Huron Edition >Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ruhttps://40k.gallery/>paint stuff:https://eavy-archive.com/https://armycrafter.com/https://paintpad.app/https://www.paint-vault.com/https://files.catbox.moe/82w72p.pdf>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh (embed)>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th/11th Edition Ruleshttps://gofile.io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega.nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>Alternative rules:https://onepagerules.com/https://www.starbreach.com/homehttps://nolimitswargames.wordpress.com/https://www.ospreypublishing.com/ca/xenos-rampant-9781472852366/>How to Make Wargames Terrain (2e 2003)https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Inferno! Magazine complete collection (1997-2004)https://archive.org/download/Inferno30/Inferno30_archive.torrent>Warhammer Monthly complete collection (1989-2004)https://archive.org/download/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary_archive.torrent>Games Workshop/Citadel Miniatures painting guides (1989-2016)https://archive.org/download/games-workshop-painting-guides/games-workshop-painting-guides_archive.torrent>Current Collage ThemeJoke/Reference>/40kg/'s dudeshttps://pastebin.com/8MwSq81B>previous thread:>>98949062>Thread question:Have you read a WH40K Novel before?
>TQThe novels are the best part of the franchise.
Anyone got a link to the 11th edition space marines codex pdf? The links from OP are only 10th edition
>>98952543>TQI haven’t read a book since highschool. I just jerk off to femboy porn and watch Warhammer 40,000 lore vids on Youtube.
Is this true?>>98952567
>>98952590I think it is, the god of change and ambition is also of hope
Reject nu hammer Embrace 4th edition.
>>98952605The one and only.
Kroot will get a well deserved codex eventually.
>>98952605Are you the guy who plays 4th or the guy who pretends to play 4th?
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!What's your hobby plans for the weekend?
>>98952616I don't doubt GW would do it given enough time, but there's a lot of small niche subfactions that probably need their own books that still haven't gotten one yet either.
>>98952645It's not my thing but I can see why some people like it. That being said, ritualposting every thread for years about your favorite parasocial fixation is pretty cringe.
>>98952689i bet he doesnt even watch her
>>98952680With models? Which ones? Don't dare to say another fucking space marine color variation.
First mini I've painted in a while, based on the Aylis-Nasturcane craftworld created from an old 4chan thread. Though my phone is old as fuck, I already see two problems as I'm working.>the main blue isn't icy enoughOn me for not having the right color on the start, but I think I can salvage it for the others>the turquoise needs to contrast betterI think a more muted hue like the DoW image, so I'm thinking a darker green mixed in some ratio for the helmet to contrast it better. Glad my hands are a bit steadier, but I wish I had a whiter light for where I'm working on these. Still though, hoping these can be painted to support the Exodite minis I grabbed.>TQRead an old Dark Eldar book (Path of the Incubus, looking at them now) that was quite enjoyable. Right now I'm also reading the Firewarrior novel. Good bit of old 40k fun in that.
>>98952738I like the scheme, I think it'll look even better once you refined it more.I think it's mainly due to the camera, but if you feel like you need more definition of think a recess shade/pin wash would go a long way in braking up the colours you've picked.Either way, nice work anon, can't wait to see more.
>>98952738Yesterday I got some really cheap chinese lightbox. It comes with some led stripes inside and I feel it really helps the shitty phone camera to capture colors and stay in focus.
>>98952748How much did it cost?
>>98952747>>98952748Appreciate the advice anons>recess shade/pin washDefinitely a good idea. I was debating on making the lower portions of the armor seem more like a skin suit, but maybe I'd be better off just doing brown wash to the inner areas to shade the areas better. Any advice on what to pin wash in particular though? I'm kind of liking the idea.>chinese lightboxOh that sounds cool too. Maybe I'll grab one once my hours get more stabilized, trying to work up some savings after some junk went down, so it may be a minute there.
>>98952762It was 10 euros. Half the price of the greenstuff world one.
>they always parrot>dont spend money on hooby tool, get your army firstbut then what?you finish your 2000 army with shitty tools and you have every second of it?its like going to marathon and buying running shoes after the race while you do your race in a croc
>>98952726Half of those are different sculpts of each other, I wouldn’t be surprised if most Marine sub factions have more unique units. Kroot right now need support beyond one detachment, a Greater Knarloc model, and to be sold in boxes of 20 so they’re not the most expensive army in the game to buy. Then we can talk about a codex.
>tqChaos Child, it was only many years later that I read the other books in the trilogy. I really liked them, I still need to read the other books Ian Watson did.
>>98952543I have read quite a few, they are not exactly literary classics but they are sometimes a fun read
>>98952748>Cheap chinese lightbox Same. Dedicated camera settings help as well.
>>98952543>Have you read a WH40K Novel before?no
>>98952748i use a piece of paper as a lightbox and i think my photos of my models come out pretty damned good
>>98952543Does anyone have a link for the old Imperial Armour books?
>>98952543>TQUnfortunately yes. Quite a few. My faction hasn't had many book releases but I've read all of them including the short stories. Some are good but most are bland and they're very uneven and not always consistent with each other or the codexes.
>>98952726Nah, marines can sit in the fucking corner for a bit. I was thinking more stuff like Harlequins, Exodites, traitor guard/lost and the damned, etc.
>>98952778You're just gonna fuck up your expensive tools if you get them when you're brand new to hobbying. I'm not saying that to be mean, it's just the fact of the matter. You don't know how to take care of them yet and you're gonna be slow as shit building and painting your army anyway, you might as well learn how to do it with stuff you won't care about ruining.
>>98952543>TQI've read several
>>98952869I wil buy you the lost and the damned since that should be the bread and butter of chaos forces. But clowns and dinos can get lost until they get as many models as kroot already have.
>>98952552https://gofile.io/d/NsjTBLMt
>>98952616wheres this pic from?
RIP every free online list builder.
>>98952616>Cockersells
>>98952809A dark photo with lots of shine is not a good advert for these light boxes.
>>98952943Nobody gives a fuck about your grimdark gungans, their launch box was the biggest flop gw ever put out
>>98952959Mine is safely on a CD-ROM
>>98952959whats happening?
>>98952963What a pleb take. Dilate harder.
>>98952965GW DMCAd the main data github every list builder uses because New Recruit just moved over to it and were charging for app features. RIP bozos.
>>98952968Projection
>>98952971>and were charging for app featuresevery fucking timethese retards never learn
>>98952974It does amuse me that Wahapedia keeps on trucking, even while accepting donations, because the ruski running it is immune to western legal reprisal.
>>98952971What I don't understand is how New Recruit got popular in the first place. I downloaded that piece of fucking shit and immediately switched back to the 40k official goy one because I still buy codices.Old world builder was miles better and is free.
>>98953034It existed before any gw builders.It is also free.
Hey guys I'm pretty new to the IP watched a speedrun of space marine 2 and the new animated cartoon introduction by GW. I like it!Ultramar has 500 worlds right? And the Imperium has 1,000 total? And I can paint my Marneus Calgars in any color I want and be canon cause there's a Calgar for every world right? What legion(s) are your Calgars and why?
>>98953039Oh it was battlescribes github. I sincerely wish GW legally fucking rapes them.
>>98953041My Calgar is from Terra because he's the best.
What Order should I paint my Sisters as? my army concept is low model count elite Sisters, lots of tanks and Warsuits
>>98953041The numbers was a good start, but then you immediately overplay the hand.Come on anon, you can bait better than this.
