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Any spirit conscript image builds yet?
https://imgchest.com/p/na7konjjwy8
>>98767429I'm so tired of Spirit Conscript...
Spirit Pajeet more like
>>987674444channnnnn!!! fix your fucking spoilers!!! I put them in the right place but it doesnt work!!!
https://imgchest.com/p/5xy22anpnylhttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ObgmLnSo5yEod3g8r08FV_4Hc72s4RHK
Jeet Sovereign best at seggs i will be raping you now sar
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>>98767502
Any OC to look forward to?
>>98767497you fool, that was a trap
>>98767441What do you think happens if you romance a rival if you have mystic beauty? You can't have make a rival your companion, but your romances with mystic beauty gain the benefits of companions.
>>98767516OR?
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>>98767516none at all
>>98767341what did they do there? Have a massive circlejerk?
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>>98767516Exalted Conquest.
>>98767666They made dreamlands 4chan where they post about how difficult, dangerous and scary trying to do things in the real world. The mother gives them Soulbux so they can get by.
>>98767494It’s still funny that dwarves can do all the features of the old throne/muddish, but better.
But seriously, what happened to them?
Run a Pub. Wot's your favrite drink and dish
>>98767771And by them I mean /mcyoag/.
>>98767780>The outcast >Twig and tin>Fruit splendor>Smith>Spicy Sea-stew>Men of the SeaIt's gonna smell crazy in there
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>>98767510Extreme Neopantheans are the correct ones of course.
>>98767516Mine.
>>98767534romance anime tropes that mix all three, duh
>>98767534Complicated relationships, specifics depend on the person. Maybe even some serious yandere tendencies.
Sovereign is not a jeet!!
>>98767970you could very genuinely write a yandere with that, a yandere might think she's helping you while still causing all the problems of a rival
>>98767970oh, you pretty much get that if you take rival + romance Suzu
>>98767783I actually gave it a shot like a year ago and everyone was just super gay and sensitive. It was like going to a Renaissance fair expecting autistic dudes who are really into blacksmithing and instead finding a bunch of theater heifers with fairy wings trapped between their lard folds. So my guess is the annoying freaks started turning on each other.
>>98767981He is the twinkiest, silkiest jeet. He smells amazing.
>>98768013like curry?
>>98768013>jeet>smells amazingalright you got a chuckle out of me
>>98768020>>98768026If someone is attractive enough you’ll learn to love their stink. Humans are pathetic creatures that way.
Softie is pale white and smells of lavender shut up
I will never forgive PCA for not giving me good SC companions.
>>98767970>>98767985>>98767988>>98767534Can we fill every category with spirit conscript companions? Assuming each is taken a romance-rival, though companion-romance-rival is also acceptable.
>>98768020And lavender
>>98768040Literally this bwos
>>98768047it could be a lot worse, you could be forced to take player builds as companions
>>98768047You might have some of the worst taste known to man.
>>98767960>>98767970Thanks for the opinions, the funnier option.Also asking again, do you think mistic beauty would apply it's cost discount to companions too, as they get the romance benefits? Seems a stretch to me.
>>98767519It's true! After I made this post he appeared before me like a summon and started sucking my cock without my consent. I was raped!
>>98768064If it ain't brown he doesn't want it. They call him the 'Dark' Sovereign for a reason.
>>98768070no, when it says benefits are shared it just means a companion counts as a romance in practice and vice versa, not in cyoa mechanical terms where you count points
Kofuko…Kufoku?
>>98768072So for all his bitching and moaning anout builds he should just go with the one that lets him make brown bitches
>>98768010Have you looked at the state of this thread?
>>98768078dokurokuro? like dokuro in oblative gesture!?
>you can force kofuko to give you a hand job if you use dokuro from oblative gestureSo this is why people are actually taking that otherwise shit technique.
>>98768090wronganon...
Reminder that pca is a closeted homosexual tormented by his love for god
>>98768079Isn't that just mannequinn servantcraft?
Reminder that gil is a closeted homosexual tormented by his love for tok
>>98768061>Needing the author's permission to do that.If I ever meet Softie in a dark alleyway I inflict untold sexual actions on him.
>>98768072I'm thinking Dark Jeeta would be more appropriate at this point.
>>98768104Chimeralord could do it too.
>>98768113>anon was subsequently raped my 50 incubi
>>98768119But he’s not brown or jeet? Nothing is gonna beat dark softie
Reminder that anon is a closeted homosexual tormented by his love for cock
>>98768119He is definitively not brown, he just has a colonizer fetish.
>>98768061There probably are some tolerable or even nice options among them, right? Right?!
>>98768077Yeah, as I thought, then I should be close to finishing my meme build.
>>98768122Wait.. why does Softie 50 incubi with him? And how does he keep them satisfied when nobody's around?
What are the rules for using Binding Paper Sigil with Assassin's Secret Cupboard? Would it work at all? When would it be too much?
>>98768130Iirc Lecherous Odalisques summon rite.
Listen. This isn’t healthy. You can’t keep calling people you dislike or disagree with a ‘Jeet. You have to learn to accept that people of differing takes exist.
SoftJEET asks you for bob and vagene. Do you accept?
>>98768141You have to admit that the humor lately has been very indian
Softie Diarrhea Floud Conduction build when?
You guys are sick You’d let a twink fart and shit in your mouth
>>98768136Yeah but why is he using it for incubi instead of succubi?
>>98768141We already accept you exist and have a word for you, Jeet.Nothing needs to be changed
>>98768168To rape (You)
>>98768135it would just work, there are no limitsvoid paper sigil is even better to combo with binding btw
>>98767783They have come here judging by all the intentionally suboptimal Spirit Conscript >>98767441builds I have seen posted.
>anons make builds I disagree with this means indians and erpers have invaded
>>98768188We get raided by them a lot.
>>98768197it's not really your builds that we disagree with, it's that your opinions are objectively wrong on a fundamental level
>>98768203That's just wronganon intentionally being wrong like he's been doing for a few days now.
>>98768199We aren't separate communities from threads like /mcyoag/ and /cyoar/ so you can't really call it raiding. The only CYOA thread that has actually developed into a truly separate community is jumpchain.
>>98768215nah, wronganon, you don't have opinions, you're just a contrarian
>>98768185You're right. Void looks handy.
>>98768072Half the male companions are brown
>>98767441Kalpinator the Endless>SpeciesHuman>PotentialTalented>ScenarioAll>ConscriptionBeast Hunter>Home TerritoryThe Border Wilds>Benevolent AlterationsPure PoolMystic BeautyLimitless MeridiansSpirit Blood (Seen)Animal Blood (Monkey’s Tail)Undead Blood (Undead Blood)>Malignant & Ambivalent AlterationsSealed PowerAmbivalent Alteration (Magmatic)>Aura SystemShallow Specialist (+5 AP)>Recovery DispositionLoveMeditation (x2)>AffinitiesCore G3Phase G3Flow G3Alchemy G3>Basic Release TechniquesSense AuraBody Enhancement>Great Release TechniquesGeist Patron>Legendary Release TechniquesInvincible Sokushinbutsu StanceSpokeless Cosmic Wheel>Equipment & Special WeaponsFalse Ocular CoveringsFacial Breathing ClothWeighted StrapsPrayer Drum>FactionsThe Hellion Mob (Foe)The Lunar Temple (Ally)The Solar Trigram Cult (Nemesis)>CampaignsTechnique CollectionThe Oppression of the AbyssGreyflesh Culling>Relationships>CompanionsMitsue Mai, Fourth Golden SageMing Yue>RomanceRokubi >RivalsSayuri HanaTeraba the SavageFor now the meme build should be done, let's see if I finally manage to exorcize this and go for something not revolving around Spokeless+Sokushinbutsu.For what's worth compaions and campaigns are a bit more serious.Opinions?
>>98768227Everyone you imagine is brown.
>>98767534Also, what happens if you take Mystic Beauty + Charismatic? Wouldn't that also give you a harem automatically?
>>98768197/mcyoag/ builds are pretty distinct compared to ours. They don't simply pick fun options that they know aren't the best which we sometimes do, they intentionally make shitty builds to enable shitty character roleplay (often ERP)
>>98767516What is /cyoag/s opinion on mentors? I mean in "you can only unlock certain powers by being an apprentice to a specific character". It's hardly a new concept, I know but I wanted to know if anons like it, dislike it, want it to be implemented certain way (more restrictions, less restrictions, incompatible skill lines/progression etc). I do wonder if anons would for example call it humiliation ritual if for the most destructive or unhinged skills you would have to apprentice under a schizo.
https://imgchest.com/p/6eyrxbnxypzIf tok is around, on the last page, with the rivals. if you spend two shards of power, does that entail you able to sherry pick rivals everytime? or is it a once and done deal? if i chose Daenerys, will only Daenerys be added? or can i decide on Jon Snow the next time?
>>98768229it would work, but all you really get out of it is +50 to your aura reserveyou want to get waning lunar aeon asap so that you can combo it with sokushinbutsu
>>98768120His inability to stick with a build makes me wonder what would be a good build for him? Maybe like a generic wizard build with transmutation and transfiguration with origami and mannequinn so he can make his minions and do whatever.
>>98768231I'm imagining you, anon.
>>98768216>mcyoagtroon trying to crawl backPathetic. Fuck off.
>>98768238Depends, on Outer Reincarnation for example, many of them were pretty good choices.
>>98768248Doesn't change a thing. In fact, it confirms it. Only brown exists in your brain. Your psyche is a brown singularity.
>>98768246the three alchemy master statuses are basically a "do anything" combo, and they slot absurdly well into any overpowered build that takes alchemy
>>98768238I like it if he is a classic hero's journey mentor and isn't a jackass. I wouldn't like it if I had to choose between multiple mentors and the one with the powers I wanted to learn wasn't the one I liked though.
>>98768268Meh transmigration is pretty specific and shit. Otherwise yea.
>>98768245It also gives me the occasion to study stuff at hyperspeed, using the Geist patron to study stuff while I stay static.That said yes, it isn't a really powerful build as it is, and needs more techniques to actually get stronger (a fun idea I had was using the Eon reversal to abuse the sped up aura regeneration).
>>98768277it summons spirits non-specificallyif you want some weird ass spirit that's almost never heard of for one specific job, you can't go wrong with transmigration, as long as you apply the correct ceremony and technique artistry you basically turn transmigration into a custom spirit buildermeanwhile if you want a basic bitch fighting spirit to protect you or toad spirit to jew for you, you aren't going wrong with transmigration either>>98768289people who argue against it just feel a need to take things down for no reason, it's a useful gimmick but there are many other combos nobody is moaning against
>>98768246Honestly if he wants a ridiculous amount of aura regen and shit monarch of servant soul could be good if he could find strong servants to summon.
>>98768090It's a neat bag of tricks and opens the way for more deals with more spirits for more tricks to add to your bag.
>>98768307At 60 aura he could do some scary asf shit with the abyss techniques if he didn't care about collateral.
Is softie actually a twink irl
>>98768324only in the mental sense
>>98768324Yes
Could you take souls with sorcerer's servant eye and hold them in soul-shattering howl while not in use? That way you can swap them in and out without needing to constantly maintain sorcerer's servant eye devotions.
>>98767441don't you feel like there's too much in this cyoa?
>>98768350Not at all. I’m genuinely impressed at how easy to digest PCA made SC despite its length. Anyone else would’ve made it feel like a chore that drags but he truly is among the honored ones
>>98768124He is mentally. If you told me he was an albino jeet I wouldn't even blink.
>>98768343I'm not the author, but I like that combo and don't see why not, so it will work in my headcanon version of Youdu.
>>98768343it feels like you'd be burning them while doing that, which doesn't combine well with the fact that you want to keep the powerful souls you caught intact so they use techniques for youurn of the dead may be more appropriate>>98768350no, don't you feel like there's too little in the average cyoa?
>>98768358>its length. Anyone else would’ve made it feel like a chore>t. Tankista cyoas
>>98768362Soul-shattering how turns you into a bottomless receptical for souls, no urn or burn needed.
Sorcerer's servant eye seems pretty shit desu
>>98768358It's easy to get through but boring
>>98768382*instantly swaps your soul into a loli that was standing next to you*
>>98768389You mean a child
>>98768365It’s tough with tank. Fate is his best work desu and feels a lot less convoluted than his others.
>>98768391child is a broader category
Fate stay gay
>>98767516Elden Rings.
>>98768401If it's worse than any of the elden ring jumpchains i'm just gonna laugh at it and anyone who builds for it
>>98768120Chimeralord was really held back by him taking all of the animal monarch summons imo
>>98768403But that would imply reading jumpchain, and IIRC we're supposed to hate all adjacent communities.
>>98768382it's good
>>98768405The cargo weighs down the ship. The captain holds back the ship.
https://imgchest.com/p/ej7m32dna4d
>>98767631What if another Isekai Dark Overlord and the cyoa is ruined?
>>98768408Doesn't matter to me because I'm not retarded. One of the current elden ring jumpchains is okay. It's not the most brilliant jumpchain you've ever seen, but you can do anything plausible in the elden ring setting with it, including being the tarnished with the game mechanics it implies or being more powerful than the tarnished but ignoring game mechanics in favor of a more natural world.
>>98768080Discussing a CYOA?
>>98768414I opened the mystery box, and all I got was this lousy vomit-stained shirt!
>>98768393I think OR really is his best work. The tide posting split a lot of anons, but digging through the different options to uncover bits of lore and rules of the world was very fun for me. I felt like the more I put in, the more I got out of it.
>>98768080I wouldn't know; everything about SC is filtered.
>>98768426Redditor-kun...
>>98768426mental-illness-anon... i kneel...
>>98768424I'd argue that the tide posting itself is a consequence of the virtuous cycle OR had going on, since it could sustain itself and grow even beyond.
>>98768438Then why didn't it grow beyond shitposting in this thread and sustain its own general?
>>98768405I thought that was one of the smartest parts imo. He can get DNA on command from anything and can command any animal around him, he could use birds and bugs for spies and shit really easily.
>>98768447yeah because it's impossible to get birds and bugs without a technique, lmao
>>98768168Softie wants them to run a train on his ass, after their done he'll say it was just one guy.
>>98768444Because *checks notes* they wanted to annoy you specifically.
>>98768452It's impossible to talk to them without a technique or being an animal fucker yea.
>>98768454Yeah, or maybe you were just wrong, lmao.
>>98768419Probably meant all the homo posts at the beginning
>>98768459I'd be fine with that.
>>98768444Because secret masters of this thread despise splitfaggery.
>>98768460My eyes glazed past them automatically
>>98768444most content has been extracted so there was not enough to talk about to sustain a general day to day, so new inspiration only strikes from time to time to begin new discussions and OR continues on churning resurrecting from time to time, also creating a new general reduces your viewer base so staying in the main one has a wider audience so more individuals are enlightened in the ways of OR.
>>98768464Oh yeah I remember that retard who was really insistent about not allowing what's now /cyoar/ to split off. Like he could just not allow lewd cyoas to exist? He was way more serious about it than the average shitposter too, like to the point of an actual obsession.
>>98768453>he'll say it was one guyYou're not making a good case to the contrary.
>>98768444Same reason Entropist and Spirit Conscript didn't despite being bigger and better CYOAs.
>>98768197Thats not whats happening here, softjeet.
>>98768480I'm tok thoughbiet.
>>98768424OR is his second best imo. Part of the reason is because it felt more convoluted than Fate. I still haven’t gotten around to fully building OR
>>98768405I’m not sure I agree with this take.
>>98768401Why do you want some feminist fantasy slop that emasculates men?
Elden Ring is comedy fantasy. The feminism makes it funnier.
>>98768526>he asks, while he's the one maintaining the feminist fantasy
>>98768453Kek
>>98768526It enables my inner arsonist. The rest is irrelevant but I'm sure the shitposters will talk about it.
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>>98768540Do you really not see the feminist angle of the game? Lol.
>>98768585
>>98768581Anon that's not how you bite baits.
I still don’t know what familia to join in danmachi
>>98768611and you never will.
>>98768595Sorry, lemme try again.>>98768526>Just pick female, retard>all "strong women" revolves around males, tf are you talking about?>what if i want ranni to peg me haha jk jk unless?>I'll eat whatever OC is thrown my way...>If you can't break the status quo you were born to lose.>But can they beat the cock? >Just rape men to assert dominance.Assume I answered one of those instead.
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>>98768497I actually find settings like Fate to be more convoluted, but I think that may come down to how much certainty one needs to have about the details of a setting to enjoy it.
