Move Your Dead Bones EditionPrevious: >>98624274>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: What's your reanimator deck?
>TQClosest I have is Grub I guess, but I don't think she really counts.
Gay Bolas is here.
>>98629462you posted it
>>98629462>TQ:Love this guy. His ability to turn any lifelink creature into a growing threat means I can play a super slow grindy stax gameplan and he can easily bring back hatebears. My most played deck by far, I probably have 50+ games on it now.
>>98629394People you play with will ask “why aren’t you running smothering tithe in your belladonna deck” and regardless of your answer they will view you as a bitch with a ripe anus ready to be raped. You will be pubstomped every night until you harden the fuck up and use the cards you’re afraid to use because they’re “uncomfy”.
>>98629509>Your belladonna deckWhen you seethe for insult you can't even read properly.
All the dudes at my LGS have caught on to just how busted tainted pact is and put it in all their black decks nowLike, holy shit, why is this card not banned or even gc'd?
Can this deck hang at Bracket 3? Wanted to build a The Wanderer tribal with a minor Kamigawa subtheme.https://moxfield.com/decks/z7hpw8bsLUKZ3h3qGA2kgw
>>98629462>TQ: What's your reanimator deck?Pic related. Not a throw shit into your graveyard and reanimate it deck, even thought there is a little of that. More of a play a creature, get value, boardwipe, and bring it back for more value.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98629479Thank you based king
>>98629523this is how i figured out its not gc'd. i should use this with scouting trek to turn my deck into pure gas once i have enough lands.
>>98629523"Dude what if the card I want is on the bottom?"
>cast my counter before waiting for my Ward trigger to resolve
>>98629544You'll be stopped the moment you run into your second Swamp.
>>98629554What if I just run only 1 of each basic because statistically even with hate options like Blood Moon available, an extremely greedy manabase is still stronger than the tradeoff? (As Legacy and Modern demonstrate)
>>98626543please, what can i cut for more lands?
>>98629563Do you really need storm cards if you decks isn't really planning on winning via storming off
>>98629544>surely you have other cards in the deck that functionally do the same thing that just happen to have different names right
>>98629593>Why would I run more than two draw sources? That sounds like cEDH stuff.
>TQI like Rats
>>98629462>TQSefris. I love this bald bitch. The reanimation loops you can end up with while dungeon speedrunning are really fun.
>>98629507Sounds cool, post your list?
>>98629563Cut Teferi. That isn't helping you any. I'm also not really sure what the Volatile Stormdrake is doing for you. Pretty much all the faggy cards like Blind Obedience, Painful Quandary, and Vile Consumption.
>>98629644NTA but Blind Obedience is fair magic
>>98629592There isn't like only one? That's mostly to protect my commander or the stuff i'm casting...>>98629644Yeah the volatile wasn't doing much...>Pretty much all the faggy cards like Blind Obedience, Painful Quandary, and Vile Consumption.Blind obedience might be it... but i'm not sure since it heals you 3 life everytime. For the other two isn't painful like almost insta win if no one can remove it? and vile consumption it's also good to have everyone going lower each time....
>>98627291they must have this sign at that LGS (pic rel). that said, does YOUR LGS (local game store, not gun store) infringe on your 2nd amendment rights? non-Americans need not reply
>>98629624I built this crappy list https://moxfield.com/decks/QOP2dYgfCE2CXPvMJ2XPJQ show me yours anon
>>98629659WE MUST BANG BANG
>>98629629
>>98628390this has been debunked (your entire post)
>>98629694Too many for a season one. Look at Avatar, They started with 3, then got a 4th and finally towards the end a 5th.
>>98629659The sign of a true Friendly Local Game Store (literally)
>>98629659I have never seen a non-cop/security guard with a gun in my life.
>>98629707thats a weird way to phrase that. are you saying you have never seen a regular Joe walking around with a gun on his hip in public? and you ARE American right (see post above that said non-Americans need not apply)I really have only ever saw randos with a handgun on their hip at random gas stations in Georgia off i75 or i95. but more states recognize constitutional carry and I only started recently going to LGS' so I have yet to see it here. a lot more people especially older dudes carry concealed. especially if you see 50+ y/os who play war games at the LGS. those dudes pack heat and you'd never know it and hopefully never have to find out. but I just thought it was a fun sign to see really
>>98627062speaking truth to power here>>98627145"what brackets are you guys playing" – "oh I dunno, we don't really do brackets its mid to higher power...so anyway t2, mountain, sol ring, blood moon...oh really thats what you call 'bracket 4' ?...huh...interesting. oh all your lands are mountains and you need green blue and white?? bummer" (this is called a "teachable moment" for non-retardando's)>>98625077we call those big butts in these parts
>>98629771Don't join random pods
>>98629771>we call those big butts in these partsbut do they have buttbreathing
lots of fan fiction in this thread.
>>98629462>TQIt’s thematic too. All the creatures are the same types as those found in the Chaos Shrine from FF1. Heavy on draw discard like Goblin Lore.
>>98629462I wish I had this. The art is beautiful.
>TQI know she is “WE WUZ GREEKS N’ SHIEEEEET” but I genuinely love flooding the board with six gorillion token doubler zombies
>>98629880prove it
>>98629894it should cost 2 less and be any graveyard, actually it should target your opponent's rhystic on the battlefield
>>98629895I’m currently away until Wednesday, but I will post it then.
>>98629910big if true
>>98629462
>>98629462>TQI haven't played it in ages.
>>98629527I probably should've attached an image
>>98629462>TQdepends on your definition of reanimation.
>>98629962lumra at home
>>98629978he cute
>>98629462>tqReanimate & exile then bounce, cast, repeat
>>98630052what are the best uses for him? imo ETB and unblockable creatures
>Going through my decks>Several of the printings have risen past the dollar value I will use and several others are only a dollar or two below it.Having autism sucks.
>>98630077Wha? What sort of faggot autism makes you stop using a card based on value? Worry that it will get damaged? Double sleeve your shit, nigga.
>>98630077>AutismYou mean retardation.
