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Let chaos whores take this thread!
I really need to find a place to talk about warhammer that isn't full of people who complain when others want to have fun with warhammer. Unfortunately everyone on X posts more about meme lore or politics(ironically, the model owners seem to be even worse than the secondaries in this regard) and Reddit is... well, Reddit, and all the discords I'm in are dead or close to it. Oh well.
>tqall of the titans, but only if GW outsources them to bandai
>>98866730please answer one thing. why rat? rat has nothig to do with warhammer. at least that fat wop had a stream about assembling models.
>>98866724>what forge world model, in your oppinion, should get a plastic release.S Q U I G G O T HQUIGGOTH
>>98866734have you tried not being obnoxious dog fucking faggot
>>98866738Is this the new counter ritualpost to ratfag's ritualpost?
>TQStyrix
>>98866745i'm genuinly curious. as someone who watches vwhores i know few things about them. for exampke rat chink's only worthwile ability is to shake her ass
>>98866749Yeah but you ask this question every time and get the same answer every time.
>>98866738You realise that's not ratfag, right? Also we've been over the why plenty of times before, ratfag's a simp and sees posting her everywhere as a service, like in his delusion he legitimately thinks he's spreading joy and converting new fans by spamming her, advertising completely for free
>>98866734I'll bite. What "fun" do you want to have with warhammer? Bet it's some autism that just hard goes against lore, or misunderstands the universe in some way
>>98866730Can you fuck off with this shit already?
>>98866744>>98866757You guys see what I mean?
>>98866724>TQGrot tanks, grot megatank
>>98866751i've been off /40kg/ for a week or two so i didn't ask that.
>>98866760Well you have yet to tell us what "fun" you want to have with 40K. First poster just thinks you're the mutant
Repostan in new thread because now I can attach the pic I wanted.>>98866711 #>which I have never seen a source onYou can refer to even just the basic daemon prince model for a start, but examples of "older/stronger daemon is physically bigger" exist all over 40K, you don't have to look far.>it would be super dumbWelcome to Warhammer. Tabletop minis aren't to scale btw and who beat who is irrelevant because it's up to the author/which faction they're trying to sell.>but w/eYou type like such a fag and your shit's all retarded.
>>98866752>You realise that's not ratfag, right? calling vtumors whores was a good indicator>Also we've been over the why plenty of times before, ratfag's a simp and sees posting her everywhere as a service, like in his delusion he legitimately thinks he's spreading joy and converting new fans by spamming her, advertising completely for freeno fucking way. that both sad and example of a mental disturbance
well that's all i have in custodes boxesImperium - Adeptus Custodes - Grav‑Assault Force, Lions of the Emperor, Might of the MoritoiTrajann Valoris (265pts)Blade Champion (175pts)Blade Champion (175pts)Blade Champion (195pts)Shield-Captain (205pts)Shield-Captain (225pts)3x Custodian Guard Sodality (240pts)3x Custodian Guard Sodality (240pts)3x Custodian Guard Sodality (240pts)3x Custodian Guard Sodality (270pts)3x Sentinel Guard Sodality (240pts)3x Sentinel Guard Sodality (240pts)3x Sentinel Guard Sodality (240pts)3x Sentinel Guard Sodality (270pts)3x Allarus Custodians (270pts)3x Allarus Custodians (270pts)3x Allarus Custodians (300pts)3x Aquilon Terminators with Solarite Power Gauntlets (285pts)3x Aquilon Terminators with Solarite Power Gauntlets (285pts)3x Aquilon Terminators with Solarite Power Talons (275pts)3x Aquilon Terminators with Solarite Power Talons (275pts)3x Custodian Wardens (295pts)3x Custodian Wardens (325pts)3x Custodian Wardens (325pts)3x Custodian Wardens (325pts)3x Custodian Wardens (325pts)5x Prosecutor Squad (50pts)9x Witchseeker Squad (100pts)2x Gyrfalcon Jetbike Sodality (260pts)2x Gyrfalcon Jetbike Sodality (280pts)2x Gyrfalcon Jetbike Sodality (280pts)2x Gyrfalcon Jetbike Sodality (280pts)3x Vertus Praetors (330pts)3x Vertus Praetors (350pts)Caladius Annihilator Grav-tank (250pts)Contemptor-Achillus Dreadnought (230pts)Coronus Grav-carrier (225pts)Pallas Grav-attack (135pts)Pallas Grav-attack (135pts)Telemon Heavy Dreadnought (280pts)Telemon Heavy Dreadnought (310pts)Anathema Psykana Rhino (70pts)
No one, and I mean no one, ever asked about fucking CustodesThey're a horrible, cringe, fanfic faction>ackshually custodes are more super special and epic and awesome than even the most super epic marine chapter
>GyrfalconJust makes me think of Invader Zim errytime>SodalityFuck me the names of custodes shit are so dumb
>>98866784well, what faction would you see in place of custodes? remember that custodes are currently the cheapest faction. also they're easy to paint.
>>98866797they could have call them syndiakonia
>>98866802What faction sparks joy for you?That's the one
>>98866802>cheapest faction. also they're easy to paint.Admech could literally have been this, just large robots/vehicles. For some bizarro reason they left most of their model range in 30K though
>>98866806well, guard being the cheapest in IRL money faction, and being easy to paint would be something great for me. sadly gw would never do that
>>98866808>admech >easy to paintall the glow effects and reqired shading on the fidddly bits would be infuriating.
>>98866814>glow effectsNot necessary for tabletop ready>reqired shading on the fidddly bits What is bro blabbing about? Anon are you drunk?
So how is Tone pro?any shade worth getting?
>>98866816i woke up like 1 minutes ago. i rember someone said online that cawls model is very fucking fiddly. also all those bits where metal intersects with robes.
>>98866825Wake up dude, have some caffeine. You aren't reading or processing shit properly. My post was talking about big robots and vehicles which have tons of sizable flat surfaces and less fiddly bits than the skitarii and tech priests, but also with admech you can just hastily slap down some layers and drybrushes and call it a day
>>98866825nta, it's fitting for Cawl but yeah his model is so full of detail it takes quite a while to paint cleanly
>>98866730Kek
>>98866734Here you go. You have to have painted models to get in though.https://discord.gg/59mezg6gY
>>98866845>have to have painted models to get inYeah that dude won't be joining the 'cord. Pretty sure it's the guy carrying on about primarch sizes at the end of last thread, he seems like a modelless zoomer who's new to things
>>98866724>what forge world model, in your oppinion, should get a plastic release.The one and only, Knarloc the Great.
>>98866845>You have to have painted models to get inThis kills the momodels.
>>98866845I haven't joined but how does it work, do you get limited access and have to post a model in one of the channels?
>>98866724>what forge world model, in your oppinion, should get a plastic release.pretty sure it will eventually happen
>>98866886funny how so many of those FW models ended up in the original DoW
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
Update on >>98856912.So I got a few practice games in and actually learned a lot.Through testing I find the better arrangement is to put the assIntercessors into the repulsor, and have them get out the turn the repulsor moves. I originally put the Hellblasters and Infernus in the Repulsors so they can get within range and be protected from assaults, but it's better to put the Hellblasters in the rhino and just keep them back a bit, and use the Repulsor's charge protection for the assIntercessors. So they can get out, shoot, claim the objective, and if they get charged they hop inside and if they don't get charged then they say Assault doctrine and advance+charge something and gain the Lance bonus and their own charge bonus. The best part is that if they do get charged, that's ok, since you can charge the turn you disembark if the transport didn't move, which will be the case if the transport parks on the objective and they get inside during the opponent's charge phase.I feel like the Repulsor is really good and I'm basically forming my list around them. The two vehicle detachments especially. I love all the synergies.Really happy with this list and learning to play it better. Feels good. Hellblasters are crazy good.
>>98866767Nice
>>98866901Warwick kinrade kew what he was doing better than any nuhammer writer.
>>98866898Yeah
>>98866724>TQKytan/Lord of Skulls dual kit.
>>98866907Thanks for the update metal tray fag, where abouts can I subscribe to your blog?
>>98866898You need to post a timestamped picture of your models to get access to most channels, yeah. This filters the most blatant secondary shitposters, it's actually fairly comfy in there desu.
>>98866931his post is more on topic than anything you've ever posted here, you secondary faggot
>>98866903>Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
pls no fighting
12th edition will be a proper wargame again, right?
>>98866946No>>98866944Dubs of truth
>>98866936The poor bloke needed some (you)s so I gave him one, im doing my part, are you?
>>98866946noif you're lucky you can hope it will become a proper boardgame
GODDAMN IT I DO TWO THIN COATS AND PRIMER IS STILL SHOWINGGOD DAMN YOU DUNCAN
>>98866980are you layering white over black primer or what?
>>98866985Red over black
>>98866989I recommend red or white/grey primer
>>98866989You might have to start with a darker red and build up from there
BIGBOUNCYBANSHEEBUTTS
>>98866752I'd be nice if people put this amount of creativity into their hobby.
>>98866724>TQTantalus
>>98866724>TQThe humble Brass Scorpion.
