At the LGS I witnessed brown stains on around 70% of the chairs, here it seems to be the strange conversation coercion where certain subjects are off limits and only the most bizarre and unhinged are enforcing it and most of them have nomodels.

>>98826235
>TQ
Haven't seen anything yet at the LGS. But I am probably the weirdest autist in the Warhammer 40k side because I think I would be as I'm socially inept and use this website. I am afraid of getting too excited enjoying Warhammer 40k at the LGS and then sperging out and coming across as annoying.
>>98826244
You gotta give us more details. This is horrifying yet beautiful.

>TQ
The weirdest thing I've seen is some dude continue to infest a community that doesn't want him after being banned 200+ times

>>98826277
it's probably around 300 now

>>98826235
>and of the online Warhammer 40k fandom
recently seeing people on X cry about Nids having no characters and dumbfucks wanting to turn Tyranids into Zerg

There's a reason Zerg is shit and boring compared to Tyranids. They're supposed to be aliens, making them more human defeats the purpose

>>98826321
Zerg is aight kerrigan is pretty cringe though just because of the Raynor ex angle

>>98826321
Yeah that's always been weird to me. People cry that Nids are the NPC faction, but isn't that the point?

>>98826329
Zerg were better off before Kerrigan being some human voice for them
>>98826332
Nids are the army for people who like ants and bees and want to play them. Giving them characters and more humanity defeats the entire purpose of the faction

>>98826277
It really boggles the mind. Being chased off from all forums... I wonder if the collage was promised to him 3000 years ago?

>>98826321
>making them more human defeats the purpose
Shouldn’t you bitch about gsc then?

>still haven't primed my collage entry this month
mmm lemme check outside... hmm feels a little humid... ah well guess ill put it off till next week right

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>>98826235
>they’re just like me

>>98826361
NTA, but a different purpose and intent.
GSC are humans turned alien from top to bottom. They are not the human voice of the nids, just more victims.

>>98826235
>TQ

Knew a guy at my old LGS, let’s call him Timmy. I knew Timmy from around 2013 to 2017.

Timmy played the gusted. Timmy had an amazing army of Guards. Amazingly painted, each modeled uniquely, not a single one wasn’t unique from its brothers. He even named them all. On the base of reach was written Pvt. Heaton, and Spc. Long, and Sgt. Fulton, and a dozen other names. It was an amazing army. But Timmy had this weird habit. Sometimes, in the middle of a match he would start crying. Not sobbing, not screaming, just a few tears down his face. He’d normally excuse himself to the bathroom before anyone would see, bird I noticed. And there seemed to be no rhyme or reason to his crying. Sometimes he’d lose half his army and be laughing the whole time. Another time he would lose barely a couple troopers and tear up, it made no sense.

Anyways, I got to know Timmy. We became friends once we figured out we had both been in the Army. We’d go out for drinks. And one day I finally work up the courage to ask about the crying. He was embarrassed, of course, but since we were both vets he told me the truth. He had named every unit he had after someone he had served with in Iraq. He did multiple tours over 2006-2010 and had served at the height of The Surge. The vast majority of his army were people who had survived. The three who didn’t were the ones he’d cry over. If one of those there died, he couldn’t help but cry.

I was obviously flabbergasted. I told him that this wasn’t healthy, that he shouldn’t doing this, that he should be doing some form of therapy. But he just smiled at me and said that 40k was his form of therapy. That even when Pvt X died on the table, he’d come back for the next game.

Timmy moved away in 2017 and we didn’t keep in touch, which I greatly regret. I still keep a lookout in online battle reports for some Imperial Guard units with names on their base, hoping I recognize a name and can talk to Timmy again.

>>98826406
Lmaoooo, I am drunk as fuck, I apologizes for incorrect autospells.

>>98826156
WotC actively hates its customers and I don't mean that in the "raising prices" kind of way because every company does that
>call the pinkertons on some dude that legally bought product that was put out too soon (by like a week)
>refuses to reprint staples, their precons are 80% worthless filler garbage
>currently removing product lines to filter you into buying either chase packs or $100+ "collector" packs, the regular drafting packs/boxes are being removed
>$1000 anniversary packs that aren't legal game objects
>union busting (although this is sadly the norm in amerifat companies)
>sets that are projected to sell badly have their minimum purchase quotas raised for LGSes to keep their partnership, if you walk into an LGS today there is a 100% chance you'll see Spiderman boxes on the wall that will never sell
>no warranty
>D&D is the dogshit lowest common denominator game system
>their mtg cards are only usable in their own game, they produce no equipment, hobby tools, or supplies that are actually usable outside of their game's ecosystems
>they don't create binders, storage, or card protectors for their own cards
dropping MtG was one of the best things i ever did. maybe some day I'll look back with regret on how much I spent on plastic but the assembly and painting aspects feel like I'm actually accomplishing something. D&D and MtG don't provide anything like that at all, you just own shit and maybe sell it when you're bored.

>>98826406
>>98826417
Understood the message.
I knew guys who came out curiously broken.

>>98826406
That was me anon
I was Timmy
Sergeant Gorgonzola always made me cry the hardest
He stuffed a live grenade up his ass to save my whole squad…

>>98826436
This implies that Sgt G was the problem and saved his squad by suicide…

How big are Flashgitz compared to regular Boyz? Their sprue seems to have a bunch of extra heads and I wanna see if I can use the extras to spruce up some other models.

>>98826469
What a cunt

>>98826466
https://minicompare.info/

>>98826277
>>98826288
>>98826356
Isn’t it equally strange for the same couple people to continue taunting and verbally molesting a particular anon for years on end without pause? I find that to be just as odd in fact maybe more so.

>>98826459
We saw the grenade arcing through the air and we knew we were done for
But he caught the thing square in his asshole and saved the day
Gorgonzola style

>>98826466
Surviving long enough to become a flashgitz implies that they’re at least a little bit below Nob size at worst.

