Lightning round/I WILL keep using this image editionPrevious Thread: >>98706697Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/h8Tz2ze8Somewhat dusty survey results: https://pastebin.com/scAkFdTvQuickfire TQs:>Have you ever thrown away a game and why?>What's the best game you never play?>What game you want to like more than you actually do>What game do you think you are sick of but end up enjoying everytime?Bonus regular question>How do you decide what to play next? Is there a ritual, individual or collective decision? Is it impulsive or agrerd on ahead of time?
hey /bgg/ my birthday is coming up and i don't know what to get. Any notable board games from 2025-2026 i could ask for? Or should i say fuck it and buy a gunpla.
>>98742222>Or should i say fuck it and buy a gunpla.Quads are for RGs.
So /bgg/, how do you get people to play with? Im in a little rural town, so no boardgame cafes and all the people i made the effort to interact with, think that boardgames are the most boring thing ever.So, how did you do it?
>>98742242Play on TTS with anons or on BGA with randos.
>>98742222What player counts normally work for you, what are games you have enjoyed in the past, and what did you like about them?>>98742242Seconding >>98742258.>>98742258Anons are a subset of randos.
>>98742278I consider anons a bit higher than just randoms because fuck if I remember a single BGA username but I'll remember most anon's names when I meet them on a TTS lobby.
>>98742222Do reprints count?
>>98742278we usually always play a 4 pod of magic, Some of our favorite board games include clank catacombs,Secret Hitler,RootI have arcs and twilight imperium but desu even though we play magic my group doesn't seem to found on heavy games. We might like a new deck builder?>>98742369sure!
>>98742479Get Kemet mf'er
>>98742242By not living in a rural area? Try posting on facebook and host at either your place or a community center. You can ask to put up posters. Don't get discouraged if no one shows up at first, it will happen eventually. You should bring 4-5 board games for people and encourage people to bring their own and they can break off into their own groups if they want.
>>98742812new or old?
>>98742838blood and sand
https://youtu.be/VrRDdAwtNzA?t=48
>>98742479Kemet B&S, Inis, Hegemony, Las Vegas, Assault on Doomrock, Burning Banners, Space Empires 4X, March of the Ants, Ra, Toy Battle, Compile and if you haven't gotten it yet the Homeland expansion for Root is great. I would also keep an eye on upcoming releases like Tigris and Euphrates which you should definitely get, the new Dune edition, the new Dominant Species edition and maybe that Forbidden Stars remake.
>>98742242>Im in a little rural town, so no boardgame cafesSounds like a good opportunity to consider an investment with the lack of competition, and open a board game cafe (Or just a small coffee shop with board games in it as a start)>all the people i made the effort to interact with, think that boardgames are the most boring thing ever.Probably because the ones you interact with only know board games that are Monopoly, Chess, Uno or Catan. You could try to introduce them to light but great games such as Fliptoons, Castle Combo or Scout. And ask for a bit of their time for a small game session and you might start from there to create a gaming group.
>>98742222Hard to say without knowing what kind of genres you are into. But basing off what I strongly recommend from my tastes: Bruxelles 1897, Critter Kitchen or Splendor (Pokemon Edition because it's easily one of the good looking versions out there)
>>98742242>how did you do it?By roping in my brother and all my friends from school. Last year I brought Challengers to an office party and everyone liked it. But I'm assuming "little rural town" also means "I don't work in an office where out of 50+ people I could find some like minded degenerates".You're probably gonna have to go with other anons' suggestions.
Fuck splotter
>>98743518Like in the ass?
How do I coax people into playing Obsession.
>>98742131>>Have you ever thrown away a game and why?Never. I've sold a ton of them, though. Probably should start throwing them out instead of wasting my time for a few euros.>>What's the best game you never play?HIS and la famiglia are strong contenders>>What game you want to like more than you actually doFor the longest time it was deal with the devil. I do like Oath, conceptually. But I fucking hate it. IFelt like a cooperative storytelling game more than a mechanically sound competitive one.>>What game do you think you are sick of but end up enjoying everytime?I keep thinking I've played too much Ra to really enjoy it only to be reminded how utterly brilliant it is almost everytime.
>>98743688Well, practice your coaxing skills here on people like me.I have never played the game. I have only seen the box here and there. I have a feeling it is some sort of an eurogame, maybe.Persuade me. Why whould i play it? I am genuinely curious
>>98743816It's an eurogame. And like most eurogame it's all about the theming.> Persuade me. Why whould i play it? I am genuinely curiousThen I would have to sell you the entire genre of regency romance. Which is difficult. Heck, I don't know why a straight male like myself find a female-oriented genre so fascinating. To put it simply, regency romance is like a grimdark version of romance where girls (from rich families) have to compete and scheme against each other to be married before 25.
Shoud I buy Ra or Modern Art?
Got some suggestions for good kid games that won't bore adults?
>>98744066If it has to be between those two, Ra.I prefer Medici over both of them.
>>98744070Uhhhh....... Eclipse?
>>98744070that's rough also "kids" varies widely>horrified (co-op)>peaceable kingdom (younger co-op)>my first stone age>my first carcassone>labyrinth*>orchard (haba)>sleeping queens>king of tokyo**modified rules:* everyone gets a treasure card to pursue, when you reach your treasure you get another, most treasures at the end wins** no read/no cards: lightning gets you a green cube, three green cubs buys you a green die to roll that turn
>>98744070My Little Scythe
>>98744066
>>98744070Depends, how old are they?
>>98744066If I had to decide at gunpoint, Ra. Because Ra is the most universal game I know, everyone likes Ra. Modern art is hilarious but filters out a few people.
>pastbin toplist>Root deadlast>Dune imperium 3rd place>Ra second place>Classic Dune 6th place with Twillight imperium and fucking HiveI don't want to offend anyone here but this is sad.
>>98745532Don't you worry. Come next January, it will be reassessed and get even worse!
>>98745532I'm sorry to tell you this but Dune Imperium and Spirit Island are actually very good games.
>>98745532Root is not a good game, it's good at masquerading as a good gameRa is a good gameDune Imperium is alright, i also dont understand how it got 3rd place in the rankingif you have more constructive objections or just actual opinions beyond namecalling, feel free to say what you wanna say.
>>98745532Yes indeedI see it as a reminder how many lurkers here have very conventional tastes
>>98745532Agree that it's sad, but Root getting gaped is not the reason. Unfortunately, Wehrlefaggots probably just replaced it with Arcs, which is an even worse game.>>98745595>Dune ImperiumGetting rated over Dune on any scale, including as a deckbuilder, is a travesty.
You now remember that you have never played Strozzi.
>>98746072>Knizia knobgobbler appears
>>98746102Name a game that isn't by Knizia. I'll wait.
>>98746148
>>98746393>inb4 unhinged michael barnes rant on how princes of florence signaled the downfall of the euro.