>>98952554>femboygrow up man
Honestly, I think 40k needs more babes in it, compared to ToW and AoS it's a barren wasteland.
BOW BEFORE MY BLACK CUBESACRIFICE YOUR FIRSTBORN FOR TEN PERCENT OFFPAINT THEIR REPLACEMENTS IN THE COLORS OF MY TEMPLE
>>98953053How much do you like painting black, white and red? Personally I can't do black armour at all so have been struggling with mine. I think sacred rose are the least "throw bodies into the meat grinder" order if you're looking for "elite" (lol) sisters.
>>98953053The silver ones
>>98952963Cope, marine fag.
The tarellian in huron's command squad should've been a loxatl instead
>>98953053fuck orders. paint them purple and gold and make your own lore for them.
>>98953091A what now?Tarellians are at least vaguely known by the fanbase.
>>98953098Weird amphibious komodo dragon xenos that work with chaos forces as mercs, Honsou had one from his time in the maelstrom (hired it from new badab) and some were on the chaos side of the gaunts ghosts books war. I think it would've been a neat lore tie in rather than "tau auxiliary species that hates the imperium" or whatever tarellians are. Like objectively more people know what a tarellian is than a loxatl but that's gotta be like a difference of 1 out of 1000. Anyways thanks for indulging my autism
>>98953091Maybe loxatl will get some love if we ever get a dogs of war type book anon.
>>98953103Cumming at the prospect>>98953101>>98953098There's also this piece of art of them. There's one more but I think it's fanart
>>98953083Black is easy, it's just lots of drybrushingSacred Rose do seem cool, but white is the color I have trouble making look right
>>98953101they also featured in Fire Caste getting into a firefight with some Space Confederate guardsmen
>>98953084I dunno, can't say Argent Shroud speaks to me
>>98953137Well, I tried
My Calgars bring all the boys to the yard And they're like "All my stats are fours!"Damn right, my stats are fours.I can beat you, my author's Matt Ward!
>>98952543THE SPERM BANDIT
>GW didnt just go after newrecruit, but the github behind itits joever
>Not just using MFM, Wahapedia, and a calculatorOVER
>>98953151no survivorsrazed and the earth salted
>>98953163>old world builder is completely fine>titanicus app is completely fine>warhost is completely fine>necroraw is completely finesounds like a 40k skill issue to me
>>98953126My blacks just look bad to me as I can't add colour to make the shadows interesting. Most people seem to either edge highlight and make Tron homages, or layer up so many midtones they end up having to gaslight themselves that their blue/purple/grey miniature reads as black. I've yet to find anything that makes me happy after many attempts.Sisters are tricky as if you stray too far from the black/white/red they stop looking like space nuns and become football players. My next attempt is church stone grey armour with the classic red fabric, black leather fetish gear, and gold trim.
>>98953084Based argent shroud enjoyer>>98953137>can't say Argent Shroud speaks to meI mean, yeah that's the point.>The Sisters of the Order, like Silvana, rarely speak, preferring to let their actions speak for them, and often these actions speak of selfless heroismI fully understand though.I would say if you cant decide then go for a custom order with the bits you do like mixed together
>>98953180>>Based argent shroud enjoyerTYVM anon
>>98952881Brushes go kaput if you don't take care of them, what other breakable hobbytools are out there?>TqI recently got the eisenhorn and ravenor reprints, the first was cool but prolly would have been better when I was teenager. Ravenor was meh... I don't care for the wearing/chair thing and if he's such a high grade psyker it is silly he did not know who dunnit. I will reread them in a year orso, second read always gives better insight. Fav 40k novel, Storm of Iron.
>>98953186>he has officially run out of sfw Dark Eldar art
BOW BEFORE MY BLACK ROCKSACRIFICE YOUR FIRSTBORN FOR TEN PERCENT OFFPAINT THEIR REPLACEMENTS IN THE COLORS OF MY TEMPLE
>>98953186>>98953201I get it, but did it have to be gay porn?
>>98953060Femboys > girlsCan't accidentally knock up a boi
>>98953201>>98953209It's obviously the anti-ritualposter's new attempt at ousting ritualposters.
>>98953222Since they can't provoke ratfag they're probably trying to cause hate for the more innocent ritualposters.
>>98953173Yeah, I think I should just go classic Martyred Lady. It's a classic for a reason>>98953180the good thing about Orders is that thy're so huge you can still /yourdudes/ within them>>98953216I'm telling you to grow up because "femboy" is a marketing term. You're just jerking off to flat trans girls
>>98952642>What's your hobby plans for the weekend?Sorting through my stl collection trying to free up space. Orks are already done, I've about 65GB of Ork scans.
>>98953236there are no innocent ritualposters.only degrees of guilty ones.
>>98952642finish up some priming. I can't paint until I'm done with the semester but I want to be ready to to go when I get there
>>98953248DEldar poster is probably the most harmless of them. He's been here for literally years without issue and always has new art at least.
>>98952971so really new recruit literally throwing everyone under the bus because they get flagged?
>>98952971Everyday I'm reminded why I have loyalty to battlescribe.
new recruit literally flew too close to the sun
>>98953269Do you really think people prefer your worthless posts without art?
*taps at screen* fuck yeah that's kino
>>98953276god the bike with sidecar is so much better than the dumb Invader go cart
>>98953278what if we put a second sidecar on the other side
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98953283that's a devious idea, easy with 3d scanning too
>>98953283
>>98953261I'm a 100% certain he will continue posting after DE do finally get their refresh>next DE refresh incoming. I can feel it
>>98953276>no primarch>no elite spam>no tank spam>more than 1 troop choice>boxnaughtWe're home.
Yes. Old is better.
>>98953276needs a proper tank
>>98953169Image reminded me of the idiot who bought the Gormamorka trademark and is apparently using it to remake 2nd/3rd edition not-40k instead of remaking the actual game the trademark he bought is for. He is already selling merch with the name on it.
>>98953370Oh god yeah, I've been trying to avoid all that lest I burst a blood vesselIt's like that Heroquest 25th Anniversary that the Spanish company Gamezone "made" with zero rights, and got like £500k on kickstarter before it got v& and one of them got done for fraudIt's a damning indictment of these chancers, and of these nostalgia whales who will throw money at anything without stopping to think for a second
>>98953362the way that nurgling is sensually caressing and licking that bone is making my wee wee feel funny.
>>98953362Definitely one of the most egregious examples.
Eldar!
>>98953384It wouldn't have even been that bad if he'd stuck to the damn script, out of all of GW's IPs Gorkamorka is one of the most genuinely dead, they haven't even bothered farming it out to a random eastern European mobile game dev so the odds of it lasting long enough to actually get something usable out into the world weren't bad, but no, bro thinks he's the savior of the hobby and is swinging for the fences.
>>98953370>>98953384Fuck it, I just went and had a look.Man the comments from true midwits are something. One guy telling him to contact "Bolt Action" about miniatures. I'm laughing.
>>98953362Feels like the new DG's tone is all over the place.
>>98953362At least the new one is based on the cataphracti pattern. Why would typhus be wearing indomitus armor?
>>98953470nulore armour mark autism fake grog detectedAsk yourself why he might look like such in 2003.
>the DMCA takedown letter gets posted>GW were going after fucking mordheim and 40k 2nd ed toolol!
>>98953452Eldar Titans feel like they operate on a completely different level than Imperium titans. It's like an anime super robot being dropped into a slow speed western tactical mechs game.
>>98953495they kinda had to to protect the rights. Thank the NR nigger for being a greedy fuck and triggering all this
>>98952543building huron today!!
