13 Years Strong EditionPrevious: >>98742407>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: what are your best mtg specs?
>>98749258>what are your best mtg specs?What did he mean by this?
>>98749258>TQ:None. I don't wear glasses. Though I do TECHNICALLY need them (Nearsighted)
>TQ5090 is a must for EDH
Just spent an hour having my field looped by Orvar buying back Mind Games on Talon Gates of Madara so that game was pretty shit.
>>98749301How did the Orvar player make that happen? Did he have infinite mana?
>>98749314He would duplicate Talon Gates of Madara with his commander then phase out my board on my upkeep every turn, so yes, he did have infinite mana because the loop was ramping him.
Why is someone flooding the thread with pointless cards?>Notice the lack of Gay Bolas in the OPNow, why did you go out of your way to rile the sperg up, hmm? Are you a sperg yourself, can't let sleeping gay dragons lie?
>>98749340how much söy have you consumed today?
Is there a good jujutsu commander?
I know it's cool that red is getting all these extra combat cards, but I don't like them being all gruul and boros. Where's the dimir aggro?
>>98749354None, but it's onions to not go out of your way to rile up spergs who will go out of their way to ruin things for everyone? What is onions about wanting a relatively usable thread? Can you say? Or are you just going to waffle and schizo babble at me for even asking?
>>98749390how did they solve aggro? you need to be able to kill players fast but killing a player before turn 9 is banned
>>98749390Extra combats are red's wheelhouse go play a time warp if you want a second combat phase in blue.
>>98749390Stop shilling, no one likes this dumbass.
>>98749394>killing a player before turn 9 is bannedIt's actually allowedhttps://m.twitch.tv/videos/2597691530?t=00h54m28s
>>98749393Someone's pissy that his bull was HIV negative.
>>98749407it's not written in the official rules so he's wrong, you cannot kill a player before turn 6 in bracket 3
>>98749452>Inane schizo babbleAs expected. I just kind wish you could at least tell me why? Genuinely curious. But you probably won't. It doesn't matter, proceed with your shitposting.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98749461>uhh gavin the guy who makes the rules only said it so it doesnt count!Cope, i'll kill you turn 6 in b2 using the *gasp* combat step and if you complain you're a filthy simic tranny
Anybody built this friendly fellow? Is he fun?
Anyone free for some deckbuilding help?
>>98749519what do you want that edhrec can't solve for you
>>98748710Brown backwards
>>98749550Just a general assessment of deck power. Making something that can hopefully hang in upper Bracket 3.
>>98749565tell me what you're doing with your deck then i'll tell you if it's worth it in b3
>>98749611I feel justified running thassa in a 5c slop deck.
>>98749611Aiming to ramp/ritual Avacyn out by turn 4-5 to establish the recursion engine, then use the multiple sac outlets to get max ETB/dies value on every player's turn once she's out.https://moxfield.com/decks/FuL85NItgESy9-52QSrt3g
>>98749645you have no way to suddenly win on t7 with a combo, i would not recommend this on a b3 pod
>>98749655I took out Forsaken Miner + Blood Artist infinite since it could be assembled super early, what are some T6-T7 combos available in Mono Black?
>>98749340The TQ, probably
>>98749667you also need warren soultrader or phyrexian altar for that, making it a three card combo, which is perfectly fine in b3I would also add chthonian nightmare for repeatable recursion for garry etc. in case you don't have your commander available, and maybe sensei's top so you don't get stuck with a land on top with citadel in play
>>98749667mike + ballistaballista also functions as an infinite mana outlet for cabal coffers rings of brighthearth infinite mana combosit also helps if your commander is a combo piece itselfsince lower brackets put limits on how fast you can combo off the key is to look for combo pieces that also function as value pieces so you don't feel bad that you have to 'sandbag' and that your pieces do nothing by themselves should the game drag on to a grind
>>98749519SureI finished my 10 3c decks and now am looking to make them all truly Highlander (1 copy of non-lands between them, minus sol Ring) In theory, what deck archetype benefits most from a 3 mana draw 3? A combo deck looking to dig for cards, control or a standard value engine deck?