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I kind of feel sad for this one anon in this thread now. Like he's trying hard and doing his best, but it just isn't working? I won't name names, but still...
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>>98767441The companions in this feel so lifeless, I wish we could at least have a paragraph of dialogue or a small quote from each of them, like JRPG Traitor or Magi Case did. That really made me feel like they were much more alive for some reason.
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>>98768680Matterjeet's battle against the unwashed masses continues...
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>>98768688>i hate breasts but i can't just say that, so i'll make something vague up instead
>>98767666>Go into dreamlands>Leave dreamlands into another dimensionThe dreamlands are the best method to travel between dimensions
>>98767783I think they want to restart?
https://imgchest.com/p/5xy2k8oxnyl
>>98768715Hell too is good, and it even has the advantage of being full of people weaker than you, the only problem is that Drace is far worse than Astra.
>>98768081Dokuro is just the word of a "skull" in japanese.Dokuro in oblative gesture is a random skeleton spirit.Dokurokuro is "black skull" and its probably just the title Kofuko took as "king" of that type of spirits. Or maybe Kofuko is his new name trying to lay low and his original one was Dokurokuro.
>>98768734> the only problem is that Drace is far worse than Astra.Not really, Drace is very strong, the strongest warmage. Unless you mean in personality.But they are the best friends between all gifts having a sister relationship that makes Drace not be so... Drace. So those two together are very cute.
>>98768749>Unless you mean in personality.Yeah, this, her personality is the big problem (else she would be one of the best gifts).Also, but that's just personal taste, I like Astra's efficency.
>>98768611Softies familia.
>>98768759>her personality is the big problemmaybe for you lil bro
>>98768715You dont need make a dreamlands build just to use it as a bus station.
>>987680491. Dependentidk2. MnopolizingLady Hakuma 3. EliminatingThe unreleased companion that was Baba Yaga4. AttackIDk5. StalkerSuzu6. HarmlessMing Yue? A lot fit this as the majority is harmless7. WorshipingYomi and Futaba if you are above Futaba in power and/or moneyWeird, sounds like the hair tribe has a fetish in common8. DelusionalAlso the unreleased Baba Yaga, she was literally crazy in this sense9. IsolatingJunko literally kidnaps you.
>>98768770You dont get to use the dreamlands as a bus station unless with Astra or a dreamland build with a blessing that lets you travel physically.>>98768759Eh, given the relationship with Astra and how good with babies she is, probably she relaxes and become a more normal person.
>>98768735Or maybe he and Dokurokuro are somewhat similar to Koha triplets.
>>98768771>Yomi and Futaba if you are above Futaba in power and/or money>Weird, sounds like the hair tribe has a fetish in commonStop making me want to take them
>>98768779Koha triplets are the same person, so that means he simply has a second body.
>>98768666That’s fair. Fate in general is a clusterfuck so if you’re not intimately familiar I can see it.
>>98768688These are some of the better companion descriptions we’ve gotten. In both length and character SC beats out most works where companions have a few line at best.>>98768704This is definitely what’s happening kek
>>98768785Bear with me anon. After posting it I realized its not only Futaba that starts dominating but later on becomes submissive if you prove superior. Thats literally what also happens with Yomi.Yomi fights you in bed, and if you win she becomes totally submissive. Is it really coincidence? I think the hair tribe has a fetish in common as a racial trait...
g-give me s-soft, g-give me, warm, *squawk*
>>98768823>t. average SC fan
>>98767441gyatt damn what are they putting in the water over there to give all the women mega tits
Danamamamachi? *SQUAWK*
>>98768798>These are some of the better companion descriptions we’ve gotten.Im sorry but no. Theyre italics tier in terms of how artless they are.
BRACKMAGICK
>>98768841The first sorcerers that created the city clearly were perverts. They brough with them the biggest tits in their countries and made the city with those women.And the women sorceress, clearly created a technique to increase breast size and it was passed down through genes.I am joking but I wouldn't be surprised if something like this happened. People there being so beautiful is likely eugenics + magic from their descendants.
>>98768841it's actually visible in the cyoa if you pay attention, there are multiple basic and easy techniques to make lesser bodily alterations, it seems that in youdu getting non-invasive and biologically natural boob jobs is the same as going to a hairdresser is in real life
>>98768865But Junko is 100% natural, she was born with that in her genes.
>>98768875you can't know, a more advanced means of doing the same such as transfiguration also hits the genetics and everything
>>98768841Where do you think Aura is stored, anon? In the tits.In males its stored in the balls.
>>98768823>discorder craving that bussy again
>>98768883>In males its stored in the balls.then where does the pee go?
>>98767441>take mind splitting and forbidden false buddha>create clones>use false buddha with all clones>all clones now gain more soul>use mind splitting through the clones>repeat>grow exponentially until 99% of the city is megive me one reason why I shouldn't do this
GIL GILGIL*pecks tree*GILGIL*chews twig*GILGIL
>>98768704The tits are the only reason I've taken them, and the power. Kinda sad there's no Red Demon titmonster.
>>98768880I am not trusting words from her or hearsay. The cyoa says it.If the cyoa says she is 100% a natural prodigy in boob size, thats how it is.
>>98768888Pee is stored in the pee organ
>>98768883>In males its stored in the balls.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzgAq_-RXfs
>>98768888Pee is not stored in the balls anon... a little under your stomach there is a piss sack that stores piss.
>>98768898false buddha is a waste of points for that, if you take universal sovereign you just have infinite lifespan of the soul, while mind splitting already covers lifespan of the body
Wodan?
>>98768917>>98768898oh, also, universal sovereign is probably the only way you can get enough aura regen to expand past a hundred bodies or so, imagine your single aura system trying to support that many alchemists each doing their own thing, yikes
Imagine if anons really are just birds smacking their beaks on the keyboard
>>98768929I imagined you typing this post like a woodpecker, now what?
>>98768898False buddah doesnt give more soul, it rejuvenates it. And it would work on all bodies, as you are all connected as its literally the same person and aura system in all of them.So 1 body would do it, and all others would also become 10 years younger in both body and soul.Problem of this? Maybe at some point you will erase yourself from existence if your bodies start to become negative years old.Also, mind splitting doesn't "consume soul" just like false buddah doesn't "give soul". The first removes years of your soul lifespan if the body is destroyed. The second rejuvenates it.So, basically, I am very keen in thinking this is bait and not a genuine question because this is truly bad made and shows you didn't read those techniques.This strategy erases you if you do false buddah with all clones
>>98768903There are several red demons and all except one have big tits.
>>98768948>False buddah doesnt give more soul, it rejuvenates it.>Maybe at some point you will erase yourself from existence if your bodies start to become negative years old.>mind splitting doesn't "consume soul">false buddah doesn't "give soul"Great Divine Wronganon...
>>98768955None of them are in the same league as Suzu, Mai, Hakuma, or even Ayano. Tits should either be flat, or bigger than your head.
>>98768724>Overarching Mission:Raise E.V.A.>Relations with Other Organizations:Level 3: The Crow's Nest, Alliance of Nations, The Shadows of the Old World, Technic Union, The Black Hounds>Mech Class:Leviathan>World Changes:Introduce Magic to the World, Unlock Psionics in Humanity, Fantastical Beasts, Psionic Beasts, Abominations, Increased Geological Activities and Disasters, Special Exclusion Zones>Abilities, Perks, Magic, Psionics:all>Base:Deserted Islands, Concealment 5, Defense 1, Supply Levels 3 (Merchant Contracts), Efficiency 1, Comfort 5>Staff:Training & Improvement 1, Cohesion 5, Quality 2, Limited Horde>Mech:Vic>Quests:Liberation Day (Sheep among Wolves), The Heart of Gaia (War of the Titans), The Collective (The Three Guardians), The Bigger They Are (Mixed Signals), The Fate Machine ("Discovered")>Companions:Hilda Kiara Jameson (Magic, Psionics, Personal Mission), Jasmine Allua (Magic), Rihanna Ellias (Creativity, Magic, Personal Mission), Yulie Arvar (Creativity, Magic, Personal Mission)
>>98768971Teraba's size in the first image is bigger than her head. Just like Roubi in the second. And Faye in the first.
>>98768958My guy, I know you didn't read the techniques but at least make an argument. I explained to you why it wouldn't work. Make a counterargument or just shup up.
>>98768983no? those are all bigger than their faces, not their entire heads, you need to look at the entire head if you're saying they're bigger than their headhell, some of these aren't even bigger than faces, the second rokubi image is smaller than her face
>>98768800GRRRAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH FINE I'LL TAKE OFF CORRUPT POOL OR SOMETHING TO TAKE THEM!I need my harem of beast and monstergirl pussy! I don't care if I have to use underhanded stuff like sigils to make yomi submit.
>>98768990Honestly, there isn't much to explain? You're running headcanon. The techniques don't say they do the things you're saying, those are just your own interpretations of them, mostly because there's no strict definition of what lifespan even means in the first place. You seem to be going with one of the two common interpretations of lifespan, for most of your arguments, except you then pivot around on the negative age angle, so your interpretations of the different technique effects aren't even using the same definition of lifespan for some reason.
>>98769010SOFTIE NO DON'T REDUCE YOUR AURA FOR PUSSY!
>>98768948if my full soul is worth 100% and I put 10% into a clone and then perform false buddha my soul would reverse in age to when it was 100% again i.e both me and the clone has 100% of my soul giving me 200% soul in totalmaybe you and I have different definitions of what reversing means
Remember how you guys said Spirit Conscript's appeal otally wasn't the anime girls with huge boobs and that they had nothing to do with its popularity.
it's safest to just assume you can stack years of lifespan by just adding them, doing stupid shit with full lifespans and empty lifespans and negative lifespans is not going to get you anywhere good
>>98768850I bet you like three liners with boring pictures
>>98769029We have a guy in this thread right now shitting on the boobs.
>>98769016>there's no strict definition of what lifespan even means in the first placeThere is.>except you then pivot around on the negative age angle, so your interpretations of the different technique effects aren't even using the same definition of lifespan for some reason.False buddah doesn't give lifespan just adding a max number to the counter. It rejuvenates your body and soul.Look at Dr. Aki.Anyway, as another anon told you, Universal Sovereing is way better.
>>98769010You just need to become the chief of all of the beast clans or something. Unite them under one harem type shit.
>>98769029if it was just not-porn pics of big-titted waifus then it'd been forgotten about years ago
>>98768898Aura
>>98769039Wronganon can't even keep straight who's who anymore...
>>98769022>if my full soul is worth 100% and I put 10% into a clone Doesn't work like that.You create the clone, both share the same soul, aura and aura system.And if the clone dies, your soul lifespan gets reduced by 1 year.Its not a clone you create with a part of your soul, its literally a new body in the hivemind of your mind/soul.
>>98769041Best build for doing this without being a shapeshifter?
>>98769042Now that’s just a lying cope. Anons argue more about powers than tits.
>>98768983Nice try flattie, the washboard clan will always be inferior.
>>98769057There is no mind hivemind, wronganon. They are separate minds.
>>98768888men don't pee silly
>>98769029Go back to the discussions we had when it got out. Discussion about anime girls big tits less than 5% of it.Now one anon does a comment, we follow the conversation because this place has no other thing to talk about but niche things about spirit conscript and now revisionists want to change the history.If anything, the huge boobs hurt it. I saw more people saying they have too much size and not enough flatties compared to people saying "omg, tits bigger than my head omg"
>>98769070That's right, I just shit through my dick.
It’s so cute watching SC detractors grasp at straws trying to deny both it’s popularity and quality.
>>98768955The titlet demon should be banished
>>98769072it's still less than 5% of it
>>98769053what are you even talking about?
>>98769086The senility of wronganon is getting worse...
>>98769078They are like a tsundere scowling and looking pissed off while sucking your cock with unmatched ferocity.
>>98769079She's the most perfect one. Just spank her cute butt with a carnal body sigil while she's sleeping and her tits will grow as much as you want by the time she wakes up.
>>98769029JJKjeets lied. Don't act shocked.
>>98769069Its literally a hivemind. But you know what?I got enough of this wronganon shit. Whoever that guy was, if he even exists, got his dick deep inside all your mouths to the point you can't have a fucking discussion without it appearing.Okay, I give up this general. I will just check if a cyoa comes from reddit. You just lost another active poster. How fucking annoying you all are, one tries to have a normal discussion and all you do is try to anger each other. I will do myself a favor and never come back. Jesuschrist. When you all keep complaining about this becoming a deser you have none to blame but you all.
Big titties oni girls are a trap. PCA purposefully put them in the cyoa to distract you from focusing on your training. Only chaste anons will defeat impermanence. Mark my words.
>>98769106>"mind splitting">the minds are not split actually>no ignore that one of the companions extensively demonstrates they have separate mindsGreat Divine Wronganon, Ruler of the Celestial Fundament...fundament is another word for butt, in case you didn't get the joke
>>98769106Another redditor banished to where they came from.
>>98769079She's got a bullshit combo tho
>>98769095>they're like a bj from softie
>>98769078Wronganon, you are so cute defending your first cyoa!
>>98769106>Nothing of value was lost.
>>98769059ANSWER ME ANONS!
>>98769110Nice try, but you aren't beating my 20 wives + 160 G3 daughters
>>98769119Nice falseflagging.
>>98769121Inner Demon Chrysalis? Maybe with Signature Technique? And those that give you rule over mammals, scalies, birds.
>>98769106>*smacks your butt on the way out*It was fun raping you.
>>98769114I didnt even read the cyoa. I just believe in titlet banishment in principle.
>>98769125>Keeps trying itCool, didn't you say you were leaving the general wronganon? I am waiting.
>>98769136I don’t know where you get off pretending Spirit Conscript is bad or unpopular.
>>98769121>be sorcerer>take indoctrinating and carnal body sigilsThere. I guarantee nobody in any of the beast clans can resist this.
>>98769121Marry Futaba. Defeat her father. Pretty much it and harem.
>>98769122You can't defeat impermanence with lackies idiot. Its a personal journey that you won't experience because you're too lost in the oni ass-sauce.
>>98769057I never claimed it's not the same soul nor that the clone is a seperate person. it seems that we are arguing once again using different definitions were you assume a clone must be a seperate person and not another instance of the same person. I guess if I would allude to other media it's like the difference between the Mauler twins and Duplikate in invincible.
>>98769135No, in this CYOA you can fix them all with a 1 point ability. Unless you're an Alchemy G0 (certified jobber).
>>98769138I get off fucking up with you wronganon. I like you crying over it.
>>98769160I’m not him and i’m just vibing with SC
>>98769150Weren’t you leaving wronganon?
>>98769149>you can't defeat impermanence your own wayKofuko-san would be ashamed of you>ass-sauceExcuse me, this is a BOOBA setting.
>>98769150He's an idiot who couldn't read the cyoa and is gone now. Which is fine, because he was very unwilling to actually reexamine his preconceptions.His interpretation of lifespan were headcanon, so you can't apply them as if they're canon, even if there aren't any canon ones. He was also completely wrong about mind splitting resulting in a hive mind, only the soul and perceptions are shared, each mind is on its own and fully split otherwise.>>98769173Why are you still here, wronganon?
>>98769150nta but > were you assume a clone must be a seperate person and not another instance of the same person.he is saying the opposite. He says all clones share soul and mind, like duplikate.
>wronganon wronganon wronganon wronganon wronganon wronganonRELEASE ME
>>98769144Could softies summoner build beat her dad you think? It would probably mindbreak the clan to be dominated by an alchemist.
>>98769167if I had 1 dollar everytime someone appeared and said they were not wronganon I would have hundreds of dollars by now. You know the excuse loses its strength the more its used right?
>>98769194You'd be even more rich if you got a dollar for everytime someone new was called wronganon.
>>98769194That’s cool. Doesn’t change the fact spirit conscript is both good and popular.
wronganon accusers are more annoying than wronganon himself. Its 1 wrong guy vs 10 screeching retards. >ib4 "you're wronganon!"Yeah, yeah thanks for shitting the thread.
>>98769190>Could softies summoner build beat her dad you think? Doubt it. He is a chad anti alchemy summoners. The moment he attacks the summon the summoner will receive the damage and Sovereign's body is not resisting that kind of damage.I imagine if you want the clan to follow your lead you not only need to defeat him, but do it in his own game, core. Because the whole clan hates alchemy and majushin, fight like that and the clan is simply going to fight you to the death if push comes to shove. You need their respect.
I can't take it anymore.
