the NBA should extend the 3 point line editionPrevious: >>98931064>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: How would (You) score a potential points system (that wotc will never do btw)
>forgot to buy blor>rose from 15 to 35 dollarsVoltronbros...I'm not feeling so good
>>98938249>Ethki is 48 dollars.I'm sure the prices will drop
>>98938249>>98938276All cards are like $0.50 print-on-demand.
>>98938286Don't own a printer, not buying proxies, and making my own feels a bit too cheeky without owning a real copy. I am the architect of my own prison.
>trying to build dina>seeing a bunch of decks in moxfield and edhrec>realize none of them use gravepactAm i missing something?
I love these guys
>>98938299I don't get choosing to pay more and be unhappy about it.A full deck, double sleeving for it, a deckbox and a custom playmat can all be squeezed into a budget that is cheaper than some precons sell for.
>>98938316Gravepact's text in edh is "one opponent discards a removal spell"
I'd rather toss money in the sea than buying something from a scalper,
>>98938334Because those aren't real magic the gathering cardsIt's like a fake rolex, you'll always feel like you're coping. You don't own real cards.
>>98938339You might, not me. Some people haven't been brainwashed to think corporate provenance is a divine quality.You know WotC doesn't even make their own cards? They too, just hire a print service.
>>98938286show me a seller that does this RIGHT NOW
>>98938286All art is also generatable on demand
>>98938346hiropaper.caprintmtg.comproxyking.bizproxymtg.comproxyfoundry.com>>98938339Real magic the gathering cards are only those printed by cartamundi in belgium, currently wotc has many print services employed across north america and japan, each having a difference in card stock used and the surface finish of the cards printed as well as foil-curling issues being different for each printer.So unless you have your cards graded as confirmed Cartamundi prints, there is no difference between "official" cards and professionally printed proxies other than who is paying for them.
>>98938286It will cost me $0.00 dollars to give them fat asses and press print.
>>98938369there is also no difference between art made by humans and art made by ai
>>98938373Other than one is made by humans and one is made by AI.
>>98938373Everything in human society is created by humans and AI doesn't exist.LLM's and image generation algorithms are created by humans, they are trained by human input, their output is human work.It is difficult to attribute sole authorship to any individual, yes, but the output is still human.
>>98938369>there is no difference between "official" cards and professionally printed proxiesExcept that they have physical features differing from real cards as a group in noticeable ways. Anyone with a bit of experience can examine your cards and tell they are not real cards. They are not sanctioned. They are not collectable, they're only something you play with.I'm sure some people don't mind, but a lot of the fun of mtg for most if not all players is collecting cards they like.
>>98938373There are occasionally differences between images made by humans and images made by ai
>>98938388They're not created by humans, they're discoveredIt's like saying North America is human work because we found it and built shit on it
>>98938388No, actually. It's aggregated. Is a photo of a picture by the artist or the photographer? Then what of a photo of the picture on my computer screen, that I then print out and frame?You're being quarrelsome over something inuitive: a human may prompt the aggregation and create the tool that does it, but the aggregation itself isnt human. See breeding animals.
>>98938389This was true up until about 2013 when Cartamundi was all but the exclusive manufacture (a 1994 reprint and a few side-products over the years had been contracted to other printers even then).But now with a whole host of north american and japanese printers being the everyday norm alongside cartamundi the quality and physical traits of "official" cardsa cover a wide range of varying thicknesses, card stocks, gloss finishes, color saturation and foil-curl.There is no longer any physical quality that makes a modern Magic card "real" when compared to the professional quality Proxy printers other than A) who is paying for the print and B) wether the artistic style of the card is "official"Some of these services use the exact same card stock as some of the official printers do, if you want "real" cards you merely have to convince one to print the authentic card back, but me I'd rather use a custom back and show off that it isn't WotC product.
>>98938382>>98938382>there's no difference between genuine and fake cardboard>but there's absolutely a difference between real and fake art
>>98938396>literally that "I made this" "you made this?" " I made this" comic
>>98938390there's also differences between counterfeits and the real thing (green dot, etc) but curiously you don't seem to care about that
>>98938369>So unless you have your cards graded as confirmed Cartamundi prints, there is no difference between "official" cards and professionally printed proxies other than who is paying for them.The fact that all proxies fail one security check or another while official print warehouses do not refutes this.
>>98938401Those cards are completely identifiable. No currently existing proxy is 100% passable, because even variations in the printing process just create more groups of real cards, rather than negating the existence of genuine cards.Like if a chinese factory made a rolex, with all the same parts. You'd know it's not a rolex, even though it's physically similar, and while you can fool 99.999% of people a serious enthusiast could tell it's not genuine.It's the same with magic cards. I want a real fetchland, not some homemade card. I don't care if I can't tell the difference, I know a difference exists. Face vs Virtue, etc.
>>98938418it is hilarious that these furry proxytards spit at your face for valuing authenticity but they then immediately expect you to value their shitty art
>>98938413Only because those pritners don;t put the holofoil oval on the cards and the widely used s33 german black-core cardstock does not match cartamundi's blue-core when it comes to old cards.But some modern cards use that s33 black-core stock, the japanese use their own purple-core and only some modern cards still use the bluecore.If you get a high-DPI image of the official back and print out modern commons on s33, there is no physical difference.
>>98938405Sure there is, but I dont care about fake cardboard because the game is more fun when more people have cards.>>98938410Yup.
>>98938428i also love ai art because life is more fun when more people can make art
>>98938401>There is no longer any physical quality that makes a modern Magic card "real" when compared to the professional quality Proxy printers other than A) who is paying for the print and B) wether the artistic style of the card is "official"The security features of a card are physical qualities, no? Unless you're talking about the feel of the card but that's less to do with what's official or even desirable to collectors. You can call yourself a catholic priest and possess stronger religious values than the ordained ones but until get the blessing, "doesn't count"
>>98938426The physical difference is that it wasn't printed by an officially licensed printerWhat you're suggesting is that there is no easily visible difference
Anyone bitching about proxies are low IQ morons. Nothing more to say.
>>98938393This nigga believes in retrocausal ai
>>98938435Nope. A human isnt making the art, they're reproducing something art-like through an aggregate. Proxying, on the other hand, removes all the bitching about power level, which is mostly bitching about wallets.
>>98938439A difference without a distinction.WotC opening up to other printers from just cartamundi establishes that provenance is not a quality worthy of consideration, only the actual physical quality of the finished product and faithfulness to gameplay mechanics is of any real concern now.
