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>News
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>Previously
>>98686619

>TQ
Favorite creature that puts itself into play without spending mana?
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>>98712290
>TQ
Muh boy.
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it just hit me that original ixalan is turning 10 years old next week, think I'll try to update my old golgari explore list into a pioneer deck to celebrate

>TQ
hogaak
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>>98712320
>is turning 10 years old next week
9* years old, my bad I should not post while I'm in bed
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Why don't wizards take inspiration from their other successful TCG, Duel Masters (which regularly outsells MTG in Japan), and add more anime waifus? surely that would sell more than Universes Beyond.
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>>98712361
I'm pretty sure SOS only happened so they could do the Japanese mystical archives again
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>>98709385
>Cutting them in half and abbreviating further might work as a way to squeeze the deck details onto the bottom border
Man, why didn't I think of that? I'll pick up a xacto knife tomorrow.
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>>98712361
They are still run by prudes so they won't make the anime women on Magic cards as sexy as on Duel Masters cards. You're not getting nerds with thunder thighs wearing 3 inch miniskirts or big boobied 12 year olds in Magic.

>>98712320
Until they banned Amalia, Abzan Explore was a top tier Pioneer deck.
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art deco-winged flapper token? based
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>>98712443
Absolutely sexless. This set looks beyond soulless. It's like those old TV shows/cartoons from the 90s like Sorbo Hercules where at some point they introduce evil alternate universe versions of the main characters, and that's when you know things are getting desperate. They even threw in a shitty new reprint of TarmoGOY.
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Quick Pre-Release run down? What should I look out for and build?
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>>98712443
we should have gotten more sets on new capenna and mkm should have been there too
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>>98712463
New Crapenna was doomed because WotC was too cowardly to make a cop faction after the death of Saint Georgius Floydius.
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>>98712455
agree with your general distaste for the Echoverse mirrored pairs but don't see how the angel connects to that (also Planar Chaos did it first lol)
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>>98712463
>Roaring 20s hat plane
>barely even an attempt to make it fantasy-flavored
>no cops to fight the robbers
>not even the Angel Untouchables
I hold a special place of contempt in my heart for SNC
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>>98712502
>hat plane
that's not a thing and it it was then OG ISD would be one too, which it isn't because, again, it's not a thing.

anyway it has goblins and magic and shit. people punch and stab each other instead of using guns. you don't like Eberron?
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play premodern
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>>98712515
Need more white Goblins.
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>>98712515
SNC is a hat set set on a plane of hats
>instead of using guns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>98712200
Yes but the flawed premise here is that an LGS needs "preferred access" to Magic product, even when Magic isn't profitable to order in the first place.
If the UB that sells at FIN/TLA rate makes up the losses on TMT, then that's the WPN system doing what it has always done since the block era forcing stores to get sets 2 and 3 of a block (give WotC stability by forcing stores to absorb losses on bad sets and keeping demand at less volatile levels).
However I suspect the real claim trying to be argued is that "most UB is TMT level and is ruining stores" which isn't true. If this was enough to make ordering MtG unprofitable, then stores would just stop ordering MtG even if it loses WPN status, because there's no point in maintaining WPN status if ordering MtG means losing money long-term. So clearly any losses are being recouped, and I don't think that's likely when UW sets cost half as much, and tend to be a little less popular overall (with bad UW sets like MKM/OTJ/DFT being EXTREMELY unpopular).
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>>98712550
I mean it is a magic device you gotta admit
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>>98712573
>So clearly any losses are being recouped
that's not "clear". it's definitely possible and your logic is sound but inertia, reticence and normalcy bias are all real factors at play here.
it's definitely not contraindicated by the evidence. I'm not even saying it isn't true (not the anon you were replying to btw). but I'm just saying nobody has access to industry-wide sell through data so it is possible that stores have lost money by maintaining wpn status in 2026
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>>98712573
>MKM/OTJ/DFT
these are pre-UB-in-Standard sets, it's a completely new paradigm now. UB stinkers are the shelf rotters while even middling UW sets like Lorwyn are gone in a matter of weeks, if that. I can still buy fucking Spider-Man at my LGS but I haven't seen a Lorwyn pack in the wild since like week 4. My LGS ran out within the first couple weeks. This is all downstream of Wizards's supply chain being completely fucked and stores being unable to order more after their initial orders, though.