>>98769200It's like i said the other day, chaosfag started slipping and getting called wronganon, so he decided to try calling any target of opportunity wronganon and see if something would stick.
>>98769198Whatever you say sweet wronganon.>>98769197Not really, he is easy to find.>>98769200I am doing God's work here. He tried leaving just now, if we keep doing this he will leave for real.
>>98769201I doubt someone who fights with their fist has anything similar to a butchery weapon.
>>98769208Yeah like a guy making the innocuous comments spirit conscript is popular kek
>>98769200Oldfags will remember that this isn't the first time this kind of thing happened. There was a period of the general where you couldn't ANYTHING without being accused of being tok. Its honestly exhausting.
>>98769211>Not really, he is easy to find.Lmao. If only you knew the multiple layers of irony here. Thanks for the laugh.
>>98769200We know who the accuser is. This shit has been going on since last friday.
>>98769201Any summoner can probably just buy an enchanted ring or something that prevents a butchery weapon from harming them. That seems like a fairly simple transmutation enchantment.
>>98769215Nowhere its said he fights only with fists. In fact, the main beast hunters are his tribe. And butchery is good in the beast hunting world.So the main job of his people would be easier with that type of weapon. And that type of weapon counters the people he hates the most in the world. I think its pretty obvious what this means.
>>98769221Sure wronganon. You are sooo hard to find. You must be proud!
>>98769237Wrong wronganon, wronganon.
>>98769208Please stop making up boogeymen. Its just making things worse. If there's any "chaosfag" its you.
>>98769221He’s calling me wronganon for stating Spirit Conscript is popular….
>>98769200>>98769222We must do something simple. Anytime someone tries to accuse someone else of being wronganon, let's assume he is baiting and stop talking. That's it. Its clear that the anon/s that keep doing this just wants attention. So dont give it.If you are angry and think the other person is dumb, just call him retard, dumbass or whatever. Name calling is stupid. We all know "wronganon" doesnt mean anything anymore if at some point it did, so whoever starts talking about it just wants to bait.
>>98769211All you're doing is making this place fucking insufferable. Who gives fuck about some lolcow who gets things wrong? Just laugh and ignore him instead of making it everyone's trouble.
>entire school of summoning os countered by a single weapon enchantmentI guess Chimera Egg os the way
>>98769244Hi there, chaosfag. Did you change your mind since posting that gloatpost the other day? Was it one or two threads ago?
>>98769256>Chimera Egg The majushin are hated for that. People want to kill them for that. If it wasn't for beast hunters everyone would have died (maybe even in the mortal world).Chimera egg should be a banned technique.
>>98769249That's what I have been doing. But this place is chock-full of retards that are incapable of recognising obvious bait.
>>98769264it probably is, but there are even worse oneschimera nucleus? unbinding of the abyss lords? a summon fusion between them?
>>98769264Yes, Beast Janny, we're very thankful. By the way, there was an outbreak recently, now go clean it up.
>>98769249If softie cant use some form of the "it's just one guy argument" he might actually die.
>>98769258Thanks for proving my point faggot.
>>98769273I mean yeah, anything that is related to making chimeras, enhancing chimeras and bringing up chtulu should be banned.It probably isn't because people dont want to anger the majushin. The only thing stopping my build from killing them all Kill Bill style is some waifus from there like the triplets and Aki.But for sure I would not be their ally.
>check into /cyoag/ after a week>recognize it's another dead week of no OC>see the same arguments that have already been done to death a 1000 times over>close tab and determine to look again next friday>repeat ad nauseam
>>98769297it isn't banned in the same sense nukes aren't bannedwhat are you going to do about them, attack the guy with nukes? bring the actual nuke in from mortal world and make everything worse?then there's also the fact that these are super rare techniques that almost nobody knows anyway
>>98769264>Everyone wants to kill you>Your clan is still the strongestYep, Chimera Egg is the way
>>98769279Okay, I will take my hair tribe waifus and leave the city. I will return to the mortal world.Nobody stops the chimeras, they kill the city and the mortal world while I plap plap my harem hidden where you will never know.
>>98769304The standard cycle of cyoag samsara. You wait to reincarnate one day, and your trigger is a cyoa that you like. Once it's gone, you go back into samsara. It's like there's these little separate generals because people who like the same cyoas always talk to each other and not the other people who like other cyoas.
>>98769304You know its over when the optimal way of engaging with a place is to not do so at all. What a garbage general.
>>98769306>what are you going to do about them, attack the guy with nukes?but chimeras are not like nukes. They are more like a plague. You do stop people trying to start a plague.The danger of the technique comes from an invasor species with universal and quick breeding and killing insticts>then there's also the fact that these are super rare techniques that almost nobody knows anywayyou still should ban it and any chimeras seen must be killed, not before finding who created it if its traceable.
>>98769309You won't, you will stay like a good little Janny with your unc leader while I make chimeras and impregnate your rich successful princess.
Who the fuck is "softie" like seriously.
>>98767441Do you think something like Isolate (temporary blocks external aura replenishment with things like Aura Draining, Aura Transference and rituals of worship) custom commandment is possible for default Noble Commandment, or you need to go for Signature Technique on it?
>>98769307its the strongest because of 2 guys reaching legend status, nothing to do with chimeras. In fact, if they didn't make chimeras at all, they probably would be the strongest clan and not hated to this point, so the rest of people would not try to stop them from getting more power like now.Chimeras ended up hurting everyone.
>>98769331I already left, btw, that chimera you are fucking has an STD as it fucked a rat before you. What tou noticed on your dick wasn't lubricant but rat's cheese if you catch what I mean.
>>98769330>They are more like a plague. You do stop people trying to start a plague.no, a plague can be quarantined against, it doesn't attack you like godzillaalso biological weapons are still a thing in real life too, so the nuke logic also still applies with plagues>you still should ban ithow nigga howchemical/biological/nuclear aren't banned in real life, there's no authority to do the banning, yudi and yama are about as cucked as the united nations for these purposes
>>98769339You don't get it, and alchemists path is to discover, if they didn't had the drive that made everyone make chimeras, they would've have ascended. Stick to Core, bro.
>>98769336A meme that's gotten way out of control. Would you believe if I said it all started from a Hero Academy build?
>>98769206The voices... they keep yelling about "softie" and "wronganon"... they're getting louder...!
>>98769304DON'T LEAVE ME ALONE WITH THEM
>>98769356Um no. Flow are actually the nerds who care about discovering things. Alchemists are theater kids with charisma as their special power. They only care about discovering new STDs.
>>98769337I dont know how signature technique works but its probably doable with the normal technique, but the kind of technique that works better against people not that strong.Maybe it stops you from regenrating X aura amount, and if your body would have been able to regenerate that amount of aura, the curse is lifted.Probably one of the hardest and most costly commands
>>98769346Of course little bro, live alone there in an auraless world and die by getting shot while the other beast jannies work here. After the work is do easy that even some restaurant owner can do it lol.
Here's the first sighting of Softie. The build patient zero if you will:https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/94740080/#q94747395
I swear this place was relatively normal maybe a week or two ago, at least by CYOAG standards. How did it get so bad so quickly? What was the trigger?
I'm not really following the current conversation since i'm working on my stuff and playing CS but I asked PCA the other day some questions relevant to chimeras. Here's picrel for you guys to do with as you will.
>>98769366>>98769337signature technique is unnecssary for this, you can just develop new abilities under noble commandment and oblative gestures, especially if you have high technique artistry, however if you do start with special technique for this purpose it's perfectly plausible it would work, aura inhibiting darts and cursing needles are already doing similar things and those are items, this is just a new vector for itif you think it's unbalanced then make it cost 12 aura to cast or something
>softie>wronganon>jeetaSomeone make a poopdickschizo CYOA, I have no idea who are those supposed to be
>>98769354>also biological weapons are still a thing in real life too, so the nuke logic also still applies with plaguesbiological weapons are used in wars between countries. Countries do not people create their custom biological weapons in their houses and release them.What I am saying is the City should have banned chimeras, because as you said its a biological weapon that could have already destroyed the city if it wasn't for guys dedicating themselves to culling them.>how nigga howFirst, you ban it. Right now its legal as long as the chimera is not far from you. Just ban it. Its ilegal.Find and destroy the place where they destroy the information of chimera egg and techniques like that. if you find any chimera in city do investigations, if a sorcerer can be linked prison or execution.Its not going to be 100% infallible but its way better than "do it but beware okay? you already almost killed all us so don't make it too risky again :)"
>>98769377>2025yeah maybe if you’re a newfag. He was here long before that
>>98769388>softieDark Sovereign as seen in >>98769382. He's a very sensitive boy and a lot of anons like to flirt with him and protect him as their princess.>wronganonHot potato term thrown around by anons trying to call each other deliberately wrong. The guy who was actually deliberately wrong in the context the name was first used ran for the hills ages ago and is probably still laughing his ass of about this.>jeetaSome retard who keeps arguing that there is no such thing as magic and everything is physics, even in settings that explicitly have magic. Couldn't help constantly bringing that bullshit up, but isn't as bad as he used to be these days.
>>98769382So chimeras are basically giga jobbers.
>>98769382This is funny considering things like Inhuman Evolution that also say "biological" and yet let you do pretty crazy shit.
>>98769404I know that. But that's when people started calling him "Softie".
>>98769379People created a new name and became paranoid. Lesson to learn from this, namefagging anons is stupid.
>>98769379Spirit Conscript regaining popularity. It brings out the worst in anons for some reason. I've never seen OR discussions get this toxic.
>>98769382Yeah, basically, no aura. Just physical juggernauts.Which is why you all better hope we kill the majushin before they give souls to chimeras, start breeding between themselves and now all chimeras have souls and aura techniques.A chimera ant situation.
>>98769433>Which is why you all better hope we kill the majushin before they give souls to chimeras, start breeding between themselves and now all chimeras have souls and aura techniques.I don't think having a soul is a breedable trait.
>>98769411>The guy who was actually deliberately wrong in the context the name was first used ran for the hills ages agoyou are right I am. I just read the discussions at this point. There is no point in joining if you all bring me what I wanted
>>98769424OR split the fucking thread. This is child’s play by comparison.
>>98769396you're making the classic mistake of assuming a higher authority exists who will do what you want, there is no such thing in spirit conscriptthis is the problem people unused to geopolitcs always run into when they think that treaties can just magically be enforced between countries even though there's no higher authority who'll come down and force a country to obey the lawthe different factions effectively are different countries, because there is no authority that they need to bow to, that's how it works>Just ban it. Its ilegal.that does nothing, it's just words, you need an authority to actually enforce the ban for it to be meaningfulif the united states says north korean nukes are illegal, north korea just laughs
>>98769379>relatively normalAnd by normal do you mean mostly dead? What is happening now is infinitely preferable to our usual milking of lolcows.
>>98769447Stop with this shit already. Its not funny.
Spirit Conscjeets should be exiled into their own thread
>>98769442Who knows. We only know that beings with souls breeding do create beings with souls.And we also know that chimeras, that do not have souls, breeding doesn't create souls.So the conclusion I can reach is that for a being to have a soul, is either given one by a technique or born from beings with souls. So I think its possible and higly dangerous.
>>98769433That was Dark Sovereign's entire chimeralord strategy, he had signature techniques in like chimera egg, soul coagulation and vessel transfer and was giving them super powerful humanoid chimera bodies + powerful souls + powerful alteration arrays like perfect meridians and shit.
>>98769449OR did not split the thread.
>>98769463Jeet this jeet that how about you ejeet yourself off a building
What were the best and worse discussions we had around a CYOA here? I remember OR, Entropist, Magi Case, and Dawn of the Demon Lord lasted for quite a bit. And none of them had so much name calling.
>>98769449I'll argue the opposite. mcyoafags at least had the decency to take their shit elsewhere.
>>98769470Why lie?
>>98769424it's because Spirit Conscript explicitly assumes anon vs anon is the purpose of builds this will naturally make anons argue relentlessly for why *they* would beat up the other anon
>>98769449Someone tried to make a split happen for OR and failed.
>>98769456>What is happening now is infinitely preferable to our usual milking of lolcows.So... nothing changed? because that's literally what's happening right now.
>>98769442Fetish are the DNA of the soul, as we discussed AND PROVED earlier >>98768800Fetish are inheritable. The hair tribe has a domination fetish that turns into submission and worshipping when conquered by a stronger mate.If their fetish, the DNA of their souls, is a breedable trait. What is not?Thanks for coming to my philosophical talk
>>98769424You could say we're "cultivating" toxicity.
>>98769388sorry I'm making an author cyoa rn
>>98769467He was courting death then. He was going to create something out of his control and die. Hopefully not dooming everyone else.
>>98769416that's actually a really strong synergy between chimera egg and inhuman evolutionjust use your own science fiction biology genes to grow the chimeras from, they'll be a xenomorph plague in no time
>>98769483At least now it is directly related to cyoa discussions.
>>98769481That’s literally the origin of mcyoag tho?
>>98769491Why would his creation hate him? He was going to raise a beautiful daughter…
>>98769491That's 100% in character for him. Every build he makes turns out like that.
>>98769459i stopped. Which is what makes all of this funny, I have been almost totally silent like 5 or 6 days by now except making a joke or two. But never contributed to this thing. It spiraled out of control, if it makes you feel better, I got tired of it, it was pretty funny the first days, now its kinda meh, if you all stop by yourselves I wont try to continue it, so it depends on the thread
>>98769491IIRC you can fully design souls personalities and proclivities, imbue unbreakable commands into vessels, and he was using indoctrinating sigil to reinforce the mind control and carnal to physically prevent them from breeding without his consent. He had a lot of failsafes.
>>98769472Entropist was pretty bad from what I remember. No because the discussion was toxic but because of how ridiculously overbearing it was. You literally couldn't anything but talk about entropist for a month. It even affected the board by clogging the catalogue from the sheer threads that were being made daily.
>>98769506Can you even name one other build of his that could make something to damn us all?
>>98769503lets say his daughter was, somehow, totally loyal, and the rest of descendants? one if one escapes and breeds with a rat or something? its the kind of thing you just need 1 non loyal chimera, or one slip, mistake, to fuck up permanently the whole thing
>>98769496During Worm, way later
>>98769491does every son kill his father? do all daughters seek to end their mother? no! most of them will obey and why would his children be any different?
>>98769496That wouldn't make sense. That kind of multiplayer is too different.
>>98769514Softie is a big proprietor of not wanting kids but really wanting to fuck, carnal sigil does that.
>>98769512Yeah, his spirit subjugation build. >low IQ retard tries to subjugate spirit trump and spirit putin because he doesn't understand anything, will inevitably die trying but was given enough power to set off world war 3 by a giggling chaosfag in the background
>>98769522>Softie is a big proprietor of not wanting kids but really wanting to fuckThat's what the gay sex is for.
>>98769522Paladin was the family oriented one.
>>98769510maybe, but nothing is without a weakness. For example, imagine a rival sorcerer realizes all of this, kidnaps one of the, gives them the bath to remove the mind control and either puts his own or uses it against him by feeding the kidnapped rage. Or just remove the sigil, put aphodisiacs and make them breed. Or remove the sigil and rape or...you catch it.No plan or technique is flawless and in his case falling is bye bye
>>98769533I now see you’re just determined to pretend he loses every-time.
>>98769511Eh, it wasn't really that much for that long. There also wasn't much else to talk about at the time iirc
>>98769533>For example, imagine a rival sorcerer realizes all of this, kidnaps one of the, gives them the bath to remove the mind control and either puts his own or uses it against him by feeding the kidnapped rageThat requires them to capture what amounts to a perfect meridians conscript, and things like vessel transfer stopping their body from breeding stops that. The best they're getting is a DNA sample.
idk why anybody wouldn't just run insurgent in spirit conscript, the city is hopelessly doomed anyway and inciting total sectarian conflict takes essentially no effort
>Chimera EggWeak, socially shunned, soulless, no aura>Carnal Spirit Sigil, with Harem and LimitlessStrong, socially approved, creates beautiful soulfull G3 people who will expand your dynasty, full of aura
what sc builds are like this?
>>98769559You assume that the real powers of the city won't quickly get wise to your trickery and reduce you to ash first before going at each other's throats again. Nobody likes an opportunistic cockroach.
>>98769559Because you don't gain anything from it? What's the point of doing that?
>>98769546I dont care if he does X or Y with his build. But this chimera one is obviously dagenrous for everyone in the whole city.
>>98769564>Alchemylets vs Corechads
>>98769578TRVTHNUKE
>>98769559it would mean I don't get to do Ruin Raider as a campaign.