>>98953316Haha, yeah, no one ever spammed anything in old editions.COUGH
>>98953510its always 40k isnt it?TOW, 30k, AT, LI, mordheim etc all have listbuilders etc that are perfectly fine and GW ignore thembut it's ALWAYS the 40k fan who thinks he deserves to make money off it
>>98953460this whole situation is really dumbit doesnt even matter if GW doesnt have real case or notbut they can start a big ass lawsuit they can simply court troll him into bankruptcy
>>98953515NiceI'm pleasantly suprised at Bits sellers having the Tarellian and his pet for like £10 on ebay, and not silly prices, i kind of want one
>>98953520He'd be smart if he stopped at selling t-shirts with Gorkamorka on like he is (until GW likely challenges that if they care)Sounds like he actually wants to make a not-40k ruleset like One Page Rules, and use the Gorkamorka name for it. This would be very stupid.
>>98953460This guy and his wheeze made me believe in physiognomy.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/xqyjbbzs/on-fanmade-content-and-new-open-licence/No way, GW is introducing open licence for fanmade apps.
>>98953546>Sorry that page does not exist
Ok, this is more or less how I want the chapter to look.
>>98953580cool salamander, bro
>>98953580Nice, basically exactly the Aurora Chapter but it works
>>98953580Cool Sons of Medusa.
will other players notice if I swap her for captain sargotta? I think shes too talltaller than huron himself
>>98953499They do. Even on tabletop, used to at least. You can run them in Eldritch Raiders for advance and charge and be in the opponent's deployment zone T1/2. It's pretty funny.
>>98953601>be in the opponent's deployment zone T1/2.every 11th army can do this now, it sucks especially on the long side deployment maps
>>98953599nah man, they're spitting imageswhat the fuck kind of question are you asking
>>98953616He just wanted to show off his big tiddy model anon
>>98953613Yeah that's true now. Speed creep is crazy. Transport tax used to be real, now it's just party vans with melta shots fucking you in the ass T1 if you expose yourself even a little bit.
>>98953599been meaning to find alternatives for the non-marines in the masters of the maelstrom unit. just been using random ass models in my collection so far.
>>98953630you dont like big titties? ;__;
>>98953452that knight dying killed 100,000 slave operators btweldar are LITERALLY genociding humans and this is why they deserve every bad thing ever
>>98953679This is true. One time a bolt fell off a ship departing a hive city and it killed 8 trillion people on the way down. Very grim and dark.
>>98953599Looks good to me.Though you could add some 40k type bits to it, like skulls. Also Sargotta has a holstered pistol on her hip, you could add an empty holster to your model. Could also add another holstered pistol to show she always carries 2 pistols on her.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/sgde8pp9/aly-morrison/
>>98953713He fucking worked on Primaris marines too?
>>98952543>TQI read one of the Red Gobbo novellas and it was cute. Then I read Know No Fear and I wanted to kill myself. I don't even think I'd read HH in prison.
What's the easiest army to play?
>>98953731Your Custards?
Bring back difficult terrain penalties. Moving through ruins and the like should be -1 to movement, and -1 to advance and charge rolls . For example your unit starts outside a terrain feature, with a base movement of 6". You want to go through a wall into the terrain, to get across the wall you'll only be able to go 5". You'll only pay the penalty once for all the dense terrain on the foot print. If you wanted to advance through, you'll get 5", and then -1 to your advance roll. If you wanted to charge on the same movement, you will also get -1 to the charge.If not that I feel like the player going second should get a free overwatch that hits on 4+ that doesn't stop you from over watching again for CP. Call it "Prepared Positions", a little something for the player going second to at least have one unit getting an activation before getting run over.
>>98953713>worked on the stompadamn he did some fine work.
>>98953495Who needs a list builder when all you do now is add whole numbers?
>>98953731James Taylor Colts
>>98953647>>98953613I reckon it's their way of speeding games up with 4 turns. You get stuck in right quuick. No 5e IG parking lot.
>>98953731probably world eatersyour faction ability is rolling dice for buffs and the game plan is mostly cover hopping until you reach melee
>>98953733>>98953753>>98953771I saw some social media post of a guy playing EC and he said that he lost every single game he played this past year. I want to get into 40k and general tabletop wargaming but that post made me scared to start.That guy was a bity weird, I remember he said he used Noise Marines as screens.
>>98953782>used Noise Marines as screens"I play my army entirely wrong, and I keep losing"If you avoid doing that, you should have a better time than this guy you're talking aboutYou can get a general idea of how units should be used by looking at their weapons and stats. Use them how they should and it will usually work out presuming your opponents aren't seal-clubbing WAACfags
>Start building Eldar list>Immediately lose hope in the faction as a wholeWhat are they even supposed to do? Outside of Brightlances their killing capabilities seem useless. It feels like some units need to roll consistent 6s just to have an effect.
>>98953793>>Start building Eldar listBut why?
>>98953755I don't know that it's sped games up really. You still have similar number of activations, and the time the player getting tabled would use for their activations is now used to stage and try to not get blown out T2. Anyone decent is pre-measuring everything for their deployment and F1 so they have at least something to clap back with when the new codex players are lubing up for a T2 go turn.
>>98953793T3 armies are in a bad way in general right now (besides sisters). They just all got left behind by stat creep while Marines, Orks, and Custodes got loads of extra tools for wiping them off the board trivially.
Lets talk about knights and why they are the coolest and best army objectively.
>>98953794Because I have several thousand points of Eldar and haven't played a game of 11th, and wanted to at least give it a try.
Yeah, that dude used some weird tactics. Even I got that and I only watched some batle reports. I just got a bit worried that I'll pick an army I will suck at so wanted to start with something easier. World Eaters woukd work. I like the models. I like CSM in general.
>>98953793You have MSU things you can hide and use concentrated force to kill only what you need to kill while your very fast and cheapish units do actions/score. The other option is to go all in with Yriel and Eldritch Raiders detachment and fuck some monkeigh up T1 with like, triple Wraithknights or something.
>>98953801>they are the coolest and best army objectively.many (are not) saying this
>>98953807Was meant for: >>98953787
>>98953735Shouldn't be able to advance at all through difficult terrain.
>>98953452
>>98953755Speeding up would be fine but it's a game where alpha strikes can win games outright. 11th mission structure gives no reason to hold back, so if you get first turn on 1/3 of the official layouts a fast pressure army can decide the contest before the other player even gets to act. It's bad design.
>>98953782I'm 1:5 against EC lol. Can't handle flawless blades at all.
>>98953809Yeah but what do I actually use to kill stuff? There's like an 80% chance I would be going into Marines at my LGS and whatbare S4 AP0 Hawks supposed to do to that? S4 AP1 D1 Avengers and Spiders? Am I supposed to throw my Fire Dragons at Gravis equivalents now instead of vehicles? Do I just lean more into vehicles so I can bring more Lances? Do I even run Seers any more?
>>98953823damn starcraft 3 looking crazy
>>98953825Part of the issue is that it is so easy to max out score in the last three turns of the game and so hard to deny opponent scoring that the only reliable way to reduce the opponent's score is to wipe out half their army in the first two turns. I really think a lot of the issues could be fixed just by making scoring less generous and adding more action secondaries that require units to commit to things other than combat. Close position deployment and bad terrain placement are another issue that just adds to it.
How come we don't have a single video game that actually represents the actual table top game?
