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>>98818015>How do your /guys/ travel the galaxy?The rape train
>>98818015>TQThey dont, they are gsc
I'll cleanse this thread with model posting. Post what you are working on.
>>98818022The Wolves are just one of those chapters that have such a virile aura about them, tough to emulate and even harder to replicate.
I’m jerking my tiny white pecker and watching Horus Heresy lore vids. What’s everyone else doing
>>98818025What's the lore behind wolves not having armour on their arms, are they just that dumb?
>>98818025Kino bambino anon, you’re regularly killing it here.
Guess who just bought an official, real somehow not a scam Hound pack Lance battleforce for only $160+$20(shipping)
>>98818027>so butthurt about how the previous thread went he's now samefaggingCringe
>>98818022>literally have statues of winged wolvesThese fags are somehow more cringe than even transfemarine homebrew chapters, it's honestly quite impressive
>>98818025I'm working on painting my sisters tanks for a game on tuesday
>>98818031Really just old design choices. They have always been non practical marines. This model is way too busy though.
>>98818036Cheyenne would never do that, she has taste.
>>98818036guess who fucks dogs in warhammer 40k.
>>98818037>t.femanon
>>98818046Blacked Templars
>>98818025Hello fellow ausfag
>>98818040>non practical means leaving your arms exposed in meleeAlso "non practical" is such an awkward way to word it lmao
>>98818025Is that a scout or Space Wolf Kill team?
>>98818051You’re a faggot xeno main so what exactly would you know?
The war is lostThe treaty signed
>>98818053>runs out of argument>goes for personal attack>gets it wrongReal matching energy vibes here
>>98818015They are super ultra special and ride through space on the back of mighty wolves.
>>98818051>mandolls aren't realistic Am I meant to be shocked?
>>98818054It's soulless but marginally better than blank MDF Ls I guess.
>>98818064I'm all for bare heads to show some character, bare arms are a bit weird to me unless it's CHAYOSS
>>98818025Finished sculpting the flames on the lotd dread. Once the putty cures gonna prime and start painting him.
>>98818068That is not what you're attempting to do.
>40k defilers out of stock at msrp for more than half a year, ever since it came out>price hike comes along anyways>honestly there might be 2-5 more prices hikes anyways with how long defilers are going to take to get back in stock that it might hit scalper prices anywaysI fucking hate GW.
>>98818072That's fair, it's the only SW model with bare arms (no I do not count gods mistake) and its a kill team. I didn't mind it.
>>98818077It is but nice try, just post models
>>98818025WIP to add to this collection10 man crusader squad10 man assault intercessor5 assault terminators
>>98818015they don't right now. Stranded on an imperial planet.But it was by Hivehsip
>>98818015This is what White Scars should be.
>>98818054I don't see what the big deal is. Pre-painted terrain has been a thing in the wargaming product space for ages.I'm surprised its taken GW so long to do their own for warhammer.
>>98818068Lmao trash
>>98818087Haven't seen you post in a while nidbro
>>98818053He's just a queenslander anon give him a break
>>98818054>pre-painted is... le bad!Why? Worked great for X-Wing.
>>98818098Post models N
>>98818107Is this it, is the mutant finally having a stroke?
>>98818025A little progress every day
"How do I kill terminators" is the wrong question. You're not supposed to kill them. Your opponent spent 390 points on 10 assault termines before characters, another 100 on a fancy character.The correct question is "how do I tarpit them for a couple turns and neutralize 1/4th of my opponent's army so I can out score him?". Which is actually a much, much easier question.A lot of the points value cost of termies is in the fact that they're difficult to kill. So you're playing into their hands by warping your play or listbuilding around killing them. Make his expensive unit points inefficient by not killing them. Don't play the game he wants you to play. Make all those points he spent on defensive stat lines wasted by not even engaging with them. Park something that just hard to kill in front of them.Correctly using termies is the other way around. It's about not getting tarpit-ed and getting your points back or making them uncontested score the central objective for the entire game.
>>98818103Star Wars has a skirmish game? Who manufactures it?
>>98818110Is that metallic blue?
>>98818109I sure hope so.
>Get back to painting my ksons>Look in one box>20 rubrics, some characters, 5 termies, a rhino, 4 sekhetars>Okay>Box 2>Daemon prince proxy>MVB>2 Preds>Yeh>Box 3>10 more terminators and a termie sorcSomething tells me I may not need this may terminators
>>98818126>>98818109Dream on nomodels
>>98818133>nomodelsHow many collages have been made to make fun of you?
>>98818136Add all models meant to mock me and I still dwarf them, go to bed painlet-kun
>>98818115Just google shit my boy, there's too much ignorance here to educate and it's offtopic to this thread, I only brought X-Wing up as an example.
>>98818123Yes
>>98818142Someone posted a better painted space yiff ITT.
>>98818143>google it>its been out of production for yearsOh. So its nothing then.
>>98818142You dwarf many things with your weight.
>>98818151X-Wing and Armada are OOP yes. Legion is still active, if you had better googlefu you'd have noticed
>>98818148And? I love when a pack member posts a quality model. I’m talking about fake modelers outside of the pack. We mog you fake fags.
>>98818025finna prime and paint this model wish me luck lads !
>The only way to be a true modeller is to play the space yiffsI didn't think he could get any more cringe and delusional
>>98818162Nice
>>98818165im going to paint her burning a space wolf into a charred skeleton and post it here
>>98818167>herWho?
>>98818031It's like how Khârn flexes so hard that the armor on one of his arms pops off, but on both arms, because excess just ain't enough for the wolf wolf wolf wolf wolf wolf wolf wolves
>>98818161I do not like you. In fact I hate you.Don't ever drag me into you petty shitposts again.
>>98818169judith eruitha anon. she's a sisters of battle Epic hero.....this is her headless body (I paint heads separate)
In 12th edition, xenos and non-marine imperials will have to ask permission to attack marine players in the format "Please may I roll to attack your unit, sir".
>>98818178I can just imagine it...>brother! where have the arms of your sacred power armour gone?>I flex and they pop off! we sons of Russ are just so much stronger than Dorn's kin like you! *awoos*>oh battle brother... the Imperial Fists have bigger biceps from lugging around all our siege gear, don't make me laugh! we just have power armour adapted to be loose enough that it doesn't escape our smelly pits at the slightest movement ahaha>*sad awoo*
>>98818189I would've honestly thought that was the decalfag with how unbelievably gay that greentext was.
>>98818068Damn nice models anon
>>98818191Thank you anon, it's my masterpiece. Can't write marine shit without it being cringe.
>he's samefagging to compliment his models... Again
>>98818068
>>98818114>>Correctly using termies is the other way around. It's about not getting tarpit-ed and getting your points back or making them uncontested score the central objective for the entire game.This is how I play Termies as well. Just advance them to the central objective and sit on their asses. If my opponent decides to ignore them then fine by me. I play take and hold anyway.
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98818185wtf is wrong with your thumbnail
Why are SW and BA constantly dominating thread discourse, are they that dominate and impressive ??
>>98818215Yes
>just over a minute between posts
>>98818215Everyone is obsessed with a space wolf *player* and talks down on them to make him mad And Blood Angels are the objectively best chapter
>>98818227>normie pic/gif>look inside>IMG_You're so painfully obvious.
>>98818227And space wolf players suck red rocket dog dick just like their primarch.
>>98818229>t.nigorkgayfag
>>98818221Is that you again, detective?
>>98818230Try and type than again but this time without weeping uncontrollably
how do I beat spiky beakies?is we getting new model soon?
>>98818068Hey these are pretty nice! Go anon.
>>98818068Pathetic
>>98818227When ork players yell WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH at the top of their lungs, everyone smiles and nods and praises them for being such fun guys, but when I larp as my favorite faction everyone is like "skinning children alive is illegal" and "I'm calling the police"; it's unfair
Mods please remove the fraud posting
>>98818287Mods please fingerbang this man's asshole.
lol i posted the same screenshots of my models again!i am such a good models poster :)
>>98818287
The nomodels are reacting again../ignored
>>98818293It surely has to be a troll. I get some people are obsessed with huffing their own farts but he truly never gets compliments for posting them here, so why keep doing it if not to shitpost?
Do you guys get sick enjoyment off encouraging this retard?
>Big Mek Dakka Rig is apparently a character modelThat’s cool as hell. I feel like it’d be a better Warlord for a Freebootaz army than the regular Warboss.
>>98818025not painting anything atm but i'm playing a game tomorrow :D
the new amagedon kill team box is now open to pre-order in my local shop 5 mins agoshould I put order on one?
>>98818287Hellblasters?
>>98818298He's still getting attention, even if it's negative, which is obviously what he's after. Though you have to be pretty fucking mentally ill to get off of being insulted and berated.
>>98818287I don't know why the autists sperg out every time this army is posted. Very clean paintjob.
>>98818316He also has to reset his router each time he posts them so yeah, more effort than it's worth for the (You)s really. We've been over this before though, ignoring him doesn't make it stop.
>>98818287Besides the excessive decals, gay ass wolf heads, and the dude's rancid personality, is there anything actually wrong with these models? The paint's all in the right spots
>>98818320Whoops meant >>98818307
Why don’t space marines just steal xenos tech and not let anyone know
>>98818325Being able to apply at least three colors in two thin coats apiece is a very low bar to clear, so the "besides" stuff isn't as irrelevant as you imply it to be.
>>98818101Yeah, been out of the hobby for a bit. Busy with work, wife, kids and all that. But getting back to spare time again.
>>98818325>besides all these things that make the models shit is there anything else?yes alot of things>unfinished sloppy bases>random guady air brushed effects >completely different painting styles from obvious commission artists >thick choppy unthinned paint on several models>lack of detail painting on a ton of models>poor use of contrasts and shading
>built all my vanvets with metal pistols>Not an option anymoreNeat
Dog
>>98818325It's less obvious in the zoomed out big groups shots, but yes they're sloppy af. Look at the photo of the two knights posted earlier for a more clear example, here's a snippet. Check out the crazy overspray around the eyes (there's also "light glow" on things that aren't lights, like the smoke launchers on the tanks), the shoddy and inconsistent shading around the rivets and on that right arm. It's rushed slapchop at its ugliest, oh an al if you take a look the basing is all inconsistent too, his army are all running around different battlefields apparently
>>98818331There are space marines who do that, they're called "Deathwatch"the more broad-strokes answer is that most astartes are too literally xenophobic to pick up a gauss flayer or rail rifle or whatever and turn it against its makers; they would literally rather die with a bolter in their hands than sully themselves with xenotech
>>98818342>the GIANT seam on the leg with ZERO cleanup
>>98818331Why don't space marines just worship chaos and not let anyone know
>>98818346Ban evading AGAIN? How many slaps does it take to teach you a lesson.
>>98818342this shit fucking SUCKS
How fucking pathetic do you have to be to astroturf support for your own models?
>>98818356Look into a mirror you ugly freak
>>98818346Way to match his energy
>>98818358I don't do that, but thanks for confirming that it is in fact you.
>>98814569Really cool lore bro
>waiting for your codex to be a good army>inevitably waiting 2+ years minimum>decide to sell it all and continue to slander the edition
>>98818015>TQShortish distance (relatively) via standard voidship travel, though they're tinkering with the use of Webway gates/Warpgates to try and manage more precise intrusions.
>>98818335>>98818342Ohhh ok that makes sense thanks.>>98818333Man my one true dream is to clear the low bar without tripping over & eating shit. I'm in bed rn so I can't post my wips but they're... heh they're REALLY IN PROGRESS!
>>98818390Kys samefag
>>98818390This the anon with the Apple barrel berserkers?
>>98818204>Just advance them to the central objective and sit on their asses. If my opponent decides to ignore them then fine by me. I play take and hold anyway.Very much so. Anons always say the big slow thing can be ignored until you park it right on top of the most valuable objective.That said, full 10 terminators? Sounds like overkill>>98818114>Park something that just hard to kill in front of them.So, equal enemy terminators? Feels like regular Termies are viable by means of having a 4-shot storm bolter to scythe chaff with.
Energy is certainly being matched in this thread
>>98818391>Samefags blatantly >Starts calling others samefagsPathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
>>98818400He just parrots words and phrases he's seen on here. One could say his vocabulary and imagination are pretty, heh, LIMITED
>>98818400>>98818408>another samefag Absolutely abhorrent
>>98818377Your mistake is picking your army based on codex power. They're in constant flux. Pick an army based on minis and lore you like, thats what youre going to have long term.You'll have more fun in your games if you're not so focused on "must win with strong army". The power differential isn't that huge anyway. Plus as a new player expect to loose most of the time no matter what codex and once you're experienced codex choice doesn't matter much.