>>98866946I'll give a qrd on why 11th is so shit so bare with me>leader of 10th quits halfway through>he wanted a slower less lethal 40k>gets replaced by head of AoS>new leader wants a faster more killy 40k>threw everything the old guy did in the trash>11th comes around and game is still half baked>have to ship an incomplete game>James says fuck it and make things up as you go>gamers get dripfed bare bones everything because the company and 11th ed itself is being made up as it goes along>game balance goes to shit and the entire edition is completely reliant on codex releases that aren't even done being written until they release>James moves points adjustments to digital only so they can buff and nerf as needed to duct tape this skeleton edition so we are gonna be in for a bad time until hopefully 12th/13th ed as long as the director doesn't quit or be replacedt. know a few insiders
How's everyone's collage entry coming along?
Just finished Vulcan lives, Horus isn’t doing much heresy just yet only Istvaan 5 and we are almost halfway through the novels. Does the heresying intensify in the back half?
>>98867042i finished mine just yesterday...i went for spooky gore
>>98867043dunno, ask /hhg/
>>98867044no, you didn't.
>>98867042Im only gonna have time to finish/submit 2/10 models in the squad, sad desu.
>>98867051im not going back and fixing that. thankfully it doesn't bother me any
can i use nurgle daemons in CSM? or do i need to run deathguard specifically?
>>98867061Damn you're as braindead as the decalpedoThe tantrum you threw in the discord over everybody calling you an attention whore was great too
Is WE trim easier or harder than CSM trim? As in, if I gave up on CSM trim, what are my odds of doing WE trim?
>>98867070WE trim is worse than CSM. more details, more spikey tooth patterns.
>>98867070It's about the same. All the chaos marine armies are gonna have a lot of trim if you go by their canon color schemes. You don't have to paint the trim though, plenty of CSM warbands have their armor and trim the same color.
>>98867044shame that telemon cannot have 2 guns
>>98867044gotta say that telemon being so easy to magnetise was GW's best decision
primaris weapons are so damn oversized, they look ridiculous.
How do I turn down the saturation but IRL? I was redoing that red cape and now it's way too red
>>98867080having both arms occupied by guns is retardedmight as well have a tank instead of a walker at that point
>>98867067i wish you'd just out yourself so I can ban you for being a fag
>>98867089Marines gotta have big weapons because they gotta be big.If you want small arms go with the guard.
>>98867066atm you can run 500 points of demons but for each elite you include, you have to field a battleline unit for that particular god. also you can field 1 big chaos knight or 3 dogs.
>>98867093Yeah I know you hate having people who don't suck your dogshit paintjobs off in your discord circlejerkHow did you get worse at modeling and painting, with an even easier army to paint lmao
>>98867103all you're doing is proving you're a bitter loser and a coward hiding
>>98867092get a load of this spheroid
>>98867105>You're pathetic if you don't let me ban you for wrongthink Maybe you should've thought more than not at all before spamming selfies for attention on 4chan you fedop spic whore
>>98867107>"get a load of this spheroid">clanner mech defeatedHm
>>98867109>join discord just to seethe in thread about someone he doesn't likethis isn't the epic own you think it is
>>98867092telemon could kick things in meele up to 10th ed.
>>98867092Do not tell this to the lobotomy patient who designed the stormsurge
>>98867112just put a random meme for attention. also, fuck jade falcon.
>>98867126>just put a random meme for attention.
>>98866822It's fine but nothing special, similar flow to Duncan's paints. Different but not better than AK or AP. Pots suck and the price is high, but I'm sure it'll have one or two great colours you can't get elsewhere, like every brand.
>>98866989>Red over blackrookie mistake
>>98867042Finished highlighting it yesterday but the base and weathering will have to wait till next week.
>>98867112You gotta be sympathetic, it's hard to type when you don't have hands BECAUSE YOU WASTED BOTH ARMS ON CANNONS
>>98867122the stormsurge at least goes all the way along the horseshoe and gives up on having arms altogether
>just introduced a friend from work to 40k>he's chosen tauWhat have I done...He never said he was ghey
>>98867089phobos gear ends up looking better on normal marines. or some hh stuff. marines holding giant weapons and giant shoulder pads look small.
>>98866989try citadel redpeople keep bitching about citadel paint but one they they could do is a lot of coverage I originally only got carmine red from VMCbut that shit will not stick and need like 5 layers with krone/meph red they will just go over any color in 1 at most 2 layersotherwise just paint white or brown it first then red
>>98867157Just their weapons, or do you mean their arms too?
>>98867151With guns on the end of arms you can at least feasibly get back up when your dumb ass falls over. The stormsurge ain't doing that (ignoring that the crew have been massively concussed by the firing of the main weapon due to it being open topped and likely thrown out after it flips over).
>>98867114Nobody likes you dyke
Posting about Discord in any context should be a bannable offense.Posting bait should be a bannable offense.Posting lists about what should be a bannable offense should be a
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
What would cause more of an upset: a Space Wolf being defeated in single combat by a Dark Angel, or one being defeated by a Thousand Son?
>>98866730>>98866903>>98866941I hate all of you
>>98867136Why?
>>98867170phobos arms are almost identical to other marines, so it depends entirely on whether you like the asymmetric shoulder pad look.
>>98867187Why the hypothetical? both happened.
>>98867019Sorry, ratfag is too busy simping for vwhores and watching terrible anime.
>>98867039>Game gets AoS devs>It gets worse
>>98867204red pigments tend to have poor opacity, so to get a good clean coat (bright or otherwise) you want to be using a white, light grey, brown or red primer. black is honestly one of the worst undercoats someone can use, and is only beneficial when painting mostly in metallics, black, or really dark schemes in greens or blues. anything else you're just making things harder than they need to be.some weirdos take pride in always using black primer, like a badge of honour for learning to paint back when there were only black and chalky white primers available, and all paints needed 3+ super thinned coats to accomplish anything.
>>98867039since you know few insiders, can you tell them to go and tell higher ups that what they're doing is utterly retaeded?
>>98867214Ratfag posts his models though?
11th is good actually, but you'd have to play it to find out so it's no surprise everyone here is still spouting decade-old "GW bad at everything" memes.
>>98866903
11th is bad actually, but you'd have to play it to find out so it's no surprise everyone here is still spouting decade-old "GW is amazing at everything" memes.
>>98867188>I am an elightened centrist, I hate both arsonists and firefighters equally
>>98867289I play multiple games weekly anon
>>98867293How many games of 11th have you played?
>>98867289What I've played of 11th I've enjoyed mostly, but it's mainly just how terrain works currently and the size of the boards that's I'm not enjoying.Going back to 6x4 and adjusting how footprints effect LOS is what I'm hoping for.
>>98867291is ratfag really painting his nails?
>>9886729820-30
>>98867289i played a few games of 11th when it came out. i understand the problem the terrain footprints are trying to solve, but fuck me are they ugly. kills the immersion as bad as scoring circles. they could have just as easily used a "within 1 inch of the terrain" rule instead of footprints.the focus on competitive precision is making the artifice of the game too obvious. also the new mission and scoring cross referencing disposition matrix is needlessly convoluted, and actions need to be removed from the game yesterday
>>98867299>the size of the boards that's I'm not enjoying.i'm not seing problems with that actually.
>>98867294>firefightershow up your own arse can you be?
>>98867301He's an Australian (from queensland at that) who watches vtumors and loves femboy anime, of course he is.
>>98867294Considering firefighters would literally stand there until you paid up an extortionist fee, yes
>>98867039Why the fuck would he want this already slow ass game to be any slower?
>>98867305That's not surprising, it's definitely pretty subjective, I've just found that with a lot of movement abilities these days boards are feeling quite cramped.It may just be because I've played a lot of editions where 6x4 was the norm.
>>98867152Now hang on, is he going Farsight Enclaves? If so he's only a little gay.
How did they do this effect inside the insets?
>>98867323What, putting paint? Using a brush.
Can someone explain to me why this one ritualposter makes niggers so mad? Is it because he plays tau.
>>98867323>How did they do this effect inside the insets?You get your finest purple Himalayan mountain weasel brush, and you paint it ever so carefully.
>>98867326It's just decalfag.
Yep that's one fine looking modelWHY DOESN'T MINE LOOK LIKE THAT
>>98867304It fucks with the competetive too. With circles there was a choice to make - you either stood on a cirle or you staged behind the wall central wall. Now the staging point and the objective is one and the same. There's such a load of terrain that gun range is not even a factor anymore. You pretty much cannot draw a line that's longer than 24, game is very skewed toward blobbing in the middle which heavily favors some armies over others.And that's not even the biggest problem of 11th, the way the scoring works is completely fucked and makes denial-based strategies complete nonstarters.
>>98867326No, it's because you post cringe pedophile vtumor shit.
>>98867304It's time... to go back.
>>98867326vtuber shit is cringesimple as
>>98867326I hate all ritualposters but vtumors are the most cringe and blatantly off topic. At least the dark eldar refresh, orks :D, custodes knockers and banshee butts are somewhat related to 40k
Why did the thread become so awful, I thought we were supposed to post models and discuss the game?
>>98867332Really?>>98867342Is everyone ratfag?>>98867349That does make sense, but it's just the level of reaction is what I trigues me, even "awoo with me sisters" poster didn't get to this level.