>>98938444AI also removes all the bitching about paying retarded employees and contractors, which is also the same as bitching about wallets
>>98938451You'd think that, but I like this. A game, however, can be played without concerns about authenticity.
>>98938449there is also no distinction between what grok makes and what a twitter artist makes
>>98938455anything can be done without authenticity whatsoever if you think about itwhy wouldn't you plug yourself in the matrix?
>>98938449and if wotc continues to burn through design space with ever-increasing releases per year as well as ever-quickening power creep AND constant expansion of the game as an advertising platform for other franchises, even mechanical faithfullness wille ventually lose meaning, players will get to a point where they are sick of the moving goalpost.I'd argue that's a point we've already passed too, once cards like snapcaster mage, dark confidant and tarmogoyf we're $100 format defining powerhouses, today they're relegated to the budget rares binder.
>>98938456You throw this at me like it makes some kind of point? I don't take issue with generated images.
>>98938463concerns about powercreep is solved by closed formatsnot every single card can be saved, but at least Eternal Dragon has a home in Premodern foreverlikewise Tarmogoyf's ultimate home is Prefire Modern
>>98938468>>98938460
>>98938449>establishes that provenance is not a quality worthy of considerationWhy? In what way?I think using different manufacturers elevates status as an official card to the only quality that matters in determining what is an mtg card, given the physical variability of cards. Now being official, coming from a printer officially approved by WotC, is the sole determining factor for what is a real magic card. Therefore, your cards are not real. If cartamundi was the only printer, one could argue a card with similar stock and printing processes approaches being a magic card, but the distance between proxies and an authentic card are now insurmountably vast, given the only difference is place of origin.Of course, this is besides the fact that all proxies are in reality identifiable, so...
>>98938470Yes, closed formats are the answer.But imagine when the "closed format" becomes all of MtG, when standard sets are 75%-100% universes beyond and no one wants to play standard anymore? When the playerbase just walks away from wotc product (but not their lgs) and sticks to older cards. Printing proxies is already common, it wont take much for it to become the majority method of acquisition if even 60% of players start valuing old cards over new ones.
>>98938328Literal sentient holes created via schizophrenia magic. Tho this is from the time when they got cockroach bodies from Virot/Cabal Patriarch.
>>98938336Thats no reason to not use it...
>>98938476>Why? In what way?It's very simple, wotc has decided "anyone can be hired to print our cards" that means it doesnt matter who prints the cards, it doesn't matter what exact card stock they use, what exact finish they use or how saturated the colors are on the print.They have reduced their authenticity to "who payed for the order" and the ultimate answer o that question is "the customer paid for it, you wouldn't have any fucking money without customers giving it to you"So the logical consequence is that the mark of authenticity is what a customer pays for.
>>98938498>the customer paid for it, you wouldn't have any fucking money without customers giving it to youThis is actual communism, and reality denial.The reality is wizards contracts printing to a selection of companies. These companies make real magic cards, on wizards' orders. Any card made as a result of one of these orders is genuine.The distinction between a real card and a fake card is that a real card was willed into existence by wizards of the coast. Any card not brought into existence by their will is not genuine.Therefore, proxies are as distant from a real magic card as a pokemon card. While they bear a physical resemblance, they lack entirely the quality that you agree defines a magic card
>>98938483there will always be standard players because there will always be people who like a rotating format, standard just isn't the primary driver anymorepeople don't see this but one of the reasons brackets was created is so that the LGS can be aligned on what kinds of FNM commander nights they can launch
Anyone bitching about AI art are low IQ morons. Nothing more to say.
I love the thread already
Peak south asia hoursSaar you must buy my slopNo do not buy packs, you fucking bitch you are stealing from mouth of my family, bloody fucker
>>98938525Anyone who thinks "low IQ" is an insult is too stupid to understand what IQ actually measures.
>>98938534jeets couldnt print a decent card to save their lives.They couldnt even assemble iphones without getting fecal matter in them and apple pulled production from the country.
What do you guys think about playing Commander on TableTop Sim? I have a friend who is trying to get me to play with them on TTS when we can't find a pod IRL. My opinion is I'd much rather play in person, trying to play Commander in any other venue than 'in person' sounds miserable.
>>98938539How is "you are far stupider than average, controlling for age" not an insult?
>>98938545It's fun if you like edh. Nothing really changes gamewise except people have a better idea of the boardstate.What do you think you'll miss?
>>98938546Because that's not what you said, 113 IQ dumbass.
>>98938411I'm mildly harassing you because it makes you more mad than it should for effort. My opinion on proxies is "of course printer paper doesn't look like real cards."
>>98938564>talk about counterfeits>why are you attacking my paper slips?!
>>98938561Having a below average IQ literally means you have a below average ability to integrate knowledge, solve problems, and notice patterns
>>98938545Same as Convoke/Spelltable. There are a few mechanics which suck ass to play digitally but are really fun in paper.I prefer to play in paper because I like to meet people.
>>98938517>the customer buys things>this is communism
>>98938545as long as we are on voice
>>98938517> that you agreeDid you just manufacture my consent into your argument? That's hilarious.No. I don't agree.
>>98938571Oh, like yourself? We on a magic board, got no interest lecturing a dork about pedagogy and methods of statistical measurement to then also bicker about AI as he assumes everyone but those who share his opinions are subhuman.
>>98938577>wotc can hire anyone to print their cards>this somehow means that if i pay chang it's the same>just like you can destroy your car however and whenever you want>this also means that if i pay someone to destroy your car it's the same
Another attempt to bring my ideas and what people suggested together.
how to make picard work
>>98938606That's nasty. What a nasty man.
>>98938614>How make do thing draw card workYou do the thing
>>98938565You were talking about ai, I didn't read anything above that post in the thread. You sure are angry. Troll face dot webp
>>98938614Take all the cards from Kilo and put them in him
I am impressed your playmat isn't NSFW.
>>98938627Why is the 1/1 goblin token drawn like a small anime child with boobs? It looks very jarring.
>>98938627Also Post decks forgot to say that>>98938642Why not?
>>98938545Niggers building stacks of counters and tokens and searching through their decks are already pain in the ass irl. If you going to play like this in manual online simulator I'll personally seek and destroy you.Show me your Bar Mode commander and then maybe we may play.
