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>TQIdk but more furry bitches in the imperial guard will be welcomed
I like orks :D
I read and enjoyed the NL trilogy but I prefered Uzas to Talos, he was as total bro
>>98728357>servant unit becomes its own armyTzaangors so that they can leave the Thousand Sons alone.
>>98728357>TQJust give us more auxiliary aliens for Tau
shadowseer spotted
>>98728357>What’s one low down group of “servant” units that you’d like to see become its own full army?Grot revolutionary committee!
>>98728369seeing completely bare knight bases makes me sad
>>98728384Where the fuck is your knight supposed to be nigga the tranny brick road?
Update: the wet palette is amazing. I never want to paint without it again
>>98728388>you can use those colors because le trannies!!!!!you came here in 2020 didn't you
>is it true that you can make a second leman russ if you have a bottom track?>check ebay>cunts selling it for more than a whole used leman russ would costWhy does no one understand the concept of why a person would buy these bits in the first place.
>painting again after not having touched a brush for 3+ months
>>98728389Congratulations on leveling up anon!
>>98728398if you wait a year it circles around to you being able to forget all you know, and start anew with a great clarity of mind.
>>98728401I'll really level up once I can get an airbrush... and actually paint straight lol... but yeah this is a good step
>>98728388Pink blue and white were a popular color combination before they were coopted by politics.
>>98728283Bout this big, the guys up front are on 28mm bases.
>>98728366>GoffYUCK!
>>98728424>>98728384Oh are we posting knightsMine will be based soon
>>98728394There's a guy in the UK selling that specific sprue in bulk, but it's ~60 USD to get one to me in the US. Not worth it at that price, and I assume it's worse for you unless you're a different anon from the Australian guard player I mentioned it to originally.I know I said it's a good thing to look out for, but it appears to be something I got extremely lucky on and they're extremely inconsistent otherwise. Sorry about that I guess.If you have access to a printer (yours or a friend's, don't do it in a fucking library), might be worth a gander in that direction too. You can print guard vehicles on an FDM printer, the amount of detail isn't a concern with how blocky they are.>t. printed 3 Hellhounds, they look fine
>>98728412Was thinking about getting one but I hear metallics are hard on them and they seem like kinda a pain to clean?
>Got this month's Combat Patrol delivery in the mail>Hit with the realization that I only have 2 months worth of issues left to getMan
>>98728450Take your time manKnight bases are huge, it's a canvas. If your LGS has a bitz bin or homeless HQs give your knight some friends
>>98728398You became black?
>>98728366I like smashing Orks :D
>>98728450>>98728424I love the knights' lore but I can't get over their hunchback-of-notre-dame-ness. I would rather spend that money on a wraithknight.
>>98728357>TQMandrakes
>>98728357>TQI want a horde army of nurglings and for them to have funny siege contraptions.
>>98728460At least you get the magazine, us leafs don't get fucking shit.
Ah...eto....blegh!
>>98728457I just made it with parchment paper and paper towels, I can throw away everything whenever
>>98728375>>98728357Tzaangors become separate but GW keeps ignoring TS except for one pity robot each edition. Tzaangors form the basis of the Lost and the Damned alongside vanilla beastmen, Dark Apostles, that one imperial guard renegade from the Huron box, traitor guard and traitor enforcers.>>98728378Kroot becomes its own mercenary army with things like tarellians but tau can use them+tau get those nicassar guys so they finally have a psychic power they can use.
>>98728389Told ya, really has no downsides until you run out of space and need to use a new paper. But it's so useful for large or batch projects.
>>98728357>TQSpace marine chapter serfs
>>98728357>serventsThe Minotaurs
>>98728501Even for tiny stuff. I was doing edge highlighting on a secondary color on my marine's pauldrons and right leg. I had to do three coats because this paint was going on so thin, but I didn't have to get more out of the pot or even thin what I had extra. 0 paint wasted ir was great.
>>98728456>unless you're a different anon from the Australian guard player I mentioned it to originallyHe is, I'm still perfectly happy with your advice and my purchase of two Russes. I didn't just blindly buy 'em hoping to luck out on finding cheap track sprues, I have options
>>98728523you called?
>>98728485Wraithknights are also cool
>>98728525Your pallet is too wet.
>>98728485>>98728531Wraithknights/Eldar Knights should be their own army.
>>98728357>TQInquisitorial agents.
>>98728311My next marine squad will get bitcoin shoulder pauldron decals
>>98728540Eh, I think the pallet is fine, it's probably more due to the giant drop of paint medium... and some paints are just like that. Unfortunately this shitty yellow paint I bought took 4 coats to even look passable completely unthinned. I think I'll undercoat it with white or smthn next time
>>98728551Nah that's just yellow acryllics for you
>>98728531They're just everything I really wanted from a mech. My first mech anime was full metal panic instead of gundam or code geass so I really favor something more agile and modern looking over a cardboard box with legs(looking at you tau) >>98728543I think it's good for the eldar to have some sort of heavy hitters. Then again you could just make them like imperial knights where there's some degree of intertrading between the two, but then you lose access to the aeldari army rules. Maybe if mainline eldar got one more decent hull that's not a transport or the fire prism. I will say the centaur ones here look awesome. A gigangic centaur with a scaled up laserlance would be an instabuy from me
>>98728384
>>98728560Fortunately I realized that transfer paper is only 5 dollars at hobby lobby so I'm going to freehand the yellow bits on this unit just for practice and consistency but after that I am all in on transfers
>>98728571nice fuckin freehand
>>98728472Priming mishap
>>98728571Very nice. Which static grass applicator do you use
>>98728583lol
>>98728580Thanks but it took three actual hours I'm actually embarrassed when I remember it.It's only recently that I learned you should put retarder in your paint when you're doing extensive freehand because it makes thing so much easier to fix.
>>98728585I still chuckle over the BBC Panther one since I know it's you worshipping marvelslop BBC
>>98728566>a cardboard box with legs(looking at you tau) taubros, our response?
>>98728586none. 2mm static grass is short enough that when you spoon it onto the base it usually looks fairly good
>>98728595I mean he's right the crisis suits are boxes. Riptides are cool though
>>98728604You got that around the wrong way. Crisis suits are cool but riptide is gay and oversized.
>>98728617>riptide is gay and oversized.Just like you
DoW4 is gonna suck isn't it?it just doesn't look great, I think it'll just "exist", it won't be DoW3 bad but not DoW1 good
>>98728622I think it will be fine.
>>98728617You FOOL. Riptides are the PERFECT size increase, they were just right for the range but they had to fuck it up with the stormsurge and even the Taunar was a rare failure for FW.
>>98728622>>>/v/
>>98728622I put a couple more hours into DoW1 this year and, I'm sorry anon, it's rubbish this day and age.
>>98728633I think it'll lack any soul, from the gameplay previews they've shown nothing really stands outtheres no iconic lines or anything like that
>>98728622I put a couple more hours into DoW 1 this year and it still holds up anon
>play 1 game of 11th after a year-long dry spell>realize I still don't have funAt least I like my models.
>>98728656retvrn to 4th anon
>>98728649You LIE
>>98728656Make your own edition, with black jack, and hookers.
>>98728622dow1 was good because I was a kiddow3 sucked because I went back to collegedow4 will suck because I need to figure out how to either work hybrid/remote or work 12 hour shifts to make a lot of money, fast, over the next 6 weeks.
>>98728656I think it's better than 10th but that's not saying much
>>98728357>What’s one low down group of “servant” units that you’d like to see become its own full army?I'd like more Abhumans, loyal and/or traitor. The chaos beastmemes are pretty fun.
>>98728666Cute AI feet
>>98728658I'll admit I only got into Warhammer (in the sense of actually playing) within the last 3 years. I'm going to try Necromunda and Blood Bowl eventually, I like flavor more than competitive rules, if that makes sense. >>98728666It didn't feel any different. Cover was a bit easier to grapple with, but Detection Range was nonexistent as a concept.
i dropped my airbrush and broke it
>>98728677Blood bowl is probably GW's best game
>>98728678I grab my paint and stroke itI am the beast I worship
>>98728678You can overcome this inconvenience, Anon. I believe in you.
So now that muhreens are T5 will GW finally stop being retarded and let power armored sisters of battle and hyperadvanced aspect warriors have a higher toughness stat than a gaunt or random ass cadian/chaos cultist? Or will they continue to say fuck you to middle ground armies
>>98728634This is true, they never should have built anything bigger then the riptide. I do like the FW plastic riptide variants tho. Honestly I'd like more new small mechs from the tau, maybe something between mass category 2 and mass category 8?Like the boarding suit which exists in the lore.
>>98728622>primarishit+primarchshitOf course it sucks.
>>98728685No no no noGames games games games
>>98728690>Or will they continue to say fuck you to middle ground armiesThis
>>98728690They already said SoB arent getting the T or Bolter buffs so there's your answer
>>98728691Riptide and variants were perfect, especially since the FW riptides were specifically some nutjob making modifications with stolen resources. They were the logical extension of a battlesuit. There's no reason for the stormsurge to be a walker, in fact the stabilizers are an open admittance that the initial design is a flaw. The Taunar is neat but also completely antiethical to Tau warfare which shuns both static units and unguided artillery.
>>98728690Doubtful. Marine players are already shitting and pissing over losing OoM despite getting literally better stats across the board.Can't wait to be wounded on 2+ every single game because I'm a low popularity xenos army.
>>98728696>devs state that gabriel angelos is too overpowered to put in DoW 4>proceed to put in the lion, and state he's just there to be overpoweredwhat does this mean for powerscaling?gabe>>>>the lion?
>>98728704The Rvarna is fucking gay it looks like it belongs in a different game altogether
>>9872865611th sucks donkey dick.
>tau mech sizingDoesn't matter when anything bigger than the broadside just looks like shit. I don't know what they were thinking with the designs, the riptide isn't awful but definitely overly cluttered, the stormsurge just looks like straight ass (and not the sexy kind, like your aunt's flabby pancake). Both of them suffer from dinky little pea head, as well. Pic related, they needed to take more inspiration from Battletech
>>98728711"Well we decided early on not to have Gabriel playable because he'd be too strong. Then halfway into development GW made us put in the Lion."
>>98728714It literally looks more like a proper battlesuit than the temu shit that is the Stormsurge
>>98728711Yes 100%
>>98728398This is gonna be me but worse because I haven't painted in a year I think.Getting back into this with printer.
if its a battlesuit bigger than an XV9 its dogshit
>>98728717>BattletechNah, fuck thatTau mechs should be straight out of Gurren Lagann
>>98728622>>98728696I keep forgetting all the marines in DoW4 are gonna be primaris and instantly losing all interest again when I get reminded lmao
>>98728717To be fair, every mech you posted except maybe the Phoenix Hawk was just literally stolen from Macross.
>>98728718just shows how corporate and soulless the game isgod forbid I want a blood ravens character in the blood ravens game series
>>98728730I mean they cant put the Blood Raven's primarch in the game because Magnus is a traitor
>>98728702Fuck these homos>>98728701Sigh>>98728710Idk about that. Personally I think that the new army rule is both more thematic and usefulSpeaking of rules, I have seen multiple articles reviewing divergent chapter changes, but I can't find the actual datasheets or source anywhere. What's up with that
>>98728725I personally prefer 'tech but I concede your different tastes. Committing to either direction would have been better than awkwardly sitting in the middle of both while also continuing the tiny head design into the larger mechs.