>>98749701making distinctions between two-card and three-card is a fool's errand and is an outdated way from gavin to limit combo consistency; also people can't even agree on them, edhrec defines dualcaster + twinflame + any creature as 'two-card' for fuck's sakethe correct way to use brackets is to put limits on when you can combo off (in b3 that would be t7) regardless of how many pieces your combo constitutes, otherwise the whole thing gets silly once your commander is a combo all on its own
>>98749519>>98749512Yea, what do I do with this silly little monkey
Infinite combos are boring
Would commander be a better format if pramikon was the default rule
>>98749766I generally agree but if you do some meme shit like assembling all the stations you've earned it as far as I'm concerned.
>>98749701Good shouts anon, I'll try to work those in. Energy Counters aren't stored in Chthonian Nightmare itself, right? If I slowly accumulate 1-drop recursions i'll eventually have 6 or 7 energy by the third or fourth time it comes down?>>98749706Ooh I forgot about Mikaeus. He fits too lore-wise. Question about his Undying ability though -> If a creature with a +1/+1 counter on it dies, it comes back with a +1/+1 immediately. If I sacrifice it again, it comes back with Avacyn's rez on the next end step, but without the +1/+1 counter, making Mikaeus's insta-rez valid again?
>>98749766Always have been, back before I'd say like 2018 or so, they were generally frowned upon outside of cedh (some exceptions included 4+ card rube goldberg machines)
>>98749791Is this an infinite? Wouldn't you need an ornithopter or something?
>>98749806>If I sacrifice it again, it comes back with Avacyn's rez on the next end step, but without the +1/+1 counter, making Mikaeus's insta-rez valid again?yes
>>98749806*meant to say if a creature WITHOUT a counter dies.
>>98749806yes you keep energy regardless of what happens
>>98749806Yes
>>98749812That's right, you do need something to pull out of the graveyard with Salvaging Station but it is not particularly difficult to crack some shitty cantrip egg at some point during an edh game.
>>98749806YesA creature without a counter diesEvilcyn sets up a delayed trigger to res it at EoTUndying says res it with a counter nowIt comes back nowDelayed trigger can't find it in your graveyard and whiffsCreature with a counter diesUndying doesn't careEvilcyn sets up a delayed triggerComes back at EoTIf in the first scenario the undying trigger gets stifled somehow, the avacyn trigger will still try and fish it out of your gy if it didn't go anywhere between when it did and EoT.
>>98749393If your argument is "give in to terrorists" no one is gonna take your seriously
>>98749478You gonna show everyone a 1hour video when the table turns against you because you broke the bracket guidelines from the infographic? You can't realistically expect that. And having an addendum for your rules verbally in some obscure video is a shit implementation. Or is this one of those "the table is always me and my two long term friends who always agree with me, and anon" larps?
>>98749931>You gonna show everyone a 1hour video (when it's timestamped)>obscure video (when it's from the mtg twitch channel, straight from gavin's mouth)your cope is palpable, seethe more
>he doesn't buy singles>he actually cracks packs
>>98749982Cracking packs is fun
>>98750010For draft nights? Sure
>>98749982I like selling packs to gamblers. I actively encourage people to gamble.
>>98749943How do you think this interaction would go about anon? In real conversation, not 4chan smug one linersYou got someone complaining you betrayed bracket guidelines. You pull your phone, you look for a video, you show Gavin mid sentence talking about something somewhat related, you play some previous minutes for context on what amounts to a jewish pilpul, where Gavin never explicitly says you could do it, then everyone claps and says you're right? You start an argument there trying to discern the intentions of Gavin. I disagree with you, you think three random strangers would agree or not agree with you? Even if you say I'm retarded and can't understand English and Gavin and yada yada, you think it's likely the strangers will?