>>98630077>past the dollar value I will useDo people actually do this? What's the cut off? Why? This is so stupid I'm struggling to understand
>>98629462>tqTasigur.The quality of reanimation spells feels way too varied to not want a backup. Reanimate, life//death, dance of the dead, animate dead, and persist are the cream of the crop. Necromancy, exhume, and metamorphisis fanatic (if you are running topdeck tutors) are all definitely worth running. Past that feels pretty into the weeds. Shallow grave effects don't feel worthwhile.Tasigur adds neoform, birthing pod, eldritch evolution, metamorphisis, sacrifice, and soldevi adnate as ways to speed reanimation targets out if you fill your graveyard enough for a cheap tasigur.
>>98629707>be yuropoor>had never seen a gun in real life>eventually spend a couple of months in Toronto>on my second day there, take the subway>walking up the stairs out of the station into the city proper>first thing I see is 3 angry SWAT dudes standing on top of the stairwell, all with fuckhueg shotguns and bullets tied all over the place>tfw someone had threatened to bomb the subway (while I was on it, yay!) so they were scanning all existsI felt very American all of the sudden
>>98630056I go ETBs, but where he really shines is his ability to recur "if you cast from your hand" abilities like the myojin several times per turn. Had to take out a fair number of cards due to assmad, you build like a dickhead he can just lock opponents out of the game (2 mana asymmetric boardwipes, hand discards, etc).
>>98630309Theeere he goesThere he goes again
>>98629479>>98629535Back to lebbit with your forced lebbit meme, samefag.
>>98630378not so fast
>opponent swings with gishath with double strike>I'm done to 5 hp and 20 commander damage >opponent has 10+ huge dinosaurs on the field>about to win on next turn with etrata and roaming throne triggers>he has no mana left except colorless from basalt monolith>last card he reveals from gish is a dinosaur that let's him destroy an artifact by sacrificing it and paying 1 manaI was platinum mad. I swear I never get so lucky to pull the exact card I need at the last possible moment but everyone else does.
>>98629462>TQTaken the deck apart since to build new ones, but it was a fun one.
>TQyea I have a braids reanimator built with (mostly) stuff from my bindersit's pretty fun to play once in a while
What are some fun Dinosaur commanders that arent the Big 3 of Pantz, Zacama, and Gishath?
>>98630952Etali Gruul, Thrasta storm
>>98630918>repeatable harrow in blueholy moly
>>98630952indo rex. been like my favorite commander this past month
>>98630952Indoraptor is actually really deadly.
>>98631011its absolute dog shit
>>98631017For you.
>>98631017>Islands enter untappedGood enough for monoblue.
>>98629978The wanderer is cute CUTE
>TQThis was originally a secret santa decklist during lockdown, but I later rebuilt it myself and have been upgrading it since
>>98631012Damn what a cool effect
Anyone have or play against an interesting Jorn deck? Usually hate building anything tribal since it's so formulaic, but the special art kaldheim is so pretty.
>>98631155Never even knew this guy existed til now despite a nice effect. Just goes to show how prohibitive getting enough snow lands is unless you get fakes (I keep considering doing so but haven't made a big proxy order in a while)
>>98631155Could do a pump kinda deck. Play all your permanents, then on the untap/attack throw out giant growth and such
>>98631127especially if you end up with these in hand (by tutoring, fauna shaman, Survival of the Fittest etc; pic rel. just need to make sure you've got some other donkers on the board like Llanowar elves or saproling tokens so hes not the target of a SAC effectnotably theres no double strike creatures in that color combination though to pitch
Isn't there a card similar to this one except it creates 1/1 illusion tokens instead of faeries? The art on it was a crystal wall. I've been searching for hours and can't find it.
take note: he did not say it's impossibleand given his track record about UB hitting standard, i reckon its coming is nigh
>>98631228I've really wanted to try and make something similar with Eater of Virtue and Odric but just haven't had the time to sit down and hammer things out, but i love keyword soup kinda deals. I might have to give the jurassic period a shot sometime in the near future
>>98629707Any man with a fanny pack in the south has a gun in it, anon.
>>98629462This nigga. I got some silliness to get around saccing anything myself, and reanimate stuff I buried alive or cool creatures my opponents sac/discard.
>>98629707>used to live in Appalachia >LGS was off the side of a mountain road with basically zero traffic during FNM hours>owner and a couple of his buddies used to shoot at targets outside after FNM>once saw a dude swap a rifle for a couple boxes of Innistrad This was over a decade ago and the LGS has since closed, but I'm sure this kind of shit still happens in redneck country.
>>98631353I've got a guy who pays me in moonshine for building him budget decks.
How autistic is it to never use tap lands in your mana base? If I'm playing a 2 color deck, the only ones I'll use are the "this land enters tapped unless you have 2 or more lands/basic lands."
>>98631316its really fun. I like it. I do it as a mid power deck without any "game changers" but putting in rhystic, cyc rift and a proxy of Survival of the Fittest makes it super insane. then add stuff like pic rel to boost up the Rex and you've got a monster deck
>>98631423Not very autistic given you run checklands. I love battle-lands. Usually those + check lands are enough with the rest being basics.
>>98631423thats not autistic its called having a good mana base. people only do tap lands because of money reasons except for some utility cases like surveil lands and triomes that said for 2 colors you can run mostly basics and still do pretty good. I last minute threw together a red black smaug deck that I was building as a mono red artifacts deck and then finished it up with some black spells and swamps except all my good red black duals are in another deck. it actually plays extremely well.
>>98631444That's what I do too. If my deck has 35 lands, like 25 of them are basics. The last 10 are 2 color lands and stuff like command tower, exotic orchard, and so on.
>>98629462>TQChainer is my favorite
>>98631471>If my deck has 35 landsShould run 38 at least. But it should be 40.
>>98631514>38 to 40If you're ramping like a motherfucker and have huge cmc stuff, sure. If your biggest spell is like 4cmc, you don't need that many lands if you're also running some rocks and dorks.
