which /smg/ will win. Im biased and rooting for my kompensator, its 1/35 tho broski

>>11527261
this thread was made first so I hope this one wins

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>>11527261
>OP that has an anon's build in pic
>OP made by some neurotic tranny trying to force xir dumb groupbuild that nobody cares about or participates in, with an OP image straight off reddit
The world wonders.

>>11527301
>OP made by some neurotic tranny trying to force xir dumb groupbuild that nobody cares about or participates in, with an OP image straight off reddit
what the fuck are you talking about?

>>11527337
The other thread, obviously dum-dum.

>>11527261
I’m a new fag to /smg/ so I’m just going to lurk more and not have an opinion.

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I love him so much but I hate resin

>>11527247
Sorry guys, I was out for most of the day and just got back. Thanks to the guy behind the OP.

>>11527537
Also, no clue on who the fuck made the other thread. The GB wasn't my idea to start with, but I suggested the poll. Either way, nobody is doing the GB, so it is as good as dead, anyway.

Sorry for being the gigatard these past two threads.

>>11527537
no problem dude
>>11527541
it's all good, they do GB on other boards so it's not a big deal, plus you tried and that's all jesus ask of you

What is a cheap and easy to build replica of something that looks cool.
I don't want to get into this hobby I just want one thing to look at on my desk.

>>11527620
what are you into

>>11527620
I am going to throw my hat in the ring and say look at 1/144 aircraft (avoid the Academy and Trumpeter kits that sell for $4-5) or 1/72 tanks in general. Submarines are usually easy to build too, but please show us what you are looking at first.

P.S: Zvezda's 1/144 aircraft range is very beginner friendly and they come with display stands.

>>11527620
Start with a subject of what you are looking for. Do you like planes, trains, tanks or cars?

>>11527620
what replica do you want to build?

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>broke 0.5mm nozzle by accident
>peeled the paint off my f-22 like an idiot
>tried re-adding primer to effected areas
>primer just made things worse
>panic and get finger prints everywhere on the kit
>kit is now completely ruined
When it rains it pours anons

I bought an open box car kit that was missing the wheels and tires, as well as a few other things like the engine. I didn't think this would be a problem because I bought some 3D printed alternatives to the missing parts, but the wheels didn't come with any tires. I can't find anyone printing tires in that size, and the guy who sold me the wheels doesn't either. What should I do?
I don't have the ability to model or print my own stuff.

>>11527620
metal earth might be more your speed

>>11528741
a kit is never ruined, I learned this recently. just strip the paint and start over.

>>11528807
lol, lmao even
I guess you could make the tires out of putty but it will most likely look like shit.

How do printed resin sellers manage to create parts that are dimensionally correct enough to fit to plastic kits? I thought that was a weakness of resin 3D printing?

>>11529261
You do a test print. Like what do you think bro? :D

>>11528807
There are a million different aftermarket wheel sets for car kits. Surely you can find one that works for your car.

>>11529262
I'm talking about what I thought was the perceived limitations of resin printing (dimensional accuracy) not sizing your prints correctly

>>11529265
Sizing your prints correctly IS the prerequisite to dimensional accuracy you absolute muppet.
Unless you are some mongoloid that overcooks your prints to look like Michelin men and spend over 5 seconds actually properly supporting the print to avoid any shifting or stretching, it will be the size you print them as.

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>have like ten kits started
>have like five kits in perpetual 99% done purgatory
>Takom Type-69 just arrived this week
>didn't even look into the box yet
>already have a T-54 like 20% done
>"I should do a Tiran"
Opinions on spending the money in escorts instead?

>>11529369
>Takom Type-69 just arrived this week
I want to get it to make another battlemaster tank attempt, it's on sale at the hobby shop, but I am waiting for an H39 and a somua with a R35 in the oven
I ran out of storage space for the kits I have started and are in limbo

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>>11529390
I just wanna round off the Persian Gulf collection. I already have an Iranian Chieftain and a British Challenger 1, might as well build something Iraqi.

But now I also want to round off the modernized T-54/55 collection, to get a 105mm L7 gun Tiran and a T-55AM to complement the the 105mm L7 gun Type-59 and export Type-69 that I haven't even started yet.

>>11529261
>>11529265
Even balls cheap resin printers are shockingly accurate with extremely high repeatability these days. Like shockingly so. If you have a model kit you're making idfk new jet nozzles for and you adjust until it fits, it's gonna fit the next time too.

You know that SLA and DLP are recognized and widely used production technologies right? And have been for years and years? Like it's not only hobbyists that use these things it's used for serious products in defense, medical and scientific applications, not just "antenna kit for american wwii armor". Most people that will tell you online about how bad resin printers are tend to be boomers that can't accept the world has moved on from injection molded and resin cast parts (resin cast parts are far less accurate than resin printed) for ultra low volume products

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Have any of you used squiggly lines pre-shading, like on a plane, but on a tank?

The Chally 1 is about to enter base-coating phase and I wonder if I should do it. Probably not though, since these tanks had a desert paintjob that was only a few months old at the worst.

Why are we dead?

anyone know if ScaleWorx is still around?
fucker has the only 1/48 alouette on the planet and I would like to buy at least one

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>>11531548
I bet these losers have 'friends' and 'social lives'
not me, disassembled and prepped the monster for painting. The roadwheels have a mounting hole while the suspension arms have a much shorter mounting pin, which means gluing toothpicks in place should not fuck up the fit like I've had happen to me before. Also did a pretty good cleaning of the bench, as well as the rest of the house.

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Chad. Finished my f16. Second kit. happy overall but there were a lot of mistakes along the way. Got two Edouard Zeroes and a Tamiya F35A on deck

>>11531548
I'm only really actively building from november until whenever it gets warm enough to go out and do other stuff so there's nothing to post unless you wanna discuss new releases autistically (literally who cares about spitfire release number 384598754 or sherman tank variant 82981932)

>>11531705
Don't be that noob, paint your canopy. You're never gonna get good if you don't paint it so stop being a bitch, paint it. Your surfaces look decently smooth so you can't even hide behind being completely useless and it's really making that build look much worse than it is that you haven't bothered

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Painted the Chally 1 about halfway before my compressor got hot and the line kept filling with condensation and my airbrush spitting. Modern MBT's eat so much paint, next build is going to be a tankette or a 4x4.