>>98867356>tfw the i like orks :D poster stopped posting
>>98867360thank god, I hope he dies in a ditch
>>98867361Dont you like orks, anon? D: :((
>>98867363>le waaagh>le cockney even though every nu-james employee has never met a proper cockney in their lives>le belief le makes things happen>sculpts are terrible
>>98867357>post modelsratfag isn't here to post his terrible tau or csm
>>98867357I posted a model earlier :)
>>98867348i dont think i want to go back that far. on top of people losing models from their roster or entire armies disappearing from the game, there were things i really disliked about those older editions. the biggest one was thee way vehicle penetration was handled. i really hated having vehicles and dreadnoughts just popping like zits in a single shot. that was awful, it made vehicles feel terrible to the point where i actively avoided them until 8th edition.
>>98867348Honestly GW just need to completely rethink the gameplay loop rather than tinkering with a decades old rule set that started out as trying to make a war game from rogue trader.Make it alternate activation and get rid of to wound rolls for a start. They're stuck with the impossible task of trying to represent the gamut of strength and toughness in 40k with a resolution of 10 and then try to resolve it with a D6. Weapons should have damage and models should have wounds; if you hit and they fail the save, deduct one from the other. You can now easily balance the entire game with wounds and armour representing toughness and resilience, and damage and AP representing strength and penetration.
just order some nos big mek dakkarig from box splitteri mean I already got one from my own launch box split but I think the second one is cool
My retarded ass kept thinking you had to copy the box art, and painting was an exhausting feat, but I'm just doing it the way I want and it's fun.Yes I am braindead and retarded
>>98867042what horn is that from?
>>98867042Its been finished for a while but im not happy with it
LE LE XD XD ECKS DEEE I LIKE ORKS :DD XDD XDDDD LE LE XD XD XDDD
Post conversions or something
Am I doing something wrong, or are Vallejo paints really runny?
>>98867392its a feature
I like Orks! :D
i'm just not gonna play nu-40k, simpul 'asI had a game of 4th on tuesday and it was the most fun i've had with 40k in yearsand the rules aren't complicated, I don't know why shit like 10th or 11th getd pushed around as "less complicated" when its easily more complicated because of all the things you have to keep track of
>>98867392Vallejo sucks and has for a while, use any other brand
>>98867392Shake em more. Push out a bigger blob instead of just a dribble
>98867396Get a blog, fag
I frickin love orks u guise XD
>>98867401>criticise nu-40k once>has a melty
I just buy cool minis, simple as
>>98867396>unpainted vs unbasedvgh so mvch sovl
I'm ambivalent towards Orks. :|
>>98867396This picture is giving me aneurysm. How are the orks still grey plastic but some have skin already painted green? Did you prime only skin?What kind of psychopath does this?
>>98867396Everyday with this shit, isn't there a thread for you fake grogs?
>>98867417Nuh-uh
>>98867422Ugh are you the cunt that referred to models as "dolls"?
>>98867417>le fake grogs!and yet I don't see any of your models or games
>>98867430Learn how to pull focus you retard
>>98867430I dont play 4th anon, i played it two decades ago and have no intention of playing it again
>>98867434no
>>98867429Funny, that's actually a different vostroyan player with a similar scheme
>>98867407>Once
>>98867417This isn't /40k11thg/
>>98867416I dont think the ork player is priming at all lol
I played Ace Combat 8 for 2 weeks straight and now I'm building my factions aircraft and I'm actually excited about a model again feels good man
>>98867438which of you is the one with the 500 page thread on warseer?
I've been painting my mini with only two colours, not sure if I like it or not, but I can't stand the overly detailed 'eavy metal style
>>98867459Wow he's taking the grog role-play to another level, painting like complete shit like everyone did back then.
>>98867469The other one haha, aside from lurking here I don't use the internet
>>98867470is it a neocon or a trannyd?
>i like or - ACK!
>>98867475It's Inquisitor Greyfax
>>98867463There's a lot of very cool aircraft in this game and it is a huge shame that the rules for them are always such ass.
>>98867463Play Zero next <<buddy>>
I love the big units of Necrons but really can't stand the little shitty guys like Warriors
>>98867294If they're "fighting" the fire in my living room by lighting a fire in the kitchen, then yeah I hate both cunt
>>98867528>I like buying units of necrons but not big units of necrons
>>98867323Paint the red first and then paint the black carefully.
>>98867373Such a pussy. Vehicle penetration and side armour was great. Get flanked and learn to maneuver primaicuck
>>98867481maybe im too new but how the fuck do you paint a mini like that with just 2 colours
>>98867549I'll post a picture when I'm done, it won't be good though I tell you hwhat
>>98867375One page rules works like this and it's pure trash. 4th was a decent game, not great, not bad, but it's miles ahead of nuhammer and it's bastard childs.
>>98867396Awesome, keep sharing pics.
>>98867299Nothing in the rules says you can't use 6x4.
>>98866724>TQI'd like the Forge World LoC to come back in plastic
>>98867436Your loss
>>98867437Nice.
What paint line has the best metallics?
>>98867574VMC and it really isn't close
>>98867565Not really, im happy playing the current edition. I dont feel nostalgic for older editions apart from wanting to see my friends from school again
But do they want to see you?
>>98867578Is it better than Vallejo game color? Because game color is very hit and miss.
>>98867304>they could have just as easily used a "within 1 inch of the terrain" rule instead of footprints.the problem with that is you end up having to mandate specific kinds of terrain pieces and every board looks like the same dogshit L-shaped ruins board from 10th. footprints allow much more freedom with the terrain pieces you use, because the core rules interact just with the footprint. you can do a forest or a three story building and it'll still work for a fair game.
If this vallejo talk keeps going you lot will summon the LE BUBBLES IN THE NEW FORMULA ECKS DEE spammer
>>98867574Vallejo True Metallics are great, you grab base/shade/highlight and just get away with it. Or skip the highlight and just use the base color again for cleaning up, I don't like edge highlighting on metallics as they're shiny as is.>>98867585The new game color formula is pretty runny, I'm using bright bronze and while I like it it tends to spill over to the sides unless you're being careful. The old one is rather goopy, not a big fan of it. But the new one covers really well.
>>98867574Scale 75
>>98867578They're way too fucking thin for me. They're designed for an airbrush. Putting them on by brush is just cbt.
I like painting but also don't want to do it hyper autistically detailed
>>98867609After loading my brush I touch a paper towel with it to get it rid of extra moist, that way they're not as runny.
>>98867611okay
>>98867614Sure, but then you have way less paint on your brush to work with so you need to do that every 10 seconds.You can make it work, sure, but to me they're not so much better that it'd be worth it for me to bother with the extra tedium.Maybe it's worth it if you're a display painter or something, it's not for me.
Thoughts on youtube painters?
Vallejo Metal Colour are absolutely the best metals. If all you're doing is painting like bolter barrels and belt buckles it's probably overkill though. Scale75 and Vallejo True Metals also very very good and both are worth using. I think I prefer Scale 75 to True Metals but it's only a very minor difference and they have some different tones available. I wouldn't bother with anything else while these options are there.
>>98867634They are fine I guess. Still suffer from being slopfarms. But painting videos are the only warhammer content I won't make fun of you for consuming.
>>98867643What S75 metallics do you use? I'm in the market for some metallics myself, need a regular midtone silver. I got their gold and it's pretty good.
>>98867643I'm planning to paint a shit load of 'Crons and wardoggies, so I'll go with VMC,
>>98867614paper towels are too absorbent for me. tissue or even a normal piece of paper works better for removing the excess without drying out the brush.
I THINK EONSOFBATTLE SUCKS
>>98867650thrash metal over a black metal base is a super shiny, slightly warm silver.
How is Chaos Knights as a newfag army?
>>98867650I haven't used the S75 silvers honestly just because I haven't had a need to due to my other supplies of metals. My favourite S75 metals though are Decayed Metal, Peridot and Necro Gold. I use these constantly. The bronze/copper colours are really nice too but they don't really fit the paint schemes I tend to paint.
>>98867671knights aren't an army
>>98867671bad, dont pick knights as an army, especially for a new player. pick A knight or a few wardogs and add them to a proper army like chaos marines. trying to play the game with missions and objectives with like 4 models on the table ends up being incredibly feast/famine rock paper scissors where you will either auto win or auto lose depending on weather your opponent counters you or what the mission is, and you also wont learn how to properly play the game.
>>98867671Knights seem like a pretty shit starter army. You're effectively learning a to play a different game than 95% of other players and most general tips don't apply to you. But if that's the army you like the look of the most then absolutely get that one. CK armigers looks damn cool>>98867611That's fine, most people are just stoked to play against any fully painted army.
>>98867684>>98867671also from a hobby perspective, a knight is a huge hobby project. even a simple paint scheme done to a basic tabletop standard can take weeks on a full size knight, they're a capstone model for a collection. trying to build an army out of a bunch of them is asking for burnout and being overwhelmed at the sheer scope of the project
>>98867611if you can manage to get everything base coated+shade and basing done, you are already ahead of 80% of the player base. save your effort for the character models or maybe like an elite bodyguard unit or big monster or ship, but dont sweat the details on basic infantry or bikers or whatever.
