Previous: >>98893079RIP(some packs for Stewart's estate) edition>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>tqWhat's the last precon you bought?
Someone gave me a walmart digital giftcard and I found Bello's precon on their site for 40 dollars, so I bought it.
Im a yum yucker
Post your favorite basics. Im partial to core set basics.
>>98897732
UNBAN MY ZESTY ELF!
>>98897709>>98897712Yes anon, as I showed in my picture it is meant for sideways loading, that's what the thumb recesses are for, to grab the whole sideways deck at once.Loading it stacked like you showed is possible, but the way the lid opens makes that hazardous to the top cards depending on how they've moved around in transport.Kek.
>>98897732This in foil is my favorite.
>>98897673>TQ The last one I brought was the Elves from Middle Earth I think.>>98897732I'm partial to the Ixalan basics
>>98897732depends on the deck, I do like original zendikar full arts, like the tipped bowl island, or the camps on the cliffside mountain, but for some decks I just try to go with singleton art regular as basics from across the oldest sets I have so no two in any given deck are the same. A planeswalker is supposed to draw mana from different lands, not the same one over and over.
>>98897460My LGS cannot shift UB stock, and WotC sends them less UW as a result as if their sales across the board are below expectations (they're not, UW sells like hotcakes)It's just insane. There is a faction within WotC that is pushing UB, refuses to listen to backlash against UB, and openly lies to shareholders about its success
>>98897732Im working on getting 10 of each of these basics. I have 6 Plains, 2 Islands, 2 Swamps, 10 Mountains, And 3 Forests
This thread is going to be filled with anons bitching about UB ad infinitum isn't it?
>>98897732>yeah I'm that dudebut I was obsessed with these back in 2010. I had even contacted Ron Spears if he was going to do reprints of the entire island/swamp piece but I think he said it wasn't up to him or something >>98897753very cool. I got the two parallel tree-swamp 7th edition foil from one of the dudes I play with a couple months ago. real cool stuff>>98897190that is fake news. look at the boxes pictured. the current formulation of UP Eclipses dont split like that. you're literally talking about what dragon shields dodragon shields are all warped and fucked up out of the box very often, random ass dents in them, pieces of shit. and they split just by looking at themeclipse lasts a long time, you get 8 extras per box (it says 5 but I've gotten 8 out of all of them), shuffle good, feel great. the only downside is they dull foils which I will take that over not getting enough sleeves to sleeve a deck after the 3rd replacement box, and then them splitting before the first night with them is over. even katana's are not so great, and the current KMC's are not the greatest. no idea about double sleeving or whatever the fuck that craziness is, one sleeve is already retarded but works well for mixing in beat up cards + new + gold border/30th anniversary cards
>>98897732Easy
>>98897834It's the new (you) farm after proxy shit flinging started getting dimishing returns
>>98897732Most old borders will do. I tend to like Mirage's set of plains and forests the best, but Tempest and Urza's Block have better islands.
>>98897873God I'm not ready for Wotc to rape jamuraa with their wakanda bullshit
>>viashino and cephalid creature types get put out to pasture>Star Trek introduces a billion new creature types that will only ever be populated populated by 1-2 creatures
>>98897673>What's the last precon you bought?- All of the foundations decks all together.- why ? felt good, and considered them to be lendables at the table.
>>98897890>viashino and cephalid get buffed by being given access to lizard and octopus support>this is bad actually
>>98897907vulcans and romulans and maybe betazoids should be elvesklingons should be orcsferengi should be dwarves or goblinsbajorans should be back in the camps
>>98897732This island is probably my favorite. I also really like the basics from original mirrodin and the two basics that Larry MacDougall did in shadowmoor were also great and looked spooky as fuck.
>>98897923kino>>98897732tempest and the arena-only snow covered lands
>>98897936these arena-only ones too
>>98897673>tqlast 2 pre cons I bought were the calling all angels pre con to have a pre-con on hand for low power randos. although I added stuff like Baneslayer Angel, Radiant archangel, new Lyra, Serra the Benevolent planeswalker, Pearl Medallion, Path, Archaeomancer's, Tithe (the visions land tutor) holy day, wrath of god and monologue tax to it. I pub stumped a father and son a few days ago with it on accident with it though so maybe it's still too powerful. or the pre-cons are just really good I guess. there was only 1 card I had changed out on the battlefield even. the other recent one I got maybe 5 months ago was the Tidus FFX deck which is pretty awesome too. used the cards to make 3 different decks. the green cards are ballin in my Kwia Vigorbloom deckI wanted to get the liberty prime fallout deck but I think it will be cheaper to buy the singles from that deck than anything because theres a lot of trash in it. I think thats the one with nuka cola vending machine and I dont care about that card at all, its going to be lots of MH3 energy sloppa using all sorts of bulk with ETB energy creation to fuel Lib-Prihalf of the revolving cast of dudes I play commander with bought the reality frac precon and I haven't brought myself to do it. most of the cards are actually kind of just novel trash. dack is cancer. the angel would be not fun in the angel's precon for the power level I have it at. wanted the white black Niv for a deck but I already have a fun black white deck and theres not really any good cards like Lab Man in white or black to benefit from it. black avacyn isnt my style. 4. color jace is also cancerous. no green is completely gimped and retarded. need to take out the weakest link color which in commander is red. I would legit like to see a 4 color commander that red blue black and green though. and although white is my main bag, the other colors cover pretty much everything else as far as board states go.
>>98897673I think the recent red/white strixhaven one was the most recent I grabbed. Was thinking of doing a low power spirit deck with it.
>>98897950it's actually a kino deck
>>98897884It's gonna hurt. Mirage was so soulful. http://blog.killgold.fish/2015/04/an-interview-with-sue-ann-harkey-magics.html
>>98896837 >>98896981I've always done higher-mana-cost-on-bottom-goes-first, how do you do it?
>>98897747That's pretty cute
>>98897907You're right humans should be buffed into the ape creature type, Dragons should be buffed into lizards, everything that swims should be buffed into fish.
I wonder if the tifa fag knows his queen got dethroned
One of my biggest regrets about losing my collecting from back in the day was losing my tempest swampsAnd my memory jar and invoke prejudice
>>98897999That would imply she was ever on the throne to begin with.
>>98897999You know Fynn came out in Kaldheim in 2021, right? Right?
>>98897991Crucible of Fire being usable on a real tribe would be pretty interesting.
>>98898005You can get the swamps back pretty cheap at least. The other two are niche meme cards in this format at least.
>>98897906A bought 3 of the precons, the green one because it was the most popular of the 5 and the white and black ones because I wanted zombie and angel staples.
>>98897834It's hilarious that they've given up all pretense of supporting their dead antiUB hug box and just come in here to cry and cope. If they had any brains at all they'd understand a movement built on bad vibes and pissbabying will have zero legs or staying power.
>>98897673RIP.
>>98897834Here's a simple thought, maybe UB could fuck off and there'd be nothing to complain about?
I like how goofy looking this guy looks, is a deck built around it any good is it one of those cards that people couldn’t be fucked with using?
>>98897919>>98897890And that won't matter in large part because they've finally figured out to include generic creature types for tribal based cards that may want to run them.
>>98898042I thought this was a meme, like corey harrison dying, but no, he really died.Damn
>>98898045You are brown.
>>98898047He's simic and he likes lands and/or manadorks with counters on them. You can make him work and you can even make him quite good, there's just so many simic commanders that do that sort of thing but better/easier to build around so he's not very common.
>>98898015Damn so he's been undefeated for that long? Based.
>>98898045Anon, you have your shelter thread. Why are you here? Why are you not in your promised land? UB is part of magic, like it or not. If you don't want to see it, why aren't you in the place where you won't have to?
>>98898056Nah I'm white because I can control my consumerist impulses. How bout you anon?
The Star Trek set is so bad it's killed Chekov AND Picard.
