What is /awg/?A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre. Let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.>Examples of games that qualify.A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,Deadzone, Dragon Rampant, Dropfleet & Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Full Spectrum Dominance,Gaslands, HeroClix, Kings of War, Lords & Legends,Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,Oathmark, OnePageRules, Open Combat, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam,SAGA, Sahipkıran, Sludge, Space Weirdos, StarCraft, Stargrave, Sword Weirdos,Urban War, Void Admiral, Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenos Rampant, Xenotactics......and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.>Examples of companies providing rules and/or miniatures for alternative wargames.Archon Studio, Atomic Mass Games, Black Site Studios, CMON, Goblin King Games, Lucid Eye, Mantic,North Star Military Figures, OnePageRules, Osprey, Para Bellum, Seb Games, Spellcrow, TTCombat,Victrix, Wargames Atlantic, Warlord Games......and many other publishers.>Places to get minis; Updates to the minis list are welcome.https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D2DbNJ2mYAUxh5P9Pq9NZqS5tXHGn0i2JhZchEwbA2I/edithttps://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373197.page>Novice Troves, meant to serve as a sampler of available systems. Check out the Share Thread for up-to-date troves.https://pastebin.com/MjtsC8AXhttps://mega.nz/#F!zSYW0I4a!vXh8-UPi_tWXpJES_-p4zgPrevious Thread:>>98582497 >Thread QuestionWhat's the last /awg/ you played?
Actual previous bed because I forgot to edit >>98615801TQ: Frostgrave, it was fun.
>>98649467>Little Wars: a game for boys from twelve years of age to one hundred and fifty and for that more intelligent sort of girl who likes boys' games and booksKek, foid interests confirmed inferior
>>98649467>>Thread Question>What's the last /awg/ you played?I posted about it last bread
>>98649829What is this a game for ants?
>>98649467Who /firelock 198x/ here?
Industry knowledge: if you want anything from Heresy Miniatures buy it soon, I know the guy does sales nearly every month when he's short on rent, but he's closing for good soon.
>>98650279been looking at it, the setting is neat, but not too high on my "to-try" list at the moment
>>98650810>Industry knowledgeDoes industry knowledge mean reading the home page now?
>>98650971TQ: Xenos RampantIndustry knowledge can also mean subscribing to companies newsletters! The bar is pretty low these days.That reminds me that I ought to write to reaper and ask them about when certain items, like pic related and the new monstrous scorpions will be back in stock.
>>98650982Share here when you do that model is sweet.
>>98650994Sorry, I planned to paint my current backlog first... Maybe in a month or so?
>>98651006>current backlog>monthMine is like a decade even if i turned into a painting monster, so probably 20 years minimumaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>98649467>What's the last /awg/ you played?I played some Warzone 2nd edition last Thursday, Imperial vs. Mishima in a 3 point take and hold mission in a destitute corner of Neo-Detroit on Luna. We were fighting for gentrification rights. I'll post a few pictures from the game!
>>98651016We had three objectives, the eatery that these Imperial Regulars are securing here on the Imperial left flank, a CPU factory in the centre, and a chemical plant on the Imperial right flank.
>>98651025Game started pretty even, with my Imperials taking the lead for the first turn and half of turn 2. Things started going against me as the Mishimen started closing with my lines, lost control of the eatery on my left first, the regulars got picked apart by the ashigaru and the ronin pressing up the street and across the plaza. The fight dragged out in the middle and right flank, but it was a death by 1,000 cuts. By end of turn 4 I was left with just a highlander(the white SF guy), a badly damaged hurricane, and 4 regulars in one of the ruined apartment buildings on my right flank.Fun game, sadly never get to play it as often as I'd like. Both armies are mine, and I'm slowly chipping away at them, hopefully they'll both be finished next time I put them down on the battlefield.
>>98651085Highlanders and hurricane pushing up to secure the CPU factory, taking advantage of the cover of the factory and the cratered ruin of a tenement building.
>>98651094Blowing up the remaining Meka battlesuit with concentrated HMG fire from the Hurricane!
>>98649841Hordes of Thing, fantasy mass battle system, played using 2mm minis to really get that feel of massed formations of troops. Just look at those pike bases, each one is 160 men. Also, the steam tanks are cute
>>98651112Last combat of the game, sole surviving Hatamoto vs. sole surviving Highlander. And the last photo to post.Did a hang out and paint session with my friend and regular opponent today rather than play a game, painted some more of my warzone figures, Imperials are ready for basing and unit markings, hopefully Mishima will follow.
>>98651121Thanks for posting battle reports to debunk malicious claims that no-one in /awg/ actually plays games.Scale comparison of the upcoming fireforge camel Kickstarter.
>>98651016is Warzone different from Mantic Firefigfht
I still say that War of the Worlds game should've used HG Wells' Little Wars rules as a base.
>>98651016>>98651025>>98651085>>98651094>>98651112>>98651121Absolute kinographics
>>98652038Markedly so, find the rules here and give them a read, they're nice and concise: https://www.mutantpedia.com/eng/Warzone.html
>>98650279This shit is so fucking rad>rush apc full of dudes to cover that crossing on the river>werewolf infantry rushes across under cover of smoke>wolf shoulder-fired mortar sinks a frag round into my building from across the map>the wolf infantry storms the building and massacres my troops with machetes and teeth before I put them down with AGLs>blind fire what I think is the enemy commander>max out his suppression and force him to roll to see if his wolfmen go berserk>fails the roll, they charge out of cover to devour the corpses of their friends>AGL the commander to death, instant victory
>>98652619>HeroclixPass.
>>98652703just because it looks like toys and the business model?
>>98653056Just not a fan of heroclix
>>98653176understandable, I have to wonder, what makes the gameplay of a game "fun", what ties people to it.
>>98653234doing things, people like to do things, with the caveat that those things need to have meaningful impact.
>>98650982>Xenos RampantWhat has caused Xenos Rampant to have a bit of a rise in popularity these days?
>>98653664I think I just post about playing it here with my son and answer people's questions about it.