>>98750034I personally would simply tell them that I have been playing voltron since 2013 and it has never been and never will be an unbalanced strategy.
>>98750034>look guys do you really think wotc wants to disincentivize people from one-shotting people one at a time in b2 using telegraphed and disruptible combat commanders they print out every 3 months?>...guess not!you are a midwit with no common sense and you shouldn't be talking
>>98749982>tfw bought a Fracture play box for my friend's stream this Sunday>we're gonna crack packs and do a little limited nightits top comfy
>>98750033I drafted LOTR in 2023 and pulled a One Ring. Now it's about $100+ (I paid $4), and I got to play MTG with all those cards too. So actually I encourage drafting with friends instead
>>98750057You can't draft my WoE collectors, but you definitely will get that confetti foil anime titty smothering tithe if you open it. Guaranteed
>>98750054Whats their twitch
>>98750057I missed the set but I did get one LotR pack for a buy-in once and got a March of the Ents, will never open the set again because my average can only go down.
>>98750047>>98750051>do you really think wotc...>yes I do, it says so in the pictureMaybe they say guess not, maybe they say yes, maybe some say yes and others not. What then? You really can't picture a scenario where someone disagrees with you? Abandon your "I win I win" 4chan larp for a moment, you really can't see why some anons could be concerned with this?
>>98749556brave!!
>>98750079>win conditions to be incremental, telegraphed on the board, and disruptiblevoltron commanders to a T>to play at least 8 turns before anyone winsyou don't win until all 3 of your opps are dead and voltron needs to make that extra effort unlike an infinite combo>to play at least 8 turns before anyone losesyou only lose if you don't have the disruption and that is not the voltron commander's fault if you don't have it unlike a thoracle combo that literally only one color can stoplike i just said, you are a midwit with no actual insight whatsoever
>>98750078This is just winmore slop but I do like it
>>98750089Not answering my questions? You start this whole argument, then all three say>I disagree, it says so in the pictureDo you think this is something that could possibly happen, yes or no? What then?
What was the last truly great set?
>>98750115Avacyn Restored was the last time I felt pandered to so I'm gonna go with that.
>>98750112>i disagree, my mind is closed, and no amount of your arguments will convince meback to rule zero with you then
How would you say the health of the game has changed since Wizards took over EDH?
>>98750132healthier than sheldon ever made it
>>98750115Final Fantasy was the best set in ages and I can prove that mathematically. Count how many Yuffie belly buttons are in other sets, and then compare that number to how many are in the FF set. Ergo, vis a vis, it is objectively the best set of all time.
>>98749982I crack packs for inspiration. That's what I've done since getting introduced to commander. Maybe do open a variety, though; I did it for Bloomburrow and while I made some pretty good decks I suspect my friends now think I'm a furry cuz my decks are all animals.
Well, okay. Deleted the previous post because for whatever reason it was tipped over.Tried for living weapons/ninjutsu. Not quite where I want it to be. Got a little cute with it and cut some actual removal for etb counterspells. Afterward you can suit them up with equips to give them evasion, swing in, then put them back in hand with ninjutsu.Perplexing Test isn't as good in this deck. It'll be going out for Soul Immolation. Looking for cuts for>Grazilaxx, Illithid Scholar>Thought Monitor>Thorin, Mountain King (good repeatable removal with ninjutsu)if anyone has any ideas. It seems a bit light on card draw.Ideally there'd also be room for lightning greaves since 0-mana equips can be important for ninjutsu shuffling. But I'm not seeing space for that either. There's a lot of tension in the deck as of now.
>>98750127Yes. Do you think it could happen or not? Do you see why voltron anons could be concerned with getting kicked out of tables, given how poorly it is explained? Last time I'm asking I'm getting bored
>>98749982The last prerelease I went to, I ended up pulling a bunch of cards I would never have considered adding to my deck, but have since become mainstays.I have also since then wasted about a hundred dollars on boosters and got nothing but garbage. I was, however, supporting my local game shop, so there's at least that.
