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Not playing empire until flaggelants are core
>>98811484That would make gun lines too good
Finally decided to take the plunge into fantasy since 11th ed 40k has been so shit. Picked up these kits at my LGS after playing total warhammer 3 for the past month and after trying every faction vampire counts has been my favorite so I want to start an army for them. I'll post again when they are built and then once more when it's all painted. Once these are done I'll get some zombies and wolves and bats etc...
>>98811484>Just let me have one of the best core in the game real quickHow about no
>>98811519What LGS is still selling those old ass fantasy boxes?
>>98811585If warriors of chaos can have forsaken and chaos knights in core, I can have my faith in core too.
>>98811593>>98811484Acceptable only if Empire gets an Army of Renown that bars cannons and artillery, and knights, and has to be led by an Arch Lector.
>>98811586at my LGS people can trade in old models etc...for store credit so people do that with these old models.
>>98811519Great, more 40kid tourists, just what we need.
>>98811615>and knightsBridge too far here
>>98811628I'll take 40k tourists over AOS traitor subhumans coming crawling back any day of the week.
>>98811631Fine. No Inner Circle knights. Just regular shmuck knights.
Can someone recommend a good paint for brass? There are lots of gold and bronze/copper paints but they don't feel quite right.Maybe some specific wash to put over gold to give it a less orange tint?
>>98811593No you can't because flagellants are much better than those as a core option (cheaper, never flee and yet still wreck ass). On top of you having some of the best shooting in the game and them not having any (spear chuckers and memecannon don't count)
>>98811478>TQGive the Chaos Dragon an upgrade sprue to make Galrauch.
He's a hunchback who serves a caped pale dude who says bleh a lot. You'll never guess his name.
>>98811655>On top of you having some of the best shooting in the gameThat’s really not saying much. But fine limit it to just 0-1 per 2000 points and you can only take up to 15 of them in a block. Also you can’t take steam tanks and chariots.
>>98811484Greatswords in core if an empire general is the general rather.
>>98811681That is absolutely saying much. Shooting is good against everything except the most tip top giga meta nonsense.
>>98811692Shooting sucks. It's weak as hell in TOW.
>>98811710It's no worse than it ever was in any edition prior to TOW and it certainly wasn't bad then.
>>98811712Ballistic skill shooting is really weak. There are almost no positive to hit modifiers compared to negative ones.
>>98811710It has dominated the competitive scene for quite a while, but it does require to know how to play the game. It's only low level shooting that sucks, which is how it's supposed to be.
>>98811672Is it Simmons?
>>98811710I envy that your scene has no meta wood elf players
>>98811745n-no...
>>98811749wood elf players dont exist.
>>98811654Did you try the Vallejo metallic paints?
>>98811478>TQThorgrim Ulleksson deserves a new model. He could even have the chair imo.
>>98811716I really want to understand where you're coming from, anon. Why do you think shooting of any kind is weak? Are you coming from 40k and bringing over wrong expectations? Are you not using your shooting units correctly? The shooting rules in TOW are almost identical to those from 6th. What makes you think shooting is bad specifically in TOW? Are you shooting at things you shouldn't be shooting at, like dragons? Do you understand that your can pay 8 points to give a state missile trooper with a handgun ~3 chances at killing a much more expensive model before they can close in and actually fight him? Are you aware that shooting is how people win games at tournaments, specifically because shooting counters the MSU objective-huggers that are so popular right now? What about any of this is weak? Why do you think shooting should be stronger?>no positive to hit modifiersThis has always been the case and this is the only thing keeping shooting even remotely fair. The only valid argument for shooting being "weak" in TOW is that cannons can't kill dragon-riding lords, and that's a stupid argument because cannons can kill everything else.
>>98811585>slop recolors him white lmao
>>98811909And smoothing out all the hard lines as well
>>98811810I see now both Vallejo and Army Painter have paints called brass I just couldn't find them in my LGS. I guess they were sold out or they don't carry the full metallics series for some reason.
>>98811860I'm a secondary that's gotten old enough where having a hobby would be nice. Can you tell me how shooting works tactically beyond reducing damage potential before lines clash?
>>98811932>Araby has canon black populations>GW won't develop them as a faction>even after retconning the fucking crusades
>>98811937You could always ask you LGS if they out of stock or didn't order as threy might order it for yo.I think the Vallejo ones are considered better than the Army Painter but i've not tried both
>>98811860Based on my experience with games like lion and dragon rampant, I find shooting in TOW to be an exercise of rolling a ton dice without much happening at all. Though units like empire handgunners don't even roll a lot of dice without doing anything. I assume that on a higher skill level of playing, shooting is more impactful. I will grant you that.
>>98811626Still in shrink? No way.
>TQMagnus the Pious of course, but I suspect he'll be too much AoS instead of being a regular guy on a horse.Since it is the same era, how about Stefan von Kessel, from Mark of Chaos?>>98811654I use Leadbelcher as a base, then paint some Aggaros Dunes contrast paint over it, make it darker toned than more shiny brass thought.picrel for reference
>>98812004does it surprise you, tons of people buy this stuff and then it sits on a shelf somewhere until the pile of shame gets too big and then they eventually sell it all or trade it in etc...
>>98811478>>What character would you like to see a brand new model of, in TOW?Engra Deathsword.
>>98812016I feel called out.
Kislev soon.
>>98811478>TQMorghur, specifically making him large enough to live up to this art.
I'm finally getting into TOW and am too hyped for a game no one plays locally and I'll have to drive 45 minutes to get a game for.
I managed to play two great games of Battle March, 600 and 750 points orc mirror.The first game saw Da Skull Smashas lead by Snagrog face off against the Ironjaws tribe lead by Morgit, a Blorc big boss with his own retinue, hired a trio of Ogres, and a large unit of 28 common goblins lead by an angry goblib warboss!The battle was swift, Grotfang's boars butchered by the Black Orcs and the ogres were charged by the trio of trolls.Snagrog quickly got to grips with Morgit the black orc general. Despite wieding the Headsmans Axe, no killing blow could land and Snagrog cut him down. But alas, despite killing both Morgit and the Blorc champion, the big uns were grounded down. Snagrog broke and got run over, AAARGH! This was not helped when Nazgob the Orc shaman, summoned the fist of Gork twice which killed more of the big uns than black orcs!Da Skull Smashaz lost the first game but took down most of the enemy with them!The second game of 600 was a more decisive thing. Snagrog once more faced Morgit but his killing blow belted Snagrog fast! Despite this, the triple charge of the big uns, trolls and boars broke the Black Orcs and Morgit and his gits were run down.The night goblins 3 fanatics ended up doing surprisingly little, one even strangled himself. Although Snagrog fell, da Skull Smashaz took the field!
>>98811478>What character would you like to see a brand new model of, in TOW?Idk maybe Merovech. He's around in this era and there might be something cool that could be done for a Mousillon list.
>>98812237It takes me an hour and a half to travel to our gaming venue, I wish it was only 45 mins for me.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1E9aba1ilsU>tk has both cav and chariots>no camels>camels and elephants can't exist because GW might do araby, in 10 years
>>98811519>picked up at my lgsBut howThis vampire skeleton box went oop like 10 years ago
I finished these guys on tuesday and am now working on the next batch. What is /wfg/ working on?
>>98812016Okay but the thing is I feel wrong tearing the plastic off and assembling it when I haven't been working overtime, so I leave it in the plastic as a treat when I've been a good wagie or made a halfway intelligent stock trade/my underwater positions go back to break even.
>>98812340>no camelsTK are inspired by a historical period when camels were not properly domesticated yet
>>98812349Oh shit, nice to see you again Blue Green Dwarf Anon. Those are looking nice.
>>98812363by the same token, they shouldn't have horsemen either
>>98812349It's been a pig assembly day. Striking colour scheme by the way, anon.
>>98812409Lovely pigs.
