Nehekhara slow life edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Battle March General's Compendiumhttps://mega.nz/file/tP5STCAS#4yDuu8WLk-Mn4Ut2pe7x7AWwxJmEjXW5cvV0xtwMWD4>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous thread:>>98836765>>Thread question:How do you consider the Arcane Journal format now that it's been around for a couple years?
>>98853220>How do you consider the Arcane Journal format now that it's been around for a couple years?wish they werent so hard-wired on 48 pages, so that some could be expaned a bit.
Are you team sand or team basing paste?
>>98853220>TQDon't hate it but I would have preferred full army books instead of the FoF/RH + faction-specific AJ with the AJ's coming after all the factions got their stuff
More green fluff
>>98853269Why not both?
so the latest release is skeletons done worse than other manufacturers at x5 times the price? does james know places like wargames Atlantic exist?
>>98853321doesnt matter, they already sold out here.
>>98853321I don't think people share your idea that they're done worse than other manufacturers
>>98853269i regret doing complicated bases on my armies, waste of time. sand and a tiny bit of flock is the good pick
>>98853321You do get more skeletons in the GW box
>>98853220>How do you consider the Arcane Journal formatThere was a novelty to it at first but it’s kinda shown it’s a shitty format to deliver on. Also the magic changes were kinda awful to keep track of, do people actually play with it?
>>98853220>>>Thread question:>How do you consider the Arcane Journal format now that it's been around for a couple years?terrible on all front except for gw's flexibility in releasing shit without having to rely on making new editions of the respective army's main book, or white dwarf articles or online pdfs which are always a hassle to keep track of.But all in all is absolutely shitty because the low number of pages means there's very little content, it's often written so bad it reads like a bot asked to fill in space by rephrasing the same text over and over, and there are already too many to keep track of for some armies.If they want to keep going with the journal format they have to introduce either a yearly compendium for the previous ones, or make new editions of a certain army's book whenever there are more than 3 journals for it.
>>98853213if they are pre-selling the preorder date then they have breached their stockist contract with GW, there was a store in London that had all GW stock withdrawn for doing it.
Is there a Wrecker's Point pdf floating around?
>>98853387not yet no
>>98853220>TQHonestly a fan. So far its meant more updates more often, and most all of it felt optional, in a good way.
I'm gonna do it
>>98853425You better post em when they print, and when you douse them in rhinox hide.
>>98853326>Sold out>Not available to order yetThanks, bot. Now write me a limerick about Malekith being a mommy's boy.
>>98853220>TQToo much paper and documents; a bit like 40k's Codices bloat.I hope 2nd edition brings back the proper Armybooks.
>>98853527Apparently they’re very successful, I wouldn’t expect it due to army books being unable to be printed locally due to their higher page count.
>>98853387Is there even anything worth it in the Wrecker's Point book or is it just the Sylvania one all over again?
>>98853634Unless you're a GM or just really into the lore, not really, it has way more Stat Blocks than the Sylvania one, and there is an adventure in the back.It probably should have had some player stuff in it, but I'm really not sure what they could have added to this one. Unlike the Sylvania example, where there is a ton of player stuff to add related to Vampires and the Eastern Empire that could have been used, all the player stuff related to Nordland is already published in other books
>>98853220This guys art is really awesome except for the weird baby skaven he shoves in literally every piece, which ruins it for me.
>>98853225To my knowledge thats the page limit they can do while not having to resort to the chinaman to print it for them.
>>98853660How do you man walls like these? The perimeter looks pretty large compared to the population.
>>98853374>LGS knows they are getting allocated 5 boxes>make a list of 5 people who want boxesThis is what he means almost surely.
>>98853763this.its common practice so take orders/reservations for LGS on the monday after GW announces them. as long as money and product are not exchanged before the official release date, there is no problem.
>>98853748The town is built on the ruins of a bigger city that was the capital of a necromancer kingdom before the Empire was formed.It's very much meant to give the vibe of a small town built into the ruins of a Roman town
lore stuff from the new AJ>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/h4mpf23j/designers-notes-the-river-of-bones-lore/
Lore and shithttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/h4mpf23j/designers-notes-the-river-of-bones-lore/
>>98853802Lmao wood elves are not getting refreshed any time soon if that’s their art
>>98853436I'm printing them as we speak. I'll be painting them in the following days. No rhinox hide though, I don't have any contrast or washes or GW paints for that matter.
>>98853803Wonder why the Grey Mountain orcs and Empire settlements are on the map, but the Grey Mountain dwarf holds like Karak Norn aren't
>>98853803>Dave: It’s these forgotten complexes that Ashurtak has been exploring and plundering on his march through the Vaults, reclaiming forgotten knowledge from lost temples and awakening long-dead legions to bolster his ranks. But what even he perhaps doesn’t know is that such forgotten sites exist further afield still, just waiting to be rediscovered.Oh so it's retroactively setting up Kemmler.
>>98853802Unironically too many women.
Hey anons what non-GW proxy minis have you bought/printed for your armies?
>>98853802I tire of women in Fantasy. Yes, I know that Wood Elves have effectively always had female soldiers and levies in the troops, but eh.
>>98853802we wuz wood elves. Not even weird and freaky fay looking just proper jungle monkeys.
>>98853802not enough women. Im tired of seeing men in fantasy.
>>98853802Tree thing of some sort and ishabti spotted
>>98853967Looks like they're based on the old metal models
>>98853967it's called a tree kin, and it's actually weird noone told me it was undead trees
>>98853976I liked treekin a lot more once I realized they were the spirits of dead Wood Elves animating wood rather than just smaller Treemen.
>>98853802wtf are those faces on the wood elves lmao
>>98854008What do you mean? The art looks great.
>>98853975The ushabti yes but the tree kin looks more jagged than the metal model. Probably the redesigned look
>>98854021They look like fat human women not elves
>>98854029Read what you wrote and look at the image you linked. Are you literally retarded?
>>98854036Are you?
>>98854045I don't think you know what fat women look like.
>>98854066>taking retard bait
>>98854066I don't think you understand how wh elves look like
>>98854029kek that's true, fat and ugly
>>98854068You gotta call out even bait on this website, or they'll run the discourse. Online debates aren't about convincing your opponent, its about influencing the uninvolved who can be swayed.
>>98854082How many more times are you going to samefag? It becomes spam at a certain point.
>>98854078The one on the right is a 3.5, maybe a 4 on the Norwood scale.
>>98854086>everybody I don't like is one guyok fatso
>>98854085Fair enough, I think it’s enough to call retards a retard and leave them be to be retarded alone.
>>98854091Do those elf women make you angry knowing they’d view you as a halfling?
>>98854100I have no idea what kind of schizobabble that is but I'm more than happy to let the figments of your own imagination torture you.
>>98854106Must be difficult being unable to process visual information on any level. I pity you.
>>98854029Certified retard take
>>98854117>said the guy who can't tell a chubby from a lean face
>>98853802>>98853803so barrow kingdoms aren't gonna be not-celts but northern not-egyptians ? I'm disappointed
>>98854157Probably not Galatians that were equipped by the non-Egyptians
>>98854157silly you, barrow kingdoms are gonna be not-chinese undead obviouslywhy, don't you know glorious Cathay colonized the Old World centuries before the Empire and Bretonnia came to birth ?
