Archives & Other Resources: https://rentry.co/cyoagAllsync: https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3Previous thread: >>98753068>TQWhen you picture your builds, is there a color scheme you tend towards?
>>98758066I really really like this cyoa. It'd be somewhere in my top 10 probably.
>>98758066>When you picture your builds, is there a color scheme you tend towards?Pink, its so epic
>>98758066Not really, it depends on the build
>>98758066I often lean towards Golden color schemes for my builds
>>98758066Color scheme? Not specifically unless the build is tied to a unique element with a specific color or something. I do usually get character art for the build's appearance though, as I don't always imagine staying the same I am in real life in many of them, especially in cases like CC's deviated form drawback, where it's demanded. Though "myself but gigachad" is a staple anyway.
https://imgchest.com/p/na7konjjwy8Everyone should post their builds at once
>>98758126Best weapon?
Most useless companion (besides Ono, the greatest jobber)? Hakuma? Fang?
>>98758146Saika Ikki's Last Memory>>98758155Chimako
>>98758146Colt Single Action Army.
>>98758126>RaceShapeshifter>PotentialTalented>ScenarioAge of Truth-Satya Yuga>ConscriptionBeast Hunter>Home TerritoryThe Border Wilds>Benevolent AlterationsSacred FountainLimitless Meridians Perennial Lotus Signature TechniqueAnimal Blood (Prey’s Reflexes, Lion’s Appetite)>Malignant AlterationsHellfire Debt>Ambivalent Alteration Prodigy + Magmatic>Aura SystemVast Generalist>Recovery DispositionNutrition (x2)>Aura Affinities Core G3Phase G3Flow G3Alchemy G3>TrainingTechnique Artistry- Legend>Release TechniquesSense Aura (free)Body Enhancement (free)Animal Form (Eagle) (Free)Mythic Beast (Signature Technique: Legendary Dragon) (Free)Illumination of the Heart>EquipmentWeighted StrapsTurtle Shell Dwelling>CompanionsNiwamaruFumieMai, Fourth Golden Sage-Romance>RivalsOnoKatsumiFang Wenyan>FactionsNew Sect (The Border Wilds): Income (Beast Hunting), Specialists, Secrets (Special Advantage)-My own hunting lodge faction>CampaignsTechnique CollectionFiller ArcTreasure Bugs Greyflesh CullingChimera BurrowsSecond ExtinctionArena Deathmatches (Chimera Fights Only)The Big KillsThe Oppression of the Abyss
>>98758066>When you picture your builds, is there a color scheme you tend towards?White. I like the high contrast, and I like the vibe of classical statues.After that, gray or brown.
>>98758182Update: Switched Yomi for Niwamaru and updated campaigns to better reflect the orderSo I have been wanting to make a shapeshifter build that takes Mythic Beast as a Signature Technique so that I can out Monster the Monsters as a beast hunter. My mythic beast form is a kaiju sized multiheaded dragon (a bit like King Ghidorah but not a wyvern), with all sorts of goodies like redundant organs, powerful senses, and nigh invulnerable scales. For the special bonus I would obviously choose the breath attack if it’s limited to one, but I think Signature Technique might let me get more. My recovery disposition is usable in combat and one of my strategies will be to literally devour my enemies. Outside of Mythic Beast my build is a bit bare as I am somewhat Potentialmaning here but I did take Illumination of the Heart as finding legendary’s in the wild is hard and I will need it when I face down the Abyss Lords (any decent Lovecraft monster has mental stuff). I also have a good team with a strong set of powers I will be learning from and vice versa, as well as a faction that has secrets. Technique Artistry is also relevant here as it enables me to teach other people techniques easier, and my sect is eagerly waiting for the Aura Burst. Not for me but the most important Technique for my companions and sect to learn will be Inhuman Evolution (big part of taking Fumie) so that my Monster Hunting team can all have monster forms as it changes the tactics of the whole thing significantly. Made sure not to piss off any other factions as I really want to stay PVE against monsters (and be loved by everyone) and not mess with the true nightmare PVP of the city (and King Yama can fuck off with his need for “Muscle”).
>>98758182Middle head is slacking
>>98758155Fang is quite strong.
>>98758155Junko (the whole combo makes her a wash one way or another)
>>98758193He's obviously delivering villainous monologue while the other heads fire.
>>98758146Gunbai no kamikaze>>98758169>Saika Ikki's Last Memorykinda overrated if you have already trainers
>>98758190>Switched Yomi for Niwamaru both are peaks, and above Fumie
>>98758208>one single release>not even legendary
>>98758217I am Magmatic which forces me to do brooding Vergil type monologues
What are some fun powers for a sort of dark lord/cosmic being cyoa?
>>98758183God is… le Dove??
>>98758213Yes, but she's a chief overseer at least. The police rank at least does something.
>>98758233God likes birds. Some say God likes birds more than people.
>>98758213Junko has the second strongest attack in the cyoa and her combo is about trapping people, she is not the most jobber.The real answer is Faye, her only wincon is a disguise, nothing more. If the enemy notices the disguise she is losing. Or if the enemy reacts to the surprise attack, she is losing.She is trying to make a stealth build like a phase/ninokata ninja but all she has is disguising herself and not superspeed or super deadly attacks.
>>98758230noble commandment has versatility and defeats a lot of people without protection from hax.
>>98758230It is a lot of powers in one, it is also implied that he unlocked even more commands than offered to you.Also, if you are in range, don't have Illumination of the Heart or can speedblitz him, you are screwed.
>>98758222Yea but Fumie knows Inhuman Evolution which I want everyone on my team to learn, and Panacea Specialist is such an amazing support ability for my whole faction as beast hunters (they even say stocking up on medicine is important for them). I would have liked a full set of core specialists that could learn from each other and Ronin's eyes is crazy but I had to make a call.
>>98758233Holy Spirit is (It's literally canon)
>>98758256>Fumie knows Inhuman EvolutionI dont know if she can even teach it. Given her version of it, its literally being possessed by a spirit that hates her. Her version is kinda artificial and dangerous.
Technology > Magic
>>98758268I have considered that but it's like saying Mai won't be able to help because she is too busy at her job. I am assuming a bit of narrative fiat that seems implied by all the choices offered.
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>>98758240>>98758244My point is that she is effectively useless. Definitely not a "Jobber" but she doesn't add any value as a companion.
>>98758126boo>RaceYokai>PotentialMutated>ScenarioAge Of TruthAge Of TrigramAge Of DyadAge Of Conflict>ConscriptionInstitute Apprentice>LocationFeudal Spirit Châteaus>Benevolent AlterationsSacred FountainEccentric (Magmatic)ProdigySpirit Blood (Craved, Sullied)>Malevolent AlterationsAge Disjunction (Younger)FanserviceHellfire DebtOld Grudges>Aura SystemVast Specialist>Recovery DispositionNutritionLove>AffinitiesCore G0Phase G1Flow G3Alchemy G3>TrainingsScholarship Legendary (Science, Medicine, Engineering)>Release TechniquesSense AuraBody EnhancementAura DrainingPerennial Vegetation ConductionFae Spore ConductionTwisted Flesh ConductionMind SplittingOmnipotent Synchronicity Of The ElementsLegend Status: Encompassing World Avatar>EquipmentQuicksilver Immortality Pills>FactionsRed Demon Clan (Nemesis)Hair Tribe (Nemesis)Jihao (Nemesis)>New Sect (Xanadu)Feudal Spirit ChateausLuxurySpecialistsSecrets (Special Advantage)>CampaignsVisitations to the Mortal WorldFiller ArcTechnique CollectionGhost at the PartyFinal ExamField StudyNight of Lantern BugsRuin RaiderThe Jade Sovereign's Orthodoxy>RelationshipsOno (Rival)Jawbone (Rival)Kansuke (Rival)This time it's all about flow, combining flora, fauna and fungi to become a master lifeweaver. On top of being able to combine my conductions with extreme skill and efficiency, I can make super powerful vessels I can then inhabit with mind-splitting. I do also have a bunch of enemies but they can't really hurt me for the most part (barring a few exceptions I need to watch out for). I will have to work towards a method of true soul immortality however.
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>>98758288Mai has her companion description talk about how she helps, and its not like having a job stops you from doing anything else.In the case of Fumie its literally a power coming from an external source that she can't even control on her own, let alone teach.
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>>98758244Faye is not for battle use, she's for sneaky and social bullshit.
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>>98758222>>98758268I will think about it anons. I also forgot to change my animal form to a small Dragon (different from my mythic beast one) since I realized Chimako is able to do that.
>>98758314>Chief "police" woman>Trapping buildNot useless. There are more useless companions. Her job offers power itself, and she is obviously not beyond helping you by being corrupt.And she has good techniques to trap people.Compare her with Faye, who offers a below average stealth assassination build other companions do better
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>>98758288I don't think there's any clear narrative fiat on the topic of whether or not all the companions can easily teach you the techniques they know.Inhuman evolution is especially weird about this, not really because of Fumie's spirit, but because it's a technique that everyone learns very differently.
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>>98758288The description of "Companions" explicitly tells you they'll join and help you. No one is locked on a job 24/7 (ar least not in the CYOA)
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>>98758391>no imageno soulThe pngs are windows to the soul, the ancients know to tell us.
>>98758126====================== Spirit Conscript"The Paper Soldier">Body: Yokai>Potential: OP +60ap +24ep>Scenario: Kali Yuga>Conscription: Insurgent +32ep>Home: Limbo>Benevolent Alterations: Harem Mode +59apMystic BeautyCharismatic +57apEccentric +63apProdigy +65apSpirit Blood-Craved/Sullied>Malignant Alterations: Memory TamperingKarmic Outlaw +72apTrouble magnet +77apMagmatic +78apKlutz +83apFan Service +87ap>Ambivalent Alteration: Old GrudgesHard training>Aura System: Shallow Specialist +92ap>Recovery Disposition: Love>Aura Affinities: Alchemy G3 +89apFlow G1Core G0 +90apPhase G0 +91ap>Training: Technique Artistry, LegendTactics, LegendCultivation, MasterCeremony, MasterWeaponry, Master, Explosives+Acrobatics, MasterAthletics, MasterScholarship, Legend +85ap-PHD Science/EngineeringTinkering, Legend +77ap>Basic Release: Sense AuraAura DrainingAbiding Flesh *Soul Urn +73apVoid p-sigil *Watching p-sigil *Binding p-sigil +68apWarding p-sigil +63apEmitting p-sigil +59apSignal p-sigil +55apOrigami Servant +49ap>Greater Release: Demon Cult *Emergent Origami *Mind Splitting *Soul-Shattering Howl +42apBursting p-sigil +35apPuppeteering p-sigil +28apListening p-sigil +21apHypnotic p-sigil +14ap>Legendary Release: Vessel Transfer +4apLegend Status, Universal Sovereign -11ap>Equipment: Haunted Smoke Bombs +29epLockpicks +27ep>Factions: The Shinobi Dynasty, Nemesis -10apThe Hellion Mob, Nemesis -9apThe Six-Finger Mafia, Nemesis -8apThe House of Catacombs, FriendThe Lunar Church, Foe>Campaigns: POI, The Last SonPOI, The Tenth MagistratePOI, The Fourth MagistrateRevolt on The SumitRegicide>Relationships: Jawbone, Rival (Romantic) -5apFang, Rival (Romantic) -2apKansuke, Rival (Romantic) +1apRiku, Romantic +0apWomen (Many), Romantic +0ep======================>all these points>still not enough>never enough>I shall cry myself to sleep in the arms of my division of Lovers
>>98758340Just shut up anon.
>>98758280Magic and technology are one and the same and you’re retarded for thinking otherwise. That you think a wizard isn’t a technologist is hilarious to me. It’s as though you think magic has no system or mechanism to itself. Retarded assumption.
>>98758421Is it actually Matterfag or merely an imposter...
>>98758426>only one person thinks critically Common sense ain’t so common
>>98758421knock it off babe, this is spirit conscript time.
You can’t beat Bell You can’t beat OrstedYou can’t beat Dumbledore
>>98758421They're not :)
>>98758431Nope it isn't. Now please go into the nearest hole and die.
>>98758280The author said he’d update this eventually BUT CLEARLY HE LIED, THE SON OF A BITCH, FUCK HIM
>>98758441Orsted isn't even the final boss of mushoku tensei, why aren't you obsessing over hitogami instead
>>98758442Cute how you think a wizard doesn’t live inside a tower orrery filled with strange and arcane gadgetry. :^)
>>98758448Orsted threatens anon’s status as sole hero of the story. The end boss is not the true threat. Only the glory matters. It will not be shared.
>>98758448Hitogami is a good characterOrsted is not (he is too cringe for me)Therefore Orsted has to die
>>98758465Orsted doesn't take any sort of heroic role in the story though, that would be rudeus
>>98758441Don’t you mean ottar rather than bell
>>98758471Chaosfag... You have truly fallen into the abyss...
>>98758472>Orsted doesn't take any sort of heroic role in the story though, that would be rudeusYou really don’t know? Huh.
>the evil god is cool, the hero is lame and gay, therefore the evil god deserves to winBrilliant
Humans thrive on aura and they’ll happily let the world end as long as it looks cool…
>>98758496>Humans thrive on auraOnly if you play Spirit Conscript
>Orsted is the original MCLol, I didn't know this, holy shit anons are insecure. The way people talk about him I assumed he was like the leader of an evil faction that couldn't possibly be ignored or something.
>>98758415are you mad at me
>>98758498>Everyone aurafarms on yondu
>>98758510Literally
>>98758471If hitogami wins, everyone dies except him
I'm literally being tormented by the Demiurge. I'm not exaggerating. I'm not joking.
>>98758509yes but I will forgive you if you let me plap plap you and have my kids.
>>98758509Yes; anons who deny their builds souls are cruel. A build deserves a soul.
Orsted is canonically a virgin LOL LMAO KEKEKEK
>>98758522And? At least Orsted dies. >>98758527The Demiurge loves you.
>>98758522He's imagining himself as hitogami. You aren't getting to him like that.
Hitogami is unironically a cutie patootie and I’d do it for him <3
>>98758541So? You should be inserting into him, not hate him... wait, do you hate yourself as well?
