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When do collage entries stop being accepted? I wanna do this guy for the collage but I need to finish cleaning my room to have space to paint and it's like a mountain of random shit
KINDKOLOSSALKUSTODESKNOCKERS
You're welcome.
>>98697891Sick, yours?
>>98697888You got time until the end of the month to finish that if you want to.
stinky kroot mommylone token auxiliary for a retaliation cadre mobi like the model in the flesh much more than i thought i would
>>98697899Thanks! If it doesn't work out I'll aim for next month, but here's hoping!
>>98697891>some fag on a bangladeshi kite making forum made better lotd minis than GWfunny and sad at the same time
You know I always see the "would renegade marines join the tau" but I feel like ending up as mercs in commorragh would make more sense if marines were going to shack up with xenos. Deldar would have little issue hiring them since they hire many different xenos(and they've worked with marines before), would get consistent work and access to good ftl travel, and have a big enough stick you could probably survive.
>>98697891If this is a kitbash it's sick ad fuck anon. Ty
>>98697897Yep, painted them for the Sept 2025 collage.
>>98697916Noice
What's he thinking about?
>>98697922slaanesh's giant gock
>>98697908Even renegade marines are xenophobic as fuck. They'll never join a xeno faction. That hate is put into them since they're neophytes. Sometimes even opposed marine factions use their common hate of xenos to bond with each other.At best we have examples of CSM like the Red Corsairs using xeno warriors as mercenaries or allies of convenience.
>>98697922>Forgot to close the garage door
the gue'ron'sha yearn for pulse weaponry. the sluts
>>98697930>Even renegade marines are xenophobic as fuck.That is dumb.
>>98697922
>>98697935The galaxy was promised to humanity, this is just a fact of the setting, joining chaos doesn't change this, in fact many chaos xenos got genocided by the influx of chaos marines.
>>98697935No, it is based. Just because you violently disagree with your boss doesn't mean you suddenly no longer hate trannies.
>>98697939>The galaxy was promised to humanityby whombst thoughbeitan absent emperor?
>>98697935Did you expect Chaos to make them more tolerant?
>>98697910Yep, these are just a bunch of firstborn bits with a lot of greenstuff and some freehands.
>>98697922Daemons and their lies
>>98697877I can get base paint from the local hardware stores but there's not really anything modeling I can find locally, it's all artist paint, so I gotta order and I'm gonna snag a couple units before any price hike on the 21st anyways so does anyone have strong feelings about Vallejo and Two Thin Coats? Those are my options because I'm aiming for dropper bottles. There's also Army Painter I can go with which seem popular as a lot of their shades are sold out.
>>98697948no lies detected in pic
>>98697951>no lies detected in pic
This design layout is so much better than current shrimple datasheets it's unreal.
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98697959
>>98697959But where's all the datasheet abilities that could've been keywords? Where's all the rerolls?
>>98697959Maybe for barebones 3rd edition. It falls apart once you need to remember which unit has certain weapons and wargear, or having to keep in mind rules that give modifiers.The new datasheets are much more practical for actual games, even if they remove the lego-like allure of list building and unit design.
>>98697877
What are (You)r thoughts on the upcoming custodes changes? >3 models per unit>8" M>7 T>5 W>2 A ranged/w rapid 2 in 12">6 A melee /w 2 dam
>>98697943No expect chaos to make them to not give a shit.Chaos marines already basically spread their ass for daemons which are basically just interdimensional aliens anyway.Oh but working with regular aliens? That's too far? Yeah, ok.It's like if you wrote a story where some guy was a psychopathic serial killer but then draw the line at breaking open an ATM and stealing money from it.
>>98697978I hope the big armored jerk players like it.
first box everany tip before I screw up my first mini?
>>98697975>model now need a tactical cylinderThis base autism is going too far.
>>98697983THIN YOUR PAINTS.
>>98697922Some cringe shit he did 25 years ago. He doesn't remember the face of his first love, but he remembers dumb crap he did in elementary school.
>>98697978Not really custodes specific but I'm not really a fan of the movement creep going on, especially with how small boards are now.
>>98697888Last day of the month, but we dont know what timezone collage anon lives in so you might have a little more time depending on where you live
>>98697991Gotcha, thanks!
Vintage bros, how's your collage entry coming along?
>>98697981>No expect chaos to make them to not give a shit.Yes Anon you are describing tolerance. Tolerance is not giving a shit, effectively neutrality. They don't even really tolerate normal people anymore.
>>98697983Thin your paints.For your first minis, washes are your friends, highlights are the enemy.Assemble a couple minis, PAINT THEM, repeat. Don't build the grey horde.Godspeed doing the chaos trim.
Holy shit, 320e for this? lmao
>>98697983Thin your paints
>>98698000It's 700 dollarydoos.I honestly thought it was a web error.
>>98697990As an eldar player I'm hoping our base movement goes up to 10" at least to keep pace with the imperium movement creep. Otherwise we will need at least 2-3W to make up for not being the fastest anymore
>>98698000Its 700 AUD here, honestly cant see anyone pay piggying that hard desu, even marine players
>>98697972>falls apart once you need to remember which unit has certain weapons and wargear, or having to keep in mind rules that give modifiers.No because this is a quick stat reference. The wargear is in the armoury and who gets what wargear is in your list. Currently to reference stats you need a dozen datasheets because there's no quick reference like this and stats are inconsistent as fuck.
>>98697988>>98697998>>98698001how thin am I talking about?can I just mix it with water instead of thinner cause I didnt buy thinner also I still cant decide if I want to paint it in black, blue or silveri was going to do night lord since I got the NL box, but someone in my local is already running that
>>98698000pay up marinepiggies OINK OINK
>>98697959>markerlight countersUughhhh........SOVL
>>98698006>700 AUD for a book, some cardboard, and some coinsyou could buy half a knights army for that much
>>98698008no you can't use water, you need to get medium, as for how thin, the consistency of skimmed milk. You want to be able to paint the back of your hand near your thumb and still be able to see the wrinkles
>>98698000£250 lmao
>>98697978Sounds good, especially when they are locked to squads of 3. Gonna make them feel approriately elite with tiny armies.
>>98698008>how thin am I talking about?Normal adcvice is "like milk". You can mix with water, I do.>also I still cant decide if I want to paint it in black, blue or silverWhy not all 3?
>>98698008You want to thin it until it is just smooth enough to not leave any texture, but maintains maximum opacity. Test on a glove or something.Check out the OP in /wip/ >>98689688There's a number of handy tutorials there, including subjects like how to thin paints
>>98698000one of the people i talk to on dickcord simps for me and bought me it AMA
>>98698007Nope, having everything you need about an unit in a single card > having to flip pages of a book or two back and forth.That's unironically something new editions do better than old ones. The problem is that they subvert it later with all the bullshit extra layers of rules (detachment bloat nowadays, special rules bloat back then)
>>98698000what exactly is the point of the metal things?
>>98698027it slots into the book, you got a choice of chapters
>>98698026>having to flip pages of a book or two back and forth.You didn't need to flip anything because all you needed was in the reference sheet and shit eas consistent so you never needed to consult ehich of your heavy bolters is S6 for no reason.>That's unironically something new editions do better than old ones. Absolutely not and I don't understand how GW can brainwash you yo think that forcing you to reference a card for every one of your units is quicker than having a single reference sheet for everything. It literally does the opposite of what you claim.
>>98698031that's insanely retarded, the kind of gimmick you'd see on a children's toy
>>98698027>A set of 6 bronze-finish metal Chapter badges that can be attached to the front cover with magnets>A 100mm by 100mm bronze-finish metal Crux Terminatus badge
>rhino>pre order
>>98698016>you need to get medium no>the consistency of skimmed milk no
>>98698034You'd need to be a special kind of retard to buy a codex. You'd need to be a very special kind of retarded to buy a collector's edition of a codex. Pre-ordering it too? Oh mama.
>>98698036is it an upscaled rhino?
>>98697930Space marines are made to serve the Imperium and HALF of them fall to chaos, having some renoucing their literal xenophobia makes sense
Here are the three sprues of the new intercessor box, since GW doesn't want to do the bare minimum and have them on their webstore.The price is increased and there is one less sprue.
>>98698032The reference sheets didn't tell you the unit's wargear or their special rules, if any. You had to go to open your codex if you or your opponent didn't remember them. Even worse if the codex just referenced wargear and rules from other book (common issue with marines)Modern datasheets are just modernized 2nd edition datafaxes, btw. They're much better for playing. Their only real issue is obtaining them, and how fast they become obsolete.
>>98698044No.
>>98698046what parts are missing from the new box
>>98698059Take a wild guess
>tfw so used to buying models 2nd hand that im not used to seeing actual retail pricesThose new orks are hilariously expensive. Havent seen the prices of the new marines but I can only imagine it to be horrific
my twin lance cost me roughly $3usd and mild exposure to potentially agitating chemicals
>>98697942>by whombst thoughbeitThe nuffle.
>>98698036just buy the HH one
>>98697939is the imperium actually israel?
>>98698066>This model that has been on sales for 24 years is somehow in pre-order again>buy the other one durrrrNigga are you on the spectrum?
>>98698046>powerfist>chainsword>powerswordHey that's pretty cool.But at the same time I hate how I am being vindicated about power weapons being consolidated into a single profile.It's literally nothing but fucking power swords now in most kits.Why can't I have a power axe or a mace?
>>98697989>He doesn't remember the face of his first love, but he remembers dumb crap he did in elementary school.But anon what if I remember my first love, and know if I avoided some of that dumb crap I did in elementary school, she could still be here?
>>98698049>The reference sheets didn't tell you the unit's wargear or their special rulesThe wargear is selected during list building, you don't need to keep looking at it. Special rules were way less frequent and way more standardized so they were easier to remember.
>>98697990having played yesterday with solar spearhead the dreads moving 8 and advancing for up to 15 total movement i really started to feel the small board, only potential downside was that if you're a retard you can overextend but still for the most part hide behind terrain
>>98698068the whole "promised to us" thing is as old as time, it's the basic cult bait mentality, so not surprising that the imperial cult uses it
>>98698070>power axeVanguard vets have a few
*crawls out of the ground in the middle of a battle*
>>98698000>>98698062There *has* to be a limit where the price starts effecting sales right? Like they can't just endless raise prices on everything new they release, right as the world economy is going down the shitter, and be rewarded for it. I have to believe at some point it hits the top of the bell curve and they actually see sales drop.
>>98698078Remember that time one of them parroted the voice of a previous victim to call out her brother and kill him too?
>new intercessor and vanguard vets have separate shin plates>one again the system isn't coherent and so the different kits aren't compatible out of the boxThey are so retarded holy fucking shit, get these faggots some legos
>>98698069Where do you think you are anon?
>>98697978couple of blocks of hellblasters will do them in, not concerned.
>>98698076I know that, but I shouldn't have to buy another kit just to have a power axe for my intercessor sergeant.
>>98697978>squad 3
>>98698079It affects sales already, I'm being pedantic, but if you mean profit, then that's gonna take some time to happen.Why? Businesses have figured out that you can simply milk the common retard who has no standards (money through numbers) and the mentally ill retard /addict who has spending issues (money through constant purchases)The common retard can still be coaxed into paying more as long as you don't disrespect him and he has other people to push him to do those few large expenses. The addict will be milked to death.If you hear people complaining about the prices, you've already hit the stress point, but that doesn't mean it's gonna break.
>>98698008"Thin your paints" is a tired meme, don't worry about it. A lot of paints are plenty thin enough from the bottle, and just mixing in a little water to others while you charge you brush is usually fine. Thinner is for tryhards or youtubers who get sent stuff for free.Most people say "thin your paints" when they see models painted sloppily (often unavoidable when a complete beginner) or with too much paint slapped on (after charging your brush dab it on a piece of paper to remove some of the excess, that way you're less likely to flood the model with thick or thin paint). More important than thinning is patience - one coat isn't going to fully cover most of the time, the answer isn't more paint, but letting the layer dry and coming back to that spot in 2 minutes for another coat. Also rinse and recharge your brush pretty often. If paint isn't coming off the brush smoothly the solution is usually to recharge not add more thinner/water.
>>98698090Ideally you could buy the exact axe you want directly, but I don't mind the old way of buying a specific sgt model, or even buying vets to use as sgts.Would be cool if all options were in the box, especially since for more money you get 1 less sprue.
>>98698036>They thought it was getting refreshedpoor fools
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98698115Next year deldar bro, then you can stop the ritual posts
>>98698115>literal babbys first watercolor tier artyou're really scraping the bottom of the barrel nowadays, eh
>>98698119why are you hating on sovl you poor bastard
>>98698119this fat fuck has no whimsy
Tabletop Tactics paywalling the actual point costs but 2000pts gives you:>Roboute>Calgar, Kaius Konorius - 3 Victrix guard>Chief Librarian Tigurius, Ancient - 10 Sternguard >Bladeguard ancient - 6 Bladeguard >Terminator Captain - 5 Terminators>5 Terminators>Land RaiderWhich is roughly 1875pts in the current codex without enhancements.
So the youtubers have all the new detachments (non codex compliant included) and points stuff already. Why even sell books at this point? It's easier and quicker to get all the info from scruffy randos online and let the list-builder apps update.
>>98698126The art of war channel goes through every single datasheet with points at the end of their 4 hour video
>>98698079Anon, that's a limited edition collector's item, it's pure whalebait. The high cost is a feature. The actual 11th edition codices have gone down in price compared to 10th edition ones.
Quite a hefty increase on Mephiston.
Phobos LT 40 points lol these marines are getting cheaper.