>>98938656>Bar Mode commanderI kind of like this concept but I don't think there is anything wrong with decks that make tokens as long as it is all one type of token. Bringing a stack of 50 soldiers tokens isn't that hard.
>>98938546IQ was designed specifically as a tool to analyze how fucked up are mentally disabled people and even for that it's considered an outdated tool.Having a "high IQ" means absolutely nothing because the IQ tests were not designed for your online dick-measurement constests. You would know it if you would be actually smart.
>>98938656All of those are significantly easier in digitalNeed a token? The deck makers all pregenerate the ones you'll need. If you forgot it or something, just copy a card, rename and flipNeed to search? Right click library, click search, type name of cardNeed counters? Drop a die on. Click the number you want it to be. Out of space? Ctrl+c, ctrl+v.It's much easier than normal play. Anything tutor heavy like landfall is faster to an absurd degree
>>98938623>i didn't backread>but i was angry enough to give a shitty hot takelmao get wrecked
>>98938669Okay. You obviously need something more blunt then."YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID". Happy now?
>>98938669Aren't you justifying "low IQ" as an insult by bringing this up? Someone with a low IQ is retarded.Also, work on your English. "You would know it", "how fucked up are mentally disabled people", both wrong Sandeep
>thread already went to absolute shit
>>98938710How about you make a good and cool post then?
>>98938642Someone, maybe him but can't say for sure, requested a gyaru goblin, so I made a gyaru goblin.
>>98938733Why'd you change his name?
>>98938627ew ai
>>98938745:(
>>98938746gobanon if that's you please post a clear image of your demonic tutor thanks
>>98938737Just to make it a little more feminine. Like when other people make krenko, or mothman with giant tits, it just prickles my autism. If you're genderbending give them even slightly more feminine names. -ar is a little softer to my ear than -or without changing it too much.
>>98938749Not Gobanon sorry
>>98938753That's way less fun than just rolling with the implication
>>98938733>four toes>five fingers
>tfw have a niche deck>tfw YouTuber also makes deck>niche deck becomes mainstream and people say you copied even though the commander and 20 cards are the sameDo you have such a deck anons?
>the single biggest non-X Instant/Sorcery spell in red that deals damage to each opponent is Fiery Confluence>It does 6 damage for 4 mana only if you go all out on that mode>Best Black lifeless Instant/Sorcery spell does 4 life loss for 6, and is an MDFCWhy is this space so absurdly underutilized? Tired of X spells. Give me some clean cost -> effect burn/drain Instant/Sorceries.
>>98938768I doubt a youtuber made a Falco Spara deck that relies on the FF Summons yet so I'm safe
>>98938768No, I only build absolute dogshit battlecruiser decks that no youtuber would ever touch with a ten foot pole.
>>98938749why
>>98938785i like her pretty face
>>98938770>Why is this space so absurdly underutilized?Two factors. The first is that the design team is obsessed with classical thresholds of damage (pings, shocks, bolts, etc.). The second is that the design team is retarded (believing that -0/-N = creature damage, substituting Fight for Provoke despite them being wildly different mechanic, considering 6-up burn for red is a colour pie break [overlaps with Black's unconditional removal{???}], etc. etc. ad nauseam)
>>98938339Not that guy but I used to play Modern with all real cards and eventually sold out of them. Looking back it was incredibly stupid to blow thousands on cardboard like that. Now i only proxy
>>98938316You'll get extremely hard focused for being a fag.
>>98938800>Damage spells can never go up>Creature stats get to get absurdly power crept or enter as a 2 for 1Fucking pathetic.
I'm relatively new here, why is it every time proxy cards come up some sperg tries to shoehorn in AI discussion? It's happened like 5 times now.
>>98938816any argument for proxies is an argument for ai
>>98938816It's a b8r who's found an irresistible hook for its fellow retards that frequent this general
>>98938816This general is full of one-trick-pony ritual-posters who spam their same autism in the thread the same way every single thread. Myself included.
>>98938811Indeed, anon. What a sorry fucking state it's in
>>98938805>thousandsi exclusively played tron ($500~ at the time) for the entirety of modern pre 2019 and got my money's worth
>>98938816Because Gobbopedos
>>98938846>go ahead make fake cardboard>but please don't make fake art too!lol
>>98938852This but unironically
>>98938852>fake imagesK but why are they little girls?
>>98938852I don't have any moral issue with anons using AI for cards I just think it looks ugly more often than not
>>98938861i dunno man is there something *you* want to tell us?
>>98938767You're right. Frogs have 4 fingers and 5 toes. Thought it was the other way around. I had to find the full image of Kaitlyn McCulley's art to see if she was also accurate in that regard, which she is.Easy enough fix. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
>>98938816MTG is a horrible mix of hyperfixated autists who decided they're competitive about a gambling scam with artificial scarcity disguised as database management for fun. Its got the worst of a lot of different dumb shit crammed into one package. Worrying about the opinions on art, or even considering for more than 2 seconds, of anons is almost always a bad call. >>98938846Its funny you can switch the card art and everything else about this joke still works. Its a good macro.
>>98938862you'd be surprised what passes for human art
Konstrari commander and Roxanne in the 99, or Roxanne commander and Konstrari in the 99?
>>98938868Ah yes a single asian fag on a card. You sure got me there.How many images of green skined children have you genned and saved?
>>98938875if you think about it talent is also artificial scarcitywhy do i have to put up with artists just because they won the genetic lottery for having skilled hands? all art commissions are a scam easily solved by ai
>>98938880Roxanne probably. The group slug wil probably do much more work in general in the command zone then Aerid.
>>98938887That's semirandom distribution, different than artificial scarcity. You'll need to go back in time and complain to your parents about whatever ritual they did wrong when picking the pack you came out of as a common.
>>98938886you play mtg so clearly you're into bestiality
>>98938893maybe complain to your parents first why they're poor that's why you can't afford fancy cardboard
>>98938606Only one of the proxy printers are chang, the rest are North Americans.Very few things are made in america anymore.
>>98938897>ur mum >no uNice try little common but you're stuck waiting for a reprint or a proxy with big goblin tits for anyone to care about you.
>>98938894Why do you not want to answer why you always gen images of small green children and give them breast implants?Keep deflecting really helps my argument
>>98938907>anyone can destroy my car as long as they have us citizenship
>>98938911>'you print what i think are underaged girls', anon says as he runs over people in gta V>'what you do in fiction is clearly what you do in real life', anon says as he continues to run over people in gta V
>>98938912your false equivalence is not being given serious consideration in this matter, try something that is actually equal.
what's the point of having introductory products if you just print a handful and we're stuck with paying double?