>>98758561Damn, you're right, Hitogami is actually just like Softie...
>you should be inserting yourself into your enemyis this what leftists mean when they say "if you kill your enemy, your enemy wins"
>the human god is a huge dick and made the other gods kill themselvesIs a lot cooler than>the original human god was killed and replaced by some alien imposter
>>98758573And yet they're both true. And he wants to kill you too.
>>98758571If you orgasm inside your enemy, you win automatically, though.
>>98758581too bad your enemy is just going to kill you
>>98758581You need to be 18+ to post here.
I wonder what Doctor Aki's favorite anime is.
>>98758604she's a 70 year old nerd, she probably likes that weird not-classical music from the early 20th century and reading books
>>98758611((you)) could be the smuggler to make gorillions from bootlegging anime from the mortal world
The gayest part about Mushoku Tensei is that humans “were the first to start civilization”, not the dragons or the demons or anyone else. Humanity FUCK yeah…
>>98758618yeah and one of my builds did that, it's easy as fuck but what am i going to do with money that only dumb mortals care about
>>98758604too old for anime, but our kids will love it
>>98758564If I tried pleasuring myself by inserting into myself I’d very quickly break my spine.
>>98758621yeah what kind of hecking chud could come up with that!?
>>98758625You dont need to go all the way around your back retard
>>98758621You are distressed and angry. And you act under a compulsion that brings you to places that you hate, causing you to become more distressed and angry. But by an act of will you can stop this anytime. Imagine this like someone shaking you a lot, except it's you yourself who does the shaking, and suddenly you're out of the rut you were in. Why not spend those precious hours of your life somewhere you actually want to be? It doesn't even have to be on the internet. You can go outside. Take a 4 hour walk, feels good. Play an old DOS game you haven't played for ages. Try and cook a dish. Pick up and read a book you once considered interesting but postponed.
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HUMANS ARE NOT AWESOME FUCK OFF
>>98758648No.
>>98758665actually we're more awesome than your kind
>>98758126I have hit 70 aura.
>>98758126>+50 plus pagesBrevity is the soul of wit.
>>98758688Post
>>98758690reading is the foundation of knowledge
>>98758621Of all the things to complain about? This feels fine. The typical elder races like the elves are (afaik) actually a demon race evolution/formed later. And it seems reasonable that the humans would develop civilization/have their civilization advance faster than the demons and dragons. Humans are the weakest race, they NEED civilization to survive nature, other races dont as much, there would have been less "evolutionary pressure" for them to develop all these things as quickly because they can just fistfight a bear, rather than needing a small militia to form to go protect themselves from the bear.
>>98758126Noriko managed to learn 3 basic-great techniques in months while also sightseeing. Potential men OP
>>98758703bro her techniques are about lenses and light, of course she was sightseeing while learning them
>>98758126The silliest build idea: zero aura cost techs only.
>>98758714Do this one: you only get to use techniques whose names end with "of the heart".
>>98758688Genuinely retarded.
>>98758695According to Socrates made you dumber and more forgetful. Thousands of years later, a famous physicist by the name of Albert Einstein had the bright idea of not bothering to remember anything if it was already written down somewhere. This is why he always forgot where he was going when he went on the train, since his destination was printed on the ticket. He did not care to memorize things one could simply look at. All he cared about was pondering about physics absentmindedly. Funny how intellectuals differ, eh? Socrates was more right regarding AI and screens and the internet, and the superficial, depthless understanding it affords. He was worried about cognitive offloading, but it wasn’t books or writing that he should have been afraid of, it was the goddamned amenities of the future!
>>98758694Anon is going to make fun of me.
>>98758722is this the cope you came up with when you forgot what you needed to shop for and hadn't written down a list, lmao
>>98758695>>98758722According to Socrates reading and writing* made you dumber and more forgetful.
>>98758722>words words wordsBrevity is the soul of wit.
>>98758737You’re a zoomer. You can’t sit still for more than twenty seconds. You aren’t even human. You’re more robot than man.
>>98758126Man this cyoa sucks ass, I'm already out of points before even picking a single power...
>>98758757sasuga anon, you truly never fail to amaze
>>98758318>external sourceYea but it isn't some unknown innate thing that can't be learned. However it might be more accurate to say Tanin-onryo can teach it to us not Fumie, which definitely makes it harder but not impossible.>>98758340>everyone learns very differentlyYou get to design custom forms, that doesn't mean learning the ability itself is different for everyone. I imagine it like a base ability that you program to your needs. Still I can see that it may not be easy to teach and lore is that there are a TON of shapeshifting abilities out there so I shouldn't be considering it the end all for non-shapeshifters.Alright anons you have convinced me as I was already extremely torn on who to drop for Niwamaru (who really is an amazing addition the more I think about it). Don't want to spam my build and its basically done but I might post it one more time in the next thread or two.
>anons are now all pivoting to pick the literal worst companion just because she's also a dumbass autist like they arecomedy gold
>>98758126>>98758757Limitless Meridians, a Vast Aura System and G3 affinities put us firmly in the elite of the elite in this setting and yet from a balancing perspective it feels more like a Tax than a choice and there is very little build diversity as a result.
>>98758800It's a tax but you also get an anti-tax
>>98758797>literal worst companionI don't see people picking Ono?
>>98758797>literal worst companionCome on wronganon, you need to at least try and make an argument that someone might plausibly believe and trigger us into arguing. Next time say she is "suboptimal" or "overrated" not the literal worst.
>>98758801What's an anti-tax?
If we ever go for another Spirit Conscript MP, let's ban Limitless Meridians. Everything for build variety.
>>98758825>>>/mcyoag/
>>98758823It's when you get a fuckton of points and free stuff for no reason even though you're a shitter
>>98758825I agree, but I don't multiplayer
>>98758830but hwat scenario????
>>98758843What if there was no scenario?
>>98758847?????
>>98758855??????
>>98758825>>98758830Yea we can't nerf ourselves without becoming like /mcyoag/ but if PCA ever updated SC and removed it I would defend the decision from the inevitable whiners. I would also suggest that he split up the aura system into parts as currently it determines Starting Aura, Aura Regen, AND Affinity. Anons might optimize with a lesser aura system if it was only one of those things but with all three everyone just takes Vast.
>>98758837Thank you for the definition. And yea that is why I said we are "the elite of the elite", we get a boatload of stuff.
Anon berates softies build because they FEAR the potential one summonerfag could have if he dedicated 60 aura to a summon.
I think there should have been a third type of currency in spirit conscrpit. Call them circumstance points. With circumstance points you could buy the aura burst and fairy star as expensive options, or you could get factions or companions as somewhat cheaper options. So that the really good aura burst wasn't always a thing in each build, and relieving some pressure off the buildmaking.
>>98758891gato sex
>>98758891Post the build first instead of just larping your humiliation fetish, I want to berate the build for real
>>98758891jobs to the moon.
>>98758315Saint of GASSES, huh? Flatulent Spirit Shateaus? Kind of messed up, I think.
>>98758922hungry man thinks of bread
>>98758510Yondu ain't happy about that either. Dude just wants to whistle Dixie.
>>98758933If farts sated, I'd be doing this to you
>>98758695verbal diarrhea is the foundation of really long cyoas.
>>98758898Spirit Conscript is the perfect example of how different currencies can drastically effect a cyoa. Good and bad. PCA made Overpowered in response to feedback on the Potential section but all it really amounted to was people hated Practiced and Conditioned because they had so few of the Benevolent Alternation points which are BY FAR the most valuable (and Mutated is really dubious compared to Talented).
>>98758898>fairy starNot worth spending points on, its a trap option.
>>98758974It could of course be presented more favorably to you, like you get a hint of where it'll appear before anyone else does or something.
>>98758891Meowscarada my beloved... Beyond that though to be honest even 40 spirit subjugation empowerment is probably enough to take on a trigram member, 60 is just really funny overkill for beating everybody, and most of the time I wont need to dedicate more than like 10 to beat something if push come to shove. I just like having lots of energy.
>>98758994>spirit subjugation empowerment is probably enough to take on a trigram memberDoes he know?
>>98758825swapping out limitless meridians for prodigy and two g3s for a g1 and g0 is perfectly one more full meridian expansion anyway
>>98758126Weapon with Collapsing Star and Surging Vortex absorbs all and any energy type, even sunlight.2 questions.1. If it absorbs light, then the weapon becomes invinsible, black or we ignore this and see it stays visually the same?2. If you put the weapon with this technique above someone, can they even remove it? After all, it absorbs all energies, if someone tries to grab it and move it should absorb that energy or pushing is fine but not punching somehow? Would this make the weapon the immovable object?
>>98759022nope
>>98759022He probably doesn't.>>9875899440-60 aura empowering spirits is just making a spirit still be weaker than the trigram.We are talking about the strongest spirits, they molest basically everything else.To defeat them you need talent, training, a hellish training, good amount of techniques, tactics and luck.Even people specially made to exorcist spirits being sent to exorcist them counts as "we don't like you, go die"
>>98759022>>98759050Uh no 40 definitely would be overkill. I talked with PCA :)
>>98759050No you don't understand. He already beats anyone at the great level before you count techniques just with his trainings and having a huge aura pool. He doesn't need techniques for normal opponents. He only condescends to use techniques if he needs to fight something like Vuseba or Yama. Otherwise there's just no point, he'd only be destroying the world with his impossible 60 aura for the sake of taking down some small fry.
>>98759066I definitely do need techniques being a squishy wizard.
>>98759066I am starting to wonder if its really him, because I didn't thought Dark Sovereign would overstimate himself that much.60 aura is less than the trigrams have in the first place, why would empowering a spirit with that amount be able to defeat them? Ignoring even the supreme techniques they should have. Aura scaling, they outclass 60 aura easily.
>>98759068No you don't. You have 60 aura and rebirth. It's literally impossible for you to die against normal opponents because you can regenerate from a single cell. You outsmarted the entire CYOA, the author, and everyone else who ever made a build. Your build is worth more than a thousand other builds. You're just that good.
>>98759041>1. If it absorbs light, then the weapon becomes invinsible, black or we ignore this and see it stays visually the same?I would say it looks the same but has a weird aura around it. Like hazy vapor.>2. If you put the weapon with this technique above someone, can they even remove it? After all, it absorbs all energies, if someone tries to grab it and move it should absorb that energy or pushing is fine but not punching somehow? Would this make the weapon the immovable object?Immovable, unbreakable item. Yes. We already have that in the cyoa so it's not like it breaks anything. Probably the user, by being the user, is the only one that can move it.
>>98758992That's not the problem. It monkey's paws you if you aren't "pure of heart" and no one here is. Even if we were it drastically limits the type of wish that would be possible as only a selfless wish would work. Also no one can use it after you do until you die so if you do wish on it everyone will be out to kill you. It's narratively fun for a more idealistic build like say a Magical Girl Anime where the conclusion of the series is saving the universe from the turning of the wheel, but pragmatically it's worthless.
>>98759081>regenerate from a single cellDon't do this anon. T. Anon with a Pure Body build that has Rebirth but ALSO is an Undead with Lich's Rattling Bones and Corpse Stitch
>>98759088nta but what needs to be pure is the wish, not the heart. Basically, any selfish wish gets monkey pawed.Which is why the only realistic use is to help other people or save the world, and you need to be pure about it and not just want to save or help your ass in some way.But there are a lot of good people in SC, or just raise a child with a head on their shoulders.Noriko in the companions section is a good example. "hey, can you wish for the world to not end? I dont want everyone to die">Also no one can use it after you do until you die so if you do wish on it everyone will be out to kill youI wonder how that type of information spreads.>but pragmatically it's worthless.yep, mainly because the time will arrive. If you dont pick it in the scenario section it means its not time of it yet. But eventually it will be.
>>98759088Anyone can make a pure wish. You just need the basic entry-level humility to do it. I can easily make a pure wish right now: "Make the world as it should be from the most ideal objective viewpoint." or "Please be kind to us all, any God that you may be, for we don't know what we're doing." or other stuff like that. The question is if you think you're more pure than the average shitter and can sneak in benefits for yourself. Are you a bad enough dude to take advantage of it? Or, a good enough dude, as it were.
>>98759078No it is me this time, let me ask you. >60 aura is less than the trigrams have in the first placeWe don't know this.>why would empowering a spirit with that amount be able to defeat them?Because the funny thing is when I talked with PCA, summons basically scale with the amount of aura you put into them, and the question came up of "could a spirit acolyte at 15 aura beat an angel summon, the things described as walking nuclear options in their own description. He answered yes, and that generally more aura = more good. Now, logically, if something that strong is only 15 aura, someone double that is going to be even even stronger. 40 aura is literally getting into the godlike range for summons, the funny thing is spirits with a high baseline would get even more powerful from spirit subjugation enhancement, since it's on top of their normal baseline. So yea, 40 aura is basically like that summoning FFXIV bahumut cutscene.Here's picrel, which I saved forom talking to pca a long while ago. Questions were:1. What are demons and angels, and why do Yama and Yudi seem to not control them?2. Could a 15 aura spirit acolyte beat or exceed an angel summon from summon rite agnelic avatars?3. Is origami comparable to summon rites, and what stopping someone from spending ridiculous amounts of aura (30+) on making super constructs with that or transmutation, and what kinds of things can you make with transmutation?Do with this information what you will, that's what PCA told me before the discord died, luckily I saved this screenshot.>>98759081Sorry wronganon I already changed that because my current build seemed more fun.4. With signature/special technique could you alter universal sovereign to keep your aura system after you die?
>>98759111>save the world, and you need to be pure about it and not just want to save or help your ass in some wayWhich is actually really tricky because the reason I want to save the world is I am in it lol. I actually have taken Noriko for this exact purpose though.
>>98759104that's literally what the little shit was arguing, that's his logic process, you were warned
>>98759126whoops I fucked up the formatting a little, 4. is at the bottom of the post for some reason.
>>98758941Brainpuppies!!!
>>98758477I imagine that chaosfag and Hitogami are a lot alike
>>98759126tok was making more sense than this when he was saying he naturally has 6 charm in mythic lands without buying it
>>98759128Well, thats your vision now. If you were there, with a wife, family, friends etc... I doubt you would still only think about yourself.But yes, Noriko seems ideal for it.