>Xenos RamapntI just had the rulebook arrive today. Gonna start reading it tomorrow
>>98653713Pics of the rulebook? Anything in there to indicate it is a newer edition or does Osprey just release books with rules and stats and never update it after release? Please tell us how the rules are when you finish reading and if you think XR will be fun.
>>9865366411th 40k dropped recently and many are looking for any sort of alternative. Its not the best, not the worst, very easy to use, from a decently sized publisher with a long track record and 3 other previous iterations of Rampants 2 of which also go 2nd editions with nice production values.
>>98653907>Pics of the rulebookLet me know what you want to see and I'll grab pics tomorrow
>>98653907>does Osprey just release books with rules and stats and never update it after release?To the best of my knowledge that's exactly how it works. I think its up to the author to do FAQ and Errata. I mean, one of my favorites is Broken Legions, all supplementary material, FAQ, Errata and expansions came from the authors personal blog.
>>98653907>>98654146That's exactly as it should be, if a company decides to release a FAQ errata because the book has errors.. then they owe it to me to reprint the book in corrected form and give it to me in exchange for the incorrect document.
>>98652619hmmmm, a sentai skirmish game..
>>98654320There should be a mechanic that requires them to start out in civilian form and beat up on goons until they get a chance to henshin.
>>98650810His schizo wife has done a number on him and indirectly the miniatures industry lol
>>98653664Lack of awareness of Alien Squad Leader.
>>98654374maybe. but at least their trait mechanic have them as power rangers, and if one of them would be KO, instead all of them get inside their zords and that is represented by their click 9.getting giant traits and other powers
>>98654320what system would fit that?
>>98649829Who's the maker? Irregular or something?
>>98650982>>98653664>>98653664What's the activation mechanic? That's what killed Dragon Rampant for me
DAMN what game could I use this in?
>>98655411Pretty much any modern skirmish game. Get some cargo containers and recreate the opening of COD4
>>98650810Got a big order from him, but sad to hear. I really liked his robots and waspquitos. Hopefully things work out OK with his schizo wife
>>98655411As anon said, any modern or near future game. You could also plop it down on a desert base and use it as the centerpiece terrain for a post-apocalyptic game.
>>98655411I intend to someday make a pirate ship with a similar design and scale so that I can put a Street Bowl (Blood Bowl variant) pitch on the long empty middle deck as part of a whole summer vacation themed mini-league thing with an accompanying mesoamerican pyramid dungeon bowl pitch and a standard beach volleyball beach ball pitch.Got 3d print files for beach party themed orcs, bikini amazons, shark pirate chaos pirates, mesoamerican tomb king mummies/skeletons and conquistador humans.I know, it's GW and not AWG but maybe that can be inspiration.
>>98655479Blood Bowl and Mordheim are effectively awg despite being made by GW
>>98655236The same, but most units have one free activation, you get bonuses to the roll based on commander proximity.
>>98655411that is cool as hell, if you had 2 or 3 you could do a huge boat-to-boat game even with larger numbers of units
>>98651522What the fuck, these look amazing.
>>986559063d printed prototypes. I reckon the plastic models will have chunkier reins and weapons. Seems like WGA pushed the rest of the warring states ahead of the gladiators in the release schedule. A minor inconvenience for me, but there is always a different modeling project.
>>98655921Good to see WGA is returning to the eisenkern range eventually, I hope they'll release the shadokesh before 2028.
>>98655921>>98655924Wow... Literally nothing interesting
>>98656104The sturmtruppen might be cool if they have that wwi body armour. Great conversion fodder.
So I was tired of seeing all my epic/legion imperialis and other 10mm models just standing there not being used.So I have been spending some months now writing a game where I can use whatever 10mm models I have.You can take a look at the first beta release here:https://null-protocol-nine.vercel.app/Null-Protocol-Rulebook.pdf
>Luv the Concept of Gods and Mortals (God/Powerful character, minor ones, units).>'ate its too simplistic for more than a few games.I like more granularity dangit. Not sure if there is a game like that a bit more expanded or what. Frostgrave is too random to me, and inbetween skirmish game is what I look.
>>98655236Imagine being filtered by the most homebrewable thing in the world. So easy to tweak that the rulebook itself tells you how to in the optional rules chapter.
>>98656104>plastic winged hussars>not interesting Granted I'm more into the gladiators and warring states.
>>98656115Can't believe you get that Nvidia sponsorship.
>>98651522>>98652076Thanks, fellas.
>>98650810jesus I've just read through his Bluesky, that's tough man
>>98651522Potential parts for the camelry and Berber cavalry. Seems like the Berber cavalry will use the Byzantine horse sprue.
>>98649467>TQMechaStellar a tabletop SRW game
https://www.grippingbeast.co.uk/An_Important_Announcement.htmlGripping Beast are retiring, at an indeterminate near future date.Which I suppose explains why the Colin Patton Ragnarok range is spinning off into it's own company.
>>98657153Oh no, I love they fantasy stuff, more like tolkien than other miniature ranges.
>>98657153Sad news, their late Roman/parthian cataphracts were pretty good kits.
>>98651522>>98656627>minimal tier is 4 boxesAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI dont need so many camels.There is no scenario where I will ever need so many camels.My army is nearly done I just need some genies and camels not 4 fucking boxes of camels.
>>98657326The first thing I tought when I did see you army.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ILqbD6XXkA
>>98657326It says "or any other Fireforge kit".I thought of 3 boxes of camels, would make 12 for conversions, 12 as-is. The remaining 3 boxes I could use to get the samurai kits.
>>98655140Aye, they are Irregular 2mm minis. The pike formations are 3 40 man pike blocks with milliput used to fill the gaps and the outer blocks flags cut off
>>98657512Now that I think about it, I could get >1 cameliers>1 merchants (use bits left out to go for 10-12 combat camels and commanders)>1 box of berbers>1 box of dwarvesBut dwarves are lower price than the camels will probably be. Will they balance out the costs ? Or is it better to just order all camels, sell half, then buy dwarves and berbers with a post kickstarter discount ?