Also I saw a WH40K modeller shade a Predator tank in an interesting way, and I tried it myself. You don't make the top half of a panel lighter, and do a gradient toward a darker bottom, you do the opposite.

Also I'm still trash at taking photos after sundown, but the color I used is actually the very vivid British desert yellow, Light Stone no.61.

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You can kinda see the gradient here on the TOGS sight and the side-skirt add-on armor. Hope it works out.

I'll do the rear of the tank tomorrow if all goes right.

I'm about ready to give up airbrushing for the season. No matter what I do the stupid fucking airbrush keeps spitting out water despite TWO FUCKING WATER TRAPS being present between the compressor and it. I genuinely don't know what to do anymore. I already tried buying a replacement regulator/water trap which didn't fix it, and I just bought an inline filter that goes onto the line itself, which also doesn't trap anything either. The bowl never has any pools

I don't fucking get it. The compressor is inside, in my dry, air conditioned room. There shouldn't be THIS MUCH FUCKING MOISTURE IN THE AIR.

>>11531795
Try running it without the ac on or getting a dehumidifier

>>11531795
Just accept you're on a time limit.

>>11531801
and that time limit is the 0.000005 ms before it immediately sprays out water again

>>11531795
>I don't fucking get it. The compressor is inside, in my dry, air conditioned room. There shouldn't be THIS MUCH FUCKING MOISTURE IN THE AIR.

Giving up for the season, so it works during the winter? Sounds like your room is not as dry as you think. If an ac is oversized for the room/house it will bring the temperature down quickly but not run long enough to dehumidify. Get a hygrometer to get some actual readings, or just a dehumidifier.

>hornets build nest over spraying patio
>take them out with a broom
>one of them gets me on the wrist
>left forearm now swollen and itchy
cocksuckers

>>11531795
Just use a brush bro

>>11531548
Because I have been out all day once again. I did finish a kit recently, but I am too embarrassed to show the results, truth be told.

>>11531548
I got conscripted to pretend to be a handyman by my greedy loving family for the last 3 weekends because some pipe burst in the yard

>>11530940
No, pre-shading is retarded and I will stand by that statement.

>>11531705
Clean. As the other anon said, do the canopy, you seem to be able to paint within the lines at least.
Also clean your ancient stovetop, bitch.

>>11531795
Had the same issue and I genuinely don't remember how I fixed it. I think the moisture trap might have been saturated so I flushed it out several times over a day or so, maybe that was it. It was a very wet period in terms of air humidity.

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how do I get that kind of gritty dirt look? I always struggle with figuring out how to drybrush/wash/coat, etc. I can pain the base layer of paint, but I never know what to do next.

>>11532424
I expect it's a brown enamel or oil wash applied, then mostly removed

>>11532424
What the other anon said. Oils are easier to blend, enamels are kind of more on/off. Then drybrush on the raised areas.

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Trying out this whole decanting thing with chrome spray paint. I have a paint pen but the "brush strokes" are too obvious on big parts like bumpers and I didn't want to pay $40 for a single can of the Revell chrome spray paint. This was $18 for almost twice the volume.
I've heard I have to leave it with the lid off for a day so it can off gas or something. When I go to use this in my airbrush, what do I thin it with, if I even need to at all? I made a bit of a mess when putting it in the jar and it cleaned up with mineral spirits, so its probably that right?

>>11532424
oh nice, someones building a boat

>>11532761
>$40 for a single can of the Revell chrome spray paint
do carfags really

>>11532724
>$40 for a single can of the Revell chrome spray paint
lol wtf?

>>11531548
New 4chan captcha system + left the site touched grass and all that, so I haven’t posted in a year
But it’s nice to see some people still around like blue bench guy

>>11532989
Also my entire country’s been rangebanned from posting pics, so what’s the point anymore? Guess I gotta go back to either plebbit or the boomer forums.
Anyway, check out this thing I spent 12 hours weathering with nothing but oil paint, because I read one Mike Rinaldi book and thought “hey I can do that” https://i.imgur.com/PBDDoUk.jpeg

>>11532991
Where do you live, r*ssia?

>>11531548
Haven't built or painted since April or so when it became warm enough to do other things.
Come autumn I will certainly be back in the cave again.

>>11532992
T*iwan

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>>11532911
>>11532965

>>11533010
Oh, that's okay, better china.

>>11533011
Do burgerstanis really?

>>11533013
considering how many boomers I see complaining that a pot of paint is $4 and kits are $30+ now I dont really know who is actually buying the revell chrome

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also on the topic of chrome, not sure why I'm having so much trouble stripping it from this kit. I'm using the same bleach spray I always have, which typically has it all gone within 20 minutes. This stuff has been soaking overnight and its clearly still mostly there

>>11533014
>Kits are $30 now
I still see decent kits being sold for less than that.

I was at hobbytown yesterday and even basic box car models are $25 and i saw many in the $30 range. It's annoying because though the packaging may be new, I have no idea if the molds inside are 50 years old or if they made a modern tooling. I dont want to drop money on a model only to find out its still as shitty as it was then

>>11533087
Here's a straightforward thing to assume on car models: the tool is about as old as the subject. Minus up to 5 years but thereabouts. There's no business model that makes sense in making a new america-specific boomer automobile tooling for the 20 boomers that still obsess about them. AMT kits are hard to find outside of North America for instance so just assume, and be right in 99% of cases, that the tool is the age of the subject. It even holds true much later, none of the cool 90s rally car tools are from 2024 you know. If you want higher quality you're gonna have to order a resin print of one.

>>11533230
I had a feeling that would be the case. There are some model subjects that do get retooling occasionaly, but i think it would have to state clearly on the box if it was.