>>98759126Damn motherfucker pulled out receipts. I conceed softie.
>>98759154REMINDER THAT PENTAGRAMFAGS WILL BE PURGED WITH GREAT SEVERITY
>>98759126For number 4 I think a special would work and if PCA wants a downside it's that we aren't immortal and won't become a spirit when we die. Now the full implication of that IMO also means no infinite soul life span and vulnerability to soul attacks. Huge Downgrade IMO. I would rather just try and reach a new form of impermanence.
>>98759126>With signature/special technique could you alter universal sovereign to keep your aura system after you die?Theoretically. It would probably involve more than it just being automatic though. You'd need to hack a middle way between mortal reincarnation and spirit womb gestation, so that you're reborn as a reincarnated human while still having all your stuff. I rate it as plausible if you take BOTH special and signature at the same time with it, and the caveat that this is not to be done in multiplayer even if you somehow did it without an overpowered build.
>>98759126I dislike that this actually supports purebodyfags argument.
>>98758527Did you want to curse a holy anon?
>>98759160>>98759162I guess if you slice off infinite soul lifespan and just accept the repeated regeneration of your soul it might not need both special and signature. I included both in my version because you're not just keeping your memories, you're also skipping in line to be reborn immediately instead of waiting a billion years in the spirit womb. You kind of need to get rid of the downsides of both if you want the upsides of both.
>>98759162See I think that is how Core Impermanence would work if we figure it out. We have a completely invincible body that nothing including soul attacks can get through, but inside the soul is the same as it ever was and will eventually pass into reincarnation and will be rejuvenated in the next life, the trick is we reincarnate INTO our body which is why Legend Status is called a self-incarnation.
>>98759188if you're going with that logic you may get much better results from taking both core and alchemy legend statuses and only special technique for each of the two.
>>98759173Oh I wasn't implying you get to come back with special, just that you would die normally and experience reincarnation normally.
>>98759192The speculation isn't for the sake of a build. It's to describe what the technique would look like if we or the Jiahao figure it out ourselves using only Core.
>>98759126>We don't know this.My guy, the trigrams are the strongest spirits, ancient spirits that dominated every other spirit and received the most adoration.Do you really think that spirits that old and powerful are below 60 aura points?The weakest trigram member is the one that gave you that much aura in the first place. Think.>someone double that is going to be even even stronger. 40 aura is literally getting into the godlike range for summons, Angels are strong, but far from the trigram.Angels and demons are soldiers from youdi and yama.The top spirits is 1. Youdi, Yama2. Trigrambasically, all your argument is>Angel pretty strong>Lets put a lot of ==>More aura more good>Aaaaaah 40 aura a lot>Aaaaaah 60 aura a lot moreAnd assuming the most ancient and powerful spirits except the ones of literal death and life are below, somehow, 60 aura points. Despite one of those spirits giving you the 60 aura in the first place.Basically, you think Kofuko just created a being way stronger than himself with 0 tactic on it beyond bruteforcing aura.
>>98759163It only goes to show how stupid both of them are.
>>98759163I am purebodyfag, and I knew this beforehand.But I wasn't saying that just by putting Aura, 40-60 points, you can brute force into winning against the fucking trigram.That's beyond retarded. No build is going to just appear and surpass kofuko, our creator, right out of the gate. It's dumb.
>>98759202I like speculation. I still wonder what the other two affinities would be like. Or even aspeculative fift affinity such as one based on infromation (because so much divination and telepathy and shit is missing in the cyoa, it's easy to imagine such an affinity being created in the future, or having existed in the past).
>>98759078>doubting softies retardation
>>98759204>>98759220Hey, you can't handle the truth, not my fault. I will just say you're definitely heavily overestimating the trigram, they have been killed several times before. Plus, they would definitely not have an easy time against some of the other heavy hitter entities in the setting, like angels or abyss lords. But if you want to headcanon them as so strong they could destroy the city with a flick of their wrist and just haven't conquered and divided every inch because ??? like wronganon seems to think they are, be my guest I suppose.
>>98759224Definitely anon. I love the world building in this and the lore document even hinted that another type of Alchemy impermanence might be possible.
>>98759252>just haven't conquered and divided every inch because ??? They do that in the Age of Trigram
>>98759266It's more like they're just the most powerful forces in the city during that era, which is funny because other things like the majushin being the most powerful human sect and the closest to reaching true immortality and such are still completely canon if you just take that scenario. Honestly age of trigram seems perfect for my build, lots of strong spirits to capture and enslave.
>>98759279*age of trigram singularly
>>98759279>>98759284I would also like to put out that age of trigram is the single most damning anti-evidence against dokurokuro not being kofuko, as it says he's also taking part in all of the blood sacrifices and is one of the evil spirits doing evil things, which is definitely not the kind of vibe and schtick we get from kofuko.
>>98759279Don't be silly, you're far too godlike to limit yourself to only the age of trigram. If you only take the age of trigram, the spirits there won't have even a single percent of a chance to resist you, but there's also fewer of them around than there could be. You need to take the age of conflict to enslave even more spirits. Imagine if you wished on the fairy star to give you a thousand youdus worth of spirits. They still couldn't harm you after all, since you can regenerate from a single cell because you have 60 aura, but imagine how many more spirits you could enslave.
>>98756988Yeah, he does that a lot. There's like one or two guys just obsessed with me in trying to bait me every thread.
>>98759312
>>98759318
>anon relies on insanely overcharged summons against top tiers of the setting>instantly jobs to Infinite Inertia from Harmonious Restriction and Resplendent Ceremony or another form of cheating the tech's limitations.
>>98759296Kofuko did say he used to be more beloved among the undead than he is now. I could 100% believe that he's just retired and chilled out.
>>98759279You could try. I will say that the scenario implies the only way to have a chance against them at their height is to unshackle the wheel turning effigy and use it as a weapon against them, which requires unifying the clans and finding the other Key in mortal world. Your build would actually be pretty well positioned to do that but I mention it to point out that the Trigram, Yami, and Yudi are always mentioned as being so powerful that you need some sort of ace in the whole to even have a chance. I don't think your build works as described but I don't think it actually needs to. When you hit Youdo, you would be infused with legendary tactical knowledge, learn the real extent of your enemies powers and realize plan A wouldn't work.
>>98759312>one or two guys just obsessed with me Somebody post the meme
>>98759327Sorry buddy, but his unbeatable regeneration comes from rebirth and having 60 aura. He is literally immune to all of that. He cannot be killed even in theory. This is why all the spirits should be happy he's coming to enslave them.
>>98759331That's stupid. He has sixty aura. That's probably more than the effigy has. He just walks up to the effigy and subjugates it with spirit subjugation.
>>98758126>>98758315 I have altered the build.>RaceShapeshifter>PotentialMutated>ScenarioAge Of TruthAge Of TrigramAge Of DyadAge Of Conflict>ConscriptionInstitute Apprentice>LocationFeudal Spirit Châteaus>Benevolent AlterationsSacred FountainEccentric (Magmatic)ProdigyAnimal Blood (Parrot's Tongue, Lion's Appetite)>Malevolent AlterationsAge Disjunction (Younger)FanserviceHellfire DebtOld Grudges>Aura SystemVast Specialist>Recovery DispositionNutrition x2>AffinitiesCore G0Phase G1Flow G3Alchemy G3>TrainingsScholarship Legendary (Science, Medicine, Engineering)>Release TechniquesSense AuraBody EnhancementAnimal Form (Hummingbird)Perennial Vegetation ConductionFae Spore ConductionTwisted Flesh ConductionMind SplittingOmnipotent Synchronicity Of The ElementsLegend Status: Encompassing World Avatar>EquipmentQuicksilver Immortality Pills>FactionsRed Demon Clan (Nemesis)Hair Tribe (Nemesis)Jihao (Nemesis)>New Sect (Xanadu)Feudal Spirit ChateausLuxurySpecialistsSecrets (Special Advantage)>CampaignsVisitations to the Mortal WorldFiller ArcTechnique CollectionGhost at the PartyFinal ExamField StudyNight of Lantern BugsRuin RaiderThe Jade Sovereign's Orthodoxy>RelationshipsOno (Rival)Jawbone (Rival)Kansuke (Rival)Super druid time. On top of being able to combine my conductions with extreme skill and efficiency, I can make super powerful vessels I can then inhabit with mind-splitting. I do have a bunch of enemies but they can't really hurt me for the most part (barring a few exceptions I need to watch out for). I will have to work towards a method of true soul immortality however.Edited to become a Shapeshifter so I can get Parrot's Tongue for added flavour. Losing Aura Draining hurts but doubling up on Nutrition helps make up for it (Especially since I can just spawn food out of thin air and have a backup eat for me when needed). Also I swapped out the image for one that better represents my new form.
>>98759353i really appreciate you're making a normal build at least
>>98759329Yea, in the Lore Doc dokurokuro's aura scheme is described and it sounds a LOT like Kofoku. One way or another all the spirits are doing is setting up Aura ponzi schemes. They don't have to be malevolent but they can be. I have always interpreted the spirit cults as being limited by the number of worshipers not any aura cap so I have a hard time believing that spirits like the Trigram have a measly cap of sixty when they have thousands of aura users to draw from.
>>98759339I know its a meme and I kinda played into it here on purpose but I actually think its true. There are only like 20 people active in this thread and of those a couple will ocasionally try to bait me in even sometimes funny ways but I think one or two guys genuinely hate me coz they have no life. The guy didnt even try to bait me he just insulted me when I was chatting with a completely different person.
>>98759371As in not Overpowered, or something else?
>>98759392oh, a few things, but let's not get into it
>>98759353>I have altered the build.Pray he doesn't alter it further
>>98759392I think he means someone who isn't autistically hyperfocusing on a singular aspect of the cyoa.
>>98759395Well, np regardless.
>>98759392NTA but he probably means not taking Limitless Meridians
>>98759397You get it.
>>98759252>I will just say you're definitely heavily overestimating the trigram, they have been killed several times before. in unknown circumstances, they died."being killed" is your interpretation.Vuseba, for example, is said that gave birth 100 times and then her body GAVE UP. She wasn't killed. Her body simply gave up eventually. Wasn't killed.>Plus, they would definitely not have an easy time against some of the other heavy hitter entities in the setting, like angels or abyss lords.Abyss lords are an unknown thing that you can just partially summon.Angels are simple soldiers from one of the two kings.What part says the trigram would have problems with them? Again, you overstimate yourself and summons.>But if you want to headcanon them as so strong they could destroy the city with a flick of their wrist and just haven't conquered and divided every inch because ???Youdi and Yama. Thats the answer.The same answer to why Youdi or Yama didn't conquer everything else, the other one.They still have the most power of the city just below Youdi and Yama, literal spirits of conceptual death and life.
>>98759386Of course you believe it, that's why you're in the meme.
>>98759310>Imagine if you wished on the fairy star to give you a thousand youdus worth of spirits.Nobody here is pure of heart, though I did like anons idea that maybe the golden centennial avatar could wish on it? I don't like fairy star scenario anyways and want to save the kid since I don't like the idea of just sacrificing some kid to evil spirits>>98759329I'm of the persuasion he's probably not the same as dokurokuro, just because I can't see him being a target and still being all blood-sacrificy and stuff like age of trigram says dokurokuro is, it also says kofuko has fallen out of favor with people, which dokurokuro has not. My bet is they're just closely 'related' in some way.
So if we're getting this right softie has overtaken purebodyfag on the "more aura betterer" delusion.
>>98759348Right? the effigy can control reality but like, 60 aura a lot right? Do we even know if Yama has that much? it would be headcanon...I think softie with 60 aura can defeat goku, goku probably has 20 aura or so, thats a lot.
>>98759428Hey, I posted evidence from the authors mouth, if you don't like it don't blame me.
>>98759433You posted vague claims that things are stronger with more aura only to run with it towards heaven and back.
>>98759428He has a few other synergetic delusions. The stupider you are, the more power you have in your CYOA builds, because the fewer obstacles you can imagine. In theory, a complete retard will always imagine himself as God.
>>98759433Softie, it was obvious 20 aura > 15 aura, in the same circumstances.How the fuck does that obvious thing go into "with 60 aura I defeat the Trigram by overdosing a spirit"?Be for real. And then you wanted to say the Trigram won't even have 60 aura when fucking Kofuko gave you the 60 aura you like to blowjob yourself over.
You guys are complicating the fairy star too much. Just make a nice wish and call it a day.
>>98759446"I wish for infinite wishes that can only be nice wishes."
>>98759439If you can't read and make deductions from that reading, not my fault. I do think you crying and samefagging because you're so asshurt about power levels in vagueposting the cyoa™ is funny though.
>>98759455If you think I'm one guy I have some really bad news for you.
>>98759454That's silly
>>98759455is it vague or are there deductions, you can't have both
>>98759443>>98759444You don't get it... he's making deductions bro
>>98759463truly, deducing self-indulgence from vagueness is more powerful than we can comprehend...
>>98759454Don't let me start genieposting, last time that happened I turned a cheeky anon into an amoeba.
>>98759462He can have his cake and eat it.
>>98759444Easy, by following the logic of 15 = walking nuclear option explicitly said to be hard pressed to find an equal then over double that is that much stronger.>And then you wanted to say the Trigram won't even have 60 aura when fucking Kofuko gave you the 60 aura you like to blowjob yourself over.I mean, frankly that's not that impressive. My chimeralord build literally made chimeras stronger than my own character. It's like saying a scientist can't design a robot stronger than them in a sci-fi setting.
>>98759474well yeah because to have your cake means eating it, that makes senseit also results in having two cakes because having it means storing it for later, that's just a simple deduction
Just wait you guys aren't ready for 70 aura sovereign as he's the real mindbreaker.
>>98759483>mindbreakeri accidentally read that as mouthbreather, no joke
>>98759478Chimeralord mogs your aurahoard build.
Your best aurafarming build jobs to Piccolo btw.
>>98759456Softie always thinks its one guy
>>98759493post piccolo's spirit conscript build (must be legal, but may be overpowered)
>>98759491>aurahoardI read that as "Aurawhore" which is more fitting. We should start calling them that
>>98759483Are you really an OP aurafarmer if you have less than 100?
