Previous Thread: >>11521972G.I. Joe ClassifiedSnow C.A.T. Haslab was fully funded and reached all stretch goalsReleased: >Haslab Cobra Rattler w/ Wild Weasel, Baroness, & Rattler Gunner>Cobra Commander with Combat Armor, Trench Viper & Cobra Modular Fortification (Hasbro Pulse), Snake Eyes v4, Crystal Ball (Wal-Mart), Snake Eyes & Polar Bear, Law & Order, Breaker (Target), C.L.A.W. & Pilot (Pulse), S.N.A.K.E. Battle Armor (Pulse), Search & Rescue Firefighter>Retros: Flint, Cover Girl, Televiper>2-packs: Night Force Beach Head & Quick Kick (Wal-Mart)Preorders: >Desert Scorpion & SKRP10N, Mainframe, Grim Viper, Sci-Fi, Wet-Suit, Budo, Major Bludd, Monkeywrench >Steel Corps Sentry & Defense Post (Pulse), Cold Slither Box Set (Pulse), General Hawk & MMS, Crankcase with A.W.E. Striker>Retros: Greenshirt, BAT >2-packs: GI Joe Diver & Cobra Diver (Target), Slice & Dice (Pulse), Sgt Slaughter & MercerRevealed:>Ghost Viper & Dire Wolf (Wal-Mart), Pythona (Con/Pulse), Legacy Police ESU>2-packs: Steeler & Short-Fuze (Target)Leaks/Rumors/Unseen: >Lifeline, Hit & Run, Big Lob, Iceberg, Night-Viper, Firefly (deluxe), Annihilator, Fast Draw, Cyber Viper, Golobulous, I.G. Baroness, I.G. Voltar, Hydro-Viper, Airtight, Royal Guard (cc), Sgt. Flash, Psyche-Out, Muskrat, Retro Zarana, Destro with Despoiler, Unknown new female with Polar Battle Bear, Dusty v2 with Sandstorm>2-packs: Night Creeper Leader & unknown, Blackout & Bombstrike, Grand Slam & Laser-Viper, Cesspool & unknown------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------>G.I. Joe A Real American Hero:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLM0FaPp2oenPi6zQOTBUCRoYnjhp0eEKQ>G.I. Joe Renegades:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9iSDGvA4UNCGK-QiRUoxNHPun1PAIXON>G.I. Joe Spy Troops (PAL version, ripped and edited by a very kind Aussie Anon/Spy Troops anon):https://mega.nz/folder/UbgRhCQA#9MNOu25I6Rqv0BlaSUj8XA
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>>11538527>I.G. Baroness, I.G. VoltarWhat's IG?
>>11538527The unknown new female with Polar Battle Bear intrigues me. Any more info?
>>11538536I’m assuming Iron Grenadiers
>>11538529>Valaverse:>Action Force 1944 WWII line announcedAh something potentially good in the horizon. Technically their figures seem nice, I just don't care for their scrimba bimbla OC's. But there's always room for generic army figures.
>>11538527>>11521836theres already a thread
>>11538582That was a troll thread, and it is one day away from sage, so no.
Oh yeah, Short-Fuze and Steeler render.
>>11538589>That was a troll thread,and including garbageverse isn't?
>>11538589From the response looks like that was their thread and they're mad we're not using it
>>11538540Yeah. Who is the cool monster guy? My mole rat needs a buddy.
>>11538595same gun?
>>11538709No
>>11538529Why the variant in the Infantry Commando?
>>11538759Bobby likes chase figures. *shrug*
https://x.com/TheFullForce/status/1959439538004119848I wonder what the delay was
>>11538527They should do a non wal-mart release of this just with different animals, like a green fear gas Alligator
>>11538825I wish they made these things easier to get. They're so customizable that I can see people building huge structures, towers, walls, forts, etc. by having dozens of these.Hasbro should really do a true made-to-order pulse exclusive of these, but just allow you to buy the wall parts. This would probably be the best way to much a huge base for Classified. Just let your customers choose how big they want to make by letting them pick the individual parts themselves. Just sell the wall and floor plates for like $5-$10 each. You'd still probably get people ordering dozens, if not hundreds of them.
