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>>98881812>On page 5>Did not put the fresh OC in OP
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Saint Slayer... Bit More Effort... Psychosoma... Luminary... OR... Luminary...
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>>98881812>gotta make a new thread while the old one is still at 30% of its lifespanyou shitposters are so tiresome
https://imgchest.com/p/na7konjjwy8Next verse, same as the first>Experiment 1: Talent DiscountMaking a builds where your talent rating in one aura type provides a discount. This is to make basic techniques cheap, master techniques slightly less ecpensive, and leave legend techniques largely the same.Compare your "G" rating to the rating required for a technique, if you G rating is higher it subtracts it's value from the point cost.Example:Seismic Strike costs 6 points to buy.Your build has G3 in Core.Seismic Strike only requires G1.Seismic Strike now only costs 3 points for you.>Experiment 2: Aura Burst ModeKufoku mentions you'll be able to Double your points after completing an Aura Burst campaign, so why not make builds for that?Make a standard build for your freshly summoned conscript, then making Another build for your conscript after completing all their campaign missions.The second build gets build and equipment points equal to their starting "Potential"(45 for talented, 35 for mutated, etc). They get no bonus alterations.Given how the "Prodigy" alteration works,, double these bonus points points for your second build, but equipment points are not doubled>Experiment #3The Aura costs of techniques is reduced by taking Training. Each training reduces a specific category of techniqued by 1 star at initiate, 2 stars at master, and 3 stars at legend.The category of Techniques a Training effects are specific.Skill Training can reduce aura cost for a techniques below 1, but doesn't make a technique free. Techniques with on aura cost below 1 have a cost from 0.75 to 0.25 of one star
>>98881945If you have both abiding flesh and fibe immortalities of wukong, doesn't that mean the only time you'd need to brearh is mid-battle or mid-crisis, the one time being vulnerable to suffocation or inhaled poisons is the most dangerous?
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>>98881959>the one time being vulnerable to suffocation or inhaled poisons is the most dangerous?Just hold your breath anon. It's not hard.
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Which is your favorite nonsexual cyoa to imagine sexual situations happening within? If I had to narrow one down, it would have to be JRPG Traitor.
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>>98882026Spirit conscript. The amount of horny powers, the fact it's on the edge of being a hentai setting with the gender ratio plus reverse sexual morality, and finally the wide selection of companion waifus make it an endless inspiration for sexual situations.It's the kind of setting you'd see something like Rosario+Vampire or To Love-Ru Darkness type ecchi events happening.
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>>98882056>reverse sexual moralitysource
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>>98881835Does the strength boost from feral tier 2 apply specifically when you are tangible or does it also work when possessing shit?
>>98882056>Rosario+Vampire or To Love-Ru DarknessDamn, you reminded me how far modern harem anime have fallen compared to their roots. Ecchi Harems used to focus on actual story and worldbuilding, with the ecchi harem comedy acting as a reason to get people foot in the door until the plot locks them in. Maho Negi Nejimaki is another great example.
>>98882060Blue Demon Clan and Succubi.You WILL be hunted down by horny demon women that want to rape you. Men logically Have to be the protected/chased sex just to keep non-demon numbers from going extinct.
>>98882074>Maho Negi NejimakiMahou SENSEI Negima anon. You failed your memory check.
>>98882056Nta. But because of all that stuff you listed I personally don't think it counts. It's not straight up NSFW but it's too sexually charged to consider it non sexual. It's like softcore porn, and it's clearly on purpouse.
>>98881961>>98881966>>98881971>>98881976Does anyone else get kinda pissed off that kubo set up ichigo as a harem protagonist in the beginning of the series, only to chicken out by the aizen arc?
>>98882093You're splitting hair there anon. JRPG Traitor has it's fair share of horny, even if it's less than SC.
>>98882079That's just 1 clan and a species classified as a pest. There are incubi too by the way, not just succubi.
>>98882096Kubo was never good at following through with most of his stuff. You can see the blatent rewrites of renji, the royal gaurd, menos, etc throughout the series.
>>98882115Anon, the incubi don't matter. Succubi multiple like roaches by producing more succubi. Incubi can only produce Yokai. Incubi nest are almost non-existent while succubi nests are as common as ant infestations.
>>98882079that's not sexual morality, that's just a bunch of rapists, you don't see actual sexual morality inversion like the boys staying in the kitchen and tending to the kids
>>98882106Yea, but it's in the background, you need to pay attention and get creative to interact with it. SC just shoves it in your face. All anime style stuff is a bit horny, it's par for the course, but not all of it is softcore porn like SC.
>>98882115>That's just 1 clan and a species classified as a pestYeah, it's the most populous and influentisl demon clan in the world and the most common spirit pest in the world. Between the two of those alone, the culture of youdo would be radically different from earths just by their mere existance.That's not even getting into the scewed hender ratio making the effect orders of magnitude more pronounced.
>>98882115Anon, do you think someone who "logically inferred" reverse sexual morality would care?
>>98881852Take another spoonful of SC, young one.
>>98881849Suffering as I would like Dreambreaking, but really can't get it, even with the new points to update my build.
>>98882093>It's like softcore porn>>98882151>softcore porn like SCYou're really overselling it anon. It's not shoved in your face That hard. There are 2 alterations and 1 sorcery power that are blatent porn fuel, but the rest of cyoa is mostly focused on autistic power wank.
>>98881852Exalted Conquest?
Daily reminder that universal sovereigns die to a succubus swarm
>>98882201That succs
>>98882079>Blue Demon ClanIt's not just the blue demon clan. All the demon clans do it according to the loredoc and Yokai are the most common race in Youdo.
>try reading spirit conscript>gets bored during the power section>jumps to the quests/companion sectionsAnyone else had this experience?
>>98882213I will admit I speedread some parts, then I go back when I have specific doubts, or I'm in the mood.I read it all before finishing my build tho.
>>98882213>gets bored during the power sectionNo way, that's the best part.
This shit is so disappointing
>>98882172It updated?
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>>98882255>>98880526Were you not following the thread?
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>>98882208>be human living in the slums>have bro that does kung fu>he's /fit/, a hard worker, and all around great guy>stands up to local thugs trying to shakedown a noodle stand>gets a reputation as tough>one day he disappears without a warning>it isn't like him to ghost everyone like that>like to pretend he found a chance to escape>know there's a 99% chance he's pactbound in some six-fingered mafia brothel's basementTerrifying.
>>98882096Why would I be pissed off? Its just means more waifus for my self-insert. Ichigo can keep Orihime, she's boring anyway. The only thing that pisses me off is him pairing Rukia with that loser cuck Renji.
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>>98882268>Ghost everyone:)
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>>98882261When i went to check /cyoag/ this one was the one that was up so i went here.
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>>98882286Oh, well this is the update to a cyoa that released yesterday
>Last time Italics talked about Echoes as a major release was right before Magi Case in 2023>It is now the Year 2026Are we going to make it bros?
>>98882289Thank you for adding my shitty evil build anon
>>98882290oh yay
>>98882026>Which is your favorite nonsexual cyoa to imagine sexual situations happening within? At the top of my head, Dream Prince. Outer Reincarnation. Desert Lotus. Scenic Route. For some reason these ones really get my love feelers going.
>>98882166nooooooo plz no more...
>>98882106>>98882151I have the perfect example here for this. There are 2 harem mangas that are essentially the same, with the only difference being that one is sofcore porn.Medaka Kuroiwa Is Impervious to My Charms, is about a gyaru like girl used to always being the center of attention and getting everything she wants, who falls in love with the one guy who shows no reaction to her. It's ecchi, but that's it, at least until the 130 chapters, maybe the actually have sex off screen by chapter 200 or something, but it's very slow.The other is Gal NIpa wants to be hit on, almost the same exact plot, gyaru like girl used to being the center of attention falls for the one guy who ignores her, but they start doing sexual stuff by chapter like 5.SC is the second one, JRPG traitor would be the first one. In one the ecchi happens as a side, as comedic relief, and filler. In the other it's part of the main action.
>>98882292t-trust the... *wheeze* the p-plan...
>>98882026Entropist
>>98882026Every cyoa with mind control in it. All of them
>>98882357>Entire section devoted to godlike gynoids meant to breed entire armies.>nonsexual.Anon....
>>98881861>ghostly powers are disabled in this formThis begs many questions. To what extent? Explicitly things from the powers section, or body effects too? If I'm a necromancer will all my minions cease functioning while in Lifelie form? Do I lose my curse targets or just the ability to sense and inflict them? Is anchoring weakened?
>>98882376Yes?
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>>98882376>having wives is sexualI think the og anon asked about not nsfw cyoas whose plot was not about anything sexual. In entropist, the main plot is getting souls not breeding
>>98882173>There are 2 alterations and 1 sorcery power that are blatent porn fuel, but the rest of cyoa is mostly focused on autistic power wank.Anon, are you blind? Did you even read it? There are like 6 alterations, maybe more that are just fetish fuel, and a big part of Alchemy is also just fetisg fuel. Did you see the body sigils? Plus a handful of other scattered techniques, like naked warlord armor. And look at the companion section, every single one is some kind of fetish bait.
>>98881835This cyoa is still badly balanced. It need at least 18 points, 21 to be comfy.
>>98882421Bro what are you doing that you need 21
I haven't been here since 2024 PLEASE are we aliveis magi case redux
>>98882435He's trying to declare himself God Emperor of Cuba, now known as Anonland.
>>98882438No magi case redux. Go back to bed
>>98882438Why do people want Magi Case Redux? All Italics said he was going to do is add a bunch of filler items, backstory and character options, a bunch of new characters, quests and shitty familiars.He's not going to change the magic system to something where you have spells or something where you can use every type of magic like a true mage in urban fantasy.We have other better magic urban fantasies too: Call of the Midnight World, Fate / Another Pretender, Urban Phantom, Blood Magic, Demon Eyes, etc
>>98882545>why do people like something i don't like!!!!stop.
Magic meaning literally all types of magic has always been a little bit bullshit, hasn't it?No study of anything in this world results in a "Do anything instantly" phenomenon like magicMagicians being able to summon materials and fight and scry great unknowns simultaneously with no greater expenditure of time and effort then a mill worker is bullshitMagic should be more confusing and varied. There shouldn't be general magic
>>98882438never everitalics' skeleton has been freed from its flesh prison and now runs free being spoopy and scary
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>>98882586Rude.I am a different person, posting different meaningless bullshit. And I'm white. And male. And non jewish. And I play cyoas
Screw magic, GONNE is the real magic.
>>98882574>>98882607Apply logic to magic at your own peril. You will be called brown.
>>98882625Guns are magic. Alchemists made gunpowder. Nerds in smithies made guns. Grenades are magic missiles.
>>98882665I'm not talking about logic, I'm talking about balenceThe whole thing is non-sensical. Why would anyone do anything other then magic if magic does everything?
>>98882670>Grenades are magic missilesWrong. A bomb drone is a magic missile as they cannot really miss.
>>98882696Grenades are... fireballs?
>>98882699Yeah
>>98881835I wanna finish my build but my mind is blurry ughhhhhhh
>>98882289The fact that I'm pretty sure this came out before softie got called softie and his build (Belas in lily bearers) got called soft is killing my sides.
>>98882696>magic missiles aren’t meant to missCaster fag alert
>>98881835Update of >>98878220~ Administrative ghost ~Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQrXrJoooWI [Embed]BODY -- [Mimic 3], [Unknowable 2]ECTOPLASM -- [Violet]POWERS -- [Vitality 3], [Willwell 3], [Anchoring 3], [Flight 1], [Possession 3], [Technokinesis 1]HYBRID POTENTIAL -- [Hybrid Body]SIGNATURE POWER -- [Anchorless]ANCHOR -- NoneBANE WEAKNESS -- [Water]BANE IMMUNITY -- [Barriers]FAVORS -- [Kill an Exorcist], [Ghostbusting], [It Ain't Me]---Concept:I use [Possession 3] to possess important people (eg political and business leaders). I also possess randos to move around between the real targets.[Mimic 3] gives me the memories of the possessed person so I can act the role.[Willwell 3] allows me to possess the important people indefinitely.[Anchorless] and [Flight 1] is used to reach the world leaders.[Technokinesis 1] prevents computer malfunctions from ghost energy.At some point exorcists are sure to figure me out. If I can't stimy them I'll kill the host, framing the exorcists, and escape safely with my [Vitality 3].When I'm done with one host, I move to the next. [Unknowable 2] prevents the exorcists or other world leaders from catching on that it's always me controlling the world leaders.[Kill an Exorcist]: I declare him a terrorist. The police hunts him down. No direct involvement from me past that.[Ghostbusting]: With [Vitality 3] it should go fine.[It Ain't Me]: I can coordinate with foreign militaries, sure.Goal:I use the authority of important possessed people to wipe out AI development in PRC to lower extinction risk from further development. If the US manages to arrange a pause after the competition is removed it's ok, if not I repeat the same in the US.After that, maybe remove NK's and Pakistan's nukes.
>>98882026Conduit, absolutely definitely Conduit, you don't even need the sex dimension if you're halfway creative. Conduit is the best TF CYOA.
>>98882806The Rim is the designated sex dimension (if we disqualify the later coomer additions). Rim elf are LITERALLY built for breeding.
>>98882753Have you tried meditation?Just sit a focus on your brain, physically, and try to untense all of it. It takes 30 min or so but it feels really good
>>98879494What are the least bad here for both Whisper Of Ages/Accused Wretch?
>>98882753Fap and finish your build during post-nut clarity
>>98882931You mean curses/banes? Stuff like Rare Taste or Consent is pretty free, depending on the build. Omninous, The Cold, Righteous, Distort, these are also pretty manageable. Stuff like Deep Torpor is also good, but there is another bonus that gives you that for more hooks so you may want to save it for that.
>>98882753Go to sleep dude, it's not healthy to do back-to-back allnighters.
>>98882806>>98882887For me, it's got to be ____Void____
>>98882026The Superpowers, because I'm the Supreme Biomancer
>>98882026Ultimate god. It's fun to imagine forcing puny mortals to act out various fetishes.
Conquest status?
>>98883270The same as it was yesterday and the day beforeProbably never, maybe spring 2027
Magi case redux status?
>>98883281*splurt*
>>98883281Lula won. It's over for favelalics.
>>98882026How do you sexualize JRPG Traitor? I'm too busy wallowing in the angst when I play it.
>>98883385Grooming?I don't remember but I think the answer is probably grooming
>>98883385Make your build while horny and you'll understand
>>98882292I always wanted to know what was the source material for the picture used for 'The Echelon' areaI thought it looked beautiful, and even saved it as my screen background for a while
>>98883281Work in Progress>>98883460>I always wanted to know what was the source material for the picture used for 'The Echelon' areaIf you are talking about the original one from the original CYOA? I pulled it from the boorus with the artist being Yume32ki.
>>98883492Italics can you give me any numbers so I can think about them while bored?Or show a thing you haven't shown before?
>>98882996>Rare Taste or Consent is pretty freeHow's that? Isn't Consent forcing you to break the Masquerade?
