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>>98649094>TQ Yes. My empire village I've been working on. Pic related. >inb4 AI Having grok hide my garage in the background behind a sky backdrop isn't AI, it's no different than using photoshop
>>98649177fuck off with this slop, manlet
>>98649203What in the world are you even talking about
>>98649203What actually is the problem with his post in this case? He just engaged with the TQ and didn't post anything inherently anti-warhammer. That's more than you can say
which artist makes the best skaven rule 34?
Don’t respond to any of his off topic spam or trolling. Just report.
this thread is already off to a terrible start, I see
"ghost' paintjobs and that cathany terracata paint scheme has to be the most annoying things to come across. Granted I haven't seen bretonians paint like this so far, some guy brings an entire army that looks like diarrhea green.
>>98649503God these new Bretonnians look like fucking SHIT with those giant bibs and humongous axes
>>98649503>some guy brings an entire army that looks like diarrhea green.Forgot to say, but some guy brings an entire army that looks like diarrhea green.some guy brings an entire army that looks like diarrhea green with vampire counts. and hes flirting to do the same thing with ghost dwarfs.
What giant head should I go for for my greenskins? I like the vanilla one a lot but the bone jaw one seems more orcy.
>>98649503Undead bretonnians is a very common trope.But yeah people who just paint their entire army in one color, with contrast to add insult to injury, are lame.
>>98649663>>98649503Let's see your painted army
>>98649677I literally just posted it anon. Which other unit of mine do you want to gawk at? Some other undead? Bretonnian crusaders perhaps? Or some chaos dwarfs?
>>98649503>>98649663Unless it’s the army of the dead from MESBG/LOTR in that case it’s thematic
>>98649707It's your undead bret contrast sloppa?
>>98649612Use both. Make a little ettin.
>>98649727They're quite obviously neither bret nor painted with contrast anon. Keep up.>>98649709Of course.
>>98649663These aren't meeting the tabletop standard of two colors
Speaking of Undead, thinking of starting Tomb Kings with the intent to also run it as a Lhamian themed Vampire Counts army as well.My plan was that Spear and Archer Skeletons would double as skeletons(duh), Mortuary Priests could double as Necromancers, Tomb Kings/Princes as Wights, and Ushabti as Varghulfs/Vargheists. Carrion as giant bats, Scarab Swarms as Bat Swarms and/or Ghosts?Any ideas of what other units in either armies could proxy as would be appreciated.Also, if anyone has links to models of ancient Egyptian women I could use as Vampires I'd be grateful.
>>98649779Silly boy.
>>98649822>>98649503>>98649663>one thick coatIs the point of these "ghost" armies just to be lazy and minimum effort?
>>98649834You're trying too hard.
>>98649839Apparently that makes up polar opposites
>>98649858If you say so, silly boy.
>>98649177>>98649216>anon’s boring historical village>again
>>98649883What do you think a fantasy village is, dum dumb?
>TQA battle at a farmstead seems a natural fit for ogres. Plenty of livestock to eat, not to mention the farmer.
>>98649890That’s hard to define in simple terms, but it’s NOT your replica of a german hamlet circa 1916
If Kislev has just enough Druidic theming like they had in the tww dlc I’ll give up on my wood elves and make Kislev my own home. Here’s hoping they aren’t too gay.
>>98649966A fellow connoisseur...
>>98649966>>98649977Ok but why are you posting pics of the Empire?
>>98649909>replica of a german hamletActually, that is exactly what a lore accurate empire village looks like
>>98650001Provide a picture of an Empire village from a Warhammer book that looks like yours, then.
>>98649203PDS
>>98649177>Goyslop isn't ackshually goyslopKill yourself
Am I retarded or does the Parry rule added in the FAQ give infantry a +2 to save with a shield.
>>98649822>Third party >Overdesigned>Monochrome>Contrastslop
>>98650107You are 100% retarded. Read the rule.
>>98650107Yes but only in melee. Ignore >>98650172, he's retard anon.
>>98650107>ogre bulls with ironfists are tankier than ironguts nowHuh.
>>98650251Parry only applues to normal infantry.
>>98649177>>98649216Looks great. sadly lots of non-models owners in here who are jealous
After my Cygor it is time for my newest addition of monsterous creatures to my warherd
>>98649966I did like the kislev dlc vibe a decent amount. I enjoy the dark side of magic and shaman vibes, and the idea of hag witches binding chaos mutated werewolves to use as suicide troops is sick. I hope that's something they lean into
>Nothing stopping Chaos from putting your BSB on a DragonIs there any reason you wouldnt do this?Even a defensive banner on a wizard bunker seems pretty meh when that wizard can also ride a Dragon(?)
Do you think we’ll get dark elves soon? I don’t care about kislev even a little bit
>>98650452Great models and good uits, they always draw attention on the table.
>>98650454>hag witches binding chaos mutated werewolves to use as suicide troopsDoing too much. This is the type of whacky over the top shit they killed WHFB and created AoS for. It's not that it's not unique it interesting, it just has no place in classic warhammer fantasy, which is what TOW is supposed to be. Bringing back classic fantasy and then just making it the same vibe as AoS but with square bases just seems a bit silly and unappealing to me. That's why I was dismayed with the Cathay release and I can understand why that one or two historical autists keep advocating for Cossacks or polish Kislev
>>98650682The reason why Cathay is hated is because it’s TOO simple
>>98650700
Royal clans players: how do you deal with dragons without cannons? Multiple bolt throwers or do you run them down with your King?
>>98650682Kislev should be Ivanov's hyperborea with gunpowder and winged hussars.
>>98650784Is this how my ancient chude ancestors lived?
>>98650711why are americans like this?
>>98650711I really don't understand GW.Its target audience is formed by paypigs that don't paint, why don't they make some high quality minis that do not require to be painted like Gundam and Starcraft?
>>98650880why would GW care if consumer paint their minis or not?
>>98650711Is this physique achievable natty??
>>98650885to push paypiggers to pay more, but they already do, you are right, there is no need.
>>98650158Still trying too hard
>>98649834gw got out the way to make the whole army monopose and easy-to-build™, and named a green paint after it, so...yes?
>>98650774Bend down the other player over the table, usually.
>>98650774The same way every other army does. Stack CR, be ready to sacrifice a unit champion, and pray. Cannons don't kill dragons, by the way. That's not how TOW works.
>>98650268I may be looking at the wrong FAQ, but I see nothing that says that in the one I’m reading.
>>98650774There is bolt throwers and potentially a gun thane with a shit ton of rangers. That will force the dragon to engage. You can also build a very tanky king in a unit in addition to this, minimising favourabke targets.
>>98649094Why are the humans doing nothing about the lizards behind them. Are they stupid?
>>98651353the lizards have stone weapons literally incapable of piercing plate armour, only the krox is any threat.
>>98649094Stop posting slop.
>>98651361
>>98651353The retarded bot nigger faggot may have turned the image's details into mush, but there are men fighting the lizard men in the back.