>>98812400>4000 to 5000bc (6000 to 4000 years ago)Kek
>having a chariot would be so coo-Fuck you ebay
>>98812349Monitoring Working on some Yeti bases for my ogres
>>98812444TECHNOLOGY OF THE FUTURE
Currently working also on a blood Herd beastmen Army to loose againsty mates and Rope them into the Hobby.I used the minotaurs from conquest because official gw minotaurs are so fuckin ugly, was a bitch to fit them on 50mm and get them into rank but we did it. Got 6 minotaurs for 60 eurobucks. And 12 conquest Trolls for my Troll Horde common Trolls for 30. Gonna Post Updates soonish. What are some other cheap or awesome 3rd party you using?
>>98812400I thought it was later than that my mistake
>Some asshole has been tampering with Imperial grain>Specifically, creating terminator crops that appear luscious and bountiful during harvest, but wither and die as winter descends. This, of course, is to cause mass starvation and turmoil>Campaign takes place in MiddenlandWhat's the call, homeslice? Nurgle cult, or some necromantic bullshit? Both seem to fit.
>>98812449Just wait for one of the ugly overdetailed nuHammer ones.
Why are beastchuds like this?
>>98812533Go the third route, The cult of Ahalt the Drinker.https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Cult_of_Ahalt_the_Drinker
>>98812385I've been off my phone (and thus, 4chan) for a bit. I mostly post on LAF and EEFL these days. But sometimes it's nice to come here and see what the buzz is about. What are you working on anon?>>98812409>It's been a pig assembly day You must certainly mean MISTER pig assembly day. I always complain about scale creep but I like these boars, definitely an improvement over the teeny tiny piglets that preceded them.>>98812451That's a cool yeti! Is it a print? Also nice work on the base, it certainly elevates the miniature.
I think dwarves should have had pig mounts not orcs
>>98813012>I've been off my phone (and thus, 4chan) for a bit. I mostly post on LAF and EEFL these days. But sometimes it's nice to come here and see what the buzz is about.>What are you working on anon?I like LAF, I poke my head in every so often and just absorb all the cool projects and passion for hobbying shown off in there. I am currently working on a gaggle of projects because I am a fool. Lizardmen, Ogres and my Dwarf hold. Nothing too spectacular or fancy, but it brings me relaxation and comfort. I would get more done if I was not goofing off with the Malakai DLC on TWW3 or playing as Bardin in VT2, admittedly. Any more projects in the pipe on your end, Bro?
>>98813031They can both have em as the orcs stole them from the dwarfs
>>98813045I set aside these 20 dwarfs as my fall/autumn project. This year i wanted to paint more miniatures than i did last year (105 ish). Without realizing it i surpassed that goal in August by doing tons of skull pass, AoW and EM4 dwarfs, so i decided to focus on random characters. I should be at 140 dwarfs painted by the end of the year.Next year i want to get all of my artillery done; I've got something like 97 crew members painted so it's only fair i get them cannons to fire and catapults to bombard the enemy with.
>>98811478>TQNakai! Yes, I know lizards are pretty much limited in current TOW, but considering Nakai's entire gimmick is wandering around until he happens to stumble into a battle that needs him, I'd love to have him rock up into an army list as a "spontaneous ally" or something.
>>98813095Always good to have a project set in stone to work on, you have a hell of an army and knowing you are still adding to it is quite impressive.105 minis in a year is a damn impressive amount too. Somewhat related, how do you rate the AoE Dwarfs? I was thinking of buying the plastic Rangers they sell, but heard mixed opinions/reviews. Looking forward to seeing more of your stuff painted up for sure, especially some artillery!
>SW combat patrol comes with chud claws and yiffen.I remember when combat patrols were actually good. I remember buying several of the old maggotkin one, now its just 2 units you want, then garbage. Still nothing compares to that fucking death guard one they did.
>>98813165Wrong thread my bad.
>>9881316540k combat patrols were never good with rare exceptions.Start collecting was based as hell
>>98813135I bought the whole AoW dwarf range 2 years ago (they usually run a 50% off black friday deal).I like them. They have a very "6th edition warhammer" look. But then again... I'm a sucker for dwarfs and I rarely dislike miniatures. They're al chunky bastards so it takes a bit fonessing to rank them up on 20mm; if you use 25mm you won't have issues.Their slayers are regular hard plastic and were a lot of fun to kitbash into having all sort of weapons. Anyone who has dwarf shold buy at least one slayer kit from AoW if nothing else and i will 100% buy them again.The only nitpick is that their weapons are retard level oversized, but this just gives you reason to use all your leftover weapon bits.Their other dwarfs are PVC multiparts. Some people hate it; but to me that wasn't a problem. I treated them as metal models, but lighter. People complain about having to use super glue so I experimented with using PVC glue.It was absolutely not worth the mess. Then i decided to use E6000 and boy did it make a world of difference.My only advice is to do sub-assembly: they have some detail that become frustrating to paint if having to go around . Pic related are their warriors.To anyone wondering about these models i say: wait till December for their sale and get a box or two of the slayers. If you're a somewhat experienced hobbyists and are ok with working with non hard plastic models, get also a bix each of all the other dwarfs.
>>98813225Thank you very much Bro! I'll keep that in mind because I probably will grab the Slayers and Rangers both.
I wish Mark of Chaos had push pause
>>98811654Here's how I painted brass for this blade here since I wanted a mini with the Brass Blade magical weaponBase:>Balthasar GoldShade:>Targor RageshadeLayer:>Brass ScorpionHighlight:>Canoptek Alloy
>>98811909It must have detected metallic armor.
>>98811519Look at this time traveler over here
>>98812851Yes got some Yetis and sabretusks from a German Printshop.The official sculpts are too ugly AND pricey.
They really need to add some grimderp shit to Cathay. Real chinese history is more grimdark than Cathay lore.https://youtu.be/tsuSylVVx2w?t=389This Zhang Xianzhong guy sounds like he'd get along with Konrad.
>>98812237try TTS
>>98814210>grave guard on rounds>heinrich in failcasthe should have gone further back
>>98814652two different destinations in time.Also there's a decent chance those AoS boxes still had squares included at the time.
>>98812851Fucking based, I didn’t even know he existed. That’s a good god to use.I still need to figure out how to get a Necromancer involved since I think a giant corpse windmill coming to life with one of its arms being the millstone is kino as hell, but that sounds like either Dieter Helsnicht or that Necrarch asshole living in the Forest of Shadows.
I still can’t get over how stupid the old grave guard looked.
I want a Chaos Dragon with rider, would it be frowned upon when the Dragon is sustantually smaller than the new sculpts? Pic related is a 2k Game Wood elves vs. My Trollhorde. Excuse the shitty or non existant Paintjob. Im a secondary and Just startet in May this year.
>>98814726True, the newer model looks much better.
>>98814689the white ones don't, i know because i have some, of skeleton warriors mind you, but stillthe other art is newer i think>>98814726>oldpicrel?
>>98814726>>98814740maybe add the image
>>98814717>>98812851Okay, I’ve got the plot. I’ll talk shop as a GM to show I’m not just an ideas guy. First session? Night of Blood. Excellent way to introduce the world in a darker way than, say, Ubersreik Adventures. After that they’re doing “Through the Drakwald,” but since this is 4e/5e the reason for Untergard’s destruction is the rise of Khazrak in 2512. Of course, I don’t want to use Khazrak overtly because campaigns should never use named characters that don’t have statblocks, so I’m going to make it Drexol the Extinction from EiR. There will be a botanist studying the incredible bounty of this new strain of wheat, and during the refugee train north they’ll talk to the PCs and build rapport. Bingo bongo, they get to Middenland and Power Behind the Throne begins, complete with the withered warrior-king taking orders from a Grima Wormtongue.The idea I’ve got is that the Bad Wheat needs to vernalize for the nastiness to develop, which means the first year the crop does exactly what it says it does; amazing yield and disease resistance. I’m not going to ramble lore so from Power Behind the Throne I’ll have enough setup between PC backstory and world development that the rest will make sense.
