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daily reminder leman russ sucks big red wolf dicks.
>>98621703How? It's a tank?
Reminder that buying space marines is a bad decision. You just bought a subscription army that you will constantly need to add new stuff to. Versus if you buy the smaller imperial factions or non CSM Chaos units or Xenos units, your units will stay valid for much longer.If I had bought a Space Marines army when I started during 7th edition, that entire army would be in Legends now.
>>98621705its got a mouth doesn’t it?
>>98621709they don’t call them marinepiggies for nothing anon.
>It's another "opponent gets mad his turn 2 full send into trash and units that did their job gets shot off the board by the end of turn 4" game
>>98621705>How? It's a tank?A red rocket is a red rocket
>>98621703>TQ Leman Russ Ragnar Blackmane Logan Grimnar Njal StormcallerArjac Rockfist Ulrik the Slayer Bjorn the Fell handed Commander Dante Mephiston Lemartes
>[muffled linkin park music]
>>98621709>non CSM Chaos units
>>98621722permanent means permanent
>>98621722the blood angels might have enough mary sue powers to save you, but the rest will job to the worf effect and leave you defenseless.
>>98621723I would understand the raven guard more if their gimmick was coordination with non-astartes operators like scions and other stormtroopers, on top of the bird trinkets and tacticool garb.
>>98621705
>>98621672I think for these kind of conversations we need to separate an edition's core rules and an edition's codexes.
>>98621723
>>98621709>that entire army would be in Legends now.They didn't even have the decency of making legends rules for tacticals and devastators. Seriously I don't get why they have so much contempt to the most iconic space marine unit and also their best selling kit in history. You'd think they'd want to milk it but no they'd rather replace it and pretend it never existed.
>>98621709Meh, as long as you aren’t buying direct form GW and use the secondary market it’s not that bad. It sucks seeing stuff go away every few years but that’s just kinda how things work now. It’s like planned obsolescence in other industries. Gotta make number go up, best way to do that is a literally endless churn of new shit and making the old stuff not work as well.
>>98621729I mean Thousand Sons and Death Guard get like 1 new unit per edition. While CSM gets like 6 new units per edition. And Chaos Knights only got 1 new unit in 10th as well. And Chaos Daemons haven't gotten any new models since 9th.
>>98621751Yeah like they gave us new intercessors this edition. Why they didn't instead give us a new Tactical Marine? Maybe Armageddon sets would have actually sold if they gave us new Tactical Marines.
>>98621696>>Thread Question:>You're an inquisitor, pick 10 models to be your squad of agents
>>98621735Mephiston tore a Carnifex in half with his bare hands, they’ll be fine.
Which deldar models are safe from getting refreshed/legendsed/squatted? I want to slowly get into the army but it'll take me a while.
>>98621771everyone does that in SM2, it's the stock standard execution animation
>>98621721How'd you get the side sponsons?
>>98620758Youre gonna do the dying part anyway, paint that army so they can guard your corpse on your way to the afterlife
>>98621746>raven guard raptors get to be models>they're wulfen levels of complete disappointments and shitty sculptsI have no confidence in GW's ability to make loyalist mutant space marines.
>>98621709ok boomer
>>98621751>Seriously I don't get why they have so much contempt to the most iconic space marine unit and also their best selling kit in history.They hate intercessors?
>>98621772>refreshedAll the models released in 10th (new Mandrakes, new Archon and Malys), Lelith most likely, Drazhar and Incubis as well>legendsed/SquattedYour standard Wyches, Scourges Kabalites obviously. Most likely the Raiders, Ravagers and Venoms.Rest is probably in danger to be sent to legends
>>98621709>>98621751>>98621763GW EXPLICITLY TOLD YOU TO PROXY THEM AS INTERCESSORS
What happened to that Q&A that was supposed to be today?
>>98621696>Teaching a friend 40k with his first game>Has CSM & Nids >'Hey you should bring Nids because I play them and have basically memorized their data sheets so it'll be super easy to play'>He brings the CSM>Game spirals because idk what half his shit does so we keep having to check it>Also didn't understand how to kit out units>Have no fucking clue what he can/can't take so keep having to scroll through the laundry list of CSM wargear to figure out what he MIGHT'VE reasonably taken and letting him use them so he's just not miserable using basic bolters & chainswords>Call it quits because turn 4 hours in we're on turn 2Idk what it is, but I feel like I have this super power in 40k where I tell people something to prevent the worst case scenario from happening, then they do the complete opposite like I was trying to trick them or something, and then the worst case scenario does indeed happen and makes is both miserable. Because this is like the third time I've had a situation like this happen to me.
>>98621793They are "Legendary Proxies" meaning they have the same restrictions as legends units without having even their own rules. And just like barely anyone allows you to play legends units even in casual games, these units will have the same thing happen to them.
>>98621798It's at 7pm (50 minutes).
>>98621798they didn’t get any easy questions, so they had to postpone ):
>>98621772mandrakes, incubi, drazhar, lelith, malys, and the new archon, are the latest things, so the safest; kabalites are rumoured to get replaced, but aside from that we don't know what's going to happen.I'd say the normal boats and the vyper are safe too, as would be the pain engine.but if I were you I'd get some kind of bundled box that contains a few of the basic units, even if they get replaced the current ones are a treasure of bits and will give you some cheaper and varied bodies whatever happens because they will end up being very compatible with your current purchases aesthetically.In any case their range update isn't far, one year at most, and the things most at risk that wouldn't get a replacement are the flyers.
>>98621793Yeah and guess what? Intercessors are not tacticals. The unit lacks what defined tactical squads. That's my point.
>>98621803That's a people you play with issue.
>>98621813Go bitch in another thread you useless fucking twat.
>>98621822It's a removing the quintessential unit of the army that's been a staple for decades issue.
Should I give all my Battle Sisters Cruella hair color? I did it to one unit and think it would look pretty cool for all of them.
>>98621833You need to touch some grass.
>>98621835Go for it.
>tfw when all you ever wanted to do in this hobby was eat a plate of fully painted plastic tactical marines.
>>98621723Okay noShrike listens to Linkin Park. Shaan listens to Christian Death
>>98621835Only character models should have access to two bottles of hair dye.
>>98621799a fellow cassandra
>>98621799Do a small game with simple units to go over what they do? How the fuck did you even start playing it if they don't understand the rules? What the fuck? Your super power is being retarded. >bring both armies designed to demonstrate rules>smaller points values >go over army lists >play game >switch sides
>>98621772Yellow is danger zone. Green is safe. Red is already gone.
>>98621799he has 2 armies and doesn't know any basic rules?
>>98621834>Hur dur I can't conceivably proxy tacticals as intercessors even after GW retcons intercessors to just be tacticals with mouth grills 2026 edition
>>98621867god, the Talos still looks amazing after all this time
>>98621789what if it was literally one velociraptor in power armor with a gun that gets attached to a normal unit?
I wish I could just pay the Wahapedia guy to make a 3rd edition section.
>>98621709>that you will constantly need to add new stuff toI'm not required to buy everything GW makes.
>>98621867Hand of the Archon is no longer available and needs to be updated to red.
>>98621867You can't possibly put all the yellow on the same level.
>>98621887This would have gone hard in the 80s.
>>98621867Put Hand of the Arcon in red - it's gone from the store and confirmed to be squatted
>>98621894They've already replaced a 7th edition model for DE (Archon). Nothing from that age or older is safe.
>>98621894The Wych, Kabalite, Wrack, Venom, Raider, and Ravager kits are all interlinked. The wrack kit comes with pilots/gunners for the vehicles. All the limbs are interchangeable and you can replace any of the gunners/pilots with the other kit's equivalent seamlessly.GW fucking up the scaling on one of the kits would be a fucking stupid idea.But it's GW who the fuck knows. They probably don't even remember how based those kits are. Fucking 9/10 model line by the way. Wish they still did kits like that.
>>98621696>tqassuming I have to pick dudes that could theoretically be assigned to work with/under a rogue trader for some reason (meaning no primarchs, no chaos, no chapter masters or anyone that is busy doing other shit):Eldrad (he's still exiled and left the ynnari so he's not busy)Mephiston (I can borrow him it's fine)Solitaire Drazhar (he's a mercenary)Vindicare AssassinCulexus AssassinCallidus AssassinCustodes Shield Captain (custodes can retire and fuck off to do whatever they want basically)Custodes Blade Champion Memnyr Strategist
Time to watch another Warhammer lore vid but no jerking it to femboys today. I coomed too much yesterday
tell me about /yourdudes/, specifically who they have beef with and why. trying to come up with better lore for /mydudes/ thats more than just "we hate marines because they slighted use once".
>>98621867I h(c)ope that when deldars get some new stuff gw would bring back old/new mercenary aliens for them, always felt like it was nice flavour.
>>986218893rd/4th have the most easy to find rule/codex PDFs on PDFcoffee and internet archive
>>98621905Replacing a monobuild character model is not the same as replacing a multipart vehicle or monster or niche unit, come on.
>>98621799>then they do the complete opposite like I was trying to trick them or somethingI know a couple of people like this, it's even more baffling when they specifically ask you for help and then ignore it.
>>98621696>TQ5 Emperor class titans.And five exterminatus fleet commanders.Gonna pull a giga-Kryptman and have the Tyranid fleets go to Fenris system.Why was the Kill Team alternative wargame taken off the OP, OP? I am probably one of the five people that is curious about the alternative rules.How long did it take us to update the OP when the third party pastebin link kept getting messed up/updating it when many shops went down?
>>98621887At that point it'd be more kino to make it a xenos army, or at least a tau auxiliary.
>>98621871>even after GW retcons intercessors to just be tacticals with mouth grills 2026 editionWhere are the special and heavy weapons for intercessors then?
>>98621939My chapter is autistic about warfare and martial prowess, so they have a hateboner for night lords and alpha legion. Don't know how much that lore will stick around, because I'm gonna make the chapter turn renegade.
>>98621945Do you really think that availability of PDFs is my problem or have you not thought even for a second before posting?
>>98621759>>98621709>actually its a good thing to play Thousand Sons where half your units are from fantasy and you never get army updates
cant you just repaint the legends marines in a custom livery and just say we’re pretending like theyre the new ones? who would give a fuck outside of tournament play if you did that
>>98621972it just wouldn't be the same
>>98621998If my models aren't valid for tournaments I will never play in what's the point? GW have fucked all us 40 year old men who haven't bought a model in 10 years. Expect them to go bankrupt soon, their actual customers won't accept this insult to me.
>>98621991It's a consequence of trying to make the mono-god legions distinct from csm
>>98622018>death guard get 60 unique unitsits a consequence of thousand sons not having a champion in the design studio
total gue domestication
I like orks :D
>>98621948Normally I would say the same, but the vehicles are rumored to be what is getting replaced so who the fuck knows what GW is thinking.
Play at a local game store tonight. Get an airbrush. Have a painting session at 4 o'clock in a mostly empty Warhammer store. Go to a tournament in a place you've never been. Build an army you think may have nothing in common with you. Order the online exclusives. Buy a new acrylic. Customize a base. Customize two. Be open to a new army where you may not understand or agree with the ruleset, but build them anyways. Paint slowly. Drill your barrels. Check in on ebay. Check in on marketplace. Enjoy the hobby
>>98621939/mydudes/ have a long running feud with a Dark Eldar Cabal after the deorbited a Deldar ship onto the webway gate they were using to launch raids. In the millenia since, the Kabal of the Obsidian Serpent have been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of marines and the loss of 6 different captains. The chapter also has a personal hateboner for a Slaaneshi cult known as the Veiled Exultation. The ‘Xulties suckered the chapter into a full strength drop onto a subsector capital city only to summon a Keeper of Secrets and cause a localized warp storm that decimated the chapter and left them severely weakened before the opening of the Great Rift. Though the Keeper did get banished at the cost of the chapter master and his honour guard’s lives. The only reason they’re still a player in the sector is some Primaris reinforcments they received from a Torchbearer fleet.Lastly one of the current captains has a personal beef with the Phaeron of a nearby Necron dynasty because the phaeron has beaten him thrice in combat, the last time with his bare hands, but refuses to kill the captain because he enjoys their meetings.
>>98622043This but unironically.
>>98621982Their assholes.
>>98622043I work tonight I can't game...I did yesterday and it was fun shooting world eaters off the board with my tauNeed to work on my wardogs though, two left for 2K points
>>98621998>>98622017it's 7th edition all over again>my chaos space marines are counts-as space marines because they only recently turned renegade>my orks are counts-as space marines because they are blood axes imitating space marine behavior, complete with "da book o' fightan' propa">my tyranids are count-as space marines because they have consumed so much space marine biomass that they are genetically compelled to follow the codex astartesand now>my space marines are counts-as space marines because top lel
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/fll1wajw/warhammer-40000-qa-your-space-marines-questions-answered/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma--wh6Ayo8Someone else can watch it and summarize it, I ain't sitting through these retards wafflingOr I could just wait for Auspex to have his slideshow up like 20 minutes after it's finished I guess
Deathwatch 1dp detachment for Space Marines.