>>98938908>he was born poori accept your concession
>>98938872did you gen this reply too?
>>989388860. You are seeing what you want to see, and that's not on me.
>>98938922>muh false equivalence!it's actually a true equivalence no matter how much you deny it.
>>98938927lol seething about cardboard prices.
>>98938940>he proxies to emulate those with disposable incomeimitation is the sincerest form of flatterycontinue to suck my cock i guess
>>98938916Keep makung up whatever you think about me anon, youre the one posting softcore oppai loli porn and trying to highroad it.Please tell me why little green women?
>split mystery booster box with friend>I pull arzakon, ekthi, thomil, seluna, blor, and homer>he pulls only sub 5 dollar bulk commanders
>>98938887>talent is also artificial scarcityNo it's not. You can definitely teach yourself to draw, become better at it, even develop your own style! The idea that you're just "born" an artist is completely false, you're just lazy and want to blame others for the inadequacies you have within yourself and you refuse to address them.
>>98938939>destruction = creationLmao, no.This is more like cam pirated film vs film in theatre or on blu-ray, it's all about distribution method and who paid the IP owner.Except in this case the cam is not shakey or fuzzy or anything, it's exactly the same image quality as the official release.But it gets worse! You see cams these days often have ads in them from betting companies, but in the case of MtG it's the official product that is full of advertisements from other companies now, with full-set sized advertisements being part of the card game as 50% of yearly releases.So we have the inverse situation from cam-pirate films vs theatrical/bluray releases, the unofficial pirate product is the one that has a clean ad-free aesthetic and the official product is the one jammed full of ads!
>>98938945I will not stand for shortstack erasurebut I think if you made up stuff one more time anon's post button will break and he can't post any more hot girls! you can do it!
I'm a lolicon and those goblins aren't lolis. They should be tough. Maybe I'll make a loli Yshtola or Mesugaki ojousama version of Teysa Karlov.
>>98938945>EXPLAIN YOURSELF TO MEEEEElmao i could, but i won't because i want to make you seethe even more
>>98938945>>98938956cool commander tho, Prossh is amazingdid you build it any non-conventional way?
>>98938953you can definitely get a better job in this economy so you can afford real cards anon, you're just lazy and want to blame others for the inadequacies you have within yourself and you refuse to address them.
>>98938933Sweet Christmas
You know you guys can shut the AIbaiter up by simply asking to see them in play, right?
So uh, I'm making my nephew that likes magic a Zombie deck using pic related, what are some staple zombie cards to put in this or just some random suggestions to stop anons from arguing?
>>98938944lmao you got really mad about >>98938875too close to home for you.
>>98938933I am not the schizophrenic who is crusading against you but that goblin absolutely has a cartoony child face.
>>98938982Check these outhttps://scryfall.com/search?q=t%3Azombie+o%3Azombie+id%3Aub&unique=cards&as=grid&order=edhrechttps://scryfall.com/search?q=-t%3Azombie+o%3Azombie+id%3Aub&unique=cards&as=grid&order=edhrec
>>98938955>i didn't ask for consent to wotc to do X but i did it anyway>therefore i also don't have to ask for consent from you to do X, i should do it anyway
>>98938991love you bby
>pirate video games>pirate movies>pirate manga>pirate magic cardsYo ho I love free stuff.
>>98938988NTA but I agree, you're seeing a reflection of what's inside your own head.No real female, child or adult, actually has a face like that, it's so unreal that it doesn't even hit the uncanny valley (which requires being close to real).It's stylized and your perception of that style is your own projection.
>loli badWhere do you fags come from?
>>98938986>you have real cards, i don't>...you're seething!baffling post
>>98938956>>98938963Sneed harder and gen more softcore loli porn go on>>98938968I have another foodchain commander he grew into. Prossh foodchain is pretty boring. When i first got hin from precon i had a fun token devour deck he made for
I have a hankering for a Naya Spiders deck
>>98939007jokes on you i have all the softcore porn i need and no i won't share it to you haha
>>98938994Again your destruction=creation fallacy is fallacious bullshit.No one needs to ask a third party permission to create something for themselves, or to pay someone else to create something for them.WotC does not have ownership of math, they are not the sole owners of all cardstock on the planet, etc...If WotC doesn't like competition in the form of print-to-order then they can offer the service themselves.Artificial scarcity only works as a business model if you have sole ownership of the means of production.
>>98939008Who would be the commander?
>>98939003You already conceded at the nou, everything else is your cope being amusing to see.
>>98938996>generate art>generate code>generate customer service>generate moviesYo ho i love free labor
>>98939014>Artificial scarcity only works as a business model if you have sole ownership of the means of production.>but if i'm the only guy who can do what you want within the area you can only work in my service is legitimate and not artificial scarcity
>>98939022Yes, I do enjoy making the internet worse for everyone. That's what we're here for.
>>98939020i'm not the one angry about little green women here
>>98939018Jacob Green aka Spiderman
>>98939032You're retarded right?>Artificial scarcity only work if...>AHA! So if it's working it's not Artificial scarcity!You're really fucking retarded.
>>98939007I sure will lolAnyways, what's your foodchain deck? never saw much appeal in that card. My prossh deck is absolute boomer stuff, with things like this
>>98939018Ntayrt but I think Marisi or Gahiji would both fuck for spiders
>>98939040i never said artificial scarcity doesn't workwhat i'm saying is that you're mad that artificial scarcity is a profitable business model
>>98939044they put such amazing art on such hard to use cards bro
>>98939047No what you did fucking say is >If it's working it isn't artificial scarcityYou said it right here >>98939032And *that* makes you a retard.
>>98939035My day is better for seeing that.
>>98939059>if other people do it it's bad>but if it applies to me it's good!i'm just humoring you at this point even though you already outed yourself as a commie>protip: only commies post 'means of production'
>>98939062I'm tempted to ask for a non-goblin thalia, guardian of thraben to match the boob-licker there, but that'd get in the way of more goblins in the pipeline.
>>98939038I wish you luck in your endeavors
>>98938880Roxanne if you want to play big spells with the mana doubling. Aerid if you want to snowball into a more Voltron win.