>>98811519damn nigger how much? i spent like 150 loonies on a sealed box of those skellies on ebay…we all wish our lgs had more stuff like that i reckon
Only oop models I’d wish for are savage orcs/bone splittas I don’t give a fuck about the rogue idols model but I wish it was a profile
>win a game and lose a game yesterday>loss felt ok, win felt hollow>mfwAm I getting burnt out of TOW or my army? I had fun but even when winning it felt sort of meh. Time to take a break?
>>98814859the game itself is just not fun, sorry you had to find out this late
>>98814876I find the game fun still, even the two battles yesterday, just felt a bit hollow is all.
>Be me, into lizardmen and skaven as a kid.>Alos liking VC and Chorfs as an adult.>0 (ZERO) of these factions in TOW.Hurray I guess.
>>98814894>0 (ZERO) of these factions in TOW.Anon, I have lukewarm news for you. You *can* play those factions in TOW.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/
>>98814780Just so you know, a modern stalk of wheat contains anywhere from 35-50 kernels. Medieval wheat is like, 33-44. This means this corrupted wheat could be a wonder crop hecause it has 49 kernels per stalk. And 49 is 7x7.
I play Beastmen and Empire.I love Adolf Hitler.
>>98814942Yeah, that tracks. What’s your favorite province?
>>98814903Unless he’s in one of those areas that prohibits legends
>>98814953I still don't believe that's a real thing and not a shitpost. Never actually heard of people being that retarded outside warhammer world itself.
What are my best options for kitbashing a Lammasu?Its essential it have clawed forelimbs and cloven hindlimbs, and the body should broadly have bullish shape
>>98814953>Unless he’s in one of those areas that prohibits legendsYou know, that's just one thing that I can't wrap my head around.>A person may live near a community that plays TOW>he may like the setting, and even like one or two particular factions>said factions, which were present & supposed on previous editions, happen to be a Legacy one>the person invests tens, or even hundreds, of $/€/£/etc. on the models, paints & brushes.>he invests time in building and painting them>In the end that person is denied by the community to play them, even if he is using the official rules, which are free and compatible with the entire Rules system Why?
>>98814998Bc its a lie most likely
>>98814780Don't make it the first year. People will still be hesitant to use the wheat. Make it so the corn takes seven winters to express the withering effect.
>>98814727>would it be frowned upon when the Dragon is sustantually smaller than the new sculpts?Anon there are houses substantially smaller than the new sculpt. Its larger than the average japanese apartment. Just get the dragon you want and put it on the proper base size, nothing else matters. Large targets dont get LoS blocked by other models anyways.
Bros I'm tired of losing with high elves. I've even lost a 750 point demo game against the empire. I'm not a competitive player but losing against someone that has never played TOW just because everything other armies have wounds on 4+ or better is tough
>>98814981aos dorghar has clawed hand, wings, hooved legs, is monstrous in size, and you can easily cut off the heads to replace them with your choice of upscaled dwarfen headbut the arms are humanoid rather than giving a quadrupedal impression and the mini is an overdesigned oversized messa khorne bloodthirster gives you something of a better size and design but also requires a replacement of arms, in addition to the headfor actual quadrupedal monsters another big overdesigned option is the slaughterbrute, the chitinous skin (easy to reframe as rock-like with lava during painting) would probably make slapping hive tyrants wings on it fitting, and those shouldn't be too hard to getyou could also get a manticore or chimera and replace the feet for hooves instead of trying to look for creatures natively with hooves, these two are also conveniently chaotic, and with enough fur to make a headswap or conversion with a dwarf head fittingmierce miniatures' manticore is larger, better posed, more muscular and probably easier to covert to have hooves in its feet and a humanoid bearded face
>>98815301What is your army list and what problems are you running into?
>>98815315This is what I used today>Noble with full plate, shield and halberd>Mage with warden of saphery, battle magic>2x10 sea guard>10 swordmasters>5 sisters of avelornWith a couple of magic items and that was it. Overall I feel archers are not very good because yeah, you're hitting on 3s but then you're wounding on 4s or worse so I think I'm ditching the sisters for the upcoming games.And elite units don't perform well. Yeah, you can kill 5 enemy models with the swordmasters but as soon as any enemy unit hits back, you're cooked.I have the feeling I'm doing everything I can, not forgetting any rules and pretty average dice rolls and yet I lose pretty consistently. Hell, an empire captain on horse held down the remaining 7 swordmasters + mage for a couple of turns on his own without losing a single wound
PLEASE GW let today be the day
>>98815408It's going to be the AoS Dwarf release anon, GW is not going to allow TOW and AoS release on the same week
>>98815408fuck that looks good. Glad I own the old ones too for collection purposes but these are great.
>>98815339Thanks anon for that. At a very simple glance, I don't think its to do woth you as a player but your army comp. It's not that it is bad in principal but your unit sizes are appallingly small. This means even the most minute losses cripple the units effectiveness, from general numbers attrition and combat resolution. At 750 I suggest dropping one of the heroes and bolster the unit sizes at a minimum. I am not a high elf player but even i know the value of bodies.
>>98815408FUCK
>>98815533Yeah, I was thinking on leaving the noble at home and bringing just the mage. A lot of people says mages in smaller games are not worth it but the empire mage wiped out almost an entire unit of sea guard on his own using pillar of flames.I'll try leaving the sisters at home and making the rest of the units bigger. Or maybe adding a small unit of cavalry, I felt I could use some movement in the army
>>98815620Maybe next week anon That will probably be Kill Team, but still
Good news for you, Dwarfs players. https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/k4cm0fox/sunday-preview-open-the-khazalite-holds/
>>98815693They should have released the tomb kings box instead of this dogshit female dwarf trash.
>>98815693yass kween slayyyy
>>98815723Halloween is on Saturday the 31st. Skeletons should go up for pre order for Halloween obviously. It must be next week.
>>98815723That female leader is the only good looking model from that release funnily enough
>>98815723Personally to me they’re both of the same quality
>>98814978>>98814998Nah I’d believe it to be true. Some people are really anal about ‘official’ rules to the point where I’d wager they would deny legends for ‘not being current’ or whatever mental gymnastics they have to perform. Considering the retards even in this general (myself included) would it honestly surprise you that it’s real? I think it’s more likely to be a LGS rule too.I’m not defaulting it to being a lie because I’d like to assume the majority of anons are talking in… good enough faith
>>98815693I'm not upset about the female dorfs, just how insultingly few models that has. Would be pathetic for the Start Collecting/Spearhead box. Utterly embarrassing as a starter box.
Is it just me or does whfrp just depict the setting as the most colorless shit hole that there can be?
>>98815136Thank you anon, I guess Im new and a faggot so I needed reassurance.
>>98815968It’s just you
>>98816067you're not disproving me.
Im gonna run These conquest bulls as Minos in My bloodherd and there is nothing you can do to Stop me (or them)>Feeling quite unbeatable after fitting These monsters on 50x50 and getting tnem into Rank.
I was listening a bit to Andy's stream about Kairos, when I noticed he said one of his heads only saw the past, whilst the other only saw the future; in 40k it is stated that one of Kairos' heads only speaks the truth, whilst the other only speaks lies.So, is it an "either; or" or is it both things.
>>98816077Show them ranked up then
>>98814726>>98814744Old plastic and metal GG looked awesome. I hate seeing AoS Barrow Guard and Deathrattle skeletons on current-era armies. Disgusting overdetailed CADslop with no sovl.>>98814859This >>98814876. Force your friends to play 6th edition, maybe with 7th core rules if you aren’t a 5-wide hater like some sickos.
>>98816100>Old plasticyeah no.
>>98816080I'm pretty sure kairos is just fucking with you, his whole deal is having been thrown down the well of time, not the well of truth
>>98815301High Elves are notoriously dogshit right now. I don’t even play TOW but older editions and know this.
>>98816080Both are true.One head sees the possibilities of the future, the other analyzes the past. Often leaving him blind to the present.And when asked for guidance or wisdom, one head will answer truly, the other will tell a lie that's equally believable. It's not said which head (past or future) speaks the truth, nor which speaks the lie.It was notable that when Kairos spoke to Lorgar, both heads spoke at the same time, the same message.