>>98622017>Why doesn't GW cater to me, someone who doesn't buy anything from GW?
>>98622071>he didnt use trivago
my eldar count as space marines because space marines are eldar but better now
>>98622080Eldar guardians have more weapon options than marines now.
Most of the questions so far have been asking things already explained in the original community post.
>>98622067>TLDR: Sisters aren’t a real army
Holy shit all these non-answers. GW you piece of shit
>>98622030The only good orc clans.
>>98622100>What's happening with eldar/custodes/mydues>This is about Space Marines you dipshits
oh thats nice just gonna have to get gaped by astarte cock until your armies codex drops and updates their stats to match lol
>>98622109eh, if the stat increases come with point increases then you're not outright disadvantaged
Did no one ask any questions about Space Marines?
>>98621713I read mouth as "month."GW might do a retcon and make the Rogal Dorn tank the main tank and the Leman russ rolls into legends. But I think it would be better if they just revamped it like the Leman Russ got back in HH.
>>98622109hopefully marines get super expensive to where they can field like 2 less units, so that might be somethingLike my current tau list is 14 units total, marines might be sub 10 (My 2x defiler list is 11 for example)
Thank goodness space marine players have finally been killed.
>>98622123It'll only be the tacticus and probably terminators that actually go up in points. Vehicles will stay the same, and phobos Infiltrators look worse than current and should go down.
>>98622109You’re just going to have to accept being bad touched by marines and orks until you get a codex.
>>98622109Whomst?
>>98622118what kind of insane questions do you think would come from /40kg/?>whats with the NIG space marines?>you said in a community article that firstborn and primaris can wear terminator suits but do the new models depict firstborn or primaris wearing the terminator suits?>when are we getting unique salamander units?
>>98622030'Es roit behind me, innt 'e?
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98622122I can already see how things will play out if the Leman Russ gets squatted with no updates.Guard players will be upset. Anons will do their Steel Legion thing of pretending to be retarded and bleating GW's excuses and projecting.
>>98622139I asked why they hate tactical squads. I wanna know why boyz can get a fucking awesome update and tacticals just get removed from the game.
Rhinos still capacity 12 for primaris. Fucking stupid.
>>98622154They just want the basic space marine infantry unit to be a nice copyrightable name
>>98622114i was always thinking that it's be really really easy to play against marines with armywide +1 to wound me and -1 to be wounded if they had 1 less squad
>>98622067Space marine changes are happeningNon space marine changes aren't happening yetIf you dont play space marines or one of their subsidiaries get fuckedBuy space marinesThe end I'm not joking that's the entire Q&A
>>98622155Isn't that a good thing?
>that was it
>>98622167No because uhhh uhm uhhhhhBitch
>That's it
>>98622167Nah, they're literally half the size of the other 12 model transport in the army. Smaller than the 7 capacity one. It's weird and borderline cheating to hide so many marines in a deck of cards.
They didn't even answer any of the questions they brought up during the video announcing the Q&A. What was the fucking point of this?
Thanks for all the shit questions, guys. Really helpful to know that you didn't read the article before writing in.
>>98622175They're listening to the community!
>>98622173So you just want to bitch then. Got it.
>THAT. WAS. IT.
>>98622175humiliation ritual
that FAQ was a complete nothingburger lol
What an excellent use of company resources that was
>>98622177I certainly loved how they answered the same question 5 times with the faction swapped out.
FUCKING.NOTHING.BURGERHOLY SHITAt least they confirmed Rhino capacity still 12 for primaris
>>98621696What's the best xenos faction and why is it the space dwarves?(release more models, James)
>>98622148>he posted it again.>Delay it again, Kevin Roundtree>release more space marines>I don't care if the Dark Eldar refresh is ready>If you release it without my permission it will not look like an accident>you cannot hide from us
>>98622132>phobos Infiltrators look worse than current and should go down.>erm, ahcktually moving faster than Eldar is worseThe absolute delusion of marineoinkers knows no bounds
Is 4th edition good enough on its own or will I have to supplement with other midhammer editions as well? My plan was to use 4th edition core rules and supplements but stick with 3/3.5 edition codexes.
>>98622227>My plan was to use 4th edition core rules and supplements but stick with 3/3.5 edition codexes.and do what?
>>98622161Unit names aren't trademarked so that's irrelevant and changing the name doesn't require changing how the unit works.
if sisters aren't an army then what do you do with their plastic kits? Strap them to some vehicles like some ork trukk using a sister as a banner?
>>98622231Play games with my wife and my gaming buddies.
>>98622225And also have the ability to auto delete any T:3 chapter in 1 activation and completely neuter units because of 11th character buff mechanics.
>>98622196This. Give me my mech, James Workshop.
>>986222258" move is nothing special, phobos have plenty of mobility track with the LT and detachments. They've lost the 12" deep strike denial bubble which was the only thing people took them for, and why they cost 110 points currently. CP generation gone as well. 6+ FNP replaced with D3 healing. It's a big downgrade despite the better bolt carbines.
>>98622167Yes, it's what rhinos are supposed to be like.>>98622173This has always been true. Every single vehicle in the game is smaller than it should be so that they are actually playable. Or do you think trukks are supposed to fit 12 dudes on the back when physically there's room for about 3? Why is this suddenly only a problem for marines that requires to ruin how the unit works?
>>98622067>welcome to the 11th edition space marine Q&A, we have time for 10 questions so let's get right into this!>Will Sisters get changes?No>Will Tyranids get changes?No>Will MY space marines get changes?Yes>Will the order of the bloody rose get changes?No>Will eldar feet changes?No>How do I shoot combi weapons?You choose a profile to shoot and shoot it>Will space wolves get changes?Yes>Will dark Eldar get changesNo>Will CSM get changesYes>Will Astra Militarum get changes?No>And that's all the time we have for today, tune in next week for more exciting news about space marines!There
>>98622237Using them for hobby parts sounds more fun then playing them into what’s coming
Odds they do an ork battle force this year?Hopes/expectations on what it might have?
>>98622270HighArmageddon contents + Nazdreg
>>98622259All vehicles are too small, but now we have an enclosed transport that carries 12 that is smaller than the open top that carries 7. It looks especially retarded.
>>98622270jfc how many different bundle boxes do Orks really need this year?
>>98622274The inpulsor only carries 7 because when they tried to add an 8th guy he fell off the back
>>98622274This has always been true.
>>98622277I would like one with the missing weapons I need for my boyz.
That small pause during the Grey Knights question gave me more hope that I didn't know I had for the faction to get something than I've had in 10 years. Maybe we might actually get something, but I still can't help but feel like the last kid to get picked in gym class.
>>98622280>>98622274Why dont they just make the transports bigger and have the official board size reflect that? Didnt the playing surface use to be 4 x 8 or something crazy like that?
>>98622288Because standard living room tables are not that fucking big and I wouldn't be able to fit that monstruosity in my house.
>>98622238Then it's good enough, just patch it with home rules when you find something that doesn't work or would be more fun
>space marine Q&AThe fuckers really are on damage control, huh?
>>98621746>pedo artist
>>98622288Well they could make marines more elite to suit the larger models and base sizes, so you don't need cheap 12 marine transports any more. Bit crazy but maybe they've considered it...I'd be embarrassed to put 12 sisters in a rhino desu.
>>98622297They are paying homage to their bread and butter, the main characters of the story.
>>98622300>Fork found in kitchen
>>98622297Well they did a shitty job then.
We are 40k.We dont need GW, they need us. Send GW to legends.
>>98622155>>98622173they are clearly about to make a new rhino model
>>98622326For chaos, maybe.
>>98622288Is not a problem unique to 40k the wonky scale of vehicles.Historicals have the same issue.Usually the issue comes from troops using some version of heroic scale and as a result they always end looking strange next to a correctly scale vehicle. Since no one makes heroic scale vehicles not even in fantasy stuff.
>>9862232610 years late and probably with an entire edition of no predators or vindicators but at least they are not treating them like tacticals and devastators.
>>98622317>We are 40k.>We dont need GW, they need us.no anon, 40k is the the one that needs GW to even tell them how and where to place terrain on the board
>>98622297They are but they’re really showing this should’ve been an index edition
>>98622294If you can manage a 60"x44" table, you can also manage a 72"x48". Fucking hobbilets need to be gatekept harder.
>>98622280>>98622288At the scale 40k is supposed to be, tanks would make little sense, and flyers even less. Real tanks, and even modern infantry rifles for that matter, have effective ranges that are far too large to be accurately reflected on a 28mm tabletop. It's an abstraction for the sake of gameplay and to have cool model kits.
>Will this specific thing get buffed>Well, urm, you see, there is a lot of things, and I can't cover them all, but what I can say is some of the things will change, and you'll have to wait and see.What the fuck is wrong with these people? What the fuck is the point of a Q&A if your "answer" is>There is no answer, just wait for the answerWHO THE FUCK GREENLIT THIS??
>>98622349I actually can't manage it because most living room tables are 180x90cm while 6x4 are 180x120. I make due with an extension for the width but adding a whole ass extra table extension to the side just doesn't fit.
>>98622351Tanks are not only used on flat steppes my dude.
>>98621746
>>98622351If you arent applying the BFG method of "the models are abstract representations, the actual ships are in the flight stand" then YNGMI
>>98621746>everyone else got cool wings and all I got was this fucking jew nose
>>98622349You're blowing GW prices on bits of plastic and you can't afford to purchase and store a folding table? Doesn't really seem to track.
>>98622212It'd be funny if this was real. The mental image of of some GW grunt who is contractually obligated to browse /40kg/ and report to the CEO of the happenings just sounds stupid but hilarious.
>>98622397The problem isn't buying a folding table, is having a room big enough for it to fit.
>>98622363Anon in my third world country we simply use something like picture related.Some supports and a plank of wood. For easier storage we used 3 planks of 2'x'4 and clip them in place with some binder clips.Some board had terrain build it other simply had a mat thrown on top.
>>98622417Again, the issue isn't the table itself it's that it doesn't fit inside a tiny flat's living room. Wish I had space for it.
>>98622417This kind of tables in case you wonder.
>>98622055>>my tyranids are count-as space marines because they have consumed so much space marine biomass that they are genetically compelled to follow the codex astartes>guilliman's book autism is so strong that it has spread to marine chapters who don't even descend from him>his book autism is in fact so strong that a galactic super predator who absorb biomass and genetic material also becomes book autistic because it ate the soldiers who had book autismIf this was canon I wouldn't mind it. It's just the right about amount of stupid.
>GW customer service image is a firstbornAt least someone has taste in Nottingham
I hate the change from the 6x4 to current map sizes. My LGS has these modeled and detailed terrain maps that were made a while ago and they are 6x4. But now you have to throw a shitty map on top of them.
>>98622432Just use the 6x4. The new sizes are just the minimum.
>>98622377there is nothing wrong with abstractions and models are fun
>>98622432How come none of you complainers ever post your games here?
>>98622417ghetto solution is 3x IKEA JALL for "legs" with several layers of cardboard (cut to size) on topcheap as your mom and much easier to store
>>98622441I agree with you on this topic but there can definitely be too much abstraction. "Leader pistol" comes to mind.
>>98622422Are you telling me that in the first world you have flats smaller than 80 square feet of useful space?
>>98622274They're a lot closer to correct than a lot of people think. people get caught up in thinking the model in the vehicle will take up the same amount of space s the base. The Rhino and the marine backpacks are what make them not fit well, scale wise even a primaris works out to fairly close equivalent of an M113, which fits 11-15 humans. Same with the old rhino and the beakies, people forget military vehicles aren't built for comfort. If anything the rhino is too tall compared to contemporary APCs if you're going to get into it.
>>98622457Son have you seen the housing market lately? I own a room and that already costs half my salary.
>>98622464>If anything the rhino is too tall compared to contemporary APCs if you're going to get into it.I mean that makes sense considering marines are on average as tall as NBA players.
>>98622297they literally walked back the Legendary Proxies rules lel
>>98622467I'm from the third world anon.Our richest 10% is earning less money than the minimum wage in Florida for fuck sake. Hell our richest 5% is barely above the minimum.You need two salaries here to rent a room and still some crazy mother fuckers try to meta chase this piece of shit game.
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>>98622474Marines should be tallerNormal sportsbros shouldnt match the stature of gene enhanced supersoldiers
Which factions have the best TEQ and can get away with running them as most of their army?
>>98622426I've been tempted multiple times to make Hive Fleet Ultra a reality
>>98622497plague dudes
>>98622488It stills crack me up that a Sherman is the size of a F150. Meanwhile they used a Sherman to kidnap a Japanese tankThen we have fighter jets that are as big as the old WW2 bombers.