>>98898072>UB is part of magic, like it or not.YWNBAMS
>>98897978I dont understand what you are asking>>98898051the face of sloppa. ironic the gay telekinetic X-man dies the same day pReddit announces its essentially going bot-only
>>98898079WotC are printing them. Don't know what to tell you.Again, why are you here exposing yourself to the thing you hate?
>>98898084>WotC are printing them.Lol I bet you're the kind of guy who thinks citizenship should be based on paper too.A mouse born in a stable is not a horse.
>>98898090You don't need to prove you are an idiot, you've done enough already.
>>98898052this should have been alien
>PATRICK STEWART DIED? I CAN'T WAIT TO INVEST!
>>98898073mtg is a consumerist hobby made by white men
>>98898078Trek is unironically better than FRA and Lorwyn. One of the best sets of the year.
>>98898084I was here first UB is forcing itself upon me this is crossover rape
>>98898108>mtg is a consumerist hobbyAHAHAHAAAAAHow's those "investments" buddy?
>>98898095You can call him names but you can't call him wrong
>>98898113my friend refuses to let go of his LED and Grim Monolith and he always grins whenever i ask him that :)
>>98898111Green doesn't deserve more good cards.
>>98898090>A mouse born in a stable is not a horse.a horse not born in a stable is still a horsewotc cardboard depicting (insert IP here) is still wotc cardboard>>98898121you're both wrong, very much so
>>98898122It's only theoretically worth money until he sells it and neither of those cards move much
>>98897732I'm coming back after a long time and the full card lands in a lot of sets are gorgeous, but the Mirroden plains are what I think of when I think of mtg lands
>>98898134>a horse not born in a stable is still a horseBut that's not what he asked dipshit
>>98897673oh that's really unfortunate timing
>>98898152>A mouse born in a stable is not a horse.why bring up the stable then? idiotyou could just say, 'a mouse is not a horse', but no, you have to inject the stable as if it has anything to do with fucking shitfor 'a mouse born in a stable is not a horse' to mean anything the reverse 'a horse not born in a stable is still a horse' must also apply, but naturally you can't accept that because it btfo your little narrative
>>98898139>It's only theoretically worth money until he sells it and neither of those cards move muchthat's quite literally how investments workso yes, my friend is doing just finehe also likes UB
>>98898153Actually incredibly fortunate if you're WotC and just printed a serialized Patrick Stewart signature card. May legit be one of the last things he ever signedNow I'm not saying that the Star Trek set was receiving mixed responses and MaRo killed Patrick Stewart to raise the value of the chase card for scalpers, but I'm not ruling it out either
>>98898125There's goodies for all colors in this set. The whole "SET IS SHIT" hysteria is seethe that UB continues to deliver good sets.
>>98898161The defining attribute of a Magic set is not who printed it. It is defined by what it is. Your quenchy turtle marvel slop nostalgia wank will never be a Magic set because Magic is not other IPs.
>>98898167the autograph is blank implying that you'd go get it signed by him in person.
>>98898177Literal troon level mental gymnastics. Antiubfags are totally, utterly mindbroken simpletons.
>Neelix is just a green pridemateDammit, I wanted to build child tribal.
>>98898185>NOOOOO REFUSING TO BELIEVE THINGS CANNOT BE SOMETHING THEY'RE NOT IS TROON LOGIC ACTUALLYLmao it's you that thinks a 3rd party IP can be a Magic set if WotC put the Magic logo on it. Presumably you also believe a tranny is a woman if their passport says so?
>>98898185No you don't understand if I make a custom card that says "If you lose the game, you win the game twice instead." it's a real Magic card if I put Urza's mech suit in the art.
ubfags don't actually have any opinions of their own, and that certainly includes the ubfags in these threads. they'll just say and argue the opposite of whoever they're arguing with forevermore, no matter how contradictory or insane their 'beliefs' tend to be.
I played for the first time in twenty years today. We did our precons because our customs aren't ready yet and it was 1v1 after the other guy bailed so not the ideal setup for commander especially since these two decks don't mesh well at all. I lost like seven games before calling it most by turn 9 or 10. I was playing the elemental deck which had the issue I figured it would where the mana support was not sufficient to cast its big expensive elementals quickly, and the additional problem of having basically no flying, whilst the dragon precon sets up a dozen buff flying monsters before you blink three times. Onto slivers!
>>98898199Neck yourself gaybolasfag
>>98898171weak bait
>>98898208>the mana support was not sufficient to cast its big expensive elementals quickly??? The whole point is you play Ashling and then cast your elementals for 4But yes the mana base in that deck is an insult. WotC are absolute shysters about printing decent lands. They know they're a bottleneck that everybody needs to instead of just printing them into the dirt like they should, they iterate on dual lands that enter tapped under various circumstances, and the best of those are worth between $5-$10 so you won't see them in most precons.I have the elementals deck and instead they just give you a green ramp package, it's garbage.If you want to upgraded it, you need to completely gut the lands, and then be adding cards like Urza's Incubator and Animar Soul of Elements, not cheap
>>98898215>truths I don't like are bait!There's plenty of good new cards in Trek for lots of colors and deck archetypes. If you actually don't think so you're either a malding antiub retard or a retard with card evaluation skills. Either way you're a retard.
Found some remnants of the old planechase boros deck in a box and it has inspired me to build general ferrous rokiric wish me luck fellas
>>98898225Oy vey such antisemitism printed by Wizards of the Coast
I do hope he's at least getting paid to do it. Because then there's a reason to shit up a general for so long, you know? I mean it doesn't make you any less of a terrible person, doing something bad for money, but at least that's a REASON. If he's just doing it to shit up a general for the sake of it then that's way sadder.
>>98898171Why are you getting so excited over a random bulk mythic from Amonkhet?
>>98898244>I do hope he's at least getting paid to do it. Because then there's a reason to shit up a general for so long, you know?ProUBgaybolasfag? He has janny protection. Literally just a couple threads ago he got a bunch of posts mass deleted for talking about him
>>98898219 Horde of Notions worked way better for me as a commander.
>>98898225>There's goodies for all colors in this set>posts a reprintvery weak bait
>>98898185Only one Behir card in MTG and its a damn Mill SorceryWhere is my 4/4 Blue/Red Trample Haste beast with Prowess
>>98898225I hate having to hope someone makes a better proxy for cards.
>>98898111I wouldn't go that far...it looks like it has a couple ok cards but the spaceships are wack, lots of weird random tribal that will be stuck to this one set. like most of the non-high fantasy UB (like FF, LOTR/Hobbit) there will be a handful of stand out cards from Trek and thats it. >>98898125this has been debunked. as shown by red's blue-balled rampant growth (that should have went in reality frac but instead got Maro'd and then slotted in to TREK) green is to stay dominant while red stays unplayable (or playable but a losing color). blue has had nothing great or breaking printed for it really and is still great. white got some cool stuff recently, another wannabe Soul Sister/Stepmom hybrid, tutors for legendary creatures + p-walkers between hobbit & reality frac. plus the hottest card of the year Splendor bookcover replacing Smo-Tithe (when that gets banned) and giving a mana sink/card drawblack like blue needs no help they just keep owning the way they do. and even the best new multicolor cards are either green white or blue white. red drags down green hardcore and black completely carries red/black combos. my fav color combo used to be red blue black but red holds it back so much it makes unplayable if you want to play your actual spells. and dont have to worry about a vandal blast or austere command wiping out "all muh mana rocks"
>>98898288It's a pump card
>>98898319is this a fun card? how much do people hate you for playing it?
