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DRAGON STATUS : HONOURED
HONOR THE DRAGON!
>>98660880HONOURED!!
>>98660880HONOR THE DRAGON(but quietly, it's 2 am for Dragon's sake).
>>98660884Ugh, fine.This is the last time I'll make this joke.
>>98659807Considering how many of the original Clan mechs are asymmetrical I call bullshit?
>>98661000
>>98661039You know I legit had it in my head that more of them were asymmetrical than they were. Probably got some unconscious bias on later art. I retract my statement.
>>98661039Note that a lot of them are built using combinations of the same arms and legs.This was also to save on compute. And to have the parts be modular and interchangeable (hello Omni technology)
Sad
>>98661075The echoes of FASA's death still ring out in the hills and valleys, haunting and forlorn.
>>98661075Monkey's paw would be for Warner or some other big studio competing with Disney to buy out all the rights to get a big scifi IP to try and capture the Star Wars audience.
>Microsoft is trying to save their business. I think you need to understand this: the Xbox business is in a very, very, very bad state. And you know what’s not going to solve it? BattleTech. What was wrong with this Jordan guy?
I wish there were laws against just sitting on an IP and just never using it. Imagine if Battletech had ended up becoming public domain.
>>98661124Many such cases
>>98661114He was retarded that is what is the short answer.Long answer Weisman really has no clue when it comes to long term business planning or sustaining a franchise. He is very good at seeing something new and starting it up but quickly abandons it to jump onto next interesting thing. When it comes to short term gain over long term financial success he'll take the former every time. You saw that with HBS that the moment it became profitable he took a quick paycheck selling it to Paradox rather than trying to nurture it.
>>98661114>What was wrong with this Jordan guy?He wanted to make money. And he did.He's a decent scifi writer, a decent game designer, and a decent businessman. With ADHD.He created a couple tabletop games, foresaw that computers were going to be a big thing with the pods, then sold to Microsoft and - here's the part you might not be aware of - Weisman went to work for them and became Creative Director of Microsoft Games. He was one of the creators of AR games.Then he invented clickytech. It wasn't a huge huge success, but it did make tens of millions of dollars before he sold it to Topps for even more.And so on and so forth until he started HBS to make the Shadowrun games among others, and then he sold it.He then founded Adventure Forge, a platform to help people who don't know how to code make games, and just recently founded a tabletop game publisher.tl;dr he starts a business, makes okay money, sells it a few years later, and then does it again. He doesn't try to find the Next Big Thing, being content just to make a few million here and there.As a businessman, he's very successful, if somewhat timid.
>>98661170He got a process down that reliably makes him millions.Why would he bother trying something he knows nothing about? That's like forcing Elon to design a car.
>>98661164>ou saw that with HBS that the moment it became profitable he took a quick paycheck selling it to Paradox rather than trying to nurture it.Which turned out to the smart, because the company is failing.
>>98660871>Hunckback without the hunch.
>>98661106>to try and capture the Star Wars audience.Ew gross. They'd introduce aliens, possibly space magic with a focus on space battles to attract the consumerist scum known as Star Wars fans.
>>98660871>>98659879>HerotitusIm new, who is he/it?
>>98661298A Fronc Reach system that's been traded several times in the past and is a hiring hall for mercs. It used to have a Colonial Marshals presence that kept crime in check. The Taurians have stripped the place of the most reputable merc outfits, so the leftover dregs squabble in the outlands with puritan zealot insurrectionists mad about the hedonists that are the planetary government.
This is a drag goon hate thread.
>>98661357Ty
What happens to 'dark' caste when they are cast out? Would it be ok to assume they form semi clan society of similar individuals?, would they care about whos clan they are coming from?
>>98660880>>98660884>>98660900>>98660901>>98660918
>>98661075>>98661114The trick is to just clone Battletech and make your own game, like that dude making a spiritual sequel to Mechwarrior 2 is doing.
>>98661539Nuking Outreach best day of my life, wob did nothing wrong
>>98661164A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Or in their case, zero birds and a raccoon with rabies.
>>98661539RIP to the martyrs of Waco: Smithson's Chinese Bandits, 51st Dark Panzer Jaegers, Tiger Sharks and the Pro-Waco Lone Wolves
>>98661566Not even the right type of Asian
>>98661566the hearts of the capellan people swell with tears of pride at the sight of such a handsome portrait of our wise and beneficent chancellor. thank you comrade.
>>98661663Same difference, they all burn when you coat them with infernos.
So fishing for ideas for a possible future grudge match. Probably be a while before can run it but just checking if anons are happy with these options or got any suggestions?Marik vs Marik 3057 fightAndurian Crisis pt1 - Marik/Magistracy vs LiaoAndurian Crisis pt2 - Marik vs Marik/MagistracyComstar vs Combine - GuM
Who won Ulric Kerensky's bloodright after he died?
>>98661792Me, I keep it in a jar on the fridge.
>>98661807that's extremely disrespectful, surathe was an ilKhan of the Clans!
>>98661876And now he lives in my cum jar,Cope, furfag.
>>98661572what's it called?
>>98661876He wasn't the replacement Mara Jade the devs and grogs lust over, so he was doomed to irrelevancy once his arc was over.
>>98661792Thirsty Ghost Bear women.
>>98662012What the fuck? Since when can AI make a recognizable Mech?
>>98661876>he was an ilKhan of the Clans!So double faggot, since he also was a Kerensky.
>>98661792Ranna?
>>98660871As a new player where do you find games where people won't throw you into the deep end, and it's a bit more interesting than people doing battle orders and rolls for 3 hours on a hex map before logging stats and calling it a day?
>>98662094
>>98662275>As a new player where do you find games where people won't throw you into the deep end1985
>>98661944As is right. Ulric was just too nice. Nasty K is cool the way Revy is cool: she's hot and competent but she's also a sadistic borderline psychopath and it's not enough to kill her enemies, she likes to hurt them, first.
>>98662275Ask for a 3025 game balanced by tonnage to learn the ropes?
>>98661944>dies in ignominy to a Name-less Jade Falcon scrub
>>98662301>AskWhere? Once I tried reddit.... it was. Well let me say that it felt a lot more modern politically than battletech...
>>98662275Look for Alpha Strike games, and using the optional Multiple Attack Rolls rule.This gets you used to the idea and loose function of stuff like movement modifiers, attack modifiers, range, criticals, and rolling multiple times to resolve an attack. But a lot of it is more standardized than variable (ex. Alpha Strike Crits are all on one chart whereas Classic's Crits are variable depending on 'Mech, TMM in Alpha Strike is a single number if the 'Mech moves in any manner while Classic has it as variable depending on movement, etc.)Additionally, Alpha Strike has the ACES system designed for it that uses cards to simulate an opponent, allowing you to play Solo or Co-Op games. Thus meaning you can practice on your own, or functionally LARP as a novice Mechwarrior being tutored by an experienced one.
>>98661114Paranoid Schizzo with ADHD.
>>98661106best we can hope for is some super rich guy gets into the franchise and pays to finally unite the IP under one banner, fires the pig and makes a good game, produces one good streaming movie, and then fucks off.
>>98661114I wonder how much it would cost to get them out of Microsoft's hands. It'll certainly be high, but it has to exist at some value.
>>98662355How much is the battletech ip worth? And what kind of effort would need to go in to scrub the shit smears off and market it back into a silver age?
>>98662356Once something is in Microsofts grasp they will never sell. Just think of all the IPs they bought over the years and have done nothing with. Chris Roberts got his ass clapped by Microsoft back in the day but then in hindsight it may have been heavily justified.
>>98661576If the writers had any balls they would have let them get jihaded. All their cool characters aged out and got killed anyway.
>>98662275Those are kind of opposite wants. The deepest deep end you can get is a full campaign with meaningful objectives and all the accounting and optional rules and someone's flying full aerospace units overhead after launching them from an airbase or dropship using the actual rules for that.The shallow end is throwing some mechs at each other to see which ones die the fastest.
