>What is /awg/?A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre. Let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.>Examples of games that qualify.A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,Deadzone, Dragon Rampant, Dropfleet & Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Full Spectrum Dominance,Gaslands, HeroClix, Kings of War, Lords & Legends,Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,Oathmark, OnePageRules, Open Combat, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam,SAGA, Sahipkıran, Sludge, Space Weirdos, StarCraft, Stargrave, Sword Weirdos,Urban War, Void Admiral, Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenos Rampant, Xenotactics......and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.>Examples of companies providing rules and/or miniatures for alternative wargames.Archon Studio, Atomic Mass Games, Black Site Studios, CMON, Goblin King Games, Lucid Eye, Mantic,North Star Military Figures, OnePageRules, Osprey, Para Bellum, Seb Games, Spellcrow, TTCombat,Victrix, Wargames Atlantic, Warlord Games......and many other publishers.>Places to get minis; Updates to the minis list are welcome.https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D2DbNJ2mYAUxh5P9Pq9NZqS5tXHGn0i2JhZchEwbA2I/edithttps://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373197.page>Novice Troves, meant to serve as a sampler of available systems. Check out the Share Thread for up-to-date troves.https://pastebin.com/MjtsC8AXhttps://mega.nz/#F!zSYW0I4a!vXh8-UPi_tWXpJES_-p4zgPrevious Thread:>>98649467>Thread QuestionHow do you display your miniatures?
>>98677564On shelves.
>>98677611like so
>>98677705you lighting setup is kinda ass, the blue on that Dutch flag looks almost black
>>98677731That's called sunligh....>dutchOh, a comedian
>>98677564>tqI don't.
>>98677564>How do you display your miniatures?I don't, they just kinda clutter the room in game related piles.
>>98677731That flag isn't Holland, it represents the land of NoPussy.
>>98677705Why do flagfags hate ironing their flags so much?
>>98678292I can't fly it outside or i'll go to jail for hate crime =/
>>98678313notice how the flagfag avoids the question about ironing their fucking flags
>>98678345The explanation is there you just have to infer it by deductive reasoning.
>TQI've a vitrine.
>>98678493is that the latest Detolf alternative?
why is the starcraft game getting so much hate? most of the minis look great.
>>98678576I find it strange that they are so extremely big and the game is played in such a small board.
>>98678596holy fuck that's really big
>>98678576>why is the starcraft game getting so much hate?It isn't.>>986785963 x 5/6 is hardly small
>>98678610>3 x 5/6What the fuck is that unit of measurement, no wonder the US uses metric for anything important and then convert it to imperial. Regardless of that it is 54"x36". That is smaller than the already stupidly small 40k boards of 60"x44"Specially when the old 6'x4' that 40k used to have was already too small.
>>98678702>What the fuck is that unit of measurement,It's 3 foot by 5 foot or 6 foot, what the fuck do you think it was? Centimeters? Fucking idiot.Anyway, that's not a small space. 2 x 2 is a small space. 3 x 3 is a small space. Anything that has 5 or more foot in its measurement is not small.
>>98678576Would have given it a try if the scale was smaller, like 10 maybe 15mm instead of this giant stuff
Are there any games that have like base building, base defence as part of the game? .. ilke playing and rts or maybe simple dota lite elements?
>>98678596that is stupidly big thinking of how big some starcraft units ARE
>>98678963It's advertising, can't have people see "gamers playing with indeterminate minis" tgrough tbe LGS full length wall-to-wall windows on the sidewalk, it needs to be very clear what ip the minis are
>Nooo it's too big!Same total height as an intercessor.
>>98678576If it was an appropriate scale for the gameplay I would expect out of an adaptation of an RTS, instead of the appropriate scale for a business decision to try and capture some of the 40k market share, I'd be interested.>>98678787Hm, wonder if there's an IP that would involve these things that could be interesting to see on the tabletop...
>>98679005Yes, and? Primaris are also too big.
>>98679118They're fine.
>>98679126I used to think Warhammer heroics were the tits. Then I held a LOTRSBG figure and knew this was where I belonged. Fireforge is as big I like them now.
>>98679169>LOTRSBGFucking kino. Love that game. Scale for your consideration.
>>98679126Not for me. If a model of the basic 5-10 dudes squad don't fit on a 25mm base then I am not interested in your game.
>>98679206If that's your opinion, then you're entitled to it.
>>98679225Wtf, at least call me a faggot.
>>98679235
>>98679185Might as well share some of my wips. Yeah, chunkier figures can be fun to paint.
>>98679005Primaris makes a mockery of the "approximate 1 inch cube" scale of wargaming.
>>98679285I like painting all different scales, but larger is definitely easier imo>>98679303Frankly, I don't care. If I have a good time with a game, that's all that matters. If I don't, then I don't play that game. Classic and modern conventions matter little when compared to the ultimate goal, having fun.
>>98677564>How do you display your miniatures?I've got a display case and a china cabinet. I am wait to add more space until after a move
>>98679509I like your big Skellibaba
So is WGA not releasing new orcs anytime soon? They released the 3d print ones and the epic battle scale ones. I assumed they would release some new 28mm plastic kits. They seem to release such random shit.
>>98677564>>TQ
Frostgrave this week ended up as a 1v1, I onboarded a new guy who borrowed my Necromancer warband. He learned his lesson about sending his wizard into combat and escaped with two treasures.
>>98680840Also, the dungeon board is coming along well
I just realized something. Wouldn't it be possible to kitbash the warring states kits with the dark age kits? Like, you want unarmored cavalry just give them weapons and heads and there you go. >>98680842Sweet.
>>98680848Probably, yeah. Historians might notice oddities, but I doubt most people would. If you're doing it for fantasy stuff, no issue at all.
Suh dudesI ordered these slave girl miniatures to use as objective markers for blood and plunder. However I want it to be gender equal and have hunky male slaves to go along with them (it's 2026 chud)I really can't find a fucking thing, especially in heroic scale. Any help?
>>98680842Proonted?
>>98681041Fuck off fag
>>98680608Orcs were not included in this year's releases.
>>98681079Literally not a single interesting kit
>>98680848No-one is stopping you, WGA tries to make their kits cross-compatible across ranges. I thought of kitbashing their late Romans in squamata with the warring states.
>>98681061The slaves are clearly for my boyfriend (bottom) and not me (top)Check yourself
>>98681082I disagree. UAMC hardsuits, gladiators, warring states cavalry, mutation sprues, hussars and sturmtruppen are all interesting to me. I wonder if the sturmtruppen are an expansion of the marcher range or if they are for WWI though.
>>98680840Comfy board. You did put me in a jolly spirit.
