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>>98646064>What’s your favorite semi-obscure subfaction?Hive Fleet Tiamet and their weird beacons/pylons/dead space marker things they're building on the planets they turn into biomass farms
sorry chuddie but tau are an OG factionLoV are not>b-b-but they're squa-necromunda squats are squats, LoV are a DRG ripoff
daily reminder leman russ sucks big red wolf dicks.daily reminder leman russ fans have no jobdaily reminder leman russ fans haven’t painted in nearly a year despite having no job
>>98646089It’s just a tank bro what did it ever do to you…
>>98646048>Do you think they will come up with a lore explanation when covens get squatted?>Like Malys "genociding them all to end the inhuman experiments" or some shit?Why would any Dark Eldar want to kill off the only faction that keeps them immortal? Without the Haemonculi they can't regenerate from death.The only thing GW might pull (which I think they tried to pull previously) was to say that the Ynnari don't approve of the Haemonculi and all the Dark Eldar are getting pulled into the Ynnari. ...even though Haemonculi have had Ynnead worshippers since before the Ynnari were a thing.
>>98646084Too bad their scheme is ass.Maybe they should be full blown albinos instead of having that cowardly green.
Post>your army>armies you love fighting>armies you hate fighting
>>98646094>Why would any Dark Eldar want to kill off the only faction that keeps them immortalBecause the dark Eldar are, by their very nature, retarded and short sighted
>>98646090got replaced by the utterly superior rogal dorn.
>>98646098>orks and gsc>anything that is thematic>necrons, anything with reactive move spam, anything with advance and charge
Haemonculus removed from US webstore. This means a reboxingWHICH MEANS DRUKHARI REFRESH SOON
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98646100That model looks so nice… I want to buy one but for 260 points they’re expensive as shit
>>98646064Now that the dust has settled, what went wrong?
>>98646105will it finally put an end to the ritual poster? if it happens and he doesnt have an army he better fuckin start one
>>98646098>guard>nids and orks are always a pleasure to fight>necrons and space marines are usually insufferable to fight
>>98646113>marineshit
>>98646113they failed to curate their questions well enough.
VGH! Marinebros, how do we find the strength to keep up with the constant stream of new content?https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/30qnykae/revealed-new-warhammer-40000-novels/
>>98646115I think what he'll do is start another one that goes like>next DE refresh coming, I can feel itor making a complaint or something. Warning the guy though this ends when they get their refresh.
>>98646113>Eldar are slower than marines but it is fine because eldar have movement tricks!>NERF all the eldar movement tricks and give the unnerfed ones to marines
>>98646113marines are boring and so are rulesets built around them
KINDKOLOSSALKUSTODESKNOCKERS
>>98646113They didn't answer any questions in their Questions and Answers stream
>>98646122>black valhallansMAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP
>>98646113>Let's buff the statlines and weapons of the armies played by 60% of our players>Won't that make the other 40% of the players feel like they're being forgotten>Yes, and?Idk you tell me
>>98646131You will not be missed, chud.
>>98646124Marines have unironically more out of phase movement than eldar nowadays.
>>98646113They spent over half their time answering the same fucking question over and over again, just worded differently.>"I know marines are getting stats and weapons changes with their codex, but what about MY army???">"You'll have to wait until you get your codex :)"
>>98646131don’t worry friend, its just the lighting :) he’s as pale as valhallan ice.
>>98646131Why is the tech priest pointing a plasma gun at the black guy? Did he steal that las pistol?
>>98646113Newfag here. Will all armies be getting a new codex when there’s a new edition?
anyone here used the pro acryl 1 step paints yet? interested to see how they compare to the rest of the speedpaints on the market
I like orks :D
>>98646145yes
>>98646145they will but gw stagger the codex releases, so you could be waiting almost 2 years until your army gets one (worst case scenario)
>>98646146Are speedpaints even worth it? Don’t they just apply a shade with their color?
>>98646154depends, some are great, some are awful, they are a mixed bag
>>98646154>Are speedpaints even worth it?Depending on what you paint. Work great on shit with lot of texture, like scales or fur, shit on flat surfaces.
>>98646154Speedpaints are good as a tool, like contrast it’s a tool in the kit not a solution in and of themselves. You still need to highlight with normal paint afterwards or else it looks like contrastsloppa
>>98646132Is this your first edition? Rules updates are always drip-fed over years.
>>98646122Speaking of which, fatrak rumours reported that Raptors will have a new character. He didn't say who but its obviously Lias Issodon.
>speedpaintnot even 1nce
>>98646171Raptors? I'm surprised but that's definitely not bad news if true. It's been strange how GW hasn't capitalised on a lot of the popular characters. What other popular characters do you think deserve a new model?
>>98646171Glup Shitto?!? Really?
>>98646164There's a difference between drip feeding updates and making a massive change to the core army the game has been balanced around for more than 20 years without addressing the other factionsT5 marines with better weapons aren't the issue, the issue is that it should have been done in an index edition to give the rest of the game time to acclimate
>>98646181Any from badab war?
two more 40k book annonced>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/gezq0saf/middle-earthtm-battlehosts-rules-available-to-download/
>>98646194Thank you for the article about middle earth, tit
Random question: How heavily do you critique other people’s paint jobs on models?
>>98646192You mean like huron blackheart?
>>98646190The entitlement from non-marine players is absurd. Wait your fucking turn. T5 Tacticus and S5 shooting is really not a big deal when accompanied by the points cost rises they've indicated. What adjustments are you even expecting?
>>98646203Except Huron.
>>98646205Why are they updating every chaos faction except for one?
>>98646199Not at all unless they ask for it. I remember saying something very minor to a guy about his model and he flipped out.
>>98646190>GW buff marines because they want marines to be tough and lore accurate>Immediately cry and whine that you can't kill marines easily anymore and demand the same buff
>>98646210chaos marines are marines and they don't want a repeat of W2 SM/W1 CSM for 2 years.
>>98646171Might be for Kill Team since the models they showed off are all Kill Team adjacent
>>98646205>+1 to wound and -1 to be wounded is not a big dealHoly nogaems
>>98646199That depends, what kind of situation?If it's a stranger who asked for suggestions on their model then as honestly as possible without being too harsh. It also depends if they're better than me or not or about the same level. If it's my friend then I'll be harsh if I know they won't get upset, but I'll still point out the things I think they did well of course.
>>98646199I don’t, unless they’re completely new and fucked up painting horribly. In that case I’d offer advice on how to make them look better.If you mean how much I judge based off how they paint them, if they put in some effort and didn’t just rush to put some meta list on a table I don’t judge them at all.
>>98646216Are those Scions with the Marines in that pic?
>>98646135Behold, the perfidy of the Eldar cowards
>>98646216Epic character in killteam? Cool I guess.
>>98646086>LoV are a DRG ripoffGW didn't even get that right.LoV are just Short Space Marines
>>98646213>Have unit that hunts marines according to lore>Dies to them on tabletop>Have weapons that are outright superior to bolt weaponry in lore>Worse than bolt rifles by every metricThe changes make the game a lot less lore accurate, you'd know that if you knew anything about the lore and weren't a LARPer
>>98646215And why don't they want a repeat of that, exactly?
>>98646122So that 11 new Black Library books were announced in just over a month.Was there some weird production or editorial problem at GW that meant they couldn't release BL books?Since it seems the number of books has radically increased
>>98646199in my mind: not really to really harshly depending on who it isif im talking to someone i dont unless they ask for criticism. im not a great painter anyway so it has to be very ordinary for me to critique it
>>98646232Black Library transitioned from a website to an app
marines will get hit by a massive points increase so it should all even out
>>98646231you dont want to piss off the chaos fanbase
>>98646225It's the Tempestus Aquilons kill team, and I think the Space Marine Heroes models you get from the starter set
>>98646237Why would that impact the release schedule of books?
>>98646238
>>98646199I'll critique your paint job heavily, internally, but I'm actually fairly appreciative of any honest paint job. If you ask Ill try and give you some good feedback. There's been a few paint jobs I've seen that other people have critiqued heavily but that I really liked, because they were a rarely seen/unique style and I could see the effort put in.
>>98646219>>98646229Space marines are basically a horde army if you want to run infantry, it's a joke. Of course they need adjusting. "What about muh xenos :((( what about muh sisters :(((" In the Q&A they literally spent the entire time saying > What about [insert other faction]? > HMMM I SUPPOSE WE'LL HAVE TO SEE BUT I SUPPOSE WHEN THE RULES TEAM GETS HOLD OF THEM THERE MIGHT BE SOME INTERESTING ADJUSTMENTS NUDGE NUDGE WINK WINKAnd yet you fucking idiots are still complaining. If you've ever used the term "equal attention cake" you need to seriously reevaluate your life choices.
>>98646238you will lose 1 or 2 units MAX moving from your old lists to your new
Scions/Aquilons should definitely go up to T4 imo, they're just that hardcore in the lore.
>>98646238LolLmao
My army should be unkillable because I’m the protagonist and I shouldn’t lose.
>>98646245Most armies are horde armies if you take all infantry.You are not supposed to run all infantry.
>>98646231It looks really bad to have a faction that is supposed to be s mirror of another just have much worse stats. It's a very good way to make sure all the discussion about the involved factions includes the terms "incompetent", "lazy" and "favoritism", which is not good marketing.