>>98953839Because the bare mechanics are not fun enough to be a video game
>>98953831That dude said he played very often but didn't seem to understand much about the game or the army he played. I think he refused to use a Defiler as well. Not sure he even used Flawless Blades, but his post made me conscious of the fact that it would really suck to keep on playing and always lose.
>>98953831what do you play?
>>98953839Why would GW ever allow that? The last thing they want is less reason for people to buy their models. Having said that, we have tabletop simulator and that kind of shows part of the reason that we don't have such a thing. The game is a lot less elegant played on a digital tabletop than it is in person and it removes a lot of the tactile enjoyment of the game and your personal armies.
>>98953839Sir, your Tabletop Simulator?
>>98953839unironically cause that could be a proper competitor to the tabletop game which would mean they’d spend $40-60 (with perhaps $15 DLC here and there) to play instead of laying down $600+ to play.
>>98953782Unironically, that guy might actually be retarded. Marines are easy to learn, cheap to get second hand, and almost always decent. The game is easier than it looks, it's just a matter of familiarizing yourself with how it works.
>>98953855People buy paraphernalia for games they love all the time though don't they? Wouldn't people buy models of their favorite units just to have? Although I suppose they'd be more likely to buy pre-painted joy toys or funko pops than expensive assembly kits that you have to paint.
>>98953851its servicable when going on VC with a friend but its still a bit of placebo
>>98953839i mean there was totalwarhammer and loosk how that turn out wildly successful? but then how come dawn of war isnt as bad?
>>98953798Especially with cover no longer benefitting the save. Frankly, a Cover Invuln save vs range attacks like in HH would do a lot of good for all armies, but especially making T3 infantry playable.Like if you have the benefit of cover at all, you get a 6++ vs ranged. If you're entirely within the terrain, you get a 5++ vs ranged. Stuff that ignores cover, like flamers, would still ignore the invuln. That's fine. It would at least encourage Guard lists that aren't just tank spam, or Tau lists that aren't just suit spam.
>>98953860so what you're saying is we need primarch plushes
>>98953807>>98953811>I'll pick an army I will suck at>wanted to start with something easierWorld Eaters are very much a one-trick pony army on melee; I personally would suggest against that just so you are actually playing all phases of the game to learn.Generic CSM or Death Guard would let you play all parts of the game decently well and be a good learning experience IMO, I would suggest looking there to begin with if you aren't completely sold on World Eaters. Don't take what I say as gospel, it's just an opinion from someone who doesn't play many melee armies so it may not be the most applicable of advice.And FWIW, every army that doesn't have an 11th codex yet is going to have a bad time against an army with an 11th codex, so don't stress winning/losing. I wouldn't stress winning/losing much either way, but I understand how demoralizing it is to spend all that time building and painting just to spend the entire game taking models off the table (I play guard, I've shelved them for the edition because we need a full army-wide rework at this point).>>9895382511th meta so far has been "table your opponent by the start of turn 3, then max score on secondaries" because tables are too small, points are too easy to get, units are too fast and many units are too lethal; reasons off the top of my head, not all-encompassing.A lot of stats need cut down and a lot of unit rules need entirely reworked to amend this.
>>98953782I'm just getting into it as well, I don't know if you have budget concerns but I've done a lot of research on the most points per buck>Custodes (Less models more points)>Grey Knights (Less models more points, but look like dew dew and need a refresh)>Necrons (if you go warriors they have been printed to death and easy to get cheaply)>Imperial Knights (Larger up front cost, but great point per dollar ratio, seen as lame by many players when actually used on the tabletop as they are swingy and kind of a meme)>Space Marines (Literally printed everywhere and in every single starter kit ever)
>>98953839>Press X repeatedly to rules lawyer>Task failed: your opponent does get devastating wounds on lethal hits and +1 to hit means 5s count as 6s.>Game over>Continue?
>>98953875>too lethalto a point where you either spam shitton of cheap/splitable 5mans and anything expecting to kill something comes with 4++ turning the game into series of coinflips
So how in general is the 11th edition considering that the 10th was bad? Better? Worse? About the same?
India reminds me of a Hive World.
>>98953891a hive world has less mutants
>>98953887general changes like hidden, supports/always leading and objectives not being circles, detachment points were genuinely goodchanging cover without errata to armies that now have ork-tier shooting at quarter of volume, sudden changes like criticals on overwatch and fastfiring 3 codexes and then taking a breather for 3+ months are a fucking disasterdue to the last one so far it's not an improvement over 10
>>98953891Hive worlds are cleaner
>>98953887it would be fine once the more popular army all get codexbut right now I fucking hate playing against codex armies
>>98953876I don't know what the best Army to start with is, but I can tell you from experience as a Dark Eldar/AdMech player what the worst armies are.
>>98953832Eldar has always been a combo army. You need to be really careful with how you stage and you really need to commit more than you think these days. Its not easy at all right now but if you have 200IQ you can maybe not lose horribly and have a fun game. You'll still likely lose though. Here are the good units right now: Asumen with 5 Avengers in a Falcon. You use his once a game ability and use the Falcon re-rolls to fish for dev wounds (since he crits on 5+). I've seen him punk termie units before.Banshees. Anti-infantry 3+ doesn't care about your -1 wound marines. Decent attacks, decent AP, fast. -1D strays can cuck them but beggars can't be choosers. Pair them with Jain Zar or with an Autarch with Aspect of Murder in Aspect Host. Can run as 5 or 10 brick.War Walker. You need one. -AP will make your Swooping Hawks and other units actually deadly and can cuck AoC. Swooping Hawks kill things with grenades/mortals and simple weight of dice with lethal hits with a war Walker.Eldrad. Need I say more?Yriel+Voidscarred brick in Eldritch Raiders. Absolute hammer unit with the +D Strat.Avatar. Not really killy, but a great distraction carnifex, and helps your melee units with the charge aura.Shining Spears and Dragon Knights. Great profiles, fast. They aren't exactly the same but they serve a similar role. Fire Dragon with or without Feugan. Yeah you're going to shoot them into infantry sometimes. That's fine. They kill what needs to be killed. A big brick in Seer Council is funny when you teleport them on-top of something your opponent doesn't screen well enough.Lykhis+ 5 Spiders is used almost always to get 5+ Crits on something you need dead. They're amazing at scoring and killing screens or backfield objective holders.Seer Council death star is still ok. That's a Farseer, guardian, and warlock brick.Everything else is situational right now. Fire Prisms are still OK. Dark Reapers see play sometimes.
Is GW going to do some kind of grotmas thing and give every faction another Detachment? Or is it too early in the edition to hope for anything for non-codex factions for the next 3 months?
>>98953931I think someone said that it's only for the new codicies.
>>98953848basic bitch marines w/ no named heroes
>>98953886Yea, that's what I meanIt's too easy to kill a lot of units so everyone is incentivized to spam the few hard-to-kill units and it just becomes an arms race of who can counter the other guy's counter harder and with less risk>t3 hordes get cleared too fast with stat creep and blast/cleave (but only flamers, indirect fire is still shit)>t4/t5 get cleared too fast by stat creep from weapons meant to target terminators and equivalents>t6/t7 usually have a 4++ save>anything above this is a vehicle or named character like a primarch, and are their own can of worms
>>98953937... So grotmas but only for Space Marines, Orks, and custodes. That will go over very well I'm sure.