>>98898257I'd be surprised by that. With Ashling on paper, if you're shitting out the elementals, the token copy comes with haste. So you get value from a double ETB, and then you smack someone with a 7/7 or whatever it is.I dunno man. Worked in my pod is all I can say.But also, like i said, the deck wants gutting anyway, I'd recommended Cloudshift, Ephemerate, and Reanimate in there too. That's 3 one mana spells that will let you keep your elementals so you actually create a board presence.I also hit on this secret tech as soon as the deck was announced, pic related. 3 black is a bit annoying to make if your mana base isn't very well put together, but basically you can reduce the cost of your elementals by a further 2 and make zombies to build a board presence because the templating of the card does not say that the creature has to die to the enchantment effect for a zombie to be made.>evoke with Ashling>Sibsig reduces it from 4 to 2>cast resolves>elemental enters>Sibsig trigger goes on the stack>put the evoke ETB and sacrifice trigger above that so it resolves first>elemental sacrifices itself>Ashling triggers, you get a copy>THEN Sibsig resolves>there is nothing to destroy but you still get the zombieIf you reduce the cost of evoking elementals to 0 there's infinite loops you can do with Greenwarden of Murasa
>>98898144Beat me to it, I put one of the razor grass plains in every white deck.
>>98898107Lmao a Quartering wojak, about damn time.
>>98898324People generally enjoy it honestly. Don't even play Niggathrond. I only run exile mill to pump him, horror tribal, a bit of flicker and goodstuff. Usually end up oneshotting through commander damage or flinging Umbris via Rite of Consumption. I think if you tell people it isn't a mill deck and there is just incidental exile mill as means to an end they don't care that much.
new card for kwia deck!!!! life gain bros eating GOOOD this year "infirmary"Whenever a creature you control enters, you gain 1 life.At the beginning of the battle of your turn, target one creature you are controlling. Put +1/+1 counter on top of it. X is the value of adding 1 to the total of life you got in this turn, etc.________flavor text:Shii. The second lieutenants of the space corps continue to challenge their limits and find new injuries.I'm coming.
>>98898355Also get to run cool shit like this
>>98898337>I PULLED A PICARD SIGNATURE CARD! I LOVE YOU DAD!!!
For all the anons who hate universes beyond but want to use the cards mechanically, show me how you'd fix themhttps://maker.abyssproxyshop.com/
>>98898389Has that site patched their version of PHP?
>>98898384>there goes my son putting his gay x-man card in his bike chain, like how I did with my holofoil charizard card in 1999...some things never change
Can monowhite humans or knights be tier 3+? I really want to make one of those decks but don't want it to be bracket 1 sloppa
>>98898384>Listen guys, my dead dad would’ve wanted me to have this MTG Star Trek collectors box. Pwease buy my coffee so that I may pay for my blind dogs seizure meds that I totally won’t consume myself!
>>98897732Innistrad Remastered has some nice ones. The art was always good but I prefer old borders for the vibe.
>>98898391How would I know that?
>>98898395if you have any semblance of a plan to win the game you are in bracket 2 there are lots of powerful human cards in white. some may consider their powers... gamechanging.aside from that, white has plenty of good cards and catchup ramp that will be on 99% of the time because people can't stop playing green. it's hard to compete in bracket 3+ with pure aggro unless you're playing an absurdly busted aggro tribe or list or something, and i don't think humans or knights qualify. but as white you can play some incredibly busted cards to make up for your shortcomings and keep on swinging until you win
>>98898395Nah you gotta splash a little bit of green in there for the busted stuff anon. Mono white is cancer unless you play an actually good tribe or hate the people you’re playing with so you spam stax.
>>98898405I wish they had the balls to print the "tap: add mana to your mana pool" text instead of the big symbol on some of these. They've done some nice old border ones in recent years.
>>98898413Yeah exactly. The internet has turned into a minefield anon.
>>98898389I wish magic would still occasionally take quotes from the Bible or Shakespeare.
>>98898428I'll be honest I've got enough to worry about in life without being paranoid about that. I'll survive.
>>98898404What a mess. The Professor won. Even if his kid is half chinese, that's more children than Hamplanet will ever have
>>98898430sts2 fan art?
>>98898439Don't know actually, just found on Google images
>>98897732This in foil is my all time fave
>>98898441Not quit, I had to look it up.
>>98898430>quotes from the Bible or Shakespeare>on a fucking children’s playing cardIt was a cringe larp when they did it back then and it’s still a cringe larp now.
>>98898395>HumansYour options are Greymond and Adeline. You're missing a lot strong human support in GW so you're fighting with one hand tied behind your back to start with and your only reward is are two mediocre commander choices. Not impossible but not doing yourself any favors ether.>KnightsYour options are Dion, Kwende, and Adeline again. This is a lot worse. Knights are a really bad tribe in general even with a solid eminence commander printed for them in Esper. In mono white you have no Haakon lines, you have no aristocrat stuff, you have minimal equipment specific knights, and you have no graveyard action. Sauceless and dead in the water god help your soul if you try this in bracket 3.Soliders are much more capable as monowhite than ether of these and actually has commanders good enough to be worth forgoing the multicolor route (Myrel and Darien)
>>98898430>mtg used to put lines from paradise lost on the cards>now the only emotion allowed is marvel snarkinessGod this game has turned retarded
>>98898462nah
>>98898462Larping as what? It's referencing the most widely known piece of literature in the world.
>>98898462>>98898471the duality of MTG
>>98898476The second most, the first being My Diary Desu
>like 26 of the bant precon lands come into play tapped or very likely will come into play tappedlmao
>>98897732oh man looking this stuff up is a trip down memory lane.
>>98898485Oh shucks, that's so hard to deal with in green
>>98898485>describes literally every precon ever>”eh.. take that UB chuds!”
>>98898497Why are you acting stupid?
>>98898495oh that's coolAw man I can't stay in this thread I'm just racking up more cards to collect.
>>98897732Vagina Mountain best Mountain.
>>98898471You cannot make me believe that the game this card came from and the one that made "infinite diversity" or "the naked time" are the same.
>>98898437I'm mixed on the professor, he's got some good opinions and some solid standards for reviewing non-card products (stretch test on sleeves is A+), his general purpose deckbuilding and play advice is great, but he's a sellout, take the video where he expresses his disappointment with universes beyond where he constantly hedges his personal negative feelings with positive reinforcement to anyone who likes or buys UB and how he clearly has too much investment in his algorithm income from the video series.Very mixed messaging and a serious need to sort the wheat from the chaff with his content.
>>98898532Do you see why we lament the game, and the people that got into it with UB just say we're "angry chud neckbeards"
>>98898532Why do those two cards bother you?
>>98898476The quran?
So, you have any decks without Sol Ring in them? Why?
>>98898552There's literally no reason not to include a one drop for two mana, no matter what retarded youtubers say. Arcsiggy on the other hand is a deck by deck basis
>>98898532The natural conclusions of the market dispel the notion that the object of your values would have ever belonged to anyone but the lowest common denominator.
>>98898395my squall black/white knights is "bracket 3" because it has smothering tithe and farewell. I can't remember what the "3rd game changer is" but it has some "borderline" cards like Grim Tutor, Gleaming Splendor, Land Tax...Black Market Connections (a lot of people seem to think BMC is on the game changer list? there will be a dude every 2-3 weeks who insists on looking it up, not that it matters but just weather it is or not)mono white could be even better but you'll help on draw. make sure to be able to recur stuff like FOUR KNOCKS from the graveyard to keep having a white phyrexian arena. you'll need all the help you can get on card draw. gleaming splendor will be a must. what I run in my deck is really like nearly 70/30 white to black. Put Mirrormind Crown (pic rel) on Knight Exemplar, and then have ways to make tokens like "Recruitment Drive". each of those tokens will instead be knight exemplars. I also like Sigiled Sword of Valeron which makes a new knight token each combat. really will only have to worry about either A: other white players Farewelling/Final Judgement/Sunfall (mass exile wipe) orB: black players doing some mass -x/-x thing, toxic deluge of course but theres other effects, stacking. Like the black owl from Bloomburrow or night of soul's betrayalso I would run anthems: glorious anthem, honor of the pure and of course Crusade (5th edition one if you play with faggots). Arkenstone another good one that helps bolster card draw. I put Crusade in the new mono white Angels pre-con and it works great. also dont sleep on the protection knights. OG w knight of course I'm sure is a given, protection from black but Paladin en-vec has protection from red. Mirran Crusader protection from IIRC, black & green. theres something in every color. theres also Paladins of each direction that I think either gives protection from colors or counter spells of that color by tapping them. Order of the Sacred torch? I run the black one in mine
>>98898532look who they've hired. the whole well is poisoned. parasite has overtaken its host. it will need to be completely flushed out to return to sanity. starting with fucking mark homo rosewater and his crusty ass design. get that fucker the fuck out. Garfield stepped out, I'd say even early. and came back to help stuff. he has dignity and is really a genius game-maker. Maro has worn the fuck out his welcome and his cast of faggots and clowns need to go with him
>>98898540Part what drew me into magic as a kid was the setting of Ravnica as that was my first set. The art, the guilds, the lore, all vibrant and unique. I liked going back to older sets like Alara, Mirrodin, Kamigawa or Lorwyn and seeing how Magic approched different settings. All different but all Magic. If the settings and art and lore were all lame and gay I wouldn't have bothered. If my first experience was playing commander with someone playing SpongeBob instead of playing my Selesnya precon against friends I wouldn't have stayed.
