Boss Edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>98931202>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>4e Booksgofile.io/d/KAQe7n7f>3rd party tools & resourceshttps://wahapedia.ruhttps://sigdex.io/https://www.newrecruit.euhttps://aosg.github.io/https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/>Thread questionWhat's next for Grand Alliance Destruction?
>T.Q.Probably less racially coated Bonespliters >>98932148sauce?>>98932503Name?
>>98938593Original leaks said hysh would be a not!ulthuan kinda thing, maybe they got it confused with the chamon thing we've seen?Either way yeah it'd be odd to lose the symmetry thing. Maybe there's an opposite piece of hysh at the opposite part of the world? Who knows>>98938609If you're going to be a shameless coomer like this the least you can do is use reverse image search first
>>98938609Bonesplittaz aren’t racially charged unless you want them to be. Which I guess GW prolly doesAnyway, the real answer is beastclaw refreshes, some light cav option for kruleboyz, and if we’re lucky (ie, never happening) a properly balanced and priced Gloomspite roster
As a TOWgrog I am excited to see how the AoS end times changes the setting. I have heard it’s being made more gritty and realistic like WHFB and less out there nonsensical like the current god battle magical realms stuff
>>98938594>>Thread question>What's next for Grand Alliance Destruction?>moonclan: redone so they're night goblin hybridised with spiders and the spiders themselves are hybridised with squigs and other creepy crawlies>gitmob: stereotypical goblin pirates with ships, but mainly pump wagons, partnering with the wolf riders>ironjaws: redone goregruntas >kruleboys:another hobgrots unit>mawtribes:yetis>gargants:bye bye mancrushers>kragnos:full faction of centaurs in 6th edition
LEAKER-SAN PLEASE, TELL ME YOUR TALES OF THE LAST WORLD AND HOW THIS WILL BE TRUE UNLIKE A DECADE OF LIES AND MISTAKEN LEAKS!
>>98938693>redone so they're night goblin hybridised with spiders and the spiders themselves are hybridised with squigs and other creepy crawliesThis was blanche's vision for them but they decided to tone it down a bit (the correct one imo), I can't imagine they'll go back to that now.I do think we're getting moonclanified spiderfang though.
>cage of smegma
>>98938706Sure!
>>98938718You're seething because you don't have it?
>>98938591It was literally just "Generate an image of a Stormcast Eternal from Age of Sigmar, marching through a forest overrun with the taint of Nurgle."
How do you guys feel investing time in a setting that GW themselves admits failed and that they need to scrap and reboot?
>>98938787
>>98938594>TQ>What's next for Grand Alliance Destruction?Spiderfang receive a full release. For the first time, Forest Goblins become a proper army with named characters, monsters, infantry, faction terrain and manifestations.>Half gobbo/half spider mutant named character>Forest Grot infantry unit (grots with clubs and crude blades)>Forest raider infantry unit (grots with bows or javelins)>Spiderrider cavalry>Half gobbo/half spider mutant heavy cavalry >Spider swarm chaff unit>Arachnarok spiders >Forest Grot Shaman >Spider Den faction terrain (cave full of spiders and spider eggs + webbed up victims/food)>Forest Troggoths
>>98938787I really like AoS, in fact I'd say I love it! I did a big read through of the lore a year or so back and really enjoyed it. Here's my read order, check it out! I'm sure you'll like it :)Warhammer Age of Sigmar - Mighty Battles in an Age of Unending WarThe Realmgate Wars: Quest for Ghal MarazThe Realmgate Wars: Balance of PowerThe Realmgate Wars: GodbeastsThe Realmgate Wars: Ironwarp CitadelThe Realmgate Wars: All-GatesSeason of War: FirestormSpire of DawnAge of Sigmar BlightwarMalign PortentsAge of Sigmar Core Book 2nd EditionBattle of GlymmsforgeSoul Wars: Forbidden PowerCarrion EmpireLooncurseFeast of BonesAether WarShadow and PainTempest of SoulsSoul Wars: Wrath of the EverchosenBroken Realms: MorathiBroken Realms: TeclisBroken Realms: Be'lakorBroken Realms: KragnosAge of Sigmar Core Book 3rd EditionWar at Amberstone WatchSeason of War - ThondiaFury of the DeepArena of ShadesEchoes of DoomArcane CataclysmDawnbringers Book 1 HarbingersDawnbringers Book 2 Reign of the BruteDawnbringers Book 3 The Long HuntDawnbringers Book 4 The Mad King RisesDawnbringers Book 5 Shadow of the CroneDawnbringers Book 6 Hounds of ChaosAge of Sigmar Core Book 4th EditionAssault On Hel’s ClawPath to Glory: Ravaged Coast Path to Glory: Blighted Wilds
>>98938806That’s nice but why would I read all that lore that’s about to be invalidated and retconned?
>>98938812Because it's a fun read :) sometimes doing something for fun is all that matters anon
>>98938812Why would you keep playing total war warhammer when that world got blown up and turned into AoS?
>>98938798lollmao
>>98938812>That’s nice but why would I read all that lore that’s about to be invalidated and retconned?Like WFB?
>>98938812It’s not going to be invalidated and retconned in totality. Heck, parts of it have already been retconned without a setting change. It’s simply being made history of the setting if TLW is true.
>>98938798>5th edition starter set>Webs of Fate>Kurnothi vs Spiderfang
>>98938806>Here's my read order, check it out!KinoTy
>>98938831Don't care about the tree huggers but I would absolutely buy a half for the spiderfangs. It ain't gonna happen though, it can't be a starter set without Stormies.
>>98938798>Half gobbo/half spider mutant heavy cavalry>Half gobbo/half spider mutant named characterSo, like Driders but Goblins?ROPES OF CUM TAKE MY CASH NOW
Can you paint skaven pretty pink or is that frowned upon?
>>98938798>Spiderfang receive a full release. For the first time, Forest Goblins become a proper army
>>98938798Didn't Kruleboyz kinda steal the forest goblin's whole schtick?
>>98938858define pretty pink
>>98938870Those are Swamp Orcs. There's a slight overlap but they're quite different actually.
>>98938870they aren't goblins, they aren't indian/savages, they don't have spidersthey don't have any shtick in common with the forest goblins
>>98938798>forest troggothsSounds coolI think tow might do some stuff with forest goblins since aos has night goblins solidly on lock. I mean, it'd make sense right?
>>98938895TOW didn't keep savage orcs, it's not going to keep savage goblinsIf it's going to focus on greenskins at all in the foreseeable future it's going to be a focus on the most basic and baseline orcs.
>>98938879Closer to right side
>>98938910Then yes, it's frowned upon, you should feel ashamed.
>>98938828I think realistically only the first edition will even include the current AoS backstory. Long term I think the plan is to retcon the entire story into TOW/WHFB into End Times where Chaos fucks up the world but doesn't destroy it leading into TLW. They can't do it first edition because of the bad press it would generate but they can do it gradually over 2-3 editions of retcons where they will write AoS/Mortal Realms out of the story completely.
>>98938798Genuinely fucking KINO and BASED and KINGPILLED
>>98938905>TOW didn't keep savage orcsSource?
>>98938954Well, you can't buy Savage Orc models from GW for TOW, and they don't have specific, separate stat line from Orc Boys in TOW
What about AoS is unappealing to a batrep audience? Genuine question, not an attack on the merits of any game just curious why it's less interesting to watch (which doesn't necessarily matter for a game).
>>98938915Thank you for your honesty
>>98938664we can only pray that’s not the case
>>98938967AoS is genuinely unfun to watch unless you know how to play the game because the game is so gamified. WHFB was always more simulationist because it retained way more RPG elements that earlier board games commonly had, so in many ways its more intuitive. Also because TOW/WHFB retains more RPG elements, it is way way easier to " tell a story " while playing. Tell an average viewer that you need to roll a 3+ to activate Mortal Wounds on your unit in AoS vs roll 2D6 on this miscast table to see what happens to a wizard that has just failed to harness the winds of magic correctly and is now about to experience magical backlash as a result.Which of these two is easier to turn into a story for a video? This makes it easier to make entertaining TOW batreps, and makes TOW batreps more interesting for the average viewer than the AoS batrep. Where you need to know what's going on to understand what's going on due to the gamificaiton.
>>98938954TOW only has rules for Big Stabbas, Warpaint, etc basically all the rules for Bonesplitterz but it's not a separate unit profile/warscroll equivalentYou basically cannot play Bonesplitterz in TOW unless you do exactly that with the rules for savage orcs
>>98939010Yeah it's a compromise. They aren't allowed to have savage orcs because progressive view them as African coded, so they instead gave orcs in TOW the option to take Warpaint as an upgrade that gives the savage orc wardsave instead. That way they could give savage orcs to the playerbase without having savage orcs in TOW officially
>>98938967>brand new army>dwarfs>1/3 the views of generic fantasy humans and ogresGrim.