>>98818342>>98818342>Check out the crazy overspray around the eyes
>>98818428Fucking lol, saved for future use
>>98818428Heavy eye makeup is super sexy.
>>98818428>>98818431What is this the samefag general??
>>98818408>One could say his vocabulary and imagination are pretty, heh, LIMITEDMaybe he's just doing it to match our energy.
>>98818068Lmao
>>98818449Pathetic
>random decalsloppa shitpost gets more (You)s than any other modelpost in the past yearwow I wonder why he keeps coming back
>>98816164Probably why Warhammer Underworlds is still a thing while Warcry diedWarcry had like 1 playable warbandMeanwhile Underworlds models accepted as proxies for many aos units.Theres a Slaves to darkness warband that's a Chaos Lord and sorcerer in one sub$40 box
I don't understand why people come to the toy soldier thread on a dead website and spend literally 24 hours a day just shitting everywhere.
>>98818025takin an ork break and finally painting kantorjust gotta do metallics, shade him then the banner
>>98818322But it does make it much funnier.
>>98818433if you're a demon who's into Night Lord femboys, sure
>>98818468We've had periods of ignoring him before and he doesn't go away, he was even vacant from the thread for like a month or two towards the start of this year, nobody talked about him and it was blissful, but he still came back. Unfortunately if we do mass ignore him newbies will also come into the thread and inevitably reply.
>>98818206>Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98818370Thanks bro.Its a bit of fun to add the side to an army project.
>>98818206supporting this because the basedjak guy annoys me
>>98818342>not one but TWO eye of horuses on the knightAlways knew those damned space yiffs were traitors
>>98818493supporting this because he makes ratfag mad
>>98818531>he makes ratfag madProof? I've never seen ratfag reply.
>>98818377>wahhhh my shit isn't overpowered so im not going to play this editionThis is just modern gaming at this point
>>98818561What do you get out of playing this edition or any recent editon at all
>>98818570I enjoy it, i enjoy playing with my friends
>>98818427I got into my army purely on aesthetics and it turns out I like my models and hate the rules. Shame I'm too retarded to paint, so they've sat in storage for over a year now.>>98818561>waah I literally can't damage or interact with my opponent in any waySure is fun losing T0 in Yugioh, right?
>>98818570Why are you itt if you don't play?
Do you think custodes were always designed to be painted gold? I'm considering getting the new combat patrol to play with friends, models are aight, I hate the official paint scheme but the other 2 marginal paint schemes I see the most look even worse
>>98818583>Shame I'm too retarded to paint,You mean too lazy?
>>98818590>Do you think custodes were always designed to be painted gold?What does this mean?
>>98818589To seethe at Australians
>>98818593No shit, retard.
>>98818583No idea i dont play yugioh, but its a poor mindset to have regardless>>98818600Based, i seethe at them and im an ausfag myself
>>98818600Uh oh ausfailian melty
>>98818583What army?
Anyone here played kill team? Is it actually interesting?
>>98818729It is pretty fun, but the fact that your models have planned obsolescence for their rules kind of sucks.
>>98818737Oh, because they have rules changes every couple years? Why the hell do they do that anyway
Have FDM printer with PLA gotten good enough for warhammer yet or is resin poisoning the only option? Always been print hater but these GW prices are crazy.
>>98818741Yeah, eventually you have to buy a new kill team because they stop making rules for your old one. They do it because it prevents the problem of players not buying models once they've bought models.
>>98818747That doesn't really seem like a big deal; if you actually like Kill Team then you're going to end up spending the same or less money as you would on proper 40k, and if you don't then KT is still one of the best ways to source official GW bits for, e.g., Night Lords
>>98818759Oh for sure. The nice thing is you can usually use the killteam in 40k if you want to
What color scheme would Fe'saan sept be?What's the most fitting color for blue space racists?
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98818759>>98818761Yeah, I guess I can just enjoy kill team while it's there. I was just thinking about getting some striking scorpions to have sone eldar on my shelf before working on the rest of the muhreens, and being able to play KT would just be a bonus. At the very least I probably don't have to worry about them squatting an entire Aspect Shrine(fingers crossed though because they already got their phoenix lord...)
>>98818772Orange and teal
>>98818773>no imageEven the deldar ritual poster is demoralised
>>98818772It's gotta be blue, right? They can be the blue team to Farsight's red team
BIGBOUNCYBANSHEEBUTTS
>>98818801May be he will see the light of playing game with better aliens.
>>98818590If you don't like the official scheme just make a new one you like. Its warhammer after all, you're not required or expected to stick to only canon paintjobs.
Just a quick blu tack proof of concept tonight.Any suggestions are appreciated.
>>98818396>That said, full 10 terminators? Sounds like overkillExactly, add Lysander and Termi ancient on top for the -1 hit -1 wound the entire game. Opponent will absolutely has to think twice.No such thing as overkill. If you gonna add characters, might as well go big.
>>98818905Forgor image.
>>98818054Price leaked yet?
>>98818921It's about $400 in USD I believe.
>>98818054Best season btw
>>98818131>Daemon prince proxyDoes it have boobs?
>>98818078Just get a chink recast?
>>98818773
>>98818905>>98818909>suggestionskill yourself
>>98818909huehuehuehue
Samefag less, dear. Your vtumor waifu would be disappointed in you.
Is the shitposting STILL going? Fuck sake
>>98818921I've seen pre orders at just a bit less than 600 AUD. Granted that's in meme currency its still fucking expensive
>>98819017>Is the shitposting STILL going?Does an australian sniff petrol in the outback?
>>98818015>birdie demon planes all in the exact same pose and colour because the ones in the background were copy pasted>it's the wrong fucking pose for a diving birdthe day all drawing tablets are declared heretekal will be the greatest day of my life
>>98819017It's easy enough to just ignore it, that's what I do.
they should remake the FW tallarn stuff
>>98819059I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and merely remind you that you are in fact more intelligent than the kind of person who thinks that a draconic demon engine dives in the same pose as a bird, or that dragons aligning with the ground for a "bombing" run would do so at max speed.
>>98818025not posted any wip in a while. army is slowly grinding itself out.
None of my factions are getting a codex in 2026, well I think I’m about done with this hobby. Anybody want CSM, Necrons or Votann models for cheap? I figure what’s the point because GW doesn’t give a shit. My fault for not playing generic space marines.
>>98819081lmao nice meltdown
>>98819063They shouldn't because it's racially insensitive.
>>98819081>Anybody want CSM, Necrons or Votann modelsNo, gw doesn't give a shit about them so why would I?
is it a dick move to bring a stormsurge to a 1500 point game?
>>98819102I'd probably be okay with it. It's not that tough, and has bad close combat. Would be one to check with each opponent first.
>>98819095Very true. $4000 in paint glue and models and hundreds of hours of painting and modeling down the drain. At least I got to play 20 games last year before 11th.
How hard is it to buy new orks warbike to turn it into chaos bikers?
>>98819081Uh oh marine/destiny/newfag melty
>>98819081Calm down man. Sit down and paint something. You'll feel better.
>>98819143>how hard is it to take something cool and make it lame?
>>98819143why not just get chaos bikers?
I dislike, greatly, the basic concept of detachmentsmaybe if they weren't all completely at odds with the lore they claim to be representing I wouldn't hate it so much
Why do people hate Kill Team so much?
>>98818433>Heavy eye makeup is super sexy.
>>98819175Idk ask /ktg/
>>98819143You'd need to by marines for riders anyway and the bikes would need a lot of work to look chaos. Especially considering the chaos bikers are cheaper. If you want different style chaos bikers you'd be much better off starting with loyalist marine bikers.
Saturnine models deserve legends rules in 40k.
>>98819175Planned obsolescence and an obnoxious price hike on what are sometimes vital kits for 40K armies. Yes I love paying the KT tax for basic units in my army after already having to wait for the standalone kit, yippee!
>>98819219Just take them anyway.A terminator is a terminator, a dreadnought is a dreadnought.
>>98819143Fucking hell the only thing i heard when marines got a bike refresh were the millions of chaosfags complaining that they didn't get their equal attention cake, and it didn't stop for weeks. Chaos fags have to be the worst when it comes to complaining
>>98819175Cult fandompromotes mediocritywastes timeboring models like 99% of the time everything wrong with 40k is multiplied in kill team be it rules or lore
>>98818428Kek
>>98819219Saturnine don't even deserve rules in HH
Hey guys, check out my new Warlock models!
>>98819219I'd rather have GW make completely new terminator armor patterns for 40k.
>>98819241Looks like AIslop
>>98819229I don't think you appreciate how big those things are. Saturnine termies and dreads use bases that are 50 mm and 100 mm, respectively. Their counterparts in 40k use 40 mm and 90 mm. They're ridiculous.
>>98819244Cawl doesn't know how to.
>>98819219imperial armies and space marines should have more mainline shit sent to legends. xenos should get all their legends models remade in plastic and given full rules.
>>98819063It's a pretty easy kitbash so don't see much need to it.You just need some greenstuff for a litham and cloak they all used guard stuff anyway.
>>98819241Looks like ghey. I'm sure you will love it.
>>98818905>>98818909Does the Gundam have guns under its arm pits? Maybe do something similar with some plasma rifles or the pulse rifles, not sure how you should attach them.And make some plasticard hand shields.
>>98819254No. I know how big they are. I just don't think its a big enough difference to matter.Plus they'd still fit on the correct size bases. All I mean is don't let a lack of pattern specific rules stop you running minis you like when the primary difference is just aesthetics. All the terminator patterns are close enough to eachother and 40ks rules are loose enough that any terminator works as a terminator (and same for dreadnoughts)
Why would a terminator dude not wear his helmet
>>98819297Because he wants to live.
>>98819297They have a force field.But mostly, it makes character minis look cool.
>>98819297Idk I think helmets look cool, all my dudes have helmets.
>>98819241I hope they don't ramp up those special effects going forward
>>98819304>But mostly, it makes character minis look cool.Helmet off marines already look bad but helmet off terminators look ESPECIALLY bad because it highlights how stupid the proportions actually are and loses the intimidating gorilla look.
>>98819312If thats your taste sure. Then just give yours helmets.The whole point imof warhammer is to make your minis fit your tastes.
I hate how people expect you to own the app these days, and act like the app is infalliblei'm not downloading that shit
>>98819297>Why would a terminator dude not wear his helmetAs soon as he is identifiable, he's effectively invincible.
>>98819311>going forwardAnon SCTMG has no 'forward', the game is already floundering.
>>98819321Missed you will not be.
>>98819321Same but specifically referring to literally every single aspect of life because literally fucking everything is trying to force you onto a single use app now.
>>98819330qrd?
>>98819332I had to download an app to set my lightbulb to cool lightning as it was the only one B&Q has in stock that had cool lighting
>>98819330They look like they've got a solid release schedule, surely it's not THAT bad, is it?
>>98819331sorry but i'm not downloading an app that all it does is allows me to build ONE (single, uno) list that requires me to purchase a book to buildyou even have people demand GW just sell codex codes for the rules because its very clear they don't give a fuck about the actual lore or anything
Anybody have a link for the Berzerker animation?
To any guardfags with the RSV Centaur, when did you stop building to prime the vehicle for painting? Right now I have the truck bed with one wall, and didn’t glue in the back ramp/other wall. Should I finish assembly minus those two pieces and then prime/paint everything?
>>98819330theyd make for good kitbash kit
>>98819321Your loss, the app is unironically good quality.
How do you guys stay motivated to make your army? It feels like it’s never going to end…
>>98819399I take long breaks
>>98819399Have games with friends where some of your units are just primed
>>98819395Can you look at several of your datasheets at once and scroll through them like newrecruit's fancy export?
>>98819321Its a shame that war organ is gone now. I dont mind warmind but its not the same
>>98819341The Starcraft TTG had an incredibly botched launch with massive delays and way too small of a launch roster for a game of that scale. Archon Studios can't plan their shipping worth shit and there are STILL delays months after the initial 'launch'. On top of that Starcraft is a dead franchise withoutban interesting setting, so nobody really cared in the first place.>>98819362It was already changed from what they had before and now there's been delays and cancellations of planned units. The schedule means nothing since Archon doesn't actually know what they're doing. They aimed way too high for their capabilities and used a dead franchise to do it.
>>98819399Take breaksA little side project to just paint different colours and try different things is a nice palette cleanser, even a single mini.Engage with the lore, novels if its a canon faction. Maybe dabble in writing your own lore for /yourdudes/Get some games in with your half done army, against someone elses finished army.