>>98622494You guys have shit scale perception.
>>98622497space marines
>>98622514reminds me of the space marine image where the ground is 1ft tall lol
>>98622514Like son do you really want them to be even bigger? Do you even know what 7ft tall people look like compared to the average dude? Now imagine if instead of a thin lanklet, that 7ft giant is as wide as he is tall and covered in plate armour.
>>98622497During 9th you could do some very meme Aberrant Spam list.Muscle Beach if you want with 30 Aberratns and 3 abominants, but GW catch us having fun and nerf the shit out of them
>>98622457first world goyim live in 400sq ft cuckboxes tooif you can even afford a studio
>>98622474If we go by generally wanting the APC to be at average head level of the occupants, remove the base from the primaris here and stand him up straight the Rhino is too tall I think. That being said, >>98622377has the right of it, and its interesting to see what people think 'feels more realistic' when its actually the opposite of what they feel. >>98622488I forgot the name of the bongforce equivalent, my bad.
>>98622527Yeah I want space marines to be bigger
>>98622497Dark Angels or Grey Knights
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>11th edition is unmitigated compslop>massive power creep editionBased GW, anyone who still plays in 11th deserves this
>>98622507>Then we have fighter jets that are as big as the old WW2 bombers.a scale-accurate 28mm jumbo jet model would take up the entire tabletop and would be truly impressive to see
>>98622546Im enjoying 11th
Is this just a really bad time to be getting into warhammer?
it's crazy how marine players have a unit that can infiltrate then advance + move 14 inches and headshot a critical character with barely any counterplay and they'll truly try to go "it's not that good tho"
>>98622363I know some anons have brain damage but have you ever considered buying a sheet of plywood? You can literally buy them cut to size so you don't even need power tools or a saw. 15$ done. Do you buy a separate table for everything you do? Chess? New table, dinner guests? New table, birthday party? Two new table expansions.My second lgs sucked so we played in a guy's apartment. He owned 3 folding tables and 4 sheets of plywood. Easy to setup. Easy to teardown.Sure heavier wood is better but you arent going to tip a table without a lot of effort.
only the corpse emperor know where my shit ton of plastic men will go when i die.what is your will for them, should you go
>>98622547Give me the thunderhawk already you cowards.
>>9862254940k is pretty ass to play, in the sense that it isn't fun. The specialist games are still pretty fun but that depends if you have a local scene or not.
>>98622444I think this guy still has the crashed Thunderhawk board tile as well.
>>98622444Because I don’t actually play the game nor own any minis. I just jerk off to femboy porn and watch w40k lore shorts
>>98622549IdkIf you like space marines or orkz its probably a really good time to get inKill team is also fun
>>98622544btfo’d that dudewish the terrain had more color though
>>98622566>Kill team is also funKill team magnifies the issues of modern 40k. It's arguably worse than 40k.
>>98622549No. The models are still cool so building and painting is the same but even S the game is going through a lame epoch there's plenty of people who are out for a good time
>>98622552In a place a I used to live, we had a common area for events. Bought some foldable tables as donation to the place in exchange for using the space to play.Here some dudes even use their common area for events. Its literally a non issue if you are not retarded to have a proper size table.
>>98622573You’re welcome to that opinionI enjoy Kill Team, me and my buddies always have a good time with it
>>98622417I need a "just works" poorfag option for my future table for miniature painting.Are large folding tables a good idea? I found on on Amazon for less than a hundred Canadian monopoly money (limited time deal) 59.8" x 27.6" inches. I'm just looking for a hobby paint desk that is just a platform on legs that won't fall over easily and stay still. Nothing fancy. It is gonna get dirty anyways.
>>98622546>compslopE-sport*
>>98622549Avoid 40k. Look into Horus Heresy, Old World, Blood Bowl or Middle Earth (lord of the rings) instead. Those are all much better games.
>>98622549game wise Id say its a bad time for 8 years now.
>>98622549Do you want to paint? It's as good a time as any. Do you want to play and have fun? No it's not a good time.
>>98622588From personal experience if you do not have a dedicated place to paint, you are less likely to paint since you need to set up a place.Consider having a proper place for painting and if not possible some kind of deployable box.
>>98622258>They can't do literally everything anymore, just most things are are fasternigger that 12" Deep Strike denial comes bolted onto a fucking unique character for us and they made her a tranny so we won't use them, fuck off with your incessant whiningMarineoinkers get the fastest army that's tougher, S6 weapons on their battleline and they STILL find reasons to bitch
>>98622588Have you looked at Ikea?
>>98622277Orks haven't gotten a battle force in years, what's the issue?The armageddon box basically ensures they get one, the idea of battle forces is to "complete" existing product.>>98622273Nazdreg would be like a month old by the time they announce the battle force, zero chance.I'd bet on Wazdakka Gutsmek or Mozrog with 1-2 trukks, some of the new boyz and other shit.
>>98622551I mean. you needed what, 10 marines to conquer a planet in old lore?1 company (100) of oldmarines were mopping the floor with a prepared, entrenched Alaitoc who had titans, super heavies, and multiple Phoenix lords. I fully expect numarine players to be raging about feeling weak until your average xeno list contains 500 models most of whom are physically incapable of wounding a space marine.The dumbasses don't even remember the days where a shuriken catapult was literally better in every way than a Bolter. These days they expect to play like every single member of their squad is the main character in a video game and anyone who isn't a marine player is just generously painting, assembling and providing targets for their power fantasies.
>>98622549Honestly it's a bad time
>>98622603you can't handle space elf they/thussy
>>98622559I have no idea about my local scene>>98622566I don't like either of those>>98622575Honestly I don't mind which rules people want to play with, just finding people to play with is what matters to me>>98622591I got really confused by the heresy army building rules because I'm stupid, and the other settings I just don't really care about>>98622600>>98622609that sucks
>>98622591Amazing how all of those games are worse
>>98622572The trees were eventually painted a deep blood red and some smaller buildings were added.
Welp us Sister players won't get updated toughnesses nor bolters until we get our codex. So I guess we will be a fucking horde army for next year and half. Because the marines will be undercosted as hell so our points (and many other factions) will drop a LOT.Welp I guess at least I have 100 infantry ready already.
>>9862261640kg chuds are bitter retards who haven't played, painted, or bought a model in yearsyes it's a good time to get into the game
>>98622410>The mental image of of some GW grunt who is contractually obligated to browse /40kg/Not gonna lie I bet there already are those. /3dpg/ ardently swears they are around there watching. I bet for the intern it is probably the best or worst job imaginable. No middle ground there.I do firmly believe that marketing is conducted here to shill indie projects like Kickstarter stuff. Even with the negative connotation this site carries desperate indies will try to save face by pretending to be curious anons. I saw a Malaghast thread made and an anon got mad and people accused that anon of being the creator of the game. Was pretty funny.This means that genuine anons curiously asking about a game get mistaken as shills for indie games. >>98621962>Why was the Kill Team alternative wargame taken off the OP, OP?I think it is a few anons who constantly remake the threads and they tend to use a pre-saved text document on their computers. So they haven't updated their documents.>How long did it take us to update the OP when the third party pastebin link kept getting messed up/updating it when many shops went down?It was probably PAK or trolls or both doing that. Or even GW intern trolling. As for the update I think it took a week to be accepted.
>>98622616>just finding people to play with is what matters to meYou'll have no issue
>>98622622Yeah this is the rough partEnjoy your 6ppm sisters
>>98622591>Avoid 40k.>Look into Horus Heresy, Old World, Blood Bowl or Middle Earth (lord of the rings) insteadWhat about the alternative rules in the OP?
Play Titanicus
>>98622549This place is so negative for a variety of reasons some of which are presonal. 11th edition's rules are fine, the issues are codex imbalances. People are afraid that marines and orks are going to just run over everyone until they get a new codex. But this doesn't matter if you play with your friends or casually at a store.Painting, hobbying, and being social don't care about edition and it's always a good time to do those.
>>98622635Yeah Dominions are already 9ppm. Probably quite quickly we will drop to 7.5ppm and we may drop to 6 even. Wonder how low Guard will drop. I don't think they will quite go to 3ppm like in 8th edition at least.
>>98622554Why is the armoured shield on the wrong side of the heavy bolter wing mounts? And why the fuck did they not fill the colossal joins in the wing for a marketing piece? I thought they learned their lesson with the old display baneblane
>>98622616>I have no idea about my local sceneCheck it out, literally any other GW game is a better time than 40k. AoS is pretty similar but marginally better than 40k from a fun perspective. Ideally try to find a scene for one of >>98622591these games if you want to actually enjoy yourself.
>>98622622Welcome to the sister experience. We stopped selling well after our refresh so we’re going to get thrown to the side. The post refresh times were an anomaly.
>>98622581Those are not mutually exclusive statements.
>>98622625I'm starting to wonder whether "chud" is just a replacement term for "nerd" since now nerds are seen as cool so a new term had to be made.
>>98622549>Is this just a really bad time to be getting intoThis applies to literally everything nowadaysAnd the longer you wait, the worse it gets
>>98622642>11th edition's rules are fine>every fucking week there is some issue because the rules are a mess>rulebook, published pdf and app all have different rules>official list builder is so ass that event no longer know if the guys are cheating or it was a honest app mistake
>>98622537This you?
>>98622497Eldar, unironically. Perfect AT and anti-infantry, amazing overwatch, and easy access to regeneration/revival.Their detachment makes Wraithguard/blades battleline
>>98622642>11th edition's rules are fine,Not with those terrain rules, chum. 11th is anal slope made to babysit tournaments.
>>98622666>nerds are seen as coolnoin any case chud has an implication of bitterness that nerd does notnerds actually enjoy their hobbies, chuds hate their hobbies
>>98622626>This means that genuine anons curiously asking about a game get mistaken as shills for indie games.Pre-covid /tg/ had a lot of flat out open indie game developers posting here but cancel culture really fucked that up at the same time as marketing tabletop products got a lot more corporate so imitating home grown feel vs honest enthusiasm has become a lot harder to distinguish. Its an enshitification problem that's been happening for years at this point. Sucks because I'd like to give anons the benefit of the doubt but its harder to do these days.
>>98622535The rhino is basically reasonably proportioned for a guardsman and can, theoretically, fit all of a tactical squad if they take their backpacks off like real soldiers, and could even do it sort of comfortably if they took their FUCKING PAULDRONS off tooScale creep fucks it up, as does making the backpacks and pauldrons not get taken off during action, marines are just way way way too wide all around to fit in anything they purport toYou're right that it's a little tall but discounting the fact that it's just an FV432 squished around a bit, taller APCs have and do exist - that's before you even get into current day monsters with the ground clearance of a low flying aircraft to avoid mines
>>98622683>chuds hate their hobbiesAh so it refers to your average failed college artist?
Tau-bros,how many riptides do you have (painted)?
>>98622603>intercessors are T/S6 now and get to delete T3 armies on a 2+ to hit and wound just for sitting on an objective>can still shoot after completing an action>fuck most other battleline in melee despite being a "shooty" unit>oh but they dont have stick now so they're useless :(I'm fully expecting the eldar dex to drop and every unit will be overpriced and straight up worse than the marine equivalent, and marinefags will STILL bitch that they lost lost to a hyper specialized list and demand nerfs to those specific units in the list. marinefags could be given the bounty of heaven and they would still demand more.
>>98622683I'm not sure if a concrete definition can be found.I've seen the word used a lot on Warhammer 40k social medias. And the reasons for some getting the label are stupid and some just don't make sense. I've seen the word "chud" used like how /pol/ uses "woke." I think the sad reality is that the terms do have some truth, but nobody can decide when traits reach the point where they deserve the labelling. So they just grasp at the first signs in a "nip in bud before it grows" mentality.As for here it doesn't help that a lot of /pol/fags like to come here and pretend/larp to be those they hate. Why? I don't know, but when you notice it you'll notice it more.
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>>98622704I'm still mad about picture related nerf.Not our fault that the average marine/titan player is a retard.
>>98622679What's wrong with the terrain rules?>>98622642I find 11th a massive improvement over 10th but it still carries a ton of issue from it. Wargear costs might aswell still not exist if they don't add them to any units and the handful they do, upgrades cost just 5 points.
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>>98622549Most of these chumps don’t play or even have models, the game being fun is entirely dependent on the attitudes of the players going in, if you’re trying to play to win regardless of how you accomplish said win and your opponent is the same then it can be kinda depressing when you realize how unbalanced it is and completely reliant on your rolls which is basically just a slot machine but if you both go in with armies that are built and dictated by rule of cool and you guys are willing to allow a missed charge of 1 inch that seems close to succeed for a better story then you’re in for a treat my sweet.