>>98867671>knights>newfagNani the fuck
>>98867682Nta but yea they are an army and one of the cooler ones to boot, most people who don’t like Knights are too intimidated to model them.
>>98867720>they are an armyno, they aren't
>>98867422god dayum that's noice and crisp, I tip my bearskin to you good sir
>>98867555Okay, but is it ass because of the core game loop or because the unit rules are bland like their models?
>>98867744>t.nomodels idiot
>>98867760you forgot your post, you only posted a signature
>>98867437I really miss the green rods.
>>98867634Some are shit faggots but many are really the lifeblood of the painting hobby, I would be nowhere near where I am without absorbing techniques from youtube videos
>>98867763No I was describing you
>>98867579>im happy playing the current editionCheck his hard drives. The amount of CP the new editions have should land you in jail.
>>98867760Silence mutant your mental illness sticks out like a sore thumb it's pathetic
>>98867769then your problems with identifying armies are a symptom of a much larger inability to understand the world and people around you
>>98867770Oh man with the new ork codex I got more CP than I know what to do with
>>98867770>That CP was only 260 points you SICK FUCK
>>98867774That’s because you’re clinically insane and shadow him like a creep
>>98867785Kek, that meme never fails to crack me up
>>98867791>himshe doesn't go by he/him anymore, anon, she's been quite explicit about it last time
>>98867793>>98867791Permanent
>>98867818Go away ffs
>>98867720Laugh at the schizo.
>>98867754Both.
tell me one time you used a stratagem other than overwatch or rapid ingress OR I'LL EAT YOUR SOUL
>>98867860armor of contemptall of the disposition strategems are just flavor texture though
Wouldn't it be fucked up if a Farseer had a vision that the only way to save her Craftworld from a major threat 100 years in the future was to cooperate with an Inquisitor, but that doing so would require lengthy spans of time with them that eventually lead to them developing romantic feelings for each other which neither are fully able to comprehend or act upon due to their respective stations, thereby emotionally scarring them both when they inevitably realize that they not only could never be together but can't even confide their feelings with others of their own kinds because of the forbidden nature of their could-have-been relationship?
>>98867840Yes we’ve been laughing at you all morning
>>98867878yeah ok but inquisitors are banging xenos all the time
my LGS owner doesnt like adapter ringhe said just get normal 40mm ring and plop the 32mm on top instead
>>98867878Man you’re creamin for elf pussy huh?
>>98867634only when its not some faggot shilling his own paint 24/7>here i use this specific paint here it is the best purple there is>use my link in the description so you can get 3% discount
Someone who knows numbers, is this bad?Like I know GAW shares were worth pennies in 2016 so anyone who had them then is now rich, but might shareholders who bought in when they started rising in COVID now be getting jittery that the rise has gone?
What's the most coomer army
>>98867925Unbelievably.
>>98867634The only reason I'm painting minis at all instead of being a secondary is because of the quality content out there for painting. I have ideas on how I want to paint things but not the time I used to have to spend hours and hours fiddling around in the dark. I can look up a few videos of what I want to achieve and see the different techniques people are using to achieve that result and adapt them for my own use. I'm still not painting nearly as good as these guys but the time I'm spending painting is actually productive from a simple hobby standpoint and from improving as an artist.
>>98867956Votann
>>98867956>form fitting armor>fat tits>exotic>can crush your mind and your dick with a thought if she wanted>immense mental discipline just to not fuck all daycraftworld eldar and it's not even close
>>98867956Genestealer Cults.
>>98867671its not really fun imojust play guard or something if you want to just pilot a lot of big fat tonks
>>98867953It's natural due to current global events. Give it a few months and it'll increase again assuming a certain President doesn't kill his country in November.
>necromunda RPG is dead and buriedOH NO NO NO NO GWbros....what went wrong?
>>98867564... he is
>>98867956sisterbut they all wearing skin color armor
>>98867956Eldar
>Dawn of War 4 is set centuries after Dawn of War:Dark CrusadeIs this a retcon or did GW give up on ordering the timeline?>>98867989Lack of interest. You can customize Necromunda using the available 40k RPG material from either FFG or Cubicle
>>98867991I'm pretty sure the made to order version is still resin but I could be wrong
>>988680151. where does it say centuries, and when did DC take place?2. doubtful, it's got to be some licensing issue, nothing to do with C7 however
>>98867989No one really cared or was actually asking for something like that much.Also things like Dark Heresy RPG, etc. by Fantasy Flight Games are better for pen & paper tabletop RPGs.
>>98868026The new trailer that just came out.DC should take place around 980-999 M41
>>98868005Eldar women were literally made for Human men by the Old Ones.
>>98868019you are correct
>>98867323Paint the red first, then carefully paint the black making sure none of the paint drips into the insetsIt's painting 101, anon
>>98867417Midhammer is best warhammer though?
>>98868015What part of it would be a retcon? They're kind of trapped, given that they are not allowed to not have the Space Marines be Primaris, so of course it has to be post-Indomitus Crusade, which puts it several centuries after Dark Crusade.
>>98868092Didn't GW retcon the timeskip?
Post your cool Knight Lancer poses Im looking for inspiration
>>98867981>>98868005>>98868052Craftworlds are for coomersCommorrites are for distinguished gentlemen
>Codex re-added the Chapter Organization chart>Veteran Intercessors and Veteran Assault Intercessors are back in the 1st CompanyThat’s wild. It’d feel strange to paint regular Marines in Veteran colors.
>>98866724Army for this feel?
>>98868139
>>98868139>distinguished gentlemenMore like extinguished gentlemen. Enjoy being turned into a literal toilet.
>>98868019>>98868063damn, I don’t like tzeentch stuff but that blows. MTO being metal is one of the best parts about them.
Does anyone else just stick with one army?I know it's autistic but I really like the idea of going all in on one thing
>>98868243This is about the Forge World LoC, dummy.The 1989 model is still in metal.
>>98868203Imperium Guard
>Go in third party store>Big Terminator standee is gone>GW section almost all gone>Paints replaced by Army Painter stand>Wall of warhammer boxes replaced by Starcraft, some Gundam shit and a Cyberpunk tcg>Whiteboard behind the counter no longer lists a 40k night, in its place is "Starcraft demo nights">Ask whats up>Manager says GW stock isn't selling and they were being expected to buy even more of stock thats not selling and it was no longer viable to carry it for the two waacfiends that play against each other as all the other regulars are just playing old editions with metal minis or moved to shit like Starcraft and, Emperor forgive me, Warmachine.Real talk for a minute, no bullshit, what the fuck is going on with geedubs?
>>98868288Sounds like bullshit to me
>And stay tuned to find out what’s on offer for Warhammer Age of Sigmar and Warhammer: The Horus Heresy.where is it?
>>98868298>Warhammer Age of Sigmar
>>98868288>my LGS now has more battletech nights than 40k nightsidk man, but they still have tons of stock.
>>98868300Permanent means permanent.
>>98868300Did she delete my lancer post?
I don't think I've ever seen anyone even mention the dwarf faction in any capacity and I regularly forget they exist
>>98867399I can only get dribbles now I've started on e, sowwy T_T
What actually is the future of White Dwarf?It feels like a really odd product now, like since the Warhammer Community website exists they've made it like... this weird thing off to the side that doesn't really overlap with much, even the latest releases aren't the focus like in the bad times before it went in the 2010s.
>>98868288I’ve seen that frequently happen with warhammer and people switching to card games like pokemon and mtg, but for some other miniature wargame (especially when the replacement isn’t marvel crisis protocol, star wars legion and shatterpoint) it sounds really strange. where do you live?
>>98868313No they deleted my pic because apparently it’s too distracting
>>98868300you still haven’t answered why you feel like you’re entitled to not listen to the rules and evade your permaban.
>>98868314I like them. I have been (very slowly) working on a Ymir Conglomerate army in-between my main projects. Maybe one day I'll be done.
>>98868325The community website has jack shit on it after they wiped out the old website which had tons of awesome articles. Not sure what they want to transition to, maybe a bunch of shitty youtube videos? Honestly what a sad, sad state of affairs.
>>98868325>the future of White Dwarf?The same as the print codexesYou buy it to say you have it as a collector's item because what actually matters from it is available otherwise online for free or is behind a separate subscription-based paywall
>>98868314the 40kg hate cult for the dwarfs drove a lot of the dwarf posters here to just stop talking about them or posting their models. we went elsewhere.
>>98868366Hate for the Destiny moron is not to be conflated for hate for votann
>>98868325>Mfw found my old Paul Sawyer era issues the other day and sat to read through them>Over half the book is hobby stuff, scratch built terrain, oc kitbash models with a stat sheet and build guide with bits listed to buy direct>Every page is more text than images>Thicker magazine>Actual sovl original art and not this macdonalds self serve kiosk aesthetic full of recycled art and photos>Very little original content and mostly adverts for other thingsGW has gone full Kirby era again and the magazine is the canary in the coalmine.
>>98868378why do you think you’re not banned?
>>98868378nigga if you playing word games and semantics with bans then you don't have any respect for the law at all, obese piece of shit
>>98868353I bought my bro 400$ worth of stuff for them and he painted only 1 figure so far.
