Bitchin' last stand editionPrevious thread: >>98675727>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>Titanicus Compendiumshttps://gofile.io/d/Qiwij4PJ>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/TQ: What is the coolest vehicle for a tank company commander?
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Hello /hhg/ I am once again e-begging for Wilphs contemptor stl, or any of his filesHere's a photo of a game where my wolves got Iron Warrior'ed as tribute
>>98690172It's gonna be even worse than you fear
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>>98690172When?
>>98689653https://gofile.io/d/jadWCM9z if you want one that look more like the classic one look for the FoZ one>>98690178Aside from the contemptor are you looking for anything in particular anon? i will add more stuff on that folder later
Does the fateweaver cohort have access to the lord of change?
>>98690172It's gonna be some more plastic mechanicum we've all been expecting
>>98690172Teaser image had an Alpha Legion symbol, so maybe plastic Headhunters now that the upgrade doesn’t really go with the kit anymore
>>98690353>https://gofile.io/d/jadWCM9zThe praetor in MkIII, the Indomitus terminators and the Kratos if you have them. Thank you anon it is greatly appreciated
>>98690517Not sure what teaser image you’re referring to, but I doubt we’re getting anything legion-specific. Those look to be way down the road after everything else gets updated in plastic. But AL are pretty well known for seekers, which seem to be fairly popular in 3.0 currently. Could be getting a those or maybe a dual kit with recon squads as well.
I stuck a Cataphracti head in Kravek Morne’s body and it looks silly, but it a way I kind of like. It does make me realize how “skin tight” helmets are nowadays, how the hell is he supposed to head in there?
Reductor feels niche. Especially when they aren't going to go alongside Thallax.I suppose Reductor Magi could attach to Myrmidon Destroyers and just suffer -1Ld -1 Cool and not cast Cybertheurgy on them at all? Fucking S8 lascannons.
>>98690570Smollturabo TToTT
>>98690570Old or new Cataphractii? Can you take a picture?
>>98688326>40k player at LGS always waddles over to us if he says us playing HH>"WOW THAT LOOKS COOL BUT DID THEY ADD ORKS YET?">"YEAH FOR ME THE BIG APPEAL IS XENOS.">waddles back to his slop gameThis has happened twice, with the same three persons (me, opponent, 40koomer)
I have a design for what my warhound's parade banner will look like with maybe some tweeks but I keep putting off because if I make a single mistake on the calligraphy or really any design element beyond a tiny touch up I'll have to scrap it and start again. Acetone is a flamethrower type solution and at least on the old paper I used it fucked up the surface finish (haven't tried tried it on my acid free 100 gsm art paper) and I'm wary of trying to scrape stuff off even on heavy paper. I wish I was an arthoe twink with experience in hectographic duplication and similar processes since I could expose the same plate with each completed part of the design separately then just printing it all onto the paper. It would even let me paint the background first without worrying about it messing with the ink but I've never done it before and it could be a long learning process and rabbithole. TQA sabre would be pretty baller choice but its not a tank and idk if it its even an option for the tank commander.
>>98690644He likes what he likes, and doesn't seem to get in the way of what you like. Idk, seems more respectful than the average interaction nowadays.I swear Orks are still in the background causing trouble in 30k...but daemons and Horus and traitor marines and mankind are a far more immediate threat than any xenos. Especially when Ork Gorro or whatever Ullanor was called was rubble at the time.
>>98690617>>98690619I’m a newcomer so I took the Cataphractii bits from the new kit. Technically my first proper kitbash, though all I did was the head swap, plus clipping off the wires and spiked apparatus and sanding it smooth on the top of the armor (plus some putty to fill in the small gap that seemed to create)
>>98690726I see, that could work, what if you trimmed the neck down? I am kind of tempted to convert him into a traitor Terminator Mortificator, maybe Tartaros since the dude's armor seemingly has more in common with Indomitus despite the intent, but it's probably going to take a bit to de-Chaos trim everything.
>>98690718It’s my understanding that the orks were basically pushed to the edge of the galaxy and functionally posed no threat to the pre-Heresy Imperium. Sending two Legions after an Ork Empire was seen as massive overkill due to how weak it was in Know No Fear. I don’t they would warrant official rules, unless you progressed REALLY deep into the Scouring.
>>98690732I had to trim down the neck quite a bit to make it fit. His armor definitely is a mixture of Indomitus and Cataphractii, I was imagining him with fancy late Heresy Artificer Terminator armor from the increasingly twisted forges of the Dark Mech.
>>98690405plastic vorax?
>>98687489>>98687771LORD ANCIENT GHULPY AGREES
>>98690906some awesome battle damage there
>>98690172>big reveal>just more custodes AGAINHH reveals have been custodes for nearly 3 times in a row now
>>98690909Hes been around since the Dusk Raiders days, so hes earned his "medals".
>>98690715>Canis BellumA dog of war, if you will
>>98690107>TQ: What is the coolest vehicle for a tank company commander?Kratos. Big, made for duelling other tanks. Either that or a fellblade or something.
>>98690644I get wanting Xenos but I can’t imagine wanting it so bad I’d play modern 40k.
Mechbros, should arquitor magisterium be used solo with infiltrate or should they go with some scyllax?
>>98691117they're quite tanky already and their Gambit is excellent if you just want to stab a bitch early game, but it's overkill if you're killing an enemy Magos or Archmagos because you're probably already negatively affecting their WS so I would say depending on the enemy and the battlefield, with a preference to infiltrate and just hack shit up, but mindful of the fact quite tanky is not the same as nigh invulnerable when you're out in the open
>>98691135My idea, if infiltrating, would be to try hide them in some terrain near the enemy, ideally where theyre out of LoS but still close enough to mess with shooting on important pieces. Then when they can move forwards and tie up some valuable piece in combat, since with their decent durability and aura they should be pretty safe vs admech in melee. One thing I am concerned about, effectiveness asides, is that "splashing" for one against admech could be seen as a dick move.