>>98622712>upgrades cost just 5 points.Yes that’s how wargear vaguely worked
>>98622694Sort of. Usually chuds aren't dedicated enough to make it to art school in the first place. You can find a lot of bitter failed artist chuds on /ic/.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeJWCWUILg0
>decide to check out the marine Q&A steam >so yeah legendary proxies totally just a transitional thing while we get the guys writing rules for this stuff over the next couple weeks and months>totally the plan the whole time and we definitely didn’t have any pre existing data sheets to copy paste stuff from we definitely needed months to write those rules our>definitely totally the plan the whole time and people didn’t hound us about this >definitely always the plan Hell I even bothered to write a “I am not pleased and won’t feel comfortable buying units that might lose all support.” email to customer service. Feels good bros.
>>98622712toe in kinda cracked for units like defilers
>>98622692Its for sure the backpacks that make it look weird.Fitting 15 guardsmen in a rhino works, but that gets into transport capacity varying on base size, which is probably not shrimple enough for contemporary 40k.
>>98622724>dedicated enough to make it to art school in the first placeAnon please, you go into art school because you have no real skills. If you had actual antistatic skills you would not be going to art school.
>>98622724art school is for losersgood artists sell porn comms
>>98622723Not the point. Back in 9th upgrading the heavy bolter sponson of a Leman Russ costed 40 points per multimelta. Now it's just 5 points. Might aswell be free.
>Sisters aren't getting changedThen why even fucking play themThis nothingburger Q&A should not surprise anyone, they clearly hold great disdain for the players; how GW treated Guardfags when they were questioned about the Steel Legion not existing on Armageddon with that half-assed "they're dying out from the constant war :^)" excuse should have told you enough, if you hadn't figured it out before.Who decided "we should be outwardly hostile to our paying customers" was the best business strategy? I wish more people would actually vote with their wallets on this front.>>98621649Again, it's not just "more rivets"It's "how the rivets are patterned"The HH Russ looks like it costs more to make, because it would. That alone makes it more ornate and gaudy. To be gaudy is to be extravagant, especially in the face of cheaper methods that would come later (both IRL and in-setting, which is why the 40k Russ looks cheaper to make).>Dorn tank with its apparently cast turret and hull, yet still covered in rivets.The rivets on the Dorn look like they're for taking sub-assembly castings and putting them together onto one large frame, like the M3 Lee (which had both riveted plates and a cast housing for the hull gun). Or they're just bolts for something like a transmission housing (again, like an M3 Lee).The only "rule of cool" rivets on the Dorn are the ones on the outer edge of the mantlet, unless that's meant to signify it as a multi-panel assembly (also quite possible depending on forge quality for hardened steel), but I don't think GW's designers thought that far on either case and were just emulating the general aesthetic of American WW2 tanks.The Cadia-ification of the guard will be complete if the Russ goes.>The GW designers, and most people do not see as far as you hereTrue, most people do not ask "why" to things, they just do and it annoys those who do know why.
>>98622694NTA butThis is pretty common like you wouldn't believe.A lot of college artists wanted to be bigger than they are but they feel stuck to having to draw art they don't want to for things they don't have an interest in so they get bitter. I don't think many Warhammer 40k official artists like drawing for Warhammer 40k. They just do it for the paycheck so you have pieces like the stupidly thin boltgun. Or the Commissar's badly positioned bolt pistol hand.>pic relatedThey are essentially grifting mediums they hate for money. And I believe a good number of these college artists got a reality check that nobody wants to see their shitty paint splatters on canvas or their literal garbage pile in a corner they lazily made for millions. That's partially why I think some of them hate AI because now normies are essentially doing what they wanted to do but their results are better than their paint splatters.
>>98622729I feel like each transport having a full page list of how many of each type of footslogger it can carry is entirely in line with modern warhammer, thoughIn fact, and don't take this to mean I think it should be done, with digital rules you could have it all be done in menus where you just ask the program to tell you how many aurum evilbusters you can fit in your mandellax assault tuktuk or whatever
>>98622736LISTEN ANON DO YOU WANT UPGRADES OR NOT! WE PUT IN ALL THIS EFFORT JUST FOR YOU! WHAT DO YOU EXPECT US TO DO, PLAYTEST THIS SHIT? I HAVE A LIFE YOU KNOW! NOW HURRY UP AND BUY THIS BOX OF SPACE MARINE FARTS OR GET OUT!
>>98622729>>98622750Wait actually just having a "this model is x size" and "this transport can carry y size" would make it even more streamlinedYou could also have the fun experience of your primarch on all fours in a rhino with a pair of guardsmen crushed against the rear bulkhead by his divine arse
>>98622704>intercessors shooting 1 s6 is now worse than 4 s4 shots into t3 armiesfurther proof that people that complain don't actually play the game.
>>98622732You can't just show up off the street and get into an art school, least not any one that isn't bottom of the barrel dogshit. You already need to be an artist that is far more skilled than the average /ic/ poster.
>>98622514Note that he said "normal sportsbros", being a 7ft tall scarecrow isn't exactly normal.
>>98622750I mean older editions simply told you how many regular models it could it along with how many exception models.There is no real need to list every single model can be put inside.
>>98622764And I specifically said NBA players.
>>98622712>hat's wrong with the terrain rulesThey're arbitrary and I find them stupid. You can hide anything behind the terrain footprint no matter what it is so your big fuck off tank is invisible behind a rusty pipe. You put 1mm of your base on the edge of the terrain cutout and suddenly you're in terrain? Stupid detection rules so your backfield fire support can't target a unit on an objective because that unit hasn't shot. All because GW can't balance for shit so they have to force players to behave the way they want.
>>98622750>with digital rules you could have it all be done in menus where you just ask the programI do not want that either wow that feels bad to read. However >mandellax assault tuktukis pretty good.
why are space marine bolters +2 strength +1ap and +1 damage over regular bolters
>>98622549I don't know if it's a bad time per say- If you like the models get them.The game itself is in an awkward spot; 10e/11e streamlined a lot to make it easier to get into the game but the 11e start is clunky. Maybe consider getting a Killteam box for a faction you're interested in, so you could expand from that and have more game formats to play?
>>98622674Not him, but honestly looks fine, at least to me.I like the modern designs like primaris, but I do like these designs where it implies that the marines under the armor clearly aren't exactly normal humans. And it gives them an "air" of clearly being genetically modified hulks that where you have to wonder if you can even use the label of "human" for them anymore.Only thing I'd change is giving them slightly longer arms but this looks pretty neat.
>>98622781Its a big gun.
>>98622789For you.
>>98622781Marine players have very small pipis and need to show how big and strong they are.
>>98622758A size stat would also work for abstracting terrain rules.
>>98622778IDK anon all of it sounds good to me. What's your alternative? TLOS is shit and using terrain areas is a simple solution to not having to define 20 different cases to give cover. I always preferred 3rd/4th's terrain rules because they were simple, effective and worked for pretty much any terrain which means more varied boards and 11th's system is pretty much the same thing.
>>98622760>standard Battleline units should be able to hit Wraithguard on 2's and wound them on 4's with standard weapons>oh and then rapid fire into t3 units on 2's wounding them on 3's OINK OINK OINK
>>98622795Yes I play space marines, yes my penis is aristocratically small. Yes I am proud of this fact. You are a large penised plebian.
I don't think I've ever seen you guys be positive regarding 40k news
>>98622781GW is fucking stupid and decided marines don't get to have actual boltguns, which means their new gun MUST be better to justify its existance. Same shit with pyreblasters and flamers, melta rifles and meltaguns, plasma annihilators and plasmaguns and funniest of them all, missile launchers with SUPERFRAG AND SUPERKRAR because apparently frag and krak missiles weren't enough.
>>986227011.5I never actually use them though (the .5 of one isn't even on a base)
>>98622803There hasn't been much to be positive about in the past decade.
>>98622797>simple, effective and worked for pretty much any terrainand how exactly does that sell more model kits, if people simply make their own terrain?
When painting black vehicles, should I simply skip washes and focus only on edge highlights after basecoating with black? I have 3 Rhinos to paint and I wonder what's the smartest approach.
>>98622797The main issue with 11th terrain is that for some insane reason they are using default map layouts for scenarios.Even in the base scenarios of 4th for example the ones with dedicated terrain like a bunker didn't even suggest the size of it.
>>98622803retards here were bitching because the exodite models looked like the original jes goodwin sketches and not the headcanon they made upthere's no pleasing a /40kg/ sperg
>>98622816GW doesn't make money from terrain because they don't sell shit. Most of their terrain gets removed from sale within months of releasing and buying a whole plastic terrain board costs more than multiple armies. Even them must know there's no way they are gonna get people to buy it.
>>98622805It still cracks me up that the new missile launcher have the movie marine name.
>>98621713Is it the lighting of that model? How did GW box art paints paint those dark metal tank treads? I like them.
>>98622827Because it's expensive as fuck, they created their own problem by making it absurdly overpriced to the point it made zero sense to buy it unless it was dirt cheap after discounts and bundles so everyone just made their own, and then never fixed it for so long that this just has been the standard for way too long.
>>98622820That's not true. Only the tournament companion has specific layouts. Even the missions in the chapter approved cards have generic deployment maps that only tell you where the objectives should be. You can make whatever layout you want.
>>98622551EC have that unit and it's 80 points.
>>98622796There's already crazyness with size and transports. You can fit 5 terminators in a row with a boarding torpedo but not in a rhino somehow.
>>98622839>fixed objectivesWhy?
>>98622603What does marines having other stuff have to do with the points cost of Infiltrators? They've lost their good abilities and are currently expensive at 110. They'll get cheaper.
>>98622850Marines have been an issue for 40k for a long time.It got more obvious as edition went on, but GW "balance/make" things around the marine ecosystem.Reason why marines went from T3 to T4. Later to W2 and now they have Movie Marine Stat line.
>>98622849Just like always? I don't get your confusion. Older editions just mostly used table quarters instead of objective markers but when they did they told you where to put it.
tell me about your glue. Whats the glue you are using whats the best plastic glue?!
>>98622665idk wymI was just saying I enjoy kill teamMy friends and I always have a good time when we play itIf you don’t like it, that’s cool
>>98622859>Reason why marines went from T3 to T4That happened before 1990 my dude.
>>98622830Superkrak is at least as old as 2nd Edition.
>>98622797You can mix true line of sight and area terrain rules. You can have buildings give cover without everyone on the bottom floor being magically invisible. The terrain rules are just a shoddy job.
>>98622864>idk wymI mean that you can have fun with kill team and kill team magnifying most issues with modern 40k can both be true at the same time.
>>98622862Plenty of previous edition missions had player-placed objectives. I suspect that's what they're on about.
>>98622862Those are not fixed anon.
>>98622549Its never a good time to get into 40k, even when it is.
New WAAC tactic unlocked, pull the fire alarm when you don’t like your tournament pairing.
>>98622444You have never done that yet you want us to believe you play and own models. Curious!
>>98622801at best, space marines do the same damage into other space marines as before. worse into weaker armies. and cost more points. but keep telling me how it's a buff that your 5 man intercessors squad within 12 inches of a tank now does 2 expected damage instead of 1. and no longer has oath of moment.
>>98622862Anon older edition didn't tell you where to place the objective.Even in your example is just a guideline, it just tells you place a building of some sort roughly along the middle. Compared that with the exact measurements of 11th is just pure insanity
>>98622874That's already how it works. If you are inside the terrain area then TLOS activates and you're only invisible if the terrain piece is actively blocking sight. Bottom floors rule is there so that stuff with wholes like windows can actually block LoS.
>>98622888space marine bolters are now much better into t5 and 6light tanks like venoms now get shredded by basic intercessorsphobos gets 2+ movementmarines are +1 to wound into the vast majority of their opponents nowthe vast majority of weapons in the game are now -1 to wound into marinesyour average marine intercessor shot hits on 2s and wounds on 2s for t3
>>98622850It's because no one fields all Infiltrators, retard, and the game is filled with 8" denial, not 12" on infiltrators, but you now have the FASTEST infiltrators in the game with the toughest and shootiest battleline coming in behind them and yet you STILL have the audacity to oink and squeal that a tiny portion of your kit was taken away in exchange for getting dudes faster than Eldar. The most spoiled shits in the game, I swear
>>98622887I just posted a game like 20 min ago but go ahead and continue to lie
>>986228995 intercessors shooting at 5 intercessors killed 1.4 intercessors before. they now kill 1.1 intercessors. unless you're within rapid fire range of a unit that sits on a back objective for some reason.
>>98622801> standard Battleline unitsI mean it’s all relative to the army and point distribution isn’t it? Some armies have weaker or stronger battleline compared to others don’t they? Marines becoming more elite can be a double edged sword.
