Big green idiots editionPrevious: >>98927091>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: For your most recent deck, post bracket and a picture of your board after turn 5. Show us what your deck can do!
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98931064Hey guys my opponent spent 5 turns ramping and then he played a bomb and won. How can I stop this? It's literally impossible to beat.
You don't think they...?
>>98931064>TQHere's my B3 gitrog stompy after turn 5. I just ramp and sac lands for card draw and then play gigantic 7-8 mana bodies until everyone is dead.
>>98931130>attack with gitrog>sac an 11/11>draw 0 landsI only have bad experience with gitty
>>98931114It's impossible, voltron players have no threat assessment and will roll dice
>>98931166my opponent's actions are always on my mind
>>98931064>Turn 1Forest, tap G to play Exploration, which I use to play Cabaretti Courtyard which I use to bring in another Forest.>Turn 2Everyone is prepped for Tifa to come out, meanwhile I play a Forest, tap GGG to play Ramunap Excavator, which I use to bring another Forest out.>Turn 3I tap GG to play Tifa and wait for a response. None come so I tap GG to play Claim the Kingdom. The I use Ramunap to summon Cabaretti twice for 4 landfall triggers, putting 4 1/1 and 1 indestructible counter on Tifa. I now have 6 forests.>Turn 4I tap GG for Level Up which I put on Tifa (5 1/1 counters now), then another GG for Beorn's Hospitality. I then Ramunap 4 landfall triggers, bringing Tifa up to 126 damage before attacking and 135 total after doubling counters with level up's attack trigger to 18 1/1s while drawing a card. I kick the player with the most interaction to death, but he's tricky and tries to target exile Tifa with Exile when I swing, which I tap my final two GG for Heroic Intervention to stop. He's dead. I have 8 forests.>Turn 5The other two players threw everything they had at me to kill me but it wasn't enough. I attach Sword of the Animist to Tifa (GG+GG), Ramunap Cabaretti once and play a Forest (2+18+1=21x2=42 // 86 // 174 damage). I pre-emptively cast Overprotect (GG // 177) and swing (18+1x2=38+177=215x2=430 total), draw, then holding priority I cast Ram Through (GG) on the other player's 1/1 token, doing 429 damage to player 2 and 415ish damage to Player 1 after blocks. I have 10 forests.At the end of the turn 5 the game is over and I am firmly asked to leave.
>>98931185>holding priority
>>98931268Would you prefer I held your hand?
>>98931274l-lewd
>>98931064>TQ>Opening Hand: Soul Partition, Tender Wildguide, March of the Multitudes, Elegant Parlor, Sunbaked Canyon, Winota Joiner of Forces, and Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire.>T1Draw Elvish Mystic, play Elegant Parlor, surveil 1 find Copperline Gorge, keep it on top.>T2Draw Copperline Gorge, play Copperline Gorge, cast Tender Wildguide.>T3Draw Stomping Grounds, play Sunbaked Canyon, cast Elvish Mystic, pass holding mana for March of the Multitudes or Soul Partition. Cast March X=1 with convoke from both creatures. (Probably casting Soul Partition on something here in a real game)>T4Draw Bloodstained Mire, play Stomping Grounds, cast Winota, attack with the solider token and Tender Wildguide, missing once on the Winota trigger and finding Drannith Magistrate on the second trigger>T5Draw Rally at the Hornburg, play Bloodstained Mire fetching for Sacred Foundry, cast Jetmir, attack with the solider token, Tender Wildguide, Elvish Mystic. Hit Adeline and Recruiter of the Guard off Winota triggers. Finding Doorkeeper Thrull with Recruiter tutor. Options to cast Doorkeeper Thrull for Jetmir's nine creature bonus to try to kill whoever I'm attacking or hold Soul Partition.Random keep. Pretty flimsy to removal with no draw, lucksacked on mana draws to smooth out but probably gets fucked in a real game. I suppose it optimistically kills one person on turn 5 if literally nothing gets interacted with or dies so I've seen worse. There are less aggressive tutor targets than Doorkeeper Thrull if I wanted to try to set up bouncing back after a boardwipe which probably happens after this. Aven Interrupter isn't a terrible tutor idea ether if both of the dorks survive I'd have just enough to cast it and buy myself some time to close out the game.
>>98931185Decklist?
>>98931064Is this TQ supposed to be averages or the Christmas scenario people invent for discussions?
>>98931313Play against some bots on forge. I don't understand why people goldfish like this, at least give yourself some easy targets to smack around.
>>98931064nice >TQ anonb3, not a lot for me, though I'm prepared to start shitting out golems and steal something good with voidwalker
>>98931346I guess the Christmas scenario
Why is this piece of junk so expensive it's literally an actual 6 mana do nothing card
>>98931685Because it's a household name that has the word artifact on it next question
>>98931576Oh then I FTK'd because I opened every ritual and a 9 mana storm card.
Another iteration of Fierce Deity (and other cards that could help cast it).I think Annihilator is more interesting than hexproof or indestructible (but also harder to balance).
I like this card :)
Man, people really do not like stax effects. I played two decks last night and neither of them were really focused around it but I got some guy really fucking tilted with a repeated board wipe from Pestilence in Sahir and then he conceded anf walked away from double discard triggers with Eggman and Valeyard. He could have just let me play a construct (I didn't even have two in hand) but he felt like he had no choice but to discard his whole hand and angrily left the game.
doesnt say that it stays untapped in your untap step
mail day, what did you get anons?
>>98931941which print service was this? What do your cardbacks look like? How do they feel compared to official cards?
I think I'm cooked I can't stop building control or control-adjacent decks. I'm building Xenagos next as a palate cleanser and my mind won't stop wandering to throwing in a bunch of board wipes and shit because the deck needs to commit so little to the board to actually kill people.
>>98931954Printing proxies, you can choose what the cardback looks like and you'll notice a slight difference when handling them compared to real cards
>>98931125chinese food combo
>>98931941That roaming throne
>>98931346Averages. I'm playing in a pod where people have played maybe 2 spells by turn 4, and I'm trying to figure out if that shit is normal.
>>98931981Same thickness at least so they fit into a double sleeved deck without notice?
>>98932041yeah they'll fit no issue
>>98932046Very nice, thank you.
>>98931981That's a dope cardback anon, I keep a copy of Ancient Mew in my wallet at all times since I love it so much.
I bought 2 of the Star Trek decks, ended up enjoying them so much I bought the other 2 today. I just played a precon battle royal of all the Star Trek decks at the LGS this morning. Good times. My phases have been set to fun, and I have been beamed up.
>>98931491Feldon and Chainer are pretty cool. They did a lot of work whenever they'd pop up in the other decks I've played them in. Chainer's effect to grant haste to things has pulled a lot of weight too.
>>98932169Fuck anon, use the fucking spoiler bar, I was just finished eating when I read this disgusting shit.
>>98931941Uggh... all you guys getting your orders before mine!Estimated 6 more days before I get my full deck and I'll upload the whole thing in multiple images to try and maximize clarity.
>>98932250based, can't wait to see it
>>98931941do you actually use those cards in a public setting?
>>98931767Annihilator seems like a bad call. Not only is it not particularly flavorful, but it means that rather than casting Fierce Deity, you're better off just cycling him and then copying him from the graveyard with Link. Hexproof or Indestructible gives more purpose to getting Fierce Diety's power higher and playing it normally, while also serving as a sort of protection effect for Link in a pinch.Also, Lost Son's Fate is probably too cheap there. Sure, Pongify is 1 mana, but it's only a destroy instead of exile, and a 3/3 is a situationally relevant upside. Flashback on top of that is far too much value for what may as well be a no-strings exile effect.