>>98746148Weak bait tbqh>Spirit Island>King Arthur>Empire of the Sun>Jackie Chan>Just oneWait, goddamn
I need some /bgg/ advice. I've been looking into indonesia time and again, and I always end up hesitating to buy it for a few reasons. I'd be thankful if someone could do away with them or tell me I'm a fag and the game isn't for me>Mergers which likely make the game into what it is seem fun but at the same time utterly dreadful if someone tries to math it out>Last round double income feels like a meme rule>Shipping seems extraordinarily fiddly>Map is too small to actually hold the necessary cubesI know I should just try it, but dutch judaism erected a somewhat high barrier
>>98745929>>98745613Root is not a bad game
>>98746722Ive played both in person and online.It is a gem for my gang. Weve spent five hours on the first game and yet the hours flew by.Ive seen the nastiest mergers made just to preempt someone elses telegraphed metger attempt and ruin it.Rampant advances to cut off an expansion. Shipping monopolies that bleed the entire table. Players declaring a merge of their own two companies, believing no one else can make a move, only to have miscalculated and given it away. Glorious Siap saj takeout box creations that both dismantle a players rice holds while also emptying parts of the map just as rubber and oil comes into play.The token placement on cities are the one annoyance we had.Shipping is straightforward, but as ships start sharing spaces it can lead to recalculations, which either you allow in your group or hold the players accountable to: place a coin, commit to the shipping company.Our games have also been wildly different. As players learn what to prioritize and build up on the tech tracks, we've had crazy games where early mergers decimated the landscape, or no mergers for an entire Era but bidding track wars to ensure when mergers are unlocked, you have the advantage in declaring first.It is the only game Ive ever seen make a player rage quit. From fucking over his bidding (he really didnt need to go first) and being just shy on shipping payments to make his one planned sale of the round. I get how after spending a few turns working towards it you get disappointed by the system not plating fair, but in my mind thats exactly how you learn splotters best, by careening over the handrails that were never really there for your protection.He left in a huff. We shrugged shoulders and kept playing without him.Fuck you anon now I am craving Indonesia.
>>98746557He was right though.
>>98746886Quick run down?
>>98742258>>98742278I used to play a lot on TTS, however, my PC is too old to handle it anymore, and im trying to reduce any screen time as much as posible, and to be honest, its not the same as being on the table with other people. BGA is nice, too bad some games aren't there.>>98742823>By not living in a rural area?Genius, how I didn't think of that?!>Try posting on facebookYeah, maybe that would work, I cannot host at my place or the comunity center but maybe I could go to the gas station since it has a nice bar in.>>98743398>Sounds like a good opportunity to consider an investment with the lack of competitionYou are welcome to invest in here.>Probably because the ones you interact with only know board games that are Monopoly.Maybe, most people know Monopoly, Uno and Risk. Chess is kinda liked in here, maybe I could ask anyone from those Chess clubs.>>98743426> I'm assuming "little rural town" also means "I don't work in an office where out of 50+ people I could find some like minded degenerates".True, it's a small town so I had to take it or leave it. Or travel 3 hours just to play to like minded degenerates.
>>98745532How should the top list look like then anon?
>>98746148Le Havre
A bit late since you been talking about deck builders 2 threads ago, but what yall think of Robot Quest Arena? Should I get it as a first deck builder or just buy Dominion/Star Realms?
>>98743398Different guy but I would only consider opening up a game store in my podunk town if I won the lottery first and didn't have to worry about earning enough to keep the lights on.
Has anyone played this? I'm sorta interested in getting a copy.
>>98747217Very dry, recommend trying before buying. Comes with diecast metal ships though.
>>98743398>>98747151I know a guy who runs a boardgame cafe in a big city (with a large library). He said that Magic sales are what keeps him afloat.
>>98747132I have only played it 3 times but I enjoyed every play. Two major gripes though. Some cards are much better than others. You are at the mercy of the market. The game just ends out of nowhere. Some players get screwed by the more than others. Even if you see the game will end soon, there is too much variance in how soon to plan around it.
>>98743276Wait is Labyrinth considered a good game? It's trash I play with my kids on the same tier as Chupacabra and we added a die to create a number of steps because otherwise it's so fucking boring. They're talking about it like it's a classic and loved by all. wtf
>>98747132>Dominion/Star Realmsdid you read the discussion? neither. I won't talk about Dominion as the shills will all get their backs up again, but Star Realms is one of those deckbuilders where the market wags the dog. Nothing you do in strategy means anything in the face of what cards come out on your turn. It's catanesque in that you feel like a god or get cheated but if you play the same scenario over and over you'll quickly see the market decides the game not the players.arctic scavengersheart of crowndale of merchantsvalley of the kingsbarbarossaeven the quest for el dorado which is a race game is a better deck builder.*clank! is fun but it's like star realms, the market rng dominates so there isn't much strategy, the 3 boot card is definitely what you're buying for example. clank! catacombs makes the market rng not as significant by adding assloads of rng everywhere else so it's just a clusterfuck. both are still better than dom/sr.
Where can I get a set of decent generic metal coins in lower denominations? 1 5 10 25 50 100 etc.
>>98747074You could ask cafes or restaurants as well to host, if it's a small town they'd probably be happy to have some extra business. Some cafes in the big town where I live host weekly and the requirement is that you buy a drink or something which is nice to have with a board game anyways
>>98747891Aliexpress, temu, or ebay
>>98742131I have the sudden desire to play Battlelore second edition.
>>98747891metal are bad they're heavy and awkward. get poker chips or have a 3dprintbro make you coins
I will be honest, Slay the Spire maybe a very good deck builder, but the thought of setting up and spending 2 hours to play one act then tally up all the achievements and such is really unappealing to me. I can play like 4 full runs of the computer game in that time.
>>98747481Based barbarossa enjoyer
>>98747891I go to the bankYou can get 100 pennies or 20 nickles for a dollarMaybe wait for black Friday and see if they offer any deals
Played Forest Shuffle for the first time and nearly felt like getting an aneurysm when holding 8 cards in my hand, before getting a card holder from another game. There's just too much shit on some cards and no way of holding them that doesn't obscure half the information.
>>98746969The quick rundown is that boomer is distressed by euros moving out of the light family slop era. >i want simple actions and immediate interaction with other playersGood news for me is that I much more enjoy a long, complex, more deterministic game than games you can play with a toddler.Good news for him (and others like him itt) is that light family slop never went away.
i'm gonna splurge so hard, i'm getting this >>98747132 and this >>98747217 and the first knizia's game mentioned by a post that gets digits, and another copy of toy battle, and tag team and root and backing a kickstarter and ask an AI to recommend me a game and buy catan, return it and buy again and alssjdnfmdnkssjdmwkoq
>>98749198Maybe you should just continue not buying games.
>>98749198Kinda jarring to see your austerity seems to have been pretty meaninglessThen again, I probably wouldn't have made it that far. I am having a hard time saying no to secondary market bargains
>>98749198This is satire right?
>>98749198T&E
I could never go a year with buying a board game. It would be even harder to not buy expansions. I used to go one game out one buy, but then it turned into one out two buy kek
>>98747481>BarbarossaBetter than Dominion, that's for sure. Tanto Cureo is better than Dominion and it's damn near a clone. Draconis Invasion is one of the best fixed market deck builders, but nobody played it
>>98748290>You can get 100 penniesnot no more unc
>>98749233He doesn't wear a trip so it could be someone mocking him.
>>98749325>Draconis Invasion is one of the best fixed market deck builders, but nobody played itnice, what makes it bester?