At least three out of the six UB sets since their introduction to Standard have been shelf-rotters (and it's not looking good for Hobbit either). And you can bet your ass Star Trek is going to go over like a lead balloon.
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>>98712589
Just shoot em with your gun.
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>>98712620
DFT was in the same year as FIN and TLA which are 2/3 bestselling sets of all-time with the third one being LTR (LTR is #2 overall).
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>>98712674
yeah, FIN and TLA appear to be the anomalies rather than the norm.
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Is Empower Jace the worst mechanic of all time?
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>>98712620
>while even middling UW sets like Lorwyn are gone in a matter of weeks
ok bro
I liked Lorwyn
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>>98712732
I liked it too but it was still just "ok."
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>>98712698
>multiple meta defining cards
>set sells
Really jogging the nogging.
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>>98712723
Would you have prefer Transition Jace instead? Both players add/removing tokens fighting to swing Jace from one gender to the other?
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>>98712757
>UB needs to massively push power to sell
>UW just needs to exist
makes one ponder
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>>98712723
no one would have a problem with build-your-own-planeswalker if it wasn't explicitly Jace themed.
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Reminder Star Trek is going to break magic's fanbase.
Ironically UB is making Standard the best format (in 2029) because at least the sets are rotating out, other formats have to deal with Superior Spiderspam and Photon Torpedoes with their fantasy themed cards forever.
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>>98712800
the only Spider-Man card I've ever seen being played outside of Standard in the wild is a guy with a Hydro Man EDH deck
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>>98712698
If your whole top 3 bestselling sets of all-time are UB all from different sources, it's very hard to label this an anomaly. Especially when the sample size for "full UB set" is 6. 7 if you're desperate enough to count ACR.
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>>98712825
see but like I think they're out of good IPs. ff and lotr and avatar may have been the best possible candidates. pokemon and harry potter would do well but I think they're neverever tier
elden ring would probably sell copies though even though I wouldn't like it
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business idea: magic the gathering of the juggalos
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>>98712835
Now we're fucking talking
https://youtu.be/efd96WFkUN8
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>>98712825
LOTR was a straight-to-Modern set with a HUGELY pushed power level and had the added mover of the million dollar One Ring chase. FF and TLA, similarly, had very pushed power levels, and sure, they flew off the shelves. And not for nothing, but they are all fantasy themed and if you just changed the IP-related names, they'd slot right into the Magic universe without a problem, which might make them slightly more palatable. But at the same time, fantasy theming alone isn't enough to sell UB as Hobbit seems to show.

We don't yet have an instance of a mega-pushed UB set with sci-fi/modern theming to make a full comparison, but I'd be interested to see if power alone is enough to make UB sell to consumers.
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>>98712834
Habros needs mtg to print money, they'll dig for any IP willing to whore itself out. Star Trek is just breaking the ice on TV show licenses.
We'll see a Breaking Bad themed set very soon.
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>>98712883
>a set where literally every single creature is a human
>and one turtle
a bold strategy
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>>98712859
was ff that pushed though?
tla has a lot of cards that are great in commander. every time I open an avatar pack it seems like I open a playable card. and obviously TLA ran a train on standard too but I feel like by comparison FIN wasn't that deep especially after the Vivi ban
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>Legendary Creature - Heisenberg
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>>98712859
Can you name 3 cards from FIN seeing constructed play? Because to my knowledge the only notable cards were Vivi and Starting Town, with the rest of the set selling off Coomander bait. I guess you can argue TLA was more pushed with Earthbending being horribly-designed, and Grancestrall Recall.
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>>98712891
But Vivi wasn't pre-banned despite breaking multiple formats. They let the black man ran rampant before banning him.
The ban delay despite pro players pleading for something certainly wasn't to move sets right?
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>>98712901
BO3 tourney meta?
>that landfall bird
>Buster sword
>Zack
>Cloud
>esper origins
>Cecil
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>>98712476
nta but Planar Chaos was so much better than this shit. 1st thing they didn't feel the need to make the mirroed character in the same set. It was just a "well reality is going to shit and alternative versions of past characters started to show up". Time Spiral done so much better than Reality Fractured. I could respect 5 or 10 mirrowed characters in the main set but having 95% of the legendary cards being pairs is really bothersome, it is like wotc think we are as retarded as them on not being able to recognize a character by its name + art + rules (to be fair I admit I wasn't able to recognize 60% of them but now everyone has access to scryfall or gatherer so we can search for the name).

