
>>98614384>buy meganobz>throw them on your pile of unpainted unopened boxes>GW releases NEW meganobz>internet says they suck>all the old meganobz get bought up>you can resell your old meganobz for 50 bucks more than you bought hem for>buy new meganobz
>>98614442He can't because he's a larper>>98614444The entire thread is laughing at you bro, just stop posting it's an anonymous site, nobody will know you were the retard spouting fantasy bullshit by tomorrow
can someone give me some pointers how should i build my custodes list against iron warriors?Trajann Valoris (135pts)Blade Champion (110pts)Blade Champion (125pts)Blade Champion (125pts)Shield-Captain (110pts)Shield-Captain (110pts)5x Custodian Guard (215pts)5x Custodian Guard (215pts)5x Custodian Guard (215pts)5x Custodian Guard (225pts)6x Allarus Custodians (340pts)3x Allarus Custodians (165pts)5x Custodian Wardens (250pts)5x Custodian Wardens (270pts)5x Custodian Wardens (270pts)5x Prosecutors (50pts)6x Venatari Custodians (300pts)6x Venatari Custodians (330pts)10x Witchseekers (100pts)3x Agamatus Custodians (225pts)3x Vertus Praetors (215pts)3x Vertus Praetors (215pts)Caladius Grav-tank (225pts)Contemptor-Achillus Dreadnought (155pts)Coronus Grav-carrier (180pts)Pallas Grav-attack (100pts)Telemon Heavy Dreadnought (225pts)Anathema Psykana Rhino (65pts)
>>98614436My book got destroyed by my lunch box when I played warhammer after school.I'm sure when I'm home I can dig up my demonhunters codex. Or my 3k points of metal dwarfs for fantasy.You are just moving the goalposts now because you are a fake grog. Now you need to throw the accusation at me. Unfortunately for you I played midhammer and saw fish of fury.Maybe try 11th, it sounds more your speed.
I was kind of hoping they would do Red Corsairs as a model of the month, or do the Dark Engel Terminator again instead of killing the entire program (or more likely, replacing it with something worse like "buy 60 dollars of shit, get a FREE model of the month!")
>>98614430Explain what people are getting wrong then. You asked others to cite their argument with rules, I think it's only fair you do the same.
>>98614442Dude another anon ALREADY did so before I even fucking got here lmfao >>98614371 and it's the first you're hearing about it because you're a newfag who never played 4th
>>98614427termites are bad for your hardwood floors
>>98614454the larp never stops
>>98614450Put male heads on them
is this the fake grog hours?
>>98614454That is straight up not how it works lmfao.
>NOOO GUYS ARBITOR IAN TOLD ME 4th WAS UNBALANCED BECAUSE OF FISH OF FURY, IT MUST BE TRUE A YOUTUBER COULD NEVER BE WRONGEmbarrassing
>>98614454>quotes a post getting the rules of the game wrong>bases his entire larp around itoh no no no
>>98614456It's okay, I have stone floors. Now how about those crusaders?
>Every fucking faggot in this thread who sucks off 4th has never played itMy sides are in pain, keep going bro.
>>98614465Okay post the rules that prove us wrong, screenshots from the 4th ed rulebook.
>>98614462oh look he was a shitposter all along and now that he realized he's made a blunder he's indirectly replying to his own scapegoat to keep his shitpost going
>>98614458i put helmets since i cannot paint faces, and i don't want an entire army look even worse than what i currently have
>>98614470You made the claim larper-kunLet's see your 4th edition rulebook and the rules interaction that says it works that way
>>98614454>>98614371>anything can shoot through the devil fishHoly fucking retarded larper. FoF wasn't a catch-all great against every army tactic, it was specifically an anti-melee tactic. No shit you can just shoot straight through that wasn't the point of it>durr I debunk da tactic cuz it don't work against thing it not sposed ta work against
>>98614473There IS no rules interaction that says it works that way, that's the point. Burden of proof is on you. Go ahead.
>>98614477>burden of proof is on younot how it works, you can't prove your claim and you're now deflecting and turning schizo tooshamefur dispray
>POST YOUR BOOK NOW>okay where is yours first?>NUH-UHMan midhammer bros are never going to recover from this retard. This is like decalfag for 4th Ed.
>>98614163What now?
Shitposter-kun is trying so hard
why are nu-40k fags seething about 4th edition?is it frustration that they missed out?
>>98614450Same way you would vs everything elseLionsTrajan + GuardBlade Champ + Wardens6x Allarus2x4 SistersI'd run Bike Captain + 3 bikes and another minimum bike squad and either 2x3 or 1x6 venetari with spears.I'd do 1x6 and then do a giga drop turn, rapid ingressing allarus and venetari at the same time.I don't think you should run a caladius unless you have 2, when it's only one it's prone to whiffing, better to just get more bodies imo.
>>98614486Nobody's seething about 4th edition, we're just laughing at an actual newfag who's currently trying to save face on an anonymous board after making a bogus claim
>>98614476>it was specifically an anti-melee tacticYeah but all you newfags who weren't there make the claim that the devilfish blocked LoS in one direction and allowed the tau to shoot without being shot back. That's what half the bitching on the internet believed too because people didn't know how to read the fucking rules.Also it wasn't actually any good against real melee either, I just ran my carnifexes and genestealers into the tanks and ripped them to pieces. Oh no I can only hit on 6's! I get fucking d6+3 attacks on the charge with a crusher fex and even one hit is nearly guaranteed rape with S9.10 +2d6. Pulse rifles were not the scary against big armoured bugs. This whole shit was overblown.
Yeah you aren't changing the subject anon, that was just embarrassing. If you wanna stay in the thread you are going to get laughed at.
>>98614494>took this long to shift the goalposts>still got it wrongLMAO
>>98614495What is this schizo babbling about? Take meds.
>>98614494>Yeah but all you newfags who weren't there make the claim that the devilfish blocked LoS in one directionLiterally no one said so itt you retard.
>>98614498Ain't working bro, keep pretending you played 4th.
>>98614498>just over a minute after >>98614494hmm I wonder why you felt called out by that post lol
>>98614497You're so fucking retarded lmfao
>>98614506Sorry that I actually played in 4th (and 3rd!) unlike (you)
>>98614497>erm that's wrong!>still hasn't posted rulebook screenshots of the pages that prove his made-up version of the rules
>>98614494>My list was tailored to beat it, so it wasn't an issue for anyone
>>98614510Not the one you demanded that ofKeep seething larper
>>98614082Joanna Newsom unironically.
>>98614511>tyranids taking the big awesome new carnifex model that just got released which you could run 6 of in that edition was "list tailoring" specifically to beat devilfishLMFAOOOO this is how I know you guys are the LARPers and projecting
>>98614506>>98614510>just barely a minute apartThe more you samefag this desperately the more I'm convinced that decalfag is a persona of yours, shitposter-kun. Particularly after the insensitive comment at the end of last thread
>>98614519>shitposter-kunDo you actually think you are clever trying to call other people that name that was given to you? No one is falling for it, the fact that multiple anons can independently identify you from your seething abrasive tranny posting style is damning.>the end of last threadI haven't been online for 10 hours kek, are you just here all fucking day? Go outside loser.
>>98614514>cousin of president newsomWhy is every famous person related. I mean I know why but you'd think with social mobility going down the rich and jewish would let a little guy win every now and then.
>>98614522Just who do you think I am if I'm so recognisable? Btw end of last thread was about 2 hours ago... Where'd you pull 10 from?>I-I'm not shitposter-kun or the mutant I swear but I'll still twist the truth and lie through my teeth!(You)
>>98614487thanks anon
>>98614522Wait, but you said last thread that that name was given to me and I didn't make the post you just quotedCould it be that your schizophrenia is unreliable and you can't actually tell who you're replying to?
>>98614535>Just who do you think I am if I'm so recognisable?You are shitposter-kun. You are not fooling literally anyone.>Btw end of last thread was about 2 hours ago... Where'd you pull 10 from?Yeah that's my point retard I wasn't there at the end of last thread, my first post in like 10 hours was here >>98614332 so I have no idea what retarded shit from last thread you are even bringing up.
>>98614513Based>A supper of salt and a waltz to your empty bedDescribes /40kg/ fairly accurately
>>98614511That's not his listHe just googled "how do I handle FoF as nids 4e" and scrambled to get a post out
>>98614539>but you said last threadTake your fucking meds holy shit
The immolator is an efficiently costed way to remove cover. I would have thought knights, custodes, and perhaps even guard would be taking them as allies all the time. You can take 2 per one squad of battle sisters or you can take 1 per inquisitorial agents unit.I suppose guard have their hellhound for that purpose, though the immolator is a few points cheaper.
>>98614547>take your fucking medscoming from the shitposter who thinks he can identify anonymous posters that don't glow anywhere near as bright as the mutant
>>98614544Holy kek this level of delusional cope
>>98614542We're witnessing a man's mind shatter from being so derisively mocked over his wrongness in real time
>>98614542I've never been labeled as shitposter-kun so no, epic fail broski>I've lied about everything else but please believe that's my only post in 10 hours please please I swear!?Somehow I don't believe you.>>98614547>falseflagging to divert attentionLast (You)
>>98614552>cope cope tranny copeGet a new script shitposter-kun
Have you ever considered being an obnoxious retard is not the best way to convince others of your position?
>>98614547You're the only one who needs his meds LMAO
>desperately samefagging on two devicesYeah okay I've had enough of giving (You)'s to this retarded tranny tonight lmao
>>98614563Thank you for conceding, shitposter-kun
>>98614560What you need to understand is heavily autistic shitposters cannot ever admit to being wrong, so instead they will just insist on getting the last word because in their mind that means they wonLook at this larper who tried to put out false claims about FoF and when he got the slightest pushback tried to put words in all of our mouths to say he was still right
>>98614439I need a recast of that model if it is originally a metal or resin one. Maybe a good scan.Looks fun to paint.>>98614441I've never played 4th. I am skeptical of how fun it is because a lot of people say it is the best but I know nostalgia is playing heavily here.I think the problem with GW now is that they are chasing the tourney mindset and sacrificing "fun" on the tabletop knowing that the fans will just put up with it because they want to win more than to have fun. The right 40k edition should be handholding tier easy to learn meaning it will be easy to teach newcomers but hard to master. Not in the "shrimplified not shrimple" mindset.Maybe WarmaHordes was like that before PrivateerPress went beyond full retard.
>>98614567That anon was talking to you
>>98614563>Four posts in under a minute all laughing at you>Y-you're on your phone samefagging!!!Okay bud let's pretend you're not a schizo, who did the other two posts? A ghost?
>>98614572I was talking to everyone
>>98614572See? Said he's done but he NEEDS the last word lmao
>>98614572Meds
>>98614575>>98614578>desperately samefagging on two devices
>200+ posts>barely any models posteddire
>>98614571>Maybe WarmaHordes was like that before PrivateerPress went beyond full retardI only played a bit of warmahordes, but it was a "gotcha" heavy game. Out of my maybe dozens of games more than two where "btw, this guy does this, I win"
>>98614580Yes you started repeating your script because nobody took your shitpost seriously enough
>>98614580What happened to being done? You didn't even last a full 7 minutes!
Wait, has the anti-primaris sperg been seething from one topic to another for the past 10 or so hours?
>>98614015People buy from GW?why?
>>98614589a couple of them but this one's been going for several hours now, he's hopped to pretending to play 4th edition instead
>>98614538No problem.Here's what I run atm, I'm 3-0 with it so far (and they were pretty big wins):Trajann Valoris (135pts)Blade Champion (110pts)Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike (155pts)5x Custodian Guard (215pts)6x Allarus Custodians (340pts)6x Allarus Custodians (340pts)5x Custodian Wardens (250pts)4x Prosecutors (45pts)4x Witchseekers (50pts)2x Vertus Praetors (145pts)3x Vertus Praetors (215pts)I run bolters on all bikes, bike captain has fierce conqueror but it's not that important. I start either one allarus or trajann's unit in deep strike.The fact that you can score 60 points in the last 2 rounds is silly and will probably get changed but atm it's extremely favorable for an army like custodes, you just use first turns to set up, focus on killing and then score in the endgame.