>>11538873Yeah it's strange isn't it. They should do that
You told me he was canceled and yet, here he is
>>11538937uh? Dial-Tone has been a chick since 2009.
You guys are so lucky. There isn't a single Joe classified where I live.
>>11539004I just buy online honey
>>11538948Not really. Hasbto made girl dialto e OG Dialtone's sister and then wholesale memory holed her after seeing fan response to Dial Tone in the infamously sold out Mission Brazil 2 convention release
>>11539011That's fine and all, especially if you don't have a local farm shop, but how does that help him with his Classified predicament?
>>11538540What could they do to make an Iron Grenadiers version? Add some gold paint? They just need to make the Rattler version in different colors with different accessories, and they'll sell the shit out of it fast. >>11538527>Retro ZaranaThe one they already did was as retro as possible already, and was a spot-on modern interpretation of the original. The only thing they could do to make it full-retro is color-changing skin in the sunlight.
>>11538595GI Joe has a LOT of lefties doesn't it?
>>11538527>Destro with DespoilerSo, does that make the D.E.M.O.N. a likely candidate for the next Haslab?
Hmmm
>>11538948>>11539030Well most likely get Jill Dialtone later on in Classified line, since we already got Jack Dialtone.Same with Carla Doc since we got Carl Doc.
>>11539569They definitely have a Sigma Six vibe to them.
Oh, its a ghost viper. Thanks google.
>>11538527Do the green parts glow in the dark?
>>11539569Small Soldiers
>>11538527>Revealed:>>Ghost Viper & Dire Wolf (Wal-Mart)Is this going to be difficult to find? Roughly how soon will it release?
What's the best 1/12 gore accesory pack? 35$ is a tough sell when Valaverse weapon packs are 20$
>>11539907>Is this going to be difficult to find?Probably. It is a Walmart exclusive, and they're among some of the worst, most annoying figures to get.>Roughly how soon will it release?Its just a render right now. Could be months before a physical sample/product images and it goes up for PO. Then it'll probably be several months before it comes out. Likely early next year, late winter/early spring.
Is mr. biglys collectibles safe to order from?
>>11540027Until they set up a big aisle displayer
>>11539566Personally I'd like a Water Moccasin. They wouldn't do the WHALE because like the Skystriker they'd complain that it's too large.
>>11540014Notta makes one, and Can o Beams make some, but neither is as good a value as that.
>>11539569 Small Soldiers vibe. Where the monsters at?
>>11539566Haslabs are focusing on vintage joe vehicles first. once they've run out of stuff that can be made in the haslab price range, they'll move on to 90's stuff.
>>11540027Good information.
>>11539569Honestly pretty cool. They definitely have a Small Soldiers feel to them. Might grab these for my nephew
Soon
>>11539216Add fish
I would double dip if the kangaroo was fully articulated
God I'm excited for more IG
>>11538527I'm all for more Iron Grenadiers, but I'll need a bigger shelf soonThis isn't that interesting to anyone but me, but I also decided this will be the guy in charge of cleaning Destros face, unless that's already someone in canon I don't remember the name of
>>11540994Loved this figure as a kid. I didn't even remember that he was an IG character.
>>11541479IIRC they did a Cobra version of TARGAT for the Star Brigade line, after Hasbro put Destro back with Cobra instead of having his own faction. TARGATs are awesome, they're jet pack troopers dropped from orbit to anywhere on the planet Destro needs them.
>>11540014Bobby says he's raising his prices to the low, low price of almost $30, before tax and shipping.
>>11541862I don't like Vala but he's actually lowering prices from 29.99 to 27.99, so fuck off.
>>11541862>>11541879>lowering prices againSo how overpriced was his shit to begin with?
>>11541882I believe it's honestly a matter of already recouped costs and economies of scale.Other lines like Mythic Legions have eventually managed to increase the number of accessories per figure while keeping the same cost (roughly and inflation-aware speaking). Newer ML releases are a steal compared to other ones.He's doing it the other way. He's keeping figures mostly the same, but now he can make them cheaper.