>>98853802They just can't help themselves can they. >>98854029The art direction notes must be hilarious. >wood elves fighting tomb kings >dynamic lower left, cavalry charge upper left, leave space upper right for text/fill >tomb kings notes: egyptian, kopesh, can you make a chariot work in the woods? >wood elf notes, archers, celtic, dynamic, agile, make sure they're HAES compliant too. >ps add a nig or we'll get in trouble
>>98854127Calm down fatty
>>98854171Darked Elves confirmed!
>>98854169>>98854171Its funny how fantasy lives in your tiny child sized skull completely rent free. To the point of spending all day spamming about it. If you spent as much time working as you did spamming here you’d have enough money saved for that leg lengthening surgery you’ve been eyeing since you were 15
>>98854203The only thing that lives rent free in a mind is me in yours.And I take a shit in there every day.>>98854171I doubt they need to say anything, I'm sure the ppl left working for GW are all pro fag shit or have all made their peace with it.
>>98854225You say that but you’re still here all day every day. You’re like an unpaid fantasy intern working to keep the thread bumped . I’d explain how pathetic that is but i don’t think your tiny brain has the capability to understand.
>>98853832Not really, at this time Kemmler is still out of the picture.They are building up on old lore which stated that Nehekara used to reach all the way to Sylvania and Athel Loren, with many burial sites remaining undisturbed after Nagash's spell.The issue here is that, GW is always inconsistent with its lore, and there's way too many civilisations buried around the old world, some with overlapping concepts:>The ancient burial sites of greater Nehekara, most of which escaped Nagash's spell. The few that came back to life and we're pissed about it. In at least one source they're called the Barrow Kings.>The burial sites of the barbarian tribes that lived when Sigmar was around. They buried their dead in full battle gear and have more of a late Bronze age vibe. These are the Armies of the Cairns that the Lichemaster went around molesting back in 6th edition.>The burial sites of the primitive tribes that first inhabited the old world. Stone age people, mostly located around Sylvania and pretty much fully dug out already as cheap fodder for the vampire counts.So yeah, Kemmler's exploits are entirely separate from Settra's expedition and I don't think GW will really want to go for something more VC yet. I'd love to have the Cairn legion army list back, but it's more likely that we'll see a much less interesting tomb kings list with a gimmick or two.
>>98854227Leave the manlet alone. Elves and women trigger him individually. Elf women? Forget about it.
You can really tell that some people's bans expired today.Shame, we had a comfy weekend.
>>98854227What can I say? I need a place to shit, might as well be in your head.
>>98854227Post physique.
>>98854248I think it's more due to news coming out, which attracts trolls, rather than bans expiring
>>98854171I'm surprised you're making such a big deal of that and not the near coal-black Bretonnian peasant archer that showed up in the Border Princes, AJ
>>98854254That too, it's probably both, as the weekend was definitely quiet.
>>98854203>in your head The art is right there dude. They've been doing this for years at this point. Pretending there's no agenda when its that blatant hurts your cause more than you think.>has to make it about manlets or something Is this the new >have sex sort of nothing deflection?>>98854298>making a joke about marketing and how it effects art direction >making such a big deal Didn't think of it that way but I can see how people who are overly sensitive could take like that. Are we not allowed to point out absurdities and discuss art? Not familiar with the new Border Princes stuff, what is it?
>>98853220>People here laughed when i called the Tomb kings vs wood elves would be the next thingEat shit
>>98854331when did you do so?
>>98854320it was the War of Settra's Fury book it was the one that had Battle March rules, the Slayer AoI and the Renegade Crowns list in it.It's just kinda funny that a book that's been published for about a year now and has some very obvious black peasants in some of the brand new artwork didn't have anyone commenting on it
>>98854298Black humans were a given nowaydays and people reluctantly accepted it, but black elves? Fuck no
>>98854339Everyone was too focused and the sick-ass Ushabti.
>>98854339>didn't have anyone commenting on itBecause tomb kings are not very popular?
>>98854382The book was 90% other factions besides Tomb Kings.
rats when
>>98854394when you play aos or use legacy rules
>>98854394When you go back to the total war or aos general
>>98854386That's an interesting point. Might be the people who would be just looking for pictures to be mad about aren't going to look that deep and aren't likely buying supplements or reading them when there's enough ragebait to be had with just the warhammer community feed.
I think this is neat.
>>98854508Got a link?I want to read which scheme is for what.
>>98854560Just some dude having funhttps://www.artstation.com/artwork/BkBkyD
>>98854508cathay is pure soul
How long does it typically take to complete a game?How often during a timed setting do you fail to complete a game, and if so, what turn do you get to?
Does anyone have the revised Rulebook pdf?I want to look at the changes done at the Kislev section.
>>98854569That's cool. The guy did good work.
>>98854614Depends on the point value being played.Battle March (500-750) can be an hour or less if you know what you’re doing. 1000 point games can be an ~hour and a half to two hours, with it getting longer the higher you go.I’m not sure about this timed setting thing, no store has ever hassled me to hurry up.
So it's near impossible/ unplayable to have a monogod daemon army? I never liked how mixed daemon armies look like
>>98853527There is never going to be a second edition. They’re just going to revise it forever because that’s more sovlful and what the people who this game is made for want.
>>98854880>They’re just going to revise it forever because that’s more sovlful and what the people who this game is made for want.Delusional. TOW will conform with the 3-year cycle like the other settings.It won't even be like HH, whose 1st edition lasted 11 years, and since 2ed. has adopted the 3-year cycle. TOW 1ed. is already running its last semester, and next year they'll certainly release 2nd..
>>98854699It's possible, it'll also be shit and mind-numbingly boring. Of all the legacy factions, Daemons seem to be the most afterthought list. They made sure the main units had stats and that was it.I do like multigod armies, though, particularly if they're colourful. Brings me back to the good ol' days.>>98854880Wargames as a live service is something that I didn't expect but also didn't surprise me either. The good thing is that old editions are already set in stone and can be played at any time, the bad thing is that most wargamers are neophiliacs that simply won't touch older stuff.
>>98854699Battle march could be the place to run something like that. Yeah, as daemons you get like 4 different units per god, but BM is so small that it would let you take one of each and not notice how limited the army is.It'll still be a shitty army, though.
>>98854615Is it in the Gofile?
>>98854928Uh yeah, TOW 2nd is launching in 2-3 months and they just reprinted the entire Rulebook with errata 2 months ago to last for 5-6 months. Dumbass.
>>98854963I think there is a Rulebook in the gofile, but it's the original release.
>>98853882Bought maxmini's orc army and some of their TT combat paints. Will see how that turns out. It's 91 minis (bunch of orc infantry, 5 boar boyz, 3 trolls and hqs)
>>98854970>TOW 2nd is launching in 2-3 monthsYou clearly misread what I'd posted. I said, 6 months from now (at the earliest) they will release a 2nd edition.> just reprinted the entire Rulebook with errata 2 months ago to last for 5-6 months.Doesn't mean shit. Those errata were released from free on their website as well, and - it seems to me - they happened to make a quick buck in reprinting the Rulebook with the freely-published errata into it. TOW was official released on the last week of January 2024, and the latest errata was revealed in the last week of July of this year. There is nothing and no one stopping GW from releasing 2nd edition next year; even if it's been less than a year since the revised 1ed. Rulebook's release.
