Previous: >>98700288>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.png (embed)https://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png (embed)>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Green Bolas>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: What's a card that you think is massively overrated?
>TQSensei's Spinning Top
>>98708053>TQI'm not sure Blue Samut is going to be as imba as people are dooming about, but I suppose we'll see in a few weeks
>>98708066>imbapeople still use that?
Kneel before your UB kings and queens.
>>98708066It's just like Hexing Squelcher that when she hits the board you need to get rid of her asap or else the other guy will run away with the game.
>>98708077kill yourself
>>98708053Yeah no I think Recurring Nightmare is correctly rated.
>>98708077>UB>is EsperBruh
>>98708077Both of my wife's are in this image
What garbage are we expecting to go up today?
After roughly 12 years of vague interest with the last year being spent brewing I finally went to my first in person Magic event at my LGS. Built a shit chaos draft deck, went 0-2, but had fun. Cool spot, don’t know why it’s taken so long but oh well. Thanks for reading my blog
>>98708281I think I will shit up the thread arguing if cyclonic rift is overrated
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98708389>Thirty (30) starting lifeIsn't that German Highlander?
>>98708127It sits in my Kokusho box with the tokens waiting for the day it’s unbanned.
>>98708454Running Kokusho is immoral and evil. I hate you.
If I bought wretched ranks and slapped this guy down as the new commander how will I fare
>want to build bracket 2 Missy for planechase shenanigans>start looking into cards that work with her first ability>end up with several infinites without trying courtesy of sac engines and creatures that morph for freeHow do you power down your decks?
>>98708559based fellow Kamigawa appreciator
To the person posting the shortstack generated goblin cards - how did you do it? I'd love to make a custom deck with a similar style of gooner cards.
>>98708503why lol I was planning on building him
>>98708053Unban Jeweled Lotus T-Minus one hour please holy god I need the money badAgain I will PWE mail out one copy today to an anon in this thread if it happens
Anyone in this thread have insights with Zedruu? She’s one of those commanders everyone seems to have a strong opinion on building
there's a banlist update?
>>98708753Yeah, they're banning (You)r pet cards that you put in every deck.
>>98708077As a Golbez player... I hate the Final Fantasy set so much, sis.
>>98708751Costs too much mana to make work, I'd scrap the whole thing and pick a new commander.
>>98708830It’s less about winning every game and more about having a soulful deck that actually interacts with other players at the table.I’ve had a mono white b3/b4 deck that wins 80% of the time at this point i’d rather have something social. If I ever find a dedicated play group, this could change but whatever.>>98708753Panel met/is meeting this month. Based on a video from Tomer (MTG Goldfish guy on panel) about “voting” I imagine they’re doing some discussion followed by voting and then officially posting an update either today or next Monday
>>98708751You will get hated off the board if you don't completely lean into "nice" group hug because she costs a lot of mana to make work and people are scared of the mean group hug cards
>>987088304 mana costs too much?
>>98708964Plus an extra three mana per card you give away.
>>98708964yup, it's a hassle, I would try reworking the deck into Kinnan
>>98708826
Speaking of ancient commanders that were printed 15 years ago and do no hold up today, does anyone here happen to have a good Tariel list I could take a look at?
>>98708994>>98709011You guys are overthinking it. Bazaar trader, Stiltzkin, Coveted Falcon and some other creatures can donate cheaper. Could even run Uncle Iron except I think Avatar is the grossest of UB artworks.Early game id just focus on political trickery effects to switch over lands. Then cheap indestructible artifacts so that the three/four mana practically guarantees and extra card for the rest of the game as long as I can keep protection for zedruu up.Also shit like Hithlain Rope and Pendant of Prosperity naturally ends up with your opponents while also giving you value.
>>98708895Why wouldn't it be next week?
>>98708751Zedruu is soul. You can hard shit on people with aggressive mining/etc., but I don't care for that. Also group hug is faggy and I can't bring myself to complain enough. Pillowfort is great. Solitary confinement. Win with your draw alt wincon of choice (second sun, 20 toed toad, triskaidekaphile). 9 lives, transcendence, phyrexian unlife are all great. Solemnity for some fucky fucky.I'm also exploring other archetypes Z
>>98709075blugh
>>98709114No idea why it would be any week in particular. Is it normally the end of the month?
>used my Razia deck for the first time since I started making dramatic changes to it after the FF set dropped>won every game with some pivotal moveNot bad. Best move was probably hitting someone that had nearly 100 life with Lightning equipped with Lizard Blades and opening up the door for everyone to deal quad damage to bring him down to less than zero before the effect expired. Didn't cast Razia even once though. The one time I actually had enough mana to do it I had Insurrection instead.
>>98708338Hope it continues to go well for you anon. No homo
>TQ3 mana do nothing
tq this >>98708065 and the new blue samut
>>98709144Usually coincides with a full set release.
>>98708065Sensei's isn't overrated so much as people use it when they shouldn't. If you have fetches and/or a means of tutoring it up, it's one of the best opening hand smoothers in the game. Late game when you have a glut of mana it's also the inverse of Sol Ring in that it becomes an excellent top deck. Your look for 1 card suddenly became 3. If you have a fetch in hand it's a look at 6 possible options.
to whom it may concern
>>98709200If you're trying to shit on people for running nonbasics, try Lavaleaper instead. Remind them it would be a symmetrical effect if they weren't taking out a loan for their manabase.
>>98709252very hot, but I wish the waifu was at least a bit similar to chainer, like big goggles and dreadlocks
>>98709252Nice
>>98708053>TQ: What's a card that you think is massively overrated?Maybe not "overrated" so much as "overfeared." In that department I'd say The Ur-Dragon is a hate magnet for terrible players. Same with Atraxa, Praetors' Voice. From release to now people have looked at these cards and seem to unjustifiably shit their pants. It's an excellent litmus test for whether or not a player is Reddit-brained. Because you have to have been fed propaganda by r/EDH to believe either are remotely threatening.
>>98709252you didn't make this go back to plebbit where you found it
I used to get mad when Wotc passed up my old favorite magic settings for yet another ravnica set or some shit now I dread when they announce shit like a return to jamuraa please stop going to old beloved sets if you're just going to rape it into star wars or marvel
>>98709246Top belongs to a different era of Magic, and then a different era of EDH. It used to be just outright fantastic, even without considering all the Top-Card-Matters cards and decks.But, when CEDH sped up EDH, Top turned into a bit of a dead draw that would slow a hand down too much and could even turn what might have been a winning hand into a losing one. It's still great in more casual magic, but the higher the level of competition goes, if you needed Top to assemble a winning hand, you're going to lose to the person who didn't need Top.