Guys I think I'm retarded.Can someone explain, preferably with examples, how damage resolution is resolved in Xenos Rampant? I'm looking at the book, and I just don't get it.pls help I'm super heavily medicated and this isn't going how I thought it would.
>>98658052If you're shooting at a unit with an armour value of 3, you need to score at least three hits to kill one model. Six to kill two and so on. Then you apply modifiers like long distance and cover if needed. Typically you chip away squads over multiple turns. It's quite rare to kill more than one model in a shoot activation if the target is either heavy or elite infantry.
>>98658146Thank you anon, that makes a lot more sense. I appreciate it.
>>98657153Is he at least selling the moulds to someone else?
>>98658259>We would very much like to see the business continue under new ownership. There is a huge amount of history here, a substantial established collection of ranges and a loyal customer base around the world, so we would be delighted if someone came along and decided that they fancied taking on the rather enormous pile of miniatures we've spent decades creating and looking after.>Whether that happens or not, we simply don't know yet, as this is just our initial announcement and we will provide further updates along the way as we have them.They're gonna try to find someone to keep the ranges in circulation, but they haven't found anyone yet and there are definately factors working against it, like Tin Inflation, competition from 3D printing and an aging target demo.
i used to play warmahordes back in the 00s, still have my collection. the game is undergoing a bit of a revival since the new management took over, so i popped down to the local game night.......are we for real? are people really doing this shit everywhere? chess clocks as a loss con? jesus fucking turbo cancer christ. if this is the expectation in warmachine nowadays i might just check right back out for another 20 years. fuck this
>>98659148Every time someone mentions Warmachine I grow more and more glad that I've never touched it.
>>98659148The group I used to play with did it back in 00s, mandatory for tourneys, recommended for casual. I used to play chess, so I didn't think it's weird.
>>98659148Our group is turbo casual and doesn't, but tournament types play with clocks just as they did back in the day. Can always check if anyone's willing to play more casual, or even see about starting an alternative group.
>>98659148Tbh chess clocks definitely help slow players a lot. I don't think they sold be a win/lose con but they are definitely a good tool and a good reminder to be considerate of your opponent's time.
Anons, I need a bit of help.Does anyone know which Lord of the Rings Strategy Battle Game sourcebook contains the rules for Faramir's Rangers / Rangers of Ithilien?Specifically, from the old game, before the MESBG rebrand.Many thanks, and goodnight.
>>98659485Rangers of Gondor, Two Towers p80 or Return of the King p76.
>>98659148They are a necessary evil in tournament play so that one player does not monopolize the 2 hour round. Tournament play is cringe anyway.They should never be used for casual play.
>>98659148It's just so you don't spend 4 literal actual hours on a game.
i didnt think i'd see so many people coming to the defense of a time limit in wargames. wargaming is in a really sad state if thats the future. its a fucking game, it shouldnt feel like you're under a performance evaluation test just to throw some spells and brawl with monsters. god damn. wargaming culture really has become gross esports shit
>>98659795How do you take "It's a helpful reminder to not take too long and make the other guy wait too much" to mean e-sports you submental degenerate.
I recently picked up some STLs for tunnel and dungeon terrain and I want to come up with a set of rules for running it in Frostgrave as an "underneath map" that we can dart into to bypass obstacles and such. What I'm not sure about is how to keep it from just making camping the exits the best move. I'm contemplating making it so that the tunnel exits can be anywhere in a building, on the logic that it connected to that building's basement. Makes it so that you can't just stand in front of the manhole cover and stab anyone who opens it.Any thoughts? I know there's a supplement with dungeon rules but I gather it's more focused on turning Frostgrave into a solo wargame than on mixing maps like this.
>>98659834Just have multiple exits. Typically when a terrain piece has entrances and exits, they either put one in every corner or along every wall. Also spells, Crumble should be able to make new exits anywhere along the tunnel. And some areas could be swiss cheesed so you can shoot and cast spells across the line without actually coming out.
>>98659834>I know there's a supplement with dungeon rules but I gather it's more focused on turning Frostgrave into a solo wargame than on mixing maps like this.You're conflating two different books. Into The Breeding Pits is the one with the underground dungeon rules. It is actually designed around the exact scenario you're suggesting. It also has extra spells to turn wizards into animal hybrids and such.The solo play one was Perilous Dark, and was mostly about building your own solo scenarios and was essentially insight into how McCollough builds the back end of Rangers of Shadow Deep.
>>98659968Oh, cool. I'll probably grab Breeding Pits then, thanks.
>started painting the major characters for my upcoming narrative solo campaign. Feels good. It's gonna be fun.
>>98659825This. There's nothing hyper competitive about not being a jerk.
>>98649467TQ: Carnevale, got my ass beat. Can't wait to not be sick, so I can go out and play malifaux and infinity again.
>>98660389Noice, oathmark?
>>98659795There's always a time limit because you have to go and do something else eventually. In a tournament you need to finish so everyone can play the next round, and the whole thing has to finish before the venue kicks everyone out.Making the time limit explicit means you can neither sandbag to your advantage nor get blindsided by it being tighter than you thought. Whether or not that warrants a chess clock is another matter, but for a competitive tournament game where time is tight it's hardly outlandish.
>>98660825>>98659795Anon has it here buddy, you have to respect your opponents time, I've had a couple instances in the last 20ish years where I was playing a random at an LGS and they were busy on their phone or chatting with someone else nearby instead of focusing on our game, and after waiting for them to play their turn for too long I just said fuck it and picked up my minis from the table and moved on to have a game with someone else, both times the guys in question eventually went tot ake their turn and then came looking for me to be all "dude, wtf? we had a game going!"
>>98660754Yeah.
>>98650810He's a dumboNapoleon III was pretty fucking popular pre 1871
If someone should up to BOYL with a chess clock they would be beaten with hammers.
>>98659968Into The Breeding Pits has to be the most unintentionally(?) hentai-ish name for a non-H product I've ever seen.