Bros, I wish I had started this hobby with 15mm instead of 28mm. Thinking about switching for sci-fi games, but I have so many 28mm terrain and minis already.
>>98677705kek absolute Unterschicht, aber logn, wenn man schon ne Reichkriegsflagge hängen hat.
>>98681325I sold my pile of shame and did just that.
>>98681413I think I'll get three more skirmish teams, the usual 10 minis type, in 28mm, and that's it for me.
>>98681325It is so easy to print and paint 15 and 10mm miniatures. And there is so much terrain for that size, just get started on itOnce you go small, you don't go back
>>98677705Yo, flying circus anon, good to see you!>>98678292Why do screeching lefty rainbow cultists kvetch and wail at people showing even a slight amount of love for their nation and/or history?
what are the best solo/coop miniature games right now ?
>>98681561It's important to commemorate Germany and her many defeats I agree
>want to do a side project with the Northstar hussite wars knights>the cost for all the grass and flower tufts I need are almost at 80 eurosWHY ARE FLOWER TUFTS SO FUCKING EXPENSIVE, I JUST WANT A NICE MEADOW BASING
>>98682346Your basing designs may be too ambitious
>>98682346Do you live near a field? Maybe you need to get a leaf punch and a nice walk outside.
>>98682346How much do you need?!?!But have you taken a look at krautcover, real good stuff
>>98682346bedcause unlike injection molded plastic, or a jar of cleaned sand, they take real effort to create
>>98682346Look for >mini dried flowers on your euro equvilant of amazon. 300 of them are less than $10 in rural leafistan. Lots of ways to get grass tufts, either cutting up a used door mat or getting a variety pack of disposable house painting brushes. Tape the base where you want to cut and you've got tufts.
>>98681933>defeatYou won a battle but not the war, a man who has been dead nigh on a century is still your greatest enemy.
>>98682449I just want a grass field look that looks natural, not just the typical one or two tufts on sand painted brown.>>98682524Oh leaf punchers are really cheap but I have no use for one since this will depict a field in summer.>>98682726I'm going to order from a local retailer and a box of grass tufts costs around 7,89 euro. What's driving up the total is that I would like three different tiny flower tuft sets. >>98682839True. >>98683150Too big my friend but thanks for the tip.
>>98677564What minis are those?
>>98683342at least some of them (the characters) are def old warhammer models
>>98683304>Too big These about right? Found them looking for >model train flowers $16 CND. Are the prices that different in eurovision? I have no sense of how much it changes for little crafting doodads.
>>98683392I'm getting tufts from gamers grass, a mix of grasses in different hues of summer greens and size, and 4mm flower tufts. 6mm flower tufts are way too big for 25mm bases but I have some 6mm flower tufts already.
>>98683364Ah okay, rhank you. they look nice
>>98683424>4mm weeee tiny then. Post it when you're working on it, sounds interesting. I've been looking at flowers wanting to do something like
>>98680663MUTANT CHRONICLES SPOTTED! I've got a still sealed Capitol Sea Lions box.
>>98683424Look into dyed sawdust. It's usually pretty cheap and comes in most grassy colors.
Make your own tufts? Build a static grass applicator then dab on thick acrylic paint in the color flowers you want by mixing it with a thick medium?
>>98684085Just buy the damn things, they're cheap as chips and will look better.
>>98683304>I just want a grass field look that looks natural, not just the typical one or two tufts on sand painted brownGet some teddy bear fur.
>>98683265Lol, nope. He only comes up when I'm here. Then we re bury him.
I like how apparently these have been done since like March.Doesn't look like unarmore cavalry will be a thing, so Mongol horsemen for northern auxiliaries will be a great boon. Or dark age horsemen with Chinese heads as "local levies".The sad thing is, I'm just gonna paint them like Wei troops out of DW.
>>98684476delusional
>>98684642Guess the Quar are delayed another two weeksFucking things have been listed as done since August
>>98684648Your worldview is distorted because people like you cannot talk about anything else.
>>98684729>says the guy who brought it up
More vampires on bat monsters incoming.
>>98681041Why anyone would buy this garbage when 3D printing has been a thing for 10 years is beyond me.
>>98683342It's some of Ana's stuff https://gardensofhecate.com/projects-gallery/miniature/undead-armyShe does a shitload of conversions and sculpting, not unlike our own Behelit-anon. Ramshackle carries some of her models, and IIRC there are a couple other stores that have her other stuff scattered around. There are close-ups in the gallery and the article (check the "undead" tag), there's a lot of modded old GW models in there.
>>98685194cults has far better nude slave girls for free, I downloaded them years ago and made slaaneshi cultists of them.
Is warmachine in a good spot rn
>>98685573Its in a decent spot.
>>98685194Because they prefer metal models. I certainly do
>>98683605I know who's about to get sniped in the head
>>98681079>>98681086>>98684655The new quar starter should be up next? Maybe there's some reshuffle that'll be announced in tomorrow's newsletter.
>>98683605Need more art like this.the focus us on the eternally edgy grimdark, but if you really read into the lore the majority of worlds are actually peaceful, playerbase knowledge is grim and dark but the in-universe subjective knowledge of all that is rather low.
>>98682346>what my Polish mind sees when you say "Czech knights"
I like a lot of Alternative Armies sci-fi stuff, both their inherited ranges and their own
I'm considering switching to mdf bases for future projects but I hear that it can warp. Would 2mm thick mdf bases from around 25mm up to 120mm be okay, or might they be liable to warp?
>>98687848I like them too, but I heard the owner is racist...
>>98688429Is that some sort of sin against your religion? they sell stuff
I have models I need to paint but I have zero enthusiasm.
>>98688437Not really, I was joking. I actually don't care, I just saw people straight up boycotting them despite liking their products. Although I do admit it is pretty cringe of the AA dude to post his views unrelated to the hobby through his business channels.
>>98688429>but I heard the owner is racist...I knew there was a reason I felt good about buying from him
Why might small blue collar artisan manufactures have opinions against neoliberalism that ships their work half way across the world and replaces creative roles with cheap import workers?
>>98688482Why would anyone give a shit about some boomer's Facebook post he put in the wrong website?
>>98688450Paying any attention to the personal political views of any creative, regardless of medium or ideological whateverthefuck is always a terrible idea. They got good at making things, they did not get good at thinking about the world. Its like asking a musician what they think about anything not music. Bad idea, direct path to realizing they're fucking retarded.
>>98688429Funny enough I actually found out about the brand when some godawful discord server I was in started shitting and pissing about the creator. "Oh, nice models but I guess I can't show up with them now". Letting these people drag you into their constant dramas is a great way to have no fun at all. It's something new every week.