>>98630378Trying too hard to fit in
>>98631286You mean Summoner's Bane?It's not very good.https://scryfall.com/search?q=otag%3Acounterspell+o%3Acreate+o%3Acreature&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
>>98631524Wrong actually. Always hit land drop no matter what and minimize the number of good curve hands you lose to land-screw. You cut ramp before you cut lands (lands are free ramp)
>>98631565Wouldn’t the ideal method be to calculate the probability based on number of lands and the mana and coloured mana values of the cards in your deck. Like if you’re playing Rakdos with a 70/30 black to red bias you don’t need as much red mana.
>>9863151437 is a sweet spot for me. someone on the last thread showed the mathematical probabilities its like less than 2% difference between a 3 land hand and/or drawing a 4th land
>>98631423I just use verges, filters and basics unless there’s some very quirky lands or good legendary lands. Don’t forget pathway lands, people always seem to leave those out.
>all these people arguing about the land countMeanwhile my Y'Shtola deck runs like a well oiled machine with 30 lands and 4 MDFC cards
>>98631609
My shilgengar deck has consistently underperformed, looking for something to do with the pile of angels, demons, and orzhov shit once I probably take it apart.
>>98631654Get some dragons and red goodstuff and run Kaalia.
>guy mills a cradle>He's complaining >Look at hand >Have this in my deck for memes with some of my own utility lands>Copy his cradle with itI'm still hard thinking about it 2 days later
>>98629659
Is it too early to start making the Christmas deck?
>>98631772>Santa>humanThat fat fuck is a fae.
>>98631780 It’s an existing card
>>98631654Post list?
>>98631783I didn't read the rules box. I'd recognize the gay kings' rules anywhere.I guess you should make it Santa and Mr. Claus...
>>98631772>>98631783I don't care what they teach you in school, santa claus was a gay bipoc couple
How op is this
>>98631878As someone who plays with Eldrazi and green shit, I hate itGood job
>>98631893I made my friend rage quit and used backlash + radiate on his craterhoof before attack step. Killed the infect player too
>>98631878>8 manaWotC probably wouldn't print it because they've generally moved away from sorceries/instants that completely flip the game on resolution (even cards like the ultimatums generally don't turn a board of nothing into a win), but I don't think it would be overpowered. It would just be kinda unfun because of how limited counterplay options are.
Why does red always get the best "I win" cards that don't require you to even have a board state. First Insurrection for 8 mana and now this.
>>98632016seeing rowan reminds me just how fucked jace was as wotc is too busy promoting wahmens and lqbtq to even think about their actual protagonist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_IOy4nYuxsYou now remember that commander damage is a thing.
>>98632016Because this one takes 26 mana. Go ahead and ignore ToH though that has a 3:1 rate instead of 5:3.
>>98632024>You now remember that commander damage is a thing.so why should we remove it?
>>98632016My fave is Repercussion + Blas Act, not having a board actually saves you from it lmao
>>98632033I'm too lazy to track it and it's my opponent's job to keep track of it if I kill them with it.
>>98632033Because dealing 21 damage is boring when you can deal 600.
>>98632016Hmm I shall put this with Lucia Kane.
>>98632033Because we need to get rid of all the gimmicks. No more commander damage and no more color identity rules.
>>98632036>not having a board actually saves you from it lmaoIt doesn't matter if you have a board or not, if its going to kill all other players, to just stack the triggers so yours are last and they all die and you win before yours even proc.
>>98632016>>98632032>75 damage to the face for 11 manaShow a single spell that does that for a lower rate.
>>98632061Torment of Hailfire.
>>98632060Oh you can do that? I thought all damage occurs simultaneously
>>98632061>Anon failed math classFor 11 mana you only get 15 damage.
>>98632042>>98632049>i'm too lazy to track it!>i can't handle 'gimmicks' (even though there's still infect and energy and experience counters etc)sounds like you guys don't have edh apps that handle all these, yet more proof that edh players don't have phones!
>>98632068Yeah, the damage from act does out at the same time, but repercussions adds triggers to the stack for each creature dealt damage.
>>98632077If EDH players knew how to use their phones they would be playing a better game.
>>98632077I turn off my government spying device when playing.
>>98632075On up to 5 targets. They can all be the same target.>>98632064That's black though, and not really a direct damage spell, if someone has enough tokens for example, but good point.
>>986320891. You have 3 targets.2. They must all be different targets as the word "target" only appears once. This is old terminology so you can't do stuff like have Fireball target the same thing multiple times to adjust the damage distribution.
>>98631878better than insurrection / 10
I wish Balefang had a second color...
>>98631878>Whack ass Rakdos Charm for tall boardsI like it a lot, the untapped clause is doing a lot of heavy lifting here, it only really punishes people who try to keep up blockers so people who swing out go untouched, very Rakdos design, no notes.What did you use to make this CaC? The one I use sucks at exporting the image in a nice way
>>98632224>On beginning of combat, I cast fuckass cardYeah sure bro. Attacking really stops it.
>>98632233>instantOh yeah nvm this needs to be a sorcery for sure. It read like one so I didn't even think of someone making it an instant since that'd be insane. I get it's 8mana but it's a fog on crack if you just do it during combat and encourges shitty play patterns of just... not putting out a board so you don't get blown up by this.It'd be fine as a sorcery, instant seems pretty pushed and inelegant, Red and Black shouldn't be able to tap down an entire board at instant speed like this.
>>98632244The original is an Instant which is why I guess he chose to keep it that way
>>98632256There's also a pretty big gap between 1 target and unlimited targets, as Cyclonic Rift and Vandalblast have demonstrated.
>>98630056Secret commanders
>>98632256Single tap down is fine, comparing it to what a black card does on it's own (killing it), swapping the kill effect for burn is a good red spin since tapping it lets your shit get through, but Black doesn't really get instant speed "mass removal" and Red's equivalent of that are all X spells that are symmetrical. If you wanted this to stay an instant it would probably have to be an X spell so you can't just nuke everything to make the way for your untap.
>>98632256Ahhh I've killed way too many people with this card
Started playing with my friends a month or so ago with standard precons. Everyone is now buying extra precons and cards to upgrade their original ones. Im glad my friends are having fun. Got this from my LGS on the low, I love izzit. What funny cards can I combo with this+ Rootha (prismari artistry) for fun?