>>98661600It has a scenario titled "Mating Season"
>>98661600Wizards have no sense of right or wrong. And especially no sense of what makes a good pet.
>>98661600>The cover is even gnolls.Dang.
>>98661880Gnolls in Frostgrave are a magically force bred hybrid species of whatever wizards wanted to add to the soup, left to go feral for the 1000+ years the city was encased in ice.
>>98649829sweet. I still need to finish my napoleonic 2mm. What rules you using?
>>98661965Oh, I Like that, I do somethign similar for my setting, breeding in actual magical beings I call nymphs, used be the equivalent of fae lords to make different strains of minor fey, beastman included.
>>98660825as someone who absolutely hates e-sport style tourneys, man some of these modern players are fucking retarded. Sorry for talking about 40kplayed a start of 11th, 1000pt games. Supposed to be 3 games in the day, 2 hours each game. at 2 hours 80% of players were still on turn 2. these people wont even read the rules have the time before showing up. Respecting your opponents time is big, i'd never ask for a clock. but there has to be a balance between chess clock and faffing about. I do see this as a problem with pick up games only, when im with my friends fucking around the frozen city i dont care.
>>98661435When you say hammer you mean 40k 2nd edition Carnifex in a sock?
I kind of like the clocks, too many retards than don't read the rules, tip toe about what to do etcIt makes playing games with randoms posible.
Are there any other good games where I can use my titanicus minis ? ..or just some other games where I can use my legions imperialis models?
>>98660838Man that done infuriating. I've been pretty lucky with my FLGS.The only time I've used a chess clock it was when I was playing Malifaux at a friend's house. It was his idea, because he got bad decision paralysis and our games were taking like 6 hours on have we were calling on turn three or four. We only used it like twice but it definitely helped him be aware of time and shaved like two hours off our games.
>>98662281There's a decent amount of combined arms 'epic' scale games, some of them have a bit more specific design for mechs but you could sub in warhammer style fairly easily in most of them. Some are very light and abstracted like Laserstorm or the Company/Battalion Commander with the In Space add on. Some are more specific like Hardwar, Tomorrow's War is for generics. There's been a bunch of mech games recently, they seem more mecha focused but haven't made time to dig into them. Flames of Orion, Steel Rift, Gamma Wolves. If you want to retain a lot of the warhammer feel Epic Armageddon is quite good as well.
>>98662457Are any of them on the lower model count scale? .. So not epic/legions amount of models ?
>>98662281Full Spectrum Dominance
>>98663086looks cool, will have toi take a deeper look at it. How Customizable is it ?
>>98663152units have fixed unit cards with stats and what they can do I thinkdepending on the faction you can get relatively low model countabout scaling and models:https://fsd-wargame.com/about-basing/
>>98661976For mow I'm using Hordes of the Things, it's a fantasy DBA system, but in time I'm hoping to work on something more granular.For 2mm Napoleonics I use Valour and Fortitude with all measurements in cm
>>98655411Pretty sure this has a mission/example table like this in the book irrc.But yeah, if the boat is big enough it's just the table.
>>98655411https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQr_-BdIISU
>Xenos RampantWhy is it so fucking hard to kill things. I'm looking for a power fantasy experience, sure, but a 10 man squad needing to roll 10 successes on 10D6 to put a measly 2 wounds on a unit is insane. The rules are clever, I like them, but everything is WAY to survivable.
Soooo is ASOIAF officially dead yet, or is it still clinging to life?
>>98663014>Laserstorm or the Company/Battalion Commander with the In Space add onare low model count, can do with a dozen and a bit per side, but a lot of that depends on how alright with abstraction you want to get and aesthetics. I don't mind grouping 2-3 tanks together and saying its a company but I started with hex & chit. Tomorrow's War didn't seem like it needed many models either.
>>98663357I think it's in its death throes
>>98663298Akcshually artillery is the biggest killer in warfare so it tracks that small arms fire just chips away at the enemy. Jokes aside, it's not exactly true in my experience. It's pretty easy to wipe out a squad of light or heavy infantry if you charge them with a melee unit like greater xenomorphs or expanded units of berserk infantry or lesser xenomorphs. The heavy negative modifiers to courage tests often wipes out the entire unit. It can also happen if you catch them in the open and within effective range. Personally I like how tough units are compared to OPR. But it is a matter of taste.
>>98663357>dead yet>CMON gamealways has been (unfortunately). CMON moves from project to project and IP to IP like locusts. Extracting maximum resources from the playerbase and then dumping the whole thing altogether has been their MO for the last 20ish years.
>>98663357They came from the dead to randomly update the app the the latest season after firing like half the team, including one of their lead designers, so who fucking knows. I hope not, but stuff not being reprinted right now and some models are high in demand and damn it better not die.
>>98651119>Hordes of the Things I truly tried to play it, but the rulebook is spelled in an imposible way for an ESL such as myself. I'm now using Warband from Pendraken for playing with my smaller soldiers. Simple, scale agnostic and elegant.Beautiful pic, though.
>>98663407>But it is a matter of taste.Definitely seems to be the case, I'm enjoying everything in XR except for the chip damage.
>>98663449Kek. It's not an ESL problem. They call it Barkerese for a reason. It's a known problem.
>>98663459I've tried some house rules, like an upgrade that improves the shoot value of a unit by +1 (my son really likes my 3d printed myrmidons, and I've used it also for thallax cohorts to differentiate their shooting from grunts). Earlier I tried using the lion/dragon rampant split of 12/6 dice, but I felt like it makes the game too deadly. Next house rule I'll try is chit activation. Maybe I'll also test an upgrade that allows the re-rolling of all misses. In general I prefer modifiers to dice rolls over re-rolls, as I feel like it makes the game flow faster.
>>98663477I too prefer modifiers over re-rolls, but I just don't think Xenos Rampant is the game for me. I will learn from it for my own games development cycle, and I appreciate that its community is, pardon the pun, rampant, but it's just not for me.
>>98663503Have you tried OPR?