>>98662309Here, take this charger. I'll pick the Awesome.
>>98662483That's fine I'll have the SB.
>>98662301>RevyPost-invasion Nasty K is Balalaika, not that nihilistic mad dog. Even pre-invasion she's not that bad. Revy couldn't run a Merc company, much less tolerate one full of retarded simps like Natasha did. >>98662323Based. Joanna would be a good match for Roberta.
>>98662565>Post-invasion Nasty K is Balalaika, not that nihilistic mad dog. Even pre-invasion she's not that bad. Revy couldn't run a Merc company, much less tolerate one full of retarded simps like Natasha did.Except she could only do it with Jaime as tardwrangler with all his goons plot armor.And Zeta were pretty much dark caste/penal batallion.
>>98662368>silver ageI'd say we're at least in a silver age right now. tabletop is getting new stuff every year and we at least still have the HBS game. the game itself is growing slowly, even if that is mostly due to other companies just committing suicide (TC) or abusing their customers (GW).but it's a long way off from penetrating the collective consciousness the way 40K has. Not that I necessarily want everything that comes along with that, but it will mean more and continued support for the game.
I find it endlessly entertaining that the weakest and arguably most hated Successor State canonically got the strongest military due to Sun-Tzu Liao.
>>98662722And then lost it to stupid shit. FedSuns back on top.
>>98662722>due to Sun-Tzu Liao.Now let's be honest. Due to George Lucas.
>Let... me.. die...
>>98662731Fuck the Davions, I will forever simp for the CC and FWL.
>>98662740They should have replaced him with someone actually interesting.
>>98661876he looks like such a fucking sluuutt in this
>>98662750Why? Mercenaries is a sandbox game, who cares if the MC isn't interesting, there's hardly a story for him to be the protagonist of anyway.
>>98662647Nasty K was fine when Joshua was fucking her into submission. It's after he dies she goes on that edgy mean bitch streak that faggots think was peak goon-maxxing.>And Zeta were pretty much dark caste/penal batallion.A Dark Caste penal battalion with a suspiciously replenishing number of 1/2 and 0/1 pilots who by all accounts should eat themselves in the first five minutes they don't have a key-jangling in front of them. Fuck I forgot how stupid 3025 Goons were.
>>98662764Because another Uncle Cordy would be entertaining.
>>98661940>what's it called?Engines of Destruction. I got in on one of the playtests and it was basically manna from heaven compared to PGIslop.>>98661124>I wish there were laws against just sitting on an IP and just never using it.Georgist IP law? I could get behind that.
>MWO>hmm yes let's make boating builds that are already some of the strongest things in the game even stronger!Genuinely what the fuck is wrong with whoever's been running the balance there?I heard it's supposed to be run by "community volunteers consisting of compfags" nowadays, in which case I'd have to say they just have shit taste? I swear even TF2 has better balance than it.
>>98662740Cryo-sleep exists in BattleTech. My headcanon is that him and the rest of the crew spend a lot of their downtime in stasis. Which, come to that, has its own drawbacks. They'd probably go crazy after a while doing nothing but killing while weeks or months pass between battles.
>>98662837>Vidya fags promote brain dead gameplayShould have seen the autistic screams when mektek added advanced radar to MW4 that helped promote gameplay styles outside of PPC+Gauss poptarting.
>>98662555You'll take a 1A1 and like it!
>>98662931Fine but I'm showing up with an 8/1 pilot and there's nothing you can do about it bitch!
>>98662938...I concede to your superior mechfu skills and must commit sudoku.
>>98662323That's battletech, baby.
>>98662938Technically you could take a 0/0 pilot since it's balance by tonnage.
>>98662977Technically, if we're doing the ancestral balance by tonnage, we could also do the ancestral negative scores.
>>98662795>A Dark Caste penal battalion with a suspiciously replenishing number of 1/2 and 0/1 pilotsAll piloting Assaults, too
>>98662750>>98662807This. Spectre from MW4 Mercs had more charm and interest going for him and he was almost nothing, but you could tell something was at least going on in there.
>>98662837I don't understand why their redesigns get praised when they're straight dogshit. They ruined the signature look of a ton of iconic mechs like the battlemaster and black knight and it's probably not a coincidence that the tabletop designs are becoming boxier and uglier to match.
>>98663059No one can look at this and claim their designs are touched by God
>>98663079PGI's designs went so far in being "anti-Gundam" to the point that they defeat the point of being bipedal with how shit of an articulation they look like they have.>Shit ab-crunch>Shit/non-existent shoulder swivel>Elbows/Knees that doesn't look like they could even be double jointed>Very wide upper torso that just looks badly unbalanced
>>98663097Totally forgot to also include:>No fucking necks on the "heads"Gundam unironically also has more "realistic" mechs just from having the cockpit be fully enclosed usually on top of being on something more like the torso with vision being from cameras around the body.
>What if we made the Atlas but good?
>>98663109Eastern mechs usually are more realistic than western mech, that's pretty common
>>98663124Don't tell Sean!
You don't hate the press enough. You need to hate them at least five times more. Love me blackjack
>>98663124>goodListen, I love my Albatross, I literally have one on the field right this very second and it's about to eat some serious danger close bombing (imminently rip Spider). But I would never call it good.
>>98663262He's saying it's a better fat Orion than the fat Orion that is the Atlas. And, as a fat Orion, he's not wrong...
>>98663272>Fat OrionIsn't that the Sunder though?
>>98662722>due to Sun-Tzu Liao.That's a funny way of spelling "Loren Coleman".
>>98663275Sunder is an omni, so that would make it a Fat Perseus.
>>98663079>That picWhere is its drill that will pierce the heavens?
>>98660880>>98660884>>98660900NOT SO FAST
>>98663124Its a neat design.
>>98663262I mean, it is one of the best cavalry heavies around...
>>98663079I'd say it's a mixed bag. There are lots of mechs with badly drawn, goofy art and they hit the nail with fixing some of them but a lot of already great looking mechs got huge downgrades.
>>98663336The Dragon does not fear you, Fedrat trash
>>98663382Now hold on here, the goofy mechs are the appeal of battletech, you don't go trying to 'fix' that
>be me>good lyran boy>one problem >love FWL mechs and variants >be also from Florida>Florida system in setting is close to the FWL and is known to favor energy only load outs that the FWL likes as well>This is how I cope
>>98663570It could be much worse. The planet named after my city is in fedcom space. I don't even want to live here anymore.
How big are your mechs, /btg/?
>>98663606Some levels printed on that map and it would be perfect.I got mechs in all sizes.
>>98663570>Luv me Steiner since MW4M cos more interesting mission path, fug the politics of the nobs, Fafnir > Templar>find me home town is stuck on a FWL planet>it's occasionally trashed in fighting with the LC though which is good enough, place is a shithole and deserves getting a good kicking>Wolf Empire comes along, Steiner's now bankrupt, me home shithole's up Wolf arse so far team blue ain't getting it...>Fuck itCome on FWL score some fackin military victories
>>98663605Every location possibly linked from a place I'm from IRL is in the FedSuns. This is both the city I live in, the state I live in, and the city I was born in.>>98663733Wolf Empire is just LyrCom 2.0It's even ruled by a Steiner.
>>98663124The BNC-3S? The AS7-RS?
I can understand why they made the German faction use massive, impractical vehicles like the Demolisher II, but not why they made them incompetent. Germans aren't usually known for incompetence of all things.
>>98663047You can tell that he's a bit of a bastard.
It turns out making a horse is hard, but I'm getting there
>>98663814At the time, the Demolisher was a perfectly competent and successful idea. Mechs just outgrew it eventually, but for a moment things like Demolisher and Manticore hunted primitive mechs for sport and had them beat on sheer numbers produced.