>>98749618>t. purchaseless year challenge anonI don't think anyone cares enough for that tbqh
>>98715372Well, how's the gook Modern Art?
>Dad I'm gayIt's okay son I love you for who you are>Dad I'm a fan of splotter gamesI have no son
>>98749865I'm thinking of getting it for the easel, improved gavel, and recognizable paintingsThen again, I could get another ammo box to store more copies of barbarossa and el alamein
>>98750064How could one dislike Splotter games. So we'll designed and full of replayability.
>>98750064all this hate for splotter and you still havent answered "why?"methinks you're a fake hater
>>98750076Some people can't resist games with pounds of plasticslopThe idea of paying a fair amount for a good design offends their sensibilities
>>98750169As opposed to pounds of cheap cardboard chits and some beads?
>>98750186>i did not read anons full postCmon man, apply yourself the slightest bit.
>>98750166Certainly a shit disturber.I can think of valid reasons to dislike the publisher, the designers, and their games.Smarter and more articulate anons have done so over the years.This is a weakass fake performance all around.
>>98750166Absolutely jewish business practice aside, the issue with splotter games is that they're janky and awkward. They all feel like games stuck at the prototype phase, the idea is there but nobody bothered to iron it out. Antiquity, FCM, R&B, and HC are sweaty, fiddly, bloated nightmare games with fixed openings, zero comebacks, Bus is a pointless fight for the starting player spot. It is the highlight mechanic of all splotter projects - turn order selection aka player-driven balance aka bucket of crabs. Splotter fans glaze the level of interaction but the core systems are uninteresting, everything is about spite, kingmaking, and leaderbashing. Splotter games have no spark that causes cool emergent stuff to happen on the board (like Eklund or Knizia stuff), they're pedestrian accounting exercises.
>>98750186I rest my case
>>98750169Bro I like cardboard and wood as much as the next guy but Splotter's production for most of their games is cheap as shit and they charge 40-60% above most publishers for less quality. If you're going to say "but the gameplay is what you're paying for" you can also get better games that are also cheaper and nicer.
>>98750250>fcmi'll give you fixed openings, the game really starts on round 2. but from that point on the options open like a flower. also "no comeback" is downright wrong, see also my last game.>HCfiddly sure, but it's not a prototype, nor is it bloated. it's a finished, sleek design. no matter what you remove you end up impacting the rest of the game. that's how tightly intervowen the mechanics are. never played Antiquity or R&B so can't say much about those, but its funny you said nothing about The Great Zimbabwe. even fake haters can respect the GOAT i guess>turn order selection = players balance themselves = bucket of crabsyou did not play any splotters if you think this is true. plus this "crab bucket" st0atement contradicts with "no comebacks" you said earlier in that very post.thanks for confirming that you are, indeed, a fake hater.
>>98750320>never played Antiquity or R&BI played both. Antiquity is kind of eh for me. Good game, but didn't grab me.R&B is fucking great though. You can either play it as a simple version of Factorio or something and it has that great feel of making something with your own planning and without going 10 orders of magnitude in complexity. Or if you're a man, you play it as a PvP game and watch all hell break loose.Both games are fiddly though, especially R&B. But fiddly doesn't mean bloated.>no comebackThis means consequences for your actions. The less a game has this, the more likely it is some kind of self-playing waste of time.Play another match and do better.
>>98748185I've got all the content for it. What am I in for?
Are you backing the sequel to Forbidden Stars, anons?
>>98750166Not that anon but I find the two splotters I've played all did the same thing I kinda hate; by their nature as rather unforgiving open infomation games you are heavily incentivised to constantly count and recount certain things. Distance in TGZ, distance, potential bids in Indonesia, god forbid you start thinking about lategame merger bids. I think it's at odds with the low rules overhead and playerdriven economy which are all rather elegant. Kind of a weird spot where the game rewards going into the AP tank whilst kinda wanting you to play by ear to keep up the flow. Idk, maybe it's different in person, it did work far better asynch than live imo. But from what I've read these two games play out wildly differently from group to group, maybe I should try it with a different one.So what's your take splotterfags>does your group largely vibe decisions or go into the tank?I'll assume the latter, but it'd still be interesting to hear.
>>98750443I own the original and and I ask myself every day why I don't get rid of it, I genuinely don't think it's a good game. The order system is amazing and I wish for a better game that isn't Pericles to copy it, but the battles are extremely convoluted, long and not really statisfying. Playing it 4p is downtime torture and 2p is fundamentally broken.So no, I'm not looking forward to the same thing plus cthuluslop
>>98742131>Have you ever thrown away a game and why?Some 90s era familyslop my parents bought when we were kids, absolutely no redeeming qualities>What's the best game you never play?Probably GoA II, everyone but me hated it>What game you want to like more than you actually doSpooktacular. I wanted it to be a grail game so bad, it seemed perfect. Sub 1h, light on rules, huge variety, quick turns but with a lot of depth. What it is is exactly the kind of inconsequential filler I've grown tired of, even if it is extremely well done and presented.>>What game do you think you are sick of but end up enjoying everytime?Civolution. I always think eh I've gotten enough plays of it in only to go fuck why I am not suggesting this more often within 30 minutes of play
>>98750406>This means consequences for your actions.and Splotters have that in spades. Limited recruitment and training slots in FCM making every employee a reminder of your mistakes, limited factory floor space and research points in HC, taking a god or craftsman card in TGZ. i could go on but really most actions you do in a Splotter have lasting impact for you and other players. and comebacks are very much possible, even if you fuck your own position up you can fuck up everyone else's positions harder, yes it's more difficult to catch up, but it is possible.also stop reminding me to play R&B i already have too many heavy games i want to play again i can't just pick up a new one>>98750465I mostly play by ear, but that also includes keeping track of the old numbers so i don't need to recount until it's time to execute. its also how i play 18XX games too, sure sometimes math is important, like keeping $402 after the IPA in 1830, or dividing my current cash by 6 in a calculator to see how high i can par a new company to inject money into my businesses, or looking at the train roster and company turn order to see if i need to withold so my companies dont end up trainless, etc., but after a while you internalize these simple numbers and distances and it becomes second nature and you can do that while others are taking their turn.
>>98750435Fantasy Command and Color basically.A light weight, easy to understand, hex based board game. Initial fog of war so nobody knows where the other person's units are on setup. Low cost armies so variety is there but doesn't bog shit down. Variable objectives and board states on each side. Plays fast too. First game might take 90 minutes to 2 hours as both players are learning. Future games usually clear in under an hour.
>>98750465>does your group largely vibe decisions or go into the tank?We used to be a lot worse about AP, but I think years of playing heavy stuff allowed us to relax a bit over time. Unless it gets to a place where it's really tight margins to victory, we generally don't sweat it too much. Plus we give everyone a chance to fix things if they fucked up or forgot something obvious. Haven't thought about it that way but it probably helps people be more laid back and the game flowing.I'm probably the worst in the group, and I'm not that bad. Maybe like one>wait i'm countinga game instead of every turn.
>>98750597>>98750804Interesting. I suppose there is a threshold of games of, say, tgz played until you can use heuristics or roughly estimate things at a glance. I struggle to find examples of this in games I play often, I tend to get annoyed by it. Similar to icon counting in >2p innovation, I feel it sometimes gets in the way of the game/gameflow
>>98750309 Could you tell me what these better games are?