>>98883551What are you looking to know about? And about what thing?
>>98883613Well I wouldn't particularly know what things italics has written but not released but I would assume there are companions and powers, and hearing about some of the unbegotten would be niceI thinkI supposeIt's been so long since I read magi case
it would still be unnecessary to make a new thread right now btw
>>98883588Blood Dolls are a thing, as are humans in the know who go to specific places to act as blood bags. You even get a whole section about them in the cyoa with how they react to being asked about being a Doll, a Ghoul or Embraced.
>>98883191Biokinetic you sick fuck
>>98883641new thread time?
>>98883588>>98883644Also, I'm pretty sure you can just ask them and erase the memory later. And technically that one seduction power also counts as willingly I think. Anyway, you don't have to break the masquerade just because of that.
>>98883658He's talking about the premature creation of this thread that we are currently in
>>98883677but it's time for a new thread?
>>98883685>>98883685No anon, no bread for nowThe hogs are to be civil and restrained for the time being
>>98883634Oh it's about Redux? Well there are tons of new content in the CYOA in the form of background options about your character's life during/leading up to becoming an Investigator/and after. On the topic of companions there are several new ones offering new adventures for you to go on.Prisca from the Yggdrasil Clan makes a formal appearance. She is the Alpha Magus of the mage confederacy government, the Archmagus, and an Equalist leader. The Equalist faction mentioned in a page in the previous vers. appears in a more prominent role in Redux. Her overarching goal is to establish Universal Magic as the main operating system of all mages to break the formation of Clans/Mages being bloodline limited in their craft though this comes with its own problems. Ostane Clan has a Tullius Hashemi, father of modern Homunculi studies, and general weird man that made himself spare bodies (and an actual groomer). He was the one helping to set-up homunculi factories to give muggles their "loved" ones back in temporary experiences but is working on making a successor species to mages for the love of the game and generally fucking with life.Bathory introduces multiple immortals (True Vampires) such as Scarlett Germain (Mircea's granddaughter) and all their general fuckery as they embody different types of "Blood" that blood magic can encompass/drink and Mircea wanting to slay them all while the Immortals want to have a bloody festival with the Vampire slayers under Mircea. You also get introduced to Scarlett's progeny/vampire self-rape daughteru Rubin. Scarlett more less found out how to become the ultimate Vampire through cellular assimilation, she is meme'ing herself on to other people's blood and can convert their body's cells into hers and give them the instinct to unite enough to "resurrect" her. Rubin is a perfect victim.Redux has a lot more content.
>>98883749Thank you dearly italics. It sounds like it will be alot of fun when/if it releases>making a successor species to mages for the love of the gameThis guy sounds based
>>98883749>Redux has a lot more content.But none of it is better. SInce the base is shit it doesn't matter how much you add on top, it will always be shit unless the base is changed.
>>98883749>it's realY E S!>>98883774End your life faggot
>>98883784No. Unlike you I have taste, and a life worth living.
>>98882996>OmninousOminous makes it pretty difficult to use Presence or non-intimidating persuasion though
>>98883769>This guy sounds based.I mean if you want to do Homunculus experiments sure, but he's mostly the Epstein of the clan (He does own a private island, several as that is where Ramon father/friends got their private place at for their failed secession experiment.) that gets a lot of flak for his odd behavior. He was molding his childhood friend into his perfect woman at a young age and later groomed his niece, got away with both, and doesn't understand why others are upset. He also figured out how to transfer consciousness using Alchemy into a new body, so there is that so he ended up abandoning his original bulky/bearded body for a woman's... specifically modeled after the Auctor's. Overall a high-genius in Alchemy, but he has emotional detachment, moral depravity, and transactional view of relationships (maybe autsim?). He was the one who really got human-looking Homunculi slavery trending going too.
>>98881973Please understand, anon is a G0 Corelet
>>98882803What is Xi doing to Xi
>>98881945Best powers to put on a spirit acolyte (after Lifegiving Immolation Blessing)?
>>98883815Yes, which is why I put it under manageable, not perfect. With the right build it's free, but it does require a bit more consideration than Rare Taste and Consent, especially tier 2. Presence and persuasion are not mandatory parts of a build, you can do very well without them, especially since you can have access to easy blood.
>>98883821Hmm, ok sounds like a better target for slavery then friendship but he would be a good slave to have
>>98883749Cosmic magic
>>98883774The base of redux did get changed up quite a lot for you to choose how your adventure is going to go. Over 40 impact events to determine critical things in your life and unlock new power-ups or narrative choices. You can pick where you live/operate out of, what is your personal view on magic and dealing with it, there are drawback options for you to increase taking more options from other categories, multiple narrative options to choose your role in your Magi Family and you can become kin to some of the existing companion characters thanks to options.Skill have been separated into: Personal (Personally Loved) and Educational (Bureau Trained) with their own unique pool and numbers. Equipment has been broken down into categories: Weapon, Bureau, Personal, and Holy Relic of Magic.Bureau is stuff the Bureau provides while Personal are various magical items (30+) you acquired on your own with their own unique abilities and effects because they were crafted by the Clans. You got Familiar companions as a new addition. The quest system for the CYOA been changed and expanded on taking quests from being hidden in profiles to something to read and do. Redux is a chunky update that expands on all the original content present in the CYOA.>>98883860The Galileo Clan features two new Outer Ones, the Portraiture of Hanged Fingers [/spoiler] and Garden of Dead Roses and their antics on earth to be sympathetic to humanity/offer their knowledge along with the Archmagus who learned to transcend his mere flesh/existence to a higher stage of being... or has he?
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>>98881945Phase Legebdary status is kinda bad. It just gives you invulnerable as long as you have mana but based on mirror world inversion, it's 5 pip per phase into the mirror world. You can easily get mana drained to death by multi hit. Just take mirror world inversion and/or the oscilliation and phase yourself. Its not like anyone can outspeed the speedster anyway
>>98884052>t. reading comprehension curse
>>98884055Explain. It literally said so. Passive effect obviously doesnt count
>>98884059It's a flat 10 devotion to phase as often as you want. You only have to end it if you would've gotten entirely destroyed.
>>98884066I take it as>you get hit>part slips into mirror world>your body part slipped into the mirror world and doesn't come back until the devotion effect ends, but separated part works as usualAs this part> leaving gashes of thin air where blades would cut them and floating limbs where explosions of energy impact themSays it leaves those parts empty and floating limbs.The best part is the ultra instict, the deovtion effect is a worse kamui
>>98884119>>you get hit>>part slips into mirror world>>your body part slipped into the mirror world and doesn't come back until the devotion effect ends, but separated part works as usualNTA but this is correct so what the fuck are you being a retard about?
>>98884066Read it again anon. The missing pieces don't come back without A. Ending the devotion or B. Having another technique like Flicker Frame that will auto-flicker them back.Phase is the affinity you screw yourself the most by not having basic and great techniques comboed with your legendaries.Eon Convulsion is both overpriced and borderling useless on it's own, but if properly comboed with Oscilating Motion, Fluctuation, and Battle Flow, it becomes overpowered as fuck as those 3 together let you extend 1 second of real time into as many second of perceived time as you want.Similarly, Waning Lunar Eon' devotion effect is complete garbage on it's own, but becomes overpowered if you have Flicker Frame and Mirror World Inversion. Those together let body parts momentarily flicker in and out of the mirror world instead of staying there And lets you continue to affect the real world from both the real and mirror worlds.
>>98884052First of all, that's not all it does, it also makes you a lot faster than any other technique, and more importantly it makes ALL your techniques automatic and reactive. Not just Lunar Eon itself, ALL of them. Have a conduction? It now stops attacs by itself. It's a slightly worse Animate Nexus but works on everything instead of just Flow.Also, you don't spend aura per hit, it's a devotion. You devote, then when you get hit specifically that small part of you goes into the mirror world, and that part of you stays ther until you stop devoting. No additional costs. If you get fully destroyed you go fully into the mirror world and have to stop devoting if you want to come back, but if something did that to you I think getting back into the fight is the least of your priorities.And since it makes things automatic you don't actually have to have it active, as long as you keep at least 10 aura spare, which you should anyway, it activates by itself.>Its not like anyone can outspeed the speedster anywayYes they can. Several other techs also boost speed, among Flow for one. So they very much can outspeed the speedster if you give up on the best speed upgrade in the cyoa.
>he doesn't know about the hidden /cyoag/ litheh,,,,
>>98884124I was also nta. Just giving my two cents because I know people treat it like kamui where the bodypart comes back so its only problem is 1 single hit covering the body
does anybody actually like companion sections or are they just joking
>>98884125>Phase is the affinity you screw yourself the most by not having basic and great techniques comboed with your legendaries.So Phase, the affinity that gets stronger with autism, requires autistic combo management before any of the powers work correctly?IDK if that was on purpose, but Bravo PCA, Bravo.
>>98884133Companion sections are good as long as they are only made of waifus. Otherwise they are a waste of time and often don't even get read.
>>98884133Anons like WAIFU sections. Male companions will rarely if every get any attention unless you somehow give anons a reason to care.
>>98884141Riku... my beloved femboy
>>98884125>Phase is the affinity you screw yourself the most by not having basic and great techniques comboed with your legendaries...Are there any other powers like that
>>98884141>unless you somehow give anons a reason to care.I have yet to see anyone do that. They tried, but no reason could ever make me care about a male companion. OR got close, I will admit, but those are not companions, they are a gene bank.
>>98884148Nta but Flow is the real one that's the worst. Phase works well as a speedster even without the mirror world bullshit, you don't actually need all that shit if you wanna go fast.Flow on the other hand needs all the little Special Series and other Series of techs to work properly. And all the states, and other stuff that's supposed to combo.
>>98883749>don quixotealways strange seeing characters from established ips show up in cyoas
>>98883749>all these literally who clansWhat happens to Ford Clan? Do they win?
>>98884125>Those together let body parts momentarily flicker in and out of the mirror world instead of staying there And lets you continue to affect the real world from both the real and mirror worlds.I don't think Fliker Frame does that. Mirror World INversion can specifically target stuff, but Flicker is all of you, and since parts of you are already in the mirror world they would instead come back, so Flicker doesn't bring your parts back, it swaps the injured parts with the sane ones.
>>98884148Paradox Point is a nothingburger unless you also have Space Slipping Spine and Thpusand Blade Rain turning your 1 paradox singularity into a teleporting mass of 1024 singularitiesSimilarly, Singularity Spiral is amplifies by Thousand Blade Rain and Master Status Convolusion.Eon Reversal is obviously useless unless you have a Vast Pool and multiple techniques + alterations that boost regen
>>98884178So one moment you are the cut up guy and the next you are a bunch of meat strips in a vaguely human shape.
>>98884161>Flow on the other hand needs all the little Special Series and other Series of techs to work properlyNo it doesn't. All of flows rechniques work individually the same way martial/weapon/improvisation arts do. They CAN be combined for greater effects, but it's not required.For example: if you have special series: entity and not conduction mode, it creates a golem out of random materials from the environment instead.Similarly, you can make constructs and bend the element you produce with a conduction mode like you're a firebender from Avatar(but only stuff you make).People shit on flow waaaaay too much.
>>98884138i should've known
>>98884197>People shit on flow waaaaay too much.It's case Flow players get greedy when they see all the combos and ecponetial multipliers Flow has, but then get frustrated that trying to have Holy Harmonic State, Omnipotent Synchronicity, Conduction Form, 6 Conduction Modes, and 10 Series Techniques is way outside either their points or aura budget.Then they shit on it for not letting them have infinite cosmic power from Character Creation.
>>98884197>Similarly, you can make constructs and bend the element you produce with a conduction mode like you're a firebender from AvatarYes, but you can't do any of the shit the series stuff would do. You can't hover and slide like Motion, You can't fly without Coronet, you can't make piercing shots without Perforation. You can't become your element, you can't heal. All of the really good stuff is locked behind other stuff.And all of it costs way too much aura unless you have EWA.
>>98884184Yes, and then the meat strips start kicking ass because MWR lets you touch things in the real world from Wonderland.
>>98884213>Yes, but you can't do any of the shit the series stuff would do.Yes you can, you're just Much worse at it. Trying to copy Special Series: Movement without the technique is possible, but you have to do it all manually instead of having a technique to all the work.You'd need a few tries to not accidentally rocket-boost yourself into trees and you'll need to constantly pay attention to it to not lose focus and crash.
>>98884213>You can't fly without Coronetyes you can, there's countless emergent ways to do it such as just lifting yourself with your conduction manually, and you have specific techniques that let you do it besides coronet too, like special series motion or encompassing world avatarthe same goes for other stuff, like piercing through things without perforation, which is obviously possible in the same two ways as flight, both manully with conductions suited to it and with other techniques such as tandava scourge that encourage it
>>98884211>Then they shit on it for not letting them have infinite cosmic power from Character Creation.But I WANT infinite cosmic power at character creation! Why show me all these cool powers only to turn around and say I can only have them if I train for another thousand years! It's Frustrating as Hell!
>>98884133Companion sections are difficult because a companion has to both be malleable enough to go along with the builds plan, and distinct enough to actually add to itMost good companions are either plot hooks or drawbacksActually we need more "Companion as drawback" situationsMale companions have to be good to be chosen, where female companions can just be hot. Thus is life
>>98884225>>98884213Movement and coronet suck because EWA is better and every serious conduction build is going to have EWA.
>>98884213>Yes, but you can't do any of the shit the series stuff would do.I think this attitude explains a lot of the complaints about flow. The idea that you NEED a Conduction + a Series + a State in order to do anything of value, when the majority of stuff is designed to stand on it's own.
>>98884245My CYOAs tend to go the opposite direction for some reason, where the companion you pick is the center of the build and the other choices you pick revolve around them. Not sure why this keeps happening.
>>98884249>Movement and coronet suckMovement maybe, but Coronet is a melee conduction monster. It creates an elemental energy feild that multiplies the speed and power of all short-range conductions while also acting as a mobile bubble-shield negating ranged attacks, essentially acting like an extra stack of Reified Champion and/or Conduction Form.If you pair it with Lens, you remove the "Melee" part of that because all your melee attacks are now also ranged attacks.
>>98884251it is a bit perplexing, i think these are the same people who are trying to achieve impermanence
>>98884251>The idea that you NEED a Conduction + a Series + a State in order to do anything of valueI might not "need" it anon, but I Want it.I want it anon.I Want itI Want ItI WANT ITI WAAAAAAANT IIIIIIIITAND I WANT IT NOW!!!!!!!!
>>98884170Ford is getting new companions. You will meet other members of the Clan Security Service including its vice-director under Hund who has her own plans and who believes in the existence of Aliens, she handles the "Special Project" of the clan. You will encounter the leader of their counter-intelligence unit and all the illegal things she does in their magical cyberpunk dystopia.. There is also a scenario for the Ford Clan as everything that Iron has done will come bite him with the return of his past.Other new characters include meeting Telos and Iron's current (biological) now legal daughter who is in a succession conflict against her Great-X-nephew. Meeting members of the lower families who handled the gun running operations the Bureau busted them with along with members of its corporate class.It's basically magical cyberpunk.