Speaking of praetorian guard how come everyone is mogging GW sculpts these days?
my fucking genestealers better go up to S5 T5 otherwise im gonna LOSE IT
>>98646238Anon we know intercessors are 90 pts
>>98646254My army should be killable because that's their thing but an intercessor being a tyranid warrior with 1 less wound, a better save, and better weapons is asinine
>>98646256>space marines are supposed to be a horde armyFascinating.I think they should actually downgrade marines to T3 and phobos and scouts to T2, and reduce the points of each unit by roughly half. That way I can actually field my entire collection at once.
>>98646256
Guard bros how are we feeling so far with 11th?
>>98646272Cadian shock troops still too expensive.
>>98646272
>>98646100NOBOTTOM!OTTOM!Though I guess that makes up for how much of a bottom Russ is
>Nobody cares when Orks got buff to T5 and all kind of bullshit>Everyone lose their fucking minds when it comes to marines, demanding their equal attention cakeNPCs...when will they learn?
>>98646272We are getting chewed up and spat out by practically everyone.So about the same.
>>98646267>Intentionally misinterpreting the point
>>98646282Orks are fun to fightMarines aren’t.
>>98646260Tyranids are definitely in line for some lethality increases when the codex comes around. We got fucked by the "less lethal" philosophy at the start of 10th which was quickly abandoned
>>98646261is that 90 points for 5?
>>98646269The best way to play custodes for the entirety of 10th edition was to cram as many golden faggots on the board as physically possible>>98646282Everybody lost their minds when orks went to t5 what the fuck are you talking about
>>98646272Guard is A Tier
>>98646282probably because not everyone plays orks so the buff didnt seem like much of a big deal. remember orks didnt get buffed to S5 as well at the time
>>98646292Oh their a tier alrightA tier below garbage
>>98646284I *understand* that you're upset your faction hasn't automatically received a buff to negate the marine buff. I *understand* that you think your second or third tier popularity faction is more important and they would actually be #1 if GW only gave them more attention. I just don't care.
Space marines in the actual lore written by Dan Abnet himself.
>>98646289>The best way to play custodes for the entirety of 10th edition was to cram as many golden faggots on the board as physically possibleAnd still is btw. God damn I love my golden faggots.
>>98646267A 6th ed Marine codex has marines at an average of 14ppm70 pts for 5 was standard. Marines are broadly as hordey as they always have been for 2k points. Typically, you take transports and vehicles which reduce the total number of models on board. Hope this helps!
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98646303The only ppm you should be worried about is the concentration of LEAD in your DRINKING WATER
>>98646199there was a thousand sons player at my LGS a few months ago that had the most horrifying models i had ever seenhe did a gold spray basecoat but didnt shake so it came out all chunky and painted them while they were still on the sprue, so there were tons of obvious flash lines/sprue joints everywherehe walked out with a box of the new robots and i dreaded to think of what he'd do with them
>>98646282>Orks go to T5>Save on 5+ and have mediocre shooting>Marines go to T5>They still save on 3+ and are also getting the best gunline in the game for their basic Intercessor squads>Also Phobos now run faster than Eldar, Gravis are T7, Terminators are T6 with 2+/4++, and Chainswords are now S5
>>98646294Keeping up with current 40k is like a full time job. During 5th edition I could read a few codexes a year and be up to date with everything. Now the rules change every month.
>>98646199my shit isnt even painted particularly well but i seem to get compliments straight away and my opponent most of the time just says "as you can see im not really a painter", they tend to critique themselves, i dont have to do anything
>>98646324You want to know why? Because Eldar Necron Tau fucked everyone back in 7th.
>>98646321Yeah man those bolt rifles were really dominating the meta until now. It definitely wasn't just S10 AP-3 D3 autocannons and S12 AP-4 DD6+3 cannons
Is there an army you refuse to fight?For me I will not fight custodians or necrons, they’re so fucking aggravating and I’m sick of their bullshit stats
>Okay guys we need to put out a book about the Raptors, who do we have them fight?>Ork Kommandos to show the contrast in concepts of sneaking while showing the oddly pragmatic side of some Orks?>Eldar to provide a proper battle of tactics and maneuvering, providing the set-up for a true shadow conflict?>Tau, showing the Raptors going up against superior technology by leveraging guerilla tactics and superior preparation?>Nah, just have them fight a bunch of screeching Nids so we only have to write one side of the fight. The Marine fans are going to buy it anyways.I fucking hate Black Library.
>>98646131Just don't buy it.
>>98646346>Nids are the antagonistsDon't worry, that means CSM going to show up in the third act as the "real" bad guys
>>98646299>Lamenters eating shitWhat else is new?
>>98646346>eldar>black libraryYou just know that bl writers threat them far worse than tyranids
>>98646299Lamenters are the inly Chapter allowed to lose like this and it actually makes them cool and awesome heroes even though when Xenos similarly eat shit it makes them weak and pathetic losers.
>>98646272I haven't played and probably won't. Just painting and photography this edition, I think.Got burned out by the constant meta churn making all the games tournament prep, the tables being ugly, the rules making the game feel more and more like space checkers. Pop a unti out, kill something, die instantly, kill, die, tit tat. At the end of my last run I was playing against marine armies that were as big as my IG army, and then GW jacked guard infantry up to like 75 points. I play the game for aesthetics and narrative and I wasn't getting either.
>>98646346>>98646369Elemental Council was a great Raptors glowup showing how one 'tactical' Marine can be an absolute menace. Them fighting Nids is disappointing to say the least.
>>98646339Picked up orks and it is IMMENSELY satisfying to have an army that can run over necrons after auto losing with gsc & nids against them. The most satisfying part is I've said for like 3 years basically everything having a 4++ & a 5+ fnp and crit sus 5+s like they do is unfun and retarded, so to hear my bro bitch and moan about orks having a 5++ and every other shooting unit having lethal/ignore cover/sus then getting to say 'now you understand why your own army is a problem and has been for months, retard' is icing on the cake.They'll probably get nerfed but idc, I'll have had my fun mindbreaking every tryhard necron player in my store by then. Plus I didn't really pick up the army because I'm competitive- really just want a fun to paint army.
>>98646330No it's because cyclical balancing sells more models. >Oh my Primaris Assfuckers got shitcanned in 11.0.2.3.1.4 early access app subscriber-only beta patch of 11th edition! Time to buy some of those new Primaris Shitdickers they just released to make up the points!
>fire prism back in stockoh shitshould I buy 3???
>>98646330Yeah I remember Necrons being King in 7th because of their fliers and ghost arcs.
>>98646403Yes.
>>98646408what if they get squatted doeor what if we get a new sculpt
>>98646346>>98646388>New Raptor book>Ulthwe are the opposing force>Despite several fights breaking out, neither side is able to score any kills on the other>Suddenly a Genestealer uprising happens, as both sides were being so sneaky the GSC didn't even know they were there>Ulthwe seers call up the Raptors and tell them it turns out the GSC are the real future threat they came to cull>Raptors call for a truce>GSC then get several straight chapters of getting absolutely dumpstered on two fronts by Eldar and Marines>Queue epic fight betwern Raptor Lieutenant and Genestealer Patriarch, with the Farseer getting a hit in to assist>Eldar then peace out as Raptors leave>Planet never even notices the three groups were fighting since they never saw the Marines or Eldar, locals assume the GSC were just some reguler riotersThe End
>>98646412>what if they get squatted doeThen you still have 3 sweet OOP prisms!>or what if we get a new sculptThen you can get 3 sweet new prisms too!
>>98646412Do you like this sculpt a lot y/n?
>>98646395Surely James will lower shock troops back to 65 right?
>>98646428I mean yes, but the falcon hull is ancient. The sprue is almost 30 years old.
Why does everyone hate fighting necrons?
>>98646321And this is why ork boyz are half the points of intercessors while having way better melee and lethal hits.
>>98646321Gravis are t6. Intercessor shooting has gained 1 strength but lost 2 shots outside of rapid fire range. No one was using an intercessor gunline previous, and almost certainly won't now.
I was about to check out but they went OOS againFUCKI never even got an email despite clicking the notify me button...
>>98646478People generally don't like rolling for twenty minutes to kill stuff just to watch it all stand back up. Feels like a big waste of time.
>>98646478reanimation protocols
>>98646299The Fall of Malvolion is to this day the only good depiction of Tyranids BL has produced
>>98646482I'd use intercessor gunline if they had 3 special weapons in a msu squad like tacticals.
>>98646199I don't. If there's paint on the model I'm proud of them. Everyone is different experience levels, and experience is the main thing, so everyone's paint is what it is.If someone's army is painted and they have at least a little effort into details, I'll always say "nice paint by the way" while we're setting up. Just let them know you noticed and appreciate it. It's nice to compliment people for effort. It doesn't have to be "good", effort is what counts. A person who put in effort but maybe has a shaky hand, or is very inexperienced, or just not much time to paint is totally fine.And of course if someone's stuff is abnormally good I'll say that too. I've seen some good stuff over the years and I'll always say something like "that's really great, love the ____" for whatever thing that makes it stand out, whether it's one particularly good model, or it's a particular technique like freehanding or unique star effects or gradient effects or whatever.I won't say anything critical unless they specifically ask, and even then I'll gauge whether they legitimately want criticism or if it's just conversation. Criticism that comes in the form of being helpful is always better, like telling them how to actually do it, not just "X could be better". Chatting about painting while setting up is pretty typical for me, even if it's just complimenting, or just conversation about how long it took them or what was their favorite part and least favorite part of the process. Generally people love to talk about their army dudes and it's a good tone to start the game.Fluff is harder to ask about. Not everyone has a backstory for their dudes. But if a model has a label on the base, or is holding something different or is a conversation of some sort, "oh cool, what's his story?" is something people seem to love haha.