>>98698126>2k>primarch>3 extra special charactersDEATH
Oops, Mephiston here >>98698147
>4 MkVII and 1 MKVI heads in the new Intercessors kitnature is healing
>>98698151larp larp larp
Terminators
>>98698147>the new SM terminators cost less than the current CSM terminatorsHaha good fucking joke, GW.
>>98698000Whale trap, gotta harvest the premium prices from players with more money than sense.That *should* leave them room to lower margins on some other items, but we all know GW prices range from extortionate to merely expensive.
marines are fucking gay
LR redeemer
>>98698155where are the faggots who were desperately trying to convince everybody that the multipart kit wouldn't have grillface heads now?
>>98698153The upgrade from D:d3 to D3 is huge for him though, he's MUCH punchier than before, and probably tanker since a 4++ 5+ fnp vs 5++ 4+fnp is largely a wash and he gained toughness. Interestingly, he also has Transhuman Strategist, didn't expect that for him.
>>98698155The MkX heads are also more varied and not identical
>>98698155>mfw grey hunters have 4 mk7 and 2 mk6They really should have gone further with the customization. They made the greeves and shoulder pads for the whole squad but you got jack shit to pick from.If they added some proper backpack variation and some bolt carbines along the bolt rifle it'd already have been an improvement.Chests are still not swappable, and some of the variation are just "nothing". Intercessors still get mogged by the tactical squad kit 10 years later, this is stupid. Maybe in 10 years we'll get back to 2005 levels.
>>98698167Haha, it went down in points? What the fuck. Surely, SURELY there's some fucker on the balancing team who faps to this thing, that's the only explanation for this thing being as cheap as it is.
He'stan
>>98698167Best vehicle just got betterer
Intercessors 85/170 is kind of nuts. They really need to sell all these new boxes they made.
Intercessor at 90? Think again chuckle fucks.
Hellblasters
>>98698155Would've liked it if they added more varied shoulder pads.The generic "mk4" trimmed shoulder pads are neat but we don't need that many of them.
>>98698141How the heck does a random youtube channel have full points costs?Regardless, cutting an Ancient and 5 Intercessors and I can play my 1k pts list which is good.
>>98698188>stat and weapon buffs>yeah that should be about 5 points
>>98698197They lost the technology in the great copy pasting
>>98698198>best players in the world>random youtube channel
The Lion
>>98697877Custodes would be more interesting if all of them would have been female from the start. Otherwise they are kinda dull.
>>98698205They did lose their sticky objective AND double-shooting rules (their new profile looks impressive at first glance, but it's actually worse than what they had before in many cases), and their leader options are a bit iffy with lieutenants getting markedly worse. So they're not as good in either of their old roles, which was objective sitters (where sticky was a crucial rule) or just throwing out shittons of shots with sus/lethal and full hit re-rolls, which they just really can't do any more because there are no full hit re-rolls and actually getting sus/lethal against all targets is trickier.
I'm surprised the codex is still in stock, I didn't expect marine piggies and scalpers to leave them beCould be because it hasn't gone up in the US tho
>>98698230It's £250 for the super special edition, that price makes people reticent about buying it.
I think marines just take the phobos captain for the 1cp per round because he's the cheapest by far. All the captains are very expensive.
>>98698188this shit is getting errata'ed day 1 gaurenteed. >>98698218>can hit on 2+ through cover by sitting on an objective>but muh sticky!I would say intercessors are making out like bandits getting both a stat and weapon buff for the price of losing sticky and being 85pts for a 5 man.
>>98698233on one hand, yeah, but on the other, we're talking about 40k autists here, marine piggies especially
>>98698230They print a lot because they know they'll sell eventually. £20 for a codex from normal discount retailers feels cheap in 2026.
>>98698236>gaurenteedAlright, calm down buddy.
>>98698233>250 bongbucksanyone buying this shit really deserves james' cock down his throat
can't wait for CSM terminators to get the new combi-weapons and then watch marine players bitch eternally about it as they just deepstrike and delete whatever they're near
>>98698236>>98698241>gaurenteed
>massive point increases for marines!>All 5s and 10s>Lots of units actually went downGo fuck yourself
>>98698245they will fuck us over somehow with it. like maybe not getting new profiles like the sternguard have
>>98698248>massive point increases for marines!You can't possibly believe this.
Maybe they're right. Maybe xenos is where it's at.
>>98698248It's really just terminators. 160 to 190 plus a 10 point tax on cyclone missile launchers. Terminator spam has been the only successful marine strategy in 11th so far.I'm doing up my list now and I might have only lost a couple of trash units, up ~150 points maybe.
>>98698255X marks the spot after all
I like orks :D
>>98698061I honestly couldn't care less ablut losing the shitty tacticool scopes
He looks so happy.
>>98698268yeah that ork sure had a good last krumping
>>98698268>yah, dat wuz a good fite>YAY! I’M NOT A JOBBER ANYMORE I KILLED AN ORK
>>98698268its going to be like the end of jason vs freddy and the ork will wink at the viewer
>sawing off an ork's head with no lack of effort about it using your chainblade to take a trophy>it's just laughing its ass off and grinning right at you the whole time
>>98698265It was a fun feature but I already have enough left over as is.What's more important is that youre paying more for one less sprue.
>>98698268>>98698286This is the least 40k shit I've seen today
>>98698268I'm actually so happy for him I'm about to tear upHe had such a good time, he had such a good krumpin, he will ascend to Gork and Mork with a smile on his face and they will smile upon him with their kunnin and brutal smiles
>>98698288one less sprue yet WAY more customization options so who cares
>>98698291thats your shelf in your bedroom devoid of any 40k miniatures and your internet browser full of 40k lore vids that is the least 40k shit you've seen today
>>98698294They got 10 unique bodies and more varied heads. They lost their bolt rifle variants.
>>98698294>way more customization optionsIs it? More, sure, but "way more"? Not really.>who caresYou don't care about paying 55 bucks for 3 plastic sprues when you could be paying 55 for 4?You do realize that GW didn't do a magic deal with a genie where they had to choose between 3 good sprues and 4 mediocre ones, right? It could always have been 4 great sprues from the get go.
>>98698301¿Qué?
My list has gone up 100 points. I've had worse dataslates that this codex. Infiltrators a lot cheaper (for a much worse unit), Terminators significantly more expensive (for a much more powerful one). Most units up 5-10 points, characters generally cheaper. I'll probably swap infiltrators for max incursors, drop a couple of redundant characters (judiciar) and some sternguard and have some points to spend on enhancements. Not a massive change, army will look almost identical on the table.
>>98698313I guarantee he's going to try and poke holes in your paintjobs now
>>98698277>>98698279>>98698282>>98698291>>98698293How do none of you recognize Ghazghkull?
>>98698313>O'roit ladz, go to da gorkanaut n wroit da most killy and krumpy stuff ya kno'>ORKSORKSORKSORKSORKSORKSORKSORKSORKSORKSORKSORKSORKSORKSORKSORKSORKSORKSORKS
>>98698322That's not ghaz, ghaz's got arms and legs and whatnot, ya git.Next you'll tell me a chair without legs is a chair!
>>98698326>Point costs (after Art of War review)>Epic Characters (Named)>Unit>Generic Characters>Infantry>Fast Attack
>>98698319It's always the same with the "muh nomodels" shitposters and other /wip/ tourists. It's best to ignore them.
>>98698322Honestly, that makes it even more pathetic>behold! my greatest triumph!>now the other chapters won't call me dogfucker anymore!>awoooo with me xisters! UWOOOOOOAnd then Ghazzy just nodiffs being beheaded and says>wut? I got better.
>>98698322Caring for named character shenanigans is the same as being a sportsfag
>>98698313I like your purple n gold lads
>>98698326>Kaius is 100 pointsOh fuck off
Going to build a lotd army.
>>98698322other orks can have eye lenses too you git
>>98698345And it all happened in a fucking official 40k supplement. And AFAIK, off screenThis is why people saying that those are more canon than anything else like BL books should be ignored. Gaming supplements have been just as bad or worse as anything GW makes for decades now.
>>98698326>Only 85 points for a intersesor squadWhat happened to less models lmao
>>98698355dis squigga readin boy's love novels
>>98698322I thought ragnar was a bloody broken mess that had to be dragged away and filled inside out with wolf dildos for the marine reassignment surgery.
>>98698335>and other /wip/ tourists.trying WAY too hard
>>98698357Just the sales speech for the investors
>>98698335>/wip/ tourists>the people who actually play the game are touristsnice bait, post your models
>>98698366He did. Both "died" in that fight and both got primaris reassignment surgery. Though apparently ghazzy's got retconned to just being stapled back onto his previous body according to some other anon.
>>98698357My heavy intersessor are 10 points more expensive
>>98698358Boyz love?Day sure do boss, da boyz love krumpin
>>98698373ntab a lot of /wip/ anons openly admit they only paint and don't play tabletop
>>98698213>335ptsWhat are GW on
>>98698326Have the divergent chapters point costs been posted anywhere?
>>98698379>orkish porn is just gun diagrams and NECROMUNDA TOP TEN BUM FIGHTS playlists pirated by Freebootaz
>>98698380that doesn't make them touristsand they damn sure never stop by this cesspit
>>98698046Oh, we've completely lost the customization freedom of the boltgun scopes and magazines? Thats lame
>>98698383He's 265 now with pretty much the same abilities, after loads of cuts because no one used him. Just 6 wounds and a bit more toughness. People have overreacted to the datasheet like they did ghaz
>>98698389I only paint minis, and have no intention of playing the tabletop, despite that I’ll never go to /wip/ because this is MY cesspit that I love posting in.
Templar bros how we feeling?
>>98698402>because this is MY cesspit that I love posting in.
>>98698367>>98698373>>98698389Since a couple years ago, there's one or more /wip/ refugees fags trying to make this general about ONLY painting models and little else. Just looking into the archive makes it obvious. The "nomodels" spam just didn't exist on the same level. It's all a few discord assholes trying to shutdown discussion about anything they don't like. Specially the lore.Note how the nomodels bs and passive agressive non-40k image spam starts as soon as anons start talking about it. Why? It's obvious.
>>98698403It is what it is
>>98698410trying WAY too hard
>>98698410Nomodels=noopinion It has been this way since time immemorium Now post models or gtfo
>>98698403>>98698412What happened with Templars?
>>98698147fuck yeah, gonna rock
>>98698410lmao, the copes you secondaries come up with to pretend you belong here are really something else
>>98698403have yours gone ? did the numbers hurt you ? where ?
>>98698431The shield on his shield is a bold choice.
>>98698439twice shield of the faithful, crusade ain't got no brakes
At least post the good SW art.
>>98698410this is what schizophrenia looks like
>>98698451>wat da zog is ‘e shootin’ at?
>>98698459The bigger ork who took the photo.
>>98698380Those guys don't shitpost in 40kg though, they post paintjobs in wip.
>>98698410sorry anon.game is enshittified nu-lore is retarded and should be ignoredall that’s left is good models.simple as.
>>98698451You first
Do we have dispositions and what each character can attach to yet?
>>98698451Pic unrelated I assume?
>>98698410Model status?
>>98698472>>98698475>hating on 3rd ed cover art Wew lad
>>98698410Sorry no one cares about your shitty tie-in books, faggolini.
>>98698479>being old automatically makes it good
>>986984793rd edition cover art is kino.EXCEPT for the space wolves one in particular.
>>98698479No, just hating on space furries
>>98698479It's not Gallagher's best work; his Fantasy work is much better imo
>>98698483>contarian view because its a different colour marine :(
>>98698479I don't care that you were twelve when that art came out anon, it looks terrible.
>>98698410bruv you paint or you don't. but i'll take posting minis any day over shitflinging retards
>>98698000Pay piggy is back on the menu boys
>any mention of space wolves>5 posts in 1 (one) minute There's gotta be a discord tied to this thread. Its basically dead at these hours.
See what I mean, anons?There's a clique of terminally online discord glue sniffer fags monitoring this general 24/7. And they'll shit on and mass report anything they don't like, because they see this place as their properly.>>98698492The mini posting is an excuse to shitpost, anon. And no sane adult with a job would like to see their minis link them to this place. Way too risky unless you're a thirdworlder. I for sure don't despite having tons of stuff I could post.>>98698499of course there is. The coordinated attacks are fucking obvious. I'm even convinced they post the SW cringe shit themselves to have an excuse to shitpost.
>>98698499I just like making fun of them. its not that deep.
>>98698499Did you ever consider that multiple people can come to the logical conclusion that that artwork isn't very good, and that "but it came out when I got into 40k" isn't a good defense of it? It's okay to have a nostalgic attachment to things that kinda suck by the way; it's normal. I love the 1986 Transformers movie, I watched the VHS tape so many times as a kid I literally wore the tape out. It's still a bad movie, I can admit that.
>>98698514Yeah after tonight, and that melty from the femboy admech player the other day I wouldn't say you are wrong.Watch, we will both get outed as the "decalfag". Think I'll just post on /WiP/.
>>98698044Are genuinely retarded?
>>98698514>thinking theres a discord who’s gangstalking this thread>thinking posting your minis will automatically result in doxxingwow, two schizo delusions in one post!
>>98698528It absolutely fine to hate artwork or models. But pretending it isnt because it's a space wolf artwork is just silly anon. No other art posted would get that type of reaction.
>>98698514>when multiple people agree with me, that's just reasonable people coming to a common consensus>when multiple people disagree with me, that means there is a conspiracy of discord users who are gangstalking me at every momentYou know you are literally theorising about conspiracies, right?
>>98698538Yeah bro it's totally because he's a SW and not because he looks like he got kicked in the balls with a retarded haircut. Like be fucking serious with yourself, man.
