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Legends Edition

>Community Links:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/
https://www.unitcrunch.com
https://www.newrecruit.eu
https://wahapedia.ru
https://40k.gallery/

>paint stuff:
https://eavy-archive.com/
https://armycrafter.com/
https://paintpad.app/
https://www.paint-vault.com/
https://files.catbox.moe/82w72p.pdf

>3rd Party Models Pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh

>Pre 10th Torrent:
Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5

>10th/11th Edition Rules
https://gofile.io/d/9LvQTL
https://mega.nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A

>Alternative rules:
https://onepagerules.com/
https://www.starbreach.com/home
https://nolimitswargames.wordpress.com/

>How to Make Wargames Terrain (2e 2003)
https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV

>Inferno! Magazine complete collection (1997-2004)
https://archive.org/download/Inferno30/Inferno30_archive.torrent

>Warhammer Monthly complete collection (1989-2004)
https://archive.org/download/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary_archive.torrent

>Games Workshop/Citadel Miniatures painting guides (1989-2016)
https://archive.org/download/games-workshop-painting-guides/games-workshop-painting-guides_archive.torrent

>Current Collage Theme
Plasma/Energy + Spooky

>/40kg/'s dudes
https://pastebin.com/8MwSq81B

>Previous Thread:
>>98831383

>thread question:
Whats your favorite legends unit?
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first
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I just went to play my first ever game of 40k at my local today
my opponent roll multiple 6 so on the first turn advance
So i did a turn 1 waah and just throw everything midboard
somehow manage to win by 5 points
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Thousand sons need to be removed
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>>98835338
With the new fight changes it seems like just going all in as quick as possible is a decent strat now. If you can be the one who makes their charges first you pretty much win the game
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>>98835344
Haven't played since the start of 10th.

Does this finally mean I get to pick first in my fucking turn?
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Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
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>>98835337
They're really not, and you're queefing out your 2nd pair lips if you think different.
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>>98835348
Yeah unless your opponent has fights first, but even if your opponents have a fight-first rule, on the charge you always fight first.
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>>98835351
Please stop
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>>98835352
Citadel base paints are pigment heavy. I have no idea why you would think any different.
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just finished a hospitaller, currently working om junith. i like how my sisters are coming along <3
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>>98835354
Thank God. Personally the worst rule.
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>>98835366
Give them some foundation at least
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>>98835354
So fight first doesnt let hitting the guy hitting you first during your own charge anymore right?
it used to let the defender attack first but now its the same but attacker with FF attack first then enemies with FF
then alt between the attacker and defender until every engagement unit attacked that turn?
unless i'm understand this wrong?
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>>98835364
goalposts starting to move now lol
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>>98835369
alternating creates grey areas where yeah sometimes it lets them actually fight first in charges but it's mostly for ongoing combats now. sometimes fights first is a negative where you have to pick them next even if you don't want to.
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why is there barely any exodite fan (34) art?
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>>98835369
Your unit gets FF on the charge. When two units have FF the unit owned by the player currently taking their turn goes first.
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>>98835374
Ah, you're a paintlet shitposting. My bad, enjoy the (You).
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GW in 2012
>>Warhammer 40,000 may be somewhat different to any other game you have played. Above all, it’s important to remember that the rules are just the framework to support an enjoyable game. Whether a battle ends in victory or defeat, your goal should always be to enjoy the journey. What’s more, Warhammer 40,000 calls on a lot from you, the player. Your responsibility isn’t just to follow the rules, it’s also to add your own ideas, drama and creativity to the game. Much of the appeal of this game lies in the freedom and open-endedness that this allows; it is in this spirit that the rules have been written.

Now
>OMG guysss GW nerfed my Detachment Stratagem I'm going to [redacted]
>the game looks like shit 99% of the time and nobody cares
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>>98835382
because coomers are lorelets
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>>98835386
Trying too hard. I accept your concession. Maybe stick to Army Painter?
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>>98835387
No I specifically remember the melties from;
Fish of fury
Remove from play
Chimera carpark
Musical wounds
Flyers
Grey knights
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>>98835387
I feel bad for most 40k players. My group only does open play and we make datasheets for our OCs
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>>98835342
I was into playing them for a bit but realized cult legions are just gayer CSM
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>>98835368
her head is honestly too small for makeup tbqh. i would end up just botching it
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>>98835328
>TQ
...Grotesques
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>>98835390
>buzzword
>buzzword
>irevelant range that implies I think pigment heavy paints are bad

Lol
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>>98835393
>fish of fury
Kek that takes me back. Tau paid for that one for a long time.
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>>98835358
I will for this thread, not sure about my new cultist.
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>>98835400
>off-topic post that only functions to respond to the conclusion of a discussion about hobby paints.
Lets try to keep things on-topic. What's your answer to the thread question? Mine is the Razorback
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>>98835414
>Citadel paints are off-topic
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I actually still don't know who gets the first ongoing combat. That fucking rule is written so inscrutably my eyes just start to fucking glaze over every time I attempt to parse it
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>>98835405
>I will for this thread
>After I already posted, teehee~!
>BUT I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT NEXT THREAD LE XD LE LE XD XD ECKS DEEEEE
This is why we all hate you.
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>>98835428
Fuck someone told me about the change but i forgot too.
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>>98835428
the opponent. fighting just goes back and forth starting with whoever charged first
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>>98835433
hes now going to samefag defend himself and pretend its all one anon shitting on him
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>>98835428
>>98835437
Clearer formating
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30 vs 30 termies match is the peak 40k
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>>98835439
He also already laid the groundwork to claim it's someone else by claiming he has a "disciple" now. This is why you can't trust aussies.
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>>98835382

Because Exodites are pure and not for lewd (as hot as it would be).

>>98835366
Looks good anon but trim your fucking finger nails.
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>>98835422
No, but this >>98835400 attempt at saving some dignity after the discussion about paints was concluded was definitely off-topic. You couldn't even answer the on-topic legends question or even acknowledge that I liked the razorback.
Shame.
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>>98835428
so basically
>attacker pick one FF to go first
>alt with enemies FF unit if there is any, if they dont have any its back to your next FF unit
>if all FF are spend, the attack get to start attack by first pick whatever engaged unit
>alt with defender until until all engaged units have attacked that turn
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>>98835328
>TQ
Hierodule. Biased because I have one. For so long it was on my must have list until I finally managed to place that FW order.
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>>98835447
>asking a SoB player to trim their nails
Fat chance
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>>98835472
I like that it's spearing an Imperial Fist through his lumbar spine. Fuck those guys. The 'dule is cool too. Did you ever get one of those Dimachaeron things?
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>>98835467
You type like a faggot
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Which wins for most convoluted rules of the edition?
>Fight phase activations with pile-in ranges and overrun fights on death interactions
Or
>Transports with six different types of disembark moves triggering under very slightly different scenarios with different effects and inconsistent interactions with reactive moves
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>>98835487
transports and it's not even close
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>>98835382
That bow is giving me a stroke.

Does she use all the strings to fire it? Does she loose them one at a time with multiple arrows? I’m so confused
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>>98835493
She uses the string that works best for the current target range and equipped arrow.
Or she fires three arrows at once using one of the string trios at a time.
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>>98835476
thanks. Needed something to impale the talon into since I wasn't using its stock base.

No never got a Dimachaeron. I didn't like the mini, it wasn't to my taste. It was too spindly and the chest mouth thing was weird but not in the fun tyranid kind of weird.
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>>98835366
Damn she looks cross eyed. It's ridiculous how hard is it to paint faces. That's why I probably shouldn't criticize because I don't paint mine for that very reason.......
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How many 40K wikis are there now?
Do they all contain the exact same information?
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>>98835369
Yes. There's two phases of fight phase. The fight first phase and then the non fight first phase. You have alternating activations. In 10th the guy who started first was the player whose turn it was not on. In 11th that was changed to be the turn of the guy whose turn it is right now.