>>98663855>the Demolisher was a perfectly competent and successful ideaIt really isn't, even the concept of it is just a shitty one. A heavy tank you put extra resources into so that when it inevitably gets a TAC or mobility crit you can flush even more money down the toilet? Tanks are meant to be cheap and disposable.
>>98663733Marik is only good at kicking its own ass.
>>98663862As long as the dead tank is worth less than the mech it died coring with dual AC 20s, it's a win in value.
>>98663869Personally, I'm just not a fan of short ranged, slow vehicles. They have their place, but I like something that can reach to large laser range at least if it's slower than 6/9.
>>98663869The issue with the Demolisher is that there really is no reason to put heavy armor on a tank. Tanks can't hold up to damage, even a light mech can take it out with a single shot so it's way better to just go with lots of light or medium tanks, and if you absolutely NEED the big guns, go with a tank destroyer.
>>98663814When you look at the history of the Lyrans, you get a sense of a slowly rotting system. The Lyrans have big industry, big hardware, big armies, the LCAF were a military who's rank and file were filled with professionals who could smash most things down with sheer force and tight logistics.It's only as Lyrans start getting a little too comfortable with their economic might that you start to see the issues that would eventually culminate into how infamously common social generals were, the military being turned into more of a frat for nepobabies than actual patriots. I'd go as far as to say the Dracs considered the Lyrans a much more formidable rival than the Feds before the LCAF degraded and the AFFS were reformed under Melissa Davion.
The 3025 Manticore is still a near perfect tank.
>>98663994>Heavy tank>Fusion engineGod no the Manticore sucks in its role.
>>98663862>when it inevitably gets a TAC or mobility critCategory: rules that didn't exist when the Demolisher was designed.
>>98664056But the fundamental forces of combat those mechanics still represent in lore still existed
>>98663999how can somebody be so wrong?
>>98664094If you want a fusion engine and heavy armor, put it on a mech, they're wasted on a tank.
Meanwhile I'm literally from somerset. Fuck your batchall!
>>98663817I like that. He's running a mercenary company, and even though it's easy as fuck to end up on the pretty noble side of the reputation line, he should be because you're still doing some dodgy shit. Speaking of, the amount of dodgy shit you do in Mercs 5, Mason if they even had a personality he would have to be an absolute cunt doing it for the love of the game at some point because it just gets to the point of years of doing whatever and he's still out there dropping on to places and blowing up some poor shit's food and water stores for the hell of it, and absolutely callously fighting in urban locations all the time. Changes sides constantly too due to lack of long term contracts outside of the expansions, that guy in the Rasalhague was right to hate Mason and bang on about how you could be heroes there now but next fucking week be dropping on their asses to murder their citizens and not giving a single fuck.
>>98663999I refuse to allow this Manticore slander! Its a Griffin on treads! The only thing I will accept is that the 3055 "Upgrade" is actually a complete downgrade.
>>98664104>Its a Griffin on treads!...so it's a worse Griffin.
>>98663814>Germans aren't usually known for incompetenceThen why did they lose the only 2 wars in the 20th century that mattered, and why have they allowed their country to be overrun and conquered by foreign invaders?
>>98664056>rules that didn't exist when the Demolisher was designed.not a valid excuse>>98664099>how you could be heroes there now but next fucking week be dropping on their asses to murder their citizens and not giving a single fuck.if they didn't want that to happen, then they should pay more money to hire my mercs first. if they didn't, then they deserve to die.
>>98663863The only ones who are allowed to kick Marik's ass are other Mariks. Nobody else is allowed unless they have Wolf level writers fiat, and even that's shaky
>>98663345This depiction dose look good.
>>98664112Well its a Griffin for poor people. It is a lot cheaper has slightly better armor and has some close range weapons going for it.
>>98663994I'd rather have an ICE Tokugawa for a 4/6 or a Myrmidon if I want a PPC cavalry tank.
>>98664197You don't need armor or a fusion engine on a tank, it's a waste of money.
>>98664216Heavy Weapons Carrier (PPC) I choose you!
>>98664216The Myrmidon is the only competition for "perfect tank" I consider, personally. And it's GOOD competition, those things earn their keep.
>>98664097Fusion engines are not rare for most of the setting.
B4K-1 Back
>>98664258But they are expensive.
>>98664253Myrmidons are excellent and they manage it with just introtech.
>>98664253>Medium tankGood start, not perfect but decent->Fusion engineIt's shit
>>98664104I literally just finished painting my 4 manticore (xl) 's.I did a matter green, then angular sandy brown stripe/angled lines like polygonals almost, but not really, and then a peadot/giraffe light yellow. Looks kinda neat. Will take pic5ures once I am home from doing the laundry.
>>98664197The srm6 and medium laser are nice to have.Also, remember that the lrm launcher has its own turret with 120' coverage so it can be used to IF on a separate target to the turret PPC on a main target.A squadron of manticores can put four ppc into one mech/vee and four lrm10's IF'd onto a target someone's spotted for them, say, a locust. Etc.Reminder, this is where vees shine. Combined arms.Let's say last turn you cooked your marauder hot by using all its weapons, well this turn it wants to cool off, so you run it to a flank and spot the enemy awesome it was duelling. Now in the fire phase your four manticores can add four ppcs and four lrm10's onto the awesome that the marauder can't.Same for having lrm carriers. Those things are just plain mean when you keep them in the ass, and let your lighter mechs spot for them, or heavier stuff spot whilst they're running hot.
>>98664354>Reminder, this is where vees shine. Combined arms.Vees shine by being cheap, they're actually kinda shitty at combined arms compared to mechs because they can't mount as many weapons.
>>98664197Bold opinion here. I do not care for the Griffin. The 1N has so many minor flaws that stack up>Minimum range>All weapons on one side and only two weapons so losing right torso essentially renders the mech useless>Has 3 heat build up if it jumps and fires PPC>Absolute maximum 20 damage in a turn>Has a 120 degree blind spot on its left and rear sideIt's just really inflexible while at the same time being a 55 ton medium that can only put out 20 points of damage at best and probably far less with the huge minimum range of LRMsBy comparison the shittiest Wolverine variant has a shorter range but>No minimum range>Weapons in three entirely different locations so hard to cripple it without outright killing it>Nearly heat neutral even if firing every weapon and jumping 5>Extended torso twist so no blind spotIt has generally shorter ranged weapons which is fine for a non-trooper jump capable medium which should have no problem closing to the enemy and unlike the Griffin it's not fucked if a single wasp decides to jump behind it and start kicking its legs since it can just turn and fire an SRM 6 and medium laser at it.
>>98661249I like Star Wars(Pre-Disney). I don't want Battletech to be Star Wars. I want Battletech to be Battletech and Star Wars to be Star Wars. Hell, Star Wars isn't even Star Wars anymore.
>>98661106>>98664472If you wanted to sell Battletech(I don't) to corpos for a show/movie deal, the easiest way to spin it is Game of Thrones meets Pacific Rim in space.
>>98664486That's a pretty accurate description tbf
>>98664486>Wait how old is she when Hanse marries her?>Yeah I'd maybe age her up a year or two>I'm seeing a lot of 80s style yellow peril written here>The Dracs and Cappies could use modernizing yeah>And what exactly is the FWL's thing?>They exist
>>98664468That's not bold, it's just accurate. The Griffin is a generally shitty medium, and the people who think its good are just shitty people to match.
>>98664511>Yeah I'd maybe age her up a year or twoAging her the wrong way desu
>>98664523C4y more, loser. Fuck yes, terrain.
>>98664523The ideal tank should be:>Fast>Lightly armored>Cheap>Decently large gun for its tonnageEssentially, tanks in battletech are something you throw en masse at the enemy, knowing they'll die, but not caring because they're cheap and disposable, and giving them enough firepower that the enemy can't just ignore them
>>98664534Ewwww>lightly armouredYuck.Vedette (armour) is my muthafucken boi.Hardened armour so it effectively has x2 armour,Still 5/8UAC10. BRRRRRRRT. Doof doof doof cannon.