Wait, arquitor magisterium dont have magos melee weapons? Didnt they use to have paragon blades and corposant staves last edition? The model has a sword!
>>98690107This just looks silly. Titans maintain suspension of disbelief by being support or supported by masses of infantry, just having a bunch of them shooting at each other in punching distance just makes it all the more obvious that they're toys >>98691161They do, was given back in an FAQ when they realized the model GW sells wasn't legal (but all the faggots converting thunder hammers on all the mech characters are legal somehow, PBTA those get FAQd away instead)
>>98690906>spend hours carving realistic battle damage>give him a fucking T pose with completely straight legsThis is why GW won't give us poseable kits anymore.
>>98690906Thats some really nice battle damage on the legs, howd you do it.
>>98690913And it will be so again. On top of that the "reveals" is going to be stuff they already shown months ago.
>>98691202>his dreadnoughts don't assert dominance
>>98691202>GW won't give us poseable kits anymoreSaturnine dreadnought with each individual toe segment being poseable disagrees.
>>98691416Lets face it Saturnine dreadnoughts only exist so Grey Knights player could have nice Nemezis dreadnought, at the cost of buying two kits to build one.
>>98691436Congratulations, you have won the "Most retarded post of the moth" award!
>>98691495Like Batgirl, I have always been a Moth guy. You must have read my mind.
>>98691495>mothOooooooooooooof.
>>98691436Arguably too bulky, but even then it seems like a Telemon would be a better basis for one.
>>98691542Telamon is too slim and too lanky. NDK have to be wide and bulky.
>>98691565Neat. But drill those barrels.
>>98691574if you go through all the effort to convoort, not drilling those barrels is clearly a choice. a bad one.
>>98691574avdot of point was enough in the 90s, and it is nough for me today
How do stat modifiers work with flat stat value weapons. So say world eaters charge with lascutters, do they make two attacks (1 for the weapon, +1 for the trait) or just 1?
>>98691135>depending on the enemy and the battlefieldALWAYS assume WS5 terminators, for the following reasons:1. 30k is about marines vs marines, so they are the most numerous faction. WS5 2+/5++ or better is their elite warrior statline2. Worry about what's hard to deal with. If it's not hard to deal with...why worry? Thus, worry about WS5 Terminators.Using these parameters, also worry about AV14 — nobody's ever struggled with killing a Predator; you just shoot them and they're gone.
>>98690537Done, not sure if that is the kratos you are looking for since wilph vehicles are kind of rare in the groups i am
>>98691636I would like to believe this is satire, but I know some people take it seriously.
>>98691635It would be modifiable if it said "Attacks: A". But it says "Attacks: 1", which means it's setting them. This is in the rulebook, though it's also in Wahapedia, which has Ctrl F.Respectfully, try that one.
>>98691650Unironically am I to worry about the easy stuff? My antiAV14 options is ONE Vultarax. My anti2+ is Breaching 5+ and massed WS6 ;^).Marines have all the tools, whereas the toolmakers barely have units for every FOC slot.
>>98691669>My antiAV14 options is ONE VultaraxOr the Thanatar Calix. Hello, I am Mr. Griefer, Cheesemaster.
>>98691141it's literally for murdering Mech with, it's just that you can really wade into them and slap the chaff aside with that debuff, but it'll do fine against anything short of a primarch - it's more or less a high-end praetor before you get to boosting Power of the Machine Spirit with a servo-arm so you're hitting at WS8 S7 with your paragon blade while you gently reheat the other guy with your rad furnace>>98691636[giggling food processor noises]>>98691635if a melee weapon profile has a stated number of attacks, that's the number of attacks it makes
>>98691635
>>98691669>My antiAV14 options is ONE VultaraxYea... that wont cut it. Especially if its a land raider that doesent care if you supress it. But admech dont have great AT in general this edition. Its the vulturax and the thanatar, and neither do the job alone/in small numbers. >am I to worry about the easy stuffIt depends on what you have, but possibly yea. Say you have a vindicator. Big S12 D6 gun. Super spooky right? Can blow a hole through a land raider in one go. But what happens when they have four predators instead? Suddenly your "one big gun" doesent work as well. Or the Kratos, it can snap fire, but the lascannons are often not enough to kill a tank (like a predator) on their own, so its still limited by the number of targets it can effectively engage.
>>98691669Why are you scared of AV 14 vehicles? None of them kill anything that isn't big vehicles efficiently.
>>98691669>My anti2+ is Breaching 5+ and massed WS6I assume you mean scillax? Because I dont know if thats "good enough". 10 of them deal like, 4 wounds to tartaros terminators even if they hit on 3s. Myrmidons do similar. Domitar might do better? D2 is big, but at 3A per 100pts idk. Youre admech, just shoot them with massed Ap2.
>>98691717I don't get the craze about Scyllax. Played against it a couple of times, my deathwing companions still butchered them despite their WS 6.
>>98691689>it'll do fine against anything short of a primarch>you're hitting at WS8 S7 with your paragon blade while you gently reheat the other guy with your rad furnaceBro, that's better than half the Primarchs. Especially with a Thunder hammer, which they do get. Alone or with Automata, Arcuitors can be WS8 BS6 A6 even before PotMS (Prime: Paragon of Battle)>boosting Power of the Machine Spirit with a servo-armI'm not sure you can use a servo arm for that, as PotMS uses your Battlesmith X>Yeah and Servo Arm increases your Battlesmith X by +1No. Servo Arm repairs +1W/HP when you use the Repair option of Battlesmith; it modifies nothing.But +2 to stats (ATTACK) is still okay
>>98690172inb4 it's just a new resin model for some Black Library Glupp Shitto
>>98691700>None of them kill anything that isn't big vehicles efficiently.Half our army is T5 W4 models! That's prime targets for the Kratos fully half of marine lists bring
>>98691696>Can blow a hole through a land raider in one go. But what happens when they have four predators instead?Then you go left to right instead of front to back
>>98691740Well, theyre 25pts for WS5 S5 T5 breaching 5+. They are, genuinely, very cost efficient and will do great into most marine infantry. But they wont (imo) cut it against the truly elite/potent stuff. Theyre there to kill despoilers and veterans, not terminator command squads (this is also imo true for myrmidons, at least in combat).