Anyway lots of missed opportunities in this set, mostly because of the shit designers.
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>>98712904
man I guess
they really did take a long time to ban that card
>>98712930
buster sword sees play outside of commander?
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>>98712993
Thanks to Hobbit. Aggro dwarves with equipment is part of standard meta.
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>>98712930
I can give you the landfall bird, but Cecil was only playable for a brief window when Cut Down rotated before we got ECL, and the others I don't recall.
I'll be honest though I don't really see it because landfall as a strategy didn't take off until TLA added Earthbending which was the lynchpin enabler. Compare EOE which had Ouroboroid and Icetill Explorer which were also played in landfall. FIN doesn't stand out as a particularly pushed set to me aside from Vivi/Starting Town. It's about average.
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>>98713002
Vivi destroyed standard. You had Vivi or you had <50% win rate.
Must have card for pro play, you bet people were opening packs to sell that mythic rare single.
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>>98712550
It more of a theme park set rather than a hat set.
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I hope the future Kamigawa sets includes more Japanese flavor cards like Bard's Bow.
African's also use Musical Bows so maybe Neo-Wakanda can introduce more archery to Bards.
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>>98713011
Outlier cards don't make a whole set pushed. TDM didn't cause dragons to even chart top 10 decks, but Cori-Steel Cutter saw success by virtue of supporting an archetype that was already prevalent in Standard, similar to Vivi.
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>>98712859
i would guess a full 40k UB set will sell very well to the GW whales
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>>98713674
>GW raising prices
>DLC for Rogue Trader
>Dark Heresy crpg releasing
>DOW4 sometime
>40K Total War also coming
How deep are their wallets?
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>>98712723
I'll need to play with it to judge, but it doesn't really seem too bad to me. At baseline it's just accumulating a resource that can be converted into draw or surveil as you prefer, which is fine, and there are a few ways it can be a bit more interesting than that if you give your planeswalkers extra loyalty abilities or make a non-empower jace token.
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>>98712723
they could easily branch it out in the future if you don't want to just be using Jaces
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>>98713820
Not deep enough for that Space Marine codex that's £250
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>>98712723
I've been doing some test drafts, and yes - it is really fucking awful. The only upside is that the tokens let you filter / draw so many cards for both players that the games don't tend to last very long but god damn, every attack phase is a chore.
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What sets represent peak Magic? Has the game already entered its "Zombie Simpsons" era?
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>>98712723
"The ring tempts you" and "suspected" are still worse imo.
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>>98713883
We're going to see empower again, but it's very difficult to justify lorewise. You can't easily repurpose this keyword on most settings. It's also confusing for new players because it's Empower X but it doesn't apply to real X cards.
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>>98714026
No. It's EDH Mania era.
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>>98714139
She certainly is.
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I'm still waiting for the never done before, impossible to do up to this day thing that Reality Fracture that MaRo promised
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>>98714421
When did he promise something like this?
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>>98712883
>Was asleep for TWD and Stranger Thigs SLs.

>>98712891
TLA has Badgermole Cub.
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>>98714421
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>>98714421
Kill off Jace?
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>>98714421
He forgot they already did Planeswalker tokens
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>>98712290
What reality would (you) fracture?
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>>98714421
My guess is having the Eldrazi being the "good guys"; and even then, it's negligible
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>>98714586
Now that actually card was revealed it would be triple all damage.
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>>98714421
It was the paired cards showing up together in a pack without the specialized Japanese printers.
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>>98714586
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>>98714673
>>
Play Premodern
Free Mono White
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What?
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>>98714488
blog
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>>98714733
wow based
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>>98714733
Mono White sucks in Premodern thodobeit.
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>>98714550
Can someone make a cum tribute edit of this please thanks.
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>>98714733
I feel like I'm getting mixed signals here
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>>98714733
Fucking Basado
I denounce the talmud
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>>98714813
does this picture pleases master?
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>>98714848
Premodern has Armageddon and actual mono white true pie mechanics.
Nu-color pie Magic is kike’d White
What is confusing about any of that?
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>>98714900
Hell ya brother! True white power and shit!
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>>98714855
Haha fuckin saved thanks a bunch
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So much for planar chaos 2, this is just regular color pie with a reference for content creator boomers
HEY REMEMBER THAT GUY, HE IS WHITE NOW (and sucks)
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>>98714951
Why?
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>>98714926
>Oy vey look at my heckarino shitpost!
Found the goyim
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>>98715060
So i can email it to maro
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>>98715224
Again, why?
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>>98715060
>>98715300
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>>98714026
2025 is the mania era.
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>>98715300
Because im based
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>>98715409
Based on what?
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>>98715419
gay manga
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>>98715432
This only raises more questions.
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>>98715452
are you prepared to face the answers?
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>>98715409
I guess it all stems back from childhood trauma and how i cope today.
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Is Standard ready for 3 years of Star Trek?
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>>98715539
who did they brownwash this time?
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>>98715539
There are Spiderman and Marvel cards in Modern now this game is fucking finished it has no identity anymore it's just some fucked card game version of Multiversus
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>>98715539
This game is so COOKED is unreal man
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Reminder that Khan Noonien Singh is a reprint of the $100 Sheoldred so you will be playing against him in paper and online
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>>98715635
>singh
>not red/blue
saaaaaaaar
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>>98715662
He is black like the soles of jeet feet
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>Final set of the year
>UB set
It's gonna be another Earthbending/Grancestral Recall scenario, won't it?
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>>98715779
Everything trek has shown us is that it's either mind numbingly boring or commanderslop. Unlike avatar, which isnt as big and needed life altering cards to sell packs, trek seems unlikely to be impactful as they can bank on sales from IP strength alone.
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Merfolk
Turtles
Octopi
Fische
Seahorse
Some gay underwater civilization. Probably humanoids. Fuck that.
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>>98715830
>Detroit
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Why are they printing shock lands AGAIN? are they really that worried about star trek selling
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is it just me or does saffronolive suck at this game? richard is sussy asf sometimes but im pretty sure a majority of seth's losses are from either keeping terrible opening hands or an inherent misunderstanding of how the deck he's playing works. he literally plays mtg for a living how is he so mid??
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>>98715830
It's going to be not!Atlantis. Mark my words.
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>>98715879
mulling is for chumps
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>>98715879
Does Richard play commander?
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>>98715879
MTG really has almost no good content creators
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>on the play
>win
>on the draw
>lose
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>>98714586
>Treshold: you win the game
Probably ok at 8 mana
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>>98715583
>3 UB every year
Next franchise guesses? DC comics?
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>>98715953
we will get 40k at some point, the crossover between paypiggies is a cash cow for wizards. Another marvel or two as well
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>>98715968
Uh anon, you may want to sit down...
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>>98715979
did that sell badly?
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>>98715968
>2027
>UW: not aquaman
>UB: X Men
>UW: not godzilla
>UB: Superman/batman
>UW: not black panther
>UB: Warhammer?
Magic unironically peaked with Urza block. Combo winter wasn't so bad, at least the art and atmosphere was magic.
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>>98715986
It did sell well. Every set is selling well. Just some worse than others.
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>>98715992
did that sell worse than others?
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>>98715998
Commander decks were probably best sellers of all the time.
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Star Trek needs a Badgermole Cub and an entirely new t1 deck self contained within the set
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>>98715879
It took MtG players 6 years to figure out that 4x Git Probe goes in everything because pseudointellectuals thought knowing your opponent's entire hand wasn't useful information. I'm not exactly holding my breath on the average player playing well.
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Tbh I would have been ok with having UB restricted to fantasy settings that are battle focused like Warhammer and 40K. The LotR on the other hand is not.
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>>98716019
LoTR and Hobbit are the best UB flavor-wise we have got tho
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>>98716019
Fuck that. I want crazy UBs that actually bring new shit to the table. Give me Furby and MLP sets. I want wacky shit that makes every set feel different, not more elfslop.
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>>98716019
You are the root of all this evil.
Allowing any form of UB is the reason why we are here.
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>>98716048
>fuck that I want my fetishslop
you dont say
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>>98712290
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>>98716061
At least Furby would feel different from the 500th set with a dragon in it.
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>>98716067
The Furby set would have a dragon in it too if it takes place in the Magic multiverse
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>>98716067
and if your fetish was dragons you would want another Tarkir set or a UB How to Train Your Dragon set. no one cares faggot
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>>98716071
That's why UB is better than more elf and dragon slop.