>>98826481
I’ll have to make a model for him then. I am more confident in my green stuff skills, but I’ll see if I can make a IG sergeant jumping, holding his ass cheeks open.

Just to reiterate for those unaware our resident decal impersonator will not post a timestamp alongside any of his recognizable models
He’s just infinitely reposting the same old pictures and larping about some new blasters but he wont pose them alongside any of his old knights or tanks or anything we would recognize with a timestamp
Lets just stay on topic and ignore the discord faggot who is just trying to rile up and derail infinitely
>>98826422
D&d and mtg can be fun
But i get what youre saying

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>>98826494
My god you really are delusional

>>98826321
Fuck off, Overmind and cerebrates were great.

>>98826422
All of these are just games to me
I dont really get any sense of accomplishment from 40k either
Its just an opportunity to hang out with friends and play games and have fun, same with MtG or D&D
Having fun with friends is an important part of life

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KIND
KOLOSSAL
KUSTODES
KNOCKERS

>>98826479
>particular anon
You're not an "anon", you're an instantly recognizable, mentally ill attention whore which is the reason you're being banned on sight. Maybe it's about time you faced this fact instead of making up new copes every single day.

>>98826531
Listen to the retard above who says to just ignore me if I am so easily identified you stupid slug

>>98826479
>>98826531
Samefag? If not screenshot
I wouldnt be surprised if its just one shithead pretending to argue with himself to be annoying
>>98826528
Holy…

My favorite vtuber is playing darktide today! Kino incoming?(I've never played darktide)
>>98826528
This one isn't even hot

>>98826543
Darktide was meh
Ive been looking forward to the new dark heresy crpg coming out but the release date has been TBA for fucking ever and its getting annoying
>>98826490
My greenstuff skills are very weak lol

>>98826528
these knockers are not worth 90points per tit
now bring me the Telemon Tyson

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>few months ago
>GW accidentally made the monolith trash by changing the wording of its ability to be an ingress move but didn't allow it to bypass 8" setup range
>"hey can I use it as intended? they've made an error"
>"no, rules as written" my LGS tells me
>cue last week
>"i'm gonna deepstrike my monolith 3" away using cosmic precision, I checked the FAQ, nothing has changed it from 3"
>"ummmmm thats CLEARLY incorrect as the app says 6"! rules as intended! i'm ignoring your updated FAQ! i'm not discussing this further"
>cue today
>overhear them tell someone its totally fine to put 12 centurions in a land raider because RAW lets him do it

this LGS is a fucking clique and I hate it

I bought cheap clear pva glue for my bases and it's abysmal, what brand do people swear by? I want to glue and seal some cork and add flock

>>98826558
>inconsistent rule enforcement
Welcome to 40k
It might not be malicious, it might be genuine incompetence, this game is extremely fucked up so enforcing the rules changes from day to day based in mood or how much sleep your TO got lol

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>>98826558
Violence is the supreme authority, from which all other authorities are derived.

>>98826367
Why do you feel the need to spam this image?

>>98826581
its not a TO and it was the same guy on all 3 times

I don't really fit in with the rest of the LGS as I don't attend much and I don't really like [current 40k], it feels targeted if anything
>if its anon asking, always disagree with him and never truly listen to his point, argue "but the LGS agrees with me" and try to shut down any disagreement

>>98826573
I choose to blame the glue instead of acknowledging my lack of skill as well.

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>>98826542
You’re ugly and stupid as usual

>>98826593
Anon please it's like water it's not my fault I swear

>>98826466
bigger but not as big as nobz

>>98826469
>tsons
>skinnyfat
where did you get this pic of me

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We played the 4th ed 500p game, yesterday with my friend in our club. The game was a blast, DE vs BA. I was able to kill 8 marines and I have lost all my army in the process. The next game will be 750p.

>>98826469
Can’t stand when people show up with unpainted garbage like this, have some pride you sloppy pukes.

>>98826469
Somehow, Ferrus Manus returned (as a Rubric Marine)

>firing deck 2 in a chaos rhino
What's the dumbest thing you can fit in here to turn it into somewhat of a threat? I was thinking one of the thousand sons wizards. Something like 1 infernal master and another one with 1x10 rubrics. Double hazardous witchfire anything with 4d6 S6 AP2 rolls, or maybe 2x5 rubrics for double autocannons.

Hoping back into the hobby slowly

Looking at the Eldar models, still lots of old models the new Striking Scorpions look good

Are the new Striking Scorpions good for Kill Team?

>>98826743
Steer clear and head for Marine waters, you’ll thank me later.

>>98826673
>skinnyfat
This is just fat

>>98826517
na it's shit that's done to humanize the zerg
keep the nids like ants or bees

What's up with Constantin Valdor? Isn't he a heretic secretly?

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>>98826321
and there's the humanoid tyranid faction already

>>98826586
unironically if the LGS had a gas explosion tonight, I know the owners wouldnt bring it back somewhere else and the 40k community locally would die

>>98826726
Death Guard Plague Bus is pretty good, 2 Plaguecasters with 1D6+3 S6 -2AP D3 Focused Wildfire + Affliction -1T and -1SV for 195pts.

>>98826824
would be a shame

>>98826787
What would make you say something so asinine?

>>98826787
He’s doing some random bullshit in the 2 Black Library novels connected to him. I would’ve preferred that he stayed as loyal Custodian and became one of the Eyes of the Emperor instead of doing some gay Dark Angels bullshit

So everything points towards me picking up the new custodes combat patrol when it releases next saturday. I mainly paint and play mesbg or older fantasy editions, I've never played 40k and only know about eldar, which was my second option, so I have no idea whether to build the guards with sword and shield or spears. I've read and watched a few videos but it seems to be a split decision between both. I guess the question is am I ever going to need 6 of one specific version? Should I magnetize? And on the same topic, how easy to magnetize is the dreadnought? TIA

>>98826919
Why does she look like a robot?