>>98815408Hate these new sculpts, and glad I bought the TK release box so that I have the cool old models that I wanted to return. The whole point of TOW coming back was old models, not this AoS shit.
>>98816119I know this is bait but I fucking hate truescale shit. I want proper heroic scale models, not this realism shit. The few times where they try the blend between truescale and heoric scale has been absloutely horrid with the marauders and I guess the bretonian peg lord. I hope people are horidng the older bret models so I can buy them for cheap.
>>98816106I’m sorry you’re a tastelet but these guys actually fucking rule. New Barrowslop took what they had and downgraded it.
>>98816134It isn’t bait I just hate nuGW’s aesthetic and prefer cartoonish proportions and detailing.
>>98816140Yes I love me my batman dogshit gothic skelletons with the most fragile connection pieces known to fucking man. I seriosuly cant take these fuckers seriously at all with all the bat motifs.
>>98816140I agree these are way better than that new AoS trash, I always laugh when I see people playing vampire counts using those new garbage models for all their units instead of buying superior old ones like that guy at the top of the thread did.
>>98816153only thing I can really say I like about the old vampire count range are just the dire wolves. Personally I think both iterations of blood knights have been awful.
WIP knights
>>98816162I have a box of the latest Dragon Princes, which I think look terrible for High Elves, but kind of want to use them as Blood Knights because they look fine for VC. Weird how that works.
Banner Boss ready for war! Besides basing.
>>98816333All the Bosses together
>>98816109He's certainly he type to gleefully fuck with people's plans, no doubt. Unless someone or something restricts him properly, anyone who seeks use him would end up being used in turn.>>98816113Yeah, that seems essentially how he'd work.>It was notable that when Kairos spoke to Lorgar, both heads spoke at the same time, the same message.Tbf, that was a 'once in an eternity' moment. Fateweaver was literally commanded by all 4 Chaos Gods to seemingly see the present and only tell the truth. An awesome scene imo.
>>98816313I actually hate the blood dragons because they look more like high elves than they do for their original inspiration. I'd like to see them redone like that one blood angel charcter and not remind me that dragon princes and high evles eixst.
>>98812118/v/ is down the hall, tranny >>98812237Britoids act like 45 minutes is a long drive. I guess 45 minutes will get you halfway across Britain, but in the US that's the average commute to work
>>98814998One thing that happened and that no one talks about is that right after the end times, GW sent out tens of thousands of agents to break into players' homes to physically prevent them from playing the game.These agents stole miniatures, tore off pages from rulebooks, hacked phones so that players couldn't text each other and organize games, they infiltrated FB groups and discord channels deleting every message of people asking to meet for a battle. You see, people wanted to play this game sooo badly, but GW was stopping them from enjoying their hobby. Nothing at all anyone could have done to play Warhammer because GW actually stopped all of us from doing so.People loved this game. Many had invested thousands of hours and dollars into an army; but GW was in direct control of their actions so they couldn't play. How GW does it is a mistery but to this day they retain full mental control on most of their customers.Similarly, GW has started doing the sane to people that play legacy factions.
>>98815693>Army set.>11 infantry models counting the character
>>98816492That's be $120 + tip
>>98816461I’m in America and work from home/passive income. Everything is within 15 minutes of my home. Growing up I was spoiled to have a great LGS where people played everything including obscure shit, but it’s now filled with zoomers and trannies who only play 40k and Battletech so I have to dive more than 5 minutes for a sovlful LGS.
>>98812118And yet not nearly as good as Kislev back in Realm of the Ice Queen. They fucking Space Wolf'd my Kislev, man.
>>98816538>>98812118Kislev was only good as a Whitw Dwarf supplement to Empire armies. I hate seeing this shit where nuGW has to onions it up and make Leo cool new reddit army. Same with Cathay.
>>98816531Niggas sits at home on disability
>>98816549Nah man, I recommend getting a copy of Realms of the Ice Queen. One of my favorite Fantasy Roleplay supplements for a reason, and it's got some great lore and worldbuilding.Then GW and CA come along and pull some pants on head retarded moves, like having pure chaos units like Things In The Woods being part of their army roster.
I still think Kislev's fluff, as it stands, is a complete clusterfuck, with a history of the newest books retconing a large chunk of the previous one.
Warhammers setting doesn’t hit as good once you explore other actual fantasy titles.
>>98816575Nah I am just wealthy.
>>98816549>>98816600Kislev is coolest when it's in the Polish Lithuanian commonwealth and Muscovy with minor fantasy embellishment. I agree that the best alt human factions like Cathay, Araby, Kislev are done best when they are conversion passion projects instead of getting put through the official Slopifier Machine™ by nuGW. >>98816604Old Warhammer was a very cool setting when it was inspired by history and myth instead of whatever aesthetic nuGW is churning out now.
>>98816492>>98816513Kek meanwhile one perry box contains pic related for £20
>>98816624>instead of whatever aesthetic nuGW is churning out now.Huh? You don't like bear cavalry? That was fucking EPIC back in the 2000s.
>>98816631I appreciate the Perry Bros still sculpting by hand but their best work was fictional stuff.
>>98816604feel free to leave the thread at your earliest convenience
>>98816636Bear cavalry was cool in the 2000s because it was a rare elite unit consisting of brown bears that looked like the Eurasian brown bear that lives in the Slavic/eastern regions Kislev was inspired by. Ice bears and polar bears are fucking retarded. But the bigger issue isn't bear cavalry, its that Kislev has taken the aesthetic of a chinese mobile game
>>98816624literally ANY faction is better as a passion project anon. Most serious hobbyists have been doing custom armies to avoid the shitty mismatched ranges of empire, dwarfs, brets and many others for decades.
I hate that Kislev has lost its aesthetic and SOVL all because the UK is a hyper politically correct liberal hellscape and government use the goy beam to tell GW they had to "de-russify" Kislev. It's a shame that a thousand years of based Russian history has been dissolved because western governments don't like Putler Politicals have no place in wargaming
>>98816669But my passion project IS a huge collection of mismatched dwarfs in all sort of styles, from all sort of manufacturers, sculpted by all sort of people.
>>98816636Most people don't know this, but Kislev's Bear Cavalry was already a thing since the late 90's for Fantasy Battles; CA didn't invent them.
>>98814599A regiment of Shaolin monks or Big Swords/Do-or-Die squad would add some colour to a rather plain jane boring and generic army roster, not to mention leaning towards the more army specific model/unit
>>98816690Anon your image had never had anything to do with kislevs aesthetic. It was always baba yaga and the ice queen and vodka.
>>98816204Looking good homie. Is that 100% geedubs kit or is there something else in there? Don't recognise the helmet but maybe im just dumb
>>98816720Massive difference between a single unit of Bear Calvary (that was rare-ish in lore) and Bears being shoved into just about every role in the roster. Same with Ice Magic getting shoved everywhere.It's like if the Empire got rid of 90% of their horses across the roster and replaced them with Demigryphs.
>>98816740Yes, it's all from the KotR kit.
>>98816747*cavalryGoddamnit
Kislev was never a particularly interesting concept in the first place.
Chimney smoke a cool effect or is it too much?
>>98816773not falling for it perry
I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this but, I saw some games are discounted on Steam.Any of those a good place to start with someone who only see Warhammer memes? I was thinking of starting with Dawn of War but it might be okay to start with the current discounted ones.
>>98816794>I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask thisno, fuck off back to /v/
When people speak of Kislev, and of a main source to tackle the faction, it's mainly RotIQ, 6ed. Kislev supplement, or Total Warhammer 3. I've never read a person mention Kislev - The Claws of the Great Bear; a series of magazine articles, created by Tuomas Pirinen, which by their own right (imo) could have been compiled into a supplement book (like 4ed. Chorfs).
