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>>98771880Alterations? G3 already gives you solidly superhuman abilities. Not even still close to human ones, but well into the superhuman range. Alterations barely sound like they compete in the topic if at all.
>>98771903I meant in the case of something like G0 alchemy being used to claim anon has no charisma while he has harem mode, mystic beauty and charismatic...
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>>98771907Oh, that's just random fate bullshit hitting the dumbass shonen protag.
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>>98771914Yeah but they aren't charisma. They're utility effects that work in the same context, but only when they are specifically called on. Someone with charisma can use it anywhere, someone with mystic beauty is only a thirst trap, and someone with harem mode is just a minor reality warper.
>>98771910Yea most harem mcs are chic magnets because the story simply says they are. They don't actually have rizz. When an anime character does have an authentic gravitas it is usually a villain which is why I love Magnatic.
Just two more weeks until Spirit Conscript discussion goes away.
>>98771918By that logic the aforementioned lack of traits only apply to matters pertaining spirits.
Starting the N's with Night Rider, a personal favorite of mine. Allsyncanon, his folder is missing the Death & Immortality contest entry, found here: https://imgchest.com/p/9p4ndeezzyn>>98771927I wish I could see some graphs following /cyoag/ trends, length of threads, etc.
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>>98771930No, because it says charisma and creativity in general. Spirits like those traits, and also get some more on top, but general charisma and creativity are general.Harem mode reality warping isn't going to help in any context other than the extremely specific "romantic realtionships where you cheat or want polygamy don't go worse just because you cheat or want polygamy" context, full stop. Nothing else.
>>98771939Also for Allsyncanon: I couldn't find the duplicated folders I talked about before, but I will be sure to note any in the future and let you know
In all likelihood Shen Roh's origin story is simply being a Red Demon with more than G0 flow and alchemy (also why Ryoko ended up an outcast).
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>>98771940Let's ignore reality warping harem mode as it's only one third of the equation but charisma work should apply generally. Also why wouldn't general skills that rely on intelligence being at master / legend override "not particularly clever"? I don't really see why G0 alchemy is a awkward life autism sentence at best and who knows what at worst.
One of the best: New Observer. I should post a lesser-known one but they're all kind of long. Besides, this general shouldn't go more than a month or two without Metropolis posted
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>>98771955I don't imagine it as such. If you treat this as a real CYOA, or in other words an isekai, which the opening of the CYOA does invite you to do, you still get your own actual stuff on top of the descriptions. Imagine that when kofuko is describing g0 alchemy he's saying what the g0 trait means you probably have, while ignoring any personal abilities you already have. This is why I usually treat trainings and old grudges as such as things that kofuko inflicts on you and not things that you already had in your pre-resurrection life.
Our beloved Nigger-Man
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Classic from NinjaGinjaV2
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TechGODS...
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If I'm an alchemyGOD why would I not join the Majushin? They're the strongest clan and if any uppity jiahao or hair tribe bitches try to come for me I can just mind control them into being my haremwife bodyguards.
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NRG Anon
>>98772027You guys are the first to get razed once tensions boil over as everyone hates you.
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Man I want to like Purebody, I really do but even acknowledging it's limitations I just can't get past how limiting it is.
>>98772041They have to find the entrance and key to the turtle hermit, get past all of the guards, traps and spirits and then get through my immortality first.
NumberedanonNo idea what's up with the numbered CYOAs. There seem to be some gaps, too. Are they all interrelated? I have not looked at enough to find out
Nxtub! Good stuff
I haven't been keeping up lately, what's with these threads getting 600+ replies consistently all of a sudden?
>>98771921i like magnatic too, but magmatic is alright
>>98772079From what I can tell: Mcyoag died and now everyone is back (And engaging in bad habits they got from mcyoag)Strange how it all ended
>>98772079Spirit Conscript is being... discussed.
>>98772082How did mcyoag die?
>>98772079People are back on Spirit Conscript and making one million one sentence posts about the minutiae of the abilities and so on. Pretty much par for the course. I think some /mcyoag/ folks are camped out here, and there's one or a couple guys feeding shit through ChatGPT to generate responses that are maximally pointless. It will probably blow over soon, for the most part
>>98772086it came to him in a dream, and it was plausible because bad thing happened and mcyoag is full of bad people
>>98772080Kek I knew I probably used the wrong word
>>98772027>>98772051Softie is the only good alchemist.
>>98772094Nominally true and he would be a lot better if he spread out his shit instead of going all in on the spirit summoning gimmick.
>>98772080It might have been a typo on PCAs part as he spells it Magmatic which is related to volcanos.
>>98772103wow you don't say, you genius you
>>98772109I have never heard someone say someone has a Magmatic personality only a Magnetic personality.
>>98772086They just stopped doing multiplayers it seemsThe last thread lasted 20 days and had no followup, the current one was posted after it archivedIt's a bit sad
>>98772112damn that's a third one, magnetic is even better than magnatic
>>98772055I think it's a bit funny that "white" ink is white in the skin color sense and not the real color.
>>98772112>>98772103Bruh... >>98772127That's how white tattoos look IRL. They barely lighten the skin and don't look actually white.
>>98772114So this is how retardation dies, with thunderous apathy.
>>98772141Oh well!
>>98772114I found this post sort of poignant, with its memories of a past community. I never go on /mcyoag/ but it does serve its purpose, and it always seemed like a group of people pretty much on the same page compared to here: pilgrims to a new world
I find this to be one of Italics best .
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>>98772191The setting of Central Asia + Russia is really immersive.
what's the deal? The anon who asked the other thread about whether a list of CYOAs can be a CYOA itself can eat his heart out
>>98772195Just wish there were more details.
>>98772196I was thinking maybe it's a dice roll on a table of CYOA ideas. I don't know why else there would be these strange gaps
>>98772055those are all cyoas i made back in like 2013 and 2014, they're literally just the numbers of attempted cyoas i made, and then someone else added names to them
>>98772200Oh, thanks for responding! So you made 2, 4, etc. and just never finished/released them?
>>98772196the other cyoas didn't go anywhere, they're mostly just folders with a single half-finished txt file
>>98772082>>98772114Wait wtf really? The split is over? /cyoag/ is whole again?
>>98772202Wow. I'm pleased that you happen to be in this thread at this exact time. Props to you for making some classics, and (it sounds like) working on a ton of ideas over the years. When was the last time you released a CYOA? Not in a pushy way, just curious
>>98772203No, first we need to get /cyoar/ back in here. After that, with our combined power, we might be able to drag /jumpchain/ back too.
>>98772207I don't want any of those guys back thoughever. Multishits were always of trve /cyoag/ stock, the others are rejects (except towergirls, if they want to come back)
>>98772206dunno, i think it was in 2017
>>98772114isreal....
>>98772180Niwa jobs to my cute oni wife.
>>98772210Well, I would enjoy seeing more from you. Major contribution to the canon in any case. I appreciate you clearing up the mystery
>>98772180>>98772214My neet harem
ImmortalBros. Pick your flavor
>>98772199I love this cyoaGender: MaleRace: HumanLifestyle Bonuses:> Survivalist, -2> Craftsmen (Illustration & Dollmaking) -2> Knowledge (Social, Historical, Magical & Medical) -4> Shaman, 2Physical Bonuses:> Grace 1, -2> Regeneration 1, -2Magical Bonuses:> Magic Affinity x3, -6Misc Bonuses:> Money, -1> Equipment, -1- Level 4 Companion, FreeRace & Gender: Female OrcLifestyle Bonuses: Soldier, Survivalist, Knowledge (Social), Knowledge (Bush Lore)Physical Bonuses: Vitality 1, Strength 1, Regeneration 1- Level 2 Companion, -2Race & Gender: Male ElfLifestyle Bonuses: Entertainer (Flutist), Knowledge (History & Politics), Knowledge (Skullduggery & Espionage), Knowledge (Social), SoldierPhysical Bonuses: Grace 1, Setting: The WildlandsPretty typical 'Warrior, Thief & Mage' party. The Orc follows me after I found her wounded in the forest and nursed her back to health. Shortly afterwards the small town I had lived near was overrun by the same Beastmen horde that destroyed the Orc's tribe. The survivors and I made our way to the nearest large city where we met the Elf who hired us to play bodyguard.
>>98772238>human male + orc female in the wildlands buildI've seen your build so many times lol
>>98772222>I'm mortal, bros
>>98771909I liked it. Erylis is cute.
>>98772114They're finally home...
>>98772309A mycoagger's home is as far away from me as possible. Fucking degenerates, infantile threadshitters, kill yourself mcyoaggers
>>98772325They're from cyoag originally so this is their ancestral home and their rights to the thread is just as valid as yours
>>98772329but it's a visible difference that you can point to therefore they're mortal enemies
>>98772336based on that logic everyone but yourself itt would be...oh no
>>98772329The forfeited their rights when they deliberately shat up cyoag with erp and refused, like petulent children, to make their own general as countless other cyoa offshoots in the past did. I have no sympathy for a mcyoagger
>>98772329It was promised to them 3000 years ago!
>>98772348>erpTo this day there is still no lewd writings appearing in the archives. They don't even tolerate them in the multiplayer thread. You're remembering it wrong.
>>98772329Also mcyoaggers called for the deaths of authors during OR times, caused threads to devolve into literally just having 1-2 cyoas posted (obviously including OR)mcyoaggers need to die.
>>98772352"Oh spidercutie I love you~~~"Open your blind eyes
>>98772353...Did OR kill /mcyoag/?No, really. What truly kickstarted the multiplayer was the Dragon Break consensus. The other thread never did OR like us, but that's where they inherited the rules.And now the thread is dead because if the multiplayer doesn't 100% fit their autism, they don't play.
>>98772356you're good at that, i wouldn't be surprised if you made shitposts like that yourself and are only pretending right now
>>98772356Nobody ever used the term "spidercutie". You're one of the lewd ERPers currently glazing the local lolcows, aren't you?
>>98772367I used the term "spidercutie" because I never involved myself in their faggatory and couldn't remember the name they used for her.
Stop talking about Outer Reincarnation in general.
>>98772389>Outer Reincarnation
>>98772390bot?
>>98772393*beep* *boo* ////accusation detected, deploying countermeasure////Fuck you nigga
>>98772393Shitposter/Ritualposter. They're closer to bots than humans though.
>>98772404>>98772393He's just being honest. It's admirable.
>>98772082The Harahel is still kicking and doesn't have virtually infinite CYOAs to draw from. Why is mcyoag dead?
>>98772410Naturally. Just like the guy saying "kino" at each Tok build.And the ones showing their "honest" "appreciation" to Softie each chance they get.And the ones asking for Danmachi.And- you get the picture.
>>98772412It could be any of a million different things. Maybe they decided to plant the wrong strain of grass in their thread's back yard.
>>98772412Our sleeper agents finished the job.
>>98772419That's not possible. How did they wake up?
>>98772423they didn't, they just made everyone else go to sleep
>>98772426Truly devious.
>>98772412They are much more suseptible to droughts, being that the generals activity requires prior activity
>>98772412it was pestilence
>>98772412Falseflag to dumb down discussion to its most toxic variants, belittle everyone trying to make it better, scare off newblood with cringe, obnoxious or elitist behavior, move the goalposts, center the discussion around barely on-topic things like lolcows...Of course our thread is free from these woes.
>>98772446We will survive. We are stronger.
post MY cyoa
>>98772353>Also mcyoaggers called for the deaths of authorswe do this all the time though
>>98772484We don't do it enough.
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what would spirit conscript be like if it was actually jeet, like if it had a caste system and izzat and shit as core parts of youdu society
What's the point of posting OC if people are going to just keep circlejerking about Outer Spirit Entropicarnation and namefags?
>>98772616no fucking clue how jeet culture works, but this got me thinking, women are probably majority of the rapists in spirit conscript, like due to the gender imbalance there will be a lot of femcels. Then due to aura these women will be physically as strong if not stronger than men, especially if they are hunting down none aura users. I guess getting kindapped and raped by demons is an actual common problem for boys, especially considering how rampant slavery is.
>>98772657this isn't just implicit, it's what the blue demons are notorious for
>>98772257kek, and this isn't the first time someone's replied to me with Colonel Autumn.I just can't help myself. It's kind of a tradition at this point.
>>98772661but I kinda imagine gender norms are flipped in youdu, like if the majority of the criminals, military, etc. are women and males are so rare. They will be probably kept out of danger as some househusbands. Because losing a man is a lot more costly than a women. Like men might actually be the fairer sex in Youdu.
>>98772616Spirit Conscript is buddhist and would not have a caste system even if it was indian
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>>98772748WOG:>Would Living World Refolding stop Paradox Point?>LWR isn't infinite durability i dont think>If its made of matter, paradox point punches through it im pretty sure>So yeah when an infinite needle hits a (very high but still fundamentally) finite number of sheets of paper, it goes through them>Im pretty sure conceptually LWR is just Endbringer armor from Worm and Paradox point is just hollow purple>So would hollow purple oneshot an endbringer>And I think you can see, fictional deathbattle enthusiasts, that it would
>>98772657It also explains the politics
>>98772748>true enlightenment>immortalityif you were actually enlightened then you wouldn't desire immortality anymore as the goal of enlightenment is to exit the cycle of Samsara and achieve NirvanaSpirits are literally the opposite of Enlightenment, they are eternally stuck in Samsara and suffer greatly for it with all of them inevitably becoming insane and bringing that suffering unto others
>>98772748Does anyone make a build for this with the intention of living a cozy/fun/interesting life in this setting or does every just want to make a character that can beat all the other characters?
>>98772748>RaceYokai>PotentialTalented>ScenarioAge of Truth-Satya Yuga>ConscriptionYakuza>Home TerritoryThe Canal District>Benevolent AlterationsSacred FountainLimitless MeridiansProdigyPerennial Lotus Spirit Blood (Toughened, Armed)>Malignant AlterationsSealed Power (since martial arts are almost exclusively devotion abilities this isn’t so bad and even comes with an extra power up)>Ambivalent AlterationPurebody + Magmatic>Aura SystemVast Generalist >Recovery DispositionNutrition >Aura Affinities Core G3Phase G3Flow G3Alchemy G3>TrainingMartial Arts- Legend Technique Artistry- Legend>Release TechniquesSense Aura (free)Body Enhancement (free)Aura Draining (free)Martial Art-Laceration Touch (free)Secret Martial Art-Divine Hand >EquipmentFalse Ocular CoveringsFacial Breathing MaskSaika Ikki’s Last Memory>CompanionsRyoko>RivalsOnoTeraba The SavageChimako>FactionsThe Six-Finger Mafia-MemberThe Red Demon Clan-AllyThe House of Catacomb-AllyThe Hellion Mob-FoeThe Blue Demon Clan-Foe>CampaignsTechnique CollectionFiller ArcAn Enemy of My EnemyPerson of Interest: Shen Roh, Mafia Dragon (Save)Arena Death MatchesKing Yama’s Muscle
>>98772802I've seen a few alchemist builds that were made with the intention to just sell talismans and what not with no real focus on actually fighting themselves.
>>98772809Another Attempt at a Purebody build. Had more fun with this one as I was less worried about trying to make up for its shortcomings and instead made something fun to imagine. Still its potential is capped without figuring out a way to bypass the restrictions (which may be at least partially possible with the right help or secrets) and I would say my undead Purebody ultimately has more going for it but a Massive Red Demon Yokai with four arms and mastery of Divine Hand would be a hell of an opponent. I have two lines of potential advancement as well. Took limitless meridians this time as I realized being locked out of the weird martial arts after already being locked out of everything else isn’t worth it and my companion knows one of the best ones (Divergent Life Streams). One the other hand my base set of martial arts has Laceration Touch which turns my four armed body into blades for all intents and purposes and I could incorporate sword arts into my style and with Saika Ikki’s Last Memory I could eventually get several amazing ones.
>>98772802Those two things tend to go together
>>98772802Kys cozyniggerWhat's the point of making a shit build in a multiplayer cyoa?
>>98772748Alternative to Illumination of the Heart ?Closest to a zero aura cost passive protection I can think of is having Herbal Lunar Pool flowing through your body or having a second body design to maximize benefits/washing bathing 24/7.
>>98772641There isnt a point
>>98772641you have no oc
>>98771946Nah, he just has 6 finger, got bullied and became a criminal
>>98772051>They have to find the entrance and key to the turtle hermitan eventuality. Even more if just 1 betrayer appears. And given how self centered the majushin are, take a guess if its possible for one of them to betray you in exchange of power.>get past all of the guards>get past all of the weaklings alchemy users that get assassinated in a direct fightLiterally the only reason they are alive is the Ninokata's leader not deciding yet to fight them. But the majushin has no counterplay to a phase master.>traps and spirits and then get through my immortality first.silvered, butchery, your "immortality" will just make you reincarnate in the spirit womb in hundreds or thousands of years.
>>98772088>and there's one or a couple guys feeding shit through ChatGPT to generate responses that are maximally pointlessthat was like 4 or 5 days ago for a couple of hours. Now nobody is doing that, our retardation is obvious.
>>98772802My build mainly wanted to discover stuff (to an obsessive degree) and when it has the occasion help out people.
>>98772214Your cute oni wife jobs to life itself. A girlfailure.
>>98772657The blue oni clan and yakuza kidnap men from other dynasties to get their genes into the blue oni and marry them off to important blue oni women.At least they get married I guess? Its something good you dont become a sex slave, just a married man forced to be married.
>>98772685On the other hand, men are less necessary for reproduction.Just look at the ninokata surviving with 1 man per generation.So while men are rarer, have 1 men for like 30 women and its technically enough as long as the women's plan is not to fuck every day.
>>98772748Which is better: Needle that Pierces the Soul or Divergent Lifestreams?
>>98772757Oh, wow. I was right again but I still wasted time trying to convince the retard from yesterday.This answer proves LWR has matter, like it obviously does. And proves paradox point pierces it, like it obviously does.Thanks anon
>>98773076Sounds like my build. With less alcohol.
>>98773096> Needle that Pierces the Soul +Soul Damage+Victim loses control of parts of their body before final deadly strike+Long distance attacks+Hard to heal-Clear absolute counter (illumination of the heart)+Clear absolute counter isweird af to find>Divergent Lifestreams+Internal damage+Reconfigure aura system of enemy, making techniques harder and at some point, impossible to do+Less absolute counters as Needle that pierces the soul-No long distance attackAgainst majority of enemies Needle that pierces the soul sounds like a more direct threat. Its hits paralize body parts and at some point will just rip your soul.While divergent lifestreams causes internal damage and fucks up techniques, its better the stronger your enemies are. There are more techniques that counter Needle that pierces the soul than divergent lifestream, and the counter of Divergent Lifestream can be eventually overcome by divergent lifestream and made impossible to do again.So both stomp weak fighters. Against mid fighters Needle is more direct and enough, so better than Divergent lifestream in that sense.Against strong fighters (g3) Divergent lifestream will be more useful on average
Lets try again: Give me fun "Power fantasy" powers for a sort of "dark lord"/"dark cosmic" theme, anything from Cthulhu powers to being satan to being a lich works, just make it interesting.
>>98772757>Im pretty sure conceptually LWR is just Endbringer armor from Worm and Paradox point is just hollow purple>So would hollow purple oneshot an endbringerWtf, amped hollow purple was tanked by Sukuna in jjk story, its not a dura neg. Is it bait?
>>98773139HP erasing matter is a common misconception so PCA was just wrong.
>>98773137Mirror technique that mirrors the enemies's attack
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>>98773148That works.
>>98773139Sukuna used Domain Amplification, Domain amplification weakens techniques.3 times hollow purple didn't just erase someone. 2 times against sukuna, who, again, has Domain Amplification.And one against Gojo, who explained that it being his own cursed energy made it weaker and survivable.Even if lets say its not dura neg, Paradox Point is.
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>>98773126Wouldn't IOTH also counter Divergent Lifetstreams since Aura is in the soul?