>>98691765And between rolling to hit, wound, and invulnerable saves, it kills around a single one. That's 400 points wasting an entire turn killing one single model only a tiny fraction of its points cost. At the LGS nobody brings kratos any more, and for good reason. People quickly figured out that the most easy way to deal with a kratos is just ignoring it. Put your big AV transport behind terrain so it can't be shot before moving, and after it moves it's already too late for the kratos to stop what you want the transport to do.
>>98691804>Put your big AV transport behind terrain so it can't be shot before moving,The humble fateweaver cohort allied detachment would like to say hello. I expect you will see quite a lot of those alongside kratoses
>>98691804>and after it moves it's already too late for the kratos to stop what you want the transport to do.You (most likely) did not deploy your big expensive transport (which are not very fast) on the edge of the deployment line if its hidden behind cover. Chances are it moving for one round is not actually good value for what you paid for it. And you did not buy a land raider go let your terminators or whatever move an extra 7" for one turn.
>>98691804>and after it moves it's already too late for the kratos to stop what you want the transport to do.You want those transports to safely deliver a melee deathstar/expensive unit where they need to go. Which is unlikely to be the case with a conservative deployment + turn 1 disembark.
>>98691809That power only turns off medium or heavy area terrain. Other LOS blocking terrain is unaffected.
>>98691836>That power only turns off medium or heavy area terrain.Which is all terrain except light terrain, which does not block LoS anyways.
>>9869174010 Scyllax kill 3 WS5 Termies at i3 for 250 pts. Those are fine numbers.They would probably be countered by power weapons...but the meta seems to be i-2 hammers
>>98691842Stop being a nogames.
>>98691844>They would probably be countered by power weaponsNah. Maybe twin claws? But the power weapons that you want vs t5 (maces, axes) are I-1, hitting at the same time as the scyllax. I guess you get to hit with them, but the 2x (more even) damage for thunder hammers is worth losing a couple of guys who wont get to hit. >10 Scyllax kill 3 WS5 Termies at i3 for 250 ptsBut also they dont. They kill 2~, and thats WITH cyberthurgic buffs (and them being tartaros rather than cata), on their own they kill 1~ terminator
>>98691804Ignorable? Kratos battlecannons are 5"!>AP4, D1Kratos are actually ignorable! I have learned to stop worrying (and love the bomb)
Journals for individual legions when? It's been over a third of the edition already
>>98691844>Using 250 points to kill 150 points of terminators>This is above average performanceAnd what do you think the remaining terminators and character(s) are gonna do after that? Sit their twiddling their thumbs?
>>98691857Anon whatever you were hiding behind is area terrain. That building? Area terrain. That ruin? Area terrain. That forest? Area terrain. That hill? Area terrain. And with planewarp that terrain no longer blocks LoS, not "you can draw a line through it without the limitation thing" (which might be the intention), but just straight up does not block LoS, you can see through it as if it wasnt there. >>98691866D2, theyre heavy(D) always (unless statussed) iirc. Also stun or something. But also everyone uses the melta cannon. Which is D4 melta(24) 2 shots, S10.
>>98691877If they have cyberthurgy for WS6, the remaining 3~2 terminators in the unit (assuming a starting size of 5, equal points to the scyllax) will kill around 2 scyllax in return. A very good trade for the scyllax.
>>98691868>Journals for individual legions when?Eventually.
>>98691879Holy shit you're actually retarded. Have you even looked at a rulebook once? Because it's pretty obvious you haven't touched a single miniature in your life.
>>98691891Thanks james, concise as always
>>98691868>He thinks 30k is getting another editionLolLmao
>>98691868If you still believe HH will have a 3 year edition cycle? Not this edition
>>98691860No, 3 Catas (with buff ofc):10 Scyllax: 40A Impact (A)WS6 means 2/3 of them hit: 26.66 hitsBreaching 5 & 4++ means 4.44 unsaved wounds>That's 2S5 and Rad Furnace vs T5 2+ means 40 * 2/36: another 1.48 unsaved wounds through sheer chip damage.1.48 + 4.44 = 5.92 unsaved wounds. That's 3 dead Termies. The 2 survivors could tie that combat, and next turn Scyllax get depowered and lose a guy from feedback, so indeed, I wouldn't try that without an Arcuitor to tip the scale and win combat through duel scores.But at least it's an option on the Mech Menu.
>>98691877Wait for the Arcuitor to kill their attached character and make them lose combat, yes -> >>98691920>Well what if they don't have an Arcuitor?Then I wouldn't bother with Scyllax to begin with, and I'd shoot everyone with AP2 guns as I was advised to earlier.But I thought meeting them in combat was more sportsmanlike.
>>98691879>with planewarp that terrain no longer blocks LoSMacrotek could move 3 buildings up to 6" each. But nobody knew, because nobody bothered taking Macrotek lmao
>>98691920>impact(A)lolAnon, you arent charging with your scyllax be serious. Theyre slow as balls. Catas arent getting their charge benefits either in any sane world, for the same reason30*2/3*1/3*1/2+30*2/3*1/3*1/6 = 4.4 wounds into catas30*2/3*1/3*2/3+30*2/3*1/3*1/6 = 5.5 wounds into tarts>>98691939>But I thought meeting them in combat was more sportsmanlike.Dont do sport with people who bring terminator deathstars. KIll them in the least dignified way possible.
>>98691939The rules of honour are dictated by the victor. Those who lost are too dead to argue against it.
>>98691949Explain.
>>98691949As if we needed more proof that nobody actually reads the rules themselves lmao. People only get their information from online (hyperbolic) discourse about "the meta".
>>98691950>Anon, you arent charging with your scyllaxWhy not? I got transports. I would also confidently say I got a Land Raider too, if it didn't need hourseruling to fix Macrotek transportsThey move 6", they're not Heavy, and the Arcuitor sets up 3", same as marines.They totally can [wait for the other deathstar to disembark first and whoops the game is already over - should've brought a Reductor locksmith!]