>>98649094Stop doing the wierd AI OPs they look liek shit
>>98650700I think people have a problem with Cathay being too culturally and socially 'simple', not that they don't use enough magical effects and fantasy creatures interacting with each other for their soldiers.People don't complain that the Empire is too simple, and yet the majority of their models are 'Man with weapon' or 'Gun' or "Wizard that shoots fire/comets/beast energy". But the Empire has political disunity and struggles, multiple internal factions, religious diversity and multiple significant internal enemies.>>98651424Noticed this as well. Last time it was the same Alex Boyd art "upscaled" not it's "coloured"
>>98651255So it falls under regular infantry, where Ogres are Monstrous infantry so are not applicable to the Parry rule.
>>98651504the disunity in cathay is probably going to come from the dragon siblings squabbling amongst themselves, but miao is the only one out so far so we dont get to see that yet. once they get around to making the others, it will become more apparent that there are differing views within the country. also probably when/if the monkey king shows up too
>>98651520They could have shown that in the general descriptions of Cathay, they don't need to wait until the other Chinamarchs have released.If they do add more internal politics and flavour, as this stage it will certainly be in response to the fan reception of them not having enough.
>>98651548the armies only been out for like a year, give it some time. you're comparing it to factions like the empire which have 30 years of stories and maps to draw from
FACT: dwarftards are worse than imperiumlarpers>THAT'S GOING IN THE AUTISM DIARYokay spergy
>>98651579
>>98651614THATS GOING IN THE BOOK…’old on lemme just get the… grugni damned ladder…
>>98651258>>98651233How many guys do you tend to put into units? Four-wide 12-16 since they're heavy infantry or five-wide 15-20 guys for the cushion?
>>98651685I personally do 5 x 4 formation but I am not very meta aware. It really depends but a broader, longer line with less ranks works due to retaliatory attacjs if charged.
>>98651520Hopefully that BL has something about that, since apparently the author is a fan of Chinese history, so he should be very aware of that internal friction is key to that history
>>98650682>no place in classic warhammer fantasyYeah, just like Amazons with laser guns, Kung Fu cyborg monks, literal robots and Gatling gun ratmen, right?Warhammer was always wacky, only post-7th edition newfags would say otherwise.
>>98651730>post 7th edition 6th edition* I believe that is when there was a larger shift into the serious tome (and even? slightly before with Mordheim)
>>98651730>Kung Fu cyborg monksWhat are you referring to here?
>>98651738I wouldn’t say serious tone so much as just trying to make fantasy more like 40k. So you know, grim derp.
>>98651702>bskyHe will not be writing a single disparaging word about not!china, sorry anon
>>98650452I'm in a bit of a bind how I should paint these fellas, especially their upper body. Should I paint the skin the same pale tone as my beastmen (pic related) or go with some other skintone seeing as they aren't "proper beastmen" so to speak and thus not part of the herd in a way like the other beastmen are.
>>98651781Eishin Ogres
>>98651895That's just a Kung-fu fat Ninja; he doesn't have Cyborg parts at all
>>98651888Honestly, and I know a bunch of people hate this, take a good picture with upper body then feed it into chatgpt and try out different colorschemes.
>>98649503Lazy air-brush painters
Played my first 600pts game of high elves last night. What should I do for 1k /tg/ bros?List wasNoble - full plate, loremaster, dragon helm, sword of hoeth, high magic, general5 Ellyrian Reavers - spear, bow14 Lothern Sea Guard - full command, shields10 Swordmasters of Hoeth.5 Sisters of AvelornWas thinking of getting an eagle and dragon princes. Kind of also want to run a chad noble firing off 3 S5 shots from the relic bow every turn.
Whats a decent khadribrys proxy, I think the actual model is shit from butt. I do like the beast handlers though, Dont know if that makes me weird.
>>98652337What do you want to paint the most right now? If you like painting cavalry, get the dragon princes. If you want to paint a monster, get an eagle. Get a noble on a griffon or convert one to be on a chariot if you want a shooty noble that can also do other stuff.
>>98652357Is there a reason why dragon princes are only on horses? Why isnt there a profile for them to be on foot?
>>98651781Vengeance of the Lichmaster, which features the Kung Fu monks of the Maisontaal monastery; their leader has a pet battle robot and a mechanical arm.>>98651814Yeah, they tried to 40k-ify fantasy, which resulted in stuff like shit-coveres brets and a blurring of the aesthetics between the empire and the Imperium
So did Cathay leave room for /yourguy/ dragons or no
>>98652399I dont think it did unless you want to make your own longa (highly advisable as I think the longma is ugly as hell).
>>98652363Because that's what they are. They're from Caledor, they refuse to fight on foot. It's beneath them. They can't ride dragons anymore, so they ride horses instead. That's why they're called dragon princes.
>>98652399only in a lost primarch sort of way since the Dragon Emperor had 8 kids: five control the provinces of Cathay, one fucked off, and another died, which leaves one missing who presumably fell to Chaos or just decided to go somewhere else since they are never mentioned in any of the lore
>>98649094>TQ: fave terrainMy edge of Town terrain
>>98652399no, the dragon emperor and the moon empress only had 9 children, and they're all accounted for one way or another.technically we don't know what happened to any of the eastern dragons other than the dragon emperor, if they were even ever a thing, but it doesn't seem like cathayans would give a shit about dragons that aren't the royal ones.and technically nothing would have stopped the 9 dragon children to have incestuous dragon children between each other or with other dragons, but nothing suggests they did.at the very best you can make your own dragon-blooded shugengan, but they cannot shapeshift into dragons without headcanon.
>>98652456Sugar Pie Honey Bunch
Why should I play the 3rd edition? What made it good?
>>98651982Or just put a modicum of effort and take a photo of one and colorshift it in a program like photoshop. Sloppers always seem to have an excuse.
>>98652517Of WFB or WFRP?
>>98652527WFB.
What is your favorite new model?
>>98652607I like the mtos
>>98649045I think it has more to do with distinctiveness; Tilea or Estalia, if they weren't just represented by a rerelease of Dogs of War, would probably play like a modified version of the Empire army list, with maybe a few units dropped and added to make things a bit more distinct. I mean, to be honest, I'd fucking be down for that, but it probably wouldn't be as attractive to a prospective player as something brand new.
>>98652607I like the resin orc shaman and empire wizards.
>>98651982This took aprox. 5 second to do in gimp and now I have the layers to turn anon's beastmen tiger-striped or motley whenever I want.
>>98651511So you have nothing that says that specifically, ergo ogres can parry.
>>98652534if you can find someone to playw ith then sure
>>98652766Nvm, I’m retarded. Sorry.
>>98652864Meant for >>98651511Extra retarded apparently
>>98652766The parry FAQ erratta is specifically noted to be out under regular and heavy infantry. This does not include monstrous infantry, which ogrsmes are.
>>98652864>>98652869You're alright, the rules are a bitch to co-ordinate.
>>98652875That clicked a little late, my apologies. Sucks that they can’t parry but oh well.
Historically, how have dark elves performed if you dont take the warriors or crossbowmen?
>>98652875Man, monstrous infantry should have both parry and press of battle.
I hope dwarfs get some new runes in the next arcane journal or something, I'm happy for everyone getting new casting rules, magical items etc but also feel left out. They could bring stuff like rune of brotherhood, outflanking a Thane with my miners was always fun.