Charge gives you fight first so as long as you charge into a fights first unit you will get the first activation. Only if you charge into two fight first units you get to fight first with one of them. And then your opponent can fight first with the other unit. And off course if the fight first unit survives for all the other fights they start first since you are no longer in the fights first category.
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>>98835351
>Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
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>>98835500
I kinda want to paint a small SoB force themed around battle-hymns. The sisters sing while they fight. Ima use only the heads where they look like they're shouting and their order symbol will be some kind of gothic treble cleff.
Order of the Crimson Carol or something.
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>>98835513
Please stop
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Necrons, but vibecoded.
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>>98835487
The transport rules are garbage, but not because of disembark moves. Disembark moves are fine, they're all easy to understand because you use them in different situations. Transport rules SUCK because of Firing Deck and *embark* rules. Firing Deck is just a fucking mess of retarded shit, and units embarking on stuff like reactive moves is dumb.
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>>98835565

Embarking on reactive moves is based, but only when any flavour of Elves, GSC, or Guard do it. Everyone else shouldn't be able to do it.
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>>98835351
>Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
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>>98835515
Order of the Joyously Raised Voices
Order of the Harmonic Choir
Order of the Emperor's Glory
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>>98835513
>>98835570
please don't fight spam with more spam
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Let Chaos Xenos take this thread!
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>>98835601
>chaos necrons
Kek they'd probably be as powerful as krorks
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>>98835607
we see some in the new necron book

they're fucking nothing
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>>98835428
if there are any fights first (due to charges or whatever)
>the active player goes with their FF
>then keeps going unless there is an enemy FF
>until all the FF are done
THEN
>the player entering the normal fights has activation priority
>interchange as normal

this means that if there are no FFs you as the active player can enter the normal fights with priority, or if enemy had enough FFs that would send you to normal fights with priority, against something like Emissaries custodes who have global FF on everything, altho if you stayed in combat with them there might not be much to pick up off you if their entire army is in melee and you let them get all FFs off with no interruption.
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>>98835513
>>98835570
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>>98835601
>>98835607
>>98835622
Nothing even hints at Chaos here wtf
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>>98835601
>this is what Deathwatch really believe
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>>98835601
>No GSC, DE, or LoV
The three most likely to fall to chaos aren't even included in the circle. (For LoV I mean the men of iron of course)
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Gameplay wise which faction is currently the most JUSTed?
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>>98835704
Assuming you don't count Imperial Agents (because it's always Imperial Agents) the it's probably Imperial Guard.
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>>98835704
LoV have never recovered from their early 10th index rework in my opinion. like irrespective of actual winrate, the army just lost all of its identity and oomph as well as its extremely flavorful army rule. it lost BEAM. its scoped sniper rifles now hit on 5s.

just a truly garbage rework that turned the whole army into near guardsmen level chumps with no defining features other than being slightly efficient for their points.
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>>98835641
It's just the rattumor spamming variation of his shitpost.
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>>98835513
>>98835637
Sorry, but the filenames give you away.
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>>98835704
Guard by far
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>>98835471
the FF change in 11th completely negates the purpose of having FF as a rule
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>>98835719
GW is throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks because the army doesn't have a rules identity since its disconnected largely from old squats and they missed out on the 3-6e era where you were not promised a codex or index so what you had cemented itself more as your army identity. Like imagine if necrons didn't languish 9 years with barely working rules, TWWB would not cement itself as hard as it did now that every edition they're promised to have it.
First they tried le grudges but pretty undwarfy aesthetics, now we got corpo aesthetic and somewhat rules but the jank is clearly going against the grain that one of the popular detachments is 3-currency flip on demand. Wouldn't be shocked if we see something new again and in 12th GW would stick to one after trying 3 different variants
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>>98835704
Guard, Bangles, DEldar, ImpKnights, and Geneclits
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>>98835704
Chaos Knights, for being flavorless garbage for 2 editions now.
Thousand Sons for constantly getting shat on by GW for no reason.
Blood Angels for being the most cucked of all the marines.
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>>98835509
>Fandom.com 40k wiki
Most up to date and extensive wiki, written in-universe. Huge articles that often document to a degree not necessary for a general overview.

>Lexicanum
Older, more concise. Not as up to date as the fandom site, but does have more information on older editions of the lore.

>1d6chan
A mix grab bag of legitimately good articles and cringey shitposts. Actually archives fanworks and home brew content, which the other two refuse to do.
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>>98835719
Every army should have a unique weapon keyword.
Votann should have [Beam]
Orks should have [Dakka]
AdMech should have [Irradiate]
Tau should have [Marking]
Necrons should have [Flaying]
Deldar should have [Poison]
Sisters should have [Sanctified]
Space Marines should have [Tactical]

You can imagine what most of them do
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>>98835428
They should just bring back Initiative and be done with this Fights First nonsense.
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>>98835766
Or they could just have not changed the order to be as confusing as possible for no fucking reason.
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>>98835704
GSC are always JUST
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>>98835778
GSC feel like a faction designed for the humiliation fetish masochists anyway,
>hell yeah, I'm gonna play as those hills have eyes rednecks whose objective is to be eaten by the actual relevant faction
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>>98835788
Being the underdog makes the win all the sweeter. Nothing is as satisfying as watching the lights in a custodes/space marine players eyes go out when he realizes his ultra uber elite badass are getting punked by inbred retards swinging stop signs and industrial tools.
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>>98835704
I found a white dwarf in a charity shop yesterday hailing the release of the new Drukhari range. The issue was from 2011 and everything on that spread is still the current model.

Just…
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painted up another sisters of battle character!
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do craftworlds have like gardens and vegitation and stuff?

all the old art i've seen of them they look 100 artificial and metallic
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>>98835813

Bro, what are you doing that your hands look beat up like that? I do renovations and I'm still on the tools and my hands don't look anywhere close to as bad as yours. Also you trimmed your nails gj.

Honest opinion you can clean up the eagle a bit more, think about a wash depending on the look you want. It almost looks like it's carved from stone right now, so you could wash it with a subtle off white/gray or even a very light pastel color, or you can lean into grimdark and just do something grimy.
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>>98835820
They're entire worlds in space. They have gardens and farmland and oceans and forests.

There's an old bit of lore (probably retconned bt now) of a craftworld that encountered the Tyranids and now have a small infestation of 'Nids in their Jungle vault, but they don't wipe them out completely because they're good practice for their aspect warriors.
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>>98835820

Yeah, they're fully contained and healthy biomes. Plenty of the books talk about gardens, forests, lakes, even "seas" and beaches. Craftworlds are supposed to be the size of small moons. You can justify the art by saying they're mostly showing urban environments which are more aliens and artificial looking.
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>>98835820
Yes
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>>98835803
lol, don't worry. They'll get theirs soon.
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>>98835813
Why is she naked.
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The joke is their relative life expectancies being very different.
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>>98835871

>Rogue Trader

He bears the Inquisitorial "I" upon his chest, he's probably an Inquisitor.
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>>98835886
>Inquisitorial "I"
it's actually an H, it stands for sideways
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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>>98835871
why are tau so cute?
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>>98835902
The face that only anon can love.
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>>98835915
she is a granny, give her some slack.
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>>98835871
Why did she never backstab him?
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>>98835871
Shoulda smashed her head with Hammer
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>>98835886
Inquisitorial ][ should have three lines across it. There's more than one ][ in the Imperium.
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>>98835923
The same reason he never backstabbed her
In the Grim™ darkness of the 42nd Millennium there is only love <~<
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>>98835901
You have felt it coming for years now anon..... it's not happening..... besides even if it happens are you ready to pay 1.5 times the current deldar prices?
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>>98835393
For me it was 12 obliterators+ 3 defilers IW. Or double untouchable Slaanesh demon princes.
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>>98835958
Unless I'm misremembering, the capital I isn't supposed to be our English I, it's a symbol in Gothic. I don't think any other organization is allowed to use that symbol other than the Inquisition.
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Forty gay
Tonight I finish these fucking seven marines that have been shitting on my desk for 2 months getting slowly batch painted
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>>98836021
>I don't think any other organization is allowed to use that symbol other than the Inquisition.
Adeptus Terra, Imperial Fleet, Imperial Navy, Ecclesiarchy, Sisters of Silence, Departmento Munitorum, Adeptus Arbites, Adeptus Custodes, Adeptus Administratum. Sure there's many more. In Legacy the Emperor's personal seal on a document is described as an ][ with crossed lightning bolts. Probably similar to the Custodes one, just lacking the raptor head.
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>>98835958
>Inquisitorial ][ should have three lines across it
I can only make it have two ]=[ because I lack magenta clearance
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>>98836053
who's the one with the pokeball?
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>>98836063
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Departmento_Munitorum
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>>98835764
>Sisters should have [Sanctified]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIyTpWyeYy0
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I just lost one of my disco tentacle when I was priming it
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>>98836132
have you looked into your butthole? they tend to end up there in my experience
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Other people are having fun playing the game you only know through shitposting.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/0jjz7tqg/grand-narrative-2026-introducing-the-lords-of-war/
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>>98836143
weird projection
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>>98836140
nope i cheeked
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>>98836153
Can confirm, I checked too.
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>>98836143
Fucken hell nearly two weeks
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>>98836153
>>98836155
have you cheeked the other cheek?
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Good morning gentlemen and gentle ladies, another beautiful day in paradise! Let’s all have a good showing today.
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Girls of the board, be honest: would you have sex with Angron?
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>>98835764
And Tyranerds?
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>>98836143
but where is my new battleforce?
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>>98836170
Nooo, I'm faithful to my wolfies.
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>>98836174
You’re not funny
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>>98836171
Maybe [Infesting] for flesh borers and such that can cause either save or movement speed reduction on one target hit until the end of their next turn?
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>>98836170
No, only Sanguinius
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>>98835641
That's the insidiousness of it, the taint of chaos can be invisible from the outside until it's far far too late
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>>98836156
Remember the Adeptus Custodes?
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>>98835923
She successfully spent decades in his company doing water caste business without him ever doing anything about it, and then died of natural causes so he'd never get a chance to. Absolute Por'O shit.
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>>98836199
Man poor Dante, he a real pimp and deserves better.
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>>98836215
What's better than an auramite-plated jump pack dreadnought with his special axe and a huge fuckoff plasma gun so he can continue to serve, even in death?
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>>98836224
Hasn’t he served enuff tho? Mans given everything and is OLD
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>>98836227
Not even in death does duty end
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Looking at the Imperial Guard Commissar I notice it can't lead ogryn units.
He also can kill himself as an ability for some reason.
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>>98836143
I would go to something like this except why the fuck is it in America?
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>>98836196
It still crack me up they edited the trailer and removed the female custodes models from it.
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How's everyone's hellblasters coming along?
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>>98836248
Can't decide whether the commissar blowing his own shit smoov off would raise my morale or send it through the floor.
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>>98836285
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>>98836181
>>98836191
>>98836316
Permanent means _________
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>>98836311
rolling a die before a battle to see if losing your commanders gives the troops more or less morale would be a fun bit of flavour for IG
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What is the worst army for somebody who cannot paint?
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>>98836332
GSC
horde army, lots of exposed skin, lots of fiddly little details on guns and stuff, expensive
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>>98836332
Anything with lots of little trinkets and trims, skin, human faces, clean color schemes, and flat smooth surfaces.