The temperature is rising again. Ugh.

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>>98826321
Nids don't need characters, although I would like more unique monsters, like Old One Eye

>>98826812
The only faction without named characters.
AKA the only non NPC faction ironically

>>98826787
He has a plot to kill the Emperor, yes, but so do all the other gold-plated nursing home attendants.

>>98826787
He is supposedly the Yellow King. But who knows if that actually turns out to be true, let alone if they'll do anything with it.

>>98826913
Magnetizing a Dreadnought is one of the easier magnet jobs due to their size. Magnetizing Infantry is rarely worth it, especially when kits don’t have dual build options (like the new Custodes seem to lack) Custodes are hyper elite anyways so unless meme spam lists become viable you probably can get away with getting only one of each kind of guy.

>>98826678
Nice. The only edition worth playing.

>>98826702
I didn't put the head on so I could reach the fire symbol thingy.

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>>98826913
Magnetizing big guys like dreadnoughts is fairly straightforward, but there are other options if your local 40k scene is sufficiently chill

>>98826678
>4th ed
Unc…

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>>98826678
Finally some good post in this general

>>98827091
It is weird that I don't hate the new logo too much

Yeah it is worse but only marginally imo. I don't like that the old one didn't look very techological/scifi at all. The new one added that but then took the grimdark out of it, so at the end of the day neither one is very good to represent 40k, but I don't really feel like the old one is that far ahead

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>>98827037
>>98827091

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>>98827132
lel

>>98827117
For the new one you have to go out of your way to remove the ™ from it. Because even meme images have it.
This was not an issue with the older logo.

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>>98826966
SOON

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>>98827117
It still has its own unique character to it; it's not just the company/IP name in the same basic bitch sans-serif font chosen for maximum legibility on somebody's phone like everybody else is doing now.

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>>98827193
>red terror
lmao, more like redo the error!

>>98827174
So Fucking Cool

>>98826768
But I love me Eldar?

>>98826773
Faggot with shit taste.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLmlEVoTbvY

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>>98827215
>Wants the nids to have characters that communicate to each other by talking
that sounds really gay
If I wanted to play humanized ant's I'd play Star craft, but I want my ants damn it

>>98827199
nah just dab some extra thin on it'll be fine

>>98826913
Don't listen to the anon saying magnetizing infantry isn't worth it. It's worth it if you care. It's not worth it if you'll say that one dude is a proxy for a different load out. But then you'll have to remember which is which so you're not accused of cheating. That, or you'll have to buy more models to cover all build options you want to play. Me personally, I magnetize because I make use of all plastic I buy. Infantry magnetization isn't hard, it's just tedious. Pick a polarity direction and STICK TO IT FOR ALL MODELS. Same polarity for horizontal directions, same polarity for vertical directions. You'll never have an issue with weapons attaching because trust me, getting those small disc magnets out after you super glued them into place is a real pain. I play Eldar, some of the smallest models in infantry and I've successfully done tons of them

>>98827215
>Faggot with shit taste
But enough about the Korean playing shill for blizzard's trash 40k ripoff

>>98827197
neoliberal pressure of samefaggification of everything for maximum permeation

>>98827235
Nta but the marines might as well be culling mindless chimps at that point, I think adding some voices to them would be pretty cool especially with the more dangerous ones which would make them feel a bit more threatening.

>>98827235
Have fun being the designated jobber, I guess.
>>98827282
Must've hurt using every braincell you have to come up with "no u"

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Let Chaos Idols take this thread!

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Do the retards who think nids should be humanise know that we've got a faction of human nids?

They're your mouthpiece for the swarm if you absolutely need one, no need to have the norn emissaries turn to the camera and start talking in english about some drama.

>>98827292
Each hivefleet has it's own tactics and personality as a hive which I think is cool.

>>98827300
>jobber
I'd prefer them to be an actual threat again but yeah sometimes being a jobber is just what it is

>>98827292
>the marines might as well be culling mindless chimps at that point
usually they're the ones getting culled by the mindless chimps, and that's the point

>>98827300
Don't seethe because your temu 40k knockoff is getting mocked again gook

>>98827316
>no! please don't make the scary grasshoppers talk, it would make them less scary and mysterious!
I don't understand the pussies that think nids have anything going for them besides an excuse for cut-and-dry pest control. What in the actual hell is supposed to be scary about tyranids? Big bugs? Endless hordes? They're just inverted demons with even less going for them. Strange and mysterious? They just want to eat everything. AH, SAVE ME, NIGGERMAN! THE BUGS ARE HUNGRY!

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>>98827316
But WHY would anyone ever need the xenomorph dinosaur with guns for arms to talk and explain itself?

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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>98827316
Are you implying GSC look anything like giger's art lmao

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I have been looking at kitbashes and different paint jobs for the AoS/40k demon prince. It is really hard to decide on a faction or paint scheme to go for; this kit has so much potential. I have some Chaos Knights armiger weapon bits coming in alongside a NoS demon prince. For example, pic rel looks so damn nice; the jetpack conversion of the backpack fits really well. What I am saying is, shill me on CSM factions, I guess.

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>>98827292
Obviously a lot of X vs. Tyranids books don't lean into this sufficiently, but the thing about squaring up against them is that you aren't fighting a CSM warband that you can inflict meaningful losses on and potentially cripple them as an effective fighting force, or whatever, you're essentially a bug fighting against somebody's thumb coming down to crush you, and the best you can hope for is to give it a wicked bad papercut that momentarily dissuades it. Having named characters outside of white whales like Old One Eye or having the bioforms needing to communicate with each other on a squad level would diminish them.