>>98769574this is literally the purpose of you being summoned, the point is in completing the task to which your superiors have set for you
>>98769559I just want harem, friends and go out. I dont need to kill anyone.Just give me my harem hoarding and secondary quests.
>>98769578>>98769564>"nooooo I need perfect ingredients and specific rituals or my plan won't woooork!">"Hmm dumbbells."
Summer has come and passed The innocent can never last Wake me up when September ends
>>98769598Okay... and? Even if you make it fiat that that's what conscription you get and can't just choose a different one... why go through it? Why not abandon it? You aren't mind controlled. Kofuko won't give a shit, as per the loredoc. Why complete this task? What do you get out of it? Wouldn't an intact Youdu give you more techniques to learn, wiafus to fuck, etc.?
>>98769578>alchudmist when you don't give them 4 months of prep time before a fight
>>98769611
>>98769617Like my father's come to passSeven years has gone so fastWake me up when September ends
>>98769624
>>98769613because that is what it means to complete your duty to your superiors, you follow orders and live with a clean conscience that you did the right and virtuous thing, something most modern zoomers don't understand
>>98769649Golem-kun... I kneel...
>>98769614>"muh preptime!"Are alchemyfags just batjeets?
>>98769649>t. Israel's strongest soldier
>>98769659theyre entrosissies
>>98769668weak bait
>>98769655>>98769665Anons are proud of accumulating negative karma it seems
>>98769671>bait
>>98769673if you collect enough negative karma you'll experience an integer underflow giving you maximum positive karma
>>98769673Karma won't mean shit after I usurp Yama/Youdi as the king of heaven and hell.
>>98769674entropist builds aren’t prep time merchants
>>98769467I'm on the fence between signature technique vessel transfer or signature technique master status transfiguration, the other two are definitely chimera egg + soul coagulation. Which do you guys think?
>he thinks he needs to go to a protracted war to make karma irrelevant when he could have just bought universal sovereign from the start
>>98769611now I feel depressed
>>98769712For what purpose are you using them?
>>98769719It's for my chimeralord build, the other anons already accurately described what I was doing.
>>98769723I mean what are you using the signature technique for specifically. Assuming that's what you're deciding.
>>98769727Vessel transfer or master status transfiguration?
>>98769710they are, literally every entropist build relies on "well if you give me one trillion years to farm souls im strong!"
>>98769731Are you trolling me? Because it's starting to work.
>>98769716Join the SC discussion. You'll probably get annoyed but anger is better than sadness and after a while you will enjoy the tension
>>98769733The builds are incredibly frontloaded and can “prep” practically on spawn by culling everyone within x mile radius
>>98769715Universal Eunuchs don't have dicks therefore they're cringe and gay. Sorry.
>>98769751>and can “prep” practically on spawn by culling everyone within x mile radiusWhich is roughly 0.0000000001% of the souls you need to do anything remotely impressive power wise with the cyoa. Just planeswalking out takes like 50k souls.
>>98769731depends on if you want to focus on flesh or aura use. For fleshmaxing transfiguration, but if your planning on making them aura users then vessel transfer as you can probably increase the amount of alterations they can hold and stuff like limitless meridians and prodigy are pretty op.
>>98767441what is the point of false buddha if you can just pick the spirit option and become completely immortal instead?
>>98769782Planes walking is one of the most expensive things. It’s okay I see you’re just determined to maintain your answer
>>98769795>Planes walking is one of the most expensive things.Lol. Anon did you read the costs? Physically empowering yourself easily uses up orders of magnitude more souls in a tiny amount of time. Assembling any sort of real undead horde likewise.
>>98769792if you don't want to become a spirit and lose your natural aura regen. Its also half the price.
Imagine you're having a good time relaxing in Pluto's dreamscape and a True Son walks up to you showing off their Sith Lightsaber
>>98769809just make back up bodies, you know using the abilities you can buy in earlier parts.>inb4 I won't be able to have the other abilities thenyou are literally immortal just study and learn the normal way instead of having Kofuko-san shove the knowledge into your head
>>98769792Forbidden false buddah cost half as much.It's like Consummate Self-Incarnation has as one of its effects a better version of Blood Offering to the Glory God but costs 3 points more.
>>98769809That only happens after you die. If you die with false buddha, you lose a lot more. Just don't die.
>>98767441Small Chimeralord redo based on demand.>RaceHuman>PotentialOverpowered>Scenario Age of Truth>ConscriptionCustom>Home TerritoryAnahata Precinct>Benevolent AlterationsPure PoolProdigyPerennial LotusSignature Technique (Chimera Egg)Signature Technique (Vessel Transfer)Signature Technique (Soul Coagulation)>Malignant AlterationsHellfire DebtOld Grudges>Ambivalent AlterationCharismaticMagmatic>Aura SystemVast Generalist>Recovery DispositionNutritionLust>Aura AffinitiesCore G0Phase G1Flow G3Alchemy G3>Aura Pool35>TrainingCultivation - MasterTechnique Artistry - LegendCeremony - MasterTactics - LegendInvestigation - LegendScholarship (Science, Medicine) - LegendDeceit - MasterTinkering - Master>Basic Release TechniquesSense AuraBody EnhancementSummon Rite—Monarch of FeathersSummon Rite—Monarch of ScalesSummon Rite—Monarch of HairSummon Rite—Monarch of ShellsCarnal Body Sigilindoctrinating Body SigilHerbal Lunar PoolSense Enhancement >Great Release TechniquesMannequin ServantcraftPanacea SpecialistMaster Status—Transfiguration>Legendary Release TechniquesChimera EggVessel TransferSoul Coagulation>EquipmentDisguising JingasaFalse Ocular CoveringsFacial Breathing ClothDiscerning Traditional GarmentsNoble Modern FormalsImpersonating Solemn UniformShaman's KundalaWaidan Miracle PillsQuicksilver Immortality PillsPart 1/2
>>98769804If you go for more than double your strength or so. The big benefit in Physical Empowerment is the passive athletic boost, but most anons are too fat and lazy to take advantage of it without opting into a Death Lord or other combat-focused form.>>98769816Gah, now I'm imagining Dream Sons hunting for the MGE world. That place has got to be Prince corrupted, right? Fuck, it might even be very nearby earth.
>based on demand.kek, he really believes his own hype doesn't he?
>>98769837>Allied SectsThe Red Demon ClanThe House of CatacombJiahao, The Warrior Dynasty>Foe SectsThe Blue Demon ClanThe Feather TribeThe Six-Finger Mafia>Nemesis'sMajushin, The Sorcerer DynastyThe Hellion MobThe Solar Trigram Cult>SectNew Sect (Heiyuanjiao (dark + garden + cult))>Sect AdvantagesGruntsSpecialists (Special Advantage)Creatures >CampaignsFiller ArcGhost at the PartyThe Mogul in WaitingChimera BurrowsThe Oppression of the AbyssThe Last DragonSecond ExtinctionThe Big KillsNight of the Lantern BugsTreasure BugsGreyflesh CullingHumanoid ChimerasLost in LimboRuin RaiderPerson of Interest: The Last Son of NinokataPerson of Interest: Shen Roh, Mafia DragonPerson of Interest: The Tenth Magistrate of HellPerson of Interest: The Golden Centennial AvatarRegicide>CompanionsMing YueJawbone>RivalsDr. AkiOnoKohana, Kohaku, KoharuSame plan as before, sell medical and protection services by making armies of mannequinns and ensouled chimeras to do my bidding, and do a little conquering in the meantime. My super chimeras are basically other conscripts, probably done with talented or such if I wanted to actually build them.
>>98769818>>98769827well its mostly a problem when does it count as dying? Like it says when your mortal body dies so does switching vessels count as your mortal body dying? Is it when your original body dies? Because it has these possible edge cases which I personally wouldn't want to risk.
Am I missing something with anons saying False Buddha makes you immortal? The name itself has "False" on it because it doesn't actually do that, it just prolongs your life at best.
>>98769846He demanded it, then he posted it.
>>98769853When a mortal would go into hell before their reincarnation or a spirit would go into the spirit womb. It's not ambiguous. All those body switching techniques don't matter for it.>>98769861It can prolong it indefinitely. The note about it not being viable long-term just refers to you probably fucking up enough rituals in a row some day for it to fall through, since the ritual is very strenuous. If false buddha isn't immortality then perennial lotus isn't either, since that also has conditions to fail. And if conditions where it fails are a problem, even universal sovereign plus vampire body aren't true immortality. May as well just make the 4x legend status 4x special technique build to make yourself truly immortal at that point.
>>98769379Softie got humiliated for being gay again and then some anon said his build was shit. Since then its been a week of nonstop "wow im so based i rape you sar but im not the one posting this btw". Go back and look if you doubt me.
>>98769889You're samefagging more than he supposedly does.
>>98769861it pretty much is if you have mind splitting as even if you fail the ritual you won't die and can just do it with another body.
Softie effortlessly mindbreaks anons
>>98769879So it explicitly rejuvenates your soul too? From what I remember the problem was rhe Soul's "lifespan", not the body's.
>>98769889This narrative is getting both really old and boring.
>>98769897A failed ritual doesn't do anything to you.>>98769906Yeah. When it's not specified it's both. For example look at the second and arguably more important part of lifegiving immolation blessing. You can give both soul and body lifespan to others. Now if you have a means of replenishing your own, or just an infinity of both of them (universal sovereign + vampire body), you can freely give it out no problem.
>>98769918I don't think that's the case at all. Otherwise anyone with False Buddha would have been said to have escaped impermanence, but that's not what the lore says.
>>98769896>he said the line again
>>98769926They haven't escaped it. They still have limited lifespan. They just keep pushing it back. That's what makes it false.
>>98769926they haven't escaped they are just going back 10 years at a time which if they keep repeating would ensure they never actually get closerit's kinda like being on a conveyor belt that is leading to a big piston that will crush you but as long as you keep running then you'll never end up underneath it
>>98769916No it's not. It's actually pretty fresh. Wasn't the old narrative just blaming whoever looks like "wronganon" for all the outbursts? This makes more sense.
>>98769926Anon, souls don't last thousands of years, somethings false buddahs can explicitely do.
Fuck Softie, his supporters and his haters. I'm tired of you drama whores making this place a dumpster. I hope everyone one of you dies a painful death.
>>98769986ty
>>98769916 The whole wronganon nonsense has a start date which we can easily see and like half the fucking posts are "softie rapes anon hehe". Youre not fooling anybody, just exhausting them with your shit.
>>98769986>can only seethe as they take his thread gf for a spin lmao
>>98769986The needless drama is really annoying, but it comes and goes in cycles. Sooner or later anons will forget about it.
>>98769926Impermanence is only theoretically escaped in a shit way by universal sovereign because if you die and gestate a million years in the spirit womb before returning you still remember everything from before dying and your soul is the same. That's the only form of escaping impermanence currently available to you in the cyoa. This is because escaping impermanence is defined in a retarded way for the sake of immortality discussions. It's much more useful as an excuse for how techniques are made, since all of them are supposed to be attempts at escaping impermanence, and having the topic be comlicated allows for comlicated techniques.
>>98769999Digits confirm
60 aura more like 60 iq if he thinks it isn't obvious
>>98770002What the fuck are you even taking you blithering retard? Are you so far gone in your drama whoring that you can't fathom someone who doesn't give fuck about your tranny theatrics and just wants a drama-free thread?
>>98770058yeah i'm sure that's what he meant, don't worry about it anon
I pity anyone who genuinely thinks Softie is some dark mastermind samefagging and inciting chaos.
>>98770081don't worry, nobody thinks he's a mastermind
Just like Tok it's best to ignore the attention whore
>>98770093People would rather blame him for others and seethe.
>>98770093Speaking of tok, are there any good cyoas that let you be a lewd bastard? Something with lewd powers or representation that isnt explicitly a cyoar cyoa
>>98770138>>98767441
>>98770147I like it, any more?
Poll will be lateAlso... When exactly did we re merge with mcyoag? Is there anything ideological about that or did people just move?
>>98770150???
>>98770176I said I want more... I'm still hungry, and want some more...
>>98769112KKK (was that intentional), is using a modified version of the technique.
>>98767441I realized I needed g1 Flow as well to be perceptive, so build rework. The downside of being a specialist is worse than I thought. This time I did what I could to be a proper Ninokata member.>Body – Human>Potential – Mutated (35 AP, 5 EP, 4M,3B)>Conscription – Surveyor (2 campaigns, +4 EP)>Benevolent AlterationsPure Pool -racialProdigy +2Eccentric +6Signature Technique (Ronin’s Dead Eye) -0>Malignant AlterationsAge Disjunction +5Hellfire Debt +4Genderswap +3Trouble Magnet +5Magmatic – Eccentric +0Rivals +9>Aura System Vast Specialist -10>Meridian Expansions8 aura -10>Recovery DispositionsMeditationNutrition>Aura AffinitiesCore – g3 -3Phase- g3 -3Flow – g1 +0Alchemy g0 +1>TrainingMartial Arts Legend -7Investigation Initiate -2>Release TechniquesSense Aura -0Body Enhancement -0Initiate Status – Oscillating Motion (phase g1) -potentialInitiate Status – Resolute Center (core g1) -potentialCloudy Spirit Hand (flow g1) -1Secret Martial Art – Needle that Pierces the Soul -15Ronin’s Dead Eye (any g3) -18>EquipmentWeighted Straps -3 EPNinja Tabi -3 EPLockpicks -2 EPFacial Breathing Cloth -1 EP>FactionsMember- Ninokata -1Ally- JiahaoFoe- Hellion Mob>New SectInconspicuous – special advantagespecialistssecrets>CampaignsTechnique CollectionRuin Raider >RivalsOnoChimakoKansuke
>>98769215You know this is a bit of a lore inconsistency. A LOT of clans hate summoners are there is this AMAZING anti-summoner trait but it's treated as an after thought. Youdu would be OBSESSED with it.
>>98770208You'd probably be better off taking a different G3 than core
>>98769230They probably give the tribe a pass on learning Beloved Name Blessing too, even though they reject alchemy.
>>98769306>super rare techniques that almost nobody knows anywayA fastfood restaurant is using the ability
>>98770192The technique tells you you share senses and memories, not thoughts or impulses. You can't have one body's brain control another body, and each body's mind focuses on its own body's circumstsances. Your minds are split. If it were a true hive mind technique, it would tell you so, instead of being specific about which parts of the mental experience are shared.KKK's modification is that the minds have different personalities rather than only being split. You could do that yourself if you wanted to as well, without special technique or anything. I actually hung a quirk of personality on that fact in one of my builds, and decided that the different minds are slightly too different.
>>98770187>>98767494
>>98770244A child built a nuclear reactor in the back yard of his home.
>>98770258this one makes me feel tired...
>>98769382>Chimeras don't have soulsCore Legend Beasthunter FTW!
>>98770234core has so many fun abilities though. What if I want to learn Efflorescence of Monstrosity and fit 160,000 pounds of muscle in a normal body?
>>98768239I remember reading this CYOA 15 years ago on Facebook, it's crazy how time flies.
>>98769559Insurgent/Warsmith are edgy trap options. If you actually hate the city a Bloodyfog Stalker is a way better choice. 3ep ain't worth it.
>>98770234>>98770282core is the best pair for phase
>>98770307Nay, Flow makes you faster and Alchemy has better hax
>>98770208>The downside of being a specialist is worse than I thoughtBeen there. People complain about Limitless Meridians but alchemy and flow are still really appealing to the core/phase specialist. If we had a stronger system that allowed (G3, G3, G1 G1 (or even a bit better)) we wouldn't have so many limitless meridians.
Only Core has defense against instalose abilities. Everyone else just loses against bullshit like Hypnotist’s Spiral Eye or Perfect Perspective. It is quickdraw meta for them.
>>98770259And they took it away from him, no one seems to care that Kikuro is making bioweapon burgers.
>>98770282I love core but secretly core needs phase, but phase doesn't actually need core.
>>98770328A bunch of my builds would dump core if not for IOTH
>>98770081Softie is a dumb bimbo thirsty for male attention
>>98770328Instalose abilities are also why Purebodys are jobbers. They have no chance against them.
>>98770343I can’t imagine building a martial without it.