>>11541931>Newer ML releases are a steal compared to other ones lol
>>11541951If you want to be negative, that's fine. Older ML releases were a scam compared to newer ones. Does that sound better to you? At the end of the day it's the same.
>>11538527I wonder will that really be a few female with the Polar Battle Bear or an arctic Scarlett figure?Now that we have an arctic theme going on with the HasLab.
>>11541862its too bad he can't afford to hire people who can actually make cool designs
>>11541882do people not understand what economies of scale are?
>hiya Croc Master is finally shippingnoice
>>11542444You have my permission to terminate with extreme prejudice...
>>11542444 G.I.Joe: Assault on Toy Isle.
>>11542201Are these hiya joes good quality? I have a few Aliens and they are floppy also one Robocop and I regret purchasing him, the head is very bad. The hands look tiny too.The Predators are really cool though, I got 4: jungle pred ver 1.0 and ultimate and City Hunter ver 1.0 and ultimate. I can't remember which one but one of them had a stuck forearm and couldn't swivel.
Got an email from Pulse that the Slice and Dice two pack will be shipping soon.
>>11541931>>11542198nah he's lowering prices because no one wants to pay those insane prices and he can afford to because he's been gouging
>>11542473I from their Joe line I only have Baroness so far, but my she, Hiya Negan, and Kong are great figures. Obviously Kong is a lot larger so he isnt really relevant to the question of joints, but Negan and Baroness have really good joint tolerances and a sold range of motion. Negan has better elbow articulation than Baroness, but I dont know if that is because he was made after her or if it's because her arms are so thin they had to use the older style of joint. The lack of thigh swivel is limiting to some degree, but they still feel pretty good to pose, definitely better than Joytoy's Shredder or any of their 40k stuff
>>11542575And here is a pose comparison between Baroness and one of my Acid Rain World figures. She doesnt have as good range, but she's also not $60 like the ARW figure so I'm fine with it. I will say, it is annoying that neither of Baroness' hair styles improve her ability to articulate her neck. It would have been nice to have a hair up or flowing in the wind hair sculpt so that her hair wouldnt get in the way of posing
>>11538937>>11538948Dial Tone is also Hindu in the movie
>>11538595I feel like Steeler's head is wrong. It's a good mold but since when did he had a part in his hair and looked like he had stubble? I'd take the glasses off Short Fuze, switch the heads and paint Steeler's hair brown again. That Steeler head looks more like Grunt or Flash to me
>>11542654what movie?
Whew lads almost fell for it.
>>11542656Steeler is supposed to be attractive enough to seduce the Baroness in a parallel universe, so it fits with the narrative. Now all you need is the Baroness wearing nothing but a robe, and a cartoon-blonde head with some blue shit around the eyes for Steeler. And a big tank to go with Steeler since driving one is his one and only job in GI Joe.
fall geek out listing?
>>11542873>Now all you need is the Baroness wearing nothing but a robeMake her wear the flame bikini under a softgoods robe.
>>11542991That would work. That would get her outfits from two different episodes within one figure.
>>11542790>includes tariff surcharge
>>11543014People do that to short-change Ebay of their cut, which is based on the selling price. They sell something for below the actual general value then make their money on a bullshit high shipping charge while Ebay makes less than it could have at an honest price. Sellers have been doing that for around 15 years now.
>>11542989>make a figure that Swedish death-metal fags would want to buyAll it's missing is an ESP guitar. >>11542198Most people aren't educated on such things. Not that it matters in this undistry. Hasbro and Mattel out-producing everyone sure as shit hasn't lowered any prices.
>>11542873>And a big tank to go with SteelerI plan on modding that McFarlane Camo tumbler to be more "tank-ish". Gonna try and slap one of them Grid Iron Vamp turret-hatches on it and then figure out a way to rearrange the cockpit to fit three Joes. Right now Cover Girl and Steeler are planned to be the crew, so just gotta figure out a third......and I also have to figure out a way to mod it's insides, but I'm trying to focus on one problem at a time for now.
>>115431661/12 scale tanks are out there.