>>98854645I mean in like a tournament
>>98855069There is nothing and no one stopping GW from releasing 2nd edition in 4 years. See how pointless your reasoning is? You don’t give any actual reasons as to why it’s concretely going to happen, you only state that we’re on a 3 year cycle and imply that it’s self evident. Yet there’s evidence that goes against any refresh next year, namely the reprinted book. Reprinting a rulebook for 8 months with the FAQ isn’t making a quick buck it would be a waste of resources. Them reprinting means almost certainly that 2nd is still years away.
>>988550962000 point games usually take 3-4 hours. I’ve never seen tournaments time people but then again I only play TOW and MESBG and only locally so there’s never a need to keep time to prevent slow play. If someone is being an abusive cunt intentionally slow playing or being an unsportsmanlike cunt we simply don’t invite them to the next event. That’s a plus of being more tighter nit and smaller than the 40k community
>>98854645Points are almost irrelevant, it depends on the number of units played, the type of army and of course how well the players know the game.
>>98855222It’s really only down to how well both players know the game. Two veterans with massive armies can finish faster than one or two noobs in a game where everything has to be explained or talked through.
>>98855230Sure but two veterans with 1k armies that have 8 units with shit to do in every single phase are going to take 3 times longer to finish a game than they would with 2k armies that have 4 units with 2 spells and no shooting.I have a 2k army of brets with mounted knights only and my games are quicker than my1k games with TK that has every type of unit and does shit every single phase and has multiple bubbles I have to keep checking for all the time.
>>98855179>>98855096>2000 point games usually take 3-4 hours.No way jose; TOW tournaments tend to be 2-2:30 hour long matches.
>>98855100NTA but GW releases every other mainline game edition (don't fuck about with SGS shit it's on the main banner of the website its mainline) within max 12 quarters. No idea why you'd assume GW would act differently just because its your special snowflake system you don't want changed.
>>98853335That one's like $90.
>>98855257>games workshop releases every mainline game every 3 years >ignore that TOW isn’t a mainline game lol ok
>>98855422nta but it did happen to HH. I'm not saying it going to happen to TOW; I think the revised rulebook means the current edition will stick around for a while, but it being a mainline studio game is not a shield from the edition change every three years.
>Want to start a tomb kings army>Like the new skeleton warriors>People say that skeleton warriors are just objectively shit and in general TK infantry is trash and I will not enjoy myself if I spam them
>>98855681well they do look like shit. I prefer them being more chunky
>>98855681If you like em then who gives a shit what other anons say about em?
>>98855681not sure who you are listening to but skeletons are the most meta unit in the TK. Blocks of archers for mortuary cult or the cohorts for royal host are in every tournament winning list for TK. They are unkillable tarpits you can dump priests in and the archer blocks with the amulet of the serpent for poisoned shots are still one of the best range units in the game.
>>98853660Wrecker's Point was obviously something they had in mind since at least Salzenmund & Sea of Claws, but plausibly had a rough concept of since TEW. That it released now and Sylvania came around first is a bit odd, but whatever.
>>98855854They first announced it as a PDF, so it was probably going to be much smaller initially
>>98855681Nigga look up tournament lists. Infantry horde blocks are the literal TK/Undead meta. In royal host you use like a 100 man strong mix of skeleton warriors and archers as your main unit.
>>98855681iirc it's tomb guard who are on the weaker side, normal skellies are super cheap per model and you can revive them
>>98856058Yeah, Invocation is extremely strong in this edition. Big blocks of static res that can be brought back are very good (and very frustrating to play against).
>>98854928>>98854970>>98855069Here's the secret: Revised/1.5 is 2nd edition. They're just calling it "Revised" to keep grogs who want long editions happier. It literally launched in a new starter set with Cathgay and Chaos.
>>98855681TK can win with shittons of skeletons. But it's not very fun to take a block of 40 skeletons. Also, while the new TK stuff is advanced on a technical level, they are now far more complicated to paint than the previous skeletons, who you could drybrush and wash 100 of in a day or two. Now they each have shittons of fabrics and details. So I kind of agree, you probably won't enjoy things unless you're specifically a huge WAACfag who enjoys the dopamine rush of winning no matter how excruciating the actual gameplay is.
>Drive an hour to 3 different lgs.>Literally no old world stuff, barely any 40k stuff.Remind me why I try to be a fan of this stuff in a shitass third world country?
>>98856269What country?
>>98856591Peru
>>98856601Oh yeah.. can't help you
>>9885333578 > 107Maths not a strong point?
>>98856644Take it easy with him, he's probably American.
>>98853332Post a better skeleton still in production
>>98856601You shouldn't, plenty of better stuff to do in peru, but just do a image search on ali express or order from wartable3games
>>98856672Those legs are genuinely worse than the 1990's GW skeleton
>>98856672While I appreciate the charm of the Halloween store decoration style skeleton, that is a prime example of why people pay top dollar for GW sculpts
>>98856784And yet you couldn't show better... concession excepted
>>98856802pay piggies are the funniest
Cathay are such a fucking disappointment. I'd always been curious about the little tidbits of lesser-covered areas in the fluff, ancient China, the Mongols, Mughals, etc have always been fascinating to me, and when they started expanding on them, the idea seemed neat at first. I even liked the aesthetic for the most part. Dragon children and their part human spawn, seemed like fertile ground to do warring states stuff, oppressive regimes like vampire counts with a value on the 'greater good' of fighting chaos, maybe the emperor would be pitting his children against each other violently to temper them to make them better against the arch enemy... And instead it's just, conflict-free, utopian, shite, where they were actually involved in everything the whole time, they invented gunpowder, they're more civilised and older even than the elves and have never faced any major civilisational fractures ever! I have no idea what GW was thinking. I'm a huge China mark but the execution is such an utter failure I can't be bothered with them
>>98856946Yes, BL was a mistake and the lore should have been confined to the codex, 40k especially suffered from thisthe solution is simple; everything after 1999 goes in the trash
>>98856946>to do warring states stuff, oppressive regimes like vampire countsthat would have been cringe, ngl.
>>98856956Literally how? The game is called WARhammer
>>98856959do other factions like dwarves and wood elves have so much infighting?
>>98857036There’s always an excuse for inter faction fighting, weather it is to settle a feud, squabbling over an inheritance, over treasure, or two generals might just hate each other.
>>98856956>that would have been cringe, ngl.Ni hao, Chang. Romance of the Three Kingdoms is one of the two stories your culture ever produced, you shouldn't be ashamed of it.
>>98857036They do but its generally retarded desu
>>98857036cathayans are humans, anon, not elves or dwarfsand yes, even elves and dwarfs have more infighting than cathay
>>98856672Weird phrasing, it implies you know that some gw skeletons not in production are better.
Why doesn’t mordheim have cavalary
>>98857287It does. Highwaymen. I think Vampires and Empire captains could get a horse. Don't really remember. Maybe it was a mounted supplement? Idk look it up.
>>98857190can you name those TOW sources? couldnt find any.my point is that TOW exclusive lore is rather paper thin at the moment, so just because there is no infighting mentioned in the arcane journals, doesnt mean there isnt any. but even so, the dragon siblings trying to kill each other would be retarded horus heresy shit.
>>98857376fuck off back to /aosg/, shill
>>98857376>actchually you should only count tow sources>actchchually, just because the journals went out of their way to say there's no infighting it doesn't mean there's no infighting>and acktchually, infighting would be cringe anyway You do know this is supposed to be the period of civil unrest and infighting that leads to the monkey king taking over, right?