>>98814780Night of Blood is ok, I ran a modified version of it, never ran it raw.Khazrak might be involed, but controlling in the shadow, have the Beastlord invovled carrying a strange banner no one ever saw perhaps?You can have the miracle wheat havign been grown for years (7th year?) now, only the current crop is getting affected and causing trouble, many cults have long term planning done after all.Overall looks like a good campaign plan
>>98816773Looks good, it gives the impression the houses are lived in, instead of being an abandonned place.
>>98816773Why don't Warhammer tables look like this?
>>98816794for 40k Dawn of War 1, Winter Assault and the Necron one (Dark Crusade?)DoW2, 3 and 4 are compeltely different game, more a squad management game than RTSFor Fantasy, ignore TWW, too big to show off the Old World. Get Mark of Chaos, the ambiance, cutscenes and units are quite Warhammer-esque, not yet 'tainted' by modern sentiment.
>>98816813Thanks, I thought so too >>98816816This is a Warhammer table >>98816777Falling for what?
>>98816816Because that table is terrible for actually playing warhammer. >>98816833It very clearly isnt.
>>98816871Why?
>>98816833I love this vignette. Makes me imagine a peaceful day in the village, everyone completely unaware of a skaven or undead attack about to change their lives forever
>>98816639>still sculpting by handI don't really care if they used some machine assisted design or did it all by hand just care that the end model is good. Wish we had more third parties making proper proxies though and wish perry would give a go at it for fantasy again. tfw I'll never find someone to play something Napoleonic with.
>>98816914I've never seen CADslop models that look better than hand sculpted models. It's like something gets lost, something the machine can't replicate. I hate to use the term "sovl" but it seems like sculpting digitally makes it impossible to enshrine the model with a soul. Similar to how it doesn't matter how lifelike AI robots might become someday like on Bladerunner, they still lack a God given soul. They are essentially golems, looks the same as a man but it's missing something important.
CAD sculpting allows you to add an excessive level of detail that you can never achieve with traditional sculpting. The temptation to over detail models and create impossible poses is simply too intoxicating and no one can see to resist it. Literally every CAD model every created is too busy and invariably looks like shit
>>98816941I don't agree but I do think 100% its important for the person making the CAD to be a solid sculptor a great example would be Victoria miniatures imo as they use cad but she is also an extremely good sculptor.>>98816948I do see this as an issue, those new tomb king infantry for example now need for them to be so done up but not really CADs fault more an issue with the designers and design philosophy (I don't see it going away though people love their over the top shit)
>>98816914>tfw I'll never find someone to play something Napoleonic withI used to think that too but napoleonic players are literally everywhere. They just play in clubs, which usually meet at some lawyers personal home wargaming room instead of playing with strangers at an LGS. You just have to know where to look to find your local club and then reach out.
>>98816810My vision is that the Nurgle cult gets away with it. How do you track something from seven years ago? Maybe they kill an agent of the group but these things are like the Purple Hand; too big to kill, too connected to unravel. My vision of the endgame is either going to Kislev or Stirland to appropriate grain before a crisis sets in. I figure those places didn't get the miracle crop because they’re shitholes. Kislev would end in fighting trolls and Chaos up north while Stirland would be Necromancers - I’ve got this lovely vision of a Necrofex colossus made out of a windmill, with the giant milling stone repurposed into the thing’s right hand. Such fancy is beyond what I should be concerned with, any good GM knows the effort should be on the next 5 sessions, not the next 20. I’ve soured too many campaigns on being too forward thinking - like Kairos, if we roll back to the conversation at hand!Anyway, the Gotrek and Felix omnibus is good.
>>98816959I should note victoria mini uses both hand sculpted and CAD (scan and then refine add detail) I wish there was a old world style version of them that made good minis>>98816971I'll search around but I might have to go over to bongland for it since this stuff is not popular over here.
>>98816941That's not CADs fault. CAD just makes making miniatures easier, so retarded art directors decide to cram a ton of unnecessary details or put ridiculous poses on them. It's also easy to make small heads and hands so models move away from the heroic scale bc that makes them look so much more modern. This literally sucks the sovl away from them, yes. But it's not CAD's fault, there's a retarded human behind every one of these decisions
>>98816990What country in you in? Depending on which I might be able to tell you where to look. A lot of countries have historical parent organizations that clubs are part of so it's easier to network and find each other
>>98816998Ireland, thanks I'd appreciate that.
>>98816993CAD moved the art away from the hands of the artist and into the hands of the tech nerd autism type. This is the root of the problem. >moving away from heroic scale sucks away SOVL Not necessarily. All of Paul Hicks sculpts are not heroic and are picked with SOVL, for example.
>>98817003Hmm sorry I can't help with Ireland. What I would do personally is use the contact form on the British Historical Games Society website and ask them if they know any groups or organizations in Ireland.
>>98816878Do you think units (even without trays fit on those streets)? Do you think those doorways and alleys allow for rank and flank combat (or that units can even pass through them)? Do you think LOS is reasonable on that board? Do you think movement trays go well on textured fields? Its a good looking board, but it is a nightmare to use for warhammer due to practical issues, it simply does not physically function for a game of WHFB (because it was not built for WHFB). Could be cool for mordheim though.
>>98817026Thanks I'll try that!
>>98817027Yes to all.
>>98815693Are they going out of their way to see how few miniatures they can put in a launch box?
>>98815693don't love it, though the cannon (minus the crew) looks good enough.Also glad to see a banner and a musician always. >125 GBP OOOF
>>98816089>>98816077
>>98817007I hate that the RTO/radioman is obsolete with modern tech. The giant antenna and backpack was so cool
SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE WHY ARENT YOU PLAYING A SIEGE?
>>98817148Natural selection got to them
>>98817157Because I'm waiting for that rumored fortress remake coming out next year to be real then I'll buy one and play siege.
>>98817263STLs exist for it right now. Why not just buy a 3d printer and print it out? This would probably cost less than buying it from GW and you can make it as big as you want
>>98817263>>98817277Why hyperfixate on the Warhammer fortress at all when there are countless castles available, many better than the simplistic Styrofoam GW one ?
>>98811478I think the average of 2 character models per faction is not enough. there needs to be more (preferably in plastic).
>>98817315Hell, just scratch build a custom one that only your table will ever see and will be the envy of all
>>98817367No. Named characters are stupid and gay. This isn't 40k or AoS. Make your own characters.
>>98817315That's just one of those Warhammerism, where everything has to be an officially licensed products, or officially approved way of playing, etc.
>>98817381Such cuckold behavior
>>98817377You don’t use a kitbashed model as a counts as for your named characters?
Is that how you justify being too poor to afford official releases and having to resort to buying cheap crappy third party trash or 3d printed chinesium, faggot?
>>98817571You said the meme
>>98816981Stirland could be nice, or Averland, both are pretty heavy on farming, that windmill monster's also pretty decent idea, not something you see everyday, much less in warhammer, but it fits the setting, maybe have it burning as it move, wickerman style, just necromantic blueish flames
>>98817571>you don't want to buy overpriced low quality slop? What are you, poor? Anon, come on..
>>98817157My last game was a siege game. Final battle in our summer campaign.There's rules from 3rd, 5th, 6th snd 8th edition for sieges. But the truth is that warhammer as a game does not lend itself too well for sieges.Siege games are more aspirationally fun than actually fun. It requires the right people and tons of preparation and the game itself ends up being very clunky, drag out and very anticlimactic.I mean, they can still be fun, but it's not something you can improvise, visuals are half the enjoyment so it really needs fully painted armies and terrain. The best version of warhammer siege in my opinion is the 8th ed one because it's the one that best integrates the siege into the regular rules of the game. It sucks I can't share PDFs cause i have the rules ready to be shared.
>>98817027NTA, but really you just set your roads to be 5 wide, you can have standard infantry blocks move at rank minimum, and city fights are closer, bloody affairs. Skirmishers would work much better, and would allow them to be much more mobile. The Tactical challanges are there
I was expected TOW to have less tech than WFB. Like, they've just been on blackpowder guns for centuries? Seems kinda sad
>>98817367Named characters are optional at best and cancer to sell overpriced centerpieces at worse. Fuck named characters, make /yourdudes/.