It's safe to assume if you like AI youre a jeet
>>98709334The top is still phenomenal if you're running miracles
>>98709334Is using Top to combo out in Noctis or make sure I don't brick out in Gwenom still within the bounds of Bracket 3?
It's safe to assume if you like proxies youre a chink
>>98709316I never claimed to, I found it and wanted to share
>>98709342>>98709378You're both wrong I'm black
>>98709350It's great in a lot of decks, it's just not an auto-include like it might have once been, back when EDH was slow enough that people spent the first four turns just putting down lands and rocks. Now, games are ending on turn 4.
It's safe to assume if you like MTG you're trans
>>98709334Sure but CEDH is a containment format for fucking retards. I never consider it during card assessment because I don't humor its existence.
>>98709412>trans-human
So with the Ur-Sphinx coming out what Sphinxs will raise in price?
>>98709450
>>98702003under mark rosewater this is a grave sin and cannot be done >>98701994>gotcglad this caught on. remember to use the linguistic accent over the "ō" because then its GOAT-C
>>98709450They already have. The only two based sphinxes spiked.
>>98709412this has been debunked >>98708077tips fedoraIRL I dont know who even hates UB. I play with some of the same dudes once or twice a week and usually play with 1 or 2 other players for the first time each week. there are both ZOOMers and Gen X'ers as well as fellow millennials. they all don't have a problem with UBeven the most "boomer" dude with real duals and an epic trade binder of good shit who was playing standard back in like '96 has UB commanders alongside regular onesin other words, like 95% of other online shit, this seems to be FAKE NEWS (manufactured fake outrage)my own personal thing is final fantasy got me BACK into MTG. I was hoping they would have a cross over back in the 2000's. the games after FF 10 (so YSHTOLA and other crap not from the good ol' games) suck but the cards are all pretty good.
>>98709508>this has been debunkedhow?
>>98709508>Implying X-2 and 12 was badI would actually fight you if I met you. Say what you want about any other of the modern ones but say X-2 and 12 is bad is fighting words for me.
>>98709517Well, are (You) trans?
>>98709437I played against some degenerate Bracket 4+ & 5 netdecked proxied-as-fuck decks this weekend, and while I kind of just mildly hated everything about those decks, it's good to know what the upper levels of power look like. And, they look like decks vomiting themselves to death at each other.
>>98709528X-2 was fine, it's just more of a fanservice game than anything else, FF10 is a great story on its own that doesn't need any sequel12 is fine, the main problem with it is that narratively you're conflicted on whether the protagonist is really vaan or asheff13 and all its sequels are meh and you know it
>>98709529yes
>>98709484>remember to use the linguistic accent over the "ō" because then its GOAT-CI won't be doing this. I only said it because I was facetiously rattling off as many terrible but "acceptable" talking points as I could.
>>98709508>IRL I dont know who even hates UB. I play with some of the same dudes once or twice a weekGee I wonder if these 2 statements are connected.>in other words, like 95% of other online shit, this seems to be FAKE NEWS (manufactured fake outrage)Thanks WotC marketing team, very cool.I'm sure you're not being paid to say this, just like youtubers haven't just been paid for a fresh wave of trying to promote the hybrid change after it failed to change opinions last time.
>>98709554I always looked at X-2 as a stand-alone story, rather than a sequel. Sure, to get the whole story, you need to play X first but it's fine without it. Also, the dresssphere class and grid system was top notchYou're right about 12 being kind of schizophrenic in who is the main protagonist but that's literally the fault of Jap test audience who wanted a pretty boy protagonist. No really, look it up. Also, the original protag wasn't Ashe but BASHE! Still, loved the combat system again, literally programming your battle plan was awesome, I was there was another RPG that did that.I never defended any of the other games. Nor did I intend to. They fucking suck.
Who the fuck is running this enough that it's appearing on EDHREC?>doesn't hit lands>doesn't hit most artifacts>doesn't hit most commanders
>>98709554The only people who like the 13 trilogy are the children who only had that (and 15/16) and are coping.
>>98709609most combo pieces are monocolor
>>98709365Bracket 4+ combos are usually 2-card instant win combos.
>>98709614I feel compelled to play 13 because I like Lightning's card so much.I don't have a PS3/XB1 so I'm probably going to end up emulatiing it.
>>98709701Don't, the game's shit.t. played it at launch
Found a seller on Etsy who sells black core card stock with the same weight as WotC, and this is his packaging.Kinda cringe, but I don't have room to talk.
>>98709627Name 20
>>98709365play the deck with the limitation that you can only go infinite/altwincon t7+, which is the most practical way of playing b3if you find that you constantly have the combo before then - that you're frustrated that you have to keep sandbagging - then it's not for b3
>>98709730I reject anything that has wojack/pepe/etc. on it.
>>98709730elaborate, did you order the proxies? or just the card stock?
>>98709800I ordered the cardstock, it arrived. I used it.
Anyone care to help me make the final 2 cuts to this copy/clone deck? I've lost objectivity on it. Also let me know if anything in the maybeboard is a straight upgrade.https://archidekt.com/decks/26089991/a_mirror_darkly
>Ragavan as commander>100 mountains as deckCould that shit work? Guess I'll win no shit, but if I have fun it's ok for me.
>>98709814sol ring rhystic study, be a man
>>98709829you just wind up begging for people to let it through like a pathetic dreg
They're going to ban smothering tithe but not rhystic
>>98709075Tariel didn't hold up at the time
>>98709176so it's not a Razia deck, it's a mediocre Lightning deck with
>>98709254>dies to enemy creatures having haste"oh you want to punish greedy deckbuilders? shove a broom up your ass first"
>>98709829What's s your plan if someone blocks?
>>98709075No angel really holds up today, sadly, they are used just for cool art and nostalgia
>>98709864They're not, they're just going to change hybrid mana despite community split on it because MaRo has seethed about the Rules Committee ruling on it since day 0
>>98709999Quads of truth.And good.