>>98728690Only Fire Dragons, Dark Reapers and Striking Scorpions should be T4 because they're both wearing the heaviest armour Eldar give their infantry. All other Aspect Warriors should remain T3.The Deldar Incubi can also get T4 to maintain symmetry with the Striking Scorpions. Autarchs should also get T4 but Wayleapers should remain T3.I'm pretty married to Eldar remaining a T3 army. They're supposed to be Glass Cannons and they are currently made of Glass, they just need to actually do more damage than their marine equivalents for the same value in points.Sisters should all be T4 tho.
>>98728734gabe>>>any primarch
>>98728725Not at all, TTGL mechs are lot more humanoid shaped and have the whole face motif going on.
>>98728710Marinefag hereI don't give a shit about OotM because it was just a boring stat boostI'd rather stay T4 while actually being an actual combined arms army. My problem with the new rule is that doctrines are only about mobility.Marines are supposed to be flexible, but our army rules are only about when we can move
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98728731...merely losing interest in purchasing a product is dramatic to you? What the fuck?
>>98728744>Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98728738>toughness changing based on armourThis is so fucking immensely cocksuckingly gay and faggy. I hate this modern edition.
>>98728744You are the worst ritual poster in these threads and its not even close
reminder that gabriel angelos is 10x the character "captain" titus is
>>98728752"I just don't want to buy this now" is not dramatic ever you fucking retard. It's like you don't even know what words mean. Why the fuck are you tripfagging also?
>>98728744I miss Moom
>>98728723NO
>>98728622Itll be midSc2 is the baseline for RTS and despite it being like 15-20 years old or something it wont stack up so
>>98728758He had the most feminine coded bitch fit yesterday where he was grovelling for mercy from the mods and begging that if he adopted a trip again so that people itt could filter him, they'd let him stay
>>98728738At least other melee locked units like shining spears and banahees should get it. >they just need to actually do more damage than their marine equivalents for the same value in points.Well, yeah that would also help a lot >>98728751What are you talking about
>>98728764Oh my god it's decalmutant I don't know why I didn't figure it out immediately lmfao.
>>98728741ExactlyDon't have to worry about weirdly small heads on huge mechs if your mech's "face" is on the chest>humanoid shapedTau are humanoid, it's not much of a stretch to say their mechs would be similarly designed.Honestly I just want an excuse to put Kamina glasses on my battlesuits
Quickly test painted one of the space crusade scouts. Settled on BA, couldn't get the DA green tone in a way i was happy with. We'll see if I have time for the rest of the squad.
>>98728767Earlier he got banned for talking about primarchs in a way that was very funny>>98728622Im gonna try it regardlessFun time with friends
>>98728704Weren't the Riptide variants canonically made using funds embezzled from the Ghostkeel project? Lol.But yeah, the Taunar shouldn't exist and the Stormsurge should have been a tank or better yet an aircraft. I miss when the Tau answer to a titan was a Tigershark airstrike. Having such an aircraft focus was a pretty unique gimmick for the forgeworld Tau, plus the Forgeworld flying wing designs were sex. Wish we could get a Barracuda in plastic.
>>98728772I'll be honest, I misread your post as saying they ALREADY looked TTGL-likeThat said, TTGL mechs fit way more as Ork tech, with their gaudy yet crude designs and love of melee and lotsa guns. Hell, the Dakkarig is already pretty damn close to the Lagann in terms of being little more than a head/face with weapons and stumpy limbs
I've been going for a 3 tone look for my armor but I don't really have a lot of paints for everything. Y'all think I would get good results on the gun if I base coat black, glaze leadbelcher, then edge with normal leadbelcher and finally highlight with runefang?
>>98728780>But yeah, the Taunar shouldn't exist and the Stormsurge should have been a tank or better yet an aircraft. I miss when the Tau answer to a titan was a Tigershark airstrike.100% this.
>>98728780>Weren't the Riptide variants canonically made using funds embezzled from the Ghostkeel project?Yep. And the mad scientist basically told the Ethereals he was busy when they wanted to black bag him.Tau are a victim of GW's game design because nobody cares enough about aircraft to take the fancy stuff seriously so it had to be a ground unit. Tau tanks were being put to the side for the more visually striking suits so the stormsurge wasn't going to be some Tau Baneblade. It just should have been because it wouldn't stick out so badly as it does.
>>98728788>glaze leadbelcherMetallics dont work that way sorry lil bro
>>98728786Yea that's fair"Nonsensical chop-shop modifications done purely to look cool" does fit Orks more, but the scrap metal aesthetic does leave me personally wanting.
>>98728794God the Stormsurge would have been so cool as a Baneblade equivalent to the Hammerhead
>>98728806But again! GW's only gonna let one race have super anti-grav tanks
>>98728773Another angle. I wonder if these old scouts resemble necromunda gangers so much because they wanted to represent that they recruit initiates from places like that.
>>98728803That's fair, it certainly does go against the cleaner look of TTGL and it'd take a lot of kitbashing to make ork mechs work, even if the spirit is already there.
>>98728794The stormsurge doesn't stick out badly.
Tau are cool.
How common are Chaos Space Marine armies painted as Black Legion? I know they're the face of Chaos Space Marines but I just love black and gold.
The thing about the Riptide is that it fits. It doesn't replace a hammerhead because it doesn't have the same role. It lets a crisis suit assault have a suit with a hammerhead's firepower where a hammerhead wouldn't be able to deploy in the same area. It has its own niche.The stormsurge does not have its own niche. It's redundant. You can say it's like a broadside but broadsides are supposed to be deployed by Orca. Stormsurges require Mantas. Specially retrofitted Mantas, mind you. If you need to deploy overwhelming firepower in a static position with a Manta, why wouldn't the Tau just use the Manta when it already matches titans for firepower on top of not actually being static? The Ghostkeel fits the riptide with being able to complement isolated stealth cadres with heavier firepower than normally available without needing orbiting skyrays or entire cadres sitting around to deploy. Tha hazard suit is also a redundant unit but that was part of its fluff with the legitimate question of why have this buff suit when you can have a crisis suit which does basically the same thing for cheaper.
>>98728816Those models predate Necromunda by a bit but there may be something to what you're saying, yeah.
>>98728766>At least other melee locked units like shining spears and banahees should get it.Nah, Spears are already T4 and it doesn't help, Honestly I think all Eldar Jetbikes should be T5.As for Banshees, they're staying T3. Howling Banshees are genuinely one of if not THE iconic craftworld eldar unit and need to be T3 because of that.Give enemies -1 to hit and to wound charging banshees to represent the deathscream fucking with their enemies brains and give each Banshee 3 attacks instead of 2 with their Anti Infantry D2 Power Swords. Jobs good.If Banshees are stuck in prolonged melee they should die. If banshees are the ones getting charged they should die. If banshees get shot by anti-infantry weapons then guess what? They should die.On the other hand, If Banshees actually get to charge into melee combat with an infantry unit then whatever they're fighting should get absolutely blended in the first round of combat unless its like, a first company vet in terminator armour. Even then you can probably expect to lose Terminators.
>>98728845Agreed. The Stormsurge came about during the same period of time that GW was running out of good ideas and putting out garbage like Space Marine Centurions and Logan Grimnar on a hoversled pulled by literal wolves and other creatively bankrupt shit like that. It should be squatted and replaced.
>>98728851RT era marines were still mostly nabbed from convicts and gangers iirc, even if Necromunda specifically didn't exist
>>98728856Yes lorewise you are correct but as far as miniatures go they didn't yet have actual gangers to visually key onto for the Scout models, is all I meant.
>>98728862They had 80s punks to base the look off of, anon. You don't think Necromunda designs just spontaneously generated in a vacuum, do you?
Fairly new to Warhammer and might as well ask this here. >Do inquisitors have an unwritten rule about delving into each others minds?Been reading Eisenhorn and in the second book his higher ups suspect him of heresy. I just thought that it was a bit of a plot hole as they could just read his mind or force him to talk with their psychic powers and if he's fighting back mentally he clearly hiding something.
>>98728869Every Inquisitor has secrets to hide and you don't know if the Inquisitor accusing you is himself a secret heretic trying to rip open your brain to shove a daemon in there.>but what if they just get a trusted third partyNo such thing, it's paranoia all the way down and all the way back up.
>>98728868I thought the point was we were talking about which minis inspired other minis.
>>98728853Simply bring back Initiative and the WS chart and Banshees are fixed.
>>98728875I guess you can read it that way. I took it as anon saying they share a similar design space because scouts were just criminal thugs in fancier armor back then.
>>98728855It was also riding the fact that if a Tau player wanted something to supposedly fight titans they'd need a FW aircraft which even for FW was really specialized. They SHOULD have made a Tau baneblade but Tau were the suit faction so it had to have legs and a head and it doesn't have anything else so it's just a mismatched chicken.If the stormsurge had been some breaching unit meant to stomp forwards from the front lines and point-blank motherfuckers hiding in bunkers and forts like a giant breacher it would have been the tightest shit ever.
Whats more rare to see on the table? Alpha Legion or Word Bearers?
>>98728881>Stormsurge Siegebreaker SuitCum
>>98728869>Fairly new to WarhammerI can tell because you call it Warhammer and not 40k.>Do inquisitors have an unwritten rule about delving into each others minds?They don't really have any rules at all, Inquisitors all disagree with each other on fundamental beliefs and even go to war with each other nearly as much as they do aliens and heretics.>I just thought that it was a bit of a plot hole Could be, yeah. But Inquisitors are also well trained to resist psychic intrusion and guard their thoughts, so reading his mind wouldn't necessarily be effective. If it was, Inquisitors would be pretty bad at hunting down rogue psykers.
>Kinda wanna get the old metal Goff Rockers and Deff Dread when they go up for preorder Saturday>Remember how egregious the prices for the Vostroyans were and begin to reconsider itI might still get the Deff Dread because the novelty of having a mini that weighs like 3 pounds of metal is kinda funny
>>98728869he's a psyker himself and also all Inquisitors go through anti-psyker training, they could reach into his mind but they couldn't be sure that what they were getting was the truth
>>98728892I'm planning on getting the Ghaz and Deff Dread myself, but those rockers are mighty tempting too
>Reading The Remnant Blade>MC's ship gets taken by the Abyssal Kindred>CSMs with gloss black and deep turquoise for trim that has some Rubrics and is sort of like Word BearersI gotta ask, when books like these have their own factions, are these the author's very own armies? And this is their excuse to put it in a book?
>>98728843Just do it
>>98728901>when books like these have their own factions, are these the author's very own armies?Yeah, and it's what every author and player is supposed to do
>>98728845The Hazard is basically in universe a prototype Riptide. Both suits were seeking to deliver exceptional firepower in a retaliation/interdiction cadre style force which didn't want to wait for hammerhead support. The Riptide was just a refinement of the Hazards purpose.I'd like to see the Hazard make a comeback tho, it's a damn cool suit it just needs it's own niche. Maybe focus more on using it to intercept enemy CQB units? They already have the photon caster, lean into that more with a counterfire defence system and chassis mounted Flechette launchers like what the R'Varna had.On the tabletop its job would be to screen for other Tau units by being a Tanky brick that sucks to fight in melee. Hell you could Even give it the Onager Gauntlet as an upgrade and make it the "melee battlesuit."
>>98728874Gotcha thanks. So even someone much higher up on the chain of command as the head Xeno guy of the sector that was accusing him isn't really allowed to just will you to spill any secrets or "I am going to probe your brain for a bit. Be cool."? >*You fucking with demons?*>*No*>Ok cool just checking.I just really thought about it recently as this chapter Eisenhorn peered into a traitor for the name of the demon hosts master and he the guy knew the master and might have been able to pull his name from his noodle until the demon host stopped him. So far I am loving the book. I grew up on the Malus Darkblade books so Dan Abnett really sucked me in with this series. Wish Eisenhorn had a legal mini though.