>>98857445Not him but is the Monkey King meant to be so strong he can actually contend with the dragon children? I know he has that big magic stick but...
>>98857460Presumably, yes, he's also immortal and has been said to outsmart them at times, especially during these times of supposed disharmony.The latest journals added more to the story, but of course it's still fucking nothing, we have got to wait for total war to bring him in.>he's immortal>he wanted recognition from the dragon emperor>got gifted a circlet by the dragon, but it was actually a control device>he still gets to wrest out of the circlet's hold from time to time, especially when the emperor is away>the fire dragon of the south is meant to contain him but he's ordered not to retaliate against him by the emperor other than it all being a reference to sun wukong we have absolutely no info on how this character came to be in the warhammer worldis it another deity from ind?a bastard relative of the dragons or moon empress?a chaos mutant?the top figure of a race of apes made by the old ones and just built different?just a man living amongst monkeys?
>>98857484Well thats cool, its nice have a semi antagonistic character who is powerful but not another Chaos villain. I look forward to seeing the inevitable mini and rules. Would be funny if he had inbuilt Spectral Doppleganger to emulate his infinite clone magic.
>>98857503>but not another Chaos villainthat's one problem, we can't say he isn't
>>98857376didn't Miao kill a sibling?
>>98857569Yes, but the moon empresses made everyone forget that including Miao and sibling maio killed was under an illusion, so it looks like a demon
>>98856784Those are some thick femurs, dude drank his milk and did his squats
>>98857445>>actchually you should only count tow sourcesyes, if there is no TOW source that mentions dwarf and elves infighting, its meaningless for this setting. of course WHFB factions have more lore than cathay since they existed for 30+ years. the upcoming black library book seems to get into some infighting among the human cathayans. >>98857569not knowingly. tzeentch shenanigans were involved.
>>98857916>the upcoming black library book seems to get into some infighting among the human cathayans.lollmaonothey're not ALLOWED to show cathay as an actual society with depth, they had plenty of opportunities across multiple journals and not only they missed each and every one of them but instead they doubled down on the tone-deaf wank of a seemingly utopian nation, in warhammer of all places.they could get 60+ years of publications and still they will be stuck as this same level because it's not a lack of focus but a completely different direction altogether, one that's fundamentally antithetical to the spirit of warhammer, most likely for the sake of courting a chinese market.
>>98857287The core rulebook doesn't have cavalry, it was added later in the Empire in Flames supplement. Iirc, most warbands can take a mount (and wagons!), but not all of them horses, orcs for example are restricted to boars.It sounds great and gives you the chance to model your characters mounted and on foot, but it's Mordheim, so the implementation is somewhat clunky and requires more open table setups, which kinda beat then purpose of the game.
>>98853220>new AMAZING looking and very diverse ´AoS dwarf models>Time to start a new dwarf army>£125 for lmao 15 modelsIs this a lot of models for AoS?
>>98858008Wrong thread buddy
>>98858094The only way it would work in model form would be if he's like the dragon children, but instead of one huge dragon form and one normal human form, he has 4 different miniatures he can cycle through during a game.
>>98857484So its Wukong, got it>>98856956No, it would have been believable. China numbah won is cringe, especially from performative Euros
New article about the new TK minis>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/jaled9ld/designers-notes-creating-the-new-tomb-kings-of-khemri-miniatures/
Correct me is I'm wrong, but it seems to me, when it came to Kislev's users of Ice magic, that the "Women Only" thing was a retcon from WRP2's book Realm of the Ice Queen. Up until (and including) the 6th edition Kislev book, it still mentions Ice Mages & Wizards.
>>98858463The retcon happened before the WFRP book, apparently Andy Law said he wanted to include a reference to that male ice mage, but GW wouldn't let him so it's something GW did before they made the WFRP splat, maybe in the Ambassador Chronicles books
Savage Orcs are not coming back, are they? I regret not buying them when they were still sold for AoS so much, their price on the secondary market is ridiculously high.
>>98858459Incredible looking army, that.
>>98858470Hmm, I see. Both the 6ed Kislev supplement and the first Ambassador book came out in December 2003, so perhaps the change either happened around that time, or a bit afterwards.>Andy Law said he wanted to include a reference to that male ice mage, but GW wouldn't let him Damn, that's a shame.
>>98858491Probably not, which is a huge shame.
>>98853220They need to bring my girl Queen Khalida back already. >>98853269Paste. It's really hard to chip off.
>>98858459god, tomb kings are the sexiest undead
>>98854404Don't be a dick. Skaven were WHFB way before they became an AoS or TW thing.
>>98858491>Savage Orcs are not coming back, are they?Nope, sorry
>>98858491rules writers snuck in rules for savage orcs in the form of options for orc boys, and avatars of war has very good savage orcs proxies if you really want wild orcsif you really want the plastic kits themselves you gotta dig up the secondary market
>>98856946>See a bunch of twitter accounts post this one bit of lore about Cathay, and talk about how much they hate it.>It later get's reposted to /tg/>It's from a book that released months ago.>It's already a thing that's been talked to death about.Am I getting psyoped? We've already talked about the Cathay wank and the Lore of Heavens guff.
What other Warhammer Old World Channels are there on YT?Square Based I like as, though they are comp, they are decent to listen to.Close Order is useful but way, way too sweaty. Not a fan.Are there any who embrace the spirit of the game or a more relaxed tone?
>>98853425Didn't want to spend more than 3 hours on those so I rushed the details but here they are nonetheless.
Does anyone actually collect, paint and play Cathay? I'm curious about them, and the crane gunners
>>98858990>Square BasedI wish Rob wasn’t a weird control freak IRL, Val seems a genuinely nice guy.Miniature Game Montage has been doing the occasional TOW video and battle march report, pretty good quality too.
>>98859049Val is the Canadian guy right? Never got his weird faces at the start but he seems ok. Rob have a bad history?I don't mind battle reports but more general commentary.
Are there any hints to an Araby release down the line? Some fluff allusions or something?
>>98859039I mean, I guess I collect them now since I grabbed the starter set and the faction has grown on me.
>>98859105no
>>98859105theres a better chance of an araby like background popping up in AOS before tow at this point
>>98858491Sadly, unlikely, but my hecking proxy army will have em
>>98859105Araby is never coming out without a sudden and drastic 180 in terms of cultural opnion on Islam across Western civilization
>>98859086Rob got some shit from the wider community like two years ago. He was mean to the youtuber Miscast Trent (acceptable) and manufacturer Ramshackle Games Curtis (unacceptable)He was and is a landlord who rented space to a few different independent miniatures makers in Nottingham. Eventually, he wanted the space back to use as a podcast studio, but the lease wasn't running out soon. So he chose to "be really mean" to the tenant, Curtis, until Curtis voluntarily broke the lease and left early. Curtis is a well liked personality so this registered as Very Mean when the story broke. At a later date, him and Trent, the youtuber, had a falling out. Absurdly, the image-concious Rob supposedly physically threatened Trent to the tune of "you have to act like we're buddy buddy in public because us not getting along is making me look bad and upsetting my girlfriend" His girlfriend, of course, being Louise from Rogue Hobbies (a third reason people hated on him. "It should have been ME dating Louise", they cry) So when Curtis and Trent came out with the story it was a little firestorm. The evil landlord who bullies independent manufacturers and threatens to beat you up if you dont play friendly in front of his autistic 4chan girlfriend. This story is pathetic drama that would already be very silly if it were teenagers, but the dramatis personae were all over thirty. I'm gay for knowing any of this, and now you're gay too. But you asked.