A Kings of War enthusiast has joined our local group and is suggesting it as an alternative to Oathmark. What's the lowdown on the game? He's not exactly reliable when he's talking it up. No worries about the models, we have generic fantasy armies we'd be using.
>>98664842Kings of War is a tourneyfag whistle so make sure that's not what's appealing to him. Over than that no kingdom building obviously, D6 based so less swingy, more depth but more rules, multi-based but you can make a diorama to save on minis or gain in style, 20mm square but Oathmark is 25mm ones so not as compatible as you first thought.
>>98663469>the game of moving in base widths and 1d6 opposed rolls continues to fucking BAFFLE the skirmish crowdLong may it be so>>98665032Difference in frontage doesn't matter in KOW because measurement is from the unit's centre. >>98663503Xenos probably needs modding from the perspective of it trying to be very broad and so power scaling is not very exciting, units just kind of whittle away at one another. Being written for one or two vehicles max also makes it a little bland. I like Lion and Dragon tho.Someone else mentioned Alien Squad Leader. Very comprehensive game. I'd also volunteer Strike Legion.
Ragrot fungus breath is coming out pretty good.
>>98665257Heres his back.
Heres the goblin king Vorgut the knuckles taker.
What seems better, full spectrum dominance or Horizon Wars? ..Seems kinda similar ?
>>98665267Here's his back.
>>98664842ITs a good game, at least the second edition wich is hte one I'm most familiar with. Generic but not as much as oathmark, if you know hte rules not so slow as other games and not as unbalanced either, its a solid game. But if you play oathmark, is for hte kingdom building shenaningans anyway.
>>98665257ORcs/goblisn and fungy are made for each other. Nice.
>>98659148I used to be this guy, until I met >>98659778 >>98662381 >>98659555 these guys and holy shit you simply cannot play a game after work on a weeknight with some people.A four hour game would reach the 75% mark and we'd talk it through as we packed up and I'd go home unsure if I even enjoyed my hobby or if it was just a habit.
>>98663449Thanks man. And yeah, the prose is somewhat archaic in nature, I had to read over it a couple of times to make sure I had things right.>>98665053>>the game of moving in base widths and 1d6 opposed rolls continues to fucking BAFFLE the skirmish crowdTbf HOTT uses 100 paces as a measurement and is written in a somewhat archaic manner, though once past that it plays fast. It could use more granularity imo.
Any good 10mm alien/tyranid like miniature ranges? .. Think instead of giant mechs and robots, its giant monsters and stuff?
>>98665737De Bellis Fantasiae is the current WRG version and uses basewidths and is definitely more granular. It's even written by Americans so exchanges "archaic" phrasing with spelling mistakes.
Anybody here who can say anything about This is not a test?Seems interesting to me, but the rules aren't exactly on the cheap site, so i'd be interested in some opinions before getting the book.
>>98665811yes, there is a resident anon who loves ityou could search the archive if they don't show up, his posts about it are rather easy to find
>>98665755You mean big monsters, small scale? Not many of this stuff. Best way is to use 28mm monsters.
>>98665842yea big small monsters, it's always mech, tanks, walkers, human like infantry and stuff fighting, never any big nasty monsters
>>98665811played it a long time ago, around when it was first released, remember liking it quite a lot. Can't remember why we stopped playing it
>>98665502As cool as the kingdom building is, if I really want to I can convert that to another game. So I'll probably give KoW a try. >>98665032The bit about multi-basing but 20mm bases confuses me. Why does that matter if my minis are all sharing one base anyway? This guy doesn't seem sweaty from first online interaction, so I'm not worried about tournament nonsense yet.
>>98665784Tempting but then I have to read Americanese as opposed to simple mildly archaic English wargame speak.
>>98665755Pendraken has some off-brand Aliens.Mantic's Epic Warpath has Nameless which are alien aliens rather than just orcs and shit.
>>98666729The nameless looked okay, until I saw all the normal guns, and big beasts with simple guns strapped to them.Why are there no proper kaiju vs giant mech factions games out there
>>98665811>but the rules aren't exactly on the cheap siteCheaper than in the OP?
>>98665811I can say that it's a lot of fun. It's got Fallout vibes without actually being a Fallout game. The 2nd edition is mostly just a refinement so snagging 1st edition stuff to read or try will still give you a good idea of how 2nd works.
>>98667152Also 1st edition just has a lot more content for now. It's not 100% compatible with 2nd, but it's also not hard to do a little bit of converting, especially for scenarios.
>>98664155In the past, yeah, but I don't know how well it works at smaller scale games.
>>98665755>>98666923>Why are there no proper kaiju vs giant mech factions games out thereBot War. Lots of transformer style mecha and 80s toy cartoon inspired factions.
>>98667604none of those are kaiju or mecha
Using AI to edit a skybox into scenic photographs from games;Pretty dope actually.
>>98667672Original featuring my wardrobe.I saw some guy in a 40k thread was using ai to touch up his battle scenes and I was like "I can do this"It's a nice presentational flourish, if not overdone.
>>98667662¯\_ (ツ)_/¯Monsterpocalypse too. You're going to have to get over whatever picky bullshit you're stuck on and learn how to find close enough or make your own.
>>98667733I'm not the anon you were talking to, I just wanted to point out the stupidity of your first image and the claim that that game is what anon wanted.This image is right, learn the difference.
>>98667754Go fight with /m/ about what a mecha is.
>>98667803>lizardman carrying an axe>mechaI don't think even the most retarded lancer fag would be on your side, fuckstick.
>>98667811Its a kaiju. Its absolutly something you would see as a monster of the week in Super Sentai.
>>98667811Nah. Learn how to read a whole sentence retard.
>>98667811>>98667822I just wanted a game kinda like full spectrum dominance or similar, but with the option for like kaiju or alien monsters and stuff instead of just normal human like robots
>>98666923Double check first but I think Project Artemis is 10mm?https://ttcombat.com/collections/dropzone-commander/products/dropzone-commander-operation-artemis
>>98667838Then you are shit out of luck and the closest thing is Monsterpocalypse.Kaiju vs. mecha game is /awg/ holy grail just like mini agnostic warmahordes.