Based on what you said, my best best to would be research the car kits I see and get reviews from people who have built them so I have idea if it will be a quick nice build or a frustrating warped, misaligned eges, sanding, uneven build.

I bought one of the cheapest models off HobbyLinc a few years ago (Dutch Man O War ship) and it was absolute dogshit and i never finished it lol

>>11533255
In general for car models you can trust the Japanese brands, they're pretty solid (even though detail grade may vary, they certainly fit). If you're into anything else I'd go on youtube and avoid any video posted by a 68 year old Hoss that clearly never built anything but AMT kits and has no idea how shit they are

Can anyone tell me what nu-KP, AML, Admiral and AZModel kits are like. I am interested in some of their catalogue, but I do not know how good (or bad) they are.

>>11533087
Scalemates will be your friend.

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black primer was running low and the dregs were clogging my airbrush, so the kompensator is on hold for a bit. Immediately jumped into a HIMARs for my first foray into modern subjects.

>>11532989
>But it’s nice to see some people still around like blue bench guy
I will never stop being a retarded menace

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Okay, so here's the Chally 1 in daylight, minus the frontal addon armor. I think you can see the gradient now between the top and bottom of surfaces.

I don't know if I should further enhance the effect with a lightened base color. Right now it's just mahogany primer and base color. Or just move forward with painting the details.

Also the only Light Stone 61 I could find is laquer-based. Will enamel washes or oil paints eat into it? If so I'm kinda fucked on weathering.

>>11533572
I must be white box anon then, since my desk is embarrassingly messy.

>>11533358
>KP
>AZModel
I too am tempted by fruity seaplanes

>>11533738
>Will enamel washes or oil paints eat into it?
No.

>>11534275
Okay. Still probably better to spray the hull floor and try it out there.

is there a resource where I can learn about paint basics like, enamels, acrylics, lacquers, washes, drybrushing, thinning etc. and what situation to to use what and when

>>11534357
Youtube
https://torbobit.net/wzp5ngr37asb.html

>>11534450
why did you share this pdf in the shittiest way possible?

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>bought dehumidifier
>has been running last couple days
>heavy storm last night but sunny all day
>actually a decent amout of water in the tank
>dehumidifer still running while at work
>get home from work and start painting model
>airbrush sprays fucking water

>>11534796
Are you sure there isn't a problem with your airbrush seal?
Does it only spray water after you press down on the trigger?

>>11535039
it sprays water as soon as you turn on airflow

>>11534796
do you live in a swamp or something

>>11534796
Erm, that sounds weird. When was the last time you let the water out of the pressure tank of your airbrush compressor? There should be a screw on the bottom of the tank.

>>11532424
Basecoat is unmixed?
Since you use brushes you can take whatever colour you use for wood and give small additions of brown/black/red/yellow and paint over in parts, this should be subtle enough to not create visible borders and makes the deck look more alive. Ideally do that while the paint is very fresh or still wet, issue can be however in avoiding brushmarks.
This should look good but too pristine and colourfull.
As for wether drybrush or wash next, there's no established modus operandi fro me, either sequence works. In case of doubt use too little colour for a wash, make sure it covers the area quickly and has no puddles of waterized paint, those create thin beaches which are horrible.
Drybrush with the basecolour in mixes with white and white-brown, here again, rather too little than too much

>>11535187
apparently so
>>11535197
I dont have a tank but I do regularly open the water trap on the pressure regulator.

Has anybody used Zero Paints? Thoughts?
Is there anything I should know building car models when I am used to only armour and aircraft up to now?

>144 scale

I got some questions

I have some 144 scales migs and Gundam stuff

I'm going to try to paint them
But I really confused about the nozzles and vents

With gunpla they usually have the inside of nozzles and vents painted red with black for the center to emulate how jet engine besides the actual nozzle, the hole without any light is just a black hole

But if we actually shrink the real thing down to 144 scale, would the black part even be noticeable or it would be part of the red when you see it through human eyes?

So my question is do we even need to paint the black parts for vents and nozzles?

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>people do after-market barrels or resin hull variants for Meng World War Toons tanks
>no one does tracks for them
I HATE THESE SHITTY TRACKS

>>11535931
Can you show what kind of compressor that is? I had a compressor where that problem also occured. The condensation can form in the compressor itself or also in the air hose. After your water trap so to say.

>>11536087
Probably, but it would be very small, since it is GunPla, I would recommend for you to ask GPPG.

>>11536024
I bought a couple they look nice on the shelf and very color accurate. Haven't tried painting with them at all though because I haven't gotten around to paint the intended models

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i got some old testors bottles that are mostly dried out, can I add them thinner to them to bring it back to life or are they fucked

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>>11536474
i really miss how easy the labels were to read back then, before they had to shove in paragraphs of warning messages in 3 langauges

>>11536474
>can I add them thinner to them to bring it back to life
Yes and then you can go into the local mine to get some coal for your steam engine in order to power your airbrush.

It's 2025, you are allowed and able to use actual good, user friendly paints. For all the shit americans give the europoors, you really are living in the 19th century...

>>11536534
whats your problem with testors

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>>11536168

>>11536474
>>11536477
yeah, I have a bunch of testors and model master paint from over a decade ago and most of the ones that were dried out I was able to bring back with a bunch of thinner and stirring the shit out of it

its fine paint that works but theres definitely better stuff out there these days

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How do you make a miniature manchukuo diorama?

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lmao what the hell, I think I've found the worst box art ever for an injection kit made this decade

>>11537348
I suspect Trumpeter "traces" paintings over real life photos like a mediocre Deviantart artist. Also that looks like bit of a cash-grab kit. It's not the historically noteworthy Moscow version, just some obscure variant with one sprue different.

First time actually painting using Tamiya colors (XF-28) and it lays down quite nicely actually. I'd only ever used X19 smoke for tinting clear parts and exhaust staining previously
still spraying water out of the airbrush but it at least didn't seem to ruin my paintjob thank fucking god

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>>11537696
forgot my fucking picture because im a goddam retard

What do you guys think about this guy's work?
https://www.myminifactory.com/users/Counlane%20Models
Could be fun to do if you're more into the painting and diorama stuff than the kit building aspect

>>11533738
nice work dude

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>>11537663
Not really a cash grab, the other T-80UD got criticized for having the wrong engine deck, this "early" variant is their attempt to fix that.