>>98649177Why do you need to hide your garage
>>98650812That's a UK tournament
How are dorfs and gobbos in tow these days?I'm going to visit my parents soon, they still have my wfb lying around somewhere. Skull pass iirc and an old dorf battalion.
>>98653451dwarfs are about as fun as they ever were, which is to say not at all. Gobblins on the other hand are fine.
>>98653451Dwarfs are boring to play and boring/horrible to play against Goblins are fun to play and generally tedious to play against, especially the staple of Night Goblins, fanatic spam.
>>98651922mordheim had a bionic eshin warior and a bionic rat ogre
>>98653451Can't speak for goblins, but as for dwarfs you get the regular dwarfs that are pretty much like the old ones except you can speed up a bit and have some fun with the characters that do more buffing now, slayer variant army that's just that, engineer variant army that doesn't get much "traditional" stuff but has thunderers and artillery that can move and shoot and a traditionalist variant army that doesn't get gunpowder or gyrocopters but extra melee and extra runic budget for your Alrik or norse dwarfs LARP.If you have your skull pass dwarfs then you can field roughly 600 points for a battle march game.
What makes dwarfs so unfun to play and fight?
>>98653706Castle builds aren’t fun and the one way they can play to win is basically just playing discount khadron overlords. It’s just the nature of the army being the way it is, same thing for wood elves but they seem to be out of a slump thanks to the fact they have mobility.
>>98653722I see. Glad I never had an interest in dwarfs.
I wish dark elves had some form of monstrous infantry. They should have more monsters in general.
>>98653706They have Movement 3, no mounts, and lots of ranged weapons and artillery. Each game will be stand still and shoot if you're playing with them or move forward and get shot if you're playing against.
>>98653706They're not, it's a skill issue.
>>98653706Castle shooting armies aren't fun to play against.X force is just really annoying skirmish shooting, which is also not fun.Their magic is just effectively going 'nope' when you try stuff.The alternative points denial build is also boring. It's 'dodge the unkillable brick' and then a bunch of unsatisfying 'ok so I hit the Warmachine.... It does....' combat with trash units.
>>98653753I am not spending 2 hours just to find out I lost the game because im stat checked.
>>98653741What monsters, besides the merwyrm, would you add? They have hydra, the tentacle faced fuck, manticore, dragons, pegasus.... And cold ones are basically monsters too
>>98653762Still a skill issue.
do (you) like classic grey ogres?
>>98653809It’s a bit dull innit? I wouldn’t paint em like that but I as long as the bases are nice and colorful I wouldn’t mind.
>>98653809Yes they are BASED and SOVLFUL
>>98653722>>98653745>>98653756I mean I agree that all of that sounds pretty boring, but I also think it’d be fun to see if my dudes were able to smash through them. >>98653753>>98653785I figured at least one dwarf player would show up
>>98653809No, I like pallid obeast monster ogres
>>98653706>What makes dwarfs so unfun to play and fightI agree it's a skill issue on both sides of the table.Dwarf players don't take advantage of the rules in TOW to keep their army manoeuvrable. Every single dwarf regiment can take drilled, meaning they can start the game in marching column, hustle up the board, then redress the ranks into combat formation before moving immediately again. They can all also march within 8" of enemy units to keep the pace up. Miners can appear across the table, rangers get scout and move through cover, so it's not like everything has to hustle across the table to get into position either. It's laziness on the dwarf players' part that has led to the army being viewed as a one trick pony stand and shoot gunline army. It's also very hard to lose a game with dwarfs if they castle up, which is again laziness and/or cowardice on the players' part.On the opponents' part, it's laziness again. They see a castled-up gunline across the table and don't think to themselves "this is interesting, a new challenge for me to figure out with the resources available to me", nor "oh cool this game is different and unlike the last 3 I played, it's fun to have variety", only "my regiments are crashing against the foe like waves on a rock, I'm not getting anywhere, nothing's happening, they're not moving and I'm not winning, there must be something wrong with this game, this is boring."
>>98653706They're not interactive, they stand still and they either kill your army before you had a chance to do anything with it, or your army reaches them and they have no chance to do anything but stand still and then dieIt's more fun to play alone at that point
>>98653383Because he stole the picture from a facebook group and the background change makes reverse search useless
So how does a Bretonian knight get a new steed if the one they have dies. Can he just grab any old horse, or does he have to be properly wed to it?
>>98653951I assume it all works like normal historical knights and he has backup horses, if he's rich enoughwith the caveat that I'm willing to bet that old world horses are built different to real horses and don't get so traumatised by combat, especially bretonnian horses
>>98653767Witch Elves the height of Ogres.
>>98653876>an actual educated opinionStop anon, you're supposed to parrot "gun bad, dwarf boring".
>>98653767a common point of wishlists during 8th was a monstrous infantry of khaine statues imbued with the souls of assassins not to say I'm a fan of that, I think the concept works better with a lone statue than with a unit of them, but I think anon might be thinking about those slave troglodytes would be fun too
>>98653876>On the opponents' part, it's laziness again.This 100%. I fucking love fighting against dwarfs with my beastwomen. They straight up surrender the flanks to me completely so ambush is great. Their ranged combat is countered by skirmish everything. Their heavy armor means nothing against my missle pigs, preyton, and characters in general. My magic like Primordial Gloom and Shaden Wodespan both aren't effected by their magic resist, and with the newest faq I think Strangleroot isn't either, but I'd have to go read that again cause the faq did make it so Strangleroot didn't need LoS to use, but it might still need to target the unit, not a point on the ground like a cannon. In either case, it's not particularly hard to cast for primal herd even with the MR. It's a fun match up.
>>98653876You had me until the last paragraph.
I mean, why wouldn't dwarfs be guardy and shooty from a lore standpoint?
>>98654068It’s not that they shouldn’t it’s that that’s all they have. Their inability to be proactive is what fucks them over.
>>98653876Dwarf pike and shotte would be great.
>>98653722>Castle builds aren’t fun and the one way they can play to win is basically just playing discount khadron overlordsMy main armies in WHFB and AoS respectively. Guess I am a bad person?
>>98654236You are, but not for playing Dwarfs, but for playing AoS.
I never seen anyone play AoS other than Spearhead. Either people proxy the models in other games (TOW) or hobby only.
When’s the next mto, ideally for chaos stuff. I want some of the old khorne goodies.
I recently won that AoS DoK shrine in a raffle my LGS was doing for an event. Since I'm running the beastmen in a narrative campaign with some buddies, I figured I may as well use some of it to make a herdstone.My idea is to sand down the top surface of the dais area on the bottom. At the front end of the platform, I'll put a crude stone altar surrounded by furs and silks (Slaaneshi brayherd) that I can make with greenstuff. At the back end of the platform, I'll place the smoking brazier from the shrine with that dark orb pooling above it (just drilled into place via a hole in the brazier), which will sit just ahead of the actual hearthstone. The rest of the top half of the shrine model won't be used at all, but the two columns on either side of the platform will be cut and sanded down unevenly to give the appearance that they are crumbling.In my head, it's supposed to be a shrine to some forgotten god that my brayherd has defiled and repurposed for the worship of their own dark god. I also need a ritual site terrain piece for my greater bray-shaman character, so this is my attempt to kill two birds with one stone.Thoughts? Ideas? Should I just make two separate pieces instead? Post herdstones for the dark gods.