>>98939023Yeah, it's grim. I just want to play Savage Orcs but I have to play Warpaint frenzied Orc Boys with Big Stabbas instead? The fuck?
>>98939004I've heard AoS is comp shit at this point but isn't 40k too? I thought 40k was always coupler with a competitive audience.
>>98938967This anon >>98939004 more or less has it. The only thing Id add is that I believe that this is also a symptom of AoS's near total lack of presence in the consciousness of the wider public.Honestly, I don't think the fluff of AoS is compelling enough to most people, in its current state, to garner any wider appeal. It certainly doesn't help that it has had zero successes in the multimedia sphere (i.e. video games).
>>98939085I don't know about 40k but the consistent momentous upheavals of the setting have left me checked out. Nothing is developed, they just shit out random shit. Duardin were in talks of reunification since 3rd edition but it's actually unrelated to the random reunification they got and never mentioned? Actually Secret Shyish Duardin and Grungni are responsible! Yeah, fuck off.
>>98938652Anon, I asked because google lens got nerfed and I can't find the things I want to coomer to.>>98938787corpos are retards that can't understand complex things as feelings and Wants-X-recession. They prefer to pay scammers to make market research and get false inputs.
>>98939066Yes but 40k is also THE wargame. It has probably 20x the audience of AoS and TOW combined. People play and watch 40k because it's 40k. AoS has no mainstream appeal as a setting so the game has to stand on its own two feet, which means despite being close to 40k gameplay wise, it doesn't perform well at all.
>>98938967Most of the channels just aren't entertaining. Season of War makes especially bad content also. Most of what happens is edited out. A lot of the decision making process has to be shown in an AoS battle report, but these channels skip a lot of it to edit their videos down to under an hour.
>>98938928If that's the plan why bother with including the current realms in the maps instead of just starting from scratch?
Someone else figure out these discounts
>>98939242sub £100 battleforces is unexpected
>>98939198Because this conspiracy theory only makes sense to retards it is literally Slaanesh 2.0 it’s just unfortunate that these threads are boring enough there isn’t much better to talk about
>>98939023Very unfortunate way for things to turn out>>98939085Which is a shame since the proper promotional material could do wonders for it the same way it did for 40k/Fantasy
>>98939023>They aren't allowed to have savage orcs because progressive view them as African coded,If you see the raping, killing and uncontrollable hordes of the Greenskins and think of black people, you might be the racist. I really can't understand how wokies don't get this
I have collected 90 Ghouls, 15 Horrors/Flayers, 2 Zombie Dragons/Terrorgheists and several courtiers. How likely is my noble army to get squatted in one go next year? I unironically have no interest in any of the new FEC units.
AlrightPost models
>>98939289Best option is simply to kill yourself.
>>98939242>They lowered the BA box price due to backlashNature is healing.
>>98939278>Raping Aren't they fungus with no dicks? I know this wasn't always the case for early WHF but I'm pretty sure orcs have been eternally retconned to mushroom people now.
>>98939290Luv
>>98939293I would rather not, I still have plenty of Ghouls to assemble.
>>98939290this is awesome, nice work anon
>>98939290Mod ohls.Nice work on the portals stone texture. Trugg is fuckin’ scary on the table. Had a dude running a trogg list continually roll 2 on his portal and giving his troggs an extra attack. On top of being a great buff piece he rips in combat. Wiped the floor with me, not that doing that is a challenge anyway, but he made it look effortless.
>>98939290Nice horns, I hate how everyone just paints them as bleached bone
>>98938609If it weren't for the existence of BCR I would have liked to see Bonesplitterz turned into ice age cave-orcs, like that one subfaction they had with the ice weapons
>>98938798Get whoever sculpted the Tarantulos Brood on the job and fund it
>>98939290I'm very upset. Spent weeks on this guy and now will have to buy a new one. I"ve tried fixing it with plastic glue / super glue, it refuses to stay put and the glue is now dripping onto the rest and making me more frustrated. At least I know exactly the schema I want, I could probably bang a new one out in a couple days.
Apparently we're getting 8 generic lores next edition, so that's cool Also double turn might get axed?
>>98938609Rent a girlfriend and Martin420I have your back, fren
>>98939437Can’t pin it either?
>>98939437Ah shit that sucks :(
>>98939437Fuuuuck. No way you can pin it? Seems like there’s a small avenue if you use a sewing needle as the pin.
>>98939437My sympathies fren. I pray you'll get it fixed.
>>98939345awesome elves man, i've always wanted to start one of the 4 armies. Yea Trugg in his white primer days was always one of if not The last model standing in my army. He really is King of the Troggoths.(I know aos gets a lot of shit for the oc names for races/factions. but I find them endearing.)
>>98939437Had it happen to mine as well, thankfully I managed to fix it with just plastic cement. It seems to be a common issue with this mini, unfortunately. Love the jade on your astrolith, btw.
>>98939351Thanks, it was a happy accident of overusing black for my moonclan. So I used the rest for Trugg's horns as improv. Also, I personally like how the trogboss turn out a little more than Trugg.
>>98939591Thanks! I got into LRL after waiting so long for Malerion and seeing Chorfs coming beforehand. That was almost 3 years ago now, so who knows how long we still have to wait. Sylvaneth were also a candidate before deciding on loomies.>I know aos gets a lot of shit for the oc names for races/factionsI’ve always found it simultaneously funny and annoying that AoS catches a huge amount of crap for doing setting-specific race names but other fantasy settings get off scott-free for using them. Sure, some may be silly sounding but other settings make wacky names for races that are “Elf” or “Dwarf” in essence but AoS gets dinged for “trying to copyright them”.
>>98939345Sick elves anon
>>98939633Hey, thanks.
So... what ever happened to Mosscairn?
>>98939704Nobody knows what happened. Nobody knows what is going to happen.
>>98939704We're still stuck in the gnarlwoods, we're not allowed to die or go touch grass, let alone do both
>>98939704AIsloprumourbait like TLW
What compels people to cope this hard about TLW anyway?>uhm these different leakers who have been right about a million other things for the past 3 years are all wrong about this specific thing
>>98939624>I’ve always found it simultaneously funny and annoying that AoS catches a huge amount of crap for doing setting-specific race names but other fantasy settings get off scott-free for using them. Sure, some may be silly sounding but other settings make wacky names for races that are “Elf” or “Dwarf” in essence but AoS gets dinged for “trying to copyright them”.Just people sticking to popular opinion without giving it much thought.
>>98939867Nurgle Troggoths huh?
>>98939570>>98939557>>98939530how do I pin? The hole is so small, I figured it wouldn't even be possible. I'll give it a shot with a paper clip later.>>98939596Thanks! Yours looks great as well. Here's what it looked like before calamity struck.
>>98939947Make a greenstuff cloth wrap and use that to secure it
>>98939867Who fucking cares bro
>>98939946Exactly what you'd expect some 40ktard to interpret cankerborn yeahSeriously what's the line here? Yeah he just guessed what all the contents of a nurgle warhammer quest would look like before everyone else was even considering the idea?
>>98939704Renamed to Darkwater
>>98939947If it’s too small to reliably pin then I’d go with what >>98939957 said
Huh, Deepkin never got a bespoke Warcry warband. How odd. Make one, anons.
>>98940002>WarcryWe don't do that no more
>>98939947>>98939437Hope you can salvage the big dragon bonk stick, anon, it looks good.
been thinking about getting back into aos with my fiance, but it seems like the last world is gonna shake things up, and our army lists might become invalid. should we just wait for 5th to drop next year?
>>98940029Maybe? Just stick to models that aren’t from end times or earlier and go for models you like. If you get enough done before 5th drops that you can play games, then great. If not then you can make a list with what you have painted and go from there
>>98940002Dismounted Akhelians. Elite foot knights of the Deepkin who fight with blade and shield and are the greatest, but rarest, infantry of their race.We saw a hint of this with Elathain's soulraid in UW
>>98940002Slime/undine partnered with armored Namarti with a Algerian leading them.
>>98940002A bunch never got one, of the top of my head gitz, slaanesh, skaven (gutter/night runners might've been recycled ones), kharadron, ironjawz>>98940029Leakers are saying no factions or models are going to be cut for what it's worth. I would still avoid pre-end times whfb holdover models though.Either way, if you're getting into things and want to be cautious you can always just stick to spearhead before 5th drops next summer.