>>98691953>>98691950>Dont do sport with people who bring terminator deathstars.The simulation is for only 5 Termies in a LR. I'd be too scared of full 10 terminators to engage them directly! D:
>>98691999>Why not?Scyllax are slow and the triaros isnt an assault vehicle. So you have a big telegraphed melee swing that makes a disordered charge (and even if you make it, no impact(a)).
>>98691959In 2E. Here.>>98691992Here, go yell at books.
>>98692025>In 2EAh. Okay, I thought this was current edition.
>>98692016M6" is slow?>For a 4 turn game, it is:(>No assault vehicleAww. Man just where did all our character jetpacks disappear to?
>>98692025This doesn't make much sense when you kinda just agree where to put terrain between the two of you anyway
>>98692108Why do you think no one used it? It's only purpose was to be mean and deny another player's superheavy a good route to move or something, and superheavies really didn't need to be bullied any further in that edition
>>98692108It would've made more sense if it was after defining objectives and deployment.Or if it was a power. Didn't Geomancy did something like that in 7E?
>>98690107gw should have really added more effects weapons parts to that scene like smoke and gun flashes. it just looks like titans frolicking around a field
We lost so many rules ...but gained so much in stats, actually! Still, rule names like "Incorruptible Flesh" and "Opus Viscera"; top tier names.
>>98691202Hes standing at the crest of a fucking hill, what, do you want him striking a pose and sashaying and vogueing, you fucking faggot?Lets see YOUR dreadnought poses then.
>>98691205Drill holes with electric pin vise, then carve out the edges very carefully at a severe angle with a brand new sharp xacto blade. Unlike what dipshit here says (>>98691202), it only takes seconds to do.
>>98692384This would be such a rad army concept if we had anything more than lame zombie tech thralls to work with
>>98690227very nice candy red, anon
>>98692415Technically back then they could work with Myrmidons — Mechanicus' interfaction impedances were set up precisely so you couldn't have Myrmidons move extra anymore. Fury of Ages cannot Quicken.Wouldn't be so bad if Magi could join Thallax/Ursarax without slowing them down. You know, like every edition before.There's a player out there with a snake-like Magos (Coatl) who led Thallax shock troops to victory. Honestly impressive.
Making a master in affinity to print transfers from might actually be easier than I expected. I managed find clean images without a background for most of what I wanted to make transfers of and the basic editing features in Affinity seem to work for removing backgrounds. Then I just have to eyeball the size by zooming to 104% or whatever.I will need to maximise the printed space by basically adding everything I might remotely want in multiples including a legion bort number for every epic scale tank I have including those I've not even built yet.The only thing vexing me is how you print white transfers.
Put the Automita in the bag, James
>>98692800>WS3 BS3, can't score, can't reactThey don't need Techpriest help to be better. They need it to be normal.Unless they're Scyllax, where they are WS5 BS5 for whatever reason lol
>>98692819I just think they look cool
>>98692835Oof totally. They look like shellfish to me. It's the carapaces
>>98692873Enemy crab when?
>>98692448Wouldn't be so bad if Magi could join Thallax/Ursarax without slowing them down. You know, like every edition before.It was (whyever) only the Magos prime who could get a jetpack. And while he coud join Thallax this wasn't the case with Ursarax, as these were jump infantry (1st)/had the Utan jump booster (2nd).
>BRACE FOR SLOPBRACE FOR SLOP>BRACE FOR SLOPBRACE FOR SLOP>BRACE FOR SLOPBRACE FOR SLOP>BRACE FOR SLOPBRACE FOR SLOP
>>98692903What if it's actually good?
>>98692898>only the Magos prime who could get a jetpackPrime booty too thicc. Utan boosters were weird for weirdness' sake. Jet pack rules were excessively fast too. JSJ; they never learned from their sins.Though Abeyants are proper antigrav. Idk, we're halfway there
Thallax hq when?
HOLD THE LIME.
What could it be chat?
>>98692936
>>98692903Fingers crossed for Horus Heresy Heroes gacha boxes.
>paint
>>98693020What would those even be? Command models of different flavors?
>>98693005That's clearly a custodes terminator in the top left.Yup it's over.
>>98693005>>98693053Mechbros...
>>98693053And would you look at that they're no longer in the webstore.
>>98693047Just your general marines in unique poses with cool adornments, a cent and a praetor as rares.
Oh fuck off nobody likes custodes, they are just marines but boring
>>98693020Wtf is a gacha box
>>98693005TARTY SHARTY
I don't care about paints.
>>98693053Haven't they been leaked already?
>>98693043>paintThe T is silent. Silen, even.
>>98693053And here you guys were mad about people worrying about terminators. There will be so many terminators...
>>98693125I would have said it was impossible to fuck up that design but apparently I would have been wrong
>>98693125Yeah old news, they look so poopy.
>>98693125These are for 40k, not 30k
>>98693091Blind buy boxes. Different model in each box, but you don’t know which one it will be. Called gacha because of Japanese/Asian gacha videogames that use the same concept to unlock characters using paid currency.
>15 minutes later>They're still talking about paint
>Easter egg>Plastered on the front page
>>98693125Hands are kinda small. Didn’t these guys also have crests and plumes?
>>98693147Ok thanks for explaining, sounds like cancer gambling to me.
>>98693053It's so over
Please no more cuckstodes
>>98693125Where are the crests
>40k getting our Custodes stuff.This angers me more than it should.
Why is New always worse than Old? This can't keep happening!!
>>98693181But Henry Cavill likes them and hes literally me!
>>98693125They're the biggest downgrade in the new custodes model range
>>98693189They gave every MkIII mandatory pickelhaubes yet removed Custodian head plumes. We should've all died in the fires of Horus' ambition
>>98693125Might as well call it the Custodes Heresy because it's all they fucking release now
>Here's your 30k Custodes>Only talks about how they are in 40k.KILL ALL 40KIDS!