>>98953941Grim
>>98952543>tqHonestly the books are the only thing really keeping me interested in New-GW. Though the encroachment of modern politics in some of the newer books is starting to drive me away from some authors. >>98953876I would strongly suggest getting an army that you like the lore of and like the look of. Getting something that is “meta” or cheap is subject to change and you can quickly not give a shit about them(makes it really hard to sit and paint or want to play when they aren’t good). If you’re looking for the best bang for your buck it’s going to take time where you’re looking for sales or combing E-bay for some dude offloading his army. Most armies have multiple ways to play them and you can really make your force your own by getting good with specific play styles.
>>98953713Ah hell. RIP in Peace.Raider is one of my favorite sculpts ever that he made.At least he didn't have to live to see what they end up replacing it with in a couple months.
>>98953952>couple months.>implying
>>98953887Core rules are fine but management of the game is abysmally bad. App is terrible, lack of errata/FAQ PDFs is unjustifiable, codexes release schedule is a joke.
>>98953952>in a couple months
>>98953956>>98953961Isn't that the Valrak rumor?Tau in January, DEldar in February with new Boats
>>98953969the tau leak is true, however, it will be twenty more years before a true dark eldar refresh. there must and shall be great suffering amongst the dark eldar fans and the dark eldar ritualposter.this I prophesy.
>>98953952The boats being squatted in favor of whatever monstrosity modern GW is cooking up would be genuinely nuts.It's one of the finest citadel models ever made.
>>98953952>>98953969Boats are part of the leak too? Thought it was only a kabalite/trueborn kit and Vect or something. What else?
>>98953998Valrak says Vect on a new big boat with a bunch of aliens instead of slaves, new Kabalite Warriors (which is supported by the Hand of the Archon getting deleted from the web store), and some other boat thing that he doesn't specify.Presumably if they're changing the Kabalites, they want to change the boat that is central to the army and that is covered in them at the same time too so they aren't advertising old Kabalites and New Kabalites right next to each other.
>>98953725He only left GW six months ago
>>98953969For what it's worth the TGA leakers are also saying drukhari "soon"; whatever that means.
>>98953887Slightly better than 10th but not enough to be fun
>>98953793>>Start building Eldar list>>Immediately lose hope in the faction as a wholealready adapting the eldar mindset i see
When is GW going to fix the Guard? They're the worst Army in the game by a huge margin and they just don't play well with the core rules of the new edition. They aren't even rumored to be getting a Codex next year so they have to do something for them.
How is it possible that Guilliman refounded the Soul Drinkers chapter, but not the Astral Knights?!Does the Imperium no longer respect its heroes?!
>>98954030They'll just keep decreasing the price of Leman Russ tanks until the codex comes out as a bandaid without understanding the underlying issueYou will live to see a Leman Russ be cheaper than a squad of Battle Sisters
>>98954076Look up Sable Swords
>battle force on sales nextweekI still dont know which one i want oh no the FOMO
>>98954123They get sold out fast so unless you have a local store you can contact to see if they'll hold one for you, you probably won't be able to get any.
>>98954110>Sable SwordsThe Astral Knights deserve better than to simply be replaced by a chapter that doesn't even know its own primarch.
>>98954123Since Battleforces are more available and also more common (they get released with each new codex) I think you shouldn't overthink it. Get what you need if you need it.>>98954136The guys at my local official Warhhammer store said that they will have two waves of battleforces this year for both GW and normal stores, so everyone should be able to get one.
If someone need a ork codex in pdfhttps://transfiles.ru/2wfcs
>>98954170Virus
>>98954170>Trans filesNo thanks, I’m not gay
>>98954170>.ruriiiight.
i just bought ork codexI guess I will just hold the physical book like it meant to be
>>98954170>.ruYeah, rain check on that buddy
>>98954170>HekatrixDo not trust
>>98954202lern spek englash tovarich homosexovich
>>98954195Orks are men without dicks. Kinda make sense.
>>98954228Sounds like a fun guy
>>98953887just enough rules changes that slow rolling out codices means it plays like shit for 90% of armiesi also really dislike the direction the new codices are going in. instead of a detachment giving you bonuses for how to play an army, it's just>pick 3 keywords to buff in your army.And then just doing your best to find the most broken way to apply those three keywords in stupid combos. I don't think the new detachment system is working too well. The 3dp detachments feel like such lazy afterthoughts, I don't know why they even put them in the new codices. And the problem with everything being 1dp initially is that it's almost impossible to raise them to 2dp without just making them unplayable because of the opportunity cost. You end up losing out on an additional army buff and another 3 possible stratagems. The lack of 2dp detachments is really hurting the design space. The big other issue is just how many of the new codex detachments have the unique tags. Instead of making multiple 1dp detachments with unique tags, combine them into a new 2dp detachment. We are 3 codices into this edition and it feels like it's still a first draft of how this system is going to work in 18months.
>>98954245
short fat balding uncs really like wow forever. so much for 40k
>>98954395They're absolutely pitiful, who has time for grind it out MMOs as an adult.
>>98954411Uhhh who has time to shitpost all day and jerk off to porn?
>>98954423Are you describing someone you know?
>>98954432He probably means me. I'm working through things.
>>98954432(You) in particular. Now lose some weight fatty.
>>98954437hang in there brother
>>98954411As opposed to time grinding out building and painting models?
>>98954411They probably just grind slowly day by day when they have free time. Just wait for the nostalgia high to die and they’ll go back to normal.
>>98954441Grow some inches, shorty.
>>98954450that's an actual skill and you're building upon your hand eye coordination much more and its better for your eyesight.
>>98954453Reminds me of when runescape old school came out and everyone flocked to it just to sit and grind exp. These nostalgia-bait games are never the same as when you're a 12 year old kid because you're not 12 years old anymore also the internet has completely ruined any sense of wonder or discovery for these games.
>>98954458actually, I’m 6’8 have 6% bodyfat, and can bench 600 pounds during my free time when I’m not running my multimillion dollar businesses. I’m perfect in every way.
>>98954460Yeah but its not work, its recreational time, so if you have time to hobby 40k then its hypocritical of you to rag on people enjoying their free time playing videogames based on time expenditure alone.
Finally copped a display case Extremely satisfying
>>98954470I am btfo. I kneel, king.
>>98954494You didnt crop the image and now its sideways!HAHA!!STUPID
>>98954494Interesting way of displaying your stuff, how do the minis stay sideways like that? [Spoiler] looking awsome, anon! [/Spoiler]
>>98954537Mang, I hate phone posting. it's not that hard and I should know better
>>98954537Magnets. There's one under the base and another behind the glass.
>>98954537You didn't do the spoiler tag correctly!HAHA!!STUPID
Modern kits be like
>>98954573That will be 60U$D please
>>98954573Sorry but the Ork Kommandos are a modern kit, so everything you say is incorrect.
>>98954276I can't imagine how they can take many of the Nids and Eldar 2DP detachments and make them 1DP without making them overpowered as fuck or non functional. The irony is that both armies lack variety on their 1dp department.
>>98954395inv to Asmon layer plz
>>98954573>2008 kits be like
What's your opinion on Perturabo's looks? Think we will ever get his model?
>>98954723Looks totally dope, of course we're going to get a model for him.
>>98954723His model already leaked.
>>98954723I really don't care for the primarchs, but I'm curious about Perturabo and Lorgar, they could make for cool models. Word bearers suffer quite a lot of no release
>>98954734>I really don't care for the primarchs
>>98954731>conveniently cropping out the nonsensical background that was obviously AI generated like the rest of the "leak"
>>98954734Pretty much every demon CSM release is a WB release.
>>98954661Don't be a little bitch.
>>98954755i still have one under blister
Show me the best Dark Reaper you've seen.