>>98728901It's probably a mix of "this sounds cool" and "this could be a faction" but based on mistakes I figure a few of the authors don't play or own 40k for shit so I doubt they make a person stake in them.The only thing I've ever been certain of is when some BL twat is trying to make a Donut Steel OC to get a physical model made for it.
>>98728901Also, what's the catch all term for these subfactions everyone has?>Chapter>Warband>Order>Craftworld>Kabal>Septs>Dynasties>Regiments>Forge Worlds
>>98728856To be extremely pedantic, Necromunda did exist. Definitely more barebones than it is even by the original game's release
>>98728901slop library authors don't have armies
>>98728912By the time of Advanced Space Crusade? I don't believe it did, Confrontation came out the year after. It existed in the lore though, if that's what you mean, only because of the Necromundan Spiders (which are a regiment I still want to see get models).
>>98728908To add onto what the others have said, the Inquisition due to the nature of their work also know how to fortify their minds with rigorous training. Even non-psyker individuals can learn to just block mind probing, you need the secret knowledge and to put in the work to do it but that's also a thing in 40K.>Wish Eisenhorn had a legal miniHe does, though I believe it's legends now?
>>98728916>Advanced Space CrusadeNGL after the first reply I forgot we weren't talking about general RT
>>98728919All good. I notice a lot of conversations about RT tend to get a bit muddled because people forget (or aren't aware) it lasted 6 years and changed massively several times and because the name is used for both the core rulebook at launch and the "edition" as a whole.
>>98728876100% this yes, Eldar have been cucked by the shrimplification of 40k game mechanics harder than almost every other army because the mechanics the Eldar used to excel at were essentially deleted from the game or made a universal mechanic anyone could do.No more Initiative. No more Weapon Skill Table. No more psychic phase and battle fortune went from a unique eldar gimmick to the assault keyword. Shits fucked.
>>98728907The thing with hazard suits is that they were redundant to crisis suits capability but they were also tougher so they could take the dangerous close up jobs crisis suits did but also actually survive. You know, they're the guy wearing a HAZARD suit. But it fell flat once crisis suits got T5 and 4 hardpoints since they were then outmatching hazard suits and with shield drones were as survivable. The hazard suits lost their distinction besides looking cool. The Twin Lance should totally have been in hazard suit models though even if it doesn't fit the Patlabor vibe.
>>98728924Also their vehicles are the same speed as other races. I used to have 21" wave serpents now I have to burn a special token to get less than that.
>>98728918Yeah I looked him up, I thought legends meant he was no longer tournament legal. Which is weird, because it wasn't too many years ago he got a reissue apparently.
>>98728921>conversations about RT tend to get a bit muddled because people forgetThat's me!
>>98728931Yeah his mini didn't come out too long ago, but BL minis are more of a novelty and James doesn't tend to like keeping them around. Just release them to drive hype around a book release or something, fans of that series gobble it up and GW forgets about them again
>>98728911WAAAAAAGH is what's usually used for orks, though not every ork force is actively on a WAAAAGH. There's plenty of standing ork empires and blood axe merc companies or freebooter krews out there too
>>98728930Man, in 6th ed a Falcon could move 30" in one turn if it gave up shooting. Back when GW standard board sizes where bigger and that kind of speed was ACTUALLY USEFUL.I miss when Eldar felt like Eldar. Right now they feel like Kasrkin with better guns.
>>98728911Nids have hivefleets, the GSC are separated by cults and the votann have their leagues.
>>98728924Eldar also inflicted the most cancer on 40k with retarded rerollable invulnerable saves, strength d and wraithknights outside apocalypse so hopefully they get even more cucked.
>>98728969>she's still seething about knights
>>98728357Unlike Orks, I don't think Beastmen fit 40k at all. They should belong to Fantasy and that's it.
>>98728977It's fair, all kniggers deserve the rope
>>98728969>Eldar also inflicted the most cancerThat would be custodes
>>98728790>>98728780>conversation devolves into tau mechfags vs. tau tankfagshahaAnd tau firewarriorfags basically don't even exist and auxiliaries prefer their own army
>>98728979Almost anything from Fantasy fits 40k because that's the whole fucking point. It was written from the ground up to be Fantasy in space. Beastmen as disgusting hairy Chaos mutants with horns and extra limbs and eyes and shit work perfectly well in the setting, the Fellgor models were done very well.
>>98728988Anyone who is a Tau tankfag is usually just a combinedarmsfag who likes the infantry too.
>>98728988Anyone talking about tau tanks likes mechanised fire warriors
>>98728882Alpha Legion could be any army of marines, so probably word bearers since they are actually chaos and many chaos players want to be "just using chaos, but not slaves to it!"
>>98728980Mechs are cool and fit the setting. Cope
SLAVESTODARKNESS
>>98728989Here's the best one
>>98729005BNWO-coded
>>98728969Are we still bitching about 7th edition? The same 7th edition which gave the mechanicus free wargear so they straight up had more points than you? The same 7th edition which gave us the Necron Decurion with their rerollable reanimation protocol on their entire fucking army? The same 7th edition which looked at the absolute fucking STATE of the 6th edition Riptide and said "But what if we let you reroll the Nova reactor test, gave you +1 to BS for focus firing and gave you A FREE EXTRA SHOOTING PHASE."You don't get to bring up 7th edition as the reason why Eldar deserve to suck shit. By that logic everyone deserves to suck shit. 7th was the worst state the game has ever been in and the Eldar Codex was one of the last released that edition.They were the strongest army ever sure, but they didn't ruin 7th. The necron Decurion did with its cancer meta formation which completely warped game balance and started the terminal powercreep that ended with the Eldar Codex release.
>>98728989>Almost anything from Fantasy fits 40kExcept skaven lul
>>98729021True, kek, fuck rats
>>98729011Honestly an imperial beastmen vs chaos beastmen KT box would've been way more kino than hamfisting in the stunties
>>98728595He ain't wrong but that's why I love em.
>>98729003Correct, but GW doesn't have the ability to balance huge mechs like knights and they should be only allowed in Apocalypse (rip in pieces)
>>98729023Chaos beastmen vs Guard Felinid Auxillaries combo box. Goatmen vs Catgirls.
>>98728622Dow 4 will be even worse than dow 3. Primarch, primaris, no fancy titans and unique gameplay, small roster for each faction
If I were to replace the tarellian enforcer with a space marine, would something like a shotgun or a volkite fit the 18" 3 | 3 | 4 | -1 | 1 Assaultprofile?
>>98729038An abhuman KT squad in general would be great>ogryn meatshields>felinid assassins>ratling snipers>maybe throw in a nightsider comms expert or longshank tactician or something That said, I'll never trust GW to make felinids actually look good so I never want them to get official support. I'd rather just get third party ones or kitbash some and run em as catachans instead
>>98729027I don't begrudge you guys that by any means. I can see why that would be the preference for Gundam fans for example>>98729036Nah
>>98728988Tau mechs are great, if you liked tau but didn't like mechs you'd just play guard.Tau mechs shouldn't be the entire army tho. Tanks and planes and auxillaries and even the humble fire warrior all have a place.
>>98729047Get a Horus Heresy shotgun yeah.
Working on a broke ass Marines Malevolent Captain. Should I add the tilting plate? Any other Captain like bits I should add?
>>98729062Gonna call him _____ the patch work knight or some shit.
How do you paint the little symbols on a Word Bearer?
>>98729052We need an update to the Ogryn kit in general. I'd like to see Ogryn and Bullgryn get solit into two different kits instead of 1 dual kit.Ogryn can get their ripper guns swapped out for heavy stubbers or autocannons while bullgryn get to choose between their gauntlets, power mauls or massive 2 handed power hammers.But yeah, Abhumans are cool and help make the guard look more interesting. I'd like more of them.
>>98729062>>98729066Put the purity seal kn his right breast like its a campaign medal but otherwise leave him unadorned.
>>98729053>no argument Okay thanks for the concession, good chat
>>98729070>option 1use decals>option 2omit them>option the thirdvery carefully
I'm gonna be painting my World Eaters as the Scourge as it looks cool and the only Chaos faction that has a bunch of skulls to match.
Just realized, the tactical squad was only 3 fucking years old when they started the primaris heresy. Why? They had just made the perfect series of space marine kits, why did they just randomly decide to annihilate the marines range with primaris? Marines didn't even need a refresh.
>>98729022Gladly.
>>98729081Word
>>98729100They'd already pumped out a shitton of space marine kits for 20 years. They wanted to sell a shitton more space marine kits. Their obstacles were that everyone had already bought a shitton of space marine kits, ebay was flooded with second hand space marine kits and there was a burgeoning market of 3rd party space marine parts.The solution? Blow it all fucking up and make everyone buy from scratch again. And it worked.
>>98729100This is the price you pay for being the most popular army. GW needs to release at least 2 waves of new space marines every year.You're neck deep in a churn cycle other factions never have to worry about. Unpopular armies are dying of thirst and watching you drown.
>>98729116Oh you're gonna make the NPC who hates skaven seethe badly with this
>>98728908>or "I am going to probe your brain for a bit. Be cool."?If you give out your trust so easily you're not Inquisition material. For all you know this was a test to make sure you could do more than blindly follow orders and you just failed.
>>98729100>everyone just refreshed their tacticals, boss>make em do it again but bigger lolAnd then the marinepiggies actually did! What a wacky bunch!
>>98729100it was 5 years old, tourist-kun
>>98729137I still have not bought a single Primaris mini that wasn't part of a launch box I got for the non-marine half.
>>98729168Yet you still bought primaris anyway.
>>98729148Tacticals: September 2013Primaris: June 2017Time elapsed: 3 years, 9 months. Conclusion: you must kill yourself.
>>98729175Doesn't count if they came packaged with my xenos
>>98729181nta but>rounding down at 9/12shiggy diggy
>>98729100>>98729181It's even worse when you consider GW has a lead time of 2-3 years
>>987291843 and 3/4 is closer to 3 than it is to 5.
>intentionally avoid explaining the lore behind 2 of the legions so people have homebrew material>nobody uses them as the basis for their homebrew because they don't wanna get called a mary sueSAD
>>98729200>intentionally avoid explaining the lore behind 2 of the legions so people have homebrew materialstop repeating this meme, priestley and blanche and ansell and goodwin all said this isn't true
>>98729201Well then what DID they say?
>>98729204that they said there are 1000 chapters out there and only gave names and lore to about 300 of them for people to have freedom to make up chapters or write lore for named ones that had none
>>98729181>>98729188>>98729100Ntab but interviews of staff does confirm that the change came right after finishing that ~2012-2014 marine wave.>We've JUST finished a wave of marines and you want us to remake them? What?As to why, it's likely the new CEO wanting to make 40k a normietrap
>>98729021Space rats would actually be cool. But we all know they'll ruin it so it's best left to the imagination.
>>98729204it's a reference to the lost roman legionsit makes the setting cooler because there are mysteries it also makes it more realistic because shit happens and dies
>>98729231Such is life
Late night TQ: What armies feel the worst to play as right now? In your opinion what would make them feel better?
>Fantasy to 40k talk alreadyPERFECT TIMING. What shit from AoS/TOW can you easily shift around into something playable in 40k?>Skaven to GSC/chaos cultists/IG>Cities/Empire to IG>Gargants to Knights>Stormcast to Custodes>Sylvaneth??? and Vampires/OBR to Necrons>any and all ork stuff if you're competent enough>Pretty much anything on a 40mm, 50mm, 60mm, or 120mm oval base for TS>Manifestations as whatever the fuck you want
>>98729189It's still closer to 4 than 3. Is this the American edyoocashun system at work?