>post shitty old art of spacewolf to bait retards into replying>spin replies into a grand conspiracy theory>chuck a melty anyways ??? you had them hook line and sinker
>>98698514Just look at this random /40kg/ thread from 2014: > https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/33606909/Note how nobody is asking for models every 5 posts, or shitflinging everytime somebody talks about the lore of a faction.Or how there are more 40k than non-40k images.See the difference? That's what the discord attention whores currently parasitizing this general doesn't want you to know.It's them and their repulsive behaviour who do not belong here.
>>98698395Sternguard and RG upgrade sprue still have them, wonder if the phobos stuff will lose it when they get remade>>98698410Looking way too hard into the "post model" thing, it's just faggots who don't want to argue the point.
Nowadays, most paint schemes for Nurgle Daemons use white basecoat, followed with green, yellowish brown or creme speed paint and drybrush/highlights. Do you guys have any idea how to paint them quickly but with black base? I was thinking about drybrushing them extensively with white first and achieve a darker tone this way but I started to wonder if washing them with a dark wash and then simply follow with purple drybrush wouldn't give interesting results as well.
>>98698543>Still dodging the accusation of posting anything to do with wolves is "discussed" WAY more than anything else in this thread.Funny thing is I've posted older artworks of different factions, good ones, bad ones. Still none get the same response of a space wolf one, rather good or bad. But yeah, dead hours in this general and it gets that type of response? I'm sure that's orangic lmao.
>>98698545no anon, he’s not trolling. he genuinely believes that art looks good.
>>98698546Is this a known discord you're referring to, or are you just assuming that one exists? IMO it seems pretty clear that you are part of the problem, you are getting hostile and conspiratorial over people criticising something that you have nostalgia for.
>all this deflectionHuh so schizoanon was right? Lmao surely there are better things to do then police a /tg/ thread.
I keep buying cheap models but I haven't built any of them
>>98698546nta but what I notice is>Baitfaggotry is a little less pronounced>A lot more questions are being asked>The thread seems to roughly keep up with the edition/topicIt's better, but the only current threads can be made better is if mods finally get to nuke baitniggers and other trolls
>>98698451Why does the space wolf look like a monkey?
>>98698575snowniggers
>>98698572Nothing will ever be the same on 4chan.Ban evasion and phone internet access has just crippled moderation on this site. Case in point, Decalfag.
>>98698307>They lost their bolt rifle variants.There's still clear variants in the box, you just don't have the retarded "lets put in 10 different receiver variants into the box to take up space"What GW should have done with the 4th extra sprue is to put special weapons into the intercessors kit + some extra customization bits.
>>98698566>you’re calling a schizo retarded, so he must be rightthis is a literal kafka trap btw.
>>98698514you think people care that much ? a stalker or two but who cares about bumfuck mac cunt who post his toys herethis miniature is displayed in a store and used for tutorials, ain't no one who ever gave a shit
>>98698578Best solution I could find is instaban on posting certain images or phrases. Ignoring this kind of shit doesn't matter when half the thread is this retardation.
>>98698581Nah, there was exaggerations already and claiming me to be hostile, when reading any of my posts proves I haven't been remotely antagonistic.Idk man if you want this thread have it. It doesn't matter at the end of the day, does it?
>>98698514They've used a land raider t-shirt twice.
>>98698578>Ban evasion and phone internet access has just crippled moderation on this site.I think they should start unironically range banning whole regions.Like genuinely range ban all of south america, africa, india, middle east and finally california.I think that might help with the moderation.
>>98698592Can start by rangebanning USA
I need to take an updated pic with all the other Vashtorr forces I have kitbashed.I hope we get some more badmech related things some day
made this
>>98697922Troonstodes
>>98698589>reading any of my posts proves I haven't been remotely antagonistic.>>98698514>discord glue sniffers>they’ll shit on and mass report anything they don’t like>mini posting is an excuse to shitpost>no same adult with a job would post minis>if you post minis you must be a third worlder>coordinated attacksthere’s also the heavy implication you’ll be doxxed by other anons if you post minis.seems pretty antagonistic to me bro. >man if you want this thread have it.you know what, if you thinking me and a bunch of other anons owning this thread will get you to stop posting, then sure. I am the leader of the discord, and you aren’t welcome here unless you post models. now fuck off.
>>98698313>Deffskulls Based
>>98698609Lookin good, anon. How many points total do you have now if this is an old photo?
be honesthave you ever bought the physical codex?
>>98698609>four arms>big tail>purpleHEY! WAIT A MINUTE!
>>98698627each one for the armies I play. who doesnt?
>>98698627I’m going to buy one today because I promised an anon I’d show if its lore heavy or not.
>>98698613None of that was me. That was a different anon, once again though. Thank you for proving my point with another baseless accusation at me all because I thought the posting here was a little weird. I'll leave you with my personal favourite art from games workshop, Enjoy your thread.
Funny how nostalgia fags now agree the firstborn looked like shit compared to the new models after they finally got a taste of what we Primaris had for the last decade.
>>98698650>after they finally got a taste of what we Primaris had for the last decade.What do you mean?
>>98698650My issue with the flames is that they will be incredibly frustrating to paint. Not hard, just annoying.
>>98698613>ban evader phone shitposter>attention whore>avatarfagging
>>98698632I wonder how this would look without the pipe.t. professional tactical rock hater>>98698650And everyone on the bus clapped
>>98698613Has anyone ever actually been doxxed from posting models here? I've only seen it happen once and I've been posting here for over a decade. The only time I've seen it happen is the ben schizo, but that was a case of genuine mental illness. Outside of that, the mutant comes close, but that's entirely self-inflicted because he won't fucking leave and posts way too much personal identifying information constantly, in true lolcow fashion. Basically just don't be mentally ill I guess.
>>98698650You okay there buddy?
>>98698655Easy peasy compared to freehanding the flames imo
>>98698650>finallyHH has had upscaled old marines for years now. Dunno why the vocal primaris haters don't just use those, especially when they're insane value.
>>98698554>orangic
>>98698661I've seen people from my LGS post their models here which is pretty wild.
>>98698656see >>98698610
>>98698627I bought the code with dirt cheap price from my friend.
>>98698661Ben
>>98698665Depends on how good you are at painting. If you want to add the shade around to flames to show a light source then these will be utterly awful.Freehanding flames isn't too hard, give it a try you'll be suprised.
>>98698668You sure it's them, might just be stolen pics reposted.
>>98698678Yeah you could be right, I did see the exact same image on the LGS discord around the same time so it's a strong possibility.
>>98698666Because they just want to complain. They don't actually care about firstborn, they just hate primaris.
>>98698661Yes. It's easy to find the same models posted on reddit, B&C, dakka, and FB. And then you have them.You're very new and naive if you think otherwise.Fortunatelly the best modelposters are actually pretty chill, unlike the attention whores and discord trannies shitposting about it all the time.
>>98698655I kinda hate weapons with flame effects stuck on em for that exact reason. I'd rather just stick with the tried and true wash gradient heat-distressed metal effect to show that my flamer regularly spits metal than have to deal with some chunky flames sticking out of it. Partially because I'm a shitter and partially because I think the flames look kinda dopey more often than not.
>>98698656I’ll have you know, I phonepost because I’m a lazy fuck and not because I need to ban evade. also, I really like that erebus picture, so I use it as a reaction image to portray smugness or contempt.
>>98698650Might buy these to use for my Salamanders. I'm not sure if it'd look good but the fire would look pretty cool on them.Like their armors contain a power field generator that creates flames on their armor.
>>98698668Well yeah but you never posted their name and address to fuck with them in here. It's definitely not hard to doxx someone from a model post here if you really wanted to, but nobody actually does it. It's basically a fake concern.>>98698685Again, not saying you can't do it, I'm saying no one actually does it because the average anon here isn't a mentally ill retard with an axe to grind.
>>98698661someone posted my reddit here once but im not a retard that has his irl socials linked so I dont give a shit lmao
>>98698661This thread is probably okay but the AoS guy who hovers around threads on /v/ is 100% trying to dox people via pics.
>>98698692Yeah I wouldn't want to do it, I think there's always a risk to some degree but there's quite a few dots that'd have to be connected. I guess don't make it worth someone's while like the special posters here.
>>98698695Why are you posting your shit on /v/? Keep /tg/ in /tg/, retard.
>>98698621Thanks anon, I appreciate it.I think it's 3 kill teams I added to it since.Dark Commune, Accursed cultists and the Beastmen all with tech mutations.Also a daemon engine shark lobster thing It's probably about 750 in total?
>>98698682I mean, it's a pretty simple line of thinking>take picture of model>post to location A>post to location B I've certainly posted pics of my gunpla to 4chan and discord simultaneously, some people have even noticed before.
>>98698650The metal ones looked better.
>>98698685>and then you have themyou have their social media account that isn’t linked to any personal information*
>>98698685>Fortunatelly the best modelposters are actually pretty chill, unlike the attention whores and discord trannies shitposting about it all the time.I think some model posters, not all, some, here are shitposters too, they are just smart enough to not post their models elsewhere and don't fall for the "post models" bait.
Huh, THESE guys are sold in 10s? Surprising for a heavy weapons unit
>>98698710I post models and shitpost "post models" btw
>>98698712sadly they’re cursed. anyone who picks up a box will never be able to fully finish them.
>>98698692>the average anon here isn't a mentally ill retard with an axe to grind
>>98698712'Cause they are kind a mid.
>>98698713Cool?
>>98698713same, though I genuinely like to see models other anons have painted, so I intentionally bait them into posting models to satisfy my desires.
>>98698712hopefully they get remade into a proper special weapons team, not just plasma
>>98698717It never ceases to amaze me how many mid units space marines have that other factions would kill to have an equivalent of. Same for detachments, but at least that's getting curved for now. But space marines have so many variant options that even good units get overshadowed by excellent ones all the time.
>>98698691Yeah they would look cool as salamanders
>>98698687Neat metal effect, looks close to the real thing, definitely stealing it.>>98698661I scrub the metal data off my posted pics and I haven't played a game in person so I'm not worried, yet. I just KNOW one of you fuckers goes to one of two LGS in my city. I've chanced into the stores during game night to pick up some more supplies and overhearing some of the conversations, definitely one or two post here.
>>98698778>I scrub the metal data off my posted picsI assume you mean metadata, but you know that 4chan does that automatically, right? It's the reason why a bunch of pics get rotated for no reason.
>>98698650>nostalgia fags now agree the firstborn looked like shitI don't agree to any of the shit you say you blithering AIDS-ridden phoneposter
>>98698782I've never believed it, why wouldn't they just save the metadata as they scrub it in some database to sell or keep the feds off their backs? I mean, anyone who wants to know already knows each posters details, but at least, why make them making money (by selling your data) easy? T. Schizo who keeps getting vindicated
I’m a Nobz main in KT day 0. They’re perfect.
To the ork lads who've had a chance to play 11th with their codex, how good are burnas in Boyz squads? I got plenty of Big Shoota/Rokkit boys to throw into lists but I don't really want to go out of my way to track down some Burnas for them too.
>>98698655Just base coat the flames white
>>98697983>>98698008Wet your brush tipA REAL tip would be that you should do a test model first to see how badly you fuck up so you can steadily improve the subsequent models, the mistake I see "first time here" posters make is they shittily paint 10 models and then are like "fug :D". It's easier to fix problems when only one model looks like shit, instead of 10.Also if there's a gw nearby maybe go there and ask for one of those free space marine test models.
>cyclone missile launchers are only +10 points???
>>98698000>>98698003PAY UP PIGGIES
>>98698025is he gay or are you just a womanAre you even a hot woman or is this a "ugly nerd online becomes princess for uglier nerds"?
>>98698666I did buy the 30k models and noe GW squatted all my tacticals, devastators, eviscerators and special weapons on my assault squads, vindicator, whirlwind and predators. I'm not really happy about it
>>98698826We can't make marinepiggies buy less plastic or else the entire British economy collapses, please understand
I’m so excited to just get my head staved in by marine players. Anything for my protagonists!
>>98698835Not the point, even at +10 points they still mog over the assault cannon and heavy flamer. This things used to cost like 40 points in 9th.
Is /yourdude/ helmeted or helmet-less?
>>98698837You thought GW was gonna make marines more elite by making their armies smaller? They are just gonna make every other army bigger.
>>98698831Nah, gay, some people just like simping for the same kind of people they would shove in lockers back in highschoolMy only issue is that i need to find an excuse for why I bought the overpriced codex I wouldn't have gotten otherwise lmao
>>98698826Yeah it's dumb. My problem with the new SM codex is that it might (I'm not even sure on that) be less lethal to other elite armies, it certainly is MUCH more lethal to T4/T3 armies. Armies with 15+ units didn't care so much about oath, since only one unit could be targeted at a time usually, and it's not like Marines needed Oath to kill T3 stuff anyways. With the datasheets getting way better and Marines getting only 5-10pts increases it really blows for T3/T4 army enjoyers.
>>98698841helmetless, because I am capable of painting faces
>>98698848Are you a hot gay or is this an "ugly gay getting uglier gays to simp for them" situation.
>>98698856>is into 40k>posts on 4chan
>>98698046But you have more parts and options now
>>98698856I'd like to think I'm hot>>98698859I'm here because i'm autistic, not ugly
>>98698841All my lads are helmetless with one exception
>>98698826Assault cannons are really good already. I wouldn't have been shocked if they didn't charge a premium for missiles at all.
>>98697922He's rocking to some music.
>>98698870But.. why? It looks weird outside of hairy SW or Alpha Legion clones
My new 2k list would have cost 1830 before. I'm down a full squad.