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>>11537911
So which one was in Moscow?

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>>11537663
The "Early" type is closest but fucks it up by dividing the exhaust vents into four vertical blocks which is, as far as I know, pure fiction. But with a good saw, it may be an easy fix to cut it down to just one divider in the middle.

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>>11538119
meant for >>11538110 but here's the exhaust I'm talking about

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>>11538119
I can barely make it out, but this UD seems to have it.

Maybe it's a Leningrad vs. Harkiv vs. Omsk thing.

>>11538132
Oh yeah seems to be the case

>>11538119
They have these dividers too but you just can't seem them because of the soot and the resolution.

>>11527501
based, i want one
>>11529007
>strips paint with acetone, melts the fucking thing
>wife leaves
>tranny gubbernment closes down the favourite pub

>>11533011
do mutts really?

>>11538356
Revell does not sell their paint stateside.

>>11538410
Huh? They launched it couple years ago. Did they pull out again?

>>11538415
>Did they pull out again
That's what she said.

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>>11532724
finally tried painting something with this concoction. I kinda knew going in it wasn't gonna be good chrome, but what I got instead was nowhere near chrome and basically just another metallic silver.
So instead I broke open one of my chrome paint pens and put a couple drops in my airbrush. This looks significantly better and actually looks like chrome. I ordered one of those molotow refills that comes in a dropper bottle for the future, I have no idea how long the paint in my now broken pen will last before it dries out even though I taped it back together.

Other than the dust I can't for the life of my seem to escape no matter what, this looks great imo. I ruined the chrome parts in the kit trying to strip the factory chrome so I had to order another chrome tree from Round2. Between that and buying the 3D printed engine I'm using for it, this is definitely the most expensive kit I've built so far.

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I was going for a more suble zinc plated yellow on the carb and fuel pump but the brass color was all I had. The carb is going to be almost completely covered by the air cleaner when the chrome dries anyways so I guess it doesn't really matter. I have no idea how you're supposed to deal with print lines on something this small so I just didn't... lol

>>11538657
why not just keep the initial chrome it has

>>11539027
on the pictured part its an aftermarket resin part so it wasn't chrome at all. as for the kit parts like the bumpers and such, its an old AMT kit so theres heaps of flash as well as the leftover nub from cutting it off. Once you get it all sanded down and cleaned, the chrome is ruined. Its easier to just start from scratch imo

>>11539029
being a carfag sounds like suffering. and the kits aren't even of good cars

>>11534796
Have you ever considered that it doesn't have anything to do with the humidity but maybe something is clogged or blocked inside the tubing?

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>>11539117
it is unless you buy exclusively japanese kits. im like a battered housewife still buying american(chinese) made kits like this.

>maybe this one will be ok right

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Found this gem from a review of T-64 track links from 2012.

>>11538351
>acetone
only a retard would use acetone to strip plastic

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>>11539117
I'm not a car person but the one car kit I do want doesn't have the engine and the only kit I can seem to find is way too expensive and looks kinda ass

>>11539299
how are trump tariffs affecting the american kit brands now? last time I heard, sellers were having a hard time importing the usual "made in china" amt, mpc, etc. slop

I have a friend that sends me clips on boomerbook and I have to say, some of the things are absolutely brilliant
I never would have thought of using gauze soaked in paint as camo net

>>11539964
beggars can't be choosers

>>11539964
I'd consider carfagging if the kits were new and this kind of subject. I'm not going to exert myself to recreate a soulless japanese knockoff car

>>11538423
Hm, seems they didn't. Revell painst and supplies are still available in US online shops.

Speaking of carfagging, does anyone have experience with the Heller 1/43 car kits? How shit are they?

>>11540470
I built one when I was new and thought it was fine at the time.

>>11540470
I saw one built up in my local boomer-club but the dude did a lot of work on it like sanding certain parts thinner and all that. It looked pretty good in the end.

>>11540531
>>11540580
Alright, I might get a couple of them, then. I always liked the Renault 4CV, so probably that.

planefags, why aren't there good pilot figures

I hate airbrushing so I think I'll do 1/72 scale and only do priming, basecoating and shading with my airbrush
Everything else will be by acrylic paint by paintbrush

>>11540247
yeah really early cars look cool especially with the engine detail, every car kit I've seen doesn't interest me outside of kitbash fodder for maschinen krieger

>>11540737
To encourage you to learn to sculpt

>>11540737
Building in a flying state is getting rarer and rarer since models are for autistic men and not for kids anymore so why bother making such a complicated mold

>>11541820
maybe it's rarer because gay niggers stopped making pilot figures
>why bother making such a complicated mold
well it would be very reusable if it's to be included in plane kits. tamiya 1:48 kits have decent figures in them
for standalone kits, if it's viable to make butchers, cheese sellers and 'war has no gender' kits, then this easily should be as well

>>11541890
It probably wouldn't be very reuseable without serious engineering. Seats are different, control positions are different, suit and equipment are different not only from plane to plane but country to country and there are 8 gorillion reasons why it's not that simple. Because again, we're dealing with autistic adults that'll be hysterical about a patch location on a suit and not with average builders.