>>98622907I don't see any games with your name on it.
second ever unit finishedalso know a guy who has a printer just need to figure out how to make a stamping plate or decent decals for my guys™
Can I just use the already applied glue on grass tufts or should I REALLY be using plastic glue for them?
>>98622917>finished
>>98622888>he's complaining how his small arms fire can damage tanks hitting on 2's after taking an action to score pointsHave you ever played another army in your life? Can you conceive of how ridiculous that sounds?
>>98622877I guess, but I guess that I just don’t personally recognize those supposed issues as being invasive to my enjoyment of itNor do any of my friendsIdk what exactly you’re referring to but if it annoys you like that then yeah it may just not be for you
custodes are gonna be so fucking strong holy shit
>>98622917>assault marines can't have eviscerators anymoreJAMES
>>98622912>OINK OINK IF MY OPPONENT IS ALSO A MARINEPIGGY THENhalf the fucking game isn't Marine v Marine you mouth-breather
>>98622919Elmer's glue for stuff that goes on the base.
>>98622931Yeah t9 allarus gonna be tough
>>98622916I hope you don’t see it because I know the kind of person you are.
>>98622924how much damage do you actually think that is? yes you can spike, but how often are you within 12inches of a unit of intercessors with a tank?
>>98622935Yeah but like, do I really have to considering there's already glue on the tufts pre applied?
>>98622938You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.
>>98622920 yeah assembled would have been a better wordi'm assembling the whole combat patrol first before I paint them
>>98622930NTA but for me it's the lack of customization and the rigidness of it all. Then again I much prefer how Necromunda works as a skirmish game.
>>98622913Name a single other battleline that can do anything close to what that marine statline gets to do.2 wounds, 3+ save, action + shoot, hits on 2's, S6 shots with AP, S5 A3 melee, grenade launcher special weapon, all in one neat package that can fit into any cover in the game since they're just 5 models.
>>986229243rd edition Necrons had something like that.But all their bullshit was countered by having low initiative, very few options, relative slow units and an inbuilt counter with the phase out mechanic.Current marines do not seem to have anything to slow them down
>>98622934NTA what seems to be the issue, that marines are properly elite and that a squad of marines does more damage and is tougher than a squad of basic guardsmen?
>>98622931>all the new plastic heresy stuff is getting 40k non-legends use.Uh, based?
>>98622950Yeah, I could understand thatSome teams have more customization than othersSome teams don’t have any customization options at all I thinkLegionaires in particular get a good amount of options since you can pick their chaos marks
>>98622941Do it to be sure.
>>98622955Please God let AdMech be the next for that. I will do unspeakable things to make this true.
>>98622962YOU'll get nothing.Bitch.
>>98622965Why so rude?
>>98622954The issue is they would be 180 points in any other army, 200 if xenos, but they're not. They're insane value and this thread is filled with piggies oinking that they lost one feature or glub shitto while getting massive power buffs. I don't give a shit if battlelines are weaker at lower points costs, but Marinepigs get special point discounts for buying more models than other armies.
>>98622970We don't have the after buff points, they might aswell be 180 points.
>>98622939Fairly commonly, actually. Great example is on most layouts with the large central objective, a 12 inch range means you'll be able to stage behind the central objective out of LoS but also be able to hit something that's toe-in in the deployment zone or also staging behind the central ruin.Especially with armywide advance + charge access.
>>98622952None, but that’s my point, it’s all relative to the points per model. Marine infantry is likely going to have a much higher points cost in their 11th codex, shifting more of the focus onto them from the armor.
>>98622977They've confirmed on the Q&A that the price increases are small and we know from the leaks that Intercessors are 95 points
>>98622954Just for comparison with older editions.>Marines hit on a 3+ and killed on a 3+>Guardsmen hit on a 4+ and wound on a 5+ and the marine gets a 3+ saveMarines where still more powerful than the regular guardsmen.
>Vulkan He'Stan is still cheaper than 10 Sisters>no, we aren't updating SoB at all>>98622863Anon, it's a chemical with an SDS that you can read to know the exact composition.>Mr. Hobby cement is 25-50% ethyl acetate, 25-50% acetone, and the remainder butanone>Tamiya standard is 60% butyl acetate, 30% acetone, and the rest a mix of polystyrene, butanone and ethyl acetate>Tamiya extra-thin is 24-45% ethyl acetate, 24-45% acetone and 12-25% butanone>Citadel plastic glue is 50-60% butanone, 15-25% vinyl chloride vinyl acetate, 15-25% thermoplastic polyester (aka TPE), less than 5% epoxy resinThe percent variances are "trade secrets" and batch variance, do the math yourself.I use Mr. Hobby Mr. Cement Deluxe anymore because it's what I can find locally. It works the same as the other ones IME.
>>98622805Boltrifles and carbines are actual boltguns.
>>98622805>missile launchers with SUPERFRAG AND SUPERKRARThese existed in RT btw, Super Krak at least.
>>98622995I will say this once more. If they are, why do they have a different name, different design and different rules?
>>98622977>>98622981If Marines move up to at least 185, I will cease bitching because I will consider them balanced at that price, possibly even just to 180 if, by some typo or soon-to-be-fired intern's mistake, their army rule is bad.
How gay would it be to play dark angels but as my oc donut steel chapter that just so happens to have dark angels tools.I just want terminators with sword & board
>>98623007as long as you paint your models nobody cares
>>98622968Why not
>>98623005the new space marine army rule is the gladius detachment rule, which is basically the single strongest rule in the game that isn't EC's army rule
>>98623014We know its doctrines but I find it unlikely that the effects are gonna be the exact same as gladius considering how much orks got changed.
>>98623019It is, we've already seen the text in the intro set combat patrol.
>>98623019It's leaked from the combat patrolIt's the same as Gladius
>>98623014Gladius is strong because of the total package of rule, enhancements and strats, not because doctrines alone is particularly strong. Oath is bullshit and doctrines is less so.
Real monkeys paw with the Marine Statline stuffOn one hand>Buff models and increease point cost (good)On the other>Only for new codices so armies that should feel elite are caught holding the bag until their turn.If they did this with all the armies except Nids, IG and GSC that'd be cool.
>>98623020>>98623026Well it is still not that PLUS double oath at least.
>>98623014I will only believe what I see printed. What I've seen so far is insane, but at the same time maybe the Eldar codex comes out and they give us a Psychic phase, make every unit a Psycher level 1 minimum, a 9" base move, and give our Shurikens all Lethal Hits 2 or something stupid as well
>>98623029can't wait for incubi to wound basic marines on a 4 and get wounded on a 3or for them to wound elite marines on a 5 and 6 (anti-elite btw)
God I hope sisters stay dogshit forever. The sheer whinging is exhausting and has exhausted all sympathy I have for them. At least eldar players stop complaining for a while.
>>98623029Early edition power creep and armies waiting their turn to catch up should not feel surprising to anyone playing this game. For some reason it's considered especially terrible this time. Orks just went from 65% win rates to buffs and there was less bitching about being left behind.
>>98623029No Tau will NOT be getting BS3 fire warriors and crisis suits.
>>98623029Nids are likely getting a buff too, not gaunts or the real big monsters, but genestealers, and Tyranid warriors will likely become more elite.
>Rhinos can carry 12 Tacticus boysIt's time. The Rhino Rush returns.
>>98623034>make marines' cheap units strong and able to at least make a dent in anything they shoot at>"why is everyone just bringing tanks/monsters"Not helping the guard "baneblades and bullgryns" meta here>>98623040The reason there's more of a shitfit over marines is because the majority of people will play against marines, but the majority will not be playing against Orks.One change has a larger affect on the game, so people care more about it.
>>98623029T4 Eldar soon
>>98623046Marines wounding rhinos on a 5+ with standard bolters.
>>98623050I do think aspect warriors will be T4 W2.
I just think godwyn pattern boltguns look the best.
>>98622982>we know from the leaks that Intercessors are 95 pointsThey really want to sell the three new boxes of intercessors they've made.
>>98623062>someone looked at this conversion and thought they did a good job
>>98623062gangnam style
>>98623032Hopefully notEldarcucks deserve to be stuck at the bottom of this edition
>>98623072You look in the mirror every day and think you look good.
>98623077>SQUEEE oink oink oink
>>98623026>Turn 1 Dev (scoot & shoot)>Turn 2 Ass (scoot & stab)>Turn 3 Tac (dip shoot stab)>Turn 4 board wiped
>>98623087knife-ear seethedrukhari are okay tho, they can be strongbut you get to stay in the dirt where you belong
>>98623094anon drukhari are gonna be wounding scarab termies on a 6 they're fucked
>>98623057The aspect warriorization of primaris will finally be complete
>>98623096thats cool too I dont care either way
>>98621793And I don’t want that. I want to proxy my Intercessors as tactical and devestators.
>>98623096Incubi have an astonishingly bad melee profile for how devastating they used to beWyches too for that matter but they can be buffed to high hellDrukhari is a glass army of bad shooting, bad melee, and endless fast trash to make up for both
>>98621822Yes but guess who controls the status quo?
>>98623096That anon is one of the two resident anti-eldar schizos. One is decalfag, the other is some random marinepiggy who oinks every time he sees anything about the Eldar because one time in 4th edition he lost a match to them or something.
>>98623002Same reason why ARs, AKs, FALs and SCARs have different names and specs despite being same types of guns in reality.
>>98623072What's wrong with it?
>>98623062Meh, it's just a short belisarian bolt rifle. The heavy bolt rifles look the best out of all marine guns.
>>98623119Same type, not same weapon.
>>98623121Lanklet marines. Marines aren't meant to be lanklets.
>>98623127Irrelevant.
>>98623129The premise of the conversatio can't be irrelevant.
>>98623131It is.
>>98623133So this is the brainpower of primarisfags.
>>98622979>a 5 man unit of intercessors in the middle objectivehave you every played a single game?
>>98623062I like the phobos pattern a lot too.
>>98623034>ultra elite sword autist that has dedicated hundreds of years to studying the blade>initiation ritual requires defeating an already existing incubi, then killing an aeldari exarch and torturing their soul to make an evil psychic helmet>one of the possible trials to become a klaivex (shrine leader) is to defeat 4 space marines in full power armor with weapons of their choosing in melee combat, while you are unarmored with one hand tied behind your back>so skilled at killing that other eldar believe their abilities are supernatural>same weapon skill as a random ork boy that was born yesterdayA unit of 5 incubi should wipe 10 marines or 5 termies no problem But this is a marinepiggy game, so that’s never going to happen
>>98623121>What's wrong with it?leg proportions are off, arms now end at the top of the thigh instead of halfway down like on a human, torso now too shortlooks like the guy who spent 100k to stop being a manlet
>>98623029Nids are meant to be the most elite army in the game actually (or were, before Custodes and Knights). People just dont really get what gaunts are. Gaunts are their version of Grots or Scouts, not their version of Boyz or Intercessors. The nid version of a Boy or an Intercessor is the Warrior. It's the basic core of Tyranids, that's why it has such a generic name, just "Tyranid Warrior", same as Necron Warrior or Kabalite Warrior or Fire Warrior. It is the baseline Troops choice of the faction, and has stats on par with Custodes. The little bugs are the weirdo auxiliary backup Troops like Grots and other aforementioned.
>>98623137You got an answer, you just aren't happy about it. In reality you just want people to parrot the same opinion as you.
>i deliberately chose to play a side faction in a game where 99 percent of the mainstream appeal is the main faction, why does the main faction keep getting attention??????what causes this
>>98623144That's not a boltgun.Different specs, different design, different name, different proportions even.
>>98623154>*blocks your path*nothin personnel, nid…
>>98623026So you only get a faction rule for 3 out of 5 turns? Gladius had stratagems to repeat doctrines. This seems a bit meh unless datasheets just are stronger as a baseline, which then again, seems to be the case.
>>98623145a nob has the exact same profile as an incubi
So if the BASIC infantry are getting s6 ap-1 d2 firepower what will the elite infantry get?
>>98623145Incubi used to be the only aspect warrior with weapon skill 5, which was pretty cool.
>>98623152Marines always had short torsos. All the new upscaled marines have them too. The new height all comes from the legs.
>>98623164You gonna start this same spergout every single day now huh
>>98623169It's just the opposite of SistersYou don't get MD for the first turn, and you won't have enough to do anything in turn 2, you might be able to start turning it around turn 3
>>98623164>same rules>same proportion>same name (the pattern isn't in the rules, just a lore thing)IDK why you're trying to force this meme. Bolt carbines would have been perfect as the newest standard boltgun pattern but they chose to not only make them a separate gun, but also make them not the default and to top it off scouts now get an actual new pattern of the standard boltgun with standard boltgun rules. It's all so stupid and unnecessary.