>>98750115New Phyrexia
>>98750163>Do you see why voltron anons could be concerned with getting kicked out of tablesanyone can be kicked out for any reason, ranging from voltron to landfall to simic to discard to using terese nielsen art, but that's not what we're talking about, such people wouldn't be using brackets and would just play in their basements with rule zero to begin with>given how poorly it is explainedit's not once you use common sense (brackets are all about limiting combos and not the combat step), i've also given you multiple reasons why my logic works and how it aligns to wotc's, you just refuse to accept it because ultimately you're afraid of voltron because you can't bear to bring creature removal in your deck>Last time I'm asking I'm getting boredyeah midwit that's right you better run hahaha
>>98750107You do actually need win-more cards in a format where you have to do 120 damage.
>>98750188>picOhh you're that dude. Okay anon, you win the 4chan argument. All is good with brackets and no one could ever possibly point to the bracket picture and disagree with you, so we need not demand for them to be explained more clearly.Glad you had breakfast this morning btw
>>98750200>he came back after saying it's the last time he'll askyeah i know you're that schizo too, you're the only one itt that uses 'smug' and you're a midwit that can't accept that getting killed by a voltron commander is part of the game even on b2, have fun with your weenie hut jrs pods
>>98750161>Moonlit MeditationMy nigga
>>98750208Reply to or reference this post if you're homosexual
>>98750209It's cute in the deck, not great. But there's a lot of Christmas land scenarios it can create which makes me want to give it a try.
>>98750188>brackets are all about limiting combosLet me stop you right there. Even on the very bottom of the totem pole in bracket 1 you are allowed to combo out, provided the combo is assembled using enough different pieces. If brackets were really designed to limit combos there would be a hard "no infinite" bracket. But there isn't.
>>98750214you think i care if you think i'm a homo in an anonymous basket weaving forum?faggot we all know who (You) are, you seethe that voltron kicks your ass, and you are a midwit that adds nothing to the conversation, your words prove just how much of a midwit you are lmao
>>98750226>If brackets were really designed to limit combos there would be a hard "no infinite" bracket. But there isn't.who said combos are to be outlawed? i certainly didn't.brackets limit combos to specific turns (not pieces *cough* belzenlok) not that combos are to be banned outright because combos are part of the game no matter how much you deny it
>>98750188>(brackets are all about limiting combos and not the combat stepSeveral precons of the past 5 years have shipped with infinite combos.
>>98750238>>98750235
Is this secretly the most powerful mono white commander? He seems pretty good if you just play a pile of protection.
>>98750229Haha faggotSaddest part is I do agree with you on voltron but you're too hung up on winning internet points to have a conversationHave fun in the gay bar gayboy
>>98750249>Saddest part is I do agree with you on voltron>but i hate that it's you, so i'll keep arguing for the sake of it like a flaming faggotconcession accepted fag :)
>>98750243>Make a wrong statement >I never said they should be outlawed>Even though I clearly did.Okay retard.
>>98750258>limiting = outlawing!guess limiting voting to 18 year olds means voting is outlawed to everyone haha
>>98750079>Abandon your "I win I win" 4chan larp for a momentHe will not. He doesn't actually play EDH with people irl. He just comes here to sperg in the thread.
>>98750273i'm not the one sperging about voltron btw
>>98750273I know. His next line is that you're actually me Well if anyone actually wants to discuss how the bracket guidelines unfairly undermine voltron/aggro I'll be here
>>98750278Good for you, you are still a sperg in general though.
>>98749982Yes. Gotta scratch the gambling itch from time to time.The smell of freshly cracked packs is also a fun nostalgia hit from when I used to do it as a kid before there was Internet marketplaces.