>>98653919Perry manlet has been posting pics of those same building for years at this point, including in his original diorama staged "game" pictures
>>98654384How about something like this? Add all the beastmen stuff as well as you said, but add chains from the spikes to the points, paint that twirly blob on the bottom blood red, then add green stuff vines and such growing around it.
>>98654545I'm thinking about leaving the top half off because it reads too much as Dark Elf. Almost everyone in the campaign is centred around Tilea, the Border Princes area, or the Badlands. /Mydudes/ mainly operate out of Tilea, and while Dark Elf shit there isn't out of the question, the bottom half alone makes for a better (not)Roman base.Adding decorations to the columns sounds like a good idea, though. Stuff like vines, trophies, icons, or slaves would work well.
>>98654609Could turn the top half into a platform at the bottom. Just lay it horizontally leading from the pillars. But yeah it's very dark elf.
>>98654717I'm trying to be sparing with extravagant bits. Yeah, /mydudes/ are aligned with Slaanesh, which means they like finery and are more willing to work with humans than other beastmen, but they're still beastmen. Moreover, I was thinking about making the herdstone itself a big, desecrated Roman-esque statue that the herd has been dragging around. The Greek/Roman style would kinda be weird next to Dark Elf stuff, honestly.
It seems once again our superiority has caused some controversy.
>>98654870I'm the beastwomen slaanesh themed player. Different bent for /mydudes/ where the brayherd is led by a corrupted wood elf princess trying to torture, terrorize, and cause as much pain as possible to get revenge for the elves and other mortals for letting her kingdom die. Slaanesh gifted her beastwomen to achieve those goals.My herdstone doesn't travel with them. Instead their presence causes the local town fountain to start flowing black ichor and a giant bleeding rose grows from the spout. This acts as a beacon for the herd to find their next target.
>>98654887Khazukan Khazakit-ha!
Lahmia anon again. Chose to fuck around with green stuff today. Amateur results, but I'm not as ashamed as I should be. I think there might be another layer to be added after, hide the ugly parts from this first pass of sculpting.
>>98654919I remember you. You're the anon who can't paint worth a damn, but still puts more effort into the hobby than most other people.I respect you, beastbro.I've posted about /mydudes/ before as well. I should actually make a point of taking a picture of some of my recent work now that I've gotten all my faction leaders painted up. My custom ungor skirmishers are still a fucking mess, though. Sculpting digitigrade legs on blissbard archers is suffering, but I've started making 3D references, which has eased the process some.>>98654943Don't beat yourself up, anon. It's good work for little experience. You can already redo any work you don't like - or practice with Play-Doh or that modelling clay that only sets when you bake it, if you don't have the money to afford fuck ups.
Would I be being a bad opponent if I run 3x10 blocks of Quarrelers and 2x10 Rangers to give my Warriors and other footslogging melee infantry a lot of covering fire? Maybe with Runesmiths and a Runelord attached?
>>98655055Thanks mate. I'm leaning towards getting my models painted for me since it does bug me I can't make them look like I think they should.
>>98655098no, dwarf shooting isnt even that good. i sent a block of 10 rangers shooting into some 6+ save light cav for 3 turns straight and only managed to kill one horse. the only dwarf shooting unit really worth a damn is irondrakes, but even they have been pretty heavily nerfed in the FAQ. and i guess the thane with the turbo handcannon setup. thunderers, quarrelers, and rangers are melee units with some bonus shooting, not shooting units. also dwarf artillery is very mid, possibly even outright bad.
>>98655136You will get better anon, you just need to keep putting in effort. Don’t give up.
>>98655200I been painting like this for 28 years. I don't think I will. I thought I would for a long time.
>>98655205Have you studied it at all? The way I learned to paint decently is by following tutorials step by step.
Why is EVERY single beastman fan an autistic retard?
>>98655218Back in highschool and college yeah. But then I got tagged by a 480V 3 phase welding generator and now my arms shake at all times. Then add in the colorblind. Shit sucks man.
>>98655220Why are you cursed to be the height of a woman? Are you a manlet because you are cruel? Or cruel because you are a manlet? These are questions that few if any can answer.
>>98655250Oh that does suck, I have shaky hands too, although probably nowhere near yours. Have you watched the bracing YouTube videos for people with shaking hands due to disorders? It’s linked in the /wip/ threads. That really helped me improve.
>>98655257huh. I'll check that out
>>98655277This is a new low
>>98655264>>98655250This onehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oqp76vAJu9g
Reckon I can fit these on 20mm squares?
>>98655055Thanks anon. I'm actually kind of happy with the greenstuff results the more I look at the models, I'm sure they'll clean up good with a bit of care, some cleanup, and a coat of paint. Most of my projects start with me hating them until I psyop myself into liking them.
>>98655534Maybe? Someone must've done it. Although TOW uses 25mm.
>>98655682I base for 6e and use trays to change spacing.
>>98655252Finally a reason to post my favorite passage of all time.
>>98655534yeah, you have to place some of the more dynamic ones diagonally but they rank up fine.
>>98655844Thanks dude, cheers.
Does anyone know if the TK chariot is a recycled old undead model like the skeleton warriors were?
>>98655294What did he post this time?
>>98655098Unless you two rank them on hills they'll take up most of your deployment zone.And as stated dwarfs are mostly bad at actual shooting (exceptions being rangers and some other high BS units). You might be better off taking one unit of thunderers or quarrerels, attaching Burlok to them and putting a cannon next to them. He really buffs them.
>>98655879only the undead horses themselves are recycled old models in that case
>>98655925Thank you.
>>98651730You are using the exact same logic as the >OMG you can handle DRAGONS in your fantasy but not heckin swarthy gentlemen and whamen warrior girlbossies?!?~!retards, you do get that right? Of course Warhammer has fantastical elements, it's a fucking fantasy setting, the problem is when these elements are treated as the meat rather than the sauce.
>>98655885Himself shitting on the toilet and he typed out shit and fart sounds
>>98655879This is the old undead chariot
>>98654054>you had me until you 100% accurately called me out
>>98655957There was a conspicuous lack of reasoning as to how you play into a gunline and a whole load of bloviating that could be summed up in a three words as "just think, bro".
>>98653876fighting gunlines doesn't add variety, they're all the same, play the same, and way too common; "the resource available to you" are the vast majority of the time just empty tables, there's no fun puzzle to solve or tactic to try.your regiments WILL be crashing against the foe like waves on a rock, you WILL not be getting anywhere, nothing WILL be happening, they WILL not be moving, there WILL be something wrong with that game, and that WILL be boring.
>>98655970Not him but I made that post you're discussing. I'm not doing your work for you bro. "You didn't tell me how to win" = laziness. Git gud
>>98656006The resource available to you is your army list dumdum. Dude is fixating on the empty table in front of him while he moves his models across it on autopilot lol this is why you don't win against dwarfs
I'm curious, what's considered a "fun" army to play against?