>>98646495You sound like a wonderful person to play against, Anon
>>98646164>things have always been shit, so it's fine that it's still shitThe only thing telling them to not release the codex for every faction all at once after actually playtesting them is their self-inflicted push-feed business model.Don't even reply, I won't respond because you're clearly not operating in good faith.
>>98646491No, you wouldn't.
>>98646525Why wouldn't I? 2 or 3 special weapons per 5 bodies for intercessors are a straight upgrade.
>>98646530You mean if you could field 3 plasmaguns per 5 models?If that's such an upgrade why don't go with 5 plasmaguns per 5 models?That's also a straight upgrade.Yet you won't do it anyway.
>>98646485Wait, it's just that I wasn't signed in. Apparently fire prisms are in stock for the rest of the world, but not the US
>>98646478They're basically marines but with better everything- >fuckass huge model count compared to other factions>boring ass base paintjob compared to every other faction >basically every durability keyword in the game stapled onto one body a la C'Tan>Outdamage every other army in the game>Were supposed to be a (mostly) slow moving army but then they got every mobility keyword in the game>A nightmare to deal damage to, and if you don't do enough the whole unit just stands back up and pretty much guarantees you the loss. >Catalyst for MULTIPLE game rule rewrites (3" deep striking hypercrypt, entire unit resing becauze character survived, etc.) >Has never dipped below a ~50% wr and anytime they seem to head that way they get a buffThe latter's probably the biggest indicator of the central issue- that some retard on the dev team who has a Ward tier hardon for them always ensures they're good, which is a surefire way to piss everyone off since even SPACE MARINES have swingy winrates across editions now.
does anyone know where to find any erratas and extra stuff about GK 5th ed codex? I wanna read stuff about them. also this pic kicks ass and makes dreadknights look less terrible than they are. the mk7 helmets also add flavor rather than looking out of place methinks. I'm familiar with them being mega broken and hated, but that doesn't matter much to me.
>>98646556
>>98646311>painting on sprue>no mold trimming>didn't do the admech ritual for priming>on one of the hardest armies to paintbad bait, I'd believe you if it was like 2 of these things
>>98646561Dreadknights really would look much better if they hide the terminators' legs.
I might check out the Raptors book since they're a cool chapter
>>98646589They would still look inferior to a similarly sized dreadnought with no pilot visibleunless the pilot was visibly martyred on it
>>98646122>Raptors book>Written by William CROWeHow do they get away with this?
>>98646607
>>98646113The release of 5th edition.
>>98646589Nundams have hidden legs and they also look silly, I did see this solution on twitter though.
Hang on, are these two, or just one terrain area?
>>98646645This is more about their thin legs.
>>98646651Hehehehehe booby
>>98646651The ones that have joined edges are single, the ones that only touch at the points are separate. The pdf has the eye symbols making it clear.
>>98646660Aight so Disruptor ideally needs a shit ton of troops
>>98646651Both separate in the latest event companion.
>>98646660>>98646671Whomst do I believe
>>98646671Originally they were joined. Very recent change.
>>98646678Can't wait to buy my mission cards and have them be outdated info within the next couple months
>>98646131>same uniform as jurgenPLEASE GIVE ME PLASTIC VALHALLANS>fucking cadian lasgunNo, not like that...
>>98646131slavs unironically look black but with pale skin
>>98646064I have a squad of praetorians that I'm going to paint up for retro theme
>>98646651>booby traps>it doesn't actually do anything to the terrain or battlefield and is just "flavor" like sabotage/pillagegod i hate the objective cards so much
>>98646696What did old Valhallan las guns look like?
>>98646715The winner either took and held the location, or was disrupted sufficiently with traps. This effects the wider war.
>>98646718>What did old Valhallan las guns look like?
>>98646733Isn't that just the standard las gun?
>>98646718>>98646733>>98646736They were the same, so this is a 1:1 remake, as always. I foolishly hoped (my bad, forgot rule N*1) that GW wouls redesign the lasgun to be a bit more soviet/finnish like
>>98646700There's a reason the Soviets believed you could breed slavs with chimps.
>>98646750It was real.
>>98646696Autism
>>98646604Skip both, BL is shlock
>>98646787I've read the NL trilogy and Lord of the Night and thought they were all good.Maybe I just got lucky with the army I chose to read about. Going to read "The Remnant Blade" later
>>98646792NTA yeah the night lords omnibus is really good. Check out the Infinite an the Divine. It's Grumpy Old Men, but with robot Egyptians.
>>98646785Where do you think we are?
>>98646806I'll probably give it a go after next month or so
>>98646733So... like Cadian lasguns?
>>98646828they all had the same lasguns. the cod kiddies weren't as powerful back then as a purchasing block so they didn't bother with /k/ autism about their weapons
>>98646828>CADIA STANDS!!!ERM excuse me what is THIS?
>>98646792Anyone got the NL books to share? Been meaning to check them out but I don't want to bankroll james
>>98646833>/k/ autismMore like "I only associate this with X, and I don't like X, so whenever I see it elsewhere I get mad that it doesn't belong." Like all the 30k autists who are fully aware of things that existed in 30k, but because they also exist in 40k, they don't want them shitting up their little ecosystem.
>>98646840It's a heavy bolter on a stand.
If I had a nickel for everytime a fun ork book got undercut with a retarded insufferable girl boss pov every other chapter, I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it's happened twice
>>98646840Maxim gun.
>>98646840such vibrant colours. now its all MultiCam
>>98646864>retarded insufferable girl bossThats almost every BL novel nowadays thoughbeit
>>98646864It's fucking stupid because no one but feminists want girl bossesMost girls who get into stuff like Space King and Baki want to see masculine men and stuff. They don't want to see a woman speaking down to all the men to justify some weird anti patriarchy bullshit
>>98646871The last 3 I read didn't and they were all books published in the last 5 years >Remnat Blade>Warlord of Warlords>Dropsite Massacre
>>98646259Vic minis even mogs GW at female sculpts. It is amazing.Hopefully her new female commissars come out in STL form. Hopefully everything from her kickstarter come to digital.I procrastinated on it too much and missed it. :(
>>98646892>almost every
BIGBOUNCYWINDRIDERHAIR
>Plastic valhallansNeed inspiration for a space stalingrad ork stormboyz army
>>98646147many are saying this
>>98646910This is what (((they))) took from you
>>98646910Okay, now I want to collect Eldar. Do they have any models with big 80s hair like that besides the banshees?
>>98646912unfortunately, pretty much every war during and after WW1 is all green, grey, khaki, and camo slop. this design with the weird flowers is kinda cool though.
>>98646910yn's don't know but the 80's just smelled like hairspray and cigarette smoke all the time
Yes yes Valhallans and DKoK are cool...but what about my MORDIAN IRON GUARD? With the snappiest uniforms in the galaxy.
>>98646100this is now costed the same as TWO Vanquishers.
>>98646953That's the magic of 40k, you take the fun parts of historicals, and then you fix it in interesting ways.Iwant german inspiration, the orks stormboyz will be the germans
>>98646969Are Mordians based off Prussian soldiers but in space?
>>98646969I want them all, make 500 pts platoons and mix and match depending on needs (or what the administratum grants)
>>98646750I believe they believed it would work with any of the human races.
>>98646696I'd rather a Kantrael pattern than the bullshit M1Garands the nuCadians have. Hell give them the same pattern the Kriegers have.
>>98646927 No, unfortunately. You could probably get someone to design some head swaps to 3d print though. >>98646956>>98646917> you were born too late to go see Motley Crue live with your gf dressed up in leather and 80s hair (and bush)It's an abstract kind of feel
>>98646956And the truth is if we had a cure for cancer, it still would to this day
>>98645737
Which of the 40k skirmish games has the highest level of customization of your dudes equipment and wargear? Is it Kill Team 2018 or Shadow War: Armageddon? >Inb4 NecromundaI'm asking about the games that cover 40k armies.
>>98647003I've noticed a direct correlation between when we started banning smoking inside and when everything started getting really retarded and gay, I'm starting to suspect there's a causality.
>>98647011skarbrand if he furry
>>98647020Kill Team 2018 was dogshit tho- it was literally just 40k rules and profiles but smaller army.
>>98647020SWA for sure
>>98647003If I had a genie wish I'd make it so smoking was good for you or at least only as bad as junkfood.
>>98647030KT18 was kino unlike the preconstructed and solved slop we are dealing with now.