>>98688440Same anon, there's a game I want to play with my brother and my army is 11 models. I've base coated ONE dudes armour. If I don't paint something tomorrow I might hang myself.
>>9868874811 models can't be an army, I hate the terminology.A small warband was hundreds of men, this is just some guy and his retinue.Yes I know it's autistic but if I wasn't I wouldn't be here.
>>98688885>I hate the terminology.I don't care, it's a convenient and widely understood colloquialism in wargaming. Cry somewhere else, or back in the historical threads where you belong.
Duncan Rhode's miniatures look very GW and the name of the game is very GW world salad, it's Lords & Legends: The Voidshadow Requiem
>>98688893
>>98688890>Cry somewhere elseMake me.
>>98688901Were I only able.
Looking forward to doing a fun.
>>98688898What's with the fucking mouths why are they goofy.
>>98688930RE-UHL-IZM
>>98688898That lady has an awfully big sword.
>>98688976Just wait until you see what's under her dress :^)
>>98688885I thought we'd all unanimously agreed on always calling them Groupings, Voluntary or Otherwise, of Lesser than Large Arbitrary Number, of Indeterminate Timeframe, Historical Context or Fantastical Upto and Including Scifi and Alternate Historical Settings, For the Purposes of Conflict, Violence and Destruction With or Without Formal Nation State (or Equivalent) Declaration of Intent Parties. (Note police actions and fictional creatures and their sociocultural or other predilections may or may not be covered by the above terms and agreements, see section 2.5.12 for exceptions regarding automated entities and the divisions of technology and enfranchisement)
Not my scene but I know some of the hipsters post on here. Anyway, Matt Ross aka Smashbash aka @totally_not_panicking hasn't been paying people for the collaboration miniatures he's responsible for selling, to the point people like Miscast Trent has had to take loans out to pay the rent. Scummy
>>98688993Rolls right off the tongue.
>>98689025>GVOLLANITHCFUISAHSFPoCV&Dw/woFNS(E)DoIPis a bit clunky but I think it should keep everyone more or less on the same page with a clear and functional definition.
>>98688885It's wargame terminology, not military terminology. Doesn't matter if it's a hundred 10mm dudes, a dozen 28mm lizards, or two matchbox cars the units you've selected to play with is your army.
>>98689021lol classy
>>98689062I prefer >>98688993 to be honest.
>>98689021>$20USDPatt, the Gardens of Hecate stuff being overpriced in the other thread was not supposed to be a challenge to you personally.
>>98689094Good luck convincing everyone to use it.
>>98688885>a warband was hundreds of menNah. Depends on the time period and population. Anyways eat shit you autistic cunt.
>>98689136Haha yeah I was just thinking that. Crazy prices. I know not everything can be the same price as the numerous companies selling Grenadier sculpts but there's a point when it seems way too much for sometimes quite rough sculpts.
>>98688993jej
>>98689021Yeah I've been watching my Instagram blow up over this shit since last night. I'm the guy who posted >>98688719 as well so I'll say it again. The "28" hobby scene, God bless them, I like their models, I like their events, I like their whole approach to the hobby... But it's ALWAYS fucking some new drama. Like actual soap opera shit where you roll your eyes hard enough to hurt yourself. Remember last year in Nottingham where your same guy - poor Trent, plus Ramshackle Curtis, were getting fucked over by that landlord who's dating Roguehobbies. And that was a whole week of shitrain that went nowhere. Same people had this weird struggle session thing a month or so ago where you had to get mad at Grimdark Compendium because they'd reposted some right-wing guy's models on their channel. Like who fucking cares? At least when a former friend starts fucking you over financially that's a genuine reason to be mad, so props to them for having a real grievance this time. It's just that the amount of drama they stir up, overall, leads me to keep the whole scene at arm's length.
>>98689237Yeah agreed, and like many small scenes people are either knobs who take advantage of others, or start thinking they're a celebrity.See what SPRU kicks up. There were 150 tickets left the last time I looked, no idea what capacity is, big venue for such a show so hopefully that means they've sold like 500 or something. There was some silly drama there too with Department of Wargaming dropping out.
>>98689237>tldr artsy fartsy types in a small niche clic get into drama with eachother constantly.Color me shocked. These type of people were always like that but it's gotten way worse with social media.
>>98689165Retard.
>>98689136>Six model bundle >$100Man I didn't mind spending a little extra for have sculpted minis from small artists, but this is goofy.
I wish Konflikt 47 was good
>>98689503why don't you like it? I find it fun
>>98688719I really doubt Gavin and the crew are anything more than moderately conservative. They have always been pretty nice to deal with and chuck in freebies. I'll give the old fella the benefit of the doubt, they've been going since the eighties so if he were that awful you'd hear about it outside of Paedocord. Just got a massive order from them and GZG and I am a very happy man
>>98689586It's got all the flaws of Bolt Action with the extra flaw that actual normal stuff is power crept to hell so only mechs and mutants are worth taking. And the mutants are inexplicably immune to bullets for no reason even though the power armor infantry aren't.
>>98689612It was actually pretty bad lel, real fascistic stuff on Twitter, being objective
>>98689632>being objective >while vague posting about someone being le fash on twitter Either post screen caps and present a real case or fuck off.
>>98689632Yeah I'm sceptical Sounds like shit stirring from the plastic slop brigade
>>98689632>it's really bad when someone expresses political opinions outside the two positions curated by MSMFuck off.
>>98689656>>98689699>>98689864nta, I don't know why this message had to be written by their business accountBut I'd still buy their product, because it's good. Only if shipping from UK wouldn't cost so much, I hate that>>98688893This looks cool, but I dislike the scale
>>98690609>its fascist to speak out against being demographically replaced in your own country. Lol? I might just buy stuff i don't need to support this fellow.
>>98690609>>98689632How is this fascist?
>>98690627>>98690645to be fair, this might not be what that other anon referred to as "fascist", this is just what I know of him being a fool online
>>98690609Putting in a massive order rn
>>98690609>the obvious truth that muslims hate the west, as they keep saying>this is "real fascistic stuff"Weird to post from a business account maybe, but noticing reality is only modestly right-wing.
>>98690609The anti-islam angle is a bit dated, but now that you mentioned it, I should financially support a racist creator!
Are there any good epic/warmaster/10mm scale tyranid like miniatures or monster ranges? Wanna included some alien like beasts in our 10mm fantasy game
This sounds an awful lot like non-wargaming talking, go be miserable somewhere else
>>98690671Bait.
>>98690721Yeah, to break up the /pol/ retardation, Quad actually soon.
>>98690749The best I can get you is some Quar, hope that's enough.