So eldar, sisters, genestealers, admech, guard, and for chaos it's thousand sons and emperor children.
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>>98836332
Pretty much all the armies in 40k except Nids / Tyranids are a nightmare to paint. Go AoS if you want a game that's made for hobbyists.
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>>98836337
KSons is tedious with all the little stripes and chaos trim, but Death Guard has tons of unique sculpts so you can't even build a workflow for painting them in batches—this Plague Marine and that one have completely different details to worry over, and that's not even getting in to the possibility of running 100+ poxwalkers and having to paint them first.
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>>98836170
Pre-demon Angron? Maybe.
Demon Angron? No.
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>>98836335
You can cumtrast a lot of it, but even then you have to take care of each part with its own color.
Skin, armor, clothing, claws, weapons, bling and exoskeleton.
Otherwise you'll need to do a proper paint job.
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>>98836353
The thing is that with something like nurgle you can be very messy with washes, drybrushing, and neutral tones, without picking all of the smaller details specifically, and you can still end up with something that looks finished because they can just be dirty.
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>>98836170
No, I like Death Guard
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>>98836376
Enough to listen to Morty grumbling about his dad, his other dad, and his grandpa the whole time, and then waking up the next morning with every STD imaginable and a bunch that aren't?
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>>98836394
Yes, I know Konrad is the typical I can fix him guy, but I'd rather let Morty ruin me.
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>>98836143
>in my home state but I'll be busy
Fuck.
>"choose your own fate" at the end of Voss's description
Destinyfag won.
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was wonder if I want my fleshmetal deepstrike squad as IW or WB
did i du gud?
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>>98836375
Every army has tricks and shortcuts that can get them table-top ready in relatively short order, but "embrace the happy little accidents and slap some Typhus Corrosion on it" is qualitatively different from "buy an airbrush" or "use this speed-painting formula that lets you robotically crank out Rubricae at a rate of one or two an hour" relative to the original question of >>98836332
>What is the worst army for somebody who cannot paint?
since the aesthetic judgement to
>be very messy with washes, drybrushing, and neutral tones, without picking all of the smaller details specifically,
is a set of painting skills that you have to develop over time.
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I feel like the tau caste system is a little limited
you have la for your most basic rifleman, then ui for all the NCOs, then vre for literally nothing because it's never used, then el and o seem to be interchangeable for all commissioned ranks from a jobber in flak armour to king shit in his custom battlesuit commanding an entire sphere
surely there could be a tiny bit more granularity
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>>98836445
Looks very meaty, I like it
I'd do another coating on the skin in some areas because it looks like it spilled over a bit. Do you use/have any guilliman flesh? People here shit on contrasts and speedpaints but for making characters with faces it's almost mandatory for me.
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Got my collage fella done.
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>>98835328
>Whats your favorite legends unit?

Gunstodes.
I think it's bullshit that they were erased, instead of being updated. They have a niche that's different from other Custodes infantry. I'd much rather had them erase Wardens instead, because now we have two different spear infantry that largely do the same fucking thing. It would be nicer if you had one sword infantry, one spear and one gun infantry. You could quickly tell what the model is by looking at the weapon.
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>>98836503
>two different spear infantry
in the foreseeable future all the plastic kits that came before these HH waves will be discontinued
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>>98836445
asked AI to slop me the red version
which way should I go with?

>>98836499
yeah I just use the xpress deamonic skin
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>>98836481
Grunt, NCO, CO, and General are the only ranks that really matter anyway.
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>>98835328
Anyone got the rest of these tutorials? Theyre great.
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>>98836481
Vre’s are senior NCOs, the leader of a battle suit team is gonna be a Shas’Vre while the pilots are all Shas’ui’s. Shas’Nel’s or fireblades are more like a company sergeant major, the highest enlisted rank in the cadre.

Shas’el’s are lieutenant>captain while shas’o’s are everything above that.
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>>98836540
You know, I was going to criticize you by saying that is the thinking of shitty conscription-system militaries, but I guess that does fit the whole of 40k extremely well.
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why do they say "left tenant" instead of "Lou tenant"?
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>>98836599

The same reason "colonel" is pronounced "kernel": pure retardation.
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>>98836248
The Commissar can lead Ogryns/Bullgryns in two ways:
>Exemplar of Duty enhancement from the Abhuman Auxiliaries detachment
This one lets you give it to all 3 of your Commissars, and it gives the Commissar Feel No Pain 4+ in the event of precision weapons on enemies.
>Abhuman Detail enhancement from the Grizzled Company detachment
This one only lets you do it to only 1 Commissar, and doesn't give any other benefits.

Steel Hammer/Abhuman Auxiliaries is a decent way to play guard right now, though it is absurdly expensive and extremely skewed.
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>>98836604
Sounds like a bunch of bologna.
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>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/0jjz7tqg/grand-narrative-2026-introducing-the-lords-of-war/
This reads a little like a chatbot, no?
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>>98836599
england says english weird to make themselves sound more sophisticated.

lou-tenant makes more sense because it comes from the words lieu and tenant not left and tenant.
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>>98836658
The left tenant pronunciation is the older one, based on French, if I remember correctly
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>>98836664
It's because U and V were historically interchangeable hence memes like SOVL.
So it would often be pronounced lev-tenant.
The v changed to an f so it became lef-tenant.
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How do I reach 1k points here as WE?
>x1 Daemon Prince with Brazen Helm
>x1 MoE with Berserker Glaive
>x1 Berserkers
>x1 Jakhals
>x1 Goremongers
>x1 Eightbound
>x1 Maulerfiend
I've no clue how to reach exactly 1k points here.
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First game of 11th today, at the store.
My CSM soup vs my bro's brood brothers GSC
Here is a pic of my pink horrors tarpitting his aberrants for 3 rounds, all according to the keikaku. Over 50% of the split rolls went through, so I ended up fielding all my blue horrors.
I won both minis and points.
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>>98836599
Medieval British struggled to pronounce French words and they got corrupted or we did it in purpose to spite the French. There's a Belvoir castle that everyone calls Beaver castle to this day
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>>98836340
Bro have you seen a Steelhelm?
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Space wolves were cool back in the 2E/3E era. Now they're just gay.
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>>98836664
It's from loanwords often swapping u,v,f and w symbols and pronunciations as well.
"Lieutenant" is a wholly French word, so when the English court swapped to the English language in the 14th century instead of the weird mixture of different French dialects they used before, a lot of pronunciations got fucked up when translating, one of those being the written u in lieutenant becoming an f.
You also have to include the Normand and Aquitainian peculiarities in their dialects that the English court inherited between 1066 and 1300.