>>98729291You said 5 dipshit
>>98729231I cannot imagine anything they could bring to the setting that isn't already being done or wouldn't be cooler as a proper xenos
>>98729301I'm not the person you've been beefing with this is an open forum dweeb. I don't care about the 5, in >>98729100 you should've rounded up to 4 not down to 3. Yes I'm a pedant but you're mathematically wrong, back2school kiddo
>>98728881>If the stormsurge had been some breaching unit meant to stomp forwards from the front lines and point-blank motherfuckers hiding in bunkers and forts like a giant breacher it would have been the tightest shit ever.as things stand now why couldn't one basically use it in such a way with the pulse blaster?
>>98729021Skaven is the best original idea james ever had. If he's willing to release kroot and votann and WE, TS etc.. as their own microfactions with too few kits, he might as well throw skaven out in a similar sized release. ANYTHING over more fucking marines. They sure would outsell votann at least.>>98729302Crude body horror. Chaos is chaos infested. If you're remade by a homonculus you only suffer because they find it funny. If you're remade by skaven you'll suffer because that's the best they can do. At least they would be one more xenos option.
>>98729256>shift around into something playableWhat did he mean by this? Are you talking about like kitbashing guns and shit onto those fantasy units, or just taking your AoS army and just using it as-is in 40K? Both have their flaws... If the former, why would you bother going to all that effort and $$$ when you could just buy the 40K army? If the latter, those AoS factions really don't have enough ranged shit for the attacks they're spitting out to feel believable. I know wysiwyg is gone but this is getting silly
>>98729325daring to include WE in your cope list when they're the posterboys of chaos is hilarious
>>98729325>nasty ratmenThe originality is overhwelming me
>>98729331Show me another setting with that
>>98729331The idea doesn't sound that crazy but as the other anon said, the way GW designed skaven really doesn't exist elsewhere.
>>98729325>Crude body horrorDEldar and Orks have that covered and I'd much rather see some more mad dok abominations than GW lazily port rat ogres to 40K.>At least they would be one more xenos option.They'd be a shit option like votann that provides nothing new besides. Nids have overwhelming chaff hordes on lock, GSC has the sneaky saboteurs, orks have scraptech with Ramshackle, and DEldar have the haemonculi. Skavens don't add anything. The only thing I could really think to give them to stand out is radiation based weaponry but even that is stepping on Admech's toes with whatever their rad-strike detachment is called.At least a theoretical Zoats army would fill out the missing xeno niche of a low-model count elite force to counter custodes, and expand on an already existing facet of the setting to boot.
>>98729333Forgotten Realms has a whole wererat conspiracy going on.>>98729337Their execution is more grimy and more novel, sure, but you can say the same about GW's take on orks.
>>98729353>you can say the same about GW's take on orksI would say the same about most of warhammer, it's what keeps me hooked, but how does that disprove the point that skaven are original? GW steal concepts and inspiration from everywhere but remix/style it in different and interesting ways
>>98729353forgotten realms came out after skaven debuted
>>98729329Are you thinking of something else? World Eaters have 8 unique kits, of which 2 are cultists and 4 are characters.>>98729350There is overlap but both deldar and have lots of other stuff going for them, and orks are on the goofy side too. Deldar do badly need the stuff they've been hemorrhaging over the years redone. As for weapons, they have gas and flame based weaponry too.There are definitely more creative things to do than just port skaven over but I would actually expect skaven to appear at some point because it'll move plastic.
>>98729371>Are you thinking of something else?No, retard
>>98729374Berzerkers being iconic doesn't change the fact that they're just another neglected faction in the catalogue. The launch box has as many unique space marine units as the entire WE line. Call me when they get their second wave.
>>98729371>gas and flame based weaponry too.Flame based goes to SoBs, another neglected faction. Gas I guess could be "unique" but it has a lot of overlap with nid spores.>there are definitely more creative things to do than just port skaven overLike what? Every time I ask this skaven advocates can never give a specific answer that isn't already being provided by 40K. >it'll move plastic.I doubt GW can conceive of a niche and aesthetic that wouldn't compete with AoS. Zoats would probably move just as much plastic as 40skaven.
>>98729381It is kinda funny that the "iconic" Berzerkers are so neglected that they feel like an after thought while shit no one asked for like Votann get two huge waves of models
>>98729407>Like what? Every time I ask this skaven advocates can never give a specific answer that isn't already being provided by 40K. The entire concept of taking a fantasy faction and making it scifi isn't original, james has done it so many times now. I'd rather get something completely different like what IDK was for AoS but I'd settle for skaven in space.>>98729418James didn't even care enough to make red butchers. Baffling.
>>98729302You could say that about a lot of releases.
>>98729302I only want space rats in necromunda, because it fits the sewers environment and would be a fitting enemy for the ratskins
I don't think X-coloured spikey marines or space marines need 500 special models each.
>>98729437CSM was better before Legions got their own armies
>>98729435>I only want space rats in necromundaGood news!
is the Manta Missile Destroyer confirmed in any hard, factual manner to be the FW model we know?i'm kind of at a loss for where all of its ostensibly missile armaments areis there another form of the craft where it's actually given over more to the likes of tau analogue cruise munitions and such?is it simply a 'missile destroyer' in it bearing a facefuck worth of projectile armaments?
>>98729442those are just rats, not space rats, I'm afraid
>>98729452They're literally rats in space
>>98729457They're not literally in space, no
>>98729460What about now
>>98729468woah...
Tau need more war criminals
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98729471They just need to put more emphasis on the subgroups they have created>normal tau>farsight tau>4th sphere racists>greater good cultists
>>98729485>vior'la hyperviolence devotees
>>98729371Do you think he wipes his own arse or does he have a slave that does it for him?>>98728357>tqZotes when?
>>98729371is that a custodes helmet?
>>98729496>>tq>Zotes when?a few years ago, all they need to do is add him to the imperial agents, chaos marines, aeldari, dark eldar, genestealer cults, tyranids, and tau codexes.
>>98729444Checked
>>98729505They are unaligned units which means technically they are already usable in any Army that allows Legends. Don't know if they made the jump from 10th to 11th though
>>98729505god that zoat is a fucking daddy studpotentially the sexiest 40k model unless i'm having a serious gap in memory here
well he's up there with the neurolictor at least;3
Is there a BL trove anywhere? I'm trying to find the updated version of Sabbat Worlds Crusade, but all the usual book sites only have the OG.
Do you think the imperium would respect the tau more if they were more genocidal?
>>98729617I don't think their behavior enters into the equation at all. They are contemptible purely because they are not human. That is their inevitable mark of sin. They are not their God's chosen people and never can be and must die for that purpose.
Kitbashing is fun.Ethereal proxy coming along.
>highlight my brass scorpion chaos trim with hashut copper>can't notice a differencewelp hopefully someone will notice on the table top
I wish the SoS got to divorce the gay ass banana guards instead of being stuck in that army.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/vygelghy/new-army-rules-from-codex-adeptus-custodes/
So this came up in a thread yesterday, but how the fuck does SoB work with the leg armour effectively being thigh-high boots that're disconnected from the rest of the suit?Anons suggested power cables like a garter belt, but that doesn't solve the issue that it's not the boots that need support from the chest, it's the other way around, if the boots aren't part of the main suit then the full weight of the power armour is resting on the Sister's thighs/hips.I'd swear this was even an issue with MkI for Marines/Thunder Warriors because often only the torso was powered due to a focus on melee, yet this led to the wearers legs being overtaxed as he had to carry the entire powered armor with no powered assistance.Except this is even worse because at least MkI legs are directly connected to the suit and thus the armour is self-supporting mechanically. SoB armour doesn't even have that.
>>98729675What's that chest piece from?
>>98729705>I wish armies got split into single themes with 1 or 2 units like early AoS instead of being stuck in a functional armyYou have to go back
>>98729549Check /t/, there's a BL torrent somewhere IIRC
>>98729705"..."
>>98729710nta but that's a Skitarii chest, upper legs and coat
>>98729549https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna's_Archive?useskin=vector
>>98729707Maybe the boots aren't power armoured.
>>98729715So this is the power of having girlbosses...
>>98729707>with the leg armour effectively being thigh-high boots that're disconnected from the rest of the suit?who says they're disconnected?
>>98729716Huh, so it is. I was reading the upper chest texture I couldn't quite parse as fur and trying to rack my brain on what model had pelts and robes
What faction to play if you like flying saucer extraterrestrials?
>>98729720Then we just have the same issue. The Sister still has to carry the full weight of her powered plate + reactor pack entirely on her leg muscles with no assistance (powered or merely structural).The issue isn't getting power to the disconnected legs, it's the legs being disconnected means the suit isn't self-supporting structurally.>>98729728Some art depictions, the discussion yesterday was specifically to try and turn an e-thot having a meltie into an actual on-topic question
>>98729705Either separate fully, joined to grey knights instead, or grey knights join the custodes too.
>>98729705>I wish the SoS got to divorce the gay ass banana guards instead of being stuck in that army.So they would sell even less and so GW would delete the whole faction?You have only 1 group of people to blame for the SoS failing, and it is the so called SoS "fans".
>>98729731Tau are the closest you're gonna get, with them being little blue men with funny flying saucer drones
>>98729705And where are they gonna go huh? To the trash can where they belong?
>>98729732So you just want to be autistic and retarded again. Pick a new argument then.
>>98729736>You have only 1 group of people to blame for the SoS failingGW for not expanding their range.
>>98729707Artificial muscle fiber bundles.
>>98729737Thanks
>>98729730>>98729710Other anon is right. Worth noting that I have shaved off the thin trim and a lot of the other mechanicus-specific details so that the final model doesn't just look like a tau cosplaying a skitarii.
>>98729741>So you just want to be autistic and retarded again.No, I'm now actually wondering.>>98729744Yeah that'd work, that's basically what the Astartes plate has in the gaps between plates.Speaking of, do we actually know how they put it on/is there like some bit under the backplate with no fibre bundles so they can step into it? Or is the muscle-fibre part of the bodysuit just able to weave together over the seams?
>>98729741>So you just want to be autisticWhere the fuck do you think you are?
>>98729705so deldar shitty codex was a blueprint for this one? effectively currency abilities that are just a strategem tax on the units
>Not only are they highly resistant to this warp trickeryThey should be immunereee
>>98729732>Some art depictionsillustrations can be all over the place, there are certainly multiple different configurations of sob armor, and technobabble can go a very long waya few options>instead of simpler hydraulic pistons there's an undersuit of synthetic fibres that contract when there's need for power or support>some types of armor are lightweight and the power provides leg strength, arm strength, spine strength, and lesser shielding, instead of total carrying capacity >some hydraulic parts of the suit are disengaged and hidden behind cloths until it's needed for them to spring into action (and visibility)>the illustration is inaccurate
>>98729742Reason GW hasn't expanded their range is because nobody buys them.
>>98729779>nobody buys thembecause gw hasn't expanded the rangethe popularity of a range correlates with the size of the range, and this isn't a matter of gw expanding the range in response to popularity because they have made new ranges from the ground up and arbitrarily given them large ranges, that immediately prove popular, before any sales data comes their way as feedback
>>98729770fatty
>>98729381why does eavy metal love doing NMM on banners but won't do it anywhere else?