>>98750484 I'm thinking about backing this, but I never played the original at two players. How is it broken?
>>98751050Don't engage with wingspanbros
>>98751098I've played like 4 or 5 games of it. There's an uneven number of planets, and whoever won in the initial fight for the odd system had resource advantage and snowballed the other one into oblivion. This process was the same everytime, with all factions and different approaches. Other anons have reported different results, I personally can't see how but that's me. As an aside, FS also had a terrible rulebook with important rules arbitrarily distributed over the learn to play book and the rules reference, really glad this shit didn't become industry standard. Admittedly it's been a bunch of years since I've played it, but I was massively into 40k back then and found the game disappointing at every playercount, 3p being the most tolerable. It's obvious but I'll still say that the art especially on the map is brilliant. Minis are ok but to this day I find it extremely faggy they (because of some special licenece thingy I believe) didn't have the iconic ground troops but small flag and big flag as scout and space marine.
>>98751445>4-5 games (at 2 players)I should have specified
>>98750406Where is the factorio board game?
I vomited in my mouth a little.
Thinking of picking up For Glory or my Crimson Company for my next two player game. Which would you guys prefer to play?
>>98751524Why would you want one? Factorio needs to be a videogame
>>98751866Genuinely interesting but I have no idea why the pax name gets used so often nowadays. In this case it's especially weitd.
>>98751524It's called Roads&Boats
I love board games, bros...Euros, ameritrash, slop, worker placement, playing cards, drawing from bags, dueling, battling, area controllingIt's so good, we're so lucky
>>98752677It's a golden age where everyone can find something they like. And for us omnivores, a bountiful feast.
>>98752677Yeah, never understood the appeal of worker placement games and Euros though. Worker placement is usually just a way to space out resource generation to actually play the game. It's a mechanic that holds the game hostage instead of letting it be played. If the game IS resource generation and trying to maximize resource generation to achieve a certain point threshold? Yeah, that's valid. Not my cup of tea, but at least the main point of the game isn't being locked away because you don't have a meeple on a space for 20 fucking turns or some other dumb shit amount of time so you can actually play the thing you want to interact with. It's part of the beef in I have with MtG too, but me and the boys play with a house rule that completely solved the mana problem, so the game is a lot more enjoyable now.
>>98752934What's the mana fix? So many games are just "magic but better mana systems!"
>>98751050You can get 2-3 Hansas for the price of one Splotter.
>>98753491If you pick their only game with many reprints (fcm) the price is pretty the same as ark nova. Obviously if you're going to pick an out of print game and compare it to a 30 years old classic that got reprinted many times this one is going to be cheaperFcm components are also fine, you get many wooden tokens and the cardboard is quite thick, the box is pretty heavy
>>98751524Curious Cargo is about as spaghetti as mu usual Factorio bases
>>98749139Name 5 good light family slop games from 2026.
TIL Pinatas is just Voodoo Prince
>>98755025I only own one game from 2026, and its weight is 3.8/5
>>98755390https://boardgamegeek.com/geeksearch.php?action=search&advsearch=1&objecttype=boardgame&range[yearpublished][min]=2026&range[yearpublished][max]=2026&range[numvoters][min]=&floatrange[avgweight][min]=3.74&floatrange[avgweight][max]=3.86&B1=SubmitStellaris?
>>98744509Thanks for the suggestions, King of Tokyo seems fun.
>>98752934The appeal of euros is a sense of building some kind of engine that increases in efficiency. In american style games, classic games, abstracts etc typically you have a set amount of things you can do per turn and the goal is to use that limited capability to win the game. It's a necessary concession to interactive gameplay, if I could move 5 different pieces in a single turn in chess the game would collapse. Eurogames however feature low levels of interaction, allowing the players to spend large portion of the game optimizing their engine until it starts shitting absurd amounts of resources and VP. Your first turn of Agricola is "get 2 wood lmao" while the last one builds a massive fence using 10 wood while setting up for breeding and triggering several occupations, minor improvements synergies, and getting in some bakes for the feeding phase. MTG is an interesting case cause in a way it cheated the system by combining wargamey mutual obliteration gameplay, but also giving the players a solitaire-style tinkering fun through deck construction. So MTG is like playing the last turn of a eurogame except the gloves are off and you can go and burn your opponents farm.
>>98755612That's pretty interesting. Most euros I have to have this element pretty strongly.>Hansa Testosteronica>Power Grid>Tzolk'in>FCMNot sure where a lot of other games fall on the euro/not-euro scale, but more of my games feature a significant ramping element than not.I'm wondering if this applies to "modern" euros moreso than old school ones. Maybe the oft-lamented move away from classic euros into dull, brown, MPS games is in part due to designers latching on to the "number go up" part of the brain, and the monkeys (including me) loving it.
now that i got the basics of heat down, what do it add to the game, that is still inside the regular board game box?
>>98755651I wouldn't call FCM a eurogame. It's a doam game except the dudes are invisible and area dominance is achieved not by majority but by fulfilling specific conditions
>>98755706See, this is what I mean. One of these days we need to define what a euro is and assign each game to a category so I don't embarass myself.
>>98755690Do what you should've done immediately and and play tourneys with the full rules.Or, if you have no time for it, single race with everything except the sponsorship cards/press corners.
>€111,85 (incl. 21% VAT) Damn those swamp jews are pretty bold, do you guys think it's going to be worth the price?
>>98755981Splooper fans have been conditioned for 30 years to consoom without asking questions, why start now
>>98755714but all euro are area control son
>>98755025daydreamcattywampusperenialsanibelarribadafrosted bloomsfinger food frenzylost in the woodsLOTR trick takingand[drumroll intensifies]POCKET WINGSPAN!
Name the game.
20 games of Barrage on BGA deep. This game is so peak bros. So many strategic options.
>>98756605>So many strategic optionsLike buying the elevation tech tile or losing from not buying the elevation tech tile. Or perhaps losing because you attempted to produce energy in round 3 or earlier instead of just building for the bonus.
>>98756771Wouldn't claim to be an expert obviously, but elevation tile doesn't seem that strong. Sure, it feels good to spin the wheel 3-4 times, but buying advanced tile means losing an opportunity to get into upper spot of the basic, which means you are probably gonna get a shitty dam in some cuck corner. And wouldn't you produce energy early especially if there are cheap ass contracts available that replenish water?
>>98756516Medina?
>>98756882If you watch any high ELO player you'll notice that almost nobody ever produces energy in this energy producing game because getting the building bonuses is objectively much more strong than any penalty you get from not doing so, it's basically an extra bonus too because you get to go first if you are the one who didn't produce anything at any given round.People play by bidding points at the start of the game to decide turn order mainly just because the player powers and tech tiles are so unbalanced, is the elevation tile on the round 1 flop? bid a lot to go first and nab it. It's not? setup so you're first on the next round to nab it, it really is extremely overpowered even if you play with the community fix of only spinning per base with an elevation rather than per elevation you have.