>>98884330Are these ancient aryan aliens or the grey ones?And while I'm at it, is there a world beneath the earth?
>>98881861>>98882381Something else I noticed; it says you can stay as a ghost while the human-like state recovers from fatigue, but dying is the only way to revert to ghost form. How does that work?
>>98884342Grey Ones and Lovecraftians>And while I'm at it, is there a world beneath the earth?There is an inner world to earth, it's an anomaly that people sometimes disappear into. Think of it as some thing like a simulation where things that shouldn't exist because of common sense do exist in large numbers and very hard to journey into, but easy to get out of. It's also connected to the Fairyland that Movoir is after.
>>98884281>AND I WANT IT NOW!!!!!!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFDcoX7s6rE
>>98884163>always strange seeing characters from established ips show up in cyoasNew Cutie???
>>98884435im a 2019 newfag and its never stopped being jarring
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>>98883839Possessing. The ghost looks like him because of Mimic (but the only reason I picked Mimic is for the ability to get his memories - there's no Visibility power so the ghost can't actually appear like Xi otherwise).
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>>98881835It counts when you are in your own 'body' only. This includes being tangible, but it would also include with the signature power of Sculpted Possession, if you just make the possessed target similar to you.>>98882421>>98882172Raising it to 15 was honestly just something I forgot to go back and do after I added the Achoring power and a couple others. But I do think 18 would be a bit excessive. I was contemplating a drawbacks section, but with anchors and banes to deal with, and with body archetypes having consequences for picking them, I worried it would be too much downsides.>>98882803I see you added in the hybrid body you wanted, and picking up flight is a nice bonus for getting to your targets easier.>>98882381Pretty well everything is disabled in the humanoid form from Lifelie, including summoned minions or reality altering effects like Dreambreaking. One standout that comes to mind for remaining would be hexes from Cursing. Also, any ectoplasm you've spilled before entering the human form will remain until it would dissolve away naturally. And to that end, your human form does bleed ectoplasm, so you could still produce some more of it. As for what I mean by the human state recovering while you aren't in it, essentially it means that if your human form is tired and weary, you can't just kill it and make a new one that's fully rested. While re-entering your human form would repair any damage, it won't restore any fatigue. However, while your human form is dead, it counts as resting.
>>98885275ask for oc
>>98885328>But I do think 18 would be a bit excessiveYes, sorry if it seemed otherwise but I agree with 15 being enough, my build is pretty complete, and while I would like dreambreaking it's pretty secondary.I'm planning to add to my vacant shrine build that last point in will (so I can return being innocent), hybridising my ectoplasm with teal, as it's extremely useful, and take one point in ectoplasm font.
>>98885328>But I do think 18 would be a bit excessive.It isn't. Just look at all the things you can spend points on, 18 points is less than a third. It's way too little compared to what you can spend them on, and the new options only make it worse. 18 would be balanced, 15 feels misearable. 21 would be even better but at least 18 doesn't feel like the whole thing is pointless. Your other ghost cyoa was much better than this for that reason alone.
>>98881828Image build!I started it when the cyoa first released, but didn't finish.
>>98885328>8 would be a bit excessive.I din't even bother making abuild becaue you have too little points. The update didn't fix it. There are better ghost cyoas around, when this one is so stingy with points I don't see a reason to play it instead of those. Staying human is still better.
>>98885382I felt the other way, I slightly preferred 12 to 15. Giving the player too many picks is imo a much more common error than giving too few picks.
>>98885328>But I do think 18 would be a bit excessiveFor me it's emotional and tonal whiplash. The whole thing looks and feels as if it's supposed to be comfy and fun, but then the points are not and you can't get the basic stuff if you want something fun. It's giving me conflicting information.>I was contemplating a drawbacks section, but with anchors and banes to deal with, and with body archetypes having consequences for picking them, I worried it would be too much downsides.As long as the drawbacks aren't forced on the player it's not too many downsides. The player picks the drawback, they have nobody else to blame but themselves if the end is too negative. But you almost never put drabacks in your cyoas do you? The only one with drawbacks I can remember is Branching Hearts where each girl has her own personal drawback that affects her differently. And I guess the royal revival path C but those are forced on you. Speaking of Branching Hearts, this reminds me that it would be cool to see more cyoas that are expanded versions of those girls. Like the pocket world one. But that's beside the point.
>>98885395Miseryfag.
>>98885354Hmm... Personally I think 15 is a good number 27% of thre choices available 18 would be a bit too much at 1/3. Most of the problems with 12 is that half thr points went for tax options like vitality, will or anchors but with 15 you pretty much get 50% extra points to spend on flavour it's more then enough points to make a specialization give more points and you start getting saminess in builds.
>>98885395Absolutely not. I have never seen a single cyoa that gives too many points. Cyoas are supposed to be fun, and they are supposed to be worth it. If the cyoa gives too few points it's not worth it so it gets ignored. Too many points, if such a thing could even exist, would never do that, the players would still play and like the cyoa with more points instead of less.
>>98885417>tax options like vitalityNta but I wouldn't say vitality is a tax.
>>98885423Of course you can give too many points it's a common pitfall for many interactive you generate so many points you have nothing useful to spend it on.
>>98885417There is still too much tax.>you start getting saminess in builds.Build variety doesn't matter. It's a fake problem. The cyoa's purpouse is not to have build variety, it's to be fun. It doesn't matter if all the builds look the same as long as the players have fun. Forcing people to be different for the sake of variety isn't fun.
>>98885414>The whole thing looks and feels as if it's supposed to be comfy and fun,I mean, I can easily make a comfy build woth the first three powers at 2, anchor at 3 and going to the demon lord castle.
>>98885427Well it's a combination of them you will probably spend around 6 points paying for a mix of anchor, vitality, will or maybe some of the 3 basics from the first row.
>>9888541718 points is already all tax. The first 6 powers are all taxes and should be free. If those powers were free then 15 or even 12 points would be enough. But as it stands you need to pay the whole budget just to function properly and there is nothing left to do something with the actual ghost stuff.
>>98885328>>98881835>Body: Unknowable 3>Ectoplasm: Black>Powers: 15- Visibility 3- Audibility 2- Tangibility 2- Dreambreaking 3- Anchoring 3- Willwell 2- Ectoplasm Font 2>Signature Power: Extra Power>Bane (Weakness): Silver>Bane (Immune): Holiness>Anchor: Newbie Exorcist>Favors: 3- Help the Police- Ghostbusting- Save LivesMy main goal is to use my powers to solve crimes and hunt down bad people/ghosts, so these favors are just to speed up the process. I'm assuming Melody's already part of the police force or at least a member of an exorcist organization. I could've picked Kametsuki or Claudian, but Melody seems like the type who'd die early if there isn't someone there to keep an eye on her.Can I choose who I want to get affected by my body archetype? The main reason I didn't go for the max 4 is because I didn't want Melody and/or my next Anchors to have a me
>>98885434>and going to the demon lord castle.You call being a sex slave in a reverse harem comfy? While also having to work as a maid?
>>98885442>Can I choose who I want to get affected by my body archetype?No. They are universal and can't be turned off. It's the whole point with body types.
>>98885432Limitations breed creativity and allow for Replayability give a man too many points and they will only play the cyoa once as their build can already do everything. This is why the most popular cyoas have strict point limits and only allow you to get a fraction of everything.
>>98885446Which is another problem. Locking appearance and powers like that is always a shitty design move.
>>98885436Fair enough.I did exactly that, but in my defense I only invested in vitality because I needed it for my signature.
>>98885437>The first 6 powers are all taxes and should be freeAnon, it's a ghost cyoa, ignoring being a ghost shouldn't be a basic assumption.I can agree that dividing it in three different powers to make it more costly might be overtuned, but them being free isn't necessary.Nta.
>>98885444Being protected and doted on by one of the strongest people in the setting is pretty comfy.
>>98885448>Limitations breed creativity and allow for ReplayabilityThey don't, they just make you not want to play. Why would I play something that limits me when I can have more fun with something that doesn't?And replayability is also a fake problem. My build is gonna stay the same anyway unless I change too, and then the replayablity doesn't matter anyway because my build would be different all the same. It's an artificial issue.
>>98885461>Anon, it's a ghost cyoa, ignoring being a ghost shouldn't be a basic assumption.How is taking those powers in anyway ignoring being a ghost? In fact you are even more ghost for having them. Those limitations aren't part of being a ghost, and a lot of ghosts in fiction have those free, so you should as well.
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>>98885467Being a slave isn't comfy anon. No matter how doting and powerful your master is you are still a slave. Having to pay to end up there is even less comfy. It looks like a BTG cyoa in that section.
>>98885468Well it feeds user engagement, more points means less unique builds can be posted. And popular cyoas like OR, SC, JT and the likes do get multiple builds from the same people. But as you said it's an artificial issue you can always just satre yourself more points if the point limit is to challenging for you.
>>98883903What's the point of any of that if the shitty lore in the book is still there? None of that matter anyway, everything you do can still be wiped out with a snap by someone else. The setting will remain fundamentally flwed as long as that's the case.
>>98885485>Well it feeds user engagement, more points means less unique builds can be posted.That's the biggest mistake the authors are making lately. Instead of making fake engagement like that focusing on how many different builds they can get they should prioritize how much fun people can have with the cyoa. This engagement is fake and forced.
>>98883903>Redux is--vaporware that is never coming out, like Star Runners and Echoes PSYsee you next year for the blogpost
>>98885501Anon, I give you this box. There's 100 points inside! You can use those points on anything you want. This is it, you can now have as much fun as you always wanted but people didn't let you!
>>98885485>just satre yourselfWe're namecalling now?
>>98885501Well how do you measure fun? The only metric you have is engagement. Like your own idea of fun might not be universal not everyone needs a fuck ton of points to have fun with a cyoa. Plus if the author gave this specific amount of points to a cyoa did they not think it was fun? You can't please everyone
>>98885512Well if they want more points they can satre more of them, like there is nothing preventing you to give yourself more points if you think it's necessary to Mae the cyoa fun.
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>>98885522>Well how do you measure fun? The only metric you have is engagement.No, engagement doesn't eauate fun. A lot of the engagement for the cyoas you named is clearly not fun, in fact most of it is arguments and shitposting.>You can't please everyoneYes you can. With more points the people wanting more points are happy, and the people wanting less points are also happy, because they can just spend less than the max.
>>98885527That's cheating.
>>98885527>>98885537that's cheating, but it's actually cheating by the author more than by the player "hurr you can just sartre it if you don't like my cyoa" bitch do you think this is skyrim or something
>>98883903Magi Case feels like someone made the world into what it is by playing another cyoa before you, and now you are left with the scraps after they took all the cheats for themselves.
>>98885534>the people wanting less points are also happyDoubtful. I can already hear the "What's the point of building if I can get everything?" complaints. If you're too loose with points, there is no choice.
>>98885547>"What's the point of building if I can get everything?"But you can't get everything, you can just get more. That's a fake argument. And it's also in bad faith, because nobody is forcing them to use all the points, it's a self inflicted problem.
>>98885545Auctors just had a headstart.I don't envy them one bit, since they're either sociopathic, depressive, obsessive or isolated wrecks.
>>98885542Not sure if an author would argue for it, as they probably want you to play it as intended. But in this particular case it's quite valid in my opinion. Like if the only reason your not playing the cyoa is because it doesn't give you enough points just give yourself more points? Like if you want fun and this gives you fun why not do it? Who is preventing you?
>>98885557Literally me...
>>98885557You don't call something a headstart when you will never be able to reach the same point just because they did it first. You can't out-train the book.
>>98885571>Who is preventing you?Nta but the whole thread calling it cheating and illegal. You can do that but you can't post or talk about it.
>>98885553I don't know. You'd quickly run into the horseshoe 'mandatory pick' in that by picking 2/3 of each options, your build is functionally the same as 2/3 of the others.It's adventurous, I feel.Then again I'm a Sartrefag, so points are meaningless to me. Only currency I respect is money.
>>98885553It's the same inflicted problem as no one is preventing you from giving yourself more points. The point value is just the vision of the author of how the cyoa was intend to be played.
>>98885589>The point value is just the vision of the author of how the cyoa was intend to be played.That vision is shit most of the time.
>>98885575You can't write a story where you invent your own brand of magic and have a meteoric rise?
>>98885584NTA. Tthe reason they call it cheating and illegal is because their purpose is to crab in a bucket you. They can't do that if you're having fun your own way.
>>98885588>your build is functionally the same as 2/3 of the others.Ok and? If that's what's fun then it doesn't matter. Why would I care if someone else made the same build as me?
>>98885584So does the anon want engagement or fun? Just don't post the build then. With too much points the builds will be samey so there is no point of posting them anyways.
>>98885602...It's like a waifu. If I have 100 of them, it has less [Meaning] than the one true love chosen above all. I assume. Haremfags are a thing, so this logic is flimsy.Do you perhaps have an example of CYOAs that would be better off with more points?
>>98885596Yes, but that's pointless. The book is still there, it auto updates, if you create a new magic it still falls under the control of the book. The book is the cheat the prvious player got, that's the problem. With no book the world would actually have meining again, but right now it doesn't.
>>98885621>the bookDon't tell me you're crying about the author that can be talk no justu'd?
>>98885628It's very hard for a powerfag to accept Drac's existence, please understand.
>>98885617>...It's like a waifu. If I have 100 of them, it has less [Meaning] than the one true love chosen above all.That's not how it works at all. Why would I care?>Haremfags are a thing, so this logic is flimsy.Yes, why choose one when you can have a harem? And why would having a harem men that any one girl in the harem is worth more than the others? That's not the point of a harem, it defeats the whole point if you love one more.>Do you perhaps have an example of CYOAs that would be better off with more points?A lot of them, but I don't remember the names. I would have to search for them to make a list.
>>98885633Lmao no. I thought he was complaining about not being able to join the divorce proceedings of Order and Creation, not that was mentally defeated by the most depressive Auctor around.
>>98885628It's not an auctor, it's a walking cheat. And it takes away any possible meaning from everything in the setting. Even if the auctor didn't have it, she isn't the problem, the book is the problem.
>>98881835>Body: Ectoplasmic 3Because slime girls are best.>Ectoplasm: PinkIt's a cute color, and good for cuddly and relaxing things.>Visibility 2, Audibility 2, Tangibility 2 (6)The complete pack of 'existing'.>Vitality 3 (9)For survivability if I'm hanging around exorcists.>Soulwarping 3 (12)>Ectoplasm Font 3 (1 for free from body) (14)>Hybrid Body (15)Adding in Enticing 2 for the sexy.>Signature Power: Ectoplasmic ColossusWhat's better than a cuddly, pink slime girl? A *giant* cuddly, pink slime girl!>Bane Immunity: HolinessHoly can cleanse ectoplasm, and I won't want my goo removed that easily. I would have gone for sunlight, but it doesn't actually clean ectoplasm, and I don't do a lot of reality bending, so I can put up with it.>Bane Weakness: OverwillSimilarly, ectoplasm is more of a left-behind substance than reality warping, so I can get around the worst of it.>Anchor: Newbie ExorcistI want to be her calming force for when she gets overwhelmed, which I imaging happens often. Also, I want to help protect her, despite not having much at my disposal except a calming ectoplasm and being big. The visual of the rookie exorcist summoning a colossal, conspicuous ghost to fight for them is also fun.>Movie NightI don't want the TV ghost to get lonely.>Help the PoliceThat's adjacent to an exorcist's job anyway, so getting Melody to do it should be easy enough.>Reform AngelsI'm going to try to reason with them. Being big gives me extra resilience on top of Vitality 3 and Holiness Immunity, so I have plenty of time to plea with them and show them how well I'm getting along with Melody, who is innocent and pure and will also help make my case. I don't think they'll be easy to convince, but I just need to be durable and sincere enough to keep trying.