>>98932260Why not nigga?
I love mono colored decks that count their basics. I'm thinking of maybe building Korlash so I can count my basics harder than I've ever counted them before.
>>98932263Because playing at an LGS with strangers while using AI lewd goblin proxies would be embarrassing, no?
>>98931941>that top right gobllin tokenYou aren't beating the pedo allegations with these cards>>98932260I refuse to believe gob plays in public / at an LGS with these. I would accept that maybe he plays in dark basement somewhere, with similarly crusty friends. These cards make Yugioh cards look wholesome.
>>98932279not really, I'm autistic>>98932295What did I do?
>>98932262>you're better off just cycling him and then copying him from the graveyard with Link.That was kinda the point. A raw Fierce Deity is supposed to be the exception.Maybe I'll go back to hexproof. I just think big creature with hexproof was a little too generic. Especially since it doesn't have any special protection in the game. It just does loads of damage. Also, there's already creatures that have protection if Link needs them.
Do you guys think the star trek precons will go down in price in the coming weeks and months?I ask because the foundation ones like tramplesaurus only became even slightly pricier than at launchAt least on cardmarket
>>98931064>TQWent into Forge and played out the turns a couple times. Here's five games in a row I ended up with.
>>98931941Did gobbro do any tokens with the regular Magic borders and stat boxes?
>>98932398
>>98931941
>>98931358I've been too lazy to install it but it would be better for testing.
>>98931941Still feels a little surreal other people are using my proxies to be honest, but they look good.
>>98932474>but they look good
>>98932507I like'em
>>98932474You do good work muh boy.Also, damn, thats a good one. Love your tribal goblinas the most.
I remember hearing somewhere that>playing a Sol Ring on turn 1 ackshually decreases your chances of winning, because you 'paint a target on your back' right from the start.I swear a don't cheat, but recently I have been having insane luck where Sol Ring is always in my opening hand. So I always sandbag turn 1, and play a tap-land (or even "land, go") instead. Sol Ring into Arcane signet waits until turn 2 .
>>98932474Is she another land card?
>>98932540just imagine what Breeding Pool is going to look like given the lewd bar set by the others
>>98932540Not that exact image, but close to it. For Wooded Foothills.
>>98931941I had to look again to realize some of these are official cardsThey all look like custom image proxies to meWizards has sunk low
>>98932572Very nice I'm sure the similar image is just as good, you seem to be very discerning with the prompt results.Still tickled by the dynamite tits prospector.
How about you guys take your pornography discussion to another venue?
>>98932599no
>>98932599What pornography? no genitalia are exposed.Family-friendly city-hosted pride parades are 100x more pornographic.
>>98932599Discussing proxies you are making or buying for your commander decks is infact, on topic.
>>98932585>dynamite tits prospector.wut
>>98932687
All of these ai goblins just look like weird anime/pixar crossbreed humans with green colored skin. If my goblin isn't a weird little freak I do not want it.
>>98932474>>98932694See, what kills it for me is the Elsa Frozen r34 neotenic face. Where's the shnozz?
>>98931941ew ai
>>98932748>Where's the shnozz?Not really into it, simple as.
what happened to that one anon couple thread ago who posted a visible goblin asshole gen
>>98932764fake goblin lover
>>98932769If you say so.
For all the goblins that have been posted in the last 4-5 months this guy's been here spamming his shit there's actually been shockingly little discussion about where goblins are as a tribe in the format right now. How do you feel about them? Do they stack up to the other popular evergreen tribes like Merfolk and Elves?
What are some good places online to discuss Commander?I am thinking (commander youtube personality's) Discord server is a good place to start.I used to post on reddit (yeah, I know) for Commander, but I have become convinced that bot-posters outnumber human-posters on reddit, so that's no-good.A discord with your literal IRL friends you play with would probably be best, but I haven't had that in years.
>>98932776While not being on paper great commanders for tribal decks, the great goblin and auntie ool are very good combo pieces.With armies and all of the stuff from the hobbit they seem like they are in a healthy place right now
>>98932783Everywhere will have its issues. This is no good place to discuss anything online, it's just autism everywhere. 4chan is probably the least worst option.
>>98932776When I think of Goblins in Commander, I think of Krenko. When I think Krenko, I think "too strong for casual, not strong enough for cEDH", and I also think "powerful, but boring and linear". I looked at edhrec to see who some other Goblin Commandos are. Look at the drop-off of number-of-decks at the 2nd place most popular Goblin, lel.
>>98932817zada isn't a goblin commander, zada just happens to use goblins
>>98932817>45.1k krenko decks>apparently only 4.23k of them are goblin tribal decksinterdasting
>>98932833My apologies. I was retarded for using edhrec and I got immediately punished for it.The point stands, I can think of very few Goblin generals outside of Krenko.
>>98932783I chose Auntie Ool over Shattergang or Much Gang because she seems mechanically more fitting to generic goblin tribal in jund, still not "generic" because it opens up options krenko doesnt access.
>>98932842Goblins have a couple decent commanders but people are very married to that original Krenko.
How do I build Zada? Just artifact and token spam?
>>98932859target creature gains haste until end of turn, draw a cardtarget creature gets +1/+0, create a treasure token
>>98932857I love grub.
>>98932905he cute
>>98932534>play all the fetchlands>opponents never attack me first because I technically have the lowest life totalAll according to plan
>>98932851Also going jund opens more combos, like agathas cauldron+krenko+goblin chieftain/warchief+tribute to the world tree (or wild onslaught for non-infinite)
>>98932912He good.Assuming he doesn't die when you copy him it's a free cast, plush just reanimate him.He's really good with her as a bulk rare
>>98932925That kind of thing is why my group usually focuses on hand size when all else relatively equal.
>>98932694can you niggas not play a card game without jacking off to anime drawings
>>98932949no
>>98932925>Play a budget lifegain land>I am attacked by a 7/7 for having the highest lifeI am beginning to think the system doesn't work
>>98932949Can, sure. Dont have to thoughbeit
>>98932925>never attack because you have the lowest life totalAm I missing something here? If you're the weakest then you're the target to be killed
>>98932949You're a fucking pervert.Just because the tits are visually appealing doesn't mean you have to whip your dick out.
>>98932694>About to blow her tits sky highOk, this one is kinda funny.
had a fun game.>Jace precon>except I added more jace>have 6 jaces out not counting jace token, and 3 mana>jace the mind sculpter>jace architect of thought>theorist>multiverse architect>space beleren>jace reawakened>another player farewells at instance speed and teferi's, he's going to win>top deck jace's machinations with theorist>horey shiet>instance speed jace everything>dig, create illusion, brainstorm jace top deck and flip into jace reality sculptor>ult and exile everyone's decks
>>98933085holy zased and jaced
>>98932857You got a list for Grub? I've been meaning to play some goblins since I've built up a lot of bulk of them over the years but never really settled on a home for them. Had considered something jund like Prossh or Korvold . Or maybe Grumgully. But never went through with it.
>>98933050I must jack it whenever I see tits. Impossible it's not true for everyone else
Why would you ever run this garbage?
>>989331095/5 for 2 was pretty good back in the day.
>>98933109that reminds me, I need to get stuff like this for my elda deck
I had a strange dream where I was paying Magic, and my opponent stacked his summoned creatures into a single pile and I got angry at him for it
>>98933109>Play tempting worm>Everyone takes the bait>Cast something that wipes the board
>>98933119anyway here's a picture of my new deck, it's brokkos mutate
>GROWTH IT UP2G/WInstantSplit SecondTarget spell or ability resolves.
>>98933108Some of us have actually had sex before.