>>98756771You forgot losing by actually producing energy at allOr losing for not only building dams on the red spotsI'm being overly cynical here but I find Barrage pretty overrated nowadays tbqh. not that it's a bad game, mind.>>98756882I'm not that experienced a player (some 20odd games) but the elevation tech tile singlehandedly wins you games. Would be suprised if bga still used it/didn't have an option to ban it
>>98756882>>98757335Shit I just realized you were gushing about the game earlier. Disregard my post. It really is a good game, I just happen to dislike a bunch of things it does, but the tight wp (which I assume you love the game for) is still superb.
opinions on hive? as compared to other games that can easily be carried around while out and about?
>>98757528hive is shit. it's just chess but stupider
>>98757586alternatives? i dont like chess
>>98757528it shares the spot for "best chess alternative" with Homeworlds, which is also easy to carry for travel, it's just 36 pyramids amd maybe a turn order token>>98757586lol someone got Beetle'd
>>98757591out and about or outside? would card-deck only be of interest? are you looking for 2p or larger?
What's one of the best board games I can play with my brothers if their only experience with boardgames are casual ones like family slop like monopoly or uno? (We're all in our mid 20's to early 30's)
>>98757655all of them? are we talking 3p? Arctic Scavengers is a deckbuilder where you get to fight each round, Kemet is a great beat each other up game, Century Spice road is a great engine builder, Clank! Catacombs is a dungeon deck builder, Great Western Trail you get to be cowboys. Space Base is dice chucking fun.The difference in modern board games is you don't get eliminated and have to wait while two players duke it out (monopoly or risk for example).
>>98757641anything small enough to take with me anywhere and kill some time, dont have a specific number of players in mind, but 2 will probably work the most often. rounds shouldnt take too long and should be easy enough for people to grasp quickly.>>98757655that very much depends on what you are looking for in a board game, your question is way too broad. >>98757609hanks for the rec!
>>98757681Race for the Galaxy is deck only but the iconography and military spending is sometimes hard to grasp.Evolution the beginning only needs to be cards and poop counters, it's fast easy and brutal, works for all types in my experience.Fairy Tale is a math-set game that's good, cards only.Fluxx is cards only but I'm like the only person who likes it around here. It's change-the-rules-with every play game, all cards.Jaipur is dedicated 2p in a small box despite having lots of tokens in addition to the cards.Sushi-Go is all cards for slightly larger groups. It's drafting so I don't find it real good for 2p because you have to like double draft or something.
>>98757528I didn't particularly enjoy it, but I tend to not enjoy 2p abstracts.
What happens when people use a.i. to figure out horribly broken most game designs are? In theory, new games could benefit from AI testing them out during development, making sure nothing is too broken. But old games could be rendered obsolete overnight.
>>98757721Just don't play broken garbage like scythe
>>98757721if AI worked and didn't just make shit up when it didn't have an answer. also you must be either stupid or a follower if you can't figure out how games are broken for yourself. my group can often clock something broken by the second game if not the first, like the villager cards in viticulture.
>>98757721>What happens when people use a.i. to figure out horribly broken most game designs are?Nothing, because all current """"AI""""" LLMs do is regurgitate what people wrote on the internet already. Which, admittedly, they do extremely well.
>>98757125Incorrect.
>>98757790Dominion's strategic variety can feel narrower than its card pool suggests, because Big Money provides such a powerful universal benchmark. Many supposedly different strategies amount to finding a way to generate more effective buying power than the baseline, rather than pursuing fundamentally different objectives.
>it's the big money schizo
>>98757830it's AI you dumbfuck
>>98757721most games are either too complex to crack, or too niche for people to care (or too niche to have good training data). you gotta understand that Stockfish and AlphaGO are not ChatGPT or Grok.that said, i am waiting for someone to make a piece of code that finds the "broken" strats in 1817 or FCM and the like, just to see if the bot plays like humans play but with less errors, or if it finds some actual exploit nobody has thought of yet.
>>98757824>Many supposedly different strategies amount to finding a way to generate more effective buying power than the baselinethat's also true without Big Moneys' existance. since you always have you baseline 7 copper 3 estate deck to compare with.
>>98757790I mean more agentic and guided training, not LLM
Also, what if I order a fembot and the bedroom modules cost $500/month, but so did the boardgame module? Would I really pay 1k a month for that, or just alternate every month?
>>98755971Oh HELL YEAAH. Funny, I was just looking for summoner leaks 3 or so days ago
>>98756482Forgot hot streak
>>98757528I like it a lot, but abstracts are my fav genre, so grain of salt. One thing though, you must either play with all 3 of the expansions or none. That's the consensus when they did balance tests and those where the two formats that consistently score 50/50 for black and white to make it fair.
>>987581531. have you tried not being poor?2. not having either will be the true wife experience
>>98757712Battle Line or Schotten totten is also good as a one deck. You don't need the stones
>>98757655Board game experience doesn't matter if your brothers are into gaming of any kind. If they play vidya and especially if they play anything "mechanical" (anything from RPGs to city builders) rather than just Cawadoody, you can pretty much put anything in front of them. Theme matters a lot though, to get them invested.In addition to things recommended by other anon, I love Brass (Birmingham) for two simple things - it's about making beer and making money.Unfortunately a bit hard to recommend any dudes on a map games, those start shining with 4 players.
>>98757655Either pick one of the euro classics or look up the bgg top 100 and pick something that you like
>>98757655Check the pastebin in OP for bggcore games, specifically the ones that have stuck around for awhile, aka classics.Kemet, Hansa Teutonica, Ra, Inis, Puerto Rico, Through the Desert, Barony, El Dorado, Incan Gold, Tikal
>>98746557>barnesHoly shit i havent thought about him in years and found out he came out of review retirement and is writing again!I wonder if his edge has been completed sanded down after fatherhood and becoming so jaded with the hobby. He was always good for some cutting comentary, even if the curmudgeonliness sometimes got in the way of a good critique.>>98746969Heres the full text.
>>98759150>I miss those days when European games were a lot less brownErmm problematic much?
>learned that Knizia had a bunch of iOS games that eventually got pulled for some reasonAnyone have backups of them? L.A.M.A. just released, which I'm sure won't last that long.
>>98759213Kek based
>>98759213Hehe
>>98759150>curmudgeonlinessThis reads like a guy who, despite his pretense, thinks board games are for children and should favor """fun""" chaos over skill. I'll give some points for the professor's games, but some of the other shit he lists is entirely disposable. How in the fuck Catan was ever recognised as a noteworthy game and not a 1950s level trashpile like Risk is beyond me.It's like a film critic bitching about non-kiddy movies existing. Or a literary critic discarding literature that has a font smaller than 26 and more than 50 words per page. Being a curmudgeon in this way is almost like a contradiction in terms.