>>98656022I suspect that it's more to do with the fact that you don't know how to make playing into a gunline fun.
>>98654943SOVL
>>98656026You mean the army list you aren't supposed to tailor make for this one opponent? the army list instead built to handle a more varied and fun enemy? that army list? the one with wizards whose spells are negated, monsters that get shot down turn one by cannons, and infantry units that are only going to meet the enemy if they are going to walk straight down the firing lane for 3 turns? that army list?or are you going to magically transform the troops into car and roll out in an exciting new gameplay you won't conveniently ever mention?
>>98656071But enough about Tomb Kings, let's talk about dwarfs.
>>98656072>Tomb Kings>cannons
>>98656073It's a joke son, don't overthink it.
>>98656076that's not overthinking, you didn't think your joke at fucking all
>>98656088And now you're getting mad over a joke.
>>98656031Supposedly orcs and goblins. Win or lose, you tend to kill a lot of them, so at least it is satisfying.
>>98656071In the end, all the problems with the game are fixed by simply taking more infantry. What are they going to do, shoot dead your two blocks of 80 goblins ?
Which edition's army books are worth collecting for the sake of comfy reading rather than necessarily the best army lists? The Arcane Journals are sorely lacking in the lore department.
>>986561745th edition was kina peak in that regard and Realms of Chaos are uncontested in how good they are.
>>98656174Realms of Chaos, Champions of Chaos, Orcs and Goblins, Dwarfs, Empire for 4th/5th ed.6th Beasts of Chaos, Orcs abd Goblins, Dwarfs.
>>98656166Fuck yeah we are going to try to do just that!
>>986561746E was when they peaked - fun, flavourful and MOSTLY balanced.
>>98656208I do think 6th edition had the best army books in terms of presentation and art. Maybe 5th did too, I liked how the 5th edition VC and Bretoonian books put together. However, I did not get into the game proper until 2006.
>>98656233I have to disagree, the only bad looking thing about those books was the Empire cover since they did nothing with the armors and half of the cover was just a silver blob.
>>986561746th edition for the atmosphere, 7th or 8th for the fluff density if an army has a book in both 7th and 8th just get one or the other, for the most part they're copy pasting.personally I like 7th ed ones a lot and prefer them over the 6th ed ones, if I have to choose only one, but you gotta weigh that for yourself.
>>98656174Not armybooks, but these two are really cool, I wish they had made one for greenskins.
>>98656299What would the name be to keep the theme with these two?Liber Orcus, Liber Goblinoid?the 4e WFRP book is a decent read if you want more Orc and Goblin fluff though
>>98656326>4e WFRP book The main rulebook or is there a specific greenskin WFRP book?
>>98656330The Ork and Goblin book specific book Tribes and Tribulations
>>98656337Bless you man.
Do people playing x-force ever do an air cav style list by fielding the maximum amount of gyrocopters? Was it effective?
>>98656358>do people do [most popular tournament winning list] ?
>>98656407I don't play at those or study the meta, I just play with my friends and gaming buddies.
Excuse me for intruding.I am of making research in warhammer history and this is a subject you must be knowledged in.Did you ever use Strigany on table top?Did you ever see anyone use them?I tried digging the internet but never seem to find any pictures or mentions of anyone ever using this unit.Thank you very much.
>>98656415That would be almost unheard of for a number of reasons. The lists at the back of the book were optional and were not event compliant so the chances of people using them were slim. The fact that most people in 6th also played mainly ampng local friends made it slimmer. But to answer, no I do not. Strigoi vampires on the other hand were meant to be used here and there.
>>98656490Thank you very much.
>>98656415I'm still surprised how many of the world ending evil as fuck armies could take Dogs of War back in the days. I understand it for the other vampire clans but not for these guys.
>>98656174Tamurkhan
>>98655534You canMight need to repose one in 5 of them.You can also cheat using varied elevations on bases
>>98656326The framing device I'd have for such a book would be that of an imperial scholar making an elaborate thesis about greenskins, trolls, ogres and other such creatures, only for him to get captured by orcs&goblins in one of his last excursions, and having various hijinks such as him being forced to teach them how to read and write, just so they can tell whether what he's written is an insult or something, even if they give it for granted, as well as for having the scholar make further notes about they are actually scary quick learners, or other corrections at the sides of the pages on his previous assumptions to show both the point of view of a common man and that of someone who actually knows greenskins.And that would allow me also to have the last pages of the book, with the scholar's final considerations and important revelations or solutions to the greenskin problem be visibly torn off the book and scribbled over by orcs.And also the name of the book would be "liber WAAARGH!!!" because the greenskins would have defaced the cover as well by writing over the original title.
>>98656415Did you happen to post on /twg/ by any chance?>>>/vg/580595472>>>/vg/580595770
>>98656516The Vampire could have a shit ton of gold ready under his castle and the mercenaries could simply be that desperate. That, or the Vampire simply threatens them and I don't think many Dogs of War are in any position to turn down a vampire threatening their lives.
>>98656415ghouls saw play a lot during 7th when they were one of the better performing optionsstrigoi ghoul kings mainly in 8th with the terrorgheist kitotherwise the subtype of vampire would see massive popularity only with age of sigmar thanks to an absurdly good bundle box and an ingenious enough fluff reinvention to make them an independent and fully supported faction now.
Thank you for the recommendation if this book. It was great to read how Orcs are capable of protection rackateering, some negotiation and in other ways, even show mercy due to the sheer pathetic nature of a foe. Is there a Chaos or Undead version of this?
>>98656540Yes.
>>98656551>ghouls saw play a lot during 7thit might have been 8th with the 7th armybook. I don't remember exactly.
>>98652607I honestly like those new TK ones
>>98656601I don't like tomb kings having horses instead of chariots or some other weirder mount like an undead camel or chimeric statue.I get that it's perfectly possible in this case, I just don't like it.
>>98656575>Is there a Chaos or Undead version of this?There are smaller PDFs that are basically like one section from that O&G book. One is called Bayl of Many Eyes and is about a Nurgle WoC warband, and another is a weird undead procession in the Reikland called The Night Parade.Undead might get a full book for WFRP5e in the future, since C7 is releasing more Vampire/Undead related book after the Sylvania splat book went up for pre-order
>>98656619Will track it down, thanks. I like how the RPG book for orcs shows they got a bit more fluidity in their personality, ironically deeper than Goblins it seems, who seem far more sadistic and cruel. Also amazing a troll can survive a full vivisection like it was just a bad night at the bar.
>>98656630tbf that was a Chaos troll
>>98656637True but, cool fluff non the less. The named two headed troll sounds cool as well, almost sadistic. Appears in the distance from victims, then ambushes them just as they reach the town. Thing also seems like a giant with the stat block. The very fact trolls can rudimentarily ambush victims is funny to imagine. As bad as they are in TT, i love trolls. So characterful.
I have a GW store in my city.If I were interested in playing Old World what would be the minimum investment needed for an army?
>>98656658Battlemarch boxRulebookDiceTape measureGluePaintsPaintbrushes
>>98656658It depends on whether your local scene plays the battle march format or only the full 2000pts games format
>>98656662Would that be more expensive or cheaper than just buying the core box?