>>98827362
Demons are lame, nids are cool, it's not about the mystery or the scariness, you're doing that all on your own, and you're missing the point, which is straightforward sci fi action with no dramatic bullshit or other nonsense. If any other faction is like tyranids it's orks, but where the two differ is that the orks have comedy as side genre, while nids have documentaries.

But you're the kind of fridgeless nigger who thinks the only reason to like a faction is found on some power scaling tierlist from reddit.

>>98827388
>Hive fleet Moloch is a real thing
Fuck I thought it was just a small blerb or something, I didn't think it was in a codex

>>98827376
No? What the fuck are you smoking?

>>98827412
moloch and jormungandr are home-brews that got canonised, just like deathleaper

>>98827319
>I'd prefer them to be an actual threat again but yeah sometimes being a jobber is just what it is
At least eldar have a purpose beyond something that needs to lose in the fluff, even if it is just being the imperium's occasional bitch. At the very least tyranids can claim one over eldar after bitch-slapping iyanden.
>>98827335
>projecting
It's okay, I don't blame gw for poaching the zerg aesthetic. Really cool of them of them to slap a cannon on the ravager's back.

>>98827433
Trying way too hard saltslave

>>98827378
Night Lords if you want lots of hobbying opportunity with greenstuff flayed skin and various bones and severed limbs and stuff, plus there are several good bat heads from the Flesheater Courts range that look great on a NL demon prince; Death Guard has lots of gorgeously disgusting bits to kb with, as your pic demonstrates.

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>>98827427
That would explain how Ouroborus was created by the Moloc guy.
I only know that because Ouroborus is awesome and has an amazing set up in the story right now about gaining temporal powers.
also it's the best color scheme

>>98827433
Tryanids are for people who enjoyed watching animal planet growing up. They actually have interesting personalities, like how Kronos are strictly deamon hunters and will purposely ignore biomass to kill daemons

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>>98827412
Only Leviathan and Behemoth have been major lore focuses, but there are a heap of "explicitly mentioned in a codex" fleets.

>>98827449
>like how Kronos are strictly deamon hunters and will purposely ignore biomass to kill daemons
And how the greater hive mind supports this with regular shipments of biomass so they can keep doing their thing

>>98827458
Roll'n

>>98827449
>That would explain how Ouroborus was created by the Moloc guy.
That's a bit more complicated, because there are actually two ouroboros(/ouroboris), the one we have in the codex is a reference to the forgotten fleet pages of the 3rd or 4th book, the one made by the moloch guy was conceived as a color scheme for the nid conversions in the anphelion project that he did as a favour, and later dubbed ouroboris as he kept doing stuff in that scheme.

>>98827458
Dude, kraken was the nids' posterfleet in 3rd.
and typhon should have been the one from 10th

>>98827407
>Demons are lame, nids are cool, it's not about the mystery or the scariness, you're doing that all on your own, and you're missing the point, which is straightforward sci fi action with no dramatic bullshit or other nonsense.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying: tyranids solely exist to shoot. They're an npc faction that can fill the gaps of the galactic shooting gallery. They have no bearing on 40k and never will unless gw wants to be supremely retarded and end times the far future. You can cope all you like, but tyranids and demons are the same thing: a target. They're both lame.
>>98827407
>But you're the kind of fridgeless nigger who thinks the only reason to like a faction is found on some power scaling tierlist from reddit.
Power scaling is for marinefags, but your shitty argument has nothing to do with that, because if we operated on that paradigm then tyranids will always be at the top, maybe only second to chaos because you can't just clean up the warp. Tyranids suck because you can replace them with any other faction for something more interesting to kill.
>oh no, if I don't kill enough nids the world is over
ad infinitum

>>98827427
I wish my stuff got canonized. I have somr really cool homebrew Votann that GW should make official. I emailed them but they said no

>>98827366
Please be true!

>>98827366
Same. I feel it in my bones!

>>98827440
Keep feeding me, faggot.
>>98827449
>Tryanids are for people who enjoyed watching animal planet growing up.
That's like saying orks are for people who watched national geographic growing up.
>They actually have interesting personalities
The hell are we even arguing about then? Apparently giving the nids personality is bad, but they already have personalities, but they shouldn't be given any more, even though norn queens are borderline sapient individuals because why the fuck would the hive mind need individuals directing the hive fleets?

>>98827483
>They have no bearing on 40k
What do you think has "bearing" in 40k? A SETTING for a WARGAME where two of the key opening themes is that THERE IS ONLY WAR and that NO ONE FUCKING MATTERS.

If your answer is characters you should get flogged because you don't get 40k and you don't belong, if your answer is anything else, then tyranids do that plentyful.

>>98827510
>That's like saying orks are for people who watched national geographic growing up.
when did NG do a documentary about football hooligans

>>98827497
There are real human beings that actually like votann?

>>98827510
>That's like saying orks are for people who watched national geographic growing up.
Na Orks are for the rowdy kids who always rough housed a bit too rough
Nids are for the kids who enjoyed watching animal planet or like xenomorphs

>The hell are we even arguing about then? Apparently giving the nids personality is bad, but they already have personalities, but they shouldn't be given any more, even though norn queens are borderline sapient individuals because why the fuck would the hive mind need individuals directing the hive fleets?
They have "personalities" the way different ant hills have their own tactics and stuff. It's interesting how each one behaves and treats war
Hell you have a defensive one building a giant flesh tower in the galaxy

>>98827510
>The hell are we even arguing about then?
That what you smoothbrains are asking for isn't a personality, because you're blind to what a personality is, you're asking to have them written like retarded humans with daddy issues.

Prove me wrong and write one tyranid special character with a personality that isn't just a retard.

>>98827515
>If your answer is characters you should get flogged because you don't get 40k and you don't belong
If you have a custom hive fleet you've already broken your own rule.

>>98827458
If you like 1,5 or 9 you’re a pedophile

>>98827542
There is a fundamental difference between the behaviors of a collective and the characterization of an individual

>>98827545
Ironic that you rolled behemoth then.