>>98940037debating between soulblight or courts. Im leaning more towards courts but they have old ass ghouls, and the crypt horrors and the like are also rather old. what worries me is the fate of horrors, since I really like them.Soulblight are more modern, but the skellies arnt as naked as I would preffer, and I dont really care for how the zombies look.
>>98940083If you can still find the old spearhead somewhere in your area it's great, basically all their new models you'd expect in a box.The newer spearhead though... yeah full of old stuff that I imagine will get refreshed rather soon. But if you like the look of the models it's actually pretty good value, the units won't disappear they'll just get new sculpts. Just gotta be aware of that but yea if you already like the existing models...
>>98940068>Leakers are saying no factions or models are going to be cut for what it's worth.Another clear sign it's fake af
>>98940120Cope
>>98940068>no factions or models are going to be cut fNo way in fuck you really believe that
>>98940174Factions? I don't think any will be cut noModels? I'm interpreting it as "not anymore than in a normal edition tournaround", I'm expecting some whfb holdouts like the mortis engine to go, as well as some random stormcasy heroes to be "lost in translation" when they refresh the remaining fatcast. Like how they gave the knight azyros a new model but never bothered to include the alt build with the bow (knight venator)
>>98940057Speaking of Idoneth Underworlds teams, are they ever going to release this team individually or rerelease it in a bundle box or something?
>>98940229I don't think Underworlds is coming back, anon.
>>98940057I don't think this is a bad model, far from it, but I do think it would be kind of boring. Idoneth wait 10 years for some elite infantry and it's just akhelians on foot? Would be a bit anticlimactic
>TQBeasts of Destruction
>>98939290Very nice love the shade of purple >>98939612It killing a giant centipede is super inspired do those things have a name?
>>98940246Shut up.
>>98940029Unless you've got super FOMO on something that might become hard to obtain, there's rarely any disadvantage to waiting. Keep an eye on ebay listings in the meantime though, the extreme fearmongering surrounding this supposed End Times 2.0 may lead people to sell out their armies as doomsday approaches, and you might be able to get a good deal that way.
>>98940246And what, pray tell, do you think would be an appropriate elite infantry release for Idoneth that's not Akhelians?
honestly after seeing so many different peoples takes on the new dwarves I dont *hate* the new army anymore and its kinda more digestible but im not a super fan of them. I dont mind the less is more approach gw has kinda taken with virtually all armies so far in 4th (deathguard being the king so far with that approach in terms of lack of detail strengthening their identity) with either dok (the champion for blood hags is cool but everything else lacks a proper identity) or maybe holds at the polar end where more detail is needed, which is there for virtually everything but the troops, maybe to an extent to the cannons as well, but I honestly like them.
>>98940363slimes mermaids sirens you know stuff that pops up in greek mythology.
>>98940363Akhelians but in kino bronze age armour
>>98940389lumineth look great in bronze armor
>>98940363To be clear I don't have an issue with akhelians per se, I just don't want them to end up looking like the guys on eels just dismounted. They gotta have something to em, like picrel o algo
>>98940442Jellyfish on their head.
>>98940446Jellyfish hats ARE extremely cute.
>>98940369I think the silver lining there is that you will always have an easier time adding more detail to a model than you will reducing detail. Imagine if these guys were all bedecked in ancestor tokens that helped connect crucial parts of the sculpt and whatnot. It'd be annoying as fuck.
>>98940421I almost did my LRL with green instead of blue, but couldn't come up with a good tertiary color.
>>98940508No kidding, have to shave off extra BS off of my CoS with every kit to now make the army look like parade clowns.
>>98938594All the soul left Underworlds when the card art did.
>>98940372I really like fantasy creatures in modern day wear >>98940464Too cute!!
Stormcast Eternals are Sigmar Marines. Ossiarch Bonereapers are Nagash Marines. Ironjawz are Gorkamorka Marines. Slaves to Darkness are Chaos Marines done properly.
>>98939867Well for me (at first) it was that it seemed simply too ridiculously stupid and big to be real
>>98940872On other hand for me it's so ridiculously stupid and big that it tips over to being believable BECAUSE it is GW we are talking about.
>>98939867Maybe because they've been repeatedly wrong about several things so far, and that it comes from sources that openly despise AoS and have an agenda to push? Just a thought.I answered your question, so please answer mine: why does it make you so angry when people don't blindly believe your "leaks?"
>>98939867Define "been right about a million other things"Are we talking about 100% correct every time, or how most are blindly throwing out vague guesses and hints that they scramble to legitimize when actual GW stuff is shown/released? Leakers and rumormongers are massive faggots and attention whores and should be flogged and not allowed internet access, honestly.
>>98940806yes moron the stock standard gamesworkshop faction is: God entity makes super soldiers in their likeness
>>98940442>like picrel o algoLike shitty MMO with oversized headpieces and weapon?
>>98939004>AoS is genuinely unfun to watch unless you know how to play the game because the game is so gamifiedDoesn't seems to be an issue for their SC battlereports.
>>98941198You seem to have responded to the wrong post, he didn't post chaos dwarves
>>98940896>>98940913>>98941166holy bayzed you got him
>>98940913>or how most are blindly throwing out vague guesses and hintsmentioning the actual names of incoming characters isn't just vague guesses >Leakers and rumormongers are massive faggots and attention whorestrue, but if they're given any attention it's specifically because they have actual info ahead of time to begin with
>>98940896>>98940913>define been right about a million other things>are we talking about a 100% correct every timeThis boole guy has called basically every release for the past year in detail. He's a tard and gets that detail wrong sometimes, but those fuckups are always incredibly minor compared to what he does get right. I'm not saying to take the guy 100% at his word and in this case I'm fully expecting like half the shit he says about tlw to be wrong, but the core idea of TLW itself (i.e. realms merge, some sort of archaon/sigmar confrontation, significant timeskip) is, at this point, beyond any reasonable doubt. If it was just boole I'd sorta get it, but it's also the other rumourmongers with similar track records (whitefang and wfbmu), who unlike boole also seem to know more about what they're talking about with aos in general.Again, the details are up on the air, but at this point you'd have to be chugging thermonuclear copium to pretend these guys are not privy to insider information. I seriously wonder how you would explain their leaks away as lucky guessed at this point.>why do you careIdk I just find it odd how there's such an over the top reaction to something so relatvely simple. None of this is complicated or hard to find and the onclusion so overwhelmingly one sided I genuinely wonder what makes people sperg out about it so much. Gets my tism going I guess
>>98940806>Ossiarch Bonereapers are Nagash MarinesOBR are smaller than humans
>>98941495Primaris OBR soon.
>>98940002
>>98941505Abholites
>>98941517>>98941505NidariansCephalimHadalitesCarcinians
>>98941517It's what the kelps crave
>>98940057This should never happen. It's like wanting Bretonnians without horses. Who says they even NEED elite infantry? Let armies have their niches.Make more cavalry if you want more akhelians.
>>98941535We did have bretonnians without horses and we do have bretonnians without horsesYou're mistaking having them at all with them somehow becoming the main akhelian unit
>>98941535Right? We still don't have any of them riding crustaceans. They could be riding giant shrimp.
>>98941537>We did have bretonnians without horses and we do have bretonnians without horsesAnd it was a fucking disaster no one wanted.
>>98941540not because of the concept of a bretonnian on foot but because gw forgot how armors fucking work
>>98941535I would not necessarily be opposed to idoneth being the cav faction but that's simply not what they are at the moment. Bretonnia has like, what, 5 different cavalry kits? Not counting the hero ones? Idoneth just have the one dual build eel kit, and the shaerk if you want to be generous in your definition of cavalry. >>98941540They were fine before the TOW team got to them to be fair
Not a crossover I'd expected but I guess it makes sense
Who's that Pokémon?
>>98941643It's the Tau again, no doubt
>>98941643When in doubt, bet on Space Marines.
Name a bigger ass in the realms.
>>98941677Ghurek Glott.No, seriously, under that assbanner bro has got no cake, he has the whole bakery.
>>98941636There is absolutely NO way that she didn't give a child to hashut as well.
>>98941693The other gods are so dickless. Where are all of Sigmar's and Teclis's bastards?
>>98941643there really have to be rules in place to not make rumor engines so fucking boring
>>98941693This is Warhammer, we're all ken dolls here. Sex isn't real.
>>98941693Father of darkness, huh?
>>98941677
>>98941505>ghurish seas have cambrian sealifecan't unsee it now
>>98941681Well nurgle fatties is just cheating.>>98941730Fair.
which way lizard man?