You can see this u,v,f,w swap in other languages as well, like in the Russian "avto" vs "auto" in the original Greek.
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>>98836664
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>>98836664
i speak god's language, American. So it's pronounced lou
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>>98836503
I have a feeling they'll be next codex.
Purely because I can see them sitting on model designs just to have something to push every codex update.
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>>98836503

Given with how popular Custards are and how much more popular they're going to be, I wouldn't be surprised if they get a resurrection of many legends units that currently don't exist in the next few years.
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>>98836707
Nobody cares about your dog water opinions about your superiors
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>>98836708
based etymologychad
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>>98836688

Are his aberrants proxies? Look cool either way. I like your horrors but I think I'd like them a lot more if you just did a wash/contrast on them with some crazy color. Like purple, like green, yellow, something like that? I'm just being a nitpicky asshole though, otherwise looking good!
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Which army should I play if I want to be a special snowflake and never play a mirror match
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>>98836741
>special snowflake
Anything other than Space Marines. No, seriously, they're like 50-60% of all players.
>never play a mirror match
Agents
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>>98836741
Maybe AdMech, it's been a while since I've seen an army of those, except for my own.
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>>98836741
GSC
You will be the most special boy in your LGS.
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>>98836730
Yeah his army is ocean-deep themed so it's pretty much all kitbash/proxy. The blue horrors are "done" but I got distracted with my metal LoC and didn't finish the pink ones, what you're seeing is just white primer and a coat (two?) of jokaero orange, my endgoal is to wash them in crimson/magenta and as much gloss varnish as the blue ones.
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>>98836682
Someone answer me?
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>>98836788
more zerker
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>>98836773

Gotcha, also you're based metal loc anon, very nice taste.
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>>98836682
>>98836788
Slaughterbound leading the Eightbound, run the Mauler as a Forgefiend and give it 3 cannons = 1000pts
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>>98836799
He's had a first coat but the base is so white it's hard to take pics of it
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>>98836809

Fuck what a cool model. Metal minis just hit different. I'm going to get a metal squad each of all the Eldar Aspects.
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>>98836822
>Metal minis just hit different
I'm unironically worried I'll never want to bring it to a game because of how heavy it is
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Any 40kg'ers going to worlds?
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Stupid question but could you make your own metal minis using plastic recast molds?
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>>98836809
Why are people pretending this models looks good? It’s looks like something out of Cow and Chicken, hella ugly regardless of modeler skills.
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>>98836827
>I'm unironically worried I'll never want to bring it to a game because of how heavy it is
Meanwhile I used to run 6 PE, along with a spam of sisters.
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>>98836852
Don't know about plastic recast molds specifically, but yes, you can absolutely investment cast your own metal miniatures using molds made from appropriate materials that will withstand having molten lead poured into them.
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>>98836852
Yes you could recast out of metal, casting pewter isn't hard, the hardest part is making the cast itself as an amateur who doesn't know how to lay out a metal cast.
Be mindful of melting temperatures and heat retention, if your recast moulds aren't able to handle the temperatures needed for pewter/lead/tin, it obviously won't work.

You might want to scrounge around the internet for advice on metal casting in general, it's a very niche hobby but it does exist. I own a lead chess set that was made by my Boy Scout scoutmaster on old school 2-part steel casts, those people still exist and will have the info you want/need.
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>>98836248
Will attached guard still kill their commissar if they fail a morale check?
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>>98836870
Pewter is a lot easier to work with and only gives you stannosis instead of making you retarded.
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>>98836852
Technically yes, but not really. Plastic behave differently than metal when casting, so molds need to be different. You'd need tome engineering knowledge how to do that. But sure, if you have time, money and enough determination, then yes.
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>>98836688
Are those diving suits kitbashed? They look cool
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Idea: Armory world that doesn't produce many munitions but acts as a planet-sized storage facility for various fronts. The admech & munitorum personnel pride themselves in being only 10 years late to respond & deliver goods, mostly due to the fact that they've thrown out many of the requests made based on arbitrary criteria and random chance. The fabricator general is in good with the inquisition and often gets commissioned for custom made arms & armor from rogue traders, who see his gear as a status symbol that doubles as a reliable weapon. Of course, things aren't all cushy as a cult has existed in the underhive since M39, only kept at bay by the fact that the cult has divided into subcults that can't decide on a single god to swear fealty to. Undivided cultists are seen as fence sitting pussies. The world may not be a paradise, but for the most part the segments that aren't dedicated to storing enough bombs, bullets, and 'blades to Cadia the planet are pleasant enough, with cool weather and many untainted waters.
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>>98836809
Based always loved that model
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Has any of your dudes earned a name or a title from gameplay?
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>>98836852

Not using moulds meant for plastic no. GW used metal moulds to make resin casts, but it won't work the other way around.

Apparently it's actually not that hard to make moulds for pewter, it's usually just a higher grade of silicone. Vulcanized rubber is used for a different method.
>>98836878
Scout master sounds cool, as long as he didn't grape you of course!
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>>98836862
Bro don't you have some hellblasters to finish
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>>98836925
I dubbed my Prince "the cursed" because he failed all his dark pact rolls and high-rolled the resulting MWs each time in a previous game.
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>>98836925
My Leman Russ Commander got the name Phoenix of Cadia because it always seems to roll deadly demise
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>>98836930
I mean yea but what does that have to do with anything? I’m working on them.
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>>98836916
They're rotswords with diver helmets and some coral
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>>98836916
and the backpacks are from those aos steampunk dwarves
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how many terminator do I want?
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>>98836955
0 unless your detachment is good with them
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>>98836955

30 even if your detachment is bad with them.
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>>98836955
As many as the rule of three will tolerate, if you think they're sick as hell and are willing to find a way to make it work.
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>>98836955
Reject Terminators
Get 30 Aberrants
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>>98836538
>which way should I go with?

Just B yourself.
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>>98836943
So finish them instead of ban evading
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>>98836965
based, I got 5 more coming tomorrow.
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>>98836538
Which do you hate less, freehanding hazard stripes or freehanding incomprehensible Chaos gibberish?
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>>98836955
Two units of 5 to squeeze into small areas via rapid ingress. One 10 plus 2 character brick to waddle on to centre.
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>>98836989
Okay thanx for the tip now mind your business
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you guys ready for iron warrior battleforce?
1 rhino
1 vindicator
1 predator
10 legionaries
get rid of all those rhino plastic before legend them all in 11th codex
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>>98836803
But I want a Mauler, not a Forge
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>>98836941
rip, but on on point for chaos dicking with their champions
>>98836942
Isn't that kind of a reverse of a phoenix? Rebirth after death vs taking out others in death.
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What's everyones' favorite Imperial Agents line infantry? I don't have a lot of choices for just straight up bodies in my faction.
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I have decided that "hrud" is an umbrella term for 3 related races: the skavengers, the bendies, and the stryxis who represent something in-between the two.

Thanks for reading my blog.
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>>98837055
Kek love that meme
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>>98837055
I like the Arbites. I don't know if they're good, but I think they look cool and they have shotguns.
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>>98837063
I don't get the hype around the hrud.
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>>98837094
That’s because there isn’t any
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>>98837094
It's all one retard astroturfing them
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>>98837055
SoB can take an immolator as a transport which is important to remove cover if you don't have that effect in your main army, and they are reasonable since they can split into 2 squads of 5 and they have the Objective Secured special rule. Just a solid 100 points if you care about objectives.

I'm putting this together using stuff I already own so I can say I play Agents, and it's by no means good, but it will sit on objectives so you can win some games.
https://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/UvEiq
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Just starting my collage entry
I'm 90% sure meltas count as an energy weapon
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>>98837105
It’s alright, most people are doing something Spooky anyway so these girls will fit right in.
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>>98836992
How many do you need?
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>>98837094
There isn't any. They're a brick wall that Peter Turbo smashed his face into during the Great Crusade and that's about it.
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>>98835328
>Whats your favorite legends unit?
The Repressor
>>98837113
Hell yeah
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I'm getting the new custodes combat patrol next saturday and learn the codex to get the first low point games in. I think I'm even excited guys, let's see how quickly GW manages to kill the excitement off
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>>98837094
There isn't any, at best some people hope against hope that they'll mean space skaven will get made, they won't, while I'm just autistic and need to put things in order and talk about my special interests.
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>>98836852
You might be interested in this.
>Make a mold with original plastic
>Make a wax figure for loss casting
I went down this rabbithole before, but never pulled the trigger because I'm probably liable to burn my garage down.
https://youtu.be/t2H_lV8IOyY
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I LIKA DA ORKS LE ECKS DEE XDDD
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>>98837116
I got 10 already so I'm actually set with 15, I'll probably grab Goliath Gangers if I need more. I got enough bits and this way you'll get 10 aberrants instead of 5 for the same price. I got these for only 13 euros via the combat patrol magazine.
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>>98837168
I've got 10 atm and 5 unassembled, will probably just leave it at 15 unless i feel like running 2x10 bricks which might be a little unnecessary
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Looking to get into Genestealer Cults. Are they fun? I'm not interested in the detachments that mix in IG or Tyranids.
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>>98837168
Aberrants are smaller than old guardsmen.
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>>98837208
No they are JUST
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>>98837208
I love them but I can't in good conscience recommend it to anyone currently. The current rules we have are shit and they need to be reworked, merely changing the points will not fix the faction. We don't know when the codex will arrive so you may be stuck with not so great ruless for a while.
It's also expensive as fuck, I was able to score some good deals via the used market and kitbashing characters.
You'll be painting a lot of models, and they're full of small details so painting will take some time.
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>>98837208
To be honest last time I had fun times with GSC was during 9th and when playing 3rd/4th.
10/11th has nothing of interest to me.
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>tfw all of the gsc bros are here