>>98632287>What cards can I combo with 2 extra combats?Attackers.
>>98631878
>>98631540Yeah, that was the one. Thank you.
Wanna know what gets on my nerves? When people act passive-aggressive about having to track commander-damage. Or when someone asks me to track my commander-damage against them.
What's the point of panoptic mirror being a gc when all the broken things it can do are banned in b1-3 anyway
>>98632334You're the one that wants the wincon. You track it.
>>98632341Why is Coalition Victory a GC when it's not even top 1000 cards in b2?
>>98632341Why did they remove kinnan from the gc list despite it being the best non-partner commander of all time?
>>98632089>>98632107>turn 1>play my mountain >drop this>discard my hand, targeting you 6 times for 6 damage eachGG.
>>98632365>Still on 4 healthEnough to do my power
My gift bundle got delayed another 2½ weeks at my LGS bc of WotC.I'm pretty excited because it's my first major product ever (not counting single packs or precons)
>>98624306mtg players love to make a new format. Turns out that there aren't enough people to make a non-ub format. An extremely vocal minority on the internet. That's it.LMAO
>>98632341>>98632346blame sheldon for his retarded decision in the past>>98632360gavin didn't want precedent to be set wherein casuals can just whine that 'X commander is broken please ban' whenever they get stomped
>>98632395Magic as a whole has a very small playerbase relative to the revenue it brings in. That's why I find it so puzzling that there's this mentality of repeatedly making new formats when even mainline ones like Pioneer are struggling from neglect. Hell, the whole reason Modern was more popular than Legacy is because by the time Modern rolled around, Legacy and Vintage were already unaffordable for most people. In practice Magic never really had more than 2-3 formats at any time because while dozens existed on paper, people only ever played a few of them.
>>98632077>That game came out >Mobile Diablo was a gigantic hit >Turns out that people do have phones Any commanders for this feel?
>>98632403So why are Tergrid and Grand Arbiter still GCs if they're weaker than Kinnan?
>>98632393I scoop.
>>98632417They ended up caving and also releasing it on PC.
>>98631314he gave a stronger no about madness when he already knew it was a yes. hairy shitter UB is basically confirmed.
>>98632422gavin didn't want precedent to be set wherein casuals can just whine that 'X commander is broken please ban' whenever they get stomped
>>98632422>So why are Tergrid and Grand Arbiter still GCsthey really shouldn't be imo, bracket 2 can handle it especially when wotc was simultaneously printing precons that currently stomp on the average deck
>>98632469That doesn't answer why 2 commanders are still GCs.
>>98629523Are they and you retarded? Anyway Pact and Consultation should be banned already. Force cedh to establish itself as a separate format.
>>98632478I'm gonna spoil it for you bro Gavin is a fucking retard and constantly contradicts himself
>>98632344Do you track the poison counters that you have put on other players?
>>98632477Do you think stuff like Kinnan Winota TnK Gruultali Vivi can be valid in B2 or are some commanders kinda too toxic for the lower level
>run gold border Plains in my deck for aesthetics>pricier than regular Plains btw>play it at lgs>"sorry bro those aren't legal cards, you can't play that deck"
>>98632365The same permanent or player can’t be targeted more than once.
>someone asked me and friend to rein in a guy who's been pubstomping their lgs tables and generally being sweaty>sends me a sample decklist>its running more than 100 cards with Ryu and Ken as partner commandersI get that its for the flavor one but having an illegal setup right from the get-go has me going hmm. Should we entertain this guy or have him rework the deck?
>>98632549what kind of cosmic autist did you meet to rant about a plains?
>>98632524That's not how it works lil bro you're not going to stop Spike from figuring out your format just because you put a casual label on it and asked him to pretty please play a different one.
>>98632533No because I don't play proliferate poison like a retard. Your wincon. You track it.
>>98632544they can be valid for b2 especially when a competent pod will focus on them as such commanders have a target on their heads, and really no matter what you do there will always be a 'top strategy' even for low powered brackets
>>98632571This is the doofus formats for retards but basic deckbuilding rules should still apply.
>>98632582They really aren't. If the answer is "Play 3v1 and never let the commander resolve" then it's just a problem commander.
are you interested in these? I'll buy the black one because Gisa is bae and I wanted to start building a zombie deck anyways
>>98632607Is there a deck list for these?
>>98632614not yet, the decklists should be out on 15
>>98632365Glok the Stormwatcher card when?
>>98632624Ah cool. The Giada one has me curious but I feel like there's no chance it'll include stuff like Battle Angels of Tyr, Starnheim Aspirant, Avacyn, or Brisela
>>98632607I might check out the dragon or dinos one the problem is I already have a pretty much maxed out collection for each of those tribes and have no interest otherwise. It'd just be for the staples.
>>98632591>why are you running a jank commander if you're not trying to hide your 99 via smol beaning>why are you running a jank list vs a vivi kinnan and winota pod where everyone knows what their 99 essentially will be
>>98632640yeah, it's unlikely it'll have them, maybe just Starnheim Aspirant
>>98631739this didn't happen
what's the most smallbeaney commander out there?
>>98632607I am a thrifty bastard, and price of product keeps rising. As such, I won't buy any precon unless I am 10/10 excited for it. And these foundation precons "ain't it" for me.
>>98632715
>>98632607what the FUCK Giada Zettai ryōiki????????
>>98632715Jasmine Boreal with vanilla creatures.
>>98632744Be better if it didnt look like a man in drag
It continues to battle me that Panoptic Mirror got banned for creating unfun gamestates while picrel got ignored despite doing the exact same thing and actually being good.
>>98632805thanks sheldon!
>>98632805that's the thing, the banlist was supposed to be a signpost of which kinds of cards you shouldn't play, but people will always only go by the letter of the law
>>98632805Heh.
>>98632853You cannot spree on a free cast, chuddy
>>98632844>Format run by a judge>Expects players to go off vibesI don't know how you could have been a judge for that era of Magic where cheating was absolutely constant and drawn the conclusion that signposting would work.
>>98632863yes he can If an effect allows you to cast a spell with spree “without paying its mana cost,” you must still choose at least one mode and pay the associated additional costs.