>>98663841Every time I see this mech, I think of this old zoid I had as a kid.
>>98664531...said the shitty person.
>>98664541Yes, convees in general have no reason to have heavy armor, that is what mechs are for.
>>98663994It is probably one of the best buys for its BV in 3025.>>98664104It has a set of close range weapons. It is already better than a griffin.The good upgrades are the LBX/10 for obvious reasons and the HPPC with targeting computer. If I can't tale those the old standard version will do.
>>98664486"Game of thrones with giant robots" was how /tg/ explained battletech to people from roughly 2013-2018 when that phrase gained traction elsewhere
>>98664549That's sarath, my guy
>>98664511Just tell them she's a combatant who can canonically twist her non-infantry husband into a pretzel.
>>98664511>>And what exactly is the FWL's thing?They're just Awesome.
>>98664641
MANTICORE MURDER MOBILES.
>>98663233>Love me blackjackBlackjack is Love, Blackjack is LIFE!>>98663332>Where is its drill that will pierce the heavens?ROW ROW, FIGHT DA POWAR!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xYekUcLRs4
>>98664716BJ C is evil.Unfortunately it is 'goons exclusive.>oh no, I have to go murder me a bunch of fucking gooders to get one. Nooooo. How terrible... oh no. How awful.2clpl, 2cssrm4. Fucking NOICE.
Get back in the concentra- I mean re-education camp fedrat scum, xin sheng! Glory to the Celestial Wisdom.
>>98664511>Wait how old is she when Hanse marries her?she was like 12 when the marriage alliance got serious by the way, but that's not as funny
>>98664585The IWM model of looks even zoidier in person.
>>98664549I wanted to like Zoids, but when I tried getting one as a kid the box was missing a bunch of parts and on top of that, the store were being assholes when my dad tried to return it. Kinda soured me on the whole thing.
>>98664262Broke: curst imageWoke: cur-sed imageBespoke: curstimmidge
>>98664808You should have been like me and gotten them on clearance with all the parts. Did the same with the old Battletech toys. Then, the little retaining lever on Adam's Axeman ejection broke and I've had the fucking thing busted for 25+ years. Still got my big Brachiosaurus fucker zoid from back in the day. Man, having the old zoids actually walk and move was so fucking cool.Man, I miss getting all the seasonal legos and power ranger megazords on clearance too. $23 for the Ultimate Lego X-wing after Christmas. I used to live for gift cards to use after a major holiday as a kid. Now, I buy lots of battletech on ebay where I can tell a bro who loved the franchise died, and it's just so much sadder.
>>98663814I mean, however you might feel about the political end of things, you got to admit there's been a lot of infighting, classism, cults of personality, reckless spending and other issues plaguing the German military establishment for a good chunk of European history.
>>98663412What the heck is going on in this illustration?>old school sallet Victor>MWO Panther>Modern Quickdraw body with old bullet head
>>98664677Sex on tracks
>>98663124This post made me want to try one out so I used a 5W one and while it got pretty beat up during the battle, I *sorta* brutalized the mechs it faced. It would be far better suited if it ditched the IS ERPPC and capacitor and just added another large VSP. Im going to continue trying out this stupid thing though
>>98664887Such is the magic of Alex. He knows what's what. He made the shitty MWO Battlemaster AND the proper modern CGL one with a good bubble cockpit..
>>98664910>VSP's>GoodI can tell you like extreme close combat.
>>98664915Anon I literally do not get reliable hits on target unless I'm in close range. Idk if I need to just be buying down my pilot's skills more or if I should be playing more patiently but things literally just do not happen for me until I'm within knife fighting range. You'll never guess my opinion on jump jets as a result
>>98664929Clanners would adore you
>>98664929>Anon I literally do not get reliable hits on target unless I'm in close range>You'll never guess my opinion on jump jets as a resultI suspect your cause and effect sense is what we would call flawed.
>>98664534You're being incredibly circular. You're saying that vees are best as expendable, then you're saying that the best vee is expendable. You're intentionally ignoring things like...the Manticore, which are almost as good as a heavy Mech at most roles.
>>98665015Except you know, not dying or being crippled.
>>98665029>vehicles are too fragile to use!>source: trust me, bro
Speaking of vehicles, does anyone else use BMR (and sometimes MaxTech) instead of the newer crap?
>>98665049>he's never heard of a TAC or mobility crit
>>98665064>the Boogeyman roll makes me quail in fearYou sound like a Lyran
>>98665150The 'bogeyman' roll statistically is about 20% of rolls and it's bad enough that you need a 2 to 1 numbers advantage just for convees of the same tonnage to win against mechs.
>>98663814>Germans aren't usually known for incompetence of all things.Someone has never looked in on the absolute disaster that is post-reunification German Military Procurement.Similarly, for most engineers, German Engineering doesn't really have as much regard as the public has for it and leans a bit more towards "this is overcomplicated for no reason"
>>98665161To be fair, 2:1 is positively amazing compared to what can go on in the video games.
>>98665202On the other hand, the rolls are with a regular 4/5 pilot in mind, whereas in the games you're basically meant to be an absurdly skilled Mechwarrior in-universe.
So Fadre Singh is the only Clanner who defected from the Dragoons? I was hoping there were more
>>98665589Clanners in general don't really defect. Singh was very much an exception.
>>98663814>>98665189>Someone has never looked in on the absolute disaster that is post-reunification German Military Procurement.Just stick with all of their mid-war WW2 fighter upgrade programs completely floundering, which saved the allied strategic bombing program.As for the Social Generals - the idea behind them was solid. The problem was the militarization of the ruling class (which pushed people into attending military academies on grounds of social obligations) and that many folks who got the Social General title also outrank most field officers. The Lyran system would work a lot better if they pushed for Cappie levels of centralization of military command.
>>98663079Shamefuru Disprayu
Vengeful, Vicious VeddettesMine pile of shame grows a bit smaller
>>98662866>Vidya fagsMore like unironic 40-50 year old retards.Everytime some jackass starts with an open mic in voice chat on MWO it's usually always some wheezing fat boomer.If it's tryhards/score farmers then it's also usually whining at their own team for not taking the sniper meatshield positions on the maps.
>>98665652>faggot Fedrats have to steal from the Combine to have decent 'mechsPathetic
>>98665820That is, if I recall correctly, the Sun Zhang Academy Cadre color scheme.
>>98665838Colors, yes; insignia, no.
>>98664253Didn't know this tank, thx for pointing it out. Gonna be great for my WoB.
>>98664279Not really.
>>98665903Check out the Regulator, too, if you've never heard of it.
>>98665202About that, I played a game recently in mw5 where my Jenner pillot I sent to kill srm carrier got ambushed by 2 Manticores. He wasnt fresh to start but they managed to basicly cripple it.I know its just light mech and bot pilot but when I run in to a base with more than couple of them hiding only their bot piloting save my ass. If the were better ilots I dont think my medium/light lance could survive facing 2-3 mechs and tank/turret support.
>>98665669>>98664677Cool tanks. Wish cgl would sell normal boxes of 4 insted that frankenbox with 2 of the kind.
>>98665928Thx, looks good but bit too pricey.I have some pegasus/condors/maxims in hovercraft stable.
>>98665947Manticore tanks are 60 tons each with one of the more common SRM Carriers also being 60.The Jenner you mention is 35 tons so was facing things each individually about twice as big, and three of them at once while already damaged.That's still a petty far cry from a mere 2:1 of the same tonnage.
>>98665968He killed srm carrier no problem. Than manticores rolled up.Even going in my centurion is no joke against them.
>>98665976Engage them at 10+ hexes, they are not a problem
The first Mechcommander gave tanks a pretty fair shake. They could fuck you up something serious.