Comfy
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>>98837113
I feel like I've seen far more hellblasters/plasma than spooky though
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>>98836741
imperial agents or chaos knights
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>>98837113
permanent
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Uughhh.....SOVL
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>>98837105
Newer models are so monopose that a glance didn't notice they where the old metal sisters.
Cool. Bitch to get more of those metal models when you are not from the USA or Europe
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>>98837308
Go away
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>>98837327
Nah, I'm not permanently banned so I don't need to go anywhere
You however, reddit's waiting
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>>98837314
aren't wargames exclusive limos deceptively small?
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if there are no good guys in 40k, what is the worst thing Isha has ever done?
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>>98837366
Being an Eldar
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>>98837366
Not given Leman Russ a son yet
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>>98835382
https://skeb.jp/

You can pay japanese artists money to make porn for you.
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>>98837395
Leman Russ is gay though we've been over this
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>>98837403
all primarchs are gay except, ironically Fulgrim, but nobody believes him
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>>98837366
Didn't cure baldness
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>>98837403
to be precise he also fucks dogs so he's a homosexual zoophile
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>>98837366
I would actually read/watch a romance manga/anime about Isha and Mortarion.
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yeah i think what this edition is lacking is fun terrain
so that the board isn't saturated with invisible cyclopean towers of adamant stretching endlessly towards the stars
with a single row of windows on the first floor
and n door
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I’m torn between wanting the LotD to come out sooner so I can get my ha ds on them sooner or wanting them to come out later to clear more of my backlog first.
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>>98837366
Didn't purge all non-eldar life from the galaxy (she and eldar in her name actually created various bioweapon, such as that ship in blackstone fortress)
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>>98837366
Isha can leave at any time, but she'd rather stay with Nurgle because she'd rather be with a creepy guy who literally feeds her shit than the vile serial-rapist who will murder-rape and then rape-murder her with a horsecock, literally
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>>98837441
anon btfo by decalfag
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>>98837445
there are no wolves on fenris

he's actually a xenophile
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>>98837451
Good news
GW is so mercurial it could come out next week or by december.
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>>98835622
They aren't corrupted by chaos. They are being piloted by a chaos entity. A hermit crab situation.
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>>98837072
They do look really sick.
>>98837104
Thankfully I play sisters already so I have a bunch of models for them. They're kinda what I was leaning toward. Them or Deathwatch, but Deathwatch are so fucking expensive.
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>Vashtorr jobbed to a single ultramarine
embarassing
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>>98837547
Marines are just based and primaris are king
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>>98837208
This is the age of the marine right now.
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Legnought
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Any Vallejo TMM enjoyers here? Its gold set seams like buy once and you're set for life kinda product.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGFkUpGvRHI
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Worked a little more on this piece. I'm thinking the tatoo should be some ork crossbones. Can't decide if it should be white or black though, don't see a lot of orks with tatoos. Maybe red would stand out more?
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>>98837630
kek, did you sculpt the bodies yourself?
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>>98837637
I did some sculpting yeah. Not my area of expertise I admit.
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>>98837500
One of them gave itself fully to chaos as much as a necron could possibly do.
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>>98837680
Kek
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>>98837675
the book played with almost one version for each god
>nurgle-crons: just normal necrons with nurgle shit growing onto and into them
>khorne-crons: necrons pushed to become destroyers and pointed at targets
>slaanesh-crons: necrons that have been fed and project illusions of wholeness
>tzeentch-crons: necrons with warpfire powering their inner and weapon systems
>vashtorr-crons: the final hybrids that will destroy the galaxy in one potential future
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>>98837630
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>>98837680
>>98837692
>>98837464
>>98837441
permanent means permanent
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>>98837680
Leeman Russ is a gay homo that gives rimjobs to his legion
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>>98837713
The samefagging is kinda sad. I guess it's lonely in that car.
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>>98837713
Im not the decalfag I just thought that was funny
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>>98837723
You've already been proven to samefag multiple times
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khorne rules!!!
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>>98837759
Yeah!!!
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>>98837759
>let's jam nails into our brains guys!
fucking retards
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>>98837799
at least they're not taking knots into their butts
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>>98837462
Your kind has the strangest fetishes, saaar
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>>98837799
>>98837822
permanent
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>>98837822
meant for >>98837822
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Im a bitter fuck that hates everyone with thin veneer of approachable and comptence, which chapter and/or warband is for me. Xeno recommendations fine too
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>>98837630
Red is going to be lost on the mini. It will have to be white or black.
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>>98837841
Space Wolves
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>>98837841
>Im a bitter fuck that hates everyone with thin veneer of approachable and comptence
you'll find yourself at home amongst guardfags and marinefags
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>>98837841
world eaters
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How do I get a 40k gf?
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>>98837882
You know this wench is against giving head
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>>98837882
You compete with the other 50 dudes at your lgs
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I finally have a job that pays well enough for me to start my own army, be honest with me anons how is the state of 40k for total newcomers right now? My LGS is somewhat dooming and glooming about it but the same number of people still play every week.
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>>98837894

I would pound that girl through the mattress, a proper hate fuck, because she reminds me so much if an ex and that would complain about giving a blow job while expecting you to make her cum 3 times eating her pussy.
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>>98837913
It's fine, I just started the hobby myself maybe 3 months ago. Is it expensive to get in? If you look at it all at once, yes. But when you're starting out it's going to take you a long time to paint your first few units, especially if you experiment with and refine your techniques. Don't worry about the rules. By the time you finish your first 1000pts they will likely be different. Just get what you think looks cool. Models are forever, rules are temporary. Buying used also helps the cost somewhat, though it depends on your local LGS and market. You can also go get recasts from Ivan or Mr. Xi.
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>>98837913
People bitch and moan about how shit 40k is every time the rules change, which amounts to "continuously" since they get adjusted every few months, but none of them switch to model-agnostic alternative rules like OPR. Curious.
Anyway, even if things are rough now, by the time you get your guys assembled and painted most of the glaring issues will have been patched and there'll be new glaring issues for people to whine about.
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>>98837882
Typically you can junction your GF at a save point
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>>98837882
This woman has HR eyes
Like she can't wait to make a rule against washing your meal prep containers in the break room
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>>98837930
>but none of them switch to model-agnostic alternative rules like OPR
For all the complaints about nu-40k having no flavour, OPR has even less.
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>>98837913
It depends on the army, here's what my list costs at MSRP. But again I've collected stuff over the course of two years, and got many stuff from the used market and kitbashed some. I probably spent about $600 or so.
As always never buy directly from GW, most retailers have a 20% off from the MSRP.
There's the cost of hobby supplies though, you'll be spending about $200 on paints, brushes, primers and so on more or less.
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>>98837937
Only so much you can fit on one page, I guess.
I've always seen the game primarily as something to do with your minis after you're done painting them and an excuse to hang out with fellow hobbyists in a structured environment and show off your work, so the rules have to be pretty bad for that to no longer be viable.
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First Blasters status: ready for basing.
It has been a long and arduous process, but we are almost there.
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>>98837938
>my guard lists are cheaper than a GSC list at GW prices
Grim
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>>98837938
>notoriously expensive armies like GSC are still about the same price as a Glock, an optic, and a case of FMJ practice ammo
I'm starting to think that Warhammer isn't actually expensive, people are just broke as hell
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should they bring back necron pariahs?
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>>98838002
It’s about who’s interested in Warhammer generally. Warhammer (especially in Europe) attracts kids and adults alike. Affordability is felt more there due to the wider range of consumers. Here in America, Warhammer is much more an adult’s hobby, and while price increases suck, the breakpoints are much higher before it becomes a dealbreaker.
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>>98838002
That price is just the models, not any paint, brushes, basing, cement or any other supplies you'd need.
To continue the gun parallel, it's like if that Glock cost $1200 before you even get ammo, and you still have to take it to a guy to have the slide milled for the optics cut (and pay him) and then buy your optic on top of that.
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>>98838002
Compared to other adult hobbies. Warhammer is cheap. Have to understand that a lot of people into tabletop gaming are jobless.
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>>98838012
Makes sense.