>>98716078
Okay furry you have 30 years of jerkoff material now let the normal people enjoy something different like a UB about Dexter.
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I abhor non-fantasy UB.

I also am fucking tired of dragons, and recently, sphinxes.
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>>98716128
>recently, sphinxes
what sphinxes have we even had recently? I know we get a couple in FRA but what else
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>>98715908
The only ones I know are
>Spratek
>Mengucci
>Cardmarket EU
>MagicAIDS
There was also ChipKayPlays but I think he hung it up.

Magic content as a whole fucking sucks and I cant imagine unironically supporting faggots like CommandZone and SaffronOlive.
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>>98716128
>Bro gets sphinxes in ONE set and he's already tired of them
Lover of fantasy aesthetic hates fantasy elements. Has yet to discover mudcore stories.
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>>98716144
Magic's Sphinxes are kinda gay looking
The Hexhaven Sphinxes just look stupid as shit
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>>98716130
>we get a couple
8.

>>98716144
>strawman
kys
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>>98715998
Nobody brings it up to constantly defend UB like they do with LotR or Final Fantasy, so i guess it didn't revoutionize sells or anything
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>>98715879
>. he literally plays mtg for a living how is he so mid??
he's not payed to be good, he's payed to be entertaining
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>>98714026
>What sets represent peak Magic?
Ravnica into Coldsnap into Time Spiral into Lorwyn into Alara.
Of course, a lot of old frame are beautiful and kino, but in the modern era it was around that time.
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>Believing that Magic is going to survive 5 years UB kike slop
https://youtu.be/noOk2yeCB_s?is=vfF8rXX63dmj0G4H
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>>98715879
Nobody watches le epic tryhard guy, what sells is le funny mistakes
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>kino concept
>shitty no-name artist who only makes garbage
Come on...
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>>98716221
Okay Billy, you can just say your favorite game is KCD 1 but you wish it was easier to play.
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>>98716304
>Massive powercreep into awful set (for contrast) into massive powercreep into massive powercreep into mythic rarity (massive powercreep)
Notice how many of these sets introduced cards that are Modern/Legacy staples today.
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>>98716304
Ravnica mindbroke WotC. Beginning of the end. We've never truly recovered.
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>>98716331
for what purpose?
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>>98714026
Invasion block, 7th Edition, Odyssey block Onslaught block. Original Mirrodin was the primordial spark of fire design.
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>>98715879
He's just genuinely bad. His card assessment is bad as well. And he does these really dubious decks that are not working from the onset.