>>98632863You literally can. Its the same as kicker, its not an alternate casting cost, its an additional cost.
>>98632904>>98632877Is there a Commander that cares about Spree cards stuff like Verazol is for Kicker and that one chick for Cycling
>>98632953nope
I want to build a pure chaos deck with this asshole. So far I can think of>Warp World>Possibility Storm>Confusion in the Ranks>Krark>ApocalypseWhat other bullshit annoying chaos effects are there
>>98633040Capricious EfreetChaos WandWand of WonderChef's Kiss
>>98633040Daring today aren't we?Just make sure to build it with a way to win. Playing a "chaos" deck without an actual gameplan is worse for a pod than an empty chair.
>>98632867>I don't know how you could have been a judge for that era of Magic where cheating was absolutely constant and drawn the conclusion that signposting would work.it IS funny how sheldon thought exactly like that huh, right down to thinking that all players would be aligned and that it is mtg's best long term interest that people just live in their bubbles with whatever rule zeros they think of in their basementsthe irony is palpable
>>98633040Reality ScrambleDeck of Many ThingsStitch in Time
>>98632863They're additional costs, not alternative costs, so you can. You just need to pay the spree costs.
>>98633070Okay but what do I do if my pods keep bitching at me for constantly winning b3 games even though their decks are horrible and they make no effort to improve their builds
>>98633070I have enough decks that are good at winning. This I want to be an experiment, where the only way I can win is piecing together something with other people's cards I get from Malcolm. It probably isn't particularly original but the games it will create seems unique compared to my other decks.
>>98633094Yeah I can easily curb stomp my friends with a min-maxed deck if I wanted to and I even have several. Lately I've had fun building weak decks or weird decks so playing against my friends is more of a challenge.I never really go to the LGS because too many anti-social and smelly weirdos, so my meta is my friend group and I'm cool with that.
>>98633094downgrade your deck, duhwhat commanders do you run? yshtola?
>>98629530Nice deck!
>>98633094>even though their decks are horrible and they make no effort to improve their buildsGod I know the fucking pain. I built optimized ~$50 decks that just fucking stomp my friends $200+ staple piles because I, gasp!, put enough card draw/ramp/synergy pieces to have a good game flow. Meanwhile they're playing "draw, go" from turn 4-5 and onward
>>98633114>what commanders do you run?This is my commander that gets the most hate (tq related)Apparently a simple ass reanimator deck full of growing stompies is too powerful for the b3 tables
>>98633156>>98633114
>>98633156>>98633170huh, guess they're just meh playersand another proof that the bracket system doesn't work
>>98633094Build a slightly worse deck with some fun theme to it? God I hate autistic people.
>>98633170no leotard no buy
>>98633183there will always be scrubs and weak decks no matter what system you have in your head sonny jimas a funny exercise tell us your perfect system and watch us break it in two
>>98632863>Be wrong while insulting someoneTypical lefty scumbag
>>98633040Hive mind
>>98633096I hope you're prepared to take it apart when no one at the table wants to play a "unique" game again.
>>98633256I actually wasn't sure about that ruling I just wanted to bait someone into telling me wether or not I was correct
>>98633214my perfect system is this:if I lose, my opponents' decks were OPif I win, all decks were balanced
>>98633278It's fun when every game is different. That's why I love my theft deck. My friends aren't bitches who will complain about which deck I play- unless it's non deterministic storm with 20 minute turns. Those decks always last one game then get disassembled
>>98633278>i hate fun things>that means everyone else hates fun things tooNot everyone is an insufferable sweaty like you, anon.
>Oh he's playing a Voltron deck that's cool, I'll use my Snake Tribal>Turn 1 Chrome Mox exiling boltbend, Savanna, Stoneforge Mystic fetching sword of hearth and home>As the game goes on people try to interact with him and he has every protection spell possible to save his shit>Finally kill him with an Overwhelming Stampede and he gets salty because "Why ya'll focusing me">His commander survived 3 board wipes, 5 targeted removal spells and only ever died because someone had a weird morph creature that gave everything -x-x when tuned face up when he finally tapped out because he resolved a grand abolisher. IF you're going to but every bit of fast mana you can in you deck, do not be suprised when people think you are a threat.
>>98633289Is that Kam Patterson
>>98629672Sefris is probably the deck I've reworked the most over time. Initially I went hard on draw discard, but currently sort of in the middle between sacrifice and discard. This dude is pretty much the MVP of the deck when he comes down. Anyway, here's my list:https://moxfield.com/decks/7ViBN9E6xEGvgEH6DUbfcA
>>98633368>ever died because someone had a weird morph creature that gave everything -x-xah...bane of the living...
Speaking of which, I'm incredibly sweaty. Not in deck building, but on the table, I'll try to win at all costs using a dingy precon or a Pauper commander. I get pretty locked in cause of the 'tism and I recognize people don't like playing with me. Is there a strategy I can use to blunt my autism?
>>98633472Actual tism or just self-diagnosed? Cuz you can only mask up so hard, anon. Meds def helped one of the regulars at my LGS mellow the fuck out
>>98632607I assume these are just reprints? Nothing new?
>>98633472I wish more players I face were like you as long as you're a good sport while doing it and never getting salty. For me the joy of the game is pushing shitty cards to their limits and that involves people playing optimally rather than pityfeels.
>>98633486Have they ever printed new cards in a Foundations product?
>>98633448This guy always confused me. Radiant Solar sounds like a legendary creature.
>>98633522>1 – 60 of 139 cards where the set is “fdn” and the cards aren’t reprintsMany, many times
>>98633470>bane of the livingYeah, that's the one, made us look up the rules for morph and grand abolisher. I like Voltron decks, but his deck was getting hard carried by his manabase, dude had every mox, mana vault, ect ect and some how always had a protection spell. I think he only had like 5 creatures in the deck. One of the other dudes played with him before and was like>Yeah he builds strong decksNo shit nigger, any deck can be strong with a 5000 USD manabase.
No one tell my wife. Holy shit I'm not even half done. I'm gonna go kill myself.