>>98623165Obviously Phoenix Lords being unique named characters are even more elite but the point I'm making is that the Tyranids equivalent to Eldar Guardians are big 10 foot tall monsters with Custodes stats, not the little T3 bugs. Perception of nids themes has just gotten very warped over the years from "big honking space monsters that have some little swarming adds" to "swarming little monsters that have a few big ones sprinkled in" and its backwards.
>>98623164Officially the phobos is 100% a bolt gun, just like the umbra and the tigrus. That thing on the right is not though you’re correct, I actually converted that in an experiment from the bolt rifle. You can see here how I made it, cutting off the end segment then re-attaching the iron rights bezel break and other doodads.
>>98623194I mean horde and monster mash are both still accessible to the nids. To me at least the endless swarm makes a lot of sense. Why waste biomass on a larger dudes when the little guys work just as well on the average PDF?
>>986231752a s6 ap-2 d3 sus/dev
This is what they took from you.
>>98623194I remember playing in 5th and blowing up the nid synapses dude and learning about the charts the other player had to roll on for his army to see what they did.Man what a game this used to be, what a fucking waste of flavor
>Legionaries can be equipped with Lascannons & Autocannons>They only come out of Havocs sprue>Havocs sprue have only two of each heavy weaponGeeDubs pls
>>98623211I mean yeah it's great that they can do both, it just irritates me a bit that the general perception among the community is that nids are first and foremost a "weak horde faction" when that's just one way to run them and not even the original vision, it's more like an alternative variant that came later. It's like if everyone thought space marines were first and foremost "space bikers" when that's just White Scars and Ravenwing, you get what I mean?
>>98623223Yeah 10th and 11th feel like fanfiction to me, I just cant enjoy them
>>98623237>>98623223Cool, leave
>>98623244This is 40k general, not current edition general, retard. I'll sit here and post about Rogue Trader all day if I want to.
>>98623249Nta but you’ll do no such thing
>>98623254No I won't, but I could and it would be on-topic. Telling people to leave because they don't suck off the current edition is a retard take.
>>98623244lmao look at this faggot trying to act all bossy on an anonymous internet forum
>>98623179Notice how his arms still end naturally so he doesn't look like a t-rex
>>98622982>95 points for allatIf dire avengers had even half the kit intercessors have they would be 120pts for 5>+15pts if you take dual shuripults on the exarch :^)
>>98623249Hey remember when you got blown out over your larping as an old edition veteran two nights ago and spent hours throwing a tantrumlol
>>98623277>ifSo you're making up a scenario in your head and getting mad about it?
I'm honestly tempted to dig out my old models and rulebooks and do some solo 4th edition battle reports but I have a heavy workload for my job the next 2 months and I don't currently have a table or terrain at home to play on. In November when work slows down I think my winter hobby project will be to build a proper 6x4 table for my apartment. What kind of scenery should I do? Like jungle, snowy, muddy trench field, etc.
>>98623283Hey remember when you got blown out every single time you've ever outed yourself as that same shitposter but then just lie about it and do the same pathetic historical revisionism every single time. You've been terminally sandblasted since the time you tried to say the plural of codexes was "codices" and got immediately fucking obliterated by an old screenshot of the GW designers saying codexes and have been having a months long meltdown ever since. It's seriously gotten sad at this point.
>>98623145>Incubi Klaivex4 attacks 5 2 2>One marine with a power sword6 attacks 6 2 2
>>98623262>>98623249whats diddy blud on about :skull:
>>98623290funny im aiming for November to start my first army after buyfagging a bunch of stuff for the hobby too
>>98623310The holiday season is always the best time to start desu. Takes me back to when I was a kid because I couldnt really afford models most of the year so I'd always get a big influx of stuff on christmas.
>>98622765>that rules writing styleholy fuck this mogs the current legal paper style of rules writing in terms of flavor so hard it isn't even funny
I don't play Thousand Sons but why the fuck isn't there a space marine melee/skirmish unit riding on discs yet? Isn't that their gimmick?
>>986233016 attacks is only for characters. Big characters too. Captains only get 5.
>>98623319based my winter break tradition as a kid was reading all of Harry Potter such a comfy read when it’s cold out, wish i had gotten into warhammer sooner it was always on my radar but i or my family never had the money for it growing up
>>98623296>It's actually the 4th larperGonna cry about how nobody knows what fof was when you yourself didn't know what it is again?
>>98623296>Hey remember when you got blown out every single time you've ever outed yourself as that same shitposter but then just lie about it and do the same pathetic historical revisionism every single time.meds>You've been terminally sandblasted since the time you tried to say the plural of codexes was "codices"genuinely, meds
>>98623338You're mixing up different anons, I started with 2nd, I merely like 4th but I'm not the one posting about it all the time. You are the mother of all LARPers.
>>98623224People like you are why we have desolationators that only come with missile launchers and intercessors that are not allowed to have anything. The kits used to be interchangeable by design, it even recommended doing so on the website.
>>98622750I find this to be very representative of the difference in rules design philosophy between modern 40k and old 40/30k.In modern 40k the core ruled have absolutely nothing in them regarding transport capacity, so it has to be states in every single datasheet. In 30k there's a USR called Bulky (X) where X specifies how many transport seats are taken by that model. To GW the 40k version is simpler because the core rules are shorter but in truth it's just convoluted and redundant while 30k just needs a single word and a number to do the same.
>>98623349The other guys was right, take your meds.
not gonna blow your cover but im pretty sure i know who 4th edition anon is lol
>>98623338>>98623340Hilarious how you make your samefagging this obvious. Took you 11 minutes to set up your two devices so you could reply twice at the same time? Fucking kek. You're as obnoxious as decalfaggot at this point.
>>98623361>s-s-samefag!!!the cry of the raped
>>98623361You genuinely need to take a break from this siteNot everybody who disagrees with you is one person
>>98623356I was more or less complaining about the havoc sprue, like devastator & scourges, having only two heavy weapons on sprue so you need to buy multiple sprues just for the weapons.
>>98623360I'm assuming 4th ed anon is the SRDanon or one of the related guys, who were mostly a pretty cool bunch although those projects never seemed to get done.
>>98623320I like legal paper style because it's succinct and can't be misconstrued for advantage
>>98623361NTAI need you to take a step back and realize how unhinged this post and >>98623296 this one read
>>98623367Not gonna happen now but I think they should have split the kit in two so they could fit 4 of each weapon. One kit for the anti infantry guns, one for the anti tank guns.
>>98623367Yes I know, its that exact complaint that got us boxes that have nothing. The devastator box was an incredibly good kit, it was jam packed with options, a fully loaded 3 sprue box for 60 dollars. To fit twice as many heavy weapons in there it would have been like 4 or maybe even 5 sprues; there was just no way GW would ever do that.Maybe one of these days we will get lucky and they will release a heavy weapons upgrade kit like for HH, but until then we are stuck with just the plain jane intercessors.
>>98623363>>98623366>no response for 11 minutes>suddenly two at the same time>two more at the same time>doing the basic bitch "all lowercase for one reply and punctuation for the other to look like two people"Nigger you are so transparent it's embarrassing, get a better hobby than shitting up /40kg/ over your constant assdamage for getting outed as the actual larper.
I too want to play 4this it better with the 4th ed codecies or the 3.5ed codecies?
>>98623385Just gonna ignore me then?Fine, continue looking like a schizophrenic sperg, you'll definitely prove yourself right one of these days!
I’m GONNA DO IT THIS WEEKEND,I’m gonna BUILD MY GUARD ARMY.IM GONNA REMOVE MY PILE OF SHAME I JUST HAVE TO DO 3 VEHICLES, 4 SQUADS, and 2 CHARACTERS IM GONNA DO IT BROS
>>98623385This is the power of unfiltered schizophrenia at work folks
It’s so fucking beautiful to see this. Primaris are kings, fellas. We’ve finally have been rid of what has dragged this ip down.
>>98623395Its not *that* much you got this
I thought the whole thing about chaos space marines is that they're from the heresy and have fancy heresy era weapons, but they don't, they have garbage, but space marines have fancy new gear and vehicles, and are even just better upgraded versions of space marines. Doesn't it make space marines look lame? It looks as pathetic as the US military losing to the Viet Cong.
>>98623385>I AM NOT CRAZY THEY REPLIED TO ME WITHIN A MINUTE THAT MEANS THEY'RE THE SAME PERSON
>>98623386Depends on the faction, the general position is to use the first four 4th ed codexes that released which was Marines, Nids, Black Templar and Tau. Eldar is divisive, oldfag eldar players seem 50/50 on it. After eldar 3.5 is usually better. If you want to go the extra mile let Dark Eldar players backport their 5th ed dex., shouldnt be too hard.
>>98623399>dad what was it like when GW finally cut bait with firstb*rn midgets?
>>98623395Now get back to me when you finish painting thoseIt took me like a month to do 10 guys and a character from sprue to painted and based, albeit I was also working maybe 3-6 hours a week on it for that whole period.
Real schizo hours
>>98623338>shitposter-kun gets spanked red raw every time (you) bring this up>still keeps coming back for moreGlutton for punishment huh? Greedy little bottom
>>98623399Why would you prefer intercessors over tacticals? Why not just give intercessors the weapon options? It would only make the unit better.
>>98623412>still trying to push a new poopdickschizoyou are the tourist cancer that is killing 4chan
>>98623418Nah i am
>>98623412Your scapegoat doesn't existThe 4th larper who threw a fit over FoF then got proven wrong and had to keep screaming that everybody totally meant something that nobody said is very real
>>98623418Yeah because there definitely isn't one guy (you) just constantly rehashing this 4e shit and getting told off by multiple anons...
Dogshit thread
>>98622300Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
>>98623427Remember two days ago when the 4th larper had 4+ replies to every single post in under a minute each time? How's that work in your mind, does your schizo scapegoat have over 4 devices to shitpost on concurrently?
Tell me why I shouldn't buy centurions to proxy as mutilators in a renegade list.
>>98623436They look like absolute shit
>>98623436Why do you want to be dissuaded from doing that? Go ahead
>>98623415I’m not defending primaris itself, but gun to my head, I’d choose intercessors because genuinely the proportions make it better. this is not to say it isn’t inferior in every other conceivable way (weapons, posable, chest variety, backpack variety, leg variety, head options, extra bits, ect.) but the intercessors look nicer. luckily, I don’t have a gun to my head, and so I’m able to avoid (imperial) space marines like the plague.
>>98623436Cuz they look like ass
>>98623434Just want to double check, who are you referring to as 4th larper? The one arguing for FoF or the one saying it was a meme? Because I witnessed one person saying it was a meme and about 4 others dogpiling on their stupid ass
>>98623162>Deliberately not playing the main faction game
>>98623436you can’t do it because you’re a daydreaming failure.
i will not be playing kroot with my tau army thats so fucking stupid that they added dumb xenos allies to be the grunts instead of having them be like drones or little robots or something
>>98623442Excuse you? Like the what?!
>>98623446>the one saying it was a memethis one, he got dogged on by the whole thread then continued to cry samefag until this retard going UHM THIS IS ALL MY POOPDICKSCHIZO ACKSHUALLY showed up and people started laughing at him instead
>>98623438I think they're cringekino models, and I prefer them to mutilators in the context of renegades.
>>98623438Nta but I couldn’t disagree more
>>98623415I want to roll one handful of dice for the whole squad, not pick out individual special weapons. Game takes too long to play. When the new codex drops I'm going to cut my list down to 10 data sheets max as well. Sergeant uses same shit as his squad.
>>98623320It's actually insane how far we've fallen
>>98623462permanent means permanent
>>98623436that one guy on youtube runs an oops all centurions army so people will think youre copying him
>>98623454Right, okay then we're on the same page but I think that who you refer to as 4th larper is using that term the other way around to sew confusion. Shitposter-kun has been using "4th larper" to refer to the multiple people who told him off
>>98623471>Shitposter-kunStop trying to make this happen, it's not going to happen.
>>98623464>I want to roll one handful of dice for the whole squad, not pick out individual special weaponsGay and soulless>takes too long to playBecause you play 11th with its retardedly bloated mission/scoring system
>>98623442Curious how every time I talk about the units every reply is about the proportions, making every other change completely unnecessary.
>>98623462it is your god given right to scarf down shit by the bucketload, but there are probably 12 other people on the entire planet who disagree with >>98623438
>>98623468Oh dude you’re actually fuckin sick in the head man
>>98623476Well what else do we call the one dude constantly baiting and feeding dumb arguments in here? Because it is just the same cunt, day after day, I can recognise his bs instantly these days
>>98623438>>98623444Can we leave decal’s mom out of this?>>98623319Yeah I always grab some models or terrain or something around christmastimeEspecially if I can catch some sales
i dont like people shittalking 11th because ive never actually played before so 11th will be my introduction to the game and it makes me feel bad :/
>>98623436That's what I'm doing, go for it
>>98623491>newfagMy estimation of anon has fucking plummetted
>>98623464It's the exact same amount of dice rolls as intercessors, you can just swap the grenade launchers for flamers, meltaguns and plasmaguns. Same shit with devastators, having options doesn't mean taking one of each it means you can choose.