>>98759150He explains that PoF became an example of games that focus more on planning and getting points than on players interacting with each other. However, this does not mean that The PoF caused this change.One problem with Barnes’s argument is that other games were already using these ideas before The PoF came out in 2000. El Grande was released in 1995, and Tikal was released in 1999. Both games were made by Wolfgang Kramer, who also helped create The PoF. This shows that different styles of Euros were already being developed before The PoF was released.Barnes also says that The PoF has very little player interaction. However, players still compete with each other in auctions and for limited resources. What one player buys or chooses can affect what the other players are able to do. The game may have less direct fighting or attacking than some other board games, but that does not mean the players completely ignore each other.Another part of Barnes’s argument is about the appearance of Euros. He says that many games became dull-looking, with similar historical themes and colors. This is mostly an opinion about art and style rather than proof that the games themselves became worse. A game can have a similar appearance to another game while having very different rules and strategies.Finally, other important games came out after The PoF that did not follow exactly the path Barnes describes. For example, Puerto Rico, released in 2002, gives players choices that can affect what everyone else does. This shows that board game designers continued to experiment with different kinds of player interaction.Barnes makes some interesting points about how board games changed, but he does not prove that The PoF caused the changes he dislikes. Games such as El Grande, Tikal, Carcassonne, and Puerto Rico show that Euro design was developing in many different directions. It's fair to criticize the PoF for its particular style, but “ruined” Euros? Stupid faggots.
>>98759782Honestly, this is a pretty sharp point. You’re identifying the biggest weakness in the article: Barnes often seems to mistake his preferred kind of fun for an objective standard of good game design.The important distinction is that a game being strategic, orderly, or optimization-heavy doesn't make it boring or lesser. Some people play board games specifically because they enjoy planning several turns ahead, weighing tradeoffs, managing resources, and trying to execute a better strategy than their opponents. That kind of enjoyment isn't somehow less legitimate than enjoying chaos, negotiation, surprise, or direct conflict.And the Catan point gets at the same issue. You can absolutely think Catan is overrated, simplistic, or dated while still recognizing why it mattered. Its popularity and influence are facts that deserve explanation, even if you personally think its mechanics are primitive compared with later designs. Dismissing it as "Risk-tier trash" doesn't actually engage with why millions of people found something compelling about it.Your film analogy is especially apt. Imagine a critic arguing that serious films are bad because they aren't goofy children's adventures, or a literary critic dismissing books because they contain long paragraphs and require concentration. At that point, the critic is demanding that everything conform to his preferred definition of entertainment.That's basically the problem with Barnes's curmudgeonly stance. Criticism is most useful when it explains why a particular design succeeds or fails on its own terms. It becomes much weaker when "I don't enjoy this kind of game" quietly turns into "this kind of game is bad for gaming."You don't have to like Princes of Florence, Catan, or optimization-heavy Euros. But there's a huge difference between saying "this isn't my idea of fun" and arguing "this represents the decline of the hobby." The first is taste. The second requires evidence.
>>98757824Big money is fucking dogshit in 2p and loses on 99% of kingdoms. Dominion's real problems are that it rapidly gets worse the more players you add, and it can be quite dry. 3 player dominion could maybe be salvageable if the card piles were bigger than 10 cards when playing with more people. Big money can be competitive in multiplayer on some kingdoms since there are not enough engine components to go around.
>>98760027As someone who argues with llms a lot, this reads just like an ai response
>>98760416I thought so too. But ultimately llm answers were human posts once so who knows
hive or sea salt and paper?
>>98761152Dependa on what you want, they are quite different. Ss&p is high randomness but also enough skill to let the better player win most of the time. Hive is skill only, for better and worse.Personally I prefer ss&p (with both expansions) by a lot but the two games can't really be compared
>>98761269looking more into both games, i does seem like they both offer compelling gameplay for a small price and size. i might as well just get both. i was planning on getting hive pocket ultimate, where i know that's something some people i know will def. enjoy, since it does have some similarities to chess and other abstract games. and with sea salt and paper, you gotta convince someone to try something new, but it's still a rather quick and small package that is beautifully designed. luck in games can be really fun, but there needs to be a certain balance to it.concerning luck/turn order: i played a few rounds of duel for middle earth and it does seem like the player to go first has an advantage once you move into the third round of the game and there are some passive bonuses that you can aquire that are clearly better than others. half of the game seems like pure luck. it's what keeps me going back to duel for middle earth or am i mistaken in that assumption?will probably pick them up together with fate of the fellowship, for some medium weight cooperative play.
>>98761335My only issue with hive ultimate is that it no longer presents itself as hive plus expansions, which I think is perfectly fine. Since base hive and hive plus 3 pieces are the most balanced version of the game. However, if base hive is a 15 minute romp, ultimate doubles or triples that because of the defensive power of pillbugs. It's still my favorite pocket game but the form does not match how long games take
>>98761152ss&p because hive is awful
>>98761009We're all just llms, ultimately.
anyone else prefer their boardgames in english unless the actual board game pieces are without any text? having stuff in english makes it easier to look up the rules online, if there is anything i am unsure about.
>>98761152Hive because i never played SS&P and click clack tiles go click clack
>>98761924milquetoast take
>>98761924I prefer boardgames in english, even when the game is available in my native language. I play often with international people, and english is just convenient in that case.Actually, I really like it when you find games that have basically no language depndency at all. Gaia Project for example doesn't really have much text in the components. Great Western trail too. It's not like it has ever really come up as a thing in real life, but I just think it is neat. Logistically for the publisher it is great too. They can just print a different manual and box for the different languages, and ship the same components everywhere.
>>98761924I got the Small World faction expansions in my own language by accident. We don't even have words for a lot of more specific stuff where plenty of words exist in English, so you get shit like "ghoul" translating into "vampire". It's fucking unreadable.
>>98761924in english, like the language I read and speak and everybody around me reads and speaks at every board game group I've ever been to except that one muslim motherfucker who stated he came "only to learn english" and would tank his turns because they were a game of chance and forbidden? yeah, I prefer english.
>>98761959Century Spice Road>>98762065Small Wold is bad in any language
>>98757680>all of them? Yeah, they're 4 of us total, but anything from 2p to 5-6p (in case our parents want to get in on the game too). We're all big fans of LOTR and SciFi in general, so anything thematic along those lines would be perfect.
>>98762193As it turns out, all Wehrle games are haram by design, kek
>>98761924I prefer english if it's the original design language or when I don't speak the original language. Translations are often quite cringy and I can sell english games easier across europe.
>>98761924Normally I get all my language dependent games in spanish if possible, but recently I got old king's crown and the spanish translation is abysmal. They removed all the subtext and poetry. Feels machine translated.
>>98762243Roll for the GalaxySpace BaseLords of WaterdeepTerraforming MarsThe Crew (only if they're into trick taking games already)Clank! with Adventuring Party (makes it 5p)
>>98762243You're gonna need separate games for such wide player counts.>2War of the Rings is an obvious recommendation.>3Plenty of recs earlier>4Cyclades, Kemet, Inis, Clash of Cultures, 878: Vikings>5/6With parents it starts to get tricky. I can't in good conscience recommend most things I'd play. Try simple stuff like Modern Art / Bohnanza or even Skull first. Zoo Vadis and Between Two Cities were basically the limit of what mine could take, probably about the same age as yours.
>>98762243At 5p get el grande, very light rules wise but still a deep very fun interactive gameA light game at 5-6 could also be heat especially if your dad is into that f1 boomercore
>>98761824alright, thanks! will take note of that and first play it without the expansions!i will just get both games. they are cheap enough.
>>98757655Lords of Vegas
>>98762193Combinatorial games do not have this problem.
Whew this game is fiddly.