>>98646969Posting as to why I liked the Mordians. Context: It's the start of the Indomitus Crusade (just after the rift opened) and a strike team of Custodes ahead of the main fleet because they had warning of some really bad shit going on this Monastery World that is now an important warp route hub. Dvorgin is the Mordian General coordinating the planets local defences."‘I am sorry, my lord. I would say it is simply tiredness, but…’ Dvorgin tailed off. He took a sharp breath, and forced himself to look into Achallor’s eyes. ‘With the greatest respect, Lord Achallor, you ask the impossible.’Achallor looked down at the man in growing surprise. The general stared back, his eyes dark-rimmed with exhaustion. Achallor could see it had cost him a lot to speak up, but now that he had forced the words out, he would say his piece.‘Your warriors may be suited to such unrelenting operations, my lord, but mine are not. Nor are the Phyroxians. Nor, I suspect, are the Battle Sisters. Mordian discipline is a wonderful resource but we are not indefatigable. My soldiers have seen weeks of constant battle. We have lost more in the few days since your arrival than in the month before. You spend our lives as though they have no other meaning and Throne knows that is your right, but what do we have to show for it? Stretched supply lines, exhausted reserves, and a half-ruined bastion. Now you ask us to march at once upon the enemy’s greatest stronghold without food, or rest, or a chance to mourn our fallen, and to send others into certain death below the ground. I condemn my soldiers to a pointless end. To do so would be an inexcusable waste in the sight of the Emperor. Strike me down for my insubordination if you must, my lord, but I speak only the truth as I see it.’. . . " Cont
>>98647000Your gf can still dress that way, go to the hair salon and not shave. Motley Crue there's nothing that can be done about that
>>98647020Your cuztomization invariably ended up as a special weapons squad with the serial number filed off and a character to lead them. KT24 has better rules in exchange for losing a tiny bit of sovl. I'm evil, though, so I might be wrong.
>>98647077Cont... Also Achallor is the Custard leading their mission."‘Are you telling me you will not do it? Do you know who you are speaking to? Do you not think we risk our own lives as well?’ Vychellan hissed, taking a step forward. Achallor put out his arm, stopping his comrade. Dvorgin shrank a little, yet stood firm.‘I am not saying that, my lord,’ said Dvorgin defiantly. ‘You ask the impossible, but I tell you that we will do it. We are Mordians, loyal soldiers of the Emperor, each and every one. We will march while our throats are parched, our bellies empty and limbs are bleeding. We will fight until we die, and we will do it because the Emperor demands it. You command, and I shall obey.’‘Then what is your objection?’ asked Achallor.‘There is no objection. I state these facts because I would use them to strengthen my request for a favour, from you who ask so many brave men and women to go to their deaths so your mission might be achieved.’‘And what is that, General Luthor Dvorgin?’ Achallor asked.‘Do not fail,’ Dvorgin said. Some of the stiffness went from him. ‘Some would call it blasphemy to even think you could, but you are flesh and blood, though mighty, so I ask that you do not allow yourselves to be killed, and that you do my warriors the honour of winning quickly. Please. I would dearly like as many of my men as possible to live to see the arrival of Roboute Guilliman.’Achallor stared down at him. Dvorgin stood his ground, sweat springing from his brow. His eyes twitched when Achallor’s gold-clad hands swung in front of him and made the sign of the aquila. He bowed to this brave, tired little man.‘As you command, general,’ said Achallor. ‘If the Emperor had but a few more men as bold as you, we would not need to be here at all.’"
>>98647082>Your gf
>space marines need to be way way tougher in lore!>Most popular lore depiction of Marines has one die to rebar>One of the most famous terminator centric media is about how they get lowdiffed by genestealers???
>>98647082Motley Crue is currently touring. Now that's grimdark.
>>98647082Got her to stop shaving which has been good. Working on the get up. Maybe for Halloween. Thankfully zoomettes like 80s music.>>98647094Stay jelly
>>98647101Would rather go see Steel Panther, but even they got old. . .
>>98647096genestealers are WAY stronger in the fluff than in-game. a broodlord has the physical strength of a greater daemon and the psychic ability of near anyone in the galaxy save Magnus but you never see that on the table.
>>98647107TIMETAKING ITS TOLL ON YOUTHE LINES THAT CRACK YOUR FACE
>>98647096All of these are older than SM2.
>>98647096If units had armour facings we could have marines be tough as nails until met with appropriate anti-marine tools that work specifically because the marine player failed to position his marines and left them to be swamped or flanked
>>98647077>>98647088Book is "Gate of Bones". Actually pretty decent BL slop.
>>98647096>>Most popular lore depiction of Marines has one die to rebarIt feels like I'm missing this one
>>98646131Does anyone else find it weird that in an era of rampart synergy, that Games Workshop keeps publishing fiction starring Valhallans despite not even producing the models for them anymore?
>>98647123Space Marine 2 has an Ultramarine Sgt die to rebar from am IED
>>98647077>>98647088Interesting.
>>98647087>Your cuztomization invariably ended up as a special weapons squad with the serial number filed off and a character to lead them.Yikes, projecting much. My favourite teams were poorfag Genestealers, a lone Chaos Termie worshipped by cultist followers as a living totem and a mixed party of Tau infantry. All my teams had their own backstory and I picked them solely based on rule of cool.
>>98647067I like kt24 but im a more casual player
>>98647132dude did blow up about 2 feet in front of his face, I didn't play it but I watched a playthrough at 1.75x speed
>>98647096>dying to shrapnel somehow makes you weak
>>98646682Even better is when you have to perform geometry just to set the deployment zones up right.
>>98647030That's literally the point, and it works fantastically if bighammer is more of a TTRPG as opposed to a board game.
>>98647173When GW dumb down the game, this is who it's for.
>>98647096Why do you expect marines to survive a bomb to the face?
>>98647173>when you have to perform geometry Do you mean drawing a fucking triangle you Neanderthal?
>>986471964++/4+++
>>98647225You sound like the guy who slaps sticky tack onto the bottom of buildings and scatter because "the game state must remain as intact as possible". Hope you enjoy measuring building corners and gay shit like that for "balance".>>98647123There's a book where a grey knight dies to a chain falling from a chandelier.
>>98647225>triangles? what's next? SQUARES?????
>>98646984ah fuck, I heard stalingrad and immediately thought the soviet side. nazis are the exception because they’re full of based schizos with /fa/ shit, wonder weapons, and weird esotericism going on alongside standard tactical shit. I’m honestly probably going to do similar to you because I want to make an orky axis powers (I already have orky italian fascists down).
>>98647132Shit hurts.
>Bought new Ork Boyz kit>ALL arms, heads and other bits (including special weapons) are interchangable.Well done James, excellent kit. Only complaints are>Not enough screaming-retard faces, lots of helmeted options where the facial emotion is slight anger>Nob pose is a bit shit, but can be reposed with some work I guess>Big mould lines for such a modern kit
>>98646113
>>98647096I always felt that purestrain genestealers should have a high ap value on their melee weapons.
>>98647272my skeleton robots are heckin' cute and valid
>>98647275-2ap is fine. they should just get anti-infantry 3+.
>>98647088did he and his men die?
I ended up getting 4 of the horus heresy rhinos since I originally ordered 2 and accidentally shipped another 2. Is it a good idea to run 4 rhinos in a chaos space marine army, especially if I already have 3 land raiders?
>>98647311probably not. 3 land raiders is a lot of points and capacity.
>>98647096to this day I still can't like genestealers at all: they're too human, it's like the purestrains are already hybridised with humans from the get go
>>98647303
>>98647311No, turn some of them into predators or vindicators or scenery.
>>98647303[spoliers]The good guy Custodes dies fighting an Ascended Dark Apostle but the rest survive and sort of complete their mission, forcing the Word Bearers and Iron Warrior contingent to retreat but the mcguffin leaves with them. The planet holds a giant religious funeral for this one Custodes canonizing him as a saint which makes the rest of the Custodes very uncomfortable and upset. General survives and ends up in G-mans favor, likely to lead a crusade to retake Mordian his home planet.[/spoilers]
>>98647341Mistakes were made don't phone post kids
>>98646228>But we already have short space marines>What about second short space marines?
I think it might really be over this time bros…
>>98647196Because they are t5
>>98647324I like the present humanity, but specifically because of the one purestrain genestealer with a tentacle face and not a human face. It’s the evidence that humanity isn’t the first space faring race Nids preyed upon and that they’ve succeeded before.
>>98647256as a dude who hates screaming retard faces, I couldn’t be happier.hopefully the battleforce box comes with a couple of these guys.
do you think we'll get an eldar christmas box?
>>98647361SC marines are taller than primaris, chart is wrong
>>98647369I'd love an Exodites box.
>>98647245Based & respectful of the original material
>>98647256>all armsAren't special weapons locked to specific bodies?
>>98647365>It’s the evidence that humanity isn’t the first space faring race Nids preyed upon and that they’ve succeeded before.but genestealers are a new creature made in this galaxy there was a whole ass alien plot with its own prometheus prequel and color-out-of-space happening in the tiamat system and the moons of ymgarl that developed the first genestealers tyranids only sent a weird mutant goo on a wave of plasma winds
>>98647398I like the longer neck in the dino's design here, helps making the thing look more intelligent, less close to the aos dinos, and closer to the potential sauropod
I wonder if GeeDubs will use the next codex to mock custodes players for their outrage over femstodes.