>>98818926Thats obscene
>>98819434I can't tell how much of your post is driven by facts and how much of it comes from a console-wars-type of tribalism here.But it IS weird that warhammer has such an unbreakable a chokehold on normie wargaming, it can't be just setting because aos has terrible or nonexistent reputation as a setting and it still dominates the fantasy wargaming scene.
Do the Sisters of Battle have to keep re-dying their hair or is it some kind of future-dye that lasts forever?Will a Sister cut off from Imperial supply lines eventually regrow her original hair color?
>>98819499you know white hair sisters is just a fanart meme, right?
>>98819506uhhhhhhhhhhh
>>98819434This looks cheap and might be cool for putting on objectives, thanksLooking up reviews of the modular cathedral terrain now
>>98819506Why would you say something so obviously wrong so confidently? It's a specific subfaction thing, sure, but it's also their main advertised subfaction
>>98819175I think the rules are pretty nice but there's absolutely nothing to talk about. Most teams run 90% the same with little variance outside of noteable exceptions and it takes fucking forever for any more to come out. Some of the books include nice campaign style rules and parts of the game seem to want camapign style rules but there's a massive campaign shaped hole in the whole thing. It feels anemic to older editions despite running smoother.
>>98819506Retard
>>98819434Given what wargamers put up with, is Starcraft's situation really that bad? GW's mistakes over the past while would probably be several final nails in the coffin for other franchises.
>>98819513GW leaned into it for marketing purposes, but it's not part of the lore at all. Sisters have their natural hair colours. The white hair only thing came from fan artists.
>>98819547>d-doesn't count
>>98819418Dunno but I stopped using Newrecruit because it was much slower and doesn't have the full rules
>>98819555If you want an official explanation for when they dye their hair there isn't one, because canonically they don't.
>>98819539The game has zero presence except for paid battle report ads or people making fun of it because why on Earth would someone put out a Starcraft tabletop game over ten years after the disaster that was SC2. The prices are nearly GW for models that are okay at best. It has no proper way of sticking out as the setting is dead (and was uninteresting to begin with) and the gameplay is passable at best, which is where other games like Marvel, SW Legion, Battletech, and Trench Crusade manage to make a niche for themselves.Nobody wanted or was asking for new Starcraft content, and if they had been it wouldn't have been for a tabletop game.
>>98819560Theres a new starcraft announced but it's a few years away, maybe it'll be built up for when it releasesI don't care for blizzard stuff though
>>98819506Stupid fuck.
>>98819560Maybe not totally indicative but it's caught on at my LGS pretty well but I think it's because of the competitive slant they're chasing and a lot of the people at my LGS are definitely old enough to have played a bunch of Starcraft years back. Game feels way easier to get into than 40k at the moment too.
Well, time to make another primarch return
>>98819580Notice when people make these type of posts they never say>time for a new xenos release
>>98819560I bought a siege tank model because I like the unit in SC2 I don’t plan to play it in person I just wanted it on my desk to display. I also have been playing SC2 since release and same thing with WC3. Multiplayer in SC2 is fine right now but it’s a dead game, the story sucked but nobody plays StarCraft for the story.
>>98819559>because canonically they don't.Is the art in the official codexes not canon? Or are you arguing that white is their natural hair color?
>>98819506Great bait, mate.
>>98819453Warhammer remains on top by way of seniority and setting. Anyone who looks at tabletop games will almost instantly be met with Warhammer as the big face of the hobby. As such they'll gravitate towards it as the game also has a wide variety of factions across both Sci-Fi and Fantady settings, and since Warhammer is the biggest name they'll assume EVERY other game in the hobby operates on the same scale and price. This is in turn dissuades them from really looking and getting into other wargames.
>>98819580well Perturabo soon
>>98819585>Nobody cares about xenosShocking, I know.
>>98819594With Warhammer getting popular with normies it’s now time for them to stop price increases and start a media blitz with a new primarch and then once all the normies over the next 5 years get really into Warhammer start buying models etc then they start price increases once again but GW execs are stupid.
>>98819580The Armageddon box really didn't give enough for Marine Players to care about it and there's been a notable drought in good new Marine units to invest in. AoS has also been doing laughably bad while TOW is treading water.Releasing Dorn, Russ, or Sanguinius can turn this around in an instant.
>>98819580It's gonna bounce back
>>98819611>SanguiniusIsn't he dead-dead?
>>98819580New demon Peter turbo will save this shitty edition.
>>98819612Not if the mutants at GW don’t release codices in a timely manner and keep releasing laqwisha dwarves and femstodes.
>>98819547No, it didn't.
>>98819628Never been more profitable
With how much stock is in the hands of retailers you can't really just declare lower prices can you?Retailers bought at a percentage of msrp they'll be pissed if that margin suddenly shrinks
>>98819175Ignorance. Projection. Tourneyfags giving it a bad reputation. Retards that do not understand that teams no longer part of the tournaments roster doesn't mean they are suddenly not playable.KT has unironically the best gameplay of all current 40k themed games, and it's pretty comfy if you play it with friends, or the PvE modes.
>>98819623He's still floating around in the warp. GW just love money too much to actually kill him for good.
>>98819623No. His soul is currently in two parts, with his Wrathful side haunting the Vengeful Spirit (bit ironic) while his Noble side is said to be part of the Sanguinor.Also none of the Primarchs are perma-dead, they're warp entities. Even Horus is still alive, and the Emperor is awaiting his return.
>>98819580The Age of Konflict '47 has arrived.
>>98819580Stock prices are not reality. Some players tried to inflate GW stock and then short it.But the company is fine and earning lots of money, so they're going nowhere.
>>98819175I need to try the OG KT
>>98819624Demolisher style peter turbo sperg with 20+ wounds a 2+4++5+++ but wait here comes rogal dork off the top rope as a dreadnought with the same statline for the loyalist version. It’s a primarchapalooza!!! (Sold out Online) and in person for 2 years plus stock goes through the roof.
>>98819623Yes>>98819642Wrong. All your statements are wrong. Retarded memelore by morons without reading comprehension or parroting clickbaity loretubers
>>98819642>Even Horus is still aliveNo, he's dead-dead-DEAD, literally obliterated from reality and the Warp by the Emperor's rock-knife
>>98819623Primarchs ranked in terms of deadness:>Horus reduced to atoms both spiritually and physically >Sanguinius extra dead but half of him is in Mephiston? maybe? >Dorn was very dead but has become less dead over the years (GW knows they can make money off templarfags and fist paypiggies)>Khan is missing>Leman also missing >Corvus is a bird in the warp >Vulkan went to get milk after War of the Beast (if that's even still canon)>Alpharius/Omegon both dead? The rest are demons currently either jobbing or doing whatever until the hacks at BL remember they exist.
>>98819642>with his Wrathful side haunting the Vengeful SpiritThis lore piece is outdated so bad.
>>98819657Correct. Morons do not understand that Big E wasn't talking to Horus, he was talking to the blade, and that it's a reference to another HH story about athames.
>>98819657Didn't that new HH book explicitly state that Horus's soul wasn't totally obliterated? I think it got retconned.
>>98819633Currently yes but when the spergs turn on something in significant enough numbers you’re destroying your own market and making your competitors a lot of money for no reason. The setting can easily hold the spergs attention and is currently grim derp enough for normies without getting political division involved.
>>98819654>>98819657>Theycdidn't read The End And The DeathThe Emperor managed to trick Horus into pushing out the Chaos Gods' influence and it gave him a moment of lucidity for what he had done before the Emperor struck him down, with the Emperor directly stating that he would wait for Horus' return.
>>98819663Anon doesn't know how to read. The Black Legion book talks about an spiritual inprint in the VS, but it's explicitly not Sanguinius actual soul.The same happens to Lotara of the We in another book by the same author, Echoes of Eternity>>98819669Wrong, See >>98819667
>>98819660Alpharius was killed, but it wasn't actually Alpharius, it was Alpharius pretending to be Alpharius, mean while the real Alpharius was elsewhere (also pretending to be Alpharius)
>>98819653Come on, anon. GW wouldn't release 2 primarchs in the same year, they have to space them out for emergencies.
>>98819434>and way too small of a launch roster for a game of that scale.Seen plenty of battle reports everything seems fine. Table is not overbloated with models to the point where you cannot move anywhere but forward.>withoutban???
>>98819681Happy to be wrong but man I bet they would love to bring that guy back for some kind of hamhanded storytelling.
>>98819679>with the Emperor directly stating that he would wait for Horus' return.Wrong.He wasn't talking to Horus. He was talking to the blade. Read Athame (Short Story) by John French if you want to truly understand the reference.
>>98819623>Isn't he dead-dead?When did that ever stop GW?
>>98819684Alpharius and Alpha legion are kind a stupid.
>>98819660>>Horus reduced to atoms both spiritually and physicallyThanks to End and the Death part 3 we know this is false.Horus is going to return. Emperor after he stabbed Horus and killed him literally says "I forgive and shall wait for your return."Also Emps doesn't annihilate the body either and Horus' body is just left in the command deck of the Vengeful Spirit.It's stupid but it is real.
>>98819701Wrong, see >>98819689Stop spreading memelore
>>98819660>>Dorn was very dead but has become less dead over the years (GW knows they can make money off templarfags and fist paypiggies)You fellas think a primarch dreadnought would sell more or less than just regular dorn returned?
>>98819371Any guardfrens out there?
>>98819689>He wasn't talking to Horus. He was talking to the blade.Holy shit, the actual cope.>no bro trust me, GW would never fuck up their own lore ever to justify more sales>this would NEVER EVER happenEmperor was 100% just talking to Horus in that scene.There is a reason why EatD is considered actual fucking trash. Horus Heresy as a whole was a fucking mistake and that 3 part book is the epitome of it.
>>98819710Much, much less. Being a mechanized-wheelchair cripple doesn't play well for the manchild power fantasy of Astartes players.Dreadnoughts are for the side-characters, not for main characters.
>>98819706I read the actual book, it happened and it's shit.You're just an idiot in denial.
>>98819709Jokes on us he’s now inside of a primarch sized invictus war suit and leads the invictus war suits only with special rules only on the stubbers.
>>98819689Why the fuck would he say that to a knife?
>>98819387I could see the terran vehicles being useful for ork kitbashes at least. I'd love to toss some bikers on Vultures and Hellions would make for a nice replacement for the firebuggy.
>>98819709Depends on if he'll look like a mecha or just a really big fancy dreadnaught.Maybe Dorn but he's got life support armor like Gorillaman?
While we're arguing about lore, what's your favorite piece of old-lore you wish they'd bring back?For me, it's Half-Eldar Inquisitors.
>>98819709It's better be a fancy dreadnought with the size of a knight.
>>98819714>Emperor was 100% just talking to Horus in that scene.Wrong. Read it again, then read the Athame short story. EatD is trash, and that scene sucks. But not because it retcons Horus sould being destroyed, but because Abnett did it on purpose to stirr up shit in social media while having plausible deniability.And you fell for it.
>>98819642>No. His soul is currently in two parts, with his Wrathful side haunting the Vengeful Spirit (bit ironic) while his Noble side is said to be part of the Sanguinor.Also none of the Primarchs are perma-dead, they're warp entities. Even Horus is still alive, and the Emperor is awaiting his return.Much grimdark, so wow
>>98819719What does the Emperor do just before saying those words?Read the book again and this time pay attention, retard>>98819721Read "Athame"
>>98819660>>Corvus is a bird in the warpI love this fucking plot point. Corax has been around all this time, but instead of doing something public, he's basically been chasing Lorgar for over ten thousand years, he's that pissed off about it.
>>98819744Wrong. Memelore.
>>98819736>TFW when I am only on mark of Calth because I started 15 years late on reading the novelsIt’s really rough going from angel exterminatus and betrayer which are fantastic and back to an anthology with no narrative stakes.
>>98819499It actually varies. Conventionally, they do re-dye it when their roots grow out. The Order of Our Martyred Lady dye their hair white to honor Alicia Dominica, the first SoB and bodyguard of the trio who had an audience with Emps that bleached their hair white.But a few of them do have religious experiences that bleach their hair white, just like Dominica did. There are stories where people with other hair colors had naturally (or...unnaturally) white hair after a certain trial or experience.Other Orders have different hair colors, usually for the same reason: honoring an important Saint or founder. People do this in real life in various ways, not always as obvious as dying hair. Naming your kid a certain name in the hopes they have traits of the person you're naming them after, dressing like a certain cultural icon in the hopes you are associated with them, picking up speech or behavior patterns, all kinds of ways.