Are there any sources for different armies' sales figures or popularity? Obviously shit like space marines sells gangbusters, but I'm curious as to which xenos armies are selling the most. I see the most discussion about orks and especially tau in recent years, but I know this doesn't always correlate to actual popularity.
GW seem to like "action when..." rules this edition, even though there are very few actions actually required in games and units have more incentive to not shoot in the first place making it easier to do them. Similar thing with detection range bonuses, what kind of lists are their playtesters using to think these abilities are worth paying for?
>>98729795They're forced to follow specific recipes for stuff like armour and trim, but they can kinda do their own thing on stuff like banners. Also probably because the details on banners are flat, so they won't look as good on camera with just metallic pigment, which need to be reflecting multiple different angles to really look good.
>>98729800Orks weren't popular outside the 40+ demographic until they because really strong at the end of 10th and are now in the starter set. The best selling non-marines are always either OP for an extended period of time or in starter sets with marines. There's a few objectively unpopular ones, but the others exist on a rough par in pure popularity.
>>98729325>Skaven>Xenos factionWatAlso the Imperium is Skaven, retard, down to the new Dark King fluff having him be 'Encroaching Ruin' with rat-faced daemons
>>98729779>Reason GW hasn't expanded their range is because nobody buys them.The reason is because GW's stock ownership is 85% private equity groups and the company constantly has 20 different monkeys on their back screeching in their ear to minmax quarterly profits and do everything they can to take control away from the creative roles within GW.It's not that NOBODY buys niche armies it's that it isn't explosively profitable to sell niche armies and the carrion-eating vultures that run private equity want the green line to go up.
>>98729800>Are there any sources for different armies' sales figures or popularity?No, it's all spooks
>>98729807The dark king fluff has literally nothing of the sort.
Reminder that the (retarded) braintrust on /40kg/ consistently declares Votann an army "nobody buys or plays" but in player count/armies played polls or graphs they are usually middle of the road and above armies like admech, SoB, DE and EC
>>98729809Those aren't private equity. They're banks and investment managers that hold shares on behalf of their customers. There's still a legal responsibility to maximise returns for shareholders, but Vanguard's management aren't voting with those shares. The form comes to me.
>>98729817Pic related, retard. And the aetheric dominion is literally called Encroaching Ruin, what the fuck are you on about?
>>98729817I wish I too could be so confident when asserting shit I so obviously know nothing about
Custodes rules feel like what Marine "versatility" should be, rather than the purely mobility buffs we actually get.
>>98729832>Waaah, why don't we get this as well, getting S5 and T5 baseline wasn't enoughThe absolute state of Marinetroons
>>98729828That's not rat faced, he's not connected to the dark king or to the encroaching ruin, nor the dominion to the horned rat.You're retarded and running on schizophrenic headcanon and blind eyes.
>>98729803makes sense. i'm not a huge fan of the highlight everything mandate they have but GW box arts are realistically achievable for most painters with enough practiceone of my (minor) complaints with nunightbringer is that the box art is too good. even a good painter's paintjob isn't going to look anything like the box on this one
>>98729833Fuck off compfag, the theme bros are talking.
>>98729834>he's not connected to the dark king or to the encroaching ruinThe fucking rules PDF is a free download, you have literally no excuse for this retardation
>>98729831feel free to post anything that actually supports that delusion
Marines are eldar now and apparently it's entitlement to be dissatisfied with that, even though half the thread cries about primaris every day.
>>98729848>Marines are eldar now>nowThe Aspect Marines didn't tip you off?
>>98729847>He's still going after having his ass blown out twice now
>>98729828That's more of a Dog Face rather than a Rat, which makes some sense since Samus does become a Khorne Demon
>>98729828that looks like a wolf nose rather than a rat nose desu. actual GW rat nose for comparison.
>>98729828>rat-faced
>>98729828>Samus40k.jpg>looks inside>it's 30K fagshitHHsissies need to dial8 and then fuck off back to their general.
>>98729851>which makes some sense since Samus does become a Khorne DemonSee >>98729846, he's explicitly not a Khorne daemon in his rules
>>98729807There's no reason for them to have the same origin in 40k as they do in fantasy. They could be uplifted rats or evolved naturally. The game certainly doesn't need another imperium or chaos faction.>spoilerThat's retarded. Humans don't behave according to the skaven nature.
>>98729852better comparison would be the old Forge World Verminlord
>>98729846Alright, I concede he is connected to the encroaching ruin, after everything was said and done and most likely by exclusion and only for rules purposes.But he's not rat faced and the horned rat has nothing to do with encroaching ruin or with the dark king.
>>98729855>Discussing a plotline entirely related to 30k lore>Noo, why are they posting 30k shit as evidence?>>98729863>That's retarded. Humans don't behave according to the skaven nature.>Massed waves of disposable grunts>Elite warriors enhanced by gene-editing>Strange technological weaponry they themselves don't understand that often misfires and kills them>Literally led by a Council of 13 in absence of their god-rulerDo I need to go on or have you had your ass blown out enough to sate you for the day?
>>98728384MODS IT'S BREAKING GR15 AND HE DIDN'T EVEN POST BEST GIRL (APPLEJACK)!!!!
>>98729858That's why I said "becomes" since post-HH, to continue existing, Samus pledges himself to Khorne.I don't think he's ever shown up in a 40 K narrative, though maybe Abnett will use him in a book
>>98729871/tg/ is a fluttershy board
>>98729867>after everything was said and done and most likely by exclusion and only for rules purposes.Prove it retard.>But he's not rat facedAnd neither is >>98729864, then?>the horned rat has nothing to do with encroaching ruinOh no no noJust admit you came in swinging, had no idea what you were on about (as seen by the bizare 'he's not Encroaching Ruin' and 'oh I guess I concede he's connected but totally not haha right?') and are trying to save face
>>98729864Still so far apart you might as well be comparing it to a tyranid.
>>98729870Yet you labeled it as 40K. Are you retarded, or just desperate for validation from /40kg/?
>>98729872>That's why I said "becomes" since post-HH, to continue existing, Samus pledges himself to Khorne.[Citation Needed]>>98729879>He used common shorthand for the setting which isn't 100% correctKYS
>>98729864Even the verminlord has a pointed, angular nose while Sissy Sam up here >>98729828 has a rounded, doglike nose
>>98729828I'm pretty sure he was described as hound headed in novels, you must he the first and only to see a rat in there.
>>98729882HH =/= 40K, retard. You may as well say WHF and AoS are the same setting.
>>98729889Go away James
Played a game of Orks vs Space Wolves last night at 1.5k points. Ran a very strange set of detachments (kult of speed, green tide, and dread mob) to go up against the wolves thanks to an anon's suggestion here. Ended up being a really fun game overall.Gonna post some pictures and key moments.Start of the battle, wolves went first, orks had too many models to fit them all behind cover. Had to put some stuff out in the open.
>>98729891You first, HHsissy.
>>98729876>Prove it retard.All other aetheric dominions are way more explicitly connected to a known god or archetype of demon, encroaching ruin is the only one that represents undivided, and samus is meant to be undivided, or at least unaligned.The concept of the 8 aetheric dominions wasn't present at the time the novels were written so he definitely didn't have any association with encroaching ruin there, and as a matter of fact the alleged connection to the dark king you propose is exclusively indirect through this encroaching ruin thing, regardless of the fact that the dark king is not the only entity that can represent the encroaching ruin and samus never being linked in any way whatsoever to the emperor or dark king during the novels.
>>98729899>The concept of the 8 aetheric dominions wasn't present at the time the novels were written>HH2.0 (when the specific Encroaching Ruin dominion became a thing) release date = 2022>The End and the Death release date = 2023You just can't help yourself, can you?
>>98729893Wolves popped a buggy on their turn 1, but nothing else other than movement happened. My turn, however, had me make a gigantic blunder that I wouldn't realize until my charge phase.My wartrike riled his own unit up and used 12" movement with +1 to advances to get right up into some blood claws' faces. Ready to charge while shooting into another nearby unit. However, the other unit wasnt in range of my shooting. That was fine. However again, I completely forgot that bikes don't have mobile, and can't go through walls. So I couldn't charge the nearby unit, either. Basically threw my bikes and wartrike out into the open to get splattered during his next turn. Whoops.
>>98729828>ratI'm genuinely convinced ratfags are braindeadthis is not even the first time this has happened
>>98729899>samus never being linked in any way whatsoever to the emperor or dark king during the novels.He's explicitly created as a result of Erebus backstabbing Loken, have you actually read ANY of the shit you're claiming backs you up?>All other aetheric dominions are way more explicitly connected to a known god or archetype of demonAh yes, each of the other 7 aetheric dominions is connected to one of other Chaos Gods, of which there are famously 7
So Custodes will be up for Preorder next week on Saturday since they are getting an art article on friday>Join us next week as we head to the 41st Millennium for a guided tour of the Imperial Palace, courtesy of the artwork of the Adeptus Custodes.
>>98729906Samus wasn't introduced in that novel, and even in that novel he never had anything to do with the dark king.
>>98729907The wolf turn 2 wasn't nearly as bad as I had expected it to be. My dakkarig destroyed Ragnar's unit, leaving him alone, and nearly got destroyed itself by his lancer, only living due to a lucky command reroll for a 5+ save.His blood claws destroyed 5 of my bikes, which wasn't nearly as bad as that could've gone considering my blunder. He dropped some terminators and jump pack vets behind me that both failed their charges, too. Ragnar also cleaned up another of the ork buggies.
>>98729893Looks cool, anon. And yeah, I've also had issues with fitting everything into deployment on some setups.>>98729907Eyeballing it and assuming the bloodclaws are on the bottom floor, that does look doable? It's too late now obviously, but assuming the chaplain was within 2" of the gate, you should have been able to get at least the warboss in there.
>>98729770i don't think this was a wardrobe malfunction, just a hoe being a hoe...
>>98729913the Samus model even had the Khorne keyword when he first got rules in 2017
>>98729913I second >>98729909, you're continually making assertions, getting blown out, then changing track.Retarded or low effort trolling, which is it?>>98729922And as we all know, GW would never, EVER retcon shit like that when they decide on a new story concept later, would they?
>>98729909>He's explicitly created as a result of Erebus backstabbing LokenWhich has explicitly nothing to do with the dark king.>of which there are famously 7there are more than 7, but the associations with the gods and demonic archetypes couldn't be clearer: 4 are the gods we know the most, one is vashtorr, one is undivided/the everchosen/the dark king/the warmaster, one is malal/malice/belakor, the final one is spawndom, which morghur would cover more than anything else ever introduced in warhammer up until this point, and morghur is a greater entity than many assume, not having read its fluff.
>>98729916Ork turn 2 was obviously waaagh! turn, so it was time for some big swings. By this point I was down 22-41 in favor of the wolves, so I had some climbing to do.And climb I did. I used my wartrike to fallback and charge the jump pack vets instead of the blood claws. My boyz that were waiting for this moment took the opportunity to charge the blood claws instead.>>98729919If it was a tournament? Probably. Casual game though so we mostly played with intent and his intent was clearly to be far enough away from the walls to block charges. We lol'd at my blunder and moved on.
>>98729925Fun little image of my dakkarig and warbuggies trying to take down a lancer and utterly failing. Tough bugger.
>>98729924>one is undivided/the everchosen/the dark king/the warmaster>encroaching ruin is the only one that represents undividedWhich is it retard?
>>98729929is that a 3d printed turret?
>>98729923Not really about GW retcon in the future, but more about the intention of the sculptor and the original design of the Forge World team back in the day.they wanted him to be a Khorne demon, so he has several Demonic Khorne elements like a dog face, red, black and brass colour scheme ect.