>>98690758Yes, autocorrect is the enemy. Looks like after decals there's cheevish and a new starter.
Why is almost every miniature designer just ripping GW design, always all the same. Are there no truly unique army sculpts out there
>>98688429Damn, I definitely need to buy from them now
>>98690975>why does everyone keep copying the thing that sells the most by a huge marginA mystery for the ages.If anything I have to wonder why there aren't more plastic kits of power armoured dudes. Mantic have theirs, WGA have the Iron Core guys, EM4 have the old Space Rangers, but I think that's it. Plenty of resin and metal, and even a plastic kit of power armoured girls.
>>98690975>Why do people in a market ape the most successful member of said marketMoney.Like how that Martyrdom game is looking to be Warhammer Ancient Battles again but based to match Old World. Personally, the fact it's not multiples of 25mm like in Oathmark ruffles my feathers the wrong way.
>>98690975>almost every miniature designerEmphasis on almost because it's mainly a big fish industry problem. Be it Halo or Fallout or Starcraft the risk is so big no one was willing to be audacious.>no truly uniqueYou started with almost so stick with almost. Any cottage miniature maker has some unique and weird sculpted potato to sell.
>>98690975>Are there no truly unique army sculpts out there
Then show me a truly unique alien race, that is not just tyranids or cthulhu with guns glued on
>>98691107Hmm, nyo
>>98690609damn, guess I'll chuck a big order this lad's way
>>98690688Shouldn't a nation/country/society be able to determines who can and who can't join them, based on their own criteria/wishes?And shouldn't the government of said nation/country/society do a better job in reflecting the aforementioned wishes or criteria ?
>>98691238and what does that have to do with>/awg/ ⟅Alternative Wargames General⟆Go talk to another wall somewhere
So what are you currently working on lads? I'm working on armour for these reaper wolf demons, but haven't decided if the more ornate armour plates are better than the more plain ones. The former have the problem of being a lot chunkier than the latter. But this might be an issue of me spending too much time at looking at these models up close.I've also heard that reaper bones don't take kindly to primer. I washed the model in warm water and dishwasher soap before I started gluing any bits on. Will this help the primer stick better?
>>98691259have just been printing some more10mm models, and started painting them up, so we can try out rattle and rend
>>98691277Streltsy?
>>98691291yes some kislev Streltsy models
Does anyone know who made these crabmen? And if they're still in production?
>>98691403Damn they look cursed af
>>98691259Thr mold-release agent was worst on the white Bones. Washing in warm water and soap does help. You can test it by putting a stroke of paint on the unprimed model; if it beads up, you didn't clean enough.
>>98691403Funnily lad I think I saw this question elsewhere recently and I thought I had an answer but I don't.They are my mutual's miniatures, I recognised the style immediately, but he doesn't know where they are from lolhttps://hobgoblinry.blogspot.com/2019/09/contrast-paints-and-black-undercoat.html
>>98690975Biggest problem is to get attention for your system and cater to the common taste of customers.If you are too different or unique, people dislike your designs = no sales. If you ape GW and are cheaper than it is possible people buy it as stand-ins = more sales.
Fresh battle today, the Imperial forces under Golfric, cavalry elements reformed, are ambushed on the march by Snazzgits remaining forces. I rolled for element recovery, 3+ for Goblins, 4+ for Orcs, 5+ for trolls and knights. In the end Snazzgit was only able to recover one element of goblins and the lost wolf chariots, whilst Golfric recovered both knights.Snazzgit sprung his ambush as the column entered the gap between the hills. The initial rush did well, the Goblins destroying the lead knight element and the wolf chariots destroying the Imperial handgunners, but the tide began to turn and although they managed to destroy a spear element, the Imperial column formed up and destroyed the Goblin forces. Only Snazzgit escaped.
>>98691532Yeah somebody from LAF was asking this.Usually you'd get an answer within the hour, but this got everybody stumped, to the point that I'm very curious too. I figured this would be a good place to ask.
>>98690609It's good to see that some people don't view business as a holy cow to which their own personal interests must play a silent second fiddle.I print and have no reason to buy minis, but I'm considering making at least a token gesture to this guy, i'll have to browse the offerings.
>>98691912I'm not 100% if it was actually Gav or like his boomer dad/guy who "owns" the company
>>98691930Doesn't matter, when you're dehydrated in a desert even a single drop of dew is a prize.
>>98691912it's really just unnecessary shit stirring from business point of viewwhat are the odds you'd gain anything from it? 20 more ppl end up buying your product because your interests align? and how many end up going elsewhere because of it?it makes no sense to me
>Scotia Grendel are a bit dodgy>Alternative Armies are a bit dodgy>Edinburgh Miniature Company went to .stl onlyWhy is wargaming in Scotland so weird? You'd think proximity would make it similar to England.
>>98692011For some people money is only important in the context of having enough to get by and isn't a sacred idol and ultimate life goal.The orc rock band looks cool and would be a great sideline piece for a big blood bowl pitch project I've had on pause for awhile, might be just the thing I need to get me back on it.Currently have like 30-40 fans for the bleachers that are unpainted and have been waiting years.
>>98692011As a philosopher once said, it's not about money, it's about sending a message.
>>98692044>For some people money is only important in the context of having enough to get by and isn't a sacred idol and ultimate life goal.still makes no sense, there is no evidence of it affecting sales, just makes you look like a fool
>>98692128>accurate observations make you look like a fool
>>98692128as small a business as it may be... it's bigger than you and obviously doesn't care if you think them foolish.
>>98692143it's not about what they said, it's about where, or how, they said it>>98692147that's fine, just hope they won't go off the deep end so bad it affects their business
>>98692171>posting on Twitter makes you look foolishI don't exactly disagree, but just how you feel about Twitter rather than anything to do with the guy in question.
>>98692209could've done it anywhere else it would be the same in my eyeshe wore his work clothes(used official account to post) and acted like he shouldn't when someone is wearing their work clothes(posted about politics stuff not related to business)that's all, I think that's silly, you open up not just yourself but also your business as a target of drama and controversy
>there is no evidence of it affecting salesIt's funny because whilst I can't say it's a fall in sales for certain, they only have to file micro-accounts with Companies House, but their "current assets" have absolutely collapsed in 2025 with a big loan or something too. Interesting.Alector Ltd is the company behind AA
>>98692236I don't know when they posted the things, also I can imagine many things possibly fucking over UK businesses at this point, especially the metal mini makers.
>>98692266Indeed, could basically be pewter costs as it's not a loan over more than a year. But only having about 3k of liquidity isn't good.