>>98939035Do you have proxies for either of these cards? I love both of these effects
>>98939068You don't know what you're doing because your statements expose your lack of intelligence, your own sentences are self-contradictory.You're just making angry noises for the sake of making angry noises.You will unthinkingly say *anything* in a desperate attempt to make other anons stop doing things that upset you even though those things have nothing to do with you.
>>98939077>to make other anons stop doing things>when i've been pro buying real cards AND pro proxy AND pro AIyou're having a hard time today huh?
>>98939081>I'm on your side, I swear!>But I will vehemently argue with you anyway!>Don't forget I agree with you though!
>>98939086if you bothered to backread the conversation was all about an anon insisting that his fakes were the same as real, which is obviously not the casei proxy for only one reason - cedh - and i will be the first to say they are complete fakes regardless of how they look
>>98939036I have jerked off to them already. You don't even know what you're seething about. Beautiful.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98938923Wait for reprints
>>98939044Shattergang Brothers (the only good goblins in the command zone).Full attrition, full stax, no fun allowed Magic.
So what are you guys brewing right now? Thinking about making this nigga myself.
>>98939092No, not the *same* as "official" (all physical cards are real, you cannot deny the reality of something that can be touched) but *just as good as* "official. That "official" status of cards has been drained of meaning by WotC using the game as an advertisement platform for other franchises and by the headlong rush to power creep faster and faster, by the abandonment of strict design-space-preservation principles by the advent of FIRE, by the abandonment of cohesive aesthetic in the dozens of card frames, borderless treatments and secret lair alternates.WotC has made the game tacky and unrespectable so the value of "official" status has been made hollow.Proxies are *just as good as* NOT equivalent, they would have lesser value if they were equivalent to what WotC does.I proudly show off my unofficial cardbacks in clear sleeves (or not sleeved at all for the ones I have in plastic card stock)
>>98939105They're only good in the command zone if you're not playing goblin tribal.
>>989386143cmc equipment
>>98939107wym it makes itself with that disgusting ability, let me guess, you worldly tutor for nesting dovehawk
One concept I still struggle to understand are Collector boosters.I struggle to accept that people pay these prices to open random cards (and you can't even use the packs to draft with). By contrast, I love precons, they are best sealed-product ever, they are amazing value for money and contains a deck you can use right away.Can someone please explain how Collector boosters make sense, because it seems like the whole product is just flushing your money down the drain. It would be better if the chase cards actually looked desirable. I don't get it.
>>98939107Spent last night going through scryfall counting untapped blue lands and determined that it is possible to build a solid enough manabase for him. Not sure what's going in the deck other than blink, but I think he's a fun take on mill.
>>98939122I didn't make him yet I still gotta get the proxy, I should do your idea honestly
>>98939097>complain to your parents why you were born with shitty hands>ok then complain to your parents why you're poor>uh no that doesn't count!when you're this dumb you're easy to confuse with someone else lol
>>98939123FOMO gambling anon, addicts.
>>98939123Lottery tickets wrapped in foil.
>>98939117I've known this for years. Anyone who tries to build them tribal is shoving a square peg in a round hole. The long game is where they thrive.
>>98939123collector boosters guarantee a bonus sheet card for sets that have them, you are basically spending 10x to gamble with better odds
>>98939131Oh man you are still trying to >nou when I already got word to your mother. Sad.
>>98939123it's a release valve for scalpers that sometimes people flush money for fun (yes people with disposable income like to flush money sometimes, that's why it's disposable). sometimes the chase cards are desirable. if i like a set enough i'll buy one if it isn't too expensive (<40$). my lgs was selling hobbit ones for like 80$ lmfao, haven't bought one since Lorwyn Eclipsed.
>>98939139For the longest time they were the only Jund option for that hole.
>>98939141>he can only score with my mothersad!
>>98939142Only addicts think income is disposable
>>98939151Your dad was okay but he cried too much.
>>98939156that's why my mom was ok with you because you're a crybaby too
>>98939107Primarily brewing lands based Korvold but contemplating Orzhov Niv.
>>98939105Sometimes I consider that maybe the biggest use of a commander is just curve filler that an enemy might willingly cuck his own card-advantage trying to remove for no good reason. Like I could see myself just making a commander agnostic Jund control deck with these guys. Just cast it on 4 if I have nothing better to cast that turn and grin if an enemy wastes a Path to Exile on it because they feel like they have to protect their timmy Cloud Voltron bullshit. Maybe they just ignore me and then I can actually use the ability to generate advantage.
>>98939107I made a whole list for this guy because I wanted to run rimefire torque in some shitty tribal deck but his art doesn't really do anything for me so I might trash this one.
>>98939152i don't agree
>>98939163You could proxy him with different art, I do that for UB cards
>>98939168Yes well, addicts deny their addiction and the symptoms of it.
>>98939172You accuse me, I deny that accusation, round and round we go.
heh, ghidorah actually mutates
>>98939177Your denial is unimportant next to your confession of addict behaviour.
>>98939158Glad I contributed to your neppobaby status by paying t fuck her mouth anyway and its let you buy such nice cardboard.
>>98939190holy ESL
>>98939191Your welcome!
>Play a game last night using Nicol Bolas>Was able to slow thw fuck down all the shit my opponents were doing>Game turns into Archenemy>Have no way of closing out the game without reliable combos so I'm just controlling the board and hoping I an sneak a winWotC needs to make more Rakdos control cards that burns like totals of opponents.
>>98939125post land list
>>98939075
>>98939170Do you pick your art from somewhere specific or do you just take whatever shows up at the top of google?
>>98939239Holy moly
>>98939225Bolasbro... your Hailfire?
>>98939244One card, and it's starying to fall off with the absurd amount of draw + lifegain + treasure production in the game.
>>98939225>without reliable combosif you're successfully controlling the board you will eventually hit your black tutors/draw your combo
>>98939240Just Google or Pixiv typically. Used to use Pinterest but it went to shit. Or art threads on this board.
>>98939269>hates UB>can't even follow the UW style guide for orzhovsomeone could give you some guy from an IP you're oblivious to and you'd still accept it
>>98938972>>98939243Anon why do you always respond to ai tits like your 60's Burt Ward Robin? Are you actualy 12? Indian? Not know how to go on pornhub?
>>98939288Because it's in my nature
>>98939265If it was 10 years ago, sure. But people shit out "answer me now or die" boards every single turn cycle these days that the control packages are basically don't keep up.
>>98939291To constantly post like a 12 year old?