>>98770348And the author dunked on both softie/ purebodyfag’s more aura better logic
>>98767441I call this one the useless immortal bum23 aura, but it's actually 13 due to universal sovereign>undead>Challenged>Satya Yuga>fuck it let's be a cop>Eccentric, Vampire body>quirk of personality (very lazy, wouldn't pursue a foe), Age Disjunction (young, I will age out of this right?)>Shallow Specialist (because I actually want some AP so I can buy stuff)>sleep>initiate cultivation for some extra aura>sense aure, body enhancement (I probably don't need to specify these, they are free so everyone will take them)>Core G1>multitude of the heavenly ladle (because... y'know...)>Harionago's Locks (I need at least some ability to defend and attack and this does both with some added mobility, it's great when you are on a budget)>Alchemy G3>Legend Status - Universal Sovereign>Equipment>False Ocular Coverings (anti-ninja-smokescreen)>Facial Breathing Cloth (imagine getting killed because you took a single whiff of something)>bottomless Gourd (endless stuff storage!)>disguising Jingasa (so I don't get jumped in public (well not because of my identity at least))>Campaigns>Technique Collection (I am going to live forever so I have plenty of time)>the Jade Sovereign's Orthodoxy (pretty sure this is the guy I'm working for as an overseer)>fuck it throw in some filler arcs
>>98770331Yeah, and what about all the other random nuclear reactors you don't know about because nobody took them away from the randos who built them so there was never a media sensation?
>>98770353Same
>>98770317flow doesn't make you faster unless you mean a specific technique like the lightseepd one, and speed isn't something phase of all things needs help withphase is going to focus on physical combat, the best pair for that is always core, why hit like a wimp when you could hit a million times (literally) harder
>>98770374It isn't the fucking Fallout universe. People are wearing out the name but you really are wronganon
>>98770380He might have meant mentally
>>98770382>it may have happened once in this famous case but it could never ever happen more than once because i say so okay!?Look up what perception bias means.
>>98770376building one without it is basically begging to be sorcerer fodder
>>98770317Inner Demon Chrysalis, which only needs g1, lets the transformation "possess any biological faculties and processes from nature, with creativity permitted for interesting combinations and mutations". I think its possible that g3 transformation abilities can at least moderately improve lacking intellect and perception with a long enough effort on mastering and improving the technique.
>>98769842>The big benefit in Physical Empowerment is the passive athletic boostWhich takes AEONS to be useful. Which is once again my point. For physical empowerment to be significant you need either a lot of souls (to manually boost stats) or a LOT of prep time (to "level up" your base tier). sons are - at base - pretty low tier, but have enough avenues of theoretically infinite (if really inefficient) scaling that they can (given enough time) get strong.
>>98770389Agreed anon. The setting doesn't acknowledge how bad certain abilities really are, but as a PVP setting we certainly do (and we would 100% encounter these abilities as a result).
>>98770380Why bother with Core when only ISS, The Effigy, Halted objects and maybe Gates of the Heavenly Prison can stop Paradox Point? Phase has the best attack as well.
>>98770380>why hit like a wimpThere are several really cool ways to get around that like Celestial Alignment
>>98770380I mean in the sense that there are a bunch of flow techniques that can boost speed.>phase is going to focus on physical combat,Nah, Phase is way better off focusing on bullshit hax like Paradox Point or Needle. Even if you DO want to hit really hard Flow can also do that. The big strength of Core is its defense, which is way less useful when you're built to never get hit in the first place.
>>98770355The author basically just said it doesn't scale as hard as they potentially thought, not that they are wrong.
>>98770412it's debatable how strong it is because you have to make a judgement call on how it interacts with aura-born resilience, like take for example an interaction with living world refolding, how many layers do you think it could eateven if it is as strong as you assume, it's still half your aura pool invested into a single attack that you presumably lose track of after throwing off once
Core is legitimately hard carried by Illumination of the Heart and Invincible Shokushinbutsu Stance compared to the other two.
>>98770436>he said my idea was wrong but he didn't call ME wrong :)
>>98770436Yea more aura is of course better and a pure body with say 30 aura devoted is better than a similar one with 20 aura devoted
>>98770447Yes. And because more aura is better, there is nothing left to discuss. The only thing you need is aura. Because more aura is better.
>>98769747>Method of entranceLocket plus 1 point more for me being the only able to activate . 168>Outdoors typeBeachLakefront Archipelago153>AddonsWildlifeTreesWaterfallsHotspringsRiversAbandoned buildingsPrecious mineralsTreasuresSky bodies143>indoorsLiving roomKitchenBedroomBathroomsGuesroomsGaming roomIndoor poolHome GymScience laboratory medbay 95>CompanionNursex2 81Housewifex3 57Femboy bf x2 41Loli x3 17Maid x1 10 Multipurpose android (fighting, personality) 0Easy, an harem of 9 members, 7 breedable to populate the islands. The femboys are mainly to have gaming bros but I guess I can personalize them enough to be attractive.Lolis will be 1 flat mesugaki, 1 oppai loli, 1 roleplaying as a country cousin oppai.Nurses are Tsumiki so dynamite body but submissives, 2 of them so one treats the other if she got fever.The housewives based on Lala Deviluke, Shera Greenwood, Kirie from girl bravo,Maid will help around the house, Rem galleu or Rem if I can't get the cat ears and tail.Harem life, easy. No complications needed
>>98770443Yea, especially when you realize all the lower level stuff foolishly makes you vulnerable to touch attacks.
>>98770445What? All PCA said was that no starting build could take on the Trigram out of the gate. That doesn't mean softie and pureboy don't get stronger by putting more aura into the abilities that get stronger with more aura in them.
>>98770436>>98770447>>98770450Author clarified whether you’re dumping 60 into a spirit or 40 into pure body you’re not scaling to the point of being untouchable.
>>98770450Not what I said. I was agreeing with anon, better doesn't mean it's the best option.
>>98770459>core is hard countered by corenever really thought about that
>>98770429I assumed needle still needed scaling with strength for the number of hits it takes to sever tougher souls.
>>98770459except that one molten armor
>>98767441here's my yandere wrangler build, inspired by the discussion of yomi and futaba having similar hair tribe dominance fetishes
>>98770477Not just core but my point is all the cool tanky abilities assume you are taking damage in the first place which isn't true for other affinities defenses. They even discourage armor in many cases which could have been a layer of protection against touch attacks.
>>98770484One of my favorite abilities actually.
>>98770493This is actually mostly a problem with alchemy martial arts. They all assume the target is trying to tank them with core resilience. Outside of that they suddenly suck ass. In the world where you're comparing one affinity against another and they can't dip, it's less of a problem for core than it is for alchemy.
>>98770468But it does scale. Once again the truth is somewhere in the middle.
>>98770460Softie and purebodyfag were assuming they scaled several orders of magnitude harder than they really do.
>>98770504Yes which was something we all knew but they were denying.
>>98770504https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation
>>98770507Link to a post that was denying it. I want to see it.
>>98770505Sure but both basically acquiesced to PCAs ruling, that doesn't mean that they were wrong about their gameplan or more aura being good for their choices, just that it doesn't scale as hard as they thought it did.
>>98770502>Outside of that they suddenly suck ass.Yea they suck to have to consider as a core user but aren't effective if you can't actually touch the phase user or are blocked by a layer of conduction modes.Real alchemy builds are rarely martial artist anyway though.
>>98770505why did they ever think something that retardedi'm seriously asking here, where does that sort of idea come fromyou can't just say stupidity or retardedness, that's avoiding the issuei want to know what causes it
>>98770468> or 40 into pure body you’re not scaling to the point of being untouchable.nta but he didn't say this.The answer of PCA was about enhancing a spirit. Didn't touch purebody.40 purebody is obviously not untouchable but nobody said that.
>>98770478That kind of defeats the whole point of Needle,. Even if that's true, if you're fast you can just hit them more.
>>98770513You want me to find the post where you claimed you scaled so hard it made you the best martial? Seemed to be the crux of your argument whilst denying any attempts to scale it back
>>98770533I accept your concession.
>>98770529They’re operating on the same logic and purebodyfag used softie’s initial questions which supported him as part of the claim.
>>98770508Not really a fallacy when everyone here always jumps to one extreme or another.
>>98770537I don’t know why you think I can’t find it considering you spent half a thread regurgitating it but I’ve got you once I’m out.
>>98770539That's the entire point of the fallacy actually. Just because both extremes are stupid, that doesn't automatically mean the middle ground between them isn't also stupid.
>>98770547Literally this but they’re too daft to see it.
>>98770539It's funny, softie and pureboy's opponents are still acting like their scaling does nothing as opposed to the moderation they both accepted.
>>98770541Don't bother, it wasn't actually me. I just mistook you for someone else so it was a misunderstanding. I thought it would be funny to reply as a contrarian, but I don't actually want to become chaosfag.
>>98770549No one is saying it does nothing. Everyone is saying neither scales as hard as they think. Purebodyfag is not out starting everyone as he claims.
Core, Alchemy, Flux, Phase... all MOGGED by a high yield nuclear warhead (mass produced btw)
>>98769842>If you go for more than double your strength or soyou can get the multipliers of supersaiyan 2, a 100x, with just 100 souls.
>>98770558>>98770355
>>98770560This legitimately wouldn't permakill any of the legend statuses.
>>98770523>Yea they suck to have to consider as a core userthat's a weird thing about the cyoaas a core user you keep hearing how there's this entire category of attack against which you don't have many ways to defend and the usualy way for your affinity to defend that you probably have a lot of sucksmeanwhile what about the incredible defenses of the other three affinities? they don't get any hard counters like that blasted at them, there isn't anything that just disables all conductions, banishes all spirits, or disables the possibility of evasion
>>98770505Me, purebodyfag, always knew I could not defeat the trigram just starting out. Never thought the opposite. It was clear to me, I was in fact, telling this to Sovereign, that no build would be able to do so when he was very adamant that 60 aura was even more than them.
>>98770574>core: what the fuck was that, why did the world around me suddenly evaporate into a crater, and why was i completely unaffected?>phase: why am i suddenly in mirror world? what's going on out there>flow: woah suddenly being really hot matter and energy is easier than normal?>alchemy: dies lmao
>>98770547Unless there is another axis where the good answer is, the best position really is in-between the two stupid extremes most of the time. Honestly calling it a fallacy doesn't change that, it just seems like another failed logic argument like calling slippery slope's a fallacy when time and again it actually happens.
>>98770574huh, thats true.The funniest is core legend status simply walking through it.
>>98770589That's a titanic unless you have there.Calling something a fallacy as an argument is itself a fallacy, yes. Just because you committed a fallacy doesn't mean your conclusion was wrong, it just means that you were lucky instead of smart.
>>98770558> Purebodyfag is not out starting everyone as he claims.Purebody is about outstating so yes.but my question is why are you guys still about this. I left the chat for like 12 hours playing a game like Ace Attorney, and I come back to a long discussion mentioning me who hasn't said anything about pure body for days.Why do you all get so obsessive? Was discussing with me the high point of the week?
>>98770588>Alchemy: If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
>>98770600>in millions of years, because you also nuked all my cultists :(
>>98770599>but my question is why are you guys still about this. I left the chat for like 12 hours playing a game like Ace Attorney, and I come back to a long discussion mentioning me who hasn't said anything about pure body for days.Welcome to softies world, they do this all the time.
>>98770577Core gets picked on in particular but I still like it. Butchery is the only thing that sort of gives an alchemy build pause.
>>98770571Dunking on their logic is exactly what happened? His logic was 40+ aura devoted meant he outstatted everyone. Softie thought 60 aura into a spirit meant he could solo trigrams. Both got shut down desu >>98770583I’m glad you’re a little more realistic but I still don’t see you outstatting everyone else.
>>98770577>or disables the possibility of evasionIn fairness there are a bunch of those
>>98770595And no such alternative axis exists in most cases anon. The best economic system is somewhere between pure communism and pure capitalism for example. I would LOVE for someone to find the Z axis to that but we are in the same place after more than a century of bullshit. Sorry anon you are just full of shit. The middle position is usually right, nature is ontologically good, and if you give a mouse a cookie he is going to ask for a glass of milk.
>>98770577> what about the incredible defenses of the other three affinities? >AlchemyWeak physically, depend on summons. Butchery>FlowHigh cost techniques to do anything, very little physical or speed enhancements>Phaselow durability, victims to big aoe attacks they cant dodge.I would sayCore > FlowCore can survive whatever flow throws, outlast him and if he hits once he winsPhase > CorePhase has ways to bypass durability and too quick to be hitFlow > PhasePhase can't dodge all the aoe of FlowAlchemy has both weakness and strengths against other affinites, Alchemies builds are more varied so it depends a lot. Core with butchery touches summon builds. Phase is specially good against the weak alchemy guy. Flow can kill a lot of summons as well.But at the same time alchemy has hax fuckery that could, in the right circumstances, defeat the other 3.
>>98770632>Nature is ontologically goodno?
>>98770632In almost all cases there isn't just one alternative axis. You have multiple dimensions to think of.>The best economic system is somewhere between pure communism and pure capitalism for example.Yeah, but that's a great example. The reason is because there's a lot more nuance than just muh communism or muh capitalism. Trying to make it a single axist is the most counterproductive shit ever.
Anons are still talking about the summoning stuff, so before I go out to eat I guess I'll post the build I just made earlier after paladin convinced me not to use my 14 points on 60 aura.>RaceHuman>PotentialOverpowered>Scenario Age of Trigram>ConscriptionCustom>Home TerritoryFeudal Spirit Chateaus >Benevolent AlterationsPure PoolSacred FountainMystic BeautyCharismaticProdigyPerennial Lotus>Malignant AlterationsDelicacyHellfire DebtOld GrudgesMagmatic>Aura SystemVast Generalist>Meridian Expansion+8>Recovery DispositionNutritionLust>Aura AffinitiesCore G2Phase G2Flow G2Alchemy G3>Aura Pool50>TrainingCultivation - LegendTechnique Artistry - LegendCeremony - LegendTactics - LegendInvestigation - LegendDeceit - MasterStealth - MasterTinkering - Master>Basic Release TechniquesSense AuraBody EnhancementSense KarmaCarnal Body SigilIndoctrinating Body SigilMerciful RecidivismInitiate Status—Arcane AcumenSense Enhancement >Great Release TechniquesSummon Rite—Lecherous OdalisquesOblative GestureMaster Status—Transmigration>Legendary Release TechniquesLotus BlessingSpirit Subjugation>EquipmentDiscerning Traditional GarmentsNoble Modern FormalsImpersonating Solemn UniformPurification BellBottomless GourdShaman's KundalaPrayer Drum
>>98770588>core: what the fuck was that, why did the world around me suddenly evaporate into a crater, and why was i completely unaffected?Medium mode of Meteor Drive already gives faster than sound speed by itself. Combine it with some G1- techs and buffs from Technique Artistry, and suddenly I'm not very optimistic about chances of hitting high tiers of the setting with modern weaponry.
>>98770649>Allied SectsThe House of CatacombJiahao, The Warrior DynastySenguru, The Monastic Dynasty>Foe SectsMajushin, The Sorcerer DynastyThe Hellion MobThe Six-Finger Mob>Nemesis'sThe Pale Demon ClanThe Feather TribeThe Solar Trigram Cult>SectNew Sect (Heiyuanjiao (dark + garden + cult))>Sect AdvantagesLuxuryIncomeSecrets (Special Advantage)>CampaignsFiller ArcGhost at the PartyTrigram EvictionForbidden ReligionNegotiationThe Haunted CityGreat Spirit PursuitSuccubus InfestationsThe Deepest DepthNight of the Lantern BugsTreasure BugsGreyflesh CullingHumanoid ChimerasLost in LimboRuin RaiderMissing PersonsPerson of Interest: The Last Son of NinokataPerson of Interest: Shen Roh, Mafia DragonPerson of Interest: The Tenth Magistrate of HellPerson of Interest: The Golden Centennial AvatarGroup of Interest: The Toad Merchant GuildRevolt on the SummitThe Sovereign and the KingRegicide>CompanionsFutabaYomiRyoko>RomancesFutabaYomiRyoko>RivalsDr. AkiOnoKohana, Kohaku, KoharuI'm loathe to post multiple builds in a thread, but eh whatever. I have the revive power now and my waifu companions, I just want to larp as a pokemon trainer is that so hard to ask :(
>>98770633And all of this assumes a dedicated user. A mix of defenses is the best which leads back to the original point. Limitless Meridians is the meta but the only things worth touching in core are Illumination of the Heart and Invincible Shokushinbutsu Stance. Everything is should be dumped.
>>98769747
>>98770643>Trying to make it a single axis is the most counterproductive shit ever.Which is what everyone fucking does, ALWAYS AND FOREVER.