>>98819732I want the sensei and the illuminaughty, just to fuck with everything regarding perpetuals, primarchs, and the cabal.
>>98819760>mark of CalthYou can skip all the Calth war stories if you don't like them. The only ones necessary for the metaplot are those centered around the fucking Perpetuals. Which sucks, but it can't be helped
>>98819646I don't think most people realise that GW has an absolutely bonkers price-to-earnings ratio of like 20-30x, the stock is almost certainly majorly overvalued.
>>98819771Gosh, she's so pretty >tfw no qt3.14 Sister Girlfriend
>>98819771>The Order of Our Martyred Lady>to honor Alicia Dominica,
>>98819660Oh, I almost forgot>Curze died vindicated
>>98819777Still amazes me that they managed to make one qt girl in 40k
>>98819773>the senseiYes. YES!
>>98819776AFAIK, GW has a permanent internal target of keeping a 70% margin on their products. Which is a lot, but not so much as you say.
>>98819660Sanguinius appeared to dante so unless he's out there>>98819781His soul is in the corona nox just have fabius make a new body for him and he's back
>>98819660>Alpharius/Omegon both dead?IIRC Alpharius got split in half by Rogal Dorn's colossal chainblade, and you know it was really him because Omegon felt it on the other side of the galaxy and knew he'd have to start pretending to be Alpharius for real nowOn the other hand, faking your own death so convincingly that everyone buys it, even your immediate family buys it, would be completely in-character for him, so...>The rest are demons currently either jobbing or doing whatever until the hacks at BL remember they exist.Kurze and Ferrus are both up there with Sanguinussy; they're definitively, on-screen dead and more people would be upset about them coming back than happy about a new mini or interested in what they've come back to do
>>98819744Well stated, I appreciate your knowledge on the subject and look forward to more Primarchs returning.
>>98819660Alpharius is easiest of them all to bring back what with the whole army of body doubles thing, all they have to do is simply say that those recorded instances of Alpharius being killed were actually some poor juiced up legionary getting smoked by whatever loyalist primarch.
>>98819805permanent
>>98819805>Two retards fighting.jpg
>>98819660the only deadness that matters is whether their respective legions are important enough to get a model range.russ, sanguinius(nor), and dorn will return because space wolves, blood angels and black templars are ranges gw can use a centerpiece to drive further sales for.of the other legions only the salamanders have any hope of getting fleshed out into another marine army with its own units, and thus primarch, and only because salamanders got popular with wholesome reddit memes.on the chaos side the never ever are alphomegon, curze, and horus, and the latter only because abby needs to get wanked.technically lorgar too would never have a range of its own, but undivided models are basically better themed for word bearers than abbadon anyway so he might get done just because in the far future.
>>98819803>>98819810Alpharius has always been in plain sigh in 40k. Unless GW chickens out, he's definitely Cypher.
>>98819793Price-to-earnings is the market cap vs. the company's overall yearly income ya dingus.
>>98819815Even without the dedicated model ranges each Primarch alone is more popular than the entire Xenos range of factions.They're all coming back, it's just a matter of time.
>>98819819...So who was Cypher in the Dark Angels HH books?
>>98819824Omegon, obviously.
>>98819813More like one retard and a professor trying to teach him a lesson fighting
>>98819831Yeah unfortunately Angron didn't manage to teach that retard Russ anything because he's just too fucking stupid
>>98819824The original pre-HH Cypher was a regular DA that was murdered and replaced by a pro-Luther DA librarian.Neither match the looks, powers, knowledge, and behaviour of the 40k Cypher. So IMO he was also killed and replaced by Alpharius/Omegon at some point during the Scouring
>>98819819>"Fool Guilliman, all this time you've thought it was I, Cato Sicarius, but it was actually I, Alpharius!"
>>98819803they could just have one of the ferrus onaholes that fulgrim keeps making escape
>>98819846None of the Ferrus clones had his soul, so they're were just meatbags without the real juice that makes a Primarch a Primarch.Remember the difference between the Horus and Fulgrims clones
>>98819831Wolf jobber tries to teach nail crybaby that winning isn’t everything. Wolf Jobber duels nail crybaby, jobber goes down and is at the mercy of nail crybaby. Crybaby says he has won the duel so he is the better one, Jobber says all my sons will kill you so did you really win, nail fail says yes because your pups are surrounded by my nail babies. Then they both retreat.What did we learn? That Wolf jobber and nail crybaby both suck.
>>98819823that doesn't seem to be the case, nothe more primarchs you bring back the smaller the returns in terms of sales because they compete with each other for attention, which is why they only make sense as centerpieces for specific ranges since separate ranges would create a division and competition in player base regardless xenos, very much by design, almost don't have that problem at all, so any xenos release for a specific xenos faction will be bought by all the collectors of said faction, regardless of their choice of subfaction for themto argue that individual marine subfactions are still stronger than xenos faction this way is just pure delusion the kind that's paraded around only by people banned from fridges there's a reason why some marine factions like iron hands, white scars and raven guard get jack shit while gw throws money to make stuff like votann, it's not because they have those factions or have someone with a gun at their head forcing them to make nusquats, it's because they know expanding those marines isn't going to pay off compared to just sticking to making generic marines and stuff for the already established subranges
Angry Ron was kinda mistreated by the big-EOut of all the bad dad decisions he made, the worst was not taking Ron’s problem seriously enough
>>98819851but doesn't fulgrim not have fulgrim's soul? or did he break out of the wack ass mirror
>>98819776Honestly, unless GW absolutely fumbles the warhammer IP the company won't go bankrupt. They're pretty lucky that licensing out to videogame companies has paid off because it's what's keeping them relevant in the mainstream who aren't interested in the minis or books. Fan content also helps. The Astartes fan animation alone put more eyes on 40k then any animation the company has ever made, it's why I hope they don't fuck up Astartes 2 after they hired the guy that made it.
>>98819846Ferrus coming back and seeing what his sons have become (again) and them getting mogged by his presence into an existential death spiral could be really interesting if the Iron Hands had more lore presence than the Guymer books and Wrath of Iron, but
I kinda like reading community articles but now that we're not getting anything for 40k until next year, it's just going to be AoS/Paints and other shit that I don't care about.
>>98819867Angry Ron was already terminally stupid before the emperor arrived. Nothing could be done, this was revealed in betrayer when Lotara interrogated the arch magos who did the exploratory surgery.
>>98819869Nobody knows, not even the writers
>>98819854If you asked the average 40l fan to name every Primarch they'd do it in less than 30 seconds.If you asked them to name every Phoenix Lord they'd think for a second and then say the only one they know is Yvraine.If you asked them to name Commander Puretide's students they'd ask what Chapter he's from.If you asked them to name three Necron Dynasties they'd say "Trazyn's, Orikan's, and the Silent King's".And if you asked them to name a single Ork Warboss who isn't Ghaz, some of them MIGHT say Nazdreg.
I think trying to redeem traitor primarchs by making the emperor retarded or giving them daddy/mommy issue was worse than what the SW prequels did.The Emperor can be a self-serving conqueror AND Angron can be a murder-fueled maniac.40k is space fantasy, the same kind of fantasy about evil lich wizards plaguing an entire land or dungeons full of floating eye demons vaporizing you with lightning.So why the fuck do we have to appeal to the kind soap opera niggers who obsess over specific personalities & characters?It was always about the world and setting, not whatever retarded petty shit some fuckass is grieving over.I suppose some people do related to being a mentally ill parent-obsessed deflecting mess.
>>98819903>And if you asked them to name a single Ork Warboss who isn't Ghaz, some of them MIGHT say Nazdreg.I would expect Gorgutz before Nazdreg.
>>98819838>>98819853Russ is routinely mentioned to be one of the smarter Primarchs and he keeps his intellect hidden so that others underestimate him, even Malcador acknowledges this during their chess games. You’d know that if you weren’t an ugly illiterate baboon.
>>98819903that's the problem, you think the average 40k fan of today matters when the waters have been muddied by secondaries and tertiaries they don't matter and you have lost touch with the hobby
>>98819889That’s true, I meant more that the big emprah needed to use the extra soft retard gloves when dealing with him. If big-e gave him more attention and tried to help him more, he may not have fallen to chaos (as easily)None of the other primarchs could have helped him, or would bother to help him. (maybe Vulcan or Sanguinius could, but Ron probably wouldn’t listen)
>>98819915>when the waters have been muddied by secondaries and tertiariesWho the fuck do you think GW is trying to get to buy models, anon?
>>98819914Dunno, go ask /hhg/
I play imperial guard. Does James Workshop hate me?
>>98819923pre-existing customers have always been and will always be gw's main target despite numerous attempts to get new blood into the hobby that have more often than not only served to make the hobby worse.gw knows it, everyone knows it, you don't accept it, secondaries don't buy shit, that's why votann sell and raven guards don't.
>>98819930No, GW knows you hate yourself for playing the weakest faction
>>98819930They like your money WAY more than they hate what political stances you're more sympathetic with.
>>98819823Bringing the Primarchs back hasn't really been that great considering GW is fucking allergic to doing anything interesting with them. The demon Primarchs either only exist in lore blurbs or exist to show up and job. Guilliman had something going on but now it doesn't seem like writers know what to even do with him, the hacks at BL are even trying to do "le special magic armor is failing" shit despite the fact that E money rebuilt him after Mortarion gave him super aids. Lion is so irrelevant to the setting he's in DoW before he meets his own brother. The problem with loyalist Primarchs returning is that they can't die again and can't just solve all the issues in the setting or else the enemy factions are screwed.
>>98819736>But not because it retcons Horus sould being destroyedOk, so Horus is alive and Emperor was talking to him.You can't even keep your posts consistent.
>>98819949He’s a Primarch hater just ignore him
The more you fucks bring up the idea of horus's soul having survived, the greater the chances some chaosfag at GW canonically decides abaddon has trapped his soul to power his talon.
>>98819949Wrong. The Emperor looks to the blade and says those words to it. And it sucks because it doesn't make sense unless you've read the Athame short story, and has made lots of people unaware of it to think he was talking to Horus. He wasn't.Horus is still permadead as he ever was.
>>98819914you literally admitted to getting your lore from youtube and grok summaries you dumb zoomer faggot, know your place and stop ban evading
>>98819975>Horus' soul being trapped in the talon and now he's just constantly nagging Abby for wearing his clothes and sitting his chair >Abaddon is the only one that can hear this and can't tell if he's hallucinating or if it's real Would be too funny for James Workshop
>>98819589I just hate how the protoss models are the overdesigned SC2 aesthetics instead of the sleek SC1 since Protoss used to be my favorite faction. I might buy a ghost or vulture for the same reasons you bought a siege tank though, always loved ghosts and vultures.
>>98819932It seems to me that GW's trying to go after people that enter the hobby, buy a ton of shit, then leave as opposed to veteran hobbyists.
>>98819914Lmao. The point of Russ, is that he pretended to be retarded but he's actually retarded. He went full retard and you don't come back from that.
>>98819993>I just hate how the protoss models are the overdesigned SC2 aesthetics instead of the sleek SC1Pic unrelated?
>>98820005Compared to what Zealots look like in SC2/the miniatures?
>>98819995It seems more like they want newfags and more attention on the brand considering they've got that Amazon show deal and trying to make 40k more "accessible" but the prices for the minis and continued investment in the hobby is too much for most people, especially with the economy being awful right now.
>>98820010I don't think the super bright gold does them any favours here, but I don't think they're all that offensive.
>>98819981No, he does not say that to the blade.That's not a thing.Horus is coming back and is not perma dead, that was retconned and deliberately done because wants to bring back primarchs because they like money.
>>98819984And yet I still seem to have way more knowledge than you and better reading comprehension but you were probably raised in the jungle by macaques so I can’t hold you to accountable for your stupidity.
>>98820026Not that anon, but I don't know why they wouldn't just find a way to bring Horus back; they've already gone against several core pillars of the setting and the old guard aren't around to stop them, they've already clumsily fumbled with the setting just to try and rake in more cash.
>>98819995That's their ideal customer but that's not their average customer.The average one is people who have got a 10 or 20 years old army already and occasionally check in to buy a new thing piecemeal and that may or may not be tempted by a range update or a new codex depending on how lively their local gaming community is.Which is why GW's value exploded when it did, when both 40k and fantasy let go of their traditional and stale rulesets for something that for once was considered fresh and attracted many old players to get back into the game to try it out.They fucking wish their average customer was newcomers since that's who they can milk the most, but it doesn't seem like they're capable of reproducing the massive increase in new blood that covid brought.Best they can do now to recreate that is new editions boxsets, high profile animations and games, and, if things get rough in terms of actual sales, then considering doing start collecting boxes with actual values once again, reinventing the tabletop rules once again, and the one next step of painting after having done contrasts (marketed as a one trick method to paint armies fast), which is prepainted shit, but that will depend on the reception of the new scenery, and in any case will end up being done only for a few niche starter sets since they require models to be designed with a completely different plan regarding the facing of their bits' details once arranged on the sprues.