>be eldar>stonesinger havn't had a mini since the 4th ed metal one>barely anyone have it because it wasn't that popular>still have rules>meanwhile some much recent plastic models don't have rules anymore
>>989546612007 kits be like
>>98954661>has to post a cropped etb starter box sprue to refute the point
>>98954661Has none of the jenga-related problems of the modern kit.
>>98954747I mean they have cultists and possessed, but what else ?
>>98954661oh that's the captain I painted for the collage some time ago. Asked a friend for an old model and he gave me that, assembled and primed in black.
>>98954755almost like there have always been both simple kits and highly customisable kits.
>>98954882dark apostle, dark commune, sorcerer, master of possession, cultist firebrand, daemon princes, chosen, obliterators, and all the daemon engines
>>98954897Yeah true but it's exactly the same as any CSM, they don't have one character for them right ?
>>98954905They don't and that's a good thing
>>98954892ntaWhat kits are currently highly customizable?
>>98954912Every basic marine kitEvery basic eldar kitMost ork kitsEvery basic tau kit
>>98954755>all that wasted space
>>98954932Post the spure layout of the one you have customized the most.
>>98954905They don't have a character, but they will probably get one since IW got theirs. WB have the advantage of the current CSM range being great for them with all thew daemon stuff. IW have it good as well. Alpha Legion on the other hand...
Firstborn lack ranged anti-tank, do you think it's worth allying a Castellan? Land Raider is a bit light
>>98954990>4 lascannons and a multi-melta>lacking anti-tank
>>98955007Maybe. I always feel like my predators were completely outclassed by gladiators last edition so I don't trust lascannons very much
>>98954990Centurion devastators?
>>98955011Tournament setting so no legends. In legends I've been using a Cerberus anyway which is super fucking nice if a bit conspicuous
>>98955009Land Raider has 4 lascannons and a multi-meltaLand Speeder has a multi-melta and an s10ap-3 missile launcherOne of each is far more than enough anti-tank going by any other army's standards.This is the part where you now pretend primaris marines don't exist and then continue to act like the stereotypical entitled marinefag, but somehow even worse because you refuse to use the options available nor swap to a way to use more firstborn (ie Grey Knights).
>>98954958nta, but Fire Warriors he mentioned are in particular absurdly, insanely good.I dread the day they get refreshed. Just like with Kabalites, there is 0% of a chance new kit will be better
>>98955034>I dread the day they get refreshed.This edition along with Crisis Suits and Broadsides for somefucking reason.>>98955034>Just like with Kabalites, there is 0% of a chance new kit will be betterIt won't be that much worse. GW uses the same team for their elves so you can expect nu Eldar tier models. Hell, it might even be Jes designs since GW designs them 2 years in advance.
>>98955033One of each is definitely not enough antitank, especially with the poor range of multimeltas. At least for my local meta where you see fucktons of c'tan and mutaliths and knights and shit
Am I gimping myself by not using Moratirum in Death Guard? I like the designs of the faction but don't want to run a giant centrepiece, I want to run a bunch of slow, disgusting, fat people because they're literally me fr frI don't want some giant Marvel tier named faggot
>>98955049Then bring 28 lascannons for less than 500 points is insanely good for anti-vehicle
is cadian gate batallion with valiant/castellan and 2 armigers for all legal configurations or is it fuck you 1 set of weapons?
>>98955034Right, so when was that kit from?
>>98955050In short, yes. I recall running him against Tau once last edition and he tanked like 3 turns of massive firepower. The thing with units like him is the equivalent points in their army will generally have a hard time replicating their abilities for their points
kinda a shame noise marine barely got anything in their refreshcould have added bikers and a specific daemon machine at least
>>98955059charge your phone
>>98955059FR ON JAH NO KIRK?
>>98954912Is the Fire Warriors sprue the last remaining battleline kit where the torsos and legs are separate and can go with whatever set of arms you want? Pretty much everything else in the last 10 years is stuck to a single pose outside of changing up the arms.
>>98955073New codex. Trust.
>>989550792016 was a good year apparently
>>98955084I mean thousand sons came out in 2016 and the only things they've received since are birds, robots, and one generic character
>>98955066God damn it, well is there any faction that can be run as just dudes and not epic hero units?
>>98955050Run what you like running.
>>98955056I used to get 8 lascannons for 240 :^)I can try a pair of them, but they're much more expensive than the Castellan because the tax is on your second one. It's like 100 points more for four more wounds. Also the knight has an invuln
>>98955094Thusand Sons are cursed. EC aren't. Trust.
>>98955060Do you mean pic related? You get all the options to build the Valiant or Castellan and the Armigers as either Warglaives or Helverins in the box, but you should still bother to go and magnetize the weapons on them so you can swap between them. It's piss easy to magnetize Knights and there's a bunch of tutorials online on how to do it.
>>98955108I wanted them for CKs actually since I will have bits and some decals leftover from other knights and I could use a tyrant
>>98955044Fire Warriors and Kabalites let you switch torsos with different legs and they actually look dynamic as well. No way this will happen in a new oneThey will normally let you switch the rest of course and basic Kabalites should look cool still, yeah>>989550612014
When all the firstborn have been sacrificed will Cawl finally ascend to daemonhood or is he just a vessel for the greater daemon he's serving?
>>98955149He will become a new C'Tan.
>>98955149Why would you sacrifice soulless beings to try empower chaos daemon?They specifically want souls.
I'm new to this hobby - between DG / WE, which would you pick?
>>98955177World eaters are cooler but dg have way more of a complete army you can paint up
>>98955177DG have a bigger range but WE are cooler and more fun to play.
>>98955177I would pick world eaters because I already picked world eaters
>>98955182>>98955185>>98955186are you guys expecting a sizable range update for WE in the near future?
>>98955177I'm also torn between this, but to be honest, DG have more interesting models right now. WE have pretty cool lore, the most metal aesthetic and the few models they have are cool, but it's such a small range currently. APPARENTLY they're getting new models this edition but I'll believe it when I see it.
>>98955189I think they'll get a small wave 2 with their codex, but I don't see that coming out before winter 2027 at the earliest
>>98955189Expecting? No. Hoping? Yes. Coping? Yes.They did tease the Red Butchers. If anything else comes out it's be them plus a Butcher Surgeon and if we're really really luck Berzerkers on Juggernauts.
>>98955177If you can get over his retardville lore the Angron model alone makes them with it.
>we have a character that is supremely angry>in his human form he was named ron>but we just cannot think of a name for him>wait a minute...I think I have something...
>>98955199Worth*
>>98955177Id pick WE if there was any sign of them regaining their legends daemon engines like Kytan, brass scorpion and decimator
>>98955203>this great ape rides a canoe, I wonder what we shall call him
In a perfect world CSM gets new Chaos Bikers this edition that get added to the other cult legion codexes like the Defiler did. At least for World Eaters and Emperor's Children (Plus Doomrider)
I like CSM but I will never, ever, ever, paint them
>>98955177what concept do you like better? slow and tanky or fast and shirtless? if the former, death guard, the latter, world eaters.
>>98955215What if you like both?
>>98955189AoS is getting some khorne shit soon™Wouldn't surprise me if they throw WE a bone at around the same time
>>98955121>2014lol
>>98955228About time. Been waiting for some new Khorne bits to use for my final squad of exalted eightbound
why directly tie the Infiltrator unit for CSM to Red Corsairs?why not just call them "Raiders"its not like the Nemesis Claws are "Night Lord Nemesis Claw"
>>98955250The datasheet has to match what is on the boxThe box is Red Corsairs Raiders, they are modelled as Red Corsairs with Red Corsairs imagery integral to the sculpts (fist icon on pauldrons), ergo they must be Red Corsairs.This could be solved by removing the fist from the sculpt and making it a decal.