>>98939300well golly gee anon I think I post more like a 90 year old
>>98939297other than ramp which is designed to go over the top of you please give examples of someone managing to sneak away from your discard/spot removal/boardwipes with one single card
>>98939277You seem upset
>>98939277I just browsed for a few minutes on a tg thread man, naturally it's not gonna look exactly like a commissioned piece of art. I'd still take it over Sephiroth as feeling like magic. If you really want to get specific with it you could tinker with AI too.
>>98939311you can proxy however you want, just be honest with yourself and say that you proxy because UB card ruins your immersion and that if you found an art you like you would prefer to not know from what IP it's actually from, not from any love of UW at all
>>98939322>>98939321hey look at that i'm proven right
>>98939322>just be honest with yourself and say that you proxy because UB card ruins your immersionI never denied that though? I don't like UB because it breaks immersion. In any case it was a proof of concept to say that you can proxy a card with different art, there's etsy sellers and stuff for that. No need to throw a shitfit.
Some days it really feels like wizards hired third worlders to astroturf magic discussion in favor of universes beyond in threads like this.
>nobody posts in the containment thread>fags will still insist that UW is beloved
Rules question.If you accepted a game with a silver-borderd Commando, would you accept this combo?Silver-borderd Magic allows for "any conceivable color". If I play a spell that is "all colors", will the X value of Mana Cannon be "an inconceivably high" number?Thank you and please no ban.
>>98939339I just wanted to know what anons were brewing
>>98939354the most generous number of colors perceivable by humans is 10 million
>>98939354But there are only a couple of conceivable eye colors.
>>98939348Gee I wonder why no one would post in a thread for only people who agree with them.
>>98939309Let's not even discuss how green can snowball 3-6 cards from just casting their commander with Guardian Project and it's ilk on board.
What are some cards with nice bums?
>>98939354>commando
>>98939366>guardian projectgrixis can remove enchantments now>tproi highly suggest you do not play grixis control beyond b2
>>98939366Guardian project is buns.
I believe that proxies are not just attempts at replacing real Magic cards, they are in fact more valuable than the real ones could ever be.
>>98939403Based
>>98939403>proxies bring joy to everyone regardless of disposable income and allow player expression without pay to win mechanicsYou might be on to something.
In hindsight, how were background enchantments overall?I recently built this commander deck and a lot of the cheap little +1/+1 counter cards I've accumulated have made this really consistent.
>>98939403I'm going to be double sleeving mine while I have official cards worth $9-$80 sitting unsleeved.Think i'm going to cash out the bulk collection and just keep my decks soon, no need for a deckbuilding library when I can order any deck for a flat rate.
>>98939403Proxies arent the problem.Someones personal fetish as a proxy though? I'll stay out of your magical realm.
>>98939403>proxies have replaced wotc cardboard>next stop? proxies replacing wotc r&dcan't wait
>>98939435But the fetishes are okay when wotc prints them, right?
>>98939435How would you feel if I showed to to commander night with a fully proxied Teysa deck where all the art was lolis roughly trying to fit the look of the original card?
>>98939449I'd kneel my king
>>98939449Are we playing at an lgs in this scenario?
>>98939445>i dont like pancakes>but waffles are okay??Youre retarded
>>98939460>i don't like pancakes that (You) made>but pancakes that wotc made are ok?retard
>>98939457Yes
>>98939123Ever play a scratch off
Waffles > pancakes
>>98939465In that case I would probably lie about my decks powerlevel, dumpster your shitpile and right after I'd talk to the lgs' owner because a pedophile adjacent adult man who plays proxies apparently frequents his store.
>>98939464I'll make it really simple for you anon:Your AI slop porn is shit. Any other statement or argument you think im making? Im not. Loli tit hentai? Sure. Proxies? Go for it. Ai genned loli tit proxies? Fuck off you know what you're doing and high horsing 'but wotc makes gay art' really just makes you even more of a faggot.
>>98939470post list
>>98939490>Ai genned loli tit proxies? Fuck off you know what you're doingi'm proxying art, what else do you think i'm doing?
>>98939460I see, so if wotc were to say.... put a bunch of naked faggots in a hotspring on a card, that'd be fine by you.It's just when anons put clothed shapely women on cards that pisses you off.
>>98939502Please see >>98939490I dont care about their faggots either. You're both awful but you're simply more annoying
do we have to do this song and dance every thread?
>>98939123It doesn't, and the prices are fucking bullshit. I ain't gonna stop some gambling addicted retard from wasting his money though.
>>98939518I know, just pointing out your hypocrisy.It's not about sexualized images, it's about straight men enjoying lewd images.
>>98939488>pedophile adjacentReddit is down the hall buddy.
>>98939533Everyone's normal in reality. We're not in reality, though, we're in a Mongolian basket weaving website, in a small corner that's roughly cordoned off, discussing a card game.
We like cunny here tourists.
>>98938880Roxanne's effect is a really fun one to build intoConsider that things like Unexpected Windfall are mana and hand neutral, even mana positive with Storm-Kiln Artist in playI have a Gruul spellslinger deck with Roxanne as commander>>98939490ThisAI gen moron can't seem to understand that it's not the art being unofficial or lewd that's the problem, the problem is that it's boring ugly shit that no human effort went intoAlso using genAI makes you a corporate shill
>>98939558TRVTH
>>98939550Good for you, but it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. I bet you'd have a real easy time explaining why it is actually really normal to have your pedo shit printed on cards to the average lgs owner trying to run a family friendly establishment.
>>98939569But no need to explain to anyone if you're playing with cards featuring trannyshit, gayshit, furryshit or interracialshit. Just clothed shapely women need to be justified.
>>98939569>because I like it
>>98939559>Also using genAI makes you a corporate shill>looks around >Wizards of the Coast Collectible Card Game enthusiasts >somehow the ones making their own card art are the corporate shills lmao no one playing mtg is anti corporate.
>>98939579>Just clothed shapely women need to be justified.I don't give a shit about clothed shapely women, that anon posted some loli with barely any clothes on.
>>98939588>loli with barely any clothes onjust like the goblin gens then
>>98939588The two loli images ITT are not proxies, they are ragebait, but youve been calling the goblins pedoshit for weeks.
All I got out of all this buffoonery is that if I want to activate the local autistic, gen a loli and post it here. I'm not in dire need for card recommendations or deck ideas at this moment, so random shitposting will serve my needs.
Has anyone seen or used one of these? Looks pretty cool, but expensive.