>>98933200get out
>>98933200Wrong
>>98933200
Why must we suffer such sloppy slop
>>98933109you play a 2 mana 5/5 they put out three bears
>>98933202>>98933206>>98933208
>>98933200I use gooner proxies and I'm married.You'll stamp your feet and scream it's not true or just suggest I'm a cuck thobeit.
>>98933275I'm the guy ordering the full deck of gobanons stuff.My statement was not about the proxies, it was about the pervert who can't separate tits from jerking off.Real Men can just passively enjoy the sight of the objectified female figure.
>>98933265>can't even post a gifWho's the loser now, loser
>>98933284I figured having it in gif form might be hard for you to process, what with your dick being glued to your hand.
>>98933291Don't worry, Jim Carrey is an attractive guy
>>98931995idk my commander and some rocks with random interaction piece being held up ig.
>>98932943>Get flooded>Attacked by a 7/7 for having 7 cards in hand
Somebody mentioned that this shouldn't be a common. I explained there'll be no distinctive set symbols denoting rarity.I have now decided to change that, if only to give these cards a more official look.
What is the point of running any other izzet spellslinger commander when they are just inferior to Vivi
>saved hyrule from ganon pigfucking everyone>his reward is that his one friend leaves>gets booted to a scary forest>schizophrenic goblin is going to throw the moon at the world because he wants attention>link stops this as well and is turned into a deku nut foreverWhy did Hylia hate Link so much?
>>98933406Not everyone just want to deepthroat edhrec
>>98933406I don't know why but I think she cute and her outfit is cuteMaybe cowboy hats do something to me
>>98933419>in this episode anon explains to his gf how he psyop'd himself into being sexually attracted to cowboy hats because of a card game
>>98933431If your girl isn't willing to put on a cowboy hat and a pair of boots to knock together, she isn't worth being your girl
>>98933431>be really drunk one day>lurking camslut sites>go in private with one>tell her firmly that her cowboy hat stays onI don't even like westerns or cowboys or anything
>>98931064I am amazed how unpopular star trek is at my LGS>all the precons under MSRP>Collector boosters are like 45>most of the pre-release events sold too few tickets to even launchTMNT and Spider-Man were honestly at least twice to three times as popular.
>>98933406Not even the only fun izzet spell slinger in his own set.
>>98933469good. of all the ub sets we got, dr. who and star trek are the worst by far.people dont belong on magic cards.
I want to build pic relatedshould i go full aristocrats build or tokens?
>cards you still play that never do what they are supposed to do
>>98933565Dr who was probably the best of them desu
>>98933469I'm worried about this. I didn't make the prelease yesterday or today, so I'll see what it looks like tomorrow. Friday tickets were sold out on the store's webpage by Thursday afternoon, but today's have been showing in stock all day while the games should still be ongoing. I guess worst case scenario is I just take my six packs tomorrow and crack them for the sake of cracking.
>>98933775I had one scheduled for tomorrow and I don't even know if I want to go. I think there were like 8 sign ups. Standard gets more people than that.
>>98932949>the sight of attractive women immediately sends him into a sex frenzyYou sound like a literal third world rape rat. "She was wearing a skirt and I could not control my horny!" Men of intelligence can appreciate the sensuality of peak female form without immediately having to goon to it retard.
>>98933800I just don't need le sexy female form to enjoy stuff. It has zero impact on my enjoyment of a competition.
>>98933800is this chud slept on?
>>98933805Then why do you care about what are on other people's cards if the game is just a set of mechanics to you?
>>98933815I don't.
>>98933805Agreed, same with le sexy male, that's why Oko is an awful card. Oh wait, Oko is fine to you? Fuck off.
>>98933800if Alela was summoned in front of me then I cannot be held responsible for what happens to her
Building this 2 4 7 thing with Radha, does it forego any 1mana dorks and 2-3 mana rocks/ramp spells, jam all the 4 mana 2-land getters, and then just your choice of 7cmc and up Big Bombs? And then a protection/interaction/draw package to taste with the remaining 15-20 cards
>>98933819Oko is fucking awful. What the fuck are you talking about? He looks like a theme stripper in all his depictions.Of all examples you could have used why is it the waxed dude with no nipples? If that's the level you aspire to you should try having some fucking pride.
>>98933873>male nudity good>female nudity badI'm onto you
>>98933880That's not even close to what I said you reprobate. If the most you're hoping for is to have an entire set of cards that are on par with the weird dude who can't keep his shirt on; you should try fucking harder for your own sake.
>>98933817>I don't care but please stop doing that super awful thing I find objectionable Care or don't care, at least be honest, you asshole.
>Would like all of my lands to be full card lands>would have to give up my cool OG islands and Odyssey plainsWhy must I suffer so
I think this chud is the only think from Star Trek I want, for my mothman counterslop deck. Should be $2 in a month.
>>98933985It's like 4 bucks now.
>>98933798Well the lgs hosting this prerelease has two commander nights a week, no standard events, and I haven't seen any draft scheduled. So prelease is basically the only chance to play non-edh without driving half an hour to a "better"/sweatier store.
>>98933987Is that a lot?
My sliver deck shall have exactly 1 blue sliver.
>>98934085>my 1 blue sliver is my 5c sliver commander
>>98934094multi-color doesn't count
>>98934114winged sliver
>>98934130Scuttling
Hmm maybe I'll just beam me up in my minthara deck>4 cards in color identity white blackwhat's the point of these mechanics in every set that you can't even use
>$1what went wrong
>>98934170
>>98934170Hyperniche tutor that doesn't even put it in your hand is a penny card.
>>98934170There aren't any planeswalkers that were released early enough into the game's lifespan that they had game-warpingly badly-designed mechanics.
https://moxfield.com/decks/bg8N6rkoLEmjwVBObk0JsgThoughts on this deck's vibe?
>>98934204this will be fun exactly once. then you'll become bored out of your mind.
>>98934212I've played a similar deck for dozens? hundreds? of games on arena. Although paper is lacking this KINOGRAPHIC card.
2-4-7 commanders are deadland go 3x - land commander - 7 is the future
>>98934313wtf is a 247 commander
>>98934313skyshroud claim is still better
>>98934317commanders that are ramp/mana dorks that cost 2 and have access to green. For example:>Ruby, Daring Tracker>Radha, Heir to Keld>Susan Foreman>Kellan, Inquisitive ProdigyYou play your commander on turn 2 and then cast a 4 cost ramp spell on turn 3 and then cast a 7 drop on turn 4 and every turn afterwards
>>989343342-4-7 probably works with 4 drop artifacts in blue but I've never done it
>>98934334sounds boring. I cast 3 mana spell leaving 1 open and never use it
>>98934170Planeswalkers aren't very good commander cards and standard is way too fast for to justify a tutor that looks for a 3-6 mana card and doesn't even put it into your hand. If you top deck it when you need to out a board as control it is a button that does nothing. Getting into other older 60 card formats PWs are similarly just outpaced by modern horrors 3 cards or incredibly old design mistakes.
>get babysitter to play prerelease >not enough people show up to fire>go pick up a girl from the college insteadBest hit in the set is like 12 bucks at presale price, set is flopping hard. Plus side is shocks will be 5 or less in a month and I got the singles I wanted for under 10 bucks.
>>98934464I don't remember this bit from MM
I have never played Majora's Mask
>>98934554It's alrightLike all Zelda games, it's a mediocre adventure game propped up by nostalgia from retards that have never played anything other than Nintendo games
>>98934555I guess this sort of thing needs to come with a caveat of which Zelda games if any do you like, as I enjoyed most that I played. Not BotW, however.