>>98692336Shame, but makes sense. For example I would've bought stuff from them already too, but there were simply cheaper alternatives to satiate my mini needs at the time.
>>98689503I think it's really good, except for melee.
>>98682346What are you looking at?I did my LotR minis with a similar idea in mind. Regular meadow with the odd flower for the good guys here and there.I put down a 3mm grass flock base layer first before adding some tufts and some woodland scenics flock for variety. Loose flock is way cheaper than tufts and can do a lot of heavy lifting in terms of layering textures for you.The trick is to look at railway modelling supplies and not wargaming supplies though (like in ye olden days when that was the only thing you could buy when building tables etc. These days there is a small cottage industry around selling smaller badges of stuff to wargamers for marked up prices).You can get big boxes of tufts for around 20 bucks from mininatur.de for example. Big means "ca 42x15cm 305,50 / m2" sheets of plastic filled with tufts. Those sizes are meant for railway layouts and you can easily do 100-200 miniature bases with those.They also sell the colored flock for flowers by itself in little baggies for about ~5 bucks. So you can just use regular tufts and apply a bit of pva with a brush over the tips of your bushels and add the blooms by hand. Depending on the look you are after that might be a good alternative to buying premade tufts as well.
>>98678787Cloth Goblins for Forbidden Psalm has three simple scenarios where you collect wood, build a fort and defend it. It's really barebones which is kind of the point but you could always add to it.
>>98678787A lot of campaign based games have elements of that - mostly as an upkeep type of mechanic between the scenarios being played though.OG Necromunda had you manage territories, Some supplements for Frostgrave 1st edition allowed you to buy hideouts and equip them with room allowing you to take more men, brew potions etc.Base defense as part of the game would be basically any mission/scnerio with an attacker and defender, which most wargames do have on some level. It just doesn't tie into an in-game economy like with an RTS. It's really beyond the scope of what you can model in a single mission I suppose. You are dipping into territory of grand strategy games with that sort of stuff. Risk or any hex and chit type game I suppose.
>>98692011And yet if he's saying all migrants are welcome and slobbering over muhammeds cock you would be defending him with rabid fanaticism. Personally, I agree with AA but that's never affected how I've spent my money over the years. I would have bought the models I bought from him regardless, I just feel a bit better as I know I'm also supporting a fellow lover of my country and people.
>>98692885>And yet if he's saying all migrants are welcome and slobbering over muhammeds cock you would be defending him with rabid fanaticism.No, I would not, that is even more retarded than what he wrote.
>>98692885You're making things up to be angry about.
Anybody see anything in the Warhammer preview that interest them? I'm digging those Legionaries.
>>98694673Some of the dwarfs are intriguing, too bad nuGE scale is what it is so they would absolutely mog the rest of my dwarf collection and stick out too much
>>98694958>they would absolutely mog the rest of my dwarf collection and stick out too muchUnfortunate, that's gotta suck.
https://www.smashbash.org/truthLol
>>98691403Looks like it could be based on the Fiend Factory Crabman, but obviously isn't the same sculpt because the torso and legs have more detail.http://sodemons.com/rhff/P201406150022-01.htm>>98692044>sacred idol and ultimate life goal.>having the basic professionalism not to stick personal shit on your work account means you must be a hypercapitalist voidStay far away from employment.
>liking the GW dwarves Dios mio.
>>98695014What am I looking at?
>>98695021Yeah they're very similar, although the ones in the first picture appear to me much more modern sculpts.
>>98695021TFW you realize you trusted the wrong fart
>>98694978Eh... I still have plenty of dwarfs that need painting and attention so it's not like i would have rushed to get these ones anyways.Just yesterday i got a boatload of lead Grenadier dwarfs from the 80s that i can't wait to strip and paint.>>98695053Honestly, given how there are dwarfs in all sort of variants and flavours out there, with dozens of manufacturers producing hundreds of different themed dwarfs, I'm ok with GW taking theirs in a different directionThere are a few good ones. The heroes and the king on the throne are very cool miniatures.The ones with the hand cannons do intrigue meThe axe warriors are fairly generic.I don't care for the golems.I honestly don't understand who the target demographic is for the female dwarfs. It's not the fact that they're female (the red-headed princess is a lovely model), but they're just very ugly models. I'm like... how did these pass all the layers of approval I'm assuming GW has before releasing something to the public.
Has anyone tried Ivan's game, FiveCore 3rd edition: Skirmish Gaming Evolved?
>>98691831Sorry which ruleset?
>>98678787Not base building but A Billion Suns allow you to buy units in-game like in any RTS.
Warriors of Athena sprue from north star.
>>98695667Looks cool, might be useful as heroes/command.
>>98695021Nah, fuck that.Either businesses don't need social media, or nothing's off the table.Every big business in the world is doing the same shit but for the other side.
>>98695767Retard.
>>98695667Hope they end up making multiple of these like the Frostgrave Cultists, enough so I can eventually use them to just make an historical Greek army
>>98695775Butthurt much?
So, how's Oathmark 2?I figured I'd wait to get it until all the warring state stuff comes out since I got all the 1e books already.
>>98690758You always do good work.
>>98696229Long story short, it's basically an improvement on 1E, except that they fucked the balance by making Orcs strictly worse than Humans. I think maybe it was a typo, and they should've had 1 point more Fight or cost 1 point less.
>>98695522Hordes of Things. Sion to be nodded to include some more granularity/missing units
>>98695775Your just mad because he's right and also refusing to bend the knee.>>98696229Pretty much what >>98696307 said. Most stuff is a major improvement although i am leary of the racial rules, but Orcs got done over bad and I whole heartedly endorse letting them use the 1e lists, or giving them +1 fight across the board.
>>98696532I think +1 fight is good for them. Feels orcish. Making them cheaper is already covered by goblins.
>>98696698I'm SuperChud.I take a break from time to time though.I have a lot of tractors now.Here's a broad shot, also with the models I assembled or had printed as dismounted crew, which is not really a part of standard gameplay, but they are available, so implicitly, they can be used in custom scenarios.Almost enough for Quar Kursk.Next thing I'm working on getting is a Coftyran Ailthean, once me mate sorts out his printer.reservoir breach has lead to resin dribbling out all over his floor.
>>98696736>Coftyran AiltheanAerthyn, rather, one of these; a troop carrier.The Ailthean is the big green thing second from left.
Any decent solo wargames?
>>98681079> Landknecht Ogre Gunnners>Landknecht Ogre Linebreakers>2>2 more fucking puffy sleeved ogre kitsDo people really want this?