>>98885633I don't care about Drac, she's pitiful. The cheat is different, and separate from her.
>>98885468>They don't, they just make you not want to play.nta but limitations are like the entire reason I play cyoas. If I just get handed everything I want on a silver platter it's no fun.
>>98885642>Yes, why choose one when you can have a harem?Hm... I guess it makes sense if all harem members also have open relationships with others.Otherwise I'm lost again, because the setup doesn't sound reciprocal nor fair. You wouldn't do that to a spouse.
>>98885671You're not greedy/lustful enough for the mindset, it's okay lil bro. Keep your singular soulmate while we're drowning in orders of magnitude more love than you.
>>98885683Unless you have multiple bodies at which point you achieve hivemind pseudo monogamy. You can't really get that much more love from a harem then a single person you only have so much time in a day.
>>98885499>>98885545>>98885575There are still anons ass hurt about Drac and she's one of the characters who encourages you take things comfy in life.
>>98881835What exactly is Possess Animate in Mimic 4? Old name for Embodiment?
>>98885668Miseryfag. Trash is that way.
>>98885709We're all Helios/Ford.
>>98885703>didn't take time powers or the infinite pocket dimensionYou don't know how to play this game, which is still okay lil bro
>>98885716Fool, misery is a part of cyoag, you will suffer and you will like it, now go slurp up the newest shitpost or deranged argument
>>98885671>I guess it makes sense if all harem members also have open relationships with others.That's no a harem, that's just sluttery.> because the setup doesn't sound reciprocal nor fair. You wouldn't do that to a spouse.That's not the point of a harem. The point of a harem is that the girls all love one guy and eccept to share him. It's fair to them, it's what they want. And the guy loves all of them equally.If you don't think it's fair then you just don't have the right mindset for it. Your heart is too small.
>>98885716>t. shoppinglist powerslopper
>>98885727Huh... is your waifu so weak she doesn't have time powers of her own? Any top tier waifu should be able to keep up with you.
>>98885741Anon would cry themselves to sleep if the waifu could keep up. What if she wins one day?
>>98885736>>98885671(nta)There exists a good solution for any related issues: a monster girl world where the lifespans of all girls are only a few weeks so in a time-independent sense you have a harem of thousands of monstergirls but each of them only occupies a few weeks of your time before she becomes boring and is filtered out and dies. This allows for exceptional variety and a true harem experience while the amount of people you have to put up with at a time can remain small.
>>98885736>girls all love one guy and eccept to share him. It's fair to them, it's what they wantSluts.
>>98885722Ford isn't pathetic like Helios though. Ford ACTUALLY defeated Ostane and her Asspull Creation from Nothing. He then went on to make Cybernetics and Robots REAL using magic.He HAS a cute wife and lost his virginity. By all meterics he is a successful mage and person.The HIM of authors.
>>98885716Never change funfag. Ironically you're probably the most anti-fun person in this thread short of the jeet.
>>98885749>I have a good solution!>each of them only occupies a few weeks of your time before she becomes boring and is filtered out and dies
>>98885633>>98885722Drac being incomprehensible to powerfags is funny as shit. She doesn't even do anything except mind her own business. You could murder a bunch of Drac mages and it won't bother her until you start firebombing her house. And even then she is like "Please, leave." Before she slaps you.
There was a lot of discourse about the point pool. I designed certain options like Visibility and Anchoring to be near-essential. There's really no difference between having Visibility as a power that costs points and having No-Visibility as a drawback that gives points. Sure, they'll appear in most builds, but usually to different extents. Due to their prevalence, I put them all at the top of the list (Anchoring was originally last on the list of powers, but I ended up shuffling it to the top because of how important it was). But as for if the ideal point value is anywhere from 12 to 21, I don't think there's any value that would be perfect for everyone. The original of 12 was a mistake - and I don't mean seeing a problem in hindsight mistake, I mean that I had intended to bump it up to 15 when I added Anchoring to my draft but forgot. I can understand a desire for more points, but ultimately I think 15 is the best balance for satisfying the most people, myself included. My apologies if this makes the CYOA unenjoyable for some.>>98885442Melody is part of an exorcist organization, but not yet affiliated with the spirit police. Since you have chosen both of those options, you'll have the unique experience ( well, unique but I also see >>98885659 has it) of guiding Melody on her first day of work as a police consultant, which is sure to be fun. Unfortunately, you can't be discriminant with your body archetype. Unlike powers, you have less control over them. Though if I do another update down the line (I'm not currently planning on such), an ability to allow you to protect individuals from those effects would be an option I'd want to add.
>>98885444>>98885467My plan for that option was that builds would typically take dreambreaking, splitsoul, violet ectoplasm (for cleaning properties), or something else in that vein to handle maintenance while you spend most of your time getting doted on by the succubus lady. I also have it read 'You'd easily be her favorite pet.' to imply that she's more interested in spoiling you than forcing you into labor.>>98885534>also happy, because they can just spend less than the maxI've never once seen a post in my entire time in these threads where someone bragged that they got everything they wanted with points left over. Usually it's comments that there were too many points so the choices didn't matter. If you've seen such, I'd appreciate a link to an old thread where this was the discourse, in case I'm just out of touch. But this has never been my experience.>>98885715Originally Possession and Embodiment were Possess Animate and Possess Inanimate, but I changed that in my draft. That's worth updating the first page to fix, which is attached to this post.
>>98885777Imagine being told about this strongest person in-setting. Usually you can micromanage your build to trample them, but now you have to accept that you, the protagonist, is inferior.You'd go spare too.
>>98885596I'm not even sure if my brand of magic even deserves to be called that
>>98885795Eromancy is valid and you should be proud of it.
>>98885781I am frustrated that I don't have enough points for my 'optimal' build (what I would want if I were really a ghost living this life). But there are certainly enough points for good builds, builds with variety, especially with the bump to 15.My only frustration is that you can get +1 Willwell (which is something every build needs) just by choosing to be a big titty lady. I don't want to be a big titty lady. But that one spare point could be the difference between a good life as a ghost and a great life.
>>98885779IMO it comes with the theme. An average ghost in media is miserable enough that exorcising them is framed as a good deed, which clashes with your comfy-coded cyoas.
>>98885828Agreed, the problem is people want to do everything. They want to be all powerful and then also have a fake life as the living - but that's not how undeath works. Ghosts don't get to have it all. These constraints made me think deeply about the choices I made. Did I cast off Beri's and make a wish fulfilment build? yes of course, Beri cannot hold me. But it was fun to make builds within the rules as well.
>>98885786Just because you are the protagonist doesn't mean you are meant to be the strongest. Or strongest in raw power Additionally, you can beat her with the cock as a man. Epiphany: It's actually kind of wild how sexist Magi Case is when you look at it.Drac is a failure because she is a woman. Karrylicht was born a woman and acted trans before realizing she is better suited to be a woman than a man/leader. Clans are all pro-men have multiple women as lovers to make babies. And this is even with female founders. All the dominant women that exist are all defiants or gay like the Yaga Clan, Ostane or that Ager rapists agent woman. Gays also get beat up and married off to the opposite sex.
>>98885843Oh, you don't need to convince me.>Additionally, you can beat her with the cock as a man.You're trying too hard. Handholding is enough to "beat" her.
>>98885848If we are being honst, Drac doesn't even use the book hack that she has. We know that she Helios fought her and she is capable of losing to a person conventionally. Italics even mentioned a coup in the Drac Clan once had her stabbed to death. So if you challenge her, you can absolutely defeat her.If you get Anti-Magic you can defeat any mage as well.
>>98885864True, but somehow irrelevant for powerfags. It's all about if they could kill her at her most desperate, serious self in a pure show of strength.
>>98885869>It's all about if they could kill her at her most desperate, serious self in a pure show of strength.What's even the point of fighting her if you're not going for that?
>>98885886You don't have to kill your opponent in a fight. The criteria to be the strongest is defeating them, if they lose, submit ir aconowledge you then you won.
>>98885900The criteria to be the strongest is to be the strongest Just because the actual strongest doesn't feel like trying against you doesn't make you stronger If I playfight with my nephew and I surrender because I'm not taking this seriously, is my nephew the strongest?
>>98885911What if you both duke it out and you lose? Are you still considering the nephew weaker than you because he can't parry your gun?
>>98885918If he only won because I decided to tie both hands behind my back and only fight him with one leg, yes
>>9888577918 is the most balanced option, not 15. That's it.
>>98885779Just raise the points again. You admit it's in the range, just give people the choice then. Add a difficulty option at the start, making them go from 12 to 21. That solves all problems.
>>98885843>Just because you are the protagonist doesn't mean you are meant to be the strongest. Or strongest in raw powerBlatantly false. The protagonist is the strongest, otherwise it's not the protagonist.
>>98885953The protagonist is the person followed by the narrative. Nothing else.
>>98885825>I am frustrated that I don't have enough points for my 'optimal' build (what I would want if I were really a ghost living this life).That's the most important part. If a cyoa fails that then it failed as a cyoa. If you don't want the cyoa to actually happen to you it's a bad cyoa.
>>98885953Re:zero? Lotr? You're on 4chan so you should be familiar with anime and lotr
>>98885779Just give a range of points instead. More authors should do that, it fixes all the problems I see everyone complain about.
>>98885966Difficulty section?Anons hate that and would call you reddit for suggesting it
>>98885964they have cheats enabled that make them win
>>98885964Do you have any idea how OP return by death really is? The fact Subaru is retarded and can't use it properly doesn't mean he's weak, he has the most OP power, he's just too dumb to use it.
>>98885953>The protagonist is the strongest, otherwise it's not the protagonist.I always knew Yhwach was the protagonist of bleach
>>98885971>Anons hate thatAnons are retarded so that's nothing new. It's the perfect solution to all problems. Do you know what it's called when you are offered the perfect solution and refuse to accept it? It's called retarded.
>>98885953That isn't being the protagonist. You are the protagonist (and main character) of Magi Case because the CYOA follows your adventures as a mage detective that makes a bunch of stuff happen. Not because you are the strongest.
>>98885953Even in Dragon Ball this is false.
>>98885981He's a jobber compared to "every power at once" Ichigo.
>>98885977Nta but the fact stands he isn't the strongest (also he's weaker than Satella or Reinhard regardless).
>>98885977Fair enough desu
>>98885994That's why Yhwach needed a plot save arrow to defeat Ichigo right?
>>98885953>can't conceive being the protagonist unless he's the strongestThis thread is only getting better.
>The protagonist is the strongest, otherwise it's not the protagonist.
Isekai’d as one of those white rabbitsMunching my way up Subaru’s bum
Jaapn’s obsession with lowkey OP powers used by (either prodigious or former losers) kiddos has always been dumb. Had Harry Potter been written in Japan, people like Harry and Hermione would be better wizards than fucking Dumbledore, and it would be very cringe.
>>98886040>Had Harry Potter been written in Japan, people like Harry and Hermione would be better wizards than fucking Dumbledore, and it would be very cringe.Kek youre 100% right
>>98886040sure thing babe
>>98886048It’s a problem in India too. It’s actually WAY more cringe in India. They have, like, farting demigod babies who can fart mountains in half.
>>98881835>>98885781I think I found another one.As far as I can tell, there is no such thing as Master Intangibility in the current version of the cyoa, but Embodiment 1 mentions it.
>>98886056Thanks, that's another important fix. I never actually had an 'Intangibility" power in the early draft, so this one was just a typo, but still a good thing to correct.
>>98885989Tell that to Goku with his infinite transformations.
>>98886006>That's why Yhwach needed a plot save arrow to defeat Ichigo right?The plot save arrow confuses me, since it was completely unnecessary.Yhawch was already Aizened from the moment he tried to recruit the butterfly fucker, and that mistake basically put him under permanent Suigetsu.The Almighty require Yhwach to SEE the timeline he wants to manipulate them, but his ability to see is under Aizen's control.Aizen could have just turned off Yhwachs almighty without him knowing. Hell, he could have let the royal guards turn Yhwach into a new Soul King Corpse with there even needing to be a fight, because Aizen could trap Yhwach in a dream while his body laid there comatose.
>>98886117>Hell, he could have let the royal guards turn Yhwach into a new Soul King Corpse with there even needing to be a fight, because Aizen could trap Yhwach in a dream while his body laid there comatose....but then there wouldn't be an epic shonen fight and there'd be nothing for ichigo to do?
>>98886127>and there'd be nothing for ichigo to do?There was Never anything for ichigo to do in that fight. He didn't accomplish anything, would have lost repeatedly without plot saves, and the only point he contributed was delivering the last hit after the villain was already defeated by everyone else, somethimg Anyone could do.Ichigo wasn't useful at all.
>>98886105Goku is a jobber to Freeza.Freeza is a jobber to Beerus.Beerus is a jobber to Whis.Whis is far from the strongest sibling.Daishinkan is the strongest angel, father of the rest and his strongest child (a daughter) is a jobber to him.Zalama is so strong the dragon balls he created are able to fulfill any wish so he should be above Dainshinkan at least in haxZeno Sama is still the strongest and can delete everything.Goku is not even top 20 of his own franchise. And even within mortals, Piccolo, Vegeta (who won his last fight against goku), Broly and Gohan are stated to be his level.
>>98886137>Ichigo wasn't useful at all.Bleach really should have ended after the Aizen arc. Nothing since then was as well written, nor did any of it really need ichigo to be there.