>>98633525It definitely does. And his effect feels like it could have been a good legendary creature effect as well. I'm not really sure why they didn't make him legendary, but it does make it easier to throw out copies of him I guess.
>>98633525Solars are just a type of Angel in D&D. Radiant is only a named archangel figure in MtG
>>98633544tfw no wifetfw no gftfw khv
>>98632077You use this gif in ways that make no sense.
>>98633488Yeah I don't get salty if I lose and if I lose, it's probably because I fucked up with threat detection or combat math, so I'm kicking myself more than anything. >>98633480No, self diagnosed, but it's pretty bad. I'm self aware enough to know that my table talk and social skills are boring, if not aggravating (not on purpose though). Meds might help, I'd just be more concerned about being more zoned in on meds though
>>98633544What app is this
>>98633544>Giving you wife any say or control over anything
>>98633568Manabox
>>98632853Is this the best card you can imprint onto Isochron Scepter that doesn't involve infinite combo shenanigans
Post decks
>>98633601Mana Drain
>>98633576>>98633578Neat. I'm gonna try this out.
>>98633601>doesn't involve infinite combo shenanigans
>>98633544I feel like it would take days and days to do this shit.
>>98633601The best? Probably not. One of the funniest? Yet.
>>98633570>being an incel
>>98633602Post gf/wife's deck
>>98633601Maybe? I like to put fight or bite spells on it on my Kraven list, but it's done more for theme rather than power.
>>98633615I've been doing this for days.
>>98633610I know someone that actually does this and his argument is that it's a wincon because if you concede from his doing it to you every turn, then he can do it to the next guy until he wins. Hostage gameplay.
>>98633619Where do you think you are?
>>98633601
>>98633602Deleted the first image this shows it better imo
>>98633620I can't tell if I like or hate whatever is going on with these sleeves.
>UB isn't just selling ad space, it's a cross- ACK
>>98633615I might do it in bits over a few weeks. Might also give me a reason to organize my cards. Just one example of my MANY haphazard stacks of cards slopped around my house.
>>98633641>EggmanBased. I need to retake a picture of mine. It's outdated.
>>98633368Never leave home without this.
>>98633656Is that a... storm card!? AIEEEE SAVE ME NIGGERMAN!!!
>>98633602You can have a photo of my rat instead.
>>98633635/tg/ is the wifeguy board. Sorry kid.
>>98633680Clearly not tradwifes
>>98633669>This guy gets Ink-Eyes as his wife IRLIt's not fair bros...
>>98633656BTFO'd many a chud with this card oh and Condom.
>>98633669if that shit wasnt sleeved what are the odds they'd chew the fuck out of that card on sight
>>98633651Mines outdated as well. I added Valeyard and a few others not too long ago
>>98633656The issue was, he had creature tutors to find Grand abolisher, then when we managed to kill that he tutored some 4 mana grand abolisher next. Dudes had his deck tuned and we were playing basically jank. I was snakes, some dude was playing morph and the last guy was playing Esper Urza vehicles.
>>98633680>wifeguy boardI fucking hate my cunt of a wife. She never wants to have sex. Such a bitch. If we didn't have a daughter I'd leave the cunt.
>>98633741How is Valeyard going?
>>98633724Very little. She's nibbled on a common I had on my desk once and gave up. She doesn't seem to like the taste.
>>98633743Im guessing that guy hasAbolisher Voice of VictoryMyrell Conq Flail As his turn solitaire redundancy
>>98633749You tell em champ.
>>98633764She knows WOTC card quality is ass
>>98633749Based wifehater
>>98633669based. cute rat bro
>>98633749she better be earning more than you because if not then your dick's dry for nothing
>>98632607I have Tramplesaurus Rex precon pre-ordered slightly below MSRP from local game store. It's going to serve as "easy to start" loan deck whenever there's new player trying out the game on pod.I believe there's some upgrading to do so the deck could match with other premium precons.
>>98633858She's a stay at home mum. I literally make all the money.
>>98633945>mumit all makes sense
>>98633945>mumand there it is.
>>98633945>mumoof
>>98633949>>98633951>>98633985You retards incapable of reading? He already said they had a daughter.
>>98633945>mumAnon, I...
>>98633986ANON, I...................................
>>98633986Oh, so you don't know?
>>98633986it all continues to make sense
>>98633991>>98633992Okay, let me in on the spicy new meme, then. I've spent the past month helping care for my eighty-four-year-old mother-in-law.
How do you guys decide what cards to cut when you go over 100?I've built a well-rounded deck but I'm at 110 and struggling to find cuts
>>98634000br*tain
>>98634004Decimate your 4+ cmc cards.
>>98634004list?
>>98634004Goldfish and realize "yeah this card sucks to play", or cards that cost too much mana for too little effect. And then when I'm at like ~105 I'll typically select one each of creature/enchantment/artifact/etc and remove one of each
>>98634005I see. Ironically, I didn't notice the spelling because said mother-in-law immigrated to the states from Scotland.
>>98634004I focus down on the cards that do exactly what my deck wants them to do and separate those. Then cut down everything that's left that's just there because it's good and not because it advances what my commander and deck wants to do. Pull out cards from that pile and see which I wouldn't miss seeing anymore and cut around those. Then play test some hands and repeat. Over and over.
Never goon.
>>98634004>draw>ramp>"doing the thing"Anything outside of these get cut first, no matter how super neato I think they are. And then I rank each card in these groups and eliminate the worst one each at a time until I'm at 100
>>98634030>Trigger instead of replacementThey never learn...
I'm not mass replying but I'm in Australia not the UK. Arguably worse for being a liberal shithole but better weather.
>>98634004>Download mtg forge>Force a list>Play with cards and put in maybe boardThe bots won't put up much resistance but it's a great test.
>>98634030>>98634035this is just ulamog 1.0 bros
>>98634056>australia>uk>canadaif there was an encyclopedic entry for 'managed decline', any of these three (or even all of them) would be used as pictures
>>98634030No fap is a myth made up by the homo cabal to hoard all the cum. To fap is to give the middle finger and the cock to the jews
>>98634089Based. Feels good to be an uncut, PreEDH Goon-Chad.