>>98614427No BT players?
>>98614542Your very identifiable posts from last thread trying the same thing were over 10 hours ago btw
>>98614584My bad then anon.I assumed WarmaHordes was somehow tourney+fun perfectly hybridized.Do you by chance think the appearance of Warhammer tournaments that fostered a community of buying product to keep up with balance updates is what convinced GW to chase the tournament scene more than casual fun? I think Warhammer 40k rules rely too much on friends having fun with 40k together because the presence of each friend makes the experience better and "compensates" for the more tournament focused rules. I'm just theorizing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZKcl4-tcuoHARLEQUINS
Firstbornfags will never recover from that dumbass pretending to play 4th.
>>98614608>mfw Eldar Harlequins are mentioned>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQPfPEJsswI
>>98614604Does that first retard actually think people were referring to a singular person when they said shitposter-kun
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98614584Should have been "maybe dozen games">>98614606I wasn't really paying attention to GW at the time, but if WarmaHordes was big enough for GW to feel a threat, then it's entirely possible they'd pivot to steal the niche.
>he has variations of chaos idols now
>>9861461299% of all firstbornfags throwing fits have never owned modelsSame with 99% of all primarisfags shitposting about primaris supremacyThis is knownThey're honestly probably the same posts on both sides, they just do it for easy (you)s
>>98614629GW shot themselves in the foot back then and WarmaHordes and many other alternative wargames benefitted greatly from GW's failings. WarmaHordes would never have been the "Pepsi to Cocoa Cola" if that makes sense. It had a chance of being a thorn or two in GW's sides but the giant could keep walking if that better explains it. Still it is tragic how Privateer Press handled it. For the most part I liked their Cryx for their looks. Supposedly Star Wars X-Wing was getting more popular than Warhammer 40k so GW put out Aeronautica Imperialis. I think most sales for that were for Epic Armageddon players to have some plastic 6-10mm scale models. But if GW really did change course desperately because of PrivateerPress it was probably a small percent from PrivateerPress and moreso desperate flailing to do things right and pumping out the Primaris and the contrast paints. Primaris are never gonna move away from being a desperate gamble of a dying company. Even if they finally nailed what a marine should be proportioned at with the Primaris and updated Chaos Space Marines. But scout marines in all their variations will always be a stupid mistake.
>>98614623Hey so, that first post is a retard, but I'm actually the one who outlined shitposter-kun several threads back and did indeed attribute the name to one person. The dude itt right meow is him, he does all the classic shitpostery things around the same hours of operation. Ofc after trying to pin that name on him way back when, he's been trying to falseflag others as shitposter-kun (and boy does he love to falseflag). I've also talked about how my most schizo theory is that this asshole is decalfag, and after the racist ass comment in reply to someone's trauma last thread I feel pretty validated. Surely not even an autistic lolcow would stoop that low AND THEN argue about it
Should I model my Tau pathfinder KT with or without helmets?
>>98614644Oh so you're actually schizoid thenYou gonna call me him now because I'm pointing out how batshit insane you sound?
>>98614640I think the Primaris are King thread spam was a deliberate effort on a dedicated Firstborn fanboy to make anons here hate Primaris. I pulled this truth out of my crusted anus.
>>98614439They just shifted where these limited models appear
>>98614644>and after the racist ass comment in reply to someone's trauma last thread I feel pretty validatedThat was decalpedo, not shitposter-kun (assuming they are different) how is it evidence they are the same person.Also, you think this is the aggressively gay "newfag"?
I actually got to play two games of 11th edition today. Unfortunately both games were vs Imperial Knights. I did manage to pick up a 28 W lancer on turn 1 by focusing my entire army on it lol.The missions are still a bit confusing thought, I'll need more reps of 11th to get them down smoothly
>>98614644Yeah it's one guy and he's false flagging with his 4 posts in under a minuteHe's so good at this he's got 3 phone plans so he can rapidfire them and he's totally also the thread lolcow just throw that in there too why notYou're not crazy you just have it all figured out
>>98614645do you like painting faces?
>>98614467i did and although it had its own charm its not something id like to return to. maybe for a game or two with my old school friends but we havent talked to each other for a decade at this point so that isnt happening
>>98614589yes
>>98614655man that board looks real depressing, i think its the snow theme thats putting me off. what is it like playing against knights, i still havent played a game against them
>>98614644>Surely not even an autistic lolcow would stoop that low AND THEN argue about itThe decalfag spammed down several threads then tried to say it was a false flag and even after people provided proof that it was him he then said his spamming was justified, he tried to organize several raids on this general and tried to bully his way onto the fridge because he thought the mods would take action on his behalfYou think him arguing about making an inappropriate comment to somebody's blogpost about losing their child is too ridiculous?
>>98614644oh its the retarded australian that hates being called ratfag. its time for you to stop anon, not everyone is the same person, we dont have all day to post on this board
>>98614655>The missions are still a bit confusing thoughI've been using the 40k app and it's been really helpful, so if you haven't been using that yet I'd highly recommend it even just to get your head around the cards.
>>98614625at least post karen, she's the one that had minature painting stream.
>>98614674He's not retarded he's just doing it for the attention, don't reward him
>>98614645like with every army, always helmet on
>>98614037Brute bosses doesn't do a lot if you don't have points for enhancements. I would either find a way to shave some points or find anothet detachment.Your boyz with warboss and weird boy has a lot of punchy power for a 1000 pt game, you could go Green Tide to make them even scarier, but then you're on T&H.
>>98614596well, i build my bikes with rockerts. my first game was against world eaters with 2 forgefiends, and it made me build my armies with anti tank capabilities.
>>98614678Even Orks?Even Tyranids?
>>98614652>how is it evidenceLike I said I just don't think even an autist would stoop to that level. Particularly when several anons then replied to say he was out of line, he kept arguing it. I just feel like if decalfag was real and wanted to fit in here he would've backed down, possibly given some sort of apology, not argued the point. The way the "mutant" was arguing then felt very much like shitposter-kun, twisting details ("I just thought it funny joke!" to "it wasn't a joke I was being sincere and supportive!"), always having to get the last word in.>you think this is the aggressively gay "newfag"?Not sure who you mean desu, I don't think so. Shitposter-kun knows 40K well enough to get everything wrong on purpose and stay just within "ontopic", certainly not a newfag
>>98614682People use this as a joke a lot but you genuinely need medication And a break from this site
>>98614679Was the errata to take 3pt detachments at 1k points game wide? I thought it was just an agent thing.
>>98614667It's extremely swingy. If they roll well you end up losing multiple units in just the shooting phase and their fnp and imvulns are annoying too
I actually quite like the new Intercessors, but I have no reason to buy anymore. I already have 15 of them, what would I do with 25? I suppose conversions could always work I suppose.
>>98614681do they have helmet options?`
>>98614670>You think him arguing about making an inappropriate comment to somebody's blogpost about losing their child is too ridiculous?No, not at all. I think "a" lolcow, not necessarily decalfag, would harbour a shred of humility and back down. Decalfag not showing any remorse there is what makes me think it's a persona and not a real human bean. Particularly with the way he was arguing as I talked about in >>98614682>>98614685>no refusal/contrary evidence to the accusationsI'll take that concession
Remember when that leaker came in with genuine inside knowledge that even the leaktubets didn't know about gw changing the release schedule in 10th and pushing the space wolves refresh up and we all laughed him out of the general
>>98614679>>98614686Oh wait, I got it confused with warhorde. Nevermind. Any opinion on swapping out the weird boy for an enhancement? 'ardboys on the mob might make T&H a bit easier.
>>98614690I have 5 because I started marines with the dogshit blood angels combat patrol from 9th that had half of the box and I never felt the need to get more.
>>98614697Nobody spends over 8 grand on models and commissioned paintjobs just to shitpost
is this "shitposter-kun" just a term for several posters or something
>>98614582truck nuts
>>98614603crusaders kind of suck but you can use the models for other things (scouts, intercessors, ass intercessors)
>>98614682>I just feel like if decalfag was real and wanted to fit in here he would've backed downThen I think you're misjudging him.>Not sure who you mean desu,The guy who jumped in with "I know nothing of 40k but I watch lore and jerk to femboys" and spent hours responding to posts ending his responses in some variant of "I'm gay btw"
>>98614707Right, but all the mutant's pics where on reddit. There's no need for shitposter-kun to have spent that much money>uhh timestamp!Can be done with AI now, and the timestamps I saw were all pretty fucking dodgy. Wake me up when mutie shows us a new pic that's truly not available elsewhere online, until then I'm living in my schizo bubble
>>98614710Adding -kun is just a memeThis retard trying to turn it into a new poopdickschizo name isn't representative of anything
>>98614693You did say always
>>98614718>Wake me up when mutie shows us a new pic that's truly not available elsewhere onlineThat's how we found out he was definitively the one who spammed down several threads you fucking tourist
>>98614702They aren’t a bad unit, a squad is usually good to take unless you’re going for that Battleline detachment (where you’d bring more)
>>98614717Oh that dude, kek. I just took that as a classic 4chen obvious joke poster, not shitposting. The bit wasn't subtle or insidious at all. Back during the skittle release for DT I posted skitussy pics knowing it would rile up the die-hard MAGAtards, same vibe
>>98614723Perhaps I missed this then, when did it happen and care to explain about what pics he posted that weren't on reddit?
>>98614699It happens.When I leaked the old world box set everyone in /wfg/ laughed at me.
>>98614735>when did it happenMay of last year when his tantrum got really bad>care to explain about what pics he posted that weren't on redditHe posted several pics of his models from selections and angles not present on any of his nine reddit accounts and with no shared md5s while he was spamming tranny 500 times in under 3 hours
>>98614705If that is life savings then what is Warhammer 40k?Going into debt to have to engage in a life of crime?
>>98614743Fuck sake, he actually had 9 reddit accounts banned?You wouldn't happen to know their usernames would you?
>>98614738This book has ruined me because I want to eat that>>98614743Fair enough and yeah I've heard that event referred to but didn't see it first hand, I'll bend the knee then and partially accept they might be two different people. Wonder why he doesn't reuse those pics, it's always the same ones.
I can totally understand fictional guns are not 100% realistic, but at some point, I gotta point out obvious BS that can only come from people with zero understanding of firearms.
>>98614700I think you can do WarHorde in 1000 pt, it wasn't supposed to be just for agents, but I don't remeber where in the rules they put it. But the rest of your list can benefit well from KoS, so another 1dp isn't a bad idea.Weirdboy seems fun, and being able to put your biggest melee threat into deep strike is a big deal, even though you probably need to do rapid ingress to make a charge consistently. I would try Weird first to see how it plays.
>>98613996>TQI'm not sure, part of me hope that eventually they may release the book in some form, I believe that Alan Bligh (RIP) may have written a large part before the cancellation and it's possible that one of their present authors might complete it Or at least FW or whatever it is called today can eventually release AB's unfinished draft just for the sake of nostalgia ?
>>98614730>that spoilerThere's nothing wrong with being tired of an old joke that was started by an unhinged "artist." Admittedly that artist was pumping out lots of pieces that created the meme. It amazes me how one artist (even if insane) can create a lasting meme that eventually solidifies itself as a "subculture" of a Warhammer 40k faction's following.I think the Genderbent Primarchs is another example of this sort of thing happening.Is there a term for this kind of pattern that happens?
>>98614755Yeah there are limits to when not even scifi-magic can wave away design inconsistencies. That is one of them.
ordered my collage models
>>98614763Sounds a lot like idiot of the East and Gulliman/Yvraine shipping spreading that stupid meme too
>>98614763>unhinged "artist."What makes them unhinged? Pretty sure anyone who can draw this well is an artist too.>nothing wrongExcept you just wrote someone off purely because of your own political affiliation and got triggered over me talking about and not even posting certain pics... There's a lot of wild stuff out there anon. You can't control it, but you can control your reaction to it.