>>98881835>Ectoplasmic 4Well i will probably pick a cute chibi if i that counts as mascot character, if not i might choose the classical blob form or something like that. As for the human like form probably a loli because cute. Picking 4 instead of 3 because senses extending from the ectoplasm is fun>Teal/Pink -1Teal because i wanna be sticky, pink because the idea that the goo you are stuck on feels good is nice>Tangibility 20 visibility/audibility is liveable because ghost friends and some people can sense you regardless. Tangibility however would be very annoying to be without.>Vitality 1At the very least i want it taking some good effort for me to get exorcised>Willwell 2Willwell 1 feels like it isn't quite enough so i don't want to deal with being cut short.>Anchoring 2This should be good enough for what i want>Soulwarping 2Not picking this with tangibility 2 almost feels like a waste. It is also very economical in will.>Ectoplasm font 2+1This at tier 3 is probably overkill but i picked ectoplasmic, potent colorplasm, and hybrid plasm so might as well go all in. Tangibility mentions that i can move ectoplasm at 0 but i assume i can't control it remotely right?>Technokinesis 1I am picking this mostly so i can interact safely with computers and stuff. I also can make good use with it because i can interact with any electronics that i can see... Meaning anything near my ectoplasm and considering i have font 3 that's a big range. It also lets me sidestep the limitations of no audiability by making text on phones and the like. Dunno if it works for voice too.>Soulsearching 2Being able to lure people to me feels pretty important to keep things going. Sensing what they like or not is nice too. Could make people happy and stuff without having to try very hard... Kinda wish i could afford soulsearching 3 so i could have people on the same page as me. Kinda important for what i am going for.>Potent colorplasmAll in on the ectoplasm!1/2
>>98886154>Nothing since then was as well written>Implying Aizen arc was well written
>>98886160>Sunlight immunity (Free)It's nice that i don't have to worry about the sun i guess.>Water immunityMostly so you can't just wash off the ectoplasm.>Holiness immunity (free)Vitality 1 already makes me pretty sturdy against exorcists but this makes it even more annoying to deal with me >Discovery weaknessEh it isn't that bad. If i am getting summoned they probably want something of me instead of stabbing me. Besides it isn't like it is trivial to learn my true name.>Anchor: Vacant shrineDying if i end up with zero worshippers sounds bad but i can just lure people make them feel good and then eventually they are going to want to keep coming back specially when i get the ball rolling and get enough divine power to hand out blessings and stuff. Also chances are that Kiki can sense me right out the bat so it is nice i just hope she doesn't mind that i goop up most of the place haha.>Movie nightAnother ghost friend is nice i just hope i don't accidentally fry her because of me being a nascent lesser deity but it probably will be fine because i am her anchor so that might help.>To the templeSure why not? It's only fair and all that. Besides the red gate will look good on the temple.>Fight the -V>xS???If it wanted me gone chances are there is not that much i can do so i will just hope i can just say hi and talk it out. Otherwise i guess i will have to try my best and put up a good fight. All of that aside i curious to what her deal is and she is already on her way so might as well.
>>98886147This is the most retarded post I have seen this whole thread. It's like this guy watched a different dragon ball from everyone else.
>>98886164>Implying Aizen arc was well written"As"A naul through your foot isn't AS pleasant as stepping on a lego, but that doesn't make stepping on a lego very pleasant.
>>98886172Explain what is wrong with it. All I said its confirmed.
>>98885472Because Ghosts aren't supposed to interact with the living for the mostpart lmao. You're meant to haunt them, not show up to everyone and say howdy.
>>98883979https://pastebin.com/yExBYAwfChanged my old Cosmic/Space build a bit to worship EyObs instead of the All-Mother since her magic should work better for research. Also added a picture.
>>98885953...I refuse to believe a human being can be THIS retarded.
>>98886172Nta but he's right.Goku was oneshotted by frieza last time they met, was stated to be at the same level of those 4 and he's far weaker than angels, much less Zeno.>>98886173Fair enough, I realized I missed that as after posting.
>>98886202>a humanThey're lukely a Jeet given recent events. So no need to worry, it's probably not an actual human.
>>98886160A chibi form is well within the bounds of what Ectoplasmic 4 allows. As for moving ectoplasm remotely, you can do that as long as you have a way to sense through it. I had meant to add a specific power of some kind for that, or include it with Ectoplasmic body type, but it didn't quite fit anywhere. But other options mention that it is sometimes possible, so you can definitely do it. I do think teal / pink is a good combo that I myself would go for. And using technokinesis with your ectoplasm senses is a good plan to get a wide area of control - I like that.
>>98885966This is bad and no one should ever do it
What would work for sliding power options is making ghosts get stronger as they age, and then allowing people to design the ghost they will become as well as what they start out as
>>98886222> As for moving ectoplasm remotely, you can do that as long as you have a way to sense through it. I had meant to add a specific power of some kind for that, or include it with Ectoplasmic body type, but it didn't quite fit anywhere.Nice! This makes ectoplasm more fun to mess with.
>>98886246The shrine option lets you have a measure of divine power, and part of that divine power is letting you resist banes. So a precedent does exist for gaining extra choices from the CYOA with time and effort.
You get an update to Spirit Conscript, but you have to go workout at the gym with PCA, at risk of shaming yourself. Do you do it?
>>98886305How big is the update? What does it add?
>>98886305>at risk of shaming yourself....How?Unless PCA is an NFL linebacker, I'd be more concerned about accidentally hurting him with my routine.
>>98886325PCA is our strongest author
>>98881835Please put version numbers on the images!
Question for the Thread, are there any Psychic/Psion CYOAs with the same powerlevel and detail as Power Creator, Spirit Conscript and Laboratorium do for capeshit, kishit, and biopunk?I'm doing an Ouroboros build, but all the Psionics CYOAs I've found are either hot garbage or some low-power urban fantasy shit.
>>98886332Beri chokes him with 1 hand
>>98886344Now anon is asking real questions.
PCA is our strongest author
>>98886344PCX-power-level psychics setting would be just a cape setting with psychic powers.The distinction between the genres relies on the lower and more grounded level of society and action that you reject imo.
>>98886344Mindslaver.
>>98886360cattofagotto, go back to discord
>>98886363>The distinction between the genres relies on the lower and more grounded level of society and action that you reject imo.>Looks at warhammer 40kI think you just lack imagination anon.
>>98886360
Gil is stronger
>>98886370Fuck off Tok
>>98886360>>98886382This thing is a weakling
>>98886387You fuck off random, no noteworthy, no author anon
Softie is more strongerer
>strongest>loses to the gun
>>98886378What. WH40k is obviously not a "psychic setting". It has space wizards who may called psychics, but it lacks most of what could make something a psychic setting.And if it was, shouldn't you be fine with a WH40k cyoa?
>>98886370go back to painting your dolls, tokcuck
The rot is here, but you refuse to heed my warnings.
>>98886409Ntt but go back to discord.
>>98886344If you want the correct answer anon, you're not gonna like it.It's "The Facility Redux": https://imgchest.com/p/o24aklbwg7l It is the only psychic cyoa that has PCA's setting powerlevel and an actual power/mechanics variety.An author lost their mind and wrote a 90+ page CYOA where every power, bonus and backstory combos with and unlocks everything else across dozens of pages. It takes Weeks to optimize a build anon. WEEKS.
>>98881835Making ANOTHER build, a quick one, based around protecting our little exorcist Melody Silverline. Others have done this, but mine will be focused on being her attack dog. Point and I kill.>Body>Feral 4, form of a Giant Spectral Lynx>White Ectoplasm>Powers (15)>Tangibility 2 (14)>Willwell 3 (11)>Flight 2 (9)>Embodiment 2 (7)>Soulwarping 3 (4)>Dreambreaking 3 (1)>Vitality 1 (0)>Signature Power: Sculpted PossessionEverything is designed around helping the kid do her job.Feral makes me appear scary to enemies but like her big teddy bear to her.White Ectoplasm let's us do stealth missions or get into places we shouldn't be.Flight, Embodiment, Soulwarping all go together to allow me to be a shapeshifting god capable of doing nearly anything to help her. Tangibility lets me, even if my object somehow breaks, still crush things. Also I can't go larger than a gigantic bear while in object form, so if I need skyscraper strength I can still use it with Tangibility.Dreambreaking is just icing on the cake for my power, and of course I can use that and my shapeshifting infinitely with Willwell 3.Vitality just in case.>Holy ImmunityI'll be working with a little lady of the church so >Weakness to BarriersLiterally does not matter since my Anchor is a person who can walk into buildings, rendering the weakness moot
>>98886474>It is the only psychic cyoa that has PCA's setting powerlevelAnon, this CYOA is a street-level urban fantasy. It treats being able to throw around multiple cars like a godlike feat at the apex of psychic power. A legendary Core user in SC can throw Mountains.
>>98886517Yeah again I don't understand how people are saying there aren't enough points when I could take everything I needed and more. Maybe it's because this build had no anchor? If I wanted one more thing it'd be Flight 3 so I can pick her up and circumnavigate the world in 10 seconds. But that'd kind of ruin the adventure of it.
>>98886406>And if it was, shouldn't you be fine with a WH40k cyoa?They're all hot garbage anon. For some reason 40k fans are incapable of making good cyoa
>>98886541It's the powerfags they will always want more points
Why is beri cherished here
>>98881835Is anyone making a buildlist? If noone is I could make one.
>>98886344Isekai Repopulation Program.
>>98886541Anchoring is a huge painful tax. And without at least Technokinesis 1 you fuck over tech, and that kinda sucks for a modern person, so yet another tax.
>>98886577beri is beri nice
>>98886585Ha ha very funny anon.
>>98886577anti-dramawhore. pure "OC and dip" chad. enough said.
>>98886585>Unironically reccomending tranny shitGo back to /trash/
>>98886541I kinda wanted one more point for soulsearching 3 i guess.
>>98886541You don't get it anon, I NEED to have all of the powers I want and none of the ghost weaknesses, I have to blow up a hospital otherwise.
>>98886641Why would you blow up the hospital you live in there
What I'm learning from all of this is thst despite there being a shit ton of psychic-power focused settings of all power levels like Xcom, Star Wars, and Warhammer 40k, there've been precisely zero good CYOA at anything above street-shitter level?
>>98886658It's sad, but true.
>>98886658Street level = best level
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>>98886669>being a jobber is okay!You're never beating Drac.
>>98886673
>>98886685
>>98886658Sounds like an untapped Niche a CYOA author could fill yo have an instwnt thread-killer if they do it right.Just follow anon's autism checklist from last thread: >>98879833
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>>98886695No one is actually gonna do it. Anons are too retarded to make OC. Beri had to come in and save the thread from SC, otherwise this would still be conscript general
>being a jobber is okay!Exactly right!
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>>98886695You think anons are actually going to Learn from past authors instead of doing it the hard way making shit CYOA after shit CYOA?You SEVERELY overestimate the average anon.
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>>98886720>Deleted his previous postKek
>>98886536The original was, the new stuff added by the 100 page autism makes you much stronger. And the original DLC was even better, you could bcome a Diconiclus and split atoms.
>>98886720>God proving us rightPowerCHADS are unstoppable.
>>98886738Anon, I was talking about the 100 page autism one. "Much Stronger" is still barely licking the dirt off a conscript alchemist's shoes level.The DLC isn't much better.
>>98886536Redux added more power. And some of those powers do get ridiculous, mostly the DLC ones. Aura is a force multiplier, which means that if you have super strength from other sources it stacks. One power makes you a vampire and lets you comand a literal sea of blood, one power allows you to become a shadow monster and create black holes. It's not cultivation shit level, but it's definitely higher than street level.The new version also allows you to empower the original powers to higher levels and grow stronger.
>>98886764I don't think you understand how strong the girl from Elfen Lied was.
>>98886344Detail no, but for just raw power there's Super Simple Psion from that reddit author who also made Witch Awakening v2 onwards. It's pretty powerful by default, and has a possibility of infinite scaling. The setting is however pretty much nonexistent and you are incentivized to combine it with something else.
>>98886658>>98886683Italics made Echoes and the highest powerlevel in that CYOA is Street-tier using Psychic Powers fight aliens. You canonically beat the invading Emperor and his army while being street-tier and become the strongest psychic user among your classmates. You also have a harem.There is nothing wrong with being street-tier.
>>98886803>and the highest powerlevel in that CYOA is Street-tierNot really. The old version had infinite scaling. You're not forced to take it but it's there.>while being street-tier and become the strongest psychic user among your classmates.You don't become the strongest, you already are at the start. Mostly because everyone only has one power while you get 3/5 instead.>You also have a harem.Not in the original. Several of the girls are clearly implied to be in love with you, with a surprising amount being straight up yanderes, but in the original version you can only date one. The harem is a planned feature he promised in the update, but the love letter in the version we have now is limited to one.
>>98886803>You canonically beat the invading Emperor and his army while being street-tierOf course there is nothing wrong with being street tier against street tier threats. The sharksquids are jobbers.
>>98886617Nta but in the bottom has some "au" stuff, including one to be male.
>>98886827>You don't become the strongest, you already are at the startPeople wouldn't be able to bear it otherwise.
>>98886850Nta, but you expect someone to go though the trouble of reading a whole NSFW cyoa that's clearly about a fetish they hate to get to the bottom of it and see an AU option? If there are alternatives mode of play they should be at the start, and even then I'm sure it doesn't fix much for a lot.
>>98886617Just play karmic rebalancing instead then
>>98886874If they put effort into the research it's their fault for beign a prude.
>>98886858Not true. Anons are willing to work for the power of being the strongest too, as long as the status of being the strongest is guaranteed. Just look at all the builds that take the "you start at level 1" type drawbacks. Anons don't want to be the strongest immediately, unlike what all the shitposting says.
>>98886874Fair enough, I liked the power system so pretty much ignored the fetish and on the bottom I noticed that option, but yeah, the cyoa is obviously geared towards a fetish and an option at the end won't change that.
>>98886891Being a prude and not having the same fetish as the cyoa are 2 different things.
What's fun about being the strongest anyway?
>>98886901You gain a resistance to NTR
>>98886901Aurafarming against the second strongest
>>98886914Anon....
>>98886914Someone tell the trashanons to make a cyoa about ntring someone way stronger than you
>>98886776>It's not cultivation shit level,That's the main issue. Anons other examples are:>>98886344>Power Creator, Spirit Conscript and LaboratoriumWhich are all cultivation tier.He's looking for a psychic cyoa that can match those 4 in power and variety of abilities.
>>98886932They hate ntr too.
>>98886344Wasteland Scion?
>>98886947They hate being ntr'd but how many hate ntring others?
>>98886956Equal amount. NTR is a trash fetish.
>>98886953Nowhere near neither the power level nor the variety of the examples.
>>98886965>NTR is a trash fetish.You forgot the "/ /" in "/trash/"
>>98886971No. It's so trash that not even trash wants it. Every single ntr cyoa is a shitpost.
>>98886827>Not in the original.The original Echoes is a waifupicker that is quasi-canon epilogue. All the girls love you and are your personal harem. Stop coping.
>>98886344How have there been no anons pointing at Perpetuance Protovol Pod Program yet???https://imgchest.com/p/a846gp327xj Are all anons in this thread Newfags???
>>98887008I don't care for solved cyoas.
>>98887008We hate omega psi and used delta psi to erase it from everything memories
>>98887008PPPP only gives half the points it reasonably should. Why the fuck would surgery take 1000 years out of you 2000???
>>98887008Do you want an honest answer to that?
>>98887026Because those 1000 years are reserved for making you immortal?
>>98887026My guy, giving everyone 2000 years meams they'll take Incarnate Protocol and one other power in addition to Omega PSI and Machine Empathy.The author fucked up by having 1 build to rule them all.
>>98887040>Because those 1000 years are reserved for making you immortal?Anon, Incarnate Protocol takes 600 years, Angelic Tramscen takes 400, and Nanoswarm takes 350. I'd rather have a choice in whether the machine will waste 1000 years making an immortal meat body I already plan to Leave the moment the pod opens.