>>98759482It's not have as in eat, it's have as in have in your possession. If you eat a cake it's gone and you don't have it anymore.
>>98759495Must be easier than acknowledging that he's attracting anger for genuine reasons.
>>98759483I think its funny that the anons are acting like I said that my build is the strongest build ever, when I never said that. There's definitely way easier ways to break the cyoa and way easier ways to attain power on par or exceeding what my build has. Frankly, if you just want to 'win' at the cyoa you can just take harem mode and make infinite overpowered companions, and there's other equally stupid combinations of powers or usages of abilities and alterations that can also basically just make you untouchable if you interpret the weird rulings that way.
>>98759505Is it truly gone if it has been assimilated into nutrients?
>>98759505No, he has 60 aura so it's both. The moment he sees a cake and thinks of eating it, there are suddenly two cakes. You may not understand this, but that's just because it's impossible for you to have 60 aura.
>>98759510Well it's not really a cake anymore.
>>98759508there are ways to break the cyoa, you didn't find one, but are acting like you did, that's the problem
Softie I will transfer 10 aura to you if you suck me off. We can negotiate on more later. Do you agree?
>>98759478>the logic of 15 = walking nuclear option you know thats a way to just say strong, right?>explicitly said to be hard pressed to find an equal then over double that is that much stronger.have in mind there is few people in G3 in just one affinity. Of course its hard to find someone an equal when the majority of aura users are jobbers.>I mean, frankly that's not that impressive. My chimeralord build literally made chimeras stronger than my own character. It's like saying a scientist can't design a robot stronger than them in a sci-fi setting.The technique kofuko did to create you is one he could use to create a vessel for himself. Very unlike creating living chimeras. And you being weaker than chimeras is due to giving up being strong yourself to get the points for the chimera build.A spirit learning to do this has to be strong himself, the mere fact Kofuko knows every technique he teaches us is proof of it.Even more when Kofuko is part of the trigram, he is not a nerd scientist creating something strong and he being a normal human. He is in the top 5 strongest beings ever born in the whole setting.If you still think not even your creator has 60 aura, I am giving up in convincing you, but I will say you disappoint me. I didn't think you were dumb.
It's starting to give tok raw fatigue vibes.
>>98759529what the fuck is tok raw
Am I litterally the only person to realize more aura =/= more powerful? or that your starting aura =/= your total aura over your lifetime? Must every little detail be written out for you speds with no imagination?
>>98759537tok is obsessed with RAW (Rules as written)
>>98759537Tok rawdawged him
>>98759478>Vuseba I will kill you with my aurawhore spirit!>Get time stop and killed, retard
Since anons are so cock- I mean aura hungry, I will open an aura brothel business.
>>98759527i imagine that the ancient great spirits all have around 100 aura, that's a good estimate for what would happen as you exhaust a combination of artificial increases plus cultivation gain
>>98759491I've been fucking around with an alchemy doctor build and a flow plant/mushroom build, and I was never really satisfied with my chimeralord build since making companions kind of devalues the ones you get through the cyoa. Always bothered me. I may go back to them if I decide I end up not caring for the summoning stuff, but summoning gives me a wide range of powers and I'm indecisive, so it seems like a good fit.>>98759521No, I wouldn't call anything I'm doing 'breaking' the cyoa, just taking one gimmick really far.
>>98759550You hardly had any canon companions anyway so I fail to see why you'd care about "devaluing" them.
>>98759540You don't realize anything, you are simply wrong. He has 60 aura and the rebirth option. This makes it impossible for him to die because he can regenerate at 60 aura speed, and rebirth doesn't say anywhere that you die if you are killed therefore you just keep regenerating forever no matter what happens. This is ACTUALLY what the retard thinks. This is not a joke or exaggeration.
>>98759540Not softie but apparently since anons are throwing a fit about him and purebodyfag
>>98759537Tok is his go to method of deflecting
>>98759521Basically, yeah. His strategy amounts to bruteforcing aura, like, wow, the worst way to use aura.Literally any of the trigram rips him a new one, ignoring how he basically leaves himself almost defenseless by putting everything into a spirit. They will the spirit with the hax they have. Obviously they also have more than 60 aura but he wants to think 60 aura is the peak of the verse.Are we sure the celestial king has 60 aura?>>98759508>like I said that my build is the strongest build eversaying you can defeat the trigram is almost basically saying that. The trigram is stronger than any build at the start, for bovious reasons.
>>98759560>for bovious reasons...the trigram is COWS??? Now all the hindu stuff makes sense!
Aura Pimp with Oni Bitches and Undead Femboys is the meta.
>>98759565diddymaxxing
>>98759553I did originally, now I don't so much so you're right.>The trigram is stronger than any build at the start, for bovious reasons.No, they definitely aren't, you clearly just haven't seen previous anons do exploits on this cyoa. My build is definitively not invulnerable, and I like that way because without challenge its boring, some previous builds especially after the first few months were just claiming exactly that, that they were invulnerable and win. Hell, the reddicord even had a few people doing that a few months ago I saw.
>>98759543Yea but it is because anons were making some extremely bad faith arguments for Dragonfall. I don't blame him not wanting to answer dumb questions. Honestly he should have just gotten rid of hivemind.
>>98759548I wouldn't be surprise. It must be for a reason that all the strongest beings are spirits in the setting.I imagine if you die with Universal sovereign your spirit form gets a power up compared to your alive form, like Sealed Power's transformation
>>98759555purebodyfag just made a stupid equation of 40 devoted aura in martial arts equating to 40 + 40 + 40 also devoted in speed, strength, and resilience, instead of just assuming it's more commensurateit's self-indulgent logic, and similar to what softie is doing, but not nearly as extreme
>>98759554>60 aura speedFunny, but that still 4 hours as a baseline no matter how much aura you have.
>>98759547Literally succubi
>>98759565>Undead FemboysIndeed (laughs in Porcelain Countenance)
>>987595691000 bottles of Dan Tien Liquor.
>>98759575personally i think going through the spirit form absolutely sucks, you probably need to recreate your entire aura system including carving all the techniques into it again which is like 99% of the effort of learning a techniquebut it's supposed to suck so that tracks
>>98759565Oriental aura parlors make me act unwise.
>>98759587I think its just like a really long fever dream. Do it a few times and you just want to die for real.
>>98759581No no no, he took sacred fountain! It's 2 hours for him! He regenerates one aura per two mintues, therefore two minutes is the time it takes him to regenerate from any wound! Yes, that was a leap of mathematic art he actually made. I'm not making it up.
>>98759596Wronganon spastically shitposting so hard he can't even remember what was said.
>>98759577Yea, he is just trying to justify pure body when it is objectively shit (if we could still learn passives it would be okayish). Intentionally getting a bigger reserve and devoting it on a pure body for greater power is a legit strategy but he is massively overselling it.
>>98759600Oh you wish I didn't remember you samefagging little shit.
>>98759596Did he realize it isn't related to aura points regeneration but whole regeneration?If you regenerate 100 aura (your whole aura) in 1 hour. You will renegerate your body at the same rate of someone regeneration 10 aura in 1 hour if those 10 aura are his whole reserves.Rebirth is: time for your whole aura reserves to regenerate = time for your whole body to regenerateIt doesn't matter if you regenerate 1 aura per minute or per hour, jusr the total time.
>>98759577purebodyfag is worse desu. he genuinely thinks he outstats everyone even if he's being tame and disavowing softie itt
>>98759604>samefagginglolYou don't remember, because you got it wrong, just like every argument you make. Funny projection though.
>>98759610Possibly, it hurt my brain too much to get into that specific math mistake, because at that point we got to the "rebirth doesn't say you die if you are killed" track and that was way more outrageous than a simple multiplication of his regen speed by 60 from nothing.
>>98759596Not what he said but Softie is right that with the right choices aura can regenerate much faster than the alteration assumed.
>>98759622Silly softie. The alteration says with ALL options to speed up regeneration it takes less than an hour to regenerate a limb. This isn't ambiguous. That's just how the option works.
>>98759625It says that but PCA's math was wrong on that option because you can regenerate aura much faster than that and therefore regenerate faster. It's not a hard limit, its just the options math being wrong. Also you replied to not me, again, you spastic retard. It is funny that you said I samefagged and then when you stopped replying to yourself your whole shitpost chain stopped. lol
>>98759625It says "the time it would take to restore your entire Reserve is the same time it would take to restore your full body", which is 30 minutes.
Is Power worth it?
>>98759637It doesn't matter how fast you regenerate aura. With all options that speed up regeneration, you regenerate a limb in less than an hour. If you regererate 1 aura per year, with all options speeding it up applied to it? You regenerate your limb in less than an hour.If you regenerate 1000000 aura per second, with all options speeding it up applied to it? You regenerate your limb in less than an hour.It doesn't change. It doesn't matter how much aura you're regenerating. PCA didn't make any math mistake there because there isn't any math of the sort you're hallucinating there.
>>98759648It's fun
>wronganon is at it againLol.
>>98759637there is no math, it equates % of aura reserves and your body's health. As >>98759650 said, how much aura it actually is, its irrelevant.
I'm lost, isn't the fastest you can refill your aura in 2 hours?
>>98759650what
>>98759661with natural aura regen, to clarify.
>>98759661Thats absolute base assuming you have 0 aura in your pool. With vast, having more aura in your pool vastly speeds up the recovery speed. Your recovery methods and cultivation skill can also vastly speed up how fast you can regen aura.
>>98759662He thinks that regenerating more aura makes rebirth faster. It doesn't. The quantity of aura you regenerate is irrelevant. Only how many means of boosting the speed of regeneration proportionately to your entire pool matters. With all of them applied, you regenerate your limb in less than an hour.
>>98759661Nah, Sacred fountain is just one multiplier. Grab Prana Vulture for a 10x boost if you kill someone and you have 20x right there. Recovery Dispositions are another one you can add, and there's other techniques that boost natural aura regeneration speeds and state they stack with others. Personally, I prefer that Demon Cult technique whose name I forget to terrify victims since it's cool, although it only works when people are afraid of you.
>>98759673>that Demon Cult technique whose name I forgetNo anon you remembered, it's called Demon Cult.
>>98759661>>98759666It's faster the more full your pool is, and recovery dispositions count (though unless they're pain they won't help in this context, since it's about battle regeneration speed).
>>98759672>With all of them applied, you regenerate your limb in less than an hour.No you can get it faster.
>>98759648Yes. +Longer life+As long as you dont fuck up, unironically the safest option+Can still get luxury Influence has the problem of yes, you have bodyguards but there are brothers and sister that may hate you and want you dead. Is safe but not totally safe. And that safety isn't really yours.Power's way of dying is fucking it up and declaring war. Everything else? No fucking way anyone can kill you with how strong you are. YOu can create a syndicate and get luxuries. Get as many wives and money you could need.The real question is, are your aug genes inheritable? Because then you could have a chance to truly be king with a few generations. You live for thousands of years after all.
>>98759689Yes, if you get a real regeneration technique, like reconciliation of the immortal coil, it can be much much faster than rebirth. Also if you get turned into chunks reconciliation saves you, while with rebirth you just die if your brain is destroyed.
>>98759698No you can get it much faster, it explicitly says its equal to your regeneration, so just get your regeneration faster than one hour.
>>98759677I could see Alcohol being useful, since Drunken fighting is a style that practitioners can use to stay more focused while inebriated. But yeah Pain is easier to trigger for this type of build, especially because Undead gives a lot of perks that help like the Lich's Rattling Bones to prevent instakills by lopping off your head. Theoretically, at least, since I don't really know exactly how long you can go without other than "a long time".
>>98759699It can't. The alteration has a maximum. Deal with it. If you think that you can regenerate aura even faster, that just means rebirth doesn't keep up with it. This isn't complicated.It's a 3 point alteration intended for quality of life, not something that can compete against a 15 point g3 technique.
>>98759710>the alteration has a maximumYea, it's what my aura regeneration is as the text explicitly says. My regeneration is about 30 minutes or less, so thats how long it takes to regenerate myself RAW.
>>98759716Well, granted that 30 minutes is plausibly "less than an hour", that's still not specifically true for your entire body, it takes one limb that long so presumably it would take your entire body longer. But not necessarily dramatically longer.
>>98759716I respect the game explicitfag but arguing with wronganon when he's been samefagging and crying again isn't worth it.
>>98759721If you think I care enough about your dumb ass to simultaneously post from 3 IPs you're dead wrong.
>>98759673Yea I have been thinking of actually taking Spirit Blood/Undead Blood as a non free alteration on the opposite race so that I could have Demon Cult and Haunting Terror (only scare people option that sounds consistent enough to really work) at the same time.
>>98759710Alterations compete with legendaries all the time.
>>98759726finally, an excuse to take all three pretty options - craved, sullied, AND porcelain countenance!
>>98759719It says I can regenerate my whole body in the time to regenerate my aura pool which is 30 minutes or less. Lost limbs are restored in only a couple minutes explicitly as per RAW.
>>98759692>+Longer lifeYou're running a violent cyberpunk crime group, it's going to be chaotic no matter what. As time passes the chance that something spirals out of control and you'll be up against the official authorities approaches one. It's a statistical miracle if this won't happen in even 50 years, much less the nominal "millennia" of your natural lifespan.
>>98759730Give examples then.>>98759733>explicitly as per RAWLost limbs are restored at a maximum rate which is "less than an hour" explicitly as per RAW.
>>98759726If you're doing it for the purposes of Aura Regen, probably not that great since it's relying on a Devotion technique which will eat up reserve slots, but I guess if you only use it on a strong opponent with an equivalent of a Vast system it'd pay off pretty much immediately.
>>98759738>Lost limbs are restored at a maximum rateThe maximum rate to restore my body is equal to the time to restore my full pool explicitly as per RAW which is less than 30 minutes, so the maximum rate is 30 minutes.
>>98759707Alcohol is something more people should consider as simply having a certain blood alcohol level will give you crazy extra regen which is really doable in a combat context (compared to eating or sleeping or whatever). Also the various poison immunities could let you be 100% Sober but still get the benefits.