>>98667733I hope you dont mean Monsterpocalypse isnt Kaiju. Because thats is 100% Kaiju and Mechs.It just added more thatn Kaiju.
>>98667851fuck
>>98667851ITs not fair, how comes one of the coolest stuff ever (Giant Monsters vs Giant robots/mechs) doesn't have any good stuff, and hte few one it has, is mis managed as hell.
>>98665885Dropzone Commander put out that one set with megafauna.
>>98667884Everyone's on opposite day pills huh. Not really sure how you'd get the example I posted as another mecha vs kaiju game wasn't an example of another mecha vs kaiju game. >>98667922Grouchy anon's full of shit. Check out Bot War. Monsterpocalypse is oop but you can still get miniatures and stats. https://gameknave.com/monpoc/Monster Island is an older game, its alright. Using whatever big monster and mech toys you have to play with is what its for.
>>98649467>OP picWasn't there a War of the Worlds game, or at least minis?
>>98667955guess making giant monsters, and all the other units needed for it is harder than making a bunch of robot
>>98667980All Quiet on the Martian Front. iirc it got a 2nd edition. Wings of Glory/War got a Tripods and Triplanes expansion but I don't think you can get it anymore. I've seen it at conventions.
>>98667672I did the same with my terrain setup and everyone just made fun of my
>>98668015Its the angle.>>98667691No offense but better quality photos and composition would give your dudes more than ai background.
>>98668029this
>>98667829You first anona specifically complained about "monsters with guns strapped on"He wants big beefy purely biological animal intellect monsters vs purely mechanical robots, no cyborgs, no "just pretend this GW lizardman is 100 feet tall and mechanical"
>>98668190So they're mecha and kaiju right?
>>98665822>>98665889>>98667152Thx, i might give it a try.
>>98667978I'd say these are more tokusatsu than kaiju.
>>98668015Living on the edge.
>>98668713Monsters in rubber suits of varying size are specifically part of tokusatsu, not sure what you're trying to say.
>>98668771WTF.... That wargaming table has an EDGE??!
>>98668325No.
>>98668916IF I TOUCH IT, I AM DESTROYED AND THE ENEMY GAINS MY VALUE IN VICTORY POINTS?!
Xenos Rampant isn't the game for me, but how is Dragon Rampant? That looks fun aesthetically, but I don't know anything about the rules. If anyone can give me a rundown, I would appreciate it.
>>98669039I haven't read Xenos Rampant but I read through Dragon. It does a decent job of being a fairly rules lite wargame. The best feature is creating units by stacking special rules on basic profiles, like making pegasus knights by giving heavy cavalry the Flight rule. The worst is the activation mechanic, which really needs replacing with something better.
>>98669039Literally the exact same game with different unit sheets
>>98663469Good to know. An extremely complicated way of writting simple rules. Not sure if deliberated, ha.
>>98668029That would take effort and/or expense not proportional to my investment or interest, or the relative quality of the result, really.>Buy a new cameraphonevs>Use the one I already have for freeI mean, if you want me to invest money into bumping the thread you should at least offer to pay me.>Hire some furry enabler to hand-draw me a skyboxvs>Have Gemini shit one out in about 30 secondsTime, and once again, expense.Versus convenient and free.>>98668015Detractors are always loud.I saw that, and I thought it was neat enough to copy.It gives me more impetus to build a desert setup for my Quar.This was the broad shot for that battlefield.It was a game from a few days ago I refereed between my two friends.approx 200 pots each, one side was mostly Toulmorese Pathfinders, with a sniper and a dog, plus that wasp-wrangler specialist, and the other was a slightly understrength Crusader Patrol, with it's mown designated marksman.The latter won due to numbers and massed fire despite the former having a diddy 2 pt runover.The house on the hill was a 3rd party 3d print based on the starter set card house.
>>98669527Housies
>>98665811it's on pdfcoffee if you want to see it first. 172 pagespdfcoffee.com/this-is-not-a-test-pdf-pdf-free.html
>>98669538Cute.
>>98668916>>98668992>commander I can't remember the faces of my wife and children or their names>it feels as if my entire life has been lived on this battlefield>it feels like life is all a game and I am just a plaything on some sick gods table!
>>98668916>>98670064Always knew, never cared. In this town we're edgey as fuck.*tip AI enhanced fedora*
>>98669527Are you autistic? No one gives a fuck about your life story and why you don't have a better camera or wants you to bump the thread on purpose.
>>98669527>I need AI because I CANNOT wipe my cameras lens
Seems like I will have to proxy big monster kaiju stuff in games instead of finding a game that uses it ..What is better full spectrum dominance or horizon wars? And what is the best ~10mm fantasy skirmish game
Does anybody make 28mm models of some of the weird interwar half tracks? Need a cool vehicle for some adventurers in the back of beyond.
>>98670750Maybe even something as wacky as this Lego Adventurers car.
>>98670750>>98670755Have you tried searching for 1/48 and 1/56 scale models?
>>98670615Dropzone Commander: Project Artemis has been recomended to you twice already. Give it a look.
>>98670783I have, and the models look fine, but not that interested in the game itself
>>98670615HoTT is mini agnostic, you can proxy anything as units including dinosaurs.
What are you alls thoughts on rattle and rend? .. Have seen it pop up in a few places now, and a friend what do give it a try
>>98669198Well, shit.
>>98671257Never heard about it, what kind of game is it?
>>98669646Thanks, my fren printed it fer me.>>98670535Lmao.>Why are you posting on a forum bro?>Nobody cares what you have to say bro>He posted, on the forum>>98670549It's more that the zoom is just busted, and it won't stop micro-fluctuating in and out, and refuses to focus properly especially when still.It is what it is nigger.
>>98671462It describes itself as something like:A 10mm fantasy skirmish game, using 4-8 bases and a small table. think it is 16 inches or something like that
>>98671476Oh, that sound actually cool. I'm searching for something like that (or warmachine generic) for Dominions6/Conquest of elysium games, so that's my jam.