>>98938787Doesn't affect me because I've spent the last decade writing my own fluff, drawing my own maps and kitbashing (you will recall the fluff was effectively nonexistent for all of 1st and much of 2nd edition). I am currently busy beavering away on my own map of Battleworld... we shall see how it compares to the bona fide next year!
Nurgle is popular as everhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/yumvi9vd/golden-demon-2026-spiel-essen-finalists-part-two/
>>98941827I like this scenery
>>98941827I thought they banned ai slop for backgrounds
I wonder how many times Zarbag & Co have been submitted for this category. Seeing the numbers on what warbands hobbyists like to make entries of could be fun. With that said, I'm a little surprised that no Thanatek entry made it to the finals. I thought those models looked interesting.
>>98941841gobbos just generally have way more going on than stuff like 3 generic stormcast.
>>98940314That's one of the build options but I don't think it has rules anymore. Iirc it would do mortals in 2e.
>>98941803What's the goal here?
>>98941841Goblins just ooze soul in every model
>>98940002>bespokeYour dedicated corpo-slop thread is this way >>>/tg/ktg
>>98941827>Nurgle is popular as everHuh, you weren't kidding. They're like 75% of aos submissions lol
>>98941827>>98941934why is Nurgle so much more popular than the other chaos gods? Even in 40k it's like this. And not just in terms of painting competitions but actual playerbase.
>>98941966Pretty obvious, right? Nurgle gets way more love. Compare Death Guard to World Eaters or Maggotkin to TzeentchThe rich get richer and the poor get poorer in GW's business model.
>>98941966>And not just in terms of painting competitions but actual playerbase.Nurgle factions are much more forgiving in terms of modelling, kitbashing, painting and gaming as well.
>>98941966it's just more entertaining for artists to work with khorne is boring, tzeentch and slaanesh are demanding, nurgle is forgiving
>>98941987>khorne is boringLOW TEST ALERTLOW TEST ALERTLOW TEST ALERT
>>98941966Aos launched with khorne, they're not far behind in terms of popularity. I don't know how things are in 40k but in aos I'd say it's something like nurgle>khorne>>>tzeentch>slaanesh.I also have to add that nurgle seems to be a favourite of sculptors. Half the reason death guard have such a large range in 40k is because one specific sculptor just fucking loves them and kept making sculpts. Even before he was hired by gw iirc.
>>98942007>best he can come up with is something taken from nurglenot really going in your favour here
>>98942018Slaanesh has always been the odd one out since the beginning and in all their systems. It's just too squicky.
>>98942021>Mutations are Nurgle because uhh BECAUSE UHH
>>98941677Alarielle.Mae Magran
>>98942039>uhh BECAUSE UHHbecause of a long history of exclusive association?
>>98942021I'm pretty sure the use of the mouth teeth motif on modern minis happened on khorne first and then nurgle I say modern because the guo of 1989 had a face on his belly. Funnily enough it wasn't the sharp fangs you say on modern death guard etc but just normal human teeth. More unsettling imo.
I RETURN ANONS, finally got the file for a Morga Scan but my buddy accidently printed the generic guy so gonna have to wait on that before gett this all set. Gotta say didn't realize how fucking big the horn on this thing is because all the angles on the GW website kinda hide it, shit's massive.
>>98941538Crabs too>>98941732>>98941505It should have sea life from all periods honestly that would be cool>>98941643Looks like a Tau topknot
>>98942061You're wrongnurgle had them on plaguebearers and the end times releases already
>>98941870centipede guy is the trogboss, while the hammer guy is the big grunt monster option.
>>98941870Ah, shame>>98942007>>98942061Do the mouths actually do anything or are they just for show?
>>98942018Slaanesh is doomed to forever be shoved to the back simply owning to how much of a corporate "risk" they are. The fact we have exactly one fat fuck Slaaneshi model (two, if you count that one Underworlds daemonette), and exactly zero drinking or drug-using Slaaneshi models (in any game), is a testament to just how much modern GW doesn't want to deal with Slaanesh.I want titties and sex appeal back in Slaanesh, but I wouldn't so fucking bent out of shape about it if the other aspect of Slaanesh were actually represented (bar some low grade body horror and pride stuff) in any of the ranges.
>>98942106Mhmyea you got me on the plaguebearers that's true, forgot about those guys.
>>98942114they bite
>>98942114There's no special rule for the model having a giant toothy smile in place of a waistline, no. It just looks funny.
>>98942132>and exactly zero drinking or drug-using Slaaneshi modelsThere's a fair amount of incense-based hallucinogenics in the aos range, and I'm pretty sure there's at least a fes 40k models with combat drugs modelled, like lucius. Yeah they're not going to model some guy doing a line of coke or heating up a spoon, but it's definitely there.
>>98942132>Tzeentch is at risk of being cancelled because it doesn't have any cursed scholars nor mutated freaks, only bodybuilders and birds Sad. I heard 1st edition was going to squat them entirely! Same with Nurgle, who haven't deviated from bloated figures. Sad, but at least Slaanesh carries the setting with the most new models.
>>98942175I like the incense burner stuff, but it's implied drug use, not explicit - it's safe. There's a dozen or more other models with incense burners and similar smoke effects to something like the Lord of Hysteria (which is a genuinely uninspired model in its own right, and an absolute waste of the name), so it's not exactly visually unique to Slaanesh. I'm not asking for a model of a dude railing a line of coke off a hookers ass, but it wouldn't kill GW to have a model smoking a hookah or downing a big jug of wine. Hell, I'd be happy with more fatty eating shit like the Lord of Gluttony model.>>98942190Tzeentch models peaked with the blue scribes, and no one can convince me otherwise.
Do you paint your movement trays or simply roll with bare plastic? Painted ones look dope but I wonder if it's worth the hassle for over 120 minis - printing them transparent would save me a lot of time.
>>98942210I would but I’m also an autist for that. I did see some trays on Etsy that went inside the bases so they weren’t visible if a mini was on each slot
>>98942073wow please keep us updated on things your friend has printed that's what I love about this hobby and thread pure SOVL
>>98942226Can't a guy be excited to hobby on some new shit for cheap.
>>98942210I think basing in general is weird tbhon. It looks weird to have desert bases fighting on a snowy board against lava ruined bases. My opponents whine sometimes but it's a wasted effort outside of intentional settings like mordheim or something in my opinion so fuck em
>>98942235i'm excited? scans looking better every day man i can't wait to get a printer eventually
>>98942253Well shit I was under the impression your were being massively sarcastic, that's on me.
>>98941700no woman can withstand Sigmar’s thundercock constantly zapping her womb (except maybe Alarielle)>>98941827i like the enlarged arm, feels like you don’t see limbs that out of proportion too often
they really should have used the art pose for the model, its so much better
>>98941700It genuinely is kind of weird in a pseudo-mythological setting like aos to not have any demigodsThough maybe we should be thankful we don't have to deal with primarchshit.>>98942210Fuck I love squigs so much bros
>>98942267He's a very cool model, I just head swapped mine to have this head from the nurgle terminator kit and it looks sick as fuck. (gave him a little topknot to make up for the lost room from the horns)
>>98942277>a pseudo-mythological setting like aosWe're trending towards turnipcore.
>>98942073>got the file>printed>scanKYS
>>98942253Your post sounds sarcastic as fuck buddy.
>>98942281ye just like 2 of my mega gargs.
kek I love this reference
>November 5th, 2025It's been over a year...
I haven't been following the leaks so much. Has Boole mentioned if Age of Sigmar title will be dropped in favour of The Last Worlds just like Fantasy was replaced with The Old World?
>>98942339Here's your "Fell For AI Slop" award, anon.
>>98942328>underworld dead>warcry deadgenuinely painful
>>98942339Warhammer: Age of Sigmar: The Last World
>>98942339The name remains age of sigmar
>>98942328I'm happy about that honestly. Warcry has a small but dedicated fanbase that not only created their own rules wiki but started to work on very decent hacks like Wyrdcry. The base game is very good in general, not only by extremely low GW's standards and it deserves more love.
>>98942346>Warhammer: Age of SigmarThat's a common mistake. There's no colon in the name. It's simply Warhammer Age of Sigmar. Because it's not just Sigmar's age, it's Sigmar warhammer age.
>>98942339seems a little counter-intuitive to have the names be that similar, seeing how hellbent GW is to keep the games segregated.
>>98942346Sounds terrible honestly. They should use the Last World as an unofficial title like the Age of Darkness for Horus Heresy.>>98942350I wonder how different the 5th edition rules will be from the "core" AoS formula. I don't except it being as different as AoS from WFB or 40k 7e from 8e but who knows.>>98942342Holy cope.
>>98942339Yes, today actually there was a massive leak.