>>98663814>Germans aren't usually known for incompetence of all things.>Austria during WW1>Prussian military before and for a century after Frederick the Great>Austrian military after the War of Spanish Succession>Toothless Weimar Germany>Toothless modern GermanyEven during WW1 Germany had several very incompetent generals like Moltke the Younger and Falkenheyn (spelling probably wrong). I guess if you wanted to represent Lyrans as more iconically German have them go through periods of successful commanders followed by a slide towards mediocrity before conflict forces them to rely more on competent generals. Eg.>First succession war Lyran generals are dogshit retards>By the end if the war competent generals start to gain more command and influence and can take advantage of industrial base>Second succession war Lyran generals are dogshit>Then they get goodJust cycles of competence and complacency which honestly are common in most militaries. You can see similar cycles in France, Britain, Russia, and even America.
>>98663814It's contextual, because it's a game made by Americans.They missed most of the mechanised war waged by the Germans, and really only got in at the end when Germany was exhausted, 80% of the Wehrmacht was on the Eastern Front, and Hitler was increasingly micro-managing his generals to disaster.So in their experience, Germans fought with heavy vehicles, mostly defensively, and made mad decisions (because otherwise how else would the Allies have won?).
>>98664388Vees carry more ballistics and missiles than mechs because they don't need heat sinks for them.
>>98664771Hanse was always kind of a bastard, IIRC. At least when he was doing politik and you had really cheesed him off. >smashes a pesticide tanker into your telecommunications office>"Operation Scorpion that, faggot."Probably didn't give a shit about her teen bod; it was all just to see Maximillian have an aneurism trying to gather up all the wedding plates to search for intelligence leaks.
>>98666477They do need heat sinks, in fact they have to be heat neutral by the rules. They mostly benefit more from ballistics as space is less of a concern than for mechs. It's why you can easily put heavy ferro-fibrous armor onto most tanks, but with mechs you'll be left with next to no space left for weapons.
How many posters ITT have actually used vees on tabletop using TW rules?
>>98666498>>98666477>They do need heat sinks, in fact they have to be heat neutral by the rules.ICE engines have a special clause in that they don't generate heat for ballistic or missile weapons - you still need sinks for energy weapons on them though. My understanding is that this doesn't carry forward to fusion Vees.
>>98666498Secondary. Vees don't need heat sinks for ballistics and missiles. They must be great neutral for energy weapons. Have you ever opened up TechManual or used SSW or MML?
>>98666501I did it four or five times, including one game where I took two lances of tanks and a company of infantry against a lance of mechs. I won with heavy losses.
>>98666484Hanse actually played the political game to win instead of moralizing like his son. He was a proper Successor Lord. You can tell this even just with the 4th War when it was like "I can attack with all my might the country that killed my first love and paraded my brother's corpse through the streets in the biggest celebration of this century...or I can take the biggest landgrab since the 1st Succession War from the dude that tried to replace me with a body double. Let's do the second thing, but let's make it fun.">>98666501Most of us that aren't newfags as it's the standard way to play vehicles and has been since forever. All this abstraction and support stuff is what people have less experience with.>>98666508It's tanks as a chassis type that don't pay ballistic or missile heat regardless of engine. You build a Dieselback and you will still generate heat from your autocannons.
>>98666508ICE vehicles need power amplifiers for energy weapons and heat sinks. Fusion engines have 10 single HS, but power amps aren't needed. Ballistics and missiles don't need heat sinks, even with fusion. Vees cannot use double heat sinks, ever.
>>98666517>>98666519I meant it was a rule for vees specifically but forgot to include that, woops. I didn't actually know fusion vees didn't need them either though, that's a neat quirk.
>>98666501A few times. They can be fun but boy are they crit magnets. Had a Spider once one shot a Behemoth with a kick to the front that killed the crew instantly. Absolutely was insane that the dice came together to allow that especially since I managed to miss every single shot leading up to that point against said Spider.
>>98666544Units in Battletech are pretty much a rock-paper-scissors arrangement.Tanks are cheap mobile guns.Field Guns are the cheapest guns.Infantry are living landmines and spotters.BA are slightly more mobile more powerful infantry, but there are fewer of them.Protomechs are BA with mech movement profiles.ASF's are flying mechs who can wreck at a single nick, but can bomb the fuck out of everyone.Artillery is God Almighty until you drop into the middle of their formation.Mechs are the most resistant to crits and can squash any of them with the right loadout, but neglect your infernos and AOE weapons at your own peril. This is a nice hard counter to pure mech Turrettech. The Gausswall is better Gausswalled by Alacorns or Field Guns.
How do you add custom mechwarrior portraits in MegaMek?
>>98666601MekHQ-0.51.0\MekHQ-0.51.00\data\images\portraitsBest to also make a folder for them in that directory. Observe.
You are a Mechwarrior Knight of the Dragon. How best girl should your arranged marriage be?
>>98666662As good as you want her to be, it is a fantasy after all.
>>98666687So, tell me about yours.
>>98666705>Asking an anon to tell you about his fantasies, his deep dark fantasiesYou got 300 C-bills?
>>98666720>1 Cbill in 3025 is worth $15 todayGod damn, man. I could hire a professional at those rates.
>>98666659>BlakistGFbased and thank you
>>98666705>Take a cute clan mech warrior as bondswoman and corrupt her to my inner sphere ways and penis and having lots of freeborn children which her past self would have found contemptible>Haughty and tsundere until she falls for me and becomes doting and matronly
>>98666705>not realizing your family sent you off to be a Mechwarrior specifically because there were no suitable marriage prospects for you>not deciding to marry your loyal mechtech who always ensures your machine is in top shape so that you come back okay and gets upset when you take lots of damage because she knows just how close to death you were
>>98666148I was talking about mw5 perspective.
>>98666871Something tells me you are shit mechwarrior and you would die shot in the back or stabbed at night.
>>98666947As opposed to the "oh I want a strong elemental mommy to pull me out of my cockpit and make me her bondsman" as though anyone would want a mech warrior defeated by elementals as a bondsman
I'd like everyone to know that I slept on it and I still hate wolf's dragoons.
>>98666954No that sounds gay too. It should be "I caught myself an elemental tomboy and Ill make her succumb to my might/charm/humour"Mommy shit reeks of unresolved house/personal issues.
>>98666989>I want exactly what you want I just want my waifu to be manlierUnironically gay
>>98666960Im reading Wolf Pack right now and so far they are ok.My biggest question is why did they choose to betray clans? Unless it was cargoship worth of prime Canopus catgirls I see no fucking point in supporting Houseoids over clans.
>>98667004Nah you are just stupid. No big deal.
>>98667013>God I wish I had a woman who was taller and stronger than me with shoulders as wide as I am tall
>>98667007well they betrayed the clans before the Blakists gave Canopus the catgirl tech, so it must have been something else
>>98667007Colonel Wolf was exposed to too much Kuritan honor and realized spheroids could be alright; most of the Clanner bluster about their warrior class is just hot air and he got to see how true that was before anyone else. He also got married and had kids (although they got killed off so they could be replaced with a girl clone of him, for whatever reason) so I could imagine him and the others just not really agreeing with Clanner shenanigans anymore by the time of the invasion.
>>98667162didn't only one of his kids die?
>>98667007Being a Clanner fucking sucks, dude. Especially if you're not Bloodnamed, or if you're a Freebirth, or you just fall afoul of their gay petty locker-room/bedroom politics. You own nothing, including your own person. And that's if you're Warrior caste. If you're one of the others, it's even faker and gayer.
The more you try to read into the lore the less sense it makes. They just betrayed the clans because they're super special good guys who always do the right thing because they're smarter and better than everyone else.
>>98667223This.Nicholas Kerensky basically ripped off the Capellan society but made it 10 times more despotic and gay
>>98665652>>98665820>>98665838Those are 5th MAC ‘mechs, now in DCMS service and sending back Bears fucks in bodybags to Alshain
>>98666601what faction is the Zeon of BattleTech?