>>98729929I like that little orange marker, seems like a nice battleshock marker.
>>98729923>you're continually making assertions, getting blown out, then changing track.No, that's what anon is doingI'm challenging his assertions, if the tracks are changing it's because I give him the chance to prove his stance but instead of doing so he pretends that something completely unrelated matters, or that by correcting stuff that doesn't change the point he can somehow prove that point is invalid.Please prove he's rat faced, or prove he's at any point connected to the dark king in novels.
>>98729929On the other side of the board, my warboss with his boyz unit charged the lone Ragnar and made for a very cinematic shot.The warboss decimated ragnar on his own, not needing any assistance from his unit of boyz.Notably, it's worth mentioning that we spent a good 10 minutes resolving ork shooting from just the 2 boyz units (12 shootas, 2 burnas, 2 rokkits, 2 big shootas, and 2 kustom shootas) to do a total of 2 wounds to Ragnar and a dead blood claw. And then we had to charge and get lethal hits and sustained hits in melee due to boyz rule+green tide rule. Just so much little doodads and abilities thrown around that I can't imagine how long a genuine 120 boyz green tide game would take.>>98729933The whole thing is printed. It's a version of the lancer with tracks instead of hovering.
>>98729938>if the tracks are changing it's because I give him the chance to prove his stance but instead of doing so he pretends that something completely unrelated matters>The dark king fluff has literally nothing of the sort.>That's not rat faced, he's not connected to the dark king or to the encroaching ruin, nor the dominion to the horned rat.>Alright, I concede he is connected to the encroaching ruin, after everything was said and done and most likely by exclusion and only for rules purposes.>encroaching ruin is the only one that represents undivided>one is undivided/the everchosen/the dark king/the warmasterYeah, I can see, none of the track changing was down to you and you are merely doing the needful, my apologies to you saar
>>98729932they don't contradict each other, anon
>>98729944>Encroaching Ruin represents Undivided, not the Dark King>One is both Undivided/the Dark KingWhich is it, retard?
>>98729923>this model is COHNCREET PICTORAL EBBIDANCE that something something space skaven, you can tell by his rat face>what do you mean he was originally a khorne demon and that's a dogface, it's SOOO OBVIOUS they retconned his dogface into a rat's face because of some book I read!I was just following this faggotry from the sidelines, but excuse me? Did you just cite this model as evidence for your claim and then claim the sculpt itself was retconned from dog to rat?
>>98729942With a deff dread and wartrike dealing with the terminators and jump vets in the backline, they couldn't move anywhere. Everything was already in combat so aside from some shooting our turns 3 and 4 were very short. Lots of bodies being dropped on both sides. The boyz came out on top in both of their combats and proceeded to get some good scoring for me.It's time to say now that Deff dreads finally feel genuinely tough. I had 2 in this game and 1 survived 2 turns of combat against terminators, and the other survived 3 battle rounds worth of combat against intercessors, taking them nearly down on its own, too.
>>98729950No?I said that Samus could have been intended as Khorne but retconned to the Dark King and the fact his rat-face fits the latter may have been part of itThe model being rat-faced alone would not be evidence. But GW making the rat-faced Daemon Prince follow the god with Encroaching Ruin who is directly tied into the faction with the symbolism listed here all adds up >>98729870
>>98729870>Massed waves of disposable gruntsHave you heard of WW1?>Literally led by a Council of 13 in absence of their god-rulerThe high lords of terra are 12, not 13.Again, skaven are incapable of selfless acts. That alone is a fundamental difference.
>>98729945>>Encroaching Ruin represents Undivided, not the Dark KingI didn't say that, I said the dark king is not the only entity or archetype that can represent the encroaching ruin>One is bothI didn't say both either, I made a list of stuff that can represent that dominion >none of the track changing was down to you it wasn't, I told you he wasn't rat faced and that he didn't have anything to do with the dark king and you began sperging out about other things as if they somehow proved that he was rat faced and connected to the dark kingwhere's the rat face, anon?where's the link to the dark king in the novel?
>>98729952Last picture, so I'll wrap it up here.The terminators prevailed against the deff dread and wartrike to steal my home objective, and the boyz were able to destroy the lancer in combat and have enough time to take back the center from his remaining intercessors afterwards.We called the game at the end of round 4 due to time restraints, which left the score at 80-78 in favor of the orks. The wolves put up a damn good fight but my secondary scoring was just a little better than the wolves'. Overall a very fun game with a lot of rules checking due to it being both of our second games in 11th.
>>98729959>the rat-faced Daemon PrinceHe's not rat-faced though.
>>98729961>Have you heard of WW1?You mean one of the big inspirations for the Skaven as a faction?>The high lords of terra are 12, not 13.They're 12 + 1, what does that equal anon-kun?>>98729962>where's the rat face, anon?Right on Samus' model, as seen when contrasted with >>98729864Unsurprisingly, I already pointed this out and yet you dodged it. Too bad you can do the same with trains, Ranjeet
>>98729870just because it is unreliable it doesn't mean that they don't understand the tech they make
>>98729970It looks nothing like >>98729864
>>98729975>The Imperium understands the tech they makeSecondary detected
>>98729959But he was sculpted and statted as Khorne daemon first and foremost and your counter to that is it was later retconned. As in AFTER the model was made. So they made a dogfaced khorne daemon knowing in a few years they'd retcon it to rat and now the dogface is magically a ratface? Make it make sense, man.
>>98729979If they didn't, they wouldn't have 6 gorillion lasgun patterns.
skavenfags truly are the worst retards in warhammer
>>98729981No they made a rat-faced Khorne daemon and retconned it to the god associated with rats
>>98729966how did you find your detachment choices?
>>98729984>What is a STC patternOh no no no
tell me more about lord disco
>>98729870>>Strange technological weaponry they themselves don't understand that often misfires and kills themWhat do orks have to do with your HH faggotry? Even the "unreliable" Imperium tech is reliably unreliable. Plasma guns are known to overload and explode, lasguns don't. It's not a roll of the dice on practically every single piece of tech like orks/skaven.
>>98729989>rat-faced Khorne daemonMay I see it? Because you posted a dogfaced one.
>>98729807>imperium is skavenSecondary retard.
>>98729970>You mean one of the big inspirations for the Skaven as a faction?WW1 inspired both the guard and skaven. Literal actual humans fought in it. We did that.>They're 12 + 1, what does that equal anon-kun?The imperium was ruled by a council of 12 for ten thousand years until GW needed to sell more plastic. Did guilliman cause everyone to spontaneously sprout tails?>>98729929>>98729942Your orks look fantastic on the table. Love the blue. The wolves are well painted too.
This thread is proof
>>98729921Doubtless
>>98730005Do Indians even play 40k?The only groups of people I see with minis are either white guys, Hapas, and East Asians
>>98730005>>98730010Pretty sure it's an australian again.Not much of a difference tbqh
>>98729995Not all lasguns were made from STC pattern.If you knew anything about the fluff, you'd know that the Krieg Lucius pattern lasguns aren't based on an STC pattern.
>>98729979I'm talking about the ratsalso the number 12 is not a connection or reference to the skaven's use of the number 13, both are references to the recurring use of 12 in religious texts and other stories.for example the empire of sigmar is also built around the number 12 since it was founded by the 12 tribes of the region, the symbol of the gods of law in warhammer is a sun dial, which of course is make of 12 portions, and the halo that's recurrent in aos also most often has 12 main rays to separate it from the 8 of chaos.It's also possible that gw said explicitly that sigmar's holy number was 12, but that would have happened in a white dwarf and I'm not going to go look up for it.
>>98730013>Do Indians even play 40k?No, hence why they're the most secondary of secondaries>>98730014Fuck off you daft cunt, you're replying to an Aussie
>>98730018Called it, lmao
>>98729989>No they made a rat-faced Khorne daemonwhere?
>>98729993I have models for dread mob, green tide, elite tide, and speed freaks. I asked here what I should focus on and an anon said I should mix them all, so I decided to do 500pts of the 3 lists
Someone should make Skaven SoB covered in decals with naked thighsI think that'd make /40kg/ 404
>>98729997the fact that this box is still in stock tells me 2 things1. it's a bad deal2. disco is dead
actually unreal how much a downgrade nu aquilons are compared to the old ones
>>98730024I wish your mom was Lindsey Clancy
>>98730024Good news, joke/reference is in the lead
>>98730027They both look like retarded goldbricks, I don't see the issue.
Sex with Lhykis
>>98730027I think part of that is simply the change from Foregworld painting style to a Eavy Metal one but these models do seem less static as well
>>98730028Wouldn't it make more sense to wish his mom was the father (the one who actually killed the kids)?
>rat-faced
>>98730013I've seen a number of british-born pakis who got into it when all their friends did in the 80s and 90s.Don't see many younger south asians in warhammer though, and not really outside of britain either.
>>98730044Pic related, a rat
>>98730041>just like my twue cwime dwamas!You gonna show your tits again, e-thot?
>>98730044I have no horse in this race, but that looks like a bear slightly
>>98730041>he unironically believes "the husband did it"Yikes
>>98730007Thanks dude, Im extremely proud of how the dakkarig in particular turned out. I found a contrast paint that's nearly identical to my basecoat+wash so I was able to use that to mix with my basecoat and actually glaze my shades. Never really did that before because my shade didn't mix well with my basecoat. Always turned out a different color.This however has me excited to do the trukk. I'm much more confident on flat panels now.
>>98729828
>>98730062>he
>>98729942I think if you were playing green tide stuff you'd probably learn when to skip out on all the shootas and so just to save time. Like in that situation, since you're about to charge Ragnar, there's no need to roll the shots on him.
>>98730027>moldline on right's power fistGrim.
>>98730066There are no women on the internet and troons aren't real women.
>>98730064>Jubal-thingniggas at BL ripping off the thing now...
>>98730068Yeah, fair enough. If we're really strapped for time then I'd probably skip some stuff, but for that specifically I was trying to get my charge into another unit. So if Ragnar died I'd be free to charge them instead. Had to get as many wounds in him as possible.
>>98730026That whole wave of battleforces was kinda weird. It felt like GW thought battleforces would always sell out no matter what so they randomly made a whole bunch of them. And I don't think that's a particularly bad box, it'd be an excellent addition to a CSM combat patrol, for example. The main weakness of it is that it contains 20 cultists rather than 10 + something else.
>>98729961>Again, skaven are incapable of selfless actsHumans in 40k are incapable too
>>98730085What about the guardsman who stood between the wounded Emperor and Horus?
>>98730092georg pius is an outlier adn should not be counted
I'm going to try to magnet my nemesis clawdo people use 3mm x 1 or 2mm x 1?
>>9873007840k is built on rip-offs of other IPs
>>98730073Anon, those are the old resin ones.
>>98730027They look literally the same other than the retarded topknots.
>>98730103I'd say it depends on where you're doing the magnetizing. For shoulder/torso joints on legionary bodies 3mm, for wrist/hand joints 2mm.
How does GW have a minimum resale price of 15% of MSRP if the UK has a law against setting minimum resale prices?
>>98730064Nta you were arguing with, but calling something the [Name]-thing is textbook Skaven isn't it?
>>98730125Same reason the EIC got away with just ignoring UK laws in its time
>>98730119The aquilas on top of the new ones are so small they're almost nonexistent, I think that turns people off.
>>98730133
>>98730129No, skaven don't do that with proper names.
>>98729908now it's complete
>>98730125Don't they just call it a "suggested retail price" and lots of store choose to undercut that value anyway at the risk of losing their own margins?