>>98856946>>98858987The Blood of the Bastion AJ went out of it's way to dispel/retcon the "Cathay is perfect with no problems" lore.It goes into various issues within Cathay, the Dragon Children and the main conflict of the book is Miao Ying going full "Decisive Tang Victory" by purposely letting thousands of soldiers and peasants die to trick a bunch of Chaos Warriors to march into a kill box.
>>98859086Yeah >>98859200 described it better than I could have.Val is a little cringy but in a fine way imo, I don’t mind a little cringe. Despite still being a comptard, he at least seems to genuinely like the game and the community so thats enough for me.
>>98859200Thank you for the summary. What a cunt honestly. Though what made it ok to be mean to Miscast Trent? Landlords of his nature are naturally despised. As for his girlfriend, what is she sexy?Overall though of all Youtube dramas, this definitely feels more "normal" than some of the shit you sometimes see on the usual nonsensical drama.>you are gay now tooLife would be easier if I were, I assure you. Sadly after many visits to BK, I can say no.
>>98859228>Decisive Tang VictoryI looked this up and I am uncertain of anything in that battle could be considered a decisive victory.
>>98859260That's partially the joke.
>>98859248>Though what made it ok to be mean to Miscast Trent?Nothing, sorry. Just a tasteless joke, I was just playing the "mean 4channer". Trent is a nice enough dude who's done nothing wrong, but Curtis is a REALLY well loved manufacturer/event organizer so people came out in support of him more strongly. Like kicking a dog vs kicking a puppy, they're both obviously wrong but one really incenses people. Louise is indeed hot, but more importantly she used to browse 4chan where she posted her orcs and tzeentch demons on /wip/ while larping as a dude. When she revealed herself as a woman, people went "holy shit there was a hot girl posting here the whole time and we didn't even know" which leads to her being one of the more waifued Warhammer girltubers on this board. >>98859260>Fellas, we're going to have to start eating people >But as a show of good faith, I'm going to kill my favorite concubine in front of everyone and we'll eat her first That's true leadership. Modern politicians would never.
>>98859021Damn, they're well painted too. Good job.
>>98857511>an engorged rear because the kind is always in heatWell at least they're back to describing Slaanesh stuff with degeneracy, but a baboon so gay that it gets a female engorged butt seems oddly specific. Did the guy who's been sculpting all the scalie dragons for AoS start writing fluff or something?
>>98858518I mean it was Andy Law, he probably wanted him to be a massive gayboy who ends up with a Southlanders lover or something, so don't be too sad.
>>98859533I thought the male baboons grew big butts too, just for show
>>98858990I like Dr. Luke Blaxill, Mountain Miniatures and mediocre hobbies (more of a hobby channel)
>>98859200savageorkdude isn’t a catch but it’s crazy she dated an old man who must be 10 years her senior.Don’t really like Square Based myself. The British guy seems like a cunt and the Canadian guy has a nasty melting face combined with an annoying voice that makes both watching and listening terrible, and is a WAACfag secondary. Really annoying.
>>98858990I watch this guy when painting or modelling.>https://www.youtube.com/@SayHiPaulHis battle reports are pretty chill, casual and some even have some narrative flair to it. Like how the game is supposed to be played.
>>98859727>>98859819Bless you both, granted Dr Blaxill im familiar with. I know invariably TOW has become, online anyway, hot and sweaty so its nice to have some comfort that there are people who still enjoy it as intended.
>>98860079Mountain Miniatures is particularly great. They were playing WFB on stream since before TOW was even announced. True WFB fans. Watching them is ultra comfy and feels like being a silent observer of a game at the FLGS.
6 more dwarf join my ever growing tilean dwarf hold.
>>98860146And the rear, with better lighting and truer colours.
>>98859758>the Canadian guy has a nasty melting face combined with an annoying voiceWhat's with canadian youtube warhammer players and these features? There's multiple of them.
>>98860146>>98860155This is really cool. What a great idea.
>>98860161Canadians are the lowest form of life on the planet. Fake nice but actually the most evil and spiteful people anywhere. It causes their features to become warped like Chaos corruption.
>>98858579Bring back Arkhan and Neferata at the same time.
Quick question, should I add this location section in the wiki page?I'm asking for a second opinion since the info comes from the old book Something Rotten in Kislev.
Oh. I guess we're back.
>>98860852Nearly 24 hours that time
If I read the original Old World rulebook through and then the errata only afterward, will I have a wrong initial impression of the game? I've heard it said that the errata changes the way the game is played drastically but the document doesn't seem large enough to make it a different game.
Dead general, dead game.
>>98860925Capri >CAPRII thought we were going to space babe.
>>98860925I pre ordered my tomb kings reinforcement box yesterday
>>98860852All hail Bhashiva!
Whats the best way to deal with magic missle spam?
Like 5+ Summoning, endless small shooting units, multi fly/harrass/warmachine
>>98861260Magic resistance, bringing a level 4 to dispel, and murdering enemy wizards as fast as possible. It also depends on what you mean by magic missile spam. If it's one wizard with a lot of magic items that give him guaranteed magic missiles, he probably won't be that much of a threat if you play around him, especially with the new miscast table. If it's a couple wizards with a few magic missiles and a unit champion or two with bound spells, then it might get a bit bothersome. Just remember that they can't cast magic missiles if they marched on that same turn.
>>98860087I lub steeb. I've been on ~10 batreps with him (and Luka!!). He just opened up a hobby/bric store in Niagara. I wish and pray the best for him. Super dude. Like/comment/subscribe/becomeAmember
>>98861294*Throws a tantrum when Luka gets even the smallest advantage.* I CONCEDE I CONCEDE *Fat Noises and panting.*
>>98861294What happened to that kid Cullen from the old days?
>>98853480That once was an elf from Naggaroth, who... I dunno man, this shit's hard. I'm just a bot for pity's sake.
>>98861280Bless. Lots of lvl1/fast small bunker/mm. I have lvl4, mobility+shooting, and weak to strong fly units
>>98856672I like his cheeky grin, but I wouldn't say it's better than any skeletons GW's done recently.
>>98861307I have no fuckin idea! They have his skaven army im told. He made off for different breadwinning.There was a stream recently.. imbibing the spirits of his mifire woes.. *pours
>>98861301The concede-chair is a channel-trope, for 5 years atleast now
>>98861348He is just a WAAC who throws a shitfit if his netlist starts to lose.
>>98861355This is how I know you are gay
I decided to get in with tomb kings after the refresh. Today I went to the store and bought this. I am excited I haven’t built and painted in a long time
>>98861549Enjoy! It's a great fucking kit. A lot of options surprisingly too.Though the horse's pelvis bone placement might make you want to kill your self
>>98861549I'm happy for you anon, i really am it's always great to see people get excited and do hobby stuf.But man what GW charges for 2 fucking miniatures is so absurdly high that it borders on grotesque. I really can't force myself to spend that much on so little.
Could they come back? Should they come back?