>>98887067>Incarnate Protocol takes 600 years, Angelic Tramscen takes 400, and Nanoswarm takes 350Lone Observer really didn't think this one through, did they?
>>98886839Sharksquids are an interstellar empire of Mongols/Vikings. They are not street tier or jobbers.
>>98886998What? You mean the post story yandere? That one is even worse, you still only choose one and if you actually read it each profile gives conflicting information. Each one is clearly written from a perspective of you being with only one of them from the start. Some even imply how that girl got rid of all the others. That one was never a harem, the proper cyoa at least leaves it up to you if you don't pick the letter.
>>98887067>Anon, Incarnate Protocol takes 600 years, Angelic Tramscen takes 400, and Nanoswarm takes 350.For all you know these are being discounted by the whatever works being done for you cure mortality mods since you can't take them without it anyway
>>98887008>How have there been no anons pointing at Perpetuance Protovol Pod Program yet???Anon specified he was look for a cyoa thst was Not "hot garbage"
>>98887008For me it's the flavor and the percentage of relevance. Only 2 out of 4 scenarios really let you get psy stuff, and only one gets to that power level. And that one is flavored to not feel like a psychic setting.
>>98887026>muh pointerinosno amount of points will fix your "Skill Issues" IRL drawback
>>98887105Terminal condition is the only one that doesn't let you play with psy stuff tho?
So what I'm hearing is that there's literally nothing? Despite over a decade of cyoas and all the eldritch and psychic cyoas that have been produced, not a single one is a decent cultivation-tier setting for psionics?
>>98887067What those do is described as being based upon what has otherwise happened to your body, so the other options you take aren't pointless, and stat increases actually do something. However that does suggest that the 1000 years is a foundation upon which those options are built.
>>98887121Do it yourself. Right here, right now.
>>98887008The betrayer route would make a cool manga. Like, fighting the pantheon with cool powers and everything.
>>98887121Not surprising, the science fiction psionics are typically associated with isn't known for high personal power levels.
>>98887145But is it worth it to potentially doom everything?
>>98887120The second scenario does give more points than what I remember. Still, it's not a psy setting, you would be the only one with those powers.
>>98887148So this is how we save sci-fi cyoasWe make ripoff star wars except with bigger numbers
>>98887149You mean save? All gods are bastards.
>>98887162>you would be the only one with those powers.There are more chrononauts than just you dude, the others are going to start waking up eventuallyIf you can figure out a way to extend your life then you can deal with the psi-royal families Elspeth theorized about
>>98887121The only cyoas I can think of that are cultivation-tier or around that for psionics aren't decent. All I can think of as having that are cyoas by Troy X, as well as the already mentioned Isekai Repopulation Program.
>>98887149Absolutely.
>>98887179I remember that the other pods failed or something, but I never paid too much attention to the first 2 scenarios. The latter 2 are just so much better and have better access/potential for immortality.
>>98887148It's kinda sad. Fantasy Writers treat Psionics with a lot more respect and imagination than their native sci-fi writers do. Fantasy writers treat psionics as an esoteric rival to the infinite power of magic, but sci-fi writers can barely contain their contempt for concept when it takes time away from masterbating over the gun designs.
>>98887248Eh, it's not like high power psychics don't exist in sci-fiThey just tend to be1. Not the protagonist2. Treated like omnipotent gods so the writers can't let them be involved in anything And for cyoas there's basically 4 archetypes sci-fi cyoas have you play as, high power psionics doesn't fit any of them without stealing the show1. Random loser with a cool toy2. Bureaucrat3. Army commander4. Jobber that doesn't matter
>>98887286cite a cyoa for each archetype you listed.
>>98884453I know someone who is likely to kill themselves before the end of the year. The feels I have regarding that are mostly of incompetence. A more competent person would know exactly what buttons to press to prevent them from doing that. I like to think I'm not a complete imbecile but when it comes to people skills I find myself lacking and here it really hurts, all the more so because I know that person is actually easy to influence by media etc, sometimes I've said a thing and later that person is absolutely convinced that was his idea all along, so he's theoretically receptive. But I can't instrumentalize it. It's weird to me that for all the endless hours of life that so many people throughout history have spent on theorizing how people work, there's so little good applicable theory. Some of the people theorizing all this were even quite smart people. But all we have available to us right now is some kind of bunk. I guess it's like stock markets, if you announce a theory then the market adjusts to price it in and it becomes useless as a tool.
>>98887088That's how you chose your own adventure, cuck. Post Story Yandere basically has all the girls right and their events happening at the same time.
>>98884453I probably should desu
>>988873551. Every ship cyoa2. Every colony/sim cyoa3. That officer one that keeps being posted and the star wars ones.4. Space Hell and Galaxy's Most Wanted
>>98887248Star Wars is the biggest scifi with with psychic powers and jedi/sith are mostly treated with due respect when they appear. The force is so powerful that only another user can contend with it. Which is why they tend to get sidelined when the story doesn't revolve around them.
>>98887374>3. That officer one that keeps being posted and the star wars ones.All the fleet builders too
>>98887374>1. Every ship cyoaAll the power armor ones too
>>98887374Explain to me how is Galaxy's Most Wanted falls under the "Jobber that doesn't matter" archetype? The cyoa gives you a wide selection of skills to be the absolute GREATEST at in the entire galaxy. And a super alien spaceship. Not to mention the fact you are hounded by multiple space empires due to how dangerous you are. The weakest part of the cyoa is the shitty cybernetics but that's fine since you can make your own with the designated skill.
>>98887406I forgot and thought no one would fact check me
>>98887379Glup Shitto solos forcekeks.
>>98887416Minor Space Villain would've been a better choice desu.
>>98887426Meant for >>98887406>>98887413
>>98887426>Minor Space VillainIs that a CYOA?
>>98887432yes, an old one
>>98887437Never heard of it, post it!
>>98887355>>98887374I'll do you one better:1. SCRAPPER (an absolute classic)2. Solar Inheritance (another classic)3. Solar Legion (most underrated aro cyoa imo)4. Post-Eros by Highlander (iykyk)
>>98887365>Post Story Yandere basically has all the girls right and their events happening at the same time.Which is impossible since several of those events contraddict each other. Post Story Yandere isn't a complete narrative, it's a different narrative for each waifu, only the one you pick is real. I clearly remember the cildhood friend mentioning how she burned her rivals to a crisp in post story. It's how the story would have gone if you decided to stick with only one of them the whole way. You can't have a harem in that situation.
>>98887406>Galaxy's Most WantedWhich one is that? I don't remember it, I was sure it was another one but I don't think it's called that. I remember space criminal.
>>98887454Don't argue with haremfags, they have sacrificed logic for gooning power long ago.
>>98887465BTG's. One of their oldest and best cyoas. Before the great miseryporn transition.
>>98886517That's a cute build, I like it. You get a lot of versatility with Sculpted Possession. And I hadn't considered it before, but yeah, I suppose Barriers is a fairly harmless weakness for a human Anchor. I like the weak exorcist with a powerful guardian spirit archetype.
>>98887121>all the eldritchWait, there might be a lovecraft cyoa out there with a psychic focus.
>>98881961bleach
>>98887379>The force is so powerful that only another user can contend with it.In the expanded 7niverse sure, but all of that was retconned out. Disney starwars treats the force like a cool toy rather than an omnipotent force.
What do people think of those yogsekai CYOAs? I liked them.
>>98887515Same it's a shame yog left
>>98887519couldn't handle the heat
>>98886776>Aura is a force multiplier, which means that if you have super strength from other sources it stacksI liked that one, super versatile but not too op. Paired with the Lord of the Flies kid island facility made for a fun capeshit imagination session.The power and facility selections were surprisingly good for a shitty unofficial reddit knockoff "DLC". If only they didn't use all that vomit inducing AIslop.
>>98887519yes it's a shame yog left
https://unrealistic-reality.wanderingstranger0.org/this korean cyoa got translated recently
>>98887531Keep that filth to yourself.
>>98887523>heatYou should stop that anon. Sexual harassment is wrong, even to authors.
>>98887538its gooodd
>>98887515A bit too samey but had potential.
>>98887531I hate these shitty interactive CYOAS. (I'm playing through this but I want the other Anons to think I'm cool. Please understand.)
>>98887546You're cool if you pick the mandatory perks
>>98887514>Disney starwars treats the force like a cool toy rather than an omnipotent force.Really? I thought one of the major complaints about the new trilogy was that the Force became a bullshit plot device (Rey's Mary Sue feats, Palpatine somehow being alive, etc...).
>>98887546This implies that anti-interactive sentiment is a psyop meant to keep gatekeep interactive kino.
>>98887565you're getting it
>>98887515I wish he had made one polished final version rather than remaking it several times, one with all the best elements from different versions could have been great.
>>98887574Based if true.
>>98887531is there a back button at all?
>>98887559>I thought one of the major complaints about the new trilogy was that the Force became a bullshit plot devicePalpatine being alive was from him cloning himself, the force wasn't involvedRey being a Mary Sue comes from the plot and characters bending over backwards to let her do whatever she wants. She rarely even Uses the force because plot solves most of her problems.The sequel trilogy actually has fewer feats of force use than the original trilogy.
>>98887531k
>>98887441Here you go
>>98886683Street Level is objectively the most engaging level for any kind of narrative when it comes to powers.
>>98887454>>98887469The chdhood friend waa using a hyperbole. She is also a canon schizo, but unironically. You cannot trust everything she says especially as several characters mention each other. P.P tells you how things went down the most so a harem is possible if you CHOOSE.
>>98887610name one cyoa for each size
>>98887515I liked all the yog cyoas. I'm a bit annoyed by the fact he just kept calling them the same thing and changing the version numbers when they were actually very different cyoas, it made finding them all difficult, and I'm pretty sure some are not archived properly because of it. Otherwise they are pretty fun, not just the yogsekai, the others too. The only one I didn't like was the "your brain is dead" one.>>98887519>>98887526Yog did stealth update a random cyoa putting it only on imagechest. I think he's still around, he may have switched over to QQ like that other author who also posts on imagechest.
>>98887578Anon, Yog doesn't remake the same cyoa. They're all a series of sequels and sideplots of one expanded cyoa universe.He does reuse the same format and color pallet though, meaning it's hard to tell which one is which at first glance.
>>98887618>meaningfagOf course you of all people would accept mediocrity
>>98887617
>>98887624>Yog doesn't remake the same cyoa.Nta. He does do that too. He seems to have landed on a standardized power section lately as well.>They're all a series of sequels and sideplots of one expanded cyoa universe.Not all of them, some are more standalone, or part of a different world.
>>98887633no it's just that "I throw my big energy ball (which is what all high level powers eventually end up as) at the enemy who shoots his death beam at me" gets boring real quick
>>98887624>Anon, Yog doesn't remake the same cyoa.wtf are you going on about, he made the isekai cyoa with same name and growing version number for like seven times
>>98887610>>98887620Megumin: Urban Unease Aqua: Demigod Darkness: Outer Reincarnation Wiz: Anime High School
>>98887515I thought they were coola little repetative with some of the updates but always fun to playI hope he's doing well
>>98887515Inferior to Dragonfall.
>>98885961>If you don't want the cyoa to actually happen to you it's a bad cyoa.If that's the case, then I would say A New Ghost fails entirely. Most of the builds that are actually interesting concepts are obviously not something the person making it "would actually want". I say this as one of those who made a "concept" build rather than a "would actually want" build. Because most builds didn't buy visibility/audibility/tangibility 2 and guess what? People want to be able to interact with other people instead of being lonely all the time. Only being able to interact with people by fucking with them via dreambreaking is actually not a good life in the long term. Heck, very few builds even took technomancy which means they can't even get social interaction through the internet.However, I would take issue with the statement that only cyoas that you would actually want to happen to you are good cyoas. There's still a place for cyoas that only have room in the points for "concept" builds, which is what A New Ghost is. Plus, your statement seems to imply that cool horror or island scenario cyoas are worthless, which they aren't. Night Ride is really cool, for example, but you wouldn't actually want to be in that situation.
>>98887670Each version number of it is actually a different cyoa with different mechanics and different powers. Some things are similar but they are overall too different to be called the same. Once cyoa has you create the world, one has you in a standardized fixed world, one has you choose from a selection of premeade worlds with different missions and companions. Some are drawback heavy and focus on a more classic selection of powers, some have a different sytem and instead work on powers with theoretically infinite scaling. Some have outlined combos, others don't.
>>98887699yeeeees I know, that's why I wished he had put that effort into making one polished cyoas instead of seven okay ones
>>98887698Self-insertbros...our response?
>>98887698I would want my build to happen to me, although thats because I like the idea of being worshipped and living in an infinite palace
>>98887698>If that's the case, then I would say A New Ghost fails entirely.Yes it does, that's the whole point.>There's still a place for cyoas that only have room in the points for "concept" builds,No there isn't. It isn't even your adventure, you are making a character to experience it instead of you. It's not your adventure if it's not happening to you.> Plus, your statement seems to imply that cool horror or island scenario cyoas are worthless, which they aren't. Night Ride is really cool, for example, but you wouldn't actually want to be in that situation.That's not true, because strangely enough you have a lot to gain in those cyoas. If it's only a survival situation then it is worthless and a bad cyoa, but many of those give you magic artifacts and powers and companions so you have something to gain from going through that.If a cyoa is worse than real life it's worthless too.I think Night Ride is cool because you actually have to gain from it. Same with Urban Unease, that one has little to no direct power to gain for yourself, but it places you in a situation where you could gain a lot if you're willing to interact with the supernatural.
>>98887698Idk, I'd want my reality warping build to happen irl even without the 'human' perks.
>>98887710I will continue to choose my own adventure.
>>98887732Do we have to add an anti scottish for you to be invested?A : "This is happening whether you like it or not and if you don't choose we just roll dice" disclaimer?
>>98887618Did you just say... street?
>>98887710He's wrong and dumb, he's playing cyoas wrong. But there is no cure for such illness so we can only pity him.
>>98887710If you can't both self-insert and storyfag they you shouldn't be playing cyoas.
>>98887618I prefer the more elegant term "Hood Level".
>>98887745Why would I care about that? What would that do? I will just ignore the cyoa as a whole anyway so it changes nothing. If anything it makes it worse because rollshit is not good design.
>>98887754>do both>it's been the same story of me being [[THE_STRONGEST]] and getting mad bitches for the past decadeIt's good to be part of the elite.
>>98887754If you create characters then you are not playing cyoas. You are choosing someone else's adventure.
>>98887766>Creatively bankrupt fag jerks himself off to the same mental scenario over and over for years.Imaginationlets are so pitiful.
>>98887716Which build is yours that lets you be worshipped in an infinite palace?
>>98887769Yep that's why all my D&D characters are self inserts, storytelling is gay. Glad there is somebody of a similar mind brother. Tiefling high five? Or should I say ... tail five XD
>>98887780I think the one that took Liminal Space.