>>11543173I know, but none of them were $30 bucks and most of those are RC sets that need modding regardless. The only good out the box tank is the Ramen one, but I can't really drop the spare $200+ shipping for it now, and honestly I'm kind of hoping they come out with some different repaints of it. Ideally I'd love a green one with the dual laser turret, it would be a nice throwback to the 50th Green Hisstank and have a nice blend of real world build but scifi details that make for the best Joe vehicles. Those RC Tread Rippers are cool too, but I always felt that looked more like a Cobra vehicle. Though this whole issue would be solved if Hasbro just put out a Classified Armadillo.
>>11543173The Ramen Toys tanks is still up for preorder on their site too. $200.https://youtu.be/qqLFIEuN7iE
>>11543173what a hot damn minute, you're telling me the GI Joe Retaliation HISS Tank was based on a real tank design? Lol
>>11542873Steeler was my first Joe and the main character of my universe. Basically Riggs, Rambo and Mahoney from Police Academy in one. I still associate him with a more clean cut, combed back hair look I suppose. It's still cool and I don't collect Classified, but I'm getting this two pack for Steeler.
>>11543300Kind of, yeah. The Army was evaluating it for years. I think the Army finally pulled the plug back in May, actually. Howe & Howe Tech even had a Discovery tv show years ago documenting trying to get Big Army to bite on the Ripsaw.
>>11542656Dunno about the hair but in the comics the stubble was his defining feature.
>>11542790I've given up bothering, I've accepted it's over. I'll just wallow until one day someone does a similar figure like her.
>>11540994Is that guy black or is it just like sunglasses shading the toy didn't have
>>11543340Stay persistent. A few opened and even loose ones will come up at lower prices than the $150 average for sealed ones. Plus since she's just the V.1 blue suit underneath, she'll get reissued in a lighter shade of blue and no doubt with different accessories. We'll probably get that in a year once Hasbro has cleared out the Rattler orders and are looking for new store retail inventory that's easy to sell.
>>11543340I ordered SHF Ultraman Titas from a company that went bankrupt and stole all my money. In 2020. The figure hasn't dipped under $200 in all that time, only recently it's been like $125 because APPARENTLY they're gonna re-release it soon.You just have to wait. You'll always get it if you wait.
>>11540074Imma order from them idgaf
>>11542873Have the cartoon creators said why they had to have Steeler, Clutch and Grunt stay behind and retire their toys?Why those 3?Why not Zap? Short-Fuze? Etc?
>>11543353Tinted glass. I kinda hope they pattern it off the card art should they do him in Classified.
>>11543322him, clutch and breaker were lazy shavers they didnt care about clean cut soldier looks
>>11542873Destro got cucked, ngl
How many more non-army builder Cobra individuals from the original 1982-94 are their left?Cesspool?Zanzibar?Thrasher?Golobulous?Decimator?Interrogator?Voltar?Gristle?Headman?Night Creeper Leader?Overkill?Overlord?Sky Creeper?Vapor?
>>11543457Who has the room to army build all that?
>>11543457Those first four plus Voltar, will definitely eventually be put into Classfied.Night Creeper Leader as a new head on Night Creeper figure, is easy for Hasbro to do as well.Not sure about the rest.
>>11543484And overkill
Anyone think next year’s HasLab will be the Thunder Machine with Thrasher?Maybe tiers with newer Dreadnoks like Heartwrencher, Burnout or Rugrat.
>>11543457I need Interrogator as a Classified figure, dude just has the most kick ass design, though they could probably get away with just reusing most of a Crimson Guard remold/retool with a new head. Also, while I know he's not an OG ARAH and was literally a movie line only nobody repaint, I would LOVE to see a Classified Night Adder at some point. Again, mostly a repaint, but Hasbro said they wanted more Deluxe figures with pets and he comes with that awesome dog. But yea, Cobra needs way more unique characters in their ranks.
>>11543523As much as I would hate to see it happen....that's totally how it's gonna happen. If they could justify the Snowcat as a Haslab, the Thunder Machine is all but doomed to be crowdfunded.