>>98698860Not really, the leader got more options but that's about it. You actually got less shoulder pad variety than the old intercessor kit.The helmets got an upgrade, but then the bolter customization and the choice of pouches/holsters disappeared.It's an okay-ish upgrade, but not worth paying more for less plastic
>>98698875The heads are the only things he finishes painting.
>>98698410>Specially the lore.Discussion of what lore?
>>98698875Because that's the rule I set for myself when starting this army
oi did up me fackin' gunpla innitgoddamn i love this fucker, two more are in the cards for sure
>>98698826...meaning GW considers them worth 10-points more than the OTHER heavy weapon options it is competing with because they price the unit assuming you will take oneI was really disappointed to learn that the promise of wargear costs returning was almost a complete lie, and once again you will have situations like a guard player deciding if he wants to have to resolve four different sets of attacks every time he has a guardsman squad shoot or if he wants to pass up loads of extra firepower he is still paying for
>>98698895groovy>mfw the boobin titties
>>98698896>the promise of wargear costs returning was almost a complete lieThey never promised it would be widespread.
>>98698855>mfw can barely paint faces for shitI know it's because I almost never paint skin but I'm still butthurt about my incompetence.
>Space Marine Collectors edition codex is 700 aussie dollarsLmao GW really views the 40k community as paypigs I think. This is actually insane.
What is the biggest funny the =][= ever did and got away with?
>>98698841I like the idea of minis having face, but I like helmets more and it annoys me heavily to see unhelmeted warriors go into battle for no reason at all. So I recently figured out that, if making a helmetless guy I always try to have him/her carry his helmet or have it discarded on the ground because it was damaged or something like that as a compromise
>>98698870I hate it, but I appreciate it. I generally only give certain my veterans and leaders the right to go into battle without a helmet.
Are you ready???
>>98698841Helmeted, I prefer helmeted look more.
>>98698841Helmets look cooler.
>>98698942I can't wait for people to tell me how much they always loved DA and just so happened to decide to start an army of them now.
So why did Ork points go up more than Space Marine points did?I thought they said they wanted to make Space Marines more elite. Once codex creep sets in they're going to have to start cutting marine points and they're just going to get less and less elite over the course of the edition like usual. Starting with already low points is going to literally turn them into a horde army.
>>98698983The Iron Hands method.
>>98698989Partly because Orks were already dominating 11th and already needed points increases. Marines are below 50% winrate and entirely mediocre apart from terminator spam.
>>98699000Codex Space Marines are bad, but Dark Angels are insane right now. And this so going to make them a lot worse.
>>98698923>British empire bleeds its penal colony for all its worth A tale as old as time
>>98698989Could be they motivate people to buy more marines than they'll actually be able to use post nerf
>>98698989Because Marine players will squeal and strip stores of all the good units which will bump GW’s shareholder profit.
>>98698926Kryptman gets a bad rep from retarded newfags who don't read the lore, he literally saved Humanity from the nids when he did the Octarius thing. It was probably the single greatest and most heroic act of one human being in the entire universe canon.
>>98698983I’m so glad all my Deathwing Terminators are from Dark Vengeance when I first started the game.
>>98698153Interestingly no hazardous on the supercharged plasma pistol profile.
Now that the Legion of the ZAMNED have frame-mogged primaris cringercessors to death, what's next for the chaddening of space marines?
>>98699017I have noticed (as a Canadian who travels frequently) that Canada actually gets pretty favorable pricing relative to the US with exchange rates taken into account.
>>98699036Grog slop
>>98699036Generic firstborn, or at least a firstborn squad that I won't have to scrape the flames off and refill chinks with putty.
>>98698650You are literally agreeing with what all the firstbornfags have been saying. They wanted new firstborn sculpts at the new scale, not changed designs.
>>98699015Terminators got the heaviest points increases in the book. Not seen the Deathwing stuff yet, but a 20% increase on normal terminators, a 40 point tax on the 3rd unit, plus having to pay for missile launchers is meaningful.
>>98699036Add in couple of more buzzwords and maybe you'll get there
I started in 10th and I think the truescale firstborn look cooler than the primaris.
>>98699061I started in 2nd and I think primaris look cooler than upscaled firstborn.
What's with the low effort bait?
>>98699036gravslop getting moved to Legends and replaced with refreshed vindicators and predators
>>98699039>>98699051the primarisissies are not taking this well lmao! in their jewish arrogance they were so certain we'd be seeing shitmaris design elements all over the LoTD. Now that James Workshop pulled the rug out from under them they are stumped!
>>98698410Just buy and paint a box of msrined then you can shitpost in peace
>>98699039Grog gem, will also outsell primaris by 9000%
>>98699045>>98699071>>98699061Inshallah brothers, even one of the newfags has taste, 40k is healing.
>>98699072You'd think the primarisfags would begin to catch on that GW isn't even releasing any new units for them at all, they're just remaking ones that already exist. Look at the new 11th kits - Eradicators but with a gun swap, still the same unit with the same name. Intercessors but with more old armour pieces/helmets, Vanguard Veterans which is a firstborn unit, the bikers that already existed since 9th, Land Speeder instead of more Stormspeeders. When is the last time GW even invented a new Nounverbinator with Cawl-pattern Stormsynonym autocarbines? I think Primaris are done for.
>>98699078I’m will eagerly await all the painted boxes posted here.
Nothing on chaos marine updates yet?
Bait slop
>>98699094updates like that
>>98699094They'll drop some pdf for you guys when the Marine codex is out but don't expect it to have serious thought-out improvements until you get a codex.
>>98699036They never said those marines are Firstborn, I will bet you they will be primaris just using older mark parts.Dread the size test and pray they are a head shorter.
>>98699094They'll get primaris added to their kits to show GW is finally getting rid of primaris, which has caused bunch of them to defect to chaos side.
>>98699098*updates like What
>>98699100>They never said those marines are FirstbornThis retarded blind nigger doesn't have eyes lmao.>Dread the size testAnon that doesn't mean anything, all marines are getting upscaled, primaris are no longer significantly taller, that was retconned.
>>98699100>>98699107>1 minute apart
>>98699107Primaris are in lore taller.Again, not once was anything said about those legionaries being firstborn.
>>98699094Gw has been annoyingly quiet. I do wonder if Venom crawlers are gonna go up in price since they'll be killing the same amount of Marines even with the toughness increase.
I hope GW reveals those female marines they've been working on in secret.I hope they take some ques from female stormcast and make female marines look feminen.
>>98699113>Primaris are in lore taller.No one cares about ignorable lore, we're looking at miniatures>Again, not once was anything said about those legionaries being firstborn.So you're a total newfag who doesn't know anything about LOTD lore at all? They existed before Primaris and don't make new ones. They are fucking warp ghosts lmao.
>>98699100They're supposed to be ghost marines that have been popping up since long BEFORE Primaris marines were created? Duh
>>98699113>legionariesThis is just confirms that LotD are chaos shit.Only chaos marines are called "legionaries"
>>98699124Everyone knows you get taller when you become a ghost.
god, I love Tau
>>98699104The stat changes they said would happen in the original marines announcement. The same paragraph that said non-codex compliant chapter and grey knights would get adjusted.
>>98699123>I hope GW reveals those female marines they've been working on in secret.Anon the set of heads they released at the end of last edition was going to be the female marine reveal and they canceled and walked it back and just pretended all those heads were men. It's over. Woke lost. I don't know how many times it needs to be explained to you guys that when fully new army lines come out those have been in development for like 5 years, so pointing at hilarious dumb wokeslop like the new Dwarves with their fat stronk wamyn warriors as a sign of things to come doesn't work, it's a sign of what GW was doing 5 years ago before the left got mauled in the culture war. Anything in development right now is chudded the fuck out.
>>98699071Those grace tanks are so shit. No idea why GW wants them gone for SM armies when new rhino chassis vehicles look great in sisters.
>>98699132which always really bothered me since not all Chaos Marines are actually from a legion
Eat shit firstbornfaggots, these are PRIMARIS
>>98699140Many (are not) saying this.
>>98699142Probably the same time they officially release new point costs, not when they get leaked
>>98699144>buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzwordpersonally i dont give a shit, if i want fem-marines i can just print heads out
>>98699144>Anon the set of heads they released at the end of last edition was going to be the female marine revealNo, it wasn't.None of those heads are female. They are all dudes, you're just jumping at shadows.
>>98699150No they're Firstborn but taller which is exactly what we asked for. You can call them whatever you like but the armour is pandering to me, a firstbornfag, it is exactly what I wanted. I won.
>>98699150Chaos Marines are also that tall now though?
>>98699124>>98699128Where do you get this from that LOTD doesn't add new marines?Let me guess, our of your ass.
>>98699147Sorry the CSM fanbase/community/true fans had this discussion ad infinitum after the gav dex. We want the Legions, we want the baseline to be Legions, the renegades are part of CSM but they are NOT the default and we do not want them to be either.
>>98699150>they even reused a primaris pose meaning it is a primaris skeleton inside that model>long bolt gun too making it look like a pseudo bolt rifleIt is 100% a primaris.
>>98699163They are not though even thought the should be lore wise.
>>98699177>even thought the should be lore wise.No, they shouldn't be.CSM are all firstborn and all firstborn are midgets.
>>98699167The idea of lotd getting new marines is fanfiction to begin with.Even the alleged inclusion of ferrus amongst them is headcanon and the writer was explicit in saying he didn't mean to make any connection between them when he wrote the text in question.
>>98699161You wokies lie about literally everything and are never convincing when you post this obvious cope. You lost lmao. We successfully bullied GW into canceling female marines, into no longer even showing female heads on any of their Custodes models during the Custodes previews and releases, and into working on new Armageddon Steel Legion (the actual Guard Regiment based on Nazi Germans, despite historylets thinking it's Krieg), and as soon as this new Age of Sigmar dwarf army flops super hard it's going to be the deathblow of woke model releases. The future is bright and far right.
>>98699168I'd mind less if the renegade marines they actually released not long ago were clearly meant to be generic renegade marines to cover that whole diaspora, but they're not, they're detailed to lock them in specifically as Red Corsairs
>>98699163They’re not as tall as Primaris chads outside their special boy elite units.
>>98699183Primaris was just an excuse to refresh the line and explain the height update, and I say this as a primaris fanGive it a year and they'll retcon the fact that primaris are taller and they'll only consider the organ upgrades canon
>>98699183CSM have always been described as being bigger due to chaos shenanigans.They should be closer to Primaris than Firstborns.
>>98699183>CSM are all firstbornwhat?
>>98699167>doesn't add new marinesBecause they literally aren't marines, they are warp ghosts. They are effectively Imperial Daemons. There is a spooky skeleton inside the armour that is on fire. There is no gene-seed, there are no aspirants and no surgeries and no organs to implant.
>>98699144It was just a pack of heads. GW even released bunch of bare heads for Horus heresy too.That "kit" was just a 40k version of it.Female marines are 100% in the works and being revealed at the end of the edition and they will be taking ques from female stormcast, ie. wear same style marine armor but they are slimmer and have an obvious boob plate/boob slope.Source?I have seen them.
Someone brought it up last thread, but I didn’t see it till a few minutes ago while catching up, but The Red Terror is fucked. They keep releasing new Kill Teams on schedule but aren’t giving us the solo Red Terror model because the mold has a critical design failure.Also since GW likes to never admit failures or mistakes publicly, they will never admit it, or give us an ETA on a new mold and a new line of Red Terrors.Basically this sprue doesn’t have proper outflow or something, and it’s having trouble pressurizing the section where part 14 is, so you’re having an incomplete fill on this little arm with a gross texture and soft plastic.
>>98699198Primaris are too pure to ever fall to chaos don't you know
>>98699199They have marine souls though, any dead marine can potentially be manifested as a LOTD legonarie, so naturally can slain Primaris.
>>98699204I genuinely wouldn't care about it if I got the sprue like this.
>>98699204I was about to call you a schizo and remind everyone that the Red Terror release is probably just being saved for the Tyranid Codex but last line + pic, you must be onto something if this is a repeated problem showing up across many of the kits. They will fix it eventually though.
>>98699146>why GW wants them gone for SM armies-Money by forcing marinefags to buy new tanks-Social engineering push away from SoB as just "female marines" by giving marines a new product line to have an entirely different on-table army instead of just the infantry-Further separation of armies into tiers and design languages from the on-field units; Guard at the bottom, SoB in the middle, Marines at the top (we don't talk about Custodes)That's about all I can drum up in the minute or so I thought about it waiting for my captcha.
>>98699209yeah but there were space marines that fell to chaos between the heresy and primaris.A lot of space marines fall to chaos and become CSMs.
>>98699211>any dead marine can potentially be manifested as a LOTD legonarieno, the only marines who get to be lotd are the ones who were in the warp accident with them
>>98699211Primaris don't have SOVL though
>>98699202Lmaooo sure bud!
>>98699188>You wokies lieWho? And what lie?None of the heads are female, GW never said they were in anything would've been. And none of them look like female heads either, they are all male heads. You are just jumping at shadows seeing things what you want to see because you have a confirmation bias.>We successfully bullied GW into Into doing nothing. Female custodes being revealed literally did nothing to GW only people who got their panties in a twist over it was twitter. Which doesn't matter because twitter gets its panties in a twist over everything.>into working on new Armageddon Steel LegionAnon, those steel legion models have been works for years based on the fact they have sketches at all.Only reason why GW used cadians and krieg in the trailer is because they are lazy and cheap as fuck and they already had cadians and krieg mdoels made for 3D animation videos.They are not gonna bother making steel legion dudes for some 1 minute trailer that will never be reused again anyway.
>>98699150Picture unrelated?