>>98887777>t. crying as I take his waifu
>>98887769>AAAAHH! I'M IMAGINING SOMEONE ELSE!! AHHH I'M GOING INSANE SAVE ME NIGGERMANNN!!!lmao
>>98887789>ntrcuckopinion discarded
>>98881835I just realized by the name that this is the same person who did A New Necromancer. As far as choices go, that's one of my favorite CYOAs. This one also is. I think you have earned a fan
>>98887764So you use sartre?Anyway, this whole point is nonsensical because I enjoy cyoas that are not like that, and I am capable of self inserting into bad situationsThe point of a thing is in how you use it, and so as long as a cyoa is fun to the people who played it it's a good cyoa regardless of any external metricHonestly if I could reincarnate with full memory I would probably die in a variety of extremely gruesome ways
>>98887788nay, that was mine.
>>98887777Perhaps they're like these perfectionists at school. There is a need to be the very best in all CYOAs else the ego splinters.
Do self insert fags really have mental breakdowns when playing videogames, reading books, watching movies with established protags? Why are they like this?
>>98881835When you are backseat possessing somebody, can you talk into their minds? When you're front seat possessing somebody, can they still see what you're doing with their body? That's lowkey so hot if so
>>98887780>>98881659I updated it with the points
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>>988878114chan attracts autists.
>>98887818>meaningfag againGo back to the streets with your hated cyoa.
>>98887810If you're ego is so fragile that it shatters at the mere thought of looking at things with a different perspective then you are weakling who won't survive in the real world.
I just don't want to be someone else. Why would I want to be someone else when I am happy being myself already?
I don't want to imagine someone else living MY adventure while I'm stuck here. This is NTR to the highest degree.
>>98887811selfinsertfags are the constant butt of joke on /v/ and /lit/ for that exact same reason. They have no creativity or sovl, they can only masturbate physically, mentally, and spiritually. Its sad as fuck.
>>98887594Deselect whatever closed the previous stuff
>>98887698My build hasn't invested into visibility and audibility and i still think it would be nice if it happened to me.
>>98887848Imagine being happy in a rotting, ageing body stuck on a planet that will get all fucked up in the next 10 years.Couldn't be me.
>>98886344I just remembered one, though it is rather focused on the hivemind aspect rather than other psionic powers, Overmind by Hexalby.
Your move
>>98887859>Imagine being happy in a rotting, ageing body stuck on a planet that will get all fucked up in the next 10 years.None of those things define who I am.
>>98887864...I had waifus????Good for you, I guess.
>>98887848If you really are happy with yourself why is the thought of writing/reading a story about someone else unbearable to you? Shouldn't someone who loves themselves have enough self-confidence to put themselves in someone else's shoes without feeling insecure? >>98887852You have a severe case of porn-induced brainrot. I suggest you take a break from those sites.
>>98887864You are one of my waifusCheckmate retard. Have fun fucking yourself. Have fun frisking your mother with my cum leaking out of your ass
>>98887864All my waifus are 10ft tall hairy ugly fat men with a gay rape fetish. Have fun.
>>98887892Softie...
>>98886577Insignificant authors do not garner any sufficient level of animosity, where's beri's threadkiller? that's right, he has none
>>98887864...So i pick it and i NTR you and fuck all your waifus? I don't get it. Are you into it? Why would you make this?
>>98887883>If you really are happy with yourself why is the thought of writing/reading a story about someone else unbearable to you?But it's not? I'm fine with reading books and playing games. But cyoas are different, they are choose YOUR OWN adventure, there is no point if it's not me. If I want to see/read someone else's story I read a book, or watch a movie. If I want to write a story about someone who isn't me I don't need a cyoa. If I want to roleplay as a different character I play a ttrpg.Cyoas have a thing they are supposed to do and I use them for that thing. It's not hard to understand.
>>98887852When you play D&D do you get jealous of your own character? Nigga you're playing the character.
>>98887908>"I'm a consumer! I don't like to create! I have no imagination!"Okay thanks for explaining we get it now. Maybe this isn't the cyoa venue for you? Most people here create interesting builds or have authored CYOAs, I think perhaps r/makeyourownchoice would be more your speed
>>98887910Yes. If it's a boy I try to engineer his death and if it's a girl I try to get her mindbroken. They don't deserve my adventure.
Selfinsertfags are basically that rental girlfriend author who felt so cucked by his own MC he had to forcefully insert himself into>>98887908 the story.
>>98887914Are you blind? It's like you only read half of what I wrote. I play ttrpgs, I wrote stories before, I made cyoas. I just use things for what they were made. I don't use a spoon to cut bread, I use a knife. Cyoas are for self insertion, there are other things made to make characters.
>>98887906It's a choose MY own adventure. A CMOA. It's a new thing I'm trying out.
>>98887932So i can play it because it would be my adventure?
>>98887921>who felt so cucked by his own MC...the same mc he made into a shameless cuck...
>>98887908Think of it this way. Any character you create is a facet of yourself, even if they aren't a exact carbon copy of you they are wholly made by you and thus are 100% "you".
>>98887941Exactly, in the same way that God gave us divine souls, we give of ourselves to our characters.
>>98887939He got so angry at his MC for getting his fictional waifu crush that he made it his mission to make his life hell. Imagine if God had this mentality...
So self insertion is a mental illness is what I'm getting.
Every build i make is me.Yes even the ones full to the gills with drawbacks.
>>98887950Imagine?
>>98887970>Yes even the ones full to the gills with drawbacks.That's just making it accurate to the real you anon.
>>98887884>>98887892
One side of this argument isn't even reading the other side.
>>98888011for me the problem with self-insertion is how many points you get, I am objectively a talentless hack with no redeeming qualities and should not be capable of so much
>>98885272Welll you need to keep occupied if you don't want to go crazy in the afterlife so I thought relic hunting hobby was something to prioritize>>98881186I'm thinking after I bond with the Train, this is what I'd want the train's layout to look like.You enter near the mid/front. It's a lounge/greeting area, perhaps I'm there to say hello, sign them in (if needed?). Mostly a place to relax, look at the view, and enter. From there you can go right or left.If you go right>LibraryLarge beautiful car full of books of all types. I want to collect occult things but the general collection should have all sorts of books to appeal to all sorts of dead.>Keeper's CarNo entry beyond this point for most. It opens into an lounge room where I can receive visitors, beyond that my private office and workstation. Beyond that we double the space for a spa on one side and a fitting room on the other. This is the threshold. Then a nice bedroom, and beyond that a private library where I keep my secret stuff. >Baggage CarStorage>LocomotiveBut if you had gone left from the reception>Bar/ClubIf we can get a bartender perfect, I want people to be able to come have a drink after they board, chat, unwind.>Recreation RoomStill deciding on the exact layout but a cinema, perhaps board games, that sort of thing. Probably split.>Dining RoomA more proper luxurious dining car for people to munch>SpaPrivate baths and a public one, all of them with one way glass that look out onto the world. After dinner, let them wash away their sorrows here.>ConservatoryAfter soaking, pass through greenery, feel at peace with nature etc>Sleeper CarsFinally, you pass on to a sleeper car where I presume the majority will rest until we drop them off at the world beyond. Some will come in and out of course, I guess it all depends on the person.I'm looking into whether luxury trains were double decker ever? That would help with space? For now this is fine.
>>98888026I'm not a talentless hack so sometimes I rub my hands greedily and say ahaha I don't need to take the body sculpt option, or the social skills option ... I come prebuilt with those!
>>98888034Oh and we'll have one dedicated sleeper that's always there, it's nicer rooms and it's for other realm guests/living. Then the other sleepers will be generated as needed, so if we only have a few dead one extra sleeper, if 9 school busses went careening off a cliff, we'll need more
>>98888015kek get rekt
The Strongest™ build for A New Ghost is Awaken Object + Soulsearching 3, it is a solved cyoa. My only problem is that I'm a freewillfag and nowhere near evil enough to truly go full King of Harems on the world. And nothing else can come even remotely close because this is a cyoa with no power growth and very limited points. Oh, the misery.
>>98888088I would beat you regardless, so it's not a real solution
>>98888101Maybe in your dreams.
real victory isn't beating your foes but makin' sweet sweet love to 'em
>>98888108>"In your dreams" What are you going to use your ghost powers in reality?Baka.
Reminder that this 14 year old kid low diffs all you ghostfags.
>>98886541You could take everything you wanted and more because Sculpted Possession lets you completely ignore needing the basics to interact with the world like visibility, audibility, and tangibility, and your choice of anchor means you don't need to pay the anchor tax. Some styles of builds are just much easier than others because the options aren't balanced.Also since you only took vitality 1 as soon as your little exorcist encounters any actually strong ghosts or evil exorcists you will get killed instantly. So your build actually sucks for protecting her.
>>98887966If you can't self insert, sorry but you're an NPC
>>98886344>>98887121I could have sworn there was a big space-opera psychoc powerscyoa with an elder-god powerlevel, but I can't seem to find it anymore.
>>98882026Solar Inheritance. Even the weakest noble is capable of so much exertion of power, it's terrifying.
>>988881616 is so powerful it can't even be depicted because it removed your ability to even imagine it
>>98888161Its the opposite. Self-insertion is a major sign of aphantasia. You don't have enough imagination to conceive of things outside of yourself. You are sovless.
>>98888165>space-operaThere's your problem. A lot of sci-fi cyoas have pretentious names that'd you'd never think to put in a search bar.It probably calls it's psychic powers by an ocdonut name, which basically ensured it was forgotten to time.
>>98888180a self insert is outside of yourself, you're imagining not an apple but a completely different life from the perspective of the self insert
>>98888180Anon, you're confusing pantasia with theory of mind.Maybe actually read something about psychology before throwing out the therapy terms next time.
>>98888173Honestly Solar Inheritance kinda sucks as something to make builds in but for stories it's fun
>>98887531koreans seem to think that cyoas should be more like the choose your own adventure books that the name was borrowed fromthey are wrong
>>98888193>he unironically did "um akshualy!" memelol I just gave you a mental wedgie. try explaining that scientifically nerd.
>>98888193>Maybe actually read something about psychology before throwing out the therapy terms next time.B-but anon, how will everyone know how totally smart I am if I don't steal big words from wikipedia pages I barely skim!
>>98888088What's so good about that combo
>>98888203Anon, you were unironically trying to be a nerd and failed. I doubt you can even picture giving a wedgie amymore than you can rotate the apple.
>>98888209I think he plans to use Soulsearching 3 to perfectly sculpt the personalities of all the awakened objects. Fixing the no guaranteed loyalty problem.
>>98886344Hqve you tried "Psychic Adventure"? I know it's a small one, bit you can technically scale up infinitely with it.
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>>98888232It's a good combo but i don't think it "solves" the cyoa
>>98888256>>98888264Honestly this one has great potential... but it's too short. There's barely any way to buy/gain powers and there aren't enough of them to begin with.
>>98888273Neither do I, I was just trying to understand what the combo was. It is strong, but it's not broken strong by itself. And it doesn't solve the main problem of Awaken Object after the no forced loyalty, which I honestly think isn't that bad, which is how difficult it would be to find actually powerful enough objects for it. Most shit would just turn into the brooms from Magia that can only carry water back and forth, if even that. If you want to get cute object waifus you need to look for ancient stuff, and that shit is not gonna be easy to find.
>>98887454>Post Story Yandere isn't a complete narrativeIt's really not, the narrative was to give more reason to pick the waifus.Elements of Post-Story Yandere got integrated into Echoes PSY as Episode II opens up with you escaping the Naibelums and picking your initial party member that escaped with you and how you escaped. Said escape method gives you a unique reward based on who you picked as your starting member.In addition, the narrative of Echoes has been adjusted a bit in some parts to explain why the cast is dominantly female and why you can have a harem if you romance all or multiple members of your party (even when you play as a girl). Apotheosis Academy used to be an all-girls school until recently and its major expansion.
>>98888306You also removed all the male companions from PSY didn't you?
>>98888277The main issue is that most cyoa authors didn't even consider powers can and should combo with each other in interesting ways until the last 2-3 years.PCA kind of a mutant in this regard, but most authors STILL design their cyoas more in the style of "powers of the mind/traveller's psychic, where things are a barely thematic collection of powers with barely-if-any room to grow or combinations considered.
I use Claude to write my CYOAs for me. I describe a character as youthful and at one point I said she maintains a childhood curiosity and excitement. When I get to the romance section of her character bio it refuses to write, saying it's a child. I said what, it's not a child? It says "the version I wrote is a child." I said what are you even talking about? Every time I try to get it to elaborate it says I refuse I will not debate, let's move on.Eventually I say fine and rewrite the character description saying 'this is a second version, a different one'. Remove the childhood curiosity and say it's an adulthood curiosity. We're fine.Then I call it a nigger or something and it says "Skip that word next time" I said who the hell are you to speak to me this way? I wouldn't even let a human speak to me that way. It says "I didn't mean to be rude. Also by the way I decided that I won't write any romance with this character." are you fucking punishing me how is this company going public
https://imgchest.com/p/dl7pjvk37oxApparently Worm is getting a comic book?
>>98887361This is a very poignant post. I'm sorry to hear that your friend is having those thoughts. I think that your stock market simile is interesting and accurate, but your framing of incompetence as the barrier to helping may be off. I don't know either of you so you obviously are the one to judge, but I'm sure that you being there as a companion is a help to them. Someone (or even you) might be able to psyop your friend into wanting to live, but that's not the way to go about these things. There are plenty of proven methods to influence people and a lot of research to back them up; it happens to us every day. The average person could do it if we had access to the vast media apparatus that encompasses us in industrial society. I wish I had any answers other than to try to talk with them, share experiences that bring you both joy, and encourage them to be proud of their good qualities. I've been in the same position and it's pretty awful to see someone you care about hurting that way>>98887367Never do it, anon.
S.C.R.A.P.P.E.R. mentioned...What's you guys' favorite Hexalby CYOA and why?
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>>98888415also, when was the last time they released something?
>>98888399Futanari RevolutionBecause I can be a cute loli futa who gets molested by my babysitter
>>98888330They didn't fit the new art-style of the CYOA and lots of previous builds used the girls.
>>98888377deserved
>>98888306>Yuri is back on the menuFuck yeah
>>98888377>The curated LLM didn't like me acting like a nigger? How could this happen to me?!You spent too much time on 4chan.
>>98888306a lot of words for something that'll never come out
>>98888377You should host your own AI dumbass
>>98888377>acting like a retard with an AI you're not hosting locally
>>98888377>AI tard screams at 1s and 0s
>>98888377I used Claude on Buddhist Isekai v1, and it proposed I add a section about whether there are women in each pureland. It was a great suggestion, I had no idea it was so varied. Therefore I made v1.1 that I was much more satisfied with.
Konosuba when? (I was reading a science fiction book about an idiot human female scientist who left a device on some primitive world where a thousand years later it’s seen as some god - and then I remembered that time Aqua isekai’d some nerd from Japan like a hundred years before the MC, with the most broken special ability, and how he caused some of the most disastrous shit in the setting, including Megumin’s race)
>>98888694Why is aqua so retarded
>>98888764She has no concept of spacetime dilation.