>>98750284sure whatever you say tranny
>>98750161dont got any advice but sweet list, way better that anons post decks than sperg out
>>98750247Mono white has a lot of commanders that just make tokens. Built-in evasion is good, but it needs to connect and doesn't do so until turn 5 in a vacuum. If you're trying to just beat face and use tokens for backup, you'll probably get more impact out of someone like Adeline.
>>98750283>how the bracket guidelines unfairly undermine voltron/aggroyou'd be surprised at how LGSs just set up b3 FNMs as '3 GCs, no comboing off until t7, and no mld' and no one actually talks about stopping aggro cuz of fee fees
The waifu tax on this card is absurd. One piece of graveyard hate and this is functionally a vanilla 8/8 flying deathtouch creature. I know angelsimps will pay anything to get hoverslut #487 in their decks but holy shit calm down it's a really bad precon card.
>>98750283>how the bracket guidelines unfairly undermine voltron/aggro I'll be hereI think for Voltron, the bracket system should be defined by how quickly they can deal 63 commander damage, because think about the typical problem: a voltron deck can target an opponent to kill them before the turn limit. A lot of Voltron decks can hypothetically spread their attacks, though, choosing to focus one player as a gamestate assessment. The key thing to note is that a lot of decks can hypothetically focus everything to target down a weak player similarly, yet rarely if ever are they judged by this metric.
>>98750305>I think for Voltron, the bracket system should be defined by how quickly they can deal 63 commander damage>let's see this voltron has a 30% of killing everyone uninterrupted on t6>is 30% good enough? what about 35%? what about 20% instead? 10%?yeah good luck with that
>>98750304Wtf? Avacyn is back and she's black mana now?
>>98750312What the fuck are you talking about?
>>98750319please define what 'quickly' and 'consistently' even means you dolt, give me hard data not feelings
>>98750321>what you mean by quicklyWell you see, there's this concept called a "turn count..."
>>98750289Thanks anon but we're on /tg/. This is the place for arguing. I don't really care if I get (you)s. I just blogpost anyway. Helps me rationalize how I'm building my next deck. Where the hell else am I gonna post, Reddit?
>>98750328yeah and tifa kills you accordingly when she can depending on the fetches she gets, no tears if she kills you t3 i suppose? she can't exactly 'spread out' her damage to each opponent like retard you know
>>98750339>no tears if she kills you t3 i suppose?Sure.Just take that to a bracket 4 table.
>>98749982>buying cardsLol what? The only thing I crack is your mom after I finish using her printer.
>>98750339>she can't exactly 'spread out' her damage to each opponent like retard you knowt. Threadshitter who spends every other thread going "Mono green waifu numbah wun kills the whole table so good mmmmmmmmmmmm I want to have sex."
>>98750343>tifa is automatic bracket 4 materialok buddy have fun with your timmy pod
>>98750304Pretend I just repeated your post but included an image of Reanimate here.Sometimes you evaluate cards based on the ceiling rather than the floor. Giving all your creatures indestructible that synergizes with sac outlets and also retriggers ETB effects is a pretty high ceiling.Do you also think OG Avacyn is shit because exile exists?
>>98750355One of us has to actually play the game.
>>98750369you and i just play different games frennever leave your basement
It's easy not to die to Tifa
>>98750383Yes.
>>98750294It hasn't happened to me but I have witnessed some mild arguments because someone's deck had killed a player in b2. It wasn't voltron per se, it was ragga dragga>>98750305>>98750079Honestly I think this could be fixed by removing the "or loses" for the turn sentence
>>98750374>never leave your basementThis coming from the guy who can't think of anything to talk about in the EDH threads other than "waa waa Rhystic Study no fair pls ban, unban Primetime because I pwomise I won't be degen, if you don't like Star Trek UB you're a tranny, Tifa is so OP (wait... brackets? Uhm, no she isn't!), (ffx Inspiring Call), "this didn't happen btw," squirrels are still cute chungus right guys?"