>>98942366>seeing how hellbent GW is to keep the games segregatedOld news, see "old" Custodes range in 40k being replaced with 30k ones. GW, as most shitty companies, is allergic to sticking to one policy for more than 12 months.
>>98942367Apparently rules aren't changing much aside from the double turn possibly going away
>>98942386I was chatting with a local guy who apparently goes to a shit ton of GW events and he said while he doesn't know on leaks he's heard some general vibes from play testers and internal staff that the double turn and spell casting/endless spells are what make AOS unique and will most likely be sticking around.No guarantee on how true this is , could be "My dad works at nintendo" but the guy seemed to know what he was talking about and spoke confidently.
>>98942399It's been like five years now but I remember Ben Johnson expressed they were really keen on keeping the double turn. This was in the runup to 3rd edition so their attitude may have shifted.
>>98942423The way this guy put it was "40k and AOS are separated in some ways but the things that make AOS unique and GW wants to push is casting and the double turn" Which I guess the reasoning behind double turn is it provides comeback potential.Still no clue what actually is gonna come from TLW, other than cities possibly being in the launch box but it's realistically just waiting until GW decides to fucking provide us with something.
Please, I just want to see free faction scenery and Endless Spells in general to be gone. Reinforced units being reverted back to multiples of basic unit size would be nice too.
Here's an interesting question for you guys, what are your favourite and least favourite armies?I ask because I'm looking at the 40k ranges and there's genuinely nothing I feel like I could bring myself to make a full army out of. There's always a couple models here and there I like sure, but out of all ~30 or so factions I couldn't scrape together a full 2k point army of models I actually like. For example out of hundred or so space marine units I only really like the terminators and dreadnought. That’s it.Whereas with AoS (and to an extent tow) there's almost no faction I COULDN'T see myself building an army out of. Even stormcast I like a whole lot better than their marine counterparts, and would be able to put together an army. I guess I just vastly prefer fantasy to sci-fi.Anyway, as for the question, I love all the destruction armies, I have a hard time picking one for most favourite but it's definitely one of them. For least favourite, the only exception I mentioned earlier are ossiarchs. Just like with 40k there's still some units I like (the new archers, the underworlds scythe guy) but overall the rest of the range just doesn't really click with me. Their lore is pretty cool though.Yeah idk I'm curious if anybody else has like one faction they just don't 'get'.
>>98942073Anon, I know you feel clever right now for getting one over on ol' GW, but think about when you go to meet your maker one day and you have to account for this forgery. You'll look back and wish you had hobbied honestly.
>>98942450>I'm curious if anybody else has like one faction they just don't 'get'.Plenty actually. I couldn't be any less interested in IDK, KO, OMW after their refresh (I like the models, I don't like what's gone), post-2e CoS and Kruleboyz.
>>98942450Favourite - Idoneth, Daughters of Khaine and MaggotkinLeast Favourite - Khar Overlords, Ogors and Flesh Eater Courts
>>98942469Building is a hobby for some but not all
>>98942287can't do anything about cynicism
>>98942493>>98942506Idk and ko seem to be the premier "love em or hate em" armies in the game
>>98942512I do enjoy building desu, though if I can get some models cheaper and my friend gets to dick around with his printer I figure it's a win win.
>>98942531KO have some nice units but they feel like a nightmare to handle when it comes to actual miniatures. IDK are okay but I simply don't care about them at all compared with the armies I actually like. I don't think there is a single army I actively dislike, Kruleboyz may be the closest to that title.
>>98942469>thinks he will have to answer to God for what is essentially a recast of overpriced GW plasticSurely James is paying you well for doing this… you are getting paid for this, right?
>>98942531Real. I collect IDK but hate KO and my buddy collects KO and hates IDK.
>>98942450>favoritepretty much anything destruction. they're all fun and i own all of them>least favoritetzeentch. its fiddly to play and for whatever reason they REFUSE to give them proper cult specific chaos warriors, chosen or knights. they dont even have good proxy profiles to convert your own. the coalition divorce really took that army downhill
>>98942450My problem is usually a disconnect between models and lore. I’ll like the lore of one faction but not their minis (example here is dwarfs in WHFB and FEC in AoS)
>>98941528Ball knowledge
>>98942548> but they feel like a nightmare to handle when it comes to actual miniatures.the flight stands are......a problem
>>98942550Some of us live with integrity and decency, including during our hobby time. I can see from your retort that you lack these virtues. By all means, feel free to continue your degenerate lifestyle if that's what you really want.
>>98942659I can do that with my nagash's little ghosty bits.
>>98942663If GW existed 2000 years ago, they would be among bankers and merchants Jesus drove out from the temple with a whip.
>>98942674>Games Workshop (26 AD)>”I really like the new clay models thatre refreshing the old stone sculpts, although some people really like the hand made aesthetic”
>>98942674Lmao, that's a brand new sentence.
>>98942659>airborne model comes with turbulence built inVGH... The immersion... gw have done it again...
>>98942696>Games Workshop (1700 BC)>”I really hope they move on from producing copper statuettes because the latest batch has terrible quality, wood minis are the future anyway, just gotta get the appropriate sculptors to bridge the gap in the units' details”
>>98942663I have integrity, and now I have Morga for like 5 bucks instead of uhhh, god is she like 100+ dollary doos?
>>98942750>still buying straight from the nomarch>in the second intermediate periodnehes what are you doing, I just get all my statuettes from elamite or hattian recasters.
>>98942450>filenameLol.>>98942554We badly need more mutated limb weapons.
>>98942277The gods themselves are enough imo.>>98942378Leaking anuses, that is
>>98942554I think there's a decent chance tzeentch gets a serious expansion in 5th. The question is what aesthetic they'll go with for them.I think tzeentch has to be the trickiest army to design for gw.
>>98942935Blightkings losing all the excessive mutations opens up that route
>>98942935Since Fyreslayers have been toned down in relevance I think the “South East Asian fire motif” department has a vacancy that could be well occupied by Tzeentch. This post is half shitpost and half serious.
As a filtht hobbylet, are DoK a bad army for a beginner, gameplay-wise and from an actual construction and painting standpoint?
>>98942980They have a lot of skin and bare faces which may be a challenge for someone not used to painting.
>>98942750You can only play Tomb Kings and you have to raid a Mastaba to get new units
>>98943067That army is mostly skin so once you get a recipe down it should be easy
>>98943067Cathay is around but they look a little bit different to what we're used toAlso do non-big 4 / undivided chaos warriors exist? Like are there warbands dedicated to say the great gatherer? Or do you need a certain amount of worship before you can go around investing your followers with enough power to be warrior tier, so most minor gods are stuck with warcry esque marauder equivalents?What about beastmemes?
>>98942257>>98942253I thought it was sarcasm too, desu. >>98942550I can't keep track of who is and isn't being sarcastic today
Does anyone know how to make tamiya airbrush cleaner the same consistency as normal plastic glue? Its very watery and runs a lot more than I'd like.
>>98943278Dissolve sprue in it. I assume you're trying to make homemade plastic glue or sprue goo?
>>98942980You would learn a lot but if you want them to look "good" it's gonna be a struggle.
>>98943278How much glue do you plan to use that you want to cut corners on it? I have the same bottle of Tamiya Extra Thin for ages now, I easily assembled over 140 minis with it and I'm nowhere near finishing it.
>>98943291Yep trying to make plastic glue, I was running low on the citadel plastic glue and saw the airbrush cleaner was practically the same for a lot cheaper. I over estimated how much is actually in there after making a small container of sprue goo for gap filling. It just tends to run into places I don't want and removes detail.>>98943308See above, I underestimated how much was in the bottle, worst case scenario I use it for larger connections and just buy a new bottle of dedicated plastic glue
>>98941693Aren't all dwarves descendants of the two brother ancestor gods dicking down their sister?No wonder they are so short and misshapen
>>98943128Half man/half animal would be an elite army of gods, so not BoC per se. More like order magical SoB
>>98943373>Aren't all dwarves descendants of the two brother ancestor gods dicking down their sister?not really, no
>>98943463Not but I mean are there beastmemes out there who are not undivided but blessed by minor, non big 4 chaos deities?
>>98943353Styrofoam.