>>98868376no it pre-dates the destiny shit. for like at least the first 6 months after their debut you couldnt even talk about them without dozens of replies flaming the faction. it was tau 2.0
>>98868378this is clearly false because you stated when you had the tripcode you had to turn it off because jannies kept banning you for making regular posts.
>>98868325this looks like a bait image because those are the mail in/staff model showcase, an army showcase, and what looks like some cutout data cards or whateverhowever it is also a dogshit magazine with objectively less and worse content than it used to haveremember when they tried selling a weekly magazine of nothing but pictures of models?
>>98868202I've done most of my squad sergeants as veterans with terminator honours. Every company has its own veteran contingents as well.
>>98868294His story is probably bullshit, but that kind of thing actually did happen in the 6e-7e period where tons of stores dropped GW products.
>>98868408no it isn’t you outright said that you got targeted by the mods.https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98735620/#98736970https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98735620/#98736998
>>98868410Can’t wait till they bring more of the boys back, they should Q the music “The Boys are back in town!” For the next Primarch release.
>>98868288local tastes ebb and flow and independent stores have to adapt to that. GW's last financial statement shows plenty of growth in its trade revenue.
Yeah, I pre-ordered the prepainted terrain.
>>98868441how do you know any of this? did a mod personally tell you the situation, and how do you know the mods just aren’t observing the thread while you post?
>>98868410I'm guessing now that Tacticals are no longer a thing, the 7th reserve company isn't trained in Land Speeder piloting anymore.
Marines are T5 now? Wtf are terminators then? Wtf is the purpose of a heavy bolter? Fuck, is this the autocannon edition?
>>98868452anyone who has the book or a photo of the next page that shows the reserve companies could solve this mystery, but I do not.
>>98868462
>>98868481I live in a third world country and play mostly 7th edition, my bad. MEQ means what now?
>>98868462>Wtf are terminators then?T6>Wtf is the purpose of a heavy bolter?To do more attacksHeavy Bolters do 3 attacks and have Rapid Fire 2Bolt Rifles do 2 attacks and have Rapid Fire 1Both are S5AP-1>is this the autocannon editionNo, because those don't do as many attacks as heavy bolters and you're very likely to run into an enemy with a coinflip invuln save so you're better off rolling more lower-power attacks than a few higher-power attacks to have a better chance of one of those attacks making it through and just hoping you can "chip damage" the enemy down.Having lots of attacks is the meta and always will be the meta until GW changes how S and T work because as it stands now intercessors can expect to do 1-3 wounds to a Leman Russ with their S6 bolt rifle profile.
>>98868491>Having lots of attacks is the meta and always will be the meta until GW changes how S and T work because as it stands now intercessors can expect to do 1-3 wounds to a Leman Russ with their S6 bolt rifle profile.Wasn't a problem when there were armor facings for vehicles btw
>>98868491Those stats are fanfiction.
>finally moved my tables and models back into my workroomIf I hadn't been so lazy with it I could've treated my collage model to an oil wash, but now I don't think I have time. Marine juice it is, then.
>>98866724>tqgibe da scorp
>>98868452They’re still specialized in fast attack and land speeders.
>>98868435>Yeah, I pre-ordered the prepainted terrain.
>>98868485MEQs are 2 wounds with a 3+ save, infantry toughness hasn't mattered much for years. Normal marines still die really easily to anything with 2 damage and some AP, and the T5 units are honestly some of the worst in the new book. Phobos stayed T4 and have much better rules for the same cost. Without an invulnerable save durability means nothing.
>>98868508huh? you've got like a week left. plenty of time for oils to dry.
>>98868506Those stats are literally out of the SM codex datasheets but okayBolt Rifle is as-written on the Intercessor sheet referencing the "saturation" profile when in the Heavy Bolter comparison and the "focused fire" profile when talking about chip damage into tanks.Heavy Bolter is as-written on the Heavy Intercessor sheet.Unless you're meming and saying that 11th edition isn't real.
>>98868552Intercessors are really bad it's funny how angry non-marine players were when that datasheet was first previewed. 10 shots (in rapid fire range) hitting on 3s, wounding on 5s and AP-1 against a tank with a 2+ save is almost not worth firing.
It's somewhat tangential but things have taken a very bad turn for Total War Warhammer 40k.Creative Assembly recently released an 'enhanced' version of an older game, Total War Shogun 2, which had been heavily outsourced and has been met with universally negative responses. This backlash has gone so far as to cause Creative Assembly to pull the game from storefronts, before issuing an apology and stating that an in-house effort is being made to create a properly enhanced version.The problem is that this means resources are being taken from Total War Warhammer 40k to create the fix, and given Creative Assembly's schedule another game will likely begin full development before Total War 40k's release.The good news is that most of the work for Space Marines, Orks, and Imperial Guard seems finished or in late development. All three factions have had extensive roster reveals and gameplay showcases.The bad news is that Eldar hage seemingly not even begun proper development, and with the new timeframe and resource drain it seems unlikely that they will get anywhere near the polish of the other three factions. On top of this, there are still numerous other factions people are clamoring for as DLC, which the devs will likely be pivoting to shortly after release.In short; Eldar are going to be an absolute mess of a faction that will be left unfinished and unpolished for what's likely to be years.
>total war 40k has no chaos>dawn of war 4 has no chaos>space marine 2 has no chaos???
>>98868568Good ragebait attemptYou almost got me with how on-its-face bad faith it is>>98868589SM2 spent a good chunk of its campaign fighting Thousand Sons.
>>98868592yeah but you don't get to play as chaos
>>98868589>>space marine 2 has no chaos
>>98868595YeaIf you were, it'd have been called *Chaos* Space MarineNo but seriously GW has a problem with making games from the "bad guy" perspective if it's anything but a strategy game.
>>98868602>>98868595>>98868603Just make boltgun but as a khorne berserker instead
>>9886855211th edition is not cannon.
>>98868571>In short; Eldar are going to be an absolute mess of a faction that will be left unfinished and unpolished for what's likely to be years.The only better news would have been if they got shitcannned altogether
>>98868589goodif you want deamon so much, go play fantasy
>>98868626>cannonCorrect, 11th edition is not a large gun, but it is canon as being a game edition of 40k.
>>98868629At this point that might actually happen, with them being turned into post-release 'free' content which will make them even lower priority.
>>98868633I want csm bruh
>>98868626>cannon
>>98868571I think totalwar40k looks kinda shit40k vidya should play more like wargame instead something like red dragon or broken arrow
>>98868629Kek
I wanna do a T'au Sept ghostkeel but can't decide on either the classic stealth suit black and red, or the ochre
>>98868656Black stealth suits is kinoAnything else is cringe
>>98868603>No but seriously GW has a problem with making games from the "bad guy" perspective if it's anything but a strategy game.Way less audience, evil team players have always been significantly smaller numbers than blue team players so the cost to develop compared to returns looks bad to the accounting side.
>>98868656Ghostkeels are painted in ochre.
>>98868643>>98868634But yeah anything past 7th is fanfic.
>>98868675Nah
>>98868689This looks retarded
>>98868592which eldar army do you play
>>98868629I genuinely don't get why people vehemently hate the elfs like bro I'm sorry your shit got raped by banshees that one time but you gotta let go
What was even the point to retcon how wraithbone works ?
>>98868696YOU LOOK RETARDED
>>98868689This looks cool
>>98868696Your mom is retarded
>>98868712Probably some stupid motherfucker new wave hire got a bug up his ass about something and made the change. I fucking hate GW so much
>>98868712It was previously too alien and weird and the hack writers didn't know how to handle it or make it part of a wider story. Now you can have Eldar and Votann fighting over wraithbone veins in the ground or whatever
>>98868720>>98868689This fucking sucks
>>98868703>Tabletop rules that have been actively opposed to having fun>Every plot they have is about how they lose, even when they win>Polar opposite of the Imperium design wise>Eldsr 'fans' bitch and moan about literally everything despite getting major content from GW
y-you guys aren't actually playing Starcraft are you?
>>98868668I understand those.I was pointing out to the other anon that GW has hang-ups with making a "bad guy" game and thus doesn't do it, those hang-ups being what you listed.>>98868703>your shit got raped by banshees that one timeI wish those two would rape my shit one time...
>>98868740Fuck no
>>98868740Brother, I have already considered writing fiction where my Eldar meet some Protoss and they fight Zerg together.
>>98868740It's more fun than my army at the moment.
>>98868720>>98868689These would look better in ochre.
>>98868689Nice. Mine is piloted by a human.
>>98868740Aniki my Space Wolves Combat Patrol is temporarily shelved..
>>98868758I take it back, the other ones are fine. THIS shit sucks.
>>98868740None of my friends want to even though they played Brood Wars back in the day like fiends.
>>98868550I still need to prime it, and I paint at a snail's pace.
>>98868698Genestealers
Mechs?
>>98868763We are in for so many coomer tyranid kitbashes, aren't we?
>>98868777Sadly trips of truth confirms snatched waist hive queens for our future inshallah.
>>98868774Best I can do is an open topped artillery piece.