>>11541895
I don't see why any of that would be insurmountable. there are pilot figures made for dioramas, standing up or otherwise fannying about doing anything other than sitting in a plane. I'm sure their clothing and equipment is relatively accurate
>country to country
obviously they shouldn't be totally generic, more like a few variations accurate for an organisation and time period, if we're talking about a standalone box
>we're dealing with autistic adults that'll be hysterical about a patch location on a suit and not with average builders
the gaylords who autismally nitpick everything probably aren't the people who would want figures anyway

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is there a reason the only takom AML-60 available to buy on the Internet is parted out by a retard on ebay or does god just hate me

>>11542509
checked just for fun, lol, lmao. Message that greedy boomer faggot and call him a retard. At least he isnt deluded enough to sell instructions for 10 bucks, but still deserves at least some verbal abuse. And God hates all of us, so dont worry, youre in good company
Probably out of production and you'll just have to wait for someone clearing hteir stash or for it to get another run

>>11542521
>isnt deluded enough to sell instructions
yeah about that [spoiler]https://www.ebay.com/itm/303363173726[/spoiler]

>>11542509
Frenchoid vehicles are weirdly absent from any store
I had to wait 2 years to get an AMX-30B

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>>11541820
>Building in a flying state
3/4 of my aircraft are still built like this, most of them were Revell/Airfix so had the option.
Image is a BV-222 from 2020

>>11542587
At least you don't have to worry about flies I guess....

>>11542509
>>11542526
lmao what the actual fuck? the retard split it up into 4 separate auctions? literally why?

>>11542509
Does Takom just shut down kits and never make them again? Their Mk.11 Chieftain is close to unobtainium too.

>>11539117
this isn't true at all, what cars are you after?

>>11542526
how did I miss this in my drunken stupor. I'm tempted to send a message with a link to the instructions on scalemates

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Great
You can get far better detail using 3D printed parts than you could putting a ton of effort into folding PE, that's fun
I guess the next thing will be 3D printed engine grills god forbid
This hobby is just sad now, there's no skill anymore
In order to survive these days it seems like one must learn 3D design and print their own parts on a resin printer

>>11543239
Oh God I didn't even scroll up enough in the image that I myself posted
It's over

>>11543239
>he thinks modeling "skill" is in assembly
Okay grandpa. Post your model that is just blasted in an uniform coat of a single color, maybe some white drybrushing you saw in a 1970's Tamiya magazine.

cunt

>>11543239
Cope

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Do any of you own this model?
Is it ok?

>>11543395
Also does it work well enough that you'd feel safe airbrushing acrylics in your room?

I just got the Testors Bob Lazar ufo kit, sealed, for 20$ at a yard sale. Should I build it or sell it? Its a transparent model with full interior.

>>11543408
build it, then frisbee the thing into joe rogans fat fuckin head

>>11543413
Rent free, huh?

>>11543408
sell it before all the boomers who care about it drop fuckin dead

>>11543239
PE makes horrible wire meshes because wire is rarely flat. Anyway, both are still inferior to plastic in terms of versatility.

>>11543395
>>11543396
I have one very similar anon. I like it and airbrush acrylics in my room. I didn’t have a window close by so I vent into the bucket with filter and cat litter contraption. Judging by the back filter and what is hitting the inside of the bucket, it’s doing the job.

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>>11543395
>>11543396
>>11543587
This is the model I have. Vivohome on Amazon.

>>11543396
Water based paints definitely but you should probably wear a mask if airbrushing lacquer/enamels (I don't always)

pe is not fun

Just thought I'd check in and state unequivocally that I fucking hate doing canopies

>>11543252
And this is a bad thing why? Because weirdly bleached out paint and random rust is just so much more realistic?

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>>11543920
>And this is a bad thing why? Because weirdly bleached out paint and random rust is just so much more realistic?
> - Bob
>sent from my iPhone via Tapatalk

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Had some hours to spare on a business trip to Zürich and went to the Swiss Air Force Museum (Flieger Flab). Really really really good museum I must say, if you end up in Zürich or live nearby it's worth visiting.

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>>11544168
Obviously the collection is Swiss focused but the ordnance collection especially is just fantastic, there is just about every gun flown on European aircraft pre WWII and a good amount of missiles, ECM/recon equipment and even a full Ju-52 you can enter

>>11544168
Please tell me that you took the pictures of the Schlepp on the left. I need to build one sooner or later.

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>>11544207
Yes I did, it's got quite a cool livery

>>11544213
what the fuck is this shit
who puts a rotor above the cockpit and how does it carry a jeep bomb?

>>11544213
Nice shot. Thanks. I am going to compare some of the pictures to the parts in the Kora kit now... If I get that kit, may God have mercy upon my soul.

>>11544224
It's such a funny looking aircraft you can't help but like it. The bastard son of a Constellation and a Stuka

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>>11544213
>>11544224
Just checked and there is a decent view of the underside here in the background of another pic if it's of any use. I was mostly taking pics of details on planes for references and not so many big wide shots

>>11544227
It really is. Most Swiss built aircraft (that isn't a Pilatus) are odd, but quite endearing, really. I am sure you saw the Aquilon, P-16, C.3603 and C.35, so you know exactly what I mean.
>>11544223
Kek.

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>>11544232
Oh yes they are quite special. You can see the same kind of design trends the Brits were playing with especially. This micro-quad-jet layout is really funny, I thought it was just two top mounted ones when I was getting close

>>11544230
That is fine, my friend. I think that these two pictures should be sufficient to see if the shape is about right.

Kora is 50-50 with accuracy, unfortunately (as they really do a great service for those looking for interesting subjects from 1925 to 1950). I almost bought their Stieglitz, but was put off by how misshapen the cabane struts were.

>>11544235
Lovely. Any C.35 pictures? Excuse me for being a bit demanding, but good pictures of Swiss types are not that easy to find.

I hope to visit this museum one day, along with the Aeronautical Museum in Belgrade (also well worth a visit, by all accounts).

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>>11544241
I had to turn off my phone unfortunately so no (retard moment forgot the powerbank and boarding pass was on it) but there is a pretty good shot of the museum example on its wiki page, I think it would have been about the same I delivered: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EKW_C-35#/media/File:EKW_C-35.jpg

I have been to the one in Belgrade a few years back, I think it has been closed for renovation for quite a while. Also an extremely good collection (and cool building), same most of the outdoors collection isn't really accessible. At least in 2018 the bit that looks like the boneyard on the north side of the museum was fenced away

>>11544252
Thanks again.

A guy that I know went to the museum in Belgrade as part of a stopover on his flight to Moscow, no pictures, sadly (and he did not go to Monino when he was in Moscow either).