>>98770659i think you're looking at it from a dip perspective, the other affinities also don't have that many dips that someone maining core would want, and the same is true for other affinity combinations, like flow isn't going to give a shit about most of phase or alchemy either if it's maining flow
>>98770632I feel so old reading posts like these. At least it means the board isn't completely dying.
>>98770665It's why it's useful to point this out as a fallacy. People need to remember that the answers aren't hidden underneath black and white thinking and the grey mean between them.
>>98770659Seismic Strike, shapeshifting, aura-free healing of Reclamation Palm and Five Immortalities of Wukong are good. Blind Bludgeon + Force that Shatters the Heavens combo is the best way to fight combat stealth fags.
>>98770532I'm sure you at least need some strength to use the martial art's parries against an enemy of near or greater speed, like divine hand users.
>>98770651Guns are jobbers in this setting.Simple as that
>>98770684That's why you just go faster.
>>98770659>>98770682Obviously also the legend status, invulnerability to non aura attacks, ageless, stealing stats, regeneration.Immortal coil.A good core build is almost impossible to kill
>>98770692everybody is going faster. Force also makes you faster and force is needed to change momentum
>>98770701living world refolding is a great defense against soulshitter martial artsespecially the phase users who think they just need to go faster like one mosquito-minded fellow right here, going faster isn't going to help punch through extreme resilience that explicitly prevents soul attacks from connecting
>>98770682There is some stuff in core but there are alternatives. Alchemy has healing, shapeshifting, soul attacks, and poison immunity as well for example.
>>98770705Hence why you need to also invest in speed to keep up. Speed works without strength, but strength does not work without speed.> Force also makes you faster Not in the sense that actually matters here.
>>98770682>Blind Bludgeon + Force that Shatters the Heavens combo is the best way to fight combat stealth fags.That's a cool combo but when I make a core build I want to fight at close range not swing around a stick around in the air like an idiot and hit fools a block away. And don't get me started on fucking Ayano using bloody guitar strings.
>>98770732kamehameha bullshit martial arts are op, deal with it chud
>>98770720its a Special force that doesnt accelerate
Special Force that Doesn't Accelerate The Heavens
>>98770743???
>>98770768i don't know what he's talking about specifically, but the cyoa is full of stuff like that, for example master status fluctuation is the inverse, it's a special speed that doesn't increase momentum
>>98770741My point is that it looks visually retarded. The sword version doesn't look bad even though it works basically the same, but a bludgeon version is specifically random and the weapon itself doesn't matter at this level so at some point in Youdou you will see a crazy oni waving around four sticks in the air like an absolute moron and waves of destructive bullshit emanating from him and hitting random bystanders and buildings.
>>98770787the blunt version doesn't feel any more random than the sword version to me
>>98770787I think it looks pretty cool.
>>98770794Well... you are pretty wrong!!
>>98770819>Well... you are prettyThanks anon, I needed it.
>>98770772But this is the mundane muscular strength driving all the bodies actions
>>98770763A weapon art to surpass Divine Hand...
Mundane Muscular Strength that Drives all the Bodies Actions
Mass-produced nukes detonating across the city will kill 90% of the population, and really, ain't that all that matters? Insurgentgawds win.
>>98770852how does killing a bunch of mortals and weak aura users help with anything
Mass produced cum nukes would impregnate 80% of the population (yes, even very young ones, they put something weird in the water) and really, ain't that all that matters? Breedinggods win
>>98770863wow just like that one character in the afterlife of spells cyoa
>>98770859I mean, it's 90% of the work force, cult-base for spirits, gangs backing the higher powers... not to mention all the radiation, that's destroying the land for any future generations for tens if not hundreds of thousands of years. Now, imagine a magic nuke. We have magic in this setting, imagine if you made a magic nuke.>whyBecause you're an insurgent, that's your job. Do your job dipshit.
>>98770869Oh, it's the mindless golem again.
>>98770867Sorry, i dont understand, genuinely.
>>98770873Speak for yourself, paranoid nigger.
>>98770875there's a character in a cyoa that does mass impregnation on a huge scale, you can take him as a companion
>>98770876>having any thoughts at all, even the smallest ones, is paranoidLmao
>>98770879Who? Isn't there like 3-4 male companions?
A Core user gets some extra speed from his superior fast twitch muscles and if he really got going he could achieve a decent velocity but isn't a speedster like a phase user is and wouldn't be able to keep up unless he also had phase. See once again the middle ground reins supreme.
>>98770890old xian
>>98767441What is the coolest Release Phrase?
>>98770895I don't think so, it seems like this middle ground can't even afford punctuation.
>>98770863What choices could you take to protect yourself from a cum nuke? I assume a Phase build would be required, since tanking it with Core would impregnate you. Alchemy could allow you to get an abortion, but you'd still get impregnated. Flow could allow you to vaporize the wave of cum if you react quickly enough, but if you're next ot the site of detonation then that's unlikely. Then again, there are multiple bombs too.
If you stride at the same pace but push off with greater horizontal force you go a further distance.
>>98770907wrong :(
>>98768382It's peak, wdym?
>>98770713>extreme resilience that explicitly prevents soul attacks from connectingWhich option is that? Only one I can think of is Invincible Shokushinbutsu Stance and if you want to just stand around like an idiot forever I guess it's okay (bodyguard build that just stands around comes to min) but other wise anon is right.
>>98770917peak fucking cringe.
>>98770917If someone had this eye in real life it'd be pretty crazy.
>>98770901Oh boo hoo I forgot a comma
>>98770917I hate how brainlets think black hole discs are orange because that data was presented in orange even though it was actually black and white and in reality they'd be blue-white like any other extremely hot thing.>>98770920Living world refolding. Extreme speed without extreme strength isn't going to do shit against it even with soul pokes attached.
>>98770924Well there's no techniques to borrow so you'd be better off with the Hypnotist eye
>>98770935Huh? No, I was just talking about the appearance.
>>98770934>Extreme speed without extreme strength isn't going to do shit against it even with soul pokes attached.The humble Paradox Point:
>>98770944>>98770438
>>98770934Celestial Alignment to just phase through it. Force is one way but there are alternatives.
>>98770940Oh yeah, then it's cool.
Give me ideas for fun "power fantasy" sorts of powers for a sort of "dark cosmic" demigod cyoa. Anything from black hole powers to being a lovecraftian monster to necromancy and soul stealing, give me your most puerile concepts.
>>98770949Pretty sure LWR counters that too, since it is a contact-based technique. Gotta get through the density zone first anon.
>>98770947IDK, it straight up deletes matter. I doubt Living World Refolding's durability layers will stop it.
>>98770904None, your golden seed is desired by them. So they will naturally just open their legs by instict.
>>98770963It deletes regular matter, I don't know if it's supposed to delete aura-infused matter or pure aura effects.
>>98770961nta but the whole thing is that Celestial Alignment lets you just phase through those layers.
>>98770934>The only defense is a legendary 24 point ability Not the argument you think it is
>>98770968It is, since your entire approach is all about stacked legendary phase too.
>>98770966Why would it not? That would defeat the whole point of it, and the technique would undoubtedly have said something as crucial as that.
>>98770961The masters of physics (flow users) can get through the chud density layers anon.
>>98770974Because it's two techniques both doing spoopy shit at each other, not one changing physics a bit and the other being spoopy.
>>98770958Tail like Cell, to absorb the dna sludge from enemies.
>>98770971Which is much cheaper (especially if we dump core)
>>98770986Not really? You need something for extreme speed and also your soul touch martial art of choice. That's gonna run up around 25-30 points unless you're going for budget options.
>>98770982That doesn't make any sense. Paradox Point deletes matter. Living World Refolding makes you denser. It's pretty clear that the latter does not negate the former. regardless of how dense it is, matter is matter and gets deleted.
>>98770657Anons neither praised nor shitposted at you, so it seems like this build is fine. Fwiw I think lotus blessing is extremely good security for this build.
>>98770998It makes sense if you assume that aura-infused matter and pure aura layers are different than ordinary matter. It gets even weirder when you start trying to figure out what pure density is.
Do Core users have inherent resistance to something like Perfect Perspective? Because otherwise, you can just turn them into a brainlet without ever touching them.
>>98770992I mean Waning Lunar Eon + a martial art is 30 points for a ton of utility vs 24 points for a hyper specialized defense.
>>98771018And offense.>>98771012They're the only ones who do?? It's G3 core.
>>98771004>It makes sense if you assume that aura-infused matter and pure aura layers are different than ordinary matter. Okay, and I would need an actual reason to assume that these layers are different in a way that matters to Paradox Point.>>98771012Illumination of the Heart. Legitimately they are like the only guys who actually DO have resistance to that.
>>98771012That's something you need Illumination of the Heart for and it is why me and anon where saying it's a nigh mandatory pick as shit like that is terrifying.
>>98771026Yeah but see, someone was just saying that celestial alignment gets through it because the layers of density are outside the body. Then by that logic they aren't matter and paradox point has to contend with them as non-matter. Or alternately, if paradox point can just eat the body through living world refolding, then that means the density must be part of the body, and thus celestial alignment can't affect the body without beating the layers. It's up to you which makes more sense. Personally I think it's supposed to be an aura contest between any of them, not an automatic win based on one technique simply trumping the other.>>98771026>>98771018>>98771012I think sense enhancement also helps?
Do Dragonfall dragons collapse under their own weight because there's nothing in the cyoa about your bones being enforced (beside natural weapons) and Tokhaar said a million times that if it's not in the cyoa then it's not real?also the scales are pretty useless because you're still gonna die to blunt force damage even if they reduce it by half in tier 4. well, if the square cube law I talked about earlier doesn't finish them off first
>>98771035>>98771026>Devote x5 to add a density layer to your body. >With this Technique, the user coats their body in a layer of augmented density,even the description is confused about this
>>98771048No because I picked a tiny fairy dragon. Next question.
>>98770983Not sure about the tail, but this sort of "absorption" power is cool.
>>98771061unfathomably based
>>98771035>Yeah but see, someone was just saying that celestial alignment gets through it because the layers of density are outside the body.They don't need to be outside the body for that? Either way you can just go through them. Also it being outside the body doesn't make it not matter.>I think sense enhancement also helps?Nah, PP can straight up break your understanding of cause and effect.
>>98771012On this topic, is it possible to put a poor nigga through an entire kalpa in their head? Are there any limitations?
>>98771091Kalpinator...
>>98771076If they're part of the body then celestial alignments doesn't go through them unless it wants to go to the other side and head on home, the target is the thing that the resilience applies to thus it has to contend with the resilience to cause damage.>Nah, PP can straight up break your understanding of cause and effect.That has nothing to do with it. Read sense enhancement. It says >Finally, the focus and intensity required by this Technique can help its user to resist mental intrusion and effects, so long as they can maintain perfect concentration.People completely misunderstand sense enhancement unless they closely read what it does. It's not a stat boost at all. It's a bunch of utility effects sort of connected to the senses.
personally i think they're three-dimensional layers so they make the body denser everywher at once, not just the skin or something
>>98771101>If they're part of the body then celestial alignments doesn't go through them unless it wants to go to the other side and head on home,LWF coats you in a layer of density. You just go through the layer and hit the actual guy. Also I should point out that LWF specifically say out that it only makes you more resistant to EXTERNAL forces.>People completely misunderstand sense enhancement unless they closely read what it does. It's not a stat boost at all. It's a bunch of utility effects sort of connected to the senses.Okay fair I missed that part. That said it's not much help if you get hit by surprise before you can activate it.
>>98771134>LWF coats you in a layer of density. You just go through the layer and hit the actual guy. >>98771111
>>98771138Reread LWF, it only works against external forces.
>>98771134>LWF coats you in a layer of density. You just go through the layer and hit the actual guy.In that case it works against paradox point, since the layer is outside.>That said it's not much help if you get hit by surprise before you can activate it.It's passive. It's always activated.
>>98771144that depends on how you define external, i think someone elses hand phasing into me is still external
>>98771074Indeed
>>98771149>In that case it works against paradox point, since the layer is outside.Paradox Point just deletes the layer and you.>It's passive. It's always activated.also fair.
>>98771167>Paradox Point just deletes the layer and you.The layer isn't made out of matter if it's outside me. It's just an aura effect in that case.
>>98771159>tiny fairy dragonare you compesanting for your giant, enormous western dragon down there?
>>98771158I am 100% sure that's not what the option means.
>>98771170It being made with/of aura doesn't make it not matter.
>>98771174i am 100% sure the word external is there so some retard wouldn't start arguing that it makes it harder for your own muscles to move you, and if the layer is on your inside coating you as a three-dimensional object it doesn't matter where the attack touches your body
>>98771012Sense karma and sense enhancements both give you resistance. Not sure but pretty sure the cut content sensory cyanotype also did.
>>98771159You just know this nigga fucks
>>98771181??? Yes it does. Aura isn't matter.>>98771184>Sensory Cyanotype (-5 AP):>“Reveal all secret truth, surpassing vision.”>Requires Alchemy G1+ or Flow G1+>Passive Effect>The Sensory Cyanotype augments one’s vision with subtle Aura fractures in their enemy’s weak points, weapon usage and positioning. Openings in their martial style, opportunities for a fatal blow, and exploitable injuries appear plainly before them like targets. These fractures don’t just appear in human subjects, and will appear across nearly anything that might be worthy of strategic notice—weaknesses in structural supports, advantages in the environment, confidential documents left in the open, and so on, with the caveat that it’s user would have to know they might be useful before being revealed. Anywhere a Release Technique is in effect, the user can sense the Aura dissipation like fracturing sparks of electricity around any object or person. They can also accurately gauge the remaining Aura Reserve of anyone within the Technique’s range. The Sensory Cyanotype can be used to detect and focus onto objects of interest, Aura Reserves and Release Techniques over a large radius augmented by the skill of the user, passing beyond walls, fog and other visual obstructions. It wasn't cut by the way. It still exists. Kofuko just doesn't offer it to you.
>>98771170>The layer isn't made out of matter if it's outside me.yeah, sure, the trees growing from my flow technique are just voids in space, its not matter. Doesnt have weight.Did they kill a person with their weight? Impossile, they are made of aura.My guy, aura creates matters all the time in the cyoa.
>>98768526This but unironically.
>>98771206Okay, but it also creates even more effects that don't create matter. And this one doesn't mention creating matter. It coats in density, however you want to interpret that.
>>98771183i am 100% sure the word external is there so some retard wouldn't start arguing that it makes it harder for your own muscles to move you,That's already covered by the 'does not diminish your ability to maneuver and fight' part. It's external because it is literally covering your external body.>>98771197>??? Yes it does. Aura isn't matter.Aura creates matter all the time, and density is literally matter by definition.
>>98771218> but it also creates even more effects that don't create matter. sure, its a case by case thing. In this case, it creates matter.>And this one doesn't mention creating matter. It coats in densityit creates a layer of a material with certain density. Density, btw, means there is weight, weght needs some kind of mass, or in toher words, matter
>>98771235No, density is a property of matter. Clearly the technique isn't creating matter, it's creating an aura field that affects matter.>>98771236>sure, its a case by case thing. In this case, it creates matter.Headcanon.Sorry, but I'm not convinced at all that special attacks can get through LWR. It's obviously meant to be the core version of exotic physical defense. There are already plenty of other normal, flesh-based, semi-mundane resilience options in core at the legendary level. The entire point of this technique is as a very expensive answer against the stuff you're arguing it's no-save countered by. Going from simple game design logic, your opinion doesn't make sense. Within the rules themselves, the terms aren't clear either. You're now just inventing the idea that it generates matter for no reason.
Living World Refolding also Jobs to Majestic Weapon Injection
>>98771266Nah, the part where it says it actually contends is a good readin. It can't simply get through as if it were normal matter, but it also still can do some damage. Whether that damage is to the layers or to the body depends on how much aura was sunk into the technique.
>>98767516Noble waifus represented by color thingSpace waifus + military(ish) organizational layout thingyThere was some gross niche fetish cyoa I was looking forward to as well, but I don't want to say what it is because I'm embarrassed
>>98771248>, it's creating an aura field that affects matter....Okay, so then Paradox Point just deletes the matter being affected by the field, and then deletes you.>It's obviously meant to be the core version of exotic physical defense.No, it's meant to provide exponentially increasing strength and durability as well as immunity to touch attacks. Also, the entire point of these attacks is to get around extreme durability. The Core solution to this is healing or ISS.