40k needs to bring back the silly bullshit from 2nd-4th edition.>Want to play the war in heaven? find a friend with Lizardmen and run them as Eldar!>Lost 50% of your Necrons? games over your leader said fuck it and ported the whole army away>Heres a Goblin wolf rider that burned down Bugmans Brewery made up by Fat Bloke in a 200's issue of white dwarf>Heres Genestealer Orks and an army entirely of kitbashed mutants!We were not competitive, but gods we were strong then.
>>98868740I need a break from competitive t-sports for a narrative focussed game sometimes lad. Its a simple life.
>>98868777hive queens are for violent breeding and gentle cuddling, not for gooning.
>>98868810>Coloured plastic piecesw-what sorcery is this??
>>98868807why do people think you can't kitbash or proxy stuff any more?
>>98868807All I want is Ork Shokk Attakk gunz to have 2D6 strength
>>98868814At least not until Luzaku arrives in wave 3.
>>98868818Because GW themselves have treated it largely as something only done for competition pieces and tried to make WYSIWYG the norm as part of the competitionwank.Gone are the days where White Dwarf would list all the bits used to make a kitbash OC you could buy direct. Now its all monopose and god forbid you put the wrong knee demarkation on a space marine.
>>98868823>All I want is Ork Shokk Attakk gunz to have
>>98868807>Genestealer Orkskino, one of my biggest daydreams is to eventually get some genestealer bits, and kitbash some ork boyz. I also got a great unclean one for my birthday, so I guess I’ll be doing nurgle orks too
>>98868850you could also have a very fat orkish patriarch
>>98868850You can do it. This is your world, you're the creator. Find freedom on your canvas.
>>98868850forgot pic.
>>98868861>ZodgogThis sounds like a slur only know by people that visit the darkweb.
>>98868850the kommandos kitbash is perfect, the masks help sell the hybrid look
>>98868835But the latest codex are walking back WYSIWYG. A bunch of marine units no longer make weapon choices between ranged or melee, the new ork boyz have both weapons, all the PDF weapons for tanks were consolidated into Defense Array instead of 5 different guns, the custodes no longer change weapons to pick up banners, sternguard no longer pick between combi-weapon and super bolt-gun it's both an artificer weapon.
>>98868703Ive won and lost against Eldar enough times that I don't give a shit about their rules anymore, they're just gay and their fans deserve worse
>>98868875That’s well said
>>98868875I don't really get how Eldar even have fans. Their lore sucks and their models are okay at best.
>>98868835>tried to make WYSIWYG the norm as part of the competitionwank.this is textbook making up a dude to get mad at, there's far less interest or enforcement of wysiwyg in modern 40k. literally no one in the real world cares about "the wrong knee demarkation on a space marine" and only starter set kits are monopose (and still easily kitbashed with the same tools we've always used)
>>98868883The models just look like they belong in a totally different game
The only good Eldar model is the Wraithknight
>>98868874the secondary wants to imagine himself persecuted by evil GW, don't shatter his illusions.
>>98868885There shouldn't be but i've seen people that got in during covid say "kitbashing should be illegal and a tourney ban". Never underestimate how fucking stupid people who chase trends are.
>>98868835If you're not taking part in grand tournaments then you absolutely can get away with proxies and kitbashing. Even local tournaments are pretty forgiving when it comes to kitbashes.
>>98868885so true, GW definitely didn't and isn't invested in making sure people have to pay them again to use a unit
>>98868905There's always been weirdos in this hobby that started with the autistic playing historical wargames and model train sets. It's not pushed by the company at all, even in major tournaments.>>98868916Unit comp like that isn't wysiwyg, it's the opposite. Run the models you own and everyone will know what gear it's supposed to have.
>listening to poorhammer episode>brad goes on about a vulture themed chapter >about a minute later he asks if he said vulture when he meant raven >eric does that fucking annoying "i don't know" grunt mumble thing >they can't remember what he said not even a minute ago Beyond that, they constantly make fun of regular, blue collar people, they promote tranny shit, they're clear twitter users and have the sheer gall to say they're too busy when they do a fucking podcast and have a team.Holy shit I hate poorhammer so goddamn much
>>98868916man what the FUCK were they thinking with this one. can't wait for some of these idiots to get on the podcast circut to talk about this shit
Wait, people actually take this as a legitimate competitive game instead of a narrative board game?Fucking lmao
>>98868933Everyone will know, yes, but the rules only allow for what they have written and having your boyz with shootas all count as shoota boyz is not only directly against the rules but, far more importantly, not a factor in balancing the unit when it comes to all the other factors like points and rulesYou can and you should simply homebrew your way around it, but it's asking you to homebrew things that you bought the fucking codex to have done for you rather than something cool and unique like the exact stats of your walker's trouser cannon
Imagine being a Night Lord fan
I hope Starcraft gives GW the swift kick up the arse it needs. Its narrative focussed, affordable, equal or better quality, uses different coloured plastics for factions or energy so greytide does not exist and has alternating activations and a pass token people screamed about for in like 9th edition.Its just deeply fucked that BLIZZARD of all people are the ones getting people to look away from 40k. Deeply ironic when you think about it.
>>98868949I mean it is competitive from an intellectual standpoint but of course it’s not balanced at all
>>98868954The thing they need to lift from Starcraft is actual different armies using one army 'codex'. They are putting out infested terrans that use zerg rules and units but also have infestation upgrade sprues for Terran units. Like what if Imperial Agents wasn't dogshit.Like imagine a Chaos Space Marines codex with a section about making your list Word Bearers or something and not just "ehhh this detachment fits the vibe i think?".
>>98868954It won't. The game has already stalled out and Archon is scrambling to change their scheduled releases to try and regain some ground, but the game has widely flopped and shipping issues have hit it badly in the US.
>>98868954If your game is so amazing, then why do you Starcraft niggas keep coming here to shill it? Suck my fucking dick, nigga. Go back to your gen
>>98868967>the game has floppedAre we really doing this /v/ tier "unless it sells ten morbillion copies it flopped" rubbish
>>98868967>in the USsir we are talking about real countries not Little Israelgrad.
For me it's proxy pylons then warping in DTs to rape the mineral line
>>98868970This might shock you but the game about space marines fighting mystic aliens and a bug hive mind are also fans of the game about space marines fighting mystic aliens and a bug hive mind.Good devs watch their competition and steal what works. Bad ones think they are too big to fail and competition isn't worth paying attention to until its too late.
>>98866907Good shit anon I'm glad you're having fun. This place says post models and play the game so I always find it funny when someone who both posts nicely painted models and plays the game gets ignored or worse get some pissant comment from some retard. Yet this place regularly goes on for hours about the resident shitposters and who is who behind which posts. If it weren't for the handful of people who talk about painting and gaming I would have been gone months ago. So thanks for being one of the good posters.
rest assured that blizzard is one of the few companies capable of keeping up with GW in the race to be the blindest, most anti-customer, spiteful, retarded party in this battlein fact I think they might win, because even GW sells their drooling fans space marines while blizzard tries to make metal nerds pay them for disney animals
>>98868971>>98868975>Yeah man, a game bungling its deliveries to the largest market on the planet that isn't China is totally fineSee you in six months when you're bitching and complaining about how your SC models are now paperweights.
How can I do a blood splatter effect across a model without it looking like a shitty mess?
>>98869004All i know is i'm using the big worm to represent all kinds of shit in my Tyranid army.Also makes me remember to check if GSC ever got their big fuck off drill back.
>>98869004They’re disgustingly liberal and stupid nowadays
>>98869019THIS is what people are thinking will get GW's attention? Is this some kind of joke?
>>98869013Get a straw and blow it at a brush with some blood for the blood god if fresh, if not stipple a piece of sponge with a reddish brown.
>>98869034Thats all one box for 150 english poonds lad.
>>98869030And GW isn't? The majority of BL 40k books have black women with cornrows on their covers
>>98869043FUCK.
>>98868325I still keep an eye on it in case they come out with more space marine operations
>>98869043It looks fucking pathetic. That isn't a wargame board, that's not even a Skirmish game board. Even 11th's shitty terrain footprints offer more than that.
>>98869013If you're not too squeamish/you possess a soul then looking at actual images or footage of bleeding helps teach you that the splatters you get on minis basically doesn't happen in realityYou need a lot more, or a lot less, blood to sell the illusion, and it needs to be fairly constrained - blood doesn't tend to explode out of living things when they're hit with blades or claws or teeth, it's more squirts and dribbles
>>98869012That's cool except 2 DTs are attacking your SCVs because you didn't build detection, GG EZ
>>98868954Starcraft sold well on launch but it's already dead, they fucked their supply lines upHopefully it sold well enough to get the warcraft miniatures game greenlit
>>98869045Oh no they are too it’s just Blizzard is a pioneer for faggotry in the gaming world
>>98869043Good. I hope the starcraft tabletop does well. GW needs to get it's bell rung every once in awhile.
>>98869066I had like ten guys at my LGS who were big on it for a month and it's already dwindled down to just two. It's actually kinda pitiful.
>>98869057Its to emulate the Lost Temple pvp map from Starcraft 1 you uncultured swine.
>>98869066>new game with promise comes out>supply lines fuck up critical momentum>once product is finally available again people have lost interestIts Lorcana all over again.