>>98656667Core box will be cheaper as, AFAIK, it comes with the rulebook. If you are happy with its content, core box, glue, paints/brushes etc. Oh and dice.
>>98656666>>98656662Alternative question please no anger. How does Old World compare to AoS or 40K in terms of overall costs?
>>98656674>>98656667But I don't like neither chaos nor Cathay. :/
>>98656674Doesn't the core box come with Dice?
>>98656676That I don't know but from my personal experience, TOW can be cheap if you go as say 750 points or Battle March level. Cheap by comparison that is. The Battle March boxes are around 120-150 euro/dollars.
>>98656680You're right, it does!
>>98656679Then the buy in going to be slightly higher
>>98656698>>98656683>>98656666>>98656662Thanks
>>98656676Generally, newer products cost more, so TOW may have some cheaper stuff because it's selling older plastic kits in bigger bundles.But there are some caveats, some 40k or aos armies can be made relatively cheaply because they contain only a few models, while TOW is only really cheap when you avoid pricey metal stuff or if you don't have some big points sink like a overly charged lord character.If you can, avoid buying from gw directly and instead use a local game store or online retailer that offers a discount, you can rather easily find -20% or -25% on products, even new ones, while on the used market you can get stuff like -30% or -50% even on practically new shit.
Hey, Pastebin Anon!You still haven't seen my email; update your pastebin!
>>98650880GW is the one selling the paint. The requirement of painting means the paypigs also buy hundreds of pots of it for when they "finally get round to it"
>>98656774The vast majority of people don't paint their shit though.But I do wonder how many of those who don't paint still end up buying paints.
>>98656326Liber gobboLiber waaagh
>>98656783I'd guess they hoard paints the same way they hoard unoppened boxes
>>98651888It's a good opportunity to add variety in the army, but if you want them to look more like the rest of your army that would work as well.For my dogres I went with a similair but slightly different scheme compared to the rest.
>>98656676It's probably slightly cheaper when it comes down to it, but that depends a lot on the choices you make. TOW generally uses more models, but they tend to be less expensive individually if you're buying the older plastics. Outliers definitely exist though, and if you're playing a horde army (large volume of models) or going for old metal models, or proxying a lot of stuff from AoS, it can get very pricey. Are you interested in any specific army?
>>98656658Are you okay with third party models?If so, around 50$If not, around 500$ and it is considered cheap for gw game
>>98651888Maybe just use the same colors but reverse priority ? That way they are different yet still match the colors of the army.So instead of having gors with> pale skin, blonde hair, red and pale green detailsyou go with something like >red (or pale green) legs, blonde skin, pale detailsfor dogres
>>98656851>>98656975I actually found a skintone I want to try, then contrast it with a bright red scheme for the scales (think classic fantasy dragons). It could look pretty good.
>>98656358I want to see more of that karak in the background.
>>98656946He said it’s a GW store, so no third party models
>>98655055Do you have the scans you used for those slaanesh marauders?
>>98656676Just totaled up my 2k lists for AoS and TOW. It’s an IJ and WoC list respectively:AoS - $928TOW - $731.50Ofc ymmv
I'm not putting goblins on 25mm no matter what. Will people be mad?
>>98657127not really, you can have them on 20mm bases on a slightly spaced movement tray with zero issue.If you don't want a spaced movement tray either the only real problems may come out when you're hit by a template (because more of your dudes will be hit), or when you somehow give them multiple attacks or are fought by guys with multiple attacks (because then more of your multi-attack models will be in direct base contact and do their multiple attacks, or because fewer than the enemy's multiple attack models will be in direct contact and do their multiple attacks). But if you and your opponent are gentlemanly you won't have a single issue killing or sparing one or two goblins in any situation.
>>98656676It depends what army you play in what game and where you buy it from. Stormcast and Space Marines are in so many releases that they're super cheap to buy secondhand. TOW doesn't have such a format now, but the models are older and come in larger boxes, which makes them slightly cheaper, but they're usually old models which makes the pricing a little annoying. Ogres for either TOW or AOS are probably the cheapest overall army, at least with the older models (GW replaced them recently for AOS but a ton of older boxes are still around). To give a very direct comparison, ironguts are armoured ogres in both games. In AOS, 6 ironguts is 400 points. In TOW, 6 ironguts starts at 234 points. But if you were to give the champion a magic weapon, and the banner bearer a magic banner, and buy all the upgrades, you can increase the cost to 347 points. TOW has a lot more point cost granularity which also makes the question harder to answer. However, 40k has more players than any other tabletop wargame put together so it's probably the safest 'investment'. The issue is just that the game is also the least fun.
>>98656541That, or the vampire uses an intermediary to get them to show up on his side, and by the time of the battle its too late to turn tail, what with them being surrounded by monsters
What is up with all the slop images lateley? It looks like shit.
>>98654887I like their aesthetic but not their playstyle.
>>98657222It's one faggot
>>98657312But he's the only guy willing to make threads
>>98657335No, if he didn't make them others would, as it's been done for years and years, he's just running to be the one making them first because he has to post his slop like the maggot he is.
>>98657302Thats fair. I don’t castle with them, but appreciate that overall they’re gonna do what they do well and reliably. But I understand they aren’t the most interesting army to play.
>>98655543>Most of my projects start with me hating themI'm the same way. I just have to get over that initial hump of the early work. Once I trust the process and things start coming together, I tend to be pretty happy with my work.>>98657065They're not scans. I used pictures of existing models and modified them into a rough approximation of what I'm looking to do by using AI. Once I have that, I use AI again to render the images into 3D models, which I can use as reference material for sculpting (or simply print off if I give up on my current project). As I mentioned in my other post, I used the AoS blissbarb archers as a base. You can do what I did fairly easily if you spend a couple of minutes searching for reference shots of all 10 sculpts.
So, has anyone seen the Cathay Loremaster video?Is it just the contents of the AJs with nothing else?
>>98657302Well there's more than one way to play them as they can be a mobile army od they want despite what some people say, but I get you. The one thing I miss missing out on how fun magic can be outside of anvil with them is that too many runes are just +1 to something and not enough that do something unique or interesting. Not saying they should just let runepriest use more runes as some sort of spell scrolls to shoot fireballs but... you know actually a few blast spells in rune form could be fun.
>>98657517Wow. No wonder GW is super anal about sharing sprues now
>>98657545I agree with Rune magic and item runes needing a bit more flavor. Maybe some runes that function like bound spells? I swear it was a thing in older army books?
>>98657745Maybe in 8th since I don't have anything like that in 6th and 6.5th, at least to the best of my recollection. But could could add fun stuff that modify your list like bring back the rune of brotherhood.
>>98657531>Is it just the contents of the AJs with nothing else?you can bet on it
>>98657811In 8th stacking some runes gave you special effects, like getting a rune of fire gave you flaming attacks like usual, but stacking two on your weapon gave a flame breath attack.
>>98657609The images I posted before were made using the 360 model viewer on GW's own site. As a point of reference, here's a basic bitch witch elf I made using the second gallery image on GW's site.There's basically no reason not to use AI to test out ideas before committing to them.