>>98955250>>98955263you don't have to use the red corsair bits
Thoughts about Miraculists becoming psykers?
>>98955229?
>>98955267True, but his complaint is the unit name, which is always based on the as-intended kit build, so will therefore always be "Red Corsairs" even if your models are something else.
>>98955263there's enough pauldrons to ignore any RC iconography>>98955267thats my point, it says "Red Corsairs" on the box, but why? Obviously you can build them as whatever you want, you can buy a character and call him something elseits a direct statement to say "these guys are Red Corsairs" and thats odd when thats just not something they do with other CSM factions
>>98955269Mandrajes from the new KT are step copies of 5 super mono pose models with weird spiral cuts that prevent exchanging anything other than the two options each model was built for. Only some of the arms are completely interchangeable. Even the heads are bisected vertically with faces and hair as weird half pieces. New Kabalite Warriors probably will not be as bad though, and I assume they will at least be interchangeable with all of the heads and arms from the old kit.
>>98955277>there's enough pauldrons to ignore any RC iconography>>98955273They're intended to be Red Corsairs, so they are named that.You can run them as anything, the datasheet is just going to say Red Corsairs.My guardsmen aren't Cadians, but their datasheet is. Same principle.
>>98955268>recently
>>98955268
>>98955268I let it slide because the Miraculist is from a 1 year old Kill Team. Not something from the old editions
>>98955223well shit. how about this. do you like /yourdudes/ murdering for the sake of violence, and to offer up sacrifices, or do you like /yourdudes/ murdering for long term goals like bringing about the apocalypse and ensuring the galaxy is hell evermore?
Now that I think about it, why make a companion based off a random unit from a 1 year old Kill Team? I’m 100% sure the writer is a Kill Team autist
>>98955303>or do you like /yourdudes/ murdering for long term goals like bringing about the apocalypse and ensuring the galaxy is helThis also sounds like WE.
>>98955189anything can happen, but with how GW treats the deity legions that aren't DG, i wouldn't bet on it
>>98955308Owlcat likes niche shitentire Rogue Trader is all about niche shit, with Dark Eldar of all things being a major army representative in main story (with GSG and Death Cults in dlc). Word Bearers are the only actual major faction in game and they are tertiary or even lesser players in storyEntirely possible they like to dig through Kill Teams for an excuse to use niche stuff, since GW won't let them do anything without models
>>98955284but why though
>>98955303But doctor, they're both still appealing
>>98955268hasn't the implication always been that Big E was just a warp god like all the others? He just doesn't have the obvious corruption aspects like the big 4.>It's not a demon prince!>It's a living saint!
THANK YOU, FIDUS KRYPTMAN
>>98955316Seriously. Time travel is heresy but fallen dark Angels and Khorne cultists have been fighting the Emperor for fifty thousand years and change.>That's cool anon where can I read about itThe BibleCawl and his Firstborn sacrifice are just another battle in the long war.
>>98955333Creativity bad, competitive game goodThey're making a video game of their tabletop hobby and this is one such change.
>>98955351(((Kryptman)))
>>98955327>Owlcat likes niche shitThat’s kinda based
>>98955269Doesn't look like >Every basic marine kit>Every basic eldar kit>Most ork kits>Every basic tau kit
>>98955333Copyrightable names?
>>98955343alright, alright. final question: do you like guro or scat more?
>>98955425Guro
>>98955425Technically, probably both WE and DG shit themselves. WE in a rage don't have much control and DG... well...
>>98955435
>>98955428that was a trick question. if you like guro, then you should play emperor’s children :D
>>98955482They don't spark joy, they're just marines but purple
Gay gay gay gayWolf wolf wolf wolf Blood blood blood bloodFist fist fist fist Calgar Calgar Calgar CalgarHands hands hands handsMoloch Moloch Chronos Set MolochRaven raven raven raven
>>98955503Orks Orks Orks OrksDakka Dakka Dakka DakkaWAAAGH WAAAGH WAAAGH WAAAGHZog Zog Zog ZogBoyz Boyz Boyz Boyz
>>98955485They're supposed to be debauched, excessive hedonists and perfectionists in everything they do and what we got was pink marines wearing faces on their pauldrons and Coneheads.There is no debauchery (because nu-GW). The only "excess" is in the Noise Marines being able to turn a Rhino into a party bus. The only "perfection" is in the Flawless Blades' schtick. They just feel like they're missing 2/3 of their army, and what is there wasn't thought through very well to begin with.
I'm painting the marine corps from the Battlefield trophy as something one of my Big Mek Dakkarigs is stomping on across the desert, dubs decide what chapter it gets painted up as.
>>98955537Blood Ravens
>>98955544lmaoinstant
>>98955537Rainbow Warriors.
>>98955544>>98955537Praise Nuffle!
This general is weirdly civil and helpful lately.
>>98955177Currently DG. Better range overall, bigger and pretty much all models looks good. But then you might not like the slow and tanky aspect of DG.
>>98955514Hiss hiss HISS hissChomp, chomp chomp, chompBrainworm brainworm brainworm brainwormMawloc, Mawloc, Mawloc Mawloc?!Skitter, skitter, skitter, skitterHiss.
>>98955351small family company still can't afford editors
>>98955347Twittercucks can't read between the lines and that retarded post thinking praying to the Emperor and getting buffs from it is different from warp bullshit being a "recent" thing shows 40k twitter is full of smoothbrains. Humanity was always a psychic race and the Emperor is basically a warp god fueled by humans believing in him (and eating a lot of psykers) so hard that those prayers turn into "miracles" and "blessings". Living saints are just Big E's version of Daemon princes.
>>98955606Indeed to be autistic about it the Emperor is specifically an abomination warp god possessing itself like Batman created from a dozen souls fused together and powered up by human belief in him against his will in a way that he stoically and pragmatically accepts because he is Buddha and Odin but won't admit whether he was Jesus.
what part of the iron hands is actually the part of the cancer bus? Canok giving scout or something else?
>>98955606I wonder if, since Big E is the god of humanity, his corruption isn't obvious because his worshippers are also human. I wonder if you would see the same kind of corruption that the Big 4 give to humans if Big E was worshiped by xenos? Instead of growing a 2nd asshole because you worshiped Nurgle, worshipping Big E would remove all the fur/scales off a xenos?But I hope they don't do that, it would be way too obvious.
>>98955268Inquisitors had psychic powers since forever and miraculists didn't exist in old lore at all.The only two sisters with psychic powers ever were Celestine and Ephrael Stern. Miraculist is like mass produced Stern, gw only has themselves to blame for this lore.
>>98955571Its about to endfuck you piece of shit.
>>98955661Nah, we'll be fine. Trust.
>>98955571not to jinx it when everything is nice but generals in their natural state are very pleasant, but when even one shit stirrer enters the thread, people will begin acting up because they lose faith in the quality of the thread, and moderator team, and then decide to join on the shitposting. quality of the thread immediately skyrocketed consistently shortly after the hack and when a shit stirrer left for a couple months. just a reminder this principle goes for everything in life
>>98955629>cancer busAre Iron Hands meta again?
>>98955655>Celestine and Ephrael SternWhich for some reason are not Psykers nor have any psychic powers.
