*Blocks your path* EditionPrevious thread: >>98847818>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>Titanicus Compendiumshttps://gofile.io/d/bVNzwe2R>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/TQ: Have you ever tilted at windmills before?
>>98870807I'm a game designer, 90% of my job is tilting at the windmill that is corporate
Titanicus occupied thread.
Imagine whatever city you live in. Imagine titans walking around it. Imagine. IMAGINE.bitch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6SIHlK3LqQ
>>98870975I will not imagine that.
>>98870975Only thing I ever Imagine is a .38 special revolver and John Lennons skull, sorry
Which Imperial Fist character do you like the most, and why?
Why Horus Heresy and Titanicus are not two separate threads?
>>98870968titty reporting for duty
>>98871627Unironically it would make sense for Inwiggers to be Eskimo...unless Dorn's seed changed them like Sanguinius' changes Baalites.Then again, in Black book art Dorm does look tan and wrinkly.
>>98871675small alone, bigger together
Maybe gimmicks other than Seize / Finisher would have a place if regular unprimed sergeants could issue challenges, especially against other basic sergeants.Flurry of Hits' D1 limitation is far less noticeable among W1 duelists. It's as if it had been made with Charnabal sabres in mind.
>>98871675Why did your mother keep you?
>>98871621>imagine fearing a hippy so bad you imagine it taking five hollow points to take him down>imagine fearing a hippy so bad you have to shoot him in the back>imagine missing 20% of your shots at 10 feet
>>98871720>0.0020348383928191 wounds erm akshually none of these dice are worth rolling i hope your mind palace burns to the ground with you locked inside
>>98871675I agree.
>>98871728Why did yours?
>>98871627>There are no polar bears on Inwit.
Has Kol been scanned yet? Haven't seen any gofile links for it in any previous threads
>>98871863Because that's the normal thing to do? Same as keeping titanicus or ligma, this is the general for anything hh related. I guess keeping one's offsprings around is not normal where you are from.
anyone got the primaris part user memes?
>>98871728Mine at least raised a polite person, something that yours did not managed to do. I'm sorry for you
>>98871948Showing real politeness here.
>>98871925I'm not the one who made the comment about offspring first, I merely retorted
>>98871948Based.
>>98871992Anon, HH and titanicus are the offsprings of the wider 30k setting.
>>98871627Polux. Power Fist and Storm Shield is a baller combo.
>>98871992>I am merely retardedWe know. Both are niche games that aren't nearly as popular as 40K or AoS. It's only sensible to keep GW threads as consolidated as possible.
>>98872098I still wonder why you never see just a double power fist combo, kind of like how some guys just take one lightning claw OR two. Why not have marines that go full on power-fisticuffs?
>>98872202>inb4 TS double-fister appearsThere are things with two fists, like Aggressors and Calgar. For the most part, two fists have had diminishing returns. Twice the price of a single fist for one more attack isn't THAT great. Sometimes you got an extra attack from just having a pistol or another CCW. Other times a lightning claw was a cheaper option and let you choose between a strong fist or fast claw strikes. Claws are mostly taken in pairs because most of the time they've available as a paired option.
>>98872202They don't really make sense outside of things like ursarax.
>>98871720>It's as if it had been made with Charnabal sabres in mind.Lightning claws?
>>98871720>Maybe gimmicks other than Seize / Finisher would have a placeThey do, their place is "situational use". Grandstand is (potentially) the strongest offensive buff out of any gambit, but relies on enormous outside support (and therefore costs a lot of initiative buff to use). Guard up is invaluable as a survival tool, parry is useful for shutting down combos, measure(whatever the "automatically get advantage if you survive") is good for getting out of a challenge you dont want to be winning... As well as nearly all of the legion reactions having their own use cases and being worthwhile. You are confusing "seize the initiative and finishing blow are the most generically good" with "they are therefore the only gambits you take"
How does this look vs custodes? >HCJump praetor, headsmans axe, shotgun>CSIege breaker (paragon of battle)Jump librarian, axe, telekinesis>troops2x tactical squad, vox. 1x logistical benefit (fast attack>fast attack5 raptors with thunder hammers, 1 flamer>transports2x rhino with havoc launcher and dozer blade>armor2x predator, conversion beamer, lascannonsKratos, melta cannon, 4x lascannons, decurion, HK>support2x 3 man laser destroyer rapier squads>elites2x 10 man seeker squad, vox1x vet breacher squad, 4x lascutters, 6x power axes(allied detachment)Fatewaver cohort1x navigator (combat veteran)1x solar aux squad
>>98871720>unprimedHere I am thinking grey tide unpainted. Also duel system sucks anyway. Waste of time for something adds more rng.
>>98872098I thought stormshields were invented after the heresy?