>>98939598I haven't been calling anyone anything until now because I am not who you think I am. I just called the pedophile who posted loli at the start of this reply chain a pedophile.
>>98939611No, that's revisionism, the loli's are mid-chain in response to your unprompted bitching about pedoshit.
>>98939239>>98939075I hope these are to your liking.
>>98939618Oh shit you're right about the mid chain thing but I did only start posting after he posed the hypothetical.
Loli isn't pedophilia. Lolicon is fictional.
>>98939608Damn that does look pretty cool
>>98939608How much does it cost?
>>98939645NTA but I just checked and it costs $99 on TheSoulDial(dot)net
>>98939608Basically what I thought, I don't want to spend that much on something that tracks half the table's life, whether or not I can play Doom on it other times.
>>98939650Remove The, it's just Souldial my bad
>>98939540>enjoying the lewd imagesThanks for playing pedophile
I want to put pic related in my Evereth deck, what should I take out? https://archidekt.com/decks/16689238/tax_evasion
>>98939677Goblins aren't loli, faggot.
>>98939622So you stepped in on the side of the idiot because you couldn't resist ragebait.
>>98939696> aktualy the kids are green!!!Green kids fucker fine
>>98939696SHES ONLY 4'11" YOU SICK FUCK!
>>98939705Truly the ideal height for a grown, developed woman.
>>98939708i didn't know all indonesian women are underdeveloped
Hot fictional kids are fine. No one is harmed by fiction.
Does this guy think all goblins are children? Even the ones on real magic cards?
>>98939719Yes
boy I sure do love talking about EDH
>>98939719This isnt a child. Please let me know if you cant see the difference or simply want to be obtuse.
>>98939683It looks like your game plan is make treasures / creatures to sacrifice to get value. I don't think Praetor's Grasp would get you a lot of value and you'd still have to sink mana in to take advantage of it since you're not a thief deck. I'd swap that one out unless it's a pet card you just like.I also recommend changing your "Murder" card to "Geth's Verdict" if you just care about other people's stuff dying and could do without targeted removal, which you already have. I found mine in a bulk bin and I'm starting to recommend it to folks.
>>98939726please let us know why you clearly want to fuck it
>>98939729Thanks anon, it was pretty difficult thinking about what to take out. Also thanks for the other suggestion
>>98939732I love ugly hags.Unlike you goblin child fuckers
>>98939726It's short like a child. It doesn't have any breasts or wide hips like a being that has gone through puberty like a child.It's just ugly and short.Is being ugly the defining feature over anything else to do with morphology?You don't need to respond. I've seen enough to know you're just trolling or are so mentally retarded even crayons are too dangerous for you.
>>98939724>>98939421Gimme that EDH discussion, anon. I've been ignored because the thread's discussing /c/ topics.
>>98939732Uggo's put in more effort.
>>98939738>>98939741>they fuck hags and uggos irlyou rapists!
>>98939740What's the most tuning Krenko can get while remaining bracket 2?
>>98939608is that even real?
>>98939740>>98939421I like the backgrounds, I personally don't really use them as secondary commanders but I just add them to decks if possible
>>98939656>>98939655>>98939650>>98939645>>98939641I watched a video showing it's features on YouTube and it's seriously impressive. I hate using a phone and having a rotating ring to change life is way better than tapping a screen. Anything else is a cherry on top.
>>98939773It does seem better, I can't tell you how many times I got an important text during a game and had to put it the game on pause to answer it or bare minimum swipe it off the screen so no one reads it
>>98939750>Run every cheap 2 for 1 goblin spell in the 1-3 CMC range>Cask Krenko t3-4>Start tapping KrenkoWow
>>98939368Unplayable booty queen coming through
>>98939773>>98939778What's wrong with pencil and paper?You kill more trees with a lithium battery.
>>98939784bad at math
>>98939782That's a very flat ass>unplayableKaalia?
>>98939750The only way krenko can be bracket 2 is from him to be the only goblin in the deck
>>98939787It's simple addition/subtraction and it very rarely goes over 100.8 year olds are expected to have mastery over this.This game's original defining purpose was to teach math, the man who invented it is a Phd math teacher.
>>98939792just chaff goblins and chaff RDW spells.
>>98939795Yeah like I said I'm bad at math anon, THAT bad.
>>98939792>no GC>no MLD>krenko is still not b2what did anon mean by this?
>>98939790She was indeed in the Kaalia precon and has been a terrible include since the day she was released.
>>98939807Not every deck needs to be optimum.
>>98939800Then you shouldn't be able to play the game, everything in it is math, and a lot of it is more complex than basic addition and subtraction.
>>98939816I'll play it anyway
>>98939239>>98939621These are great, thank you my brother in slop
>>98938933Do we have enough gobs now to build a deck full of them?
>>98939421Backgrounds are really cool. I really wish they had revised them by now.
>>98939828Anon, I've been doing the fully gob-proxy Auntie Ool deck for about a month now, ETA 3 days until the package arrives.Since making the order gobanon has almost made enough alternate card choices for me to swap out the UB stuff, GC's over 3 and the stuff directly referencing the Commander too.
>>98939811
>>98939811True. This is one of my favourite not exactly optimal creatures.
>>98939828>do we have enough children to make a full pedo deckftfy
>TFW we're going to have another 2 million threads about AI and goblins.
Just did the 100th card. It will now move to playtesting.
>>98940016Nice bro
I never got into Zelda games because I always got stuck and lost fairly early on.
>>98940048That's great but what does it have to with AI generated goblins or commander for that matter?
>>98940016based
>>98940048sure, but have you ever considered that I am currently at a point in my life where I need to extract the blue layer from official wizards cardboard and snort it in order to continue living?
>>98940076you can just beg for basic lands so you can have all the blue layer you'll ever need
>>98938545loved it. was how my crew did it
>>98938656Searching is way easier in a digital client like Cockatrice or TTS than it is on paper. No waiting on shuffles really speeds things up.
Thank you for destroying this general gobpedo, you did it. You snatched swordtard's crown for most massive cunt
>>98940232I blame the anon that can't ignore him for shit
>>98940235His one rabid dicksucker fanboy who buys all his crap and eggs him on for more is worse.
>>98940239no I think the anon that can't stop talking about him is, think about it. Has he ever posted what he's brewing? A decklist? A commander he likes? I've personally never seen it all he talks about is how much he hate's one poster. All in all I think you're him so here's the last (You) I shall give you
>>98940235This.