>>98943495Skaven are proof of concept that a minor chaos god can elevate a subspecies of humanoid animal
>>98938706>be me>2018>enter LGS>see CoS book>buy CoS book>read Heart of Winter>buy wanderers+scourge+freeguild>it's 2020, hear rumor that wanderers are getting squatted >don't believe it>they get squatted>hear rumor non-humans are getting squatted>don't believe it>they get squatted Everyone used to think if you got a battleforce then you were safe, then Gitmob got squatted. Everyone used to think if you got into a Grand Alliance tome you were safe, then Lion Rangers got squatted. Everyone used to think if you got a battletome you were safe, then Bonesplitters got squatted. Everyone used to think if you got endless spells you were safe, then Beasts of Chaos got squatted. Everyone used to think if you had a battletome for a decade you were safe, then Fyreslayers got soft-squatted(Priests of Grimnir vs a full faction). If you can't apply your basic pattern recognition then let me spell it out for you.You know what the first response to the End Times was? "Oh that's stupid why would GW kill an entire setting they spent decades building? Why would they kill Sigvald? Why would they go with an entire new world? They wouldn't just erase it over time, how could they?" Then the End Times happened and they killed Warhammer Fantasy. And as AoS grew it slowly lost more and more traces of WHF until we're here. Now the axe comes for us and you're suprised? Nothing is sancrosanct anymore, nothing is safe, and now you know too.
>>98943673Mhm, I suppose that's good enough for me.
>>98942750>>98942696>still more reasonable than the modern ones
>>98943067>spent all night breaking into the mastaba of some random nobody functionary of the 5th Nome in order to find some chariots>they're the dogshit 11th dynasty sculpts instead of the far superior 12th dynasty onesWhat the FUCK is my Ka even doing man, never lucky
>>98942132>exactly zero drinking or drug-using Slaaneshi models (in any game)The new Emperor's Children minis pretty prominently feature combat drug injectors and syringes. I'm not sure how else they could possibly depict them.
>>98944039There’s also that one AoS model of the guy with the hookah and lots of art depicting it. Presumably there’s some autistic technicality only they are privy to.
>>98943675I mean... It's pretty much just a long arduous con from the aos studio charlatans. Think twice, and carefully, where you want to invest your time, money and effort in the future when and where these people are involved.
I really like this model. Is it worth 40 usd though at my LGS? I cant find it on the telegram. I dont think I would want to print lumineth anyway since they’re so flimsy and delicate. I’m a bit let down that you can’t give him a shield in the build that has a banner and bare head.
>>98944497>I’m a bit let down that you can’t give him a shield in the build that has a banner and bare head.Oh yeah, tell me about it. I wanted bare head, big sword, shield, and banner, settled for the boxart build. LRL have some of the most confusing assembly choices, but I have seen people give the shield build the big sword with a bit of armpit surgery. I'm sure you could give him the banner and bear head with a tiny bit of greenstuff.
>>98943495Morghur is kind of a minor chaos god.
>>98944510I couldn't believe it until I looked it up lmao
>>98942450>FavouriteSoulblight, bonereapers and idoneth deepkin, which are all armies i collect. i have over 2k with just sbgl and OBR thoughalways was a fan of undead and the centrepiece models for all these armies just cannot be beat. for me the big centrepieces matter a lot but i like them backed up by heavy infantry and cav instead of all monsters type of lists>Least favouritesons of behemat. such a corny army which is zero fun to play against, the 3d printed proxies people make for gargants are all so tacky and will never, ever get painted and it just doesnt look that cool on the table playing against them. 5 tards standing next to objectives. great. honorable mention: Khorne but ONLY 5 bloodthirster lists for the same reasons as above. but still rather play against bloodthirsters than gargants desu
>>98944917You could make the shield work with some greenstuff
>>98944497you can get a recast from war table games for 13$
>>98945002>he doesn't know about the redshirt recast inspectors
>>98945009if you go on penis inspection day they don't check your recasts
>>98944497I really hate gw's character prices so much.
Interesting factoid about the khazalite release, apparently the little thryng model is missing his ornamental beard cover thingy shown on the boxart model. Seems to be a fairly last minute change.
>>98945157Here's the boxart, for comparisonWonder why they changed it
>>98945157>>98945158not cool
>>98945157Kinda prefer him without it tbhon
>>98943823>11th dynasty sculptsVGH, IB
>>98944917>>98944510God modern pieces make me cringe. I’d rather have mold lines than all the monopose BS we get>>98945097Yeah they’re fucking stupid and anybody that hasn’t been brainwashed by the hobby will look at you like you’re insane for buying a tiny 45 USD figurine I can’t paint 10 of a single unit without getting fatigue and just batch panting them, which removes the fun. Characters are fun to do but they’re too expensive to buy on a regular basis This vanari lord is one of the few times I’ll paypig. I rarely if ever buy characters so I’ll indulge myself this once.
>>98945197everybody knows the earlier you go with the dynasties the better the stuff
>>98945207This is why I hope underworlds stays around, even if I don't care for the actual game. For basically the same price as a single character sculpt you can get like 3 or 4 charactful minis you can easily use as heroes instead. Yeah they're monopose as fuck, but so are the actual character minis too most of the time.
>>98945227Definitely. I also appreciate some of the warcry boxes. The questor soulsworn give you some easy knight relictor and knight arcanum proxies with 4 leftover dudes you can as annihilators probably.Why pay 40 USD for a knight arcanum when the Stormcovern comes with 3 wizards for 5 USD more?
>>98945227I feel like they're going out of their way to make only one of the models usable as a proxy now. Like the Deepkin one that gives you random namarti and a fish. Still more bang for your buck than a single ishorann but you're not getting multiple heroes out of it.
>>98945269Gunnar Brand warband has a darkoath chief, Queen, and sorcerer at the minimum, plus two minis that don't have a direct proxy. I don't think they're trying to avoid proxies, I just dont think they're trying to put them in on purpose either.
>>98941693Old World species outside of Aelves weren't created by their gods.
>>98945305the dwarf pantheon is one of the few that actually fucked with each other and had sonsboth grugni and grimnir had children with valaya
>>98945332No? Where are you getting this from? The old ones made both, in AoS they're manifestations of the world that was just as Aelves are but they required the Aelven Gods to rescue and correct the fractured souls Slaanesh held.
>>98945368Nta but do you think the old ones made every single dwarf rather than just the first few lol?
>>98945368whfb used to be based we had orcs and goblins and beastman raping women and racism... basically everything that would make woke gw have a melty kek incest was there too
>>98945372Yeah? Ancestor gods were just the leaders of Dwarfs, they became gods over time rather than having an innate elevated position. Dwarfs were literally primitive monkeys like humans
>>98945368anon, you're under the weird impression that anyone other than you is talking about valaya birthing the entire racethat's different to saying that valaya had children with grungni and grimnir
>>98945380Aye, I didn't think anon was hopeful she gave Hashut a child because of some cuckold fantasy or something instead of a species origin myth
>>98945388>because of some cuckold fantasyAnd now you've replaced one weird projection with another.Valaya is already established as having given children to multiple ancestor gods.
>>98945377>Dwarfs were literally primitive monkeys like humansso were elves
What is Strong Army list for Nighaunt recently
>>98945377The old ones made the first batch of dwarfs, who then reproduced normally. Random dwarf #6372992 born in 2400IC wasn't hand crafted by Tepok.
>>98945415>Random dwarf #6372992 born in 2400IC wasn't hand crafted by Tepok.you can't know that
I’d believe Dracothian is Sotek before I’d ever believe TLW slop
>>98942132Uh, what? EC are literally festooned with prominent drug pots, just look at say Blades, fat drug lines stabbed everywhere...
>>98942209>but it wouldn't kill GW to have a model smoking a hookahI'm pretty sure glutos is doing exactly this
>>98945398Yeah, she was the wife of Grungni and Grimnir. Was she ever Hashut's wife? No. You're being a weird cuck fetishist
>>98945506she definitely fucked hashut i just know it dwarf women are no different from human women
I thought root kings were coming? didn't a novel tease them alongside darkwater
>>98945506In whfb lore maybe, it's clear that the aos version takes some liberties with that.From what we know in aos valaya was unironically closer to hashut than the other two before his fall.
>>98945520No.
>>98945520They wouldn’t have green beards, it would still be mostly white with patches of green here and there
>>98945523did grimnir and grungi fuck him too? this game is such woke ass man
>>98945533No that’s more likely to have had happened in fb
>>98945534lmao aos has trans dwarfs tho
>>98945506>she was the wife of Grungni and Grimnir.But why stop at two? previously we knew about her relations with only grungni and grimnir because they were the only two main gods of the pantheon any text would spend significant amounts of time on.But now we know hashut wasn't just part of the pantheon but he was the eldest, and most important at one point, of the ancestor gods before he fell, so why would valaya be with both grungni and grimnir, but not hashut? Gazul too, by the way, we know he had at least one divine son, skavor, but no mention of who he had him with.I see no real arguments as to why valaya couldn't have been the wife of 4 gods, instead of just 2.You're the only one projecting a weird cuck fetish, by the way.