>>11544258
Monino was somewhere I really wanted to go but with my NATO passport I guess it'll be quite a few years before that's going to be a reality... Air Museums are a great excuse for travel though, went to PIMA last year and would never have seen so much of Arizona if I didn't want to go there. Beautiful state and PIMA is just a crazy place, only downside is that with most of the collection stored outside nature does take its toll on them

>>11544259
Nice. I do not travel that much. I wanted to go to the Kennedy Space Center on either the 1st, 2nd or 3rd this month as they were doing F-104 flypasts daily at 11:00 those days, but I did not make it. Last museum that I visited (other than local ones) was the Udvar-Hazy Center at Dulles for two days. I also did some spotting at the observation tower there.

Not a museum, but the Mach Loop is worth visiting. I had some pictures of the aircraft in the Loop, but I have lost them. It is a shame, as I caught a QinetiQ Alpha Jet. I am fairly certain that RAF Valley or the Llanbedr Airdrome also have a museum.

You make me want to buy a better camera, as I lost some good shots to poor resolution quite recently (two Gulfstream HALOs and a E-11 BACN).

>>11543395
This question is in every fucking thread. Yes it works to filter out most of the paint dust. You still need to be wearing a mask and air out your room if you don't have a workshop with proper ventilation. No the hose doesn't make a huge difference because the thinner fumes will still go everywhere.

>>11544213
It looks like a messerschmitt that was drawn by a 4 year old and painted to OSHA specifications.

>>11544089
Based boomer dabbing on the weathering scam

>>11544943
It is actually quite funny how it seems every boomer at shows in my area is going 100% panel line free and painting everything as smooth as possible with results looking like cheap toys

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>>11545366
I was at the bote model world championship a while back and it was SHOCKING that boomers would scratchbuild a 1:100 frigate then just blast it in an uniform color without and shading or weathering as if it was a shipyard's factory model. I remember one even had a meticulously scratchbuilt 1:100 helicopter on the deck, that had a clean engine exhaust, like it just rolled off the factory floor and never even started its engines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLNKfIU4W84

>be me
>haven't touched a scale model in years
>get some for birthday last month, why not
>had tried painting some when I was younger, but it was dogshit, wanna make an honest attempt this time
>dig out the 10+ year old tamiya acrylics and brushes from the basement
>trial run is ass, but to be expected
>buy some primer for the second model, paint job actually looking pretty sick as a result
>buy some tamiya X22 gloss to put over
>too poor for airbrush, try putting it on by brushing
>thinner + gloss starts melting the fucking paint job
>pure gloss does pretty much the same thing
>water + gloss finally goes on without ruining everything
>read later you should never thin with water because of fucking course
>do a pin wash with tamiya panel liner and clean up with testor's enamel thinner
>enamel thinner melts the paint down to the primer
>touch up and try a 4th coat of gloss
>find a really soft brush and decide to try thinner + gloss again
>goes on without incident, but once it starts setting the paint underneath fucking melts again
>give up and come here for advice

>>11545622
>as if it was a shipyard's factory model

Just like god intended

>>11545622
Personally I think they look better with a moderate amount of shading but very little weathering
The crews took pride in their ships and would want us to remember them for the state that the crews aimed for

>>11545622
Keked at the ironclad collection

>>11545836
Did you let the layers cure for a whole 5 seconds? Also buy water based enamels if you are just starting out, the boomer mind can't comprehend this, but accessibility and user friendliness are actually things.

>>11545836
Use water-based acrylics
Let your layers dry at least half a day before you start putting on other chemicals
Use brand thinner and not store stuff

>>11546070
The paint easily sat for a week before the gloss arrived, and it was a few days more before I tried the pin wash so I don't think curing time was an issue. Maybe I put the gloss on too thin, but I wasn't expecting the gloss itself to act as a thinner. Would the paint being so old have anything to do with it?

>>11546074
Tamiya paints have alcohol in them that easily reactivate the layers below if you go overboard with a brush.

>>11545836
if you want to brush paint, why are you using tamiya

>>11546105
It's doable but inadvisable for newbs or someone who's been off the wagon for a while

>>11546105
Want to use up all the ones from my childhood before I go spending all the money required to swap em out for a different brand
>>11546084
Well shit, I thought I was being really soft with it, but it picked up the paint just by sitting. Is there any serious reason I shouldn't be thinning gloss with water, cause that's the one that that didn't totally ruin my work. I also read lighter fluid works as a softer enamel thinner so I'll try that next time

>>11546355
Just be aware that acrylics paints (Tamiya included) have a shelf life and start to gunk up and not behave as advertised over time. Don't be surprised if those old pots act like shit

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>>11546373
Well shit, they're really, really old so I guess that's probably it.
What are the good alternatives for brushing? I'd rather not go spending like 50$ just on paint, especially when I don't know how it'll react with the gloss and thinner I already have

>>11546390
rattlecans or a chink special airbrush set with a compressor

>>11545893
Least obvious bait.

>>11545981
>The crews took pride in their ships and would want us to remember them for the state that the crews aimed for
Kek no.

This reminds me of the old-timers who'd rip People's Army T-55, T-72 etc. builds apart saying shit like "the sergeant would have ripped us a new one if we didn't spit-shine our tank every day for 25 hours, sonny", but build three month old Tigers like they've just been dragged out of the bottom of a lake.

>>11546064
All one guy. Like the guys who only build Airfix Spitfires for 60 years, something will just click in a modelers brain and say "I have to have every river monitor ever made".

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this is from the campus friends series 2, I think she turned out pretty decent. might touch up a few things before moving on to the scooter.

>>11546390
One thing you can do is buy one extra Tamiya paint and compare if it's behaving the same as your other ones when you paint with it just to see if they've changed over the years. You don't need to go balls deep right away.