>>98709999hybrid needs to change and whether maro is seething or not is irrelevant
>>98709707I feel like i need to play it in order to get proper context.Also, for some reason, Lightning is probably the one Final Fantasy girl who does nothing for me. It's an enigma I need to solve, and it's weird that even fan artists seem to struggle to make her look appealing.Lightning is almost offensively bad design-wise despite her managing to check so many of my boxes.
>>98710007>>98710013Color identity is the defining rule of the format. You can play any other fucking format in the game and put your hybrid cards in that. You are only increasing access to <600 cards in a format where ~35,000 are already legal. You do not need "more options" you're being a fucking retard and changing a rule just because it can be changed.Anyone who supports MaRo in his crusade against the hybrid rule should stop playing Commander and go play something else.
>>98709528x-2 is ultra gay and I didnt like 12. I also did not play 11 >>98709554we have a bingo>>98709576your concession is accepted.>>98709581well just like if you go on pReddit and think everyone hated the USA hockey team or wants to mutilate children's genitals in real life you see that almost no one supports that. similar to how players of all ages and length of time playing seem to unanimously like UB unlike online echo chambers. yeah spider man and shit sucks but final fantasy and LOTR/Hobbit which are essentially "universe within" by having similar source material and roots are loved. avatar is loved by zoomers but even millennials and Gen X UNC's like the cards. same with falloutI also play a lot on MTGO and thats a whole new subset of global randoms, very few who say they hate UB (once in a blue moon you'll see a lobby with "no UB")so Mrs. No-Games, your claims have been debunked, once again. (also its GōtC not WOTC anymore since their core goal is promoting groomers, hope this helps). >>98709609have not seen this at all but its in the Silverquill Harry Potter-at-home precon. not a bad card though 1 less than anguished or vindicate and hits smothering, gleaming, rhystic, black market connex, O-rings, TOSKI, Blood Moon. a lot actually.
>>98709999Cocaine Kibler had the correct take on hydrid mana.
Wishes legal soon, friends!
>>98710021The context is that the game basically plays itself, all you do in most encounters (including bosses) is change between six roles while your characters automatically do their thing based on what role they're in.https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Paradigm
>>98710037I'm not familiar
>>98709614speaking truth to power here>>98709674this has been debunked. you're thinking of C[ancerous]EDH. bracket 4 is high power strategic commander, using the best cards to play powerful commanders (also known as S-CDR) you are still playing elder dragon highlander, commander, not trying to hit a combo like you're playing blackjack. HOPE THIS HELPS!>>98709999>aetherdrift did wellthis is. hilarious cope. mark rosewater is the ultimate cancer of modern MTG. him and the gaylords he has fostered to water down the greatest card game of all time need to all be expelled from GōtC (which then it would become WotC again, with good art and big breasted women on the cards again, plus RL abolished, thanks hasbro)>>98710013hybrid won't change because thats an anti-commander rule. if your commander doesn't have the mana symbol in it you cant play it. just like a sorcery cant be a commander, 2 creatures cant be commanders. if you do that you're playing house rules, even if they are "officially" recognized house rules they are still not legitimate, since GōtC has no real authority over the rules of EDH/Commander and those were not in the rules
>>98708559Can't hurt to try.
>>98710032>final fantasy and LOTR/Hobbit which are essentially "universe within" by having similar source material and roots are loved.>le approved UB>presented as if reading from a scriptFuck off plant
>>98710040this has always been an optional rule 0 that by the vast majority of players for decades has been declined
>>98709878It's a boros deck with a dozen secret commanders. Lightning, Aurelia, Cloud, Kellan, Amy Rose, Gisela... basically whoever drops into play first ends up getting voltroned or combo'd or helps set up the field so that if and when I do manage to play Razia the game ends that turn.>mediocreIt's bad. But, it wins.
>>98710072>optionalThe goyim can't make decisions like that on their own, they need daddy WotC to think for them.
>>98710067I typed that all off as stream of consciousness sorry youre too retarded and gay to accept reality. real players love UB and final fantasy and MTG are both heavily inspired by DnD which is heavily inspired by Lord of the Rings. its all different flavors of high fantasy which is all inspired by 900 year old stories of King Arthur and Merlin and so on. FF is a Japanese take on it, like a digital cousin to the card game of MTG. cope more
>>98710063He observed that the given reason for the change, which was that hybrid cards are "intended" to be played in either white OR green decks, was absolutely meaningless because in magic the gathering any card is intended to go in any deck with commander being the exception. The point of the format is restriction and exclusion.
>>98710103If WotC was a reasonable company, I'd be fine with the hybrid rules change. This being WotC, though, they'd make that change, then forcibly shoehorn in pushed mythics for colors they shouldn't be in by using hybrid mana.
I cast Phage the Untouchable from the command zone. Response?
>>98710029Things change, and the retard seething bout it are the prime reason it should happen.
>>98710123I deflecting swat it to myself
>>98710123I activate Jhoira and put Torpor Orb into play.
>>98708751Delusions of mediocrity and Illusions of grandeur are neat.
>>98710029>>98710064>multicolor cards can't have monocolor identity, can't have them be put in timmy's mono deck that might break the game or something!>but monocolor cards with multicolor identity are a-ok, gimme the sloppa!there is no defending what is essentially sheldon's card game version of gender identity and anyone still kvetching over this are trannies themselves
>>98710123Honestly if you have the balls to play Phage you deserve to let it hit the field. I'll still have a kill spell in hand if she's pointed my way though.
>>98710123flash in valley floodcallerflash in manageyserflash in underworld breachflash in wheelflash in manageyserflash in wheelflash in manageyserflash in manageyserflash in manageyserflash in crackle with power x is lethal to all players
>>987101625c ability slop commanders are a different argument, and should be replaced with rulebreaker to minimize good stuff piles going forward.
>>98710167What now faggot?
>>98710172currently the only way for a multicolor card to have a monocolor identity is hybrid and you're dumb to argue against it other than clutching your pearls at 'sheldon's vision', the same guy who oversaw sen triplets change btw
>>98710123I cast Demonic Consultation, naming Chandra, Chill of Compliance. It's not in my deck because I'm running mono-black and also it's not released yet. If that resolves, I'll somehow try to cast an instant draw spell to lose the game before Phage ETBs.
>>98708751One of my few decks, and I've grown to hate it.I thought it would be fun, playing around with politics and controlling the game with clever exchanges and helping weaker players punish the players who bring overpowered decks, but it never actually did anything. I could never get the engine up and running, and that was even back when EDH was much slower than it is now.