>>98771248>Headcanon.Let's state the facts.1. This creates a layer. There is layers as a thing that occupies a space. As its also mentioned you have to through them and if you create more than one they get stacked ON TOP of another.If they were to not occupy space, they could overlap, but nto stack one over another.2. They have their own mass. "The weight of this layer "3. Density is weight/volume. Naturally, we already stated that it does occupy a space/volume and it has weight. So of course it has density.These points are made simple in this part"as each layer becomes stronger, heavier and denser in accordance with the number of layers above it."4. You have to PENETRATE THEM to REACH the true skin.This obviously means whatever wants to hit your true skin has to go through the layers. That we stated have a mass and volume earlier."they must penetrate every layer of protection to reach the user’s true skin"So it has weight, it occupies a space, it has density per the two things I just mentioned, it has to be penetrated to reach the true skin. All of this and you just think there is no matter? What generates the weight? what occupies the space? what is stopping the attacks to reach your skin?it does not reinforce your skin, it puts layers on it. By mere logic, this creates mass.
>>98771273It always does some damage which means the body of the core user not the layers. Combine that with a touch attack on a heavenly instrument and core anon is screwed.
>>98771295NTA but "assuming damage is possible"Unless you can actively cut through the layer to hit the person, you just damage the layer.
>>98771295>It always does some damage to the thing it hits.If it hits a shield with durability 99999999999999even if the attack had 100 attack damage and should do 0, it will do 1. For example.It doesn't mean if it hits the 9999999999 durability shield that it will somehow hit you behind it.In the same way, it will hit the layer and do some damage to it if its attack damage is too low.
>>98769382Is the cyoa pisscord worth visiting? or is it all drama mostly?
>>98771284>...Okay, so then Paradox Point just deletes the matter being affected by the field, and then deletes you.No, if the density is external then it doesn't matter what's happening with the matter, it's a field of non-physical aura that can deflect the paradox point in the same way the guy who threw it could accelerate it.>ISSI have no idea what that has to do with either paradox point or celestial alignment.>>98771292>If they were to not occupy space, they could overlap, but nto stack one over another.Incorrect, if they were overlapping in the same space they could still validly be described as on top of each other.>2. They have their own mass. "The weight of this layer "Just like density, mass is also a property of matter, not matter itself.>4. You have to PENETRATE THEM to REACH the true skin.Still works regardless of whether they're spatially outside the body or overlapping the body and each other.>>98771295No, the layers tank the damage if the damage is not strong enough. That's the entire point of the technique, if your attacks aren't strong enough then the touch attack portion of them can't connect.
>>98771302That caveat is for ISS, not LWR. Damage IS at least theoretically possible to the body even with a bunch of layers.
>>98771312Last time I went there I got pregnant. Do with that information as you will.
>>98770649Looks much better imo, I still think you should have done legend status but if you've got a lotus blessing on before you do anything risky you should be perfectly fine.
>>98771309>>98771315Damage being "possible" is about if the thing might have a rare true invulnerability like ISS or a Almighty Limb, not a video game chance to hit mechanic.
>>98771331Read the technique.
>>98771340I did but I guess you are an idiot. Once again wronganon.
>>98771315>No, if the density is external then it doesn't matter what's happening with the matterIf there's no matter there's no density. If there's matter Paradox Point can delete that matter. >I have no idea what that has to do with either paradox point or celestial alignment.The point is that this is that ACTUAL 'You are immune to all special damage' power.
>>98771315>Incorrect, if they were overlapping in the same space they could still validly be described as on top of each other.if they do not occupy space this doesn't make sense. Its pure logic. Something that occupies 0 space can't be above something that also occupies 0 space.Imagine nothing on top of nothing. Makes sense to you?If it does, you are imagining something.>mass is also a property of matter, not matter itself.If mass is a property of matter, and that mass is from a layer, that layer is ON TOP of another layer so they occupy different spaces... that layer must have matter on its own.>Still works regardless of whether they're spatially outside the body or overlapping the body and each other.it doesn't. You can't penetrate something that does not occupy a volume.I think you are struggling with all of this because you dont know how something without volume works. You can't penetrate it. You can't lay it on top of anything. There is no space occupied so it can't interact with things that depend on the 3 dimensions (space).Penetrating something means its moving from one place to another and going through something.Having no volume, no space, means there is nothing to penetrate in the first place.If the layers didn't have space (which contradict the concept of layer) and somehow overlaped with the skin, then penetrating the layer is the same as penetrating the skin. But you have to penetrate first the layer.There is several logical impossibilities in your argument. To the point I am starting to think you are simply baiting. Or genuinely retarded.
>>98771331iss isn't true invulnerability
>>98771329If someone can find me a good way to get two points without losing a bunch of stuff I just might.
>>98771352"rendered completely invincible"
>>98771315Nta, you are too dumb to uunderstand something as simple as how matter and space work. Okay. But it doesnt matter. What Living World Refolding protects about is Contact Based techniques.So techniques that require physical contact, like the alchemy martial of ripping your soul out.Paradox point is not physical contact. So its not protected by Living World Refolding
>>98771366>Paradox point is not physical contact. So its not protected by Living World RefoldingNTA but it is and it is. Paradox point needs to get through your physical durability.
>>98771172Yea I grew up in ancient Greece and am ashamed of my comically massive dick.
>>98771347>If there's no matter there's no density.The CYOA is full of these kinds of things. Just like how fluctuation creates speed without momentum. This might be enough to prove something if there wasn't a leap of logic of the size of "The technique creates matter out of nothing actually." even though there's no mention of that anywhere.>>98771351>if they do not occupy space this doesn't make sense. Its pure logic. Something that occupies 0 space can't be above something that also occupies 0 space.It makes perfect sense when they're stacked on top of each other as values of an arbitrary effect that a technique creates.>Imagine nothing on top of nothing. Makes sense to you?>If it does, you are imagining something.Yes, I'm imagining the thing the CYOA describes.>If mass is a property of matter, and that mass is from a layer, that layer is ON TOP of another layer so they occupy different spaces... that layer must have matter on its own.No, it doesn't need matter. It only has density. This clearly isn't meant to be read in a physics texbook manner. Just like the word exponential in other parts of the cyoa isn't for example.>it doesn't. You can't penetrate something that does not occupy a volume.Yes you can. There's an effect without a volume that's metaphysically blocking your access. You need force to penetrate it. Easy.>>98771366You're saying this about a CYOA where speed and momentum aren't tied together.
>>98771373Explain to me how its a single point of spatial incongruity a contact based.The cyoa means with contact based techniques that the user of the technique touches the target with their body.
>>98771385>Explain to me how its a single point of spatial incongruity a contact based.It has to touch you.
>>98771382>You're saying this about a CYOA where speed and momentum aren't tied together.Didn't answer at all my argument. I accept your escape.
>>98771391I couldn't penetrate the pointless insult and was blocked from the rest of the post, sorry.
>>98771391sorry but exceptions prove there are no rules :(
>>98771385What the fuck are you even saying
>>98770649>>98771329>>98771003Softie actually added Lotus Blessing. Nice
>>98771396Multiple similar exceptions to the rules in fictional worldbuilding provide clues for how things are supposed to work.
>>98771382>It makes perfect sense when they're stacked on top of each other as values of an arbitrary effect that a technique creates.Not really, then it would be "overlapped effects". Not on top of each other. Are you ESL? Maybe in your original mother tongue you would understand this.>Yes, I'm imagining the thing the CYOA describes.Thats right, you are doing it wrong.I did the most simple thing, asked you to imagine NOTHING and then imagine NOTHING ON TOP and you somehow could imagine it. This means you were imagining something and thinking it was nothing. This is literally your whole problem. You don't understand what means having no volume.> It only has densityDefine density. Literally. Just define density.Do this.>There's an effect without a volume that's metaphysically blocking your access. You need force to penetrate it.I already explained to you that it doesnt make sense to penetrate something to reach "the true skin" if it doesn't have volume.If you are going to keep being dumb about this, just define DENSITY.
>>98771404all techniques are exceptions to the rules, also known as powers
>>98771389>It has to touch you.Sorry, but contact based its like in pokemon, man to man. All erotic.>>98771397What part did you not understand? Paradox point is a " point of spatial incongruity" literally from the cyoa. I also explained what the cyoa means with Contact based technique.
>>98771406>Not really, then it would be "overlapped effects". Not on top of each other. They're colloquially used the same. The CYOA isn't filled with lawyer speak.>I did the most simple thing, asked you to imagine NOTHINGBut it's not nothing. It's an aura field creating density without being itself made of matter. Thus your idea was nonsense and at best could be called a strawman or something.>Define density. Literally. Just define density.See above. It's metaphysical aura shit. It's not physics textbook shit.
>>98771395>I couldn't penetrate the pointless insult and was blocked from the rest of the post, sorry.gonna cry?
someone translate what this retard is trying to say
>>98771420Yes :(But I also won't bother reading your post :)
>>98771382>The CYOA is full of these kinds of things. Cool. It is also full of aura creating matter. >Just like how fluctuation creates speed without momentumFluctuation actually says that and LWF does not.
>>98771427And it's even more full of aura working without creating matter. In fact, creating matter is the exception.
>>98771421Hurr hurr. Layer not volume. Hurr hurr. Do not matter! Do not matter the matter! NO NO MATTER.Hurr hurr, core tecnike defenss from ALLHurr hurrThis is what he is saying, a more direct translation is:Okay, I do not understand the concept of mass or volume. I do not care. My core technique defends from all because I want to. Thanks you very much
>>98771432Ignoring your obvious lack of understanding of mass and volume.Why are you even debating this if Paradox Point is not a physical contact technique?
Who the fuck cares about defenses when you can just not get hit
>>98771398I had 14 points after changing out my alteration and reducing my aura to 50, then I spent one point on a companion, so I was two points away from legend status or a 15 point one. Lotus blessing seemed fine, though I don't really need the sigils since succubi can apply them and merciful recidivism sucks for me since I have oblative gesture.
>>98771432Okay, but this aura clearly does create matter by definition. There is literally no reason to think otherwise.
>>98771434The technique is in a CYOA where physical concepts don't work by the regular laws of physics. The technique also conspiciously uses the word density as an independent phenomenon. The conclusion is clear.>>98771441If it's not made out of matter, then paradox point doesn't eat it, and since it's an aura phenomenon similar to matter's changes in density, there is no reason to favor the idea that the paradox point continues traveling in a straight line.>>98771460It clearly doesn't, since it doesn't say so.
>>98771450
So Density is always a property of something and not a thing in and of itself but in a high powered setting you get BS conceptual powers and now we are arguing what "a layer of augmented density" actually is and how it works.
>>98771466>>98771467You see, he's doing something exactly contrary to my advice: getting hit. And also not using weapons.
>>98771465>It clearly doesn't, since it doesn't say so.Except it does, because it creates mass and density.
>>98771451If you took off perennial lotus wouldn't that get you enough to hit universal sovereign instead?
>>98771465>and since it's an aura phenomenon similar to matter's changes in density, there is no reason to favor the idea that the paradox point continues traveling in a straight line.Wtf?Why would it not keep travelling?if there is no mass like you say (disagree), and the layers are not designed to stop Paradox Point due to not being a contact technique, why would it affect Paradox Point and change its course?Its literally a barrier that does not affect at all Paradox point in any way in both cases, it having matter or not.
>>98771471More like the fucking technique says it occupies a space, adds mass and has to be penetrated and retards will debate it has no volume nor mass.
>>98771476Fuck you're right... ugh I kind of don't want to become a spirit but... eh...
all these techniques that make reference to physics? Actually a total refutation to physics existing in the setting.
>>98771471Yes. However, if you read the rest of the CYOA, this kind of language is consistent. Bringing in real world physics just for this part to pretend you're right is either ignorant or dishonest.>>98771475In all techniques where matter is created, it tells you what sort of matter. If LWR created matter, it would say what sort of matter it's creating. It wouldn't say density, because that's a nonsense way of phrasing things, especially when there are many other techniques that do create matter. Therefore the technique creates density, in the absence of matter but presence of aura, whatever that means.>>98771479>massThere is mass. There is no matter. They aren't the same thing.>why would it affect Paradox Point and change its course?Because it's made out of highly concentrated aura.
>>98771489What?
>>98771450How exactly does moving at 24 frames per second make you faster anyway?
>>98771489>>98771493Fluctuation creates speed without affecting momentum. There are other examples like slow light.
>>98771450Which is why Core jobs. It's lore consistent though. If the Meatheads actually figure out an impermanence that is Invincible Sokushinbutsu Stance but can move oh boy. These arguments are always about if there is a counter to Cores best defenses and there always is. Plugging the esoteric gaps will eventually result in them succeeding in their eternal quest.
>>98771499You cheat and spread them out further.
>>98771492>There is mass. There is no matter. They aren't the same thing.I meant matter. It doesn't matter (huh) as you can see in my post I am avoiding debating that as I am sure God himself could come down, yell in your ears that it has and you would say "nah, you wrong boss">Because it's made out of highly concentrated aura.So...?Saying it has aura doesn't explain why a point " of spatial incongruity" would get affected by it.The point of Paradox Point it that it eats everything in its path. So explain to me what part of the technique says "it stops with a lot of aura" or anything similar.
>>98771283wow someone actually wants hentai heroine.. tok might be right
>>98771487>>98771492I wasn't taking a side, both sides actually make sense and ultimately every side is just arguing what they want. The core guy wants it to be a perfect defense, the other guy wants to pierce it.
Whatever, i'm just asking the guy.
>>98771499From what I understood:1. Splits 1 second of movement into 24 frames.2. He moves through those frames at a rate of 24 frames per second.3. Within those frames, he can then split the next second of movement into 24 frames again. This builds up his momentum since he was already moving faster, and thus, he can do more within a single second.
>>98771499It was explained dumb. But basically you imagine a series of 24 movements of yourself, and as they are physically possible to be done within a second, you can stack them and the end result is those 24 movements done in 1 second.
>>98771512Paradox point works until its momentum is fully expended, so clearly it is affected by the world around it. Therefore, if something extremely dense were to interact with it, it would slow down a lot faster.>>98771515Strictly speaking I was arguing that there's only one weakness versus either celestial alignment or paradox point. If it's spatially external, it clearly favors celestial alignment, since celestial alignment can slip inside its bounds. If it spatially overlaps with the body, it clearly favors paradox point, because at that point there is nothing blocking it from touching the matter of the body, even if it might still lose its momentum a lot faster.
>>98771499It lets you do 24 things in one second.
>>98771503I mean, at that point you might as well say "If the Glassheads actually figure out an impermanence that is an Instantaneous Death no takie-bakies that strikes past Invincible Sokushinbutsu Stance oh boy"
>>98771520Make sure to not ask him a strawman or you'll prove nothing.
>>98771523>>98771524>>98771530>>98771511All of these make sense, and all of them are completely different and mutually exclusiveI'm starting to wonder if jjk is even the well written masterpiece people say it is
>>98771527>Therefore, if something extremely dense were to interact with it, it would slow down a lot faster.Sorry my pal but your own argument comes to bite you in the ass.Literally from the technique"Until its momentum is fully expended and it lies still, it will hungrily erase any matter it comes into contact with"So, if I buy you it gets affected by the physical world, it would be with what it interacts. MATTER.But you just said the technique doesn't add matter, so the matter it would hungrily erase would be the meat of the user.
>>98771542>well written masterpiece Who the fuck is saying this? Are you disingenuous?
>>98771540But that's literally what they are all doing.
>>98771546Yeah.
>>98771543This would only make sense if it only interacted with matter. However, since it's literally made out of aura when the technique is cast, that's clearly not the case. If LWR is a field of aura density, then it's plausible that paradox point can be stopped by it instead of being eaten or ignored by it. Creating matter would be the worst way to deal with paradox point.
>>98771544Yeah
>>98771557Oh the wronganon copycat again
>>98771557HNNNNGHHHHHH RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
>>98771560Wrong wronganong copycat, wronganon copycat.
>>98771554>This would only make sense if it only interacted with matter.Proof it doesn't?Given the technique only talks about it erasing matter, the burden of the proof is on you. Otherwise "anything" would have been used right.>However, since it's literally made out of aura when the technique is cast, that's clearly not the case.wtf are you even trying to say here. Explain this further.> If LWR is a field of aura density, then it's plausible that paradox point can be stopped by it instead of being eaten or ignored by it.Why. As I already stated, it interacts with matter. Your technique doesn't add matter by your own argument. Have all the density you want, it interacts with matter. Not just density, matter.So it would be just ignored and attack the matter of the user.