>>98934559Out of the ones I've played >ocarinaIt was alright>MMAlso not bad with an interesting tone>phantom hourglassDogshit>wind wakerUnfinished garbage>twilight princessAbsolute wank>link to the pastBoring
>>98934390So you cheated on your wife or something? What the fuck are you talking about?>plus side is shocks will be 5 or less in a month I'll believe it when I see it. Now they need to reprint the shit out of fetches.
>>98934554It's interesting mechanically but its the kind of game that demands you have a strategy guide open on the side to be able to get anywhere without having to take endless notes. And that's just not worth it.
>>98934583https://moxfield.com/search/cards?q=oracletag%3Ashockland
>>98934630>2/10 are $5.5I wouldn't call that shocks being $5 but I appreciate that Star Trek Shocklands are so affordable. People have had a very negative reaction to this set. It has been a fucking peice of shit.
don't use shocksdon't use fetchesuse only basicssimple as
>>98934633>People have had a very negative reaction to this set.Saw this coming the moment they revealed they were doing Star Trek. The franchise has not been good in almost 15 years. Say whenever you want about past UB franchise picks but none of them have been shit quite as long as Trek has. Even over the hill UB franchises like Turtles, Transformers, and Dr. Who have more recently enjoyable pieces of media than Star Trek. Every card for Discovery, Picard, and Strange New Worlds in the set is a stabbing reminder at just how gaped and raped NuTrek is. Cards featuring a bunch of actors in lame cheap TV costumes isn't exciting to anyone not already on board with it. The power level being low is the kiss of death for it.Fuck this lame set. I say this as someone who likes Star Trek well enough. Not buying so much as a damn basic it's total shit.
>>98934668Enterprise was the last series that didn't completely wipe its ass with the whole concept of Star Trek. That series ended 20 years ago then the fucking awful films came out that shat on Star Trek. RIP in peace Star Trek, at least I can still enjoy you as a binge show every few years.
>>98934683the TNG movies came out before enterprise
>>98934697No not those films. Did they even make any Kelvin timeline cards?
>>98934704yes, there's some special guests and a scene box
Damn I guess I'm not as racist as MTG collectors.
>>98934474Not any actual "bit", really. I just liked the art, needed the land, and thought it fit.I can kinda stretch to say it's the room with the gossip stone in the skulltula house in the swamp. I think you could call that a grove.
how the FUCK did those save owls work?>save game at an owl>but the save will be deleted if you don't save if you go back in time before savingwhat teh fug
>>98934721I am sure it is racism and not the UB stuff
if i slap wizard's staff onto this guy and copy his ability, do i exile 2 cards from my graveyard and pseudo-imprint them onto the same creature?
>>98934763it's just a joke but all of the trek special guests are listed at like 10% the cost of other printings
>>98934767I hate this fucking heckin wholesome chungus bullshit of new cards like this, helpful hunter, mrs bramblebloom or whatever that fucking rabbit is calledWhere's the crazy shit like Phyrexia raping people until they become machines
>>98934770what does that have to do with the cat wizard
>>98934772>le heckin wholesome cat wizard>le heckin wholesome brillo pad squirrel>le heckin rabbit citizen
I hate new creature types in these sets
>>98934779wow it's like 40k is a completely soulless, awful, garbage franchise for manchildrenThe fact they claim it's LE GRIMDARK but make children's novels and ban anyone who actually cares about military history says it all
>>98934768It's always like that with the UB reprints.
What would be the top end from let's say an Izzet Big Spells deck at B3? No turn chaining so I'm guessing stuff like Jin Gitaxias, Annihilator Eldrazi, Insurrection, Aminatou's Augury
>>98934554Ocarina of Time eats it's lunch in almost every possible way, but Redditfags managed to meme MM's popularity to where it is early enough to not technically associate MM with Redditors.
Righteous fury murder angel is such a top tier concept.
>>98934822surge to victory
>>98933109it works very well with manifest. I ran it for a bit in my Yarus deck but I ended up cutting him out for hunted troll
>>98934721This art slaps, too bad it's star trek
I watched Star Trek (2009) last night for the first time and it was a really solid movie. I liked it a lot.Do you guys have any specific Star Trek media that you would recommend?
>>98934912This sounds like a question for the television and film board.
>>98934914Oh I am sorry, I will make an on-topic post.YO my goblin breeding-pool has tits and an ass on it, how about that?
>>98934721>try to look up startrek special guests>they are called star datesYou have too much product coming out too fast not to have a unified naming convention
Soon!
What commander will be good for a deck that is literally nothing but creatures and basic lands? No instants, no sorceries, no enchantments, no artifacts. Is this even viable?
>>98934943Look up decks in edhrec that have primal surge
>>98934939I have one of those Stanley cases too! While there are really nice, they are "too much" to bring out to the LGS. I don't want to bring most of my collection to the LGS to play, I only want to bring like 3-4 decks. Also the Stanley doesn't really have space for Playmat, dice, and accoutrements. So my Stanley stays at home, and I carry what I am playing to the LGS in a tote-bag.Just a tangent.I like your decks, but they are from a bit before my time as a Magic player.
>>98934943Prime Speaker Vannifar of course. Creatures can do everything sorceries and instants can do these days and with Vanni you can grab shit on demand.
>>98934956The stanley fits mats really nice is you take out the back row, the dimples on top are what keep the rest of the decks secure so there's no downside
>>98933987I want the specific printing I posted in foil or surge. So gonna wait for it to fall in price.
Boxman here. You know, the guy who made some weird box a couple days or like a week ago. I made a redesign of my box; the new one seems like it'll be way better.Question: what colour should I stain it? Is there anything neat I can do? I'm open to suggestions, but my artistic skills are low. Pictures incoming 1/3.
>>98935107This one has a hinge instead of the cool twisty magnetic opening thing. I had some extra piano hinge, chopped it down on the bandsaw, and slapped it on. But the part I was using were offcuts so it was warped, which will explain the final picture.
>>98935110I'm sure the magnet will make some nerd explode, as it should. I have it offset to correct the hinge with the tension of the little plate being magnetized. I'll center it after staining. The good news is this design can be completely flipped upsidedown without opening. Like that fucking magnet is strong as shit.Anyways, what colour or stain or whatever? Open to ideas. Even stickers or what have you.
>>98934170Ugly art#Justice4Chandra
>there's at least 4 project anons in this thread regularlyIs 4chan healing?
>>98935119Whats the point of a deckbox if youre going to put something to damage your cards inside it?
>>98935119Some flush screws would work better here no?
>>98935147Oh for sure, it's a prototype. This is just like 20 minutes on the chop saw with the brad nailer.>>98935139Good point actually. I assumed they'd be fine because I oversized it. Maybe I'll make a little resin divider for dice.
>>98935164I measured this one precisely and mounted the magnets the opposite way. It just doesnt close as tightly when upsidedown, but neither does my fat pack.
>>98935138It might be, actually.
>>98935164>oversizzedyou dont want them banging around
>>98935138Two of those projects are cringe beyond saving, Zelda and goblingooner specifically
I'm assuming this version of Locutus is a collector booster exclusive?The precon only has the regular frame
>>98935232Fair, I just jam in a bunch of junk to fill my deckboxes for the most part. I think the divider might be best, I may get a metal one cut and magnet it to the... magnet with a little channel to hold it in place.
Idk why but alt arts of ub cards don't bother me as much as mechanically unique onesI actually really like this hull breach
>>98934939What direction are you taking Darigaaz in? Seems both bad and open ended
>>98935173>screwheads inside to catch on cardsThe ONLY thing inside the box should be your cards in a snug (not tight) fit.
>>98935241Who the fuck knows releases now are so fucking complicated. I think the borderless cards can be in play boosters(?)