>>98773149I think you have misunderstood my question/motivations.
>>98773146>HP erasing matter is a common misconception so PCA was just wrong.Oh, probably.>>98773151Opening hp was tanked with just reinforcment.>Even if lets say its not dura neg, Paradox Point is.Well, yes, pp is clearly stated in cyoa as such.
>>98773158Nope. Different things. You need soul to get aura, but they are different and separate.Just like draining your aura doesn't drain your soul. Attacking your aura system doesn't affect your soul
>>98773172>Opening hp was tanked with just reinforcment.Where is this said? Sukuna used Domain Amplification almost the whole fight and it didn't look different.
>>98773126>>98773158IOTH doesn't protect against soul damage. Huge fight about it back in the day.
>>98773176>Where is this said? Sukuna used Domain Amplification almost the whole fight and it didn't look different.https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1r8tjj1/wait_does_this_mean_that_hollow_purple_is_never/In the manga.
>>98773204It does, however, this "The user’s soul cannot be removed from their body or manipulated by any means without their willingness"Needle does not proper soul damage, it stops the connection of the body and soul, with the end goal of removing the soul from the body. So it does protect against needle.
>>98773206This didn't prove anything.If Sukuna used domain amplification or not, he would still say his hands are reinforced. Because they are.
>>98773151>2 times against sukuna3 times including the unlimited hollow, where Sukuna clearly was not using Domain Amplification.
Karmic outlaw doesn't seem so bad, right? 7 points its a lot
>>98773222> including the unlimited hollow,Thats the second time against Sukuna.>where Sukuna clearly was not using Domain Amplification.Why would he not?
>>98773228>Thats the second time against Sukuna.Okay then, 3 times including Yuta.>Why would he not?Because he's using 10s?
>>98773215https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1h5d96l/debunking_aktually_hollow_purple_is_dura_neg_myth/If hp dura neg, it would still erase Sukuna, weakened or not. Also, Sukuna says he cant even fully negate blue and red with da.
>>98772184you made that post nigga lmao
>>98772086They refused to play anything but an increasingly narrow subset of adventures and then Pikachu faced when it turns out that this leads to everyone who wasnt interested in those specific adventures leaving the thread.
>>98773301I think it was more that the standards for writing volume went up while the standards for quality went down. The multiplayer stuff here was full of memes, discussion, art, cyoa add ons and compilations, and occasionally something written. And the writing was typically short and at least ok in quality. There it was like you had to write a novel to even participate over there you had to sift through bloated esl garbage homework to stay caught up on what was happening. I would rather just read a real book at that point. My guess is this obsession with writing and need to accept everyone's writing contributions, no matter how awful, limited the number of practical adventures. If you propsed something different, they would act like you were crazy because it would be too hard to shit out 100k words of unedited dogshit for that adventure. That's what drove people away.
Jujutsu Kaisen is so fucking gay
>>98773355Jane...
>>98773137Is this actually related to OC or are you just asking this as a time-waster?
>>98773137the ability to on-demand create the music and effects needed for large scale choreographed musical numbers
>>98773351Having to catch up on five threads of unlabeled, intertwined discussions between anons isnt any better though.
>>98771988artstation best girl>googleI would have chosen her a few years back but now that it's flooded with AI slop this might be the worst option of them all
>>98773474I think it's better, because at least it's not forced and the general stays active. Does depend on the speed of the threads though. If it's a steady pace then it's not hard to skim through at the end of the day or check during work breaks or whatever. If it's breakneck speed, then that does get overwhelming. I just can't imagine days of silence while people write slop that only gets read out of obligation is preferable.
Why do so many anime have white bunny rabbits in them.
>>98773521The Japanese like cute things
>>98773521adrenachrome messaging
>>98773521For the longest time they saw a rabbit in the moon making moon cakes
West: “there’s a man in the moon…”East: “there’s a rabbit in the moon :3”
>see a cyoa with a premise I can get into>it uses the hideously ancient 2D anime artstyles
>>98773640>>98773644Das so cute
Rabbits are evil. Satan’s minions. Stare into their eyes and you’ll see that nothing is in there. Similar to chickens.
>>98773521Its the Japanese mans ideal fem bottom
I started working on a cyoa where you have a dream that you were giving a good dicking to some mystical animal zodiac constellation goddess and she considered your dick so good that when you woke up you had somehow been sent thousands of years in the future where Humanity fucking killed itself and only animals are alive.Anyway that goddess you fucked blessed your cock and balls with divine power and you can mate with animals and their offspring come out more intelligent, loyal and with a choice of either animal, anthro or humanoid in foirm, so you can begin a tribe with your children from animals, take on challanges and encounter different animal tribe factions.What do you want to see in it?
Asians can’t into mystery and nebulousness. When they first heard about God and Christianity they kept asking what He/God looked like, thinking God was a humanoid figure like Buddha. They do not like answers that amount to “He is too big to describe”, or “he is everywhere and nowhere”, which is weird when the Tao is already like that, so I assume this is a sort of hangup from Buddhism/Hinduism (Indians see their gods as particularly superhero-y), which flowered in China.
>>98772748Can human take the same recovery disposition twice ?
>>98773717No. You need to waste a slot on that.
>>98772200Surprised you're still here.In 73, was Body Snatcher the only already picked bloodline.It mentions legendary beasts as a possible outcome, but that seems to be unavailable. Were these the last magic returning burst's equivalent to bloodlines?How many sorcerers have there been? Presumably all of the active schools have had a sorcerer at least once, but have any of the fallow schools had one?Chronomancy mentions there being a magical multiverse, are bloodlines present there as well? If so, are there identical bloodlines throughout? In the same vein, if this is the magic returning, have these bloodlines existed before?
>>98773689Underground mutant enemy drawback that descended from the rich elite that built bunkers thinking they could wait out the apocalypse.
>>98773689For my offspring to be forever lolis uoh
>>98773427You're early
>>98773805Power bugman... my beloved.
>>98772748PCA won
>>98773902What did he win and what's the prize?
>>98773137Summoning eldritch monsters yay
>>98773919>what's the prizegood dicking from anons
>>98773783i don't really remember most of these things, it was like 10 years ago i wrote that, at this point i'd feel closer to a player than an author while making interpretations
>>98773919He won the Disgusting Jingasa and the Fecal Breathing Ckoth.
>>98773932how will anons dick someone down when they are all little girls?
>>98774080futa loli perhaps?
>>98774090>>>/trash/85692105why are you doing this all at once
>>98774096?
>>98773689I don't want to fuck animals
>>98774120girls are animals anon
>>98774120u sure?
>>98774129Yeah but they're special animals>>98774130I am sure because the animal I'd be having to fuck wouldn't be the one in that pic. It would be this one.
>>98774030I see, well in any case, glad to see you're still kicking.
>>98773689I wouldn't fuck the animals, even if god told me toCould I fuck some plants instead or something?Ideally I would awaken to a small humanoid group and have to fuck them into real humans, but I doubt you'll do that one
kemonos are cutei would fuck those
>>98773689This outright bestiality CYOA is ironically still the better of two potential ideas that /cyoar/ came up with lately. The other one is about being turned into the only woman on earth that doesn't have superpowers, with a contrived and masochistic focus on how awful that would feel and how ostracized you'd be. Is there something in the water over there making people retarded?
>>98773090that is a sex slave
>>98774137Okay, I'll add a boon that makes you see the real world in 2D Anime vision
>>98774283that's just autism
>>98774202>Is there something in the water over there making people retarded?Our new authors have yet to impress me. It's mostly an issue of them being from reddit and not being exposed to the golden age cyoas of my time.
>>98774176No, make your own tree hugger cyoa if it pleases you>>98774184Once you fuck your first animal you can choose that your offspring either become more animals, were-creatures, kemonos or just humans with animal ears
>>98774308Can you go talk about bestiality somewhere else?
>>98774311Only if you talk about Spirit Conscript in your dedicated multiplayer containment board
>>98774326Deal. I won't talk about spirit conscript here. You may no longer talk about bestiality here.
Now that the two biggest obstacles in my way are gone, no one can contest my Spirit Conscript takes. And I WILL be using Shapeshifter to fuck ALL the animals.
>>98772809Take Eightfold Manacle instead of Laceration Touch.
>>98774352based
>>98774278Nah, then they wouldn't marry you.
>>98774333It’s a great thing you made no such promises for the rest of us. Seriously though what an awful idea for a cyoa. You’re telling me the only way to be normal is fuck an actual animal at least once and then commit incest with your kemono offspring?
>>98774396What's wrong with that? Are you saying Italics was wrong?
>>98773447This is related to OC, if you want a timeframe them probably around christmas. >>98773929Minions/summons will be their own section. But yes, various eldrich beings will be available. Currently brainstorming suitable names. I quite like "wallriders", but I suspect its from somewhere.
>>98774469>probably around christmas.of what year
>>98774463>Are you saying Italics was wrong?On all accounts (probably)
Reminder that pca is a closeted gay
>>98774505Is that supposed to be a problem?
>>98774472Hopefully this year.
>>98774510yes, but it's a mystery who's problem it is, so nobody's fixing it and nothing ever gets done
>>98774512You know for a fag he has excellent taste in women (judging by SC). Likewise the male options in SC are kind of weak…
>>98774521the boobs and waifuism was all just ironic rusing to make us angry
>>98772757I think this accurately shows why authors, especially one that hasn't even looked at their own oc in over a year, can't be trusted with their WOG.
>>98774536Just because you don’t like the answer doesn’t mean it’s wrong.
>>98772757>if it's made of matterThis was inb4d here >>98771541, sorry. If you don't present a balanced question and just feed your own biases into it instead, you can't prove anything.
>>98774538I don't care either way and wasn't in the actual debate but this answer is wrong on multiple levels just due to him saying shit like hollow purple going through matter or beating an endbringer.
heh heh 67>>98773668But bunnies are cute
>>98774544It's obvious anon was presenting more assumptions than what he greentexted here. Just trying to win an argument without actually doing so.
All of this could be solved if you just had a toolbox ability potentially capable of anything like spirit subjugation or oblative gesture.
/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/And Again Again Again, We return.College is back. I need to get better at using my timeBecause this is about 20 hours late, I'm going to move the end date forward a day. Sorry about thatA few times I only caught a cyoa on the second or third time it was postedIf I missed something, tell me and I'll include it in the next oneAs far as I know, the following is a complete list of cyoa's that released during the month of september:The eigth sin [Surinical]{11 pages}{Empire builder}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98680236/#98686893Thu 17 Sep 2026 12:12:56Union of kingdoms [Anon]{7 pages}{Wip}{Sparse}{Sci fi}(Already entered)https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98625737/#98628241Sat 05 Sep 2026 23:47:46Dog medicine [Surinical]{3 pages}{Ai art}{Power picker}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98655672/#98661821Sat 12 Sep 2026 14:45:18Outer Revival [Wodan]{2 Pages}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98634654/#98635748Mon 07 Sep 2026 13:15:55Ban tok [Tokhaar gol]{One page}{Update}(Extremely trivial update)https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98611805/#98612029Wed 02 Sep 2026 23:31:59Choose Your own Bat [Noface][Ersatzanon]{One page}{Recycling}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98611805/#98613264Thu 03 Sep 2026 03:03:18https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98611805/#98617475https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98611805/#98617565https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98611805/#98617604This Shit Is So Ass [Anon]{1 page}{Shitpost}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98625737/#98629561Sun 06 Sep 2026 06:02:01https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98630053/#98633265 {Update}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98634654/#98638464 {Update}GIFTSFROMIAMWODAN [I AM WODAN]{One page}{Collage}{Parody}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98634654/#98635336Mon 07 Sep 2026 10:05:444Elves [Ersatzanon]{1 page}{Ryoa}{Romance}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98641469/#98647157Wed 09 Sep 2026 17:28:55(1/2)
Pca is not gay He has said this before
>>98774556Everyone has that through technique artistry already. Spirit subjugation and oblative gestures aren't that great outside their own specific niches.
Get wognant get wognant
>>98772748I've been thinking about this for a while, but Spirit Conscript point balancing is kinda dumb. The opportunity cost of buying a legend technique for the cost of 2-3 basic techniques makes buying basic techniques a waste of points in most builds.I want to run a couple experiments, would anons mind making builds to see if they balance things better?>Experiment 1: Talent DiscountMaking a builds where your talent rating in one aura type provides a discount. This is to make basic techniques cheap, master techniques slightly less ecpensive, and leave legend techniques largely the same.Compare your "G" rating to the rating required for a technique, if you G rating is higher it subtracts it's value from the point cost.Example: Seismic Strike costs 5 poimt to buy.Your build has G3 in Core.Seismic Strike only requires G1.Seismic Strike now only costs 2 points for you.>Experiment 2: Aura Burst ModeKufoku mentions you'll be able to Double your points after completing an Aura Burst campaign, so why not make builds for that?Make a standard build for your freshly summoned conscript, then making Another build for your conscript after completing all their campaign missions.The second build gets build and equipment points equal to their starting "Potential"(45 for talented, 35 for mutated, etc). They get no bonus alterations.Given how the "Prodigy" alteration works,, double these bonus points points for your second build, but equipment points are not doubled.
>>98774562nta but oblative gesture doesn't have a 'niche'
>>98774559(2/2)Thirteen gifts [arkanon]{1 page}{Interactive}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98733733/#98737413https://thirteen-gifts-cyoa.pages.dev/Sun 27 Sep 2026 03:49:20Brawler problem [Anon]{Single Choice}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98680236/#98684585Wed 16 Sep 2026 22:32:29Buddhist isekai [Anon]{Single Choice}{Isekai}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98720299/#98723006Thu 24 Sep 2026 02:19:54https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98724846/#98727359You're Finally Awake From That Nightmare You Were Having [Fat doge]{Textpost}(Uninspired)https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98630053/#98632200Sun 06 Sep 2026 20:05:31Racist Genie [Anon]{Textpost}{Shitpost}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98634654/#98638935Tue 08 Sep 2026 00:43:54Unification choice [Anon]{Textpost}{Shitpost}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98634654/#98639235Tue 08 Sep 2026 02:03:13Outer Pill Picker [Anon]{None Choices}{Joke}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98641469/#98644047Wed 09 Sep 2026 00:32:01Some time ago now, anon suggested there should be a cyoa of the year. Knowing it to be too big a question for one vote I have split the task into twelveThe winners of these two polls will be inducted into the final cyoa of the year pollAlthough this mainly exists as a chance to reflect on the months OCAs always, you are encouraged to replay the above cyoa's before votingFirst choice poll: https://strawpoll.com/PKglevAoEZpRanking poll: https://strawpoll.com/B2ZB972axgJBoth close in 76 hours/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/
>>98774562There's just no way to meaningfully alter most techniques, oblative gesture and spirit subjugation are actually great examples of techniques that can't really have their effects altered.
Gilpregnation
>>98774396The incest part is fineIt's the turkish bit that brings the issue
>>98774568Because everything stacks synergistically and scales your thinking is a trap. Only buying expensive options limits your potential as you’ll get more mileage from different costed powers that work together.
>>98774568>Compare your "G" rating to the rating required for a technique, if you G rating is higher it subtracts it's value from the point cost.Suddenly my theoretical Flow builds went from "Murderfucked" by point costs to "Actually Viable".Flow really, Really needs this.
>>98774569He’s just shitposting at Softie who probably isn’t even here right now.
>>98774593It was murderfucked on overpowered or talented?
>>98774569Yeah it does. It's about comparatively very wasteful aura expenditure for achieving practically anything as long as it's spirit themed. Technically if you had infinite aura you could fight an entire martial arts duel with it. Practically you don't have the means to throw hundreds of attacks and perform hundreds of dodges as individual gestures. Therefore its niche is singual high-value actions that hopefully turn the tide of an engagement in your favor while you need to depend on other techniques as workhorses.>>98774576>There's just no way to meaningfully alter most techniquesTechnique artistry can "shape and modify their designed restrictions" and "shift their balance and utility". As a general description of the field. That's not technique artistry legend, even initiate is already doing it.This is why it's usually pointless to take special technique. You don't need it when you can just modify your technique cast and get a special technique for free, in all your techniques, and in a way that you can change deliberately.
>>98774565>>98774577You are disgusting
>>98774604>inefficient on auraIt costs like 3 aura why are you trying this argument again?
>>98774591>Only buying expensive options limits your potential as you’ll get more mileage from different costed powers that work together.Not seeing much that can counter an Illumination of the Heart + God Hand + Time Slipping Saber build that invests in Heavenly Instrament, Pure Body, and Legendary Skills.
>>98774608A fight isn't a single attack. Fighting with oblative gesture on the same level some dude who devoted 8 aura might cost you thousands of aura.>againSomeone else already told you this? Lmao.
>>98774604The highest cost we have is 3 retard, you could make this argument about noble commandment but oblative gesture has access to a humongous toolbox just out of the gate comparatively.
Cyoas where the previous dark lord comes out of retirement and casually replaces the current one?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mheZ-7oEZ5U&pp=ygUPS25kIGdyYW5kZmF0aGVy&ra=m
>>98774604Ok how do you deliberately modify oblative gesture, spirit subjugation, meteor drive, or frankly most any core ability?
>>98774604>Not taking special technique and technique artistry to stretch a technique concepts to its maximum limits
>>98774596>overpoweredThis.Flow needs a shit tone of Aura too since everything is so devotion expensive. All the section for it brag abput combining conduction mode, states, and series techniques, but stack morr than some basic techniques is a fast path to aura 0.The Senguru must has Aura Pools of 50-100.
>>98774624That is one long fucking tracker anonThe FBI must loathe you
>>98774611>Purebodyfags (plural now I guess)I grow tired of these circles. You can’t even take illumination the heart with pure body. Did you read the powers? Also a build who took all of those options but dropped god hand in favor of legend statuses and basic enhancements you can’t take like initiate statuses is fucking you up.
>>98774619It's like you're deliberately misunderstanding me? I didn't disagree about the toolbox part? That IS the niche. You just can't brute force with it because that would take thousands of aura to achieve what some other guy achieved for a devotion of maybe 8.>>98774627Simplest examples are always "more aura for more effect" and "less aura for less effect". With initiate, you might make one gesture that usually costs 3 aura cost only 1 aura, but only be 10% as strong. Sometimes you don't need it to be stronger, and in that case this is pure benefit.
>>98774637>technique artistry lets me make my technique weaker instead of just holding my power back normallywoweeee
>>98774641You can't hold your power back normally without technique artistry. Without technique artistry, you're using black boxes that you don't understand.
>You can't hold your power back normally without technique artistry.ahahahahahahahahhahahahahhaha
>>98774648I accept your concession., you cute and helpless little brainlet you.
>>98774637Oh anon thinks oblative gestures offensive summons are weak, I see why you heavily underestimate it now.
Holy shit how are niggas this fucking stupid
>>98774648>>98774655Wronganon back at it again it seems.
>>98774568Anon, your 1st option makes Alchemy even more overpowered. A lot of Alchemy options are 1 or 2 points at the basic level and half their great techniques would become less than 5 points each.
>>98774652I think you heavily underestimate great techniques with aura devotion. I mean, does your fantasy go something like "those guys are idiots for needing 50 different techniques for this, i'll just use a single one and be just as good as them :)"? Where do you think the balance is supposed to be there?
How does the sealed alteration interact with other transformation abilities? Does it count as undoing semi permanent form changes?
>>98774633Purebody is probably the biggest psyop in this cyoa. It oneshot so many bronze ranked casual autists it's crazy.
>>98774660Are you sure? Looking at it, Ithink it brings alchemy more on par with Phase and Flow, whivh also have a lot of basic options at 3-4 points or less.
>>98774670If there's no drawback alteration involved for the actual shape of your form, however you want it to. You're only wrangled into a form by stuff like age disjunction and genderswap that are specifically about how you look. Sealed is an aura pool drawbacks.