>>98750388love it when you admit that you live itt 24/7 that you've confused me with different people
>>98750387>Honestly I think this could be fixed by removing the "or loses" for the turn sentencecorrect and currently for the sake of practicality and logistics (do LGSs really want the resident judge to be bogged down by nonsense whining) it's ignored
>>98750161>running based cards and sullying them with a random mana drain>cyc rift>ancient tomb>URZAWe do not grant you the rank of master
>>98750392You're not clever nor quirky dude
>>98750419>commander player running Magic cards in Magic>AIIEEE SHELDON SAVE ME
>>98750089>Only 1 color can stop thoracle Every color has access to torpor orb or temple bell
>>98750448colorless is not a color though, just saying
>>98750419Forgive me anon. My optimization brain takes over and I can't keep myself from running slop when I'm brewing. In bracket 2 the deck would look somewhat different, but I never build for bracket 2 except with my ironic decks. Bracket 3 is the sweet spot for my personal enjoyment. I actuallly like having those 3 "flex slots" for game changers, even if I'd rather see half the game changers flat-out banned for gameplay health.I wish GCs were strict instead of loose, though. The list needs to be bigger not smaller. Urza should still 100% be a game changer. Mana Drain is also not one. There's a ton of power cards that should have a home, simply for the sake of bottlenecking deckbuilding at every bracket below 4.Icetill Explorer, for example, isn't an obscene card. But the value it represents just makes it a no-brainer card in any green deck with fetches. In casual play it's borderline oppressive. It can create "accidental MLD" in the form of Strip Mine loops.That's just my fantasy, though. I know WotC is lazy and loves minimizing upkeep because they think the average EDH player is pre Cro-magnon on the evolutionary chain.
>>98750454Okay.Black and white can cause other players to draw cards.Red has blue specific counter spells, and white has counters spells as well.The only color that might struggle dealing with it is mono green.
>>98750464>they think the average EDH player is pre Cro-magnon on the evolutionary chain.They're right.
>>98750398Hence the criticism. I think rules should be stone clad and not open to interpretation. Lest you have retards be "technically correct". This is wheel of potential all over again
>my small town FINALLY opened an LGS after me being a Magic player for years>go in after about a month of them being open when I finally got a free weekend >walk in>smells like B.O.>tranny at one of the tablesI'm... I'm tired boss...
>>98750481They probably are but you can't let those players stay that way. You have to beat them with sticks until they evolve. WotC's constant effort at leaving things frictionless also leaves new players afraid of friction, thus they end up with smooth brains and smooth-brained takes.See: /r/EDH where you can spike your cortisol levels just reading about people's opinions on the game.
I don't really think about brackets cuz shit's casual.I build decks to be as good as I can afford and that usually means it can vacillate between 2 and 3. There's some high tier cards, but the inherent luck needed means more games will drag than instantly end, so generally it's cool.If some faggot autist gets uppity there are two tools to overcome that: your sideboard and/or your middle finger.
>>98749461Hello there
>>98750504>brackets are casual>also all the decks I build are brackets 2-3 and that's the best I can put together on a budgetPoor AND bad at deckbuilding?
Can we admit it already? He's kino.
>>98750512>combo slop in the command zoneI will be focusing you
>>98750515I do not run combos anon. As they homogenize the experience of playing the deck and end in either Tutor hunting, or draw manipulation into the same exact wincon over and over. Combos are boring
>>98749766I thought that was a given
I finally got the 5 color artifact slop commander I have been asking for but I'm just not all that happy about it. I was a fool.
>>98750526>I do not run combos anonno one will believe youjust like how i don't believe dimir players who insist they don't have thoracle in their b3 deck
>>98750526>token slop in the command zoneI'm board wiping you
Any new tech for my birds? I haven't played in a while.https://moxfield.com/decks/5dRj66uKmEWqwbfugITiHA
>>98750512>Squirrels are quirk chungus right guys?