>>98646989Yes, they're space Prussians>dark blue uniforms>obsessively drilled for the purpose of discipline in the face of enemy fire
>>98647422They'll continue to sweep them under the rug to avoid any unnecessary outrage while making a passing "she" comment to placate the Amazon representatives and blue hairs
>>98647422No, because they don't want to piss off Cavill, who plays Chadstodes and is producing and starring in their Amazon show.
>>98647422The new Custard character will be a female.
>>98647455>henry cavil>playsonly has one confirmed model painted in 2020 btw
>>98646989>>98647432Prussians and USMC, or a general archetype of "Parade uniform" troops.Imperial Guard regiments are often based on an archetype, it's not always "X in space". Praetorians, which are mordians with a headswap, are very much based on a single movie (scene, even), but outside of that you can assume whatever regiment has been spruced up by expanding the inspiration source.I wouldn't be surprised if there was some US Civil war or even napoleonic in there.
>>98647467>WHY IS THIS INTERNATIONAL CELEBRITY NOT UPDATING ME ABOUT EVERYTHING HE DOES EVERY DAY????because his life is much fuller than yours
>>98647461>all two of the custodes HQs would be women
>>98647461There's no new custard character, their only releases are hh ones, and the codex will launch with the last wave of them.>terminators>dropship/gunship>sagittarum
>>98647467Still more than (you)
>>98647479>AN ACTOR WOULD NEVER LIE OR DO POSTURING FOR A NEW JOB ROLE!
>>98647479>everydayanon, its been over 5 years. that’s over 1,825 days he hasn’t posted a single model.
>>98647503>>98647507>HENRY CAVILL OWES ME PICS OF MODELS AND ALSO SEXchill tf out unc quit maldin' yeeeeeeeesh
>>98647507We’re really playing the >post models game with henry cavil now? Lmao
>>98647519>OWES ME PICS OF MODELSif he wants me to believe he actually plays, yes
>>98647523I cant imagine he gives a shit what you think lil bro lol
>>98647507Oh man he's just like me!
>>98647403They are, the shoulder slots might fit but the backpacks each one needs are molded to the details of that specific torso+leg combo. That being said, the arms also work across the ETBs. Anywhere an ETB has an individual arm on a peg slot, instead of moulded to the torso, you can swap in one of the MP arms. You can also trim the peg on the ETB arm that should have gone there, and put it on a MP body. This is also true for warbikers, though the caveat there is that the arm with the lead pipe for a weapon hangs down too far to be held by an infantry model, the pipe would be propping the model and base off the ground.
>>98647525Sure, but why are you getting mad at me for not believing he actually has more than one painted model?Is this one of those cults things?
>>98647547Im not that anonAnd i doubt he’s mad at you i think hes fucking with youI dont have any reason to doub henry cavil periodically plays this board gameAnd I honestly dont give a shit either way idk why anyone would
>>98647553Doubt*
>>98647553This is being quite mad >>98647479>>98647519
>3x 3 eightbound and a slaughterbound cost £117.60 in total from my usual discount retailer>but 2x 5 possessed cost £64.00 in totalmayhaps I shall do that instead, I'll just give a chaos icon to one of them to mark to slaughterbound
>>98647560theyre clearly fucking with you lol
>>98647477Every time they're mentioned in a codex it's German stereotypes, WW1 Germany allegories or a PopHis understanding of the 19th century Prussian/German military.>The rule of the Tetrarchs was harsh, autocratic and above all absolute, a necessity due to planet's scarce and strictly-rationed resources (10th codex, WW1 Germany)>Iron Guard are named and renowned for their iron resolve and their dour and unforgiving natures (10th codex, German stereotype)>Training consists of endless repetition (10th codex, PopHis Prussia)>A Mordian Iron Guard regiment in battle is a solid wall of brightly-uniformed, perfectly-formed soldiers who cut through the enemy's ranks with precisely-timed volleys of fire behind a hedge of polished bayonets (5th codex, PopHis Prussia but I'd give it to most "martial tradition" stereotypes as well, even the British Army)>Besides their preference for infantry, the Mordians also are renowned for precise artillery (10th codex, WW1 Germany)Their old sculpts have Aquilas styled after Reichsadlers, and the old commanders' hats have Imperialis markings styled after the Totenkopf (which was used by Prussian soldiers since Frederick the Great and only fell out of favor after the SS used it).The inspirations are *very* one-note with the Mordians. Euros don't really think about the USMC unless in the context of WW2, especially back in the 80s/90s when the Mordians came about.
>>98647565>theyredei who?
>>98647520I’m not telling him anything, I’m just stating to (You) its near certain he doesn’t own an army. it’s not like he’s shy about posting on social media, so the idea he’s weirdly quiet about his models in particular doesn’t make sense. and mind you I wouldn’t even care to bring it up, but its so fucking weird when people act like he’s got GW by the balls like in >>98647455 and getting weirdly defensive whenever someone says anything bad about him.
>>98647311No. But hey, good for you.
>>98646546Because we're not talking about substituting dedicated weapon squads with tactical intercessors, we're talking about giving the basic troop extra weapons in addition to having dedicated weapon squads. This is no different to before where tacticals could get a couple weapons and run alongside a devastator squad with bigger versions of said weapons. This is not a difficult concept to grasp.
>>98647519>AND ALSO SEXYes.
>>98647581I wouldn’t be surprised if he was painted like one small armyOr if he just bought a prepainted army or some shitThe idea of the celebrity periodically playing a board game is not that insane to meAnd yes, I agree. Nobody should give a shit.
>>98647256>(including special weapons)This is funny considering they explicitely said the special weapons only fit in specific bodies.
giant femstodes titties
>>98647519>AND ALSO SEX
Are sisters okay with loyal psykers, what about inquisitors? I'd like my next army to be a requisitioned sister battalion that I could play as sisters or imperial agents with some swapsI'd also like an ork pirate army
>>98647562Go for it. I'm sure you have some WE bits from the Berserker's Sprue,helmets and weapons and whatnot. Slaughterbound is on 50mm base but those are easy to get, I'm sitting on 20 of them myself with no need.
>>98647621I was under the impression that an Inquisitor is one of the usual career paths for Psykers who don’t get chosen to be Big E’s meal for the day,
>>98647571>iron guard, iron resolve, iron crossFuck why are they so cool
I'm sorry guys. I watched space king and I kind of liked it.
>>98647650Okay.
Are any 40k books actually good? I'm someone who mainly reads sci-fi and occasionally comics and manga. The Redeemer and Bloodquest were pretty good and Ulli & Marquand had a crazy ending but aside from those I can't think of any Warhammer stuff that I enjoyed.
>>98647650yes, most men enjoy space king
>>98647650Yeah its funny and good honestly lolIt’s kind of crazy that some goofy shithead Youtubers “get it” more than GW does
>>98647657I really enjoyed the night lords trilogy
>>98647657I just finished the Eisenhorn Omnibus and thought it was really good. My only complaint is that it doesn't tell his whole story, you have to buy the Ravenor and upcoming Bequin trilogies to find out what happens to him after. But the story and character are great.
>>98647621I miss the older lore where Sister were such fanatics that they even hated Space Marines for being mutants/abhumans and traitors, treating them as at best necessary evils.That said they will tolerate Astropaths, Navigators, and Inquisitors. . . begrudgingly. Your average sanctioned psyker though? Expect them to be kept on the absolute shortest of leashes around Sisters lest they be slain for the slightest of reasons.
>>98647657This might be a controversial take but I love the horus heresy series. Especially the first tetralogy.
James! There's only one way to save 40k! Release the Hrud!
>>98647673>I miss the older lore where Sister were such fanatics that they even hated Space Marines for being mutants/abhumans and traitors, treating them as at best necessary evils.How is this not the case?
>>98647650Who are you apologizing to? The only people who don't like Space King are the tourist newfag invader trannies trying to subvert the fanbase. It's literally a love letter to OG 40k fans by OG 40k fans who played when they were kids.
>>98647670>and upcoming Bequinlol we're never getting the third book.
>>98646282Because Orks got T5 when they still had 6+ saves and everything in the fucking game had AP -1 so they just didnt get any saves at all against anything that werent guardsmen.And your a newfag because there was an insane amount of meltdowns from marinefags mad that they had to wound Orks on 5+, people in this thread seemed like they were literally crying with tears from their eyes based on the way they were posting.
>>98647650cringeworthy memeshit
>>98647691They're secondaries making fun of the lore as much as enjoying some of the aesthetics, it's not a "love letter" lmao.
>>98647695:(
>>98647621Sisters are not particularly fond of psykers, the clue is that they have zero psyker units in their entire codex line-up and that Black Templar are the Marine Chapter most closely aligned with the church and notably hate psykers and cannot take Librarians.Inquisitors is a VERY different story. The most powerful Lord Inquisitors usually ARE psykers. It's pretty convenient for your job investigating heresy, uprooting daemonic cults, and being targeted for assassination, to be able to literally mind probe people and read their thoughts, shoot daemon-killing magic lightning, and foresee danger before it happens or be able to form magic forcefields at the speed of thought.