>>11546512
I haven't seen proof but I have heard there was one of those sloppy boomer models whose lifes mission was to model the entirity of the danish air forces jet fighters. Not one of each type which would sort of make sense mind you, every single one specifically. The guy that mentioned him said he never spent more than two days per plane so I assume it's not twitterbro grade but just one of those "there is no passion or craft here just mass production" looking ass builds

>>11546512
>the guys who only build Airfix Spitfires for 60 years
based

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Work decided we need to have a resin printer so of course I'm printing a few parts for some of my projects. It really is shocking how good results you can get with no fiddling at all. I just painted these and apart from the scars from supports I didn't bother removing because they are hidden by the tire anyway you would not be able to tell it is not simply any other plastic part

>>11547241
printers are getting better, and if you ever have issues with layer lines just brush some uv cure resin on to the part, cure, and sand.

>>11545366
>>11545622
>there's only one way of finishing your model
>no you can't do something else
>you HAVE to use these techniques
Yeah, it looks like a shipyards factory model because that makes sense. When do you see a ship in real life on a brass stand? You don't, correct. So, when you want a ship with realistic weathering, it would be advisable to do that in a diorama, with a waterline model. When you build it standing on a display stand it would look extremely weird to show weathering. What is that supposed to convey? That someone took the ship out of the water and put it on a stand? Of course one can do that. But I don't think it adds anything to the model. It could be in a drydock maybe. But then you can do a drydock diorama.

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>>11547251
That's not what anyone is saying. I just don't want to "respect the craft" of the local boomers that thought I shouldn't be allowed to exhibit because I model fictional subjects and not strictly precise copies of some random hull number noone gives a shit about if they didn't serve on it, when said boomers are low skill hacks that fill and sand everything to look worse than ebay die casts. These fags are so up their own ass with models that they are indeed the ones that think noone should be doing anything else than precisely what they are doing.

There are plenty of strictly-no-weathering guys that make absolutely fantastic builds, Paul Budzik for instance is the uncrowned king of this I would argue at least and he's very good at explaining exactly why he does what he does. Pic related

>>11546355
>I shouldn't be thinning gloss with water
Literally the least of your worries in terms of fucking up previous layers.

>I also read lighter fluid works as a softer enamel thinner
Or maybe stop fucking around and buy the actual product that you are meant to be fucking using. Jfc, I swear half of this general is people trying to cheap out at every step, thinning their "testors premium" with gasoline and whale cum and then being surprised when shit turns out like shit.

>>11547263
If you see an unironical testors user just keep scrolling they're beyond helping. But yeah I agree here's my model kit budget

-$500 for 10 kits for my stash that i will never build
-$30 for paints of different brands none of which are good
-$2 for thinners, glue, tools, tape and cigarettes

please help me budget my hobby is dying

>>11547253
>local boomers that thought I shouldn't be allowed to exhibit because I model fictional subjects
Oh, ok it is about personal grievances here. I can't debate that. Don't know what the issue is.

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>>11547288
Just to clarify, I'm not a retarded autist turning up with anime figures to the military vehicle club. It's a general model kit club and I turn up with eg pic related

>>11547251
Nice little speech, Bob, but counterpoint: it looks like fucking shit. It looks low effort. It looks like a toy. It looks like who made it can't paint.

>be me
>only interested in maschinen krieger or unusual subjects
>modeling clubs consist of military and
car only boomers, weebs that only care about gundam and 90% don't paint them, or table top dudes that talk about data sheets
I don't mind other subjects like military, cars, gundam, or warhammer but all of these guys are so hyper fixated on a single subject and don't want to branch outside of their comfort zone.

>>11539959
Half of the world population is below average IQ desu

>>11547326
>sperg with le ADHD and zero discipline can not comprehend the enigmatic mind of spergs who hyperfixate

>>11547338
? I'm not entirely sure what you mean. I dabble in multiple subjects but I have the main one that I really enjoy. every club I've tried is just super focused on one subject, even if it's "all inclusive". I'm really confused about what you mean when you say
>sperg with le ADHD and zero discipline

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Okay, I don't know what else to do with this. The idea is that it's a papershit that actually got built from a hull that was pulled from the front and fitted with a pre-production turret then sat forgotten for two-three years in some factory/proving ground in Germany. So it should have dust, mud, heavy wear and tear or battle damage. Just rusted track links from barely ever running.

But right now it's just too sterile. Maybe I should do enamel rain marks (as in surface dust that's vertically streaked from rain)?

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Other angles. Also should I just get a separate digital camera? I can't use phone cameras for shit. I tried to go outside to have proper light, but it still looks kinda ass.

>>11547342
>>11547344
Could do a little crew painted markings on it, something that is done crudely with a paintbrush maybe?

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This is Takom's Tiger I/Porscheturm papershit cashgrab kit btw. First serious krautshit I've ever built (I've built the Tamiya Pz.II before). I don't know how it compares to the dozens of other 1:35 Tiger kits out there, but it was a pretty nice kit to build.

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>>11547345
I tried imitating white chalk on the turret, but my handwriting is terrible.

>>11547342
>proving ground
if it was sitting outside you could definitely add rain marks, some rust, or even pigeon shit lol. I'm not sure about the factory setting. I imagine you could reduce the contrast and make it look dusty with a filter or something.

>>11547348
That particular example you can actually get as a decal set so maybe that could work if you're willing to spend the money https://www.ebay.com/itm/154082824488

I'm thinking about getting trumpeter's mentally challenger 2 in 48th scale to make it into a ukraine version, but there is only one image with a cope cage that I could find
have there been more?

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>>11547369
Nah, they're messages for a vehicle that was headed to the front line. Mine is a prototype that was built then quickly abandoned. In real life it never even left the drawing board.

>>11547263
Reading comprehension really is at an all time low huh. I'm asking WHY I shouldn't thin with water, I didn't say I wouldn't do it.
If you have an enamel thinner that works then I'll buy it holy fuck, all I'm saying is the testors' is too strong (although maybe I just brushed too hard idk) and that lighter fluid is a more forgiving alternative that I wouldn't have to go out and buy or wait on cause I already have some of it in my fucking house

>>11547439
Tamiya isn't water based, you are the one with reading comprehension issues. As the post you're replying to is saying, they have alcohol in them. Buy the correct thinner (Tamiya X-20A).