>>98774671It’s driving me insane bro. I can’t handle how illiterate anons are. It clearly states you can only take racials, martial arts, and improvisational arts including secret variants but people will still try and force other restricted things.
>>98774568>>Experiment 1: Talent Discount>Making a builds where your talent rating in one aura type provides a discount. This is to make basic techniques cheap, master techniques slightly less ecpensive, and leave legend techniques largely the same.>Compare your "G" rating to the rating required for a technique, if you G rating is higher it subtracts it's value from the point cost.Just looking at my various builds for this, it does make seemingly baseline things easy to take, my core, flow and alchemy builds all look much better. Funny enough, it doesn't affect my spirit summoner build much since I have a high empasis on aura and skills.I do think this biases limitless meridians even more though.
>>98773137>>98774469Well fine then. Let's say body puppeteering to snap and crack their body parts or force them to kill their friends. Bonus points if it's done via controlling their blood or bones rather than with mental effect.
>>98774632Wat
>>98774684>I do think this biases limitless meridians even more thoughYeeeeep. I really couldn't think of a way to avoid that, so I just doubled down and made Prodigy also OP in experiment 2.My thinking is that if I come up with enough different experimental point adjustments, then I can spread the damage across all the different alterations. If you have any ideas for ecperiments 3 and 4, please share.
>>98774568I think techniques should be priced the way they are. You're looking at it purely as a point optimization exercise, but this is partially also about worldbuilding. What does the current CYOA say about the state of techniques in the world versus your ideas? I think yours are less natural for the described society of Youdu and would produce different Youdus.>Kufoku mentions you'll be able to Double your points after completing an Aura Burst campaign, so why not make builds for that?Nothing is preventing you. I kind of already do that in my normal builds, I just phrase it under the technique collection campagin as a wishlist.
>>98774571/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/I have linked the wrong poll....Those contain union of kingdoms, which they shouldn'tReal polls:First choice poll: https://strawpoll.com/GPgVY9kbvnaRanking Poll: https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJa53rGg3My death feels slightly closer now/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/POLL/
>>98774699Video link:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mheZ-7oEZ5UTracker:&pp=ygUPS25kIGdyYW5kZmF0aGVy&ra=mThat tracker is much bigger then the normal ones
>>98774715i don't recognize any of this garbage, therefore i conclude your poll is only filled out by bottom feeding garbage collectors, and any information you get from it is biased towards them
>>98774713>What does the current CYOA say about the state of techniques in the world versus your ideas?It actually kind of agrees with anon though? If you read the aura talent entrees, all the higher talemt options mention how you pick up their techniques faster and more easily. Having access to aura At All makes you a 1 in 10 talent in youdo, having G2 talent makes you a prodigy, and having G3 talent in just one aura type is explicitly a "Once in a Generation" rare event. Anon's ex1 is actually lore accurate from that angle.
>>98774740Trying to force prices to be cheaper is just gameplayfag bs. If overpowered isn’t enough for your build just give up or make a burst build.
>>98774559Every one of these cyoas sucked absolute ass
>>98774722They don't win, so I wouldn't assume soI hope to be as impartial as possible, because the purpose of a poll is to allow the community to assign the values, and as of such assigning my own would be undercutting the thingAlso, most of those as quite short, You could consider reading them
>>98772748What benefits does Eccentric actually give you besides the points? Like what is a "strange trait of my aura system" supposed to do?
>>98774740>If you read the aura talent entrees, all the higher talemt options mention how you pick up their techniques faster and more easily.Not exactly? Unless we're thinking of different things, what it actually does is make you better with techniques of the affinity. That's not the same as learning them more easily, since learning them isn't done by using them, it's done by some meridian carving process that takes massive amounts of aura.>>98774744Usually, but not always. There's room for benefit of the doubt.
>>98774760It's just the points in practice. If you want to be granular about it for roleplay or aesthetics, whatever you get for the 6 points is something you have by being a special boy under the header of eccentric, however you want to fluff it.
>>98774748We have had better monthsI liked Thirteen gifts. Outer pill picker was funnyIt is what it is
>>98774752no, i will remain bitter and unmoved
>>98774720Am I really that much of a naughty boy, though? I will admit I’ve probably been banned hundreds of times by now… but still…
I keep trying to make a generalist alchemy build cause anons said I would like it better but I just keep ending up with hypnotist's spiral eye.
>>98774784Just take the three master statuses and try to do absolutely everything with only them.
>>98774632>>98774720It’s probably the matterjeet Motherfucker is a snake
My build is 1 beneficial alteration over budget even with the ambivalent alteration.... Why are there no choices for more?? AhhhhH!!! PCAAAA!!!
>>98774744>If overpowered isn’t enough for your buildAnon, my personal opinion is that legendary skills aren't expensive Enough to match the lore behind them. A build with more than 1 shouldn't happen unless you're a thousand year old spirit. I agree with experiment anon that the points aren't balanced correctly.
>>98772389We will post OR every thread until you like it.>>98774548Kill yourself now.
>>98774789My thought process keeps going to:Have access to everying, but alchemy still bad at combat ----> alchemy bad at combat need to rely on summons or mind control -----> summons generally kind of bad without heavy specialization -------> mind control it is with sigils -------> if going sigils and not caring about mind control being bad, take hypnotists (doesn't help its probably favorite ability, I like command powers and eye powers)
>>98774799>He wants to make powers even more expensive.Yeah if it makes you feel better you can pretend they’re more expensive for npcs. It’s not like players are going to be spawning en masse (most are overpowered). They’re rare for the setting but not for the isekai protagonist we are.
>>98774798Ambivalent alteration is the most self-harmful choice you can make in the CYOA in terms of future potential by the way. You never get those five points back, even once it takes a hundred thousand years to cultivate just one more point of max reserve.>>98774818If you want alchemy to be directly good at combat, get a strong summon and fuse it into yourself through universal sovereign. You are now the strong summon.
>>98774817I love Sakura!!!
>>98774823It's fine, I'm making a combat avoiding minion build.
>>98774823I don’t really care if i’m being honest. 30 aura is plenty for me
>>98774817OR brings me joy every time its posted. I still think it's Tank's best work, can't believe people put Fate above it. It's good, but can't beat an original setting that's actually compelling.
>>98774823>You are now the strong summon.Butchery weapon trait go brrrrrr
>>98774688>Bonus points if it's done via controlling their blood or bones rather than with mental effect.Thats actually one I already thought of. Its an upgrade to the "pull someones blood out of their body" power. Although maybe that should be the other way round.
>>98774841That would only partially work. The usual reason it's so good is because of the mirroring effect, but that's not relevant here.
>>98774823>even once it takes a hundred thousand years to cultivate just one more point of max reserve.You might not be able to. The ambivalent alteration prevents you from taking meridian ecpansions and the cultivation skill is explicitly about cultivation from your Past Life.Taking the ambivalent alteration might straight-up lock you at your starting aura Permanently. Really puts the "mesding with the soul" line in clearer context.
>>98774862There are plenty of anti-spirit traits to stack it with for maximum alchemist-nuking.
>>98774864I wouldn't be that harsh.>>98774871Yes, but then you're specialized at fighting this one dude. What about that dude behind you who used flow to turn into a giant blood blob and is about to become an even larger blob when he adds your blood to his own?
>>98774884>then you're specialized at fighting this one dude.To be fair, there's a lot of that "one dude". Spirits, chimera, and rogue alchemist seem to make up 70% of the threats in youdo(with another 20% being the blue youkai), and senguru blood blobs being more of an exception rather than the rule
>>98774906I'd say in aura practitioner terms they're kind of just four roughly 25% groups divided by affinities. Only after you start including non-humans does alchemy start being more common. Though I guess exotic biology is also common out there among the non-humans, so that kind of also covers core. Meaning that flow and phase must be the least-countered affinities.
>>98774789>>98774823Tangentially related but this is what I keep going too. I was trying to stay away from mind control before cause everybody hates it but I keep going back to it for this build.>Benevolent AlterationsPure PoolMystic BeautyCharismaticProdigyPerennial LotusSignature Technique (Hypnotist's Spiral Eye)>Malignant AlterationsHellfire DebtOld GrudgesMagmatic>Aura SystemVast Generalist>Meridian Expansion+8>Recovery DispositionNutritionLust>Aura AffinitiesCore G2Phase G2Flow G2Alchemy G3>Aura Pool50>TrainingCultivation - LegendTechnique Artistry - LegendCeremony - LegendTactics - LegendInvestigation - LegendDeceit - MasterStealth - MasterTinkering - Master>Basic Release TechniquesSense AuraBody EnhancementSense KarmaCarnal Body SigilIndoctrinating Body SigilMerciful RecidivismInitiate Status—Arcane AcumenSense Enhancement >Great Release TechniquesNoble CommandmentLifegiving Immolation BlessingInitiate Status—TransmutationMaster Status—Transfiguration>Legendary Release TechniquesHypnotist's Spiral Eye
>>98774906>with another 20% being the blue youkaiThe blue demon clan would call you racist, and they'd do it while still raping a kidnapped husband in front of his wife.
>>98774926>I'd say in aura practitioner terms they're kind of just four roughly 25% groups divided by affinitiesI didn't say "population" anon, I said Threats. The Majushin are almost proud of the fact they cause most of the isdues youdo is dealing with.
>>98774927If it was me I'd drop hypnotist and get universal sovereign instead. Then I'd go undead so I could get vampire body, which creates a combo with universal sovereign that makes your lifespan infinite in both soul and body. Then I'd just open a shop and sell lifegiving immolation blessings because there's no downside anymore.
>>98774542JFC anon, just take the L and move on.
>>98774823>You never get those five points back,Well it's not like you're getting that extra alteration either.
>>98774953Yeah, they're weird. Just like that guy who wants to be an insurgent because he's an insurgent. Only the smoothes and tightest of circular reasoning there.>>98774958You couldn't argue in the thread so you made up bullshit on discord, but you couldn't even do that competently and you made it obvious. You're pathetic and I've lost all respect for you.
>>98774937>and they'd do it while still raping a kidnapped husband in front of his wife.H-hot...
>>98774976https://discord.gg/pQNuhwgbPYou can just go there and see for yourself, it's in Cyoa-Discussion.
>>98775003I don't need to. It's already posted in this thread. PCA basically say "if it's made of matter, then you are right". That's like you asked him "Hey PCA, if I'm right, then am I right?" You can't presuppose your own assumption is correct as part of the question and expect me to play along.
>>98774864>Taking the ambivalent alteration might straight-up lock you at your starting aura PermanentlyI'm pretty sure that argument already happened here and the answer was it doesn't.
>>98773693He looks like an Italian Renaissance guy with long hair.
>>98774360Why?
>>98775020> PCA basically say "if it's made of matter, then you are right".Consider reading the rest of the quote please.>That's like you asked him "Hey PCA, if I'm right, then am I right?"Literally the question I asked was 'Would Living World Refolding stop Paradox Point?'. That's it.
>>98775043Aura draining
>>98775051Clearly not, because why would he say "if it's made of matter" in that case? What was the alternative to that if, and why didn't you post what his answer would have been in that case? Your lying and manipulative nature is plain to see.
>>98774568Yea basic techniques are basically worthless because of how much they cost and a single legendary can tide over a potential maxer for quite a while.>>98774591And you can get your basic synergy after you land but the legendaries will be locked away.
you guys should give this a rest, asking an author about their own cyoa that was written years earlier is retarded, i've been wrong about my own cyoas after so much time has passed and some reader pointed it out and corrected me plenty of times
>>98775063>why would he say "if it's made of matter" in that case?...That's a general statement which is meant to apply to this specific case. The whole thing is 'if it's made of matter Paradox Point goes through it, thus Paradox Point goes through Living World Refolding'.
>>98775108Anon, our entire argument was about whether that specific case is true or not. If you asked that way, the answer you got was "if you are right, then you are righ" as I said before. You being correct was already asumed in the question so the answer to it was a foregone conclusion.
>>98774611Don't make us Purebodys look bad, we can't take IOTH (considered if making it a Special Technique to make it a "Martial Art" would be viable though).>>98774671>>98774682Purebodys really ought to be able to take passives to be fair, but as one myself I can say that the appeal of Purebody is essentially the anti potential maxer. You come out of the gate with a coherent build that can immediately get shit done at the cost of being limited long term. A normal build is ALWAYS incomplete even if they resist potential maxing too much.
>>98775137Pure body is mechanically sound, it's just fluffed badly. It's supposed to be the option where you can only take martial arts and benefit from it more than other people. All the confusion comes from the excuse for that option existing being poorly conceived.
>>98775124>Anon, our entire argument was about whether that specific case is true or notNo, the argument was about whether or not LWF stopped Paradox Point. Your defence was that LWF layers aren't matter so Paradox Point won't work. If the answer was meant to be 'LWF doesn't do matter so Paradox Point wouldn't work' PCA would've obviously said that.
>>98774799I kind of agree with this. I would also consider a limit on how many legendaries you can take as it's always better to load up on them.
>>98775137>A normal build is ALWAYS incomplete even if they resist potential maxing too much.not really, all of builds and my builds are complete at the start, either overpowered or talented doesn't matteryes, the CSI+WLE build is complete just by having those two and chimerae to snack on, sure it can use some martial arts on top but pure body can also use more martial artsyes, the triple master status alchemist build is complete just by having those three, it's so extremely broad with preparation that there's very little it can't do, sure it could use some more summons or universal sovereign but those are details, not the main courseyes, the fully-focused flow build is complete as i start with it, i have all the conductions i need to do the elemental shenanigans it's supposed to, sure it can use more support techniques but who doesn't?
>>98775086>Yea basic techniques are basically worthless because of how much they costPeople were saying this from day 1.The point costs of techniques in the cyoas own terms mean that learning 1 basic techniques takes the same time and energy as spending a lifetime mastering a martial art as your main proffession.It's logistically imposdible for most of the companions to know the techniques they do, because most of them are too young for that to be mathmatically possible.
>>98775164His answer was "if it's made of matter, then it doesn't work", not "it's made of matter, therefore it doesn't work". Very big difference there, manipulative anon.>>98775172Basic techniques are supposed to take years to learn, so some autist only focusing on basics could casually learn 20 of them in the course of a normal human life, or maybe up to 40 if he does literally nothing else with his time for some reason.
>>98774571>>98774715I'll abstain again. God, please make October a good month, I beg of you...
>>98775184>His answer was "if it's made of matter, then it doesn't work",Again, read the rest of the quote.
>>98774823It depends on the full impact of it. Five aura points for an alteration? Good trade even if your cap is always a little lower. Post landing meridian expansions are possible but now you are locked out of them forever? Not so good. Is it possible to heal the damage? Unknown. Would healing the damage remove the alteration? Unknown. Practically a lot of builds actually want another drawback (particularly Magnatic but others as well). If aura is truly the end all be all more builds should be human and take corrupt pool on top.
>>98774283cool
>>98775194If the conditional is false, then the conclusions that follow from it are also false.
>>98775200Genuinely are you ESL? The entire rest of his response is about how LWF does not stop Paradox Point.
>>98775204I'm thinking you might be, honestly. Do you know what the word "if" means? This can't be made any more clear.
>>98774884Butchery trait should be applied via beloved name blessing when it's needed but not one of a heavenly instruments precious permanents
>>98775059Okay I get the rationale, I will think about it.
>>98775212>Im pretty sure conceptually LWR is just Endbringer armor from Worm and Paradox point is just hollow purple>So would hollow purple oneshot an endbringer>And I think you can see, fictional deathbattle enthusiasts, that it would
>>98775230>if
>>98775171Good for you anon. Age of Truth and the Aura burst is a complete waste of time right?
>>98775235There is no if anywhere in those sentences.
>>98775196At the rate of one aura per x retarded amount of years who even wants cultivation? Fuck do I need a pittance after eons of existence
>>98775196We need to presume that the amount of alterations you start with is a fairly harsh limit. Otherwise kofuko would have offered more, and ambivalent wouldn't be as awful as it is.We also need to remember that there are two types of expansion to one's reserve, natural cultivation which has logarithmic growth, and stuff that expands it while ignoring that logarithmic growth which includes most options in the CYOA, since that was the logic the author used IIRC during discussions like this.The question is which of those two types of reserve increase is the -5 from ambivalent alteration acting as a decrease in? Probably (but not certainly) the same one as meridian expansion. So do you think meridian expansions work against your cultivation limit? Are they just preloading a few centuries of cultivation into you? Or are they artificial grafts, more similar to pure pool, that have nothing to do with cultivation?
>>98775184>so some autist only focusing on basics could casually learn 20 of them in the course of a normal human life, or maybe up to 40Anon, they don't take years, they take Decades. A 6 point basic technique take the time and energy it requires to gain 3 Masters Degrees(which is a bachrlors + 2 years, 8 years on average). That's 24 YEARS, that's 4 years per point.Assuming you started training at 5, no human would be able to learn 10 Basic techniques.
>>98775248Yeah, but those sentences still follow from that if. You can't cherry pick. You would have if you were more competent, and your manipulations would have worked, if only in your own mind. But, unfortunately for you, you weren't competent enough to hide what you were doing. You already got the advantage of phrasing the question exactly as you needed to to milk your own conclusion from it. That you didn't hide it when you did that is just extra pathetic. But clearly you did try to hide it, since the question isn't there in that post. This is just funny, honestly. What was wrong with the question you asked, anon? Why not share it?
>>98775249Pretty sure that's why Kofuko is willing to permanently reduce his power to make us. It isn't THAT big of a deal. I can understand that the mixed alteration should be carefully considered (which means Talented is proved supreme once again) and shouldn't be wasted on an alteration you don't really think would contribute but it is something to consider.
>>98775270>Anon, they don't take years, they take Decades.Author said years for basic techniques once we finally got him to cave here in the thread. It was because of an argument between someone thinking it's decades and someone else thinking it's weeks. I guess the vagueness finally got to him.
>>98775270>That's 24 YEARS, that's 4 years per point....The Prodigy Alteration is suddenly looking really good for my next build.
>>98775295>Author said years for basic techniques once we finally got him to cave here in the thread.He never got into specifics and I'm pretty sure he was just covering his own as because he never actually thought the traing times through. The "Decades" interpretation comes from the skill system, which outright gives you hard measures for how initiate, master, and legend ranks
The Golden Truth... A True Son?
>>98775317We're in our SC era, anon. Read the room.
So does future cultivation really take hundreds of years for a single aura point?
>>98775315I don't think the decades interpretation is reasonable. Even years is kind of a stretch, given how young and accomplished the companions are. Clearly it's not that hard and you're just inferring from points in a way you shouldn't be. Furthermore, the author said it, even if it was possibly under the duress of angry anons arguing with each other, so that's a better estimate.You could possibly claim that shitters with g1/g1/g0/g0 and 6 aura reserve take decades. That may make a lot more sense. But not a player or companion.For me personally, decades would be superior, becuase I prefer loading up on techniques rather than potentialfaggotry. So I'm not arguing about this for the sake of my own builds. It's just what the author said.
>>98775270Which makes no fucking sense if you read the companion section. How old do you think Hanna and Noriko are? Or even Mai given that she has such a strong base? I said it last thread and I will say it again ANY number for training time either doesn't make sense or validates potential maxing so hard that we should all be institute apprentices with no techniques. The issue is the cyoa uses one currency for almost everything. Release techniques should have had an exclusive currency.
>>98774957>Then I'd just open a shop and sell lifegiving immolation blessings because there's no downside anymoreThe eternal jew...
>>98775340It's not an issue. You just can't assume point cost translates to time spent learning across all categories in the CYOA.
>>98775270>4 years per point.So even with my "Talent reduces Costs" scenarion, Seismic Strike would take 8 years for a G3 core user to learn? Holy Shit, what do people even spend that time Doing???
>>98775343Yeah. Undead are in fact the jews of Youdu. It makes perfect sense.
>>98775346Not what I said.
>>98775346>You just can't assume point cost translates to time spent learning across all categories in the CYOA.Anon, that's called bad design.