>>9862349111th is aight man dw about it too much
>>98623478>one handfulTo my knowledge you can roll 70 in one attack with Arco-Flagellants with an attached priestUp to 63 with Infernus Marines with an attached Ancient with ImmolatorThat's a lot more than a handful, and those are all on 1 weapon profile so you roll them all at once.Not the anon you're replying too, just pointing out the absolute extreme of dice bloat as well.
>>98623491I mean playing a bad edition is probably still better than never playing at all, if you game with friends who are in it to have fun and not sweaty tourneytranny fags who wear sports jerseys then there are worse things you could do with your time.
>>98623480now you’re getting it.
>>98623496OOOOOOOH>>98623499i know its just kind of off putting because everyone is chicken littleing about it and im just like >i dunno i think it looks like fun to me
>>98623480As several of us have been saying all along, exactly
>>98623491>sopranos poster owns modelpost them.
>>98623488No, you can'tBecause you've called me him before and I've seen others say the sameYou don't have some intuition as to the identity of the posts you don't like, you're just trying to find a scapegoat you can spam about now that mentioned the mutant can get you a 24 hour vacation
>>98623508I have no friends who play 40k (or friends at all lol) but my LGS holds big get together for like every major holiday so i figure ill meet people then when i get my army figured out
>>98623517I dont yet im the guy with the giant amazon cart of art stuff too i have to wait until after Halloween because of family bs so im just saving until then to buy everything in one go
>>98623498For intercessors at the end of 10th the grenade launchers weren't worth firing over the extra bolt rifle attacks. Might be different now with 4 shots becoming 2 (rapid 1) and the extra strength to the krak grenade though. For a unit that just stands on objectives and (if needed) does actions it's wasting everyone's time to roll special weapons separate.
>>98623526Godspeed
>>98623491It's fun I like it a lot more than 10th.
>>98623491>>98623533It is better than 10th, that's just the lowest bar imaginable because 10th was the nadir of 40k.
>>98623518I don't need a scapegoat, he is genuinely here and fed that 4th argument that just happened. For all I know you could be him just lying about "wah I got false repot :(" such is the anonymous nature of 4chen. Anyway don't label him for all I care and he can keep operating in total anonymity and keep fucking threads up, sorry for trying
>>98623543>>98623533was 10th really that bad?>>98623530Thank you anon we will get there
> got into a minor fender bender> love tap a guy who suddenly stopped while turning because some retard on an escooter blew threw a crosswalk at 40km/h when it was red> probably going to cost me $1500-$2000 cash, not going through insuranceThere goes my hobby budget until the new year. I guess I'll spend extra time on my Farseer + JZ + Asurmen.
>>98623554>was 10th really that bad?no, 8th and 9th were worse
>>98623554It was the blurst of times
>>98623552You're right you don't need a scapegoatYou're just actually this mentally unwell unironically
>>98623386Imma shill my own homebrew.https://mega.nz/folder/2YdghLzL#w0KOILlS1lrM1AeE4jcG-QBut to answer your question. 3rd ed books>Daemon and Witch Hunters>Necrons>Guard (3.5)>Chaos Space Marines (3.5)4th ed>Tau>Space Marines>Eldar>Orks>Tyranids5th ed>Dark EldarThe dark eldar 5th ed book is the single best codex GW has ever released, I dont care if it came after 4th ed it is compatible.
>>98623557That sucks anon im sorry time to work on the pile of shame right?
>>98623529>For a unit that just stands on objectives and (if needed) does actions it's wasting everyone's time to roll special weapons separate.Well that's the main problem. With no special weapons that's all ints can do while tacs (or ints with tac loadouts) would be able to do a lot more and plug gaps in your list.
>Limited
>>98623552It's clear at this point shitposter-kun is the Black Legion chaostranny that got BTFO about the codices thing amd never mentally recovered, was so buttoned about it today he (male, will never be a woman) just spent like 15 straight minutes triple-device shitposting on desktop/laptop/phone in a frantic desperate mania while I just stopped giving him (You)s and had comfy chats about hobbying around the holidays and what 4th ed codexes to use. There's no getting rid of that freak at this point, no matter what day, what hours I pop into the thread, he's here starting fights with anyone over anything and resorting to ubersamefagging the moment someone calls him out. It's the saddest thing I've ever seen in 12 years of this general so I'm just going to stop replying to him completely, let him think he's won.
>>98623559Nah. It doesn't make them good mind you but 10th was literally the worst edition to date.
Looking online at tabletop game tables that are warhammer sized and damn they are charging insane prices I guarantee i could build a better table from stuff at Lowes for like 600 bucks including buying the tools to do it
Me? Well, you see, I play SoB, Agents, Eldar, and Guard. I call my collection the "under 50% win rate, bottom third play rate" bunch. The joke is a bit on the nose, but you know how it is. Oh? It looks like SoB have managed to claw their way to a 50.4% since the latest dataslate update, I might have to rename them all now :^)I also play marines so I have something to lend to people or use in demo games, but I figure everyone has some marines and I definitely don't consider them my main army.Here are some of the little buggers now. At least they're doing better than....Agents.
>>98623574one missile launcher isn't doing shit, don't kid yourself
>>98623579Are you the decalfag or just another fregoli delusion sufferer?
>>98623591those bases are magnetized right
>>98623587Just get some foldable table legs and a huge mdf board and you have your table
>>98623598Yeah it's him
>>98623591you better glue those arms back on
>>98623587I bought 3 4'x2' folding tables that I can put away or use for other stuff (one is my painting table currently). Cost like £60.
>>98623601down the road i would like to build one though have a couple ideas like a dice tray on a rail on one side to slide back and forth between players and little qol stuff like that could probably knock it out in a weekend but baby steps
>>98623596No but a combimelta, a meltagun and a multimelta will. Three flamers will. 3 plasmas will. Las/plas will. And if you take only the base free loadout of flamer/missile you still have potshots and a flamer for overwatch that ints simply don't have.
>>98623599Bases: magnetized>>98623608Arms: magnetized we good
>>98623587Man just wait until you see how much regular furniture costs.
>>98623611A big table like a billiards table would be pretty cool to have though would be a conversation piece as much as a playing surface
>>98623587I made my group's table out of my old bed frame and some 2x4s glued up into 4x4s screwed into box legs and an 8x6 plywood sheet, can be disassembled in 30 seconds, weighs about 40 pounds and doesn't shift at all even when my fatass friend leans from one side to the other to grab something>>98623598Stop feeding the trolls
>>98623587I knew an old grog who was in the business of making tables at one stage. Do it, if you have decent woodworking knowledge and some half decent tools it'd be alright I'm sure
>>98623613You should keep it simple and functional or you'll never actually get around to it
What's the better idea: taking some eldar (or perhaps dark eldar) and kitbashing them to all be corsair-y, or chaos space marines kitbashed to all look like proper renegades?
>>98623598>>98623604I know this is some weird attempt to draw me into whatever freak show argument you’ve concocted with this black w/e player but it’s not going to work so continue your scheming with the other lunatic.
>>98623587You can buy a sheet of particle board or a few laminate squares for very little money at a hardware store. Don't buy plywood, you'll have to surface it with a lot more effort involved (or just get splinters all the time).Make edge trim, make some legs, boom table. Tables are very easy, if you have 2 hands you can do it.
>>98623628true but really it would take like 30 seconds to bolt a drawer rail to an edge and then put the little slot on the bottom of a wood box you are right though, im just drinking and daydreaming currently
>>98623464its so weird how literally every other army has absolutely no problem using unique weapons in their standard troop unit, but then when it comes to marines its some kind of tooth pulling torture. ork boyz are part of a horde army, and they have no problem with their rokkit boyz, shoota boyz, and now even have a burna on their team again.
>>98623617cool beans anonnow here's the real questionhow did you go about transferring the texture of the underside of your outdoor glass table onto that model?pffff~ <3
>>98623639everybody hates ork shooting phases because they take 6 years to resolve
>>98623634I would think mdf playing surface and basic 2xwhatevers for the raised edge and legs and then cover everything with faux vinyl wood and then add little qol improvements for warhammer specifically thats literally what 9/10ths of tables and desks are at the end of the day anyway
How heroic space marines are when they're killing vast hordes of aliens like they're no threat at all, and using their super duper mega death guns to kill weak, poorly equipped old veterans fighting with sticks and rocks.
>>98623639My theory is that space marines are the "we need to sell this to Tyrone" army, moreso than anyone else.
I recently googled something about 40k and it led me to a Reddit thread from last year where someone posted a screencap of a post I made here in 2013.I've felt unclean ever since.
>>98623658preach
>>98623652'Old on, 'old on. I get anuvver roll!8th edition Ultramarines with Guilliman was worse. I genuinely considered just telling my opponent to tell me how many models he felt like having me pick up each shooting phase just to make things go faster.
>>98623639>and now even have a burna on their team again.And the 2 nob kombis restored. I was hoping the new intercessor kit would at least come with combis for the sergeant but not even that.
>>98623569Yeap. It'll take me that long to finsh the backlog anyways. Might take on a couple extra jobs and earn that money back. Hopefully the standalone Exodite box will be out (and on sale) so I can get my dinos for reasonable money.
>>98623565Yeah this is pretty much the way to go for codexes. Thing is, part of what makes 3.5/4th so good is also the vast array of other material available, so if you really want to get into it you also want to grab as much as you can of the Chapter Approved books from 2001-2004, the Imperial Armour volumes, Cities of Death, the Citadel Journals and so on.
>>98623661Space Marines were that already. They sold like hotcakes already. They were the prime newfag army already. All of these changes have meant nothing in that regard.
>>98623662What was the post?
>>98623677>>98623661They look cool theres a certain design language they invented that has permeated throughout pop culture it speaks to the subconscious on a primal level and it says >fuckin badass
>>98623668Was that the one that give you zillion shots per models allong with re rolls for every step of the shooting?
>>98623657I was just thinking minimal effort with what I suggestedSomeone who's made more tables than me would probably have better suggestions. I've only built a table for a work/reloading bench and used a 3' laminate square for it (because I needed it to be flat and at least 1" thick), so that's what I'm familar with.
>>98623675Yeh the collection to dig through is really vast, and for the most part its honestly pretty good. One thing you might for instance choose to do is borrow the chaos god specific units from the 4th ed csm book (pleague marines, thousand sons, beserkers, and noise marines) while using the rest of the 3.5 cms book (which doesnt actually have them, at least not how we think of them today). Pretty much all the available material from 3rd all the way to 7th ed is compatible, only needing a cursory level tweaking to make it work.
>>98623691Cringe
>>98623692Yes, Guilliman had a bubble of full hit/wound re-rolls for Ultramarine units (I think other SM just got RR1s), and also IIRC company ancients let units shoot on death 50% of the time (including after killing themselves with plasma). A guy I knew ran Guilliman castle and it was just a fucking horrendous play experience because it was nothing but repeating dice rolls, rerolls, on *their* turn, and then in my turn I'd be punished for shooting them back with *more* rolls and rerolls interrupting my own actions.
>>98623698Re rolls are such an ass mechanic.It was tolerable in older edition because it was just a few weapons and usually it was either the hit or the wound that got a re roll
>>98623697
>>98623652yeah, that’s cause its a horde army with a lot of guns, but no ork player is like “wow, if only I didn’t have rokkit boyz in my army, my 120 boy greentide will go much faster shooting!” and even if they did, they’d understand that’s just the price you pay, and would look at you like a complete retard if you suggested rokkit boyz and big shoota boyz should be squatted in favor of pure tankbustas and flash gitz. and that’s of course just the extreme example. other armies with similar model counts to marines have their troop kits with weapon variety, but don’t have a “6 year long” shooting phase, and they don’t bemoan the fact they have more weapons in their unit.
>>98623694You are completely right here, im kind of more just spitballing ideas about it at the moment I have built a studio desk at one point and while a pain in the ass there is nothing else like having a good piece of furniture YOU built when its done
>>98623711i would say its a dick move to show up with a horde army without the dice to make the rolls more simple
>>98623706Oh okay*ahem*Space marines are like the coolest ever!Big bad Hohnny Space solos the entire universe and doesnt give two craps!Down with xenos!!!!11!11!
>>98623705The Gladiator Lancer can reroll one of EACH of its attack roll phases. They don't even have to be on the same attack, you can do it for any attack in each turn, the only limit is you can only reroll 1 die for each type.The literal text is "you can reroll 1 hit roll, you can reroll 1 wound roll and you can reroll one damage roll."GW seems to want more rerolls, or at the very least think of them as an easy "make this good" for anti-vehicle units like the Lancer.