>>98671469Yeah, ok, you are autistic. Got it.
>>98671497Where do you think you are?
>>98671476looks interesting, the small scale and short board could be fun. Absolutely not a fan of having to use Facebook to access the rules, however.
>>98671786yea there are a lot that uses facebook to create a "space" for their wargames.But you don't need facebook to get the rules, it just contains the links to his page'¨https://tabletop.willphillips.org/rattle-and-rend-downloads/
Are there any presupported 10mm fantasy ranges out there?
>>98671954>find presupported 28mm range>scale to 35%
>>98671497>Oh Em Gee, you LOSER>Why would you post about having "FUN" with your "FRIENDS">Why do you even bother?>Don't you know you have to have over nine thousand reddit gold and a professional editorial to post shit on the internet!?>YOU ARE AUTISTICLmao.Lmfao.
>>98671994That sounds like something that will really mess with the supports
>>98671994sculpting at different scales isn't that simple anon, you might as well snap those 28mm to 10mm prints the second they're cured yourself
This will be a good addition to the bits box, but there's a noticeable lack of heads here.
>>98672027For me it's a bit safe and wow those are some fiddly little bits
>>98671702True.>>98671995See, you don't even understand why you are being ridiculed. It's great that you have fun with your friend and share it. We are in /awg/, right? A thread about games, on a board about games.But you don't have to write a 9 lines long cringe section about why you don't bother with better pictures. Just say it's what you have and don't care to improve as it's not worth it to you. Done, one sentence.
>>98670750Got one of these funny little fellows from etsy. They've got a few of the oddball vees.
>>98667672>>98668029The graininess and colour filter work well for ww1 ye olde mud war with goofy anteaters. >>98672089Similarly you don't have to write however many replies you have and will about your feelings and how much you don't care. You do care, just the opposite way, you're trying to streamline police the general about a wide variety of wargames into being just things you specifically find pleasing and also do some weird shit about needing anons to improve themselves for you? I don't know man. While it may seem initially like a desirable idea it actually kills off the inclusion of unexpected and interesting things that is one of the strong suits of /awg/.
>>98670750>tracked dur Same guy, this thing.
>>98672089Am I obligated to hold your "ridicule" in any regard at all?You probably laugh at your own farts.
>>98672145There's no room in it for an engine, given the position of the drivers seats.
>>98671836It's a cool find, thank you anon. Mind sharing how you found it? I'm a bit out of touch to be honest.
Do you guys use music while wargaming? Because I love to blast Blind guardian and Rhapsody of fire while solo but with people isn't something I ever did.
>>98672320No, I think it would be distracting.
>>98672320Nah.Dungeon or wilderness ambience is far better.It's less distracting, and seldom peaks to drown out conversation around the table.We tend to smoke weed and headbang before/after.
>>98672178>and how much you don't care.I never did say I don't care about his post. I don't care about that specific thing in it, the whatever cope drivel he wrote about camera and posting when another anon just gave an advice how he could make things better instead of effortless AI slop. Yet it's eating up like a quarter of my screen, it's idiocy glaring at me, annoying me.I'm not trying to streamline police the general, I am telling the guy I think he is a doof. I know it's likely not going to change anything as he has repeatedly demonstrated his stubborness (easy to spot when he is close-to avatarfagging with Quar and has a distinctive writing style), but if he is allowed to be human and stupid then so I am.I also usually ignore his posts, I just sometimes have weak moments>>98672226>Am I obligated to hold your "ridicule" in any regard at all?No, but I guess you do since you keep replying.
>>98672269You'll have to take up your engineering concerns with these guys. https://tank-afv.com/ww2/czech/Skoda_PA-II_Zelva.php
>>98672351This is some funny shit to read if you're going to accuse people of having autism. >its eating up a quarter of my screen Death to all phoneposters.
>>98672275A friend pointed it out to me, think they found it on facebook or reddit
>>98672466Never said I am not autistic.>phonepostersI am not. I don't know what monitor you are on, but on my 1080p that is how it is.
>>98672579The tumbnail doesn't get big unless you click on it dumbdumb. >click thing, don't like big, click again for thing not big, less nono photons in your photon receptors Not complicated. Get better at being autistic, ignoring inputs is a feature not a bug.
>>98671954Warmaster and Warmaster .stl'sArgatoria Penndraken, Old Glory and Irregular Miniatures for historicals
is Starcraft on-topic here?
>>98672655What are some names for the .stls?Found foresrt dragon, but dunno where to buy their stuff
>>98672637I'm going to stop this off-topic nonsense at this point, but to clarify: I don't know what thumbnail you are talking about, I was talking about this huge ass post >>98669527 with twice the size it needed to be because of neurotic coping about camera and laziness.
>>98671954Cromarty Forge is good
>>98662381>>98665680I am going to second this. I like AA games, but fuck me sometimes a regular opponent of mine is so fucking slow. Like three hours to get through a turn and a half. We can't complete a game.Maybe I need to start bringing one
>>98672686gumroad, but it's easy to find on the gram app
>>98672817gumroad only have the large bundles. And dunno what gram is
>>98672826telegrambut you could also check minirat on gumroad
>>98672664There's a starcraft thread.
>>98672840Trying out green skin miniatures and their kislev
>>98670750https://www.empressminiatures.com/interwar-vehicles-15-c.aspEmpress had some. Though none like your silly ski car.
>>98672784>You're AUTISTIC>You're NEUROTICYou got any more buzzwords to shit out chief?You'd think I fucked your mother and didn't call back.
>>98673217Triggered.
I've come to the conclusion that anons must just sit here all day waiting for someone to start an argument with. I don't know about you anons but I've got actual games to play, or discuss and minatures to paint.
>>98673388>sit here all dayThere's this really cool thing called a "smart phone" that allows you to have the internet in your hand everywhere you go and checking on 20+ 4chan threads takes a couple minutes.It literally takes more effort to tie my boots than it does to pop in and tell a fucking moron that they're a fucking moron.