>>11543543So besides hillbilly swamp Baroness what do you think the other stretch goals would be
>>11543551Hillbilly Duke with moonshine
>>11543551>>11543567 Hillbilly Duke is "married" to the Hillbilly Baroness and she is also his "sister -cousin"
>>11543736 Damn. now I'm gonna go watch Hee Haw
>>11542873Cartoon steeler is ugly as fuck and has the wrong hair color. Toy and toy accurate comic Steeler is a very sexy manly man tank driver, not the whiney sissy faggot cartoon version
>>11543816I feel like they always missed with Steeler in the comics and cartoons. His figure was maybe the most ornate and fancy looking. He came with the best vehicle and the largest one. If you got the Mobat you got the top tier toy. In his filecard they mention how he comes from a proud working class family, is strong and tough as nails, and doesn't work well with authority. Larry Hama even had Steeler as a main character in his Son of Nick Fury comic that got switched into GI Joe. In the end, Steeler was an afterthought, never even getting another figure release in the original line. No repaints, no new vehicle, and no new mold. Steeler got shafted big time.
>>11543885It seems early on they wanted characters like Duke and Steeler to be the central guys. Which probably seemed logical for an army comic. Then it turned out kids like the silent masked mystery man more.At the end it was just SNAKE-EYES THE COMIC (feat. G.I.Joe)
>>11543379Probably because they were disposable and not mainline characters, nor were their 1982-1983 figures even in production at that point in 1985. Well really every Joe in the 1982 line was eligible for "cartoon retirement" except Scarlett, Hawk, and Snake Eyes because they were allc rowded out by the large cast of 1984 - 1985 characters. My guess is Steeler was an easy pick because his MOBAT got kicked aside by Hasbro to sell the Mauler. The other two were probably arbitrary. >>11543365She'll get reissued at a lower price and in a brighter shade of blue. The first Classified Baroness mold got used 3 times (carded figure, the one with the motorcycle, and the Crimson version). They won't waste this one away on a single-use figure most weren't able to get. The issue is will you like the bright blue color?>You just have to wait.I disagree. This version will be one of those that will only go up once it goes out of production. Right now is the cheapest it'll probably ever be. Like I already posted, there'll be a few opened and loose ones that'll sell for less than the $150 average for one MISB, and that's where you can save a couple of bucks. Either that, or wait for the bright-blue repaint. Yeah it sucks. I just got through paying a guy nearly half of what he paid for three figures and the Rattler just to get one figure, and I feel guilty and like shit for doing it. But I've sat there wanting for prices to come down before only to get burned by them going up instead.
>>11543543I still think the Thunder Machine is viable after the Soundwave one sold decently enough. Personally I'd like to see a Cobra Water Moccasin with Joes disguised as Cobra troopers. >>11543736That would be Hillbilly Flint with Baroness, who already has her country-girl outfit picked out.
>>11543457I’m sure they’ll use more individual Cobra from 1998-2018 for Clasified.Just look at Vypra or Shadow Tracker.
>>11543936>The issue is will you like the bright blue color?Of course. Baroness is loyal to her Commander. She should wear his color. The wait for simply the announcement is killing me.
>>11544303It'll be plain like the Super7 version is, so I hope it comes with lots of accessories. They sure as shit won't include the Rattler flight gear with the repaint. It would be nice if it had a red Cobra emblem somewhere on her even if it's "not canon."
>>11543536Big fan of both of those figures/characters. Always liked the Cobra prison-state angle with Springfield, and they both fit perfectly with a squad of Shock(swat) Vipers or your standard blue Cobras and Vipers
>>11544303Baroness is a BLACKED woman, she left CC for King Destro in the end
>>11544499Imagine letting your fetish warp your very perception of reality.
>>11544400I agree that Night Adder and Interrogator would do good in Classified. I know that lady in the Hasbro con promotions pushed for more figures with pets.
>>11544548Who's that face based on, the VA?