>>98827545
>Loli debate
>In current year
>On 4chin of all places
Kill yourself

>>98827483
>but your shitty argument
appealing to power scaling was your argument, you were the one dismissing them because demons were just stronger in all they did anyway, regardless of how the factions aren't portrayed similarly at all

you cannot replace tyranids with another faction and have the same narrative because all other factions come with baggage that would change how the narrative goes and is written

>an endless swarm of horrors from beyond the stars that want nothing more than to consume all of reality is lame

>>98827578
if the silent king created them they'd be boring

>>98827578
>I need master chief to take his helmet off when he speaks

>>98827542
>'rule' is about characters having bearing in 40k
>anon thinks someone's subfaction is the same as a character
>anon thinks someone's subfaction necessarily has bearing in 40k
you don't understand 40k, you don't belong, you should get flogged like the tertiary you are

>>98827458
I want to hug behemoth

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>>98827458
Behemoth my beloved.

Space wolves are gay and flanderized furry shit because the bongs are still seething about the viking conquest of england all these centuries later. And leman russ is really gay too of course.

>>98827497
I think you have to make your stuff popular and well-liked first; make videos or posts about your dudes and try to get a following. GW only canonizes popular fanfiction.

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>>98827054
Books don't expire brainless trend follower corporative bootlicker brocoli head.

>>98827555
You know what, I'll concede the argument and just wait for gw to make an actual tyranid character because you know the retards will.
>>98827590
>you don't understand 40k, you don't belong, you should get flogged like the tertiary you are
How awful. You should kill yourself.

>>98826367
this is me wtf

>>98827639
Larp larp larp

>>98827621
I can imagine you drooling all over yourself giggling while typing up this nonsense, really shallow retarded drivel.

>>98827655
Live Action Role Playing?
I'm guess you do not mean that. The niggerbabble gets stranger each passing day

>>98826588
Why do you feel the need to look and act like this clown at your flgs?

>>98827443
If only I were better at freehanding the lightning pattern on their armor.

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>>98827655
seethe harder.
Next week we have our second 4th edition tournament.

>>98827652
you didn't answer the question >>98827515

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>>98827471
Tiamet is my favorite, too, since they've discovered basic animal (biomass) husbandry principles and are building a mysterious huge fuckass monolith that makes any psychically-active person who comes near it die from head explosion

Man, decalpedo really has the wrong opinion on everything

>>98826558
Why are they being bitchy about rules but letting someone play Legends rules centurions. Fucking insane.

>>98827708
nothing points to the other fleets not being capable of staying stationary somewhere, it's just that tiamet is the only one so far with an actual reason to defend one single place

>>98827714
He hasn’t said anything controversial today that I am aware of so what are you blathering on about now?

>>98827730
>He
You called nids lame

>>98827670
There are lots of tutorials and it's basically just painting zigzags with extra steps.

>>98827730
>He
>blathering

>>98827692
Because it's a fucking stupid question from someone too retarded to understand the assertion. Immediately jumping to the character bogeyman when the fucking tabletop was all about painting your army or maybe just using an existing scheme, when gw has been shoving primarchs down everyone's throats, when the most important shit that shaped the setting in which the game takes place was a bunch of soap operas. You faggots deserve all the lame character shit you're getting while gw beats you like a broken housewife.

>>98827733
You don’t know that was him and he just said it’s sort of lame that none of them can talk which is a valid opinion amongst players.

>>98827733
lol lmao

>>98827741
>Immediately jumping to the character bogeyman
your entire argument is on them being the way they are because they don't have characters

and you still didn't answer the question

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>>98827621
>>98827714
Hard truths of the universe

>>98827741
>about painting your army or maybe just using an existing scheme
see >>98827590

>>98827744
>him

>>98826573
I like pva from woodland scenic, but you’re never really going to get completely transparent pva glue like a sealing topcoat or something. You should be looking to prime over it and paint the cork after sealing it with pva.

>>98827714
You would think that by sheer chance he would have some correct opinions, but no, his entire personality is being the worst person imaginable.

>>98827776
A broken clock is at least right twice a day, a broken cock is useless.

>>98827741
>yet another primarch meltie
Primarchs are cool little man
Simple as

>>98827776
Dude shut the fuck up about him, nobody gives a shit man.
>>98827795
Based

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>>98827316
We already went through this with the primal Zerg in SC2, it was cringe and forgettable, which is why the people who want talking Tyranids don’t even remember it.
Kerrigan sitting around in her cave holding conversations with muppet zergs like a Jim Henson movie between missions was so fucking retarded.

>>98827810
No that was a mistake on their part for “ban evading”
>>98827815
Sc2 is based and zerg are based but talking hiveminds is pretty cringe

>>98827795
Are you the tard that spams meltie in this threads

>>98827545
It's not even "cup size of consent" at this point, you can see the shirt wrinkles from Tiamet-chan's breasts. Stop it; get help.

>>98827833
She looks like a kid pervert
>>98827830
Nobodies laughing and everyone collectively hates you

>>98827833
No fool, like if you are 18 years and one hour old and you’re not attracted to morbidly obese tortas exclusively, you’re like a pedophile, homes.

>>98827841
>a kid pervert
We call those mesugaki

>>98827826
Are you admitting to ban evading? That's against forum rules anon.

>>98827847
>he

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>>98827815
I'm not going to argue in favour of talking nids, but I will argue about splintered and naturalized subfactions, just like necrons should have more severed as well.

>>98827843
>>98827821
There's only one way to resolve this. Timestamp with a space wolf on your titties. It's the only way to be sure.