>>98759745No, the maximum rate FOR LIMBS is explicitly as per raw "less than an hour". Furthermore, there is no explicit link between that and your entire body, so you can't say the limbs are dramatically faster than the entire body.
>AIEEEEEE ENTROPIST UPDATE HAD TOO MUCH JJK!!!What cyoa do you like, anon?>Spirit Conscript!!!Is that so?>Looks inside>JJK
>>98759752Nope, it says explicitly that it takes the time to restore my whole body is equal to the time to restore my full pool. Even says it after your own retarded headcanon limit thereby superseding it. It is explicitly that way, so I regenerate my whole pool and body in sub-30 mins.
>>98759743Yea it being a devotion limits it a bit but it is only 1 point per target. I am really thinking in a combat context here and with relevant stacking from other options.
>>98759765Where is that from?
>>98759766Which options are you using to get to 30 minutes again anyway? Because by sacred fountain alone, it's always 2 hours. You have prana vulture or something? Because I don't think that counts as part of the natural regeneration.
>>98759774I accept your concession.
>>98759768>>98759743someone with a vast system will just get it exorcised and warded, those are powerful people not chumps
>>98759776So you're just randomly saying shit? Okay. I guess I was right.
>>98759769Magi. Is the one with the slave barefooted girl.
>>98759783See>>98759776
>>98759784See >>98759783, you seething slug
>wronganon seethed so hard he couldn't reply correctlyahahahahahhahahahhahaha
>>98759784>>98759791Sorry for the stray shots :)
>>98759793OH NOONNONONONONONONONONO
>>98758126Can inversion of agony also invert mental wounds?
>>98759799I'm just happy I was proven right in the end :)
>>98759748It's one of the better Dispositions imo. The only problem is trying to figure out how to get a steady supply of alcohol, but since its a basic technique for Drunken Arts it's pretty easy to afford even with aura regen build budgets being pretty tight.>>98759765To be fair, a CYOA that drops with all those options is going to be different than an update that suddenly adds them in. Plus it gives you a literal Black Flash which is just silly. Though I do find it funny that both have a Domain Expansion, but Spirit Conscript's is just so fucking expensive that you can't afford to put it into your build because you'll gimp your technique selection and drain your aura reserves.>>98759768True, only need to pop it at the right time. I think that its actually a pretty reliable way to trigger fear in those who normally wouldn't since you can skip the process in getting enough weak people if you play your cards right.>>98759778I mean ideally you're not just letting them get away, and unless they actually have a technique that makes them immune (cough cough Illumination), you'll probably be able to spam it. Even though I think its best to use it when you're near your target if you plan to use them as a battery, technically you can just use it whenever since Haunting Terror has no range limit. But that's if you just wanted to fuck around with someone.
>>98759806Good one wronganon, losing to explicitfag and just going "well I won :)"lol
>>98759805I don't think so, unless you're thinking of physical brain damage.>>98759811The guy just gave up randomly. I'm feeling good about it.
>>98758126I saw that this got an interactive, from the other thread. It was alright.
Wronganon raped yet again, how many are we up to now?
>>98759814It was shit, the guy who made it made many fuckups.
>>98759813>I don't think soHuh. Then, if you took legendary technique artistry, for example, and you get trapped inside a time wheel: could you continuously project all the mental damage you suffer inside to the people outside it?
>>98759816At least a dozen. He even samefagged a bunch at softie earlier in anger.
>>98759648Comfort, for the lifespan.I have now made a build in this thread. I am a contributing citizen of CYOAG.
>>98759820No, not unless you had some sort of ability to cross extreme time differentials? I'm not sure there are any such options, but I could be wrong.
>>98759818I didn't bother using it since I already made builds back in the day. I just took a look at some sections and it looked normal. Besides the shitty image quality, that is.
>>98759824Some text was copied improperly. Some options have the wrong costs. Etc.
>>98759816Rename him to rapedanon.
>>98759830Only if you want to make me think you're flirting with me.
>>98759831>rapedanon wants to be rapedFinally you admit to your humiliation fetish.
>>98759823I dooon't think time differential is a factor in the ability, though? It just needs to be someone within the line of sight. Within the realm of the wheel, everything out there would appear as if stopped in time, so I'm working off of the assumption the person you want to target is within the line of sight for the whole duration of it from your perspective.
>>98759828Who made it? mcyoag?
>>98759839Oh I didn't say I want it. I just said that's how I'll see it.>>98759843No idea. But considering the year, it was probably actually chatgpt.
Is any author making something? I am tired of recycled cyoas
>>98759842I don't think it says anything about seeing things outside? At an extreme time differential like that, you wouldn't see anything other than the color black, and you'd need your own lighting inside anyway. It's still questionable if this could even work with mental trauma, but if this is what you want to do you could just give yourself minor pains and they'd stack up. The connection to the outside is still the most difficult part.
>>98759853Ask cyoag if they are making OC. The silence is your answer.
>>98759860>>98759853There isn't some kind of special author gene, anon. ARE you making anything?
>>98759861No idea about anyone else, but I am making something. Early stages though, so I have nothing to show yet.
>>98759774nta but counting only the concrete bonuses you can get (Vast Aura System, Sacred Fountain, Prana Vulture, Nature Acquiescence, and Demon Cult), you can get 80x recovery speed - enough to go from empty to full in 3 minutes. This is not counting vague bonuses, like recovery disciplines, legendary cultivation, and Herbal Lunar Pool, which would boost it even further. Also, most of this recovery is circumstantial (Demon Cult requires a massive cult afraid of you, Nature Acquiescence requires you to be in direct sunlight, Prana Vulture needs you to constantly kill to benefit, etc), only Sacred Fountain is a constant.Gives Rebirth a really fast healing factor for 'only' 5 AP and a BA slot, but doesn't stop you from just getting killed in one shot since Rebirth doesn't give you any extra durability, just lets you heal from stuff you survive.
>>98759866I'm considering making something too, but I probably won't. Alas. My last CYOA was in 2017. Maybe next year, I'll make one for the anniversary.
>>98759871I don't really care what it was in principle. I want to know what numbers he was pulling out of his ass in reality. 30 minutes? That's just strange. I think he was misunderstanding how normal aura regen works, and probably thinking how quickly his final aura point regenerates is applied to the size of the same pool when calculating this, but that's obviously not true. He must have realized I was onto him and quickly started shitposting to cover it up. It happens when you talk to retards.
>>98759853I'm making something. It will be coming out in October, if all goes as planned, but it is a very unconventional cyoa. It will probably be panned but it is the cyoa I want to make. I don't mean that in a fetishistic way, I mean the structure and pacing.
>>98759879Are you the anon that said your cyoa is pure yap and barely any choices?
>>9875987830 minutes is the constant base level of a vast aura system with Sacred Fountain
>>98759887Who? You mean for your jobber build?
>>98759887No, it's 2 hours for your whole pool with vast + sacred.
I return after like three weeks and Already I am reminded of the deep affection I have for this placeWhat has happened this month, besides the dog medicine thing by surincal
>>98759816I don't know but if he was a Spirit Conscript companion he would be the #1 masochist which is really saying something in that one
>>98759897many wonderful things
>>98759897Tok had a melty over entropist. PCA tried to convince everyone that he totally won. Some anons talked about potential OCs. Finally, another troon died.
>>98759896My mistake I was reading the 1/2 aura reserve part
>>98759903Was the troon an author like btg, or a builder I might recognize, or just a person in thread?
>>98759910>Was it btgI wish
>>98759491Just another theorycraft so not the whole build, this a healer/poisoner build similar to chimeralord that I've been messing around with. Thoughts? I have a perennial vegetation/fae spore conduction flow build husk as well, but aside from signature technique in both of those its fairly generic as far as flow builds go.>Aura SystemVast Generalist>Recovery DispositionNutritionLust>Aura AffinitiesCore G2Phase G2Flow G2Alchemy G3>Aura Pool40>TrainingCultivation - MasterTechnique Artistry - LegendCeremony - MasterTactics - LegendInvestigation - LegendScholarship (Science, Medicine) - Legend Tinkering - Master>Basic Release TechniquesSense AuraBody EnhancementHealing AcupunctureMellified Monk's Revival SapToxin PearlHerbal Lunar PoolVorpal Poison BreathInitiate Status—Arcane AcumenSense Enhancement >Great Release TechniquesPoison SpecialistPanacea SpecialistMaster Status—Transfiguration>Legendary Release TechniquesVessel Transfer
>>98759906Huh? Whatever, nevermind. Basically, since we can agree it's 2 hours, we are now in agreement about the rate. Rebirth checks how quickly you regenerate your entire pool, it doesn't check how quickly you regenerate a mostly full pool.
>>98759881I posted about the vague premise of it once, a couple of months ago, but don't think I've talked about it since. The pacing is fucked though, I freely confess to that. I plan to make a more regular isekai cyoa after this for the sake of the thread and myself, desu. 9/10 odds this WIP will be contentious flash in the pan.
>>98759915Is there any point to taking all those basic healing and poisoning techniques when you already have the three great techniques that I believe make them redundant? Even the three great techniques are a bit redundant with each other if you intend to use transfiguration primarily for healing.
>>98758126Can humans double up on the same recovery disposition?
>>98759930Healing acupuncture is kind of the only redundant one. Mellified lets me make instant healing potions that fully restore people, toxin pearl lets me make poison gas bombs and such, herbal lunar pool lets me make... herbal lunar pools, and vorpal poison breath lets me easily make toxin pearls and acts as a weapon itself. All of those are easily sold as hot commodities if not just hoarded, and I could even make a herbal lunar pool spa or something for paying customers as well.Poison specialist and panacea specialist do not do the same thing as transfiguration, in fact they're better than transfiguration since selling doses of panacea that fix different conditions can be extremely lucrative, and it lets me fix things without needing to get my hands dirty with transfiguration, poison is the opposite, letting me poison people and sell all kinds of crazy poison doses, and combines with vorpal poison breath and toxin pearl, in fact panacea also lets me make healing bombs with toxin pearl now that I think about it. Finally, transfiguration is basically surgery, cosmetic alterations and instant healing if I know what the problem is in depth, while vessel transfer is making people whole new bodies, so that can also be a service that can be sold.All of it makes me effectively the best doctor I could make, and I can make tons and tons of money and favor selling this stuff, although my good nature would probably have me slipping free things to people.
>>98759963I forgot to include, transfiguration also lets me grow food and medicine for people, could be really good if I can make super nutritional and good fruit and vegetables or something.
>>98759920Add slimes. I don't care how. Enemies, companion, player, it does not matter to me. All that matters, is that your cyoa has slimes in it.
>>98759981B-beri-sama...
>>98759963I've made builds like this before.Personally I feel that just transfiguration + transmutation + technique artistry legend would give you all of these capabilities already. Maybe also panacea specialist to make it even faster and more convenient. There's nothing stopping you from working on the same substances with more than one technique after all.Personally I always went with medicine + artistry for this though. Gotta make people pretty, not just healthy, otherwise you won't ever be popular.Oh, and I had means of selling both soul and body lifespan too, in one of those builds. Universal sovereign + mind splitting + lifegiving immolation blessing lets you do it without any real costs to yourself other than work and time.
>>98759088>saving the universe from the turning of the wheelFrom my understanding of the philosophies referenced in this cyoa, preventing the turning of the wheel could be construed as evil. You are stopping the renewal of the universe by doing this, which some people see as inevitable and necessary.Obviously, wanting your friends and family to stay alive and not die is a senitmentally good thing, but spiritually, preventing rebirth or even (if they have accumulated enough karma) preventing them from joining the godhead, probably not considered the best action
it's not just limitless meridians, i think a few other things are also problems because they're too gooddivine hand is taken too much by martial artists, and mind splitting is even worse because it's so good but makes all alchemy builds samey if taken
If anons don't like softies summoner build, what is a good summoner build?
>>98760045Universal Sovereign is the first requirement. After that softie's build already becomes a meta summoner build. Though many other approaches can be taken since there are so many summoning techniques.
>>98760045It's just wronganon crying about it and some occasional shitposting about his humongous 'aura'.
>>98760038>>98759088weird things start popping out when you look at what the turning of the wheel is to a kalpa, one turning of the wheel actually happens many times in a kalpa, in the original kalpa, which is a thousand times shorter than the spirit conscrpit version, a turning of the wheel would happen every four thousand years, directly translated to spirit conscript this would be every four million years but you could just divide the kalpa even further and get closer to thousands of years againthis supports the fact that previous cycle youdus exist under youdu, and it also means that mortal world is not destroyed by the turning of the wheel, from earth's perspective it's probably some weird supernatural shit similar to the aura burst but not the end of the world
>>98760051>Softie>No universal sovereignthe jokes write themselves
>>98760067He's one of the brainlets who think universal sovereign has huge downsides. It's perplexing to see such people.
>>98760073Wait, do you not realize becoming a spirit has downsides?
>>98760078You don't get those downsides until you go through the spirit womb. Just don't die, lmao.
>>98760081Oh, I see it's wronganon being wrong again. Carry on.
>>98760082You sure seem to be doing the same thing again yeah. Didn't you get enough embarrassment from claiming that affinities don't improve techniques and the other time you claimed encompassing world avatar doesn't let you encompass the world? And who knows how many other brainfarts like that? Do you just keep doing it over and over?
>>98760090meant for >>98760081
The dementia is curdling quickly.
>>98760103Its over...
>>98760110Melt into a puddle of corruption, Hitogami. Chaosfags have no power here. I exorcise you, Wronganon!
>>98760103>anon couldn't comprehend the point
>>98759953No
>>98760124Your pathetic nature is obvious for all to see.
>>98760127meant for >>98760090
>>98759953Yes. But only if you actually buy it as if you were one of the other three races. >>98760126 is wrong, but not surprisingly, since buying one as a human is retarded, I doubt anyone ever did that.
It's getting worse...
>>98760103>>98760138You are actually probably the biggest retard here wronganon. Lmao.
>>98760098meant for >>98760134
>>98760146Wronganon every time he talks about SC.
>>98760141Funny that you say that while acting especially stupid.
>>98760141Rapedanon loves being raped, water is wet.
>>98759981For (You), I will.