>98817571I’ll sell you a plate of my shit for twenty bucks. What are you? Too poor to buy it? What a faggot
>>98817537I don't use named characters at all. I come up with my own using the rules provided to me.
>>98817692Mordheim is set 250 years before even the old world and has pretty much the exact tech level.The Warhammer world was always technologically stagnant.
>>98816461>he's still madkek
>>98817806I think the lore writers are just intellectually stagnant
>>98817936well yeah, its warhammer.
>>98817157Waiting for Pillage siege.
>>98815737Would.
>>98818013She's literally the only good figure in the damn range.
>>98817692Because there's so muhc constant Wars, raiding the forests and alnds are not secure, that you can't really get enough stability for higher technology to be developped. worst case it's a single prototype some engineer cooked up in a barn, of which no one accepted since it's too crazy, dangerous or costy.
>>98818182Warfare is what drives technological innovation in weaponry..
>>98818188Yeah, but why make a bolt action when you got a Wizard, or a hellblaster? Would a bolt aciton be good agasint a Bray-shaman making critters coming from the ground and kill your men? Still need food and economy being strong, when beastmen raid your grain and robbers steal your gold, you don't want to pay some guy to draw a nice weapon, you want your people fed and your gold returned, or else you're next.
>>98816773Cool historical village, not a Warhammer village tho. Where are the baroque buildings with skulls, twin tailed comets, and other imperial iconography? But most importantly, where are the walls? With the exceptions of some hamlets and homesteads nearly every empire settlements have walls, why? Becuase of the myriad of threats surrounding them in the forest. Even coaching inns have walls for fucks sake! So until you post a proper settlement befitting the Empire I am (and presumably most sane Anons here) not interested in your vane attempt at shitposting.
>>98818203Shit I hadn’t considered those when I was making my tavern. Would a palisade be enough you think?
>>98818208If you post your WIP tavern with a timestamp you can you have my opinion on the matter.
>>98818199>Would a bolt aciton be good agasintIt would be better than a black powder gun, yes.
>>98818241Dop you know the logisitical chain required just to make, much less supply the rifle with ammunition? There is no industiral revolution, hence why everything is black powder made by hand, best case getting standertize stocks and construction, but stiull all hand, no 'modern' (1700s) industrial power.
The Empire has bolt action rifles or at least a prototype, it’s called the Hochland longrifle.
Does "The Empire" really not have a real name? Like the empire of what? It's like if Bretonnia called itself "The Kingdom".
>>98817692Yeah, it's normal fantasy stasis, but instead of stopping right before they get gunpowder, they stop right after. At least it's not a retcon, the Steamtank was built hundreds of years ago. Although they have and will continue to retcon things without care. Pretty sure the dwarf axe throwing thing is supposed to be a later invention. If Skaven ever come back they'll have to retcon half their shit, as most of their iconic weapons have were invented by Ikkit, and have dates for their invention in the 6th edition army book, most of them being invented after the great war.Semi related I think it would be cool that if when they refresh State Troops they went back to the old 6th matchlocks for the guns instead of the wheellocks that the later plastics have. That would be a cool detail, but sadly that would need someone at GW to have a IQ above room temperature.
>>98818303I thought the reason for the stagnant technology was the retarded, red-headed stepchildren of chaos, or beastmen keep the empire in a constant low level conflict that makes trade and peaceful development really difficult.
>>98818317That might be GW's hand wave excuse, but I don't buy it. Nuln is a big city with a whole engineer academy that goes back centuries, and it's only been sacked a few times that we know of. Have the other major cities even been sacked? I don't recall Altdorf ever falling, and Talabheim and Middenheim are both incredibly fortified. The small villages in the forest and boarder towns might get destroyed often enough, but there are large areas that are mostly peaceful outside of active chaos/ork invasions. There are people in parts of the Empire that don't even believe Beastmen are real, and think it's just rural peasant myths. If Beastmen were enough to keep them stagnant then they would of never even got to guns in the first place. Leonardo founded the engineer academy right in the middle of this civil war period, so while the Empire was in it's literal worst state possible it was actively advancing.
>>98818281It's the Empire of Man.
>>98817003>Fellow IrishWe're everywhere. Are you a culchy?
>>98818013Based dwarf fucker.>>98818089Come on now anon. The cannon and boat are great, so are all the characters.
>>98818485I legit forgot because that's so dumb. Doesn't even have half the human population in the Old World, let alone the planet. Plus is multi racial as well. Might as well call it The Empire of Some Men, and Most Halflings and Some Dwarfs, and A Few Elves, Orgres and Maybe a Giant or Two.
>>98818824When Sigmar founded the Empire united like around 2/3 of a continent of humans, and at the time the tribes living the what is now the Empire didn’t know about many more tribes. Perhaps about the tribes go the west and north east, but can’t imagine they knew about the people of Araby, Tilea, Estalia, etcIf you don’t like it you don’t have to engage with the game or the setting. No one is forcing you to be here.
>>98818520>Are you a culchyyes, thank God I am not in dirty dub. Downside is no real gaming community here or even in Galway city the game stores are mank.
>>98818889>game stores mankWell shit, the places I am at its shockingly well maintained. Nothing wrong being far from a game store though, let me tell you. Was playing 1-2 games per week and now im burnt out hard. Still, din't even know Galway had a gaming store.
>>98818899They are nice enough people there but if you aren't interested in mtg or stale "fancy" donuts there isn't really anything going for it.
>>98817675>but really you just set your roads to be 5 wideWhich would still be largely shit for the game ("yea so anyways only msu 25mm infantry can use this board, everyone else play over there"). But is also not the case here, these spaces are clearly not five wide. You are not fitting 125mm through that gate house.You are not turning a unit of 20 infantry through that crossroads (or hell, I doubt youre fitting them onto that street). Its a map made for skirmishing, in other words "not warhammer fantasy". Its a mordheim map at best.
>>98816990You should note that your information is outdated, picrel is from her recent run of kickstarters which are all about redoing her Regiments line in modern proportions using digital sculpting, they are distributed as STLs or print-on-demand.Vic certainly got her start as a physical sculptor, but so did plenty of people who now sculpt digitally and produce heinous garbage, which was anon's point: every medium has issues, and a sculptor is either bad or good. All that's changed is the same thing that's changed with all creative professions: the internet lowered the barrier of entry to *publishing* your work so far that it's now the chore of the end user to wade through the 90% of anything that is trashslop to find the 10% decent stuff instead of some luckless management goober at a company somewhere.And there are plenty of good-to-okay not-WHFB sculptors out there; Vae Victis(modern work, their back catalogue does have a few stinkers), Reptilian Overlord, Monstrous Encounters if you like the Middlehammer aesthetic, Old Realm Forge if you fancy Oldhammer Dwarfs & Greenskins, Longsnouts for Bonner-esque Orcs, even some of Highlands' stuff isn't terrible. At the end of the day if you want to step outside the GW bubble you need to be willing to put in at least a little effort to find alternatives, and just chucking a bunch of keywords into Cults3D & MyMiniFactor and spending a while browsing through the results is hardly toiling down t'pit is it.
>>98816807As you know those articles were released on Citadel Journal so, unlike 4th edition Chorfs or 6th edition Kislev, 5th ed. Kislev did not have the notoriety or benefits that WD articles had.Which is a shame I think, because Pirinen did an excellent work expanding Kislev, using what was already there for 4th ed. and using further Russian inspirations on top of it.4 years later, GW & WD would make a lot of Pirinen's additions irrelevant.
>>98819018what picrel?
>>98818568NTA but>cannonShoots rocks which is stupid>boatProbably the dumbest thing I’ve ever seenMost of the “troop” units besides the herthkyn womyn come close to hitting the mark but fall short through some kind of stupid detail I don’t like. They’ve managed to flanderize dwarfs (rock and stone!!!1!!1) moreso than they already had done previously since engineers and slayers are different factions for some reason.The only thing I like are the golems.