>>98634060mtgforgegang rise up
Can I get some opinions on this card? Only tribal I run is vampires and even with the convoke it still seems not worth it when I'm already running Agadeems Awakening.Most of the vampires are low cost so even if every creature in my deck is wiped, i would only need to put in 4 for X for Agadeems
>>98633115Thank you, anon.
>>98634169There's no reason to not have it if you're playing tribal with black.Mass board reset is good, even if its just redundancy.
>>98634169If you have 8 creatures to convoke, you don't need a mass reanimation spellIf you're hardcasting it, there's cheaper options for mass reanimation.
>>98634011>list?https://moxfield.com/decks/pE2h-MT4rEy2pe6cl4vnvAI wanted to build the new esperslop commander from MBC
>>98634169Convoke is basically useless if you get field wiped. Probably one of the most overhyped cards from that set imo
>>98634169>million mana, do the thingIt's a win more card.
>>98634076Trvke
>>98634169As others have said its a redundant win more card because of the convoke cost. If you want a full retard reanimation card that's also a vampire, go with this guy.
>>98634169>>98634176I run it in faeries and insects because it's easy to make tokens of them while the big dick effect creatures are in grave. The same would probably apply to vampires but I don't play them. Aside from that, basically what this anon says: >>98634181You don't HAVE to be utilising the convoke, but you want to be. There are very comparable alternatives though.>Haunted Voyage>{4}{B}{B}>Sorcery>Choose a creature type. Return up to two creature cards of that type from your graveyard to the battlefield. If this spell was foretold, return all creature cards of that type from your graveyard to the battlefield instead.>Foretell {5}{B}{B}>Patriarch's Bidding>{3}{B}{B}>Sorcery>Each player chooses a creature type. Each player returns all creature cards of a type chosen this way from their graveyard to the battlefield.
>>98634201he cute, if you cast it
>>98634169I run it in my goblin deck. Even if I'm only getting back just two big goblins that just got removed, like either krenkos, it's worth it because it's basically free.
REAL TOKENS:>1/1 white Soldier>5/5 red Dragon with flying>TreasureTHIN ICE:>Clue (does not tap)>Food (comically useless without support)MENTAL DISORDERS:>Everything else
>>98632297I run dong zhou as well
>>98634241Shit list.
>>98634241For me it's 1/1 White Knight with Banding token.
>>98634241Don't be hatin on a squigga
>>98634257>>98634258>>98634268Who asked
>>98631878Ok what about this
>>98634281cringe
>>98634257You get a lot of shit gobbo anon, but I respect you. I hope to get skin as thick as yours. I also have autistic leanings, but other anons make me feel bad.
>>98634289People here are just pricks because they try hard to fit in with a 4chan stereotype.
>>98634289>>98634293Samefag.
>>98634304>under a minute between
>>98634289Thanks friend. You'll get there some day. I believe in you.
>>98631514I run 36.If I run 32-35, I'm always short.If I run 37-40, I'm always flooded.36/64 is the best split for 99% of decks.>>98631565This is wrong and bad player think. Ramp is not just about playing on curve, it's about being ABOVE curve so you're playing things for more mana than you'd normally have playing a land every turn.In fact too many lands is bad because then you can't ramp properly.
I'm too burnt out on modern and standard formats. Tired of faggots running the same shit over and over. Is EDH any better of a format? Do games actually last? I don't have anyone to play with. Not sure if I just self insert myself into a table at a LGS
>>98634323If you are going to play at high power levels, you're going to just run into the same shit, the same commanders or commanders all doing the same win cons that end in a few turns.If you play at lower levels you're going to see a lot of variety and have longer more enjoyable games.
>>98633544I am considering selling a bunch of my duplicates and buying a house at this point
>>98634319kill yourself
>>98633680This. Wife is based and plays magic with the best of them. Love me wife, greatest thing to ever happen to me. We can all make it bros.>>98633749That's rough buddy, not having a wife that doesn't like sex sounds like suffering. Have you tried communication to see if it's just you're not pulling her hair or some shit? Women are bad at discussing that shit.
>>98634338Have fun selling any of your cards to close to what you think your shit is worth anon.
My problem with AI gobbo spammer, I love big tiddy goblins btw, is his slop looks like slop. At least ape a real style. Try to make you shit passable.
>>98634004See if it's actually useful.See if there's things in the deck that do the same or more for cheaperSee if it will be actually worth playing on turnIt's worse when you get down to like 102.
>>98634353I mean even if I get 60% of TCGplayer prices that's still a lot. I've sold shit before so I know roughly what I'll get.
I got blown the fuck out by this card. What the fuck. A single target insurrection or a fog or a pseudo removal spell for 4 mana. This card is amazing in aggressive pods.
>>98634358>Ape a real style.I'm content. Any artist I enjoy, I have too much respect to be a cheap imitation of.
>>98634207The commander is probably Edgar which only generates tokens from creature casts, which honestly Agadeems is prob the best
>>98634364Nice to see a fellow real one. I don't know how much longer I'll sit on my reverse list stash.
>>98634358AI is the only option for people without money. Years ago I tried to commission a NSFW artist that specialized in gobbos to redraw a Yugioh deck so I could make proxies but after a couple of cards I gave up because their queue was too long and it would have been way to much moneyAI porn should be a private thing people do as an alternative. If his power level is high enough to play those cards IRL then more power to him
>>98633749I was in the same boat. By luck or not, I stopped hounding her and being negative, and she just came around. Also she has this kegel machine that zaps her cooter and makes sex enjoyable. We now fuck 4 times a week. It could also be perimenopause. Either way i dont care.
>>98634364>>98634338>>98633544I went through my entire collection of MTG, Yugioh and Pokemon a few years ago and I made like 5k from it. And that was from taking a cut from a card shop.If you have any original Pokemon cards from the first couple of sets, those are astronomically high priced for the original nostalgia bait chase cards like Charizard, Blastoise. I had a random Mewtwo card from RS packs that was worth like 300 USD
>>98634378Dude this shit is 2022 levels of generic AI gen. You are one of the weakest yet most prolific sloppers I've seen on the whole website. Ether swallow that shit and gen with better artist prompts or fucking stop with these outdated slop gobs.