>>98697014CFBs are the tiny versions so it's not really 2 "more"
>>98696974No, wargaming is a social activity and doing it on your own is just sad
>>98697034Hey it's not my fault my friends don't car about it and my local game store only plays 40k
>>98695767>Either businesses don't need social mediaThe only reason for a business to have social media is to give people updates on their products and services. Unless the demographics of Edinburgh are affecting AA's ability to sell me shit, then it should not be on their business account. Throw a "last white man in Scotland" sale or introduce a Based Defenders of the Haggis line and it'll be business-relevant.>Every big business in the world is doing the same shit but for the other side.Other people being faggots is not an excuse for being a faggot yourself. Be better or begone.
>>98695014It's done him no good, social media is still hating on the guy. I guess they also timed it to screw him back because all this came out the day before he was releasing his own game. The lesson here is that trying to monetize your participation in a cliquey hobby scene is just not a good career path. Maybe Ramshackle games pulled it off but he seems to barely hang on.
>>98694673Why the fuck would you pay attention to what GW is doing in 2026?
>>98696974You can play basically anything solo, with the main issue being hidden information has to be random instead which often sucks.I'd say start with Five Parsecs from Home because it's simple and has actual rules for everything except terrain placement rather than just, "make something up" which isn't helpful for a beginner. Once you're comfortable with it you can change or replace rules if you want more crunch or the like, or move on.
Maybe it interests someone here:Knightmare minis is running a Kickstarter "Greenskin Wars - Reinforcements!" for around a dozen of new orc and goblin sculpts.
>>98694673The Necromunda RPG mite b cool
>>98695667Will there be a separate shield sprue? The Victrix one is not sold at all in my country and constantly out of stock abroad.
>>98697160In /awg/ of all places.
>>98697854Yeah there's this sprue as well.
>>98697160Their sculpt updates usually mean their old variants go on massive sale on the secondary market. I for one can't wait to buy whacky oldhammer skeletons for cents.
>>98697086No, social media is for persons.So why aren't you bitching about all the rest? yoour argument for businesses on social media is "its the norm" well, same goes for conduct.
>>98698269>No, social media is for persons.No, retard. It's for communication with people. If a business wants to communicate that they have a sale on, or a new line coming out, then social media is an appropriate publicity channel.>So why aren't you bitching about all the rest?Because it's not relevant to this conversation. This conversation is about a specific instance of a business owner putting his politics on his company account, not any other.
If I look around where I live the whole "conspiracy theory" angle about replacement from the mainstream media rings hollow, because while I've lived here the whole place has become an arab ghetto around me.That aside what is the point of arguing with a random person about what a a third person posts on his social media? Personally I think the AA guy is correct, but I also think a business account is for business. Just a matter of keeping it professional. Either way arguing with a rando isn't gonna change the postings from the AA account nor prove the reality of the situation to an indoctrinated mind.
>>98698210In this day and age? I hope you're right because I'm an oldhammer enjoyer and my money is on scalping.
>>98696478I'm just getting into HotT and I like the abstraction and unit interactions but I'm also planning to add some flavor to different elements like +1 to elf Lurkers if they initiate combat in Bad Terrain. Care to share some ideas? What units would you add?
What are your prefered scale for games? .. Really started to get into 10mm miniatures and games, and I find it hard to ever go back to 28 again
>>98698210This hasn't been the case for at least 10 years. I've never bought GW miniatures that weren't 2nd hand, and can tell you that at least sonce 2013ish, GW miniatures on the secondary market have seen a steady price increase.After the demise of warhammer fantasy there was significant but short lived dip in price before prices started going up even more.I used to spend less than 50 cents canadian per infantry sized models (when buying lots); nowadays it's really hard to find anything less than 70% of its new retail price.You can still find some good deals, but it's become much harder and rarer than it used to be.I hope you can find some cheap skeletons anon, good luck.
>>98695512>Has anyone tried Ivan's game, FiveCore 3rd edition: Skirmish Gaming Evolved?Yep. What's up?
>>98698735No, it is for persons.Businesses have their own websites and advertisements to inform customers of what they are doing, usage of social media is just a way to cut advertising costs, it doesn't change that social media was created for persons to communicate with each other.Business entities do not socialize, they advertise, it is not called advertising media.And I expect you to get exactly this butthurt and boycott every company that does so if you expect to be given the treatment of a neutral party on the subject.
Dungeon board is coming along. I'll have a bunch of scatter terrain features to add to the main room.
>>98699934Saved me the effort. He must be a zoomer thinking this shitty corporate Internet is the norm.
>>98699934>>98700031The internet was made for DARPA, but people mostly use it look at titties now. So what? Can't police how people use it.
>>98700043>Can't police how people use it.except for all the people who have been fined or even imprisoned for saying mean stuff on the internet.Next time you make a strawman make sure it hasn't been repeatedly sacrificially burned first.
Anyone know the status of forest dragon miniatures lizardmen range remake?
>>98700074It's not a strawman you are just bad at reading comprehension.That is local law being applied to conduct on the internet, not actually policing how people use the internet.Saying "x what made to do one thing" does not equate everyone only using it for that purpose. And yes companies do cut their costs wherever they can, including advertisement. Wow. More news at 11.What even is your point? You don't want corporate accounts at all in what to ammounts to "the public forum"? Try to square that with the law anywhere.
>>98695667What is the box size? Is it the oath-mark 30?
>>98699486I feel you, I got into 10mm not long ago and I'm loving it.6mm for some mechanized combat focused games.15mm for moderns like Force on Force.28mm for skirmish or "mass" skirmish games (because I do have the space for that but storage is always an issue).
>>98700214 10, like frostgrave knights.Does anyone here happen to have victrix ancient gallic cavalry lying around? I wonder if they're bigger than WGA cavalry.
>>98700112>policing the internet isn't akshually policing the internet
>>98700235whatever gets me smaller tables to play on
>>98699226At the moment I'm looking at Orc cavalry, move like Riders but have +4 vs infantry, but are destroyed if they charge and fail to win and have to pursue, warwagons that shoot 200p with a universal +3 combat modifier but never recoils, and a psioli or skirmishers equivalent with warband movement but is incredibly tough to pin down.
>>98700112Holy shit, are you an actual unironic retard? >"Erm akshually no people being policed for what they say on the Internet isn't policing the Internet"Or are you one of those lefty troonloons who thinks that people being persecuted for speaking out against the party mantra is a heckin GOOD thing actually?
>>98700417Anon is quite clearly trying very hard to appear neutral while transparently siding with the approved positions.
>>98688429>I heard the owner is racist...Against who though?
>>98700235what 10mm manufacturer or creator do you go with ?
>>98700697I can only get 10mm 3D prints here so it's a mix of Forest Dragon, Cromarty Forge, Peculiar Companions and some digital kitbashes over tgram.On a side note, does anyone here tried Alien Squad Leader?