>>98693201Actually, he liked the Custodes that already existed. He has no opinion on the new things being released, and he cannot have it, lest he gets ousted from the new tv show
>>98693197Mecanicum was generally better
>>98693230He already did during the Witcher and probably here too when they lore rape moar.
This is the only 30k stuff isn't it
>yet another custodes journalHorus was right
>>98693233What's better? generally they're sidegrades if they're changed at all with only tech thralls being genuinely worse
>>98693233Yeah because they ported the mini designs straight to plastics, besides the thralls and myrmidons.
I don't care about warhamner plus
Truescale GK terminator conversions with primaris legs would look better than yhose
>>98693201Henry talks about liking them a lot but he's never shown a picture of his full army
>>98693244You will receive nothing and you will clap
>>98693255plus Slannesh demons and Solar Auxilia falling to Slannesh
Those are some good boney boys
>more cucktoadies Nuke Nottingstan.
>custodes vs Slaanesh journal>in the same edition where female custodes were introducedTee hee
That's it?
>Slaanesh as Excess (obsession, perfection, flawlessness)Zzz>Slaanesh as sexoSEXOFlanderised into a literal coomer tranny god
thats it? fuck james
Those models wete already plastics tho, does he even know the products hes shilling?
>>98693324troon civil war
Enjoy the new product
>>98693125>>98693197Can’t quite put my finger on why the new ones look off. Posing is obvious issue, they’re all just standing there plainly. Not a fan of the tilt shield either, but that should be pretty easy to not include. Maybe the breastplate is more rounded?
There's no shot they bring anything over from AOS slaanesh like the two named keepers right?
Those npc necromunda models could be fun conversions
>>98693377It got Plumecumcised, brother!
>>98693378If it is Signus then it'll be about Kyriss the perverse. Idk if there could also be those two dancing daemons of Slaanesh. You know the ones, the broad dancing on top of the other guy.
>>98693377It's the tiny fists. This is just the custodes version of the cataphractii debacle, because some tranny on the design team has it out for cataphractii I guess. Probably thinks Roman or medieval aesthetics are fascist or something
>ywn play wargames with a goth baddie
>>98693396
>>98693377They look so small and weedy unlike the old ones who look like a ton of bricks.
>>98693396>Models of two game systems Perchance, to dream
Watching these shills try to describe DnD without saying DnD is kinda funny.
>>98693387Oy vey who clipped the Emperors golden ones?
>>98693424Donjons et Drakes!
>>98693378They're using Warhammer Underworlds models in the preview pics, I wouldn't rule anything out completely
AOS embarasing everyone else again
>>98693421Well they don’t quite have the same slimness problem that the cataphractii refresh had, but as >>98693404 pointed out, the hands and fists are pretty small. I also think the plume would go a long way to fixing their appearance.
>>98693454It's pretty funny how much better AoS is than all the other ranges, considering nobody gives a shit about AoS.
>>98693472They're present very poorly too. They're posed like they're just milling about, the tiny hands are just at the side, the guns are held loosly downwards. Souless
>>98693528Do you need medical attention?Do you smell toast?
>>98693551Nah, am just tarded
>>98693396Wtf are those poses? Are they waiting for a traffic light to switch?
>>98693445Well, good to know next two Journals are Nurgle and Khorne daemons vs someone
>>98693523Yeah their poses are so stiff and off.
>>98693478>nobody gives a shit about AoSThat's why they're the best.
>>98693580moar troonstodes :)
>>98693478>>98693445I wish Slaanesh daemons were actually alluring? No. Evil gotta be ugly, lest Timmy forgets which side is the good guys!
>>98693325You expected the company to support the game you're intended to spend thousands of dollars on? Silly goyim.
>>98693606Imperium are the evil fascists bro.
>>986933963 to a sprue. Look at the three designs of fist (you swap the fingers for claw and fist) those are the three hand poses. Just sort of off to the side like that, no rearing for a punch, not swept aside for balance, just hovering like they dropped the groceried
>>98693621Yeah the setting isn't meant to have a nice good guy. But marines went from monastic Firstborn zealots with angry faces, to knightly Primaris with tilt shields.Now they expect a clearly defined good guy, anon. "My shield is disgust, my sword is hatred"? Good heavens no, our inclusive heroes would never be like that!
>>98693396Why are the poses so fucking bad? the regular new custards are equally lifeless, like they didn't even bother. Genuinely embarrassing.
>>98693606Slaanesh is the god of excess, not the god of beauty. Excess is never beautiful.
>>98693765Literally metrosexuals (they have sex with metro stations)
>>98693765What if they're excessively beautiful?
>>98693791Who hasn't?
HOLY SHIT THEY AREN'T SHITMARIS
it seems like it is an actual tactical squad box, right?
>>98693666Humanity are the good guys because I'm human, simple as.
>firstborn nu scale mk740k is saved.
>>98693813>>98693869wat
What do we think sisters?
>>98693887>>98693813>Want new Mark VII>New legion of the damned.>No PrimarisYES>Covered in fire bits, so hard to convertFUCK.
>>98693891The Legion of the Dammed
>>98693893Pleasantly surprised! They seem to be pretty faithful to mkVII sculpts
>>98693902Wait fir GK and use them to convert dark angels or fists
>>98693902Yeah, that's a shame. And they still can end up bring primaris or nu CSM size. I'm not getting hyped just yet.
>>98693893>>98693909Maybe we are back
>>98693925But I want them for Carcharodons/Black Templars
>>98693902just shave the flames off
>>98693951You know this is the 30k thread right?
Wait, legion of the damned was cannon this entire time? I thought it was some guy's original oc donutsteel that got shitposted.
Kek, that's it...
>>98693971Theyvhad models
>>98693971how new are you
>3 severely downgraded custardes models is all hh gotSomehow even worse than I expected
>>98693902bro your siege-era Salamanders???
>>98693893I'll use them for my badab army
>>98693971They have been around since 3rd edition of 40k at least.
am I contrarian grug or do these new custards really look like pure ass?