>>98935238Cry about it.
>Love playing control>Love hanging around Bracket 2-3>Love throwing wrenches in my opponent's game plans>Love watching the other players mindlessly slam their hand to the board and get swept up by a one card boardwipe>Love watching the Combatfags faces lose all hope and the immediate following chimpout when they realize combat damage is never going through this match>Love winning using a 3+ card combo that got turbo ramped out by because these retards STILL don't see how antithetical keeping Sol Ring legal in the format and having everyone starting at 40 life is to what they want to achieveTotal Timmyfag death.
>>98935309>noooo>not criticism>my one weaknessAs pathetic as expected
Toski en francais is my Commander. For rule-0, would you please permit me to start with 30 life instead of 40?
>>98935325>Le cringe>Criticism that validCry about it weak bitch
>playing jace precon>friend playing black panther precon>Mid/late game>I poly a token>hit jhoira>Jhoira hits Panther Robot>I die instantly cuz I can't refuse to steal it
>>98935256Because it simply feels like an "official alter" which is only a mildly cringe concept comparative to "true" UB.
>>98935376Noooo you can't do thatYoure cryingI'm not cryingWewlad
>>98935107I don't think those butt joints look great for boxes, either a mitre joint or a box joint might be better. Also, not so important if you are painting it but it's worth being mindful of the orientation of the grain of the box and the grain of the lid when the lid is closed.
>>98935490Hell yeah, I'll learn how to do some different joints. Is a mitre joint the one cut on an angle? I was thinking about that next.>>98935283It's fine, if I router it out and make it flush, you wont even know under the laquer.
>>98935576You also should not be painting or lacquering inside the box, the inside should be bare wood, those laquers, paints, etc... are exposing your cards to solvents in that confined space.You really should have checked out some discussions and reviews on deck box design before just winging it, if you value your cards this is not a process to go through by trial and error.
I have a theory that they are going to put godzilla or ultraman cards in Kamigawa just like they did with jurassic world in ixalan.
>>98934939Vorosh is my favorite, how did you go about with him? Did you go +1/+1 counters or something else entirely?
>>98935635>just like they did with jurassic world in ixalanHave they done that since Ixalan though? I didn't think that was a very well received distribution system.
>>98935662I mean, they did with bro and lci.I don't know if it was well received, but anyone who doesn't like it I think is an idiot.
>>98935662it wasn’t this is why it hasn’t comeback this guy is talking out his ass, nowadays they will probably do a secret lair with cards in the set hopefully they do pacific rim.
>>98935681Don't know if it wasn't well received, hasbro likely doesn't want to because why do a small set in with a real set when they can just do full sets after lotr and ff. That's where the money is duuuude who cares if people don't like the ips they are pushing
>>98935635hopefully after minus zero I just want more Gojira
>>98935662>I didn't think that was a very well receivedWotC doesn't give a fuck, their customers are card distributors, not retailers or players.
Personally, I like UB
Is giving your opponent shitty bitterblossom a good idea?
The lion rapes the dog that likes UB
>>98935743If you combine this with shields of velis vel you have a way shittier rakdos charm very cool 7/10 design.
>>98935245https://originally.store/maker-spotlight-the-woodworker-who-crafts-tarot-and-tcg-boxe
>>98935238Just start reporting them. Off-topic and not suitable for blue boards
Anyone else really like this card more than the other Sheoldred? In my experience it can just takeover the game if people aren't playing token decks. It's especially brutal if you play it after a boardwipe. Some decks just can't comeback from that.
is the original Doran the Siege Tower still sweet? Way more based than Fellothar, at least. I don't want to do treefolk tribal, just toughness, and I like the idea of making the toughness combat effect for everyone. Way cooler than having it be a one-sided effect
>>98935835I usually play with tokens, so she never bothered me. Second one remains the one I hate the most.Despite the draw shit, a 4/5 deathtoucher for 4 is still annoying to deal with.
Would putting Pull From Eternity onto a body be too much?
>>98935921Only when its added in with the rest of the retarded bullshit you added in that the creature does.
>>98935238The thread is much better with people who get shit done than poltard pissbabies crying incessently about UB and morals.
>>98935956I am not obligated to, or have any desire to see your sonichu tier custom cards or the things you jerk off to.
Suitable to bust this out once in a blue moon to really grind everyone's gears at the LGS?
>>98935961>I am not obligated to, or have any desire to see your sonichu tier custom cards or the things you jerk off to.Well it's a good thing this is a public anonymous message board and not your private discord server, and people are allowed to post whatever the fuck ontopic rules following content they want to.Have you thought about fucking off and making your own little gay clubhouse where you can kick out whoever you want, instead of crying about being unable to do so in every fucking thread?
>>98935961This
>>98935634Yes yes, I can get a shellac coating. The one there is oil based ployurethane, primed and puttied beforehand. It's cardboard, not the mona lisa, and only a fool wouldnt double sleeve their cards. The plan (still) is to do a liner of some sort.
>>98935651I've landed on enchantress with a focus on forced combat There's a few +1/+1 counters cards but vorosh is such a bad card in edh it's hard to go too hard on just that My most successful vorosh build was closer to a prison list and was reportedly not very fun so this is a compromise
>>98935971They did make their own gay clubhouse and no one posts there
>>98935971I am the arbiter of this general. People must appeal to me.
>>98935282Its basically just jund good stuff, sometimes you can catch someone with a tainted strike against a mono colored deck with the activated abilityI also like headgames in this list
>>98935963For someone trying so hard to be a schoolyard snitch, you don't seem to understand the rules of the site all that well.I'm sure the irony is lost on you.
>>98935971Ironic shitposting is still shitposting It's not a matter of taste
>>98936002Just because you don't like them doesn't make them shitposting.Why is this general full pf psychopaths who think they are the center of the universe?
>>98935993>They did make their own gay clubhouse and no one posts thereWhich is doubly funny because they literally begged - BEGGED - mods to stop deleting it as a useless fork general (which it is) and when they were allowed to keep it they don't fucking use it. It just proves that they're not actually interested in positive discussion or creativity or even having fun, they're a bunch of wannabe power tripping bitches who just want to piss and moan about every aspect of the game they don't like.>>98936002>anyone calling out my shit behavior is a troll!
>>98935961We used to have ccg for sonichu oc stuff but unfortunately for everyone it died and now its denizens post here instead.
>>98936008Because the mtg playerbase didnt gatekeep in 2010.
>>98936025Same could be said about the -UB thread
>>98935975>I don't care about protecting my cardsOh okay, do whatever.Seems kind of weird you'd go to the expense and trouble of double sleeving though.Those solvents are an issue for the sleeves, not just the cardboard, trying to remove your $60-$150 dual land is a real kick in the teeth when you find the sleeve has been melted onto it.I figured you'd like the heads up because NOT putting chemical on the inner surface and NOT filling the box with screws and metal plates, etc... is a zero-effort thing, it in fact takes more effort to introduce those hazards than to just... leave them out.
>>98935989>Sultai EnchantressThat's actually pretty cool. And yeah, I know the dragons aren't really meant as the primary gameplan but its nice to have a giant flyer.
>>98936024I keep saying it but I get not liking UB but do anons have to drone on and on every thread about it and never talk about what they like? I don't even see most of them post decks when asked.
>>98936029That is true of course, except that one is still techincally alive. I think a whole lot of friction could be avoided if the custom card and proxy friends just posted dumps of what they have been up to periodically instead of posting single images multiple times a day though. I personally do not mind them much because this general isn't super fast anyway.