>>98774864As another anon said, the author confirmed its not the case.Taking ambivalent alteration lets you train to gain more aura.>>98774823>Ambivalent alteration is the most self-harmful choice you can make in the CYOA in terms of future potential by the way. Depends on the benevolent alteration and drawback you pick.Magmatic is not a bad drawback.Heavenly instrument is op. For example, the choices above are worth 5 less points of aura.
>>98775351Ask Noriko. She learned at least 68 years worth of techniques in a few months, by anon's logic. Possibly more, since those are only her favorites.
>>98775351>Holy Shit, what do people even spend that time Doing???For seismic strike? Probably focussing and hitting something... for 8 years....
>>98774937H-hot!
>>98775365She’s the fucking goat is what
>>98775359No, it's just design. If it works in favor of the goal, then it's good design, while if it doesn't then it's bad design. Was the goal making sure points are a perfect measure of training times across the board, or was the goal making a fun CYOA with a tailored power level for the reader?
>>98775375I kneel. This anon has a functioning brain and possesses eyes that work.
Training time also validates limitless meridians as having G3s will shorten it further. Being insanely talented is almost always worth it.
>>98775385We don't know that high affinity makes you learn faster. We only know it makes you better at using techniques once you do have them. Because of the way learning works by carving shapes into your meridians, those are not necessarily the same.
>>98775375>No, it's just design.Anon, that's the same cope every retarded engineer tries to hide behind when their shitty diagram fails. Yes, it's bad design. Good Design has to be multi-layered and predict potential issues in the process of trying to achieve it's goals. One-track thinking is a hallmark of bad design.
>>98775288>Yeah, but those sentences still follow from that if.Those are separate sentences. LWR IS conceptually like Endbringer armor, that's not a maybe, that's how it was designed. >your manipulationsdude.>. But clearly you did try to hide it, since the question isn't there in that post.>>98772757 Read please, for the love of god. Or at least open the discord link I shared, where I literally told you where to find exactly what was written.
>>98775020>PCA basically say "if it's made of matter, then you are right". holy reading comprenhension.My guy, he was describing Paradox Point.>If its made of matter, paradox point punches through it im pretty sureThis means, if something is made of matter, paradox goes through it. So he was saying "yeah, Paradox goes through matter" he thought the problem was people misunderstanding paradox not going through matter. He didn't know your problem was with LWRThen he continued >So yeah when an infinite needle hits a (very high but still fundamentally) finite number of sheets of paper, it goes through themHe talked about LWR, making an example with a very high number of sheets of paper.And to further proves this>Im pretty sure conceptually LWR is just Endbringer armor from Worm and Paradox point is just hollow purpleHe compares LWR to endbringer armor, that is MATTER btw, layers of MATTER.You were wrong, accept it.
>>98775393Or maybe the design just had different goals than the ones you'd prefer it to.Look anon, what difference would it make anyway? The CYOA is still practically the same. You'll still need a few decades a legendary technique even if basic ones take a few years.
>>98775385>Being insanely talented is almost always worth it.Still get BTFO by the optimized charisma build that can craft their own harem npcs.
>>98775375NTA but my understanding of the powers relative to each other is based on the costs. I would hate to make a build that spends 10 points one way and find out that I cost myself decades of training because I should have bought a different 10 points worth of powers that were of greater value.
>>98775402>>98775396We've already gone through this four times. Post the entire conversation so that I can confirm you didn't lead the answer with the questions yourself, or the conversation is over.
>>98775404>Or maybe the design just had different goals than the ones you'd prefer it to.>M-maybe the goal for the car I designed wasn't driving on mississipi roadsStandard retard engineer cope.
>>98775405Everyone knows harem spam is the cheapest and most efficient way to break the game. People don’t do it because it’s boring
>>98775408but..but...i already did...
>>98775406Maybe you're right, but only for techniques. Maybe techniques do scale linearly with point costs, but they're very different than trainings.Or maybe there's another factor, and being a great technique multiplies it, being a legendary technique multiplies it, being a status technique multiplies it, being a secret technique multiplies it, etc.We're lucky to have the answer of "years" for basic techniques as it is. Everything else is going to remain uncertain.
Best/most interesting alchemy commander build?
>>98775422Obviously the sorcerer eye build, whoever made it must be extremely hot and rich.
>>98775418The ENTIRE conversation. You didn't even post the most important part, your own god damn question. What, did PCA just randomly start hallucinating our conversation unprompted? Lmao.
>>98775416>People don’t do it because it’s boringNah, people don't do it because they're too lazy to make the harem member builds.The one anon that actually did make an npc harem and posted their builds got a lot of positive engagement in this thread.
>>98775391In a vacuum maybe but being good at something almost always translates to learning it faster. We can pull an explicit fag argument about it but any reasonable person who reads the descriptions of the affinities is going to conclude that higher level affinities will translate into learning new abilities in those affinities easier and as a result faster.
>>98775433...that was the entire conversation. Again, you can just go to discord, using the link I already gave you, and check it out yourself...
>>98775422>>98775432Hypnotist's spiral eye, obviously. You just go around enslaving all the alchemists and commanding them.
>>98775351The 4 year per point thing is out of his ass. Don't listen to him.
>>98773454That feels a bit too "disney villain", but I assume this isnt a serious suggestion anyways.
>>98775446>...that was the entire conversation.So he did just start hallucinating unprompted. I kneel before your wisdom.
>>98773137Gravity manipulation
Finished my Spirit Conscript build, now to make the image build.
>>98775408Happy?
>>98775455Legitimately what are you even talking about anymore? I asked the guy a question, he answered, I copy and pasted the answer here. That's it.
>>98775449>The 4 year per point thing is out of his ass.No, it's out of GOOD ENGINEERING PRINCIPLES REEE
>>98775421>We're lucky to have a vague, half-hearted answer that the author gave under duress when they were getting backlash from anons that worked out the year-per-point mathAnon, PCA likely didn't actually think of a training time-frame and just made up an amswer on the spot. It wouldn't be the first time an author was wrong about their own cyoa either.
>>98775456Any particulars? I feel like I want to stay away from "broad" powers. So "gravity manipulation" is fine as a concept, but itd be broken up into like "crushing someone by intensifying the gravity around them" or "creating a gravity singularity" or whatever, rather than all purpose manipulation (I feel like those sorts of powers end up doing too much and ending up with very limited and "do everything" sections with much overlap)
>>98775466I know this is irony but I am curious how he reached that conclusion, when several characters way below our own talent, are in their 20s and have decades of techniques as just their favourites with his own logic.
>>98775471Creating a singularity probably
>>98775460W- *Gulp* Where can I buy this doll?....
>>98775461No, because it still doesn't explain where the "if" part came from.
>>98775476Walmart. Just go up to them and ask for it as loudly as you can.
>>98775436Chimeralord is something of an exception.
>>98775473Autism spiral. It happens to us all when we're into large and complicated CYOAs.
>>98775449>The 4 year per point thing is out of his assIt from the skill section, but anons math seem off. It would be 4 years per point if you only looked at legend tier options, lower options are closer to 2 years per point.
>>98775476Sorry, dunno
This is Advanced Copium.
>>98775465You asked him your side of the question, and he answered yours. His answer doesn't engage with what I was arguing at all.
>>98775421That creates issues as well. Maybe we should buy trainings over other things for the same reason. I will say the crazy descriptions of certain legend level trainings make me want to pick them over other choices as for 2/3 points over a master training you improve the skill by orders of magnitude. The description of say legendary tactics exceeds what I think I would be capable of with a lifetime of study and then you apply that to the other skills related to your build and you decide that you NEED to take legendary martial arts NOW or you are losing out basically forever.
>>98775460I dont care about your build dollanon, please just work on your cyoa insteadI want more OC, now!
>>98775484>ChimeralordI think he's talking about chimeralord's rival, the white lotus guys that were gonna burn down the shoalin temple.I remember some npc called "horsebreaker" anons were thirsting over like they just walked out of the sahara.
>>98775477As you can see, there is no comment about it before.PCA wasn't manipulated in some way to say you are wrong.The "if" comes from explaining how Paradox Point works."If its made of matter, paradox point punches through it im pretty sure"This is explaining paradox point. IF SOMETHING IS MATTER, IT GOES THROUGH.its like saying, Ilumination of the Heart vs seismic strike.If something would damage the soul, Illumination of the heart defends the soul.Does this mean I am questioning seismic strike hurting the soul? No, I am explaining what IotH does.Him explaining LWR goes after that"So yeah when an infinite needle hits a (very high but still fundamentally) finite number of sheets of paper, it goes through themIm pretty sure conceptually LWR is just Endbringer armor from Worm and Paradox point is just hollow purple"He explained LWR as endbringer armor, matter. Layers of matter.
>>98775504Sure that guy counts I guess. He did get engagement but people did agree that it was essentially gaming the system. It’s easily the most point efficient way to have as many powers as possible.
>>98775501In my opinion, trainings are shit point investmetns compared to techniques. If you have a free alteration then hard training can still be good, but for regular points I'd never waste them on training. I'd rather learn athletics the hard way and already have resolute center during it than the other way around.
>>98775504I think that guy did get butt-blasted for it. Chimeralord is the only one people seem to give any credit too for making companions. Personally I wish he gave us statblocks for some of them.
>>98775501Scholarship is a nad one for thst too. The jump from master to legend triples the education for double the points. You're actually wasting points by not maxing it out.
>>98775474That sounds good. My current plan (and I dont intend to get too much into WIP posting/explaining, so this is more or less all youre going to get) is that there will be several "archetypes" you pick, which determine which powers you have access to and which powers cost how much (some powers may be at discounts for some archetypes, more expensive, or outright locked off (maybe)). The current archetypes I have planned are:>Destroyer"dark cosmic" in theme, gravity manipulation, black holes, tearing reality asunder and collapsing dimensions and stuff, sentient black hole. >SlayerThe more martial/murderer one, about personal killing power in the form of techniques and weapon use>CorrupterThe more "devil" themed one, all about making people worse, lots of mental powers and seduction of evil stuff.>ReaperUndead/necromancy themed one. >OutsiderEldrich horror themed one, powers around breaking reality, things like impossible anatomy and driving people insane with your presence. >Darkwalker"darkness"/"shadow" themed one, teleporting through darkness, controlling shadows, fear empowerment, that sort of thing. Youre the boogeyman. A singularity feels right at home for the first of these (thats where the black hole mentioned is from/has already been added to, the original concept was basically just "collapsing reality" because I felt like a sort of "reverse planeswalking" was cool and spooky, like a door to nothingness)
>>98775506Look, just ask him if living world refolding creates matter or if it's an aura field. That'll be easier and represent my side of the argument as well as yours.
>>98775518chimeralord spent most of his build enabling those creations. Unlike the other guy who just games companions
Baba OlgaFavorite Techniques: Watching Paper Sigil, Herbal Lunar Pool, Alchemy Master Status—Transmutation.The witch Baba Olga owns a small boutique of mystical curiosities in the Canal District, often seen sneakily peering through her blinds at passersby. Everyone in town knows she’s crazy. If you’re willing to enter her smoky shop of jujus, you’ll find all sorts of charms and curses available to you. She might not even charge you if she likes you enough. You’d best hope she doesn’t, though. Her motherly cooing and offers of private tea parties will inevitably give way to possessive mutterings, strange off-kilter remarks, and scramblings to hide morbid or frightening articles. She may seem like a lonely, secluded witch on the outside, but the crazed gleam in her emerald eyes tells another story.As a Companion, Baba Olga doesn’t tend towards social situations or combat, instead choosing to provide enchantments and curses to you from the comfort of her home. If you return to her after a long battle, she’ll lovingly nurse you to health with salves, fragrant oils and Lunar baths, which she will cheerily administer by hand even if you don’t really need them. It’s of little importance to her what you do for a living, as long as she can help. She refuses any compensation you offer for mystical objects, enchantments, curses or charms, and has a brilliant mind for taking your enemies down in the cruelest and most cutthroat strategies imaginable. Things you wouldn’t inflict on your worst enemies. In the midst of long baths or tea parties with her collection of stuffed animals, she’ll make it abundantly clear that she knows more about this City—and your opponents—than she lets on.
>>98775534As a Romance, Baba Olga treasures you like a precious puppy, smothering you with warm, suffocating kisses and embraces as she runs her fingers through your hair and coos with a shaky, shivering voice how much she loves you over and over. She’s never been in love before, so she’s quite forward when she craves you. She has no hesitation about stealing long, passionate kisses and tactless touches from you at every opportunity, even in public. Her bedroom is a deathtrap, a place where you can expect to be locked away with her for hours or even days at a time. The things she’ll do to you certainly shouldn’t be mentioned in polite company, though she’s happy to tactlessly divulge the details to others anyway. She’s not the kind of girl for nights out, and would really prefer if you just stayed still and let her obsess over you in the dark. Occasionally, you might have to indulge her various delusions and imaginations, as she doesn’t exactly have all her marbles sometimes.As a Rival, Baba Olga never deals in direct confrontation. She plants curses and dark magic in places you can’t possibly anticipate, keeping you weak and paranoid. You’ll need to check your food for sleeping charms when you eat, board up your doors and windows, and likely give up any weapons and equipment she gets her meddling hands on. Fighting her head-on isn’t the solution, unfortunately. She’s much too clever and attentive to let you face her in person. She’ll be frequently stalking you to learn your habits and Techniques like the back of her hand, perhaps even to convey them to your enemies.
>>98775497It does, you're just missing the forest for the trees.As an analogy, if I drive up to a place and ask if I can park there, and the guy says 'You can't park here while the store is open. You need to go.' the obvious implication is that the store is open.
>>98775518>I think that guy did get butt-blasted for itI remember that guy. He got butt-blasted in the multiplayer thread because he wanted to make 13 character builds to play with ideas and the other anon started cying that he was gonna dilute builds if he discovered all the cool combos.The shit with that is actually wjat inspired chimera anon to make his build if I remember correctly.
>>98775549I’m almost positive chimeralord predates the harem gimmick build.
>>98775523You saw the question. A neutral question that didn't say anything beyond LWR vs Paradox Point.You saw that there was no conversation before the question to "manipulate him" you saw him comparing LWR to endbringer's skin.You saw him saying Paradox Point does go through LWR because it goes through matter.And you keep saying you are right but the question was bad?
>>98775549Chimeralord was one of the builds done in the first few days, he was one of the originals.
>>98775552IDK, look at the archives I geuss. I'm just saying what I remember.
>>98775502After playing Dragonfall and Spirit Conscript, my first two builds in literal years, I realise I need to change a lot for Ranni's cyoa to try and make it more fun. Time to do yet another extensive rewrite..
>>98775547>>98775553I gave you a way to settle it from my point of view.
>>98775547Is he genuinely retarded?
>>98775562We got confirmation LWR loses to Paradox Point because paradox point goes through matter.It was settled.Why are you going all in in being wrong?
>>98775561Ranni is gross. Weird rotting corpse doll.
>>98775564I was trying to be nice before, but yes.
>>98775422Best is probably Tactics, Deceit, Mind Splitting and Vessel Transfer.
>>98775561>my first two builds in literal yearsfag ass leech kys
>>98775572It's not. Either ask him a question that touches on both sides of the argument like I proposed, or stop whining.
>>98775549Softie made chimeralord because he likes being a little wizard and wanted to make monstergirls. He came out long, long before the white lotus dude.
>>98775582How does that make him a leech? Making builds isn't contribution. Making CYOAs is contribution.
>>98775460Uoh doll cunny TToTT
>>98775584how can someone so unwise consider himself a wizard...
>>98775576I never saw someone so adamant on being obviously wrong. Logic was not enough, reading the cyoa was not enough, asking the author was not enough because "show me the question" like the question was loaded or something.Gets shown the question, it was a neutral question. "Show me before the question" like it was manipulation from before.Gets shown that the conversation before the question was hours before about dragon ball.And now asks to bother the author again to ask him the obvious thing, again.Might be the dumbest anon.>Either ask him a question that touches on both sides of the argument like I proposed, or stop whining."Would Living World Refolding stop Paradox Point?"Its a neutral question. Accept it. The author could have said "no" or "yes" and said no.Man up. Or enter the discord to pester the author yourself. Asking another person to embarass themselves asking a stupid question is the comfort choice. If you are so sure about your side, go there and ask it yourself. You got the discord link already
>>98775549I just checked. Chimeralord and haremanon came out within a day of each other, but on separate threads(chimeralord on cyoag and haremanon on mcyoag)They were unrelated, but they were both some of the first builds ever made.
>>98775573Funnily enough my first plan for a Spirit conscript build was to create doll bodies and stuff them full of Coalescence of the Desecrated Grave rotten flesh and fill it full of captured souls. Since the captured souls possessed their own aura and karma if I filled the doll with innocent people with good karma the doll could disguise itself as an extremely righteous person and drain aura from the souls inside the flesh to use in release techniques.
>>98775599Not listening to people baiting him and trolling doesn’t make him unwise.
>>98775561you made a spirit conscript build?
>>98775583>>98775606
>>98775612I'll post it sometime next week
>>98775613The question had multiple problems, just like I predicted and explicitly inb4d you in the previous thread over. If it wasn't an issue to ask your side of the question, then it shouldn't be an issue to ask mine as well.
>>98775608>Chimeralord was firstI was wrong then.
>>98775562How about you go fuck yourself? Seriously. I already did my part, I've got my answers. Why don't you just get off your own lazy fucking ass and do something your goddamn self instead of demanding other people spoonfeed you the most obvious shit and complaining when they don't do it exactly the way you want?
>>98774798depending on which alteration it is then you might just be able to replace it with the right technique
>>98775611he does listen to the trolls though, it's easy, you just act superficially friendly to him and he won't spot that you're trolling him, it's what half of his "admirers" are doing (the other half is just sexual harrassment)
>>98775606You've gotta stop engaging with someone who is clearly just trying to shitpost and upset you, man. This shit has taken up two entire threads when it could have easily been left at 'You're retarded'.
>>98775631You did "your part" for the sake of supporting your own point of view while not representing mine. Good job. I accept your concession.
>>98775637Name one quantifiable time this happened.
>>98775609Shaman saints.....
>>98775649every single thread he's mentionedevery and single are quantifiers
>>98775622These are things you said."Clearly not, because why would he say "if it's made of matter" in that case? What was the alternative to that if, and why didn't you post what his answer would have been in that case? Your lying and manipulative nature is plain to see.""Post the entire conversation so that I can confirm you didn't lead the answer with the questions yourself, or the conversation is over.""The ENTIRE conversation. You didn't even post the most important part, your own god damn question. What, did PCA just randomly start hallucinating our conversation unprompted? Lmao."Now that you got the entire conversation, and realized he didn't cut any part important, and that his question was neutral. You escape, yet again, from the truth.Reading these 3 messages of yours, now seeing the entire conversation, how does it look to you? Like a person that can't accept he was wrong.>The question had multiple problemsThe question was simple. Paradox Point vs LWR, does LWR stop paradox point?What is the problem?>If it wasn't an issue to ask your side of the questionThere is no "side". The question was neutral. Does LWR stop it or not? Nothing more, nothing less.>then it shouldn't be an issue to ask mine as well.Ask him yourself. Why do you command another anon to ask your stupid question? Go there and ask it yourself, show you are brave enough to look like a fool.Do you need the discord link again?
>>98775659There were multiple problems with the question, so I said multiple different things about it. The fact that you refuse to ask him my question tells me you aren't willing to be reasonable about this. You'd rather just shitpost here than clear things up.
>>98771661I think swapping Hellfire Debt out for Sealed Power and sadly downgrading Ninokata to allies so I can improve Investigation to Legend makes sense. I don't think it fits the character concept to not have Investigation Legend, but those changes are rough too.
>>98775667Again, do you need the discord link?The other anon already made the question that should have ended the debate. Paradox point does go through it.You want another question? You have the discord link. Do you want me to post it again for you?