>>98614715Well damn I got 20 of them, guess that's what I get for thinking the big mob of marines is cool. Guess using them as regular swordie boys isn't bad though.
>>98614778The Guilliman x Yvraine shipping was happening before Idiot of The East artist got in on it. And his stuff was just him having a comedic time. The skitarii artist may have been more motivated by other mentally ill things I don't really want to think of. Primarch artist is just a good anime style artist showing the world his tall muscle mommy fetish that I share. Genderbent art existed long before he made his female primarch art.I'm that guy who daydream-posted about being an artist and endgame goal was to be as decent as Hetza Hellshock's anime military girl art. >pic relatedI do not believe that anyone who sets out to deliberately create a community meme among the secondaries can succeed. It has to happen accidentally.On a somewhat different note if GW wants to really get Warhammer 40k going in Japan they gotta get anime artists to fill in the art parts of Warhammer 40k codexes and rulebooks instead of the artists they use already.They (Hetza Included) would definitely not make stupid mistakes like that Commissar holding a boltgun upside down and a space marine bolt rifle being comically thin instead of bulky wide as they are supposed to be.
>>98614056>Gimme the PDFs of that era then. All of them, pleaseLiterally in the OP my guy, the torrent has everything from RT to 9th edition including most of HH
Looking through RT for ideas for the collage and god I love some of these fits This is a Navigator Patriarch, it's neat to see how things have changed
>>98614769>that combois this going to be a gooner diorama?
>>98614817How to torrent please? I'm scared of giving me PC aids. Supposedly we stopped using Megas because trolls would report them. A subreddit called "sigmarxism" was blamed but I'm not sure if they are the culprit.
>>98614780>What makes them unhinged?If what anons said are true the artist is mentally ill and this is demonstrated through her guro fanfictions. >Except you just wrote someone off purely because of your own political affiliation No because she is unhinged. >and got triggered over me talking about and not even posting certain pics.Well I have played Darktide a lot and when the Skitarii were coming out the repeating jokes were made they got repeated ad nauseum. You did catch me at a good time. Because I was in a lobby and the lads were repeating skitarii femboy jokes and unironic krieg shovel jokes.
>>98614743>in under 3 hoursI'm sorry anon I can't believe this. You have to post proof. I need proof to believe this. >>98614751>redditI need to make an account to get into the the supposed subreddit about Warhammer recasters if that subreddit is still up. The problem is I think a less than a month old account would make them suspicious that I'm a GW employee. Understandable that they'd be cautious. But I also have a 3D printer so sometimes I wonder if I should even bother if that makes sense.
>>98614834Download qbittorrent (or any other torrent client I guess), click "add torrent link" and put in the code that's in the OP.If you have it in your clipboard it will paste it automaticallyThat's literally it.You can pick and choose what to download, I think it's 51GB in total but I only have about 5GB downloaded
>>98614853Thank you anon.Have you run windows defender scans on these and they turned out fine? I use a Linux PC so I may not have access to the bigger antivirus softwares. Not sure about virtual machine usages.I want those Warhammer 40k PDFs. I don't want to have my PC get infected.Can you run a virus scan and report back results on them being clean.I better not see AVG.When I was a kid I nearly destroyed family's old PC because I had no understanding of viruses. This was early 2000s. I'm still rattled about it. But the flash games were fun.
>>98614157Check the 3rd ed section dumb dumb.
>>98614859Yeah, no issues from them.It's mostly just used now because it's a lot more takedown resistant than a mega.If it was just one or two things you wanted I'd upload them to catbox for you
>>98614859stop being a spoon fed pussy
>>98614868Thanks!>>98614870You can never be too paranoid when it comes to keeping your system secure. Especially when you sail the seas to get stuff for free.Especially when it is free 40k stuff in digital form.
Bit more work on snikrot, Orks have been such a treat to paint compared to marines in sense that i can put a third the mental effort in and still get the same if not a greater satisfaction from painting.
how long untill custodes codex?
>>986148782 months
>>98614874which is why you should always view the files before you download them.
>>98614880is there any info if they'll include some of those new weapon from hh
>>98614882I'll have to do some research on this. I've heard malware can hide in PDFs which is how the sharty hack happened that's why I'm still iffy on torrenting those 40k files.
>>98614884they already said they'll include all plastic hh shit, so they're probably waiting for the new terminators to come out too
>>98614384I think killsaw str was nerfed a bit
>>98614852>I'm sorry anon I can't believe this. You have to post proof. I need proof to believe this.Not him but it's easily searchable in archive sites. Almost every single instance of the word from that time period is either him posting it or in the text of people quoting his posts.
canon marine cheeks
>>98614905This kills the thread
Vintage bros, how are we going? I had some proper hobbylet moments today as I dont really use ballast for basing anymore>didnt prime it>didnt let the glue dry properlyAlso dont have any static grass so ill have to hit up the lgs for that
>>98614950The old style bases do have a bit of charm to them
>>98614875wow mr i like orks :D poster you've improved heaps
tell me what's wrong with them.
>>98614957No. 1 They are custodes.
>>98614957bases
>>98614961that aside. tell me what's wrong with their painting
>>98614957They're not naked>>98614966They could paint me if you're picking up what I'm putting down heh
>>98614979i just need to know if i'm utterly dogshit at painting or is it fine
>>98614590Sometimes they get coupons i guess and/or its close to them and they get their models on the spot without waiting this is how it is with my brother.
>>98614590Convenience usuallyCheap-n-fast is neither
>>98614993There's nothing convenient about buying full price directly from gw
>randomly stumble on reddit posts about an Eldar Knight CodexInterested that other people had the same idea as me. There was also a guy who wanted to do an STL for Cegorach and sucked and never did it the fucking faggot.
Played my game of 40k on tts as space marines, my buddy was playing tyranids. Why the fuck do marines feel so limp-wristed ingame? I thought they were supposed to be epic badass aryan superchad heroes who can beat superman's ass in a fight? Is this why most 40k communities deride the actual game as not being canon?
>>98614957You have not coloured inside the lines. Gold flecks on the robes, silver details totally outside the lines. White splotches across the spears.There is very little depth of colour. Little is done to draw focus. Eyes should be a focal point, but their lenses are as dim as the the red cloth, if not a little dimmer. Missed mould lines are also visible, across the boots and the back of the lowered spear. Others might be present but the picture is blurry enough to hide them.>>98614985Going by this post, it seems like you are focusing on speed rather than precision. Speed is an important skill, the more important skill if your focus is getting an army on the table, but you should try slowing down and taking more time with them. A more stylised aesthetic could look good at this level of messiness, but you have not leant in to any such aesthetic, nor are custodes particularly well suited to messiness, and so the work ought to be more clean.
>>98614999>the same people who share my ideas are the redditoriansInteresting.
>>98615010clanker
>>98614998I mean being able to walk into a store and buy the item you want instantly is pretty convenient.Having to order from a jank webstore, waiting for the russian to send you a paypal invoice and waiting for them to get sent to you is less convenient even if it saves you money.Even if you just compare webstore to webstore, being able to pay instantly is a convenience.Stop being a silly billy online, you can dislike GW all you want but don't be retarded about it.
>>98615008Game balance vs lore, tale as old as time. Hard to balance an army of supersoldiers between being numerous enough to cover half a field but feeling as powerful as the fluff but not too powerful or other faction players Q.Q Still, marines tend to get pretty favourable strong rules so I'd also chalk it up to you not using some of their better units and/or just not knowing game strategy and utilising them well
Painting my Bolter Eradicators and I like these guys. Are any of the other non-flying Gravis marines any good?
>>98615018>Having to order from a jank webstore, waiting for the russian to send you a paypal invoice and waiting for them to get sent to you is less convenient even if it saves you money.
>>98615018>Having to order from a jank webstore, waiting for the russian to send you a paypal invoice and waiting for them to get sent to youBro your third party game stores? It's 2026 if you live inna first world country there's definitely a game store somewhere that'll do 20% off with free national shipping over a certain threshold
>>98615018I don't think the only options are shady foreign recasters or directly from GW's webstore.
>>98615008See, back when the fluff was good, marines weren't what you described and still felt more badass than they do now on the table. But when the total genocide of secondaries and tertiaries comes, you won't have to worry about what those so-called "40k communities" think anymore.
>>98615027That's how ordering from recaster webstores works, anon. >>98615032>>98615030I mean he brought it up so that's the example I used.Buy from 3rd party stores with a discount all you can.
>>98615018>I mean being able to walk into a store and buy the item you want instantly is pretty convenient.You can do that in a lgs that offers a discount.There's literally no advantage to buying from gw directly.
>>98615046>There's literally no advantage to buying from gw directly.GW support is better for direct purchases, they don't do replacement parts if you buy 3rd partyThat's the only thing I can think of
daily reminder leman russ sucks big red wolf dicks.
>>98614957>>98614985I'd agree with the other anon that you're churning through 'em too quick. That red is beautifully saturated but has 0 depth, no wash, no layering/highlights. Meanwhile the gold armour looks as if you spent 5 seconds on each mini overbrushing tf over any detail with silver, very sloppily and inconsistently. Slow down and be more mindful about where the paint is going, spend some time applying a wash and then lighter layer/highlighting for pops of colour. Have you watched any painting guides? Would recommend paying attention to the full process
>>98615064You don't have to post shit like this when he's not around, anon.
>>98615008A space marine is powerful but so is everything else in the galaxyThe point is that the Marines are outnumbered and facing foes as tough as them, but the marines win through flexibility. They engage the Tau's superior firepower with melee, gun down Ork hordes from afar, and work together as a team.
>>98615013rude
>16 Troupe members including the Troupe Master>2 bikesI got all of this for 14 bucks back in december 2023 when they squatted the harlequin codexSo why do cunts want to sell used troupes for 35 bucks for 5 and bikes for 40.
>>98615008GW has a vested interest in selling you miniatures so marines are never going to be as elite as they are in the fluffFuck if you think marines are bad look at custodes fluff vs crunch
>>98615071I promised him I’d make it a ritualpost, and so it will be a ritualpost until he fully fucks off and accepts his 211 lifetime bans.
>>98615083>Why don't people sell me stuff at the same knee jerk price they did 3 years agoGee I don't know anon you tell me
40k is a gag setting, and part of the joke is that humanity's finest super soldiers, genetically modified to absurd degrees, >7' tall monsters programmed for war, are merely equivalent to what their enemies have.
>>98615097Ah, well carry on then. Maybe just consider doing it during his more active hours, I know he lies all the fucking time but this is definitely well past his beddy byes
>>98614769Is that a recaster that those are so cheap? Fugg I need to find a good one for my Eldar stuff
>>98615087Custodes fluff has slowly degraded over the years since they became an army and had to start engaging in actual battles and suffer loses. Like it used to be a lore moment that a single a custodes died (Xerxes) and now they just suffer single digit losses in every engagement.At least they haven't made them totally job to any other faction yet. Not even the one time everyone memes about with the Harlequins.
>>98615098it's not the knee jerk or whatever that's annoying but people overcosting harlequin models now.
>>98615139>Not even the one time everyone memes about with the Harlequinsthat's not a meme, they were absolutely slaughtered
>>98615139>>98615146I haven't read the story in question but I think its very funny people can't even agree to what happened in it.
Kind of tempted to just leave it at the preshade, orks are pretty gay if they don't have genders anyway
>>98615008I feel like Space Marine 2 (the Vidya) actually captures SM vs Tyranids quite well, on the highest difficulties. Without all member of the squad being on the ball at all times SMs will just get drowned in bodies or taken out by a sneaky play by the nids. Remove some of the gamey elements and Tyranids become fucking terrifying, like they should be. Basic bitch Tyranid warriors are roughly SM sized and they are also genetically engineered super soldiers with singular purpose knowing no fear.
>>98615156they call each other boyz thoughbeit
>>98615008Try fighting marines in melee as guardsmen or tau shitters and see what happens.