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>>11547442
I'm not thinning everything with water, I have the proper thinner and I've been thinning the paints with them. It's only when I mixed it in with the gloss that shit started to melt

>>11547444
You're using too much thinner or not waiting long enough for everything to cure. That's all. If you have further issues, use a different sort of paint for clear coating (normal acrylic or enamel or rattle cans, whatever) so you don't have issues with same-same paint reacting with itself

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Anyway this is the model I've had all the gloss trouble with. Despite everything I think it ended up good and I finally want to move on to weathering, any thoughts before then?

>>11547291
Yeah, ok, but then these people are just weird. If they won't allow you because you put different decals on. But then again I noticed in my local boomer club that it is a lot more about socializing, drama, political fights and talking about your last motorcycle tour or vacation than it is about modelling. On the other hand, there was one guy who tried to gatekeep and badmouth other people's builds and he got kicked out because of that. So my boomers are more of the tolerant persuasion.

>>11547293
And who are you, exactly? An unimportant sperging autist.

>>11547456
>heller
my condolences

>>11547482
Yeah lol I found out pretty quick why it was only 30$. The kit tries really had to give you movable wheels and hatches and all that, but it's so fragile I ended up gluing most of it down anyway. I don't mind the challenge of a bunch of shitty kits though, at least while I'm still trying to learn painting and such

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>>11547479
>And who are you, exactly? An unimportant sperging autist.
You tell em, Bob! These young whippersnappers think they've earned nitpicking at every little detail, technique and rivet, like we did!

I'll spend four years scratchbuilding a 1:100 FREMM frigate only to paint it with a paint-roller on the last day, and if these damn soft-handed liberals get triggered by that, well they can just choke on their avocado toast, Bob! I get enough nagging from the ol' ball and chain already.

- Bill
- River Flotilla 1985-85 (medically discharged due to flatfoot, farsightedness and not being able to swim)

Current projects:
- 1:100 HMS Victory
- 1:200 Bismarck
- 1:200 Tirpitz
- 1:200 Yamato
- 1:200 Musashi
- 1:100 Santa Maria

- No, I will NOT use anything else than Testors and Revell, you can stick it with these new foreign Japanese acrylic paints!

Sent from my iPhone via Tapatalk

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why is everything I want out of production or 500+ usd

>>11547517
Because there's like two people in the world who both build scale models and know Dominion Tank Police, and I'm not buying.

>>11547342
Nice job collecting real dust on it in order to boost the weathering.

>>11547590
I don't know why nylon fibres are constantly everywhere, but yeah, this has been sitting for like three weeks now.

>>11547517
mama used to tell me you can always scratchbuild and kitbash

>>11547326
bitch please, my old model club was divided into groups based on subject, I don't know for what reason but I guess it improved social cohesion.

>>11527247
1/16 is an industry plant, I will not elaborate

>>11547241
neat
now post the rest of the car

>>11547511
>he paints a 1/100 scratchbuilt ship model like Mig Jiminez a 1/35 tank
I can't get over that. Don't forget sponge chipping and flat coat.

>>11527247
there is no kit available for a car I want to make a scale model kit of
what techniques would be best for making the body panels? if it were a giugiaro box I'd consider papercraft; sadly it's a late 90s soapbar.
let's assume I can grab the 3d model off a videogame or create it in 3d software

>>11548191
*a scale model of

>>11548191
>let's assume I can grab the 3d model off a videogame or create it in 3d software
This is probably your best bet, but good luck have fun, because video game models are absolute horrid shit most of the time. I tried doing this myself and can confirm that best case you will spend a few days stitching up the mesh so it can actually print (it will be watertight) and worst case you will waste a week before making one out of clay or something instead.

>>11548195
forgot to mention I would prefer to avoid directly using 3d printed parts

>>11548174
Your fake smugness won't mask how insanely buttmad you got for being called out for painting your shit like toys.

museum models usually aren't shaded or weathered, in my experience

>>11548224
I went to the largest aviation museum in Bulgaria and I could have put their model collection to shame as a 12 year old
I'm no planefag, but man, really?
>canopies painted black
>visible brush strokes
>uneven finish
>no clear coat
>decals adding to the topology

I have pestered a planefag friend to donate some relevant models to replace them as he constantly complains about lack of space

>leave thread for three days
>it's a shit show

>>11542771
anon I... heaps of these fuckwits are doing it, they are selling complete kits parted out like greedy merchants

>>11548191
what car?

>>11547511
You tell em Bill

Personally I use 3 good thick coats of the 2X Paint and Primer from the Home Depot and 5 passes with the Krylon gloss varnish.

I'll be damned if some young buck in his 40s tells me what to do!

>>11548477
YOU HAVE TO USE FUTURE FLOOR POLISH

>>11548484
>"YOU HAVE TO USE FUTURE FLOOR POLISH" -Bill
>"But Bill, I live in Poland." -Totenkopfverbande1488SiegHeil
>"I WON'T CONVERT IT INTO METRIC FOR YOU!" -Bill
>"Okay. but what is Future made of exactly? What are its components? What's it based on? Sorry for my poor English." -WolfWarriorPRC
>"I DON'T KNOW, ASK YOU LOCAL WALMART! HAVE A LITTLE INITIATIVE!" -Bill

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Weather's going to shit and temps are dropping so I'm starting on a Hobby Boss Hornet C. Gonna be another Ace Combat plane this one, Grun Team so a nice green forest camo. Built one of those before in 1/72 scale with a shit ass Italeri kit so I hope this will be more fun

>>11548100
Nah gonna be a long time. Don't have the correct paint, need to 3D model a boatload of parts to make it accurate to the subject and all that jazz. Don't think it'll be done until Christmas.

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>>11548591
Here's said old ass Italeri kit build from about 7 years ago when I sucked at airbrush and was a lot sloppier with assembly. God that kit sucked, is there any good Hornet A/B/C in 1/72? the HB kit is 1/48

Freshly Baked!
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