>>98838021
So in the neighborhood of a decent "duty grade" AR15, then.

>>98838029
I've heard how long 2000 point games take, and I can't imagine scheduling that around a full-time job and buying groceries, mowing the lawn, etc. so that tracks
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>>98838039
2k point games take a maximum 2 hours. Unless you are getting slow played. Then you are more than welcome to call that cunt a faggot.
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>>98838039
My 2k games take about 5+ hours, sometimes more. It's more of a social thing rather than just playing the game, checking the rules, looking each others models, chatting with the onlookers. Takes an hour to get to my LGS from my home, and since you'll spend the entire day out we also go for lunch. Basically an event that takes my entire day.
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>>98837759
i fucking love khorne
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>>98837913
It sucks so bad right now GW is down 25% on their stock price, they wiped out half a billion dollars over the last 6 months
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>>98838039
it gets faster the more accustomed you are. Just pre-agree what lists with despositions you're both playing so when either gets to lgs you can start setting up already and not figure out which shitty terrain setup to use. Then the most part is measuring shit and checking visibility if you both know your own rules and combos at least
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>>98837930
>but none of them switch to model-agnostic alternative rules like OPR
Probably because that dogshit is even worse than 40k.
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>>98838039
>decent "duty grade" AR15, then
I'd put it a few hundred over that if that's still like $1500 like it was before I stopped caring about ARfaggotry, but yea close enough to get the message across
>how long 2000 point games take
The longest I've done was 5.5 hours, and that was both of us playing horde armies.
>>98838040
>2 hours
Please tell me how I can make a game take 2 hours with all these infantry on my table and having to roll 30some odd dice every time they get shot at because of weapons having so many attacks now and things giving extra dice like blast, sustained hits and rapid fire
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>>98837913
Ebay is your friend. Especially if you're willing to buy preassembled/primed stuff and strip/break it down. For one of the more frequently-played armies or one with a recent big box you could probably get sub-$200 if you're willing to wait and put a lot of work in.
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>>98837973
Nice work, love beakies
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I have a pistol and an ar, and I also have 5 40k armies. I would say the 40k stuff is by far the better hobby. I spend much more time thinking up lists and looking at fan art and playing the videogames and painting and I even get a few matches in the average month. Meanwhile with firearms I just practice competency a few times a year and I don't think about it much besides that and for the most part it sits in a safe. I post on 40k forums constantly but I have never once posted on a firearm forum. I have a well painted army that people comment on and I get to talk painting all the time, but no one has ever come up to me to say "cool gun". I proudly display my armies in glass travel cases, while my firearms are in a safe and the pistol is under the bedside table. So if I was deciding between the two, I would definitely go for 40k.
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>>98838080
You have an AR and—I reasonably assume—a double-stack striker-fired 9mm with a grip made out of black plastic. No shit nobody's bothered you at the range about them; buy an AUG or something if you want attention, or go shoot competitively where people can see your setup and how well you run it.
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>>98838052
That's the whole stock market except for the ai companies.
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>>98838080
>no one has ever come up to me to say "cool gun"
They would if you owned guns that aren't bog-standard, and more importantly if you went to places where other people talk about guns instead of just shooting. The range is not a place to make friends.
Go to competitions, have "for fun" guns. While I also have my "basics" covered, I'm a milsurp guy at the end of the day; I've run 2-gun competitions with an AR and a G19, I've also done them with a Mauser and a P38. People will talk to you if you stand out.
Don't pick hobbies based on how much people talk to you about them, pick hobbies based on how much (you) enjoy what you're doing.

And before anyone says it, yes I play guard, I'm not beating the allegations.
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>>98838068
I also love beakies, though I do with they had the raised rim around the pauldron. Marines look much better with it.
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>>98838040
You play Knigs or Custards or Termie spam or tank spam. Basically you've just outed yourself as a fag
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>>98838134
"maybe him and his play group all play the same lists week after week and have 3-ring binders to walk themselves through each turn with maximum efficiency and never take breaks to have a drink or look at each other's cool new models or other human interaction stuff"
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>>98838080
Why do you fags always claim your army is well painted but never post it?
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>>98836708
On a very tangentially related note I'm pretty sure I discovered why GW decided to call the Primaris standard bearers "Ancients": turns out the British Army used to use 'ensign' as the lowest rank of commissioned officer, and they were typically given the duty of carrying the regimental colours into battle. Sometime vaguely around the 16th century 'ensign' got corrupted into 'ancient', and so you have 'ancient' referring to the lowest rank of officer who carries a flag into battle - AKA the exact description of the Primaris Ancient.
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>>98838166
You ever seen those videos of Elephants painting? That’s basically him and his army.
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>>98838179
that's cool
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>>98838166
Because its not, obviosly. Ive been here for a couple years and saw very few people that can actually paint
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>>98838179
I thought it was well-known in the 40k community that "ancient" was a historical military position characterized by carrying a flag into battle, but the etymological elaboration is interesting.
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>>98838191
Can you paint?
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>>98838040
If you're going through it as fast as possible with minimal socialization, sure, but for most people that's just not how the game is played.
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>>98838191
Permanent
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>>98838134
No I'm just not a slow player.
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>>98838235
Don’t false flag
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>>98838047

>goblin green bases
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>>98838107
Do you also do that thing where you collect various small casings at the range to use for basing?
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>>98837547
An ultrasmurf that's also a vidya game protag?
It was over for Vashtorr.
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>>98838300
No mostly because I shoot on my own property, I pick up my own casings anyway
I can't imagine using anything bigger than a .22lr for basing, maybe a 9mm Makarov casing at most. I might do that now for my next field ordnance battery, use some .22lr casings for spent artillery shells.
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Now that war organ is dead, what's the best app/program for list building?
When I say best, I mean one that isn't full of adds and doesn't lock basic features behind a paywall like n*wrecruit
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>>98838326
its called notepad and a calculator anon, both come free with your PC software
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>>98838325
I've got a pair of the metal artillery crewmen and .22 is skinnier and slightly longer than their basilisk shell, but not by too much at a distance.
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Votann suck. It was a mistake ever introducing them because now it's impossible to squat them without a thousand people bitching about it, even when they don't collect Votann. And because they'll never be removed, but never be cool, gw will just awkwardly mention them when necessary and occasionally release a new model for them, and no one will really care. They'll just be this repulsive tumor rotting away and will have a light shine on them to remind everyone of this disgusting mistake that can never be cleansed because sunk cost and secondary squealers.
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>>98838339
Boo hoo nigga.
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>>98838339
I like this model.
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>>98838337
>skinnier
This is an issue, and I can't imagine something else being the right size while still keeping the overall look of "traditional rimmed cartridge."
>slightly longer
This is not an issue, you can just cut it to length.
I'd have to hold one next to the other artillery pieces to compare, but as-is I'll probably do something with it.
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>>98838339
Ask Harlequins and Ynnari players how hard it is for GW to squat you. Technically, the Demiurg are already a T'au auxiliary, so it can happen to them, too.
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>>98838351
If trimming to length isn't an issue, then surely .22 WMR is the answer.
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>>98838339
I think Votann are funny because they're short. And the Votann are part of that new Black Templar book with Helbrecht, don't know if the book is any good though since I'm not a Templarfag.
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>>98838359
>Ynnari
You can't squat what never existed. Did ynnari even have any faction specific models besides Yvrainne and Yncarne?
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>vashtorr dies to a smurf
lmao, be'lakor 1, vashtorr 0
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>>98838350
You like the model, and sure, it's a nice model, but do you like the army? Is that model enough to justify building a votann army?
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>>98838369
In one of the Space Sharks books a would-be Vashtorr demon prince dies to a lictor
The Vashtorr situation is crazy
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>>98838361
I mean, sure, but I'm not sure that 0.016 inches is going to visually make a difference (.226 vs .242).
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>>98838380
At a scale where a dude who'd frame-mog Brian Shaw is barely the size of your thumb? Unless you need that brass for reloading it can't hurt to try.
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>You want a piece of me, boy?
>Jacked up and good to go.
>Gimme somethin' to shoot.
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>>98838393
Good point
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>>98838191
hell
bla
sters
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>>98838333
War organ used to give me a pdf with all my strategems, army and detachment rules, and profiles all for free
I guess I can copy/paste from waha but its more work
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>>98838350
Electric buttplug
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>>98838326
>I mean one that isn't full of adds and doesn't lock basic features behind a paywall like n*wrecruit
Newrecruit is fine these days, the stuff behind the paywall is shit that's not that important for listbuilding
>Stratagems
This is probably the only thing that might matter for list building, but only if you need to check what your detachment(s) offer you. You more than likely have a PDF of your codex already, or at the very least the pages with your detachments/stratagems on hand so even then this is not that big a loss.
>Missions
>Deployment Planner
>Game Assistant
This is all shit that only matters when you're actually playing the game and is already handled by other shit like the official GW app (Also not relevant to list making)
>Rules Search
That shit's what the Core Rules is for. Again, not necessary for list building.
>No ads
It's 2026 you are already using an adblocker
>Custom names/views
Superficial stuff, I don't need to rename my Hellblasters as Knotyiffers in order to make a proper list
>Miniature Matching
If you need pictures to go with your listbuilding and keep track of what models you own you might be retarded
>Presets
Wow you get to save a unit comp that took maybe a minute at most to set up and copy it to other lists, amazing.
>Discord role
lol. lmao even.