>>98898597Cool. What drew me into playing a game was the gameplay.
>>98898599Bullshit, the gameplay is math homework.
>>98898558Yeah that's fair. There's the idea that sol ring is an artifact and i've got nothing that cares about artifacts, and i'm focusing more on land ramp and such and such, and i've even got multiple Collector Ouphe effects in the deck, but none of that really matters in the face of the sheer power of sol ring. Signet and other mana rocks were easy cuts from the deck though.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98898607Why in gods name would I be playing a game for artwork? I can load up my PC or phone and scroll through a gallery for that. What insane mindset is that shit?
>>98898599You say that like it's mutually exclusive. If I didn't enjoy magic mechanically I never would have stayed, but what made me fall in love with it to begin with was the flavor. If all the cards were blank text boxes written in comic sans on a white sheet how many people do you think would even try it?
>>98898612it's a combination of the art, the lore and how those together tell a story through the math.It's no one thing in a vacuum, it is the combination of the three that is more than the sum of those parts.
>>98898620The thing that matters to a game is gameplay. Go open an art gallery
>>98898356I really need to fix up my Kwia deck
>>98897834I was right
>>98898552I don't run sol rings in decks where a turn 1 sol ring isn't all that useful.
>>98898599>>98898627What a soulless way to live.
>>98897673Right... I confess. Im crying like a little boy...a main piece of my childhood is gone.
>>98898563con't....3rd game changer is the one ring. you need that card draw. and its flavorful. but I'd buy gleaming splendor over the one ring if you've got a budget at all. also take advantage of the MDFC lands, don't sleep on Witch Enchanter. there's also a complete wipe on the back of one, (all non land permanents). is called like Ondu Dindu or something. I would put in an enlightened tutor before the one ring, in mine I have black tutors but white it will be useful. consider being able to respond basically at instant speed, Seal of Cleansing & Echoverse Fulcrum are ways to pull removal/wipes with E-Toot. Idyllic tutor is another non GC way to get enchantments. tutoring for answers may seem ghey but it's what ups the power level. all the white catchup ramp is important. knight of the white orchid is obvious + land tax, TITHE (from visions), weathered wayfarer, Kor carto, archeomancer's map, deep gnome terramancer, scholar of new horizons, gift of estates + colorless ones like Pony Boy, wayfarer's baubleI'd probably go: 1. knight of the white orchid2. pick either: A. Land tax B. Gift of Estates C + Tithe3. either A. Archaeomancer's Map or B. Deep Gnome4. Kor Cartographer5. troop of ponies + wayfarer's baublethen if you still want more, as a bonus theres scholar of the new horizons, keeper of the accord, SAD ROBT, burnished hart (not a fan personally), armillary sphere, expedition map....
>>98898627let's see your deck of plain slips of paper with card effects written in pen, let's see how your collection has not a single treasured foil, alternate art or full art land.
>>98897673>What's the last precon you bought?I bought all 4 of the trek precons.
>>98898629even no game changers in it, it mogs the table. have well of lost dreams in it to sink the Lotus tokens. keep something like restoration magic or heroic intervention in hand at all times. Kwia's best friend should be step-sister of runes well keeps you from stalling out and a board full of lotus' becoming a target. essentially you're converting making a lotus token each turn into "draw 3 cards" (or 6 if your running token doublers, which I haven't even bothered with its already so good...activate a life gain effect on each players turn, either authority of the consuls or soul sisters or whenever you've got...)other than playing against something blue just countering everything you try and do, the whole table has to team up to take you down
forgot>pic rel
>>98897673>TQKnights vs. Dragons, it really called back to the thematic heart of the fantasy genre, but for years before and ever after I've been rather unimpressed with preconstructed decks.the Dragon half could use tuning, but given it's age I can never quite bring myself to modify it.
>>98897732I love this island so much I got a signed playmat of it. I use them in my Pauper Faeries deck and a few in my mono-blue Kami deck.
Post a card you think is cool for aesthetics or flavor
>>98898732thats very cool. they used that art in 8th/9th edition right? I'm pretty sure I randomly got a foil (so black border. modern frame) island with that art a couple months ago. great stuff.
>>98898743>3 mana gain 10 lifeAmazing this was in the same set with git probe, mental misstep, and surgical extraction.
>>98898743I so regret giving this away
>>98897732Original ones are the best.The ones I _hate_ are ones where the name of the card doesn't match what the art depicts. Like the Ravnica "islands" that are just fountains and other shit like that. If the card's called island, you draw an island. It's that simple.
>>98897732The SNC fullarts are the best set of basics in a very long timeInvasion are my favorite but even I tire of seeing them in every deck
>>98898743Only Phyrexian Negator is coming to mind for now. I mostly just deal in "good cards" for what's in my memory so most soulful cards are out of my mind, but negator is incredibly fucking chad. Tempting Wurm as well, but that's more for mechanics I suppose.
>>98897742I always associate these lands with zoomers who have no taste
>>98898743
>>98898552I didn't put it in my group hug. Even with those decks people flip their shit when they see the early sol ring. I have my commander as a one drop anyways.
TqI love these decks
>>98898627If this was true youd have moved on to exclusively playing chess, or even pax pamir/terra mystica/hansa tectonica etc.
>>98898795I like these better than the new mono colored and wish they had done the other pairings instead. Now the og brawl decks, those were an intro product worth purchasing. A shock in every deck, fucking smothering, what were they smoking?
>>98898536>I'm mixed on the professor,I'm not, he's a retard but it's funny to dunk on Scambly as his career collapses and the supposed millionaire attempts to grift off his dead father and dying dog to reimburse him for World Series tickets>some good opinionsHis opinions aren't always his own. His tranny editor (literally goes by @tiddypills) writes some of his scripts and he's said as much, especially if he's discussing formats he doesn't play.I watched a lot of his box opening videos and his card evaluation skills are dogshit. They're so bad I used to get into arguments on this board about whether he was deliberately giving shit takes to bait interaction. He judges cards like some boomer who hasn't played in 10 years, and consistently 10x's the value>he constantly hedges his personal negative feelingsTerminal leftoidism. If you frequent social circles where being criticized is about the worst thing that can happen to a person and no culture is superior to another because everything is relative, then no matter how well founded your opinions are they can only ever be "opinions" in the pejorative sense and must give way to other opinions even if those opinions are not as well founded. In such cases a person with strong opinions will second-guess themselves and begin to believe their opinions are more subjective than they are.UB is a pretty good test case for this because there's plenty of reasons to hate UB because of what it has done to this game and what the long-term consequences will be for Magic, whereas there's only 2 reasons to like UB>I like this IP>I like this card effectUltimately just about every Magic "influencer" has prioritized a good relationship with WotC and feeling important by getting official spoilers to release over having any sort of integrity. If the Professor had just declared his channel would not cover UB it'd probably have made waves, but he cracks UB collector booster boxes and grumbles instead
>>98898767>the best set of basics in a very long timeIt's actually the Theros nebula ones, but okay
>>98898849The broccoli forest? What's wrong with you?