>>98935740Same
>>98936061I do see your point but at least bare minimum the proxy niggas post decks/decklists and talk about the game outside of doomposting
>>98936047anon wants a deckbox with no exterior latches or hinges, he clearly doesn't care about the cards and your advice on how to keep those safe is unwanted
>>98936061the custom card posting irritates the fuck out of me because it has nothing at all to do with edh, no table is allowing thosethe proxies are fine on the other hand, many tables do allow them because so many cards are stupid expensive
>>98936084If he's making custom cards for an entire custom edh deck, then it's edh related.Not saying he said that, but that's really an easy out.
>>98936090It does look like that's what he's doing since iirc he made two commanders for it
>>98935869Yeah he's still fun. Toughness matters randomly picks up new toys all the time so there are plenty of goodies for it floating around.
>>98936090Its not for edh just because its 100 singleton, no one playing edh is going to accept homebrew cards.
>>98936108I would
>>98936084And it's a terrible place for it IMO, there are 3 or 4 whole sites dedicated to custom magic, anon would get so much more out of joining one of those and talking to people who have done it for years.
>>98936108>no one playing edh is going to accept homebrew cards.I'd spend one game giving it a chance. If it ends up being >0 mana, split second, this card can't be counters, you win the gamecards, yeah, no put that away and lets play for free, otherwise its fine.
>>98936108I would.
>>98936056Yeah and you can reliably get him to 12/12 in most games which can be profitable for greater good or a couple of other enchantments that care about power
>>98936008Posting goblin porn is never done sincerely, don't front
>>98935635>UltramanGod I fucking wish
Been pretty happy with cardphere, keeps me from buying a bunch of crapI'm at the mercy of what people send me
>>98936171>don't make cards of characters wearing bikinis in MY Christian playing card game! REEEEEEEE
>>98936204>Christian playing card game
>>98936204The Christians won a battle but they lost the war.
>>98936207So anything that destroys your retarded arguments are shitposting huh? Funny how that means you also never lose the debate! What a very honest and mature way to view the world! You're really making all you antifags in this general look really intelligent and mentally stable!
>>98936171>People are paying to have them printed to play withSeems pretty sincere to me.
>>98936251>You didn't even post a goblin you actually idiotSo you don't even understand your own complaints and how hard you're getting dunked on. Fucking lmao
>>98936111>>98936142>my instant says I may draw a card and if I do I win the game
As a general rule, which is better for the mh cards? The standard printings or the fraudulent old school styled ones? Imo the full art prints are out of the question.
>>98936301I like the fake old border more because it gets rid of the unsightly holostamp.
>Another two retards fighting over nothing episodeTired of reruns skipping this one. What are you guys brewing right now?
>>98936332Dastardly Doom Combos.Still waiting on like 30 cards.
>>98936332I'm brewing The First Sliver which barely counts as brewing really because it's a sliver deck. I am running Psionic Sliver however which is somewhat irregular.
>>98936332Thinking bout them extra turns and if its worth making my deck a 4 for instead of a 3.
>>98936332Zurgo right now, it is a proxy so it'll piss someone off ITT
>>98936367Are there even any instant speed extra turn spells for Ojer to copy or are you just running them as a side package?
>>98936367Nexus of fate, which I meant to post instead im just dumb.
>>98936373Only if it has boobs
>>98936394nah it's of one of the WoW Horde niggas
>>98934943henzie with omori companion
>>98936373>>98936394Based
>>98934943Grolnok.
>>98936373I honestly would've built Zurgo if it had been a cute waifu instead of some generic shirtless bearwhistle orc. I tried to build Eshki but she was too boring.
>>98936332Alania, Divergent Storm. It's a very straightforward deck with a fuckton of confusing spell juggling, but it's fun.
>>98934943you can build it.most creatures are pushed to have spell effect etb's anyways>>98936458...with ?
>>98934943Q, stacking the deck
>>98936445initially I wanted to use this proxy of Najeela but I decided against it
Do her sculptures count as treasures for Xorn, or is it like Bernard where the food isn't fully food for food synergies?
>>98936511No
>actually just lost to pic related last nightI think I need to kill myself.
I overheard a story that I thought was funny.>Buddy at some Magic event, encounters some Magic youtuber IRL he is a fan of, plays a game with them>Asks what deck they should play>gets told "Choose any deck you'd like as long as it's bracket 3 or 4">Buddy chose their sweatiest deck and won on turn-4.>Buddy re-telling the story of how he met his favourite youtube personality and absolutely crushed them and it wasn't even close.How would you interpret the phrase "choose a bracket 3 or bracket 4 deck".
>>98936557I mean is there any other way to interpret it other than choosing either a bracket 3 or 4 deck and playing in whatever bracket you chose?
>>98934943almost every single creature printed these days have some sort of effect so its never been more viable
>>98936555Why is that a problem? They hot
>>98936332gisa, and Atemsis, and slightly redoing Bruna, the Fading Light
>>98936555get fireball'd idiot
>>98936557>Buddy chose their sweatiest deck and won on turn-4.>it actually wasn't their sweatiest deck>it was just a deck with some basic bitch t1 gravecrawler t2 blood artist t3 warren soultrader combo>your buddy kvetchesmfw when i keep telling people that all casual issues stem from 'when' people combo off and life keeps proving me right
>>98936652Keep evading to respond for a 6th time. Won't look like an unhinged retard at all.
>>98936679the retard here is you biting the fucking obvious bait, if it wasnt your fight then just ignore it, retard
Is there a way to build Boros aggro (with perhaps a side of hatebears) at a bracket 3 power level that isn't going to rape my wallet? I'm open to a burn gameplan or something as well.
>>98936692ywnbaw
>>98936692I don't really have an interesting pitch for you but in case you can't think of anything there's always Winota.
>>98936692Arabelle is cheap.Anim Pakal is cheap.Winota is actually quite keep.Boros goblins with gut and a white background is quite cheap.
>>98936702>Boros goblins with gut and a white background is quite cheap.Nta but I would love to play boros goblins. Sadly my autism prevents me from having two cards in the command zone. It's just not right.
>>98936716Good news!You can run any boros commander and just have goblins behind them, just anything that might support them or let's you draw or impulse draw in the cz to get to them.
>>98936727True enough. Goblins probably have enough support to get away with putting a literal brick like Razia in the command zone.
>>98936702I do like the simplicity of Arabella's design, I would just have to get over my hipsterism of running an EDHrec top 100 general.>>98936727>>98936732There is something funny about signalling that your deck will be themed after the military discipline of the Boros Legion, and then - oops, all goblins inside!
>>98936692This isn't cheap as pictured, but I'm sure besides a handful of cards, everything here is pretty cheap. It's a solid bracket 3 after I took out the MLD.
>>98936332I'm waiting for my trek preorders to see what I pull. I'm thinking about doing Sisko with DS9 themed proxies since they didn't dedicate enough cards to it.
>>98936830If that's how you poke fun, I'd hate to see how you antagonize.
>>98936830My head-cannon is that gob is a trannyjanny, and he is the one who banned me for posting about my "global rule 15" Commander deck. Also I headcannon that gob samefags as his sycophants.
I want to deckbuild for bracket 2. What are some good metrics or resources to determine if a card is too strong for bracket 2?Is sheoldred the apocalypse in the maindeck fine for bracket 2?Is having all the 1-mana dorks fine for bracket 2?Thank you.
Why are content creators deciding to start gaslighting "Um, Sol Ring is actually bad because you might need colored mana"? Are they genuinely fucking stupid and can't comprehend that a ritual that turns into ramp is retarded design?