>>98658109That's pretty awesome, and a clever use of AI.Also, BOOBAAA!! DElf MILKIES!! O.O
Deep in a dark forest of the Empire, a terrible ritual is taking place around a freshly unearthed mysterious spire covered in glowing runes. Four armies fight to control the wyrd stone and empower their own wizard's spells. However, it won't be easily approached as a chaos sorcerer and his 20 chaos warriors body guards protect it.
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>>98658936The Tomb Prince decides to pierce through the dense forest to go for the chorf artillery.
>>98658946The demons pepper the chaos warriors from afar while sending some of their forces to the TK side.
>>98658955Ulfric's guard consider a charge but faced with 18 blunderbuss they wisely decide take a turn and go for the chaos warriors defending the spire instead.
>>98658966The Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher gets destroyed by the Prince. With everything being difficult terrain the chorfs can't move more than 2" or 4" with a march. They couldn't protect it.
>>98658979So instead they just shot the prince to redeath. Hah!
>>98658984Forgot the take more pic but the white wolves will charge the sorcerer, the sorcerer will challenge their general and kill him and will then proceed to flee while the horrors fight the tomb kings and overrun straight into the objective in the last turn, winning the game because they have more US than the teutogen guard. Typical Tzeentch.
I know there was a anon here talking about some Fantasy Conquistador modelsMight be worth looking at these >https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cesarosconquistadors/cesaros-conquistadors
>>98658936It's nice seeing someone else put those 5th ed chaos warriors on the table. Good to know someone else likes them. Let that guy know some random anon online thinks he has excellent taste in chaos warriors. Also, excellent battle report, anon. Thank you for posting it.
>>98655055>>98657156>>98659466Got some more printed today. Needed more Gors so made new models up. 10-15 made today depending how the prints go.
>>98658927>>98658936>>98658946>>98658955>>98658966>>98658979>>98658984>>98659004Kino overload genuinely. I love these kind of game posts.
>>98659520Look like shit
>>98659829That’s only because your eyes are at ass level. For us normal sized people who can see past the asshole it’s actually a bunch of cool minis.
Dont rememver if I shared it, did a drawing about happy nurgling
>>98660047Disgustingly cute!
The Chaos Dragon is so big it doesn't fit in the largest carrying case GW sells lmao
>>98660170This should be hard to transport
>>98660170deserved, honestly. it looks like shit. You could could get a better looking dragon from archons.
>>98660170GW cases are overpriced trash like everything GW sells. That one is from GSW and it seems to fit fine.Personally I tend to magnetize the wings of big monsters for that reason.
I think I will go to the store and buy a Necrosphinx as a start to my Tomb King army
>>98660170He's a big guy. Not Galrach big but a big guy nonetheless.
>>98656666Digits.
>>98660170Glad to see those rotswords(?) rank up.
I want to do Kislev, but I am thinking of starting on a project in the meanwhile. I really want an all metal vintage sculpts only. I think the 4th-5th edition dwarf metal are the best miniatures GW ever put out. And are so characterful that my hobby dream is to own a large 2500-3000pt vintage dwarf throng.
Every time Cathay was depicted as nuanced, morally grey, or at least not perfectly benevolent or flawless:Edition: Armies of Grand Cathay.>Internal Rebellions:Explicit mention of internal rebellions rocking the stability of Cathay (p. 5).>Demonic Manipulation: Daemons whispering to the Dragon Emperor in his dreams, begging for his assistance to bypass the polar gates (p. 5).>The Tragedy of Shiyama:Shiyama leading her army into the Realm of Chaos, only for foul sorcery to delude her into slaughtering her own fleeing soldiers (p. 8).>Tragic Friendly Fire:Miao Ying’s army executing the retreating Shiyama because Chaos illusions masked her as a daemonic threat (p. 8).>Orwellian Memory Wiping: The Moon Empress executing a continent-wide mind-wipe using Yin magic to erase any memory of Shiyama ever living among mortals (p. 9).>The Vulnerability of Absentees: Mention of the turmoil, political fracturing, and disharmony that immediately erupted during the latest departure of the Emperor and Empress (p. 11).>Utilitarian Sacrifice: The Emperor, unable to save the Sky Titans, choosing to weaponize a radioactive Warpstone meteor as a last resort to wipe out the Ogre migration (p. 14).>Fear of the Undead: The Dragon Emperor harboring deep fear and anxiety regarding the rise and raw power of Nagash (p. 16).>Political Fracturing: Human noble houses actively scheming and plotting mutiny behind Miao Ying’s back right inside Nan-Gau (p. 27).>Hazardous Weapons of War: The creation of Warpstone Sentinels, crafted from clay laced with warpstone dust; soldiers stationed near them quickly succumb to mutation and the taint of Chaos (p. 37).>Necromantic Magic: The Lore of Yin actively blurring the line of life and death by literally ripping ghosts and spirits out of the underworld (p. 47).
>>98660703Who is Shiyama?Also>The Emperor, unable to save the Sky Titans, choosing to weaponize a radioactive Warpstone meteor as a last resort to wipe out the Ogre migration (p. 14).Dragon Emperor is responsible for the Great Maw?
>>98660196Or Reaper or basically anywhere for like a fifth of what GW is charging.
Every time Cathay was depicted as nuanced, morally grey, or at least not perfectly benevolent or flawless:Edition: Dawn of the Strom Dragon.Unfortunately, I did not find the slightest nuance, ambiguity, or flaw in the way Cathay is described in this Arcane Journal.
>>98660716>Who is Shiyama?1st born dragon children.>Dragon Emperor is responsible for the Great Maw?Yes.
>>98660681Are you made out of money? Like I'd live to have one too but scalpers will eat you up.
Every time Cathay was depicted as nuanced, morally grey, or at least not perfectly benevolent or flawless:Edition: The Breaching of the Great Bastion (1/3).>Incompetent Governance:Direct mention of massive internal disharmony gripping Cathay whenever the Emperor and Empress depart, largely because most of the Dragon-children are fundamentally bad at ruling their provinces (p. 4).>The Deception of Shiyama: Shiyama and her entire army being easily tricked by Tzeentch into turning on one another and slaughtering their own ranks (p. 6).>Tragic Illusions: Tzeentch casting illusions over Shiyama and her surviving men, causing other Cathayan forces to mistake them for monsters and execute them (p. 6).>Lingering Corruption: Explicit mention that the Celestial Dragon Emperor and his children struggled immensely to cleanse the lingering taint of Chaos from their lands, even after securing a major victory (p. 7).>Ecological Devastation: The Dragon Emperor intentionally dragging down a radioactive Warpstone meteorite to crush the Ogres, poisoning and permanently corrupting the once-verdant grasslands of Western Cathay in the process (p. 7).>The Emperor's Schemes: When the Monkey King attacked Southern Cathay, the Emperor strictly forbade Li Dao from retaliating; instead, the Emperor chose to trick the Monkey King using a compliance-enforcing magic crown (p. 7).>Fallibility of the Dragons: Chaos forces successfully wounding the supposedly "immortal" Miao Ying in open battle, shattering the myth of the Dragon-children's invincibility (p. 8).>Unchecked Lawlessness: Mention of a massive surge in pirate raids completely destabilizing the Cathayan coastline around the year -1357 (p. 8).