>>98710072Could rule 0 hybrid mana, and yet....>>98710093P L A N T>>98710103>he point of the format is restriction and exclusion.Correct take>>98710121Wizards is completely in control of what cards are printed and if they want players to have "more options" they only have to print them. There is no justification for changing the rules to their most successful format just because they want to>>98710162>card game version of gender identityThis faggot again.How about you just go back to shitposting about lolis and how great UB is? Or kill yourself. I know which I'd prefer for you
>>98710246uh oh tranny melty
>>98710162Does this Nick Fury work with like Illusionist Bracers to copy his activated ability? Or will it fizzle since it only happens once
>>98708281BEND THE KNEE TO THE QUEEN OF MONOGREEN
>>98710266yes you canyou can only activate the ability once but you can copy it as many times as you can while it's still on the stack
>>98708751Problem I have with Zedruu is if you aren't ignored you get smeared unless you're willing to be the meanest asshole at the table. Steel golem/grid monitor, aggressive mining, alexios, pyromancer's swath/grafted scullcap, statecraft, etc. Group hug only works on dumb players.
>>98710164I have a Phage deck full of suicidal cards. I've never lost to anyone but myself playing it.
Thoughts on Head Games?
>>98710264HE SAID THE THING!
>>98710300pretty good in late gameswapping a player's hand with all lands or cards useless with the current boardstate can grind their plan to a halt
>>98709200TOPKEK
>>98710264>>98710323What is the final solution to the tranny menace? How do we purge them out of mtg?
>>98710296post list
>>98709334McFucking kill yourself
>>98710346End UB
>>98710334Alternatively, give them nothing but hate pieces for the board states of the other two players until they kill him for you.
>he's letting his sexual obsession with trannies bleed into benign mtg discussion again.
>note how he never asks if people even like trannies in the first place
epic
I want to run Lavinia control/stax for my Azorius deck. Is the Pool/Omen Machine combo thing viable for Bracket 3 games?
>>98710346End UW
Thoughts?
>>98710123Stifle, on the condition you attack me last.
>>98710420these types of conditional boros instant damage spells should have 'draw a card' stapled to them, prove me wrong
What about this?Have been playing it in Mardu but it hasn't done me any good so far, cut a Path of Bravery for it so I think it's an improvement
>>98708053>TQThis trash.
>>98710432I can't, you're objectively right
>>98710358https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ultrablack-suicide/First game I played with this I won with Repay in Kind at -1 life.
Jesus is tempting me with all these precons. The Polymorph one for its lands and interesting cards for other commander decks and the monocoloured ones for a kind of box to play with friends who don't have their own decks. Is 50€ for the Jace one and 25€ for the others a fair price?
>>98710461Jesus would want you to only pay MSRP for the decks and not let the Synagogue of Satan charge you any more.
>>987104372 CMC mana rock that comes in untapped and uncaps hand. Literally no reason not to play it unless you somehow run a "pips matter" deck or something stupid. If your spells have generic mana in the cost you might as well have it.>inb4 "uncapping hand size isn't that good!!!!"There's just no reason not to. This "just keep the best cards when you discard" thing is stupid. Cards do different things in different situations, you'd always rather have more options than discard something because it doesn't look useful now and then wish you had it later
>>98710476Filtered by Thought Vessel I see.
Honestly, moving away from the polymorph package for this deck wouldn't change it by much. I'm keeping it together like this for a bit, but I'm already puzzling what should be cut in such a scenario. Even without the polymorph cards, the polymorph targets are excellent in the deck.The only things that would likely go here are, what? >Proteus Staff>Chaos Mutation>Synthetic Destiny>Divergent Transformation>Descendants' Fury>Jin Gitaxias>Iron Man (maybe?)Even without a strict polymorph package Reality Scramble is a really good card. This deck just got such a wealth of upgrades in the form of Final Fantasy job select cards. It's actively painful to cut things for slots. idk what I'd slot in besides Trinket Mage. Maybe a few more answers. Bonehoard and Scytheclaw to keep the wins living weapon oriented.Are (you) brewing anything anon?
>>98710435>'creatures you control get +1/+0' is a 2.5 mana effect>'creatures you control have haste' is a 2.5 mana effect>conjuror's closet is a 4 mana effectThere's pros and cons to the blink being until your upkeep, but it's solid, compresses a lot of effects into one card, and probably just costs too much at once in the end.
>>98710495Can you explain why it's ass other than it doesn't suck you dick nonstop? Because otherwise Thought Vessel is good.
>>98710499>Are (you) brewing anything anon?Miku Trostani
>>98710461The polymorph deck is the only precon I have bought in the last 10 years. I love how bumfuck the creature selection is and I will never make a single change to it. Also the prices you listed are msrp so I'd say go for it if you think they're cool.
>>98710526
>want to run more gravehate because graves are increasingly problematic>struggle because my decks abuse grave too
>>98710499Sifting through zombies is giving me as massive headache
>>98708751love locking the game with decree of silence + solemnity and then slowly burning my opponents with form of the dragonjust lean heavy on pillow fort / stax, none of that faggot group hug shit
>>98710518There are better mana rocks like Mind Stone and Fellwar Stone. Also discarding down to 7 is an advantage for most decks. It's not 100% unplayable card. But a very niche 3rd or 4th pick mana rock. Super overrated as per TQ.
>>98710103>The point of the format is restriction and exclusion.No, the point was to have fun. Color identity was always a weird rule, and mostly comes out of the fear that people would be using 5-color rocks and lands to splash in cards like Rhystic Study or Smothering Tithe into every deck. Hell, with the right mana base, a deck could potentially cast any card of 7+ CMC with one colored pip of any color fairly reliably. Cyclonic Rifts for everyone!Though, Hybrid cards being locked out of decks because of what amounts to an accident of birth doesn't sit right with me.Take Soulfire Grand Master. I wanted to include it in a Boros deck, but couldn't because while its ability could have cost 2RR, they instead chose to make it easier to use that ability. Their decision to make the card playable in more decks ironically made it unsuitable in EDH for Azorius decks as well, so only America+ can play it. It doesn't really make sense. I can understand that nowadays people don't want to see every deck that runs green or white to play Fracturing Gust or Privileged Position or otherwise see powerful hybrid cards much more often in a format that's become increasingly more overrun by ubiquitous "staples", but most hybrid cards just have superior mono-colored or gold alternatives and are otherwise costed to be weaker for being easier to cast.