>>98750551That's fine, I have a Bastion of Rememberance and a Blood Artist
>>98750544>draws up to 5 cards>can blink it>can do cute shit like burnt offering for 10 manaI'm not into 5c slop myself, what did you want anon?
>>98749556>missed it because I was asleepDamn...
>>98750586I was hoping for some goofy sunburst garbage but I got a powerful card instead.
>>98750544How is Karn back?
>>98750601He never died?
>>98750553>BLB was 2 years ago
>>98750594>I wanted something bad and cute but I got it good and generic insteadI understand the sentimentMy autism pet peeve is mono U urza. Love the guy, the freecast ability on top is too much. Not that it would be a bad card without it tho
>>98749474Duel Commander is objectively superior to 1v1v1v1
>>98749766that's a myth
>>98750603He got OILED
>>98749766In a best of one yes. But when you know what combos a person's deck is assembling, and the rest of the table isn't fucking stupid about threat assessment, they're plenty fun. Most of EDH's problems comes from the Bo1 aspect.
>>98750642This one is fine because it's flavorful, expensive, and takes clear obvious set up
>>98750607
>>98750658YesYES, exactly You get it
>>98749766There's a lot of boring wincons in EDH that aren't just combo.>I couldn't figure out a wincon to this deck so I just put in Lab Man/Approach/Breach the Multiverse/Heliod+Ballista/Blood+Bond/Dualcaster+Twinflame/Emrakul/...Yeah bro that's really cool that you self-reported you couldn't be bothered to find a wincon in white weenies that actually makes use of the fact you're playing white weenies.
I want to build a deck where I can cast cards like Decree of Annihilation, Apocalypse and Jokulhaups and then win after I blew everything up. I tried it with Abdel Adrian/Tavern Brawler and it was decent, but exceptionally boring to play with all the blink value town triggers. I've looked through every commander with red in it and settled on the old classic OG Jhoira as the best option for my MLD needs, unless someone has a better suggestion. How is Jhoira these days? Do people still fear her like they do with Kaalia?
>>98750601>>98750316This man fell asleep for a year and woke up five minutes ago.
>>98750681>KaaliaI cast Lightning Bolt
>>98750687That's true that I haven't played in a while. Our pod kinda fell apart irl.
>>98750681the problem is that if the jhoira playing is losing the temptation to just boardwipe everyone's lands just to grief is always on the table and no matter how much one insists that they're 'not like other players'
>>98749982
>>98750498Unfortunately if you want it to stay you gotta just deal with it and buy from them, otherwise its not gonna last
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>>98750677>play Mardu Vamp tribal>don't play Blood + Bond + Tribute + Cliffhaven In what world?
>>98750688Yeah I brought her up because people still act like she's good and kill her on sight but she's actually bad in the current meta
>>98750617It saddens me to hear that you too have been the victim of wotcs design practices. At least we still have our dreams.
>>98750165I run this on my Tannuk commander deck. So much fun but it's an auto archnemesis deck
>>98750712
>>98750725>it's an auto archnemesis deckthat's the cost of playing commanders that are known to have notorious reputations/be combo pieces/be cheat engines
>>98750712I liek this one
>>98750726This thing is dogshit
>>98750681>Do people still fear her like they do with Kaalia?Why wouldn't they? You yourself want to cast her then suspend a bunch of MLD. Why wouldn't someone who gives her the benefit of the doubt for a rotation only do so once?
>>98750726I like how this card was so poorly-designed it caused them to backpedal on their original policy of making stax pieces asymmetrical.
>>98750707MLD is the reason I want to play the deck, and I'm a hard-core griefer, so Jhoira seems like the girl for me. Thanks anon.
>>98750735So it's best to cast her only when I have the mana to suspend all my fun bullshit on the same turn. Ok I guess it's best to build her as an izzet control deck.