>>98699705This is my experience too. I honestly love some of the old GW stuff but the secondary market is shit. You're better off finding a recaster because anything good has been OOP for about a decade or at least twice the price of comparable models you could get new somewhere else.
What are everyone's favorite AA models?All the yapping makes my wanna give them money.
>>98702338Oh, I've seen that castle! :DHaven't been able to buy it deysu
>>98702338Archivers on Telegram and elsewhere are doing a pretty good job at scanning old sculpts and cleaning them when not straight up remaking them from nothing. It's going to be fine.
Question, anyone here keeping an eye on or backing the kickstarter for the new skirmish game wyldwood?Ive all in'd as i really love the setting and the models looks so nice to paint and play with.
anyone got a link to some 10mm stls? .. mainly looking for the old, now removed, forest dragon miniature lizardmen
>>98702359Well Fomorians are pretty good.
>>98684642Not gonna lie they look awful.
>>98702879>Markets itself as a stone age setting>Human faction is industrial themed and has metal tools and is "Making war on nature"Besides being a hamfisted environmentalist tract, I'm indifferent to the designs.The best I can say is I don't hate it.Though you remind me that I lost my Copplestone Castings cavemen when I moved a few years back and should get more.
>>98702889The whole Erin line are pretty charming.I prefer my Fomorians more varied though.I highly rate their Sidhe and Milesians.
>>98702742It's on Amazon I think.
>>9867756440Kfag here, wondering what other miniature agnostic systems like OPR try to somewhat recreate a streamlined version of 40K with less rules autism? Any recommendations
>>98703381Osprey has printed at least half a dozen of them. just a matter of figuring out exactly how much fiddliness you actually want. you can try xenos rampant which is 40k with more of a rick priestley design philosophy. there's also the mantic shit like deadzone and warpath.
>>98703406>40k with more of a rick priestley design philosophy
>>98703381No Limits! and Tomorrow's War could work out for you, but if you're set on the kind of streamlining seen in OPR, probably Xenos Rampant like >>98703406 suggests. I like to suggest NL! and TW because of how robust the force building is. You can really build the quality into your troops to reflect the fluff of whatever 40k army you're trying to adapt. Warzone also works for that quality representation, but still too heavy a system, plus no SDR exists in the wild to do that, would be all vibes to throw things together.
>>98703416You'd have to use a microscope to find any in current year 40k to be sure.Put the nigger back in the crate and we can be caucasian about this.
>>98703113>Besides being a hamfisted environmentalist tract,i get that, out of the 5 factions coming out the humans are the ones im least interested in.Other factions are:>Satyr/wood elf hippies led by a deer centaur>Orc elementalist who speak to their ancestors through giant trees similar to na'vi>Dwarf cavemen with a hunting culture, leader rides a giant bear>Undead trees, zombie dryads, leader is just a giant tree who cant move but can spawn undead saplings.>future faction are water goblins (basically murlocs) with their leader being a chieftan riding a giant crabalso the game is fully free to play on table top sim with all factions and cards available with a full working deckbuilder available on their site if anyone is interested in giving the game a go.
>>98702879>60 mm>dicelessThats literally some fr yikes from me oomfie.
>>98703523The thumbnail with the red ambiant light is enough to scream Youtuberslop at your face.
>>98703689I hadn't noticed it before but they do use red ambient light a lot. Why is that?
>>98703416Rick on his own is very different from Rick & The Boys. look at anything post warmaster. bolt action, hail carsar, antares. the man loves his dicey order systems, and the rampants are a direct successor of that.
>>98704107I thought his biggest flaw was the inability to be concise. I do like the rampant activation system though.
Where to get warmaster chaos dwarfs now that they are not available from forest dragon minis anymore
>>98704107>Rick on his own >man loves his dicey order systems >looks at copy of Space Battles next to me on the shelf >entirely playing card based no dice >looks at copy of game made not by Rick, based off games not made by Rick, entirely built around not having to roll lots of dice like the Rampant series lol lmao Stop talking out your ass. No 12 dice or 6 dice at half str is not a lot of dice.
>>98703381Nordic Weasel has a bunch of 40k model agnostic games. They tend towards arbitrated play and lighter rules more towards the rogue trader/2nd edition era with variations on how cleaned up the rules are and scale. Renegade Scout is a direct RT retroclone if you want granularity. Haven't even looked at Shoot People In Space but its supposed to be squad vas squad skirmish size. Warbands even. Squad and Rogue Hammer are platoon scale engagements, there's a fellow with purple marines here who was really into it. Laser Storm is the Epic scale one. There's probably more, guy was cranking them out for a while. Long enough people have weasel fatigue, I haven't even gotten to the 5 parsecs stuff that's RT inspired but deviated a lot and gone through 3 or 4 editions depending on how you want to count them.
>>98699705>GW miniatures on the secondary market have seen a steady price increaseI couldn't disagree more. I keep finding so many good deals on the secondary market I turned flipping those into a small but almost stable second source of income. Just yesterday I bought a brand new Nighthaunt half of the Soul Wars set for 25 EUR. Not so long ago I found a Blood Angels Tactical Squad for 30 EUR and sold it for 85 EUR the very next day. I don't even spend much time searching for those deals, I literally browse Facebook trading groups and some local trading apps during my breaks at work.
>>98703381>>98703406>you can try xenos rampant which is 40k with more of a rick priestley design philosophyThis is horse shit, XR is bad.
>>98704529Because?
I've been looking at XR. I wanted to make a regular sci-fi human army and a space bugs army, but it's not really clear to me why there is a bunch of Xenomporh stat profiles. I could mostly do the same with the usual infantry-elite-berserker etc
>>98704607They're the greater and lesser warbeasts from dragon rampant. They don't get firefight reactions, but they're a lot faster than other units.
>>98704576It's practically impossible to kill something without needing your entire force focusing on them, it falls apart at higher point limits, the rules themselves are bland and uninspired, the game is hailed as a mini agnostic gem, that's all it does well, be miniature agnostic.
>>98704627Fair points, but I think you can easily solve the lethality issue.