>>98771561This guy kind of reminds me of the carrot in >>98769564
>>98771569Don't call him that
>>98771513Nah I'm not into forced feminization
>>98771568>wtf are you even trying to say here. Explain this further....since it's made with aura, it's clearly a phenomenon that interacts with aura.
>Not matter guy based all his argument on the technique not saying "it has matter">Gets countered by Paradox Point eating matter>W-well this would only make sense if it only interacted with matter>The technique only mentions matterHe got defeated by his own retardation. His whole argument of RAW is deeply flawed.
>>98767516Cosmic Lily
>>98771572Then just voluntarily accept it and it won't be forced.
>>98771580It doesn't need to mention aura. Every technique interacts with aura because they're all created with aura.
>>98771575>...since it's made with aura, it's clearly a phenomenon that interacts with aura.Why?Where is this explained in lore or anywhere? I thought you were the guy that wanted to argument your technique didn't add matter because it didn't say matter. It said density, mass and layers but not matter.I bought you that for the sake of the argument. So if we are going like that, why suddenly you can make interpretations out of thin air? The technique only says Paradox point eats matter. So by the same logic, it only eats matter.
>>98767441CYOA theme https://youtu.be/-6tE7iqZ1c0
>>98771591How is it out of thin air?Physics is repeatedly broken by aura in the rest of the CYOA. Matter is repeatedly described when it's created in the rest of the CYOA. Therefore it makes sense to assume that the one case where a broken-sounding physics term is used, aura physics and not regular physics are being described.Meanwhile there is no such established inconsistency with aura. All techniques are aura phenomena.This is perfectly consistent, and a fairer reading of the CYOA than just cherry picking or ignoring its established inconsistencies for the sake of argument.
I have 15 points and vast generalist Core g3 with divine hand and illumination of the heart as my legendary techniques, i'm thinking of adding another martial art, needle that pierces the soul or palm that splits the sea? What do you guys think?
>>98771604>How is it out of thin air?Nowhere stated in the cyoa, so out of thin air.> Therefore it makes sense to assume that the one case where a broken-sounding physics term is used, aura physics and not regular physics are being described.The only technique of the two that mention breaking physics is Paradox Point. But I don't understand what you are trying to say here.>Meanwhile there is no such established inconsistency with aura. All techniques are aura phenomena.And how does this prove they all interact with aura outside of the one coming from the technique itself?For example, Waning Lunar Eon uses Aura to transport parts of your body to the mirror world. Do you want to say all aura techniques interact with Waning lunar eon and bypass it or something? Or is this a case where an aura technique bypass that?>This is perfectly consistent, and a fairer reading of the CYOA than just cherry picking or ignoring its established inconsistencies for the sake of argument.Sorry but its literally just headcanon. Name 1 place or line where it says something like that.
Sorry softie, this new Living World Refoldingfag is way dumber than you. Its like day and night.I will never insult you again, but take this guy away.
>>98771627>Core g3Palm.
>>98771639Why palm over needle?
>>98771637Softie will take anon away to the rape chambers...
>>98771637>>98771647Ok I'll get him...
>>98771643Core G3 means you'll be better at it than you would be at Needle. Though I would swap out Divine Hand for Ruination Gong with this.
>>98771627If you alraedy have a martial art it's better to go for some other type of technique. For 15 points in core, consummate self-incarnation or reconciliation of the immortal coil are my favorites.>>98771630>Nowhere stated in the cyoa, so out of thin air.The release technique opening paragraphs state how aura is used in techniques, including passives. There are no exceptions to this in the CYOA. This is a completely consistent trend throughout the entire CYOA.>And how does this prove they all interact with aura outside of the one coming from the technique itself?It doesn't, but you're the one working in thin air if you take the argument in that direction. Everything seen interacts with aura. Not everything seen interacts with normal real world physics. Therefore aura logic is the more consistent one.>For example, Waning Lunar Eon uses Aura to transport parts of your body to the mirror world. Do you want to say all aura techniques interact with Waning lunar eon and bypass it or something? Or is this a case where an aura technique bypass that?No. All techniques interact with aura. None of them bypass it. Waning lunar eon creating a portal to mirror world does not bypass aura. The attack falling into mirror world does not bypass aura.>Sorry but its literally just headcanon. Name 1 place or line where it says something like that.Something like what, exactly? You're gonna need to be more specific than that.
>>98770208Actually I want to remove Cloudy Spirit Hand, make Hellion Mob my Nemesis, and have the Senguru as my foe, so I can upgrade Investigation to master. Gomennasai
>>98771627>palm that splits the seathis is better for core. Takes advantage of its super strength.And its actually Core based so training core trains this.
Post Danmachi
>>98771658>>98771662As a slight argument to this wouldn't needle also benefit from strength and let you touch someone's soul, something core needs seismic strike to do otherwise? >>98771660>If you alraedy have a martial art it's better to go for some other type of technique. For 15 points in core, consummate self-incarnation or reconciliation of the immortal coil are my favorites.Martial arts stack though don't they? Consummate self-incarnation is good, until you get to the absolute bitch-mode power that is stealing someones strength.
>>98771671They do stack, but that doesn't mean you won't get even more utility out of a non-martial art. There's no reason to steal people's strength with CSI, you can just go hunt monsters with it for the training. Or there are other techniques than that too, like the hyper regeneration one.
Post doom mochi
>>98771671needle would ironically want strength against living world refolding, but that kind of defense is pretty rare
>>98771660>The release technique opening paragraphs state how aura is used in techniques, including passives. There are no exceptions to this in the CYOA. This is a completely consistent trend throughout the entire CYOA.Yes, USED IN TECHNIQUES.This means, techniques needs aura for existing.Now point where it says it interacts with aura outside the aura of the technique.>It doesn'tCool, I accept your concession.> but you're the one working in thin air if you take the argument in that direction.Why? I am just not assuming things like you. You are the one assuming it works in a way never mentioned, I am telling you thats your headcanon.>Waning lunar eon creating a portal to mirror world does not bypass aura. The attack falling into mirror world does not bypass aura.? I dont think you know how waning lunar eon works. Its not a portal. The attack does not "fall into the mirror world".Its kamui from naruto.>Something like what, exactly? You're gonna need to be more specific than that.Something like "all techniques interact with aura outside the technique's"You are, again, assuming it.Its so hard to just admit you were wrong?
>>98771671>wouldn't needle also benefit from strengthNo?> let you touch someone's soul,Also no, it just lets you hit the connections between someone's body and soul. Also if you want that so badly just take Ruination Gong.
>>98771674Hmm, if it wasn't obvious i'm messing around with my divine hand build again. You're right about CSI I guess, with legend martial arts/athletics and meteor drive AND CSI with signature technique divine hand, I think I might have a ridiculous amount of strength and striking force.
>>98771691what do you think about Living World Refolding vs Paradox point?
>>98771683>Why? I am just not assuming things like you.Because nothing ignores aura in the CYOA.>? I dont think you know how waning lunar eon works. Its not a portal. The attack does not "fall into the mirror world".Right, it goes the other way around, your body part goes into mirror world. My mistake.>You are, again, assuming it.Literally everything techniques do is the domain of aura. There is no reason to believe techniques create aura-less effects. Even infinite inertia fundamentally does everything with and to aura.
>>98771699Both are cool techniques. Paradox point + ranged weapon styles seems like it would be a really cool gimmick if you could regenerate aura fast enough.
>>98771708You really can't use it often. It's more of a sniper technique.
>>98771704>Because nothing ignores aura in the CYOA.Yes, like Paraodx Point. Sadly, as you are ASSUMING nothing ignores aura, you don't see it.To say "nothing ignores aura in the cyoa" with a clear example that is meant to just eat matter, as it only mentions to eat matter, you would need proof of your claim. For now, its just your headcanon contradicting the cyoa.>Right, it goes the other way around, your body part goes into mirror world. My mistake.Cool, now explain how aura interacts with that.If WLE works like normal against aura, it would prove spatial techniques do ignore aura.Paradox Point is a spatial technique.>There is no reason to believe techniques create aura-less effects. Even infinite inertia fundamentally does everything with and to aura.Infinite inertia attacks the user, not the technique itself. And all of this would prove Infinite Inertia does it, even in your best case. Not all techniques. Its pretty telling how your technique example is the technique against all techniques.>There is no reason to believe techniques create aura-less effectsChimera Egg creates chimeras, chimeras do not have aura.
>>98771715Its treated like a projectile.
Does somebody remember the timeframe for learning techniques in SC?
>>98771726>Yes, like Paraodx Point. Sadly, as you are ASSUMING nothing ignores aura, you don't see it.>bro you aren't assuming something that never happens in a 60+ page cyoa doesn't secretly happen off-screen>To say "nothing ignores aura in the cyoa" with a clear example that is meant to just eat matter, as it only mentions to eat matter, you would need proof of your claim.60+ pages of consistency and lack of exception is good enough proof for me.>If WLE works like normal against aura, it would prove spatial techniques do ignore aura.No it wouldn't. It would just prove it moves out of the way of incoming attacks. How would it ignore aura? Please elaborate a bit on this because I'm very confused by this line of reasoning.>Infinite inertia attacks the user, not the technique itself.Not streactly true. It nullifies a technique as if the user had done so. The target is the technique. If someone summoned a special series - entity and they were on the other side of youdu, you could infinite inertia the entity to knock it out, you wouldn't need to go find the user of the technique on the other side of youdu.>Chimera Egg creates chimeras, chimeras do not have aura.They don't have aura pools in their aura systems with meridians and shit. That doesn't mean they don't have aura in the more normal sense of a rock having aura because some aura from the environment hit it.>>98771728Yeah, but you can't afford to spam it.>>98771736Years.
>>98771726>Chimera Egg creates chimeras, chimeras do not have aura.Transfiguration and transmutation also do this, though mostly transfiguration.
>>98771651Kek
>60+ pages of consistency and lack of exception is good enough proof for me.there are consistencies and lack of exceptions but when they appear you just say they fit anyway because you assumed it. Thats your problem.>It would just prove it moves out of the way of incoming attacks. How would it ignore aura? Please elaborate a bit on this because I'm very confused by this line of reasoning.Welcome, now you are experiencing what I experience when I read your arguments. And all I had to do was use your argument against you.I am going to sleep. I wasted time trying to teach you basic logic. You dont know what volume is, you dont know how to define density, you dont know what matter and mass are. You dont know what it means to make an assumption.At this point I am hoping you are an ESL teenager having problems with the language. This is not an insult, but my genuine opinion, I have insulted here for the sake of it. I am not insulting you now, I am genuinely concerned for you.Good night.
>>98771736There isn't an explicit one, but presumably even the most advanced techniques take 150~ years or less since otherwise people would die before they could learn them. I always headcanon it as taking (AP cost) years, with Great and Legendary taking 2x and 3x longer.
>>98771756>there are consistencies and lack of exceptions but when they appear you just say they fit anyway because you assumed it. Thats your problem.I don't have a problem with my understanding of the CYOA. You have a problem with my understanding of the CYOA.>Welcome, now you are experiencing what I experience when I read your arguments. And all I had to do was use your argument against you.Except my version makes sense, while you clearly distorted it somehow to create yours.>You dont know what volume is, you dont know how to define density, you dont know what matter and mass are. You dont know what it means to make an assumption.This was all covered in the conversation. You're just being disingenuous now.>At this point I am hoping you are an ESL teenager having problems with the language. This is not an insult, but my genuine opinion, I have insulted here for the sake of it. I am not insulting you now, I am genuinely concerned for you.I think you should take care of your own frustration first. Our discussion was fine as far as I'm concerned.>Good night.Good night anon.
Meteor drive or master status unstoppable force?
>>98771467Sex with Maki
>>98771758>>98771736The author actually caved and said years for basic techniques. I doubt it takes more than decades even for legendary ones. I like to use cost as a benchmark for how long it takes to carve them into your meridians and classification for how hard it is to find information abou them, with secret ones being the hardest but higher tier also denoting difficulty.Also keep in mind you just learn about 45 to 60 points worth of techniques during the 3.5 days of the aura burst, and the only thing that's special about the aura burst is extremely fast aura regeneration. So this means if you have a different source of massive aura regeneartion, you also accelerate your technique learning speed.>>98771778Meteor drive for me. Only core master status I like is relative form, and that's half because it's also a medium tier regeneration between the much worse rebirth and much better reconciliation of the immortal form.
>>98771736Years for some techniques but then again Noriko learned hers in a few months. I think PCA may have once given a straight answer but regretted it because anons did the math and it was decisively in favor of potential maxing even for big abilities. Keeping it vague is the only thing that sort of works and remembering that training time isn't linear to aura cost (I.E don't assume a 10 ap ability takes twice as long to learn as a 5 ap ability). The issue is the structure of the cyoa itself imo but as it is an actual number can only be so long you would feel screwed for not grabbing powers, or so short you were a chump for buying any at each end of the spectrum.
Meteor drive is exponentially amplified
>>98771647His lust for men is insatiable...
>>98771794Yes. However, that's not a mortal mathematics exponential. It's an aura mathematics explonential. It works very differently.
>>98771793I don't think it's a problem. The different parts of the CYOA are synergetic, so you want to invest in all of them, and that capability then translates into how quickly you develop further. You need to stay alive, find technique knowledge, etc., not just a long stay in a cave.
>>98771794Teach Niwamaru inhuman evolution so her exponentially increased strength is channelled through exponentially dense muscle fibers.
>>98771799TRVE
>>98767441What would you need to stack to be able to drink Teraba under the table?
>>98771815Poison specialist.
>>98771675bad
>>98771799Word around the street is 40-80 aura is the sweet spot. Thank me later
>>98771805>not just a long stay in a cave.There is literally an aura ability college anon. And there aren't really enough points in the CYOA to spread out. A spread out build is just as vulnerable as any of the extremes. The core fact remains that in a CYOA that starts with 45 points the unquestionably optimum route of a vast aura system with limitless meridians is 25 points.
>>98771825More than 30 to 40 is inefficient use of your resources.>>98771830I like to see limitless meridians as a legendary technique. Is it worth more to you than one more legendary technique?I also like to see each affinity as infinite in potential. Just because you didn't spread out to all affinities that doesn't mean you'll ever finish learning.
In fact, limitless meridians may end up just being wasted for you. What if you'd rather invent new phase techniques for a thousand years than even touch alchemy? It could happen.
>>98771838>I also like to see each affinity as infinite in potential. Just because you didn't spread out to all affinities that doesn't mean you'll ever finish learning.Infinite number of techniques but what each affinity does is unique and you cut yourself off from those archetypes if you don't take them. You can't enchant your weapon with Core, and you can't regenerate with Phase.
>>98771846This is softie on alchemy and I respect him for it.
>>98771846You won't live for a thousand years without Alchemy
>>98771838>auralet
>>98771856My perennial lotus says otherwise.
>>98771854Alchemy is the best school for a solo affinity since it has the esoteric stuff. Someone will eventually mindrape him but it was fun for a while.
>>98771851not with that attitude
>>98771858Waste an alteration slot while the alchemy Chad has escaped impermanence (or is at least false Buddhaing)
>>98767419>/cyoag/ - Choose Your Own Adventure General More like: /spg/ - Spirit Conscript General
>>98771846The description of g0 alchemy is>you aren't particularly clever, creative, or charmingwhich sounds pretty brutal. I'm hoping it can be offset with skillful core transformation or my character is destined for the bin.
>>98771871I prefer /pcag/ to honour of one of our most prolific authors instead.
>>98771873Alterations take precedence over all of those incredibly fluffy descriptions.
>>98771875>>98771875>>98771875>>98771875Move along
>>98771873at the risk of sounding like tok... but those are added on top of your personal real life valuesif you're already good at something, you don't lose it by taking a lower affinity that ostensibly governs that part
>>98771864You might be able to push things a little like creating a flow regen technique (body is matter), but ultimately you are gimping yourself especially on a long time scale. It's hilarious that anon thinks an extra legendary is worth losing an affinity forever. He is arguing to eternity, well I am too. The extra 9/10 aura points between a vast aura system with and without limitless meridians can't be spent anywhere more valuable on a long enough timescale (and anyone who goes less than vast aura is just stupid).
>>98771889And if that wasn't enough there are several alterations which would reasonably override it. You're really going to tell me someone with Mystic Beauty, harem mode and charismatic isn't charming? Or someone with Master or Legends Investigation / Tactics isn't clever?
>>98771012just evolve to see through all falsehoods
>>98771783Nah shes kinda ugly. Nobara and Mei Mei are hot tho. Also Uro.