I bought some Wardog recasts to finish up my 14 Dog list. They're $25 for each single dogHolyshit these are probably the best recast I've ever gotten. There's some flaring but they feel very durable
>>98955916>Ive been here all dayget a job bum ass
>>98955932It's saturday you retard
>>98955935Don’t be retarded. He’s clearly talking about me! In fact, I’ve been responsible for 80 posts in this very thread, and that Anon seeks to besmirch my good name? Such a wretch!
>>98955938Not everyone lives in australia, bro. that is unless you’re currently posting at 2:00 in the morning, then in that case, go to bed bum ass.
>>98955880Just make sure you only use superglue and water based paints. They use softer plastics.
>>98955962Only the coolest real ones live in AustraliaYou won't catch any CHADSTRALIAN playing shit like Ultramarines or S*sters
>>98955965oh yeah? what they play then, custodes?
Is high unit count of Nids overblown, or is it a genuine concern? I live in a pretty small room and interested in Nids, but then I see people with a coffee table filled with them
>>98955990You can go vertical, not all your units have to be side by side.
>>98955938It’s actually Friday and it’s raining hard
>>98955990Monster Mash lists were surprisingly viable in 10th edition, I think it’d be strange if it wasn’t the same in 11th. That way you wouldn’t need 100 models for 500 points.
>>98955963It's resinI tried to test the plastic glue on it and it doesn't work
Boy, you aint no god, you just daddy's favorite,Got thirteen homies, still couldn't save shit.Talkin' bout the Imperium, you barely maintain it,I pulled up to Ultramar, now the whole place contagious.You got blue armor, but your blood run cold,I'm six feet taller and a thousand years old.You got daddy issues, man, that shit gettin' old,I got Grandpappy Nurgle, and his blessings pure gold.
>>98955880>They're $25About 50$ is what a GW War Dog box costs in my country. Isn't 25$ way too expensive for a recast?
>>98956016bros spewing complete shit
>>98955630Big E likely isn’t a Chaos god, that’s pretty much confirmed with him avoiding becoming the Dark King at the end of the Heresy. He wouldn’t corrupt anyone in the way the Chaos gods do. The Primarchs and Space Marines by extension were made using secrets from Chaos, and considering the meta aspect of Space Marines being sci-fi Chaos Warriors it’d be more likely that Space Marines are closer to what Big E’s corruption would look like (in the Dark King timeline)
I don't get how 40k is satiricalPeople bring up the tone, which is over the top, but that's not satirical
>>98956046It's mostly pastiche, but there's, e.g., an organization called the Inquisition that wields practically unlimited authority to root out and exterminate witches and heretics, that's defined by people like Kryptman who kill trillions of innocent people and make the problem worse anyway, and Karamazov who, upon faililng to find you guilty, will burn you alive anyway for having wasted his time. This is plainly satirical.
>>98956043Alternate timelines are heresy, citizen. The Ordo [REDACTED] sentences you to die 75,000 years in the past helping the Emperor protect cavemen from Moloch.At least you'll get to see the Old Ones do the grand tack.
>>98953912I would like to nominate the winde rider brick with farseer and warlock skyrunner. shuricannons on thr windriders, singing spears on the warlock and farseer. thats 18 s6 ap-1 heavy bolter shots with lethal hits, one is gaurenteed from the farseer, and they all ignore cover thanks to the runes of battle ability from the warlock ability. Thats not even going into all the other weapons, but the unit is really killy into marines. Been meaning to try the unit equiped with scatter lasers and war walker support to pump out 36 S5 Ap-1 shots at 36", all with sustained 1, to see how well it does in comparison.
>>98953912holy shit faggot I ain't reading all that I'm charging in with all my Berzerkers
>>98952605Bring the Salamander back, GW. No, the Hippogriff has WHEELS. Updated Chimera/Hellhound/Salamander kit
Marines>Xenos
Xenos>Marines
>>98956243Scaled fingers typed this post
Xenos>MarinesI like literally every xenos faction, even the VotannI don't like every marine factionSimple as
>>98956240Fat marine fingers typed this
Marines could be way more interesting but GW is genuinely scared of it for some reason. Look at the Chaos marines, they're just recolours when they should be something vastly more fascinating.
>>98956265>Look at the Chaos marines, they're just recoloursI guess, sort of.
>>98956281>posts an illustrationDeath Guard are mildly interestingBut look at Emperors Children, they're just dude pink marines sometimes with a speaker, Thousand Sons are literally blue marines with an obnoxious headdress, World Eeaters are marines but redSomeone is desperately trying to be creative at GW but then their ideas are stifled through committee so bad that it's just marinesloppa
CSM have been marines but slightly more spikey since before 90% of 40kg was alive
>it's always been this way therefore it's good :)Is this seriously what we're going with?
>>98956265Marines are nearly perfect, the only ones who want to see them mentally dissected are the same liberal/Xeno scum who want Warhammer to be for “Everyone”..disgusting.
>>98956301>ummm I know Shrimp Scampi has just been shrimp, lemon, pasta, butter, garlic, and wine but what if we added curry powder and onions sauce?What, what do you mean that ruins the dish? Is this seriously what we're going with?
>>98956297Yeah. CSM players don't want to be different either. They just want to play marines while pretending not to be a basic bitch marine player. It's why they always beg for 1:1s of anything marines get and complain about chaos stuff.
>>98956301Let's hear your retarded ideas for what csm should be it'll be a good laugh >>98956302Permanent
>>98956287The EC range is pretty sad compared to some of the absolute degenerates in the books, but in general, what do you want? The average traitor astartes is a regular-ass Space Marine whose Primarch or Chapter Master decided to quit the Imperium at some point, so there's no reason for them not to just be palette swaps. Ksons hate the flesh change and do everything they can to avoid it, much to their patron's amusement, and World Eaters are just angry and roided up on Chaos to the point that they can break their armor by flexing too hard. Outside of Death Guard, there's really no fluff reason for CSM or the cult legions not mostly just being Space Marines with extra spikes, skulls, flayed skin, etc. to let you know they're the bad guy faction.
>>98956320>talking about marines>brings up prawns (what shrimp are actually called in not retarded countries)>carnists literally eat the shit of animals and compare it to their armyLMAOMarine players eat shit confirmed
>>98956328JUST MAKE THEM INTERESTING GOD DAMN IT JAMESYOU PAY PEOPLE 6 MORBILLION DOLLARS A SECOND FOR THIS SHIT
>>98956332Shrimp and prawns are different animals and first world nations de-vein then before cooking brownoid
>>98956302>mentally dissectedSurely that's not what they want; practically every other SM/CSM book spends almost as many pages ruminating on the transhuman condition as they do on bolters doing their thing.
>>98956332nta but shrimp and prawn are different species>t. got bored about a few weeks ago and google'd the difference between shrimp and prawnshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prawn#Shrimp_vs._prawn
>>98956332>>brings up prawnsdifferent speciesthat's like calling every canine 'Labradors' and getting mad that Americans don't call grey wolves Labradors>carnists literally eat the shit of animals and compare it to their armymy mother taught me de-veining and we were poor
my minis have not been painted for over a month. havent thought about 40k for at least a few weeks. who here wow forever addict?
>>98956368MMOs suck
I'm not going to get a Helhunt Lance box, am I?
>>98956368sup unc. how’s ur nostalgia bait game for single childless loser millennials going?
>>98956387its alright, most of us are dads (albeit a few singles dads but dads nonetheless)
>>98956336Space Marines are already interesting and relatable, and modelwise there are several factions that need a refresh more than SM+CSM+cults do.
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