>>98827827
Nuhuh

>>98827848
No like I said it was a mistake on their part and I was promptly unbanned
You’re offtopic though which is against the rules
>>98827815
Zerg are cool and tyranids are cool
They both got their own thing going on

>>98827727
The other hive fleets strip mine the whole planet in one sitting, rendering it biologically inert and useless for the conceivable future (unless an ork spore lands on it, probably) so yes, obviously they could remain stationary if they wanted to, but they have no reason to want to an a bunch of reasons to dine and dash.

>>98827847
I see a bunch of talk about nids, which is on topic. So I'm just reporting the posts talking about primarchs and other such drivel?

>>98826367
Why do older millennials dye their hair that color? Nothing screams "I'm old and out of touch" like dark purple on a man.

>>98827920
>Why do older millennials (do something that) screams "I'm old and out of touch"
Because they're out of touch.
And they're out of touch because they're old.

>>98827897
Primarchs are based though…

>>98827896
Yeah they use like nuclear fission and stuff to be 112% efficient so like they literally cant lose no matter what

>>98827939
Some of them, sure. Vulkan and crow crow are cringe, at minimum.

>>98827920
Because we're old

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>>98827920
The problem isn't the hair color, it's that it's on a fat cunt who hasn't even dyed his beard to commit to the bit.

do you think cadians will ever fuck off or will GW keep releasing more of the little fuckers

>>98827950
They got a little something for everybody

>>98827967
Injection molds are expensive enough that once you have one, it becomes a core part of your business model, so take a wild guess.

>>98827979
How much can they possibly be?

>>98827993
A billion a pop

>>98827979
You should tell GW that, they toss new plastic moulds out all the time

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>>98827995

>>98828001
Fine
2 billion, final offer

>>98827993
In the hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars depending on the size and complexity, and we're talking about molds for finely detailed sprues for producing hobbyist miniature sprues on a scale suitable for global distribution, so...

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>>98827967
>cadians will ever fuck off
no

>>98827999
They also make more money than Britain's entire fishing industry, so they've got a bit of headroom to have a new mold now and then as a treat.

>>98827892
>was a mistake on their part and I was promptly unbanned
It's truly crazy how these sorts of wild freak things with banning happen here itt and nowhere else on 4chan. People getting 15min warnings constantly instead of full day bans, now this "accidental" banning that was reversed. Crazy stuff that never ever happens elsewhere.

>>98827939
Maybe if you like gay mahvel shit, but they have their own general so it's offtopic here.

>>98827920
I do it to match my wolvies, and the colours of my tanks, it's a little kink of mine, you see...

>>98827948
that's votann, nids use good old biochemistry

>>98828042
But then they might lose…

>>98827848
>forum
IMAGEBOARD

I LIKE ORKS LE ECKS DEE

>>98828027
No primarchs are on topic in the 40k general what are you talking about?
If you dont like then thats fine but calling them “off-topic” just because you dont like them just ousts you as a dishonest person

>>98828068
lose what?

>>98828073
212 replies 37 images
you better start believing in forums, etc.

>>98828012
Nigga really said a shaped goop holster costs a gajillion dollars smgdh

>>98827967
GW went out of their way to say that Cadia established colonies on other moons and worlds to keep their population after losing their home world.
Yes, they also did this to a lesser scale with the people of Armageddon in older editions (Minerva, most notably) and then coincidentally forgot about that lore when trying to squat the Steel Legion recently.
Cadians will never die as long as GW keeps trying to coalesce more armies onto the marine "one model, different paintjobs" product design.

>>98828080
permanent means permanent

>>98827967
>>98827979
The thing is there was no reason spectre squad should have been cadian.
>gaunt's ghosts/spectres
Easy to make them Tanith
>in the jungle vs. nids
Easy to make them catachans

I know you can paint/kitbash them that way, but making them Cadians was a fuck you to regiments known for fighting nids in the jungles/forests.

Realistically there isn't any reason cadians are so dominant in the first place. The variant regiments were guys like Elysians who are drop troops, Tallarn who are desert cavalary etc. Steel Legion would have been an easy pick for all the stuff Guard actually did get end of edition/beginning of 11th. Guard is being worked on by people who don't understand Guard and the glup shitto self-inserts.

IRONIC that diversity for them is just having female models, painted black, instead of actual regimental and cultural diversity like the troops from planet africa who are lead by general butt naked.

>>98827967
That's like asking if ultramarines will fuck off. They're the poster boys, I don't love em either but they're not going anywhere

>>98828080
>No primarchs are on topic
Correct

>>98828085
their marbles

>>98828086
Yeah newfaggots get pissy on some boards about images.
>BUT DAT IMAGE ISN'T RELATED
>YOU'RE AVATARFAGGING WITH THAT ANIME GIRL ON THE ANIME GIRL BOARD
>HECKIN TOURISTS AND THEIR EDGY MEMES
Honestly the fight was probably lost by 2015.

>>98828098
Cadia fucking stands cuck

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Let chaos idols take this thread!

>>98828098
>no reason spectre squad should have been cadian.
the reason is that the majority of guardfags just do cadians and are still allergic to having combined arms of multiple regiments, even if that's canonically how the guard operates

>>98828089
I'm sorry if you don't know enough about manufacturing logistics to recognize hyperbole/trolling when you see it.
Obviously an injection mold doesn't cost $1,000,000,000 USD dollars, otherwise nothing would ever get made out of plastic.

>>98828119
Cadia more like gaydia

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>>98828073
Forum is a generic term used to encompass a range of sites. Imageboard is just a specific type of forum, pedant.

>>98828098
>thing is there was no reason spectre squad should have been cadian
This is true. As much as I love the kit there's no arguing against this. >>98828124 is probably right in the reasoning for why they did tho, GW's modern guardfag is somebody who just buys Cadians because anyone into other regiments has gone third party.