>>98945535Again, fb machination in all likelihood.
>>98945520no, they aren't a thing, stop expecting them to be a thing
>>98945532Why not
>>98945543That’s a bit different from Reynolds interpretation of them from what I remember from eight lamentations.
>>98945539nope aos dwarfs are led by a female to male "king" who worships valaya because they are born female lmao it's in her lore that she can't have children
>>98945547Anon it’s ‘kyng’ now. Like how feminists changed women to ‘womyn’ to avoid being associated with men
>>98945547You’re trying too hard.
>>98945533>valaya being involved with hashut is le wokeAlright I'll bite, what the fuck could the rationale between this statement possibly be
It really bothers me the crew are generic in both. We should've gotten two crew options with storied heroes for the King's. >>98945561One anon is arguing it's canon Valaya fucked Hashut because they were both close Ancestors Gods, so the other is arguing Grungni must have fucked him too because they were also close. Both are retarded.
>>98945537>There are rumours that Grombrindal had a brief tryst with Valaya, through he claims he doesn't remember if the rumours are true or not as he had too much ale>Valaya's Runic Mantle: This huge coat with embroidered runes carrying the White Dwarf was undoubtedly spun by Valaya herself. At least in one of the sagas, it is said that Valaya, the Ancestor Goddess of the Dwarfs and protector of the dwarf race, fell in love with the White Dwarf for his magnificent white beard and gave him the cape as a token of her esteemwhich is extra funny because before he was known as grombrindal the white dwarf he was snorri whitebeard, son of grungni and valaya
>>98945568not enough space on the sprue for generic and special versions of the crewalso that would have given the customer way too many spare heroes, can't have that
>>98945568>fucks grungni>fucks grimnir>fucks grombrindal>draws the line at hashut and gazul
>>98945537>>98945587>I don't have a cuck fetish but he's paragraphs of my headcanon justification for why valaya slept with men that weren't her husbandyou okay pal? nothing wrong with a kink but this isn't the place for it
>>98945605>men that weren't her husbandThe argument is that hashut would have been one of her husbands just like grimnir and grungni. You're the one adding the weird cuck twist, why would it be cuck shit at 3 husbands and not at 2 anyway?
>>98945587>which is extra funny because before he was known as grombrindal the white dwarf he was snorri whitebeard, son of grungni and valayaIsn't grombrindal more like a mantle now, as per the trials of alabarak? I'm going to chalk it up to that.
>>98945620maybe it always was, and that would be why he's got dozens of different conflicting legends to his name
>>98945605>nothing wrong with a kinkExcept if it’s a bad one
>>98945730Exactly anon, anyways back to my goblin futa smut.
>>98944980the fuck is this image kek
>>98942339The thought is really funny to me honestlyImagine if they kept changing the name of the property every single time something happened>Warhammer: Necroquake>Warhammer: Vermindoom>Warhammer: Realmgate Wars
>>98945741>first edition was age of sigmar>second edition becomes age of morathi >third becomes age of kragnos>fourth is the age of the GHR>fifth will be the age of archaonShip it
>>98942447>endless spells to be goneshut up
>>98944980>Least favourite>sons of behemat. such a corny army which is zero fun to play againstDon't worry, they're now zero fun to play as well. I am glad all my gargants except Ma are painted though, if they keep fucking with points to match how shitty the faction is now I can run all of em.
>>98945756*free* endless spells to be gone anon
>>98945756Endless spells are fucking terrible, yet another gimmick tax on your wallet.
>>98945754>morathi
Man they really slowed down the regular news drip feed these past few weeks.
>>98945821I’m sure they wanted to be padding out the news with details of the now canceled Necroblunder RPG. But yeah, the winter wind-down keeps arriving sooner every year. I remember when it would noticeably start around the second week of December until the second week of January.
>>98945821I guess we should be getting a stream before we roll into December? Before holiday sales and stuff.
>>98945839>canceled Necroblunder RPGI look forward to the few print copies they kept in the office becoming mythical collectors items.
>>98945855I think the presumed date for the next preview show is 6th of december at the world championship event thingy.We'll probably see the EoE books announced as well as the first few models to go with them. Dors anyone remember when they kicked off the 40k eoe last year?
>>98943067>>98943823>>98945197You guys crack me up
>>98939624>>98939591That’s something Warhammer in general gets shit for. People complain about it in 40k too. I think it’s more because they’re critical of GW’s money grubbing ways but yeah they’re far from the other only ones to do it.
>>98946021I think aos specifically also gets extra shit for it because 1) the names are so close to the generic terms that it sometimes comes across as changing just for change's sake. Aelf, ogor, orruk, being prime examples. Though this isn't unique to aos either strictly speaking, whfb had "yhetees" which is the exact same stupid phonetic nonsense as "orruks". In aos it's just a lot more in your face. And 2), they already had those generics names, so the new ones represented a change. I feel like if, for example, 'dawi' was never a term in whfb and AoS started calling them that there'd be a whole lot of grumbling about them too. On the other hand, if ogors were always spelled that way I doubt anyone would complain. I've never seen anybody throw a hissyfit about ogryns or orks with a k in 40k either.Personally I find the aelf/ogor/orruk tier stuff annoying too but I really don't mind 'duardin' or 'troggoth' or whatever, because there's some distance between the new and the old version.
>>98939624>doing setting-specific race names but other fantasy settings get off scott-free for using themI've always liked the comprise WHFB made, as it mirrors the real world. Humans use the generic fantasy names to refer to different species, but the different species (generally) have specific names they use for themselves (i.e. dwarf = dawi). Just think of how we (as in English speakers) call countries or people from those countries different things from what they call themselves. The Chinese don't call themselves Chinese, the Germans don't call themselves German, etc etc.I don't have an issue with dwarfs (because I used them as an example already) being called Duardin, in and of itself. My issue is with EVERYONE referring to them like that (just like how I have an issue with just the generic names being used in a blanket manner in other settings). I think it's just lazy and takes away from the potential depth of the world.
>>98943373no but that would be hot and also probably not an issue for divinity to begin with >>98943673wasn’t it the other way around? the Skaven came into being by whatever made them in the bell of doom story and then the horned rat followed?
>>98945462Based
>>98939106gazul golems are cool tho
>>98945520What would even be their thing
>>98946229Heavy infantry for the Kurnothi army releasing at the end of 4th
>>98946229The role of a druid faction, since welves became sylvaneth who ARE the trees themselves the tree hugger archetype has been left vacant.
>>98946237>Dwarves in KurnothiI WILL FUCKING SKIN YOU ALIVE
>>98946288Kurnothi are just dudes who believe in Kurnoth. Why couldn't duardin believe in Kurnoth?
>>98946225gholemkind were always around though
>>989462882e literally had a subfaction with coalition rules it's in point and you're a tourist for thinking otherwise
>>98946390Yeah but gazul didn't have models at any point in warhams until now.>>98945520the extreme ultra meme factions from the first edition of sigmar 10 years ago are not going to be armies now that they've revamped the setting to have totally different directions.
>>98946390Per the battletome gholemkind and gholems are different things.
>>98946288Dorf edition sonEven your elf factions WILL have manlets in em
where is it?
>>98946550in the last world
>>98942935He’s definitely the one that needs the most creative juice to make work appropriately>>98942959Personally I feel like either him or Khorne could be good with something Polynesian/Samoan inspired but some of the orcs/goblins probably already have that covered
>>98946550Dwarfs only just releasedGive it two weeks or something
To whom it may concern, I can confirm that both Crypt Haunter Courtier and Crypt Infernal Courtier are getting squatted in the next edition. My source? I just assembled one of each.
>>98946691My condolences anonI'm debating getting like 40 stabbas but you just fucking know they'll announce a refresh 2 weeks after I buy the damn things
>>98946691Started painting my zogrok anvilsmasha so he’s gonna get squatted going into 5e for sure
>>98945401Weren’t they always pretty advanced relative to the other races though
>>98946550non-blue skinks are scary to look at
>>98946691That's fine, I'm still just using the gorger kits for mine and have yet to really get to work on them because I've been slacking on painting and bummed out about the state of FEC.
>>98946550if I'm unlucky he'll be released in Ddecember so I can't get a coin for grabbing him
>>98946747He's cool though why would they nix him?
>>98946841Because they hate specifically me. Also as an npc faction with a timeskip coming up I’m not holding much hope
>>98946857That's fine I understand, maybe Destro could get some actual fucking love at some point instead of being constantly mucked around with.
>>98946863>maybe Destro could get some actual fucking love at some point instead of being constantly mucked around with.kragnos's faction coming right up!