>>98633680>>98634351>wife plays Yugioh not MTG>said she'd only play MTG if they made a Skeleton commander
>>98634405>Ether swallow that shit and gen with better artist prompts or fucking stop with these outdated slop gobs.I choose neither. Deal with it.
>>98634399>I made like 5k from it.That's a nice little bit of beer money anon. Cute.
>>98634426Wasn't implying that was my entire collection, most of it was duplicates and stuff I literally wasn't even using in decksEvery other week I'll sort through my random bulk piles after prices rise on stuff randomly and I'll make like 100 bucks.
Pet cards that will never leave your decks. I don't care if Nighthawk is powercrept. He is based.I don't care if soul collector is bad, the art is kino Simple as
>>98634407I pray if we get a Blizzard based UB it's Diablo so we can get this nigga as a commander
>>98633669el ratto..................
>>98634481I have 5 decks that touch black and its in 4 of them. So I guess it counts.
>>98634378id let her blow me up, if you get my meaning
>>98634481Blocks your flampler
Report the retard for post porn on a blue board. That simple.
>>98634185Uh jewelled amulet seems pretty dogshit to me. Why play a commander to give shadow if every creature already has shadow and is mid asf.
>>98634536Try turning your monitor on... and put on some underpants.
>>98634548My monitor is on, that's how I see the porn
>>98634556Are you an idiot? Honest question.
>>98634556Quite off and staring at your own chub in the reflection I'm afraid.
>>98634563Wash your screen
>>98634538>Uh jewelled amulet seems pretty dogshit to me.Ensures you can get 3cmc commanders out turn 2.If that matters.
>3+Cdo paypigs really
>>98634581Okay, but is it worth it if you don't have it turn 1?
>>98634639Depends on the deck. Its still a free spell at any point of the game.
>>98634651So is Bone Saw.
>>98634680I ran that in a deck
>guy casts ruinous ultimatum>I narset's reversal>everyone is pissed at me>return the favor an opponents time warp>I dont run sol ring, rhystic, or free counter spells>no value engine commander, playing muddle the ever changing>windfall, reenact the crime scene archon of cruelty, muddle becomes myriad archon>no one wants to play with me because I have an answer to everything and play very technicallyshould I just sandbag?
>>98634686Bracket 1 Spider-Man doesn't count.
>>98634707Shao Jun cheerios
>>98634700You know the kind of player that plays Blue because he likes to feel smart even though he's kind of retarded and just abuses the fact that Blue gets all the strongest mechanics in the game?Don't be that guy.
>>98634680>Bone saw is bad all game>Jeweled amulet is good early, and still can hold mana turn at any point as well as add storm>They are the sameDon't be intentionally dumb.
>>98634700>guy casts ruinous ultimatum>I narset's reversal>everyone is pissed at meIf you're going to make up stories at least make them coherent. Player C and D are losing both of their boards no matter if player B's Ruinous Ultimatum resolves or if your Narset's Reversal does. In your story they're arbitrarily mad at you for responding to an action that was going to fuck them no matter what over anyway. This didn't happen, and if it did you're embellishing the shit out of it to make yourself seem based and your opponents seem like subhuman apes.
>hanging out at the LGS after finishing some games>watching the "cEDH" table with turbo sweaties>some dude with a colorless eldrazi deck T1s Chrome Mox and exiles a colorless card for it>people start looking around nervously, wonder if the sweaty knows he fucked up>tries tapping it for mana, gets told it doesn't>ends up scooping and leaving immediatelyI got MAD 2nd hand embarrassment from this oh my god
>>98634736Narset's reversal puts it back into their hand, so the threat of them doing it again stops anyone from putting in resources to prolong the game.
>>98634737more evidence that sweaty players are just gambling addicts. play out a bad start? nope, just try again later when you have a good start.
>>98634746So when he casts it again anon is the only one who loses anything because nether player will play into the board knowing it's still there.
>>98634757>No one plays anything because they are under the gun other than the person holding ultimatium>This would not cause anyone to be annoyed
>>98634715You the same guy who used to post about her all the time?I've always thought it sounded like a fun deck. What do you do to keep the cards flowing?
>>98634736No, that tracks. Timmys expect the blue player to counter the scary thing for them. Having an adverse reaction to Anon running interaction that doesn't put him behind them makes sense.
>>98629462tq: osgir the reconstructor, terra, herald of hope, quintorious history chaser (kind of), and I used to have a shigeki, jukai visionary that used graveyard loops though it didn't really reanimate so much as mill+ramp into tutors.
>>98634700You never specified who Ultimatum was targeting both originally and on copy. I'm not really sure why anyone would be annoyed at this play unless you were doing some gay shit like conspiring to hose a third guy.
>>98634833Wrong Ultimatum.
>>98634841I was thinking of Cruel Ultimatum you're right.Honestly it's a tough position to be in but my assumption would be that if you reversal it then you either have a subsequent counter or will be aggressively digging for one so you don't eat the super obvious clapback. Not super egregious as far as gamestates go but the average Commander player is a baby that doesn't want to learn the game and just wants everyone else to play worse. That's why so many of them gravitate towards rule 0 frameworks, because it gives them an out when they can label basic game knowledge as being a tryhard. It's also why Commander should have moved away from signposting back in 2011 when it was clear the format was not going to stay something only played before "real" games. If not 2011, then the 2020 influx (Hullbreacher, Golos, etc.) should have been the giant red flag that this mentality won't work long-term.
>>98633448why no abdel loop imo
>>98629624When you can loop a dungeon once per turn is game over for the rest of the table. Love that bald wizard.
>>98629624>Friend plays this>Entombs the same three creatures right before he is going to complete to dungeon>Exile his graveyard>He scoops immediately.Literally every time.
NEWTHREAD>>98635099
>>98634878>why no abdel loop imoI play Sefris because I want to do dungeon stuff. Not Abel loops. If I wanted to do Abel loops I'd play Abel. It's the dungeon juggling that I enjoy the most about her and I wanted to stick with that as close as I could.
>>98634484>printed as nekusar reprint in diablo bonus sheet