>>98615156they have one: boy
So when you guys say retro, are 2006 orks retro or do we need retro retro like early 1990s?
>>98615156Is this for yellow? Whats your process for it?
>>98615161>>98615163Boyz or boiz?
>>98615164retro is anything before I personally got into the hobby
>>98615153Read for yourself. Each Harlequin kills about 4 Custodes before being gunned down or captured from their sheer numbers and about a dozen lie dead at the end of the fight.
The Stuntie Smashaz went up against the votann again, this time the stunties had some reinforcements from the Petram-Stynnus Coalition in their ranks.Pretty fun game overall, 1500pts this time instead of 1000, so I added some stuff to my list and he focused more on hearthguard this time. Gonna post some pics and moments I remember from the game.
>>98615164Its not retro if it was around at the same time as Playstation 2
>>98615161Ork Femboyz
>>98615173Turn 1 was a nothingburger, but in turn 2 the Orks smashed in and downed his landfort, while most of my nobz/meganobz failed their charges and stayed in the center of the board.
>>98615158>Basic bitch Tyranid warriors are roughly SM sizedThey have always been bigger than marines, especially in the past
>>98615178I hate to tell you unc...
>>98615173Oh hey that gold votann player posts here too. Nice.
>>98615164despite us being further from 4th edition than 4th was from rogue trader, the spirit of “retro” is meant to be the really old shit like rogue trader. granted, I seriously doubt collageanon would deny your entry over using 20 year old models, so if that’s all you have then go crazy with it.
>>98615187That's me too actually, I lent the blue votann player some of my models because he only has 1000pts painted and holds himself to the same standards I do with fielding painted models only.>>98615182My meganobz survived quite a bit of firepower from a brick of hearthguard, I used Too Arrogant To Die on them and they managed to sweep 5 of the stunties out of the unit before biting the bullet.
>>98614476>anti-melee tacticNo, it was an anti chaff tactic, that is the only thing firewarriors are able to kill. Firewarriors can only kill 2 or 3?marines per turn when rapid firing.. If your melee army list can't deal with a blob of medium infantry or an AV 12 vehicle your list sucks as much as you do. Fish of fury is a meme.
>>98615173>manlets need TWO armies to competeWhen will they learn
>>98615182that cyan looks so beautiful. I’m not sure if he intended it, but I do like how the more industrious units in >>98615173 have simple bronze to make them look less fancy and presentable than their cyan colored counterparts.
>>98614875such a happy little guy :Dthat’s an ork who loves his line of work.
>>98614755Bad art based on a bad source (the model designed the fit Azrael's body) is bad. Now look at the original.
>>98615195Some of the other hearthguard dropped into combat to help their steeljacks, and the champion rolled a huge 6 mortal wounds on his charge. The hearthguard swept the rest of the unit afterwards, meaning it was the Warboss vs the einhyr champion again. These two are forming a rivalry already.>>98615202Oh yeah I love his cyan votann, it's even more impressive because the guy painting them is colorblind.
>>98615164It's open to interpretationYou could even paint modern orks but in a retro style
10 Hellblasters dropped off by a Repulsor and protected from charges by the Repulsor special rule.Or 5 Hellblasters riding around in an Impulsor shooting out of the Firing Deck 6?Either one can also have a Librarian with Fullisade for more memes, if that's worth it.I like both and can fit either. Here's what I'm working with so farhttps://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/mkT4w
I'm officially a Wizard today, /40kg/
>>98615171This is what harlequins should be on the tabletop, the eldar equivalent of custodes rather than basically a weirdo aspect warrior unit with incompatible rules.
>>98615217And unfortunately, my new big boss suffered from new model syndrome and bit the big one after only killing 3 hearthkyn during the game.That's actually my last pic, we called it at the start of round 4 because the votann player hadn't scored any primary and had actually lost most of his units, as well as the both of us being on a time crunch. We're planning a rematch next week with the new Ork codex, we might even go up to 2k. I'm deciding if I want to make a Stuntie Smashaz 3.0 list or go with the kult of speed.
>>98615227The takeaway is not that harlequins are godly warriors, but that custodes aren't.
>>98615197Are we really rehashing this after how badly you got spanked before?>Firewarriors can only kill 2 or 3?marines per turnThen there's the markerlights buffing them, crisis and broadside suits, hammerheads... The FoF blob is just the anvil, larper-kun.
>>98615226You are among friends.
>>98615226>turning 23 next month>still haven’t gone on a single dateluckily I’m becoming more sociable, and I hang out with a bunch of girls one on one as friends, but its starting to look bleak.
>>98615143That's just one guy who thinks his mini is worth more because he painted it, since he's asking for more than GW rrp. The fact that it's available means other potential buyers agree with you that it's overcosted.And why? Because it doesn't cost him anything to ask a stupid high price and see if someone falls for it.
>>98615087>>98615008KEK
>>98615226I became a wizard too but found a gf after. There is a path to lichdom for you too, wizard. Don't give up.
>>98615253Hey, I had felt like that when I was 23. I got over it. Nothing improved, but I got over it.
>>98615008did you miss the squad of marines getting butchered at the start of the game?not all marines have protagonist energy
>>98615226>I'm officially a Wizard today, /40kg/You think you're not going to be okay, but I promise you will be. Use this hobby to form a friendship group and the rest will come in time.
>>98615270>Nothing improvedGrim. Grim dark even.
>>98615223Do the impulsor, its more fragile but much faster.
Still deciding on chapters for the 4 RT era marinesI'm pretty sure this will end up being a Fire Hawk
I like orks :D
>>98615327
>>98614049The imperium persecutes abhumans all the time. Its 38 thousand years into the future and you think they'll still be doing modern racism? Retard.
>space wolves
>>98615347>Its 38 thousand years into the future and you think they'll still be doing modern racism?Humans have been on earth longer than that and have never stopped doing "modern racism", why would they stop in the future if the same problems that cause racism are still there?
bros my baby was born black despite me and my servitor wife being whiteshould i kill the baby for mutation? is it the reincarnation of vulkan???
>>98615367>why would they stop in the futureNTA but humanity in 40K is a ginormous. well mixed melting pot, so that's point 1. Point 2 is that the Imperial creed has them busy pouring all their hatred into xenos and heretics. Point 3 is that they're well passed a lot of the cultural events that have happened in our modern history to cause said racist views... Anon is right, it's a whole new world and set of cultures, why would it reflect ours that much? The same human emotions and flaws exist, just manifesting/channelled in different ways
>>98615408im trans btw not sure if that matters
>>98615367>actually blacks and whites have been killing each other for as long as agriculture has existed.Listen dude. Racism is a product of tribal dynamics which are themselves a product of human instinct, it is an inseparable part of human social dynamics.HOWEVER. When I mean modern racism I am specifically referring go the beliefs and stereotypes of modern racists, specific ideas of the character of blacks/whites/asians or what ever will not make it 38k years into the future.The reality of predjudice does not change but the specifics do. Whatever racism the imperials practice will be weird and alien to us
>>98615234Drazhar gets glazed by the fact that he 1v3'd some custodes, so it is clearly meant to be an accomplishment.
Tribal dynamics stole my bike
>>98615433Yeah but he did that and walked away. The Harlequins all died doing that.
>i am sabotaging this objective>oh yeah well im plundering this objective>uh huh im consecrating this objective>you can't do that i cleansed the objectiveall of these do the same thing of "skip shooting to gain points" (except consecrate where you have to shoot for points) with no actual impact on the terrain, objectives, or turnwhy can't i summon reinforcements or lay a minefield or blow up ruins?
>>98615440you know you can just ignore the objectives and focus on boardwiping your opponent right
>>98615427we've seen plenty of discrimination that humans in the imperium visit upon each other and much of it is the same as today. In Gaunt's ghosts, gaunt's daughter has to hide her gender because of the politics of their planet.This idea that 38,000 years in the future they will discriminate each other based on something totally unknown to us is not born out by anything, and especially not the black library novels.
In the grim dark future of 41000 AD trans rights are human rights
>>98615433Imagine being a guardsmen, seeing three of the emperors glorious golden demigods come to provide you salvation, then watching them die at the hands of a single wicked shadow.
>>98615348
>>98615440Write up some new missions and play em then.
>>98614103Not at the scale and intensity that Ghaz desires to super-evolve the Orks
>>98614028How are the Orks resurging from the nommed worlds?
>>98615319I find of abandoned what I was doing and im just fucking around with oil paints now
i went to the warhammer shop for the first time yesterday and this fat faggot who doesnt even work there kept pestering me to buy a 3d printer so i left
>>98615443>racism and sexism are the same thing.That is that and this is this. Sexism has went barely changed for most of human history, racism changes constantly as we invent new slurs and forget about old ones.
>>98615442the opponent can still win on points, but i just want there to be some kind of tangible reward for completing objectives that changes the way the game is playedI guess I'm saying I want something like Crusade? Except it doesn't have to be a multiple mission campaign, just things that affect the one game you're in like "a warp storm causes [psychic] weapons to have [hazardous] until end of turn" or "when plundering the objective your [grenades] unit finds a cache of explosives, the next grenade stratagem this unit uses is free"
>>98615462>>98615319Candius cornstardes
>>98615473I as going with McMarine but that works too
>>98614755Ignoring the fact here >>98615212 I will say that that gun could still work, but people are not ready for that conversation.
>>98615448What makes Drazhar cooler than Phoenix Lords? Is it just that he never talks? Is it the Darth Vader symbolic blade of evil thing?
>>98615472im sure itll be iterated on at some point but yeah that sounds fun
>>98615451Hellblasters?
>>98615489I don't think Drazhar is any cooler than the other phoenix lords, I think GW just lets him be cool more often.
>>98615465if you're advocating that they introduce a new slur for the nappy headed hoes they put on the cover of every black library novel, then sure I'm all for that.
>>98615226Happy birthday, anon
>>98615427>>actually blacks and whites have been killing each other for as long as agriculture has existed.unironically yes
>>98615497In progress how about yours?
>>98615520>how about yours?That's the way I like it, and I'll never get bored
>>98615489he's edgy and uses a cool weaponmalekith is the real warhammer darth vader though
>>98615504I'm telling you that you're fucking stupid for expecting modern racism in 40k. Mostly because GW is a business and doesn't profit from it but also because the idea that your beliefs will still be at all relevant to the modern social landscape in even a thousand years is fucking laughable. The arabs went from inventing algebra to fucking their goats in that length of time. The word Nigger isn't gonna make it through an interstellar diaspora, a five thousand year dark age, an imperialist conquest and another ten thousand year dark age.If you wanna be racist then be racist. But if you wanna put racism in my science fiction then you WILL engage in speculative science fiction racism. Don't be lazy.
>>98614141Based, I never doubted my boy for a minute
>>98615489being evil makes something instantly cooler
>>98614015>only >$130 Absolute state. >Should I feel badWhere do you think the kits even come from, even at a discount geedubs still got their money.
>>98615543>inventing algebranta but they didn't and comparing capitals & cities with rural villages is wild40k should go harder on xenophobia because crazy bigoted zealots are more interesting characters than reasonable relatable goody-to-shoes, especially in a wargame.
>>98615489>>98615498> Maugan Ra single handedly saves his totally not mutated by chaos Craftworld from the Eye of Terror and cucks Abandon > Solos a hive fleet> Helps save Iyanden from another Hive fleet> Still hasn't died and is his original body and self> Skull and reaper motif but actually pulls it offIdk Maugan Ra sounds pretty metal to me.
>>98614028>omg the stakes got higher guys!!1!Marvelslop yet again
>>98615543>but also because the idea that your beliefs will still be at all relevant to the modern social landscape in even a thousand years is fucking laughableanon, I don't think you understand that racism isn't cultural
>paying out the nose for 40k kitsThankfully I can buy alternatives for my army even within GW’s model line that isn’t absolute murder. That said, if you’re a marine/chaos player you’re gonna need to bite the bullet and learn how to buy (and possibly repair) secondhand stuff so you aren’t constantly getting monetarily fucked in the ass.