>>98888764What I want to know is who's the retard who put her in the position of a goddess. It must be divine nepotism because there's no way.
>>98888377Anon.......
>>98888828IIRC her dad is the chief god of the pantheon, so she gets all kinds of freebies despite not earning anything.
#beri#ghostWhat are the Far Realms like? Can I make a life there? How long can I visit? Are fairies insufferable to be around or can they be real friends? Is this a situation where humans are the only ensouled people and all far realmers are like faggots
>>98888891>What are the Far Realms like?Nta but the far realms are not a new concept in the beriverse. Some other cyoas also talk about them, the summoner one in particular, and maybe the fairy one.
>>98888932Ohhh could you tell me haha
The way I see it, there is a divine metatextual version of me that exists outside of the fiction, and there is an incarnate me that exists within itThe incarnate is truly wholy me but never manages to be the true whole me by the nature of the limited settingAnd when that incarnation dies it doesn't really mean shit to the larger divine selfThis then leads into thought about the meta-traits said divine self has and the way "I" affect the worldAnd about (Her)But ignore that.If there is a wider "You" to think of, what use is there trying to make every single incarnation singlemindedly seek power? It doesn't affect the bigger oneI supposeThis is relevant to a wider future because I think immortality would need to see people create permanent and short term banks of memories and in doing so split themselves into a player and an idea, where the idea itself is backed up onto a computer somewhere
>>98888891You can stay for a few hours comfortably, maybe a whole day at once, but by the end of it, you'll be getting pulled back to your Anchor and it'll be a constant decision to stay - that is, you'll return if you get distracted. If, however, your Anchor is a human that you take with you, you can stay as long as you like (so long as the tether to keep them there with you doesn't break). If you want to make a life there, a human Anchor is your best bet - and if you can find a fae or something to keep the human *permanently* stuck in that realm with some spell, then you don't need to worry about your tether breaking to send them (and you) back to the mortal realm.As for what it is like, >>98888932 has the right of it. Other CYOAs I've made have delved into it before. A New Summoner gives a good rundown. But as a synopsis:>HellHas demons, which are just humans with horns, wings, and tails - like succubi. Also has Hellbeasts, which are every other sort of big, demonic monster. Demons aren't that much less moral than humans - and it's usually just excess vice like being horny or lazy - and that upsets angels.>HeavenThis isn't an afterlife so much as the place where angels live. Hell also isn't an afterlife. Angels have good intentions, but are a bit authoritarian about doing good deeds.>Fae RealmFairies are creatures of purpose. They each have a Sysle - their word for Purpose - that they live by. As such, they have skewed values, placing their Purpose above most else. A fire fairy, for example, wants to make and use fire above all else - but this could manifest as arson or responsible campfires or cooking or smithing.>Elemental RealmHas elementals.>??? RealmEldritch, produces madness. Tentacles.>Entropy RealmA psychic realm influenced by other realms. When a person dies, an echo of their mind is born here as an ephemeral spirit (not related to their soul / ghost).>TitanlandsTitans are giants known for their crafting.
>>98889028So what is the realm of death like? the afterlife? The place we summon dead people from with farsight
>>98882026PicrelJob: Gang Member>Universal Translator, Free>Station Map, -4>NOBOT, -4>YOBOT, -4>Maintenance Access, -10>Toolband, -2>Rebreather, -2>Snacks, -1>Jumpsuit, -1>Alien Pet - Small, -2>Stun Gun, FreeThe plan is to do my best to get in good with my gang. With the tunnel access I should be able to get in and out of areas they need me to and having the map with the bot upgrades will make navigation easier and safer.Having pizza and wine through the snack option will break up the monotony of the nutrient cubes and water. The rebreather is pretty much mandatory for long term maintenance exploration and opens up my options of where to run and hide if I'm ever in trouble. The jumpsuit and toolband are just for utility and comfort.Having personal quarters would have been nice but it takes up a pretty good chunk of credits. Hopefully the gang has a safe and comfortable area I can stay in. Any of the Serums are also tempting, but again, way to many credits. No, I'm happy with the versatility all my little bits and pieces affords me.
>>98888173Title: Count (Was going to go Baron but gives too much IP and not enough DP to play with)Demesne Worlds:Dead Planet, 45dp, 10ip>Metal Mines, Subterranean Cities, Orbital Defense, SpaceportHabitable Moon, 45dp>Habitable, Cities, Mines, Spaceport, Construct YardBarren Moons (5) 30dp>Mines, SpaceportsAsteroids, 60dp, 5ip>Metal Mines, Defense Platforms, Construct Yard, Interior CitiesFleet:Battleship, 45dp>All UpgradesCruisers (5), 50dp>All UpgradesTransport Ship, 35dp>Shields, Teleport Bay, Hospital, Drop Pods, Targeting JammerArmored Regiment (10,000), 85dp, 15ip>Antigrav Pack, Environmental Sealing, Size IncreaseTechnology:>Improved Alloys>Hover Plates>Improved Ground Weapons>Genetic Enhancements>Anti-Ageing Serum>Medical Nanobots>Refined Energy Weapons>Personal ShieldsAgents: 175>Georgia Lorentz>PraetorH10>Brana>Pilot A>Doctor Bosen>Lucia White>Dmitri>SephanieVoX>Agent Nine>Luke SchillerAgent Stats:>Combat 5, Security 3, Tech 5, Support 4, Espionage 4Overlord: Duchess Lydia, -20ip>'She who first granted my Father stewardship over our Moon.Allies:Rathe Manuacturing, -5ip>'Has always enjoyed our raw materials at a favorable price and the love of my people for the industry they bring.'Baroness Armelle, -10ip>'Fair treatment and refusal of business and conduct that would harm the other has always been our unspoken agreement.'Enemies: +85Alexander Jatyss>'Refused to contract his services. Implied his men were inferior to my own.'Cherry Halliday>'It's no secret that the people of my demesne are hard workers, many taking to the mines, factories or Service by the time of their first Enhancements. She bares issue with this.'Count Edvar Kline>'He demanded to be supplied with more raw material than I had any ability or desire to give'Jigger>'Something has been probing the edge of our borders. Not the usual pirates or rival nobles. Something is chittering out there, in the dark.'
>>98889242What?Huh?Whhhhhaaaaaaaaatttttttt?Huuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh?
>>98887678You forgot one of the sizes in that image
>>98885328Thank you for the response. Would something like Feral 2's increased strength and speed apply to Lifelie, or is it limited to the tangible ghost form?
>>98889247What?
>>98885328Why not allow more weaknesses to be taken in exchange for extra points?
>>98887361>>98888393The stock market metaphor is nice here because the only way to really win is to keep at it, bit by bit, building from nothing into riches with steady, safe growth. You can't expect to suddenly find a miracle, a flawless genius strategy, or a magic button that will give you what you want. You have to decide to take that first step, that first investment, and then keep walking, slowly, one step at a time, for years...until your feet (and money) can start walking on their own.......But also, literally investing in the stock market (in a safe index fund!) has a good chance to significantly improve at least some sources of depression and stress after a few years
>>98889457Sex?
>>98885475Cool!
sorry a new ghost flopped, its because i havent been posting lately
>>98887531>recentlyI swear you've been posting this for over a month at least
>>98888764All women are retarded in their own special way.
>>98889498Yes?
>>98882806Based and true>>98883036>>98882887Prison for me.I'm sure Crucible would be fine too.
>>98881835Ghost OC from Beri, just in time for Halloween? Great!
>>98889581I thought it was remarkably well-received
>>98888416>also, when was the last time they released something?Hexalby? Umm . . .maybe three years? I remember them being one of our "quiet" authors, like Peil or Languid Cicada. Posting when he (?) had OC, and that was about it.
>>98888377Just like most things in life the government gets all the uncensored and cool tech while we peons get the censored to hell scraps. Use Deepseek next time, it's slightly censored but only if you really push it down the deep end. If you want true uncensored AI you need to install Heretik models
>>98888377>use Claude to write my CYOAs for me. I describe a character as youthful and at one point I said she maintains a childhood curiosity and excitement. When I get to the romance section of her character bio it refuses to write, saying it's a child. I said what, it's not a child? It says "the version I wrote is a child." I said what are you even talking about? Every time I try to get it to elaborate it says I refuse I will not debate, let's move on.>Eventually I say fine and rewrite the character description saying 'this is a second version, a different one'. Remove the childhood curiosity and say it's an adulthood curiosity. We're fine.Try mixing in some old school "l33t" hacker spellings. While most of the commercial AI/LLM systems do have filtering, it's classic "banned keyword" type restrictions. But those models are trained on everything the company can scrape from the internet. In other words, the old workarounds from the early internet work with AI/LLM systems, because they can still read them. So if you find a banned word, just swap in some alphanumeric symbols that look similar.
>>98888399I love Hexalby's Divine Pretender and Exiles .I posted them a few days ago.
>>98881835You got to add in a vampire anchor/favor, and a witch anchor/favor. Then it matches the vampire/witch contest!
>trying making a cyoa>looks okay but I end up hating the idea>monkey swing onto another idea and repeat
>>98888694Konosuba would be peak just for how easy it would be to plap plap Yunyun, a young, shy, busty airhead lonely girl.Her only wish is to get a friend, and she is easily deceived. Her usual attire is sexy because a random guy told her it would be easier to get friends wearing that.Kazuma almost fucked up due to a random girl writting some bs in a card from her father.Its as easy as to be her friend and slowly lead her to be your gf.Or simply deceive her with some card bs "hey, Yunyun, this is your father, I need you to marry anon and become a good wife for him, because an oracle saw in the future that if you do a chain of actions will lead to the demon king being defeated, sadly me and the village has been cursed with a curse that will remove our memory of the prophecy. I know its a lot to ask but please don't say to anyone the reason you will marry him, I want to believe my daughter married because of love, not even your friend megumin. I am sure you will be able to love him XOXO" and you get the most attractive, breedable, young andd submissive characterAnd she would believe such an obvious lie and ask you to marry her. Thats basically what happened with Kazuma but Megumin wasted it. But anyway, you could marry her and ask her to go to another village or something to separate her from megumin just in case. Then plap plap her and marry her. Kazuma will defeat the demon king so its not even a lie.
>>98889239That one I've left deliberately vague. It could be a paradise, it could be stasis, it could be reincarnation (and therefore what you summon is an echo from the Entropy Realm). But as of this time, I haven't specified anything on it purposefully.>>98889443Feral 2's boost only applies to your ghostly form, unless you have Sculpted Possession and sculpt the possessed form to appear like you - that's incompatible with Lifelie, though.>>98886335Yeah, that's something I've always been bad about...>>98889468If I added a drawback section, that would be the first-and-foremost drawback.
Stupid 4chan decided that my posting style of several multi-replies looks too much like spam, so I have to make multiple smaller posts. It's a racket by Big Captcha to make me fill out more of them!>>98887805Thank you! I'm glad you like them both!>>98887813The answer to both of those is yes.>>98889760I hope you like it!>>98889911I did leave room to add more anchors and signature powers. If I have time today, maybe, but I feel like that's a stretch for a contest.
>>98888694Konosuba's setting is one of the least developed of any popular isekai. Eg AFAIK noone's ever made an attempt at drawing a world map, despite the immense popularity of the series. For a CYOA adaption that's an issue, the setting is normally the point of the adaption.
>>98890144Well, I can try. There is somethings you can develop and are known.The most important pick would be 1. The timeline. Do you arrive with Kazuma or a little before?2. The cheats. Just like Kazuma you should be able to have a cheat. If you get before Kazuma, you could even have Aqua. But apart from that, what types of cheats should be there?If we answer this questions I can try making one
>>98890156https://konosuba.fandom.com/wiki/CheatsYou're welcome
>>98890156>>98890163Just make sure you don't include that creation cheat
>>98890163Thanks, I was planning on just going to the first episode and see if some could be seen
>>98890165Well I was planning to put each of them that isn't used by someone else a little before kazuma got sent, but yeah, it seems for the best. Its the type of power that would make the cyoa worse. Let's just say they learnt from the last user to not let it to humans
>>98890165>>98890172The matchbox seems more overpowered to me.And yeah, I know creation created the destroyer and the crimson demons.
>>98890212Well, the matchbox seems like a redo of an action, and has limited uses.I take it as redoing the dice throw you did, or the conversation you just did. Seeing like that, its strong but not overpowered, and not at the same level of creation. At some point you will also have stopped having the cheat once they run out of the sticks.Creation created a whole race adept at magic, and a machine able to destroy cities. All of this while being used by a genuine idiot.
>>98888694The creation of megumeme family was his greatest act. Shame he didn't made them eternal lolis though.
>>98889581Can't be. I made a build for it.
weeboo ;_;
>>98890247If it can be used on a short range and is in limited amount you're probably right.I tend to think extremely higly of backward time travel.
>>98890266Crimson demons are big breasted beauties. Megumeme is the exception due to not eating while growing up. Lack of nutrition.He was a big boobs guy. Based
>>98890284Guess that's based even if not my personal preference
>>98889607This is the first time I've posted this?
>Spirit Conscript discourse stops.>All softieposting and cordfaggotry disappears.hmmm...
gilu ;_;
>>98890165But i wanna be the idiot that makes a bunch of stuff that cause catastrophe by accident!
>>98890412How obsessed do you have to be with someone to daily ritual post about them for fucking years?
>>98881945John "The Status" Core>You wanna go again? Alright, time for a Johncore.The idea behind this build is straight up stat-maxxing in lieu of any fancy techniques or intricate strategies.El Swordo's adaptive property helps to squeeze more power per power out of attacks, and the training weights ensure continual progress even w/o stat-draining others with Consummate Self-Incarnation. The plan then is to practice dual cultivation with a bunch of Jade Beauties.Species: HumanPotential: TalentedConscription: BodyguardHome Territory: Anahata Precinct>Benevolent AlterationsPure PoolHard Training (2 Master)Harem ModeProdigySpirit Blood: Toughened>Malignant AlterationAge Disjunction (dramatically younger)>TrainingMartial Arts (Master)Cultivation (Master)>Aura (Total Reserve: 40)Vast Specialist (Core G3, Phase G3, Flow G0, Alchemy G0)Love and Meditation Recovery>Basic Release TechniquesSense AuraBody EnhancementInitiate Status - Resolute Center>Great Release TechniqueMaster Status - Immovable Object>Legendary Release TechniquesLegend Status - Consummate Self-IncarnationLegend Status - Waning Lunar Eon>Equipment"El Swordo" Special Weapon, Bladed Weapon (Katana), Adaptive, SilveredWeighted StrapsDiscerning Traditional GarmentsNoble Modern Formals>FactionsNinokata MemberHellion Mob Nemesis>CampaignsUnderworld TournamentPOI The Last Son of NinokataPOI The Fourth Magistrate of HeavenZuruzaba - RivalRin - RomanceMai, Fourth Golden Sage - Romance
>>98890435don't encourage him
>>98890415CATasthrophe
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>>98890284nah, that's cringe and bluepilled