>>98699224Neither do the new legion of the damned. They look lifeless and still. Soulless.
>>98699235>GW never said they were in anything would've beenYou're crying so badly at the keyboard you can't even type a coherent sentence lol. Yeah no shit GW never said they were female, because the decision to cancel their reveal as female space marines was made before they showed us those sprues.
>>98699215From what I heard it’s like most of them. A lot of people just assembled, primed, and didn’t notice it, or thought they spilled plastic cement on it until people started talking. They need to redesign and c&c a new mold so it doesn’t happen again. It could be as simple as rearranging the parts on the sprue, or there could be some bizarre torrential effect happening in that part that makes them need to go back to cad and resculpt it.
>>98698550You can drybrush green from purple. You can even go all purple with white zenithals and apply green contrast and it will give nice green recesses because of how green and purple interact.
>>98699217If they did we’d have Primaris CSM and we don’t.
>>98698000It's a fucking rulebook that you can just lookup online stats for
>>98699282 CSM chads welcome our Primaris Brothers.
>>98699204there's a part on each sprue where there's a bunch of little pips, usually next to the copyright symbol. that tells you how many iterations that current mold has gone through, do you have a picture of how many pips are on that sprue? most molds have about 6 pips.
no primaris marine has ever fallen to chaos
>>98699242>Vast female Space Marine conspiracy that no-one had evidence of despite how leaky of a company GW is.
>>98699293For now, but when they do they'll look cool as fuck.
>>98699294You are being trolled. Stop responding to the troll
>>98699150HH baby hands confirmed. It's Joever.
>>98699294>>98699305You blind?
>>98699293>>98699296A whole crusade fleet of primaris fell to khorne
>>98699320post official artwork or models depicting such a thing or it never happened
>>98699314point to all female faces
>>98699324they're -all- female faces anonit's 2026 ;^3
What the fuck, I thought Beast Snaggas were wearing bone armor and bits, but when I zoomed on em they all have scrap metal armor with beast hides and even cyvernetics.I thought they were supposed to be the primitive Orks??
>>98699291Naw it’s not mine, just one of the ones I grabbed off Google. Most people just built it without paying attention, or didn’t bother to take a pic.
>>98699329You thought wrong.They're traditionalist orks in the sense that they like hunting, and in particular hunting big game, instead of having any sort of battle tactics or enjoyment in fighting soldiers.They prefer steeds to bikes and vehicles and melee to ranged, but will still use ranged weapons with no less hypocrisy than a hunter using a rifle.By "big game" they mean both monstrous creatures AND big tanks and mechanical walkers.They have a larger percentage of prosthetics because hunting monsters means getting your limbs bitten off more often, apparently.
>>98699329they’re ork larpers like blood axes are, but instead of poorly larping as ‘umies they poorly larp as feral orks.
>>98699195WE and EC are primaris sized my guy
Everyone here is hyped for the Legion of the Damned kilt team right?I saw some larpers pretending that they weren’t and I just wanna make sure none of them are in this thread
>>98699310Well damn.Now is that guy just really tall or has really small hands?
>>98699349>getting 'hyped' for kitsNo, we are not children
>>98699329>I thought they were supposed to be the primitive Orks??No you fucking retard. They were never feral Orks. They're Ork Big Game Hunters.
>>98699324There's like 5 of them clearly femaleLook at the first row 2, 7 and 8 for example
>>98699349Let's just say I'm expecting the fecalfag to paint his hellblasters before any of the terminal online autists who have continous arguments about firstborn and primaris, does end up posting pictures of their lotd converted into primaris-scale tacticals.
>>98699358A whimsyless existenceSad beyond words
>>98699349>Everyone here is hyped for the Legion of the Damned kilt team right?I haven't seen this much hype on the internet for a marine release in like 10 years
>>98698997I like Iron Hands and I will never start an Iron Hands army, so everyone knows I'm a legit IH fan and not some metachasing poser. ;^)
>>98699336permanent means permanent
>>98699324Quit pretending. This is an escher head with the mohawk shaved off. It is almost identical.
>>98699362Why would you run conversions on it it already looks cool?That’s a ton of extra work when most of the work has already been done for youIt’s a cool looking kit by default
>>98699349No, not really.They look great but they're just 10 guys at the end of the day.If they came with a Dreadnaught and Bike kit I would be more excited.
There were footprints this time and I got pretty much tabled after a turn 2 waaaargh so no point taking photosHe can shoot me here though right since I know footprints are infinitely tall but the front of the bike can see the hand, -1 to hit since I'm obstructed
>>98699363you can be happy without going giddy over [corporate product]
>>98699374>Legion of the Damned CastaferrumI would cum gallons
>>98699372lol that's just an Asian
>>98699359Chill faggot, I'm not an Orkfag they just looked like they were wearing bone since they had the armor painted white and connected to fur and beasthide
>>98699382>asian>with thick lipsIt doesn't even look remotely asian, there are asian heads at the bottom with the skinny eyes and they are completely different
What would 40K look like if all armies got the same attention as marines did from the get go?
>>98699385You're not people, you don't belong.
>>98699380I'd like something more HH related like a Leviathan or Dedrodeo
>>98699390That's gay as fuck, go play HH then
>>98699377You can also be happy about cool shit coming out without it being eyerolling cringe or something
>>98699385yeah, but its weird how everyone knows its always you, isn’t it?
>>98699388better
>>98699400Go away.
>>98699393What do you mean, relics are cool as fuck in 40k.
>>98699387Nah I've seen wide-faced chinks that look like that
>>98699294>vast conspiracyAre you retarded? What does this have to do with a conspiracy? It's very simple>businessman say "make new space marine heads with a couple females">studio "ok">several years later>"we are ready to release female space marine heads but recent feedback suggests many customers would be very angry, cancel female space marine heads">"we already sculpted them and made molds, that will be a lot of money lost">"okay release them just dont say anything about any of them being female and hope no one notices since our female faces look like fuck ugly dykes anyways"
>>98699388I think there would be a more even spread. Marines would still likely be the most popular and iconic, but the gap between player number wouldn't be as high.
>>98699388Unbelievable kino.
>>98699414You've already given everyone plenty of reasons.Go.Away.
Is the store down?
>>98699414Shoo, worm
>>98698546Now get a thread from 2017.
>>98699414hey decalfag, just wanted to let you know the reason is because you’ve ban evaded 200+ times and have terrorized this general for three straight years with your slop models and melties. granted, you haven’t been throwing as many melties lately, but that’s only because you know the jannies are cracking down on your shitposts and you’re semi-intelligent enough to know to behave for the time being. it still doesn’t stop anons from shitting on you for being a barely sapient autist though.that is all.
>>98699427no
>>98699373>Why would you run conversions on itBecause the supposed posters are praising the kit as basis for firstborn conversions that everyone will now start doing.
>>98697978Depends entirely on how the points will reweigh them, especially with 3x model units with a smaller volume of attacks but higher density of resilience.
>>98699362Please keep believing this and posting about it until I blow your ass out in November
>>98699439I mean I can see some people doing that sure but It’s a lot of extra work the vast majority of people just kind of put kits together
Reminder to simply stay on topic and report off-topic
>>98698895Oh wow, that genuinely mogs the GW Riptide.
If you are no longer anonymous and are easy to identify you shouldn't expect people to leave you aloneDoesn't matter if you make one good post people still hate you and want you to fuck off
>>98699388GW would go bankrupt for wasting resources on xenoshitters.Horus heresy proved you can cut all non-imperial and non-chaos armies and it still thrives. Marines are the main stars of 40K and what white men are there for.
What was that really good female chaos demon full army proxy again?
>>98699349I'm a chaosfag so no.
>>98699460>thrives.
>>98699460>Horus heresy proved you can cut all non-imperial and non-chaos armies and it still thrives.It only sells because people buy that shit to run as proxies in their 40k armies.>Marines are the main stars of 40K and what white men are there for.Yeah but it's more fun to play them against xenos than other marines, retard. People wouldn't read Batman comics if he was just fighting color-shifted Batman every single time, it's the interesting cast of villains that make it work.
>>98699372It looks more like mystery meat of negrasian admixture than a woman.
>>98699349Yes. I can't wait to paint them and I hope more unique space marine kill teams are to come. My hope is a speciality dark angels or blood angels kill team.
Forget Legion of the CringeIt's also going to be our first chance to get the new Nob sprue
>>98699120That tank dude with a cannon dick looks cool.
>>98699460>thrivesHH is a disgrace that's begging to be used as proxies to the point they gave their custodes up for the privilege of using fucking demons, the lowest of the low in terms of popularity.
>>98699505Yes, independent anon, thanks for so selflessly repeating what the advertisement has underlined!
>>98699505Nah nah nah lil broKeep leagion of the based’s name out of your fkin mouth
>>98699507demons are cool dude what are you gay?
>>98699505The nobz are kinda meh, and I say this as someone who mostly likes the new Orks. They're not bad, they're just a little underwhelming. But the LotD being upscaled modern quality firstborn is something we've been craving for years and years.
>>98699532My biggest complaint about the new Nobz is that GW are taking the opportunity to slap on that '1 in 5 may take X, 1 in 5 may take Y' bullshitI want to see the full kit and know what they look like when you make just a bunch of 'normal' Nobs
>>98699532>The nobz are kinda mehHonestly I kind of agree. I would say they're good, but they could be better. I would have liked to see some bigger and chunkier guns for a start, and perhaps some more elaborate boss poles.
>>98699505No one cares shit eating xenofaggot, you should be happy GW even gave your waste of time army new minis this year which you didn't deserve. Only armies that matter are Imperium vs Chaos.
>>98699557uh oh marinepiggy melty
>>98699557goodness golly gracious little man relax yourselfus xenoschads are just chilling and enjoying our saturday no reason to have a meltie about it
>>98699544>I want to see the full kit and know what they look like when you make just a bunch of 'normal' NobsYeah agreed. Maybe they'll actually be a pretty cool kit all in all, and I'm buying the Armageddon Kill Team box regardless, but they're less exciting than other Ork stuff we got from what's been shown so far.
>98699557Lol.
>>98699505Thanks GW employee.>>98699557Post your models.
>>98699557>Chaos>mattering
>>98699581Chaos is pretty coolSeems to matter a good deal
odds I start assembling my battle forceevens I strip the paint off the models I already fucked up
>>98699587The two biggest upcoming secondary-magnets disagree
>>98699587>>98699593Today we will remind them
>>98699505Dakka Boss is one of the more radical models I've seen in the last few years, and will finally make me start running Nobs in my lists.
>>98699597>OLD THING GOOD, NEW THING BADgive it a rest, gramps
>>98699593Idk shit about total war but dawn of war is gonna have chaos as a faction im assumingThe first one did
>>98699183>>98699197EC and WE are the exact same size as primaris
>>98699606The only reason you are here is because OLD THING GOOD was completely objectively true and the success of how good it was is why GW and 40k are still in existence now coasting on that momentum. If the old days weren't GOOD then newfags like you would have never even heard about it, there wouldn't be a 40k anymore, it would be another on the massive pile of hundreds of dead and out of print games from the 80s and 90s.
I finished my collage entry
>>98699613>Chaos has more importance to the overall loreLol, lmao
>>98699617Niggas will say dumb shit like this but then also accuse every single person that disagrees with anything they say of only coming here after space marine 2 came out
>>98699619
>>98699624Anon you are not making the argument you think you are making lol
>>98699607DoW IV is Marines, Orks, Necron, and AdMech. I wouldn't expect Chaos at all outside of a surprise final boss deal with them being DLC down the line.
>>98699607It will obviously be a prime candidate for the first expansion/DLC, but it's notable that the DOW has never launched with Chaos since the first entry'skins in every single one though, apparently THEY'RE non-negotiably iconic
>>98699619>>98699628those are some nice paint jobs but I hate Eldar so fuck you
>>98699607Dawn of War 4 has Marines, Necrons, Orks and Admech. Each has two soft subfactionsTotal War 40k has Marines, Imperial Guard, Orks and Eldar. Two subfactions each + custom subfaction creationBoth will have CSM and other armies in dlcs eventually
>>98699636Thanks!
>>98699619>>98699628How long have you been on estrogen for
>>98699631yeah I am dumbass “you’re only here because oldhammer was so grogging epic” and “you’re only here because you’re a fucking basic bitch normie who played space marine 2” are completely antithetical
>>98699642>No Leagues of Votann, Custodes and Genestealer Cults, NO BUY
>>98699642impossible to do that
>>98699622Measuring the importance of a faction by the starter sets doesn't work outside loyalist marines. The conflict against Chaos is what defines 40k and all their factions outside Nids and Tau, newfag. It always has been.It's just that GW didn't want to scare your mum, little Timmy
>>98699636Based beyond belief
>>98699646Retard these are not contradictory at all, Space Marine 2 only exists because "oldhammer was grogging epic" as you put it. If oldhammer sucked and wasn't that cool then the entire franchise would have died long before people asked GW for licenses to make video games of it. You are a complete midwit who probably cannot answer the breakfast question.
>>98699597>I will remind them that i'm a retard that doesn't know what matters in the 40k universeokay
>>98699632No shot it stays at 4 factions>>98699633Probably dlc ye
>>98699652>The conflict against Chaos is what defines 40kIt literally does not, that's historical revisionism from modern chaosfags who didn't even work at GW when Priestley did. Even the image you posted shows that Realm of Chaos was originally planned for Fantasy only, it was expanded to add 40k content after the huge success of Rogue Trader, and it was not definitional to the setting in any way, shape, or form, because all of the concepts that defined the setting existed in the Rogue Trader original rulebook that had zero Chaos in it.