>>98615561>racism isn't cultural
>>98615562To be honest the whole game looks like murder for new players, imagine starting an army from scratch let alone getting all of the hobby supplies.
>>98615570We like it that way, keeps the low IQ and lazy out of our enriching hobby.
>Why doesn't gw say NIGGER in the codex? I can't play if it doesn't say NIGGER.why are you like this
>>98615569nta but he's right. It's more often than not a cover/excuse for narcissistic people to feel superior by putting a group of people down.These kinds of personalities exist in 40k, therefore it should exist there. It's maybe even genetic.
>>98615554I'm not saying imperials shouldn't be xenophobic fuckwits. Xenophobia is a core pillar of their religion of course they're gonna be racist.I'm saying they should be a kind of racist thst makes sense in universe considering their ancient and modern history. Don't just make the Ecclesiarch a Klansman and call it a day. Thats tacky and unimaginitive, not to mention ahistoric.
>>98615569It isn't, it doesn't matter the culture, a different race will be discriminated against.
I don't think people would be nearly as racist towards other baseline humans when muties and xenos exist
>>98615586People are not ready for that, unfortunately, as they cannot separate fiction from reality.That's why in fiction you can brutally murder and torture people and that's socially acceptable, but not being mean because of prejudice, because people are actually okay with brutal murder and torture, while prejudice is taboo and directly makes you called a bad person/ostracized.I hate when fiction gets poisoned by the feeble minds of the masses, always torn between mutliple equally retarded taboos.
>>98615599Yes, they would, they would just be more racist and racist towards a greater number of things.
>>98615605>nuh uhno u
>>98615599Both would exist, we have disabled and disfigured people and they get shit on too. As for xenos, the closest thing we have are animals and you know the kind of shit some people do to animals. There are people out there who think animals are soulless and incapable of feeling pain, let alone conscious.
average imperial works 20 hour days and doesn't have time to be racist
>>98615569It really isn't, it's genetic. All humans are inherently tribalistic and tend to have an in-group preference.
>>98615610why would they suddenly stop being racist? do you think people have a limited allotment of things they can hate?
I'm trying to find a good rainbow colors scheme for EC but I'm torn, what do you fags think
>>98615621And we know the imperium is really nice and wouldn't force people to do both at the same time.
>>98615621That's plenty of time to be racist to your co-workers that make the job environment worse.
>>98615587Race is a cultural concept. What's the physical difference between a romani and greek or an italian? There isn't one.Skin colour is a low hanging fruit and one the yanks reached for but racism happens because a culture needs an out group to oppress.In the imperium thats abhumans, who are far more phoenotypically different than any modern race and are (mostly) no where near the levers of power. This makes them extremely easy to oppress.The only exception are the Navigators who are space jews.
>>98615626I think the original noise marine did it best: it had rainbow elements but otherwise was patchwork of gaudy patterns and colors.Slaanesh marines aren't just flamboyant, they are so mind fucked by decades or even centuries of constant super hard drug use that their sense of fashion is both fucked and lost. It's not even about them looking good from their PoV, it's simply madness.TL;DR: original noise marine
I hear you're a racist now, Preacher? Should we all be racist now? What's the official line the Ecclesiarchy is taking on this? Because the agri-farm takes up most of the day and at night I just like a cuppa recaff. I might not be able to devote meself full time to the ol' racism.
>>98615520Lmao you've had a year great progress you're making
First 40k unit almost done. A few touch ups here and there still need to be done. Need to finish the back banner for the exarch, and the aspect shrine token. I really don't know what to do with the guns, and I still need to buy some basing stuff. For the guns I'm thinking just dry brushing some white and color the gems? Might do Wraithbone colored guns next time.Learned a lot and would definitely do some things differently next time, but I'm starting to get the hang of using the oils over an acrylic base. Still need Giga practice with brush control though.
>>98615639>There isn't oneYes, there is, they're different to each other so they hate each other, and they don't stop hating each other just because there's even more different peoples out there.Hell, hive cities would soon create tribalistic differences between families, let alone races.
>>98615645It's the Eldar I'm after, they invented gayness.
>>98615238FoF meme parrots = no games.
>>98615660Nah that was the space wolves
>>98615643The OG noise marines are so SOVLful holy shit. could modern GW even make anything like that again?
>>98615668Trying too hard.
>>98615543>nigger wobt survive 38000 years of warBehind the word NIGGER is an idea.And ideas are bulletproof.
>>98615687> Behind the word NIGGER is an idea.And ideas are bulletproof. >starts bull whipping a pack of nogs viciously In Warhammer 40K
>>98615672>could theyYes, they always could, they just choose not to.They remade noise marines into a 6 man squad of not-havocs.
>>98615657Anon. Racism reinforces the in group through the creation of an outgroup. That is the entire point of Tribalism. thats why we evolved that way.
>>98615555>cucks AbandonWhat has Abaddon to do with anything? They never met. Abaddon never went near that Craftworld>> Still hasn't died and is his original body and selfActually, he did die.
>>98615701>wenta but who's we? There's a difference between "caring for the group" and "creating a us vs them mentality out of convenience"
>>98615673Aw I was hoping for one of your gay Soprano gifs
>>98615701>Racism reinforces the in group through the creation of an outgroup.Please, think for a second, how are the in-group and out-group determined, in your mind, if there aren't differences between them? Of course there are differences, and of course those will always create racism.
>>98615626if I was painting EC I would probably airbrush on a neon color gradient. and then paint on random patterns from the 90s like swirls and cheetah print.
are your decal wolves racist?
so isDrahzar Arrha or someone else?
>>98615721Damn this feller here got a masters degree in racist, impressive.
>>9861572570sDISCO EC or bust
>>98615727They’re tribal and untrusting of outsiders to ensure continuity within the ranks.
>>98615626The rainbow only looks like a rainbow when the colors are in sequence, that way you get crayon marines.I think you should accept that you can't apply the rainbow onto the whole miniature, across the whole army, and instead work with something more doable, like making them all have a rainbow running from their pauldron to their hand, and then make the rest of the armour colorful in other ways.
>>98615709>nta but who's we? There's a difference between "caring for the group" and "creating a us vs them mentality out of convenience"Humanity. This shit's genetic. When something goes wrong and we need something to blame we find an other.If we cannot find one we invent one.This has been happening for thousands of years and we regularly see it happening in 40k. It's why the imperium has a zero tolerance policy on aliens. Someone needed to get blamed for the age of strife and since everyone actually responsible was fucking dead humanity decided to blame the ultimate other.The Emperor reinforced that perspective because it helped him build a single human identity and that identity has been whats kept the imperium from balkanizing.
in group out group stole my bike
>>98615717>bogeyman posting
Them nocturnians keep stealing all the amasec and grox from the store, raping unattended servitors and get free thrones from the administratum every month, taken straight from my tithes. We are the same people though and I shouldn't discriminate against them. Yes.
Any Ork painters here planning to use the waaagh banner as their retro model for this months collage? Want to make sure I'm not doing the same thing as another anon this time.
>>98615664Run out of arguments again, shitposter-kun?
>>98615758>Humanity. This shit's genetic.No, you just told on yourself.
>>98615721Eh, there is a difference between casual and competitive racism. Hating someone because they're different is the most superficial layer. That prejudice only becomes systemic when its useful to the people running the system.There is no utility in making baseliners hate each other for their melanin content so modern racism as a widespread thing doesn't exist in 40k and trying to make the commissar a klansman would be supremely cringe.
lmao
>>98615795>hate each other for their melanin content Do you really need someone to tell you that people don't hate niggers because their skin is dark, but because of the way they behave?
>>98615812>um it's about le behaviorso what's up with racism against east asians then
>>98615784Cope, none of your arguments are valid, you have not played a single game of 4th ed.
>>98615796>watching any of those videos>watching any of them to completion>posting them hereHaving autoplay enabled isn't an excuse, it just makes you an even bigger faggot.
>>98615788Do you really believe that discriminating against other people only happens because of malfeasence?No, humans find reasons to hate other humans, if they can't find them they invent them.Racism is only one aspect of this. Reinforcing social structure through hatred of the other is everywhere. Its not a good thing but it is natural and resisting it takes consious effort.The elite do use this instinct to control the plebs through choosing the other tho. That's also a tale as old as time and it features prominently in 40k.
>>98615740>or bustEC players will do that regardless.
>>98615838watching those dogshit>ITS OVER FOR REAL THIS TIME!!! (Part 38)channels is a guilty pleasure of mine
>>98615824also their behaviour, have you been around them?
Im still so disillusioned by our resident lolcow “primary” using AI for his modelsThis is a tough pill to swallow bros…>>986158264th ed is pretty coolAnd I guess I’m pretty cool for playing it too :)
>>98615840>Do you really believe that discriminating against other people only happens because of malfeasence?Not what I said, what I said was that it wasn't everyone.By saying it's everyone you're including yourself, obviously, so I don't need to argue that, so I'll simply add that you're clearly trying to justify / deflect your own responsibiluty by blaming genetics or "human nature", because it's easier for you, rather than look inwards and realize you want (and maybe even like) being that kind of person.Last (you)
>decalplopper wakes up>shitposter-kun suddenly rehashing old shitHm, curious...
I am not having fun with 11th and I think the power level inflation will be terrible going forward.
>>98615858Behavior like building safe, prosperous societies with low crime rates?
I dont like niggers because of their behavior its that simple dr. plebbit touch grass
>>98615869>>98615874Disgusting baitnigs
>>98615877Ah yes because Manila is widely known as a safe and prosperous city shut the fuck up and get back to talking warhammer dork
>>98615892>Manila>east asianDamn, I guess the education system in Arkansas really is hot dogshit
>>98615845EC ftw>>98615890nta but its not baitdecal got exposed yesterday for using AI for his models the whole time
>>98615869Yeah it's a little shocking. Furry, mentally challenged and now not even a primary. He should just pick a struggle already.
>>98615812Do you need someone to tell you that what you think about black people today wouldn't matter to an anatolian warlord ten thousand years ago?And that it shouldn't matter to some wacky space racist thirty eight thousand years into the future?If your am*rican then you're probably the descendent of some retarded religious zealots who fled their home because the king of england was sick of their shit and was gonna genocide them. Those same ancestors would have beaten you to death with hammers if you could somehow meet them.You're a product of your time period.
>>98615898Dont forget to dilate your neovagina lardass
>>98615903hellblaster status?
>>98615824>What's wrong with IndiansUhh, the fact their behavior is fundamentally counter to European values and ethics? Their default cultural behavior is one of extreme selfishness. I've dealt with MANY of them, being Canadian, from all over. Christian Indians, British Indians, Island Indians, etc. High class or low class, they just don't understand real altruism that is the foundation of European ethics. Their "altruism" is very much done out of a deep selfish desire to show face.
>>98615899No he didn’t you lying scumbag
>>98615892>Get back to talking warhammerHm so now the rules matter to you huh. Still a hypocrite i see
>>98615877Behaviour like scamming, nepotism and organised crime.If you think they have safe, prosperous societies with low crime rates, it's only because you're comparing them to places that are not ALLOWED to build them because they're forced to import niggers instead.
>>98615910>indian>east asianbongie...
>>98615909My god you just call everyone you disagree with the decalanon huh?
>>98615922>decalanon
>>98615921Sorry I just realize that's not who was meant but a lot of Indians here have taken to label themselves as "Asian, east Asian", sometimes more accurately "South East Asian". I'm just suffering from Indian derangement syndrome that's all.
>>98615902>wouldn't matter to an anatolian warlord ten thousand years ago?yes, it would, people ten thousand years ago already considered some specific people as little more than animals. >And that it shouldn't matter to some wacky space racist thirty eight thousand years into the future?yes, it would, because those same animals, if allowed to persist, would drag down the functioning of any society in that future even further.