>>98623722>xenos hands typed this post now type that without crying
>>98623218why is his bolter so small? is he cold?
>>98623735No tears involved here and I don't play xenos actually. What was wrong with my post? I love primaris they look so epic :O
>>98623691>a certain design language they inventedlol Does look cool though.
>>98623758Genetic memory is real
>>98623758Other than the mouth grill nothing else about those look alike.
SUPEISUMARIIIIIIIIIIIIIINES
>>98623765You mean the most iconic part of the helmet
>>98623755shut up idgit
>>98623773>most*only
>>98623765>other than the most iconic partOkay kid
>>98623765lmao okay anon. >>98623764Based.
>>98623765xillennial söyanons didnt like this one iota
>>98623765the Mk7 space marine firstborn helmet being darth vader is just a forced meme, anon.It is like saying every gas mask is the same. It is as lame as it sounds.
>>98623639I'd feel the same way regardless of what army I played. But make up whatever scenario gets you hottest under the collar, champ.
>>98623778Considering it's the only part they changed about primaris helmets.
I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favourite primaris on the Citadel
>>98623791Uh oh, I truly think it's retarded yet still trying to communicate
>marines?>inspired by star wars?>no way
>>98623786reminded me of one of the most cursed things out there
>>98623789Funny how absolutely no one says boyz deserve to be replaced by krumpinator squads with nothing but shootas for the sin of getting special weapons but it does happen with tacticals. Or that trukks should be removed from existance because they clearly can't physically hold 12 models in them but that has been said about the rhino too. Just a bunch of retarded reasons to hate on classic units.
nuthin' more to it
>>98623805>>98623796>>98623782still one of the funniest videos on the internet rip nerd crew https://youtu.be/FVzc20Bm8Xo
>>98623804orks don't get new weapons invented every other saturday morning that the fanbase expects to be retroactively added as special and heavy weapons to every kit that can have special or heavy weaponsmarines do, so marines get the weapons separated into squads so gw can churn out the stuff whenever and however without bothering to update the tacticals every time
>>98623789>brainlet marinefag would be a brainlet if he played another armyyeah, that’s what I was saying. you have trouble playing marines with special wargear while everyone else in different armies uses special wargear all the time no problem.
Weird question but is there antimatter in 40k? How does it interact with warp stuff?
>>98623819genuinely why do astartes piss so many people off
>>98623825it insist upon itself.
>>98623822yessame way as matter, unless the demon manifests as an antimatter demon
>>98623831ok how u know?
>>98623817This is bullshit. The weapons tacs and devs have had access to haven't changed since 2ed with the exception of adding gravs. And guess what? They added burnas to boyz.
Would you a keeper of secrets?Be honest.
>>98623842It's a secret.
>>98623834Do any weapons in 40k work off of antimatter? Or is that a narrative scale exterminatius thing?
>>98623842idk what that is but considering the imperiums proclivity for uh horrificly mutilating its subjects for a specific role im gonna have to pass
>>98623840>this is bullshit >with the exception oftry to guess the number of weapons gw made for primaristry to guess the percentage of those weapons that the fans want to have available at any moment try asking the sm2 players what they think of your percentage
>>98623842I don't think I'd get a choice.
>>98623859Using a problem created by primaris as justification for making primaris in the first place is stupid as hell, anon.
orks are dim witted whos entire ethos is just picking up whatever they stole from the battlefield and integrating it into their own army now there’s an argument to be made why there arent ork battlesuits that were harvested from the tau or whatever, but considering that orks have consistently been in the top 5 at tournaments theres no reason to give them MORE guns and ways to win theyre already borderline game breaking as it is
>>98623854I believe necrons, dark eldar, tau and votann have themthe imperials too if we count conversion beamersit's not a big deal because it's always in miniscule quantities to have a controlled weapon
>>98623854the imperium has been stuck in a feedback loop of religious zeal, crusades and pertinence for thousands of years at this point it makes sense for them not to even consider it from a lore perspective at least, the whole point of the story at large is theyre the big dick on the block but are stagnant
playing a game against orks :D next week
>>98623865>Using a problem created by primarisno, gw wanted to churn out new toys, primaris have no agency and aren't the cause of gw churning out the new toys, gw would have churned out new toys even if they stuck with manlets.remember centurions?remember grav guns?remember all the flyers?did you notice how they popped up when gw was scraping for something new to throw to the paypigs?the problem was that they needed marines to sell more and this was it
>>98623880whys that one feller green?
>>98623883>publicly traded company ultimately wants to make money by emphasizing their core IP
>>98623796huh neat. You could probably fit first born pauldrons right on that guy.
>>98623825I’m mostly laughing at the state of them, and how their fans will act like its completely normal for an army to be like this, and even act like its a good thing. I’ll admit there is a little contempt though.
>>98623825I think anyone who likes marines has shit taste and any marine release gw does is a waste of resources.It just so happens that the majority of people are npcs with shit taste.
>>98623895It is a good thing though variety is the spice of life if the end user wasnt satisfied they wouldnt do it GW gives concessions though which is more than 99 percent of companies, like how they said theyre developing a firm ruleset for legends after the recent backlash people dont give them enough credit, not dickriding them because i agree the prices are TOO DAMN HIGH but it really could be a lot worse this isnt a game where they can send out a free patch to change things, you have to concede that things have to change at some point and that means you might have to buy and paint new things
>>98623062does he get made fun of for using a girl's bolter
>>98623886that was my early tau scheme before i settled on yellow brown and white
>>98623899>i think [X] doubt
What kind of slurs might a Chaos Space Marine use to describe Regular Space Marines, Sisters of Battle and Admech? I am trying to fluff out some of my CSM armies / squads and wanted to write some tid bits.
>>98623899>a waste of resources.lol lmao They're a toy company you idiot.
>>98623587The people who would buy this either do not have the space for woodworking or can simply afford to buy the table and not spend their time building one.I kinda want to make my own though...
>>98623906wasnt that the OG box color scheme for tau pretty based even though i would guess that the color scheme is entirely based on the impending invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 lol (tau debuted in October 2001, did they change the color scheme to match the desert camo????)
>>98623871>now there’s an argument to be made why there arent ork battlesuits that were harvested from the tauthis is probably the only time I can shoehorn my kitbash idea, but I want to make a warboss that uses a bunch of my firewarrior/pathfinder bits. so the gun will be the standard plasma gun, his face will have a fire warrior helmet, and his axe will be replaced with a jury rigged shield drone he punches people with. HOWEVER, should I get rid of the banner, and replace it with an orkified little shield drone hovering above him, or keep the banner and replace the skull with a tau skull/helmet?
>>98623908Yeah, that's why I had an opinion while you echoed a meme because that opinion hurt you.Totally not npc behaviour.
>>98623880very sovlful tau fren
>>98623933Your entire argument boils down to >thing popular = bad dont get mad at me for boiling it down to its component parts, you cant even elucidate your own opinion beyond blind seethe
>>98623913Regular marines>loyalist running dogs >thinbloods, iirc this is in the nightlord series >cousin, to face as ironic insult >degenerates >throne sniffers SoB>boltwhores, say it a bit fast >women Admech>bots >cogfuckers
>>98623883>the problem was that they needed marines to sell more and this was itAll they had to do was scale up the firstborn designs to the primaris proportions without all of the stupid ways they changed the design of the armour/weapons and it would have sold 1.5x-2x what primaris did.
>>98623679cringy Lorgar greentext that I'm too ashamed to share
When will GSC get a centerpiece model?
>>98623955Hopefully fucking never, one of the most kino things about them is that they're all /yourdudes/ and expendable and don't have any named characters or giant centerpieces.
>>98623960Idk itd be cool if they had the optionEspecially since they kind of suck
>>98623960Definitely a unique thing about them and totally unrelated to them being the least popular faction in the game.
>>98623899Space marines are most of the setting and you like the setting enough to be here so you have shit taste lol
>>98623913Every insult a chaos worshipper would have is a form of projection or comes from the point of view of slave morality.So imperials are slaves, puppets, and toys even though chaosfags are the slaves to darkness.Chaosfags will think that the miracles the sisters of battle manifest are part of their own warp metaphysics, despite what imperial believes, so they'll call them witches and corpse-hosts.Chaosfags may think form of transhumanism other than the path to glory through chaos to be dishonourable, cowardly and ultimately a pale imitation, tech priests would be akin to delusional people, and deride those mortal parts they still have to possess, morsels.
>>98623939No, it doesn't, I said they are popular despite being bad, not that they're bad because they're popular or popular because they're bad.Maybe get your handler to teach you to read sometimes.
>>98623974They're one of the least popular factions because they are a super-expensive horde army that is also really difficult to paint and have been fucked over by the rules-writers on top of that.But one of the absolute best things about them is how they scratch that itch for the faceless underdogs. When they first came back at the end of 7th it was a time when the game had become absolute cancer because everyone was spamming shit like super-heavies, flyers, D-weapons, and named character death stars.GSC came out with>no superheavy>no flyers>no D weapons>no named charactersAnd yet if played well they were still shitting all over those meta armies purely through finesse and a few cool psychic powers and bits of wargear, so you were mogging these gay deathstars and giant knights and shit by just swarming them with 20 billy joe bob bulbous-headed mutant retards with buzzsaws and sticks of dynamite and then mind-controlling your opponents Wraithknight with your Magus and shooting his two other most expensive units with his own D-cannons. Literally designed to be pure SOVL and troll the soulless toxic spam lists of the era. Kino of the highest degree.
>>98623982my heckin' fire warriorinos are literally the main characters of all warhammer, wdym??????
>>98624002nta but youre wrong space marines are dope you probably just have bad taste
>>98623974Kek
>>98623950that wouldn't have been enough primaris sell more because give more shit for paypigs to buyit's not rocket science
>>98624003>t.nogames
>>98623982actually no, my ork boyz going on their WAAAGH are most of the setting.TOTAL ORK DOMINATION
>>98624012Elaborate
>>98623955I will keep saying that they should get a big drill vehicle that vaguely imitates a dune sandwormand/or one special character on a biological sandworm, if they're feeling frisky enough to rip off dune even more directly
Well that was a fun distraction. It's only the 4th and my collage project is done. Back to the grind.
>>98624024That's kinda lame, they don't need something that's a 1:1 ripoff of Dune. A plastic Termite Assault Drill would be acceptable though. Has Horus Heresy not done that already?
>>98624005If they aren't then explain this!
>>98624024Like the Termite?
>>98624035This should be an AdMech unit.
>>98624002unc just cant stop getting btfo’d
>>98624046Genuinely funny bait, I hope he replies angrily
>>98624032The mechanical drill remains my first suggestion as well, but a dude riding atop a worm is a fucking cool look and it gets even better when it's paired with the visual of worms emerging from the planet in parallel with the hive ships of similar designs descending from the sky.As above so below and all that jazz.maybe just one smallish worm rider.
>>98623955Nigga wtf do you think the broodlord is?
>>98624052A character leader for an expendable Tyranid unit?
>>98624051I think you should just convert your own Primus riding a Mawloc or something, all the parts are there for you, it doesn't need to be an official model/named guy in the lore
>>98624035cross that with the SoS vehicle, and yes
>>98624052Literally not a GSC unit? lmao
Thinkin bout buyin a metal hive tyrant. But the plastic one looks almost identical. Is it worth it?
>>98624060I don't need it per se, would be cooler if it was, 's what I'm saying
>>98624052Did you mean the patriarch?
>>98624066No, use the plastic one, also the metal is slightly thinner.
>>98624073TY, saw a mutual on twitter get one, and I want a different one in case I ever run two, but yeah I think I’ll just try my hand at reposing another plastic one.
>>98624066I think the metal one looks slightly better but it's to such a small degree it's not really worth it.
>>98624066I have had both, it's the most faithful conversion from metal to plastic gw has ever done, just don't bother with the metal one unless you like the weight.Also this is >>98624073 is true, the small difference in proportions triggered by autism so much that I ended up forcing the significantly heavier metal torso onto the wobbly plastic flyrant tail rather than the most sensible thing of using it for the one on foot.
It's okay to like marines. Just acknowledge that you're playing the posterboy faction that gets all the attention.It's okay to not like marines. Just acknowledge that it's no excuse to be an annoying faglord.
>>98624130[autistic screeching]
>>98624130I think marines are extremely cool but they're still slightly too overfocused by GW and the game, lore, and marines themselves were all better when less time was spent wanking that one particular faction and it was spread a bit more between everybody.
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>>98624072>>98624059>>98624063The patriarch is literally a broodlord, they are the same thing. The gsc calls it a patriarch, the imperium calls it a broodlord.It hasnt been just a big fat guy since like 4th ed.
>>98621709>playing the latest "patch" and pickup games with randos like its some shitty live service game instead of just playing your favourite edition with the lads