>>98694033they r ass yes
>>98693970Let's be honest.It's the 30k + pre 8th ed general.
>>98694027They're gonna be taller than HH models, it's Red Corsairs bait again.
>>98694101>spectral legionnaire what It's DAMNED DAMNED FUCKING LEGIONNAIRE
>>98693887I guess HH Mark 7 is off the menu, boys.
>>98694101what do you mean corsairs bait?
>>986940282e too, Brute.
>>98694115Why would it be off the menu? If anything, it’s a good sign that an updated mkVII has been developed by GW.
>>98694114Eeeermm actually they can be used for damned legion and my donutsteel totally ghost legion too
>>98694149Indeed.
>>98694101>glowing joints and cracksOkay that is lit
>>98694148I thought they might have been but I wasn't sure I just painted two RT era metal marines as fire hawks and I promised to do a LotD if we got them so I should probably get on that
>>98694149>Why would it be off the menu?Have to keep the ranges separate, but equal. Was expecting them to squat all marks besides X and something special like MkVII and Aegis, leaving HH the only refuge for earlier marks, including VII. Now there's really no need for them to stuff in a last ditch power armour marks into HH, since it has a home in 40k.
>>98694017>the models were actually leaked months ago tooLol. Lmao, even
>>98694114They steer away from curse words to avoid getting demonetized :^)
>>98694210no HH gets bastard retard marks instead
>>98694101They got them FEATHER BONES ayylmao
>>98694114Heckin' Legionnairios
>Be GW>Finally put the proverbial bolt round into the original Marines you put out to pasture when primar*s rolls out>make original style MK7 Marines, modern sized, literal months after previous decision. Not even a year or two. Months.>probably profitTheir unmitigated contemptuous greed is fucking hilarious. Also those Custode termies are DOGSHIT ho-ly. The claws could be cool but they’re just….hanging there. Everything about them screams “just get this over with”. What a preview, Jesus.
>>98694431Enjoy the new product :^)
>Slaanesh Aux Were so back
Still no plastic outriders. Hope their new factory burns down.
>>98694431And it's not even weird kill team donut steel units it's a straight up full tactical squad that just got squatted.Executioners here we go!
>>98694529The feet are even all firmly planted on the base save three tacticsl rocks.
>>98694529
>>98693396Wow these are the worst.
>>98694581It's just insane how they absolutely mog YEARS of shitmaris releases. This could've been the marine refresh of 2017 all along.
>>98694529That standard is cool
>>98693396Why are all of they so skinny? The new Cataphractii were the same
>>98694529I like how they didn't go overboard with the flames, just tge right amount
>>98694614There's no distinct detail to them, they're just a blob of ostentatious detail with nothing to draw the eye anywhere in particular. The blank paldron becomes as much of a focal point as the head
>>98693396Wow these look like ass.
>>98694650They’re thick in the places where they should be thin and thin in places that should be thick.
>>98693606Anon, I want you to go look up extreme fetish models. The sorts of women who go overboard on the "bimbo" thing for example, or art along those lines. Are those women beautiful? No, not unless youre REALLY into that sort of thing. This is the same, slaanesh demons look like that because by the point youre a hardcore slaanesh devotee youre someone who cant get off unless it involves a prolapsed organ being nailed to a board and tooth cavity sounding.
>>98694664No topknot either
>>98694662Hahahaha, soooo happy I ordered a batch of the old ones a month ago
Those bunkers could be good for 30k as well
>>98694623Why do lotd have a standard, anyways? It is cool though.
>>98694856Why not? Marines have standards. The old LOTD had backbanners and shit no?
>>98694618As CSM shows, you could just make marines bigger and no one would give a shit. "yea, the new marines are closer in size to what they should be, enjoy"
>>98694856Kill team, each model is its own specual agent, you only use about 6 of those guys in a kt list and each one will have some special function
I think the new shotguns look like ass
It's fucked up that we have two Custards releases themed around fighting daemons this edition, and neither includes Sisters of Silence. What the hell?
>>98694627Funnily enough cata preators have better proportions and look appealing unlike whatever heresy is that banana squad...
>>98694917They do, it's unironically better to hunt 40k scout shotgun bits than the horrible Call of Duty ones from the HH kit, nevermind the cancer Necromunda combiweapons>>98694928The danger hair degenerates behind nuCustodes hate SoS.
>>98693765>>98694677nta, but this is just cope and lies. Slaanesh minis should be beatiful and disturbing in equal measure. The Diaz daeamonettes or the 30k DP Fulgrim are perfect examples of it, just like some of the AoS minis.But GW can't have sexy models with boobs and pretty faces, and risk a media shitstrom from concerned mums and fake feminists, so we're stuck with the ugly 40k versions we know.
>>98694966Custodes players hate SoS. I’ve never seen one that didn’t whine when SoS were good and that they “had” to bring them, at least on the 40K side.
>>98695011>But GW can't have sexy models with boobs and pretty faces, and risk a media shitstrom from concerned mums and fake feminists, so we're stuck with the ugly 40k versions we know.Except 30k chaos fulgrim is one of the most recently released slaanesh models. But also>Slaanesh minis should be beatiful and disturbing in equal measureNope, sorry. Youre wrong. Yes, they should contain ELEMENTS of what can be considered beautiful, or attractive, or aesthetic (and they do), but they on the whole should look repulsive and monstrous, because they represent a point so far beyond sanity it cant be anything else. The point is that wanting to fuck a seeker isnt a sane thing, its not a reasonable thing, its not a rational thing. Its fucking dick horse or hyper-vacuum felatio or whatever. Slaanesh isnt for the average joe, its for people looking up inflation vore.
>>98693144>He doesn't know
>>98695122I do now...
What is this weird new fetish the HH design team has with turning terminators into basic infantry armour? First cataphractii looking like power armour, now aquilon terminators looking like basic custodes armour. At this rate tartaros terminators are gonna look like fucking scout carapace armour...