>>98828128
Nigga knowitall larping talmbout some manufacturing logistics in the 40k thread holy

>>98828101
ultrasmurfs are worse in a different way because they're missing 'unique' datasheets like Tyrannic war vets, because GW does the " you can't do special stuff because it's not codex asstards approved" but the non-codex chapters like templars and wolves get a bunch of fucked up crusaders and werewolves and blood angels get ritually humiliated. The trend towards Cadians getting 90%, Krieg 9% and the rest fight for the remaining 1% has ruined the guard aesthetic, there are no 'variant regiments' to retreat to.

You could even fix it by not releasing entire boxes, but halfassed upgrade sprues like raven guys and white pimples get.

>>98827933
Shame too cause it looks like he has good hair genes if he just took care of it better.

>>98828108
Remember when 4chan had text-only boards?

>>98827378
Browse through CSM codices you might be surprised
Also for the most tedious method
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Chaos_Space_Marine_Legions_and_Warbands_(List)

>>98826367
>>98827920
>>98827933
In the first place if you're a fat 40yo MAN dying your hair purple you're out of touch with your own peers, nevermind teens.

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My last little ember of hope still burns because the cadians are themselves usurpers from a way cooler looking IG faction with better lore
and even the old cadians had better designs than the new and newer ones

>>98828077
the I like orks ritualposter is gone.
why are you still doing this?

>>98828148
Yeah, I've said it plenty times before that they need to move back to a more modular system for guard. More generic statblocks and then applying regiment on top for bonuses, a bunch of upgrade sprues to embellish generic Cadian kits.

>>98828158
Nignog I've been here since the 00's and I'm not engaging in your forum war bs. Stop getting your knickers in such a knot because somebody used a generic term over a more specific term, go seethe elsewhere.

>>98828180
>>98828101
oopsie

>>98828180
Why is spider jerusalem fighting a bunch of harlequins?

>>98828203
because negromunda has lookalikes for everything

The real answer to the Cadian question is to just make every new AM infantry release be from a different regiment, like these guys are Vostroyans, these guys are Arkhans, these guys are Tallarns, etc. and anybody who wants their army to be cohesive can just suck it up buttercup with kitbashing, 3D prints, etc. until GW gets with the times like the old men they are and sets up a well-ventilated warehouse full of resin printers cranking out dudes on demand for people willing to pay a premium for the convenience of not just playing Bolt Action like they clearly want to

>>98828216
Okay but what about actually just making the whole army have a cohesive aesthetic by default instead so they don't look like a bunch of random anachronistic soldiers from different historical eras standing side-by-side?

>>98828225
why would you want anything but a bunch of random anachronistic soldiers from different historical eras standing side-by-side?

>>98828216
>for the convenience of not just playing Bolt Action like they clearly want to
Trust me, if I could find as many people willing to *TRY* Bolt Action or K47, I'd be playing those more often than I play 40k. Infantry aren't a waste of points over there like they are in the guard.
People by-and-large are just not willing to go out of their comfort zones to new rules and new games, so 40k became the compromise option.

>>98828225
It was my impression that having Mongol barbarians and Confederate good ol' boys doing combined infantry stuff with tanks and laser rifles against incomprehensible horrors from Space Hell was the whole point of Guard as a faction

>>98828183
THERES MORE THAN ONE AND I LIKE ORKS XD

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>>98828121
>Let chaos idols take this thread!

>>98828216
Darktide unironically did right with their fomo slop shop, because they rotate through different regiment cosmetics and the result is a bunch of different looking vets. GW should've just gone
>here's a kill team for X regiment
>and here's the corresponding upgrade sprue, go nuts!
If they had done that at the start of KT there'd be like 3 or 4 regiments in GW plastic by now.

>>98828231
>Infantry aren't a waste of points over there like they are in the guard.
I've heard enough horror stories (for the other person) about, e.g., the 180 Poxwalkers meme list to know that, like comrade Stalin said, quantity has a quality all its own. I'm sure that Guard has some application for heaps of bodies clogging up the midboard and preventing your opp from doing anything.

>>98828242
nobody buys upgrade sprues, they make the cost of every unit too high

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>>98828234
This is correct. My favourite parts of guard novels are when two regiments work together and clash with cultural differences.

>>98828250
Speak for yourself, poorfag. I have bought multiple upgrade sprues before, I have also bought two boxes to kitbash for one unit. People do it out of necessity for niche factions they love, and because they have the funds.

>>98828242
Don't even need the upgrade sprue; there are plenty of Night Lords enjoyers who've bought multiple copies of the Nemesis Claw KT despite only playing 40k

>>98828248
The problem with throwing bodies on-field is that it's too easy to kill them. A unit of 26 guardsmen (the largest you can get) can be killed outright by 10 infernus marines, because those 10 infernus marines have 35 attacks (3x10=30, blast 1 on a unit of 26 gives 5 extra dice, 30+5=35) that auto-hit because they have torrent. Guardsmen save on 5+, the chance of 25/35 attacks going through is 34% before counting cover and other modifiers to the diceroll, and that's also ignoring attacks from other units finishing the job. That 26-man squad costs 260 points. The 10-man infernus costs 190.
Also cost, that's the bigger concern. A unit of 20 guardsmen costs the same or more than 4/7 Leman Russ variants, so why would I not just bring a Russ instead? The Russ is t11w13 and has a weapon that can actually contest most enemies.

>>98828256
How often does this happen? I read a Krieg novel and there was more "Cadia stands" bullshit in it than Krieg lore. Same shit happened in the Martian trilogy. There's always fucking Cadians infecting everything.

>>98828284
Sounds like an internal balance problem that could, theoretically, if they gave a single freshly-squeezed shit, be fixed in the next balance dataslate

>>98828263
stop speaking for the majority
the majority doesn't buy the upgrades

>>98828284
Do the guardsmen kill the marines if they shoot first?
Also have you tried screening?