If they still had the function of adding characters to units behind a paywall like they did in 10th I'd agree with you, but if all you need to do is cobble up a list to see if the points line up and export it else somewhere else it's fine these days.
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>>98838394
At least post other troops, which actually looks like SC units (Agressors for example).
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It's been so long since I've seen classical, unironic edge that I actually laughed out loud
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eldar are oddly an expensive army for what the faction is supposed to be
their points to cost ratio should be similar to thousand sons
making them semi-cheaper army would defiantly clear those unsold elves on the shelf
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>>98838429
>Need a light?
>Fire it up!
>Let's burn!
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>>98838431
You don't like paying $120 for a Warlock Conclave?
Most factions need some amount of help, and Eldar prices being normalized a bit would go a long way. The Warlock box is just the most egregious example I could think of.
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>they timed it to the last 2 seconds and outbidded me again
It has to be a bot.
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>>98838446
>>98838431
>custodian combat patrol is 900 points of models for 177 dollars, or 146 on ebay
>GW wonders why 350 point CPs sell worser
I literally do not see how it harms their bottom line to just throw armies like dark eldar a bone, put an extra 10 wracks in that box, or produce some plastic grosteques as a one-off thing.
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>>98838431
Wraiths are pretty expensive points-wise aren’t they? When I figured to start an Eldar army once upon a time they were really the only unit that stood out to me. If they released more variants I just might have to start one.
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>>98838430
It's not "shas'o coldsteel" but if you like T'au getting completely mindbroken by the grim dark future then "Fire Caste" by Peter Fehervari will be right up your alley
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>>98838421
>using an adblocker
Tons of retards and normalfags still did not figure out what we figured out when we were teens.
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How is your collage submission coming along?
I was going to submit a dred but I think I might just submit this guy instead.
(He does have a plasma pistol)
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>>98838462
Submit this guy he’s total kino brother
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>>98838462
Only the sarcophagus itself left, but I'm swamped at work and can't get proper painting time at all.
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>>98838394
>>98838445
>GW tries to fish some SC-fans with Votann and some Primaris models
>11th edition instead kills all interest in Votann, Eldar and Nids with SC providing healthier alternative
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>>98838454
If Dark Eldar are supposed to be a horde army now the least they could do is give them 20-man bricks of Wracks again instead of locking them to 10. They literally just doubled the number that come in a box from 5 to 10 as well.
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>>98838369
>Calling Malum Caedo *a* smurf
He is not just a smurf, he is THE Ultra Smurf, he is Matt Ward's strongest champion.
You cannot fathom the true power of Madlad Caedo, and neither can Vashtorr, more like trashtorr
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>>98838473
GW has been constantly gay and retarded for their entire existence
>don't support models
>wonder why they don't sell
>give some armies giga bundle boxes 50% of the army for 200 bucks
>other armies are like 1500 bucks to actually collect and have shit rules
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>>98838470
Fuck me that's clean. Well done.
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>>98838471
eldar have little to do with protoss except psychic powers and sucking at warfare, and that mostly applies to craftworlders since they suck, corsairs and exodites win some, harlequins always win, dark eldar only lose when the kabal was sent to die on purpose because they displeased vect.
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>>98838456
compare it to 1ksons where a single squad of 5 terminators is 200pts
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>>98838477
It's not a coincidence that all the least popular armies are the most expensive ones. But some army archetypes are always going to be more expensive to produce and purchase than others with larger model counts.
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>>98838454
Custodes are the welfare army in every way, GW intentionally makes them this way to get people into the brand.
They don't care about "equal attention" between armies, and they are deathly allergic to trying to play into the value proposition comparison. It's just "how do we get more sales" with as little thought and as much short-term planning as possible.

The current guard combat patrol is 285 points. 120 of that (42.1%) is horse cavalry.
If GW wanted this combat patrol to be a GOOD purchase, they could increase its point cost by 40 and just swap the 10 Attilans for a Leman Russ. But they won't, because it's just moving inventory that didn't sell. Most combat patrols are like this.
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>>98838486
>protoss
>sucking at warfare
Hardly, they aren't jobbing in their own campaign, unlike Eldar in their codex.
>corsairs and exodites win some,
Yeah Yrel against Huron?
But you]ve misssed the point
>11th edition
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>>98838490
Orks, Nids, and Necrons are pretty popular but also had the benefit of being in combos boxes
they think all these other armies have the potential to be as popular as Guard where they're a horde, very popular, and never even needed a boast from a combo box but end up giving up on them when that obviously isn't possible
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>>98838496
>It's just "how do we get more sales"
Well GW is commercial enterprise after all.
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>>98838431
>>98838446
>>98838454

Cost for one of my Eldar 2k lists I was thinking about is like $1300cad (roughly 1kusd) and I already have 300 points of it. Almost $70 for a box of aspects. Vehicles are out of stock or being scalped for $100+. There's things for pretty much $1cad per point.
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>>98838470

Posts like your make me feel like a shit painter, but also inspires me to get better. Really cool anon.
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How would you model an Ordos Xenos aligned imperial guard force specifically tailored to fighting tyranids?

I am feeling inspired after reading the Anphelion Project imperial armour book by forgeworld

I'm thinking maybe sealed hazmat style armour to better protect them from toxins/organics/their own chemical weapons and a focus on flamer/chemical weaps. Imagine a black, armoured hellhound spewing green fire into a horde of nids
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>>98838523
>How would you model an Ordos Xenos aligned imperial guard force specifically tailored to fighting tyranids?
Votann but taller
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>>98838511
Are you just playing dumb or do you genuinely not get it

The point of me saying it in the exact way that I did, with the exact words that I did, was to say that if given the choice between
>100 dollars every day
>300 dollars every other day
GW would pick the 100 dollars every day despite the basic math suggesting you'd make less money this way, suggesting that they as a company have an incredibly high time preference and are short-sighted. That's what the words "short-term planning" refers to.
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>>98838521
Thanks, but for what it's worth, nothing in that pic is particularly advanced. Just staying within the lines and edge highlighting, skills that are very easy to get good at.
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>>98838496
>the army with amenic lore and characters, and zero presence in any games or campaigns is supposed to the one thats an entry point
crazy, but i guess its even crazier they make eldar this expensive >>98838518 while still shitting on them in the lore whenever they can
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I will not elaborate further (Pretend Marines/Orks/Custodes are their 11th Edition boxes)
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You know what 40k needs? It needs to be cool. Fuck all this "boo hoo i'm a sad bitch" lore storytelling with complex characters, i want pure nonstop action with major shitshows like an Ork Waagh, a major Hive Fleet (Behemoth comes back cause red nids are coolest nids) + the biggest GSC outbreak, damn near every imperial guard regiment at the same time, at least 1 million space marines, damn near every class of space ship out in the planet's orbit, craftworld biel-tan, every bit of chaos, the votann and their not!unicron planet eater, the mechanicus (including that one Man of Iron that pretends to be a servitor, who then goes ballistic and its cool), 3 custodes who are still fighting without their armor (they got blown up but tanked it) and a whole coven of sororitas, all fighting whatever they see on sight and doing cool oneliners all while the planet is cracking in half and the only reason anybody is there is damn near meaningless other than funneling every single battle into a single planet (The rest of the galaxy somehow becomes peaceful relatively speaking) and everybody dies at the end but the last scene is the last one fighter of each army using their last bit of power to raise a banner.
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>>98838535