>>98699663The people who wrote the rules and lore and designed the minis for that massive list of early 40k products which included almost no chaos at all clearly knew what mattered more than a dumb coping chaosfag like you, kek
lmfao this game is just HH now.
I’m jerking my tiny white pecker and watching Horus Heresy lore vids right now. What’s everyone else doing on Saturday
>>98699656literal survivorship bias + post hoc reasoning victim talking about the breakfast question lmaoyoure confusing an IP having good foundational ideas with every generation of that IP owing its popularity to the quality of the original executionmodern 40K is the product of 40 years of selection, refinement, marketing, adaptation and accumulated iconography. Space Marine 2 players aren’t evidence that gognard era 40K was amazing they’re evidence that Space Marine 2 successfully packaged the parts of 40K that have survivedalso youre gay
>>98699642>Noooooooo you just got to launch a game with 20+ factions, the dozens of models each one would need, and all of the abilities/weapons that each would have from scratchIgnoring the fact that they're obviously going to sell other factions as DLC down the line because money, the game wouldn't be out for another 5 years. There's a reason why every good RTS ever released only ever launched with 2-4 races. >But Age of Empires IIThere are basically only 4 real "factions" in the base game with a few sub-factions divided further by each having a few unique things like units and technology, but they all share assets among one another.
>play vs ts>shitton of combos>at this point i don't even question whatever bs combo for devs lethals increased ap latte grande with extra whipped cream>2nd game at 2kjust depressing kinda, maybe i should play some combo slurry too instead of trying to get by on stats
>>98699679I play Xenos.
>>98699691Some armies have a lot of cheesy bullshit combo-stacking, others don't, sometimes it's down to the units you brought. It's just how the crow flies.What army did you play, so we can see if it's a case of roster building vs. just being a bad matchup?
>>98699668>>98699673The real revisionism is yours, xenofags.Realms of Chaos was massive and fully compatible with 40k. It even introduced the traitor legions and lots of new minis.Then the first HH game was released the next year. You're just butthurt because you're and always will be the B plot of this setting. And even xeno factions are defined by their relationship woith Chaos (like the eldar, or Tau and their rogue general with a chaos sword, etc).That's just how this setting works, go back to masturbate to xeno titties, tourists.
>>98699704Thank you.
>>98699725>after all the shilling space marines including put in every starter set, they’re still only a little over 1/5th grim
>>98698410>>98698514>>98698546We've been getting raided for a long time, no question about that, but 'post models' is just the lowest-hanging 'own' the modern /40kg/-goer has and is NOT worth a melty of this caliber. Even if you chomp at their bit they'll just talk shit or deride whatever opinion set them off anyway.>no sane adult with a job would like to see their minis link them to this place.No sane adult with a job gives 4chan, much less /tg/, the time of day at all. Even so, there's always plausible deniability that they're not actually your dudes. I've posted nothing but rehashed photos from faction Discords in this place to shit on idiots and will keep doing so until it becomes impossible. Not once did I get exposed for it so far nor has anyone whose pics I stole been falsely ousted as far as I know.
>>98699682Dumbass you don't have surviving parts if all of it sucked lmaoYour entire argument is a pseudo-intellectual "erm people only liked the GOOD parts of oldhammer", no shit, presenting this as some sort of wise insight proves you're fundamentally fucking tarded
>>98699733>thinking space marines aren't the same thing as chaos marineNgmi
>tqnot my best, but pretty proud of these 2E Gretchin -> Ratlings.
>>98699725Why are we counting the imperials and chaos together here? GW Sells their armies in 4 brackets.>Space marines.>imperial armies.>chaos armies.>Xeno armies.This data suggests that Xenos in aggregate are the most popular "GA" Style grouping, presumably because they have the most diverse range of aesthetics and as such appeal to the widest base. I could believe it too when I consider how anemic releases are for the cult legions. Like, as an example, TS were released in 7th edition same as GSC. In the time since release tho GSC have gotten an entire sculpted second wave while all TS got were AOS hand me downs, a few pity heroes and a robot.In fact, none of the cult legions have gotten anything better than a single pity model per edition since their release with the exception of Khorne Boys who also got a kill team. A cultist kill team lmao.
>>98699717How old is this? These numbers are way off current.
>>98699707>Then the first HH game was released the next year.Which didn't even have real Chaos, it was just Imperium vs Imperium and they created the Horus Heresy lore as justification for the civil war so they could put one set of models in the box and have you fight mirror matches with them. Then that game was almost immediately replaced with a 40k version adding Orks and Eldar.
>>98699755All marines together, loyalist or traitor are still less popular than all xenos. Xenos are apparently 3% off from being half the player base. Almost 1/2 of all players own at least one xeno army.
>>98699706i was testing on tts the expansion of the banana shitters i have built at 1k already on host+moritoi, 1 of each dreadnought (telemon with double storm cannons), 2 squads of guard, witch seekers,3 allarus with axes champ and captain, grav tank but without blaze cannons since i couldn't fit it in 6 ventari with lancesplayed vs magnus, brick of termies, forgefiend, 2 rubric squads with leaders where applicable, tzaangors and enlightened with the magic field detachment, take and hold mirrormap was search and destroyventari failed a charge and chudded most of the time, allarus survived long enough to finish off forgefiend after it got shot a bit by the grav tank. Felt like moritoi is kinda shit on mixed dreads and that I should've just went with solar as dreads not being able to charge on advance caught them out of position and they ofc also failed their charges and they couldn't stand the combo spam. Rapid fire 6 on storm cannons not as impactful as i thought - i get the same number of shots with devs on with volkite ironjacks but no cp and they can actually fucking hide in terrain but maybe that's because i built with expectation of not having to always be fighting marines. Missions also kinda rough and was kited by the action monkey tzaangors. The tank did kinda ok even if positioning it was hell even when flying due to density and OP was more experienced and actually did use terrain zones better than me to deny shots.don't really wanna think anymore about the game and just kinda build and paint my taldarim immortal instead if im not too tired for that
>>98699759Xenos is gonna get a huge bump. The last 3 Starters had Orks, Nids, and Necrons.
>>98699755chaos marines post 4th edition are definitely shilled hard, but no where near to the extent loyalists are especially when it comes to starter boxes where most people will go to get their first army.
Just watched Astartes for the first time lads.It's pretty good. It did highlight how disconnected the term 'marine' is from what the in world space marines are.
Highschool Teacher here, I want to try an intro game at the after school club I run sometime next month. I'm just gonna use minis from Armageddon to make it simple, but do these lists seem balanced?>Marines: Captain w/ 10 intercessors, Jumppack Chaplain w/ 5 Vanguard Vets>Orks: Warboss w/ 10 Boyz, Bigboss w/ 10 Boyz, WartrakkIt's ~400 points for each, though I feel the squad of 10 intercessors might be better split into two 5 mans?
>>98699294Truth nuke
>>98699314None of those heads are female, they are all just ugly potato nosed dudes.
>>98699770Does the data account for one person owning multiple armies?Most people who own marines I bet only own one marine army, then just Chapter-hop depending on rules. But the same guy might own 1k Nids, 1k Orks, 1k GSC, etc.
>>98699770Fair point. I like xenos more than space marines. They cool, but don't see why they take top billing every time.>>98699774>literally can't readGrim
>get around to the Astartes 2 teaser>it’s about a Terminator SquadI’m legitimately hyped. It’ll probably change how Terminators are depicted for years to come, so I hope the guy doesn’t bungle it (though I doubt he will)
>>98699776How about just intercessors vs boys and Gretchin? No Characters.
>>98699372There's nothing feminen or womanly about that. It's a vaguely ethnically ambigious dude scowling.
>>98699387>>with thick lipsHaving big lips doesn't make you a woman. Even blacks have this phenotype.
>>98699767Explains why necrons are so popular on it.
>>98699788Bold to assume he's still leading the project.
>>98699832>gene stealer cultsI every time I'm reminded of it I can only wonder why anyone ever thought it would be a good idea to make that it's own army. So fucking stupid.
He’s literally me…
>>98699746sucky shit survives all the time dude are you really unironically saying that every long surviving series is fucking amazing?john warhammer sci-fi supermarvel master chief halo space-dude iconography has mass appeal go fucking figure lol
>>98699832Salamanders sub is bigger than quite a few of those.
>>98699784There is really no need, we're measuring how many people own enough models of a faction to be considered an army.Honestly the new method of marine structure has probably hurt GW's movement of marines more than it has helped, I remember back in 6th the SW had almost no models in common with codex compliant marines. The only times a space wolf player bought Compliant marine kits was to convert a space wolf equiv that either didn't have a dedicated kit or did have one that sucked.These days however space wolves are just a colour scheme, you can easily build a "space wolf" army that can also be played as any other space marine army.The Eldar are the closest equiv to what marines can do but their ranges share very little in common, only Harlequins and Corsairs are cross compatible and they're only in the CWE book because there is no "eldar agents" book.
I've only ever played on TTS because I get to sit down the whole time
>>98699832You would think GSC would be more popular considering how people been howling that they hate marvel slop and prefer the no-name-gooner part of the game. GSC is literally the definition of that.
Salamanders are cool and have a great aesthetic and theme going for them.But man is it sad that GW ignores them for the most part.
>>98699793NTA, but the eye width, the brow depth, and the philtrum length are all feminine.
>>98699842The GSC are a good faction. They're the closest the game lets you get to playing the unwashed masses.
>>98699870You don't think imperial guard fit that niche better?
>>98699875Know that when gw picks them up it will be exclusively to have a negro chapter at the forefront, and because of bricky spreading the meme of them being good boys.
>>98699870>how people been howling that they hate marvel slopPeople who say this are a vocal minority, even on here.The honest truth is that vast majority of the fanbase actually enjoys the named characters and the "marvel slop" because they find it it fun and cool.
>>98699879IG as well, yeah. But they are too, unpopular.
>>98699886GW doesn't care what Bricky says.
>>98699876If you look at all of the heads pretty much all of them have same details and facial proportions and none of them look feminen and look like dudes.
>>98699875Salamanders are pretty gay but at least they’re not as gay as Space Wolves
>>98699887Yeah most people actually just want their favourite glub shitto to be more important but since saying that is fucking pathetic they just say they hate capeshit instead.GSCfags are the only people who are actually fine with being no name shitters.
>>98698997Iron hands have only two named characters and no other unique datasheets though.
>>98699905I'm fine with custodes beefing it because every time they lose a battle it's such a catastrophic loss for the imperium that they need to retcon Imperial records. IIRC there's only 100 Telemon dreads left. One of those getting obliterated by a repurposed piece of logging equipment is hilarious.
>>98699842It's the anti-capeshit faction and also the only real Lovecraftian faction that exists in game. I love how not even the Patriarch is an epic hero, though they made him that way so he can take enhancements but still it's an unnamed character that you can take only one of.>>98699870But people DO love Marvelslop.
>>98699870The problem with GSC is just the sheer amount of money and time it takes to start with them. One of the most expensive to buy AND the most difficult to paint well AND their rules have been shit on for awhile now so they're also not a meta pick. They're just super nerfed by these logistical considerations.
>>98699917You are gay AND retarded
>>98699916>IIRC there's only 100 Telemon dreads leftThe custodes can make more. It just takes a while because it is exepensive to do material wise.
>>98697983how important is load out on model and stuff?i been autistically trying to make action post before I grue them so I can prime it for the nightI mean sure after awhile you probably just do whateverbut its my first squad so
>>98699843I love his face so much, he's so grungy, like that guy from sin cityHopefully GW will not have ruined it too much by being too retarded to understand "show don't tell"
>>98699875They have to. You can't just have an army of black people. You need to put black guys in every other army.
5 Hellbasters downgonna take a break from them and paint some HQs I cobbled together from leftover sternguard + the librarian recast I bought
>>98699920>but still it's an unnamed characterNo it's not, his name is Joe.
>>98699892And yet the fanbase is affected, and so are the spending habits as a result, and gw catering to them.Only normies like salamanders.
>>98699951>And yet the fanbase is affectedNot really. Even redditors say bricky is wrong.GW doesn't ultimately care what some dipshit youtuber thinks. Also if GW cared about adding africans into Salamanders they would've already done so.
>>98699931Yeah but the cost-effectiveness ratio is so disproportionate that it's ridiculous. For example custodes getting yeeted in that one story with the Norn Emissary is funny because some if not all of those lost Custards may have been around since the unification wars. They are autistically hand-crafted down to the microscopic level, countless aspirants dying in the process, and then having all the humanity removed out of them to become the perfect soldier.Thousands of years later they get carved in half by a bug that was born a few weeks ago.Literally every single time a custodes dies, it's the Imperial equivalent of slipping on a banana peel and falling down twelve flights of stairs.
>>98699968I try to explain this to people and they don't get it. Logistics wins wars. This is why Tyranids are guaranteed to win in the long run. One of their big bugs slaughters half a dozen Custodes in a matter of seconds and they can shit out 5 million more of those giant monsters every time they eat a planet.
>>98699968Just goes to show how lethal some of the threats the imperium faces are
>>98699875>GW is ignoring space marines!Wtf are you talking about?
>>98699944It's Eugene "the Patriarch" Pateman>>98699925This. Without the old combat patrol box and finding stuff cheap from the 2nd hand market I wouldn't have had this army. I just grabbed 5 more atalan jackals & 5 aberrants for 25 euro from someone selling the combat patrol magazine. It's a challenge in itself to paint 50-60 Neophytes that only make up less than 500pts.