>>98940239There are at least 3 anons who have bought prints of his proxies.
https://moxfield.com/cards/gwx1w-h-m-s-bounty-unlikely-timeshipwhale tutor tribal?
>>98940278Are there even enough whales in general?I can think of aetherwhale and that's it.
>>98940293there's like 13 outside of Changlings
>>98940297Oof. That's about as bad a scarecrows.
>>98940016Please post the entire deck when you have it all printed out.
>>98939718Imagine the smell
>>98940308Will surely do. I'll start with cheaper mockups though.
>>98940232You can blame him as an inciting incident anon, sure. However, the people who are whining about him would just be whining about something or someone else if he wasn't here.That's what they want to do. Whine.
>>98940380This whole playerbase is built on impotent whining since the beginning. The only difference now is that blatant cheating (not mana weaving level, legit rigged shuffles that put whatever you want on top) and financefaggotry are slowly taking more of a back seat (they're still around, obviously, but the scale of it is way smaller compared to when people would legit hassle you trying to make you lease a deck rental).It really is to a point where I thought it was Goomba Fallacy but no. People will legitimately whine about WotC doing things they suggested because it wasn't the idyllic version they pictured in their head.If you ever wonder why WotC doesn't listen to their "dedicated fans" it's because said "fans" live in a world completely divorced from reality including their own spending habits where they will bitch about literally anything and their idea for fixes are useless dogshit on the level of "duhh grok design good magic product make no mistakes".
>>98939339The people shitting up these threads are the antifags, not the proUB people.
>>98940247No that faggot doesn't contribute shit. All they do is piss and cry about UB and posters they don't like. They were probably the faggot obsessed with shitting on Swordbro and now they're obsessed with Gobanon. Even if the posters he doesn't like disappeared and Wizards removed UB and whatever else that guy has a dildo up his ass about, he'd start bitching about deck types he doesn't like, and if everyone was playing deck types he likes then he'd pissbaby about colors he doesn't like.There's no pleasing that faggot. His life obviously sucks shit so now we have to be his therapists. If they were perma'd 90% of the offtopic shit posts would disappear immediately.
>>98940449Is that even true? Every time someone mentions that they do not like ub some pro ub guy comes out of the woodwork to run them down some strange line of logic to try to get them to admit that uw is shit actually.
>>98940475TRVTH NUKE
>>98940478Yes it's true and you know it's true gaslighter. Anyone who's used this general for more than a day knows antiubfags are the ones constantly trying to bring up antiUB fights even when they're kindly reminded edh always has been and always will be a proUB thread and that they already have a general dedicated to crying about UW >>98829219 that they refuse to use while they shit up this general with their offtopic dilating.
>>98940495>Check to see when it was posted>Day: 13>Huh? That can't be right isn't today the 9->Month: OctoberDamn this thread really did fail. No wonder Planar Standard never took off.
>>98940520A general based on seething hate and anger didn't last?No way!
>>98940520Meanwhile the antifags have made 400+ seethe posts about UB in the last 6-8 edh threads alone. It just goes to show they're not actually constructive and they don't actually want to talk about the game, they just want to cry about Ninja Turtles in Magic and attack anyone who likes/doesn't give a fuck about that.
>>98940478I find it fascinating that according to your own words logical thinking determines the inferiority of the Magic the Gathering universe.
>>98940546Well yeah, it's pretty dogshit from a story perspective. The pictures on cards depicting the settings in which the shit story took place did a pretty decent job of being evocative and cool in the past though.
>>98940546star trek has the prime directive which is more chuddy than UW can ever hope to be
Now that Trek has officially failed and all the super pushed cards couldn't save it, WotC can bite the bullet and ban this set, right?
>>98940602I just want it to go bad enough that all the pushed cards will be super cheap so I can get them.
>>98940602the worst of UB is still better than dragon's maze and born of the gods
>>98940602>Now that Trek has officially failedProof?
>>98940611Everyone is saying that prerelease attendance is lower than reality fracture.
>>98940619i heard this from the hobbit and now it's the 4th best selling set
>>98940627I wanted to shitpost but I realized I'm also tired of the same joke so just pretend I insisted that those numbers were a lie or don't count for some reason.
>>98940627Every set fails, and ever set as terrible prereleases according this this general.
If wizards truly cared about us retarded casuals they would put Insurrection on the game changer list.
>>98926764https://files.catbox.moe/gf29oh.pngPizza and others.
>>98940645Good Googly Moogly
>>98940645Could say, these are cheesy.
>>98940656Or even... saucy!
anyone played some sentry slop?https://moxfield.com/decks/WaapTJQE0kmR43JOz31B7A
>Creatures are allowed to snowball put of control as they go up in mana value>Instants/Sorceries aren'tDesign team needs to get their ahit together.
>>98940666I put Sentry in the deck I'm making my niece so no
>>98940672>Creature dies to removal>Sorcery requires one color to answer itHmm I wonder why
https://moxfield.com/decks/_ok_0pyUuky6EbtHux0omwAny good cards for Eirinis in the last 2 sets?
>>98940627While I don't want to stir up an avalanche of shitflinging UB prereleases are way more expensive where I live. It was 65 dollars for final fantasy prerelease entry compared to 30 for EOE and Tarkir the same year. Surely the higher prices must contribute somewhat to how much money these sets rake in
>>98940726how'd you get a picture of me
>>98940645top right makes the rest of these superfluous
so uh,how ya doin'?
>>98940695>Step dodges and value engines aren't the entire goddamn game atm
>>98940809The last time they created value spiral sorceries we got one of the worst blocks in history.
>>98940828>"sorceries were the problem, not one of the most powerful lands ever printed in a format with ridiculous support for it"How do you remember to breath? Genuinely curious
>>98940861new thread>>98940861new thread>>98940861
>>98940855Yeah that's why they kept bringing back this design of "instant/sorcery that untaps all the lands you used to cast it", right?
>>98940619Yeah same thing said for every other UB prerelease. Notice how Hasbro isn't scaling them back? If they weren't selling they wouldn't print them. Cope
>>98940960>If they weren't selling they wouldn't print them. CopeThey would because Hasbro makes money selling it to Costco and Target, it doesn't matter if customers actually buy it.
>>98940645For me, it's top middle
>>98939608Using a skull symbol in a game which already uses a skull to signify something else is really dumb
>>98938614Artifact blink