>>98819071I'll take rune and rock magic over apache gyrocopters any fucking day.
>>98819071>They’ve managed to flanderize dwarfs>NTA>NTANTAthey kind of didnt do this actually by playing into evoking the ancestor gods. I really like the crew men, Honestly if they went full avatar I might have liked them. Dwarfs should also be in skirts by mandate.
>>98819071I think you just don't like dwarfs or fantasy concepts in the first place.
>>98819100Its one of the armies I collect. I love dwarfs, I just don’t like what AoS has done with them very much.
>>98819096I also don’t like gyrocopters, which is why I don’t use them.
>>98817377>>98817705You're both wrong. Named characters are AWESOME, and have always been since prior editions. Nothing should nor would stop you from making your own custom characters. But named characters are also important, not just to narrative games but to the setting as a whole. Especially for this setting, since TOW has been working more like a sandbox, with its stories being an afterthought; quite unlike previous Fantasy editions.
>>98817377but whfb had named characters 20 years before AoS was even created
>>98815870>>98816492>>98817059To be fair it's a spearhead + tome, it's smaller and cheaper than the usual army sets. Same thing with the chorf army set from last year.Problem is that they put the battletome in there which fucks the value since gw made them overpriced as fuck (£40 now). So technically it's a good discount but in reality it's only barely better than buying everything separately if you don't care about the tome. Which you shouldn't to begin with but even more so in this case as 4th edition is about to end.
>>98819427Trying to argue anything by GW is a “good value” is a moot point. But AoS is especially bad.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/k2y7ynx8/new-skeleton-horsemen-thunder-into-the-old-world/new skelly horses for the old world.
>>98819511I feel like the "relatively speaking" goes without saying when discussing gw deals
>>98819603Still don't like kangs having normal cavalry instead of relying exclusively on chariots, but I guess you can turn these into generic non-egyptian skeleton riders with very minimal kitbashes
>>98819603Not bad I guess but I would never want to run regular cav in my TK. Just feels wrong.
>>98819071>flanderizeIsn't the no wood shit from 8th edition? If anything it's slightly less flanderized because being geomancers now there's at least a little bit of justification for that retarded piece of lore.>slayers are different factionThe dragon slayers are being merged into this new faction. Though I think the steampunk ones are still separate.
>>98819651>The dragon slayers are being merged into this new faction. Though I think the steampunk ones are still separate.They're being squatted slowly and souped into their book but they're still their own civilization.
>>98817649Y'know, Averland might be a good choice. When I ran Enemy Within, our Kastor Lieberung was from Averland, and the Changeling stole his face to take up politics. This might be exactly the sort of long-term scheme that the Changeling would do do rise through political office.
>>98819621>Still don't like kangs having normal cavalryThey were impressed by superior Cathayan military doctrine and sought to emulate it as best they could.
>>98819683To be fair that at least explains why characters would be riding mounts. The actual unit were always explained to be desert nomads and such absorbed into the nehekharan empire. Auxiliaries basically.
>>98819603tomb kings are so sexy, holy shit
>>98819683how common was contact with elves? you would think elven colonisers across the seas of the world would be a more pervasive presence than northern barbarians and isolationists of the far east
>>98819700das rite
>>98819704>isolationists of the far eastthey are not. they import and export goods and culture to (living) nehekhara and the old world. they had strong ties to the first.
>>98818568The weapons are a bit too chunky, but you could probably chop off the axe heads and hammers and replace them with something more reasonable.
>>98819683Wasn't there old lore about some firearms coming over to Nehekhara from Cathay?
>>98819742something from the nagash trilogy I think, but that was weird for multiple reasons I'm told it definitely was just novelties trading, not a wide adoption of techs and cultures though
>>98819741Is that the dwarf princess from Dragon Commander?The lack of shortstack options in gaming is a crime. No wonder the creator of DnD was a coomer. Be the change you want to see.
>>98819786>The lack of shortstack options in gaming is a crime. No wonder the creator of DnD was a coomer. Be the change you want to see.Warhammer Fantasy would make it dangerous for shortstack enjoyers because Halfling women also come with built-in cuckoldry. They basically fuck everyone and anyone, they have no concept of property. Dwarf women would be really funny because the severe gender imbalance of Dwarven society means any Umgi with a Dwarf-wife would get a ton of angry Dwarven incels on their ass.
>>98819603>dual kitoh thank god, such an easy sell for royal hosts too.
>>98819763Would be fun if we got a named character with a firearm though
>>98819811>the shame behind 90% of female dwarf slayers was becoming addicted to BHC
>>98819742>>98819763Lamashizzar imported "dragon powder" from Grand Cathay and used it to turn the tide against Nagash in the battle of Mahrak. Fast forward a few hundred years to around the time when Lahmia fell, it seemed Lahmia was still the only city that traded with Cathay for firearms, and the rest of Nehekhara had not been able to figure out how to produce it themselves. And the size of Lahmia's stockpiles was a guarded secret. So firearm proliferation was definitely not a widespread thing at any point in Nehekhara's history.Makes a bit of sense, out of all the cities, only Lahmia and Lybaras were even situated to have trade fleets in the east, and as the smaller and less wealthy city Lybaras might not have been the obvious port to peddle goods in.
>>98819833Is Lybaras really just a thinly-veiled lesbianism pun.
>>98819836>thinly-veiled [...] pun.like many things in warhammer
>>98819786No, it's an OC, we lack dwarf waifus because of a fag in Baldur's Gate 2 dev team and Warhammer women sadly aren't good looking (and it's not DEI, they were always like that) with usually being short fat and potato faced - just like their men. >>98819811A halfling woman would be a good bed warmer to pass around in an adventuring party.
>>98819603>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/k2y7ynx8/new-skeleton-horsemen-thunder-into-the-old-world/What type of Shield are they using?Aepis shields or something else?
>>98819829It wouldn't be my cup of tea, best I can accept would be a special character inspired by these fags with bombs from 300>mortuary cultist who's a failure at making life elixirs but instead accidentally unlocks the branch of alchemy about explosives>becomes infamous all through nehekhara for using the bombs for mining operations, more or less controlled demolitions, and a few assassinations>something something helped nagash build his lairs so fast something something
>>98819603They lack the charm of the originals. I will say it and probably be flamed for doing so. I do not regret it. Mantic looking nonsense.
>>98819977To be fair mantic looks way fucking worse in every way
>>98819990They have the same look to them, imo. As someone who owns a bunch of the Empire of Dust minis. Also their Elves.
>>98819977>Mantic looking nonsense.You need to get your fucking eyes checked.
>>98820001You might be legally blind, I'd rec you get checked by a doctor.
>>98818188Go read the ademch page on 1d6chan. You run out of stuff to try out/research without it being detrimental to your war effort if the wars are too constant without reprieve.
>>98818303Wben TOW was being announced (and they were still pretending it was going to be about the imperial civil war) they specifically mentioned that they wouldn't be focusing on having different looking handguns
>>98818303Pretty sure the only late inventions by skaven were the doomwheel and the stormfiends.
>>98819603I still just don’t care for them. They’re a little bit too unnecessary over designed too. Oh well one day a tow release will interest me.
>>98820055Cool blog, where do I unsubscribe?
>>98820075By taking one too many sleeping pills.
You know what, I'm going to say it.I don't love TOW enlarging Reikland to the south at the expense of Wissenland.
>>98819882kangs in 3 weeks then?
>>98819742There were cathayan mercenaries with guns used during the nagash trilogy.
>>98819741>>98819786>>98819811>>98819830Disgusting. Alll dwarf women should be as hideous and repulsive as dwarf men.
those shields are going to get knocked off the models.
>>98820227try using glue
>>98820055Maybe you should just kill yourself
>>98819683There's totally isn't a chinese plant in the DEI team.