>>98820010They are pretty much the same, except of armor being more glossy and optional headgear.The biggest difference, between zealots in LoV trailer and, for example, Fenix death cinematic in SC1, is general quality of the CGI.
>>98820036Ultimately I think they'd rather rake in money from licensing and multimedia but they really can't do away with the tabletop part of their business at all. The scenery is also $475 in my fucking area which works out to nearly $550 just for a fucking mat and that prepainted terrain. I think realms of battle was cheaper than that but not by any big measure or anything.Hell, even the new edition boxsets (and some combat patrols) strike me as a newbie trap where it's crammed full of shit that doesn't perform well on the table, likely to get you to buy other kits to make up the difference.
>>98819981The blade turned to dust book once an 8th murder was done with it, which was Emperor stabbing Horus.Emperor can't talk to a knife that no longer exists. Why are you lying?
>>98820035>but I don't know why they wouldn't just find a way to bring Horus backThey just did.In the original fluff Horus' entire soul is annihilated out of existance by the Emperor.In the new version it is retconned and this never happens, Horus' soul isn't destroyed, Horus just dies. Meaning he can be resurrected and brought back whenever GW wants in the future.
>>98820016Going from a muted yellow to everything being shiny and gold is another overall change SC2 brought along that I hated. Everything got more embellished and looks like it was pulled straight out of WoW rather than what I liked about Protoss in SC1. And ironically, they scrubbed away several details too. Like look at the armor on that Zealot in the SC1 victory screen and he's got plenty of little techy bits on him like vents and bits of cabling here and there, but on the SC2 derived minis there's none of that. Just overly ornate armor and a few crystals. They may as well be some fantasy race rather than spooky aliens with tech that feels both impossibly advanced and impossibly ancient at the same time.>>98820046Not really, the whole design ethos changed. Even just little things like how all their armor and ships used to have these wavy, darker colored striations in them like sandstone or something rather than a uniform solid gold.
>>98819903>40l fanHHfags can't even remember the name of the game they're trying to hijack discussions of.
>>98820060I do agree because I think the old Starcraft aesthetic was really cool whereas SC2 leans more into that big, bulky style that they seem to like. You might be able to paint them to a really nice standard despite that. The old cutscene with the carrier interior and Tassadar was really fucking cool.Also while you say that the zealots are without detail, goddamn do the marines have a ton of little recesses and other fiddly bits to paint over.
>>98820069Despite me using them as an example, the zealots are far from the ones who got hit by the worst of it in the Protoss range, they're just the easiest to use as an example since we rarely got an up close look at other Protoss that weren't unique characters like Zeratul or Artanis. But the protoss undeniably lost the tech side of their aesthetic and the fantasy crystal bit got way overdone to compensate. Just look at the SOVL drain in the remastered version of that same victory splash screen.
>>98819506>>98819547I'll take any excuse to post John's great SoB piece from 97.
>>98820026>he does not say that to the blade.Shut the fuck up. Stop talking about books you haven't read.
>>98820060>Not really, the whole design ethos changed.>said he while posting 360x360Come on anon.
>>98820047>Ultimately I think they'd rather rake in money from licensing and multimediaThe problem with that is that they have a heavy handed monopoly over the tabletop, and one that creates plastic crack addicts that will be tied to their brands for decades due to sunk cost fallacy, while any notoriety from games and tv is short lived and WILL die fast at the first error because they don't require much of an investment so they don't create an addiction and there is way more content being constantly churned out by their competition in those sectors to steal the attention and affiliation of these customers.They are hoping for a miracle that will catapult their brand like a new star wars as if the world was still in the 80s, but their only 2 reliable options forwards to drive up sales and players retention are good deals and good rules, but they can't offer good deals because stakeholders will kill them, and they can't make good rules because they're trying to sell their shit to retards and the old "easy to learn hard to master" ideal in game design doesn't work with such bloated ranges of models without heavy abstractions that will turn off old fans even if the game ended up massively improved as a result.They basically have to slowly gaslight their existing customers into thinking a boardgame can still be the same old warhammer, by making the changes gradual enough, but they don't want to make the changes as long as line goes up and they become desperate to make heavy changes when line goes down.They're in a corner.
>>98820048See >>98820093Retard
>>98820095And yet this just doesn't look or feel like the same ship at all. You're in a general for a miniatures wargame, you should know that details matter, even on tiny things.
I understand now why hellblasters are infamous for taking a year to finish. I get bored as soon as I start working on mine.
>>98820093And this is what the Emperor was talking about. It's about the Athame and Oll Persson.It's a unnecesary reference inserted in the worst place possible, but it's not about Horus coming back.
>>98820100GW is not a monopoly by any definition of the term. Their competition is just worse and keep killing themselves.See Steam for a similar case.
Somehow Horus returned
>>98820166>by any definition of the termexcept you perfectly understood what I meant by that so you know there's A definition for it that works here.
>>98820118I am building 10 stern guard and the level of detail on these dudes is insane, especially for a squad of 10Gonna take me weeks to paint them
>>98820184They are pretty detailed, true
>>98820167This will be GW once they run out of slightly less dead Primarchs to make models of.
>>98820093>>98820150>>98820104>brooo he talks to the knifeDude, this is just basic "cinematic" bullshit to make the scene sound more dramatic.He is STILL literally talking to fucking Horus here, Emperor just looks at the knife because he knows what he is about to do. And what he is going to do is STABBING HORUS to kill him, aka he is killing his own son.God damn you're a midwit.
>>98819803Alpharius and Omegan are the ones will never get confirmation about status since it's easy to say "one of his legion was pretending to be him against dorn"
>>98820220Wrong. You're a wishful thinking retard. And you miss the reference because you hadn't read either book. >>98820225Wrong. One of them 100% died. We get the internal point of view of the other when it realizes it.
>>98820201Easy>Leman Russ - alive>Corax - alive>Vulkan - alive>Dorn - alive>Ferrus Manus - Legion of the Damned style return>Sanguinius - rebornThen traitors>Perturabo - Daemon Prince>Lorgar - Darmon Prince>Alpharius - alive>Night Haunter - shadow daemon trapped in his crown (add some eldar spirit stone bullshit)We can go even further>Omegon - alive and loyal>Fulgrim's clone - alive and loyal
>finally started picking up stuff to actually make AL>Really like the idea of having some mixed units of chaos and loyalist along with HH modelsI wish chaos rules actually had snipers and infiltrators, because the only fluff list I feel like chaos can do is lots of cultistsBut at least using raven guard rules worksWhere's the sabotage your opponent before the game starts rule for AL
>>98820220Explain then how the Emperor's words make do not reference the Athame short story. I wait and I'll not forgive you.
Calling this lil nibba done.Realised it was time to get the new warhammer+ models and hadn’t even started on this guy!
>>98818114>wargame meant to represent 2 armies fighting>make a unit whose sole purpose is to not be foughtVery good design, yes indeedThe game should be FUN first and foremost. "Run between magic circles so I can win on points while praying my units don't die (or intentionally not fighting at all)" is not fun, nor how a wargame should be designed.Or what if he puts his 10 terminators onto the center objective? Then your entire point is moot because of how so many game objectives are built around controlling that center.Or what do we do if our armies don't have a terminator equivalent to "park in front of them?" Sure guard has Bullgryns to be *comparable* (though not as well because 6 models vs 10), but what about Sisters? Eldar? AdMech?>inb4 "just play marines"Not an argument>>98818743If you play an army with boxy vehicles (any Imperium faction), you can get away with an FDM printer. The boxy designs suit the medium very well. Don't print infantry on an FDM printer, the details are too small for the medium.I'm currently doing a test of printed tracks/bottom/hull gun mount to make 2 Leman Russ out of 1 box, and the parts look completely fine off of an FDM printer.I will not give you my STLs, James.>>98819371Ask again later, there's an anon with a painted up Centaur who posts during US evenings sometimes.I'd offer advice but I don't own a Centaur. I love the Chimera too much to cheat on her.
>>98820231Yeah but it's GW so il never actually trust it especially when it comes to alpha legion shenanigans Like I can't remember where I read it but I swear there was some shit like it was actually omegon who was pretending to be alpharius vs dornI wish they would actually do something with alpha legion though, I fucking love em and they have good books
>>98820115>And yet this just doesn't look or feel like the same ship at all.But it si the same ship. Just with more polygons and textures.>you should know that details matter, even on tiny things.That's actually my point, back in 1998 Blizzard didn't had much of a tech to add more details, or make better face animation for their cinematics.
>>9882025940k Alpha Legion is definition of " I have no idea what i'm doing", but that's okay. Neither did their primarchs.
I wish I got into drukhari a while ago so I could've actually gotten a good combo box
>>98820263I like the fractured warbands and how there all kinda doint something different, kassar and his group are just devoted to the primarch and don't give a shit about anything else happening whether it's chaos or imperium, and they even told solomon to fuck off Shroud of night was a really good book
>>98818015>How do your /guys/ travel the galaxy?Full fleet (Battle barges, cruisers, destroyers, etc.), but organized in thirds.One is oathed as escorts, the other does strike missions, and another is kept in-system. They also have a Ramilles starfort.One company's ships have cyberized crews, which lets them survive pushing the ships up to their structural limits. Extreme maneuvers, ramming, high rad, etc.
>>98819787All sisters are pretty. Ugly sister is an oxymoron.
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>>98820293What are the crossbow arms for? Can it shoot arrows from the top?
>>98818015>TQOn their battlebarge, The nameless steedAlso they're extremely gay
>>98820299>The nameless steedAh yes, the famous eponymous.
>>98820295Aren't those for some sort of sanctified anti-demon arrow?
>>98820263I like to think the Alpha Legion is trying to keep balance: if chaos won, mankind would be extinct. If the loyalists won, humanity would stagnate and then also be extinct.So the AL steered towards a different path - eternal war: if neither side won decisively, then the balance never fully tips one way or the other. Everyone keep fighting and suffering, but they remain alive to do so.And as such, a humanity kept on a state of total war has been able to survive the Tyranids and Necrons, which may not have been possible if either side won and then demobilized.
FFFUCK this took a while
>>98820317That's a Condemnor Boltgun, so yesIt has Anti-Psyker 2+
>>98820317Yes but I also like to think they can just shoot regular bars of dynamite
So question lads is there any other detachment that has a stratagem or rules based on permanent buffs like eye of the gods? I find it so flavorful and I crave more.
>>98820293That's a brotha
>>98820324I've always kinda viewed them as neutral Considering the cabal stuff telling them about both paths
>>98820343>Does he look like a heretic
>>98820262>But it si the same ship.Only the silhouette is roughly the same and even that's stretching it. This is the same general that's had a decade long melty over marines getting a new helmet and kneepads and suddenly you're blind to the obvious differences in aesthetic direction just because it's starcraft.>back in 1998 Blizzard didn't had much of a tech to add more detailsAnd yet what few detailed renders we got are completely different from what SC2 would show us.
>>98820324You've just put more thought into AL than GW ever will.
Can any bookfag who actually reads tell me what/who the King in Yellow is?
>>98820324>>98820348>>98820371This doesn't contradict the actual lore that they have a shit ton of widely different warbands
>>98820238>Explain then how the Emperor's words make do not reference the Athame short story.Because it is him addressing Horus.Horus literally betrayed him and became corrupted by Chaos. And the final little moment lucidity that Horus had he begged for forgiveness.Again, Emperor not talking to the fucking dagger, but to his son that he is about to and has to kill for the greater good of mankind. You're just an idiot.
>>98820378>the King in YellowAAAAAAAAAAA TASKETE NIGGERUMAN!!!!
>>98820384Doesn't change what I said. AL will always just be the wacky triple agent double crossers (OR ARE THEY ECKS DEE?!) because that's all GW needs them to be.
>>98818114>Don't play the game he wants you to play.Are u talking about opponent or GW and current edition?Also, nope, it's dull game-design, every tough shit should have nasty counter
>>98820384Some are disgusted by what chaos does, others embrace it fully, AL is the most mixed group which makes senseBut the other thing is everything AL usually does is the background stuff no one would ever no about, which is one of the problems with trying to focus on them, it's all subterfuge and de-stabilizing entire planets >>98820401It's makes me sad because there so fucking interesting outside of "I am alpharius and this is a lie"
>>98820363>and suddenly you're blind to the obvious differences in aesthetic direction just because it's starcraft.But I am not blind, I regonized them and even pointed out the differences, yet didn't found them fundamental.>few detailed rendersSuch as..?