>>98667203One son is killed by traitor elements in the 'goons while trying to cut his teeth as commander, the other goes full Clanaboo and is killed by Wolf's girl clone at the end of the book while the 'goons are undergoing their own little civil war.
>>98667242>Nicholas Kerensky basically ripped off the Capellan societyHe straight up kept a copy of the Little Red Book and studied Stalin's political writings. Dude was just a commie.
>>98667242>>98667823What else do you expect from a mentally ill narcissist who grew up at the knee of a cult-like pseudo-messiah?
>>98667790The Clanners, inasmuch as Kerensky is BattleTech's equivalent of Zeon Deikun. Both are respected as sagely visionaries by most people, regardless of their faction but in the end all either of them ever amounted to was enough good intentions to pave a hundred lane expressway to Hell, with off ramps in Tartarus, Michtlan and all nine Buddhist underworlds.
>>98667242True, it's pretty firmly established that most of Clan society is basically based on Capellan stuff with obvious parallels to Capellan society with the castes, a hyper-focus on the Mechwarrior like the Capellan Lorix Creed, a focus on elite rule like the Capellan Sarna Mandate, a pan-human doctrine of "unity" like the Capellan Korvin Doctrine, etc. The command structure purpose is the same. The political structure purpose is the same. Even the very expectations of the various groups is the same, to advance the will of the state (the clan). Almost shamelessly so. I suppose it's telling that a plurality (if not majority) of the early khans and saKhans were of Capellan origin. Nicholas was probably influenced by the collective society and saw it as something he wanted in his clans. Plus who knows, maybe early insurgents being Capellans triggered a form of Stockholm syndrome in his mind; he saw his father's Star League-in-Exile undone by Capellans and sought to so blatantly emulate them.
>>98667812What about the others?
>>98667854I thought the Jovians from Crossbone are closer to the Clanners than Zeon are.
>>98667897I admit that I thought he only had two. Maybe it was just two he was considering for taking the mantle. What others were there?
>>98667869The time to eject is now
>>98667970His son Mackenzie is the one that died due to traitors, but the one that died in the civil war is Jaime's grandson.He had three daughters and another son that apparently never died.
>>98668002two of his daughters died during the Marik Civil Warnot sure about the other two kids
>>98667924nta but I feel that Amaris Empire is Zeon and Clans are Jovian.Amaris even had a lil remnant faction in that one novel Star Lord.
>>98667790None. Nobody in BT believes that living in extremely inhospitable environments will exalt humanity and none believes that space is supposed to be more than a temporary place you pass through.
>>98667242>>98667869Honestly, this is why I love Clan Wolverine; the fact that they got purged for not being as retarded as everyone else and are still living rent-free in the heads of the other clans 300+ years later is a valuable insight when trying to understand clan sociology.
>>98667656>Need to hire the MAC to lose against the Bears a third time
What's the best way to handle edge highlighting on minis with a camo pattern? And do I want to hit every panel and greeble, or just the major ones and save the small stuff for shading/panel lining with oils?
>>98667656>>98668147Why do the Dracs always get raped by the Bears?
>>98668224I think the real question here is how did the Nova Cats take so much losses.Of the Drac losses, the three Alshain regiments were lost when they kickstarted the whole war by jumping into the Alshain system without support and predictably got annihilated because it's one of the most heavily defended systems in CGB space, with multiple WarShips in-system and elite galaxies on the ground. The other losses is one F-tier regiment (Pesht, the worst equipped of the Drac military districts), two other district regulars regiments, and one more noteworthy regiment. Which is not unreasonable amount of losses going against elite Clan galaxies (at the start of the Clan invasion, the Clan clusters were regularly wiping out entire RCTs). But the Cats are themselves Clanners, with equipment and training that should match the Bears. Granted, most of the losses are garrison clusters, so 2nd line mechs with worse pilots, but that's still Clantech mechs with Clan pilots. You wouldn't expect them to be slaughtered wholesale while seemingly inflicting no losses on the enemy.
>>98668392I think the Bears abandoned zellbrigen and just jumped garrison clusters with whole frontline galaxies
>>98664929What is your opinion on hatchets?
>>98668224>Rasalhague lost>Rasalhague Regulars become ronin/Alshain Regulars>Alshain Lost>Alshain Regulars become Alshain Avengers>Alshain Avengers lost in Dominion WarThese guys never caught a break did they? You think there was a mechwarrior who served in the unit and lived through the whole thing?
>>98666989You want to date a man you faggot
>>98668224Mommy Aletha took out her belt.
>>98668540based
>>98668441Extremely based and extremely satisfying. I'm glad kicking got nerfed so that hatchets are even gooder now. Speaking of hatchets though, I absolutely love the Hatchetman but man do I struggle to get them to work for me. The Nightsky is perfect, beautiful mech, even its stock variant which I use the most even into the ilclan era. The poor Hatchetman though, I just can't get them to work well for me. The most I've gotten it to work is the 5D variant in urban environments where its UAC10 and targeting computer can do some work. I'm about to do a game with the 8S in hopes I can get some worth out of it.
>>98668634Hatchetman unironically would be better without the hatchet and if you just treated it as a Lyran Panther. Its not a good melee mech.
>>98668634>>98668724what about a Charger with a hatchet?
>>986688533Kr can work.
>>98668724I was thinking about how to fix the Hatchetman last night and thought about upping it to 50 tons, then it hit me that it would just be a Nightsky with extra steps at that point. I think a FWL style Hatchetman could be good though. Lighter laser based weapons so it can focus more on speed and armor. Armor being the biggest pitfall of the Hatchetman. It's a fine mech for urban combat but it struggles out in the open. I just want it to be good because I love it's design and name so much
>>98667007>My biggest question is why did they choose to betray clans?They were literally following orders. Kerlin Ward told them to betray the Clans.
>>98668724I like the one they made up for the HBS game where they replaced the autocannon with machine guns and SRMs.
>>98668877How dare you suggest Kerlin Ward ordered their treason! Have you any proof those orders were given?"Such lies are unconscionable in this hallowed body!
>>98668724No one needs a short range 50 ton 4/6.
>>98668875Personally, I think the Hatchetman should've been one of the IS mechs to get an Omni version in the late Clan Invasion era like the Firestarter, Centurion and BJ.
>>98668853Charger needs a lance.
>>98668853The charger is for throwing hands, it has barrel fist for a reason
>>98668919I would be onboard with this if and only if it had a fixed hatchet. Maybe TSM as well to let it try to do the melee job.
>>98668512Nothing wrong with that. Tuberats pound man ass all the time so if you've ever painted a clan mech you're gay.
>2026>not being into mascgirls and femboys exclusivelyWhy even play the mascgirls and femboys tabletop game?
>>98669110Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>98669115You'll learn soon enough
>>98668853I like the KMZ, and for assault weight mechs I like the Charger as a melee mech, with post-helm tech you can get enough armor so it can sprint/jump up to the enemy and hack them open.
>>98669049I wish more omnimechs had fixed equipment, but if any weapon should be a pod it should be a hatchet a mech could just grab, I guess if it's like the nightsky's hatchet it would make sense.
>>98669253I agree that pod mounted hatchets make sense in general, but for the hatchet man, it should be fixed to retain its identity.
That one fucking axman... that has no ax...
>>98669311Technically there's two?
>>98669311>>98669322What if Axman... with TWO axes?
>>98669365What if it had a giant paddle instead?
>>98668392Bit of column A >>98668392 and a bit of column B in that the writer(s) were guzzling the Bears like it was going out of style. Not only were the Bears an even bigger favorite at the time, based on the devs/writers interpretations of the fanbase, very few people liked the Nova Cats and ergo would not miss them if they were harmed. As a result, they made for perfect targets to job for the Bears and give them easy kill tallies.
>>98669385Second was supposed to be >>98668435I'll see myself out.