>>98708053>TQi’ve heard a lot of people say triomes are overrated. im mostly a mono player so im not so sure myselfcan any anons give their take?
>>98708053Has it been unbanned yet?
>>98710603They are overrated. They exist to be fetches for shocks and Farseek etc. You don't want them in your hand
>>98710603Most my decks are two colors, but I think the main draw to them is just fetching.
>>98710603They're alright, especially 4+ color. But for three color decks they're just alright. I wouldn't consider them worth their money but I'd include them in 3 color decks (cycling is good).
>>98710584>No, the point was to have fun.Oh just throw all the rules out the window then right? Anon just said the purpose of the format is not to play the game with a specific set of rules that distinguishes it from other formats- actually all that matters is that he's having fun.Actual fucking retard take. Get out of my hobby.
>>98708559DICKS OUT FOR HOROBI
>>98710420I want to like it, but I dropped it from my deck because it would just sit in my hand as a dead draw up until someone made an army which made it basically useless. I'd much rather see either some spot removal or even a Dawn Charm, because those come in handy much more often and you're not waiting for the one time someone finally decides to swing at you with their voltroned commander and you actually have it in your hand.
>>98710624>but muh rules!!!lol>rules were changed so sen triplets worked>the way commanders went to the cz was changed so death triggers worked>tuck was changed>wishes were changed when before they could workhow much of a tranny are you that hybrid is your line in the sand?
>>98710420Go tall is dead and so is this. Everything is go wide now.
>>98710624I understand you're just trying to be ornery, but If a rule makes the game less fun rather than more, that rule should be changed. It's that simple. I generally like the concept of color identity. But, the idea of treating hybrid mana as being outside of your commander's color identity has always been an odd decision and didn't seem to really understand what hybrid mana was about. I'm also including the idea of Phyrexian mana into this, since those also were designed to be treated as cards that could be cast in decks that didn't run their colors, though I can understand in a format with 40 life it's quite a bit different and we'd see Gitaxian Probe and Birthing Pod and a dozen other cards much more often than anyone would care for.
>>98710603A few is good. You just don't run all of them.
>>98709808Nice, where did you print it? Printshop or your own printer? I'd like to try
>>98710473It is MSRP though.
>>98710162>my red and blue card identifies as mono blueYou can try to astroturf it all you want, it's actually the gender crew who wants the change
>>98710695My own printer. Epson 2800
>>98710632>Dawn CharmI like that one, but couldn't get my hands on one yet
>>98710715>my white westoid ass identifies as all colors of the rainbowcope, it's the trannies that like hybrid as is and they don't want it removed because it exposes their lunacy
>>98710408I can't fucking wait until we get more Ixalan vampires.
>>98710734hybrid mana is multi-coloured seethe
>>98710748tick tock tranny
>>98710748True and factual, my Flashfreeze can counter Fracturing Gust for a reason.
>>98710435I forgot it blinked artifacts too lol
>>98710734You're making zero senseLook at this anon >>98710584>but I want to even though I can'tIs akin to>but I want to be a woman even though I'm notYou can be in favor of the hybrid change for other reasons, but trying to astroturf it to the pol crew through buzzwords is not sound logic, because it follows to the opposite of the point you're trying to make
>>98710767I'd say good luck keeping it, but you should have enough evasive creatures Resolve gives haste to that it shouldn't be too bad.
>>98710769>please don't ask how edh got gender identi- i mean color identity in the first place!you're not fooling anyone tranny, you can't even fool yourselfmulticolor cards *will* have monocolor identity soon enough, wotc didn't buy the commander IP just to be stymied by the rules of a dead man
>>98710739To be desu, I only play Clavileño, Legion Lieutenant and Duskbourne Skymarcher for the 1 drop March of the Canonized is cool thoughReally want a Charismatic Conqueror
>>98710799No, resolve blinks it until his upkeep, so nobody can steal it and he gets the etb draw every turn.
>>98710817oh shit, I thought it was just a standard blink. That's even better.
>>98710756>if you don't worship this Jew and accept arbitrary rule changes so wotc can sell more UB, you're a trannydoesn't even make sense
>>98710808>multicolor cardsyou meant to say hybrid mana, trannybut yes, they're in fact multi-coloured
>>98710828you holding out to the RC that sold you out makes as much sense as a crazy ex, and i'm sure you're just as mentally unstable
>>98710808No anon please ask. Will you tell me?
>>98710835why can't multicolor cards have monocolor identity again, you tranny? gender is supposed to be fluid isn't it?
>>98710845you're just mad you got filtered by deck building, tranny
>>98709334>carrying about cEDHIf I like a card, I'll play a card. Simple as.
>>98710865absolute projection from a mentally ill troon that gets filtered by intellectual properties
>>98710029Based opinion.
>>98710860because they have multiple colours
>>98710881ticky-tocky chicken jocky
>>98710894you obviously don't even know the difference between hybrid and multicolor
>>98710901haha he never backreads>>98710188
>>98710029This Unmake is Orzhov, change my mind
>>98710650>>98710674>I am an emotionally stunted soiboi who needs to be constantly surrounded by sunshine and rainbows or I have a mental breakdown, and I will genuinely argue against games having rules because I would subjectively feel better if there were no rulesYou can't make this shit up
>>98710894Sure anon, just two more weeks right?When the next panel comes, if it's not changed, I can point and laugh and you, and viceversaDeal?
>>98710930>how much of a tranny are you that hybrid is your line in the sand?>THIIIIS BIIIIIGkekaroo
>>98710938You have been shitposting in this general for years about every topic anyone could possibly have a take on. You have this habit of posting really exaggerated reactions and pretending you find everything hilarious.You have no reason to live and you should kill yourself.
>>98710769...What is wrong with you?Trying to make things political is one thing, but doing it in such a cringe and retarded fashion makes me wonder what the fuck is wrong with you.>>but I want to even though I can't>Is akin to>>but I want to be a woman even though I'm notThat's the most ridiculous stretch I've seen since your mangina. We're talking about arbitrarily defined rules that failed to appreciate how and why certain mechanics were made, not whatever identity politics shit you're pointlessly trying to stir up.