>>98695035Yep. The daemon Slaanesh sends to the battlefield aren't some vanilla stuff to seduce the normies, but stuff that'll test the limits of those who find German scat clubs far too vanilla.
>>98693244At least today's nothing burger was gilded.
I still don't understand the difference between Solarite, Terranic, Terran and I don't know what else there is.
>>98694898but csm are still tiny, only the death guard and emperors children are bigger, world eaters, thousand sons, and regular csm are still minimarines.
>>98693125AHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA they look like they are desperately trying not to shit themselves and I already can imagine the retards that will defend them. Holy shit I'm crying.
>>98695327To be fair, nobody defended nu-cataphractii either.
>>98695324>but csm are still tinyNah, the new ones are waaaay bigger than the old marines. Not to mention things like corsairs or w/e.Theyre not quite primaris sized, but theyre a clear example of "you can just make stuff bigger and no one cares".
>>98695333You must have not been here when nu-catas got revealed
>>98694754The destroyed dorn and redemptor are my only problem with that box.
>>98695352Only saw some weak cope in the form of>Well at least they're tallerby like, a handful of anons at most. But the rest was remorseless and justified shitting on them. Don't care about the opinions on the normies sites, they will swallow anything regardless.
>>98695342I havnt seen the new corsairs myself, the only csm minis I bought were the legionares. I thought I remember clocking them as the same size as the nuVI. I know the death guard are like half way between nuVI and primaris.
>>98695377Anon the new MK6 are still much bigger than the old size marines primaris were released alongside.
>>98695389Eh I wouldnt say much bigger, they are certainly larger thats a give-in. I made this comparison a while back showing how little you need to upscale an old marine to be exactly in line with the nuscale.
>>98694529Can someone better than I tell me if those are using old scale helmets or nuscale? Can we expect to see something like that when james eventually goes the souring?
>>98695502>when james eventually goes the souringAnon, GW isn't even gonna get to the Siege of Terra.
>>98695479>thats a give-in
>>98695502Matching the bases, those nu mk7 are primaris sized, so should have old scale helmets.
Genuinely would not be surprised if the custodes terminators turned out to be Ai generated, they're so bland and soulless
Phonix worked for me anon.
>>98695735Bullshit Phoenix Wardens don't work for anything
>the raped male returns - to be raped again
Uhhhh magos anons where are our plastic vorax?
>>98695947Ligma balls
>>98695965AAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>98694431I noticed as part of my noticing things that the new primaris marines from the Armageddon starter set have toned down primaris design elements and even included mark 7 styke helmets so my theory was (I guess still is) that is related to firstborn getting squatted. They want them to look more like traditional marines so people put off by Primaris will look on them more favorably and start playing them now instead of no longer collecting marine sloppa.They are paradoxically bridging the gap aesthetically while at the same time nuking OG marines because they want these new primaris to be the universally accepted image of a space marine with no clarification like "primaris" before it like Mk 7 was/still is. >>98695735Phonics worked for everyone. They are the most important tool for learning to read.
>>98696055>They are the most important tool for learning to read.Tell that to the Americans
With the Tzeentch rules out what's the verdict on using the gods from the Ankh board game as demons for a tutelary themed force? They're around the height of a contemptor.
>>98696055Okay but we're still getting mk7 for HH right anon?
>>98696121No, tell that to the Covenant
>>98696055>They are paradoxically bridging the gap aestheticallyThey're backtracking on the aesthetic while stopping just shy of disavowing the look as a mistake to try and keep the appeal up.Same shit 343 did with Halo.
>>98696183You could use exactly one as that tzeentch high command unit. Everything else is way smaller, and the lord of change is way larger.
>>98696371What about Halo? The fact this is the third time they've sold the first game is to me signal that the new shit just didn't take.Turns out building up a trilogy-defining villain only to kill them in a single game (and a comic) wasn't so smart. Three times in a row (Didact, Cortana, Atriox)! Yikes
>>98696536Have they bothered making a PC port of CE that's not borked nor remastered?
>>98696578What was wrong with the original PC version?
>>98696719They fucked the port, resulting in severe downgrade in graphics. They couldn't fix it, because the fix wouldn't required basically to rewrite a huge chunk of the game. And all the following PC versions used this borked port as the base.
>>98696536Specifically what they did with the mjolnir armor. 343 redesigned the armor for 4 and 5 but it looked dumb and different and wrong in most cases so they went back to a more classic design in Infinite to try and make it seem like they were going back to basics.
>>98696578At the very least, most of Gearbox's fuckups were amended in a MCC update years ago.>>98696740>And all the following PC versions used this borked port as the base.Not just that, pretty much every port of Halo CE did.
>>98696371>>98696055they're going back to the early 90s marine aesthetic before everything was covered in 9001 purity seals
>>98693396The lack of plumes is a travesty. Still leagues better than that Allarus shit.
>>98696779Every marine has the same number of purity seals as the proper marines did before, except the captain, who has six.They're trying to mimic the aesthetic they're replacing while only barely passing with the newer intercessors only.
>>98696740Huh. I did play the og xbox version years later and I was like "this looks weird" lol
>>98696783Nah, Allarus are now the better looking ones.And it's a travesty.
>>98696745Oof those newer Spartans look closer to Autobots and Decepticons than to Spartans. Spartan helmets are a baseball cap on top, whiskers at the front, easy as that.But eeeeeveryone wants to leave "their mark", even if it's closer to a shit stain on a toilet. Not unlike MkIII's resculpt. Way to toss an Iconic Look into the trash. That's brand recognition others would give their pinkie finger for!
>>98696801Halo Reach had a positive impact by making more unique armor but, except for the helmets, almost everything was just bits stacked on top of a basic armor package. 4 and 5 tried to make something totally new to represent a newer design philosophy but it was dumb so it didn't work and instead of trying to fix it they just tossed it in the trash and played pretend like they'd never tried it.