>>98615912Yeah, he did?I was there
>um you le have to support me and do things that benefit me because our great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfathers lived in a 100 mile radius of eachother o algowhy are racists such cucked goycattle
>>98615472Sounds like the warp cards from earlier editions. GW is a sperg about balancing the game for compfags so I doubt this is something they'd ever support even in casual settings, people would flip out at the idea of getting a bad roll and losing 1 point of stats on a unit even if they're 20 VP ahead of their opponent. For me? I miss the units that could convert other units or create new units like the old FW lord of change or the tyranid brood mother. I think 8e or 9e took them all out or at least removed their model spawns. I like the idea of some missions having a third party faction that's aggressive towards both players, or a mission that makes a player play 2 armies at half the point cap like allies of old.
>>98615949/qa/ lost
>>98615940Jfc I cannot imagine being so blinded by any ideology that I'd think it'll survive that many years and a whole galactic civil war into the future. I'd almost feel sorry for you racists if you weren't all so fucking stupid
>>98615872I'm sure the fact that you feel so righteous in putting me down for the belief you have attributed to me has absolutely nothing to do with the exact sort of bad habits I'm talking about and that human's are purely rational creatures, wholely separate from the rest of the animal kingdom.That's why we're causing the anthropocene extinction too probably. Gotta show nature who's boss.I do thank you for the reminder to interrogate my belief tho, I hope you practice what you preach.
The human part of the imperium is already basically taken over by indians and that's why most imperial worlds are so shitty.
>It’s 2026 and white people are still calling each other racist It’s over…in Warhammer 40K
>>98615949>>um you le have to support this place on the other side of the earth at your own coat and do things that benefit this people on the other side of the earth at the cost of your people because... um... because otherwise you're a meanie
>>98615974Tranny
>>98615985Why do you think that word has some mystical power that's going to make anyone quake in their boots or burst into tears? Are you going to throw a 3 hour shitfit tranny spamathon again?
>>98615983>oh so you hate pancakes then?You saw that my objection to racism was that it cucks you into doing shit for people of "your" "race" against your own interest and your counter to that is "WELL YOU WANT TO SUPPORT PEOPLE OF A DIFFERENT RACE" no you fucking retard this is why I'm a me supremacist
>>98615974Have you been paying attention at all? it's not some sacred ideology that survives and gets passed down, but a basic way of how humans tribalise that crops up independently literally every single time, every single place and has done so since there's been differences between people.The one and only possibility for your run of the middle racism to not exist in the grim dark future would be if the gene-engineering mankind went through for colonisation purposes has made race just skin deep.And even then people would discriminate on beauty standards or familial connections regardless.
>>98615997You're doing a shitty job at being a you supremacist then lol.
>>98615980I’m just genuinely racist personallyAgainst xenos that is ;3
>no you don’t get it the imperium is actually zogged and transclusive like the shithole city i grew up in because *wall of schizobabble*shut the fuck up lmao
>>98616011the mechad does does not ask the (you)sheep for its opinion
>>98615997>this is why I'm a me supremacistrun that mentality through enough trial and error and it becomes supremacist about yourself, and your closest ones, and the ones associated with your closest ones, and of the place you and your closest ones and your associates live in.
>>98615997So you’re the ultimate bigot thenYour in-group is so small it only includes one person and you discriminate against even the slightest variation from your genetic codeThe Emperor would be ashamed…
>>98614015You shouldn’t feel bad, but whether you should do it or not depends on the model. Amazon classifies them as toys internally so they’re rough as shit with them in shipping. They often just chuck the model kit box in a paper envelope and throw them around the facility and in the trucks. Stack shit on top of them, everything. Half the models I get off Amazon have their original packaging caved in, and only those little sprue supports saved my model.
>>98616005It's funny how it's not an ideology apparently, according to you, but children don't see skin colour and only learn discrimination off others... Anything to help your racist ass sleep at night igAnyway I'm going to go write a book about an inquisitor who pauses his cultist investigations to go deal with some damn pesky niggers loitering about nearby. What a great 40K tale
>>98616022>He doesn't care about his family or friends>Posting in a thread about a hobby that requires friends to enjoyYou waste your time AND don't let yourself enjoy the company of other humans you care about. SAD!
>>98615997>You saw that my objection to racism was that it cucks you into doing shit for people of "your" "race" against your own interestno, it doesn't racism isn't defined by sacrifice to your in-group
>>98616037None of my family were racist but I was extremely racist as a small child because the only niggers I'd met were retarded and smelled like poop. Turns out they're all like that and child me was right.
Shut the fuck up
>>98616037>but children don't see skin colouryes, they do, studies have demonstrated that easily and kids are amongst the most discriminatory of groups
>>98616037Children of the Imperium see skin color?Like when they call orkz greenskins and stuff
>>98616049Is this AI?
Truth is we’ve already discussed ad nauseam the simple fact that because of how advanced and perfectly grim the future is within the Imperium that they would have almost certainly engaged in eugenics and purified the majority of races DNA to match that of its top of the line racial group(European). The fact that nog marines exist is just to satisfy the real world’s financial institutions so they don’t destroy the company.
>>98616049why does he have cum in his eye???
>>98616060No.>>98616062The wolves are just like that
>>98616049>LimitedLmao
>>98616049Why is it limited?
>>98616037The differences between people are imagined but people will keep imagining them anyway.We pass our prejudice to our children but even in a lord of the flies scenario the kids will still figure out some reason to discriminate. The song changes but the dance never does.Carthago delenda est
>>98616061This
>>98616061>they would have almost certainly engaged in eugenics and purified the majority of races DNA to match that of its top of the line racial groupthat's what I'm already taking for granted, as well as levelling out most of the issues with women as well
>>98616070>the differences between people are imaginedCringe and heresypilled
Imagine spending a year on a single squad
>>98616037
>>98616070>The differences between people are imaginedlmao
>>98616070> The differences between people are imaginedExcept yanno the fact that mixed race people cant give or receive organs from anyone in their family because of their mutt genetics
>>98616081Japanese modelers spend 20 years learning just how to paint scout marines before moving on to intercessors.
>>98615253>girls as friendsDoesn't exist. They all expect you to date them.
>>98615461They're tapping into the cosmic power known as "the writer said so".
I fucked up the angle of the light so it didn't really catch the front, so you can't see my attempt at marble, but you can probably see the handpainted eldar runes on it. This is about as complete as it's gonna get.
>>98616049"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness"
>>98616070>The differences between people are imaginedI haven't followed this comment chain but I just know you're brown
To be fair, the human races we see today evolved over what, 120-200 thousand years probably? Maybe even 12k for the non-nogs?A lot can happen in 28k years especially with genetic engineering shenanigans.
>>98616087>ModelersYou are the only one in these threads i ever see refering to us hobbyist primaries like that. Gives you away every time.
>>98616098Yeah, there would be no niggers left in the far future at all.
Im just gonna come out and say that if your primary hobby is doing paint by numbers on toys you’re fucking gay lol
Are we really confusing>seeing differenceand>acting on that difference?Groups existing does not mean people automatically act badly towards a group.Eldars are a different group, but not all humans are mean to eldars and vice-versa.
>>98616103That’s not him but you can also easily access the archives and search for the term modeler and see it’s been used forever constantly, you big fat idiot.
>>98616098rough map estimated dates
Mods are asleep, post models
>>98616107Not him? Likely story.
>>98616055>AI overview
>>98616106If you recognize a difference you will subconsciously categorize people by that difference and form biases based on your lived experiencesYou can try to manually override those biases by intentionally and consciously choosing to disregard them, but the subconscious bias will still exist
>>98616106>Groups existing does not mean people automatically act badly towards a group.they automatically act more positively towards their group, which means they act less positively towards the other group, not to mention that mental and physical differences create differences in performances and those create reasons to discriminate >Eldars are a different group, but not all humans are mean to eldars and vice-versa.is this sarcasm or just stupidity?
>>98616117>click the first link>it says the same thing, but way more long winded with ads
>>98616106No, people look for something to blame when something goes wrong so they find or invent an other to descriminate against.When things are going well the opposite occurs. Thats why the human race didn't become super inbred and die out. Tribal units in times of plenty would go out of their way to breed outside of their communities.Thats why it is vitally important that you never ask to meet a racists wife.
>>98616127And is the first link a peer reviewed study or just some blogpost think piece? Do they even teach primary and secondary sources any more, zoomzoom?
>>98615226Low value women (ugly/broke) will start settling for you in their 30s if you at least try to get dates. Trust the plan.T. lost virginity at 33
>>98616116it's not him because i was referencing the "japanese sushi makers spend 20 years learning how to make tamago" meme you sperg
>>98616026You can't value yourself above all else while valuing something else except as an extension of your self interest.I enjoy spending time with my friends and family and treat them well. I will occasionally do things that benefit my community. But this is not the same as being a "supremacist" about the people around me. I do these things because I want to do them, because I derive some satisfaction from them. I do these things for myself, and not for them.When you start to value "family" as someone obsessed with filial piety or something might, or "nation" as a nationalist might, you inherently place these things above yourself. A nationalist does things for the good of the nation. A "good father" or "good son" does things for the good of the family. They do not do these things for their own self interest. You might argue that acting as a racist nationalist or whatever simply is in your self interest. But even if that were true (it's not), I would not believe in racism or nationalism. I would be doing those things only because they benefit me, and not because they benefit my race or nation. If I am wholly concerned with my own benefit, there is simply room for me to consider how my "race" or "nation" might benefit from this.Obviously. Because if you do not act solely on self interest then you are not maximally self interested by definition.>>98616027>my genetic codemerely a component of me and not me itself>>98616038that's not what I said
>>98616113Fuck it why not, threads is turd circus atm anyway.
>>98616129>Tribal units in times of plenty would go out of their way to breed outside of their communities.That was rape, anon, it was conquest and slavery, and the replacement of the target male population, certainly not jolly multiethnic coexistence.
>>98616137It literally says in the image that its a study from the american psychological association, saar
>>98616145Blogpost.
so close to finishing building all my custodes models bros! I am pretty tired today so I might just finish assembling them and prime but no paint
>>98616145>You can't value yourself above all else while valuing something else except as an extension of your self interest.That fits within what I told you, you're just blind or in denial about it, but egoism leads to tribalism.
>>98616146Get that AI slop out of here
>>98616154Afoid responding to this post, brothers.
>>98616146Why do you never take and post any different pics? Y'know arrange them in some diorama, freshen things up?
>>98616119That's not true, especially when someone people choose to do the opposite.If you like space marines and someone likes chaos space marines, you're not gonna treat them worse than the next guy who plays space marines. There are an infinite numbers of groups you can make/see, are you saying we're enacting bias on all of said groups?>>98616125>less positiveDoesn't mean badly. If my kid asks for an ice cream, I'll get them an ice cream, if some random kid asks for an ice cream, I won't. It's nothing against the kid, it's not even about him.Life's not just about +- and -1, there's also 0, being neutral.You cannot seriously think people are incapable of being neutral and are all always acting on some group related thinking where all actions have to be positive because it's my group, or negative because it's not my group. This is extremely reductive.
>>98616161meant for >>98616146I also meant to say avoid but I was busy trying to drive while posting.I live in my car so it's always a struggle
>>98616146GO AWAY! LEAVE NIGGER! GO! PEOPLE DON'T LIKE YOU!
>>98616148Thats post agrarian, pre agrarian hunter gatherer rape was less common because finding undefended women was harder.
>>98616163>Doesn't mean badly. No, but it still means racist.
>>98616157>I will do X because it benefits meyou are egoist>I will do X because it benefits [not me]you are not egoistan egoist is not a tribalist even if an egoist and a tribalist would act the same in a given situation
>>98616150>americanRuh roh
>>98616171>[not me]it still does that just indirectly, also because doing otherwise hampers you
>>98616154Good work sis
>>98616163>you like space marines and someone likes chaos space marines, you're not gonna treat them worseAh but see the mutant is likely in this conversation and he would treat them worse, because he's a tard who takes his faction too seriously
>>98616111This is where the problems started, and where like 12% of their DNA comes from.