>>98710937>it's been 20 something years since sheldon said hybrid is only for multicolor>thinking i can't wait that long>or that wotc won't act at all in the interimtick tock fren, i have all the time to wait :)
>>98710943>if i can't argue back it's shitposting!notice how only a few people like (You) have an issue about changes in a children's card game, because obviously you and your kind are mentally ill
>>98710963you're a trannylearn to live with the fact that hybrid mana symbols have the colours displayed on them
>>98710944Why don't you tell the other anon? It wasn't me who started the color identity = gender identity politics comparison. I'm merely explaining how you end up in the exact opposite conclusion he makes, if you want to follow that route. Which again, I didn't start
Oh hey it's a rerun of my favorite episode, the hybrid mana debate.It's a nothingburger. Actual Potential Mechanic. Nothing changes with or without it because basically every hybrid mana card is unplayably terrible. You know you're scraping the bottom of the barrel when you're saying "Yeah but Vivi would run Manamorphose," like Manamorphose would really be what pushes it over the edge. The game doesn't change at all with or without it.
>>98710976Unmake is awesome, you take that back
>>98710971>the mono fire deck has broccolli in it?! AAAAAIIIIEEEEElearn to live that wotc owns the game now, and with enough push from hasbro even they will betray the mentally ill base they've cultivated
>>98710976But we need to suck Sheldons dead cock, desperately
>>98710956So we got a deal? Say yes or no. I can call you names and laught at you all I want if it doesn't change next panel, and you have to take it like a champ. The same applies to me. Say yes or no, if you're not a bot
>>98710980NoCope & Dial 8, tranny
>>98710975>color identity = gender identitycorrectthey could've easily just named it color alignment, but they branded it as identity for obvious reasons
>>98710975I'll tell you both then.Stop acting like trolls and feeding into each other. Politics go into /pol/. Trolling goes into /b/.
>>98710985>hey we got to enjoy 20 years of current hybrid>but you MUST have what you want NEXT MONTH or I laugh at youif you had any principles you'd give me the same 20~ years, but we all know how your ilk thinks
>>98710993Its just one person.
>>98710990hybrid mana has the colour allignment which is displayed on the symbol
>>98710989>he can't even say dilate properlyyou're trembling and you're having a hard time today
>>98711001why does nick fury die to terror? he's got black in both the text box AND the melanin!
>>98710963Get out, troon
Hybrid being legal in monocolor should happen because it reinforces color identity.Hybrid is saying this is a thing monogreen can do and this is a thing monored can do. That means both of those colors should be able to use it. If it was something that needed to be gruul it would require both pips.
>>98711012and yet if you leave instead i immediately go away from your sight and you don't have to beg too!
>>98711014that's clearly Gruul
>>98710977NTA, but unmake WAS awesome. Now it's woefully underpowered.
>>98711014Let's compromise and say ONLY monocolor decks can get off-color hybrid mana then. And no 2-brid colorless bullshit either.
>>98711022How am I supposed to play that in Mardu??
>>98710994So no? You're afraid? Aww with all your uptight shitposting I didn't take you for a cowardAnyway, just twenty more years and you'll win. Lmao
>>98711026No
>>98711027Mana fixing just keeps getting better, anon. You may not be able to play it turn 3 every game, but there's enough good dual lands to make it possible.
>>98710963>if you don't indulge my shitposts I winYeah buddy you're winning at life
>>98711030>Anyway, just twenty more years and you'll win.yep just like investments, the payoff will come soon enough to the wise and patient :)i accept your concession.
>>98711027You'd just play Swords or Path instead. People who'd want Unmake in decks that can't make white are mostly just Mono-black players who want exile, except there's little reason even for that thanks to power creep. Anyone with white has always just had much better options for exile.
>>98711034and here you are unable to win a simple argument about a children's card gamelittle things matter you know; if you can't handle this what about the real stuff? kek
>>98711014You see that's simply a lie by Maro. I'll believe it when we get a mono white extra combat card to justify waves of aggression
The new Avacynn+ Shilgengar feels like it has potential, if you have a blood artist you just win
>>98711033No, thanks
>>98711037You're that "I must have the last post I win I win" anon aren't you? Reply or reference this post in any way or form if you're a trannyProtip you can have the last word in 20 years. Lmao x2
>>98711050with shilgengar as your commander all you need is a payoff to infinite LTBs/ETBs using avacyn and solemnity
>>98711050Wh the hell this is just straight up better than OG Avacyn in some decks lol
>>98711050I hate it
>>98711060>ha! i'll call him a tranny if he replies so I can have the last word!your projections and lunacy have no effect on me troon, your autism on legacy rules made by a dead man will soon go the way of the dinosaur and so too will your kind as a whole as well
>>98710300Extremely funny joke but worse than Mind Twist
>>98711049One could argue that it exists in the form of Finest Hour because white is bant's main color and extra combats sure aren't a blue or green thing.
>>98711061You can also run this and be a real cunt
>>98711049>mono white extra combat>WotC giving white good stuffMaybe mono blue extra combat, or simic hybrid if they go with that rule change.
>>98711070Self admitted troon lolYou win anon, I concede. I must now cope with having hybrid mana stay the way I want it for the next 20 years. I'm devastated I tell you
How much seethe will adding Boom & Bust, Bloodmoon and (pic rel) to my deck cause?
>>98711093now do you feel so silly being so angry when my point was so simple and clear? hahaha
Why is everyone talking about cards being unbanned and the hybrid mana? Is there an announcement or something?
>>98711119Next week probably.
>>98711119You know I thought so at first because someone said unbans in 1 hour, and that was 7 hours ago. But the only announcement I'm seeing on the website is Trek starter decks being cancelled.
>>98711119apparently gavin and co. are meeting today and people just hoped there would be an announcement
Do you guys like German Highlander?
I understand the hybrid argument from a flavor autism perspective but hybrid cards are some of the first things to get cut out of decks they're legal in. They're a bunch of draft chaff cards that were made to fill dual roles in limited archetypes and their powerlevel accurately reflects that. I really couldn't be fucked to care if the rules around them change.>muh manamorphoseI guarantee anons in this thread have dozens of GR+ decks not running this card
>>98711144I don't think I like German anything.
>>98711144I have only ever heard of Canadian Highlander. Are there highlander formats for every country?
>>98711168Shalom!