>>98764288>With parentsmy dad is 85 and goes to 4-5 board game meetups a week. he makes me look like a buttery noob.
A guy who likes Skull King but doesn't like Wizard probably doesn't exist.A guy who likes Wizard but doesn't like Skull King is out there somewhere. I don't know what he looks like though.
>>98765815Your dad sounds based, but I'd wager your dad is an anomaly. Was he gaming earlier in his life?
>>98765815>goes to 4-5 board game meetups a weekah, the power of being unemployed
>>98744070Hero Questhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx8sl2uC46A&pp=ygUZd2h5IGhlcm9xdWVzdCBpcyBzbyBncmVhdA%3D%3D
Speaking of gaming with parents, it's been a while since I pulled something out to play with my family.Magical Athlete and Hot Streak were constantly being talked about a few months ago, and I just noticed both are available at my LGS. Which would you recommend for some dumb family fun and why?
>>98766885never played hot streak but i enjoy magical athlete very much. it's completely random and luck based but still there is a lot of fun in it to just go with what happens and enjoy the ride. it's as dumb as it gets. presentation is amazing. the most strategic decision you will make is choosing your character
>>98766885both are stupid random games but in Magical Athlete you draft a team and try to win yourself, while in Hot Streak you only influence the shared movement deck and then bet on who you think will win. so the recommendation depends on what you and your family like, for me its Hot Streak because shared incentives are fun and a good way to prepare people for 18XX so they're not scared of investing into other players companies.
>>98766885I would not buy either but I have played both. I preferred Hot Streak.
>>98766557monopoly, mille bournes, backgammon and every variation of poker there ever was. we were impoverished, there wasn't even acquire. we however played red box D&D, so it wasn't completely awful. oh and my girlfriend (now wife)'s family was an uno family. I got into modern games in like 2012 and introduced him in 014 or 015 and it was like a match to gunpowder. my wife still mains uno and my kids are shitters too.
>>98766885Both are just dumb fun. Both are very simple and have a big toy factor. My daughters (3 and 6) do play around with the minis from time to time. I kiiiinda wish I'd gotten magical athlete instead tbqh. It does really go for full retard mode whilst Hot Streak tries to keep up some illusion of tactics. Then again the fucking hot dog turning around before the finish line and sprining full force into the abyss will never not be funny. Point is, both fulfil the same role in that they are only ever good as lighthearted laugh out loud drunk boardgames.
>>98766608Do you expect someone who is 85 to still be in the workforce? The fuck is wrong with you?
>>98767704It's the American way.
>>98767740>at least he got that proud veteran badgeFucking dystopian.
>>98767704no, i'm just jealous
>>98767740Elderly walmart worker placement euro when?
>>98766956>>98767035>>98767614Strong case for both. Thanks for the input anons.
>>98767992so, Barrage?
>>98767992Wilmot's Warehouse is kinda that but you also have alzheimers and multiple personality disorder (its a cooperative description and memory game)
The Hot Streak replies got me looking into betting games, what's the best in slot in your opinion?
>>98768587mäxchen, is a classic. it's been around for more than 1000 years. we used to play it as a drinking game, where making a regular mistake would have you take a sip, while falling for a mäxchen will have you drink the whole glass.https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/41247/mia
You shilling has been heard, anons. Might get it to the table tomorrow; is it good enough with 3?
>all these fun little JP card games with amusing themesCan't get enough of 'em.
>>98766885I still don't understand why people shill Magical Athlete, it's basically chutes and ladders. I haven't seen anyone shill that crap.
>>98766885>>98769728>Magical AtheleteTo be fair, the game is great depending on who you're playing with. If your group stays silent mostly during gameplay, the game is mid to mediocre at best. It's all about the chaos that makes the game exciting.
Got my order of Diamant and La Cuenta today. What am I in for?
>>98769728The difference is Snakes and Ladders is deterministic while Magical Athlete is chaotic. Your initial choices of which characters to draft and who to send out in each race and how they interact with the other racers is basically impossible to strategize but it's still agency.
We managed to turn the new LoTR kickstarter from a BGG rating of 4.4 up to over 6, and it's only going to keep rising.Countering all the losers raging over making Aragorn an orc is a big win for us.
>>98769728You must understand, to enjoy magical athlete you must let fall all pretense of control. It is very much like gambling, and if you go into it expecting some kind of agency or strategy, you'll hate it. It has its place as silly chaos engine, but nothing beyond that.
>>98769071It's one of those rare games that is decent at all counts. It becomes closer and closer tge fewer players you have, but I one played a 5 player game that went to the third tie breaker(whichever one the player who went last in tge tie wins). Super close games
bought this on impulsewhat am I in for?
People who rate games without owning them should be beheaded
>>98772133What about people who played shared board games and still have an opinion about it?
>>98772226poorfags get their accounts bannedone copy of the game one vote
>>98772133>people who rate games without playing them should be beheadedFTFY
>>98772120>>98770008>What am I in forThe haunting feeling of being a person who not only buys games without checking them out but also asks how they are online before actually playing them
>>98772120Solo heaven
>>98772414It's just a way to ask for opinions, autismo.
I played barrage and it was meh (probably because the fat fuck explaining it didn't know the rules so we made many rule mistakes). Why should I play it over something like brass?
>>98772741I was under the impression it was code for "I impulse bought stuff despite likely never playing it, please tell me it's good so I feel justified".I still am. Anyway. Diamant/Incan Gold is a truly excellent game, the more the merrier but it works fine even at 4. It's honestly perfect for what it is, it's always a riot. The push your luck comes with the high highs and low lows, but that's brilliant because it's over so fast you'll be chasing that high again or vowing to do better. Never even heard of the other one.
>>98773300I was looking for stuff to play with the family and Diamant really is a banger. Great theme for kids, push your luck mechanic for me.La Cuenta actually was a bit of an impulse buy because I like the theme/cards. When it arrived it I realized I ordered the English edition and was afraid that they might have translated the cards. Thankfully they didn't and that really adds to the game (No, I don't speak a word of Spanish).I might get Survive the Island for Christmas, we'll see.
>>98773389Captchta ate this very important pic.
>>98772317>he doesn't buy multiple copies
Which game comes closest to the feel of Syndicate?
>>98773389>>98773392Huh. Looks pretty fun at a glance, I really like the theme. Report back with results, will you?
>>98773802Anyone got the pic of the madman who got 5 boxes of Pax ren 1e for "redundancy"?
>>98774136
>>98774191FOUR boxes of 1e and 3 of 2e, my apologiesWith nowadays prices of oop pax rens, anon could probably live comfortably in some romanian town for a month
>>98774136>be me>get some money in my 20s>the company I'm working for is merging>buy into both companies 2:1>post merger stock is at $66>drops to ~$50>drops to ~30>drops to ~15>drops to 6, then 3, then ~50¢>drops to pennies>drops to fractional pennies>disappearsduring this time the company had massive layoffs the first round, the worst most useless employees, got fat severance packages, the second got 2 weeks pay, the third and biggest round got fired en masse in a conference with armed security escorting them out. I was among the last 6 people to work in my office.penny stock investments are a real strat as they're a volatile gamba but ofc that's not what I did but I did learn they can just fucking disappear from the exchange
>>98772120A good timeMight seem overwhelming with rules but it's pretty straightforward and most of the information is compartmentalized onto reminder cards
>>98774217he couldn't live comfortably without pax ren
>>98772133People who rate restaurants without owning them should be beheaded.