>>98616162I lost all my models when my parents kicked me out. Can't exactly store all my 16l of models in my car.
>>98616173Third worlder melty
>>98616181tnx bb <3
>>98616184Oh damn, rip bozo. Have you tried one of these?
>>98616169>undefendedyeah, because pre agrarian societies would have never overwhelmed another people's defences, right?
>>98616170But that's implying there is a different treatment. In the case of the ice cream, there is, and there is a hierarchy, but you'd have to be crazy to think I shouldn't prioritize my kid and should instead give any random kid some free shit simply because they asked.Again: seeing a difference doesn't mean acting on it. You claim it's automatic, subconscious even, but in practice it's not. I don't treat people worse or better just because they play a different army than me. It's nonsense.
>>98616142No one wants that.>>98615226See a pretty whore and stop falling for the amerigolem psyop to 'settle' with sluts.
>>98616154what's the hurry?
>>98616194Raiding only became big after settlements became a thing
>>98616113here's some of my skittles
I am Brazilian, Black, and of Indigenous descentI am autistic and pansexual; my pronouns are he/himI love all my trans and non-binary friends, and everyone of them who falls anywhere along that spectrum I think black/hip-hop culture is sorely lacking in all fandoms
>>98615898I feel the need to step in, as a professional racist and apologize for the amateurs ITT.People hate chinamen because their culture encourages betrayal and conning people. They're coniving, thieving bugmen who lost their ability to invent 3000 years ago. If you want to pick another east-asian race, I'll be happy to help explain.
>>98616206I wouldn't say hurry, but I would like to play them on the tabletop since they're cool and easy to play
>>98616182But that's not because of the army he plays, I also have some bangles and space wolves, but I don't put people into groups of "who plays what", I don't care what he does or doesn't. Hell, I wouldn't treat him better because he likes warhammer. He's part of "my group", so you think I somehow automatically do? Or is there some higher "group" that overrides it?Are we treating cunts like the cunts they are because they are cunts, or because they're part of the cunt group (not our group)?
>start working on a dude for collage project>realized I missed a downright fugly mouldline>scrape off the paint, primer, and mouldline>pull out airbrush and primer>lower the pressure and prime exactly the part I cleaned up and nothing elseI fucking love my airbrush.
>>98616219You done that Hellblaster yet faggot?
>>98616220Wait until you find out that you didn't even need to reprime a small area like that.
>>98616202You can't settle with sluts. They're sluts. They won't be loyal.
>>98616195>But that's implying there is a different treatment.There is, expand your example to a wider pool of people and I am willing to bet whatever amount you want, that you would find that the more distant the kid asking for the ice cream is to the person, from familial difference to racial difference, the less likely he would be to get a gifted ice cream, even if the chance of ice cream being gifted gets non-linearly low as soon as you leave your family
>>98616209No, it was just that raiding before settlements got big meant that they would only be raided once, because they would be dead/enslaved/raped after one raid.
>>98616194Pre agrarian tribal units were smaller than your average troop of chimpanzees. Inter tribal conflict was a complete crapshoot that could destroy your tribe even if you won so it only happened when their were no options. IE during hard times.Populations only got big enough for conquest to be worth the hassle when farming was invented and people actually had shit worth killing each other over.IE the land to grow more food.
>>98616231No, the graph would go from 1 (in family) to 0 (not family). You have some issues to sort.
>>98616216Ooh ooh do indians next, I hate those guys.
Warhammer 40k?
>>98616228I normally wouldn't have bothered, but the plastic underneath was bright red and I'm painting the dude as a crimson fists.
>>98616248You don't understand how people work then, or maybe you're too demoralised by low trust societies.
>>98616192That’s not me, imbecile
>>98616270Show us your hellblasters. Oh, right, you're a nomodels now. Must be tough having to live out of your car.
>>98616163>when someone people choose to do the oppositeFirst of all, ESLsecond of all, thats what I fucking said lol
>>98616279What’s with you and this story about me living in my car, where did you come up with that?
>>98616242>IE during hard times.or during good times when your people had more men than the surrounding ones.You are doing some weird gymnastics to delude yourself into thinking people weren't violent expansionists.Hell, I would go as far as to argue that one of the main reasons for people to spread out across the world so far and so fast would have been specifically to get away from other groups of people.
>>98616250Pajeets are not East-Asians, as the shitlib has already said, so they're not part of this PSA
>>98616173>babies would never be le hecking bigots, theyre perfect pure little creatures>also I fucking hate AmericansIn warhammer
>>98616283Is this AI?
>>98616266I understand how some people work>>98616282>esl>because "some" got autocompleted as "someone"Bruh>that's what I saidNo, you said it's automatic and you have to override them to not act them, I'm arguing the opposite, that they're learnt/chosen, not the default.The original topic was 40k being sanitized around prejudice, but I see some people tried to use the opportunity to justify their own bad conscious & chosen behavior as "the norm".
>>98616302It’s impossible to even hold a simple conversation with you, fuck off and don’t respond.
>>98616305I didn’t read all that shit, but learned experiences inherently create biasesIf you refuse to acknowledge that basic truth, then any conversation beyond that point is worthlessAlso how do I play cumstodes?
>>98616307Yeah this sounds like grok or somethingAnyway I like the old necron monolith more than the newer one personally
>>98616113
AI hallucinated up this handheld onslaught gatling cannon and now I want one for real
>>98616328Very kino and always with your own unique flair, love it fren.
>>98616334how about you hallucinate a google search?
>>98616319>learnt experienceThat's the thing: you learnt wrong. If we were to watch your life I can bet we'd see thousands if not millions of cases that contradict your biases that you chose to ignore.I don't think most people are nice, but from every single group I've met there were some good and some bad, the conclusion wasn't that one group was better than the other, but that there are twats of all shapes and sizes.Mistreatment of anyone is a conscious, personal choice. The "basic truth" is you just think you're better than whoever to give you a boost, the good old "putting someone down to feel better about yourself", but rather than look at yourself as a pathetic bully, you're rather claim your choices are not just smart, but the culmination of the forces of nature, human evolution born of struggle for survival.>conversation is impossible>also I didn't read that shitBruh 2I'll end the conversation right here.
>You are doing some weird gymnastics to delude yourself into thinking people weren't violent expansionists.I'm talking about actual anthropology and not primeval fantasies. Agrarian society gave people the food and manpower surplus to make war worthwhile. Before the neolithic revolution it genuinely wasn't worth it.People don't risk a life or death fight for fun. They do it because they have to or because they're certain they'll win. Your average human tribe had less than ten healthy, fighting age men and any tribe that got much bigger would outgrow the means to support itself and would be forced to split up. When the numbers are that small victory in a fight between near peers could swing for the stupidest reasons.Any violence between humans pre agriculture was internal or targetted at exiles from other tribes. Two tribes did not fight unless their was no other option.
>>98616347
>>98616347boomers will unquestioningly trust a curated amalgamation of links controlled by a parent company that can be traced back to Epstein Island in like 3 steps but not a tool that approximates the content of those links in shorthand with relative accuracySuch is the weakness of fleshPraise the Omnissiah
>>98616359>the conclusion wasn't that one group was better than the otheryou reached the wrong conclusion then, data across all of the first world speaks for itself
>>98616334>>98616347>>98616363I wish we got more rotor and assault cannons in 40k. Sad that the marine option is locked to HH.
>>98616368I'm not trusting the process, I'm trusting only what I get out of it, if it's worthy.
>>98616368take care followers of the machine god, this Heretek loves abominable intelligence
>>98616284Meant to reply to you here.>>98616359
>has one year to finish one (1) squad of hellblasters >still zero progress>another anon makes a space wolf diorama for the collage>painted to a way higher standard and done from start to finish in one sittingEmbarrassing really.
>>98616359You’re just assuming I’m racist lmaoI’m not arguing in favor of racism I’m just pointing out the inarguable truth that lived experiences inherently create biasesYou can manually choose to try to act against those biases that were built into your neurology, but thats a conscious decisionI think everyone is deserving of a baseline level of respect and decency until they prove otherwise unworthy of it, but I still keep my hand on my piece when I’m in the ghetto because I’m not retardedAnd of course I referring to a hiveworld ghetto in the 40k universe in this hypothetical that we are discussing
>>98616368>admech larp>ai apologist
>>98614015The only store you should buy from is your closest non-Warhammer tabletop games store, to help keep it in business so people have a place to play against randoms.Don't give Amazon your money
>>98616284People were not violent expansionists in the same way that wolves are not violent expansionists. It's simply not a good strategy to start fucking up your neighbors unless you really have no other options.
>>98616361>They do it because they have to or because they're certain they'll win.such as when they have the upper hand in times of plenty, and when plan the violence out well
>>98616389
>>98614033That's what you get for playing chinkslop. Next time play based western vidja gaems
>got back into 40K during 8th edition after taking a few editions off>played through to 9th edition>stopped playing when 10th dropped>realise the single biggest reason for not enjoying it any more was because I only played against a single friend who only ever built competitive lists when I wanted to play fluffy narrative gamesis 11th worth getting into if I can find a group to play Crusade with or something?
>>98616381more like based intelligence>>98616392more like based enthusiast>>98616389The collage is looking good boys
>>98616395People aren't wolves, but those are also aggressive https://wolf.org/wolf-info/battles-between-wolf-packs/
>>98616407In general tabletop games, and any activity really, are fun with a good group of people who have fun in a similar way to youIf you find a group of people you vibe with who want to do something similar to what you want to do, you’ll have a good time
Thinking about poking my toes back into 40k with a new Votann army. Worth it? Kicking myself in the ass for not buying two of the Maelstrom boxes with 6x Steeljacks and bikes while they were cheap.
>>98616413
>>98616334>>98616417This looks like shit
anon is right, human warfare only really appears after sedentismbefore then we only have evidence of random instances of violence and not one group deliberately attacking another
>>98616422pyw
>>98616420Stay the fuck away from the thread, you low life sperg.
>>98616427you first
>>98616428You’re an asshole
>>98616396Brother. In times of "plenty", what is the point in risking death?What are you fighting over? Its not land because your nomadic, its not religion because that doesn't exist yet. The other tribe doesn't have any resources you don't already have. What do you even get for winning?
>>98616424>evidencebecause they didn't leave anything behind
>>98616430I already did thoughI want to compare yours to mine and see which one looks betterYour technical skill can beat these images I’m assuming?
>>98616420Hellblasters?
>>98616433We got rid of those stinky freaks who don’t look like usFilthy xenos
>>98616433>what is the point in risking death?getting more, removing threatspeople have always done that, because the plenty in the time of plenty doesn't last long
>>98616216>>98616286based professionally ranked racist
>>98616334GREENED.com
>>98616438They did leave their bones behind, retard.
>>98615173>>98615182>>98615195>>98615217>>98615231Thanks for posting these, Anon. I am on the fence buying into Votann and making /mydudes/ based on my WHFB army.
>>98616432meant for >>98616420
>>98616455Not if I crush their bones with my big hammer
>>98616455because you always find all the bones, right? especially when it comes to small social groups that died in places where fossilisation doesn't happen
>>98616448>getting moreMore what?>removing threatsYou'll never see those people again. You have no neighbours because your both nomadic tribes of less than 30 people.Without farms and consistent, reliable sources of food it's just not possible to war. Random killing of individuals yes. War no.
>>98616471More dead xenosThe planet belongs to us
those xenos? yeah i fucked themi fucked them all
>>98616469>fossilisationretard alertI thought they taught anthropology in schools, guess not
Its kind of crazy that decal has a tattoo of a primaris helmet on the tip of his cockIdk why anyone would do thatI mean I like 40k as much as the next guy but thats pretty crazy
Is there a repository of OOP metal miniatures and dates they were released? I have these old Plague Marines I'm trying to ID. I don't think they're RT but I also don't recall them from 2nd.
>>98616484anthropology didnt even exist until after bones were invented so idk what youre even talking about at this point honestlyDeldar refresh when?