>>98828274
I know, I'm buying multiple spectre boxes to make at least two recon squads of Tanith and probably a command squad as well. Upgrade sprues make it so much easier though, particularly for guard where you want to change all the dudes hanging out in their vehicles. The spectre squad for eg. is torso and legs as one cohesive structure, so you'd have to assemble the body together and then cut off the legs to transfer the torso over to a tank crew or HWS guy, while it'd be easier to just have an upgrade sprue with a bunch of torsos and heads. Now me personally, I'm just going to buy some torsos off Victoria minis, and GW has now lost a sale because I would've happily bought a Tanith upgrade sprue alongside a Tanith spectre squad KT.

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I ain’t gonna read all that shit so I’ll explain the difference between the Zerg and the Tyranids for those that don’t seem to understand and who don’t want to read 3 hours of bickering.

The core difference is the Overmind and the Hivemind. The Overmind is a centralized singular point of control over the Zerg. It has a body that you can point at be say “there it is”, and therefore whatever creature it (first the blob thing then Kerrigan) is is capable of individualism and expression. They do what they want and the swarm obeys.

Tyranids do not have such a thing, the Hivemind is a nebulous concept that referred to the interlinked synapses of all Tyranid working together as one. All Tyranids are of the same conscience and mind, you cannot kill the Hivemind without wiping out every single living Tyranid.

So there cannot be and never will be and unique Tyranid that has its own individual personality, for it is the same conscience as all the rest. In this same manner a voice piece is similarly unnecessary; it has nothing to say because the Hivemind does not care if you listen or not. And were they ever to begin to do so, you’d best not be fooled.

>>98828289
This nigga thinks Cadia gonna sit down or summn lmfaooo
Cadia stands bitch

>>98828289
>I read a Krieg novel
Your fault desu, they would have been written to push new plastic Kriegers way back when. Gaunt's Ghosts and Cain novels both have cultural exchanges between different guardsmen.

>unironically advocating for horde armies

please no, shit takes long enough to paint as it is

>>98828234
Guardfags don't actually like the imperial guard of 40k, they like the IDEA of a sci fi army with historical inspirations, and latch onto the faction because everything else is marines, but otherwise they hate everything about the guard from the organisation and tactics to the vehicles and imperial philosophies of the worth of human lives.

>>98828310
Yeah but I can't buy Valhallan 597th or Tanith One and Done.

>>98828183
In uncertain times like these I relied on the consistency of the ork poster. I will miss him. And I appreciate the other anons willingness to step up and bear the burden.

>>98828305
Saying all this shit only for GW to just retcon it and make tyranid characters lol

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>>98828294
>>98828313
Stop trying to speak for guardfags when you clearly aren't one

>>98828305
Technically, it's possible that there's some "centralized singular point of control" bioform among the tyranids, like the brain in a person's body, but it doesn't really matter since even if it exists (rather than the hive mind being a gestalt arising from all the individual bioforms thinking together) it's way out there in the outer dark where it can't be touched even if everyone in the galaxy put aside their differences and decided "yeah, fuck those guys"

>>98828330
and neither are you lmao

>>98828339
Cadia stands slutmuffin

>>98828312
The more different types of armies in the game, the better. Especially now that there are variable objectives in the game again

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>decalfemme has a histrionic fit and "disappears"
>shitposters appear
Like clockwork, the melties never end

>>98828346
anon its just marines vs marines atm, might as well be hh 2.0

>>98828357
More like HH 0.5 since HH is better

>>98828356
ah yep we are in presence of the detective again, how quaint

>>98828313
It definitely seems like one of those armies where the elevator pitch and the actual buyers are not particularly well-aligned.

>>98828292
We just watched GW lie through their teeth about "marines being less numerous on the field" to the tune of maybe having to drop a Lieutenant from your list, I have no hope of GW caring about doing things how they "should."
>>98828297
In the *best* case scenario, those 26 guardsmen will kill like 6 infernus marines if they shoot first. To be more "average dice rolls," it's more like killing 3-4 at most.
>have you tried screening
Is this bait? A reference to the tone-deaf WarCom article?
The problem I'm describing is that the game as-is encourages you to screen your infantry with tanks, not the other way around.

>>98828366
First was real, second was bait

>>98828366
As said, theoretically, not necessarily practically.

>>98828312
You VILL buy 500 Gaunts
You VILL paint them
YOU VILL BE HAPPY

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How do recasters recast their stuff? Put the OG sprue in an another mould and fill it with resin? This thing is supposedly a recast but looks just as the real thing.

>>98828363
Yes yes, we're all """the detective"""" good job protecting us from him with your astute anti-detective detection skills

>>98828366
>the game as-is encourages you to screen your infantry with tanks, not the other way around.
Grim, dark even. I'm worried for my list and I just want the guard dex to come NOW so I can see if it's even worthwhile trying this edition out or not

Going to play my first game in a while wish me luck brothers!

>>98828336
nah, fleets appear self sufficient and the "processing power" of tyranids as a whole ramps up the more fleets emerge from the void, it all points to a decentralised system for the hive mind.

>>98828357
That does that have to do with what I said?

>>98828395
Who vs who? Which edition?

>>98828404
because those are the only armies that are viable atm

>>98828397
That's my interpretation as well, I'm just open to the possibility that the full scope of the Great Devourer might be vast enough that everything we've seen so far is just like, a hand that's more functional if it has more fingers, and joints of those fingers, to work with
Again, I lean toward the completely decentralized interpretation, but

>>98828408
Okay, and what does the current state of the game have to do with the ideal state of the game?

>got the Ork codes cause I started Orks for this edition
>really liked it, decided to say fuck it and get the Space Marine one too
>Space Marines get a ton more content, “gold leafing” on pages and a ton of art and lore
Damn if I didn’t also collect Space Marines too I think I would be salty instead of just bewildered. The difference is genuinely night and day. Also interesting to see how the 1000 Marine limit has turned into “It’s said there’s 1 Space Marine for every of the million Imperial Worlds but who’s to say,”