>>98760041It's a very unbalanced CYOA overall but it is part of the charm in a way. I would say a big issue is higher level abilities are just completely superior to lower level ones but don't actually cost that much more (like compare the cost of initiate status to legend). The basic techniques in particular are WAY overpriced, while the legendaries are surprisingly accessible.
>>98760181>I would say a big issue is higher level abilities are just completely superior to lower level ones but don't actually cost that much more (like compare the cost of initiate status to legend). that's a limitless meridians problem, if you actually paid attention to the affinity requirements it would look different
>>98760135So take Spirit/Animal/Undead blood to get the double up option. Thanks.
>>98760189Yeah. But this isn't just a 1 point cost, it's an alteration slot. It's awfully expensive.
>>98760185Meh everyone has at least one G3 and it is always better to feed it a legendary than over other stuff.
>>98760203sure, but builds usually use more than one affinityalchemy and flow can get away with being focused on only their own techniques, but even they are worse off because of it, meanwhile core and phase are practically married
>>98760194Yea I know. Might be worth considering if we had our eyes set on a particular set of racial powers (in most scenarios it would be better to simply be the race though).
Shitalics here. None of my OCs are coming in the next 10 years. Wait at least 11.
>>98760211There was one suggested combo this thread that actually requires being an undead yokai. But it wasn't that amazing.
>>98760214thank god, please take a break, play some video games or go hiking or something, enjoy your life, don't stress about writing, it never ends well
The real italics here:All of my oc for the next 5 years has already been completed, and has been sent to true believers via carrier pigeonIf you were a real one please look up
>>98760246that's very cosiderate of you, not posting it here and only showing it those who want to see it, thank you
>>98760246
>>98760207Even then a non-limitless meridians build is rarely locked out of a legendary and forced to take an inferior lesser technique. Most of the martial arts for example have more than one possible affinity unlock and are actually at G2 not G3 (the ones at a specific G3 would only appeal to a specialist anyway), the eye powers are all a universal G3 (as well as divine hand), and there are several strategically placed G2s among the affinity powers that would tide over vast generalists (like Majestic Weapon Injection which is only 1 point more than Sublime). Alchemy and flow can both be vast generalist as you said with only core and phase having to make the choice between specialist and generalist. The core phase specialist is locked out of so much flow and alchemy that the discussion really doesn't apply and only a generalist would have to settle for say a lesser speed bonus if they focused on core.
>>98758126>Race: Undead>PotentialConditioned>ScenarioKali Yuga>ConscriptionInsurgent>Home TerritoryLimbo>Benevolent AlterationsCorrupt Pool (x6) (Magmatic)Prickling DeathCareful Embalming>Malignant AlterationsAge Disjunction (Younger)Demon SeedMalevolent PossessionTrouble Magnet>Aura SystemVast Generalist (x36)Recovery: PainDisposition:- Core: G2- Flow: G2- Phase: G3- Alchemy: G2>TrainingMartial Arts (Master)Weaponry (Master)Ceremony (Master)Technique Artistry (Legend)Stealth (Legend)Scholarship (Legend) Science, Medicine, EngineeringTinkering (Legend)>Release TechniquesWeapon InjectionCrossing BlockSense karmaAbiding FleshSense AuraBody EnhancementPerfect PerspectiveTransmutation>EquipmentSaika Ikka's Last MemoryWeighted StrapsDisguising Jingasa>FactionsRed Demon Clan (Nemesis)New Sect: ILLUMINIST MOVEMENT- Advantages: Inconspicuous*, Grunts, Workshop>RelationshipsZuruzaba: RIVALRin: RIVALKikuro: RIVALThe goal of this build is to travel around and spread the sciences. I will build up my faction this way, and keep myself largely unconnected to it so that my rivals don't fuck with it. The goal of this totally philosophical movement is to continue spreading this upheaving technology, which aims to overgo the ban on firearms by making use of literally everything dangerous about technology except firearms. The goal is to also get nobility and rich people into this so that they can mass industrialize. In secret, I will be developing a nuclear device.And secrecy IS paramount, which is why I focused mostly on misdirection, illusion (Perfect Perspective is also a great teaching aide), stealth and agility. But you can never have enough of everything, thus I decided to become an all-rounder so that I can aim to be *just* good enough at anything a situation requires. Transmutation helps with this by being highly versatile and will cover my material needs.'m just doing my job as an insurgent.
>>98760264but it's at least something, the martial arts are kind of fucked in this sense but i think they specifically are fixed by actually all being good so people are only picking the g3 ones because of literally the g3 attached without considering the g2 legendary ones, it does feel like maybe an old version was (g2 and g2) rahter than (g2 or g2) thoughwhen it comes to more normal techniques it's very much the case though, take illumination of the heart, it's harshly gated for many builds that can't justify core g3, and if you look at the other affinities there are other similar cases like that, for example i think mirror world inversion is one of the best and most versatile techniques in the cyoa and can improve pretty much any approach you can think of>>98760267i like it anon
>>98758126"The Time Bandit">Body: Undead-Lich's Rattling Bones/Prickling Death>Potential: OP +60ap +24ep>Scenario: Kali Yuga>Conscription: Stalker +29ep>Home: Limbo>Benevolent Alterations: Corrupt Pool +59apSacred Fountain +56apPrana Vulture +52apEccentric +58apPerennial Lotus +55ap>Malignant Alterations: Memory Tampering +58apKarmic Outlaw +65apTrouble Magnet +70apMalevolent Possession +77apLifelink +84apMagmaticOld Grudges>Aura System: Shallow Specialist +89ap>Recovery Disposition: Pain>Aura Affinities: Core G0 +90apPhase G3 +87apFlow G0 +88apAlchemy G1>Training: Cultivation, LegendTechnique Artistry, LegendMartial Arts, MasterAcrobatics, MasterStealth, Master>Basic Release Techniques: Abiding FleshAura Draining*Corpse-Stitch*Initiate Status, Oscillating Motion*>Great Release Techniques: Locus Distortion*Master Status, Distortion*Master Status, Fluctuation*>Legendary Release Techniques: Ronin's Dead Eye +70apEon Reversal +55apEon convulsion +30ap>Meridian Expansion *x8 x3 +0apTotal Initial Aura *x56>Equipment: False Ocular Covering +28epGrappling Launcher +24epWaidan Miracle Pills +16epQuicksilver Immortality Pills +8epQiankun Pouches +0ep>Campaigns: POI, Mafia DragonPOI, Magistrate of HellPOI, Magistrate of HeavenStill not sure I'm 100% happy with this. Despite the power to move mountains and kill Gods, traveling through Time seems so... limiting.
>>98760290Thank you anon
>>98760290>it's at least somethingNo disagreement anon. Limitless Meridians takes away a bunch of considerations. I was pointing it's not the only problem.
Favorite martial/weapon art? I think mine is needle that pierces the soul, it combos well with the other alchemy options like soft strike and divergent lifestreams.
>>98760348ruination gong
RAPE BUILD. MY BUILD WILL RAPE YOURS!
>>98760304You probably want a martial or weapon art with this to actually make good use of the time fuckery. Right now you're hitting like a feather.
>>98760363Anons fate is to be raped as softie has his empowered spirits hold them down.
>>98760381NOOOO NOT DON'T PUT THE 60 AURA THERE NOOO
>>98760381>>98760383
>>98760348Needle is good for some builds, especially if you give yourself extra pointy bits somehow, like a shapeshifter of some sort. The only problem, anytime I think of shapeshifting, I figure divine hand is probably better for toughening up random odd shifted bodyparts. Especially if it's the flow sort of shapeshifting where you might be made out of shadows or something.
>>98760409>especially if you give yourself extra pointy bits somehow,Wronganon...
>>98760422It works fine, wronganon.
I didn't like universal sovereign for my summoner build because it makes spirits learn my summon rites, which is all spirit summoning stuff. That's stupid.
>>98760686It's intended for the more specific rites, like the reviled demons and lecherous odalisques. It would still work as long as a technique is classified as a summon rite. But it's a pretty small part of the devoted half of the technique. For you, the main draw of the devotion would be to just attract spirits to yourself passively.
>>98760686>learnno, it just makes them take on the summon rites, they don't learn anything
>>98758126Retooling my old build. and need some advice.Have 9 points left, and a couple Equipment points. and not sure what to spend them on or if I should prune anything.Am I right in assuming that if you unlock a free Master training you can unlock Legend for the point difference?Race: HumanPotential: MutatedScenario: Age of Dyad Dvapara YugaConscription:Institute ApprenticeHome Territory: Feudal Spirit ChateausBenevolent Alterations:-Pure Pool, x4 Aura Reserve, Free-Fast Learner, -3ap-Hard Training, -0ap-Spirit Blood (Inebriated), -1apMalignant Alterations:-Fanservice, +4ap-Memory Tampering, +3ap-Hellfire Debt, +4ap-Malevolent Possession, +4apAura Sytem: Shallow Generalist, x20 Aura Reserve, +5apRecover Dispositions:-Nutrition-Alcohol-Alcohol+Aura Affinities:-Core G1, 0ap-Phase G1, 0ap-Flow G2, -1ap-Alchemy G2, -1apTraining:-Cultivation (Initiate), +3AR, Free-Technique Artistry (Master), Free-Ceremony (Master), Free-Acrobatics (Initiate), Free-Stealth (Initiate), -2ap-Investigation (Initiate), Free-Scholarship (Master (Artistry & History)), -3apRelease Techniques:-Ancesteral Recourse, -4Flow Techniques:-Fae Spore Conduction, -FreeAlchemy Techniques:-Bewitchment of Skies, -3ap-Dan Tien Liquor Flask, -Free-Herbal Lunar Pool, -4ap-Initiate Status - Arcane Acument, -6apEquipment-False Ocular Coverings (Tinted Reading Glasses), -1ep-Facial Breathing Cloth, -1ep-Noble Modern Formals, -1epFactions:-Majushin, The Sorcerer Dynasty (Member), -1ap-The Six-Finger Mafia (Ally)-The House of Catacomb (Ally)-The Hellion Mob (Foe)-The Pale Demon Clan (Foe)-The Hair Tribe (Nemesis), +1apCampaigns:-Visitations to the Mortal World-Technique Collection-Filler Arc-Field Study-Night of Lantern Bugs-Ruin RaiderCompanions:-Dr. Aki, -2-Teraba the Savage, -2-Katsumi, -2ap-Riku (Malewife), -2ap
>>98760739That sounds way better, so you think if I have lecherous odalisques they all turn into succubi or something? What about spirit subjugation, how the fuck does that work, do they incarnate into each other or something or does it *counting* as a summon rite isn't enough?
>>98760744>need some advice.The most important thing you could do is get a vast aura system of either sort and see if you can squeeze in higher affinities. This would let you learn better techniques later too, not just at the start. And the difference to aura pool and regen would be extreme.Everything else is minor nitpicking.Consider replacing spirit blood with eccentric or prodigy. They could really help. Eccentric goes well with magmatic or quirk of personality, but you can do other stuff with it too.Malevolent possession seems awful for how few points it gives. Meanwhile youthful gives more points and naturally runs its course in a few years. I recommend changing it to that.>Am I right in assuming that if you unlock a free Master training you can unlock Legend for the point difference?You can't.>>98760749Sort of? I imagine they passively gain the powers of succubi in that case. If you have a transmigration or spirit subjugation currently active and have summoned some weird thing with it, all the passive spirits from devoting to universal sovereign might get useful traits from that weird thing too. Or they might just get weird. Who knows, while some are stronger, most of them are little spirits so while it still helps there's no guarantee most of them will become a lot more useful. You could deliberately find something that would make all of them useful, like a spirit that gives them an obvious swarming advantage, like if your subjugated spirit is a spirit of fire and the littler ones all became fire fairies and flame gremlins and set the neighborhood on fire for you.
>don't care about spirit conscript>suddenly 98% of the thread is nothing to youIt's lonely.
>>98760786Happens to me often with other CYOAs. I'd mention which ones, but even though people constantly name them here they just fall out of my brain.
>>98760761Thanks for the feedback anon. Without dropping anything I could upgrade to a Deep Aura Sytem and still have a point left over.To get Vast I'd definitely have to drop something or switch around some options. I'll look into your suggested ones and see what is or isn't at odds with the character concept I had.>You can't.Not sure if this is good or bad game design but I'm leaning towards bad.
>>98760786I force myself to like the thread obsessions.
>>98760798It's not a big deal if you interpret that you can do it your way. If you want to worry about it less, maybe drop fast learner and spirit blood and get both prodigy and eccentric to shore up points. These are beneficial alterations that give you points instead of cost them, and prodigy is one of the best ones even not looking at costs at all, it would just sidegrade you from being good at mundane skills to being good at learning techniques and cultivation.
>>98760761Hmmm, I don't know how to feel about that description of the part of universal sovereign, but it's better than them learning my summon rites. I will sleep on it to see if I like it for my build, I can reduce my aura from 70 to 50 to take it, but I should probably take off delicacy. As much as I think I can leverage that normally, as a spirit with universal sovereign delicacy just sounds... bad.
>>98760807Another thing to remember about universal sovereign is that if you have it you can take off perennial lotus.
>>98760807waving around universal sovereign energies is when delicacy becomes fun!also what >>98760811 said, but you need something for body age as well, though an alchemist getting a body age solution is pretty easy in comparison to most things
>>98760818Body age is pretty easily solved by turning yourself into a summon rite with universal sovereign, isn't it?
>>98760827is it? i don't remember that specifically helping with it
>>98760831If ypu turn yourself into a succubus or in sovereigns case turning yourself into subjugated spirits you shouldn't age.
>>98760838why not?
>>98760844Spirit bodies dont age?
>>98760848but you still have your body, you just fused with a succubus to gain succubus powers whatever those may be, you didn't replace the bodyif you replaced the body, wouldn't you also lose all of the benefits of still being human, as if you died and resurrected as a spirit?
>>98760818Vampire Body is the best that way but you have to be undead.
>>98760856huh you're right, that is the easiest and cheapest wayyou don't need to be undead even, you just waste one benevolent alteration on it
>>98759735If you read the whole paragraph, reaching that point is not simply fighting with authorities.Its reaching a point of ambition beyond what is described in the cyoa.And the cyoa describes making a fucking syndicate of crime. So you can go against the authorities.