He likes the game, and he does shit ton of content for it, so I guess that playing it is just secondary for him. Possibly he's also burned out on it. On the positive, he's not netdecker. He tries brewing his own stuff, even if that stuff isn't even jank worthy.
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>>98716331
I dunno, I think it's a pretty nice look for ol' Niv. And it certainly offers the opportunity for fancy art treatments in the future.
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>>98714126
that ended in 2018
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>>98715830
>detroit
do blax even know about mtg?
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>>98716590
its the underwater set as well lol
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>>98716590
i thought they all played Yu-Gi-Oh! If they did play TCGs
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>>98716590
Fucking Cedric is the realest nigga though?
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>>98716331
The fuck is this though. Didn't Kaya kill Obzedat, and then Teysa took over the council?
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>>98716787
Niv's in charge of all the guilds now. It was mentioned in passing during the BLB story by Ral. Apparently he's forcing the Simic to indulge his gooning fantasies.
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>>98714026
The golden era of Legacy is generally agreed to be when SCG were heavily invested in it preKTK, but maybe a little bit either side of then. Some people believe it's up to and including ROE, because Stoneforge Mystic and later Delver, Thalia and Snapcaster changed the texture of the format. I more agree with the other guy though and think the era of Extended was more iconic; there are countless iconic decks that can trace their ancestry to Extended.
https://mtgtop8.com/format?f=EX
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>>98714026
Magic has been in a state of "This game sucks now and was way better before" since I was playing in fucking 5ED. Game fully supported by nostalgia vision making them think the past was way better than it actually was.
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>>98717077
There are people who idolize combo winter without every having to play through it.
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>>98714762
Well can you post it?
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>giant cindermaw
kino card
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>tfw no magic playing hillbilly gf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5GstcF-b4Q
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settle for any gf first
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>>98717232
I don't want a gf (male).
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>>98716787
it's from the Echoverse, niv mizzet died like a hundred years ago there
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sylvan library except it's black and called transylvanian library
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>>98716435
Niv Mizzle can draw way more cards and goes infinite with a ham sandwich (as Nivs do)
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>>98717506
He also costs twice as much and doesn't let you access blue.
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>>98717400
Right I forgot about the thing.
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>>98717400
he specifically died fighting the Nephilim during what would have been the original Ravnica block
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>>98716331
I don't think it's a bad illustration. not one of the best but very very far from the worst.
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>>98717513
yeah so they fill different niches dont they
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>>98716590
Only that JOTC loves to splatter them on mono white cards
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>>98717534
Fair enough.
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>>98715986
It sold amazingly well but Games Workshop is against gambling so it forbid wizards from making booster packs (BASED)
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Humiliation ritual.
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>Cavern of Souls rotating out
Ready for winter of Control?
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>>98712296
I hope something fucking terrible happens to you.
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>>98717708
Why?
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>>98717708
Don't worry, he will never sexo the witch
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>>98717646
How does that work with the gacha minis GW sells in Japan
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>set where Jace becomes a woman
>main mechanic is called "Empower Jace"
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>>98717813
>jace becomes a woman
>dies
what did WOTC mean by this?
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I dipped out of Magic when they started having Spiderman on cards so I have no idea what's going on in the lore. There are a bunch of new characters I don't recognize and they're doing an evil multiverse thing and Jace is a troon and also the mastermind villain of the franchise?
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>>98717817
You tell me.
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>>98712320
it's pointless in a format with fatal push and screaming nemesis
>>98712411
that is NOT how sultai explore played at all back in the day. amelia company was a retard combo deck with fucking chord and random removal that was also lands
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>>98717834
all of the "new" characters are old ones from pioneer legal sets
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>>98717834
his autism cordoned itself off from the rest of his brain, his autism aspect was the mastermind over the objections of the other facets of his personality
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>>98715830
No Aquatic Elves? No Tritons? No Sirens? No misunderstood Creature from the Black Lagoon?
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>>98717914
Not even lobster peeps? I was promised Homarids, and even if they're not typical arthropods, if it means I'll have a playable bug deck, I'll run them.
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Predict Star Trek sales:
>lower than aetherdrift higher than murder in a mansion
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>>98717967
>>98717914
I was promised a Salamander invasion 15 years ago!
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>>98717669
Okay Timmy whatever you say.
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>>98718047
>salamander can't count
Get back in your bowl you discount Homarid.
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>>98717985
Mythic bomb that rotates 2 formats and makes it into the #3 set of all-time.
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>>98717985
Scared with how crazy >>98718058 they're going to make UB sets the core-set so weaker and made for newer players.
This will not stop it from being the #2 set behind FF because of star trek fans.
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>>98716331
This and Blackcyn should have been in the main set instead of the mirroed legendaries.
It baffles me that wotc could not even follow the Planar Chaos formula for Jace's CP
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>>98718058
How did Mark Rosewater, the sole designer of Yawgmoth's Bargin, miss should a powerful ramp card?
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>>98718108
They don't care, spam some cards and move onto the next set to design. Release schedule is so fast.
Wouldn't be surprised if they use AI to create random cards and then select the promising ones.
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7-2 with a very solid reanimator deck - losses were hands kind of bricking and I had little ability to dig past my starting hand.
I love mono-colored decks like this just because their mana is exceptional, you can always cast all your spells.
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Theros Beyond Death. Whatever happened there?
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Trek is revealed to contain all 10 shocklands.
You WILL buy Trek boosters if you want Standard legal shocklands.
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>>98718047
Shandalar is fucked. Slivers invading cities, Salamanders plotting a secret invasion, ogre spirits trying to take over the world, a wandering bard creating an army of monsters, etc