Fuck it, I'm over this guy. He's retarded, we all know he's retarded, we all know how LWF really works now (though it really should've been obvious earlier) and he can seethe about it until the end of time for all I care.
>>98775609fuck it man I'm going to use the fairy star to just remove aura this shit is so fucking evil
>>98775658There’s like one guy who facetiously upscales him by sarcastically mentioning how good his techniques are
>>98775672I spent 2 hours yesterday trying for him to understand a concept as simple as volume...
>>98775673>Dies instantly because his wish isn't 100% pure of heart.
>>98775656Oh yeah, now that I think of it, exactly like thatI've been so absorbed in Elden Ring it's started affecting my subconscious without my awareness. crazy
>>98775678Removing evil is very pure.
>>98775678you're right... I should wish for the complete extinguishing of the world and all in it, that way no one will suffer from this material world again
>>98775677Something something don't play chess against pigeons
>>98775671I'm not going to use discord. The question the other anon posed was not representative of our argument.You can ask it if you want, sure. "Does living world refolding create matter, or is it an aura field?">>98775677While ignoring all arguments as to why it doesn't matter. It's not my fault you were being obstinately retarded.
So it turns out the magic history fag was righthttps://www.reddit.com/r/osp/comments/1ruqbxj/forbidden_catholic_wizardry/All the cool Catholics tried magic
>>98775609Based
>>98775690Arguing with the lwf retard almost made me miss you. Almost.
>>98775690>so it turns out some literal who (totally not me!) was right in some argument you don't care about>here's a fucking reddit thread for your troublethe dankest of shitposts
>>98775687>I'm not going to use discord.I accept your concession.>The question the other anon posed was not representative of our argument.It was. The whole argument was LWR vs Paradox Point. It creating matter or not was your argument for it to not go through. But it doesn't matter as we got the answer. LWR is matter, and Paradox point goes through.So go to discord or I accept your concession.
>>98775682>Removing evil is very pure.Pure what exactly?It's not purely good to remove something that does both good and evil.It's not pure evil to do something somewhat good.What are you pure in? Pride?
>>98775707In that case you wasted your time on something I already inb4d last thread. The conversation remains where it was yesterday. I accept your concession.
What's the distribution of demonic and righteous cultivator builds in SC?
>>98775637>>98775658Don't spoil the fun, baka
>>98775709It doesn't have to be pure good or pure bad the end of the wish.It has to be a pure wish.For example, wishing for the world to not end is not pure good neither. The world has bad parts, people and animals suffering. The world not ending does also allow those things to continue. Yet we know that kind of wish tends to be pure.So as long as the person making the wish 100% belives that it will do more good than harm. It should count
>>98775709>>98775682and narcissism, maybe some hubris toodon't you see? HIS version of good and evil are objective! it's everyone else who is impure!
>>98775718102% demonic with a 2% margin of error
>>98775715>Keeps whining about being too embarassed to ask his stupid question himselfHow old are you? 2 anons by now have deduced you are ESL. Maybe you are simply retarded and too young to accept mistakes.
>>987757181:99
>>98775721The cycle is never going to end anon. Suffering will continue regardless so it is a neutral act.
>>98775721>The world has bad partsjust making judgements like this is already impurewho the fuck do you think you are to make that claim as if it were divine truth?
>>98775722>don't you see? HIS version of good and evil are objective! it's everyone else who is impure!The fact the anon above you posted this unironically, pottery.
>>98775733Is suffering good? bad?
>>98775513You picked the best skill for that argument but it brings up another point. The skills aren't balanced against each other at all. No way is legendary athletics, at the same level as say legendary deceit from a talent and time perspective. But they are both 6 points. >>98775520Yea very good example there. Full on genius level education for a pittance compared to the lower level.
>>98775718Only alchemists even can be properly demonic in the xianxia sense. And not all of them are evil, even if the most often talked about ones certainly are.
>>98775721Amazing head canon anon. Try using your head next time.
Who's the more obvious samefag, matterjeet or softie?
>>98775751Matterjeet because softie doesn’t samefag.
>>98775741i don't know, because i'm not godlearn basic humility before attempting this again
>>98775721>Wronganon starting to pedantically argue what a "pure" wish isCan't make this shit up
>>98775755>his moral is based on godLol, lmao.
>>98775751softie, because he's dumber about it>>98775758in the figurative sense, i'm not religious
>>98775743>No way is legendary athletics, at the same level as say legendary deceit from a talent and time perspective.What makes it worse is that multiple skills makes it clear it's genuinely impossible to get them to legend level via training. For most people buying it at character creation is the Only chance to get them, because they're incredibly unlikely to find the aura technique that refined their un-aura boosted body to superhuman on their own.
>>98775753Yea softie never pretends to be anybody but himself but man does matterfag like to agree with themselves in their arguments
>>98775751Softie tries. Jeet does not try. Softie has an agenda. Jeet has no agenda. One is a lot more uncaring and chaotic than the other. I think they might even be schizophrenic.
>>98775743Athletics is way more useful in Youdu than on Earth. On Earth it's a hobby and occasionally entertainment. In Youdu it's life and death battle up to the nuclear bomb level.
>>98775753>not even 30 seconds
>>98775757what did we say about namefagging?
>>98775767People are just dumb it seems >>98775772
>>98775767Jeet talks to herself because she’s literally insane and has nothing else to do. Softie is a try hard faggot. The Jeet will randomly appear and then disappear in the same minute. Softie has a consistent streak of build making. Jeet has never once made a build. Softie likes cyoas. Jeet probably hates them.
>Jeet has never once made a buildIt would probably be cringe anyway
>>98775774It's funny because i've seen so many wronganons by now, got called it several times myself, got praised for btfo'ing wronganon a few times, etc.Wronganon is an egregore, not a person. It is a mask, not a face.
>>98775771That's not even getting into how skills boost techniques just as much as aura talents do.A G3 Core User with Legendary Athletics amd Legendary Martial Arts is going to fold master technique users into pretzels, before they get serious and start using core techniques.
>>98775751As the immediate stream of defensive replies have shown, softie.
>>98775762Yea it's beyond "training" at the legend level. I couldn't reach say legend investigation ever unless I take it now. But the master level can be and initiate sounds like a fucking summer camp which also really skews things.
>>98775789God forbid someone point out an obvious truth.
Softie doesn’t samefag you’re all just very fucking gay for him and see him literally everywhere.
>>98775762It's not genuinely impossible, it's just way harder than techniques. Probably takes decades of concerted effort or centuries of still genuine but sporadic use. This interestingly ties back to the proper engineering principles of that guy's maths before. Even in this sense, trainings take longer than techniques to learn.
>>98775803Stop you’ll start scaring anons with the truth. His haters can’t fathom that not everyone has the same homoerotic hate boner
>>98775751Matterjeet. This isn't because softie is a better samefag. It's because softie's stalkers pretend to samefag as him, AND he still samefags himself despite that. You can't ever be sure if it's actually softie samefagging or not.
>>98775795>and initiate sounds like a fucking summer camp which also really skews things.That exagerates it a bit. Initiate seems to be equal to 4 or so years of proffessional training in roughly all the skills. Nothing supernatural, but still very high compared to earth people.
>>98775811This is probably the honest truth kek
>>98775771Yea but athletics really CAN be trained after dropping in. Seriously a full say five year regime could get you there along with the right body which the CYOA gives. In fact it's one of the reasons many of my builds (like >>98772748) take the nutrition recovery disposition as it has huge implications for getting legendary gains.
>>98775811I cannot refute this.
>>98775826Opps tagged the cyoa instead of my build >>98772809, it also has that amazing Yokai bonus and of course G3 core
>>98775820>>98775795there's another consideration in this conversationif youdu gets blown up, most of its technique knowledge will be lost, if you still haven't learned that legendary technique it might never resurface againmeanwhile mortal world bloing up is first of all less probably and secondly mundane knowledge has way more consistent means of reappearingso taking techniques asap might be better even if it takes you ten times longer to mundanely train skills afterwards, because trainings are more likely to stay available
>>98775805>This interestingly ties back to the proper engineering principles of that guy's maths before. Even in this sense, trainings take longer than techniques to learn.I think your math is off in a different way than engineer anons.Engineer anon hyperfocused on legend skills to factor time, but looking at lower levels shows that it takes very different amounts of time per point.On averahe I'd put initiates skills at 1-2 years per point, master 2-4 years per point, and legend at 4+ per point. The training time seems to be exponential based on Tier rather than some hidden difference between skills and techniques.
>>98775820Depends on the skill.
>>98775811Truly he has mastered the art of samefagging
>>98775844I'm not looking at points, I'm looking at real world expertise and comparing it to the descriptions. You aren't gonna be legend level in anything after just a single decade or less.
>>98775518If I was going to do chimera builds nowadays I'd make them more templates and this one just took me a while to make. If I dedicated to it I could create a baby ensouled chimera soldier at a rate of about 1 per day, granted I'm pretty sure they'd have to grow. Below is an example I'd put of a chimera template build:>RaceChimera (Basically just gives inhumanity for free)>PotentialTalented>Benevolent AlterationsHard TrainingResilienceProdigyInhumanityAnimal Blood (Prey's Reflex)>Malignant AlterationsMemory Tampering>Aura SystemDeep Specialist>Recovery DispositionNutrition>Aura AffinitiesCore G3Phase G2Flow G0Alchemy G0>Aura Pool20>TrainingMartial Arts - MasterWeaponry - LegendAcrobatics - LegendAthletics - LegendInvestigation - Master>Basic Release TechniquesSense AuraBody EnhancementAura CloakInitiate Status—Resolute CenterInitiate Status—Oscillating MotionSense Enhancement>Great Release TechniquesWeapon Art—Guillotine ThundercloudSeven Immortalities of WukongI tried to be pretty conservative with the alterations, I don't think I could just give out limitless meridians to just any chimera construct, and something like Heavenly Instrument seems kind of ridiculous/weird to give to a chimera. Memory tampering is basically to show that they were created with soul coagulation and don't have a past beyond being born and raised by me. And for techniques, I of course need to factor in what could actually reasonably be taught to a chimera, granted giving them prodigy along with super-human and strong custom tailored souls would benefit them greatly.Specifically build wise as well, I had the idea to make a single overpowered-limitless meridians type chimera as basically my golden child magnum opus type thing that was in the process of growing to adulthood and learning, and was going to use Faputa for the image.
>>98775844>The training time seems to be exponential based on Tier rather than some hidden difference between skills and techniques.It seems to apply to techniques as well which is what started the conversation. Initiate statuses are slightly less than 50% of the points of a legendary status but I highly doubt the training differential would be double. Therefore most builds don't bother with basic techniques that aren't critical.
>>98775848>after just a single decade or less.Anon, the minimum per point time in my calculations for legend is 4 years per point. The cheapest legend skill is 6 points.24 years minimum for the fasyest legend tiers is not quick. Over 20 years of proffessional training is definitely legend worthy.
>>98775534>>98775544Baba Olga... my beloved.I could have done without Jackbones and instead got her in the cyoa.
>>98775848Yea it's the qualitative descriptions that are behind this discussion. You are a full on Einstein with legendary scholarship or every version of Sherlock Holmes put together with legendary investigation.
>>98775851I read deep wrong btw, should be 25 aura
>>98775844>>98775854>Legendary techniques take 60 years to a full Century to trainHoly fuck. Prodigy is the best Alteration, bar none.
>>98775870He's wrong anon, many of the companions have legendary techniques in their 20s among other techniques.
>>98775856I'd say that's not enough, the true IRL grandmasters are all people in their 60s or higher.
>>98775870Along with limitless meridians to be a full prodigy in every affinity, and sacred fountain as aura regen is a major bottleneck in training.
>>98775874Tell a lie 1000 times and it will become true. He is really trying to do that
>>98775883yeah he's trying to samefag his proper engineering principles into the collective unconsciousness of the general
>>98775879>true IRL grandmasters are all people in their 60s or higherSometimes but looking at history the best were often pretty young and were just better than everyone naturally.
>>98775870>>98775874How the fuck do we get a balance between these two extremes?If anon A>>98775870 is right, then the npc companions are mathmatically impossible.If anon B>>98775874 is right, potentialman builds become defacto the best builds other than haremgoon builds
>>98775894>potentialman builds become defacto the best buildsThey always were, they're just boring.
I've had enough. I'm seriously putting my foot down.
>>98775898sadly the attempt to make legendary techniques take 100 years each would be a good counter to them, but it's just not true
>>98775894>If anon B>>98775874 is right, potentialman builds become defacto the best builds My man, potentialman builds always had the most potential, it says it in the name.
>>98775789A hit dog will holler
This is why you need to take the overpowered pill. You aren't even that overpowered if you take all the potential options. You're not really any stronger than a starting talented build that didn't potentialfag.Just take overpowered and be both at the same time.
>>98775914Anon, it's very easy to take all the legendary status techniques and be a potentialman alteration build on talented difficulty. You start out strong enough to crush most of the 0.1% of the city between and are potentialmaxxed to quickly train all the new techniques you want.
>>9877592460 points of techniques and potentialfaggotry on talented???
>>98775924No harem of 27-30 waifus then.
>>98775929We must all make sacrifices anon.
>>98775894It's always been that way anon which is why I said this >>98775340. ANY number would either validate potential maxers taking nothing or break the setting itself as fundamentally mortals wouldn't ever be able to get anywhere. This is part of why the setting feels a bit like a Cultivation setting even though it isn't. The mortal power players ought to be centuries old but instead we have a bunch of Very young looking girls that are crazy powerful.
>>98775926Grab eccentric paired with magmatic as a benevolent and trouble magnet as your malevolent. You now have 65 points total.
>>98775851So you think you could mass-produce these things is that what you're saying?
>>98775938they aren't the mortal power players though, they're strong but they're a tier or two below the true mortal power players, who are themselves a tier or two below the great spirits
>>98775898>They always were, they're just boringThis. The build I would actually make isn't worth posting.
>>98775941Just the aura system, meridians, and affinities will take up 25 of those. Where else are you getting points from?
>>98775948you just gotta make the best of the stuff you get from overpowered then, there's a lot of interesting stuff you can do with 3 basic and 3 great techniques>i wouldn't take overpowered if this was for realshut the fuck up, yes you would
>>98775953Hmmm, so this is why I failed math class...
>>98775932There are sacrifices and SACRIFICES. Those are SACRIFICES
>>98775945Teraba owns the capital area anon, but I wasn't saying the companions are the top mortal dogs anyway. How many points of Flow techniques do you think the old Senguru guy knows? Way more than even a 90 year old guy spending a lifetime studying it could possibly know if techniques really take as long as we are saying.
>>98775944To an extent yea, but I also have to feed, house, raise and train them, but making 'templates' of chimeras really good at different things is the easiest way to do so.
>>98775966well there's always the possibility that the only aura users who are powerful are also the ones who lucked into prodigy and sacred fountain and vast aura systems and stuff like that, the others get old and die before getting far
>>98775956Even on overpowered my build would focus on the future. Loading up on say legendary trainings would be my go-to. Even if I did pick techniques I would gorge myself on legendaries on plan to learn the basics later.>I wouldn't take overpowered if this was for realOf course I would if I actually got to choose that, but I have always felt our soul simply is what it is and I doubt my soul is that good.
>>98775966>Teraba owns the capital area anonShe is strong>How many points of Flow techniques do you think the old Senguru guy knows?I would expect the leader of the Flow cult, an old one at that, to know several conductions of all 3 types of techniques, and techniques to mix them. Even more when he is close to the legend status.>Way more than even a 90 year old guy spending a lifetime studying it could possibly know if techniques really take as long as we are saying.Talent + spending all his time training. The guy is explictly a bad leader because he just goes to do his own thing in meditiation.
>>98775971>>98775966This does sort of pull the timeframes together. If the only mortals who even can make it to the top of Youdu have stacked learning speed boosters, then the old Senguru with 50 points of only flow techniques not counting all his other stuff makes sense.
>>98775971I.E they were born with the potential maxer build
>>98775966>How many points of Flow techniques do you think the old Senguru guy knows?The lore doc makes it clear he definitely has flow legend status already from how heavy the hints were. He also probably has special series: expansion and nature acquiesence, but conduction modes and states he knows are anyone's geuss.
>>98775978i think of potentialfaggotry as just unlocking all possibilities, without a need to race to the top in an optimal manner, because there aren't any other potentialfaggots of the same sort around in singleplayer
>>98775984>stacked learning speed boostersThe only conformed learning speed boosters are the Prodigy alteration and Aura Burst event, the rrst are headcanon.Given how the aura burst is a myth until we arrive...
>>98775984Except most of the other leaders are much younger. The Senguru guy is the best case scenario as far as age and power level. Either way you are also admitting that they need all the important boosts to even have a chance.
>>98775994>one aura regen thing makes learning techniques faste, but if you think this other aura regen thing makes it faster that's just headcanonAura regeneration speeds up the process of learning techniques.>Given how the aura burst is a myth until we arrive...Not quite a myth, and it doesn't really matter, it's something people would simply understand the moment they tried to learn their first technique, more aura makes it go faster.
>>98775984This is WOG>I'd say basics probably do not take a full year if you already know a Technique that's in the same ballpark as the one you want to learn.So basics do not even take a full year if you already know a basic technique. Plus prodigy not even 6 months. Plus more training boosters I am not going to mention.Difference between basic, high level techniques and legendaries? Who knows. But this proves getting basics techniques is not that long, so there is no reason to think that you would take decades to learn a legendary technique if you have a teacher, you are disciplined and you are talented yourself. And this is proven by companions in their 20s with legendaries.The problem of techniques is mainly the information. If you dont know anyone or anything to explain it to you, good luck.And of course, legendary statuses being incredibly hard to obtain with just training.
>>98775994G3s aren't head cannon and the Aura burst confirms aura itself is a limiting factor so obviously faster aura regen will result in faster training. Also minor thing but the "fast learner" alteration improves mundane training time.
>>98776000Checked and that isn't surprising since Noriko is literally a tourist
>>98775995Yeah, so assume they all have them.>>98776000That's not incompatible with the "basic techniques take years" though, it's a qualifier that it goes faster afterward. I think "basics" here was intended in the classic way, not the basic technique way. If you already know the basics of conduction by having one conduction, your future conduction techniques will be easier to learn. It doesn't literally mean you need a basic technique and then learning others will be easier.There's still enough vagueness to play around with the high tier techniques and push them into the brackets they need to be for this to work out.
>>98775986>The lore doc makes it clear he definitely has flow legend status already from how heavy the hints were.He's just getting to that point, but doing so boosts his senses immensely.
>>98776000>The problem of techniques is mainly the information. If you dont know anyone or anything to explain it to you, good luck.nah, non-secret techniques are said to be openly available, almost nobody can actually learn them so it would be nonsense for the institute and other factions to keep them from you unless it's specifically a strategic secret technique or problematic in some other way
>>98776015Which I will also say makes EWA's mental boosts look pretty fucking ridiculous.
>>98776024all four of them are ridiculous, going out and stealing godzilla's power overnight, dodging everything automatically if it can't hit you in mirror world simultaneously, doing a ritual worship session where you regen aura a thousand times faster than normal, etc.
>>98776018There must be openly available techniques, but the stronger they get they should be more protected by other people.The scale clan literally built its "economy" on guarding technique's information and getting paid with them
>>98776018Which is the other reason people only choose legendaries. Even if basics, greats, and legendaries where perfectly balanced point wise, legendaries are locked up in secret vaults, while their is literally a college teaching the normal stuff.
>>98776024>makes EWA's mental boosts look pretty fucking ridiculous.Anon, what part of Super-Computer did you not understand? Predictive modelling of weather and political events are just scratching the surface...
>>98776029no yeah, I'm just saying it puts it into perspective that he does all that and doesn't even have the full thing yet.