Made some changes to cats, hopefully now that my wife doesn't have to kill her own cats to draw cards, she won't go hellbent every game by turn 6
>>98898893You just look at these and think "hell yeah, that's magical" in a way most full arts do not manage
>>98898906>cats deck for wife>contains Aura ShardsOkay CGB
>>98898917Well I agree but only about the island
>>98898111They knew this set would struggle so they made a bunch of broken ass cards to make people at least go for them.
>>98898919Idk what that abbreviation means but I assume based on you complaining about basic removal that its some youtuber with terrible takes
>>98898932No its a youtuber who obsesses over playing control and literally said he built his wife's first commander deck (years ago) and it was selesnya cats and it had Aura Shards in it but he took it out because she would feel mean actually using it and either take too long to decide what to destroy or just not destroy anything making it not worth running
>>98898923How about the SOS lands? They scratch a similar itch for me, but I wish the students in each frame were smaller and easier to ignore
>gets so bigI love him. Have a brawn in the yard and watch out!
for me, its this for islands
>>98897732always happy to share my fav kamigawa lands
>>98898962based
>>98897946these were rare full arts from unstable. I have 5 of these swamps
>>98898962Forests are always the most aesthetic land
>>98898962when I signed up for MTGO in 2010 these were what the Card Hoarder Free Bot was giving away so you could get free lands. I hated the look of the islands especiallybut now I have a few smattered throughout a couple decks, like a mountain and the plains with the sunbeams. I think I actually have a foil of a 10th edition swamp that is from Kamigawa? or something similar im not sure.
>>98898917I am a simple guy, I enjoy these in Theros god decks.
>>98898981I think the gods were cool
>>98898938He sounds like a bitch to me, this is the first time in 15 years anyone complained to me about fucking aura shards lol What, did he also take out quasali slingers and Feline Sovereign too?
>>98898951Ok JarradJust put down the lord of extinctionWe don't want to hurt you we just want to talk
>>98898945Idk still look too much like energy to me, which I'm personally fine with using for what its worth
>>98898932Ding ding dingGot it in one
>>98898972For me it's>Forests > Plains > Islands >>>> Swamps >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MountainsReal mountains are beautiful and lush. But Magic insists on depicting every mountain as an ugly barren red rock so they usually suck ass.
>>98899071>Real mountains are beautiful and lush. But Magic insists on depicting every mountain as an ugly barren red rockThis is based actually. Basic art should match the color of mana they produce as closely as possible, that's why wheat field Plains will always be the best
>>98899085I disagree
>>98899071Snow-covered mountain.
woah some cool retro frame Star Trek cards just dropped
>>98899133big if true
>>98898842I used to generally like the guy until I watched a few of his WhatNot streams (I wanted to win some free booster boxes that he was giving away, sue me) and when you put him in front of a live camera it becomes painfully obvious that he's a complete moron that can only sound smart when he has a script that someone else wrote to read from
>>98898917I'd like them if the type bar were lowered to cover up the godawful black trademark bar on the bottom, ive never ever liked the cards aesthetic since that was introduced.
>>98899138Somebody wrote "gullible" on the ceiling above your head, you should check it out.
kek
>>98899071> Magic insists on depicting every mountain as an ugly barren red rock so they usually suck ass.The Bob Ross mountains are my favorite for this exact reason. It's a shame they're $5-6 each. Some of the original Lorwyn mountains have a bit of greenery too.
>>98899219Lushest Lorwyn mountain for comparison
>>98899219all those bob ross land money goes to the jews who "partnered with him" and basically forced him on his death bed to sell his & his late wive's shares of the Bob Ross Company to them. its actually their daughter now who runs it and she intentionally doesnt throw a bone to Ross' family. truly evil scum
>>98899224some of those were going for 10¢ at one of the LGS' near me. couldn't be bothered. did get another one of those mountains, nostalgia from when I started playing
>>98899228I won't feel bad for proxying them then
>>98898906you should swap kodama's reach for nature's lore. farseek is good for plains but having a 2 cost land tutor instead of 2 that cost 3 I think will help you out more. I like the inclusion of Tithe, it's a deep cut. I got a gold bordered one as one of the mod's to the new mono white Angel's pre-con. I would even say add rampant growth + nature's lore. NL good because it's a forest that comes in untapped but rampant growth lets you grab a plains. if you've got a few duals of any type (be it a real or not Savannah, or temple garden, canopy vista, etc)I also recommend the new vigor bloom charm. one of the best charms in a long time I'd say. protects your commander, draws a card + life gain trigger, buffs a creature/kills someone elses'. whats not to like?I really like what you've got going on here though. I've been wanting to make a Rin and Seri deck, no one in my revolving pod of commander players has one. but I'm pretty sure it's a common one in general. but Kwia (green white) has become my new favorite deck so there's some good ideas to look over here. I had considered hunter's insight but haven't tried it yet.
>>98899257I look like and do this, that, and that other thing too.
The flavour text on this card makes me seethe. It's not clever, it's not interesting, it's just nothing. A literal nothing statement. Two different gods are different. Amazing, brilliant work.
>>98899206World is a cynical place innit?
>>98899263this has been debunked >pic rel
Does white have the most 1C 5CI commanders?
>>98899290theros was the start of the decline of magic's quality and having competent people working in house. later in 2014 we got the god awful nu-modern border with all the black empty space at the bottom of the card that has now been the longest ever and worst ever card frame in magic history.
>>98899319>god awful nu-modern border with all the black empty spaceNostalgia boomer. Your art IQ is too low to understand there was already "empty space" on the old cards and they looked significantly worse because of the texture of the frame
>>98899319theros was the definitive hat set codifier
>>98899324>theros was the definitive hat set codifierYou tried this bait literal years ago. I even have the screencap of when we asked AI about the definition of hat sets
>>98899330So why is Outlaw At Thunder Junction a "hat-set", but Ravnica isn't? Ravnica was all about gothic horror
>>98899330Too bad. Theros is a hat set.
>>98899336I said Ravnica, I meant Innistrad
>>98899336>>988993391. Gothic horror was first and foremost a literary genre. Dracula, Frankenstein, Lovecraft, that's what Innistrad was based on. OTJ is based very specifically on Westerns as a movie genre. There's a difference of about 60-90 real world years for the origins there.>inb4 "nah uhhhh da wild west was weal so akshually OTJ was based on dat an not moobis!!!!!!"I will simply tap the sign pic related: >>988981522. Innistrad didn't involve characters from other planes visiting and dressing up in costumes. You cannot justify Queen Marchesa visiting another plane and dressing like a common outlaw and taking part in heists other than it being what hat sets compel characters to do
>>98899345Well sure but your second point literally doesn't even happenR-right...
>>98899346???otj-220-marchesa-dealer-of-death.pngAnyway, in hindsight I think we can all see now that the purpose of the hat set was to soft-release sets based on movies so that when UB became 50% of all sets it would feel less jarring.Fundamentally it was about intent. Innistrad was not intended to make UB more palatable, OTJ absolutely fucking was.
>>98898225why is there more booba in the star trek cards compared to in universe sets?
>>98899378>HOLY FUCK CURVES? ON CARDBOARD!? IM GONNA COOOOOOOOOM! MARO TAKE ALL MY MONEY!!!!God I wish the crooked windmill people hadn't ruined the concept of eugenics.
>>98899330The "problem" anon is trying and failing to articulate is just top down vs bottom up set design. Innistrad and Theros were both top down sets where they started with the flavor of a gothic and greek plane and came up with the mechanics afterwards.