>>98728486Mandrakes vs Night Lords brawls are just fashionistas catfighting over leather coats
is there any reason to take deamon prince over vashtorr?
>>98730195It's significantly cheaper, even factoring in bosts from enhancements. There are some good ones it can carry. If you run Cabal of Chaos as your 1DP it can get really punchy and isn't forced to go Khorne to crack tougher targets.
>>98730180Who wore it best?
>>98730125Wayland sell most GW stuff at 20% off.
>>98730195/yourdudes/
>>98730195winged on tzeentch with tzagulla gets funny from deepstrike
Okay anons should I read a BL book or paint a mini
>>98730013>Do Indians even play 40k?they keep getting caught playing with loaded dice at tournaments for izzat
>>98730125Where I live (northern europe) GW has no minimum resale price, you can sell their product for whatever you like. Source: I'm a GW retailer. If someone told you GW has a minimum resale price they lied to you, likely because they didn't want to sell stuff any cheaper to you.
New custodes rules seem fun and interesting. :)I hope we get some access to advance and charge in detachments though :)
>>98730229Oh yeah for sure :)
>>98730219paint a mini, bl books are for when you don't have any minis
>>98730235Gotcha
I kinda want another melee squad my current stack is rhino clown car with CL and chosensfor second one which one should I go betweenMoPMoEHuronDark Apostle?
>>98730235>when you don't have any minisNo minis to paint?Does such a state even exist?
>>98730248>Does such a state even exist?it's called secondarism, and it's terminal
>>98730242For Chosen? Huron for big beats, MoE for cheaper beats. My favorite though is sticking a Sorcerer in them, he's a dirt cheap little fucker and his -1 to hit stacks with cover. Makes Chosen a pain to kill.
>>98729731I think you should go necrons and replace any instance of a skeletal dude with something elsethey've got the crazy weapons, the tall spindly walkers, and their flyer is almost disc shaped
So why did they have to go and ruin something perfect? Who asked for 50 shades of gravshit doing the same thing both in game and lore?
>>98730275because they kept showing 2nd company ultras and the most common thing after is "we actually don't follow the full codex" in order to not paint the pauldron trims differently
>>98730027Why did they do it? Hoe can it be so hard for the retards to just copy the resin kit designs like they did with the og plastic mkiii? I fucking hate millennials having to make existing things their own by making them shit compared to the original
>>98730275>Who asked for 50 shades of gravshit doing the same thing both in game and lore?All the people buying them since their introduction, and in greater numbers than anyone ever bought or will ever buy manlets.
>>98730195DPs are somehow less gay
How do I acquires lascannons for my lego?
>>98729291I don't care about 4 I'm talking to a guy who said it's 5. When I say it's 3 and it's 3 and 3/4 that's more accurate than the guy who said 5. Also you have terminal American rent free syndrome it was like, 3 AM in America when you posted that.
>>98730342Idk ask /hhg/
>>98730342>lascannons>legoPick-a-brick part number 6273322
>>98728364im getting deja vu from the advertisement campaign of contrast paints. no chance that shit is good whatsoever. also if it is, its going to take GW a gajillion years to actually release all the colours youd need.
>>98730394>no chance that shit is good whatsoeverContrast paints are great if you aren't fuck ass retarded and we have like 15 different videos of watching paint dry timelapses that showcase this is how they look after applied thickGW can actually come out with a good product every now and again, you're just too much of a pessimistic faggot to realize that
>>98728543There should be a whole army of titans for every faction and then they should all promptly be removed to their own gamemode of full scale Titanic battles. >Ork stompas>Chaos knights/yuge daemons>Imperial knights>Necron big constructs (will need more models)>Eldar wraith knights >Dark eldar giga barges that fly around fast>Tau big battlesuits>Massive tyranid beasts
>>98728364This reminds me of an old priming with gesso before and after.>>98730394Clearly other people like them since every company decided to copy them.
Hey so remember how they said they'd drop updated stats for CSM too when Marines got their bump?Yeah where the fuck is it, they've done notbing but cover cuntstodes this week
>>98730418>expecting GW to keep to a promise they gave
Just bought a box of Zoanthropes and a Maleceptor. Realized both kits come with parts for venomthropes and toxicrenes too. That’s 12 spare tentacles per kit, and I’m planning to just double them up later. What the hell am I going to do with 48 spare tentacles?
>>98730418Marines haven't gotten their bump yet you impatient freak.
>>98730421It's happening tomorrow and they already gave a peek at non-Codex Marines.
Went from being interested to drukhari to falling in love with black Templars and blood angels and tau
How do I prime all the little tiny spare guns can swap out later?
another Custodes article>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/axmsjwwa/new-custodes-what-you-need-to-know/
>>98730431Codex isn’t out till October.
>>98730431Codex is out next week.
>>98730440Nothingnurger article that only confirms what we already knewAres and Orion dodged legends at least
>>98730432>Pristecof Prresia>The Zangs of Timeholy fuck dude
>>98730440no...
>>98730436Stick them to something bigger and prime them thereBlu-tack, etc.Or cut a big bit of the sprue out with the part and paint/prime. This works better for stuff like heads where the sprue attachment point is hidden so it won't need painted after the fact.>>98730450We already got the marines legends list, the Rhino and LR survived.I figure it's GW trying to differentiate their product lines a bit more.
>>98730447It's a real treasure trove>AFRC SIR PNOS: MSDFT MANTDD>PES 2010>Counter Stake>Call ot Duty. Modern Marpare>Plants & Zowries>Crash Porrige
With how elite Custodes seem to become how elite will my Grey Knights be when our Codex launches? How many points will 20 Paladins/Terminators be?
custodes deathball with trajann will absolutely need either more sisters or allies in right? you're not gonna be able to stretch them that thin
>>98730446>Ares and Orion dodged legends at leastI wonder if it's just to squeeze some extra out of the moulds or because they plan on making plastic versions
>>98730415God, I wish Legion Imperialis had been 40k instead of 30k. It's actually a pretty fun game.
>>98730441>>98730443I fuckin' HATE the three week anouncement/pre-order schedule
>>98730440I think it's a good thing GW puts out articles like these, telling people what's going away and what's staying. Props.
>>98730073Forgeworld never really bothered with QC. I mean look at this Forgeworld Immolator. Look at the gap between the forgeworld parts and the Rhino body.
>>98730459Lions will be 1dp and have a 1cp strat to break up a terminator unit on deployment, it is known
>>98729705And where the fuck would they go instead? Imperial Agents? Grey Knights? They don't have enough units to be a full army.
>>98730458best we can do is marine bodies priced as if they're always playing into demons.
>>98730356>necros just to throw a hissy fit>thinks the US has only one timezoneOh yeah the seppo's mad and uneducated
>>98730415orks already have the stompa kit, the naut kit and the kans, dread and new dakkarigthey would be set for a knights-like detachmentchaos knights will never stay up to the pace of models imperial knights get, and expecting them to add spikes on loyalists is too much from chaosfags, so they should just get bundled in the normal chaos codex and their detachment should give them the option to run the various demon engines as wellnecrons have the scenery pieces, the monolith, the obelisk and the tesseract vault, it would be unconventional, but it would be fun to field just "buildings" for such a detachmenteldar would need a second knight type, ideally the bright stallion, and then make peace with war walkers and they would be settau already have their robots and knight-sized robot, having the smallest ones of the bunch makes sense for themtyranids have a lot of monsters but not a knight sized one, give them one of those and they're ready to rumble fuck dark eldar honestly
>>98730492>necrons have the scenery pieces, the monolith, the obelisk and the tesseract vault, it would be unconventional, but it would be fun to field just "buildings" for such a detachmentDetachment: TOMB WORLD
>>98730499yeah, at best they could have the canopteks as maintenance and ctans as power sources
>decay and excessNurgle and Slaanesh>vengeance and retribution>freedomCORAX>untethered soulFERRUS MANUS
>>98730516>freedom
>>98730490Just kill yourself you pedantic faggot.
Custodes being the first Codex after the release factions seems like a weird choice
>>98730527It's going to be miserable as most armies bounce off T7 at first. Meta will shift to S8+ spam then along will come a horde ish army and then be anti meta and miserable.
Someone should made citadel and its tone pro equivalents sheet
>>98730522Look at him unravel, what a miserable sight man just take the L with grace.
>>98730536Just wait for stahly to update the pdf.
>>98730520FREEDOM
>>98730516>forgeFERRUSLORDMANUSIRON
>>98730492im not sure if i want knights getting dark pacts/cults/whatever new csm related rule just so they can chill with defilers and forgefiends and an overworked warpsmith/sorcerer-mechanic
>>98730492Dark Eldar are incapable of fucking honestly
>>98730420start a slaanesh daemon army, duh.
>Ferrus Manus of the Iron Hands>Corvus Corax of the Raven GuardThis is so fucking stupid. I can't take this shit seriously
>>98730577>lost primarch of the second legionwtf gw didn't even finish writing their lore! Lazy!
>>98730492>>98730566>fuck dark eldar honestlyTANTALUSTHOSE KNIGHT SIZED GROTESQUES THAT EXIST PURELY IN FLUFF BLURBS
>>98730577the worst one is actually that Dark Angel is a poem by Lionel Johnston.It's all stupid. It's fun though.
>>98730590That is at least a cultural reference, not the name of the legion in Latin as it's primarch's name
>2 full sized sprues for a single infantry unitbravo Games workshop.
Raven guard primarch makes sense though if GW is making a raven guard codexPlus they could choose to be cool like the TOW team with the cathayan dragons and give him a human form and a RAVEN DAEMON form
>>98730619I dunno ask >>98712616
>>98730630Sorry, my mistake. I didn't realize there was a dedicated HH general.
>>98730629>cool like the TOW team with the cathayan dragonsYou mean cool like the AoS team with giving Morathi two forms?
>>98730603The Primarch of the Death Guard is named "death"The Primarch of the World Eaters is named "anger"The Primarch of the White Scars is named after a real Mongol leaderThe Primarch of the Iron Warriors is named "I shall endure" in LatinThe Primarch of the Alpha Legion is named for Revelation 21:6, and many other lines as well since the phrase "I am the Alpha and the Omega" is used very frequently in Revelation.They're all contrived cheesy bullshit.
>>98730629>Raven guard
>>98730577>Taking Warhammer seriously Ishyggdt
>admech welding axesAre there any thematic or in world reason for this other than that's what the original models used?
>>98730629>small chance that Corvus returns Oh, boy! I can't wait for GW to bring back another loyalist Primarch, give them an irrelevant subplot that no one cares about, and proceed to not matter for years because this is NothingEverHappens Hammer.
>>98730654no
>>98730654You can make the head into a cog which is thematic.
>>98730654You see any trees on mars? No? Because they cut them all down, it's a symbol of man conquering nature.
>>98730388>i wonder if it's that antenna looking piece>check>it is
>>98730656>Corvus shows up just as Vashtorr is ascendant or whatever>Fights happen, nobody dies, nothing happens>Onto the next warzone with all the same characters and armies
When humans ride a horse for a long time they get bow legged because of the position their body spends a lot of time in. Does something similar happen to marines who spend a lot of time in Terminator armor? Using saturnine but the problem exists for all terminator armor. Having to pose like this all the time must mess with your bones or something.
>>98730679I just know that particular piece by heart because it was used for all the guns on x-wings and shit like that when I was a kidI figured "if Lego used it for laser guns, surely anon can as well"I had to look up the specific part number though
>>98730678I sense one or two problems with that claim.>>98730667Yea, feels kind of weak to me.