>>98699989Gorgeous army anon
>>98697983buy high grit (3000+) sandpaper for smoothing down sprue gates and mold lineswhen sanding down models apply light pressure and do fast passes over, this will catch onto the mold lines sticking out while leaving the rest untouched (kind of like drybrushing)the exacto knife is useful but if you have bad control you will fuck up your models (depending on where and how bad you can maybe get away with it looking like battle damage)both superglue (cyanoacrylate) and plastic glue have their uses, use CA for hidden internal connections & gluing to base and plastic glue for piecea that need to be flushbuy a set of shitty cheap brushes. you need shitty brushes for transferring paint from pots to your palette (not a problem if you bought dropper bottle paints), drybrushing, and technical paints
>>98699977Not reallybiomass acquired - biomass expended = strategic gain or lossThey can still lose more biomass than they gain in any given engagement And there are several terrible matchups for them in this regard like necrons or chaos which are not biological in nature at all
>>98699890NTA but guard suffers from the same "expensive to play" issue that GSC doesThe current "good units" list being far removed from the mental image of guard doesn't help. GW really needs to consider what each army is SUPPOSED to be when making up rules, but that requires thinking about 2nd-order effects and how things interact with each other beyond lorewank so they won't.
>>98699996Tyranids lose 0 biomass once they actually win on the planet, unless it gets Exterminatus'd or they're fighting Necrons as you mentioned. Dead Tyranids are just reabsorbed. The whole biosphere gets eaten. Even burning them has no effect, every molecule of ash and smoke is still getting fixed back into the soil or in the atmosphere when they absorb it all. Nothing is lost.
>>98699977Tyranid logistics are nonsense.They should be eating giant gas planets and space rocks instead of the handwavey muh biomass technobabble.
>>98700011No because gas giants and space rocks don't have DNA codes and aren't a threat. The Tyranids are on a cosmic genocide campaign to kill everything that's biologically alive and not part of the Hive Mind while absorbing whatever genetic strengths it has into their gene-pool.
>>98699996Orks as well. It's possible for them to get net positive with the angry mushrooms, but pound for pound of protein it's going to go down a lot harder than anything else.The real trick to beating the nids is to blow them out of the sky prior to planetfall. Everything after that is self imposed suicide.
>>98700002Marines have suffered the same issue for most of their existence since 3rd.Tacticals and intercessors should have been their mainstay, yet for decades they've been just a troop tax at best.People used scouts because they were cheaper, lol
>>98699996they reeat all of the biomass of any engagement, anon, it's not lost
>>98700010No fuel, not even biomass can be endlessly recycled. Though I suspect they are able to get some pretty efficient margins out of it.
>>98700025>not even biomass can be endlessly recycled.yes, it can, all you need is some input of energy and that's everywhere, from solar to warp
>>98699985>>GW is ignoring space marines!I never said this, I said they ignore salamanders.>inb4 muh generic marine kitsYeah I love it when my army looks like green ultramarines.
>>98700010Every action involves energy lossEvery zergling muscle fiber twitch is an expenditure of energyYour example of burning involves energy lossThe physical/biochemical process of biomass recovery involves chemical/caloric energy expenditure and energy lossYou can reduce their strategy to just a biomass calculation but it’s not a perfectly efficient closed loop like you’re presenting it
>>98700010>nidfag doesn't understand chemistry or physicsevery time
>>98700036>energythey never have issues with energy, only with mass
>>98700033If the nids were interested in photosynthesising their own energy there'd be garden worlds. Instead they are leaving barren rocks in their wake. Burn the nids with fire and you've denied the swarm dinner. Do it on a wide enough scale and the hive fleets will become lean enough for the imperial navy to engage it comfortably.
>>98700025Anon do you think if I go outside and set a forest on fire all of that biomass is just gone from the Earth forever? Just deleted? That's not how it works. Molecules just change form and get moved around, nothing is erased. Forest fires are how you revitalize the soil with nutrients so new stuff grows. The Tyranids are so advanced a Hive Fleet is a fully self-contained, engineered ecosystem, they have Tyranid plants and Tyranid microbes and everything else you need. All it takes is the stuff the plants feed off of, which is sunlight, which is fucking everywhere. When nids invade their spores cover your entire planet is rapidly growing hyper-adapted alien jungle that soaks up all the juicy biomass particles in the soil and the atmosphere and then the feeder-beasts eat them. If you kill the entire nid swarm and burn it all a new jungle grows over the top and absorbs it all and the next wave of nids comes and eats that too, it is never-ending. The only way to make them lose any biomass is to blow the entire planet up or blast it with so much Exterminatus grade energy that all the vaporized biomass is blown off into space and scattered to the void, or to use esoteric Necron weapons that teleport shit into pocket dimensions. Usually if they win on the planet they lose zero of what they committed to it. That's the huge threat of the Tyranids. You can bleed them out bit by bit in the space battles but not on the ground where gravity is going to keep all that biomass concentrated where they can eventually reabsorb it one way or another.
>>98700021In current game, basic-ass marines do serve *a* purpose in being good enough at shooting enemy infantry to be worth bringing if you're playing "traditional" take-and-hold gameplay or fighting an opponent like Sisters who are heavy on squishy units across their roster, but that's about it. You could also look at it as a preemptive way to force your opponent to play a certain way by forcing him to curate his list, something that like a guard player could only really do by bringing a Baneblade.The other side of that issue though, where the enemy's battleline infantry aren't able to do that and therefore aren't worth bringing, means that Intercessors now also have little purpose, because the opponent is largely ignoring the reason you'd bring Intercessors, and marines have better units to fight the opponents' better units.That's what I mean by 2nd-order effects, no consideration for the reaction to changes by GW so basic units are worthless, and it's just more obvious for the horde armies because of the contrast in stats between horde infantry like guardsmen and Intercessors.
>>98700044this is sort of a vague thing to saybiomass requires chemical energy to livelife is a chemical process which invariably involves expenditure and some amount of waste at every step which is why everything eventually diesyoure presenting them as a perfect closed energy loop with 0% waste that does not require the expenditure of chemical energy to function which is inaccurate
>>98700049Nice rant, please see >>98700047.
>>98700041Insane irony in this post, you failed literally elementary level chemistry to not grasp what is being talked about here >>98700033 and here >>98700049
>>98699939I never watched Sin City :(
>>98700034Salamanders are codex compliant space marines, just like the Ultramarines. You picked generic space marines and don't like that they just look like generic space marines.
>>98700058That post is retarded and already defeated by this >>98700017The Hive Ships are always photosynthesizing, energy is cheap and easily accessible, the strip planets so they have the mass to put that energy into to grow larger.
>>98700060Energy is lost as heat when things burn so unless tyranids are biochemically reclaiming heat energy there is waste in the energy loop you’re describing
>>98699943>he painted the hellblasters
>>98700075How are you this fucking dumb, anon. READ WITH YOUR EYES >>98700049>When nids invade their spores cover your entire planet is rapidly growing hyper-adapted alien jungle that soaks up all the juicy biomass particles in the soil and the atmosphere and then the feeder-beasts eat them. If you kill the entire nid swarm and burn it all a new jungle grows over the top and absorbs it all and the next wave of nids comes and eats that tooThe jungles are absorbing sunlight, that's the input energy. This is so fucking basic.
>>98699943how are they gonna pour the ribena if the cap isn't opened
>>98700081bro is heated lmao>>98699989nice army anon
why does gw send these cunts products early
>>98700065>ummm have you considered [unrelated thing I said elsewhere] Lol>hive ships photosynthesisingIf we are going to pretend you didn't imagine that I'd like to know who much sunlight you think would be collected when 99% of the time you are further from a star than pluto is to the sun.
>>98700060lmao, "biomass" in 40k is bs that doesn't work like in reality.Magical thinking unrelated to the reality of complex organic chemicals being fucking burned or dissolved, nevermind magical "ADN" also completely unrelated to real chemistry. Or entropy.It's emabrrassing that you try to pass any of this as legit science instead of handwaved sci-fi technobabble for the sake of the rule of cool.
>>98700093Nearly free marketing, duh.
>>98699856>The Eldar are the closest equiv to what marines can do but their ranges share very little in common, only Harlequins and Corsairs are cross compatible and they're only in the CWE book because there is no "eldar agents" book.ARE YOU LISTENING GWWHERE IS THE EXODITE-CORSAIR-HARLEQUIN BOOK, WITH ELDAR KNIGHT CLANS TOO?
>>98699943It always fucks my head in that hellblasters are the plasma niggas and not the flamer niggas.
>>98700081the atoms are recyclable but the process is not losslessyou’re confusing matter conservation with zero resource cost
>>98699842>army in rogue trader>REEE WHO THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD DIEARETARD
>>98700095>If we are going to pretend you didn't imagine thatYou can literally just read codexes and battlefleet gothic>I'd like to know who much sunlight you think would be collected when 99% of the time you are further from a star than pluto is to the sunAnon these are ships that travel at speeds where they invade systems FTL and then move around fast enough to go from planet to planet in a matter of hours. They fly right up to the suns and cluster around them to absorb big loads of energy and store it in between trips from system to system.
>>98698870>napoleon at the gate of Austerlitz
>>98700113They weren't nids in rogue trader. It's infinitly less retarded in that version.
>>98700102"more space marines", you say? well, if you insist :)
>>98700109The mass is all that matters, the energy is free from the sun
>>98700109Anon, this moron doesn't understand that in reality it would be more efficient to synthetize raw elements instead of the overcomplicated mental gymnasstics about muh biomass.Terminal nidfags make trekkies and warsies look measured and reasonable.
>>98700057>biomass requires chemical energy to liveno, it requires energy, full stopecosystems don't need a constant input of new biomassearth doesn't go on because someone adds biomass from outside every day, retard
>>98698841Helmetless, but I gave him a snazzy hat.
>>98700093one(1) pallet of paints being dropped by a sleep deprived amazon servitor costs more than it does to ship out a full set to every retard who can pull a funny face and recite the marketing blurbs, why the fuck would they not give them out
>>98700093It costs like $500 something to send an entire range and they do all the testing and production for you, it makes the most sense to "subcontract" your marketing this way.>>98700084>>98699993Thanks, I wouldn't call it gorgeous as I'm just a novice painter but I tried to keep the colors consistent. Except for the bikes that are just orange, wanted to try something new other than green and purple. I got 5 more bikes incoming, I don't know if I should also paint them in orange or not.
>>98700122Yes they were, it wasn't revealed right away but GW had already decided they were secretly Nids before they even released space hulk which is why the Genestealer models looked like Tyranids and not like their original art right from the get-go, and Advanced Space Crusade was released when it was still Rogue Trader era.
>>98700122Nids and genestealers only were different things in the original RT rulebook, after that they quickly became linked.
>want to assemble and paint minis>take a nap instead>wake up and hate myselfand thusly the cycle continues
>>98700011They're not magic, they can't eat anything and convert it into energy, any more than we can.
>>98700126>in reality it would be more efficient to synthetize raw elementswhich is why everyone does that, right?
>>98700126Peak pseud post
>>98700093Why not? There is like 30 max popular youtuber painters, you give them the whole range and some money for a video and you will get free advertising for years since a lot of them are going to keep using them and put them in their recipes, lolIt's exactly what AP did.
>>98700098Anon you are so fucking dumb lmao. Everything I'm saying is exactly how the real-life fucking grass works outside your window. It is like 5th grade level stuff you are just a total brainlet.
>>98700122>It's infinitly less retarded in that version.no, it's not
>>98700152>>98700139Fair enough, though I think that the nids were pretty wildly different as well. Would have to go back and read up on it. Didn't they have a centaur slave race as the time?
>>98700127i said chemical energy not biomass retard read lol
>>98699388The thousand sons infantry if it looked like SM:>rubric marines>rubric marines with flamers>rubrics in nullchange armor>rubrics in scryfast armor>rubrics in fatejumper armor>rubric marines on discs of tzeentch>rubric marines on burning chariots of tzeentch>tzaangors>tzaangor enlightened>tzaangor enlightened on discs of tzeentch>tzaangor enlightened with fatecaster greatbows>tzaangor enlightened with fatecaster greatbows on discs of tzeentch>tzaangor shaman>tzaangor shaman on disc of tzeentch >tzaangor shaman on burning chariot of tzeentch >exalted sorcerers>exalted sorcerers on discs of tzeentch>exalted sorcerers on burning chariots of tzeentch>exalted sorcerer in terminator armor>ahriman>ahriman in terminator armor>ahriman on disc of tzeentch>infernal master>infernal master on disc of tzeentch>infernal master in terminator armor>scarab occult terminators>scarab occult terminator veterans
>>98700125resource costs matter
>>98700180Yes, Zoats, those were gone by 2nd edition. Tyranids were more grimdark back then too, it was less "swarm of bugs that eats you and turns you into bio-goop to grow new bugs" and more "All Tomorrows swarm of horrible giger parasites that infect you and TRANSFORM you into whatever fleshy slave-symbiote they need to act as an anal sphincter door or horse-penis gun that shoots flesh-maggots made of your own stem cells".
>>98700171No one is disputing how grass works Anon. He's saying hive fleets are operating on fantasy logic, not on Newton various laws of physics.
>>98700192The way they work is entirely plausible within known physics and biochemistry, apart from how fast they accomplish the process. That's the only bit that's sci-fi babble space magic. And the whole "living creatures capable of faster-than-light travel" shit of course.
>>98700183how were you expecting to bring chemical energy from outside without biomass from outside?I don't want your next goalpost or glass crawling step, I want what you were honestly thinking about when you made that post
I've only ever owned one primsris marine, i found him on the ground a few years ago and added some bits a friend gave me, still need more tho
>>98700160>>98700161>>98700164>>98700171Real organic chemistry doesn't work like in your nidfag delusions. Do you get that the 40k "biomass" is fantasy nonsense with a layer of technobabble to make it sound believable?Nids only need their bioweapon programming to excuse their behaviour, trying to make it make sense as if it was the most efficient way to reproduce and evolve only makes you look like ignorant retards without a grip on reality.