>>98704658The fact remains that I shouldn't need to solve a problem. That problem should have been ironed out LONG before the book went to publishing.The mini agnostic lovers out there tend to love games that aren't lethal, or that force you to make enemies flee the board. That way, they can tell "any stories they want to, with any minis they want to" and that is, imo, a weakness. Games, mini agnostic or not, should be machines to drive narratives that exist within a certain framework. if I deploy several Reduced Model Units to represent how elite they are, then they should be somewhat akin to the 11th edition Custodes that were just revealed for 40K. There should be 3 of them in a squad, they should have a high armour save and they should have enough wounds to make them hard to remove. But instead, in XR, a Reduced Models Unit is just as dangerous as a squad of 12 soldiers that are armed to the teeth. The damage works out the same, you chip away at each others health (wounds) very slowly and, if you're lucky, you can make them flee, throw down their weapons or otherwise surrender and get removed from the table.At least with OPR, loath to admit it though I may be, units are a danger to each other and can scale in survivability and lethality with the use of keywords like Tough and Deadly.I bought the XR rulebook, and I've played (I think) 8-ish games. It's a failed experiment, people here who constantly bring it up as a go-to for Warhammer refugees have seemingly not played it and just recycle other anons opinions on the matter.Sorry if this came across as a rant.
>>98704658You could for example use the 12/6 dice split from other rampants. Makes shooting a lot deadlier. I've a house rule upgrade that allows for +1 to hit for shooting and firefights as well. But in general I like the way units are worn down over time in XR. I'll have to think of a vehicle damage system to allow for quicker destruction of tanks and the like. Another idea I played with was area effect weapons, where the initial target is hit with the regular shoot value and special rules, while units within X inches are hit on a 5+.
>>98704709>The fact remains that I shouldn't need to solve a problem.>and that is, imo, a weakness.Even you admit it's a problem for you, it is not to your taste. Have you considered that others like it the way it is?Also I really don't get the mentality of being upset about something wrong when you could easily just solve the problem and continue enjoying the thing. (Well, not you, because you think the rules are bland too and want to play with bigger armies)
>>98704627>It's practically impossible to kill something without needing your entire force focusing on themThat's a good thing. High lethality means you spend all your time taking your toys off the table instead of playing with them and exacerbates first mover advantage.
>>98704709I don't mind the ranting, it's good that we disagree and argue about the merits of different game system. It's true that opr is a lot deadlier and has a bit more granularity because it was explicitly intended for 40k refugees. However, it also has it's balance validation restrictions. I think tough (6) units can only cause like 8 hits a turn at max. Correct me if I'm wrong.You can scale the survivability of units in XR too with upgrades like boarding shield, force fields, combat medic and some others. But your issue seems to be the lack of offensive upgrades, that lead to slow slugging matches?
>>98704744>Have you considered that others like it the way it is?I have, and for love nor money I cannot get along with that mentality.>>98704746>High lethality means you spend all your time taking your toys off the table instead of playing with themHigh lethality means you play more intelligently with your models and every model removed, from your side or the opponents, is a move considered and made to a logical conclusion.>>98704760> I think tough (6) units can only cause like 8 hits a turn at max.I honestly don't recall that being the case, but I could 100% be wrong.My issue isn't so much the lack of offensive upgrades, moreso that irrespective of upgrade taken (defensive or offensive) all army lists are remarkably low power.
>>98703726Red light is supposed to be relaxing so it gives a comfy/inde mood according to them. It's 'tubers Feng Shui magical thinking.
>>98704813>high lethality magically makes the people playing smarter
>>98704840NTA but don't be a disengenious troon. It's called recognizing patterns and learning process. Keeping to get away with stupid decisions don't motivate you to correct your course as much as being punished for it.
>>98704840Don't be simple on purpose anon. It's unbecoming.
>>98704881The counter to that is that Warhammer fucking sucks shit so high lethality games had better be granular man to man skirmish titles.Otherwise I'm having formations of dudes advance and not wasting time removing each Pierre or Hans as they clash in Verdunn.
>>98704840You are right. Retarded move will be a retarded move no matter if it kills you in a turn or in three.
I also thought Xenos Rampant was a bit poo but when I said so I got dogpiled.
I read Dragon Rampant and liked the customization rules for units but found the actual combat rules lacking. Oathmark has a similar problem, kingdom rules are cool but core gameplay mechanics need work. Getting my fantasy itch scratched by Frostgrave right now while I keep an eye out for one that can handle actual battlds in 28mm well.
Is this dragon rampant revisionism? Or is anon right, were you all just recommending it because you had seen others recommend it?
>>98705673Given how few games get played here, it was probably option 2. But just because I didn't like it doesn't mean it's intrinsically bad.
>>98704221what the fuck does attack dice have to do with order systems?
>>98705673>Is this dragon rampant revisionism?In a sense? xenos rampant's rules core is pretty heavily revised from its predecessor
I’m thinking of getting into bolt action. What do I need to know?
>>98705951I personally don't like it. I played a good chunk in 2E in the late 2010s with a Finnish army, sold them, and started a British army when 3E came out. 3E is a major step down, it's both less historical and less fun to play. The only good change is the listbuilding. On the recommendation of /hwg/ I tried Chain of Command, but it was also bad fir different reasons.
>>98705951Dont get wrapped up in how "gamey" it is, its basically warhammer with historical models and not a true hist game.Also automatic weapons are kindof shit, dont fall into the trap of taking a lot of them when seeing their stats, the range cut off isnt worth it. Basically just have a squad who you intend to rush around and give them more than other groups and give everyone else rifles and veteran status or MGs.>>98705982Yea the gamey part kindof ruins it, its great if you like historical models though, its just an excuse to use them.
>>98705982>>98706006Is there a good ww2 tabletop game?
>>98706006>not a true hist game.None of them are, battles aren't predetermined because "well irl the british won this battle, so you lose"
>>98706149Try Disposable Heroes, Fireball Forward, Crossfire.
>>98706196Exactly, so its not that big of an issue. If you want actual historical games you are almost exclusively going to be playing scenario based stuff and not 28mm. Bolt Action is a cool way to play a tabletop game that has the aesthetics of WW2.
>>98684859What stupid looking models.
>>98706401Lol, I'm not the anon asking, though the response may have been useful to that anon, I was just inserting my smart-ass "well akshually" because my limited experience with historical players is they like to jerk off over their realism but they always fall short of actually following the history (because that'd be no fun) making it all a rather moot point.Which is probably why Bolt Action is the name I always hear/see.
Got a giant undead worm (mostly) painted up.
>>98705462because you guys usually say it's shit and then list mostly subjective reasons
>>98705862The little red arrows and numbers link the previous parts of the conversation newfagkun.
>>98700697Pendraken is great for 10mm
Anyone got experience with scaling down opr miniatures to about 10mm ?
>>98707199huh turns out Reaper gave this thing more teeth
>>98707701yeah, the parts turn too thin to be usable. The lowest I've gotten them is 15mm and even then they are super fragile. for 10mm they need some resculpting/thickening.
>>98708530>>98708530>>98708530
>>98708534>if you know you know