>>98871829ICE wouldn't bat an eye today
>>98872518fuck no, stormshields have been there since black book 2
>>98871720There's more nuance to challenges that only gets explored when both players are into it. Guard Up, when you remember that missed attacks add to your initiative score next round, is not bad. Flurry of Blows becomes better when you're fighting someone who is already wounded. If the players don't care about it though of course they're just gonna take the pokemon-tier bonuses.
>>98871720>he doesn't take Every Strike Foreseen
>>98872667the issue is that finishing blow is so damn good as an opener when you're running a TH etc as you're slow as shit already and just intend to tank the hits
>>98872502Your plan against the melee army is...To have low scoring and trying to out-melee them ? You don't even have a tactical for the home objective.
>>98873149>You don't even have a tacticalI do? Theres two units there (I normally bring three, but I figured the SA goons can fill in some, especially with convocators for the situational +1 line where I need it). I could drop the librarian for a MoS, but with no deep strike im not sure thats worth it. >trying to out melee themThe plan is to primarily shoot them (with things like seekers and laser destroyers, conversion beamer predators also sound promising with that D3 Ap2 mode), although there is SOME melee potential in the army because entirely foregoing it seems overly risky. Vet breachers are actually reasonably fine against (basic) custodes (lascutters dont care about eternal warrior) and raptors can do good damage if I get a status off on a unit.
>>98871840Funnily, ever since Inception (2010) I learned lucid dreaming, and after Dr Sleep (2019) I learned imprisonment.My mental palace is indeed a prison. As for it burning down, the purge mechanism is already venting a star into it.
>>98872667>>98873126True. If the other guy is already taking Finisher, which multiplies DMG output by 1.5 or 2x, then the other guy might as well try Grandstand or Guard or something.Seize would be pointless, as they'd already go first
>>98873720Thats the thing I think people forget with talking about "oh theres a couple "clearly the best" gambits", thats the point. You need these strong gambits to give a first mover advantage to the challenger/the person with challenge advantage, theyre a thing to fight over as much as anything else. And their presence contextualizes everything else, often as a response to "so what do you do if the other guy has one of the strong options".
>>98873720>Seize would be pointless, as they'd already go firstUnless they have say a paragon blade going up against a thunder hammer or fist, where suddenly you can finishing blow and still possibly go first.
>>98873802I think the flow diagram after the other guy chooses Finisher is to minimize the damage advantage he's going to get.However I think Guard Up is severely hurt by the fact that, against an WS5 attacker, you can get +3WS and they keep hitting a WS6 target on a 5+.So you trade all but one of your attacks for something with severely diminishing returns. -33% incoming enemy DMG at best, at the expense of -75%—80% of your own damage.Test the Foe (fight normally but auto gain advantage of you survive) might be better.
I want to try a sicaran venator, but I dont like the way the normal model looks. Thoughts on converting a sicaran turret to "counts as venator"? Give it some sort of big laser cannon and use it as a proxy. I just dont like the centerline aesthetic very much, it does not fit a battle tank.
>>98874047Theres definetly times you dont want to pick guard up defensively, but the way it sets you up to succeed next round cant be ignored imo.Its also the best (only even) properly defensive option you have a lot of the time, and it giving +1WS also helps with damage somewhat. You take it, almost certainly survive the round, maybe do some chip damage in vs the other guy. Next round you can play greedier/more aggressively using the cushion of focus you gained from the last round. Big success and good times for all. >test the foe might be betterIf you think you will survive the round and really want out of the fight? Sure. But it doesent help if youre worried someone took finishing blow and is about to concave your face.
>>98874068>maybe do some chip damage in vs the other guyBig maybe, as it is one single WS+1 attack.But yeah now that I think of it, now everyone can choose to simply tank a Finisher hammer (mwahaha). Ain't so shrimple after all
>>98874182>Big maybe, as it is one single WS+1 attack.True, not guaranteed by any means. But WS+1 also improves your odds of hitting decently well in a lot of cases (either going from 5s to 4s - 50% better chance to hit - or from 4s to 3s - 33% better chance to hit - inversely proportional to how much it does for defense really)Inb4 we get a dedicated breacher consul who can take a lascutter, and they just always take guard up to be effective WS+1 the entire time.
>>98874068You can use Guard Up offensivly too, to get one advantageous attack and bonuses to your focus roll for next round. There's no guarantee you won't get killed sure, but they are called gambits.
>>98872502Why power axes on the breachers?
>>98874301Swung from above amid the shield press, surely an axe blade can strike an enemy covering behind the shield wall
>>98870975I really like the way urban titan combat on Cath is described in Honour The Dead. Missiles destroying apartment buildings, mega-bolter fire chewing up walls, entire housing blocks vaporised by a Warlord's reactor overloading.10/10 breddy good short story especially the Warmonger titan at the end.
>>98874347>Unfortunately this apartment building is out of flares
>>98874301I like how they look. Lightning claws are probs just better.