>>98666477Vees carry fewer weapons than mechs because they only have one turret usually, turrets are very heavy, which leaves them with one place to put their guns on, while mechs have their torso, both arms, and their shoulder, all of which can have weapons, and the arms and feet themselves are also weapons.
What even was the nova cats deal? Who were they, why were the only morally correct clan that took up arms alongside the inner sphere, and what are the spirit cats?
>>98669452Nova cats were the clans whose gimmick was having stronger nostalgia for the Star League than everyone else. They switched sides when the Spheroids named their anti clan alliance the Second Star League. They settled in Kuritan space and got genocided due to a Kuritan power struggle. The Spirit Cats are their few successors.
>>98669446>vehicles never carry weapons in their front or side facings
>>98669464Also they had a gimmick of erratic decision making.
>>98669471Hetzer is dumb and sponson weapons are for fags
>>98669474Too many clans have that for it to be one clan's gimmick.
>>98669474And now Goliath Scorpions inherited that gimmick
>>98669485But they didn't.They use drugs only to find some lost relics.
>>98669480>hetzer is dumbTrue, but Saladin is awesome.
>>98669487>my erratic decisions only happen when I'm not high
>>98669482Just the Cats, Scorps, and to a lesser extent Coyotes. 3/20 isn't too bad.
>>98669490But consider the SM1
>>98669516Isn't the SM1 literally just the Saladin, but Clantech?
>>98669471Still way fewer options.
>>98669498Pretty much. Seekers aren't ruling body of the Clan, Khans aren't exclusively elected from their ranks.
>>98669526Yes, and built by LAW to boot
Where do you guys source bits? A buddy of mine is giving me an Urbanmech R27 and I want to convert it to the Arrow IV variant. I'm having a hell of a time finding a laser like the left arm of picrel to do it
>>98669780forgot pic lmao
>>98669780>bits>BattletechSource is Catalyst Game Labs store and a sharp knife.
>>98668482It's a more interesting story than that, and it all has to do with the Red Duke.>Hmm, Teddy seems more modern in combat than his father. Let's see what victories he can give us. Might be good to marry him to a hog and have him replace his father sooner rather than later.>Oh, shit. Comstar deal to break off most of Rasalhague and kill the Regulars loyal to his Uncle who wants to rebel against the Dragon. Come on boys! Fuck Marcus, we're setting up shop in Alshain!>We held the line in 3039. Teddy for Coordinator NOW! Teddy? Teddy, no!>Clans? Of fucking course we're here to get our asses beat, but even Luthien had them on their doorstep. The young Dragon shall not forget us.>So little is left of our home. Surely, Teddy shall give us Pesht to rebuild and reward our loyalty after all these years...>He gave the Warlord title to HIS SLUT NINJA WIFE?!>Nah, that's it. You want to see the beasts we've been keeping back from your door? You got it, Ted. The boys will die, but at the end of this disaster, your wife will have to kill herself for her total incompetence that you favored.>Nothing left, now. Teddy is broken. I lay dying, but the Dragon will survive. These other Black Dragon Gems will help me make a better Combine.>So, uh, the President of LAW blew up LAW>ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!!
>>98669780Our own parts bin, the IWM salvage yard, or other random things. The OG AIV Urbanmech that got canonized was just a regular metal one with a 40K Orc missile launcher attached to it.
>>98665669>>98665951>Wish cgl would sell normal boxes of 4 insted that frankenbox with 2 of the kind.I mean, yeah, but it's even worse with the Salvage boxes...I've got a spare Vedette, SturmFeur, Condor, and Pike.At least the Battle and Fire Lances box give you enough SRM/LRM turrets to run a full squad.>>98666512>I did it four or five times, including one game where I took two lances of tanks and a company of infantry against a lance of mechs. I won with heavy losses.Was it a Base Defense for a Campaign?
>>98669485Incorporating a Baltic mercantile co-op into your reconquista spain flavored space empire is Not erratic
My tundra base for this locust came out okay, but I think the snow is a bit off-colored and maybe a bit too clumpy. Anybody got any good formulas or snow effect products you’d recommend?
>>98669910>The OG AIV Urbanmech that got canonized was just a regular metal one with a 40K Orc missile launcher attached to it.How did that happen? You aren't allowed to use non CGL bits during conversions if those components are made for another game. That couldn't have happened.
>>98670119>Random rules made up by not-CGL tourneyfags in the last 5 years.Guess what? We used to have genuine canon events that could alter the course of the story too! CGL didn't even make minis outside random intro boxes until 2018.
>>98669959Yes. Buying two boxes got me 8 lrm/srm carrier, 4 vedette and 4 manticore. A proper assfucker vee force.8 lrm carrier C's... 4 vedette (armour)'s and4 manticore (xl)'s.Brootol. KUNNIN.
The 40 ton bracket has no cool mechs
>>98670207Vulcan is cool
>>98670207cool or good? Battle cobra is both.
>>98670207Swordsman is my stupid chud son who is bad at larping as a SHD, and I want it to get any variants whatsoever.
>>98669959>Was it a base defenseNo, pickup game, urban warfare.
>>98670212I like how it comes in a pack of other shit mechs.
>>98670118I think it looks great. Snow only stays white and pure for a few hours or days, depending. Yours looks perfectly like it snowed a few days, the snow's gotten a little dirty, and it's blown and melted and refrozen.
>>98669780I bought a Death Ray Design weapon pack for a frankenmech project, but IWM sells individual sprues from most of their mechs, and also some random extra conversion bits.
>>98670118>>98670260i agree. looks like the kind of icy sludge you get when snow starts to melt
>>98670252That's what happens when they save all the doodoo mechs for last.
>>98670252>>98670266>scorpion>shitmechYou shut your whore mouth!
>>98670234>>98670207I agree, Swordsman is cool give me variants, just make up a story about someone finding an abandoned AOW cache on some backwater abandoned before or during the First Succession War.
>>98670314Trying Too Hard
>>98670252I like the Vulcan and the Scorpion. They should make an anti-infantry/war crimes lance with a Vulcan and a Firestarter. Not sure what the other two should be.
>>98670195Youch, just need some Warriors from the Recon and Hunter Lance for some bullshit spotters!
>>98670314>only SRM ammo in a side torsoAnon likes it when his mechs explode
>>98670155How the hell did they actually make money on minis, then? A wargame company makes its own minis. That how it works. You'd never see someone else making GW's minis (Forge World being a GW imprint and all). Is Catalyst just run by stupid people who don't know how business works?
>>98670516Catalyst is a publisher at its core, they spent 2003-2007 making books, not wargame minis.
>>98670516Catalyst was never a Wargaming company like Games Workshop and honestly I don't even believe Battletech to even be a standard Wargaming Miniatures game.You can play this game with paper cutouts. Hell one of my friends literally used hexagon chips where he can write the names of each mech on.
>>98670252Whitworth is good how dare you slander it!
>>98670960It, like Blackjack, is annoying, not good.
>>98670997Sounds like you have yet to encounter a WTH-1S with a bin of inferno ammo. Real nasty piece of work in introtech that.
>>98670997Its cheap. Its mobile. Once its ammo is used up its insanely hard to knock out. Frankly a very reliable mech to have around.
>>98670207The 2-3U Clint is a menace
>>98670207Oh look its this retard again.
>>98670218Such a boss, Steel Vipers knew how to build some tasty 'mechs.
>>98670997You are lucky they just killed smoke LRM 5s
>>98670207You can just ask for mech recommendations without posting bait, you know. I like the Carrion Crow.
>>98671398>You are lucky they just killed smoke LRM 5sWait, what?
>>98667100>>98667162Ok. Makes more sense now.>>98667223Go away looser.
Just about done
>>98671530Honestly it's looking pretty good, I'm not sure why they were afraid to just have the cockpit in the actual head of the original design.Those ass lasers are killing my sides though kek
>>98671551Tbh I prefer the head being in the torso. It makes the horse head look more like a decoration that some Clanner designer decided to add to make the mech look like their totem animal, as opposed to the khan specifically demanding a mecha-pony.