>>98820366Can’t. Need to see everything I care for to either be completely enshittified or raped first
>>98820379Going by the recent interview with the writer doing that Cathay Bl book, we know Black Library has sensitivity readers specifically on Chinese culture, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had a say on what got added to the Cathay lore in the AJ either
>>98817367Updated the image. Don't think I missed any model.
>>98820428no need to count miao twicealternatively it would be funny if galrauch had two boxes, one for each head
>>98820428O&G had two characters in their AJ the other one was the Goblin Wolf riding War Chief, he doesn't have a model.
>>98820428Named characters are for unimaginative faggots.
>>98820189>Alll dwarf women should be as hideous and repulsive as dwarf men.Sorry, the books confirm that Dwarven women are immediately identifiable as female and aren't described as ugly. The drawback with a dwarf-wife shouldn't be that they're ugly, but that marrying one is a huge "issue" in society and opens you up to bullshit in the same way being 6'5 at a bar paints a target on your back for every manlet looking to prove something.
>>98820428Named characters are based, help modify your army, add narrative importance to the battle and unlike what some fags think they don't stop your from fielding /yourguys/
>>98820458>MiaoIt's a conjoined entry, hence why the two images are attached together; same character with two models, and two base sizes.>spoilerLel, I did wonder how both heads could be shown. Maybe.>>98820469Oh yeah, Kiknik Toofsnatcha. Forgot about him.>>98820542No you.>>98820664I fully agree. In fact, it can even be enriching for a possible narrative when /yourdudes/ fight together with the named ones.
This general fucking sucks if we’re being dead ass about named heros being a good thing. I’ll fuck back off to HH I guess at least that games actually good.
>>98820756It is Nu40k mentality. Next you know people will be demanding expensive, named character centerpieces and turning TOW into 11th edition. Why make /yourdudes/ when you can just take an OP named character that your AI assistant tells you to pick?
>newfags crying about named characters>in warhammer fucking FANTASYMaybe old world bring in new people wasn't such a good thing.
How about we post our own characters to wrap up the thread.
>>98820868If the character doesn’t have the vibes of pic related then I don’t want it.
Any compfags that can give some advice on screening with chaff units?If an opponent charges your weak units they can overrun or pursue into your main unit behind it. And if the opponent doesn't take the bait your weak units are now blocking your actual good units.What's the best way to use them?
>>98820050Ratling guns, and the warp lightning Cannon. Those and the Doomwheel are pretty much some of their most iconic stuff. Also the Plague Claw Catapult. They already had catapults, but Skyrer helped make them better.
>>98820868"Noooo, I NEED BORIS TODBRINGER, KARL FRANZ AND THE REST OF THE ELECTOR COUNTS IN MY EMPIRE ARMY FOR THOSE SICK FANTASY STRATAGEMS AND SPECIAL RULES! I CAN'T RUN A HAND CRAFTED, UNNAMED CHARACTER! NO! NO! NO!"
>>98820924Yes, I need them
>>98820948Maybe try playing Ultramarines in /40kg/?
>>98820897Move them just enough to give your rear unit around 50% line of sight. That way, if the opponent refuses to take the bait, double charge.
>>98820881Here’s my shaman, still working on a name for him but he’s all about soiling crops with pests and disease before the rest of the warherd descends, usually in late fall/early winter. Working on the beastlord now!
>>98820103This also inflames my autism, but I think having constant stagnant boarders during an age of civil war would also annoy me. I think part of it is you never know what's a change on purpose, vs what was done out of pure ignorance. Like did they know Eilhart is part of Reikland? I would guess they do, but it's placement looks a bit off, it looks like they put it on the confluence of the Schilder and Reik when it should be farther upstream. Also I don't know shit about Sudenland, but given it's a Sollander movement it bugs me that they have all the land west of the river Sol, which I assume is the traditional land of Wissenland. I don't know though, are Sollanders ever a thing anymore, do they even have a cultural identity, or is it just larping nobles who are using it as an excuse to grab land? When reading Sigmars Heirs I just remember it talking about the whole area of Wissenland/Solland as monolithic Wissenanders.
>>98820428This pic gives light to another matter of concern. Right now the Forces of Fantasy/"Good Guys" have 6 factions, whilst the Ravening Hordes/"Bad Guys" have only 4. Well. How will/should GW balance this out?
>>98821017They wont.
>>98819603The sloppification of WFB continues. I knew TOW would be a monkey paw situation.
>>98821017By adding another good faction
>>98821001Look pretty dope Anon. Maybe you can have his last name/title be something about spoilage, rot or dark omens? Examples: Pestbray, Grainblight, Ale-Spoiler, Crowhorn, etc
>>98821027By all means, tell me why I shouldn't think these dudes look good.
>>98821120The fact he didn't name anything is a key sign he's just trolling. Nothing to criticize so he just keeps it vague.Don't feed the trolls.
>>98821060I actually love Ale-Spoiler and Crowhorn. I think I’m gonna work off of one of those, thanks!
>>98821027I think your shitposting, the Tombking stuff has all been good. Chaos stuff was good too. The fact that the Bretonnian Foot Knights were designed, approved and released still leaves me traumatized though, so I'm still anxious about any Empire or Bretonnian releases in the works. Since thoughs factions are routed in history and realism I feel like they're the easiest for GW to fuck up.
>>98821162They're overdetailed just like everything nuGW does. They lack the charm and correct vibe for WFB. But I guess this is TOW now, not WFB, a wholly sloppified nuGW property with oversized centerpiece models and bad digital sculpting.And just FYI, people don't need to give specifics in order to not be "trolling." Enjoy your $0.01 from Nottingham, though, fagnode.
>>98820924Buckbroken by facts and logic.
>>98821196Its just the usual shitposter trying to bring down the thread
>>98821196I get the feeling they were made when TOW was a nobody-cares project inside GW and the diversity hire got assigned a project they didn't care about. Everything post release has been really good.
>>98820924“Here’s my custom kitbashed general. He’s a proxy for Karl Franz.”Wow that’s so hard. Pic is the rogue idol I use in place of Kragnos in AoS
We love our half-blind druidesses, our peglegged dwarfs, and our Nordlanders with slashed sleeves and conspicuous codpieces, don't we, folks?
>>98820920I don't think ikit invented those.The mark of chaos game let skaven have the cannons, and that game was set shortly after the great war.
>>98821383Holy shit, that looks amazing!
>>98821393...are you disappointed you don't have niggers and she-warriors to shitpost about? is that we've come to now?
>>98821404Mark of Chaos is a great game. I love duelling with the different heroes. Its like its own sub game within a game. The Chaos champions though are busted though, chugging out 4-6 damage per hit with Curse of Chaos procced. Warboss is still my favourite though abd can win with well timed headbutts.
>>98821370I wouldnt call it good. Just inoffensive. To me its just straight up boring, but idk I dont worship GW enough to delude myself to seeing the kits as anything more than they are. Maybe them being largely the same thing is a good thing, but I havent seen something that has been really worth what they have replaced. The chaos knights however are such an offensive replacement that genuinely bothers me.
>>98821393I look like this and say this
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>>98821232It's very odd you'd post that image, when the new skeletons look more like it than the old ones do?
>>98821641>>98821641>>98821641>>98821641>>98821641New
>>98821642>page 7
>>98821481>>98821492It's crazy coming back to this board and the GW internet defense force always comes in a pair. Like they're sitting there in Nottingham at the social media desk. "Ah, we must counter-signal all criticism." Sad.
>>98821393When is this meant to come out?
>>98820590>he books confirm that Dwarven women are immediately identifiable as female and aren't described as uglyThe depiction the male dwarfs made of their women begs to differ.
>legendary lord on a dragon>25 funny moneyDamn, people had it good back then.
>>98825243I like necrarchsI like how they're basically mage-maxxing little creeps
>>98821120I like em,Perfectly good refesh, good stuffAnyone who whines about these is a bad faith actor or a little poopypants bitch
>>98820664NahI would rather have a more in depth custom character maker than see named characters Im happy for named characters to have models, I just dont think they should need custom rules beyond say character maker