>>98616471>You'll never see those people again.Yes, you will, their world wasn't that big, the good resources moved together, the best lands were the same.Random killings of individuals can easily destroy tribes of less than 30 people and then leave them for grabs by an easy raids.Not all fossil records were of simple 1-on-1 violence, people did kill each other, entire other hominid species were extinguished and you can bet your ass they weren't the ones creating big settlements or squatting on cultivated lands.Don't be disingenuous.
>>98616485His idea is that if he runs into a femboy that says "fuck primaris," he sends said femboy a dick pic.
>>98616479Orks don't have holes.
>>98616489>>98616490>archaeologists are all wrong>my source? It totally happened bro you just can't find the evidence but it totally happened
>>98616484if they aren't in good conditions to fossilise they're not in good conditions to last much either
>>98616501>>archaeologists are all wrongarcheologists are not saying that humans never slaughtered each other before agriculture
>>98616501Can you even prove any of this stuff even happened?>>98616487Metal minis are so cool
>>98616487Looks like 2nd edition. I think the best place to look is stuff of legends. It has most of the old catalouges.
>>98616487https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Miniatures:_Death_Guard#Rogue_Trader_.281987-1993.291994 plague marines
>>98616497They shit
>>98616490>Not all fossil records were of simple 1-on-1 violence, people did kill each other, entire other hominid species were extinguished and you can bet your ass they weren't the ones creating big settlements or squatting on cultivated lands.Yes, Agrarian societies murdered and oppressed hunter gathers all the time, thats well documented. Because it was easy. Because they didn't need to work as hard for their food. Because they didn't need their entire tribe hunting or gathering just to survive. Because they could afford the division of labour.Hunter gatherers had none of those advantages.
>>98616487>>986164872nd ed. 1994https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Miniatures:_Death_Guard
>>98616520They don't wipe.
>>98616509>I will now try to strawman and deflectgoogle is free bro
>>98616492>>98616485Dude you’re so cringe it’s crazy
>>98616514Well shit, there they are. Thanks! Looks like I started late enough into 2nd that I missed ever seeing these Plague Marines. Shame one is missing his sword, but it's still cool to have them.
How will we ever recover the reputation of the space wolves? I feel bad for normal space wolf players who don't live in their car.
>>98616509No, but they are saying there is no evidence of sustained inter tribal conflict. Just random acts of murder against exiles or individual outsiders.No tribe that made a habit of warring against other tribes consistently would last very long.
>>98616529I'm not ragging on how much you like femboys, I just had a funny way to bounce off of anon's post.
>>98616520>>98616526I think they don't shit because they only get bigger and when they die they basically 'void their bowels' by pumping out spores when they croak.
>>98616529Im just impressed by how much you like Primaris
>>98616529You know what's cringe? Going from 197 bans to 214 in a single 12 hour periodLOL
>>98616538This is the thinking man's topic too smart for this thread.
lmao at the random Reiver mask. The things it decides to add
>>98616469>because you always find all the bones, right?cool it with the antisemitic remarks
pre agricultural societies simply have nothing of worth to defendif you are getting muscled out of a particular hunting territory by a superior force, it's better to just fuck off instead of fighting and dying
>>98616521>Because it was easy. Because they didn't need to work as hard for their food.Then you don't see your hypocrisy?You said that when people have plenty they don't have reason to attack others, yet you're saying that agrarian societies had plenty and that was reason to attack others.While completely dismissing the possibility that some pre-agrarian groups might have been in fortunate positions to attack others because it might have been easy for them, as if they could have never lucked out and grown more than their neighbours, ever, at any point, enough to attack them.
>>98616532From what I've gathered the other SW posters in this general are pretty normal. We all know they're separate from the one bad apple, so the bunch hasn't been spoiled.
>>98616553>pre agricultural societiesI would say it is a stretch to even call them a society at the hunter-gatherer stage still.
>>98616532We’re the second most played chapter and beloved by the majority of people involved with Warhammer, I think we’ll be okay bud. I’d worry about starting your first army paintlet.
If I ever saw a space wolves player IRL I would fuck them up
>>98616527Then use it, tell me who are the archeologists saying pre-agrarian societies never had anything even remotely resembling a raid.>>98616534>sustainedbecause one attack was enough to destroy the other>a habit of warring against other tribes consistentlyso you accept that it would have happened, but are building a strawman about the frequency
I could HEEM everyone in this thread
>>98616562You’re the humanoid version of a cellar spider anon, just go sit down.
>>98616562chill out magnus it was just a prank, a funny prank
>>98616565>spoonfeed mehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_warfare
>>98616561>PaintletBig words from a guy who hasn't posted a new image of his sloppa in a year or more. But fine, I'll bite. What do you want to see? I have many armies. I can show you Imperial, chaos or xeno stuff, whatever you'd like.
>>98616589>I have many armiesBut do you have 16 liters of points?
Just got done jerking it to femboys. Not sure if I should jerk more or watch 40k lore shorts
god this general is hot dogshitwhy are you all like this
>>98616593I mean maybe? I probably have more than him.
>>98616554Pre agriculture, a time of plenty meant no one was starving.Growing more people was a bad thing. Those men were children once who couldn't hunt and gather and support themselves.Tribes couldn't grow much bigger than the natural ceiling because having more children meant more mouths to feed. This is why tribes split up. Insular, aggressive tribes went extinct while more social tribes survived.Then the neolithic revolution made it possible to stockpile enough food to make aggression possible long term and since farms couldn't move we had a way to tangibly benefit from mass murder.Before agriculture. Murders were 10 on 1 jumpings both internally and externally. A full blown fight between tribes was literally never worth it. This is not an opinon. Its the fucking general concensus.
>>98616596Why is shit like this not getting deleted immediately?
>>98616579Have you actually read that? or just assumed it painted the picture you wished it was painting? Because it's certainly not as straightforward as you make it out to be.
>>98616509Didn't that moid existinction event happen RIGHT at the dawn of agriculture?
>>98616602Jannies have given up. Just look at the puckee and bumpfag threads on this board. I don't know what we pay them for.
>>98616601>Those men were children once who couldn't hunt and gather and support themselves.and now they're men you can use to gang up on others to kill them, take their hunting grounds, and the food to feed more mouths.Jesus, you're dumb.
>>98616602What should I do? Jerk it to failed males again or watch 40k lore shorts?
>>98616598actually, compared to most other generals on this site, it's remarkable on-topic and engaging conversation
>>98616623And risk getting diminished returns after half your males get killed in the attempt? Not happening.
>>98616623You can only cover so much ground without splitting into multiple tribes, retard.
>>98616638lil bro said nah I need those males ;)
>>98616638>And risk getting diminished returns after half your males get killed in the attempt?Skill issue
>>98616565>Raymond C. Kelly believes that this period of "Paleolithic warlessness" persisted until well after the appearance of Homo sapiens some 315,000 years ago, ending only at the occurrence of economic and social shifts associated with sedentism, when new conditions incentivized organized raiding of settlements.>Kissel et al. argue that while the general scarcity of evidence from the period suggests warfare may not have been common, it does not support the hypothesis that war was absent.War didn't happen often enough to leave any evidence. We can't prove two tribes ever went to war at all. Though we can prove humans did kill each other there was no culture that venerated killing because no cave painting has ever been found depicting humans killing humans.
40kg? More like 400kg!
Combat patrols that are "temporarily out of stock"Grey Knights: Contains the Venerable Dreadnought (put to legends but strangely wasn't last chance to buy)Death Guard: Contains the Rhino (wasn't put to legends but was last chance to buy)Dark Angels: Contains the old IntercessorsTau: All models still going to be madeI think only the Tau one is the only one actually "temporarily out of stock".
>>98616643>You can only cover so much groundAnd that's enough to gang up on the others, or maintain better relations with your related tribes to gang on the less related ones.We circle back to racism cropping up again and again.
>>98616209>>98616242Pacific north west was entirely based on small groups raiding each other. They traded and raided and partied a lot and had very little agrarian capacity.
Make a new thred idiots
>>98616657nigger they were all relatedwe're talking about people who lived like 20 miles from eachother
>>98616651I wish I had a 40kg trans gf to pump my seed in
>>98616657>And that's enough to gang up on the others.Its literally not, human population density back then was absurdly low and there was no concept of a related tribe.You were either in the tribe or not.
>>98616650except the cave paintings mentioned or showcased in the article
>>98616665Some more than other, everyone in Italy is inbred and yet they hate each others' guts and maintain strong familial ties and longer feuds.
>>98616651We're 40.000BC now
>>98616660little isn't none retard. Sendentary behaviour creates a reason for violence. Paleolothic man was entirely nomadic.
where's the new thread, I have some very important images to post
>>98616662Nah nigga. I’m busy. You do it
>>98616679Bronze virgins can never understand the freedom of Fur Chads.
>>98616666you would have to be like 4ft tall to be that light
>>98616688youre not gonna like it if I do it
>>98616685>Paleolothic man was entirely nomadic.except it circled around the same territories and had disputes for them
>>98616668There isn't one. There are pictures of dead humans killed by human weapons but there are no direct depictions of humans fighting. Theres a meaningful fucking difference.
>>98616598Could be worse>>98589370
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>>98616705Disputes which only ended in chest beating and individual killings and there is no material evidence of anything more than that until after agriculture was invented.Because there is no evidence of war until after agriculture.Which is the original point you're refusing to acknowledge.
>>98616650>there was no culture that venerated killingdid you miss the Aztec paintings of human sacrifice, or...?
>>98616706Except the even the article doesn't rule out that some of the paintings might have represented "war".You're choosing to ignore what's possible because you've decided to die on the hill that humans couldn't have possibly killed more than one guy at a time for over hundred thousands of years.
>>98616724??? bro the aztecs had farming
>>98616723>and individual killingsor multiple killings, which doom a tribe because it's small, which make it easy for grabs.but yeah, sure, war never happened because you never found out the diary of palaeolithic sun tzu.
>>98616724Thats after the invention of agriculture.
>>98616743Prove the killings are related.>p-prove they aren'tYour claim. Your proof.
>>98616753You're not arguing that some killings aren't related, you are arguing that killings could NEVER be related, that's a much more absurd point.
Boss, where's the new grot thread to kick?
>>98616773I'm arguing that theres no archaeological evidence of warfare pre agriculture.Because there is no archaeological evidence of warfare pre agriculture.Theres also no artistic depictions of large numbers of humans fighting pre-agriculture.Your argument is that just because we have no evidence something happened thst doesn't mean it didn't happen.You might as well be talking about fairies.
>>98614243What show ?
>>98614128>biological male in the sororitasCall the Ordo Hereticus for that's a violation of the Decree Passive
>>98616790Australian Aboriginals and uncontacted people have been recorded engaging in warfareThere are some archaeological proofs it might have happened before the agricultural revolution as well
>>98615992tranny
>>98616368>boomersOut of touch zoomoid. Heaps of the younger gens hate AI because it's being shoved down people's throats, they're watching their friends go stupid over relying on it for the littlest things, and to top it all off it's terrible for our environment. It's certainly not just boomers who don't use it
>>98617240>proof of pre-agriculture warfare.Lets see it then.
>>98616621Puckee is actually mod protected, puckee's full reddit username is censored on /tg/ (try typing "puckee-21" without the dash on any post) and people have been banned for pointing out puckee spam
So hows things look for tau if I only gave a shit about pathfinders, stealth suits, drones, and a few crisis suits for problem solving things that don't feel like dying to 6 rail rifles or 15 burst cannons. I assume if anything gets to grips with me I instantly implode, as is tradition? Without digging my minis out of storage to confirm, memory says I have probably just shy of 1000pts.I am gonna be salty that tactical drone squads appear to not be a thing now, because I have so many drones and I liked them. I'm not gonna claim they ever seemed particularly good. But I've got like 60 of the fuckers.
>>98616685They had war cannoess and tribal grudges that persist to this day. It was not little.