>>98647650I watched the first 4 episodes and I don't even think it was trying to be funny
>>98647711>>98647673>>98647630Nice, I'm going to look for kitbash ideas for my leader then
>>98647703No they aren't you fucking newfag retard, they literally had 40k armies and played during the golden years of 3rd-4th edition and love the setting, they've been making animations about it for longer than you've been on 4chan.
>>98647703What’s with the “secondary” framing?They played when they were kids they clearly love the setting and they’re just making funny cartoons about itIt doesn’t strike me as talking shit about the setting or the people who play it in any way
>>98647703you're trying too hard and everyone can see it
>>98647657Esienhorn stuff is fun. Its got a bit more meat but its still pulp. The stand alone Titanicus is pretty great. Night Lords triliogy and Lord of Night are both enjoyable. ADB gets very repetitive after that. The Shira Calpurnia series is an interesting arbite procedural. Pawns of Chaos and Daemon World are old but good. There's solid short stories in Deadzone. The ancient Ian Watson stuff is odd but Space Marine and Inquisitor are actual scifi. Same for the Dark Future stuff if you want post apocalyptic. First 3-7 HH are not bad to passable, it gets bad fast even during that, not sure if I recommend but could be interesting to you. The first Arhiman wasn't bad, gets a bit stale with the twsiting and whatnot but if you like that style its probably good. Word Bearers trilogy and Storm of Iron are fun if you want cartoon action hour villainy. Deff Squadron is a silly comic but good times. The old Inferno Magazine is good if you like 2000AD and Heavy Metal magazine style shorts.
>>98647723It isn't, trannies are just seething that right-wing creators made something successful and notable and so they are doing this subversive divide-and-conquer strategy of trying to get people to think "erm the creators akshually aren't real 40k fans and they're making fun of you too!" which can be instantly disproven by watching some of Tom and Don's interviews about Space King or 40k in general.
>>98647650It's fun and it's exactly what you'd expect in a good way.Waiting for HH MkV to make a captain and Brice
I'm making really good progress on my femstodes. I would paint more today but I'm in pain and recovering from surgery. :(
>>98647760It's absurdly funny that these guys cartoonish goofball armour still looks better than primaris Mark X
>>98647799They kept it simple. I hate the helmets but the cables into abs is so fucking funny & clever
Why do secondaries love reddit king so much?
>>98647691>It's literally a love letter to OG 40k fans by OG 40k fans who played when they were kids.Its for marinefag kids who has raised on matt ward's bolterporn
>>98647809trying too hardAnyway yeah 11th is decent so far
>>98647657I had fun listening Day of Ascension by Adrian Tchaikovsky during my painting sessions. It's a neat depiction of a Genestealer Cult
>autism makes me see the chaos vs imperial of man fight as current left vs right politics>I love chaos despite hating the leftI feel like a hypocrite not playing loyalists
>>98647650I've seen the two creators talk about their creative process and the more I hear them talk the more I get the impression they find their own fanbase obnoxious because they made the whole thing childish and cringe on purpose because they find that funny while the fanbase enjoys those same childish and cringe elements because they find them cool instead.I pray they don't fall into the same pitfall as others and start interacting with their fanbase more than they do as of now.
>>98647820>bro this is JUST like my favorite political factions!!!!Have you tried not being such a sperg?
>>98647820Don't worry, you're perfectly in tune with chaos then because 99% don't actually like chaos turns out.
>>98647820its more authoritarian vs anarchy
I really wish 2v2 play was more popular. I would love to have my guard fight with another army like Eldar, marines, or Orks
>>98647824yes that's why I'm going chaos>>98647826good thing I'm playing renegades and don't have any plans to use deamons in my army>>98647832huh, could you elaborate on that, I'm interested in that idea
>>98647847I mean, the imperium is authoritarianIt’s all about unyielding authority for the collective security and wellbeing of humanity supposedlyChaos recognizes the observable flaws in the imperial regime and has decided based on bitterness resentfulness whatever that it would be better to just tear it all down (anarchy)
>>98647820That's not autism
>>98647832>chaos is about anarchyI don't think that's how it works. Anarchy is about a lack of structure, Chaos isn't a lack of structure, it's structures fighting themselves. In effect it looks like anarchy, but in practice it's everyone wants total control and obedience of everyone else.In short: Chaos doesn't want anarchy, at best it can create it.
>>98647809Tom and Don are Newgrounds core, they were shitting on reddit when you were still a redditor who didn't know you were supposed to shit on reddit to fit in here.
>>986478331v1v1v1 is where it's at.
>>98647875Yeah, trueIn the context of the imperium, it’s about tearing down existing power structures which is why I was calling an anarchyBut yeah, in reality, their end goal is tearing down existing power structures to then replace it with their own power structures
Guys, is CSM a fun faction to play?
>>98647787Best of luck with your bottom surgery recovery, Sister!
>>98647893ya, it and can be played in many ways
>>98647884sovl
I think it would be cool to make a table with layers, like you have to go up stairs to get to the next level, like a castle or something
I have now ordered the Krieg Death Korps combat patrol and a unit of Cadian Heavy Weapons. These are the first minis I've ever bought and was a complete impulse purchase. Let's hope I wait to see if they arrive through the shitass Greek mail system before I fire off like five other orders. Thought I'd share.
>>98647921Why did you not buy the Krieg Heavy Weapons
>>98647927I am a retard who doesn't know shit and my dream is to field 18 mortar models and rain shells on niggas. Also the combat patrol has one.
>>98647918Hell yeah that type of shit is cash
>>98647889If you were talking about general anarchy, sure, maybe, but anarchy as a political system is something specific.It's simply the very common conflict of self interested corrupt (literally) people being jealous of an existing system (regardless of its flaws) because it has power/is the status quo, and trying to take over or purposefully destroy it if that's not possible.Contrary to popular belief, not everything is political, neither in the "current political events" nor in the "general political thoughts" sense.Did the people who participated in the big pot that is warhammer & 40k have opinions? Sure. But 40k is very much a game that doesn't take itself too seriously. It doesn't draw from history to make a point, but rather because it inspires the game.That's why orks are inspired by hooligans, nazis, mongols, etc. Not as a statement, but because it helped feed the character of that specific race/species of hyper-violent aliens.Same reason why the imperium draws from our history: you want something dark and gritty for your wargame that has billions of reasons to go to war and have conflict.While the last decade and more has seen some romantization of chaos, at its core chaos is just evil people pleasing evil gods for evil reasons by doing evil things. The depth isn't in the philosophy, it's in the events and story that take place thanks to the character of the faction.Thank you for reading my blog.
What's up chuddies, new goy here. I want to buy my first models this month when my next goycheck comes in. Are black templars a different codex from regular space marines and do I need to wait for it? And can I run them with arbites?
>>98647918That sort of thing is really best kept to skirmish scale stuff like Necromunda or Kill Team. The logistical complexity grows exponentially with more units.
>>98647967I mean you don't need to play at 2,000 points, I usually play at 1,500 points just to keep the game time down
>>98647965It’s just gonna be the space marine codexalso all that chud goy shit is gay try to minimize that if you’re sticking around
>>98647933>I am a retard who doesn't know shit and my dream is to field 18 mortar models and rain shells on niggasI see. You'll either enjoy the LARP or get tired of it not working; hopefully you enjoy this journey and don't get discouraged by guard being aggressively un-fun in a lot of situations.Mortars are not a "strong" pick IMO, but they serve a use in causing your enemy to funnel into killzones that you've set up with the rest of your army. Artillery (either the Field Ordnance Battery or the Artillery Team) are better at this job though. Consider getting an Artillery Team, and make sure you get another command squad. Don't buy commissars unless you want to play Ogryns and Ratlings.>Also the combat patrol has oneFair enough
>>98647918That's a cool idea, be careful about accessing minis.Usually those kinds of complex boards are for games like necromunda, mordheim or even kill team because of the low amount of minis to handle. With skirmish games you'll quickly come to understand why it's not as common.But remember: necessity is the mother of innovation, so keep at it and do try it, you'll adapt and invent as hurdles appear.
>>98647985>also all that chud goy shit is gayOh word up slime, as long as we still hate the gays
>>98648001>You'll either enjoy the LARP or get tired of it not working; hopefully you enjoy this journey and don't get discouraged by guard being aggressively un-fun in a lot of situations.I figure if one thing doesn't work the heavy weapon squads can always be reconfigured. Thanks for the advice!
>>98647918That works better when the different layers are different tables that can shoot across one another using preordained points of reference/"portals"
>>98647933>my dream is to field 18 mortar models and rain shells on niggas.Damn based, live your dream bro
>>98648004this is sweet
>>98648020
>>98648010>the heavy weapon squads can always be reconfiguredThe assembly of each reuses the same parts, and the only ones that share a basic format are the lascannon, autocannon and heavy bolter. The mortar and missile launcher both have unique poses and unique part usage. You can't really "reconfigure" them if you set them up with mortars, you'll end up buying another 6 boxes of heavy weapons squads for the lascannon/autocannon/heavy bolter tripod, and then another 6 boxes if you want to set them up with missile launchers too.I don't think you want to own 18 HWS.
>>98647967I'd argue it suits earlier editions of 40k great but nowadays there's too many models.