>>98730432>grand theft afte>The Zangs of Time>Plants vs Zowries>>>>Counter Stake
>>98730697I guess that's just how they shook out, you can give yours whatever weapons you'd like, the cog headed axe is a badge of office for them.
>>98730586There's also massive arena creatures their beast masters dominate and tame the same way as ExoditesAnd the Castigator Wraithknights that Vect has in his private army
>>98730577Everything about the primarchs was originally written as quick throwaway backstory in a time when sherlock obi wan was considered main stage material.
>>98730688Probably, but I'm pretty sure marines never take the armour off so I can't imagine it comes up often.
>>98730713>I'm pretty sure marines never take the armour offfucking tertiaries
>>98730656>Nothing happens in the narrative>People complain>The narrative advances>People complain>The narrative remains where it is but is expanded upon>People complain
>>98730683>vashtorrNoHe will fight pertuabo for some reason instead
>>98730730This jesus christ people just fucking whine about everythingNothing of significance has happened in fucking forever its just been an infinite loop of inconsequential saturday morning cartoon shitIm not saying I 100% love every aspect of the direction they chose but fuck at least something is happening in the major overarching “epic” plot of it all
>>98730746Oh yeah I think you're right, forgot about Peter Turbo.>>98730730It's because they don't do a good job with it.
>>98730730I feel like people kind of want conclusive battle reports. Like that map of the galaxy should show contested and zones of control and claimed space and random zones of unknown, minor empires or human renegades unaffiliated with chaos etc. and you can change it up each year as the wars "progress".>>98730656Also raven guard would just be>all the generic SM units>3 named charactersAnd that's it, nothing special like dark fury or moritats in 30k, or raven monsters, or some kind of emo guy that cuts himself and it makes chaos not want to fight because it's gross.
>>98730705Feels like they could release a kill team set that's an arena with a beastmaster and his beasts vs. some catachan guys that got taken captive into the arena.
>>98730747WellPariah nexus was a thing in 2020Did that ever become anything at all?
>>98730440*HONK**SHOO**MIMIMI*
>>98730730>narrative advances Remember the galaxy being torn in half?Characters can just appear anywhere because the writers do not give a shit. Yeah, so anyways. Nothing ever happens.
>>98730705>edgy versions of normal elfdar's stuff
>>98730730>Nothing happens in the narrative (so everything is stuck with the past shitty writers writing the narrative)>People complain>The narrative advances (written by shitty writers)>People complain>The narrative remains where it is but is expanded upon (with the help of shitty writers)>People complainsuch a mystery how this happens.
>>98730761>Did that ever become anything at all?A new warzone for you to have your games in
>>98730752Do the RG even have 3 named characters? Only ones I know of in 40k are Shrike and their new chapter master.
>>98730788They had a chapter master that was killed in the damocles crusade campaign book.
>>98730752>>all the generic SM unitsthe whole phobos line is a stealth expansion meant for the raven guard and their successors first and foremost
>>98730654Are Pizza Cutters better?
anyone have any videos to recommend for basing materials and weathering powders?
>>98730797>raven guard get a pseudo range>it looks like complete dogshit>it doesn’t have any raven guard bitsgrim. even if it didn’t look bad, it would still be the worst of both worlds.
>>98730793I fucking forgot about that guy despite how funny his death was.
>>98730805I like the tazers some models have. Axes is fine, just a little divorced from what I imagine robo cultists would fixate one.
>>98730812the gun crow is a very fun and cute ideait's a shame about literally everything else on that model
>>98730812Fucking warcry model. Every time I see this I wonder why the fuck they bothered. They made a blatant Mary Sue out for thin air for no reason.
>>98730797It was meant to expand the marines range for all chapters so they could sell more plastic kits hth
>>98730873but first and foremost to cater to the aesthetics and themes of the raven guard and successors
my airbrush is FUCKING dead. i refuse to prime and basecoat without it so i guess i can only paint again once i get a new one. damn i gotta take better care of the next one
>>98730812This is cool lol what the fuck are people whining about?
>>98730788>>98730793If they got corvus it would beCorvusShrikeAethonThat's three
>>98730881Do you realise how dumb that sounds? You think they made a whole range of plastic kits over a few years primarily to sell to players of one of the least popular chapters, and didn't even put any iconography on them to actually make that chapter look interesting, or promote the idea at all? Fucking retards itt as always.
>>98730868>>98730883>whyBecause he replaced Kayvaan shrike as chapter master for no reason
>>98730882How the fuck can an airbrush die? just clean it.
>>98730905i did man. i cleaned it very thoroughly but its still clogging the same way as prior to the clean. i dunno what to do other than get a new one
>>98730901>no reasonExactly. At least if he gets cheaper after his needs he would be perfect fodder for farming secondaries. I'd make my own though because his model does not look like a first party model.
So when was the last time they released a space marine that wasn't an obvious downgrade?
>>98730947i dont know man im playing admech
>>98730881>>98730899RG specifically have the little raven skull on their chests and GW has made the boneheaded move of refusing to sell bodies in the upgrade packs, so you get Super Special Space Wolves or -other chapter that isn't blood angels lol- with their upgraded guys and then RG has a thing but sucks.And with all the big heckin legion chapters you can come up with at least 1-2 unique units/datasheets like even ultramarines had Tyrannic War vets and currently have victrix honour guard (which can also be used to make unique chapter ancients, captains etc.).Calling phobos an update is dumb, at the bare minimum RG in HH should have the raven monsters and shit. I like it when 30k factions are differentiated from 40k. But GW only acknowledges squats (somewhat) but not other Xenos. Huge missed opportunity to throw in some Rangdan models.
>>98730947Space Wolves and Dark Angels refreshesBlood Angels refresh, on the other hand...
>>98730394LGS owners are getting sample packs of the new paints and they do indeed seem to be that good
>>98730947Is picking terminator Calgar cheating
>>98730951The old ones had infinitely more presence and personality
>>98730958No just bad taste
>>98728704>The Taunar is neat but also completely antiethical to Tau warfare which shuns both static units and unguided artillery.I can forgive that given it's also canonically a fabulously rare prototype from that one batshit crazy engineer embezzling resources from the stealth suit project he's supposed to be working on to make increasingly enormous battlesuits because it's his fetish or something.
>>98730951>Da refresh>upgradeShut the fuck upt. Da player
>>98730983The terminator calgar replaced gravis calgar, not old terminator calgar.
>>98728741Tau mechs should be nightmare frames
>>98730947Everything is a downgrade to you guys.
>>98730947Nu-Cato is as good as the original IMO.
>>98730974>comically oversized censer-maces even by warhammer standards>only the nob holds his by the right spot for his pose>tabards make their torsos seem even more oversized than normal terminators and their thighs even tinierat least there's no shitty sculpted smoke effects...
>>98730998>how could we make tau even more boring?
>>98731007And they still look so much better than the nu-knights despite that
>>98731016Are you planning on explaining why you think the new ones look worse or are you just gonna keep spamming GW webstore pics to transparently bump the thread to image limit?
>havnt even finish my first army yet>want to buy ork now for some reasonwhats going on?
>>98731031You got dopamine from buying the first army and now you want the next highIt's the basis of the consoom mindset. "Buy thing to feel happy, then buy next thing once the happy wears off."
>>98731031what’s your first army? either way, orks is best, so its only natural you’ll want to buy some.
>>98731004Mogged by the even older Cato Sicarius, I'm afraid
>>98731031Might as well buy a cheap armageddon half while you can it's the cheapest you're going to get in this gay game
>>98731040csm
Thoughts on the following series?>Word Bearers by Anthony Reynolds>Forge of Mars by Graham McNeill>Iron Warrios by Graham McNeill>Iron Hands by Jonathan GreenAny of these worth reading?
>>98731030I literally just told you. They all have more presence and personality. The units look way more like the chapter they represent and each model in the unit looks more unique compared to the others in it. They're elites wearing revered relics passed down through generation, each suit is meant to be unique and personalized, no mass produced slop. The older omes represent that much better
Tried going with the advice I recived last time I posted. I made the gun bronze/steel to break up the colors and added color to the eyesI tried doing all the edge highlighting with the side of the brush but some areas were kind of impossible to get toAnyways I spent forever painting this lil dude
>>98731066If you get some bone white you can make some of the skulls/face or teeth like bone colored that might help break up some colors some moreLooks cool anon
i figured it out guys frthe reason primaris plate is yucky is because it is generally canted towards further armoring of the marine than suits of antiquity and this actually diminishes his dignity as for ten thousand years such things were entirely unnecessary in the grander equation of upholding the imperiumspace marines being the grand warders of the corpse in its decay, their light diminishing in increments alongside forever and everwe have gone so very wrong god damn you gw
>>98731044hmmm, csm and orks have a lot of overlap when it comes to being destructive retards. do you feel like you’re missing something from csm that you might get from orks? maybe you could pick a chaos box that’s “ork-coded” to see.
>>98731049I say only read about the factions that you enjoy and check reviews to see if they are internally consistent with the lore. There’s a reason why people hate the Dawn of Books
>>98731041gw hates powerclaws, somehow powerclaws are just a raven guard thing now
>>98730861>cute
>>98731049No.
>>98730899>primarily to sell to players of one of the least popular chaptersno primarily to sell to players who want the aesthetic and themes of one of the least popular chapters, and making the stuff available to everyone because this shit is unpopular to begin with
>>98731089Lightning claws were always marvel cringe.
>>98731108>
The joke is lesbos
>>98731108You fake grogs have really crossed the line with this oneLightning claws have always been cool
>>98731116exactly, they were always dogshit, it's no wonder their main wielders were space wolves
my head hurts again again again again again
>>98731072Great idea i'll color in the skulls white for now on
>>98731108Wrong
>>98731118but why is she a beastman in one pic
>>98730987Kill yourself whiny crybaby
>>98731129Stop breathing in the paint, retard
>>98731004>no helmeted option>no plasma pistol optionLol, lmao>>98731159Ladies first
Bread is stale someone baking soon?
>>98731066It looks so much better already anon. Good job
>>98731220I’m making low quality slop. I think it’s better than Primaris so there’s that at least
>>98731220Post 4 cool pics and I'll consider it
Why hasn't GW split this into two kits yet? I don't fucking want the venomcrawler
>>98731239probably pour on same mould so at that point might as well keep them till next refresh
>>98731239They share a sprue.
>>98731260They didn't have the foresight to make an alternate multi-part kit for obliterators like they do for every other kit? Fucking stupid
>>98731239We literally had this conversation yesterday; I can't imagine that Obliterators are so popular that there's a different anon asking the exact same question two days in a row.There are parts for both parts of the kit on the same sprue, you can see that on GW's website listing for them. They CANNOT split them without investing in an entire new sprue and mould, which won't happen until CSM get a refresh.>>98731272You replied in this exact same way yesterday tooIs this a bot?
>>98731262The white monster = old man meme triggers me and rustles my jimmies.You guys know that the Gen Alphas are drinking white monsters too, right?Also I think it would be funnier if dantw was drinking a Capri-Sun
>>98731278I'm the same person but I didn't get to finish the conversation before I went to work and multiple threads came and went by the time I got off work.
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>>98731286I don't think its a commentary on age, I think it just supposed to be a white monster meme
Was the Emperor Yakub in the ancient past?
>>98731297No, Yakub was one of the sigilites.
>>98731293There's no reason you couldn't have back-read the threads you missed, or at least to check if your original ask had been answered (it had, by two different people).
>>98730781>what are chaos space marines>one of the most requested new factions being edgy admechHmmmm
>>98731016>>98730974Can you get these in metal? These would be SOVLful in metal.
I really miss 40k and my old raven guard army how do I get back into it