>>98700206I dont even know what youre asking I said biomass requires chemical energy to live and now youre talking about biomass from outside? Like literally what the fuck are you talking about lol?
>>98700202>The way they work is entirely plausible within known physics and biochemistryNo they don't.If you want a bioweapon that actually makes sense, look at Orks.
>>98700209>Real organic chemistry doesn't work like in your nidfag delusionsYou're right anon, forests don't regrow over fields of ash where one burned down, that has never happened in real life and every time we burn something on earth it is biomass that is GONE FOREVER from the biosphere and we're going to run out! AAAAGHH!
>>98700209>it's more efficient to mold your own lego than build something using all the lego scattered around the floorYou're so fucking retarded
>physicsposting in the 40k threadTryanids lose because theyre fucking gayMy marines have more plot armor and sell more plastic than your retarded faggot bug faction so I win, simple as
>>98700223>My marines have more plot armor and sell more plastic than your retarded faggot bug faction so I win
>>98700219You're just illiterate anon I don't know what to tell you. Open up a middle school chemistry book. Pretty early on you're going to find the axiom that mass cannot be created nor destroyed, only change form. Chemical reactions are just atoms moving around between molecules. All that is required is input energy, as another anon pointed out, and that energy is supplied by the sun, which is how our real life planet has plants that grow without "eating" anything.
Selling fast!
>>98700219Shirely, you can't be serious?>>98700223>Tryanids lose because theyre fucking gayTrue
>>98700209>Real organic chemistry doesn't work like in your nidfag delusions.yes, it does, you break apart the chemical bond of a biological molecule to move energy towards a mechanical movement, then you input energy from outside the system to re-establish that same chemical bond from the same pieces of biological molecules.And you can reuse them over and over indefinitely, or if they break apart for whatever reason they get recycled and reassembled anew from the same parts.earth already does all of that at the ecosystemic scale.what part is it you don't understand?
>>98700236Available while stocks last is just what they slap on everything that isn't reprinted. It will sell out, unfortunately, like the magic 30th anniversary $1000 packs did.
Arent tyranids just lore hardcountered by necrons?
>>98700223Based
>>98700236it always hurts when I look at some ridiculously priced 40k item on Amazon and think "wtf no one would pay those absurd prices" and then see that 100+ have been sold in the past month
>>98700242have necrons ever fought the tyranids?
>>98700220>>98700221>>98700231>>98700239>ADN is totally like Lego>Nid magical "biomass" is totally the same as IRL biomass, life cycles, and organic chemistrylmao, you're delusional and retarded>>98700223Based
While I've no doubts it's physically possible, does charred wood and flesh get reconstituted into the ecosystem irl? if so is it happening in an animals gut or does a micro-organism have to futts around with it first?
>>98700259>does charred wood and flesh get reconstituted into the ecosystem irl?
>>98700253Pretty sure the silent king teamed up with some space marines to fuck with them at some point.
>>98700259>get reconstituted into the ecosystem irl?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decomposition
>>98700093warhipster is based
>>98700266>blows up the planet
>>98700236I suppose even scalpers and marinepiggies have their limits.
Sucks that I have to go for transports or the bikes & speeders detachments for recon in marines. Was hoping one of the phobos ones would do it.
>>98700264>the silent king teamed up with some space marinesHERESY
>>98700264Necrons and Blood Angels. BFFs.
>>98700262>>98700266It seems like the answer is yes, but it takes a very long time because of how stable the chemical structure is. I don't think the hive would bother sucking up burned flesh unless it was particually desperate.
>>98700285Vampires and Skeletons? Like peanut butter and jelly.
>>98700285You all look the same to me.
>>98700289>It seems like the answer is yesdoes it? you mean matter doesn't just evaporate into nothingness, lost to the ecosystem forever?
>>98700285blood angels are to the empire as mormons are to christianity, they just kinda make up their own rules about everything
>>98700247I like that most people pretend to be making 500k a year wfh as a Tech legal expert with a JD and then they're absolutely flabbergasted by the size of my 401k.Most people online are larpers, broke and living hand to mouth.
>>98700259It’s dependent on earth’s bacteria, but yes. If you left a corpse on mars it would just dehydrate and remain there forever.
>>98700295>is pretending that anyone ever said matter was being destroyed Let it go retard.
>>98700257>organic chemistry is super complicated, replicators turning energy into matter like Star Trek is much easier
>>98700303>does charred wood and flesh get reconstituted into the ecosystem irl?what would the alternative be?
Terminators can have -1 to be hit that stacks with cover, -1 to be wounded, -1 damage strat, -1 AP, T6 2+ 4++ 4w with 30 hits of dam 3 dev wounds, sustained hits, and easy access to lance + another bit of AP as well as +1 to charge rolls and uppy downy in the army with armywide advance+fallback shoot and charge and marine players will UNIRONICALLY say that it's balanced because they don't have oath
>>98700289The autist arguing that nids aren't possible in reality is correct, but all that that should tell us is that 40k is a fictional setting where physics doesn't work the same as in reality. I wouldn't give him that victory though, because he's being retarded about it and it should be obvious that a fictional world where egregores are real and you can tear a hole in space by believing hard enough doesn't work like the real one.We have to have SOME nonsensical contrivances to let the game happen, or else every army would look like 1 of 3 permutations of the same general "mechanized infantry with big gun tanks" and that wouldn't sell well. Reality is boring, that's why we're playing sci-fi games.
>>98700312It collects as sediment below the soil and does the same thinks any other mineral does below the earth.
>>98700320*things
Need a new thread I have some questions
>>98700259Flesh is just amino acids and fats that just about anything can eat.Charred wood/charcoal is mostly raw carbon, which actually pretty hard for most organisms to use, it's chemically inert to most things you find in nature (interestingly graphite is super fucking reactive). We regularly find chunks of the stuff in human settlements beneath the earth from thousands of years ago. The carbon cycle involves the uses of other carbon bearing molecules like acids, carbohydrates, or carbonates. It DOES break down eventually, random chemical processes cause it to sometimes hydrate into a hydrocarbon or oxidize into carbon dioxide.Anyways, back to /40kg/ relevancy, the real issue with "biomass" from a physical standpoint is that a lot of said biomass is "low energy", AKA it'll need additional energy added to be useful. You could probably handwave this by saying they use solar energy somehow, but stuff like silicas and carbonate rocks making up the vast majority of a planet's crust is so abundant and hard to process into a useable state that I find it hard to believe the Tyranids wouldn't just leave it behind.
Niggas are acting like tyranids are dropping some serious gukka gukka 3000 on these planetsIts more like theyre giving the biosphere tender gentle nursing handjobIt’s not 100% perfect but it gets the job done
>>98700323well you see, when a space marine and a tyranid love each other very much, they do a special handshake...
>>98700308Your bullshit magical biomass is unironically less efficient and more convoluted than simply pumping energy into element synthesis, yes>>98700314The real autist is the moron pretending that the fictional Tyranid life cycle makes sense in reality and it shouid be taken seriously. Which was the argument in this thread.
>>98700332A tender, nursing, gentle handshake.
>>98700328Finally someone explains it in a way I can understand
Are legions of the damned going to be in imperial agents?
>>98700328ssshhhh anon, every time someone dares to suggest that Nids do not suck planets dry to the last bacteria in their core, Nidfags go on long neurotic tirades about how wrong they are.There was a BL book where Cawl said that a nommed planet could be restored with time and external help, and nidfags are still seething about it.
>>98700347They will be in the marines codex
>>98700339>metabolism is less efficient than matter synthesisAnon please read up on nuclear fission and come back to me
Hey guys I'm lookin to get back into the game for the first time in like 20yrs, I was thinkin about doin orks but im not really sure whats worth, would the Armageddon box be a good starting point? recommendations?
>>98700236>$826 in New Zealand
>>98700365lil bro is larping about nuclear fission in the 40k thread lmao
>>98700367Armageddon box has four supports and two squads of boyz so is unplayable without adding more boy squads, I'd get the getting started with orks box instead
Nids using purely chemical bioenergy is a super inefficient storage method of energy and would undoubtedly mean they constantly are churning and burning biomass into volatiles and other inert excretions just to maintain so much large living mass in space and move matter up into orbit. Not to mention heat retention in space and preventing buildup of various reactive oxides and heavy metals that are poisonous to life, slowing various chemical processes if not killing them, if not isolated and excreted as waste.
tyranids are extremely efficient at recycling biomass but that does not make the process closed or lossless rebuilding dead organisms still costs time metabolism infrastructure and energysunlight is an external energy source with a finite input rate and waste heat is still lost they can permanently lose ships spores weapons and biomass in space where recovery is impossible or unreasonabletheir feeding can be interrupted and chaos necrons exterminatus and scorched earth can all deny them useful returns the lore itself treats invasions as spending resources first and replenishing them afterward so their logistics are extremely strong but they are not infinite and their losses still matter
>>98700365>organic chemistry>nuclear fission least retarded nidfag
If I was a tyranid I would be gayNu thread plz
Migr8>>98700389>>98700389>>98700389
>>98700289pyrovores are called that way SPECIFICALLY because they eat charred shit
>>98700367If you want everything in the armageddon half go for it though it's still the best value in warhammer, starter box is still good considering it gives you paint too for the price of a combat patrol
>>98700349>There was a BL book where Cawl said that a nommed planet could be restored with time and external help, and nidfags are still seething about it.Probably because Cawl is straight up bullshitting in that scene. He's looking at a lifeless, atmosphere-less rock mined of all its natural resources, ores, minerals, depleted of water and left nothing but barren bedrock. Not even a gasp of air remaining. And then he says "yeah we can easily fix this in a few days, Baal is gonna be right as rain, you'll see"No explanations provided, no logic, just "yeah this isn't even a speedbump to Imperial technology." So it turns out that the Imperium has had downright magical terraforming tech for 10k years all along, and every world destroyed in Exterminatus was never actually destroyed. It literally shattered the lore
>>98700398Yeah like tyranids can magically just do anything because u said soWhatever cuck
>>98700407shut up dumbass
>>98700377>>98700396thx
>>98700398>in a few dayseven in his bullshitting optimistic proposal it would take centuries to have the vague semblance of a stable ecosystem, and untold resources expended in moving every valuable thing from other planets
>>98700374>>98700385Alright bro I'll spoonfeed you: in nuclear fission you're turning matter into incredible amounts of energy. Matter synthesis would be the reverse of that process, taking unfathomable amounts of energy to create miniscule amounts of matter. How is that more efficient than metabolism?
>>98700398Cawl actually provides explanations in that book. The only real issue is the questionable willingness of the Imperium on wasting resources on terraforming a now death world. But you're a seething nidfag, so you can't dal with it.
>>98700424>muh magical metabolism means that the rules of physics and entropy no longer apply!lol, lmao even
>>98700438>My literal space magic technobabble makes more sense than established processes understood by modern scienceAre you just being willfully ignorant or are you actually this fucking stupid?
>>98700447>modern science>40kLmao>>98700410Get on topic retard
>>98700447>tyranid "biomass">ADN legos>established processes understood by modern sciencehahaha, my sides
>>98700064>Salamanders are codex compliant space marinesBeing codex compliant doesn't mean they don't have different aesthetics or that every codex compliant chapter looks like Ultramarines. Codex compliant has nothing to do with visual aesthetics/theme, it is entirely and only relevant to unit formations.You are intentionally misinterperting what I say to try twist this into something about what it isn't.
>>98700469Complete non sequitur. >>98700476Yes anon, organic compounds lying around are much easier to incorporate into an organism than literally turning energy into matter you fucking retard. Even if they're not bioavailable
>>98700512>please ignore the energy and matter needed to build monsters to nom a planet and go back to spaceyou're really a retarded uppity pseud
>>98700572>the energy and matter needed to manipulate organic compounds is less than the energy needed to create matterListen to yourself anon
>>98699775Yeah we gotta see what they do on the town when they're off duty to understand how marine they are.
>>98700398Retard, Tyranids only eat the biosphere now.They used to eat everything above the mantle layer but that took too long and gave the humans too long to prepare a decisive space battle. Thats why behemoth lost.Nids care more about strategic victory than they do about scraping every marginal return on investment so these days they only go for the easily accessible stuff. IE the atmosphere and the biosphere.Cawl said they could just crack the planet open for the chemicals they needed to build a new biosphere and he was right.
>>98699215>was about to call you a schizoDude everybody has known there was some mould issue with TRT ever since he didn't release solo beside the spectres, it's not the first time this has happened with an announced kit and it won't be the lastThis is the least schizo take I've seen in this entire thread
>>98697948Genuinely the coolest thing to come out of the whole Femstodes saga
>>98698313>>98698323
>>98700447This sounds like an argument I've heard for why ice swords are somehow less magic than magic materials made of magic to shit all over either ToW or AoS for not having flying carpets.
>>98700447People who demand grounded sci-fi from what has always obviously been nonsense are subhumans only worthy to feed off the scraps left off the table of their betters while we enjoy playing the actual game. You would never be caught dead reading something like an actual Crichton novel if that's what you value in sci-fi, because your pseud normienigger brain would be bored to death by it. You only care about henpecking other people into having less fun in a community that was clearly never for you.
>>98698650What are you talking about. Primaris are shit for their design and lore. No one hated true scale people wanted the old Marines with modern proportions instead of Primaris shit from the beginning.
>>98699100I don't want them to be shorter. Firstborn should be the same size as Primaris going forward