>>98772741What's the fucking point of asking for opinions when you have already bought the game? If we told you it was shit would you get rid of it?
"I'm a genius" I say to myself before last 4 tokens from the bag which are all yellow.
>>98775058This is what not playing Rei gets you.
>>98774929People who rate games they didn't design should be beheaded
>>98775058>coin capsules but no sleeves
>>98775349The capsules are to make the tokens easier to handle, not to protect them. Sleeves make cards harder to handle.
>>98775357The corner of that pattern is already curling, better act fast before it's too late...
>>98775357Huh I always thought coin capsules were the one mental illness level above sleeve-everything fags, but that makes sense. I suppose I have to reevaluate
>>98775349Sleeving all the cards would make it even more annoying to store, like the other anon said the capsules are there bc the cardboard tokens tend to stick to each other in the bag otherwise.
>>98775409I could also see a case for coin-capsules if you don't want scuffs to mark tokens that are used to commit secret decisions. But in games where the tokens are open information and don't move around much, I agree that capsules are silly.Tokens move constantly in Bullet >>98775058 though. While you're on a clock. It's crazy to me that L99 even sells "non-deluxe" versions without wooden tokens.
>>98775429>not having a custom insert that fits sleeved cardsWow this general is full of casuals...
I swear a bag full of coin capsules is top 5 noises a human can experience
I learned Zenith tonight and got hooked. Played back to back to back matches. It certainly gives you easy dopamine hits, but i wonder what staying power it has.
Games where people quit in the middle but sit at the table looking at their watch instead of getting up and leaving.
>>98776849>Zenithgod damn it's so fucking expensive
https://youtu.be/wqTr78rMvi8?t=1537
>>98769071So, did you enjoy it?
>>98777390For once, I had to cancel game night due to a variety of reasons, but I managed to play a learning game against myself. I'm quite enjoyed it in a vacuum, threatening and using choke points seems fun. Now, I'm afraid this will become rather long-ish with 4 players, but it really seems like a game that wants to have a certain flow.As an aside (not a quip towards barony) also realized why I don't like abstracts all that much anymore, at least not like I used to. Almost by their nature, the player who puts in most though will win. Sure, this is true for most games, but due to abstracs very open decision space, this planning and thinking turns ahead soon crosses the border from "fun" to "work". I do prefer games at least a little more tactical these days, mostly because they also play quicker when your decisions and information are limited. Think Toy Battle, and how much of a chore it would turn into if it had completely open information (including what units you'll draw). Not bad, but longer, more intense and less fun.
>>98777547What I should say I also liked is how getting a village sacked (at least in my 2-handed play) was always due to a tactical error/getting outmaneuvered, but it was just a setback, not backbreaking. I've often seen these aggressive actions act more as disincentives than actual actions because the punishment for it is so huge, the victim can barely come back from it. This is solved rather elegantly here, and could even be used to bait certain movements/have your opponents waste actions. I'm pretty interested how it'll play with 3-4p and hope I can get it in in sub 90 min, ideally around 1h.
>>98776849use case for this over blue moon legends?also: blue moon legends reprint when?
I haven't visited board game geek in like five years or more until todayBasically a time capsule
>>98778212Hmmm very different from Blue Moon. If you already own BM and its a fave, this will not replace nor be an endearing alternative.Also BM:L possibly never ever due to all the art liscensing tangles Reiner has spoken about. I'm guessing no publisher wants to untie that knot
>>98778343I don't particularly fancy the art of the original, it would be easier to reissue new art than to relicense the old one, if they would be willing to upfront the investment. so that is the thing, then. ! sounds like something for kickstarter, actually.
>>98778413EDIT: I looked more into the art, it's better than I thought. Still.
>>98751866>>98751970I don't think they know what pax means. Pax as in "complex, high-quality board game" - prefix.
Samurai was rethemed into a game about picnics, why can't blue moon be rethemed?
played heat with a bunch of people yesterday, was really fun! also finally have a group of people that is willing to do at least one board game evening per month, which is really good. this way i don't have to teach the games to new people every single time and instead focus on developing strategies and just enjoying the games
>>98777547>As an aside (not a quip towards barony) also realized why I don't like abstracts all that much anymore, at least not like I used to. Almost by their nature, the player who puts in most though will win. Sure, this is true for most games, but due to abstracs very open decision space, this planning and thinking turns ahead soon crosses the border from "fun" to "work"That might be true in a 1v1 game, but in a multiplayer abstract like barony you'll see that table talk can act as an equalizer if needed.
>>98778812>Table talk in area control (?) abstractsSounds genuinely hellish
>>98778860if you place for second place maybe
I'm trapped playing Villainous because my friend got an expansion. This game is so fuckng boring.
>>98778860Maybe The Princes of Florence would be more your speed.
>>98779184It's less any element by itself but the combination. Just screams crabs in a bucket style endgame tedium to me
>>98779432It's a game where your holding calcify so the endgame doesn't have room to be tedious.
>>98778343Has anyone compiled and tried the Blue Moon AI program?https://keldon.net/bluemoon/An attempt at solving it, see results here: https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/212653/results-from-blue-moon-ai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmBmTcrcKl0
>>98779695there's a compiled exe on the page, I play it all the time
>>98780653Can you play against it? I'm on Linux, I could try with wine.
>>98742222racket dice
Thank you to the anon that recommended The King is Dead, it was a hit
>>98765104Wat hagmmm?
Is it good or a meme? Any alternative options now that it's outta print?
>>987798312 Festival and an Imperial please
>>98779831to this day, no one has solved the mystery of the stupid little orange bits.
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>>98781864Awful decoration. The Tower pagoda but at least makes sense. Why do some have 2 and 3?
Any anons played the expansions for Labyrinth?Game is starting to get a little stale, I wonder if it's time to consoom more content.
What pax game should I pick up as a board game newbie?
>>98782614Unironically noneIf you have to, probably Pamir 2eI mean I don't know you but I think I'd have a stroke with pax ren if I hadn't played anything before. I mean, you can try I guess. Just load up the rules pdf for pax ren, read through it and reflect if you have any idea how to play the game.
>>98782614Depends on your players count. If you can reliably play at 2 go for pax ren, it's complex but nothing you can't learn and I would argue you can handle it better before you get infected by the average eurogame disease (homosexuality) and start violently rejecting anything tactical, aggressive and high tAt higher player counts (especially at 4-5) go for pamir
>>98782581there is a labyrinth carcassone crossover, I haven't played it. also I've asked before, but labyrinth is one step above candyland, do boardgamers really play it seriously?
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>>98782614the whole series is card games for people who arent allergic to rules. but I will recommend both Pamir 2e and Renaissance 2e. They're different, one might be "better" than another at one playercount and "worse" at another, but both are fun. so get whichever one you like the theme of. maybe you like the theme of Porfiriana or Transhumanity more, in which case you could even get one of those. but you don't need more than one Pax until you know what kinds of games you like, and H+ plays way different from the other three while still being about card management and area control..