>>98869013The best way to get a realistic splatter pattern is to make a real splatter pattern.>set up backing that covers 3 sides, I use a cardboard box>set model inside of backing box, set it towards its rear so you have more distance between you and the model>get decent-sized brush (I'd avoid toothbrushes, but you do need the bristles to be a bit stiffer than normal paint brushes)>put something like Tamiya clear red or Citadel Blood for the Blood God on the brush>thumb the bristles towards the model with some force to cause the bristles to flick instead of bendThis flicks paint out of the brush onto the model (and the backing), and you will likely fuck up the brush trying this the first time (so use a shitty or beat-up brush). If you want splatter only on parts, same thing but put some masking over the parts of your model you want "clean."I'm sure you can find a few videos talking about this method. I think there's even a Duncan Rhodes video from his time at GW about it.
>>98869066>Looking at your death guard minis like the kid in Toy Story as you drop them and say "My life for Ner'zhul".
>>98868954To me it feels like Starcraft is what 40k wants to be right now, it feels much less clunky, the prices are better, and so far I've had really close games as opposed to one-sided stomps.
>>98869066It's working out at my LGS but my LGS has a competitive slant which is probably why it's caught on so nicely. Supply lines don't really matter if you're a 40k player and already put up with GW's nonsense.
>>98869118>Starcraft is what 40k wants to be right now,Dead in a ditch after scrambling and failing to recover?
>>98869131>Supply lines don't really matter if you're a 40k player and already put up with GW's nonsense.That only holds true if the game has a model range with existing models or plentiful proxies like 40k
>>98869136More the level at which it's streamlined.
>>98869140The army I play in 40k only has like two or three actual datasheets that matter while the others are a waste of time and money, so it's not really that big of a difference to me.
>>98869103I'd kill for an alliance footmen box and some paladin/classic death knight heroesA gorefiend or grom/garrosh model would be peak as well
>>9886914140k does not need even more streamlining, thats how we got to the sorry state its in today
>Starcraft thread is so dead they have to come here to get attentionGo back to being miserable in your own general, blizzfags. Your game is dead and you're wasting your breath.
>>98869150Yet they're still trying and it's a miserable experience.
>>98869141I don't know why they haven't even tried to create a Spearhead version of 40k. Boarding Actions are abandoned and Combat Patrol isn't even half assed anymore. Kill-team has kind of died out since the new edition launch too as it's own game. Are they afraid of a small skirmish game version of 40k becoming more popular than big hammer and hemorrhaging sales or something?
>>98869150Starcraft streamlined the core rules to let players get more variety in the factions. So coming up Zerg gets infested Terrans, Terrans get Dominion and Protoss get the Taldarim.Imagine if the choice during list building of which 'faction' you were from the codex felt like an actual faction. We used to have that in 40k but i want to say 7th was when they started to actively resent that level of hobbying over tournament waacfag shit that sold grey tide rental armies to those shitters. You should all remember the iron hands horseshit.
>>98869157Maybe? Kill Teams was perfectly set up as a small skirmish game even though it has a big narrative shaped hole in it; the funny part is that it has a lot of things that would do well in a more narrative game but they just cut it all out. GW just fucked it up: KT is dead in my area and it's really only competitive 40k that's going strong plus Starcraft for the time being.
>>98869157They haven't done it because they dont need to. 40k sells. AoS doesnt so they needed Spearhead to be good enough to get people to play it. Like you said, the equivalent used to be Killteam. Last edition if someone was interested in 40k they could buy a box of troops from an army they're interested in, paint them up and play KT with them then transition to 40k. Now KT is a bloated mess that has no compendium teams.
>>98869157Because they don't need to. 40k is the best selling tabletop game by an obscene margin. Why bother adding something that would just waste a customer's time? Combat Patrol exist to be the sampler, new players can try that.
>>98869162Plus the boxes for a single KT team are over $100 here which can be prohibitive.
>>98868288My retarded ass LGS has had boxes sitting around for almost a decade and they refuse to mark them down on clearance, or even the standard 15-20%, so they'll just continue to rot.
>>98869157Its fucked up but most GW games are floundering right now. >AoS: new edition sold badly, sales down in general>40k: new edition sold badly, sales down in general>Warcry: dead>Underworlds: dead>Imperialis: dead>Titanicus: MIA>Nu Epic: did you even know this existed?>Spearhead: just a way to dump excess stock>Combat Patrol: same as above>Boarding Actions: Dead>Necromunda: more people sticking to previous edition, just cancelled rpg 35 days after announcing it>Blood Bowl: getting a fraction of the support 2nd edition did>Kill Team: barely a game just exists to sell one unit for an army at a mark up now >mesbg: new edition and shift to none jackson film anime art style killed resurgence last edition was havingThe only game not in the shitter compared to a few years ago is The Old World of all fucking things. Turns out WHFB 9th edition was what the neckbeards wanted all along and Border Patrols is what Spearhead, Combat Patrol and Boarding Actions failed to be. An engaging first toe in the pool for beginners while allowing for a ton of variety and donut steel kitbashing for sickos.Theres a reason GW's stock is devaluing rapidly for the first time since covid. Shits FUCKED.
>>98869175Bloodbowl gets good support idk what you're talking about. Its also arguably GW's best game. Sometimes (most of the time) its better for GW to be pretty hands off with your game.
>>98869175How do I unsubscribe from your fanfic
Why DID epic die, anyway? It sure seems like a microscopic scale is ideal for 40k's lore/visuals/fantasy
>>98869183You climb to the top of a multi story carpark, stand on the edge and do a flip. Since you are ignoring reality i'm sure you will bounce and be fine.
>>98869184I heard the rules were god awful and it was more of a slog to play than actual fun.
>>98869184People realised it wasn't epic, it was more HH space marine wank. Didn't you want ANOTHER game thats just fucking space marines?
>>98869184>have to paint a lot more models>those models are microscopic so it's harder to paint them than the other scales GW sell>have to move a bunch of shit all the time, the thing that every WAACfag complains about and is why 40k has shafted horde armies recently>rules are dumb because GW
>>98868827>LuzakuNo way, they're already doing Destiny collabs?
>>98869193>and is why 40k has shafted horde armies recentlyAfter deliberately forcing more armies towards a horde playstyle.
>>98869175Embarassing to pretand flop world isn't in the gutter
>>98869187>Ignoring realityProjection I know you /v/ermin love to act like market experts when you see any stocks dip but it is quite tiresome
>>98869193>those models are microscopic so it's harder to paint them than the other scales GW sellActually this makes them easier to paint.
>>98869175>compared to a few years ago is The Old WorldLOL
>>98869198It's a funny cycle>GW encourages horde armies>People buy more models>People complain about painting so majy models>GW pulls back a bit and discourages horde armies>People sell their extra minis>Time passes>GW then backtracks and encourages Horde armies>Players must now buy more models again
>>98869215>>People sell their extra minisI own over 200 guardsmen from various editions. Why do you idiots think everyone's model collection is exactly the 2000 point list they play?
>>98869219Because people actually do sell minis, especially when they overbuy and can't keep up with painting.
>>98869219>People do this>Nuh uh I don't that means people don'tYou aren't very bright, but then again you are a guardfag
>>98869206NTA but it's gotten a constant stream of arcane journals, updated models, an entirely new army range, and theyve been reprinting long out of print WHFB BL books with the Old World branding. I think it's safe to say its at least doing better than GW predicted it would.
>>98869219Why would you want to hoard 200 guardsmen unless you're autistic and making like 3-4 individually themed lists for the same faction. Seems pretty silly mate, you could sell half and still have plenty of them
>>98869213The Old World is actually doing very well right now. A few years ago everyone was going "welp those orc and dorf battalions dont exist, they tried and failed, gg" and people assumed its dead.But what they actually did was do a full culture shift around the game to /yourdudes/ bullshit instead. With Armies of Infamy that are stuff like an all slayer Dwarf army or all Minotaur beastman and over time have put out Arcane Journal booklets that add new rules and options for stuff like running Empire as a disgraced Border Prince with different list building rules. Not for competitions sake but for narratives.Its proven to be very popular and people have commented how ironic it is that the Beastmen leaving AoS has seen AoS effectively flatline but Beastmen are one of the most popular armies in TOW and their heroes and monsters are often out of stock compared to the Empire and Orcs that surprisingly are popular but not nearly as popular as Beastmen and Undead. Shit we are getting basic bitch Tomb King core battleline unit resculpts soon. I don't think anyone expected that a few years ago.
>>98869206Old Worlds way more popular at my locals than 40k is right now. You can get a Border Patrol box and have a 500-750pt army good to go. Thats the kind of shit that would have saved WHFB.
>>98869241If I had more money I'd go all in on getting to AoS just because I think the skeletons are cool.
>>9886922740kg hates to hear it but people owning multiple armies and various points over the game standard is very much the norm unless you're some snot nosed timmy who started yesterday. But this place is full of poorfags and secondaries so they took everyone is rocking 2000 points of one army and then sell and rebuy models because an edition favours infantry or transports for an edition.