>>98673426Imagine going outside. Wouldn't be me.
>>98673438tonight and/or tomorrow morning I will be sitting silently in the dark of my garden with my bow doing absolutely nothing until the deer who has been eating my corn shows up and I put an arrow in it's heart, I will then be gutting and skinning a deer in the middle of the night or the dawn's first light.
>>98673426>can't help but instantly reply to argueThank you for proving my point. Be sure to check your phone every 2-10 minutes so you can keep arguing with random people here.Im gonna go back yo painting now. Here's some progress on an elf king.
>>98673491>didn't even prime itGross anon.
>>98673494Its primed in black and dry brushed white.
>>98673538Nope, I can see the bare grey plastic on the face.
>>98673257Buzzword number three.I suspect you simply recognized my setup from a previous thread, wherein I called you a faggot/tranny/nigger/kike.Judging by your seething and grasping for meme-words, I must have been correct.
>>98673549that's a metal mini you retard
>>98673549Why would anon lie about it? How can you be so sure about it with that blurry photo?also >>98673582 lmao yeah
>>98673598>Why would anon lie about it?Because it's easier than doing it right when called out.
>>98673582>>98673598Ignore him. He's having a melty and trying to start an argument over something like I mentioned earlier. I think he thinks he will "win" if he drags me into a pointless argument.
>>98673696You've already lost because you didn't prime, you fucked the paintjob.Doesn't matter what anons think of that, your physical reality is that the paint will rub off.
>>98673716wasn't this tested by that serial killer looking dude? or was that about varnish/no-varnish?
This place fucking sucks.
>>98673751It's not even the place.It's the people in it.Well adjusted people who are pleasant to be around tend not to let collectible bits of plastic and card subsume their lives.Any open "Hobby space" automatically fills up with undesirables, unless they are filtered out.People with no social skills.People who are just there to start a fight because it's the closest thing to validation they can get.People who are frankly, developmentally delayed, and can't thrive in the real world, which is irreducibly complex, and so, they find their level in mastery of trivialities.
>>98673751>>98673791Then head over to reddit, you have an alternative.
>>98673751It's hard, I come here because I can lay out every neurotic thought about miniatures that I just wouldn't bother my IRL friends with as they're either GW types or whatever. So I do like that part of it, but I also can't lay out everything here because I immediately become identifiable.I mean Tanner posts here freely tbf and he's more famous than me.
>>98673880Why?I don't think either of us are gay marxist pedophiles.
>>98673936yet you're demanding a hugbox safe space.
>>98673970Literally nobody said that you fucking spastic.
>>98673919>Being scared of getting identified by /tg/Why?If it's somebody who doesn't like you, what's the worst could happen?They make passive aggressive comments?You're certainly not in any physical danger from this pack of retarded manchildren.
>see decal paper>use it >it sucks, the decals don't peel off well and bunch together and won't stick to stuff>read the instructions >I'm supposed to use a hobby sealant>wonder where the hell I'm gonna fina that>turns out I've had a can of the damn stuff the whole timeNow to wait for the thing to dry and then maybe, maybe the damn thing will work now.
>>98673976Yes you did, you just used 100 words instead of 4
I fucking love the warploque aestethics lads.
>>98673970>Hears "Well adjusted people who are pleasant to be around">Interprets this as "reddit"Obersturmführer, ich habe einen gefunden!
>>98674096If you despise unmoderated free for alls, dont go to the one fucking place that is an unmoderated free for all
>>98674093Mostly doesn't do it for me but the wyrm here is oddly appealing.
>>98674073Retard, last (you) enjoy screaming into the void.
>>98673791>People who are just there to start a fight because it's the closest thing to validation they can get.>>98673936>>98673976>>98674001>>98674096>>98674125You could have just left the confession at that point.
>>98674064That sucks. I always fuck decals up so I usually dont use them.
>>98674125Learn to moderate yourself, if you don't bite then there's no argument>No! You must be responsible for me because I have no self-control! I AM A CHILD ANON!
>>98674190>last reply! >does it againYou have no will, no conviction, you are a dog.
>>98649467>Little WarsWould you let someone fire a toy gun at your minis, knocking them over?
>>98674237If they were chunky ass lead-alloy minis with a quarter inch of extremely toxic but very resilient 18XX paint on them, sure.
>>98674121Those rust beast are cute,CUTE!
>>98674305>I don't think either of us are gay marxist pedophilesKek
>>98674315What?
>>98674436Figure it out pedo
>>98674456Oh, you're just insane. Thanks for explaining.
>>98674518i think anon means that only lgbtbbq's call things cute in this manner
I posted about doing Frostgrave dungeon stuff before. I'm gonna create modular dungeon rooms and hallways that I can slot into each other, then create rules for randomly generating one whenever you open a door. Each player will start in their own dungeon section and as we explore, the sections will eventually connect as parties encounter each other. And there'll be random encounters and treasure in the rooms. Basically I'm turning Frostgrave into even more of a classic dungeon crawl. Gonna take a lot of printing, but I have time to spend.
>>98675778>https://www.3dprintterrain.de/collections/dungeons/products/dungeon-for-epic-adventuresI'm considering doing something similar but using these ones. I'm considering reworking classic Warhammer quest or Advanced HeroQuest
Who have some good lizardmen like 10mm stl's ?
>>98674947BEen a thing here for forever, first time I see it called gay. Like Megumin is cute, CUTE!
>>98677186See? Pedo
>>98677564>>98677564>>98677564
>>98677186>Like Megumin is cute, CUTE!This is a Lalatina board.
>>98677585Aqua is the clear choice, darkness is a slut for anyone from goblins and demons to some random noble that demands she leave Kazuma and live in his mansion, whereas aqua is divinely bound to kazuma and shared a pile of hay in a stable with him.
>>98677264See? Insane.
>>98677613Yeah... the recrimination of a pedo lusting after a depiction of a minor doesn't really hurt me.
>>98677613Sick fuck
>>98677658NTA, too old