I honestly think a Shandalar set could be cool with a theme of 5 or 6 "doomsday" factions with the only mechanics of the set being tied to those factions.

Salamanders could be UB and have amass or something like endure but you tap other Salamanders to activate abilities.
Ogres could be RB and have something to do with artifacts maybe sac artifacts of creatures for effects
Yisan's hordes could be WG or RG
The blue mage friend of Yisan could be on WU
Talrand UR
etc
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p1p1
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>>98717646
>Games Workshop is against gambling
Warhammer is literally a dice game though?
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>>98715830
No prickly old men with startling leg strength?
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>>98718338
nta but Dice in a game where you don't shuffle cards or game pieces is just a form of randomization (similar as shuffling your deck)

The Gambling the anon is saying (I have no idea if it is a real statement) is that they are against the aspect of gambling of opening a game piece, aka pay money for a small chance of getting the game piece you want.
But if that is the case then it is not entirely true because Gamesworkshop does WARHAMMER HEROES (blind boxes) that they sell in Japan and other parts of the world and even tho they in the past made sure that if people bought a case they would get all figures the new ones don't follow that rule (yes, I know they released 4 of the rare minis in a expansion of Warhammer quest)
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>>98715830
>forgot the seals
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>>98718119
>How did Mark Rosewater, the sole designer of Yawgmoth's Bargin, miss should a powerful ramp card?
It wasn’t White
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>>98717967
It's just one art piece, anon. I can guaranteed you there will be some homarids. In fact we already seen some crabs.
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>>98717914
The ocean is to diverse to focus on tribal.
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>>98717914
This just a human with webbed feet and hands.
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>>98718231
UB encroaches Surrakar's color identity. The should be UR base of the mythological salamander.
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>>98719735
Maro considers them merfolk
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>>98718842
>>98719629
I'm honestly expecting a Bloomburrow-esque set (again). This isn't a good thing as the new plane should be distinct in its style, but they will 100% lean into the "cute sea creatures" thing hard. A one-of with Bloomburrow was fine, but doing it again with a different setting is the worst possible thing they could do.
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>>98719768
Does he?
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>>98719629
Homarids are already typed as Lobster.
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>>98719774
https://imgur.com/a/nauctis-sunken-realm-art-dump-NOfQBpX