>>98936893Furries are mentally ill, that's why
>>98936888The only metric you'll ever need for b2 is>no GC>no MLD>you will only go infinite or execute 'do X, you win the game' altwincons on t9, if you can happen to do it earlier you sandbag it
Finished the Gobbo deck, didn't get a lot of the gobbos I need, will get the proxies next paycheck most likely or will hope my friend gives the cards he said he will, not waiting on that though.
>>98936893>YouTubers need to make hot takes for views>Why do they keep making really shit hot takes?It's a mystery.>>98936906Take a bigger pic you dork.
>>98936893idk if you watched the video but basically he says objectively it's a stupid powerful card that will pretty much always boost the power of your deck by including it. In no way is he saying its genuinely a bad card.
>>98936906whoops>>98936909my b
>>98936888Depends on the rest of the deck. A sheoldred will be completely fine as long as you don't pair her with wheels, peer into the abyss or too much forced carddraw
>your sol ring is stapleslop>i sleep>your fake abu dual is also stapleslop>REAL SHIT
>>98936927>edh is draw the format! I love to draw draw draw draw!>ok let's wheel so i can burn you in convoluted ways>NOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
>>98936920Should probably have withering torment or feed the swarm in there to deal with problem enchantments.
>>98936939You have a good point, I do have a Feed the Swarm somewhere
>>98936939>feed the swarmSneaking in your etb value creature with shredder's technique is better
>>98936937you can do that, just don't be surprised if people dislike it in bracket 1-2
>>98936927Would "Howling mine tribal" with Sheoldred in the maindeck (with Hugh, First of Many as the Commando) be too much for bracket 2?
>>98936920GALBA GOOBA
>>98936944Or that, just something to hit enchantments.
>>98936920Never wanted to be a skull so bad in my life.
>>98936949>people hate mono blackCasuals are so racist
>>98936888It can be some busted shit, the main criterias are no GCs and no 2-card infinites. There is an expectation for turns played, but if you can win faster, no one's gonna stop you.
>>98936912They also say "we should never ever regulate it and just trust players to do the right thing".
>>98936980>but if you can win faster, no one's gonna stop you.It's all fun and games until i can combo off faster and more consistently than you
My LGS pissed me off enough that I need a new one.
>>98937017based
>>98937031So based I'm reporting them to WOTC for WPN violations.
decks with these vibes?
>Craterhoof>Triumph of the Horde>Biorhythm>Finale of Devestation>Guardian Project>Primal Surge>Doubling SeasonWhy is Green so absurdly pushed in Bracket 1-3? Why did ANYONE think heavily restricting combo from these tiers of play was in any way a good idea? I want to see data on how many winning decks overall in eaxh bracket has G in the color identity.
>>98937065Your boogeyman craterhoof will start to look dumb when people start playing infinites with a simple cast of the commander by t5 and you scramble for counterspells and the whole pod becomes a race to combo off, a shitty cedh table with shitty cards>but green will stomp me if people can't go infinite or labman!If you're this unimaginative to mycosynth lattice + karn great creator (good thing gavin never defined a hard lock!) you're forever mindbroken by your green boogeymen
>>98937072>Your boogeyman craterhoof will start to look dumb when people start playing outside of bracket 1-3what amazing insight
>>98937076>he doesnt know belzenlok b2 combo with 72 swampsRetards need not reply further
>>98937079it's not a b2 combo
In reality, it just magically works itself out cuz people are reasonable and usually not cripplingly autistic. If any one person is cripplingly autistic (including yourself), it is your moral duty to escort them out.
>>98937091Godo's ugly cousin works with no GCs whatsoever retard
>>98937065>Guys I let someone ramp every turn then resolve every bomb why are they winning?
>>98937092>In reality we have world peace because aall conflicts just magically work themselves out cuz people are reasonable, meaning they agree with what you say>If people dont it is your moral duty to kill them off and have god sort them out.
>>98937094still not bracket 2
>>98937102>oh NOW you care that people can go infinite earlyRoru rumao
>>98937101I'd love to be stupid enough to genuinely believe that if you label a problem differently it stops counting like the anon you're replying to.
>>98937098>i'm a retarded voltron player that rolls dice>threat assessment? What's that?
Do meso-american vibes go well with golgari, right? I'm not insane for being pulled into that direction right?People being willing sacrifices ( some times) to favor the gods for good crops or rain seems on brand.
>>98937113holy moly
>>98937113can you give art please?
>>98937101Ye, it happens more than you think.
>>98937101uhhh.... based?
>>98937118https://postimg.cc/Z09QPzCVhttps://postimg.cc/jDTkrWv3https://postimg.cc/dLP58kM3Sure, and 2 more that I liked but didn't make the final cut.
>root maze>winter moon>burgeoning>30 forestsOh yeah, it's gaming time
>>98937146forestbros get in here
>>98937113fixed it
>>98937217If you want it that way, go nuts. I'm just going to keep doing what I've been doing.
>>98937217what does glowstick booba have to do with verdant catacombs TRUTH.NVKE
>>98937280Ritualistic body paint as she raises the dead from said catacombs that she is in
>>98937304but is the card called ritualistic body paint of booba bitch raising the dead from catacombs or is it just catacombs
>>98937321It's in the background doofus.
Why does minthara suck so much...
Would you play it?
Bracket 3 in my usual LGS has been becoming a cesspool of uninspired $500 decks, it's been a while since I've seen anything interesting and now it all just feels made to win, probably because there's real money on the line with how often the prize is a $10+ cardI'm so tired of this shit, EDH was supposed to be the "have fun with underused cards" format but now it's piles of staplesThe game changer system is so useless, putting a meaningless restriction on just a handful of the many overpowered and automatically-good cards, we need a points system already that puts an opportunity cost on a few hundred cards
>>98937393correct
Can it be a bracket 3? Bracket 2 I get.
>>98937410It's WUBRG, the unrestricted card access gives it a high power ceiling by defaultI've seen it a couple times in bracket 3, the second time it never even got played because the player running it just pubstomped everyone with a pile of expensive cards
>>98937393>i didnt propose points system in 60 card for the longest time because it didnt affect me>i didnt speak up>now i'm proposing points system because it's now affecting my favorite format>why is no one speaking up for me?
We wuz assimilating pregnant women n’ shiet
>>98937393Yup. Most decks I see now are in the 300-600$ range because new commander players are all midwits who can't brew and have no interest in learning. I'm seeing people who think that you tap creatures to declare them as blockers throwing out ancient tombs and fierce guardianships. Often they'll have the printings that scryfall uses by default for any individual card. Rules knowledge has become a consistent litmus test for how carried people are by the printer.
>>98937431I don't get it.
>>98937366Lacks Treasure subtype so it's a bit misleading but yet Lotus Petal is in fact a very good card.
Commander decks have been given enough redundancy, fixing, and refining that the friendly mulligans are no longer necessary for the game.
>>98937451>ask opponent if they've mulled to 6>they get madSheldon did so much damage
>>98937439correct it's annoying when some dipshit shows up to the LGS slaps down hundred dollar cards and doesn't even read them and doesn't know how the stack works
>I cast my commander>heh I move to command it has haste so I can kill you>I cast swords to plowshares>fine I just won't play my commander I take it back and play this instead
>>98937455They didnt pay more than 50 cents for those cards, that's why.
>>98937458sadly they're not proxies, these people really just have hundred, sometimes thousand dollar decks
>>98937457Tell them to pound sound.You revealed new information, you don't get roll backs after that.
If I use Q as my commander and include Glaring Fleshraker AND Delayed Cast Fireball just to have two different possibilities, what's the ratio of Wastes to Mountains I should have?
>>98937462Poker players dont scare away the fishTake your easy wins and dont scare away the piggies
>>98937451Real shit, I run so much redundancy in my decks that I rarely need to take mulligans.