>>98657127the patrician choice
So, I've been toying around with starting yet another army, a small one for games of battle march, just to break the routine.Thinking Wood Elves, as they seem like a fast, yet squishy army, very different from Chaos and VC, which I already have. I've built a tentative list, mostly focused on stuff I like, whilst also trying to keep a low-ish model count, as I tend to be a slower painter.Forest hippies [497 pts]++ Characters [121 pts] ++Glade Captain [121 pts] - Hand weapon- Great weapon- Light armour- Shield- Swiftshiver Shards- General- Elven Steed- Asyendi's Bane- Aspect of the Bear++ Core Units [136 pts] ++5 Glade Guard [60 pts] - Arcane Bodkins4 Glade Riders [76 pts] - Reserve Move- Trueflight Arrows++ Special Units [221 pts] ++7 Wardancers [119 pts] - 7x Additional hand weapon2 Tree Kin [102 pts] ++ Rare Units [19 pts] ++1 Wood Elf Beast Pack [19 pts] - 1x Deepwood HoundAny thoughts, suggestions?I have zero experience with WEs, neither playing with them or against them, so any input would be welcome.>Pic for attention
>>98660822Every time Cathay was depicted as nuanced, morally grey, or at least not perfectly benevolent or flawless:Edition: The Breaching of the Great Bastion (2/3).>Negligent Leadership & Cult Outbreaks: The infamous Cult of Chi'an Chi (Tzeentch) spreading completely unchecked in the city of Beichai for a millennium (-1200 to -200) because Yin-Yin preferred sailing the world over doing her job. By the time she finally begged her father for help, a massive number of cultists managed to escape into the interior (p. 8).>Vampiric Infiltration: The ancient vampire Harakhte successfully settling down within Cathay, integrating into its societal fabric (p. 8).>Astrological Chaos: Morrslieb’s corrupting influence causing catastrophic storms of raw magic and triggering a massive spike in internal cultist activity in the year -666 (p. 8).>Frustrated Defense: Further mention of the Monkey King raiding Southern Cathay while the frustrated Fire Dragon (Li Dao) was explicitly ordered by the Emperor to sit back and not retaliate (p. 8).>Indifferent Sovereigns: Dark Elven Corsairs ruthlessly raiding Eastern Cathay, yet Yin-Yin stubbornly refused to protect the coast until her father finally ordered her to take an active role in Cathay's defense (p. 8).>Imperial Failure: Mention of the catastrophic, failed naval expedition to the Southlands in the year 1690 (p. 9).>Sibling Rivalry: While Miao Ying and Yuan Bo desperately try to steady the empire during the Emperor and Empress's absence, their siblings stubbornly refuse to offer any assistance (p. 9).>Fractured Alliances: When Chaos forces assaulted the Great Bastion in 2101, Miao Ying begged for assistance, but only the Jade Dragon responded, pushing relations between the Dragon-children to an absolute breaking point (p. 9).>The Retribution of the Monkey King: Breaking entirely free of the Dragon Emperor's magical influence, the Monkey King successfully launches a massive invasion into Cathay in 2163 (p. 9).
>>98653722Discount what?
>>98660946Every time Cathay was depicted as nuanced, morally grey, or at least not perfectly benevolent or flawless:Edition: The Breaching of the Great Bastion (3/3).>Authoritarian Draconian Laws: Mention that merely setting foot in the Forest of the Moon without explicit permission from the Emperor or his children is treated as a horrific, major crime (p. 11).>Ruined Cities: The historical record that the city of Po Mei was utterly razed to the ground during past Chaos invasions, proving Cathay's walls are far from impenetrable (p. 13).>Unresolved Border Perils: Regular reports of Beastmen warherds and rogue bandits freely terrorizing the Baleful Hills in Western Cathay (p. 14).>Haunted Wastelands: The city of Xen Wu in Western Cathay being completely annihilated by the creation of the Great Maw; rumors still persist of ghosts and daemons haunting the ruins (p. 14).>Forgotten Lands: The dangerous Wastelands of Jinshenn in Western Cathay being left to monsters and desperate outcasts who scavenge among abandoned villages and forgotten settlements (p. 14).>Lost Potency: Because the Dragon Emperor is absent, no one is capable of manipulating the vital Wu Xing Compass to its full, reality-shaping potential—not even the master administrator Yuan Bo (p. 19).>Unorthodox Machinations: Zhao Ming’s armies relying heavily on dangerous mercenaries and highly volatile, experimental war machines due to his tolerance for rogue alchemy and foreigners, drawing intense disapproval and paranoia from his siblings (p. 20).
>best to play againstO&GSkavenBeastmenChorfs>worst to play againstCathayBretonniaDorfsWoC
>>98660995What does the WoC army list look like in this scenario, because I feel like they're so varied that they could be fun or shit
>>98661003Assume a relatively casual list for all armies mentioned, but since WoC is so varied, I'll narrow it down>Timmy Lord on dragon>1-2 units of Chaos Knights>2-3 blocks of WoC>rest is marauders or spawn
>>98660995I can agree with O&G, my opponents even if they lose, at least come away with they slaughteted an ungodly amount of my army.
>>98660995Bretonnia sucks to play against because they're so goddamn swingy. Either their knights all shit themselves and die to shooting and failed charges or they win as soon as they make base contact. Exile list should be how the default army plays, stronger infantry and weaker (but still very viable) cav.
>>98660995>best for my army to fight against >worst for my army to fight against FTFY
>>98659292>>98659719Cheers lads. Soon the Empire and the Tomb Kings will join forces to lay siege to the chaos dwarf's fortress. Should be fun.
Looking for a bow that I could use as a Dragon Bow for my Ostland general on a pegasus, any suggestions? Was looking to glue it onto the side of the pegasus or have it in some sort of holster as I wanted to have him holding his lance and will be giving him a shield on his left arm.
>>98660681I am desperate for GW to do a MTO run of these guys.
Dis boi nearly doneWaiting for putty to cure so I can finish it
>>98661341Fantastic stuff there anon.
>>98661317why wait for your corporate overlord, find your nearest recaster that does mto for old models every day of the week
>>98661356None of the recasters I've used have had fantasy models let alone those dwarfs.
>>98661341good shit mang
New thread:>>98661433
New dwarf "unit": enemy treasure pile. You get to place it in the enemy deployment zone and as long as you move towards it your infantry increases their movement by one.
>>98661358lurk moar?
>>98661559i really hate vagueposts like this. "oh ho ho ho i know a recaster who has exactly what you are looking for but i wont tell you who they are or where to find them"
>>98661662that's the thing with recasters you have to find out by yourself (wich isn't too dificult honestly), this one is 'mf'just get into the yoyhammer subreddit
>>98661662>SPOONFEED MEEEEEEEEnah
>>98661551I want a new unit for dwarfs thats like a herdstone called something like Bunker. Operates like a 10 man building as per the rules but with the following changes. It doesnt take the extra damage from artillery and when a unit moves out of the bunker it uses foxholes so it can be placed anywhere with 18" of the bunker but not within 8" of the enemy.
>>98661559Are they at least metal?