nothing we have seen looks cutesy, not even the otter really
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All sea creature types currently in Magic.
1.Merfolk
2.Bird
3.Otter
4.Crab
5.Lobster
6.Jellyfish
7.Leviathan
8.Kraken
9.Nautilus
10.Octupus
11.Oyster
12.Seal
13.Serpent
14.Shark
15.Sponge
16.Squid
17.Starfish
18.Trilobite
19.Turtle
20.Whale (Includes Dolphin)
21.Slug
22.Snail
23.Worm
24.Crocodile
25.Plant
26.Snake
27.Walrus
28.Camarid
29.Fish (Seahorse and Eels are fish.)
Sea creature types we don't have yet:
1.Copepod (For SpongeBob)
2.Coral
3.Anemone
4.Shrimp
5.Clam
6.Urchins
7.Cucumber
8.Nematodes (Could show up as worms despite being unrelate.)
9.Tunicate
10.Lancelet
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Lancelet is not a creature type.
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>>98719892
I forgot to include Amoeba, Barnacle, Manatee, and dinosaurs.
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>>98719899
I grouped it under ones we don't have yet.
We don't have it but WotC could make it since it doesn't fit neatly into any another type. Its closest relative is the fish.
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It’s impossible to make an entire set based around everything underwater and NOT wank all the power into mono blue
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>>98720099
Why? You can assign any sea creature to corresponding mana color that isn't blue.
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>>98720102
Because JOTC kikes are biased and always give blue the most power.
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>>98720108
Count the pips. The kikes favor white.
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>>98720121
Count the ban list for standard since 2018.
Kikes hate White.
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Clearly thus it's the most powerful color.
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>>98720121
oh my. obsessive pursuit in Standard?
I might have to take a look at that
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>>98720121
>Top 3 decks are all nonwhite
Lmao what a delusional kike
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>>98720139
Whatever you say you false flagging kike.
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You guys notice how there are very few powerful low cost humans now? All the 2CMC bombs are kor or dwarves or some other shit now. 5C Humans was the most embarrassing thing to ever happen to WotC in their eyes.
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>>98720200
what
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>>98720200
what
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>>98720148
>Cant refute 8 years of nonwhite bans
Lmao embarrassing and bodied. Stay mad kike
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>>98719892
Copepod is what I call edh play groups
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I wonder when they are going to show the first 2027 UB set. Sure, it's 3 sets away; but it hasn't stopped them before
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>>98720424
I hope it's my little pony.
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>>98720424
It's X-Men.
Enjoy Marvel: the Gathering.
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Mark revealed that originally Kindred Judgment was supposed to be on a prepare creature to complete the cycle but it was too powerful so they printed it without the creature.
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Alchemy PW
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>>98720434
If so how would we spoil the set on /mlp/? Or do we have to just censor the art?
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>>98720486
Censor the art, clearly.
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>>98720382
Keep gaslighting kike.
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>>98720474
What the flying fuck happened to Oko?
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>>98720633
Twink death
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>>98720449
Did Mark also reveal the design process behind Cori Steel Cutter?
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>>98720678
don't you have artifact or nonland permanent removal in your deck?
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>>98720449
I feel like it being on a prepare creature would work, but only if it's a high-mana creature; so it's more of a win-more card than anything
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>>98720805
Apparently the pro's don't since it dominated over 40% of decks at the pro tour preban.
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>>98717646
>Games Workshop is against gambling so it forbid wizards from making booster packs
lol I didnt realize they could do this, maybe we wont get another one
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>>98718173
all of them are already legal in standard tho, are they that popular that people will buy the packs just for them?
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>>98718173
Standard is played only on Arena. And everyone already has all the shocklands there.
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>>98720424
They'll reveal a set at NY Comic Con apparently, so in two weeks or so
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>>98721533
>at NY Comic Con
x-men here we come
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>>98715879
He is shockingly bad. The last few videos for the best standard deck ever were terrible from him. He seems to just autopilot everything and pretends he's playing midrange.dec when the play patterns for Skullclamp are way fucking different. He's a genuine midwit.
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>>98721541
or Cosmic or Magic Marvel stuff
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>>98717135
I don't think I've seen that opinion anywhere. Any newer player trying to appear more knowledgeable than they really are will just shill for Oko or some FIRE shit because that's all they know. Saga block was a long time ago and zoom zooms aren't curious at all.
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>>98721618
At this point magic the gathering is the tcg equivalent of funko pops.
Will they license with a cheap sports league like MLS too?
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When did Garruk become a better man?
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>>98720449
Blessed Mark sparing us another white draft bomb.
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>>98721652
When he got raped by Jace.
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>>98721367
It was designed for commander, not 60 card formats.
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I hear people saying control will dominate after rotation, but what even is there for control decks? (other than jeskai rev, unless that is specifically what people are talking about)
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Every card is designed for commander.
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>>98721743
and heres why thats a good thing
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>>98721861
For Magic? Or for 60-card formats?
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>>98721869
for Yugioh Motorcycle Races
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>>98718173
Not gonna lie, I'm going to buy cheap singles of them all from this set (and nothing else).
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>>98721893
I don't know what that is.
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>>98721932
Speed World
When a non-"Speed Spell" Spell Card is played, the player takes 2000 points of damage. During each player's Standby Phase, each player places 1 Speed Counter of their own on this card (max. 12 each). Also, each time a player takes damage, they reduce their Speed Counters by 1 for every 1000 points of damage they took.