>>98648025I did a little reading and theres a guy for sure who put magnets on top of the mount for the one that's not a tripod to switch out the non-mortar and rockets. I was thinking about looking into seeing if one can magnetize both the bottom of the weapon mounts and the tops to switch between tripod and whatever the other thing is as well as the weapon on top of the mount but like I started, I've never even seen these things yet so I dunno.
>>98647965Black Templars need both the space marine codex and the Black Templars codex supplement, or you can just use wahapedia and newrecruit for free. You can run them with arbites, but they're allies, and allies don't get any of your army-specific buffs or abilities, so people usually only use allies when they're just uniquely good on their own, like a single Callidus assassin or something.
>>98648025and yeah, I don't want to buy that many things. I went with the combat patrol because I already figured on the death riders to block easy access to my indirect fire and I wanted a command squad for death korps so the only wasted thing there is the hws but again, that may be useful in changing things up.
Why do only necrons get the monolith? I want a big tank that can teleport my squads around in my space marines list. Why is the space marine codex so restrictive?
>>98648056Kek
>>98648056drop pod?
>>98648062No the monolith let's you teleport your stuff to it. Also is tough and has sweet shooting and melee. I want that for my space marines.
Name my band
>>98648065too bad lil bro necronchads stay winning
>>98648074The Random Bullshit. I still don't know wtf you're trying to do with this list, it's full of allies and legends, so it's not going to be good, so why are you fine tuning it like it matters?
>>98648036The tripod legs that the mortar and missile launcher both use are way too small to be magnetized in the traditional sense, and the missile launcher cannibalizes the mortar tube for itself so you either end up piecemealing the entire kit to be modular or having to choose.I generally pick to go with the tripod cemented to my base and choose between lascannon/autocannon/heavy bolter (it's always lascannon), I've never needed a mortar because I run a Field Ordnance battery if I'm playing with infantry guard and I've never even considered the missile launchers.>magnets on top of the mountYou don't even have to magnetize it, the mount is push-fit into the "gun" part. Yes you might want to *eventually* because push-fit parts wear over time, but you can easily get away with it for a long time as long as you aren't swapping the gun back and forth once every 15 seconds.>>98648053The Krieg HWS is phenomenal as a close range "nobody comes here" unit because of its heavy flamers the other HWS don't have access to. Stick it onto an objective and that point is much harder to take for your opponent, especially if they push you with infantry (yes, even marines). That is the use of the Krieg HWS.Krieg in general are the "stuck-in defender" archetype for guard units, that's what they're good at.Death riders are decently good, they have good damage output even against vehicles (melta lances) but they need good cover and maneuvering by you to not just die instantly. They greatly benefit from their character (Lord Marshal Dreir) as well, so maybe consider getting him.
>>98648074soul
>>98648091I don't think "I'm a huge faggot" is a very good name but thank you for the suggestion.
>>98648115you're weird, brazilians are weird
>>98648074Make your warlord a crucible character
>>98648128Solid advice.
>>98648074soleacorpus strike force
>>98648124They're literally a fun selection of my painted models and I'm only playing with my literal brothers from the favela and their equally fluffy and suboptimal lists, I'm not playing at a pro level and neither are you, so yeah you're a faggot for talking shit and for implying I should play some boring meta value pile rather than what my monkey heart truly desires. Picrel being my judging face as I type this.
>>98648153you get very mad out of nowhere, very chimp-like I must say
>>98648093Thanks, I figure I'll have bases for tripods with mortars and then extra for the shooty type weapons for one race and switch in krieg for the other to keep the time and money down.
Flash gitz should be allies for all armies
>>98648091Behold, one of the main issues with 40k on display. The endless meta chasing, the desire to only use what is "good" and to discard everything else. It would be best for these guys to stick to MOBAs, it's more their speed.
>>98648170lots of things should be available to lots of different armiesgw will never do that because they're jewsand the fanbase will never do it on their own because they're goylems
>Mfw assembling Assault on Black Reach MarinesThe soul was lost at some point indeed.
>>98648234I remember having one nob from that set, painting it really well unlike my other armies, and then gifting it to a completely random kid years later, since I never did orks in the end.I don't even remember how I got the ork.
>>98648234Soul is a meaningless word you use because you have nothing insightful to say.
>>98648245>Golem realizes that the lack of soul tells him apart from real humans, and the only emotion he can feel is angerI pity you, creature.
>>98648093I'm also going to get some extra bases and set up three mortars and then three lascannons with one crew each and space for another guy when I feel like buying 10 shock troops and 10 jungle fighters just to finish my HWSs is a sensible investment, or keep looking at thos bits sites.
I love Tau
>>98648258The only "save money" thing I'm aware of in regards to HWS are a few people that sell resin copies of the tripod legs so you can double-dip and build 2 squads (sans men and bases) out of 1 box. You'd still have to pick between mortar or missile launcher though.>buying 10 shock troops and 10 jungle fighters just to finish my HWSsThe Cadians and Catachans in those kits aren't posed to fit into the HWS models, you'll have a bit of a hard time making it work. The support guy would be easy, but the actual "operating the mortar/gun" guy would not be.
>>98647884I remember I had a 1v1v1 one match since I had two friends into 40K. Those two just fucking teamed on me. Little bit after that I had a 2v1 match where me and my friend played two 1k point armies against a 2k point army. Because we had just started 40K and we didn't have enough models for 2k points and all the experienced guys in my LGS wanted to play 2k.
>>98648278Okay I didn't think about that but there's some french site where you can buy shit like, bent left knee I was looking at earlier so I may be able to frankenstein suitable dudes for cheaper.
>>98648257>everyone who disagrees with me is a soulless golem
Did they change rules for crucible characters in 11th? Newrecruit is behaving weirdly, telling me each weapon is 5 more points, and specialism having no effect.
>>98648289Those are probably recasts or resin, fwiw just off of "site that sells singular bits from 40k kits" unless they buy others' used sprues and part them out; that's really novel if that is the case though.Be careful when assembling mixed materials because you have to use cyanoacrylate glue instead of plastic cement, assuming these parts are resin.
My landspeeder has snapped off for the third time
>>98648297Are they even usable in 11th edition? I didn't think they got any kind of compatibility update for the new edition.
>>98648311According to the interweb, GW specifically stated they would be usable in 11th.
>>98648307Get a bit of brass rod and use it as the flight stand.
>>98648316Okay but "usable in the next edition" and "supported" are two different things. I remember how janky the Boarding Actions rules were at the turn over to 10th edition.
>>98648297Newrecruit is a buggy mess and slow to fix things. I'd recommend something else but when I do they seem to get taken out (War Organ most recently).
>>98648299Thanks for the warning, they do claim to part out sprues but they also admit to being French so who knows? It's called bitzstore.com
>>98648344Kill team has alternative activations thankfully
>>98648338Oh, I know them, they're good peopleYea those are all cut off of GW sprues, they're original parts cut out of sprues (either left over or done on purpose just parting out a kit) and you can use plastic cement on them.For lack of a better metaphor, treat them like Bricklink for Lego where you can buy individual parts specifically.
>>98646064>What’s your favorite semi-obscure subfaction?Anrakyr and his roving band of Immortals
>>98646064Exorcists are really cool. They feel like a more grounded version of the Grey Knights.By grounded I mean less mary sueish
>>98648344fixed
>>98648399do we want alternating activations?
I like tau crisis suits.
>>98648419>fuckzenith>rapezephyr>homostorm
>>98648404we have an alternating fight phase. they should give the shooting phase the same treatment to cut down on alpha strike bullshit.
Maybe I'm a retard but doesn't the phrasing imply I can choose not to pick another character and still get the Psyker keyword and nothing else?
>>98648463>we have an alternating fight phaseAs I understand in 11th there isn't alternation in the fight phase, there's a set order with 3 steps.
>>98648475No
>>98648404Nah, game's way to asymmetrical for alternative activations to work.
>>98648404yes, since a big deal of 40k's problems come from alpha striking, or otherwise an excessive amount of firepower making the game a landslide.but also alternating activations on their own do little other than slowing down the game and requiring an extra stat and rules or points recounts mid game to avoid the issues of msu being used to waste the opponent's activations before activating all of the useful units unopposed, or the use of a few large units allowing one player to activate every gun they have way before the opponent.two much easier solutions are target priority rules to allow players to force their opponents to spread their firepower across the army by positioning units right and crossing fire, rather than focusing it freely and almost unopposed on the most important and ideal targets every time; and also reducing mortality by having shooting cause effects other than death (like forcing a move towards/away or forcing a shootout), having more mechanics about recursive troops, and shifting the overall toughness of units so that they're way tougher when they engage the opponent the ideal way but weaker when they're outflanked or caught while doing something else.responsiveness is also an issue of the game, since it can often feel like you're playing a stat check and might as well play solo, but you can add that with stratagems and special rules for out-of-turn actions without having to juggle alternated activations.
>>98648490I don't think alpha striking has been a thing since 7th.
>>98646259I know it's not really their 'thing' but god I want a 3rd party to do a full on felinid abhuman McConnell regiment of models that's basically just that famous image of catgirls with giant glamrock hairdos for both the men and the women
>>98648477Players alternate through two phases, "fights first" and then everything else. Why comment when you have no idea how the game works?
>>98648490
>>98648518Because in practice alternation doesn't really happen unless you use a stratagem or fights first since charges fight first.