>>98899323its objectively better retard
I asked the other day if it was a good idea to build pic related but people replied madness was not getting support since it was too difficult for new people and replaced it with the mayhem mechanic which is supposed to be similar but i find it to be more like flashback instead.
>>98899386There's nothing wrong with top down if the intent is right.Gothic horror and greek myth are essentially folklore now. There's nothing "hat set"-y about that anymore than Lorwyn would be a fucking hat set. Public domain stories and concepts have always been an aspect of Magic.Hat sets were something completely different. It was about more contemporary tropes, usually inspired by cinema specifically, and involving characters from other planes engaging with those tropes.The name "hat set" probably wouldn't even have stuck if it weren't for the fact that characters would appear on a plane and then have a one-off adventure in costume. Cowboys, detectives, 80s horror movie protagonists and so on. If they'd kept their own identity when visiting these worlds and the adventure they went on was less tropey, people probably would have had to find some other way to describe their feelings about it.
>>98898743SS is just an all around fun card and its OP, and based Seb art
>>98897673>Captain Picard>Mono-Whiteweird, I've always believed that if you had to put him as an MTG card, he'd be Azorius mana value 3 with two Iconic Abilities>Engage!>Make it so, Number 1for what these would do, I'm deep enough in the TNG lore but surely someone would know what to make of them
>>98897800While nobody can ultimately say anything about real sales since we don't have the stats, this exact same thing has happened in three LGSs in my city (big city in yurop), as the owners told me. They're trying to dump their TMNT and spiderman, but barely anyone wants them. Even FF, which had a big initial demand, didn't square up to supply and has died down, so I'm told
>>98899405Madness already has enough support. I don't know what anyone's basis for saying Mayhem has replaced Madness is. Just like Surveil didn't replace Scry even though in most situations you'd rather surveilYou can build a Madness deck just fine. Maybe there won't be many new cards coming up for it, but you don't care about that if you've already built it.Madness isn't that complex it's just slightly fucky. I can see why someone would say Mayhem is meant to simplify Madness, because the card goes to grave and sits there until cast from grave at a time the card could otherwise be cast. That's slightly simpler, and it gives "leaves the grave" triggers to bootMadness is just that as part of discarding the card you put it in exile and then cast it from exile immediately. Because other card effects make you discard, sometimes it can feel unintuitive to sort of stop what you're doing and cast a spell which might be ignoring timing rules.It's not any more complex than sacrificing a creature to pay a cost and resolving the death of the creature before resolving the effect it died to pay for though
>>98899423The bubble must burst. No one is saying that UB doesn't sell to retailers and distributors, but demonstrably supply outweighs demand when it comes to customers and players.Someone in this thread or the previous one said that Hasbro doesn't have customer sales records, but they absolutely do from WPNs. Other retailers can also attempt to send stock back if it doesn't sell. So Hasbro knows that their "record sales" are essentially a con of tricking others into holding the bagThe longer it goes on, the more ill-will builds up in the community. No one likes being lied to, and no one likes watching a company lie to its shareholders to enable themselves to chase profit even further. The more WotC pushes UB in hopes of striking gold while ignoring player dissatisfaction, the more the game gets hollowed out.No good can come from forgetting that their "product" is a game first and foremost.
they'll never print new madness cards, never print new ninjutsu cards, SAD!
>>98899387Blergh I vomit all over the thread. It's like that part of the frame is a lost child in the mall. No idea where it or why, looking for something to anchor itself to.Drawing attention to how jank the transition between textures is, thin black text overlaying multiple different colors. It's just not in service of anything. It's why they filled it in with black. This is essentially already negative space but uglier. It's distracting and with no real purpose. Better just to unify it with a block of black so it's less distracting
>>98899440ninjutsu will probably come back in kamigawa next year.However i don't think madness is coming in any new set unless it's a special set like modern/vintage master
>>98898842I like Andrea Menguccu because he's a leftoid but didn't give in to that. He openly badmouths commander and UB without the "uwuu just my options" hugbox addenda
>>98897732I really like some of the Tenth Edition stuff.
Is it hypocritical that I am fine with Universes Beyond in Commander format, but it bothers me in Standard format? My argument is that for Commander format, Universes Beyond is "opt in", you choose to make your deck, and choose with no consequence because it is a casual format. In Standard, you have to play the netdeck, even if it contains Universes Beyond cards, unless you "opt out" and make an objectively worse deck and get worse game-results.Does that make sense? Or is it schizo-ramblings? Please let me know. Have a nice day.
>>98899531Nah it makes sense. I'm staunchly anti UB but at least in commander you can build a playgroup of like minded players and "opt out" of it as you say. The very nature of standard, pauper, modern etc doesn't allow for that since you go to the tourney and encounter everything in the wild, you can't opt out
My jank is much better than yours. Bleeding edge jank, if you will. There is also flavour, yes much flavour, but it is usually bitter. God DAMN I love "may" triggers.
Is there any reason a b3 deck wouldn't want the one ring? Genuinely asking. $100 staple lol
>>98899789Yes. You could be doing something stronger in context. Or you could be running hate for artifacts.
>>98898389I made this for an anon a few threads back but I don't know if he ever used it.
>>98899830That's dope
>>98898906Remove the equipment sub theme buddy. It's not worth it.
>>98899830It would be so easy for all the UB cards to just be normal. Why can't you just be normal UB?!
>>98899257Thanks! And I was thinking the same thing, somehow these are the only ramp spells I could find, I'm sure my adhd ass stuck the rest in a pile somewhere. I've got a vigor bloom presumably in that same pileLast version played only 6 ramp spells, looking at the curve I could see why I thought that might work but the 5 drops, while not numerous aren't bombs like they are in some decks, they are the >take your medicineportion of the deck
Holy cow, did wankzards really print this?
>>98899901>diversity>90% indians
>>98899323No he's rightI started in m15 so I have no nostalgia for the modern borderI do go out of my way to get printings that aren't the m15 border because the sleek Iphone design (read ugly, pseudo-futuristic and wasteful) clashes with the aesthetic of the rest of the game
>>98899448>you see class, where there are clear dividing lines and spaces>we need to replace them the them with oblong curves >remember everything, including fantasy art, is going to look like startrek 2009 in the future so we may as well get started
>>98899866Your poor card analysis has been noted and discarded appropriatelyAhrabo is a power matters deck not a go wide deck
With all these new warriors from the Star Trek set should I build Zurgo or Najeela?
Are the alt art secondary commanders only in collector boosters? I just saw old man Kor and I need him.
Any good infinite green mana sinks in Junk? Finale of Devastation doesnt do it for me.
>>98900117Junk?
0% cat?
>>98900117Try Genesis Wave I guess?
>>98899531It says more about the format than about you.
>>98900144Nah it needs to end the game outright, or be hella cheap. I have Deathknell Kami in there right now because I think it's neat, but it's not good, and it fits with the whole hatebears aristocrats thing I'm doing.>>98900124Brother. Abzan? Idk what it's called now, Indatha? Fucking wbg.
>>98898687>>98898684listo?
>>98899531I remember getting recommended a video about it but the problem with UB is that it is accelerating magic just having yugioh archetype style design but with a set rotation and the cards potentially being much more expensiveweve had multiple ubs that are recycling a very specific card type (lesson, arguably spacecraft though it only started existing within standard right now anyway, likely arcane in the next marvel set) but making it into a fully supported thing rather than a gimmick with a specific interactionand every in universe set is either adding generic value or a mechanic that's only intended for and balanced for use in the limited play of the set itselfso while magic isn't making new 1 card combos every set and adding them to nostalgia slop, it's coin flipping every new mechanic being a viable strategy that seldom cares about stuff in other sets or is designed to acknowledge it (see how many self-cost reducing elementals were released after sunderflock)Avatar being the most cancerous UB set despite going under the radar for "fitting in" as long as you ignore the faux anime designs is entirely because it decided to mimic actual mtg mechanics and revamp a card type that wasn't supposed to get good cards with good cards, and it along with the Vivi blunder is also probably going to prevent future UB from doing anything unique or flavorful that isn't just power creeping existing stuff or "balancing" older cards to make the set feel more mtg aligned, see the fucking artifact with scapeshift taped on when that effect has nothing to do with the thing depicted in the card
>>98899789
>>98900117>infinite manaWell you are already soulless so just put staff of dom in and call it a dat>>98900124lol newfriend
>>98899789UB card. Too much value for binder fodder tier decks
>>98900133Star Trek is at least for me the best set of the year based on this one card. Are you guys seeing this artwork?