>>98874405I think melee breachers are cool too, guess they just struggle against 3 attack dedicated melee units
>>98874603>Vet Breachers vs shielded Vet Assault / Vet Despoilers, same weapons (PW)Bolt pistol + volley bolt pistol + 2A on 5++ target == 3A no Pistol on 5++ target>Vet Breachers vs Vet Assault / Vet Despoilers, same weapons (PW), no shields2A on unshielded target == 3A on 5++ targetThey seem equal on a void, so I guess the devil will be in the details, back and forth. All in all, close enough
Remind me what your units gain on a successful charge when they have no Impact rule and they aren't EC/BA/WE?
>>98874731volley attacks
>>98874731the privilege of being able to engage in glorious melee combat
>>98874896>>98874898Don't they also get that when they are charged themselves? In fact, not charging always gets you volleys, while charging wrong (disordered) doesn't.
Does anyone know if the tortuga bay shoulder pads are in scale with the current and older marines or are they larger?
>>98872098Polux is a real one
>>98875040I've never gotten their shoulder pads, but the backpacks seem to be close enough.
>>98874937yea if you make a disordered charge you don't get fun stuff like volleys or set-up>>98874731a successful charge is a charge that connects, a disordered charge is a charge that connects but doesn't give you the fun timesbut also you get to do things like invoke Cybertheurgic Rites, cast Biomantic Rage, because they aren't Special Rules so it doesn't matter if your charge is disordered or notfor special rules, Templars get better set-ups, i'm sure there's others i'm not gonna check every unit entry for youbut still yeah volley attacks, particularly if you already slapped a status on the other unit in the shooting phaseit's free real estate
>>98875046>>98872098https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agUaHwxcXHY
>>98875085Thanks anon, appreciate it
I'm amusing myself statting ships based on the vague mentions in the Black Books like a ship based on the mentioned "lance cruiser" designation. I'm genuinely drawn to having it mount a single massively powerful and upgunned lance battery on the prow but no other weapons except for AAA turrets. Idk I've always been disappointed that the setting especially the Heresy doesn't have a LOGHmaxxing ship with frontal beams for days.
>>98875178Nay. What I like the most about 40k (and Dune) is that protective technologies have made close combat viable again.Ships ought to survive being sniped at relativistic distances, so they can engage in much cooler broadside cannonades, ramming, and boarding actions. Power swashbuckling.
>>98875040The shoulder pads are same size as the old manlet space marine range, at least the mk4-7 ones.
This is a bit of a stretch, but does anyone have a size comparison between the old and new Cataphractii power fists?I remember that being a point of contention.
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>>98875178>>98875298Battlefleet gothic might get released and made exclusive to the HH setting. I do wonder how "feasible" it is for the Battlefleets in Warhammer 30k+40k to conduct combat like in LOGH with formations instead of big dogfights with broadside firing and combat.Obviously it might be a bit weird as those ships if I remember correctly were not designed with formation space combat in mind but meant to be Napoleonic era navy ship combat but in space. But I can see GW looking at LoGH and making some ships designed with LoGH space combat in mind. I wouldn't mind this time.I remember seeing an anon who painted his Legions Solar Auxilia models as the LoGH Rosenritter. Could also pass for pre-chaos Luna Wolves too, but it seems odd that LoGH sporadically gets mentioned here from time to time. Is there some kind of reason for this?
>>98875567>98875298 I meant to reply to >>98875217 Sorry I'm tired.Those shoulderpad sizes are gonna change at some point. If that happens the best that can be done is that they get reused for Blackshield marines or legion specific companies of space marines in scavenged/salvaged/jury rigged power armor.
>>98875548OG Lightning fighter coded, fucking love it.
>>98875217>Ships ought to survive being sniped at relativistic distances, so they can engage in much cooler broadside cannonades, ramming, and boarding actions. Power swashbuckling.yes. Although despite what some NERDS like physicists might tell you lance weapons aren't all that much longer range that macro-cannons in BFG and since cruisers and above have limited turning ability and need to keep moving an ALL PROW lance cruiser wouldn't be picking people off from across the map it would be closing on enemy ships while trying to maneuver so its always facing prow on all using other ships as cover while it reposition. I think I probably should give it some secondary armaments. Maybe low power broadside lances from an LC and port/starboard torpedo tubes. Logically the best followup armament to a massive prow lance that encourges you to charge right in would be torpedo tubes loaded with boarding torpedoes. >>98875567>LoGH sporadically gets mentioned here from time to time. Is there some kind of reason for this?Real recognizes real and I imagine there's more than a little crossover in fandoms.
does anyone have the PDF of Journal Tactica: The Battle for The Signus Cluster – Assault on Kol
>>98875567Both are space opera settings.
>>98875178Iirc there was the ship that killed the agathon dude's nephew except other than lances it was torpedoes. A huge barrel shaped ship that opened up and revealed rows upon rows of torpedoes.