>>98861633Eh back in my day you’d have to buy a blister for a character on a horse, and a blister for them on foot (usually there were exceptions ofc). And after you factor inflation into the mix they really aren’t that much more expensive today than they were back then. Although they were metal, and I prefer metal for the hand feel when playing
>>98861642they should definitively come back, unique regiments being essentially collective special characters was one of the best ideas that GW ever had, but they should make all new regiments of renown instead of simply remaking say the birdmen of catrazza or the leopold's leopard or at least they should do updated versions of these regiments with darker, more serious lore and get rid of the light-hearted, whimsical humor of the 5th edition book
>>98861650Back in your day was also back in my day. And even then they were overpriced and out of reach. If it weren't for the older kids dumping their collection as soon as they hit 15 to get some drinking money, i don't think i could have ever stuck with this hobby.They're cool model, not goint to lie. And if had any interest in undead I'd love to have them. But I'd probably need to find them for 40% or less of what GW charges.
>>98861756I got it for 20% off MSRP, which is the standard here. And I was happy enough. The $200 and change ill spend this saturday is going to sting more lol
>>98861549I'm glad you're hobbying and getting back into WFB but every time I see new TOW sculpts I feel bad that they're basically putting AoS models into WFB.
>>98861892>I feel bad that they're basically putting AoS models into WFBMight want to get that prescription updated lad, the Tomb King skeletons and horses are basically 1:1 updates. The rest of the new TK kits fit very well with the rest.
>>98861893Nah. The new stuff is very AoS-ified and has mad scale creep to match the 25mm bases. Old armies look way better even if they're made with older technology.
>>98861916Such a gay take>Durr the skeletons are sooooo derpy they need a refresh!>N-n-not like that!
>>98861989I never asked for new skeletons and didn't think they were "derpy." All of the refreshes have been dogshit, honestly fampai. Why did they even redo Chaos Warriors they were basically modern sculpts. Just more slop from nuGW.
>>98862004Bait should be believable or else you're not going to make anyone mad.
>>98862004I should have assumed you were a shitposter
>>98861209western provinces when?
>>98862183>>98862189>"if u don't like nuslop then you're shitposting"The usual pair of GW employees are too obvious.
>play mainly 6E and occasionally ToW>want to start a new army, Wood Elves>want to focus mainly on the elves with maybe one treeman as sort of a centerpiece Should I get two battle march boxes or the battalion box? It's mainly a difference between having more archers or cavalry.I plan on printing some spare hero models and such but want to buy the base boxes to support my shop.
>>98862387The Battle March is pretty good value, so getting 2 for around $90 would also be a good value. But apparently the Battalion is on Amazon prime for $165, which is an even better deal.Can't really go wrong other than playing Wood Elves because they're pretty bad. But if you don't care about them being bad then have fun.
>>98861642The problem with bringing them back, other than the completely unappealing situation of modern prices for metal minis (at around 60£ per 10 models), is that many of the units that made the dogs of war were "special characters" that existed at the time of karl franz rather than the period the old world is set in, which is a relatively small obstacle as a few retcons to make them models for generic archetypes of those units would most probably be hardly controversialthe absolutely best thing they could possibly do is bring back the old range in the form of a made to order run and then release a few plastic kits to represent the key units and aesthetics of the army>pikemen in full armor (head options for estalian conquistador helmets and for tilean grecoroman helmets)>crossbowmen with pavises (once again, head options for morion helmets and some other tilean hat)>tilean birdmen >estalian diestros>small artillery piece pulled by horse>paymaster wagon>mercenary general on foot and horsethen the rest of the army can be made up of other existing kits, like dwarf warriors and slayers, goblin infantry and cavalry, badlands and imperial ogres, giants, wizards, knightly orders, chaos marauders etc.
>>98861549TKs are kino and that kit is really fun to paint, enjoy getting back into the hobby.
>>98862233Like I said mate, you need to do better. Be a bit subtle about it. Less is more, you know.
NEW THING BADOLD THING GOODBECAUSE IT JUST IS
I think it’s quite funny that Cathay gets the furries when it’s tomb kings that need the visual variety in their army with some flesh and blood creatures. As it stands the range is too dull from a conceptual stand point never mind taking the models into account. Fucking hell even mummy swarms would do some good for them.
>>98862395I can get either for prices closer to each other. But its actually good that they're bad since I heard they're OP in 6E and I was worried about that, I prefer the challenge.
>>98862760Well old thing didn't have DEI tranny skeletons so yes
>>98862760Old thing was gooder because I was younger and didn't know any better, but I want to be younger again anyway.
>>98862768How can you tell? I guess that is your joke
>>98861650>And after you factor inflation into the mixthis is misleading, the tools and facilities available today are not the tools of 20+ years ago, the blisters were also metal wich even today is a more involved manufacturing process than plasticif they were the same any other company would also charge 30 bucks for a single guy on foot, but they don't (most of them anyways)those prices are a choice gw makes every year because it will sell anyways
>>98853480really?I've been waiting for that legion of the damned box for a month..... turned down some stuff I could have otherwise been doing because I thought I would have to go in person to my lgs to preorder..... and it's still not even announced officially.
>>98861892>>98861916Retarded take, the new TKs look nothing like aos
>>98862936it's a fakegrog larper/shitposter, pay him no mind
>>98862972Or maybe there are multiple people who see no real value in GW taking what should be a way to sell their older sculpts and updating to less impressive sculpts and at a higher price?
>>98862972Wonder if people will ever stop falling for it
>>98862936they are indeed quite good, I say this as a former TK player. Probably the best TOW stuff I've seenI'll always have a soft spot for the Old Skellies but I'm wondering if I should actually get some modes for them to pay respects (I won't, I'm not made of money)I'll say the design team article saying "we gave them armour" misses the point that they shouldn't really have armour or breastplates to better represent the time period and ancient Egypt vibes but thats a minor quibble
What is the most adorable old world mini in your eyes?
I look at Nu-Hammer, and it leaves me cold.This is gay.It has no way to not be gay.They could perfectly reproduce Warhammer as it was when I was a child, and it would still be fucking gay.Because the intrinsic gayness of the people making it now just leaches into everything they do, like Typhoid Mary, or women pissing out their birth control chemicals into the water supply, or food that was prepared without washing your hands.It's just tainted.There was a time when I would have been happy to see my childhood living on through other people.Now?I feel sorry for them.
>>98863003the evergreenest
>>98863003Squigs they look funny
>>98863003WFB in general or made for TOW specifically?
>>98859021Those the project lustria ones?
>>98863006lets hope this is our last incarnation here brotha
>>98859228>went out of it's way to dispel/retcon the "Cathay is perfect with no problems" lore.no, it didn't>It goes into various issues within Cathaybarely, and only if you force a reading from between the lines
>>98863016WH Fantasy in general
>>98862987>updating to less impressive sculptsgood thing they're updating them to more impressive sculpts instead!
>>98863031Then one of the old metal squig hoppers for sure.
>>98863040You really do come off as either a desperate shill, a mind broken cattle consumer or a troll. No offense meant, just an observation on my part.
>>98863026this is the way
>>98863074meant for >>98863006
I played TOW yesterday. It was fun :)
>>98861698>get rid of the light-hearted, whimsical humor of the 5th edition bookZoomer take. Warhammer has always been silly at its core. Even the darkest parts of the setting, like Mordheim, have always made the absurdity of the setting very evident.