>>98820417>Such as..?Scroll up
>>98820401>AL will always just be the wacky triple agent double crossersBro that's just the fanfic flanderization, people don't even paint them in their codex canon scheme
>>98820378Hastur.
>>98820378>he doesn't know
>>98820378That's just Valdor.And his plan is to kill the Emperor.
>>98820378I don't read, you're going to get what I know anyway:>in writing the misadventures of eisenhorn and bequin, dan abnett makes up some chaos cult for them to investigate and fight>except it turns out that at the end of the chain of command there's not actually some chaos leader but someone playing 4D chess with chaos cults and non-chaos agents, the king in yellow>at the end of the last book so far it's revealed this dude might be constantin valdor and that he's secretly building an army of blank supermarines with wings and carebears and my little ponies inside a pocket dimension, for reasons unknownapparently dan abnett is very excited by the fact gw is letting him go on with this snowflakey shit of his and the setting-shaking asspulls he's supposedly preparing for the next book, but this next book is nowhere to be seen still, maybe gw actually checked what they were greenlighting and shot him down behind the shed, or maybe they're waiting for whatever they're going to do with the amazon series and/or the next post-heresy novels.
>>98820426That would require AL to get a codexGod I fucking love the metallic teal color, easily my favorite color scheme for any spess muhrine
>>98820423>Scroll upPicture with resolution 360x360?
>>98820443I seriously hope your post is ragebait
>>98820326
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>>98820453permanent means permanent
>>98820459That ain't it either chief
>>98820453
>>98820441>at the end of the last book so far it's revealed this dude might be constantin valdor and that he's secretly building an army of blank supermarines with wings and carebears and my little ponies inside a pocket dimension, for reasons unknownYou know it's bad when even the suits at GW haven't allowed to this to be published yet. >or maybe they're waiting for whatever they're going to do with the amazon series and/or the next post-heresy novels.They might be banking on the Amazon show to get them more normalfag attention since most people don't actually bother reading the books or buying minis.
>>98820378The king in yellow is a collection of short weird/horror stories by Robert Chambers, published in the late 1800s.Each short story references a play/book called the king in yellow which drives people who read/see it insane. It’s excellent.
>>98820489They're some really fun stories and really evocative on top of that. Also some other authors have done a good job of playing off it.
>>98820470You’re such a sad pathetic little worm
>>98820259>I swear there was some shit like it was actually omegon who was pretending to be alpharius vs dornYou're correct. The Alpharius: Head of the Hydra book explains how they switched places at one point. So the Alpharius killed by Dorn was the original Omegon.Also, Alpharius was the first primarch to be found, in Terra. But it was kept a secret by Malcador, the Custodes, and the Emperor. Omegon was the last one found. Alpahrius took the opportunity to stage his own coming out to light while keeping the secret of being twins.
>>98820286>All sisters are pretty.This is canon, btw. A priest in one of the Dark Imperium books muses about how the Ecclessiarchy deliberately chooses pretty girls from the Schola for propaganda purposes.
>>98820517>>98820532Based lorefag
>>98820326Kino classic birdman
>>98820482whatever happens I don't believe for a second gw would let dan abnett cause any lasting change in the setting at large, so I'm going to assume this whole super special army thing will be a nothingburger that gets slaughtered by demons or sent back in time into an offscreen mission or some other bullshit of this calibre.
How many people here slightly change colors on units within a squad? I'm chopping up and sanding some rubrics right now and I couldn't decide on what color scheme I want them to be. The tzaangors might work better though and I just keep the rubrics all the same.
>>98820566Abnett already fucked over the end of the HH with the shit in TEatD. I have no proof but also no doubt about Pandemonium being delayed because GW finally reigned on his bullshit, at least a bit. Hence why he has published 2 books since then (the IG topgun one and Hive) but nothing that points to the big events of the HH/inquisition series.
>>98820556Picrel OG GW paintjob trolled me because I thought it was the natural pose for the pieces they give you but turns out it was modified with greenstuff to look this way. I tried my best to copy it but his right wing isn't at the exact same angle. It's an engineering miracle the metal wings are holding without pins (used an unholy mix of gorilla glue and black milliput aka "black gorilla") so I'll leave it at that.
>>98820378He's one of the HH villian's brains in a different body, forget the name of the evilman who was doing that. There's some cognate of his name and yellow. Gave up and stopped giving a shit about abbnet, stopped reading SoT, its just lame make everything tie into everything else and got so bad even for slop I couldn't be assed to keep reading.
>>98820378Bookfag here, this anon explains it very well: >>98820441
Anyone knows how big the new 30k combi weapons are compared to the primaris sternguard combis? They feel tiny here but I haven't found any pics of the models assembled.
>>98820688HH stuff is smaller than 40k stuff
>>98820708Not all of it. Axes are fucking hueg for some reason. Other combis aren't smaller either. Just haven't seen these out in the wild every pic I see is of the shotguns, which are also huge.
>>98820592When I need to use glue to defy gravity I always pull out the ol baking soda. Makes a strong bond very fast with superglue.
Alright Sister players give me Ephrael Stern painting ideas. Go with the box art? Have her match the colors of my sisters? Go with the old OML paint scheme but with white hair like in the old comics?
>>98820441Abnett's a pretty good writer though, I enjoyed his Eisenhorn and Ravenor series. Haven't read anything beyond that, though.
>>98820791Double Eagle and Titanicus stand out as two of his better novels.
>>98820787Matching colors seems best, though it might make her stand out on the table if she contrasts with them.
>>98820798it's also written pre tabletop admech which means it's not all about nounverbers that are all identical and just like the ones you can buy now at your local GW shopthe ebook cover art is a travesty though, pretend it doesn't exist
>>98820787She's a named character so if you want her to be *her*, yea go with the "correct" art, which means white hair and Order of Our Martyred Lady armor.If you want to have her be a proxy (hard to do with her Harlequin attache) for /yourgirls/, that can be whatever you want.
For the love of god someone direct me to a recaster that sells the vampire raider.I don’t care if it’s £500 I NEED IT
>>98820470Lmao
>>98818025big dread
Kroot and vespids are the big ones, but what other races are part of the tau? I like when they lean more into the auxiliaries, makes them feel like 40k's version of the federation from star trek
>>98820841Nice samefag needle dick
>>98820688Horus Heresy got combi-weapons? When?Also what's the gun on the bottom? The very long one with a drum mag.Is it a combi-melta?
>>98820875NicassarAnthrazodBoaburiBrachyuraCharpactinDomatiFormosiansG'noshGalgsGreetJagordianJi'atrixHrenianMorralianM'uh'jaNagiOstense CouncilPoctroonPhosiabPohu-AggRanghonTarellianThraxianVorghYabi-Yabi
>>98820884Like a couple of months ago. Bottom one's a shotgun.
>>98820883almost every single poster in this general hates you, there's no need to samefag anything
Play Darktide.
>>98820894Ahaa. Honestly it just looks like a bolter with a drum mag.Is cool though.
>>98820895Why do you constantly spew evil shit like this? How fucking old are you dude?
Who are some non-faggot 40k youtubers?
>>98820910Because you continue to poison this general with your retardation despite being banned almost 300 fucking times. Just leave already, at this point you will never be accepted or liked here no matter how much you try. You will always be laughed at and ridiculed because you're literally incapable of fitting in, you obnoxious attentionwhore
>>98820923Valrak is pretty cool >>98820926Imagine what would happen to you if you tried to utter one syllable of this bullshit to my face.
>>98820923eonsofbattle
>>98820923I don't know any outside of this one faggot who calls emperor "sperm donor", in his skits and it's like a smug faggot
>>98820900I've played it long enough
What makes melta and volkite guns different from a plasma gun?
>>98820929>Imagine what would happen to you if you tried to utter one syllable of this bullshit to my face.You would cry and piss yourself before suffering a heart attack
>>98820950Melta guns propel a jet of heat outwards like a welding torchPlasma guns propel a clump of superheated material in a directionVolkite guns are effectively sci-fi asspull microwave guns
>>98820900I have, playing as ogryn very fun. However I am still annoyed by how god awful slow Fatshark is, like addressing basic game balance. There's like only like 2-3 non-shit weapons on each class and rest just suck.Also fuck Expeditions, all my homies hate Expeditions.
>>98820923Valrak
Really surprised GW hasn't commissioned a manga yet
>>98821020Odd they haven't 40K is pretty popular over thier
>>98821020>>98821031Fun fact; Skarbrand is the only Wargammer character to ever appear in a proper erotic doujin.
>>98821039What?
>>98821020
>>98820984>annoyed by how god awful slow Fatshark is, like addressing basic game balanceFS doesn't address basic game balance in most cases, they're more than content to let shit fester. They're a lot like GW in that way; if it doesn't hurt their bottom line (money), it doesn't matter.Check in on Vermintide 2 talk about weapon balance sometime; that's how they treat Darktide, albeit worse because Darktide has shared weapons across classes and a few more weapons across the board (a few VT weapons are reskins, like Kruber's longbow and Kerillian's longbow, or Bardin and Kerillian's 1-handed axes).FS makes good games, but like all Swedes, they do not know how to maintain them.
>>98821020I'm more surprised GW doesn't have a dedicated Japanese themed marine faction. Also didn't they used to have official comics way back when?
>>98821084Iirc Emperor's Shadows are supposed to be the japanese themed chapter?But they are very neglected/nothing happens with them. But that is basically all marine chapters that are not UM, BA, SW, DA and BT.
>>98821102I didn't even know these guys existed wtf...they've got an official marine chapter for weebs with no actual lore and no writing. Bravo, James.
Why is the Great Rift? A big deal?Can't they just go above/below it?
>>98820892Do any of these guys have fluff more substantial than "they are an allied species to the tau empire'?
>>98821149Of course not :)
>>98821144>Why is the Great Rift? A big deal?It's really not considering characters can just appear on whatever side of the galaxy the story needs them to. Not even the writers care about the big ass speedbump in space.
There's a sale and fuck asking /v/. Anyone familiar with the differences between Space Hulk 2013 or Space Hulk Ascension? Doesn't seem necessary to have both but I've got the itch.
>>98820944Keep going until you hit a round number.
>>98820926You shitpost offtopic discord drama more than decalfag, you're part of the problem
>>98821134iirc they were a fan made that got put in a white dwarf rather than a GW Official™ chapter.
>>98821194They were made by Victoria freakin' Lamb, who was working at GW at the time, so they're a step above fan-made.
>>98821206So not official then and no reason for GW to have >muh actual loreGet off their teat and stop needing GW to endorse everything for you to enjoy it.
>>98821188They’re really the main and only problem if we’re being honest
>>98821144>See how one guy beat chaos with this one simple trick
>>98821084>Also didn't they used to have official comics way back when?They did, but even recently they had two mini-series published by Marvel, Marneus Calgar and Sisters of Battle. Haven't read them so can't really say much about it.
>>98821144Kek
>>98821188>if you call out the faggot and his faggot behaviour then you're the problemNo, not at all how this works.
>>98821144>Can't they just go above/below it?BFG's 2d so its impossible. You'd need some sort of heretical warp aeroplane.
>>98821260could you imagine of the bfg vidyas were 3d like homeworld? That would be so cash
>>98821237>Calgar comic was in 2020-2021 Well that's something I guess. Are there any newer comics for 40k or has GW given up on that?
>>98821268every single dev who's worked on a space rts post-homeworld and hasn't made it actually 3d should be flogged until death, quite honestlythere's zero excuse
I'm running through my options here for a tau list and it's looking quite grimIt seems an awful lot like the game wants me to make an all kroot list or an all riptide list or an all ghostkeel list instead of using combined arms like the lorebook said I should
>>98821248if you are more of a faggot that the faggot you're whining about then yes, that's how it works
>>98821166Classic Space Hulk is a translation of the dice game to PC. It is basic, but it has a nice story and very fun!Space Hulk Ascension is the rework, I think by the same Full Control studios. It's based on SHulk, but it's its own thing. Operates in % instead of dice. Lots more customizations and a vast amount of weapons and relics, and even combis. I have both.I play Ascension and I like it, but it's not the og space Hulk. Didn't think a lack of voice narration would be so noticeable.Loooots of grinding.