>>98750732With the amount of "cast from exile" cards that WotC has been vomiting, you've shown yourself a moron and your post, bait.
white is the most oppressed color and it's not even close
>>98750712Ok>>98750732He's busted and seethe inducing, especially if you have Mother and Giver of Runes out.>>98750736I wish they didn't give him the 2010s LA millenial hipster hair/beard combo, but apart from the art, it's a great card
>>98750737as long as it's B4 (with the idea that people aren't just using that bracket as cedh-lite, which happens more often than you think) jhoira's fine
>>98750712White is busted these days honestly
>>98750712The defining card of bracket 3
>>98750712Singlehandedly wrecks all graveyard bullshit decks
>>98750769I hate this card because it's poweful but boring.
>>98750712RIP spellslinger and storm
>>98750712GOAT single targeted creature removal spell.
>>98750712Gets a turn 1 Sol Ringigger seething like you wouldn't even believe
>>98750712>shuts down your combo turn bullshit victory attempt>rams through my combo turn bullshit victory
>>98750712>only 2 mana
>>98750818>implying my combo wont be cast at instant speed in response
>>98750712Tutorfags stay seething
>>98750712>counterspell on a creatureI love how with Karmic Guide + Reveillark combo you can just bounce everyone's spells and effectively win the game by locking them out.
>>98750806Awesome
>>98750791Yup. I love how white for basically 1-3 mana has cards that will pretty much wreck every archetype. I might make an enchantress w/g deck with all of them. Gaddock Teeg my boy!
>>98750831>LOL. I always have it.
>>98750851Selesnya Sythis enchantress stax is so good but so boring. New green Pia almost inspired me to rebuild my Sythis deck but then I remembered how boring it always is no matter how I build it. Could try it again, because I want to use my Elephant Grass.
>>98750712>>98750851White is right. Simple as.
>>987507121 mana delete any red creature deck from the game. They cannot play through this shit and they can't kill it cause lolenchantment.
>>98750601He got better.
>>98750706Karn never fully turned, and left New Phyrexia for a bit. Norn took over New Phyrexia, corrupted a tree, invaded the multiverse, and Karn killed her, un-Norning everyone who got oiled (stop asking questions). The results desparked a lot of walkers, and opened up gateways between planes called the Omenpaths.Jace and Vraska also got Norned. They got better. Jace and Vraska made a plan to remake the multiverse without Phyrexia, the Eldrazi, and a bunch of other problems. Vraska dipped out, Jace continued even though the plan made no sense, and made the Echoverse. The Echoverse is the multiverse but also not. The black Avacyn, the gold Karn, the Jeskai Vraska, etc etc are all from that. Don't get attached to the characters, because the Echoverse being real would somehow kill everyone in the multiverse, so Vraska and the Lorwyn five gang all team up to (successfully) kill Jace, while his daughter-but-also-tranny-self Tam frees Emrakul who eats the Echoverse almost as soon as it was tangible. Also Bolas is free again.
Do you have an infect deck, /edh/? Does it draw groans and get you targeted, or have had luck playing it and actually won?
Getting so tired of fun games being ruined board wipes lads
>>98750977>counterspells bad>removal bad>boardwipes bad>stax bad>land destruction bad>card draw bad>game winning combos bad>aggro that wins by turn 4 bad>boardwipes badWhat will you weenies complain about next? Maybe Magic simply isn't the game for you?
>>98750967I used to, but monoblack/artifact infact is too slow
>>98750977>Oh no! Someone ruined my precons mana/card draw engine in one card board setup and me spending 10 minutes a turn to get there over the past 5 turnsYou deserve it. Play better decks. Stop netdecking. Skill issue. If you don't I will...>untap>upkeep>board wipe
Seeing all the marvelsloppa sit unsold at costco and secret lair gives me hope for this format and its community
>>98750991I've never complained about any of those except board wipes and my msin complaint is how they are used to "reset the board" rather than using them corectly.