>>98900155oh if you have B in there why not spare a black pip or two for Exansanguinate or Torment of Hailfire
>>98900155You mean Necra?
>>98900185Staff of domination doesnt do what you think it does, low power homunculus-sama. Having infinite mana but nothing to do with it is worse than having no mana at all. I just didnt know if there was anything more convienent than what I was already doing, which is the threateningly named Kami.>>98900200I guess, but here's the rub: I'm running a lot of rule of law effects. I can get creatures on the field around them, but I was trying to keep things compact. If I was going to torment or exanguinate, I might as well small finale for like a part of the aristocrats combo. I was hoping for a creature with an activated ability for various esoteric reasons.>>98900206Yes, actually.
>>98900216>junk hatebears aristocrat stax combo with infinite green mana and nothing to do with it that wants activated abilities
>>98900216oh creature abilities, try these I guess?Hydra BroodmasterMirror EntityWaker of the Wilds
>>98899900yeah every time I want to cut ramp spells even relatively weak ones like Steve or rampant growth I end up playing and getting hands with no ramp and playing everything on curve, or not having enough mana held up for interaction...and hey late game it helps pay commander tax so it is what it is. >>98899789theres other card draw that doesn't kill you as fast, or other "game changer" cards that are also good. >>98899512thats from OG ravnica fyi (but yes is very dope). it was like a few posts above someone was saying they liked the kamigawa lands, I forgot that one of the swamps I liked from 10th ed. is actually kamigawa. >>98899423sounds like extreme bullshit. anywhere where regular final fantasy boosters show up in stock in person they are gone by the end of the day. at least in the states where we actually got many of the FF games. maybe its just less popular over there I dunno. but Europe has had every FF game for a long time now>>98900159llanowar elves, fyndhorn elves, avacyn's pilgrim, birds of paradise, sol ring, arcane signet, Giver of Runes, Four Knocks, Well of Lost Dreams, Heroic Intervention, Vigorbloom Charm, Bloombrute, Soul Warden, Soul's Attendant....think of anything in green or white that would be good to support a big beefy commander that can make a lotus on each players turn the first time you gain life. and will probably long outlive everyone (so dont sleep on combat phases)I dont have aetherflux in mine but you could go in that direction as well
>>98900251>>98900264Fuck. Well, time to spill the beans I guess. This is what I'm doing. Ignore the manabase, I'm going to pimp it out when I get time. >https://moxfield.com/decks/SBZSnJHYo0ijA2lO2k3azgMonstrosity wont work on an enchantment, I just checked the oracle. Mirror entity will work, but some combo lines wont actually do anything because the things dont have haste. Really, I'm thinking about cutting Devoted Druid altogether for a land or hapatra yawgmoth or some shit, but I know if I think hard enough there is something that will make it worthwhile.The deck is psychotic because it's all about turning hatebears into enchantments then plowing house with normal aristocrats stuff. The solemnity broodmoth boromir shit is nice, and Avacyn I THINK is quite spicy because boneman is a may trigger. I built it because my brother is entering a tournament, and he asked me for something prisony and insane; as the demonic entity he consults for power, I tried to oblige.
Magic night blogpost>one-lander hand>has flayer husk to ninjutsu early into a Yuffie to steal an early mana rock>Donatello to copy my artifacts >Dowsing Dagger for ramp>Buster Sword to curve into off the Dowsing Dagger mana>greed keep>draw for turn>no land but I've still got a turn>crack fetch, surveil>mill nonland>miss land drop on second turn>no second land drop til turn 4>but a ninjutsu'd yuffie lets me steal a mana rock off Davros>yuffie immediately gets edicted by Davros player I stole the rock from so I lose it>turn 5 get 3rd land drop and play commander>Syr Konrad player edicts it for no other value>by the time I've recovered a semblance of a board I've eaten 15 commander from the Davros player repeatedly swinging at me to farm triggers>the Syr Konrad player randomly wipes the board and my life total tanks>Davros player Blood for the Blood Gods and I end up dying to aoeIt's my own fault for the terrible game, but god I did not expect to eat shit from TWO edicts. It didn't help that the fourth player was a saga Vorinclex "Phyrexian Tribal" theme deck vs. three bracket 3s. The Davros player was the only other competent player at the table. Inexplicably Syr Konrad lost with 12+ mana, Mindcrank, Meathook Massacre and a Grim Servant tutor. He absolutely deserved to be punished for not putting more focus on the Konrad in any other circumstance.
>>98900422TL;DR (statement, not query)
>>98899830you can drop the ugly alt name marker that gets in the way of the art. Wizards did it for their official UW proxies
It's sad to see the current state of edge. UB truly destroyed this game. Last time I played was one year ago, too bad I'm too attached to my decks to sell it
>>98900446That makes it a functionally identical card, not an alt name, one allows you to include multiples, the other does not.IE; krenko's command = dragon fodder.
this is a pretty good card i think
>>98900018G-Guys?
>>98900422All this said, I'm looking for a hipster ninjutsu commander if anyone's got any recs. I own a planeswalker Kaito I've never gotten to use, so preferably dimir at minimum.
>>98900603he's not really hipster
>>98900637He's not really a ninjutsu commander despite saying ninjutsu either.
>>98900458No. The =SLD at the bottom of the card followed my the number makes it the same card from a rules perspective. They primarily did this with the Street Fighter and Stranger Things secret lairs. But you still can't include extra copies based on that, because they count as the same card.
>>98900643here's a good one then it's never been done before
Forest on forest violence
>>98900603Phenax
>>98899423>exact same thing has happened in three LGSs in my city (big city in yuropName them then and we can easily confirm this for ourselves instead of taking your 'trust me bro' anecdotes at face value
>>98900018The Star Trek warrior cards are a better fit for Zurgo since there's lots of scarifice and token making, but it really doesn't matter they're all good for warrior decks.
>>98898732My favorite island too.
>>98900739Thanks senpai
i think it's pretty hilarious that dranith magistrate was printed in Ikoria to combat companions but with the companion errata he no longer does anything against companions at all
>old dude dies>wotc suits rub their hands together and salivate at the amount of money this is going to make them.I know people who are going to buy 3 times what they were originally because of this.
>>98900804wrong he was printed to sell product by giving commander players another chase card like Kinnan
>Spiderman? Marvel? Avatar?! These all break the setting.>STARTREK?! 40k REPRINTS?! My wallet and dick are ready I hate my friends
>>98900822Lolno. No one even thought it was good for a long ass time.
>>98900913No one cares. You don't have friends.
>>98900977patrick stewart was overhyped and merely a good actor.
>>98899336No you're thinking about Innistrad being Twilight hat set.
>>98900977Nice projection
>>98900178Those are called "set gimmicks" and WotC has been doing those since OG Mirrodin.
>>98900977But you're my friend?
>>98898389The most difficult part of these are so many UB cards have incredibly shitty and specific creature types but I tried.
>>98901049
>>98900913reminder that every ub hater is one set away from becoming an ub enjoyer.
>>98900133*paws at you*I play Windswept Heath and make 2 officers*paws at you*I activate Windswept Heath to get Hallowed Fountain and make 2 officers*paws at you*I play Windswept Heath from my graveyard and make 2 officers*paws at you*I crack Windswept Health to get Stomping Ground and make 2 officers*paws at you*I cast Rawr of Resistance, giving my officers haste
>>98901060Not him but that's bullshit. They've already done franchises I love like LOTR and Avatar TLA but I still hate UB.