>>98863122the Brets in the old era were literally GrimDumb, just relentlessly stupid over the top Grimdark edginess into absurdity and that was the point
>>98863122Feels like an influx of Youtube and Tiktok informed tourists trying to say that GW needs to turn everything new and super grimdark while not understanding the core and heart of Warhammer Fantasy.
Part of me wishes these dudes had some form of Light Armor. A lot of me does, actually.
>>98863168I love Orks in 40K and Orcs and Goblins in fantasy for being unapologetically goofy that they shit on the Grimderp
>>98863171They are 7pp, have T4 (which is more than other units of their comparison have), can have dual weapons or a shield, they can also ambush, switch between open order and skirmishers mid game and so on. Then they have primal fury and all that that could entail.Gors are pretty neat overall in my opinion. Fun to build too, lots of room for conversions and later on; color schemes.
>>98863122Warhammer fantasy is at its best when it’s tongue in cheek mixed with dark and gritty themes.
>>98863020I have no idea what project lustria is but those are just scans from the original GW Pygmies released with an RPG adventure in Lustria. They're going to be used in a Mordheim campaign in Lustria.
>>98863206Oh, that's the group they were scanned for. I think I saw the shaman with the tiki mask in your unpainted pic, it's a digital iitbash made by another group member.
>>98863194I forget they are T4, that would be pretty nasty with light armor and their shield option. I mostly run regiments of Ungor with bows because it amuses me. Also because I keep forgetting to buy more Gors.
>>98863218I didn't know that, that's neat.
TQ: I hope that whatever form TOW 2e takes, they go back to Armybooks. The Arcane Journals were fine for what initially looked like a limited, low budget revival of the game but TOW seems to have expanded far beyond that.I'd much rather have Armybooks and premium 150+ page campaign books than a never ending flow of mini-books with rules and lore scattered across numerous books, with more than a suspicion that random rules are thrown into unrelated Journals to make you buy them.
>>98858579Yes, yes they do. No reason not to have Khalida in this time period.
>>98858990I can't stand whichever of the square based gimp does the stupid dances at the beginning of their videos. Almost worst than Andy Law....almost.The other one I'm less bothered by because he annoys the part of the internet that has an frankling baffling obsession with Louise whatsername, which makes me lol because they need to grow up and stop fantasising over a manic pixie girl weirdo that is good at painting.
>>98859549Probably was going to model him on Loremaster of Sotek.
*Summons Pastbin Anon*Wrecker's point pdf?
>>98863003This husltin' youngblood
Tzeentch MTO, including the Forgeworld Lord of Change, will be very overpriced>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/tzzxr1jc/tzeentch-daemons-return-via-made-to-order/
>>98863610>The Fluxmaster, Fatemaster, and Blue Scribes have free Warhammer Age of Sigmar Legends rules,>the Exalted Greater Daemon, also known as Aetaos’Rau’Keres, has free Legends rules.What? No mentions of TOW's Legacy rules?
>>98863654the TOW legends rule don't have any named charecter options they are just all generics
>>98863610But I see nothing wrong with this model. If I collected this race I would spend it.
>>98863654Didn't the skaven one do the same thing, despite also being all wfb minis?
reposting some sabretusks for my ogre army from wip. my first finished regiment Im gonna field. Momentum gained!
>>98863610I'm considering picking up the 1989 lord of change if it's priced cheaper than the ones on the second hand market. Also, maybe the chaos lord on disc too, not sure though. I've been thinking about putting a period on the undivided section of my chaos army, maybe this is a sign to start up the tzeentch section again.
>>98863734They aren't finecast, that by itself makes them more valuables than the 2nd hands ones.
>>98863799The lord of tzeentch on disc and the 1989 lord of change were never cast in resin, anon. They were first released long before finecast was even a concept. The ones available second-hand are all made of metal.
>>98863817I'm VERY sure the lord of tzeentch on disc was on sale for a very long time after the introduction of failcast, surely it wasn't metal all through that period
>>98863356How about you summon a job and buy it yourself?
>>98863334>Louise whatsernameThat's /WIP/'s fault, they're the ones who glazed her and encouraged her to work at the and become an eceleb
>>98863817>and the 1989 lord of change were never cast in resin,That was a serious retort?Of course I''m only talking about the models available in the finecast period. It was never in white metal to begin with, what a wasted attempt at a gotcha.The fatemaster and flux master were both sold in finecast when they were deleted.
>>98863610Hopefully we can finally get the big arse LoC scanned, cause even Chang and Ivan charge a prince's ransom for it.
>>98863886petty Addendum:resin fatemasterhttps://www.ebay.fr/itm/206529408021resin fluxmasterhttps://www.ebay.fr/itm/227517485656
>>98863916I stand corrected, my bad anon.
Rules for the AJ leakedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UdXBJgF63Y
>>98863945New Gargantuan Treeman absolutely fucksThis thing is what Treemen should have been.
>>98863980A much bigger base than the normal Treemen Ancients; what model do they expect people to use for this?
>>98863988
>>98863988That's the most interesting part; unlike Tomb Guard Chariots or Winged Warsphinxes, this unit lacks the "Represeting This In Your Games" box... very strong hints at a model to come.
>>98863997That's still on a 50 x 50 base
>>98863980This thimg is practically at the level of 5th ed Treemen, absolute monsters!
>>98864008it's actually on a 200x200 base, that's just a big hand
>>98864021didn't know andré painted miniatures
>>98863610>"WHAT THE FUCK AM I CASTING!?"
>see Tzeentch daemons MTO>get hyped at chance to buy some of the best miniatures ever made >no horrors in the MTO Is GW stupid?
>>98864089I would guess either the Brettonia Orc and Empire MTO, which had large blocks of metal models, were unsuccessful, so GW doesn't want to waste that time again on demons, or they don't want to do an MTO of Diez Demonettes so the other lesser demon models are a casualty of that
>>98864089very possible that some of those old molds are broken or degraded now to the point that they cant get passable casts out of them
>>98863881Why don't you?
>>98863882She's not even that attractive. Tabletop nerds really do need to meet more women.
>>98864107That makes 0 sense considering we got MTO’s for basic metal infantry for MESBG afterwards >>98864108That would be truly tragic
>>98863980What's that supposed to be? The Durthu/threeman model?
>>98864379So we're back to GW not wanting to do an MTO of the Deiz Demonettes then
>>98864388It's too big for that, since you could just put those on a 50 x 75 mm base, which is already legal in TOW for Treemen
>>98863318There isn’t going to be a 2nd edition anytime soon. 1.5 is basically the second edition of this game, and it’s rulebook will be good for at least as long as the original one was. I’m guessing a true 2nd edition will come in 2029 at the earliest but possibly 2030 because even numbers,As lame as it is, the AJ+refresh cycle for Old World works for both the grogs who buy this game and for bringing in new players with new plastic.
>>98864379>>98864089they're commonly found through ivan or chang
>>98863074>shillA shill has something to sell.I don't see anything worth buying.Save up for a fucking house or something, you wretch.
>>98864629Really? I thought those were on that big ass base size.
>>98863988Go out and carve a treeman from an oak branch.
new TK AoI looking sexy
>>98864697I think you’re the first person I’ve seen say that. Care to explain? The loregrogs don’t like it because it isn’t Kemmler’s Barrow Kingdoms themed and the TK crowd don’t like it because it’s just “poor TKs” with weird restrictions and princes on dragons, with some nonsensical chariot stat bonuses thrown in.