>>98696792Allarus barely even look like Terminators to begin with, than just up-armoured Custodes in visuals and even loadout beyond a fucking grenade launcher. Nu-Aquilons have bad poses, but there's still something of a easily readable Terminator silhouette and I don't think their 40k counterparts are posed any better.Much like the rest of their releases this year, I will leave some reservations until somebody makes a more appealing paint job.
Making up a sheet layout for transfer printing is only half as frustrating and annoying as I expected.Am I retarded, Is it common for an on screen page to be the exact same size as the real piece of paper at 100% zoom? I've never noticed but its going to make final sizing much easier.
>>98696858They look like indomitus stl an indian butchered into custodes for 10 ruppes.No, anon, compare them to the resin predecessors. They have the same bullshit problems than coteaz.
>>98696858Allaurs, despite being made before, are actually closer to primaris gravis armor where it's just normal armor with extra plating. The best way to see that is the arms which are regular armors under expanded paldrons. Aquillon terminators have the overweight look in the back with legs that mimic tartaros, the heavy double pauldrons and a helmet that's sunken into the body.The new models might look more terminator that allarus but are so insufficient as to be less desirable than it. You could say Allarus is more Alluring, in fact.
>>98696820Reach built on top of the foundations Halo 3 laid. It may have been the same bits rearranged on top of derivative designs, but you could still recognize them as variations of Mjolnir.
>>98696953Right. Halo 4 started to drift away while still being close enough. Halo 5 was the full departure that fell so flat.
>>98696876I won't disagree that the resin ones look nicer, but I'm not exactly seeing Inquisitor Taco in these guys. That nigga has a power-diaper and his power armour forsakes the pecs and abs for a lot of flatness broken up with weird grooves. Nothing to say of the impaled bird, for that is a different story. Nu-Aquilons do have far more diminished eagle features on the shoulders and mantle, but there's a lot more greeble making it look busier on the front, Coteaz is just smoothed out to an absurd degree. Suffice to say, I don't quite agree with the comparison.Suppose the other thing is that nu-Aquilons have to deal with far less aesthetic customization than even nu-Cataphractii, by presumably having three guys per set of sprues, but the latter too had some awkward bullshit of its own as well with the weapon ones having all the pteruges in different halves. Give & take with every weapon being in the box than a split, I suppose.
>>98696055No not mk7, notice the primaris ear flaps, which the new burner boys don't have.
>>98695479They are bigger, the body, legs and backpack and the pads, the hands are smaller and the head is however.
>>98694917Yes, praise Chong and his recasts.
>>98695502Only horus heresy has the brainlet tiny heads, the 40k CSM and SM have the old big heads.
>>98694431It's very funny when you think about the pure retardation.
>>98696055Eh, it’s really only that one MK7 helmet guy and it looks kinda strange, smushed even, probably cause it still has ‘the ears’ like the rest with the flanged knees as well. Profile is still primar*s to the hiltThese fuckin LotD are straight up big Original Marines. I only just noticed they got Godwin bolters too for Christs sake! If they are planning to swing right back then their timing is malicious and that’s kinda hilarious, in a sick way>>98697366This is the point where I actually believe it’s malice and not incompetence, on their end at least. Why else would it be an army that hasn’t had any love in what-a decade??? I swear there was some 5th ed version of em, correct me if I’m wrong, point is it’s one they know people will buy. That said, if you mean the retardation of the customers still paying these bastards? Endlessly funny, even as one of them
>>98696183Tutelaries are mini-screamers iirc.
>>98693396Look how they turned them ever so slightly so you don't see the huge gap between the arm and shoulder pad and the torso.
>>98693396Did the custodes sculptors just forget how to pose things?
>>98697540Of course they did, that's what happens when you have a generation trained on nothing but primaris CAD slop.
>>98697675I dunno I don't really take issue with primaris poses.
>tfw the joytoy is now better than the real thing
Scouring when?
>>98697740Never
>>98697540This is what DEI gets you. Enjoy the decline.
>>98697740Ashes wasnt even a full year ago which surprised me, thought it was like 2 years already
>>98697474>This is the point where I actually believe it’s malice and not incompetence, on their end at least.Hard to tell, a bit of both maybe. Authors like Mike Brooks and the commie warhammer community guy are definitely doing it out of malice. >That said, if you mean the retardation of the customers still paying these bastards?I meant retardation from the company, I take the retardation of paypigs for granted.
>>98696895I presume the nu-custodes termies are on 40mm as well, compared to the resin 50mm ones.
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>>98698290The top knots really help to save them, but not fully.Their lame poses and small hands are unsalvageable.
>>98698344
>>98698344>>98698504same vibe
By the way the Prospero custodes are officially gone from the store. RIP
>>98698344Indeed.
Wait, I only just realised that are suppose to be solarite power fists and claws they have, not basic gauntlets. Why are those so fucking tiny?
could you make an oil based version of marine juice? I like the colour tone it usesor perhaps use the same method as people use with oil washes? I don't really know how oil and acrylic based washes work differently (other than oil needs thinners to remove)
>>98698290better but still too stiff and still too roundI think of eggs whenever I look at them
Mmh, this looks midly useful for the HH. Does the game still has rules for fortifications?
>>98698807It does. It's just that nobody ever plays with fortifications, so no one talks about it.
>>98698922>>98698922>>98698922
>>98698807It does. But as another anon said no one tends to bring that sort of thing. Terrain in general is a neglected part of the game for most people.
>>98698814If there's any game that can have imperial forts all day long, it would be 30k: No xenos, and half the games are traitors fighting loyalists blocking the way to Terra. The final battle is the most famous siege ever.
>>98699093This is true and all, but most people dont play with fortifications. Several reasons really:Most games are not particularly narrative (sad but true) .Couple with the above point, this means that fortifications cant be a "scenario" thing, you arent playing a game where an inferior force + defensive terrain fight off a stronger attacker force or whatever, the fortifications have to be bought, and people dont tend to run them in their lists.Fortifications as "neutral terrain" is also fairly rare, because terrain tends to be an afterthought and more or less "whatevers available at the place im playing". It doesent help the rules for fortifications are hidden away in the ass end of the legacy pdf