>>98711170No, just German and Canadian
>>98711170I must be playing Israeli highlander cuz meta decks go for 10,000+ dollars
What about Spanish higlander
>>98711125BAN RHYSTIC STUDY
this is my favorite card in the format
>>98711199Yesss
>>98711199never gonna happen. its the symbol of the format now
has anyone seen anyone freak out over a proxy or token that uses AI yet
>>98711199Ban Taint Pact and Thoracle and Demonic Consultation too pleaseAnd Kinnan too because fuck trannies
>>98711200did they forget to remind the artist that the townsfolk in this scene were hobbits
>>98711009>>98711200tranny fingers typed these posts
>>98711200I cast this every turn with my tevesh on my 0 mana abuse goblin
>>98711197With a scottish accent?
>>98709730I wish ai slop proxy makers would at least use newer models, that is the same over shiny shit that people have been doing for years
German Highlander:1v120 Life points starting everything's legal except Ban ListLondon Mulligan Best out of 3
>>98711236What the fuck is a 'london mulligan'
>>98711240https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/london-mulligan-2019-06-03
>>98711236So dual commander without the commandersYaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn
>>98711240It's the current mulligan rule
>>98711257Ofc with Commanders, what are you on about?
>>98711256also was at the last good UK tournament ...
>>98711215Please don't take this as identity politicsBut yes, a literal tranny in my lgs. Picture him as the very thin, greasy hair, glasses and skirt type. He took control of the telegram groups we use for lgs meetups in our city and bans anyone who shares an ai token. He also makes a scene whenever someone pulls out an ai token or a Nielsen card at his table, and gets up and leaves if he doesn't get his wayPersonally I tend to take a liking to these hubris retard types, in a laughing at clownworld way, but he's so annoying
>>98711221poor rograkh.
>>98711270>getting that buttblasted over Terese NielsenEh, he'll probably join the 41% with all that seething.
>>98711217Kinnan is the troon RnD team's crowning achievement. He will never be unbanned, he's basically the mascot of edh for WotC.
>>98711098unfortunately none because in bracket 4 they will get fierce'd and force'd and they will have already combo'd off on turn 3.
>>98711284What causes the seethe? Do I need more Nielsen cards?
>>98711078Extra turns and extra combats are basically the same. Just trading end of turn effects for untap and draw (which is infinitely better)
>>98711295brackets make no sense
>>98711297I think either her or her husband vocalized support for the truckers in Canada, so now she's persona non grata for having wrongthink in their politics.
looked through 3 pages of proxies for her and these are ones I thought were interesting, some people are starting to explore above the most generic ai proxies
>>98711306THAT'S it?How fucking gay of a reason is that?
>>98711297Nielsen is lesbian-married to someone who was following milquetoast conservatives on Twitter and doubled down instead of apologizing>Do I need more Nielsen cards?yes but that's because her art is awesome, not because of gay virtue signaling
>>98711300As much as I hate saying it, outside of the game changers it's mostly vibe based. My main deck is bracket 3 by playstyle and game changers, but it can hold its own against bracket 4 decks through virtue of well-placed removal.
>>98711316Gay enough that these faggots seethe over the existence of diversity of thought. I feel like J K Rowling is thriving half off the sheer butthurt these troons have for her, and half off the money she made off them previously.
>>98711306that was Seb McKinnon that did that, not NielsenMcKinnon seems to be not quite as canceled as Nielsen is. WotC still reprints his artwork from time to time. Nielsen's art hasn't appeared on a card since 2020.
reminder noah bradely was cancelled for too much consensual sex lmao
>>98711317Ahhh, I knew I saw her name on some cards
>>98711306She was already cancelled at that point, you're thinking Seb McKinnonFor Nielsen, her wife (she's a dyke) liked some tweets from Qanon figures and it snowballed from there
>>98711200>>98711221hmmmm
They just keep finding ways to remove good artists so they can get their butt buddies to get paid for slop like this
>>98711328that card is way too good
>>98711345Seb has an artstyle, and he knows how to make it work.https://www.sebmckinnon.com/illustration
>>98711344>eardrum rattler on vocals>transit mage on bassthe tranny band will be completed soon
>>98711330checked up on him and he is still making crazy good stuff, wish wizards would get him backhttps://x.com/noahbradley/status/2100599707475055018look at this
>>98711315>While posting some very generic ai proxies just with ugly schizophrenic graffiti formatting
>>98711344goes great in my gender-goblin tribal deck
>>98711300yup. but bracket 4 had the same issue back when people were doing the 1-10 scale, "9" could mean just about anything from verbatim cedh lists to "idk i put all my fast mana in a gishath deck" the "just below cedh" area will always be a shitshow of retards overestimating their decks, underestimating their decks, and people with shunned strategies like MLD getting bullied out of everywhere else.
>>98711350Ohhh, he did the Skymarcher!coolio
>>98711351>>98711356what about that black one from "Strixhaven 2: we still don't want to mention Harry Potter"?
I assure you dear viewer, the house based magic school has no harry potter influences
>>98711344>>98711356Does anyone have the artist's prompt for that simic fat boy commander where WotC literally said he had to be fat?
>>98711359Got a print of Topplegeist framed in my bedroom, just the perfect mix of horror and whimsy.
>>98711330I don't remember that wellHe slept with a bunch of chicks and when he didn't want to be their bf they accused him of assaultSomething like that?Happened to a singer in my undisclosed country. When I asked around even the most feminist didn't accuse him of assault, just the "crime" of being a womanizer. I could feel the personal frustration with chad not committing poured into him
>>98711356>>98711344I don't even hate depicting fat people there just seems to be a lack of soul in the new stuff. Is it the finely sanded punk aesthetics?
>>98711370It was faked. Stop believing obvious bullshit
>>98711357just because I play a tutor (Plea for Guidance) that can get me a potential infinite combo (Sanguine Bond + Exquisite Blood) while playing some soft Land denial (Hokuri, Bloodmoon) and a Mass Land Removal (Boom & Bust) doesn't mean it can't be a casual deck
>>98711376there wasn't even any assault accusations that was the funny part here, just lots of consensual sex and getting called a predator for it because of his "position of authority"
>>98711315yeah bro looks great
>>98711373niice
>>98711389I mean obviously that is dogshit and so are most of them, I just tried to pick the best looking
>>98711388So it's the same>you manipulated me into sex by being handsome and successfulHoes be crazy yo
Little tech tip here. If you run this dude as your commander you can run any card you like in your 99 and you never have to even cast him!