>>98760905>And the cyoa describes making a fucking syndicate of crime. So you can go against the authorities.... yes, and as I said, it is inherently something that will spiral out of control if given years and decades and more of time. I feel you have an asinine manner of reading the cyoa if you say that there is no way you (a boss of a murderous cyberpunk druggie goon extortionist squad, or something like it) could end up becoming a top target of the authorities unless you hit a videogamey mechanical "ambition" threshold. I mean you can approach cyoas that way, but why would you? Don't you feel it defeats the point if there's no natural causality?
>>98760855>have been training for ten lifetimes>accumulated enough aura to shatter and rebuild the world many times over>I go through the ritual of summoning an elder spirit and merging with it>have merged the with Empress of Decadence, The Lady of Lusts, Sovereign over All Succubi>Now possess the ability suck dick like a grand champion>No longer want to talk about my super sekrit project on /x/ anymore>keep getting side-eye and giggles from succubi roaming the streets
>>98760919>as I said, it is inherently something that will spiral out of control if given years and decades and more of timedont see the reason. Just use your mind and reputation.>I mean you can approach cyoas that way, but why would you? Don't you feel it defeats the point if there's no natural causality?Because the cyoa says "hey, go do a syndicate of crime if you want, but more ambition than that is bad"
god I hate mcyoag
>>98760925Good thing we're not acting like them!
This is how you make a proper summoner build. The most important technique is reconciliation of the immortal coil. At least one charge of its resistance will constantly be devoted against sexual damage. Thanks to >>98760856 for reminding me of that useful fact, I knew it years ago but have since forgotten.
when will the spirit fag posting end?
>>98760967Six months after you make a build and get laughed at for six months for being very very bad at it.
>>98761016i'm coming for you
>>98761018Bring it.
>>98760807For someone who likes battle as much as you do you should really make more battle-focused builds.
>>98760967Hopefully never.
>>98760967You want to return to the drought? Enjoy the thtread while it's nice and focused, retard.
>>98761133I saw this exact logic pop up during the OR and Entropist arcs.
>>98756689I don't really like this cyoa. I kept making compromises to reduce contradictions until the original intent was completely suffocated, a soulless thing. I'm dropping it and going on a 2 week vacation from 4chan, starting 3h and 2min from now as the deadline hits.
>>98761154>OR
>>98761212Dreamwalker please stop the roleplay.
>>98758146Ranked>1Gunbai no KamikazeWhy? Several reasons. It pairs well with several flow techniques. Its good for defense. It offer long distance hard to see attacks. Stealth. Lightning. Wind.And it scale with the user.I don't see why this thing is not considered the strongest.>2Saika Ikki’s Last MemoryGood for training. This place is betting the techniques it teaches are really good legendary ones.>3Ame-no-SakahokoKinda similar to Gunbai, but has the problem of needing already existing clouds-vapor and Gunbai generates it on its own. Wind attacks as well and lightning. Its simply a worse gunbai. Its finishing move is kinda shitty.>4Hamon-Line Sword of WavesPressured water is strong, and it offers versatility with its shapeshifting. Scales wit hthe user. All around a good option. Wonder how this interacts with more water from an outside source.>5Great Blade-Bow of LifeThe close combat attack is very strong, but its a bow. Weird. As a bow its not bad but also not the best. Weird weapon all around. If it was a sword that somehow turns into a bow it would go way higher.>6Ten no YaRecharging bow? Okay, it takes MINUTES? Bad. But at least I expect to be a great bomb.>7Resting LeafA lot of normal weapons if you start to fold paper. Okay?>8Muramasa and masamune.Why? Just why? It makes you fated to be killed by the other guy with the other sword. No thanks. Doesn't even offer anything beyond sharpness scaling with karma. Just become a smith with a basic flow technique and/or add the trait to scale with killing of spirits.All other consumable weapons like the firearm are lower than this.
>>98761171sad
>>98759648It is worth it and I will use it to plap plap some noble women, have babies and create my own society of my children the most attractive possible by the clan genes and then keep plapping them
>>98758126Official WOG:>Spirit Conscript question, how strong would a Subjugated Spirit empowered with 60 aura be compared to the Trigram/Yama/Yudi?I can't imagine the frightful headway we'd make if we applied this sort of energy to making oca 60 aura subjugated spirit would be significantly less powerful than any member of the trigram or yama/yudi Consider that the trigram are spirits empowered continually by very large numbers of people who worship them, so in terms even of aura available they're beyond the paleNow, if you were to spirit subjugate a member of the Trigram, there's an ideabut you'd have to beat them firstalternatively, make cults for your spirits to get even more power to themI will posit that yama/yudi and the trigram are sort of end-game bosses, and I don't figure a starting build, even a starting overpowered build, is in much position to challenge them You work up to these things
>>98761519What a surprise. I was right once more.Sorry Dark Sovereign, you can't bet against me. Every time I got into a discussion about this and WOG appeared, I was right.Am I PCA? Is him my Hyde?
>>98761519This makes Universal Sovereign even better since you can get way more aura than otherwise through sufficient worship.
woweenie T^T
>>98761698Noo, its a trap. Becoming like a spirit but being able to regenerate aura yourself is baaad
>>98761519>Oh what a surprise! The strongest beings in the setting are actually really strong! How could this be? Anyone who needed WOG to realise this is a hopeless retard and will die the first week in the city.
Goyslop Conscript!
>>98758126Best Traits?
>>98761764Depends. I would say the best is Adaptive. It doesn't matter in what you use it, its strong.Butchery if you are fighting chimeras and summonersSevering Shear and Silvered are the best against spirits.Scar scisson is great against some core builds that would defeat you by outlasting you with passive regeneration.Vortex is great if you have the vortex flow legendary techniqueDismantling has great uses, and if your enemy is caught lacking it could destroy his weaponHeadhunter and cremation for stalkersThen there are several elemental ones and about the weapon moving on its own.So it all depends but the best will always be adaptive. The rest depends on who you will fight and how
>>98761519>even a starting overpowered build, is in much position to challenge themKnowing that Overpowered can have all Legendary Statuses and more, this says alot. Also notice the wording "position to challenge" not "position to defeat". Meaning that even a maximum-powerfagged build wouldn't last a single exchange with the Big Dogs.
>>98761759Unironically, the only way for the 60 aura guy to survive is for the blue onis to kidnap him, wake him up from his overstimation of 60 aura, force him to marry a blue oni (not strong enough for the leaders) and get milked.If he doesn't get kidnaped for this, he gets killed.
>>98761793>Anon goes to challenge the veritable god. Gets turned into an aura slave instead.Oh the irony! or maybe that's just Softie's end goal all along? maybe he wants to get his balls crushed by Oni Mommies?
>>98761790If you get a build with all legendary statuses, you have great passives for all 4 affinities, but little in the form of real power.Flow's legend status is meh without any flow conduction. The passive is strong but not the active.Alchemy is to survive, the strong point is the hybridization with spirits and enhancing them, but that is better used with your own summons. The passive is meh for combat.Phase has a great passive and active for combat, but far from unbeatable and the passive benefits a lot from getting techniques.Core is the only one that is really what you would consider the peak of Core on its own. Giving passive defenses, strength, regeneration etc... without a limit except stealing more stats. And even then, it benefits from multiplying the gains with more core techniquesSo a build with all 4 is strong, but far from the strongest build you can make. And even the strongest build is getting molested.With a good strong build you are probably a good match for the blue oni twins, in a 1v1. Which is a lot right out of the gate. But yeah, the trigram are build different and you need more training for them
>>98761805Hmmm, he did really want to enhance his aura regeneration and his body regeneration.It looks like the build of an aura slave and sex slave.Gets aura drained? Quick regenration.Gets cum drained? Quick regeneration.He was a genius all along... he just wanted to get married of to some blue oni girl. He won't get the attention of the leaders to marry them, but I am sure he could get a cute blue oni girl general, or if he really trains, a dragon of the mafia.
Physical might and durability are a bit of trap options if you plan to fight the top dogs. I doubt you can stop Paradox Point even if you use Consummate Self-Incarnation on every person in the city.
>>98761877Immortal coil might work, but it's extremely aura expensive
>>98758126Every time I try to make a build for this I end up to the Sokushinbutsu+spokeless cosmic wheel combo.
>>98761931Kalpinator...
The description for spokeless cosmic wheel mentions life evolving. Does that imply at least a survivable atmosphere?
>>98761966>spokeless cosmic wheelYou shouldn't be spoking about it then
>>98761966Survivable atmosphere is easy enough if you have plants, but it's more of a question where the fuck are the plants getting the energy does spokeless wheel dimension have its own "sun"
>>98761950Funnily enough I was writing Sokushinbutsu+kalpinator, then corrected.
>>98761980I'm going into the chimeralands and casting it on dirt until I figure it all out or make something that kills us all
Saars I have much aura
Also, if you plan to go against Dokurokuro, it may be wise to swap Vessels...
>>98760967Who cares. It's leagues above the previous discussions of threadeaters
>>98760967When good OC comes
>>98762060Neverending Conscript...
>>98762041Not one mention about jeet coded SC is. Curious
I want to molest softie so bad
>>98762156His summons will hold him down for you.
I need some ideas for powers relating to Tankista
>>98762280Look at his more iconic/popular cyoas, perhaps gauge his general reputation in the thread.
>>98762280He has a self-admitted hardon for precognition.
>>98762291>perhaps gauge his general reputation in the thread.So what's his reputation according to you?
Softie bush….
>>98762316My first reaction was to glaze him, wait exactly three minutes, then badmouth him. I wouldn't trust my opinion, anon.
>>98761519NTA but that just shows how out of touch PCA is with the cyoa and how strong ypu can get.
>>98760967When Outer Reincarnation 3.0 replaces it for an entire month or two.
>>98762350Considering you can have infinite companions and become completely invulnerable I'm inclined to agree.
>>98762357Two weeks at best. Also catposters are supposed to hate Outer Reincarnation, stay in character.
>>98762377Anon that's a dog.
>>98762380maow?
>>98761133general cyoa posting and discussion > hyperfocus autism that derails the general for weeks on end
>>98762397The hyperfocus autism caters to me so it's better.
>>98762350Nah, anons simply overestimate themselves. Anything you can get in the cyoa, the trigram has it or an equivalent>>98762373> you can have infinite companionsAgain with this shit. It doesn't work like that, how many times did we explain this?
>>98762409>Again with this shit. It doesn't work like that, how many times did we explain this?I don't know who you are but it does, have companions generate more companions.
What exactly is this infinite companions combo?
>>98762422>comboIt's just harem mode. That's it.
>>98762409>Again with this shit. It doesn't work like that, how many times did we explain this?>>98762414Nta, I was avoiding the threads for a bit, what's it about?
>>98762331Softie is 100% clean shaven. No hair down there.
>>98762422I have no fucking clue, but you could technically just breed with your waifus and get more "companions" with limitless Meridians
>>98762429As usual, waifumaxxing is the most optimal strategy.
In this world... ITS RAPE OR BE RAPED. Post your build.
>>98762460I'm not enabling your roleplay, anon.
>>98762468>t. Rape victim
>>98762460waiting for new thread
>>98762429>>98762451You also need at least Mystic Beauty due to how the difference between Companion and Romance options works. There is also something deeply cucked about giving your waifus Harem Mode, ngl. And while it technically works by raw, it kinda breaks the setting and shouldn't be allowed in any serious play.
In this world, it's rape and be rapedThis is why you should fill your orafices will small sharp tentacles to penetrate anything penetrating you, and lock it in place while your big tentalcle sneaks around their backside
>>98762460I did before, which is funny because WOG doesn't change my plan to work my way up to the trigram anyways, just means I can't do it initially which is fine and pretty on par with what I would have expected from someone crying for WOG.Still eternal build-making. I kind of want to make a supportive-wizard esque build but not sure how to go about it in SC.
>>98762490>Dies to a random succubus on day 1
>>98762479>There is also something deeply cucked about giving your waifus Harem ModeIt's optimal so do it anyways.
>>98762493I mean, I can summon 70 of them. And my aura regeneration can probably out pace a few succubi fucking me considering I have lust recovery disposition.
>>98762494>cucking yourself for powerSo that's the endpoint of your fantasy, huh?
>it kinda sounds like you're just feeding auralets to the trigram
>>98762500>lust recovery dispositionI didn't knew I was talking to an expert, my bad.
Gilbert ;(
You know PCA is a redditor, because even when he was trying to go full anime 4chan chud mode, he still could not bring himself to make it cute and funny.
Good, looks like the conversation level is going back to normal
Cyoa's where I could kiss my sister?
>>98762533Tis only the eye of the storm unfortunately
>>98762547All of them?
>>98762552Named sisters only please
>>98762552Technically untrue. You can't kiss your sister if the premise implies you're a single child, your whole family gets killed in the premise, or you're isekai'd.
>>98762449If it was that easy, everyone would have it by now. Probably 1-2 G2 is the most average outcome of breeding with limitless meridians. Unless the mother is specially talented herself like Mai
>>98762490>Sofite didn't like WOG interferring in his headcanon>Why did anons go talk with the author? :(Your build fully depended on the 60 aura points bruteforcing it. Without it, your build has no chance, like we told you.Your hope is to learn other different things, and good luck winning with just alchemy G3.
>>98762575Just have more children until you get above average outcomes
>>98761133I read this as hatred and it made sense...
>>98762531Bro your Dr. Aki?
>>98762531Or maybe he doesn't have shit taste so he didn't think to include shit.
The Power Armor CYOA wiki is gone :(
>>98762531>youthful age disjunction is the best malignant drawback in the cyoa by farthe cyoa has cute and funny, anon, it's just that you're the one supposed to inhabit it
>>98762603Our history is being erased before our very eyes...
>>98762603>>98762608waybackmachine?
>>98762587Getting dangerously close to the truth...
>>98762575>Unless the mother is specially talented herself like MaiShe's just a Specialist with G0 Phase.