>>98937448>is on 4chins and doesn’t know George DroydWho allowed you to leave the reddit containment?
>>98937479But what does it have to do with the Borg queen? You just added it randomly to something with zero connection.
>>98937489>borgs are cyborg hivemind people>george droyd is a cyborgNigga it isn’t that complicated.
>>98937498Your joke makes no sense and you're trying too hard to fit in.
There's got to be something I can do with this fucker that isn't just 5 color slop
>>98937479Why is she shoving a 3 fingered white hand into his chest?
>>98936727Recently I was looking into running this guy as a goblin commander. There are enough spells that generate goblins to make it worth it I think. Blue is a real oddity in a goblin deck but you get a couple sweet things like Ovika.
>>98937508build a bracket 1 shandalar deck with black lotus
https://mtg.wiki/page/Shandalar_Enemy_Decks_(Arzakon)Build this deck.
>>98937510Would go pretty hard with his buddy
>>98937515>>98937517That's based as fuck thanks anon
>>98937451Won't happen as long as lands are a thing and getting mana screw means losing 45 minutes rather than going game 2 instantly.
>"infinite diversity">it's a terrible cardwhat did maro mean by this
>>98937217Bodied
>>98937542run more lands and mull more
>>98937553Does more lands reduce the chance of mana screw or make it 0%?
>>98937563play q stacking the deck with 98 lands
I must've left my prerelease box at the store the other day I can't find any of it. Oh well.
>>98937439Honestly I don't think it's even a newbie issue at my LGS, the big-money decks are piloted by players who are definitely familiar with the game but are more inclined to pubstomp than brew anything cleverLike, I showed up with a jank-pile spellslinger Gruul deck, which usually runs away with the game pretty quickly despite being a barely-supported archetype, but of course something as silly as Gruul spellslinger is pretty hopeless against the blunt overpoweredness of an Eldrazi deck spewing out busted cards with little regard for mana (or financial) cost"Boo hoo you got the final blow on my unprotected Ugin Eye of the Storms, I will pump my Ulamog to +16/+16 and swing at you making you sacrifice all your lands but it doesn't count as mass land denial because it doesn't say land on the card"
>>98936906>>98936920ew ai
I want a cozy sandbox MTG game
>>98937393Yep. Bracket 3 is shit. Anyone shameless enough to need cards on the power level of the game changers to keep up at casual tables has no qualms about filling the rest of their deck with format defining staples. Budget will always be the best way to balance power and nothing has ever changed my mind on that. Cut budgets down to 20-50 bucks maximum and things get real fucking fair real fast.
>>98937798>winota.jpg>blocks you're path
>>98937798>I want to build elfball but never play against boardwipes
>>98937393this. even if you play B2 where GC=banlist there are way more new cards that are just stupid to let roam free
>>98937814boardwipes are insanely cheap. you can put 15 white wraths in your deck without even going over 10 dollars. The value engines are what cost money.
>>98937819I'd rather spend my money on busted to shit commons than scrape shitty rares for boardwipes that barely fit the budget.
>>98937846...I just told you they cost nothing idiot. If you don't wanna pay 50 cents for day of judgement don't bitch about elfball.
who the hell pays more than 3 mana in 2026 for a symmetrical destruction wipe playing white?
>>98937854Uh oh elfball meltie
If I were making a points system, I'd judge cards based on three things:Blatantly above-rate:Cards that give exceptional bang for your buck, e.g. Demonic Tutor, Natural Order, Lion's Eye Diamond, Teferi's Protection. This category cards is largely game changers (or banned) already.Though this would also include Sol Ring, true duallands, the player count duallands, and funnily enough Blasphemous Act.Automatically worth it:If not swiftly removed, will usually generate massive value (or harm) without you or your opponents needing to do anything unusual.This is all the taxing-basic-gameplay cards like Rhystic Study, Smothering Tithe, Trouble in Pairs, etc.Farewell would also end up in this category, since Also two of the Elesh Norns (Grand Cenobite and Mother of Machines) which are straightforwardly very punishing to most opponents and very beneficial to most decks, as reflected by their price tag. Though, they do at least have a steep mana cost, making the "worth it" call a lot trickier.Wins the game:Probably the most underrepresented amongst gamechangers, the cards that need little/no support to swing the game, suddenly putting you in a winning state or someone else in a losing state. Speed and interactability count for a lot.This would include Insurrection, Cyclonic Rift, Finale of Devastation, Biorhythm, Blightsteel Colossus, all those "fuck your whole life if this resolves" Eldrazi, and of course Thoracle.Grand Cenobite is awkwardly halfway in this category as well.This does actually miss some of the existing gamechangers, such as Seedborn Muse, Crop Rotation, Panoptic Mirror, and Drannith Magistrate.They have effects without a clear going rate, they're far from automatically useful, and they're hardly a single card away from a swift victory (unless there's a high-redundancy Panoptic Mirror infinite I don't know about).It's also unclear what would happen with Fauna Shaman and Survival of the Fittest.
if you play cards over 5% inclusion rate on npcrec or over $5 value your deck is basically goodstuff slopalways remember the five n' five
>>98937888Challenge:>Points replace banlist (except ante, dexterity, and Shahrazhad)>You need to choose a single pointed card as the anchor point to market the system on, one that would hopefully make players actually interested in the game
>>98937928I was actually thinking about that, I mean, Canadian Highlander does itI dunno if point costs should be 1-3 with a max of 5, or 1-4 with a max of 6 or 7Really depends on how easily a card hits 1 point: One could make the argument that Swords to Plowshares should cost a point, since it's the single best rate for targeted exile and kept cheap only by being printed to death. Perhaps even Arcane Signet should be a point, it's another staple where all equivalents are a worse rate.In the case of 5 points and fewer pointed cards:1 is all the "goodstuff slop" and most of the current game changers2 is the strongest game changers, also Sol Ring3 is the banned cardsIn the case of 7 points and more pointed cards:1 is mostly the "goodstuff slop"2 is probably a lot of game changers, and some of the more egregious goodstuff slop3 is the strongest game changers, also Sol Ring4 is banned cardsNotably, either way you can only have 1 banned card
>>98937981I don't think you fully grasp how you're just not going to get a meaningful system where you say StP is 1 point and the max is 5 in a format that has cards worth more than 12 StP. It's the same issue as the GC list where cards get pigeonholed because the number of available values is too small so you have Rhystic Study and Coalition Victory occupying the same space.
>>98933410Hylia hated fucking everyone. Link has to go on all these quests, Dorf gets raped every cycle, and Zelda... Less said, the better
>>98937888>>98937912>>98937928this gave me an idea. just take the edhrec raw inclusion rate and use that as a point system except for basics. you have 100 points/percent to fill and each cards point value is equal to the inclusion percent
>>98934767The mechanic is called Cipher, and yes, both duplicated triggers affect the same creature
>>98938095>Yes I would like to have a commander with no synergy pieces because they're all above 1% inclusion
>>98934770>most empathetic black mage
>>98938118this is only a problem for 5 color piles with no basics. as it should be
>>98934770all sets must have internet memes now doncha know?
High mana Instant and Sorceries do NOT scale well in this game. The philosophy behind this seems entirely ass backwards.
>>98938175Because when they do you have people bitching about losing to a card where the counterplay was going back in time 5 turns and killing the player before they cast it, which in a format where all 3 opponents could be doing that tends to produce frustrating situations.
shoot your shot at the new thread>>98938240>>98938240>>98938240
>>98938208But the Creature player is allowed to do the same thing with very little downsides?
>>98938242The creature player can have their entire board removed by 4/5 colors and the 5th one is the creature color itself.