>>98776030sure, but you're only gonna worry about that if you take no factions (or your own sect with secrets), you also stubbornly refuse to join one after the fact, and you also didn't take a useful combo like institute apprentice + technique collection to make this your entire job while inside and institution that hoards techniquesat that point, if you really really tried to make technique knowledge hard to find, you reasonably only get basic techniques and some smaller amount of great techniques, and have to struggle for the rest
>>98776029>doing a ritual worship session where you regen aura a thousand times faster than normalI'm pretty sure that get dwarfed by being able to go One-Wing-Angel sephiroth and gain infinite fast healing at no aura cost.
>>98776038>Computerthat part.
>>98776029Best Legend Status for potential maxing?
>>98776048>I'm pretty sure that get dwarfed by being able to go One-Wing-Angel sephiroth and gain infinite fast healing at no aura cost.what? when?
>>98776038>>98776051it is a bit figurative if you ask me, i think the thing that would be most conspicuously absent is reflex speed, you aren't a phase user with just that
>>98776057alchemy because of the extreme aura regen, you just gotta also be strong enough to fight off the exorcists who won't appreciate you suddenly being a god
>>98776057Universal sovereign. You can use unlimited mind splitting to train multiple techniques at one(one of the example companions did this with 3 clones, you have infinity clones), you can use it with lifegiving immolation to sell life ectention for money and techniques, etc.It just has so much combo potential it's unreal.
>>98776075but if you die you become a spirit and you have spirit weaknesses
>>98776060>what? when?Universal Sovereign lets ypu use yourself as an ingredient in summon fusion.One of the summon options is an angel.Universal Sovereign's devotion mechanic buffs summons and lets you heal them for no aura cost.Do. The. Math.
>>98776081If you die without it, you just die.
>>98776075>You can use unlimited mind splitting to train multiple techniques at oneyou have only one aura system, i really doubt you can train with more than at most two or three bodies as long as they're really different techniques, and even that's a generous guess>(one of the example companions did this with 3 clones, you have infinity clones)no she didn't, she was learning non-technique knowledge that way, which is way more reasonable
>>98776081You have spirit weaknesses before you die because you're a spirit, you just don't lose your aura system.
>>98776081If you die without it then you're fuckedAt least spirits can work around their weaknessesDying without Universal Sovereign is worse than getting spirit weaknessesUnless you figure out a technique to keep your memories and aura system + alterations(pretty sure mortal souls reincarnate but it's been a while since I read that)
>>98776093but with other legend statuses you could survive and not die as you are stronger
>>98776081This is the highest peak of the jobber mentality in Spirit Conscript. It has been measured. None of the other peaks are as tall.
>>98776086I see, thanks anon. Would I be a pretty kind of angel like Sephirot or ugly one?
>>98776100If you're relying on >just don't die Sovereign can do that to, with a failsafe for if you do die
>>98776075>>98776086The funniest part about all the legend statuses is that none of them are actually all that OP compared to other legendary techniques, or even some master techniques. Where they really shine is as amplifiers for lower tier techniques in their same category, buffing the shit out of otherwise much more limited powers.
>>98776096You dont have the weaknesses before dying.Before dying you are just the best of both worlds. No weakness.
>>98776108except for waning lunar eonthat one buffs everything everywhere and then goes out to find its mother to buff her a bit too
>>98776108Vortex in Flow is stronger than its flow legend status. But Flow legend status buff the fuck out of conductions. It makes sense
>>98776103>Would I be a pretty kind of angel like Sephirot or ugly one?Depends which kind you summon. If you're worried, you can summon a succubus or incubus to add to your fusion and ensure you're at maximum sexy while transformed.
>>98776096 is incorrect. >>98776110 is correct.Spirit weaknesses come once you have a spirit aura system, not before. You still have a human aura system? No spirit weaknesses.
>>98776110You have weaknesses, silvered and other stuch weapons affect you and you're weak to ceremony stuff. You are a spirit explicitly. You're basically arguing the power doesn't work like it says it does.
>>98776122>>98776120
>>98776057US, If nothing else it gives you literally infinite time to train. Then EWA for the supercomputer brain, CSI for unlimited STR/DEF/RGN stealing and finally WLA.
>>98776110Corefags have a desperate need to nerf it to keep alchemy from being the best affinity Sad to see an example of talm poppy syndrome in our own cyoag
>>98776128You're a spirit, end of story anon. You have spirit weaknesses except for one it says you don't get until later.
>>98776131*WLE
>>98776133I'm usually arguing the core side and will plainly say that US doesn't give any spirit weaknesses.>>98776135Wrong. Use your brain.
>>98776112True, Waning Lunar Eon's main issie is that it's devotion is as much a drawback as it is benefitial(how are you gonna perform handsigns if your hands are in the mirror world?), unless you pick up the mirror world relate phase techniques. With the right sub-techniques, WLE turns you into Obito from Naruto.
>>98776140it generally doesn't matter, you have it up and maybe another devotion or two and that's enough for whatever
>>98776138There's unironically no brain needed, it says you're a spirit plain as day.Are universal sovereigniggas really so dumb they will blatantly lie about their own ability?
>>98776138>and will plainly say that US doesn't give any spirit weaknesses.'Merica!
>>98776133I am a corechad fan, but I admit universal sovereign its a great deal, all legend statuses are.>>98776122Nowhere mentioned, unlike with demon seed.If in your human-spirit state before your first death, you had spirit weaknesses, it would be mentioned. In fact, the technique goes out of its way to list what you get before dying, the aura recovering method of spirits, but also it makes it clear you still got yours.You get both recoveries, its the best of both worlds. Nowhere its mentioned you get any of their weakness.Obviously after dying you become full spirit.
>>98776147>There's unironically no brain neededLmao. This is your main problem in life.
>>98776140Why wouldn’t you just go entirely into the mirror world and figure things out after? I don’t think there will ever be a case where you phase out selective parts of you
If going universal sovereign does give spirit weaknesses it might be a nice opportunity to take the corrupt pool along with Demon Seed
Okay but let’s be honest why wouldn’t spirit sovereign give you the drawbacks all spirits suffer? You are on all accounts a spirit so ceremony and silvered would work.
>>98772748Also some more WOG: Twisted Flesh Conduction does work on people/animals as long as they aren't under someone else's aura.Signature Technique does NOT make techniques cheaper (It CAN however make devotions more efficient, so stuff like Unstoppable Force can get the same result for less aura but it won't make Divine Hand not cost 12).
>>98776152>>98776153>universal retards are arguing the ability that turns you into a spirit doean't actually turn you into a spiritEow alchemylets really are thr bad faith retards of SC if they're choosing to blatantly headcanon their own ability works differently than it says it does.
>>98776158It doesn't. That would be mentioned. Especially since there's already a solid logic to explain what actually happens - you get spirit weaknesses after you fully become a spirit, not while you're still mortal and only have the word spirit in your wallet so you can show it at the border station between reincarnation and the spirit womb.
>>98776157>I don’t think there will ever be a case where you phase out selective parts of youthats how wle works
>>98776171Your argument is that you don't need a brain. Use your brain and check if that's true.
>>98776176It can work that way but it doesn’t have to. Are you alleging you can’t entirely disappear into the mirror realm?
>>98776140>(how are you gonna perform handsigns if your hands are in the mirror world?That only happens if you'd want it to, and if you would then the alternative is likely losing those hands anyway.
for fucks sake you guys are annoying, there's always somethingsomeone with discord please go ask PCA if the intent was to get spirit weaknesses while you're still in your mortal body or if you only get them after
>>98776171Majushins love their seven proxies, nothing new
>>98776171Tell me, if we are spirits, why do we have our flesh bodies and can regenerate aura normally like mortals.Wouldn't that prove we are not spirits in the conventional sense? if thats true, its weakness being carried over or not are of course, a thing to discuss. But as the technique didn't mention them, and other choices in the cyoa do mention them (demon seed) wouldn't that prove the intention of the technique is clear.Also, it would be weird for any legend status to offer a drawback in itself. No other technique, not only of the legend statuses, but of any technique in general has a drawback as a passive effect.
It would be weird if the technique i argue is the strongest had a downside
>>98776189Thanks to softie:>I would say yes on the basis that a spirit is still a spirit in if it's put into a human body>A-la golden centennial avatar
>>98776184Wle its simply a passive defense that kamuis your parts into the mirror world as they are going to be hit. If full body is hit, you go fully into the mirror world.
Would you look at that, common sense won out and wronganon was wrong. Again.
>>98776192No, my stupid little one-word gotcha is more important than the obvious intent of the technique's description! You can't do anything against it because that's what it says if you read with zero thought!
>>98776195Also:>Unless there's some good reason it should be the inverse that I can't remember after two years and 280 pages of text>If some other precedent exists, feel free to remind me
>>98776197Considering how expensive each proc is I think you’re better off manually activating it and leaving the panic button for full body
>>98776205It does. You have a mortal aura system until you go through the spirit womb. This is the problem with this stupid telephone game, whoever asks their question their way influences what the answer is. Please ask him about this precedent.
>>98776207>Considering how expensive each proc is I think you’re better off manually activating it and leaving the panic button for full bodybut that is the thing, its passive and automatic. If you activate the devotion effect of wle, your body gets transported if its going to need it to dodge
>>98776140>With the right sub-techniques,There sre only 2 sub-techniques that stack that way: flicker frame, which lets you briefly enter the mirror world and come back, and Mirror World Invetsion, which letd you physically interact with the real world even when fully in the mirror world.Together they're op as fuck though.
>>98776209That's not a precedent, and he already answered you with the original answer.
You know you guys can just go to discord yourself right?
>>98776216That is a precedent for things working in the mortal way? Duhh. >no I snuck in my way of asking so now I'm right xDFuck off reta5rd.
gravid with woglets
>>98776213I guess the best strategy is to always ensure you’re gonna get hit somewhere other than your hands/arms so you phase out partially to take the hit while you trade blows and kill the opponent
>>98776218Why would anyone give a fuck about discord?
>>98776222>a spirit is still a spirit even in a mortal bodyI accept your concession, you lost wronganon.
>>98776216Hey dark sovereign do you like the immortal whale in shadowverse? A friend of mine liked to spam it. Or you werent there for that rotation?
>>98776230you don't need to strategize that, your technique itself will automatically move you out of the way
The spirit aura issue is completely solved with Curse of the Burning Mayfly btw. The real issue is figuring out how to speed up the Spirit womb.
>Demon seed becomes free if you pick Universal SovereignOh, no, free points.
>>98776232He told you to mention any other precedents, which clearly do exist as far as anyone in the conversation is concerned, whether you agree they're actual precedents or not yourself. You didn't, so the question is unresolved for the purposes of our conversation. You wasted your time.
>>98776239Only if you're evil, since only evil spirits get those weaknesses.
>>98776239You'd still get the evil urges
>>98776243Then... what is even the weakness of spirits you were all talking about? Silver?
>>98776243>>98776244I think that's also something he gets "for free"
>>98776235you’re not wrong, but you should strategize a little because you only have so much aura. If the proc were free, it would be a different story.
>>98776246cock
>>98776241Question is answered, you can just lie and not like the answer, but every time you try to lie I Ill just repost the WOG that is obvious to anyone with a brain.
There are limits to what even patient men can tolerate.
>>98776248the procs are free
>>98776251Yes, my cock controls me but it also did as a human.So genuinely, if you are normal guy or spirit, not evil, what is your weakness beyond silver?
>>98776246Mostly the weapon enchantments and stuff that are more potent against spirits, and being susceptible to banishment from ceremony.
>>98776255That's not a man, that's a frog.
>>98776254The question wasn't answered since you ignored the followup. Sorry. You're both wrong and dishonest.>>98776246Specific anti-spirit effects.
>>98776257You’re not paying 10 aura every time you disappear? Holy shit this is so much better than I thought.
>>98776259>>98776251
>wronganon throws a hissy fit again after being certifiably proven wrongSame as it ever was
>>98776266no, you technically don't, but we were talking about the procs for your hands and shit, those don't cost anythingmoving into mirror world also doesn't cost anything until you drop dissipation, but that's a different matter
>>98776199>none of the wronganon posting was me btw
>>98776264>>98776261Eh, thats not too bad then.They also have to know your soul is a spirit.If its something you can just sense, then the majushin will crown you leader once they find out.
>>98776277Don't be wrong and ypu wont get called wronganon.
>>98776277No i've called you wronganon before, because you are wrong, anon.
>>98776272So the cost is when you return from the mirror world and partial phases are free? I’m not entirely sure I follow.
>>98776271Watch out before he complains that you dared name him.
>>98776284Chainsawman...
To be fair anyone whose not trying to play in bad faith and ignore the obvious knew you had spirit weaknesses in US.
>>98776280It's also not settled since PCA himself wasn't sure, and the main reason why this argument even exists in the first place was held back from him when he specifically asked for it. Why? So someone here can win an argument of course.
>>98776293It's settled because PCA gave you the answer, you just don't like the answer. No other precedent exists outside of universal sovereign, and the question of universal sovereign was answered.You lost, wronganon.
You continue to vex me, anon.
>>98776285Devote 10 aura and you can shift into the mirror world to avoid stuff as much as you want, but if you're forced to 100% shift or be destroyed you're stuck there until you end devotion.
>>98776300Anon, the only thing you settled was that you're doing this in bad faith yourself. If you think this can convince me you're double retarded.
>>98776292Naw it needed to be clarified Imo. People have always accused the losers of how obvious things were but on this cyoa in particular a lot of legitimate questions have been asked as it really is a mechanically complex setting.
>>98776302Wow okay yeah I was happy paying 10 for every shift so I’m ecstatic about LWE now… Thanks anon!
>>98776302>>98776307stuck there isn't really a bad thing, since you get to just go home in mirror world
>>98776301Been playing with a Wukong shapeshifter build so lol
>>98776305I don't need to convince a stupid person, I have undeniable proof of you lying in bad faith for those you try to lie too.>>98776306That's fair for a lot of things but not "Are you a spirit in the power that tells you you're a spirit?"
>>98776300Again with the fucking wronganon.We were doing it so good earlier, why the fuck do you start doing it again?It was better when we forgot about this namefagging.
>>98776307Well that was mostly another anon helping you but np.
>>98776310Some other anon inconveniently denied your proof here >>98776205Oh no!
>>98776317Question was answered, no other precedent exists outside of universal sovereign as said.
>>98775150Just wanted to say I appreciate the thoughts anon. That's a good way to put it. The archetype and the mechanical implementation don't match as well as they should.
>>98776308Yeah you're still good.
>>98776310>That's fair for a lot of things but not "Are you a spirit in the power that tells you you're a spirit?"the technique went out of its way to remove the weakness of not recovering aura and also not mentioning the weakness of spirits, despite it doing it with demon seed.I was wrong, but its dumb to pretend there was no reasonable doubt.Having said this, do you all think people can sense your soul is a spirit or not?
>>98776281>>98776284Strange, because I havent made a single post about SC. I'm just laughing because you just outed yourself and you're still doubling down.
>>98776317To be clear I just added that out of principle.
>>98776319There is a precedent, you just don't want to tell him about it even when he asked you for it because you think it might prove you wrong :^)You are doing this in bad faith. If you cared about the truth you'd just ask. But you don't. You only care about arguments, therefore your opinions are worthless.
>>98776323>Having said this, do you all think people can sense your soul is a spirit or not?Yes, but in the same way as whether or not you can detect a spirit possessing someone/a vessel. So maybe no normally without special items like the purification bell? I don't remember if you can just detect if a vessel is possessed or not desu.
>>98776277He's not very smart
>>98776335He's smarter than wronganon at least.
you retards are aware you can turn off your own passives right? like, if you think your status as a spirit is a problem, just stop being a spiritway back in the day, pca already said that infinite inertial hitting universal sovereign means you stop being slated to go to the spirit womb for 30 secondsjust do the same thing to yourself if you think being a spirit is a bad deal, you can turn it back on five minutes later
>>98776307Note: WLE on it's own doesn't let things shift back until you end the 10 devotion. If you get shot and a portion of you toro is in the mirror world, you have to end devotion to get it back.However, if you also have Flicker Frake, you can devote from 1 to 5 more aura on top of your base 10 so that dodging quickly phases things into the mirror world and back again.If you also know Mirror World Inversion, you can physically affect things in the real world from the mirror world. This costs nothing and is just a passive from knowing MWI.
>>98776337>like, if you think your status as a spirit is a problem, just stop being a spiritMe instantly sending a US to hell because I turned off his spirit shit so his soul passed on.
>>98776334Hmmm, now I am realizing, can you be an exorcist an a spirit at the same time?Because things like purification bell, ceremony's practices to repel spirits, prayer drum etc... seems to hurt spirits without distinction.
>>98776341that also doesn't work according to pca, it turns back on even after you're dead so you still get to go to the spirit womb even if you die as a mortal because of infinite inertia
>>98776342Probably, just be careful not to hit yourself with your own anti-spirit stuff. It's just like wielding normal weapons isn't it?
>>98776342The K triplets are exorcists and use spirits so maybe?
>>98776336So two retards fighting
>>98776342that's like saying if you can use a sword without cutting yourself, of course you can, you're the one aiming it
>>98776348Can't go to the spirit womb if you're already stuck in hell for 14 kalpas because you raped and ate all those kids for spirit aura rituals.
>>98776352That's every debate here between anyone.
>>98776356well i'm relaying what PCA said in a conversation more than a year ago, feel free to disagree with it
I'm saying that if you're already dead and in hell when your spirit form turns back on I don't think their going to let you back out with terrible karma even as a spirit.
>>98776337That sounds like it resolves>>98776342At the end of the day, you just want universal sovereign for the lifespan and fusion with spirits. The first can wait during battles and the second one makes you a spirit anyways.>>98776349>>98776350Yeah, probably doable but if you can deactivate it I don't see any problem with it.Maybe you can even fool the majushin so they don't crown you leader
>>98776199>>98776277Fucking kek
turning off universal sovereign is the most retarded shit I've ever heard. "Yea I just stop being a spirit bwo"Come on, you can bait better than that.
>>98776372if infinite inertia can do it, then so can you
>>98776375FUCK YOU
>>98776337>you retards are aware you can turn off your own passives right?Is this canon?
>>98776277>>98776371I've never said I've never called him wronganon, so I'm confused why this is even in contention. Still the obviously bad faith anon was btfo'd and the obvious answer was obvious, you're welcome.
Why is he so mad about Universal Sovereign?
>>98776377yes, even a passive is something you're doing, it's just internal meridian stuff, if you know how to start it you know how to pause or stop it
>>98776378See >>98776330
>>98776379Anon thought he was immune to all anti-spirit things despite being a spirit.
>>98776377No? Theyre carved in your meridians.
>>98776385There is no precedent outside of universal sovereign.
>>98776378Yeah, yeah, but what type of shadowverse deck you got?
>>98776387by that logic, infinite inertia couldn't stop them, because it works "as if you had ended the technique yourself"
>>98776385There's nothing else that turns you into a spirit little wronganon.
>>98776395I see you're still afraid to ask :^)
Should we post new bread early to stop the spirit conscript autism? Maybe start the next one with jrpg traitor or kill the heavens for different autism.
This is the same guy who was wrong about LWF, right?
>>98776398I accept your concession.
>>98776402It would just get spirit conscripted
>>98776391I mostly played abyss forever, but now that burnite is the battlepass leader I've been really enjoying dragon.
>>98776404I accept that you're doing this in bad faith.
>>98776402I will post spirit conscript just to spite you.
>>98776410I accept that you're assmad about being wrong against softie again.
>>98776402how exactly would that stop anything
>>98776378Just lol. Log off and take nap lil bro.
>>98776407I see, I was a bloodcraft chad back when it existed. Good times...I found dragon to be fun but not that good compared to the metal when I played, Portalcraft
>>98776394As if is analogic. Descriptions mention when something is toggleable always.
Has anyone ever actually used Special Techniqie and Signature Technique to fully complete the Phase, Flow, or Core legend status into proper immortality techniques like Universal Sovereign?