>>98821306>lore says to go combined arms>gameplay requires you to spam 1-3 unit types to not get steamrolledWelcome to the guard experienceYour "GW refuses to be logically consistent with their implementation of 'lore accuracy'" tshirt is in the mail
>>98821324>Loooots of grinding.Classic Space Hulk it is. Thanks for the qrd appreciate it.
>>98821144no, warp travel works by riding on warp currents in the warpneedless to say there ain't many currents too far from the galactic plateonly nids do this sick trick
>>98821276Pretty sure those were the only two mini-series. They ran for 5 issues. But then during the 90s and 00s 2016 there were a lot of 40k and Fantasy comics like Daemonifigue, Kal Jerico or Malus Darkblade. GW dabbles in comics now and then but nothing really stayed for long. I think Darkblade was the biggest success since the titular character had a playable model back in the 6th edition of WHFB and later on his comics got expanded into fullblown series of novels, and even got a standalone The End Times novel. Oh, and he's a playable Legendary Lord in Total War.
I'm finally done with infantries well powered armored infantriesstill got 10 more cultists to do
>>98821347I do recommend Ascension though, there's simply much more both content and replayability than vanilla.The "grinding" I feel is there to keep giving you new stuff after you've won, as it is Space Hulk HD Plus without it. At 0 grind you still have Salamanders with extra heavies, plus the other half dozen chapters.But blasting a path with a combi-melta is very satisfying, or using a cyclone launcher.I somehow trust melee combat more in vanilla than ascension though. At least you can see you rolled a 1, and can accept that. Here the chance is what it is.If I could see the random numbers generated, I would have zero complaints about Ascension. None at all.
>>98821437Being able to see the randomizer is more satisfying for sure. Do either have two player hotseat?
I'm going to ask a very non-specific question regarding low point games. We're starting at 500 points to learn the rules and then keep adding to that. I'm considering either CSM or custodes. Got no custodes so I'd get the new combat patrol box that releases next saturday if I'm correct. For CSM I'd have to add a hellbrute and a unit of terminators to what I got some time ago and never painted. In terms of gameplay and difficulty of painting, which one would you go for?
>>98821396base themadd decals
>>98821559Custodes will be miserable at 500pts, that's basically two units of 3 custodian guards at 480pts already and you don't have a character even to be your warlord for an actual list. Custodes seems easy enough to paint to a tabletop standard, whereas Chaos has Chaos trim. 500pts is eh, I'd aim for 1000pts minimum which is actually a playable standard. I don't think custards can work at 500pts with how their points are at right now.
>>98821603For me, it's 1250 points (2000 point rules)
>>98821603New recruit says with the new box the shield captain, dreadnought and 3 guards comes to 500-ish points. Those aren't up to date points mind you
>>98821144It was supposed to be a big deal that Gulliman would find a way to cross it after the Dark Imperium trilogy, but they decided to follow it up with the Dawn of Fire prequel series so Gulliman crossing it to save the Blood Angels is sort of just glossed over.
>>98821701he did it with the power or a sanguianal miracle
>>98821673The Combat Patrol is made with the old rules in mind likely, they don’t include the Ork Combat Patrol in the Coded like they did in 10th. Balance was never Combat Patrol’s strong suit so just do what ever you want under 1k points.
Remember when GW introduced vashtorr, the chaos patron saint of machines, and then released one(1) spiderbot model and no other chaos vehicles for like five years
>>98821740you mean the special character to buff the half dozen existing demon engines?
>>98821740Vashtorr was released after the venom crawler.
>>98821152gay
>>98820255It's actually very good for a wargame to have some issues that are not solved by slamming things together. Wargames are strategy games, and a strategy game should have strategies other than run at him with X instead of Y.There being an extremely durable unit that is very hard to kill but is expensive that clever players realize you're better off tarpitting than warping yourself around killing is fine for a strategy game. In real life armies have encountered problems that they couldn't solve by running at it all the time, from the first bows, to the first crossbows, tot he first gatling guns, to the first machine guns, to the first tanks, to the first chemical weapons, to the first drones. If you want your wargame to actually feature an element of real warfare, there should be moments of "shit, I can't just run at this thing like I usually do". Real generals have had to say that same thing every generation.Right now, a marine player can spend 390 points for a unit that is hard to kill. The identity of terminators is that they're hard to kill. That's what they do. That's why people buy them. So why would you ram your head into the wall of playing into the thing the unit is designed to do? Why would you look at the unit who's identity is "you can't kill me" and your first thought it "how do I kill this?". It's a generalship issues.You should play to the weaknesses of your opponent's army. Terminator's strength is that they can't be killed. But their weakness is that they're 390 points before upgrades/characters. So a good general will look for a way to minimize their effect while avoiding their strengths. Which, yes as I said, is a tarpit, not killing them. The same applies to stuff like Guilliman and the Lion and anything that is scary but expensive.A 10 brick of termies is OC10, and an attached character is more. You can completely ruin their plan by having a higher OC on the objective the termies are sitting on. They die but you score, repeat.
>>98821514I don't recall. The ai probably knows
VALRAK says that a catachan kill team may be coming, for real this this time not like the other three times it was teased and then ended up being something else.
>>98821144NO ONE GIVING THE REAL REASONThe light of the astronomicon was dimmed on the dark imperium side, so it's difficult and slow to travel through the warp and the chapters on that sidel ike the blood angels have to function as their own quasi-imperium, with some worlds essentially being independent.
>>98821813The problem with that is when that "tough to kill" unit can easily chew through every single thing you can put in front of it and they aren't expensive enough that you are unable to spam them. Or if that unit is sat on an objective that I HAVE to control to not lose the entire game, I am forced to engage with the "don't engage with it" unit.Or because of how hard they are to kill and your ability to bring 33 of them for less than 1500 points, you aren't "tarpitting" anything, you've just turned the *entire* table into "don't go there" by nature of being able to put them onto every single objective that you could want to hold, simultaneously.At that point, why even fucking play? It can take 4+ hours to play a full game of 40k because of dice and rules assessments, why waste my time if I can tell it's not going to be fun for me before even getting my models onto the table?>real lifeIn real life, it doesn't matter how much metal you wear on your body, you getting run over by a vehicle that weighs 4x what you do (including your armor) is going to crush you to death inside of your own armor. Do you think that Leman Russ tanks should get the ability to just insta-kill any infantry in melee by driving through them?An appeal to reality when talking about 40k is nonsense unless you want to be logically consistent with your application.Having one set of units that are intentionally "do not engage, just run away from it" is like playing freeze tag as a kid on a playground where one dickhead kid says he has an invincibility shield. No one has fun and everyone goes home thinking that kid is a dick.
>>98821144Yes you can go above the galactic plane...but you'll have to go back down into it at some point to go anywhere of worth, and you'll be diving into a black abyss because warp navigation shuts down the arcminute the warp clouds hide the Astronomicon
What is naval (sea) warfare like in 40k? A pastiche of WW1 and WW2 like the space stuff?
>>98821929>you getting run over by a vehicle that weighs 4x what you do (including your armor) is going to crush youNumbers say getting stepped on by a Warhound is not unlike getting a car on top of you. Definitely survivable by someone wearing power armour.What matters in those cases is not that the armour won't deform and crush you: it is that it will deform *after* the floor gives in.A suit of terminator would leave a Terminator-shaped silhouette on the pavement before getting right back up. Ground pressure.
>>98822001Inconsequential, but ultimately yeah. The Imperium uses a bunch of old (our modern era) military boats, pretty much everyone else has hover shit/flyers
>>98821929>you've just turned the *entire* table into "don't go there"Powerful. Are Termies so invincible? I'll be clinging to 10E stats of T5 W4 2+/4++ because I don't know what big guns are like in 11E.Perhaps if they were attacked by AP-2 D2 guns with high rates of fire. Maybe Autocannons. If there was a way to increase heavy bolter AP by one, that would affect Termies so much.What about demolishers? I remember them fearing those kinds of guns.I lost track of graviton weaponry, though I think that's marine only. But I remember we hated those because they were effectively AP2 heavy bolters when it counted.
Are Demon Princes the height of power for a mortal turned into a greater demon? Or is there a hierarchy of Princes, Kings, and Emperors etc?
>>98822055>Are Demon Princes the height of power for a mortalPretty much, yes.
>>98821929>Do you think that Leman Russ tanks should get the ability to just insta-kill any infantry in melee by driving through them?Funnily enough that actually used to be a rule, tanks could do a Tank Shock by driving into enemy infantry, they chould choose to either get the hell out of the way or stand and try to destroy the tank with a round of close combat attacks and if they failed the tank flattened them all like pancakes (IIRC with no saves allowed).
>>98821845To be fair, if I saw the Spectre Squad and didn't look closely at the details I would probably have thought them a new Catachan unit and not another Cadian one.
>>98822055no the greatest honor and height a mortal can obtain is to become one with the Tyranid Biomassyou literally become a part of an immortal god being that will basically go galaxy to galaxy eating everything for eternity
>>98822055It’s as far as you could go but all demon princes aren’t created equally. A lot of people bitch that Belakor is a special case but a demon prince who was turned into one and is just a meathead warrior is always going to get his ass kicked by a demon prince who’s worshipped by mortals or demons. Chaos is an infinite pyramid scheme
>>98822121Sentient fat vorefag pls go.
>>98822116Ntab then you're a retard blind to obvious design clues and military fashion. Spectre squad have no bulging biceps and are dressed nothing like catachans
>>98822121Genestealer claws typed this post
>>98822021Your picture is something intentionally engineered to REDUCE ground pressure. Tank treads are intentionally engineered to SPREAD ground pressure over a long stretch (where the treads are) instead of into a few points that wheels would be. Tanks *concentrate* their ground pressure in a certain place, not reduce it.Regardless, the breaking point in a carapaced object is its soft, squishy internals. You don't have to puncture the armor, you just have to increase the pressure inside of the carapace to induce fatal internal bleeding or to crush some important vital organ like the brain. Marines have only 1 brain, that gets popped the man goes bye-bye. The helmet cannot have the structural integrity of the rest of the suit, especially when it is being compressed against that suit.Ground pressure also has a presupposition of ground content. We're in a fictional setting where fights occur on all sorts of surfaces. Ground pressure varies dramatically between sand, soil and stone as-is on Earth based on the content, who's to say that there isn't some asspullium terrain or soil somewhere in the Imperium that won't deform the way that Earth soil does? Ground pressure right back at you.Arguing reality in 40k is again, nonsense. Or do I need to bring up artillery range, guard order distance and the fact that melta weaponry would melt their users too? You made the "in real life" point first, so either stick to it or concede it.>>98822052Autocannons are ap-1 across the board. Their strength and damage stats vary (CSM Terminator autocannons are 4 attacks s7d1, guard autocannons are 2 attacks of s9d3).Terminators also have access to a flat -1 damage in some cases.Demolishers, if you mean the LR variant, are d6+2 attacks (avg. 4.5) of s14ap-3 that do d6 (avg. 3.5) damage each, so the Terminator you'd be shooting at would just take the coinflip invuln save instead every time.Every attack into them is a coinflip *at best*, that's part of the problem.
>>98822135This is what I imagined the Tanith First and Only to look like but with bagpipes
>>98822147That's why I'm using them to make Tanith, yes yes. As soon as I saw a comment about how the kit comes with enough full stock lasrifles to equip the whole unit I knew it'd be a good kit and an easy time making Ghosts out of.
>>98822114So much has been forgotten, never to be regained...
>>98822121praise patriatch
>>98822145Yes, you can reduce ground pressure by increasing the area of contact. That's what those fat wheels do. By increasing the surface area, a tank is able to navigate terrain where much lighter cars would get stuck.So it becomes a matter of marines being able to survive getting crushed by a tank. They will live or die depending on whether you want them to live or die.But terminator armour could totally survive it. Pavement would give in...then the Russ itself, as steel is much weaker than the suit's adamantium.
>>98822145A conflip at killing a terminator with a single attack sounds pretty sweet, actually. The main problem with those kind of weapons (like Melta) is that they are low rate of fire. Demolishers, be they on Vindicators or Russes, seem alright. Idk if blast activates on squads of 5, but surely it does on the squads of 10 the simulation is talon g about.Also, apparently there will be some Plunging Fire thing that will give +1AP to guns. This means heavy bolters will force terminators to really on their invulns. Dang high ground will be more important than ever.Too bad everyone plays on Planet Parking Lot with just 2 L ruins lmao
>>98822195Zased
>>98822208>Pavement would give inLet me repeat for you, as you seem to lack in reading ability beyond the first point in a text."Ground pressure also has a presupposition of ground content. We're in a fictional setting where fights occur on all sorts of surfaces. Ground pressure varies dramatically between sand, soil and stone as-is on Earth based on the content, who's to say that there isn't some asspullium terrain or soil somewhere in the Imperium that won't deform the way that Earth soil does?">steelThe Leman Russ is made of asspull sci-fi materials the same that Terminator armor is, their properties are whatever the narrative needs them to be, so this comparison is useless in both directions.Again, an appeal to reality is nonsense, but you did it first.