>>98762583Its funny how he went from >I defeat the trigram. Bro, 60 aura is a lot. 15 aura is an angel and 60 > 15 bro>No, bro, the trigram won't have 60 aurato >Okay, I was not winning at first anyways>>98762490> I kind of want to make a supportive-wizardWeapon Link—Faithful Soul and Resurrected ServantMake the servant never be in sword form, now you have a companion 24/7 with youWeapon Link—Harmonious Restriction and Resplendent CeremonyIn the same weapon, now your companion is a jinchuriki with a spirit sealed withinSome trapping technique like JunkoBasically all weapon link techniques act like support to this companion, he/she being in human form would make some techniques specially nasty. Like the Vortex one meaning he/she is a blackhole of energy.And basically all paper techniques, go from paper summoning, paper hiding, paper vision, paper sealing, paper listening, paper transport etc...it can do paper almostanything.And it fits your style of building up, by making more and more paper. The paper of activation can even let you do a chain of paper techniques to create complex series of effects.My two cents.
>>98762583??? No I can win just fine with my current build, I just can't brute force the trigram out of the gate. I still function exactly how I thought I did and can easily capture spirits and go up the rungs to the trigram like normal, dunno what you're talking about.
>>98762616Being a specialist would canonically make you incredibly talented.And we don't know that. She has G3 in core, thats all we know. And having G3 in core means you are very talented and good genetically. She being a magistrate because of resolve + power is more proof it, she would have been killed long ago if she wasn't talented.
>>98762583>and good luck winning with just alchemy G3.NTA but there's a reason the Majushin and spirits are the top dogs of the setting.
Mai surviving endlessly against counltess top-tier assassins with nothing but naked warlord and immortal coil is proof that the threat of alchemy arts like diverging lifestreams and needle is way overblown
>>98762624>??? No I can win just fine with my current buildLol, lmao.>I still function exactly how I thought I did and can easily capture spirits and go up the rungs to the trigram like normal, dunno what you're talking about.My guy, any spirit you get is inferior to the trigram. You can try to get strong spirits but the 3 of the trigram of power and the 3 of the trigram of clans are way above any of those, by virtue of how much dominating they were when everything started and they culling everyone else.Let alone how their techniques would go beyond that strategic. Just them having spirit subjugation and having done the same as you, but with way more aura fucks you up totally forever.
>>98762639Not just alchemy, but also phase. Granted, I don't think the Ninokata are inclined to go after her since she's a good person.
>>98762637the majushin aren't particularly better than the other factions, they just have two universal sovereigns who died and are going through the million year cuck phasespirits aren't mortals and can't be compared to them easily because they have very different strengths, requirements, and weaknesses
>>98762644The ninokata aren't the only heavy users of g3 phase on a factional level
>>98762637>NTA but there's a reason the Majushin and spirits are the top dogs of the setting.1. The Majushin are not the top dogs of the setting. They are the strongest hman dynasty. The top dogs of the setting are the 2 spirit kings, the 2 trigrams and the yokai clans ruled by them.2. The reason they are the strongest human clan is that recently they had 2 guys reaching legend status.Thats all. You can see in the lore doc how the Senguru are said to reach he same level if their old leader were to reach legend status and he seems close to do it.There is nothing special about alchemy or the majushin beyond 2 lucky strikes of legend status putting them ahead of the other 3. Just like it won't make Flow or the Senguru specialk when their leader reaches flow legend status.
>>98762641>any spirit you get is inferior to the trigramThat's what the empowerment and fusing are for, I can't create bahumut out of the gate, I just need to work my way up to that and get great spirits stronger and stronger and fuse/have them teach each other/develop a spirit kodoku technique like the original plan was. It's my leveling system, but with spirits.
>>98762659>>98762647>>98762637Spirits actually suck at everything other than alchemy. That isn't a strength.
>the alchemylets are copingLol, lmao.
>>98762663Do they? They seem pretty capable of everything and spirit acolyte calls them out as such.
>>98762660Genuine question, how do you think the trigram fights?
>>98762663>Spirits actually suck at everything other than alchemysource.My guy, Kofuko is the one teaching you everything, he is a spirit.
>>98762666Yes. You aren't going to find even an individual spirit with phase/core/flow comparable to a human master of that affinity, while humans, though still not as advanced at alchemy at spirits in it on a societal level, are at the peak of alchemy too, there are alchemy g3 humans.
>>98762670Just because he knows how it's done it doesn't mean he's any good at doing it.
>>98762688To learn about them and how to do them he must be strong himself and adept at it himself.Its simply ridiculous and comes from nowhere that spirits are good only at alchemy. Again, what is your source?
>>98762667No idea since we don't have any reference for their strength or powers other than "strong". The red and blue oni patrons are probably pretty straightforward in trying to fuck you (up) physically with some hax and esoteric stuff, while the pale oni/dokurokuro are probably much more esoteric than that. All of them need a lot of preparation and info gathering for regardless.You ever see the anime Dark Gathering? Spirits should be treated a lot like ghosts are there, and for taking on the bigger ones since you can't just brute force it out of the gate then you need to get better spirits.
You lost... AGAIN
>>98760806Thanks again for the feedback anon.>It's not a big deal if you interpret that you can do it your wayMy autism wont allow me without permission from the author.
>>98762699>kofuko when he sees his conscript didn't pick overpowered
>>98762699>PCA when he sees anyone play his cyoa
Ah, yes, A Holy Murder. Some powerful fag killed Sattva Panfaetha so well that only one finger remained and, apparently, Sattva doesn't know how the guy even looks. That absolute character also shittalks the Overseers in letters for 60 years straight.I really want for PCA to spill the beans on this person, the guy sounds kinda cool.
>>98762667He probably doesn't. He just imagines them as legendary pokemon who will wait for him to capture them after he captures their subordinates one by one.>>98762694In this setting, knowing a technique in theory is not the same thing as carving it into the meridians. You could be the greatest theoretical master of a technique and still unable to do it.It's ridiculous that no spirit anywhere can use G3 in non-alchemy, but it is very plausible they suck at it compared to humans, since humans are the sources of non-alchemy affinities. The three non-alchemy affinities arise via human methods of chasing impermanence, while alchemy is a spirit trait that humans borrowed and started to turn into a plagiarized immortality.Basically the Majushin are chumps who got massive help from aliens while the other three needed to do everything otheir own but all four of them are still equal in strategic power somehow, with the majushin only leading in prestige based on a technicality.I recommend not joining any of the human dynasties or the spirit worshipping factions. The other factions like the shifter, yokai, undead, and mafia ones are way easier to justify interesting builds in.
>>98762697My question comes from how you are very adamant that just by pokemon training and steroids you would win.Which to me is like a guy saying that with Consummate Self-Incarnation he can eventually defeat them all by just punching them.Both of you are thinking like in dragon ball terms making it awfully more simple than it is when the complexity of hax and techniques, even more when fighting a spirit with thousands of years ahegad of you and a whole clan helping, is going to make the fight more complex than a jojofight that ends with the mc knowing X type of insect shits only tuesdays.At least you want t ogather info but that would be another battle by itself as counter intelligence would also be their top priority.But anyway, I was right about the WOG. I am fine with that. If you want to continue it won't be me debating
>>98762724>Which to me is like a guy saying that with Consummate Self-Incarnation he can eventually defeat them all by just punching them.NTA but yes that's how that works.
>>98762729>t. has Consummate Self-Incarnation and now has to defend his headcanon
>>987627292i like CSI myself too dude, but "just by punching them" is not the same as "using punches to defeat them", the first implies a lack of any other sort of ability, tactic, or strategy
>>98762724Wait so your argument basically boils down to thinking anons can't train or gain enough power enough to beat them if they specialize? What kind of retardation is this?
>>98762740>>98762729
>wronganon gets mad and cries to author about softie>immediately comes back because he didn't get his wrong fix
>>98762724>My question comes from how you are very adamant that just by pokemon training and steroids you would win.Yea anon, ghat's kind of what my build is built to do.
>>98762748Wait, does that mean this extends to the xistercord? What did PCA say? I want DRAMA. Tell me.
>>98762742i support his view in the sense of "you can't just train one thing and ignore that each single thing in this setting has extremely effective counters, therefore you need to train multiple things into a coherent build", which is a bit different than what you're saying>>98762748wronganon is chaosfag>>98762753he said softie is retarded for thinking 60 aura makes him stronger than a trigram spirit, which everyone except for softie knows, though wronganon/chaosfag was pretending to be retarded so that softie would be actually retarded for as long as possible
I won the argument. Again.
>>98762767If you keep needing to "win" the same argument, then clearly you never win it.
>>98762759>he said softie is retarded for thinking 60 aura makes him stronger than a trigram spiritHe just clarified how strong the trigram spirits are to some extent. It's really funny to know that wronganon outed himself on the cord though.
>>98762722>but it is very plausible they suck at it compared to humans, since humans are the sources of non-alchemy affinitiesIts probably just a lack of wanting to/striving for it rather than talent.Phase, core and flow come from humans because alchemy was enough for spirits during simpler times.Legend status are a try of humanity of escaping death. Spirits, on the other hand, never needed to escape death as they can't truly die. Which is why even within alchemy, probably no spirit wanted to learn legend status of alchemy, it would be useless for them.Firearms were invented in china. What did the rest of the world? Adapt that new tool and research it.Thats why I dont think spirits suck at it. They didn't need to escpae death like humans so they didn't pursue the same thing. Humans ended up creating techniques trying to do so, spirits realized it and joined the technique run.>I recommend not joining any of the human dynasties or the spirit worshipping factions. yeah unless you want to simp them.Although joining the majushin as an universal sovereign (alive) could maybe let you reform them and avoid the civil war.Ninokata keeps being the best huyman dynasty.>The other factions like the shifter, yokai, undead, and mafia ones are way easier to justify interesting builds in.Yokai and mafia are related to spirits. Feather tribe as well.Its basically hair tribe and scale tribe, ninokata, jiahao and senguru, undeads due to kofuko losing their favor that are not related to a spirit.
I haven't read the arguement, but I think anon won, and that he is my hero
>>98762771wrong wronganon
Best build if I want to fuck the shit out of shapeshifters like the tribes without being one?
Why is everyone calling each other wronganon?
>>98762771How do we know that's not softie?
>>98762781Inhuman evolution. Make your cheapest form a furry version of you with an evolved penis. This has the benefit of having the more expensive forms still be highly useful tardbeasts instead of a vanity and pleasure platform.
>>98762786Softie on an alt acc. Would not be the first time he does that. Pathetic being that he is.
>>98762786Because he doesn't give a fuck if people know who he is, he's had his account named his handle on the cords for a while.
>>98762784because wronganon got caught being deliberately wrong for chaosfag purposes, and started trying to make it so that someone else, anyone else, would be considered wronganon instead
>>98762742Didn't say that.If you are sovereign, your logic was>uhhh strong spirit 60 AURA, LOT OF AURA uhhhwhich is bruteforcingnow you added>stronger spirit plus X time uuuh strong aura!Which is the same thing.You can train, you can get stronger, you can learn new things, but specializing in pokemon of a species the same as your rival but worse is like thinking your level 100 magikarp is going to defeat a level 100 mega rayquaza y.No hyper specialization that starts from such an inherent inferiority is going to win. You are playing their game but worse, and they have a lot of other games that you don't know even the rules.Another thing is if you start with >spirit subjugationand then train and get other things. Being spirit subjugation PART of your plan. But going >haha, strong spiritAgainst the strongest spirits with a great difference is dumb.
>>98762793I hate this dark sovereign faggot more than tok and italics combined. What a dogshit human being.
>multiplayerfags>discordfags>literal who namefagscyoag... has fallen...
>>98762771>It's really funny to know that wronganon outed himself on the cord though.I have been called wronganon, I debated with sovereign a lot about this but I dont use discord.Are we a lot of wronganons or the name truly lost meaning?
>>98762803What, did he fuck your sister or something? He doesn't even do anything aside from occasionally argue about cyoas.
>>98762807>>98762784>>98751510
>>98762807when did it have any meaning in the first place? it was always meaningless
>>98762809He fucked up my plan of dominating the world in entropist. I wont recover from that
>>98762809He doesn't make rational arguments. He just very lazily argues based on feelings and vibes, and sometimes he doesn't even bother to include the feelings and vibes. It's a form of profound disrespect for both the subject matter and for the people he's talking to. And then he has the audacity to say that he's using logic. I wish he fell out the nearest window to be honest.
>>98762830Vargethrob...
Hogs? Bread?
>>98762831>wronganon seethes this hardNo wonder you cried to PCA.
>>98762840I don't even have discord, wronganon. Go eat softie's ass some more.
>>98762805THREAD FELLED
>>98762840>>98762845I am the true wronganon, did a little bit of trolling one day and since then I can't escape this.I debated sovereign but I dont hate him Relax.
>>98762840He got one thing right after waking up PCA from his author hibernation and now we'll never hear the end of it. I pity softie, he feels like the kind of anon that would DM him incessantly to gloat about it.
>>98762853It's okay. I'll hate him enough for both of us.
>>98762852Do you think having sex with a spirit summon causes the real person to be able to feel what you did when they return to their world?
>>98762771To be clear, I (Scree) am not the guy who's been debating this for god knows how many threads. I just figured the best way to end this was to just ask PCA.
>>98762854He asked about the most pointless thing. Everyone already knew the 60 aura plan was retarded on a fundamental level, including you. It won't matter to softie because softie doesn't care about reason, he'll just make some more shit up for why he's actually the best. It won't matter to you because all you care about is eating softie's ass.>>98762868You failed. It was never going to work one way or another. The problem isn't that softie is reasonable with the wrong information. The problem is that he's unreasonable with any infromation.
>>98762861Only if you use a weapon with butchery as penetration.>>98762854I have been being right about PCA and SC since the start. I only mention it everytime it keeps happening because at this point its easily 7+ and 0 mistakes.This probably was the last time PCA will be asked about something in SC so it will be the last time. It never stops being sweet tho.
>>98762805
Where is my bread? Where are my hogs?>>98762880>>98762880>>98762880
Is because you got team cord, who defend the xisterhood together vs team 4chud. The solution? All redicords need to leave this place.
>>98762884Turns out generals are the same as discord servers. They breed the same sort of faggot.
>>98762861I don't care about Spirit Conscript.