I don't want my Grey Knights to get a refresh. Not only will all of them become fucking monopose units. But the prices will rise so much. Like right now a 10 man interceptor squad costs 55€. When the refresh comes they will probably sell interceptors in boxes of 5 and they will probably be like 65€ or something like that. So 10 man interceptors squads will go from 55€ to 130€.
>>98648419I like to make tau crisis suits disappear
it has been awefully quiet. I thought at the beginning of a edition they release miniatures left and right
>>98648601There's been plenty for orks but they've shown fuck nothing about marines other than the bikes.
>>98648536too many effects, and some of them don't seem important enoughit should just be>push (the enemy is forced to move away and not fight/shoot this unit)>draw (the enemy is forced to move closer and fight/shoot this unit)>lock (the enemy is slowed down and fights/shoots with a malus)
>>98648601Took them 3 months after the edition released to drop the first codex lol
>>98648601I get why but it's really strange to me for a new edition to mean spaced out codices
>>98648540You clearly don't play games and should stfu now.
This Start Collecting Orks box cost 85 dollars. Here's what these contents would cost now:Painboy = $34 (that is 1/3rd of the price of the Armageddon Kommand Krew where he is included)Boyz = $65Nobz = $42Deff Dread = $62In todays prices the start collecting set includes $203 dollars worth of stuff when it cost just $85 during 8th edition.
>>98648608The actual effects are>pinned units can't move, charge or disengage>supressed units can only shoot snapshots>stunned units can't do reactions>routed units fleeIt's pretty easy. Yours is boring and doesn't make much sense.
>>98648628Seal my lips.
what do plasma generators use for fuel? do they have any basis or they simply have word "plasma" in them to sound sci-fi?
>>98648643Yes.
>>98648632>It's pretty easy.I wasn't saying otherwise, I said they're too many and not important enoughI also avoided the concept of being able to prevent the unit from acting at all because nobody likes stunlock mechanics, and the point of it all is to increase interactions, not stop interactions
>>98648616Agreed I think they should really drop editions alongside a few major faction codexesLike 4 or somethingSpace marines orks CSM Tyranids or something wouldve made sense for this editionAnd then they can dripfeed the restThey should not be releasing codexes, especially major ones, in like the last 6 months of an editionIts just lame
I'm feeling the call of the votann again...
>>98647670>what happens to him afterOh boy. No, Eisenhorn tells the crucial part of his life, when he's still something of a hero doing good for the Imperium. He doesn't do much in Ravenor and comes back as a villain for Bequin
>>98648419Yeah.
>>98648659Batch releasing is what needs to happen. My AOS army has been unplayable for a whole edition. By the time I get a chance to buy (lol no) the lizardmen codex itll be edition change
>>98648720Sorry, that would make the revenue look bad to shareholders
Pineapple is heresy!!!
>>98648741It might just be that dripfeeding releases, resurges interest periodically which increases their overall revenueBut yeah from a player perspective it sucks
>snatched 7 tactical squad boxes>get to resell them for twice what i paid
>>98647657Depends on your definition of "good".A good warhammer book to me, focuses mainly on how an army/unit operates in battle. There isn't really a consistent quality either. Sometimes you get a Legion and Mechanicum, other times you get Know No Fear amd Battle for the Abyss.
>>98648632Don't pinned and suppressed both exist in 40k, but at the datasheet level instead of core rules?
crucible character>inquisitor on throne of judgment>only for casual games so wanted to give him a cooler base>plus my friends & I might use him in Necromunda as some sort of boss encounter
>>98648794and from the back
>>98648419Same
>>98648769Honestly I'm just looking for something as good as Dredd's better arcs like Apocalypse War. Bloodquest was pretty close.
>>98648794Extremely based
Why is the thread so dead?
>>98648607>There's been plenty for orksHas there been tho? Feels like they've gotten maybe half what the Nids got at the start of 10th
>>98648829New edition, no codexes released yet to discuss, duh. The mutant also shitted off some of our most active modelposters and they left 'member?
>>98648794kino. he looks so comfy in his big chair.
>>98648852Orks is out. Surely there's much to say about Orks still right? Has Space Marines leaked yet?
>>98648828>>98648858thx. The general fluff I'm thinking for him is that he's a radical Xanthite and for his.. well just straight up heresy, he was executed via bisection. His acolytes pulled off a Wolfenstein style body heist to save him and attach him to the construct he now uses to survive. His helmet is a chaos artefact he claims he can channel his mind into for the purpose of "following ebs and flows of the warp". If he does so accurately for the good of the Imperium or he is being manipulated by daemons is up for debate.
>>98648896>one codexYes and the 2 or 3 ork players itt have discussed it a bunch already. Anyway don't just cry dead thread, post new mini pics or start your own discussion you leech
>energy weapon yet a giant gatlingonce again dawn of war did it better
>>98648852Orcs just dropped
>>98648919>firing atomic shells the size of battle tanks>SHELLS
>>98648930>OrcsOkay then the ork players are asleep or haven't read it yet. Again, stop whinging and just contribute
>>98648914What’s this guy’s problem?Angron is that you?
>>98648919>can fire all its barrels at onceNot a gatling cannon, just six guns next to each other
I got a forgefiend for £30 off ebay, that's what we call a swag deal
>>98648938I didn’t whinge about shit little manJust relax yourself and chill it’s the 40K thread
>>98648952No it's the warhammer thread fren
>>98648954humminah humminah wuh?>>98648756This
Quick, name every factions most likely pity model for this Edition
>>98648964It's just called warhammer now sweaty
>>98648829I got these to start my sisters/agents, also two assassins
>>98648919>>98648943
>>98648969>sisters: dogmata>custodes: prosecutors>admech: servitors>guard: conscripts>grey knights: interceptors>agents: vindicare>imperial knights: warglaive>marines: suppressors>templars: crusaders>blood angels: death company>dark angels: ravenwing>wolves: thunderwolves (diapers)>deathwatch: veterans>csm: cultists>death guard: poxwalkers>world eaters: jakhals>thousand sons: tzaangors>emperors children: noise marines>chaos knights: war dogs>daemons: nurglings>eldar: guardians>drukhari: wracks>gsc: neophytes>orks: grots>necrons: warriors>tau: fire warriors>votann: hearthkyn>nids: termagants
>>98648990indeed. I still find DOW 5 barrel giga beam to be cooler.
>>98645657>Trazyn being the primarch of necronsRetard, he's just a lowly humble overlord, tending to his museum. Narratively he's an interesting character, but in the grand scheme of the galaxy he's a nobody.
>>98648969>Space Marines - Ultramarine Calgar's Friend>Orks - Nazdreg>Custodes - Constantin Valedor>Tau - Firesight Marksman>Grey Knight - Kaldor Draigo>DEldar - Haemonculus>Eldar - Karandras>Necrons - Trazyn>Votann - Dungeoncrawler Kahl>Sisters - Ephrael Stern>Deathguard - Lord of Contagion>Emperor's Children - Eidolon>World Eaters - Butcher Surgeon>CSM - Doomrider>Thousand Sons - Terminator Sorcerer>Knights/CKnights - (B)adMech upgrade>Guard - Catachan Commander>AdMech - Secutor Techpriest>Nids - Old One Eye>GSC - Broodmother
Is the Beast series worth reading?
>>98649061no
we le need a new thread XD :DD XD
Our resident shitposter/s taking today off huh?
>>98649150TQ suggestion?>>98649151I hope he killed himself
>>98649061no its awful lmao. read the cliffnotes on lex and move on.>>98648969idk about every faction but some thoughts on cool possible stuff:>sisters - imperial saint in a dreadnaught>csm - bikers>death guard - new daemon engine with a shit/sludge railcannon>world eaters - surgeon>emperor's children - cultist type unit>tsons - some kind of ultra mutated sorcerer guy>agents - generic inquisitor with multiple build options>eldar - scorpion phoenix lord
>>98649033I agree with you but also the Silent King is extremely lame and gay and should never have made it out of the old codex timeline marginalia
>>98649163what do you think of the 11th edition releases so far? have you played a game of 11th yet and most importantly was it FUN?what changes would you like to see in your army for 11th?
>>98649151you just know that the next thread is going to be aids
>>98649163Since Marines are going to T5, what units does your army have that fluff wise should go to T4?
>>98649151>Hmm there's been no/less shitposting this thread better bring them up and make sure to include an image so people don't scroll past my postThat other anon is right, you faggots don't care about shitposters or thread quality, you care about being seen as better than them
>>98649173Imotekh might still stage a successful coup.
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>>98649199I wish, but they made him that ugly fucking dais model
>>98648643Nuclear Fashion
>>98648983Noice
>>98646395>>98646432"shock troops" aka INFANTRY SQUADS should be 50 points like they were in 5th.btw all other factions have gotten updates to their stats but guardsmen are still hitting on 4+ and saving on 5+ with toughness 3.
>>98653011Be grateful James doesn't reduce you to hitting on 5s. Phoenix lords lost S4/T4, Exarchs lost 2+/2+ ws/bs, and wraith units hit on 4s now.
>>98647787they don't look like females
>>98648399is this picture really as old as 3rd edition?
>>98647256There's a ton of various 3rd party ork heads at least.