I don't "get" the HIDDEN ruleIf you do nothing for three turns in a row (not including the turn you used to get into the building/whatever) you get to be invisible to people >15" away, right? But who the fuck is gonna be >15" away from you for two turns in a row without coming any closer on an 11th ed board?
>>98822254Ground pressure = pressure exerted by the vehicle onto whichever surface it may be on, anon. Wait, you really think ground pressure is exclusive to soil?! Haven't I been mentioning concrete pavement repeatedly?>Uh what if the ground doesn't deform?It cannot not deform. Even if the floor were steel it would deform. You would have a Terminator-shaped pressed steel silhouette on the floor, then the terminator would stand back up.The one thing that wouldn't deform would be a planet too rich in adamantium...>Aha! So there IS a...which exploded in M31 after Curze blew up Nostromo.>You did it firstI actually butted into a comment about terminators. I saw the og comment and I didn't find anything about a tank running them over.I wouldn't mind reading the supposed first comment of the chain
>>98822290Sounds like you get it just fine.
>>98822251>sounds pretty sweet, actuallyThere can be 11 Terminators in that unit, each one of those coinflips can be worthless by not actually killing a model (Terminators can have 4 wounds via storm shields), meaning those 11 Terminators then retaliate immediately and most likely kill your entire attacking unit because they have 10 thunder hammers or lightning claws between them (if you didn't kill any), as most common anti-armor weapons (meltas) are close range. Or, if you engage them at distance, there exists a command point ability available to space marines after their opponents' fight phase to put a unit of terminators into strategic reserves (Gunship Extraction) at the cost of needing those terminators to be unengaged, to which they can then deepstrike onto your tank, and then can advance and charge (Assault Doctrine) into your tank and use their +1 charge roll from the terminator detachment to do so, and then spend 1 CP to get Lance on their charge from Assault Doctrine.Terminators have good weapons, are hard to kill, can be spammed en masse and move fast now too.>if blast activates on squads of 5Blast adds x dice per 5 models in the target depending on what the x value is to add x extra attacks, yea.There's a blast 2 somewhere I've seen recently, at least.
>new thread timeMY TIME HAS COME
>>98822290>But who the fuck is gonna be >15" away from you for two turns in a row without coming any closer on an 11th ed board?
might be due for a new bread
>>98822360>then retaliate immediatelyThe Demolisher is 24" away. What are you going to do, wave a hammer at it? Shoot a couple kraks and expect it to die?
>>98822360>Gunship Extraction) at the cost of needing those terminators to be unengaged, to which they can then deepstrike onto your tank, and then can advance and charge (Assault Doctrine) into your tank and use their +1 charge roll from the terminator detachment to do soThat's a 11E thing. I don't really have 11E guns to think about yet. But damn, guess I'll have to raise a sacrificial escort for the tank then.
There's so much wrong with my model I don't know where to start so I don't
>>98822354>Wait, you really think ground pressure is exclusive to soil?That's not what I said, I said that ground pressure varies based on the content of that ground.Reading comprehension.>then the terminator would stand back upThere's a man inside of that terminator armor who is not made of asspull sci-fi material. His armor cannot both be extremely hard (read: brittle) and extremely resistant to HV projectiles (read: ductile); if the armor is ductile (ie spalls), the man inside will get squished when the armor inevitably bends and contracts due to outside force being imparted on it. Sci-fi asspull can only go so far when talking about metallurgy because of the suspension of disbelief.>after CurzeI don't care, this is a "we make up our setting" game. If we're fighting on a Necron rock somewhere made of Negronium that is impossible to damage, Termy boy is getting his brain turned into soup. The tank won't survive unscratched out of it either, fwiw, but the man in the suit isn't going to make it.>butted into a comment about terminatorsBy "you did it first" I am specifically mentioning >>98821813 , where you said>In real life armies have encountered problems that they couldn't solve by running at it all the timeYou mentioned "real life" in this reply chain before I did, that's what I was saying.>>98822385In that case, I was talking about meltas.
>>98822407It's you. It was (You) all along.
>>98822439I'm not the person you've been talking to. I mentioned real life only in the sense that generals have to sometimes come up with strategies, which is good for a wargame. When you people started talking about specific realism like tanks I tuned out because you missed the point completely.
>>98822448>I'm not the person you've been talking toMy bad then. Anonymous imageboard and so on.>in the sense that generals have to sometimes come up with strategiesYea I agree, but I don't think that "avoid that thing until we have stood in magic circles for long enough" is a very entertaining strategy to play out.This is a game, not a real battle. It should be fun.
I don't know what to think of the new terminators, they're supposed to be super durable but offset that with being generally slow, except they're very mobile with the terminator detachment so basically 0 downsides aside from the points cost maybe.
I’m jerking off to femboys and watching W40k lore vids. What’s everyone else doing on a Monday
>>98822470jerking off to 40k porn and listening to femboy lore
>>98822439>where you said>>In real life armies have encountered problems that they couldn't solve by running at it all the timeOooh so that's where it began Yeah that ain't me. Seems he's kinda talking about tactics, about how rushing doesn't always work? (Skill issue ;^))>I was talking about meltasAh yeah those are in immediate peril. Unsure which factions kept long range 18" Meltas. Maybe it's marines and eldar fusion? I remember Tau fusion lost their range past...9?
>>98822470>>98822513The Duality of Man. 40kgeneral.
>>98822470>MondayAlready Tues here pal
>>98822462>Please buy more of these toys! $$
>>98822525Lel>>98822532But it’s Monday tho
>>98822534I don't play marines, getting ready to kill me some instead.
>>98822439Termie plate is made of asspullium it seems. The one thing it's weak against is heat (plasma, Melta)...which its shields disperse.Ground pressure for titans on average ground = tank, so less than car. Termie wins vs car.
>>98822546They look so hungry! Dark maws and hungry souls all of them
>>98822544Nah, imagine being stuck in the past lel
>>98822574fuckin ratfag at it again, make us a new bread so you can ritual post already
>>98822515I'm not talking about "just rushing them," I never said that. I said that suggesting we intentionally not fight a unit (read: just letting it do whatever it wants) is not a good suggestion and is the sign of bad game design.To go back to his "real life for tactics" response, when German infantry in WW1 couldn't beat Entente tanks, they didn't run away; they rushed the tanks with explosives, set up traps and pits to prevent the tanks from moving, brought up field artillery to direct fire at them, and invented anti-tank rifles.We don't have adequate counterplay to the metaphorical tanks, that has been my point this whole time.
>>98822585No need to be so assmad about living in an inferior timezone and country that you start throwing namefag claims around blindly there m8
>>98822055yes and no. Deamon Prince is the highest title. But deamon prince isn't a single defined level of power and one can be stronger than others (or most in the case of Be'lakor). So the hierarchy exists, they're just all called princes.
>>98822597but my clock tells me its 10:13 am tuesday though
>>98822590I'm feeling so optimistic, full of "Nah I'd win". Of course, I'm ignoring the gunship reposition. But in terms of killing, surely something will come up......in 2 years. Because codices for 11E won't be all released within 18 months
>>98822615Well inferior timezone and state then
>>98822546you're going to get counter charged anon
>>98822621superior in both though, ahead of you and just simply more based
>>98822637>ahead of youChanging up your clocks twice a year to jump an hour ahead isn't superior anon, you're a cuckold.>simply more basedAhahahahahaha! Pic related, it's you
>>98822627In my last game, 5 terminators + terminator chaplain were making a move to my home. My guys shot the 4 and 5 of these guys then charged and killed the terminator & chaplain. Their job was just to generate me CP, but took down terminators so I'm now thinking of running a unit of 10.Had 5 acolytes left on the sprue so with these, my pile of shame is over. Except I got more shit coming this week.
>>98822678Are genestealer claws as advertised? They rend Termie plate like it wasn't there? How can this be ...
>>98822678Based, you would've been pretty lucky to have most of those attacks to go through though, hitting on 3s and wounding on 5s. Are you going to run them with a primus?Almost finished another squad of these fucks, now i have 10 more to do, make it end already, amongst all of the other shit I've got
>>98822708>4 2 1>hitting on 2s, wounding on 5s even with the upgradeNah not really
>>98822470getting ready for my game tonight against orks :D
>>98822721I'll just attach a Biophagus and use Frenzied Devotion for +1 attacks & +1 weapon skills and hazardous. I've seen a guy running 3x10 acolytes + biophagus + primus during LVO but that's just autism.Keep it going based red gsc bro, Neophytes are the toughest to go through.I painted 70 of them and honestly don't want to paint any more.>>98822708Not anymore, shit's fucked.
>>98822755ECKS DEE
>>98822759Calm down lil gup
>>98822759
Could I use GSC torsos as bits for non-GSC, or are they too iconic? Their spacesuits look cool
DARK ELDAR REFRESH>Vect+Dais and male slaves>Kabalite refresh>Hand of the Archon removed
>>98822771permanent
>>98822759Based
>>98822780You can kitbash anything as anything, anonJust cut off the more genestealer-y bits if you're making something like proxy guardsmen or whatnot.>spacesuitsAnother place to look is Imperial Navy Breachers.
>>98822790That says Karandras and Drazhar. Not male slaves or kabalites
>>98822780Would be good for kitbashing an Imperial Navy army without buying a ton of naval guys.
I have an idea for the threadI may make a 4e catachan killteam in the future, would anons be willing to submit character ideas for it?
>>98822780For neophyte hybrids you absolutely can, but the heavy weapons are wielded by 3rd gen hybrids who have more tyranid features like the carapace covered arms or an extra arm so a headswap won't save it if you want to use those as is. But everything else should work.
>>98822808it also says vect and vect comes with male slaves and kabalites are confirmed
>>98822780I've used them for a RT's army, mixed with mechanicus bitz for a high tech spec ops in sealed armour vibe. They're outfitted in pretty generic industrial suits, couple things to be wary of though is that they do have cult insignia to carve off and are more hunched over than you realise (until you're putting them together).
>>98822803>>98822809Yeah I'm thinking armored mortals. I wonder if those 30k solar auxilia veletaris would fit in...
>>98822780You could probably use neophyte bodies, acolytes are too distinct and they tend to have 3-4 arms>>98822757Ah right xenocreed, haven't given that detachment too much thought as I dont have enough shit to play it. Would be hilarious destroying something massive and watching half the squad blow up from failing hazardous rollsIts painful that's for sure, im going to try paint another 10 and then stop. I've been painting other shit at the same time to break up the monotony of it
>>98822828HH Auxilia would also be good, yeaThey're more "early diving suit" than spacesuit though
I did it!NEW>>98822853>>98822853>>98822853
>>98822812Clayton. A nerd who knows a bunch of xenos crap and everyone calls him a nerd but he can blow a hole through the eye of a rushing tyranid warrior so he's cool
Alright I've settled on my starting 2K points for Custodes>Shield Captain>Blade Champion>3x Custodian Guard >3x Sentinel Guard (With the Blade Champion)>3x Custodian Wardens (With the Shield Captain)>3x Allarus Custodians>Telemon Dreadnought>Galatus Contemptor DreadnoughtIt's 1900 points of models and 100 points of enhancements (30 on each dread and 40 spread everywhere else). A seventeen model army is gonna be fun to have.
>>98822803There's a theme for the collage cross-faction kitbashing.
>>98822860YATTA!!~memology aside, very cool. How are you gonna paint them? With your hands?
>>98822812>please do my job for me!Just @ us when you've actually done the dudes, with pics, and people may be willing to have some fun giving names/fluff for them. Until then you're wasting people's time requesting them to do your dirty work with the potential prospect that maybe one day you'll ackshually do these guys (you won't)
>>98822871I want to go for a more aged look for the gold, so I'm gonna probably drybrush on the gold over a black primer rather than just spray gold and call it a day. I don't really care for the colors of the default shield hosts so I'm thinking Ivory/Black for accents for the shoulders/fabric/plumes.
Horus heresy really does have some sickass sculpts huh Guess imma need to do even more kitbashing...
>>98822439>I said that ground pressure varies based on the content of that ground.Ground pressure only depends on weight and area.P = m*g/aP - ground pressurem - mass of an objectg - gravitational accelerationa - area of ground contact
>>98823730Agreed