>>98869184The shift from 2nd ed Epic, to the 3rd edition Epic 40K, changed the rules dramatically in ways the were catastrophic to the community and widely hated at the time. Sales did not do well and it became part the first specialist games wing. It later got rebuilt and made into one of the better games GW has made and had a decent community in the 2010s, tournaments, etc. It still kicks around now as a cult classic. 2nd edition rules were clunky and detailed in the way 80s/90s gw was, which can be a lot of fun but is a specific taste. 3rd streamlined too hard, the rebuild Epic Armageddon solved the problems, added back in some complexity but still works well as a grand scale game. The rules are free and easy to find.
>>98869215That's how WHFB died at my LGS, people realized they had to buy and paint so many models for most armies that they just quit.
Speaking of The Old World what do you guys think of its decision to set it in a period where their equivalent of the Eye of Terror has been closed and chaos is in massive decline?It still has human chaos worshippers that are a huge problem but they are more the barbarian hordes of Conan than great sorcerers leading hordes of demons. Hell i dont think demons can currently manifest due to the closure of the rip at the top of the world. So with Chaos in decline for a few generations the barbarians worship different ideas of the ruinous powers like the hive gangers do on necromunda. For example the Chaos Marauders are longship sailing coastal slaver raiders that worship Nurgle as "The Carrion Crow" and all their iconography is sickly dead birds.What if we got an edition where the eye closes and chaos looks to be gone, for a time, which could give them time to do the demon refresh they have clearly been ruminating on for years while letting chaos marines lean more into the violent privateers and obscure cult angles.
>>98869239because I'm basing my collection on those regiment organization charts you find in an imperial armour or in the codex. some platoons/units are also themed (like wearing gas masks) or are based on old codex units (like veterans/conscripts)
>>98869265That's how WHFB died everywhere yet there were still retards complaining that you didn't need to paint up blocks upon blocks of infantry to play Old World
>>98869253I have to agree with you, I own 4 armies with posts vastly over 2k for each
>>98869253I remember being in primary school in like 98 and invited to the new kids house to see his "war hammers" which i knew nothing about at the time.Motherfucker was 10 and i shit you not had 8000 points of Dark Angels. Parents must have been loaded.
>>98869175>Kill Team: barely a game just exists to sell one unit for an army at a mark up nowThis one hurts the most, it was the best, most fun and balanced game GW had, and suddenly they decided to legends half the game, some two year old models, break the balance so Space Marines could be a tier above everyone and...wait a second, isn't that what happened to 40k too? I'm starting to think this was intentional.
>>98869268??? Its set right before the Great War of Chaos.
>>98869265I think the only army that applies for in TOW is vampire counts because everybody wants their 120 zombies in blocks of 30 horseshit.
>>98869287>was the best, most fun and balanced game GW hadBloodbowl didnt go anywhere though?
>>98869253You can't read AND can't tell the difference between your anecdotes and the majority experience Definitely a braindead guardfag
>>98869294bloodbowl isn't balanced inasmuch as it is casual, KT was competitive AND balanced. I'm not saying this as a negative, my other favorite game is Necromunda, which is casual instead of competitive and also very fun.
>>98869296My experience is the majority though, you bald headed dumb FUCK!
>>98869253>started marine army this month>1975 points bought already>more if you count my rhinos from other armies>multiple armies over 4k pointsidk just buy models you like its not hard.
>>98869198>deliberately forcing more armies towards a horde playstyleDo the math on a 3-man of Aggressors at the new stat line shooting flamers into a 20-man of any t3 unit (guardsmen, etc).Aggressors have>3 attacks each at base>but blast 2, so add 2 for every 5 models in the target model>20/5=4, 4x2=8, 8+3=11, 11x3=33 total attacksThose attacks autohit (via torrent), are s5ap-1 if within 9 inches of the target (they should be), have twin-linked to reroll, and those guardsmen save on 6+ in response.This is a 90-point unit at t6w3.GW isn't forcing people to a horde playstyle, they're forcing everyone into character and tankspam to deal with everything while still having enough toughness, wounds, invulns and FNPs to survive long enough against their "elite" opponents.>>98869209Harder to detail well vs. 40k scale models is what I meant.
>>98869289Yes and for a long time chaos has been in decline. The point of the great war was a return of chaos that saw it lead to the shithole state the world is in WHFB. Right now in TOW chaos is largely a folk tale to scare kids for most mortals. The only true sign being times when Morghur is alive because the amount of humans birthing Gavebeasts they abandon in the woods to be raised by maidengors is more than natural human births. But to be fair Morghur is some eldritch horror beyond chaos and is basically entropy incarnate so even breaks the rules about the waxing and waning of chaos.Point is The Old World is before the way which is the equivalent of the 13th black crusade. Chaos exist right now, but hasn't been as activate as it will be in WHFB for generations. The focus is the warring mortal states for the most part.
>>98869311They ldeliberately forced my ad mech army towards a horde playstyle and then ended up fucking up the rest of the army.
>>98869305Kek don’t let him get you heated brother
>>98869175>>AoS: new edition sold badly, sales down in general>Ogor Mawtribes Army Set sells out within 40 mins of going live>Khazalite Holds Army Set sells out within 10 mins of going liveYeah, I call bullshit.
>>98869324Friend its 2026, trump is president again, russia is collapsing, jk rowling is still mental and scalpers shockingly still exist.
>>98869313>The focus is the warring mortal states for the most part.They why did chaos warriors, chaos knights, marauders, and chaos lord on dragon get huge range refreshes? And why are TK involved in almost every AJ?
>>98869326>I-its scalpers!!!Have chatgpt generate you another paragraph about how TOW totally isn't dead lmao
>>98869326It's like 2016 all over again.
>>98869317I play guard, they're doing the exact opposite to me by making guardsmen too expensive points-wise to be worth even bringing because they die too fast and have too little benefit on-table, while making tanks so cheap that as I often repeat, 4/7 LR variants are the same cost or cheaper than 20 Cadians.I don't know what GW wants for us, it doesn't make sense.
>>98869328Because its a powder keg building up to the opening act of the great war. But the actual plot of TOW right now is roughly:>Dumbass bret grail knights robbed settras tomb of relics so hes razing the south west of the empire>The Emperor is dead and three different counts are vieing for the throne>Krawlmaw the beast prophet has forseen the earliest butterfly effect tipping points for the return of chaos and the end times and is stirring shit in the north>Chaos barbarians are assaulting cathay from the north >The Wood Elves are terrified Morghur has been reborn and fortifying>Sylvania and the Under Empire both full north korean isolation as they are having their own civil wars>Lizardmen not abroad because chaos is weak right now>Elves doing fuck knows what to the west>Dwarves don't like Orcs and are gettin' a bit racist about it>Orcs don't like Dwarves and are gettin' a bit racist about it>Cathay tried to bring a warpstone meteor down on the ogres who are highly resistant to chaos, irradiating the farmlands for generations while creating a giant maw shaped crater the ogres worship as a god, unifying them into tribes of sizes never seen before. Woops.
>>98869326>Scalpers>In Warhammer
>>98869355Yeah I aint reading all that you spastic retard
>>98867359Not confirmed, but he's usually pretty aggressive about false accusations and he's yet to deny it.
>>98869360Alright gay boy don't have your period.
is the red terror ever getting its own release? or is it gone forever again?
>>98867326Wannabe jannies have latched onto him as their current thing to policeThey get especially upset when they get banned for their offtopic circlejerking over him
>>98869379Nta but he’s a little shit anyway and deserves far worse than the hate he gets here and no I don’t care about his rat posts.
Wip knight.Blue is Kaleido Clear paint over Vallejo Aluminium base. And a satin varnish.
>>98869391Permanent
>>98869395Very nice
>>98869395clean af
>>98869395Whoa! Very cool! I love the metallic look, it’s giving off some badass Optimus prime vibes >>98869396Piss off
>>98869405PermanentMeansPermanent
>>98869377They fucked up the mold. Even the initial box release had defects in the plastic. It'll be back eventually but not for a while. I wouldn't expect it until the Tyranids codex.
>>98869405PMP
>>98869413waiting till the codex isnt the end of the world i guess, i'd just be bummed if i missed out on it. but the scalper prices were crazy. last i saw its currently going for $400 usd
>>98869419Bro seriously shut up
Another one.
>>98869456We should play a game against each other
>>98869456Really tastefully done, very clean.
>>98869468No thanks your knights look like shit
>>98868952>NL fan>Redditor>TrannyLol, lmao
>>98869468Sure. Your knights look awesome.
Why are knight posters always the chillest posters
>>98869468was the broodlord always that big? Is that an upscaled print?
>>98869506I think he was proxying in a different model? Don't remember
I’m jerking off to femboys and watching W40k lore vids. What’s everyone else doing on a Friday?
>>98869534I'm donating to Israel and painting up my Space Wolves!
>>98869505Because they are natural go getters, the ones who don’t shy from a challenge and love to overcome adversity and encourage others to do the same. Knightchads are in a special club of their own in this hobby.
>>98869468These suck
Working on OLD Forge World models gives me a better idea why they had such a reputation(granted, they're a lot better nowadays).Love this model but it does look wonky up close.
>>98869584Yea he looks pretty grizzly
May be dumb to ask here but any tips for airbrushing? Got one recently and was going to try and use it for quick basecoating initially.
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