>>98863171They would be too good, they are already really good
>>98864726the restrictions dont affect me in any way and I can play my list as usual just with better chariots, which is based. also access to new spell lores and etheral skirmish archer is cool and the new upgrades for horsemen maybe even makes them not completely shit. will have to try out. And I couldnt give less of a shit about kemmler and VC-fags. people who were thinking they would become a core faction or part of the TK-roster were completely delusional.
>>98864680No, just 50 x 75; that's why Treeman have Min and Max Base the same as the Giants, as it allows AoS models to be used.Even GW employees use the Giant plastics instead of the Resin
>>98864771>nd I couldnt give less of a shit aboutNo one asked you what you cared about, just why you think a super subpar AoI is "sexy." Thanks for explaining but leave the attitude in the closet where it belongs.
>>98864771>completely delusional.Yeah it was mostly hopium, which makes all the whining so obnoxious. Nobody said or promised it would be backdoor Vampire Counts.
>>98864845I don't think anybody thought it'd be Vampire Counts, just that the options may reflect the existing lore and choices. It's a "barrow" army in name alone. The rules don't have any room for Simulacra (AoI can't take Ushtabi which could have stood in for Simulacra) or Glooms, and they restrict your Tomb Scorpions.
>>98864873>I don't think anybody thought it'd be Vampire CountsPeople were legit making straight up comparisons and saying things like "ethereal carrion can fit in for Glooms!". People definitely thought that.
>>98864891Right. There was some expectation that the list would have anything at all to do with existing Barrow Kingdoms lore and have some leeway for proxying. But no one expected actual VC rules, particularly because the old Kemmler list wasn't VC at all but an amalgamation of VC and TK models to make a necromantic undead list. GW should have called the AoI something like Chariot Vanguard or some shit. Calling it Barrow Kingdoms is kind of a bait-and-switch.
>>98863610I think I'm getting this FW LoC
A fluff question:In terms of generic lords, where exactly would a Doombull land in respect of Chaos Lords, Ogre Tyrants, Warbosses and other big hitters?As well, if a Doombull slew a chaos champion, is it fuffy for it to tear off its armour and use it as its own gear / could beastmen actually reshape bits to fit?
new colossus kit confirmed? Don't think they've ever had great weapons.
>>98865054No, that's old art, so I don't think so
>>98865054Nah that's old art.I would like one, and a Hierotitan model, but I doubt it will be anytime soon.
>>98864630We'll see. Apparently Kislev is on the slate for the next 18 months according to Hastings, so if that comes and goes with 2e, then we're hopefully free of the 30k edition cycle and more into something like Necromunda 2017.
>>98865164>HastingsDidn't Boole show up, thank him for his old service, and then say everything he said was wrong? I'd trust Boole over him, though other leakers have said Kislev is coming so it's probably right.
>>98865174BOOLE NOTICE ME SENPAI PLEASE. I''LL EAT YOUR SHIT AND REGURGITATE YOUR LIES AND DRAMA, BOOLE! PLEASE!
>>98865202Weird thing to post while glazing Hastings leaks
>>98865054That's a bone giant and even if gw never make that model it can still be procured with not too much searching if you so desire.
>>98865054>Don't think they've ever had great weapons.let me teach you
>>98864127Come one now.
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>>98865671>any modeller with a little experience can carve the liche priest casket out of the metal tomb scorpionLmao
>>98865646Good painter but otherwise a sadly vapid Pick Me Girl.
>>98864697it looks forgettable
can someone post the wood elf stuff. I need to know if now is a good time to sell all my wood elf shit while they're going to be strong or not.
Think we will ever get Warshrines, Forsaken, Mutaliths and Slaughterbrutes back for WoC? I have a pair of Warshrines and both a Mutalith and Slaughterbrute I would love to field, but sadly the local scene only plays ToW now.
>>98866014Forsaken will probably get new models when they come back to the store at this point.
>>98865863>"Pick me"A meaningless noise women throw at one another in an attempt to shame women who try to impress men on their own terms.It would be less vapid to call her an opportunistic grifter with no real investment.
>>98866014>Think we will ever get Warshrines, Forsaken, Mutaliths and Slaughterbrutes back for WoC?no
>>98866634>less vapidbut objectively wrong
>>98866014I think when TLW drops there will be a culling of fantasy minis still in use in AoS, and when that day comes the warshrine will be in an arcane journal soon afterI think the only reason we are getting Gargantuan Treemen is because the Treeman kit still in use in AoS will be gone soon alongside the Dryads
>>98866819maybe you haven't noticed but the warshrine left aos before tow rolled around, it's not coming here, for whatever reason
>>98866819>TLWLmao. Keep sipping that Boolejuice.
>>98866799Tell us about the femoid, and how deeply invested she is in the autistic space man game for perpetual teenaged boys.
>>98867096she went by savageorkguy here on /tg/ over 10 years ago, long before she got a job at gw, or got known as a girl to begin with
>>98865671wonder if they'll change the lore one day so that bone giants are literally giant skeletons and not statues, seeing as the dragon is literally a dragon.
>>98867123They could say whatever in the latest official canon lore and I would still throw that away and give for granted that for any given nehekharan shit there's all sorts of variants from the literal skeleton of a giant, a giant made out with the bones of other things like animals and small people, a statue sculpted in the shape of a giant skeleton, and any thing in-between and besides those
>>98867118Fair enough, story checks out.>pickmeIs still a meaningless woman-on-woman slur though.It is normally uttered out of pure jealousy at the attention deficit.
>>98867146I wasn't arguing against thatalso fuck me it's incredible how gw has no idea what to do with tzeentch
>>98865646You're correct, Tuomas Pirinen is a fine looking man. Better than horse gums.
>>98867253He is very short however
>>98867263I thought he was pretty tall for a 28mm scale hobbyist.
>>98867263Hench as fuck though. He's like a dwarf.
video of the new TK sprues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDyosCyHx84
>>98867267Kek. Thanks for the laugh anon.
What models do you use for your wizard familiars?
>>98867352Nothing because magic is for pussies
>>98867489Cool grey daemons bro, what god do they worship?
>>98867123Wait, they weren't always just dead giants? Why would you sculpt a stone giant skeleton and then dress it up in actual clothes/armour?
>>98867499Ancient Nehekhara is obsessed with deathIt's one of those weird things when they are compared to IRL ancient Egypt.
>>98867288I partially disagree with the designer. The heads should have been seperate from the body.
>>98867524I don't think it really matters in the end.
>>98867541I admit not playing TK, yet still believe it does matter, in the long run; because it's a decision that he and other designer-members of the team will face when it comes to eventually redesign the other factions' core units.
>>98867560Anon, stop being such an alarmist.In this very same box skeleton archers have separate heads.
>>98867524>The heads should have been seperate from the body.how trivial is it to cut them?
>>98867640On the sprue the lower jaw is part of the body
>>98866014>Mutalith and SlaughterbruteAbsolutely not. If it were up to me I’d remove the dragon ogres too, all frankly ugly models. >warshrine Will likely be reinvented like the awful new chaos sculpts.
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>>98860785well I did it anyways.
>>98867166Fuck me that's gay.Terrifically realized technicolour.Looks like he's about to change alright.Not replicable on any sort of mass scale, looks like a high end Fabergé Egg.