>>98946804I bought into FEC recently because I got very pumped for painting a Blisterskin army. After assembling 6 Horrors, 10 Ghouls and 2 Courtiers I realized I was quite delusional with my grandiose goal and it will cost me my sanity to ever finish the project. That's very on brand, meta almost.
>>98939290Was thinking of getting into aos. Bought the soulblight gravelord box many years ago and sat on it. Just started painting them for fun after playing daemons in 40k.I guess i could practice the game with my nurgle units til i get enough skeletons.
With every passing year, I miss the innocent times of the 1st edition more and more. It was peak midhammer experience after all.
>>98946912I think the army's in a weird spot, WE'RE NOT BAD and I think generally FEC is top of the list wins wise but GW has basically just encouraged FEC players to spam ONE TYPE OF UNIT: First it was Morbheg spam, nerf that so then it was Terrorgheist spam, nerf that and now apparently gorewarden dropping like 120 ghouls on the board is the new thing. Bugs the fuck out of me since I realize we already have a smaller roster but having it encourage no list variety bugs the fuck out of me. I was hoping next edition we'd have Ghouls in a Skaventide esque box to get another wave as well as a kind of alternative cities of sigmar. (not literally but you get what I mean) but apparently that's probably not the case, I DUNNO. Ghouls need some love, I feel like nixing noble deeds for the new knockoff badmoon shit sucked.
>>98946912I bought a SHITLOAD of Emperor's Children for 40k when they released. Like two army boxes, terminators, land raiders, rhinos, Fulgrim and so on. Painted up like...3 of their basic infantry and realised I simply do not have the spiritual strength to do an entire army of them. So much money wasted on a project I was sure I'd adore :( lesson learned I guess
>>98946997Eh I figure you can either save it and come back when you're feeling it, or sell it off to someone who wants it. It's not as bad as you figure.
>>98946972if i were a new player to FEC i would be HIGHLY dubious about buying any kit in the range that pre-dates 2015. i suspect the zombie dragons, basic ghouls, and crypt horror/flayer/courtier kits are all due for a squatting very soon. you would not catch me spending a single dollar on any of those kits now. not with how squathappy GW has been these last few years.
Would've been cool if the Deepkin got something to do with Lokhir Fellheart. Like an avatar of Fellheart or something, maybe he became some sorta minor-deity
>>98946997unironically stick to spearhead. the small scope mini collections sound like more your speed. you can finish the entire force in a week or two and everybody loves to play spearhead. when you get bored with it, you can also get another spearhead for another army, but you dont end up feeling like you're abandoning some $800+ mega army project moving on to something else for a while
>>98947064Understandable and I don't blame you whatsoever, I've mostly got new stuff now and traded off the olders (though I do have several terrorgheists but that's just because I was doing monster mash before it was cool)
>>98947064I bought 2 old Start Collecting boxes and multiple Mortal Realms FEC premium kits lately for quite cheap. I believe I spent a bit over 350EUR on over 120 Ghouls, (I lost count) 21 Horrors and 2 Zombie Dragons. I regret nothing since I play 2E almost exclusively, sometimes mixing in 1E narrative content. Minis are dated but thanks to that they are forgiving when it comes to kitbashing and converting. I want to get more experience in sculpting while fixing Crypt Flayers poses.
>>98947069Dark Elves for Old World soon. Keep the faith.
>>98947069lokhir was possessed by fishmen, idoneth have banished fishmen, they don't worship them
>>98947069Do you think he's ever... you know, with the face tentacles?
>>98947166Can’t keep something that’s not there to begin with.
>>98945373>>98945516geg trve
>>98942278Sounds great. Wish I could do my own spin on that kind of thing.
>>98946072>I've never seen anybody throw a hissyfit about ogryns or orks with a k in 40k eitherI usually see it happen with Aeldari/Drukhari and even stuff like Votann sometimes but they do seem to be a minority, I think most don’t care
>>98947195Ever what? Turn Japanese?
>>98946874>kragnos's faction coming right up!Can we have an Ironjawz second wave instead? A proper one I mean, not a pity hero and resculpts.
>>98947242you already had it
>>98947268plus some pity stuffand there's an upcoming character on wyvern too
so what kind of builds are people looking at for the khazalites? i've been playing around in the army builder but havent come up with a list that really feels good. taking enough troops that actually feels like it wont evaporate in 5 seconds doesnt leave you with enough pts to take the units that actually fight back, and taking enough heavy hitters to stand a chance in a fight doesnt leave you enough boots on the ground to screen and score. a single squad of reinforced golems clocks 400pts and the valayans are 22 points for a single health model. anyone taken a crack at brainstorming a list yet?
>>98947268>Ardboyz resculpt>3 man infantry squad with the mask being the only difference>A single kit that make 2 units: a monster, the same monster but with two wankers, a character with the same two wankers and a funny hat>A pity hero >The NAMED pity hero>Spells and terrain shared with Kruleboyz, another faction that desperately need a second waveC'mon mate.
>>98947344Fucking hell I meant 3 units, my bad, my hand slipped, sorry.
>>98947344>>98947350an updated basic unit, a new unit, a monster, a special character, and spells with scenery are a better second wave than you can find for most other factionsyou're asking for a third wave, not a second wave
>>98947268i got this box last year, honeslty i prefer the old arboyz i think. i need to find someone who wants to trade or pawn them off for the cost of an old world black orcs box
>>98947362You can call it New Wave of Orkish Heavy Metal, the name doesn't matter, as long as it comes I'll be happy
>>98947373You're not getting it
>>98947236Well yeah exactly my point, because those were changed.
>>98947373WAAAAGH!core
>>98947377A man can dream, anon. A man can dream.Also, didn't Kragnos' race get obliterated by dragons? How come they join Destruction now (and become the second all monster faction I presume)?
>>98947364I wouldn't go as far as prefer, but definitely the new ardboyz are more obnoxious to paint than I thought they would be.
>>98947064>all due for a squatting very soon.I feel like the word "squatting" gets thrown around a bit too liberally now. A refresh is not a squat, and with FEC it would be mostly the former. Basic ghouls might go though, since cryptguard are basically already their replacement. Horrors and whatever the other build options are called will probably just get refreshed, as will the terrorgheist. I would be wary of building the hero versions of the horrors though, I doubt they'd keep those around if they ever update the kit.
>>98947405if the recent fyreslayers scenario is any indication, squatting is definitely on the table.its possible to just lose units without getting an update or alternative
>>98947393they survived and fled elsewhere, they left some signs for other survivors to find them, but the krule shaman on bird is finding and cancelling those messages before kragnos finds them because he wants him angry and controllable
>>98947461Fyreslayers are in somewhat of a unique situation though, I don't think fec are in any immediate danger of getting souped.
>>98947461On positive note: the Fyreslayers are at least really strong and highly desirable even in non-FS specific lists. And while I am upset about their new lore, I don't think they'll lose any other units due to their role being a fairly secure one in Holds as their dedicated slayers subfaction. What a bitter feeling, but could be worse.
You think they'll be back?
While we're on the topic, which squatted (sub)faction got done the dirtiest in the end?
>>98947613honestly? think theres a decent chance for it in some years time. i only say this cause new pestigors were made for Darkwater. like why wouldnt they create new creatures for darkwater with how much you can do with nurgle, why would they reintroduce beastmen in this fashion i dont think they are that cool or interesting granted but think could happen
>>98947657wanderers. I really feel like the writers wish the realms mainly focussed on ghyran (which it did, but they always got sidetracked with aqshy and then later ghur)
>>98947657The removal of dark elves from cities without adding them to either daughters of khaine or the old world drives me fucking crazy. Technically they are playable in tow, but I will be damned if I am rebasing my witch elves for a third time only to play an unsupported Army type.
>>98947730I really thought delves would show up in tow soon but now leakers are saying it's going to be a while, if it happens at all.Of all the legacy factions they seemed the easiest to bring back since now there's only two kits of overlap (witch elves and the cauldron) and both of those have older variants they could use (like say night goblins or treemen already work)
>>98947817It's driving me insane as I have some DE stuff, but not enough for a proper army, and I really do want to run them... and the worst part is that their 3D prints online suck compared to other factions who have great 3D alternative models.
>>98947817GW not just adding tabs for kits in legacy armies under TOW for the stuff they still make will never not make sense to me>>98947364I like the new ones, mostly the helmets and shields. I wish they had more poses that fit spears though. Feels like only 3 poses are good for spears per kit
>>98947906>>98947906
>>98947613I hope so it’s just not the same without them>>98947657Funny and depressing at the same time
>>98947706Anon... Tzaangors and slaangors have been things for ages. Being a unit in chaos monogod armies is clearly what they're for now.