>>98899405Do you want to play Anje or 'madness'? Because the power play is she's one of the best commanders to churn through your deck for worldgorger/animate dead, you just never cast any of the madness cards
>>98901065Did you know that Dan Burros, a neo-nazi and KKK member, was a jew? The moment his group found out he did an hero.We understand that you need to keep up appearances. We also all hate UB here. Totally.
>>98901094I mean, this might be the worst this thread has ever been, at least the worst it's been in like 14 years, so I wouldnt get too smug, Gavin.
>>98901100Always remember: You are a part of it.
>>98901094Is it really so difficult to believe that I think it's more interesting for things to be seperate entities and don't want every game I play to turn into Ready Player One?https://youtu.be/UCHJwu7ozwo
>>98901103Not recently, no. Which is a bit of a change. Usually yes, but I've been on haitus. I slunk back within the past week.
>>98901112NTA but>I slunk back in for the UB releasethat's not helping your position.
>>98901111>I don't want itMuch like sex in Epstein island, you're getting it whether you want it or not.
>>98901100There's been 60+ plus posts pissbabying about UB in this thread. Sure a lot of it is samefagging (and some trolling), but still, that's almost 20% of the thread space taken up by offtopic bullshit. Meanwhile the actual thread dedicated to actually hating UB that the original creator BEGGED the jannies to stop deleting for being a useless spam general has gotten a whopping 12 posts total in the same time period and is a dead zone currently teetering on archiving with only 1xx posts to its name.This is the COMMANDER general. It's for talking about COMMANDER, not for crying and dilating all day every day about Wizard's 3rd party brand partnerships. If you don't like Chekov's art or you think his mechanics don't fit the character and want to complain about that, fine - but if you don't like the fact Chekov and Star Trek are in the game at all and you complain about that you're an off topic spamming faggot. You annoying faggots have a general already, we're all well aware of how much of a butthurt manchild you all are about this is no longer being the heckin wholesome basedarino Christian game with only lame wizards IP characters in it that it was in 1997 (30 years ago). We don't need 20% of every fucking COMMANDER thread dedicated to off topic pissbabying about something 99% of the playerbase doesn't care about and which Wizards sure as fuck doesn't care about.
>>98901065>Two of the most LARPed IPs MtG has done
>>98901142TRVTH NUKE
>put totem armor into scryfall>no results>not even correcting it to the woke approved oracle namefix your shit
>>98899830I remember you, based
>>98901142>Sure a lot of it is samefagging (and some trolling),Well obviously there's a good amount of trolling there, because people can never resist replying to it.
>>98899405I fucking love Madness, it's the shithttps://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/marchesamadnessmonarchy/
>>98899512I play that Land, it's gorgeous
There's so much>NOOOOOO NEVER EVER COMPLAIN ABOUT UB EAT THE SLOP PIGGYposting itt I'd almost believe there are literal paid bots or Indian shills.
>>98901142>Sure a lot of it is samefagging (and some trollingOr people just don't like it.
KINO
With full trk and trc spoilers out, we have all the cards for the year.Fun facts for 2026>Only 3 monks were printed>2/3 were blue>1/3 was legendary>0/3 were monk lordsOverall, the year fucking sucked.
>>98899405this 1-Drop fucks
I am worried about actually having to decide how many of these my deck will need. Is there an easy way to calculate that does not involve an online tool?
>>98901185I think it's fine to complain about it but every thread it's just the same argument over and over again with the same card art and same screencaps. Why do you think anons wouldn't say something when the majority of threads in a general is just dedicated to bitching and griping about the same shit everyday?
>>98901210pshht, hey Kid!Wanna buy some Magic?
>>98900287>thats from OG ravnicaOh that explains why I had remembered seeing that plains and that general land theme with a different symbol once. I really like this set of large city basics.
>>98897732For all five types, it's this block hands down.
>>98901226But I'm also partial to these three specific full arts.
>>98899405Hear me out:I discard Call to the Netherworld, Bloodhall Priest and Fiery Temper
threads dead. i cant post images. someone bake new
>>98900422Never take the one land hand.
>>989012392-3 lands and a 2 mana spell, ideally a rock or tutor.Bare minimum, at least as far as generic advice can go, anything different must be deck specific.
>>98901230That Mountain is phenomenal, vibes well with Akoum Refuge
>>98901249I'll take it for anything, but it's one of those things that used to be cheap and ubiquitous and is now expensive and hard to find in good quantity, one of many reasons to just have proxies printed these days.
>>98899405shes very good but I prefer florian the card selection is through through the roof
>>98901239Nah, I know. It was pure greed. It just would've been an excellent hand and I even had a surveil look. Statistically I'm favored to see a land turn 2, with 35 left in the deck post-fetch. Something like 75% of the time if my math's right?
>>98901142You failed to account for one factor: This entire game has a culture of impotently whining while their spending habits are completely divorced from what they say they want. Look at all the retards saying "Wahh bring back blocks it will save the story" when the reality is sets 2 and 3 of a block consistently underperformed and the vast majority of the worst-selling sets of all-time were the result of blocks piling another 2 sets into a setting people were tired of by set 1. Hell, even 2 set "blocks" reserved for special events produced MOM which was a complete disaster. The reason the -UB thread doesn't have anyone posting in it is because the only thing the vast majority of this playerbase does is complain.
>>98901132Why do you think that's why I came back? A new set comes out like every 3 weeks. I came back to post my shrek annecdote.
>>98901142Bruh writing me The Anatomy of Melancholy. I dont discuss UB at all because I do not think about it; the quality of the thread speaks for itself and your behaviour exemplifies my exact complaint.
>>98901339>A new set comes out like every 3 weeksFair enough, I'm more familiar with the pacing of old when blocks existed rather than single sets.
Make Innistrad Great Again
>>98898532HNNNNNGGGGG
>>98901356My brother got me a box of reality fracture, but I havent bought cards since like... MH3, and even then that was just a couple of packs. I didnt even realize that was 2024, which was two years ago holy fuck. I only even hear about trickledown cards in other formats because I dont actively follow it.
>>98901239If I have sol ring plus a mana rock I always keep a 1 lander
>>98899531no. ty for writing this. its my exact problemI dont even mind UB being draftable. But it should've gone straight to Legacy/Modern (maybe).They are so fucking off plan for whatever they THOUGHT would be the sets in standard. Shouldn't have ever changed and delayed rotation. Standard to flourish needs a reasonably paced release and capped set count. No one fucking cares to keep up with Spiderman, Marvel, Hobbit, all while they can't purchase Bloomburrow or EOE to build 60 cardEDH already had proxies and fan builds, UB fits it. I begrudgingly admit it after 5 years, standard? Nope.
>>98901357shut up migga
>>98901393Delightful. That is a great way to get exploded by minimal removal or interaction.
>>98901411>>98901411>>98901411Image limit reached. Come pay your respects to the Nagus in the new thread.
>>98901357God I fucking wish we went back to Innistrad properly.
>>98901199too bad it only works with vampires
>>98901420Nothing to go back to. Wizards destroyed anything interesting in it to make their lamedrazi seem scary
>>98901421Stensia Innkeeper with Instant Speed?
>>98901420Same, brosame
>>98901280I'm not gonna play Anje or Florian UGH I know ..... I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It's just that I'm not gonna play Campaign of Vengeance or Captivating Vampire either is allHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
>>98901226I just now noticed that the new phyrexia lands have all the locations of the artifact lands on them but phyrexianized.
>>98900591Is that Emrakrul she's summoning?
>>98898611Duel Commander is objectively superior to 1v1v1v1
>>98901111wtf did litchi really say this
>>98901210I loved discarding Arclight Phoenix with this in pioneer
>>98901579yeah it's emrakul
>>98901738not bad