>>98776418Why? Even if I was gone anons would still call me the mastermind behind all the evils of the thread and say I'm samefagging.>>98776419Paladin was a bloodcraft guy as well, and he hates abyss now. He's mostly been playing dragon, and now i'm pretty much doing the same, just playing dragon/sword/forest.
>>98776423Not that I'm aware of anon
>>98776421no, i don't think both are compatible, and one of them was given by pca, so it rules out the other one, passives are something you can toggle if you want tothe more common sense ruling is that you are the one controlling your own aura system anyway, so assuming you're forced to keep passives up when you don't want to makes very little sense to me
>>98776424It's literally just one anon that obsesses over you. He does the same song and dance every time.
>>98776424Wronganon is just mad he lost another argument and taking it out on you.
>>98776391Played forestcraft solely because the fairies were cute
>>98776424have you considered not being an attention whore? the guys who keep shitposting >>98776439 around you wouldn't even be able to tell who you are in that case
>>98776445>attention whoreSorry anon I know you want more attention than me. I can't help it if you shitpost about me for just posting in the thread.
>>98776451>I know you want more attention than mei don't want to see your retarded drama every thread>I can't help it if you shitpost about me for just posting in the thread.but you can help get the morons buzzing on you like flies on a carcass to fuck off
>>98776433The alternative is impermanence being a lightswitch rather than infinite inertia being the ultimate rule breaker it is intended as
>>98776444The fact that krule never got a leader position and all of forests old favorite characters got NTR'd to other crafts really makes it hard to want to play forest anymore.
>>98776456no, because the author shrugged and said it still turns back on after you're dead, so there's no issue, you don't actually go to reincarnation as a universal sovereign even if you kept your passive off
>>98776391>>98776407>>98776419>>98776424>>98776444Anons take your convo to /v/ if you wanna talk about videogames.
>>98776455>i don't want to see your retarded drama every threadDon't talk about me then. Sounds like a you problem.
>>98776468i never talk about you, i'm only talking to you now
>>98776470Good.
>>98776471so you'll just keep shitting up every thread with your retarded drama, wonderfuli hope you get a rangeban already
>>98776465One or two messages its not bad, it refreshes anons's mind. Now I know a little more of some of you
>>98776472You already broke what you said and tried to start drama.
>>98776479how? by asking you to stop the drama?
>>98776484>>98776472I can't stop the daily drama you retards start over nothing all the time any more than you can.
I'm putting an end to this myself.
>>98776487The one anon says you're basically the prime evil so of course you can.
>>98776487yes you can, just stop whoring for attention this much, do you really think you're the center of a hurricane of shitposting every single day without any input of your own? like it just randomly happens for absolutely no reason?
>>98776492>just stop whoring for attention this muchYou first>do you really think you're the center of a hurricane of shitposting every single day without any input of your ownYes that is the case 90% of the time.>>98776489>t. shapeshifter martial artist
How aee there already 800 posts? Why are more than half of them a single autism deathmatch?
>>98776500>You firstpoint out where the shitposting about me is happening and we'll see if i have any way to do that>Yes that is the case 90% of the time.and why are you the only one it happens to if you don't do anything to attract it?
>>98776502Because one of the posters is either tok or matterjeet.
>>98776505>and why are you the only one it happens to if you don't do anything to attract itLiterally any namefag gets shitposted at retard.
>>98776513like for example?
>>98776505>point out where the shitposting about me is happening and we'll see if i have any way to do thatRead the reply chain, in fact you just got posted at.>and why are you the only one it happens to if you don't do anything to attract it?Anons are bored or mad, and i'm not the only one.
Junko's breasts... my beloveds
>>98776517Are you just a newfag? Asciface, wodan, tok, italics, aromage, gil, etcI could go on forever.
>>98776518>Read the reply chain, in fact you just got posted at.getting posted at is normal replying>Anons are bored or mad, and i'm not the only one.who else?
>>98776528>getting posted at is normal replyingOk then stop crying.>who else?Literally everyone else.
>Why can't I toggle off obtaining true enlightenment, escaping the cycle of rebirth and attaining heaven. [sic] transcending the mortal soul and becoming a spirit?God alchemists are so whiny
>>98776528>who else?>>98776526
>>98776526who the fuck is asciface?i've heard of wodan like three times, it can't be that bad when i've heard of softie a million times>gillmao>tok, italics, aromageauthors>>98776533are you just pretending to be retarded? literally everyone else except maybe tok don't attract drama, because the two of you are attention whores, and i have no idea when tok posted last
>>98776534Didn't pca answer to this? If someone searches this, its as good as proven one side or another
>>98776540Newfag actually outed himself, wow.
>>98776540>are you just pretending to be retardedNo I just am retarded.>literally everyone else except maybe tok don't attract dramaLol, lmao.
>>98776541he did, it was a long time ago though, good luck finding itit can be turned off, and if you die that way it still counts as if it was on>>98776546i've been here since the start of the general kiddo, i just don't pay attention to the drama until it gets especially bad, and the softie shit is getting worse than matterfag at this point>>98776551not in the same quantities
>>98776553>i've been here since the start of the general kiddoahahahahahahahahahahaha
He doesn’t even know asciface kek
>>98776553Oh this is the wronganon guy that posts 24/7 yet acts like a newfag and gets btfo'd in SC every time. Get a life.
I need a drink.
>>98776562and as far as wronganon goes, i think you just use it on anyone you don't like, since this is the third time in a week someone called me thatwhat a retarded name, couldn't you just say retard instead?
Prime Evil Softie is getting the corrupting the worldstone again…. how do we stop him from amassing all this strength…
>>98776567You've been called that more than three times this week.
>>98776567Yeah posting like this it really is a fucking wonder how you’ve been called that three times.
>>98776566Cheers, pal. I'm right there with you
>>98776567We came up with a nickname that rhymes now it will be with us forever.
>>98776572considering that about three 1000 post threads had 500 mentions of wronganon each, it's a miracle it was only three times
>>98776568HE'S USING HIS HYPNOTISTS SPIRAL EYES ON US NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>98776573Woah a wild asciface this newfag didn’t recognize. Thanks for being a namefag!
>>98776540This guy >>98776573 is asciface (look at his trip)
>>98776581oh, i've seen him obviously, we even talked earlier since he was posting a ton of my really old cyoas
>>98776578I knew I shouldn't have been a Purebody!!! Aghhhhh,.....
>>98776569Everyone has been called it like 5 times per day
>>98776586Except for me unironically because I haven't been wrong and I don't argue nearly as much as you guys do.
>>98776584>my are you an author perchance? I find it hard to believe but you could pull receipts like pca did during SC
>>98776590Wronganon...
>>98776593NO NON ON NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>98776593wronganon prime types in all lowercase
>>98776591yeah, but i was an author in the old school style, the cyoag of 2012-2017 when i made cyoas was a very different place than it is today, the only comparable thing to modern cyoas that happened was like stardust, and that's small by today's standards
>>98776598wronganon...
>>98776604aw shucks you got me
>>98776598"prime" disappeared long ago.
>>98776607He just announced himself? Why do you think he posted that in all lowercase?
>>98776609you don’t seriously think I’m him right?
>>98776612Well, I have no reason to doubt you, do I?
>>98776601Hey stop attentionwhoring retard.
>>98776601A lot of yours hold up just as well against "modern CYOAs". They're not necessarily simple, which to me is the hallmark of a lot of the early ones: pill pickers and so on, or an assemblage of random items. What do you feel makes the older style distinct?
>>98776617I just said he types in all lowercase but he’s not the only person who can do that…
>>98776620it's mostly the larger size combined with how they take over threads, stardust was the first one to really feel like that
>>98776620Post something else of his because now I’m curious.
>>987766091. I am "prime" but I stopped doing it since the first day. 2. Writting in all lowercase and changing how you write is a thing everyone does all the time. Even more when pretending being someone else.
>>98776629scroll up to near the beginning of the thread>>98776625Do you think that's more a difference in content or culture? I personally would put that on the increase in popularity for the most part
>>98776660it's a very different culture, but only in the sense that 99% of people aren't authors today, while back then 33% of people were authorsall the shitposting and arguments are still the same
>>98776682I wonder what caused the difference. Either most authors have left while most anons stayed, or a flood of newfags have overwhelmed the thread while contributing very few authors.
>>98776838NTA but the answer is likely both.
>>98776857>>98776838it is probably both, pluse the way cyoas are done is just different, back then you'd get a lot of responses for small cyoas like the ones i made in those days, then other people would just make their own as well because it's easy to make a small cyoa like that, like some of these could be done in an houri would often say that of all the types of media, cyoas are the easiest to get into, becuase it takes so little time and you can still get something good if you make an honest attempt, these days anons treat it more like they treat big budget slop, participating in creating it seems unheard of and they'd rather let someone completely unrelated to the people in the metaphorical room make the rules for them rather than the more natural approach exemplified by kids just making up the rules of the game as they go alongat least it's not as bad as in actual big budget slop, because nobody is making money, so that's not an incentive toxic to the consumers the way it is in a lot of other media, however somehow anons decided that getting a thousand (you)s is still more important than just having fun and have still created a toxic incentive despite not really getting anything useful out of it like money
>>98776424>le mastermindLike we told you before, no one thinks you're smart. You're the only one that keeps using the phrase mastermind.
>nobody said anything but he still couldn't help himself from crying about softie
>>98774722Anon... this is a poll of every piece of OC in the past fifty years....
>>98776131>supercomputerIt doesn't say your brain is as strong as a supercomputer. It just says it whirs like a supercomputer. Your head just makes the sound of a server farm now. You were scammed.
>>98776933>tfw childcare OC led to your parents creating you
>>98772748I made an overpowered doctor alchemist build with like signature technique transfiguration, vessel transfer, poison/panacea specialist and as many of the initiate healing powers as possible and its ok but it just feels so... unambitious... I don't know how to fix that feeling.
>>98777047Either go broader or go higher. Broader is spreading out across all of alchemy rather than just the medicine-related parts. Higher is doing silly shit with summons, but you can theme it in terms of medicine. Maybe open a hospital and pretend some medicine god that's actually just a major summon of yours is in charge, and the other smaller summons are its workers. Meanwhile you can be anything between a highly respected transfiguration surgeon down to the janitor who's only pretending to be a janitor.
>>98777047>>98777057Oh, and this is of course even better if you take the new sect option. Your medicine can be a rival to the factions, except if you make them need you you get political leverage.
>>98771909>Course:Emergent Magical Theorem (Alchemy)>Boons:The Spark, Outside Fate>Sponsor:Heath Auger (Philosopher's Stone)With this, I shall become a god!>Companions:Flora Lafitte, Fie Aruass, Lance DeLac, Laenine Caerita>Conspiracy:Societas Vitae>Quests:The Floral Cycle, A Father's Footsteps, A Knight's Prestige, To Slay Gods
>>98777160Stop attentionwhoring
>>98777179
>>98777179He just posted a build anon. So anyway how much does Junko weigh.
Respond to this post with waifu builders. Nonmagical focuses encouraged.
>>98777179>someone called me an attention whore again so im gonna falseflag by calling a random anon an attention whore
so how about that OR
>>98777200You dont need focuses for non-magic just get rifles instead
>>98777185Buildniggers are tourists
>>98777202What would you want to talk about? It's been done to death.I guess we can talk about how its impossible to make a good Dwarf build that isn't relying on Overendurance + "One" to squeeze as much use out of him as possible. Seriously, the Dwarf parents are so dogshit. Gramrouth is cool for a wandering magician but he's got Grey Wandering instantly gimping him as an option, Detmoun has has Treacherous Palm and even worse he's boring, leaving the only good option of Ragratelyn. Grim Outlook is good, her parenthood is also solid, the only downside is how competitive the Mother section is in general.
>>98777201Wronganon...>>98777179Softie...Kiss already.
>>98777219>It's been done to death.So has been the Goyslop Conscript, yet here we are discussing Inner Heavenly Izzat Consolidation Ten Realms of Saar Aura or whatever fhe fuck
>>98777219i'm just trying to foster a higher level of dialogue
>>98777281Because it's still alive!>>98777290How about you actually talk about something instead of just declaring that you want to talk?
>>98777291i don't have anything of substance to say so i get others to talk for me
>>98777316At least you're not just posting clickbait like a few discord retards I know.
Do anons think we'll get to 1000 posts before next bread?
>>98777351not unless you come up with a good troll, it's too deadtwo recent threads did though
>>98777291>Because it's still alive!It's not. Endless >My aura saar aura strong saar I rape you saar Is just absolute trash tier
>>98777202>>98777219What demon is Seo supposed to be named after?
>>98777202>ORIm tired of it
>>98777453I love OR
>>98777458I see people referring to worms in her, what's the quick rundown on the story
>>98777489Her evil adoptive grandfather tortured her with a pit full of his familiars, which are magical worms, and inserted them wothin her for a magical ritual (inserting within her fragments of a tainted holy grail, so that she could become its second vessel), and to keep her under control, as he can kill her or take her over.Nta
>>98777432The original Seo, she's a copy created by Dei with the memories of the original.
>>98777489Yeah it's pretty much what >>98777519 said. They look like this in realta nua (definitive version which is also sfw) In the eroge version of fate/stay night their heads resembled dicks.
>>98777519The funniest part of the situation is that despite being Rin's sister and their father deciding to give one girl away so both could be mages, he decided to fo it the fucking Worst way possible.Tosaka magic relies heavily on imaginary numbers and void elementalism, Sakura was a Prodigy in that feild.Matou magic reled heavily on water elementalism and the transmutation of elements, Rin was a prodigy in that field.So their father decided to had Sakura to the Matou and train Rin in tousaka magic because Rin had 5 elemental affinities(none of which were Void) and her dad thought that was cool.He wasn't just a sociopath, he was an Incompetent, Retarded Sociopath.
>>98777557I think that was supposed to be tragic rather than funny anon.
>>98777519Neat.>>98777557Is he stupid? So he has time and dedication to worm one girl but doesn't take like five minutes to figure out who should go where
>>98777573Sakura and Rin suffering is always funny.
>>98777557He’s retarded and worse than both his daughters in every metric that matters but let’s not pretend like Rin’s rainbow affinity is bad for Tohsaka magecraft.
>>98777557Her fifth element is ether which is void.
>>98777557Average one is great for tohasaka magecraft too, even if yeah, Rin would have been more suited for the Matou.>>98777581No, he's talking about Sakura and Rin's original father, the one who wormed Sakura is the one who adopted her, as their original father couldn't grow them both as mages, and knew that the Matou, who are family friends, lacked an heir.
>>98777557Rin canonically grows up to be one of the top 100 greatest mages in the history of Clock Tower, a world-spanning magical tradition stretching back over 2000 years. She's a super genius that would excel at anything.
>>98777621My favourite clock tower genius is Aoko but as a Magician she’s in a league of her own.
>>98777621Her sister isn't any worse either. She deconstructed and reconstructed maou magecraft into something compatible with her afginity while restructuring the tainted grail into a part of her casting method.She was literally turning into a Beast and usurping angry manju in the heaven's feel route.Neither sister was lacking talent in any way.
>>98777597>Her fifth element is ether which is void.Anon mis-spoke.Sakura was a one in a billion mage with matching Origin and Element for Imaginary Numbers, not a standard Void/Ether element mage.
>>98777635Aoko's actual talent as a magus is lacking when you don't account for her True Magic. She's capable of ridiculous, world-shaping miracles when she uses it, but the normal general-purpose stuff outside of her specific wheel-barrel is lacking. Touko makes her help the protagonist as a kind of in-field training in Fate/Extra, and she is specifically noted to lack complexity as a teenager in Mahoyo. It's only after she matures as the Fifth that she is able to mature as a mage overall. She is very cute, though.
>>98777655>Aoko's actual talent as a magus is lacking when you don't account for her True MagicWhich is frustrating given her talent. Her mana efficiency is so high it actively disproved current clocktowers understandings of mana dynamics. She really could have become a world-class mage if she just fixed her mindset.
>>98777636>She was literally turning into a Beast and usurping angry manju in the heaven's feel route.This isn't exact, Angra Mainyu is a curse, not a being, she wasn't usurping it, she was becoming her vessel, as Angra Mainyu by itself is just a mass of curses, just like it used Shirou as a basis to relate to humans in HA.
>>98777665She'll do it eventually. Her future self is even noted as a perpetual motion machine that can make it possible for humans to evolve to a space-faring species. It just takes time. Which, as a user of True Magic, she has an endless supply of, seeing as she gained agelessness, apparently automatically, after obtaining it -- in the Melty Blood remake, she even gives enchants somebody else to not age, which is wild given that human souls start to decay if left in one incarnation for too long in Type Moon.
I want to make a short 1-3 pager to refresh my creative juices. Do you anons want a mutant gladiator tournament or a fantasy dungeon crawler party builder?
>>98777655Yeah I’ve played through pretty much everything she shows up in (including extra on a vita). Honestly I really hope she shows up in the remake somewhere because alice stole her enhancement function.>>98777665Her mentality is part of her charm imo and as >>98777677 stated it’s an eventuality not just a possibility.
>>98777679the fantasy one is a safer bet for popularity
>>98777679If we're being honest the gladistor will be more creative, but will likely pan with no engagementThe party buolder will likely be largely creative junk food for your writing skills, but will get engagement for multiple threads.
>>98777679Mutant gladiator tournament. We just had a pretty good one in the other vein by Herbert Quain
Opinions on taking throughbreeding and apantoxia if I have the all-glimpse? I think it's an extremely useful tool, but I don't know if I want her to be blind.
>>98777701 (me)Forgot to say but in Outer Reincarnation.
>>98777701>apantoxiaWTF is Apantoxia?
>>98777727Your daughter
>>98776541https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/95497180/#q95499561>Passives are not active. I know this relates to the ridiculously massive argument about Infinite Inertia. I don't like taking sides, but in this case I feel it's fairly clear that Infinite Inertia can disable passive effects. Some people might give me some flack for the fact that Universal Sovereign gets boned by that, to which I'll say you simply go back to being a Spirit again after Infinite Inertia ends. You might have jump through some logistical hurdles to convince Yama/Yudi that you should be in the Spirit Womb and not heaven or hell, but I'm sure they'll understand. Sorry to rain on the other anon's parade with this one, I know it's controversial.This one?
Man, I wish the 60-100 years to learn a legendary technique anon was right. I salivate at the thought. It would be so incredibly good. You could even still explain how companions randomly got theirs way faster. You get yours way faster than normal, so clearly something like that could have happened to them too, they didn't need to learn the hard way. Unfrunately, if everyone is doing it this makes training times irrelevant, and I stop salivating at how good it is, because it's not. A shame.
>>98777736>Your daughter>In the Companion Section>Valid target for true love.What's the running tally for incest options in the cyoa so far?
when you make a limitless meridians build, do you take vast generalist or vast specialist with it?
>>98777797People are waiting for the update that will add Paxxia as a sibling, so they will be able to true love both her and apantoxia.
>>98777798... does it matter?
>>98777814What are even the odds for an OR update?
>>98777815Absolutely. Be very careful how you answer.
>>98777797Your parents can be siblings(but you can't true-love them), you can TL your cousing and your daughter... I think that's it.
>>98777819NTA but vast specialist
>>98777816Tankista already posted one page of the update, with various siblings, but said he will first rest, then work on something else and then, possibly the update.
>>98777823Wow okay I finally might build OR.
>>98777798I went for vast generalist, but harshly regretted it.Now I'm coming to peace with it.
>>98777822Ha! You fool. You're fucked now.
>>98777827>>98777830So which is the right option?
>>98777831the one you didn't take
>>98777821>I think that's it.Anon, if you take pntorai as your parent and apantoxia as a companion...You can fuck your sister and your inbred daughter
>>98777821Who is your cousin?
>>98777833I appreciate the honesty.
Reminder that anyone who takes Pure Body will not survive the coming storm.
>>98777836Kalliopa. The princess of the light-dark empire.Pick one or both of the Aureole siblings for your mother+father choice, which makes Kalliopa your cousin.