Don't sell yourself short, at least for some of us painting that straight and clean like that is a long road, sometimes with physical hurdles.
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>>98838544
Shit list, I will not elaborate further.
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>>98838531
>That's what the words "short-term planning" refers to.
That's not short-term planning if you maintain monopoly, this is why MS easily got away with any bullshit, Millenium, Vista, Internet Explorer, X-box One etc and etc.
GW's priority is stable flow of income, not some 6d chess, to get slightly more money (they can do it with annual price hike)
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>>98838486
>sucking at warfare
taldarim were so fucking badass they had two separate civil wars and still came made out like bandits.
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What the dog doing
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>>98838462
I mean its pretty well finished but im not overly happy with it. I wanted to get an old one eye head for the platform as this is supposed to be the behemoid undercult but couldn't find one so just went with le spooky skulls
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>>98838462
Wheres the plasma pistol?
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>>98838559
Kek, I love that video
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>>98838496
The point of them is to technically provide a "discount" but to not actually make the value good enough that anybody would buy multiple or buy them to split up and resell. The old IG start collecting for example was good value but it also meant there was basically no reason to ever buy an individual infantry squad or leman russ kit
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>>98838579
All numbers are at GW prices
>guard combat patrol is $177
>Kasrkin and Cadian Command Squad on their own is $116.50
>Attilans are $67.50 per 5
The ONLY reason to buy the guard combat patrol is if you want to run a 10-man unit of Attilans, who are extremely far from the meta and I have never seen on a table, even my own.
As it stands, there is no reason to buy the guard combat patrol, so we're instead at the other extreme.
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>>98838523
The hazmat suits are a good idea, but chemical weapons are particularly bad against nids in lore, in very old editions they were even immune to poison and most types of gas. Flamers are actually not great against them either because it takes a little while to fully burn one to death and if in synapse range they just keep fighting until they die, so unlike other armies like orks or humans which run around in panic and agony while on fire, Tyranids just continue ripping you apart while also burning you now.

What you actually want are weapons with good logistics (mutli-lasers, lascarbines, stuff that has high ammunition efficiency/rechargable batteries) for the swarms, and high stopping power and armour penetration for the bigger bugs. Remember actually beating Tyranids entails killing the synapse creatures, which are often huge monsters as big and tough as Custodes or Dreadnoughts, so you need elite-killer gear, with just enough anti-swarm to keep the little ones at bay until you manage to kill the brainbugs.
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Any hope for an Eldar Corsairs themed army box? I want to paint some xenos that aren't NPCs
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>>98838600
i could see it being one of the christmas battleforces
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>>98838600

They have two Corsair boxes already though? I want my dino riders in a box.
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>>98838575
I’m so fucking bored man
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>>98838608
Just buy a killteam box
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>>98838608
They do? Which ones? And why am I a retard that didnt know about them?
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>>98838626
Wait nevermind, I used google and found them. Thanks >>98838608 !
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How much corpse is corpse starch? Is it legit bodies ground up into pink mcnugget paste or do they perform some process that separates out the nutrients from the people parts?
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>>98838639
It's the former. Necromunda has an entire faction of workers who collect and process corpses for the starch.
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>>98838047
>Angron, and his brother, Angriaron
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>>98838639
It's the Imperium, which is notoriously so shit that people will submit to the Greater Good for two hots and a cot, so I assume that it's mostly starch with the minimum amount of "corpse" possible to meet the labor/war units' protein needs.
I.e., they're not engaging in straight cannibalism because human Spam would be too luxurious for Guardsmen and factorium workers
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>>98838639
It actually varies, which is the answer to most of these sort of questions. Different planets have different types of corpse starch. We have some examples where it's literally bodies, but we have other examples where the human corpses are mostly used as fertilizer for what ends up being a mostly mushroom/fungus based canned food.
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>>98838639
Considering the whole "prion disease" thing and the fact it's called *starch*, chemical reorganization to the base nutrients as a powder is the only "realistic" response, and thus would be wholly unrecognizable as being made of people.

But it's also made up and doesn't have to be realistic, so it's asspull of whatever the current story wants it to be. It's one of the more grimderp things anyway, frankly, and I find it detracts from the setting via believability. There are more efficient ways to get food in places, but those aren't grim and dark enough, so we have to eat corpses instead. No amount of "the Imperium is despotic and evil" can make up for objective reality on space-efficient protein sources like legumes (ie peanuts) that can be processed and transported en masse far easier than corpses.
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>>98838600
What makes corsairs unique compared to craftworlders or deldar?
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I suppose I’m as good as any so let’s get ourselves a model post going in this thread.
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I could use some corpse starch right now
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>>98838671
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>>98838671
Jeez Louise this is impressive
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>>98838676
nigga we got real food, it's right over there
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>>98838669
>legumes (ie peanuts) that can be processed and transported en masse far easier than corpses
Nigga agri worlds aren’t enough to feed hive worlds. It’s why those niggas eat corpse starch in the first place. You sound like an idea guy from the upper hives
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>>98838683
Ty man
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>>98838669
Introducing entire worlds to a gift of Nurgle called "kuru" because you couldn't be bothered to provide them with anything resembling actual food would be one of the most Imperium-coded things imaginable, so...
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>>98838671
Freehanding space wolf players only. Sorry buddy.
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>>98838639
Depends on the planet, or more likely hive, in question.
Not every imperial society has its people living in giga-oppression misery, you see some people living basically normal middle class lives in the Eisenhorn series, for example. But in hives and manufactorum worlds they would absolutely grind people into paste and work 18 hours shifts.
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Tell me this photo doesn’t belong into the Space Wolf codex I swear man..
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>>98838684
:(
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>>98838704
you deserve to be repeatedly beaten with a length of rubber hose
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>>98838707
>food: :(
>food (people): :D
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>>98838708
Dude I’m trying to be serious for a minute, try and act professional for once.
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>>98838713
fuck off and die, retard
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>>98838704
Dude if you’re the Thousand Suns and you see this drop on your planet without warning??…you’re shitting yourself..
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>>98838718
Why are you so obscenely hostile 24/7?
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If you are gonna pretend to be him at least post a new photo.
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>>98838556
>>98838503
protoss lost their homeworld and 80% of the population died in the zerg invasion, from the SC1 handbook
they suck
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sisters character models are insanely detailed....this tiiiny model tool me a fee hours to paint
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>>98838670
They get a unique vehicle, and 5 unique infantry units
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>>98838670
baller ass style.
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>>98838608
first they need the kill team individual box
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>>98838713
>Professional
>On 4chan
Totally showing you belong
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>>98838778
Kinda looks like it was placed in paint remover for a few minutes after being painted.
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>>98838776
>80% of the Khalai population
fix
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Would you still love me if I was a Genestealer
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>>98838876
80% of 4chan posters claim to be software engineers wfh 300k a year.
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>>98838896
I don't love you now
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>>98838903
I'm a professional momfucker and yours is my best customer.
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>>98838896
Maybe if you're that callidus who got semi-perma tfed into a genestealer hybrid. How good do you look in a bodysuit?
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>>98838878
:(
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kek
It costs 72 bucks for 5 deathwatch guys from the GW store
People are selling the DW boxes with the Blackstar for only 130 bucks. And that comes with tons of extra bits and shoulder pads.

GW, the fuck are you doing?
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>>98838983
losing stock prices
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>>98838953
>tfed
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>>98838962
The banner has more red coverage where it shouldn't be than where it should.
Looks possibly like you spilled nuil oil on it by the texture and pooling on the base and banner pole.
Flesh paint all over the shoulder.
It's not really a race against the clock brother.
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>>98838326
what's the best app for keeping track of score etc during the game?
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>>98838326
Give warmind a try

>>98839100
Tabletop battles, although i think you can do it through the 40k app now
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>>98838462
I don't have any wip photos right now but I'm almost done base coating some raptors. I've been taking it too slowly if we're being honest, but it'll get done by the end of the month.
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>>98838983
All that and you won’t even use them in a Deathwatch list, no one’s using the battleline units in their lists that those guys are made into in 40K.
Just Indomiter teams, terminators, and whatever the Phobos one is called I can’t remember.
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>reading lore sections of Space Marine codex
>Titus’s promotion to Captain happens before the Plague Wars
Space Marine 3 is gonna involve the Deathguard and Mortarion, I’m calling it.
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>>98838671
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>>98839182
Which xeno species will be relegated to opening for the CSMs this time?
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>>98839192
orks obviously since they have infinite numbers like the nids do
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>>98839192
Ynnari
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>>98839117
Thanks anon, that's perfect. I didn't realize the goonhammer guys made an app and all my friends use the GW one I don't care for.



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