>>98671565Did you just forget that biped mechs have heads?
Just got into BattleTech (as far as actually playing). Here's my lance, sans an Archer I borrowed for my first game. Had a good time, but the group I played with only plays Alpha Strike, not Classic. How much am I missing out of the trve tabletop experience of BattleTech?
>>98671635You're missing about three quarters of it. Alpha Strike is a simplified system for bigger battles.
>>98671635Alpha Strike sands away a lot of individual character from mechs and reduces them to a pretty homogenous stat block. Lots of little nuanced design choices or even specific weapons get abstracted away and it leads to lots of mechs feeling too similar.
>>98671551>My poor much maligned Balius, clanner battle-pony. There were at least a couple of thought that lead the original design to end up where it did. My initial sketches were a bit more like this, but horribly horribly worse, and had a separated head/cockpit. But, pretty much all BT Quads don't go that route. They usually have integrated or bodied cockpits. The proportions of limb .vs. body mass distribution is usually very different than that of a horse as well, and if you know anything about drawing horses, one tiny f-up in proportions and it's a dog. Literally. so, it ended up with a body cockpit with a head piece adornment.From the horse's mouth, matt plog on his deviantart page where he posted this redesign.
>>98671653>>98671670Ouch, okay. I'll see if there's some guys in the larger group who will play classic as well. I definitely felt the homogeneous stat block thing. My Shadowhawk and Wolverine may as well have both been the same mech since they were doing the same damage at the same ranges.
>>98671598Quad mechs usually don't have a separate head, though.
>>98671670>>98671709It sorta depends on the era. 3025 era 'Mechs get this the worst, but later eras have a lot more equipment installed into them as standard and that causes a bunch of different keywords and special abilities to come into play on them that helps restore differentiation between 'mechs.You could well argue that the system as designed is for either earlier than the Second Succession War or for later than the FedCom Civil War. Third Succession War to Clan Invasion really doesn't have all the hooks it is looking for, even if you can covert them over. You're pretty much getting a simpler version of Introtech to give a more general introduction to Battletech (particularly with the optional Multiple Attack Rolls rule being applied)
>>98671708I take issue with the horsebot using a gigantic XL engine just to go 6/9. If it went down to 5/8 it could take a supercharger and have 9.5 tons to play with while still being able to run (10).
>>986718665/8[10] is like the most cursed movement profile, I fucking hate it.
>>98670380How about this.
>>98671776They are currently playing JIhad era, but are going to move to ilClan soon tm.
>>986718666/9 with TSM for 7/11 is better
>>98671917Trying to go 6/9 at 65 tons is even more cursed.
>>98671930TSM horse kicks would be funny
>>98671866>linebacker with 6 tons less pod spaceWhat did they mean by this.
>>98671953this guy gets it
>>98671708Cool that plog redesigned it. Shame its a really poor mech.
>>98671506Only Arrow IV missiles have a smoke option in the new rules.
>>98670252This is the box of guys you kill in like the 3rd session of a MW:D game
>>98670252See this is a great box because usually they package a few good mechs and a few questionable mechs together, this time they just made a full-on box of dogshit so these mechs hopefully won’t escape to taint any good force packs
>>98672580Why are U ghey?
I buy bad mechs on purpose.
>>98672881unfathomably based
>>98670207Chimera is my boy got canonized later it's a tiny guy with an mrm20 I bet it'll be flat nasty with new MRM rules vs a hilarious dice gamble.Witworth actually good mech.Battle Cobra mentioned.What actually is the worst tonnage in Battle tech? 95 seems like a strong contender. Some could say 20 because it's so limited.Wait smoked got reduced? Noooooo
>>98672991LRM 5s can't shoot mines either.
>>98672313>Only Arrow IV missiles have a smoke option in the new rules.What?!I've seen they've added Smoke Arrow IV missiles, but nothing about removing Smoke LRMs...>>98673052Again, wondering where you saw this...
>>98672881I buy mechs so my lances/stars have a matching theme>All jump capable humanoid gundam looking mechs (Viper (IS), Crusader, Phoenix Hawk, Enforcer)>All chicken walker omnimechs (Blood Asp, Linebacker, Mad Cat, Ebon Jaguar, Vulture)>All guys with dual arm cannons (Rifleman, Mauler, Devastator, Lancelot, Firestarter)>Heavy/Assault weight jump mechs (Pillager, Highlander, Charger variants, Victor)
>>98673052My entire play style and love for war crimes is destroyed. I need a minute anon... I need a minute.
>>98673146I'm calling bullshit, not seeing anything about alternate LRM or SRM munitions being removed...
>>9867299190 tons is actually where construction rules can actually fuck them over especially when it comes to jump jets. Like the Highlander for example would legit be a vastly more efficient design at 85 as opposed to 90 tons.
>>98673103>>98673170The main rule book, retards. There is straight up no entry for smoke missiles in the LRM/SRM ammo section
>>98673272Which tracks since smoke LRMs weren't in TW either. It'll probably return as strictly optional in a later book. Smoke spam is one of those things you can do to make a game absolutely miserable, so it being core would have been a mistake.
>>98672881I buy shitty and overpriced IWM vees on purpose
>>98673287>Which tracks since smoke LRMs weren't in TW either.Weird, I figured they might be in the Battlemech Manual, but they're not there either...
>>98673423No, they're TacOps gear. I presume they'll remain so, as while some TacOps stuff is moved to the new main rulebook it's primarily stuff that's already in the BMM (Arrow IV and a bunch of late Jihad/early DA weapons and equipment).
Do the taurians do business with the Sea Jews? Are they capable of fueling clan tech in any capacity in the modern era?
>>98673564The periphery in general is capable of fielding some clantech by ilclan. I don't remember reading anywhere about the Taurians refusing to do business with shark foxes, and there's a trade in second line and re-re-re-refurbished invasion and post-invasion stuff circulating around the entire IS and near periphery.
>>98672991Chimera was fanon when Mechwarrior 4 launched? I had no idea
>>98673668Pretty much everything new in MW4 was non-canon at the time. Think something similar happened with MC2.
>>98673668Anything introduced in a vidya is apocryphal until reintroduced in a canon source. The canon Argo is much less insane than the vidya Argo, for example. Its multi-dock thing is pretty much a boondoggle.
>>98673668I worded it poorly it was later canonized because it was so kick ass. As said above stuff was added later some is semi canon that guy is 100%.On that note never saw why mw5 or mwo didn't add the Argus would look very much in place and was a stout mech.
What if there was a Rakshasa IIC?
>>98673897It would stand tall among the Black Hawk (Battlemech)s and Cougar Xs
>>98673897I've wondered why there was never an update to the machine but then I realized that if they actually did anything to fix the design at all it would go against the spirit of it. At the same time, doing anything to make a faster marauder would also go against the spirit of the Rakshasha as well which is really annoying. Not only does it cuck itself but it also sucks a good mech as well
>>98673292Show them to me.
>>98673897Lol
How do you pronounce Black Hawk KU? Kay-you? Coo? Queue?
>>98674321Coo, like Kurita.
Are there any non-omnimech space mechs?
>>98674321Kay-Yoo, saying the two letters separately
There are heavier variants of the marauder, which is cool, but why aren't their lighter variants of it as well? We have a crustacean mech in almost every class now as well as a Mad Cat in almost every class, why is the Marauder relegated to just getting heavier? I even sat down and workshopped up a 55 ton version with a similar loadout as a normal marauder in like 5 minutes
>>98674352Are there any OmniMech space Mechs?
New thread>>98674623>>98674623>>98674623
>>98674613The U variants are either for underwater or space, depending on which mech you're talking about.Water mechs generally get torpedoes, lasers, and UMUs if they don't have fixed jump jets. Space mechs get jump jets, liquid storage for reaction mass, and a melee weapon for boarding.