>>98711398I'm just joshing you anyway
>>98711406huge if true
Abdel the Symmetrical 4WLegendary Creature - Human WarriorWhen Abdel enters, each player exiles any number of permanents they control until Abdel leaves the battlefield and creates that many 1/1 soldier tokens.4/4
>>98711389As an expert on butts, that's not how butts work.That's not really how any part of the body works, but that butt actually makes me mad and I'm calling the Assyrian Butt Institution and reporting that butt so we can jointly sue whatever AI program made that butt.
>>98711422>exile everything but a single untapped plains>path to exileCool design.
>>98711431>Assyrian Butt Institutionkek
>>98711452>>98711431yeah unfortunately they lost a lot of funding when the Assad regime was deposed
>>98711270>>98711317>>98711334Fun fact. You can send her cards that have her art and she will sign them for free. I think she will do a max of 10 or 20 per person.
>>98711474these are (were) worth more than an Unlimited true dual by the way
>>98711466Thanks, but I don't want to devalue my cards by making them damaged.
>>98711389>Malformed pinky>can only make out 4 fingers on the other hand,Come on man. Just redo it. Genning AI is free, Hands and feet are the first thing I always check and if you can't fix it, just scratch it and start over.
>>98711474How come they haven't used this concept for a secret lair yet?
>>98711492They're basically one step away from it
>>98711492Does this count?
>>98711486>devalue They ain't worth nothin unless you seell them.
>devalued because of sig memeonly the most scummy of shops even try this when buylisting btw, it's trivial to sell for the same price with artist sig on, and mostly increases the price
>>98711514I'm sorry my cards are worth more than yours. Might as well just use proxies and proxy the signatures yourself.
Is this a genre-defining, A24, jumpscare-free commander that will reshape EDH?
>>98711556>spend mana as though it's any color>WUBRG costLiterally for what purpose? What dumbass designed this?
>>98711553If you never sell they are worth 0$. Are you going to sell?
>>98710881>become a vampire>you become dogshitImpressive
>>98711564It’s so xhe can be 5 color
>>98711569I buy and sell reserve list bulk all the time anon. Pays for my hobby.
>>98711009
>>98711591Can't attack or block bro.
>>98711317Man, Angels are so fucking cool on their art, I don't even care how 90% of them suck
>>98711389Where's her fucking tail
>>98711704So heckling cool dude.
>>98711743Hell yeah man
>>98711315You left out the best one
>>98711769Wow such detail, truly looks like her
>>98711061grinding station, and krark clan iron works to sac the blood tokens
>>98711769I love big tits but the fact I can't read shit on the card actually pisses me off. Same way how some secret lairs are so it's not just a proxy fag AI slop thing, but still
>>98711790I look like this and say this.
>>98711769If you want to play with the text box and type bars, fine, but fuck covering text annoys me
>>98711818I just wish they wouldn't all use the same default style
>>98711814You look like you got the genes you just need to workout and eat more bro
Be honest, but you don't want to see this card unbanned, do you?
>>98712077it's gonna be put as a GC that immediately pales in comparison to rhystic and others so there's no reason to keep it banned any longer
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/statement-on-the-cancellation-of-the-star-trek-beginner-boxdamn.... this changes everything...
>>98712140Who cares
>>98712077It's insta bracket 4 but also too weak for bracket 4 so who cares
>98712177Good point.
>>98712077put it in brago
>>98712140A couple of those are floating around, didn't they give some out at a Star Trek con like a month ago?
Somebody say Terese Nielsen?
>>98708053>want to get some old angel, sliver army and marit lage tokens for my decks>tokens are expensive as fuckfuck it, where the fuck can i buy proxy tokens? I am not going to give wizards money for fucking tokens
>>98712343They're tokens, just choose any art on the Internet and print your own.
>>98712343Take a piece of paper and make your own tokens kid.
>>98712343They're like 15-25 cents each on any website. Hell my LGS sells them for 10cents a pop. Unless they're super rare/only printed once like the 1/1 vanilla vampires from Edgar
>>98712343someone posted a website of some chink who printed foil tokens some time ago but i can't find the link in the archiveif anyone has the link, please post it. I want some foil version of pic related
>>98711503Why are gays obsessed with grooming kids using a children's card game? It's weird af
>bracket 2 final boss
>>98712281>banned and memoryholed for the crime of liking a wrong think tweet.
>>98712407Back when I had my Fynn deck, this card resolving and not dying was the only time I ever won any games
>>98712356>commander 2017 1/1 black vampire/2/2 black zombie token, $2>insisted remastered 1/1 black vampire/2/2 black flying vampire token, $6Sheesh.
>>98712407Naw here's a REAL b2 final bossLiterally impossible to lose if you have this up
the real boss of bracket 2
>>98712457>"aw geeze i forgot to leave mana up for ghostly prison, well i GOTTA attack somebody, so take this 30 damage sorry anon"
>>98712424Fun fact all 1/1 vampires have always had lifelink. Edgar was the first and only card to make vanilla 1/1 vampires
>>98712473No way fag.
>>98712473based gamestate advancer
>>98712472Hullbreaker Horror is the final boss in every bracket
>>98712482lol imagine
Going to send WOTC one thousand letters politely asking them to print Crow Storm in any format. It's not a broken card, it's not even a good card in most formats.
>>98712533Wow, this is one of the most boring and tame silver border cards ever. It's not ever a real card. They could've least made it an instant.
>>98711385Lying to yourself isn't funny.
UNBAN MY ZESTY ELF YOU WOTC FUCKS
>>98712689only when they find a way to print og duals again
>>98712701Well if you count 30th anniversary I suppose that's happened
>>98712689Are you going to kill yourself when yet another no unban happens
>>98712719No. I'll probably just still play it anyway.
>>98712799NEW>>98712799
>>98712281Hell Yeah
>>98712678What are you trying to say, that I'm wrong and actually Mardu Vampires are totally bracket 4?
>>987130742 card infinites are literally bracket 4 you retard.
>>98713562Exquisite Blood + Sanguine Bond still needs a trigger, retard
>>98711459underrated
>>98713686Bloodbond on its own can function in bracket 3. If you're just trying to turbo it out ASAP, that's where it hits bracket 4.
>>98714341I don't, it's basically flavor