Speed World 2
Spell Cards other than "Speed Spell" Cards cannot be activated. During each player's Standby Phases, each player places 1 Speed Counter of their own on this card (up to 12 each). You can remove Speed Counters of your own and reveal 1 "Speed Spell" Card in your hand to apply the following effects.
●4 Counters: Inflict 800 damage to your opponent.
●7 Counters: Draw 1 card.
●10 Counters: Destroy 1 card on the field.
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I haven't played for awhile, going to pre release for this new set this weekend. I have to say most of the art on the cards is straight up dogshit
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No set is without good art.
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>>98722216
Nothing will top this.
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>>98718253
I would grab Dark Ritual.
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cant believe we've reached a point where yugioh looks better than modern magic in terms of art, gameplay and fun.
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>>98722289
YGO has the only community worse than Magic's and is its own fucked shit. I really do think Magic is unfixable now though because you'd have to fire half the design team and ban 8 years of shitass design.
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>>98722289
>gameplay
isnt the draw/play split like 93/7
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>>98722297
and yet it still looks more fun than modern magic. truly impressive
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>>98722297
>I really do think Magic is unfixable
Magic is doing fine.
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>>98722301
I think that stat was "discounting non-games"
which actually makes it a little funnier to me lol
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>>98722309
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>>98722301
would rather a game end on turn 1 and go to the next game than on turn 4
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>>98722312
>discounting non-games
what is a non-game in yugioh?
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>>98722309
No, but Commander is.
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>>98722338
That's what I just said.
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>>98722321
from a reddit comment on this exact statistic that I found by googling:
>Non-Games would be the going first player bricked or got handtrapped into oblivion.
handtrap is a YGO term that means basically cards like Force of Will. you can think of those games as being similar to "see Leyline of the Void > scoop" lines by dredge if that makes it more clear.
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>>98722377
>Non-Games would be the going first player bricked
no mulligans? what a meme childrens game
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>>98722409
if yu-gi-oh had mulligans it would be even less of a game than it already is, since every deck is a combo deck.
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>>98722309
Flourishing even.
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>>98722487
In only 10 minutes 60+ more decks have been created at Moxfield.
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>>98722377
>The player going first won every time the player going second didn't open interruption
Amazing work there, Josh.
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>>98723065
no, rather, in some of the games where go first won, the go second player did have some interact, but not enough to make it a "non-game"
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>>98718080
the Star Trek fandom isn't particularly robust these days
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>>98719917
dinosaurs are not sea creatures
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>>98723255
The mismanagement of Star Trek can only be malice. They genuinely despise us.
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>>98723271
That's AI generated right?
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>>98723325
ha ha
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>>98723271
that zesty nigga probably didn't even need a head prosthetic as he personifies the yakubian ideal
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Yugioh is proof a game can survive combo winter and build around turn 1 wins.
They should eliminate the banlist and formats. Let the strongest decks survive.
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they should make a backrooms universes beyond
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>>98723449
if you can call that living
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>>98723449
I don't think even YGO would be dumb enough to make their game Magical Scientist FTK.
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>>98723325
AI can't generate anything as grotesque as reality sadly
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>>98715869
It's because they fucked up the shock land distribution when the pushed back Lowryn as it meant EOE would end up rotating first (rather than at the same time) meaning would only have half the shocks for an entire year. Yes WotC were that incompetent....
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>>98720263
>powerful
In what format anon
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>>98723271
Kurtzman and Orci hate 100% audiences, granted, but it's pretty plain the fuckup is media companies wanting every legacy IP to be a tentpole when Berman Trek was successful because it was consistent budget television.
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>>98723261
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>>98712296
Based
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>>98724851
I'll give you my sinuous benthisaur, baby
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This is the monkey's paw curling into a fist and punching me in the nuts.
This has got to be one of the worst and most random reprint arts out there. What the FUCK is going on here? This is an insanely niche card from almost 10 years ago and no one ever complained about the art. Did Tomasz rape or something?
>>
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>>98724422
It sees play back to Legacy.
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>>98724851
Not a dinosaur.
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>>98725116
That's how Magic types it.
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>>98725116
Look, you're correct, but magic has fucked up typing. Birds should jusy be Dinosaurs, Humans are Apes, everything is fish except plants and fungi. Just go with it.
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>>98724918
hentai face
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>>98720494
Nobody believes your kike lies, Gavin
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>>98725350
Here comes the white hating kike again.
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>>98720449
>Nosewater kike’ng White just because
Typical kike behavior. Filthy sheeny can’t hide is hatred for White.
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>>98725352
>STILL can’t refute 8 years of nonwhite bans and biased fire design
If kikes like you had any shame, Israel would be much smaller and White would have equal and fair power
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wtf is the last redbobcat video
it trully sounds like a derranged boomer disconected from reality
>pepe is a hate symbol
>entire video is how no longer author controls de product
>mentions blizzard sex scandal
>mad about the warcraft collab
>skips the fact bliz got sold so not a single soul part of the sex dungeons now work there (now part of microsoft)
at least professor shows the cards after parading his fucktoy tranny
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New thread
>>98725394
>>98725394
>>98725394
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>>98725368
the blizzard sex scandal is literal fake news based on hearsay which lead to california suing blizzard with no actual evidence other than the hearsay and blizzard paid them to go away ... and the journo who wrote that shit up admitted in a video like a couple months ago that not all of it was real but it was real in his mind o algo
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>>98725359
I don't give a fuck about your white bans. If they banned white card you would say they hate white. White is played everywhere. White is a linchpin of multiple decks, strategies, archetypes. You don't care. You are mentally ill. You fixate on Gavin showing the screencap from a video where he talks about breaking color identity IN FAVOR of white, by giving white more flash.
You hate white. Fuck off. I bet you play black.
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>>98725368
Forget how long ago but what he said about viashino creature type being errata'd to lizard made me know he was crazy enough to be like this.
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>>98725029
Seriously? How?
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>>98725671
the most powerful creature in legacy used to be a 3CMC 3/3 that gave you the initiative
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>>98725368
Dude unironically said "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" total commie brainrot plus moral crusading about stupid bullshit

I knew he sucked when his take on Thunder Junction being bad had more to do with culture shit about Indians and diversity consultants and less to do with the fact it was an empty hat world
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>>98722309
Nooooo, no it's not, come on now.



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