>>98777842I will use alchemy to give undeath, perennial lotus, pure body and klutz to cute anons like you before reshaping your body into a nice little immortal pet for some rich noble to buy so i can afford to do this to more cute anons like you>All alchemists are evilNo we just have vision that others lack, they don't know how wonderful the world could be
>>98777861I can see you for the scum you are with Karma sense but anyone else can too.
>>98777870I wouldn't actually do that in any build, the alchemist ones capable of it are more about helping people in a sane and normal medical way, but hey, if we're throwing around death threats, i figure some people in youdu can do even worse than deth threats
>>98777872I don’t really consider that a threat. If you’re actually an evil alchemist someone with karma sense will know. The common trend is a decent chunk of the sorcerers are evil though
>>98777875It's a shame because they also have more potential for good, like the other affinities are a bunch of murderhobos for the most part, only alchemy can do elaborately constructive and helpful things
>>98777878Yeah it’s funny like that isn’t it? Even the most mild alchemy build still has evil guy vibes at minimum.
>>98777886It's not like the other ones don't seeing how they're all murderhobos, alchemy just has worse creep vibes
>>98777797Don't forget JNPLThe only god target that doesn't have the "true love doesn't work" clause
>>98777893I’m an ORlet so please sell me on the box. SRTR is so hot I’m tempted like nothing else.
>>98777878>The guys with the most potential for good are the most evil>The ones who can only be murderhoboes are the closest to being good guys
>>98777898If you're hoping for that then remember to not take outer tide so the other anons don't get in your way
an alchemist of ze streets, ja?
>>98777893She's a mother, who are immune to true love, and can't be dice fudged (as it would be op).
>>98777893>JNPLAnon, JNPL is a parent option. All parent options have blanket immunity to the True Love perk in the perk description.
>>98777901Can people mess with us while we’re inside the box? I wasn’t really eager to mp because the setting seemed chaotic enough as is.
We need JRPG Traitor update. More incest, more abilities, more options to be the strongest and have aura
>>98777911There's only one box so if you pick Outer Tide anyone who also picks the box is probably going in there with youI remember there being a decent amount of box builds last time so you'll probably get someone else in there with you if you pick it
>>98777919Quickly turns the situation into hell as that would probably get old very fast. Seriously this is probably the one cyoa I can’t fathom choosing multiplayer in.
>>98777911Like maybe? The other people in the box can definitely fuck with you. While it's unlikely that those from outside will get in, it's not outside the realm of possibility. If Charlie found a way to kill God someone might find a way to get into the toy box.
>>98777923Normally you're spread between a bunch of continents and if you're playing by the rules probably isolated from anyone doing the same things you're going for
>>98777202>>98777219Ok, let's see what's left in the box:The chronological order is almost certainly jnpl > ymrd > srtr, as srtr would never have allowed earth as we know it, and if clearly referencing isekai tropes from earth, implying she's supposed to be alive right now as a stinky femcel neetThere was a build I made but never posted where one could always kill 0^0 by using the drakonid forms 4 eye benefit to stunlock her (3x oculus of human goodness + look of chaos) in a random dungeon and then randomly summoning majin until one of them can kill herStating this out loud makes me feel like re-optimising but I don't think I have the timeView of fore being turned into a technique would have large implications for the future, both in worldly benefits and implied spiritual progress to ascensionI love inner vision so fucking muchGreatriding spurs cheeseBig wait areneaBig wait arenea + Infinite range eye bullshitMagic is a perfect plot device until it is defined, and the reason the powers at be are not defining it in the halls of black and gold is implicatively to use it against youThe dragon judge returning is a bigger threat then 0^0 due to the inherent rhythms of narrative implying they have to kill you to re establish threat before 14th solo'sThat's all I have left, I think
>>98777701Narratively it's a bad idea because it makes your abilities too similar, and therefore makes it easier to kill one of you offObjectively it's a very middling use of thoroughbreeding
>>98777878Yeah that's basically how most stories work. The bad guys get the super op versatile powers that they use to create problems, the good guys get much more limited combat powers they use to punch those problems away.
>>98777962>Narratively it's a bad idea because it makes your abilities too similar, and therefore makes it easier to kill one of you offI won't have it forever, I want to learn from Tenyota to make it into a shareable technique.More generally my parents are Ratibor and Mayosara (because I feel they are two parents who will inherently be happier from having a child, and Ratibor is strong enough to protect us and avoid ending up like Charlie).This means I have the all-glimpse, as I prefer it over Mayosara's eyes.Now I was thinking to buff Apantoxia by giving her my numerous inborn gifts, but I don't know if I want to blind her.
>>98777919If you pick the box and the MP option you're going to have to deal with the century long demon orgy happening around you while you're playing Uno with SRTR
>>98777972In that case it would be very strong narratively, and quite strong objectively (Provided you are predisposed to the same ideas as apantoxia)
>>98777952I personally wouldn't trust the "one could always kill" you would need to set her up in a good trap, because one of the issues with dealing with mathemagicians is that they can disable inborn gifts. It happened to Achaxe.
>>98777994I cannot be killed before I enter my first dungeon, because of the fight with goblins I am to have thereThe dungeon will be almost filled with one and only one slot openI wait for a period of years looking directly at the doorIt has been confirmed that certain majin can spawn with powers capable of harming 0^0She cannot directly attack me or wish me harm, and cannot think of any plansIt seems airtight to me, as long as 3x oculus can stop her from leaving or casting direct magics to kill / disable mePerhaps I should learn mathemagic and numerology before setting the trap, so that I might be able to block any mathemagic she tries to use on me
>>98778003why would she be forced to attack you directly? what is preventing her from using proxies?
>>98777990My main problem is about possibly damaging her life (and those of my future descendants) by making them blind, which would make me feel bad.
>>98778009Having all-glimpse pretty much compensates any blindness as they can still "see" with it.
>>98778008She can't plan"Anything more complex than going after the enemy in the most straight line possible and hitting them with attacks produced by muscle memory will be beyond them" - look of chaos
>>98778009The all glimpse is a burden to bear, but it's usually one of too much awareness, not too littleIt's a similar issue to making them born supersoldiers in the first placeAll we can say is that someone has to hold the bladeThere is always a cure to these things though. Some magical whatnot hidden under a waterfall
Looking at the cyoa againEvery parent that doesn't take up a limited slot is so much better than the ones who do, unless those parents work perfectly for your build or are good misalliance bait.
>>98778016but how would you even get her alone? Then you also got to be sure that she doesn't have some light bending bullshit that just prevents you from looking directly at her via deus ex machina. Like you wouldn't be the first person to have look of chaos.
So are we just waiting to get deleted instead of making new threads?
>>98778034Buki and an almost full dungeonTechnically I could also use sight beyond sight to have more points to look fromAlso I have two heads to look at her with, on long dragon necks
>>98777798>>98777815Vast generalist has a slightly better time dealing with repeatedly dissipating your whole aura. Not important if you also took sacred fountain but it's something.
>>98778035We have like a day. The 4chan is dying
>>98778035We're rebranding to spirit Conscript/Outer Reincarnation general, or OSCRG.
>>98778003Why go through all this trouble when you can just Rez JNPL and win before you even close the menu?
>>98777842Anyone without Illumination of the Heart isn't going to make it anon
>>98778040you do know Buki doesn't guarantee that it will happen on terrain that is favorable to you. It might just force you out of the dungeon or you might just sit there doing nothing for a few hundred years as the letters don't really have a time limit and even if she does come for some reason, she might come with an entire army in toe.
>>98778047I vaguely remember tank saying you cannot do such a thing, and it sounds relatively lame compared to rolling the majin lottery until I find a kill
>>98778043We're on page 10 anon, on a weekend.We have a couple hours at most.
>>98778054>tank sayingTank should deepthroat a shotgun, I don't give a fuck about anything that's not stated, directly or indirectly in cyoa itself.
>>98778050I ensures that it will happen, and I simply intend to never leave the dungeon. I will make it less likely for me to be moved then herI'm never alone in the dungeon anyway, I'm endlessly spewing out majin. I don;t even need to send them out one by one, as the limit on the dungeons only applies for entering and leaving.Me staying as an infinite untouchable majin factory is bad for her, and inevitable she will attempt to deal with the issue herself, and when she does I'll get herAlso dungeons have a limit of 4 people. No army possible
>>98778054>I vaguely remember tank saying you cannot do such a thingWouldn't be the first time tank was wrong about what he wrote.The seeting is honestly More interesting without CHRL and her meta-bullshit though. I'd rather be resurrecting the dragon race, ending the orc threat, and figuring out the mysteries of the Dream instead of dealing with a highschool droppout girlfailure locking us out of a third of the setting because her mary sue build didn't work out the way she wanted.
>>98777952>The dragon judgeWho? I don't remember this
>>9877805615 threads beneath us, most of which have not been bumped for 20 hoursTen threads have been made in the last eight hoursWe have around 10 hours
>>98777763>You might have jump through some logistical hurdles to convince Yama/Yudi that you should be in the Spirit Womb and not heaven or hell,Wait, why would you have to convince them of anything?
>>98778011>>98778026You convinced me, will go for it (if I manage to get enough companion slots, I want tons of people).
>>98778068The reason the dungeons are evil is the psychic remnants of the true dragons seeping into the dream and corrupting itThe dragon judge was the big fusion of dragons that got obliterated by vtorushaThey are coming back, with the implied rebirth of the true dragons, and when they do they will begin the real second war of heaven and earth
>>98778069Anon, the last 10 hours were night for the USA timezone. Shit is going to accelerate the moment burgerland wakes up.
>>98778079I have a resolute faith in nothing happening, but I suppose I could construct a thread if you insisted
>>98778065but why would she need to get in to deal with you? Couldn't she collapse to dungeon on just seal the surrounding area or setup a garrison at the entrance it wouldn't be too hard to kill any majin popping out, especially small in numbers. I am not sure buki can even trigger before you finished all of your encounters so you would be compelled by fate to do all of those first so its not guaranteed immortality.
>>98778066That's what 2 thirds of the multiplayer builds were going for while agreeing to help the guys who made dealing with her heir main priority
>>98778072It probably turns back on while you're already going to heaven/hell so you need to interrupt the process
>>98778093>while agreeing to help the guys who made dealing with her heir main priorityWhich isn't necessary if you just press the "Resurrect the Author" button and abprt CHRL's retarded fanfiction storyline from the actual main plot.
>>98778092Buki ensures an encounter, not the death of either one of usShe literally needs to encounter me. Blowing up the continent I'm on wouldn't countFATE means either she enters or I leave and I simply don't intend to leave. I will contemplate spells and summon powerful majin for any amount of timeI can send the majin out in groups, and I can have some of them return to give informationI don't think the dungeons can be meaningfully broken into given the dream magic involved, but I also don't think 0^0 will know that it's a trap, given I won't label myself as the 11th outsiderFate doesn't tell the people it's manipulating that it's manipulating themObviously I intend to complete every encounter other then the one that always triggers when I enter my first dungeon, then enter the dungeon and set the trap
We hit 1000! Woooo!
>>98778113SABIAhjasjh
Get along, try again>>98778125>>98778125>>98778125
>>98778109Ugh... aren't you kinda expecting FATE to work too much in your favour, your expecting that it will pretty much force 0^0 to go into a dungeon she has no need to go into, instead of just forcing you out of the dungeon. Like if neither you intend to leave, nor does she intend to enter FATE will eventually force someone out and considering that you are the one with the death letter wouldn't it primarally target you? Like the plan could work on paper, but do you really think your going to have the willpower to just sit in the same dungeon for decades on end.
>>98778133She has no reason to fear the dungeon, I consider it life and death that I remain insideShe can be affected by every possible force of chaos, I am in a closed perimeter with servants killing anything that breathesWith multioccular I can also use other eyes + sight beyond sight to effect the world without leaving the dungeon. Kneeling twilight prevents boredom. The only reason for me to leave is that my quest has been completedThe death letter MUST force her to follow me
>>98778158well why wouldn't she send in scouts first? Why would there be a reason for her to personally enter a dungeon, when its SRTRs domain.
>>98778173She could send scouts, and they would instantly die
>>98778192and then she would know its a trap... and would start preparing accordingly.
>>98778197She would believe it was the base of operations for a very powerful demonlord, it wouldn't be unexpected for basic defenses to be presentAnd FATE dictates she must eventually either drive me out or enter by herself
>>98778204yeah and she can probably drive you out, like what are you going to do if you have to fight an agent that has a death slot that can't be triggered in a dungeon, something like YER. Then you won't be able to insta kill them.
>>98777952>The dragon judge returning is a bigger threat then 0^0Wait when and how?
>>98778222The when is after 0^0 is defeated and there is a long period of peaceThe how is that they have dream shenanigans ready and charging, and have already spread to every dungeon in the world and taken the entire underground
>>98778219I would just summon something to mindcontrol themBecause I have infinite majins, and infinite timeAnd also the ability to cast magic
>>98778234ugh... that problem is that you don't have infinite majin, you are limited by the dungeon capacitiy restriction so, plus the whole supply issue, you still need to feed the majin and I don't think there is food and water in the dungeons. What if they just send in a suicide bomber into the dungeon, who just explodes the moment they get in?
>>98778247Don't "ugh..." me you fucking bratThe dungeon limitation stops people from entering, it does not stop people from existing, and thusly would not stop them from spawning majin above the limitI both can summon temp majin who don't need to be fed, and can send them out of the dungeonI can perceive outside the dungeon and if they send a suicide bomber I can act accordinglyAlso, said bomber can't kill me, because I can't die until 0^0 meets me
>>98778277ehh... I am too lazy to argue, this is a dumb plan that relies on the enemy doing a very dumb move and not finding anyways to go around it. It relies on too much stuff going your way. Like even the suicide bomber doesn't even have to kill you if it blinds you then your eye powers no longer work. There are way too many ways to go around this even beyond what I suggested.
>>98778286What was your plan?
>>98778230Yeah, but Xian killed the Judge. Unless maybe whatever he did to the Midnight Point might grant him a comeback?>Magic is a perfect plot device until it is defined, and the reason the powers at be are not defining it in the halls of black and gold is implicatively to use it against youEverything the gods do has a singular purpose, but how are they fucking you over with spiritual feel and intuition?
>>98778384I am only assuming the judge comes back directly, but there should be a single intellectual representation of the living and malicious dream, and if there were it would probably be the judge>Everything the gods do has a singular purpose, but how are they fucking you over with spiritual feel and intuition?I don't mean that magical choices are a trap option, I mean that them having the ability to retcon what magic can do and when is intentional, and the first thing an outsider should do once they land on the world is determine in excruciating detail what could be possible, so that it can't be changed
>>98778400Thats a heavy assumption, we dont even know if his corpse was turned into sludge in the underground. That would open up the idea of multiple true dagons resurrecting through the nightmare, if that is even possible after what Vitorusha did.>I mean that them having the ability to retcon what magic can do and when is intentionalHigh level paranoia. The likelyhood of them agreeing well enough to do so during your lifetime is slim. JNPL isnt going to let you live that long anyways.why is the 14th so important?
>>98778465The 14th is who I am guessing will be fighting the dragon judge12th either comes right before the defeat of 0^0 or shortly after13th is rising tension14th defeats the dragon and changes the worldExtreme headcanon>Thats a heavy assumption, we dont even know if his corpse was turned into sludge in the underground. That would open up the idea of multiple true dagons resurrecting through the nightmare, if that is even possible after what Vitorusha did.There has been some talk about the implications behind the existence of Araith, who may or may not be the first true dragon, now borne from the nightmare, who will then go on the rebirth the othersOr something like thatIt does open the possibility of a world ending crisis, and that's the point, it's the next crisis, and while you are narratively supposed to be able to deal with this one, you narratively shouldn't be able to solve the next one alone unless you plan for it>High level paranoia. Yeah>The likelyhood of them agreeing well enough to do so during your lifetime is slim. It's the type of thing they definitely could do though. Mandate the creation of a spell that could destroy you. You have to double check>JNPL isnt going to let you live that long anyways.No matter the challenge, you must rise to meet it. It's not the best thing you can do, it's the only thing you can doThe only choice is to Live, and the how is your discretion
>>98777952Dragon judge can't return, Tankista remarked multiple times True dragons can't exist anymore in the world, nor can they be reanimated.Also you're being far too optimistic in your odds vs 0^0.
>>98778487Honestly nice take, if a little generous with the timeframes. Google translate for Araith gives me an association with speech, so maybe you intend for them to defy the gods and their script louder than any before them?>who may or may not be the first true dragon I know you want to headcanon, but we already know who the first true dragon is, the mother of the second seat. Or maybe you could say that the nightmare gave birth to the amalgamation once more instead?The idea that the dragon Judge comes back is cool, other than 0^0, the firstborn empire and the old throne, none has held such a vast amount of territory. Also, having to fight against an enemy of Xian the goat sounds nice and terrifying at the same time. Since you dont have him around to help deal with matters this time.>It does open the possibility of a world ending crisis, and that's the point, it's the next crisis, and while you are narratively supposed to be able to deal with this one, you narratively shouldn't be able to solve the next one alone unless you plan for itAgain, Xian dealt with both the Judge and Erginter in his heyday. One was without the backing of the outsider system. Like most, i believe that Pandemonium is an even bigger threat than the judge and 0^0 both. Truth is that the 12th will likely become aware of this and a few other smaller things you were unable to prioritize. They will overall have more freedom than you had. The other big issue is if YMRD throws Erginter 2.0 at you, But if you are lucky, Savmak(the sword) and the Keter will be there to back you up.>It's the type of thing they definitely could do though.SRTR is my patron god, i refuse to believe she would throw me under the bus without a heads up. >No matter the challenge, you must rise to meet it.All outsiders are touched by the god of the epic, to live a life with no regrets is the best we can strive for. People always have some interesting takes on OR, always fun to read.
>>98778635>Dragon judge can't returnThey were all removed by vtorusha crashing the foundation of their existence, but the fact vtorusha created a logic error implies that there is a way they could sneak back into existenceThis is based on something someone else said, but it was vaguely: The logical error that breaks solipsism is that to say you cannot be affected by anything in existence implies you were never born, and by pointing this out vtorusha removed the birth of the true dragons, but through the dream/nightmare it is possible for something like them to be born, and so if they are born to araith, who will retroactively become the first true dragon, then they can unilaterally reclaim existenceSomething like that anyway. They have to create their own birth and once they do that it's everyone's problem>Also you're being far too optimistic in your odds vs 0^0.Obviously it would still take work, and active involvement in the world, but having a trump card that could hypothetically kill her ready seems like something that won't backfireIt can be combined with other plans>>98778649>The idea that the dragon Judge comes back is coolIt is coolOR is a cool setting>Again, Xian dealt with both the Judge and Erginter in his heyday. One was without the backing of the outsider system. Yes but he died in the second one of thoseI have not seen either naruto nor boruto, but I know intuitively that naruto is/was defeated by an antagonist to set the stage for boruto to defeat them>Like most, i believe that Pandemonium is an even bigger threat than the judge and 0^0 bothOh yeah, I forgot about thatThey are quite dream related, so they could be placed into the same narrative as a mastermind behind some amount of dream spreading, who then needs to be defeated by someone after 14th>I refuse to believe she would throw me under the bus without a heads up. Yes, but also she is certainly the type of woman to give you 1-2 heads up a year until she runs out of ideas
Rolled 2 (1d2)>>98777684>>98777685>>98777688All of these are true. I like both premises, and have ideas for both. I'll flip a coin. Heads (1) mutie tournie, Tails (2) party builder.
>>98779134Well, that settles that. I'll do the mutant tournament sometime in the near-to-distant future.
>>98778056>>98778079TEN HOURS LATERIT HAS BEEN TEN HOURSAND WHERE DO I FIND OUR THREAD????YOU FLIGHTY LITTLE SHITLove you anonI AM IMMORTAL