>>11543457>>Cesspool>>Zanzibar>>Thrasher>>GolobulousEventually they’ll come over the next 2 years.>>DecimatorNope>>InterrogatorProbably soon but not with copter>>VoltarSoon. Need to complete the IG>>Gristle>>HeadmanNope>>Night Creeper LeaderStore exclusive >>OverkillYeah soon>>overlordPossibly with a reimagining like they did Crystal Ball>>Sky Creeper >>VaporNope. No hang gliders and not that vehicle
>>11544548Cartoon Destro is a negroid
>>11544710You're just an idiot then.
>>11544773You are the one cucked by a black man in a cartoon and denying it
>>11543401>>11544499>>11544710>>11544938This is /toy/ not /co/. Whatever version of canon you're alluding to does not matter here. Now post your toys or git out.
>>11544949 Tell Ssssssssanta what you want little girl.
>>11543353It's a trooper type, not an individual, so some of them could be.
>>11544710No he isn't. He's the descendant of a Scottish clan and related to Lady Jaye, and that gets brought up in "Skeletons in the closet."
Classified Cobra Mortal when?
>>11544710What is wrong with you?
>>11543936Her boobs are noticably smaller than they should be. I guess that short well-rounded brand manager won't let the figure be too perfect. >>11544608I'd like to see a Data Viper and Jungle Viper. They have a Metal Gear Solid feel to them, and would be bad-ass in a Classified format.
>>11542654>Dial Tone is also Hindu in the movieTrying to figure out if you mean they cast a Indian actor, or Jack/Jill is a white convert to Hinduism.
Speaking of which. Do you think we’ll ever get female DialTone Jill and female Doc Carla in Classified?
>>11545140God I hope not. I hate gender-flipping. If they really like those characters then they should re-name them as original disctinct ones instead of flipped ones. The original Doc and Dial-Tone are too awesome for erasure and replacement like that.
>>11545140I would think female Doc is a guarantee at some point. Hasbro is still big in their diversity push and there's no way they'd pass on a black woman Joe.
>>11545164It probably is. We've already gotten Helix, and I think that as they run out of good ideas from the original line, they'll tap the lines from the 2000s more. At least I hope so. The best modern vehicle (in my opinion) is the Night Attack Chopper, which would be perfect as a Haslab. Plus the Data Viper and Jungle Viper I already mentioned. I just hope that they don't shit on the original Doc, and just make Lady-Doc as a separate character.
>>11545177forgot to add pic
>>11545074>Her boobs are noticably smaller than they should beIt's Hasbro. They have never truly tried to adapt a design that matches the sexual energy of the comic or cartoon it's based on. Be thankful she has boobs and booty at all.>CAPTCHA: 0RGSMKek
>>11545178For me, it's the Night Ops Humvee.By the very end of the retail line, Hasbro released the only ultra realistic vehicle in joe history: a Humvee. It came in both desert and woodland camo.Then when the retail line died, there was an online only run of waves called Direct to Consumer or DTC, one of the vehicles offered in that line was a retooled Humvee mold called the Night ops Humvee or Night Attack Humvee; it was simply fantastic, looked realistic but with special forces specs like a passenger MG or grenade launcher mount, open topped, all black etc..For me the best joe land vehicle from the line.
>>11545259They did a release a relatively similar one in 1990. They called it the "Hammer" to dance around copyrights with AM General's HUMMER. And yeah I think it would make an awesome Haslab. >>11545257Aesthetics sell, and authenticity to the original characters also sells. I'm glad that they're getting the "fuck-ugly comic book faces" (looking at Falcon right now) out of the head sculpts and making much nicer ones now, but there's still a few details left like proper cleavage size of characters.
>>11545178I remember that one. Big ol' hunk of plastic, and definitely a highlight of the era. >>11545259This one was good, too, though there was some competition to be had with true 1:18 HMMWVs.
>>11545150But they’re not genderbent.Dialtone II is Jack’s sister Jill.Doc II is Carla, niece of the original Doc.The fandom loves calling them “Hotline” and “MD” though.
Do you think we’ll get new army servicing different Cobra members?Like how the Ghost-Vipers backstory is they are under Crystal Ball’s command.
>>11542654Dialtone was never respected in GI Joe
>>11545277>like proper cleavage size of charactersAnon... The last twenty YEARS this has been a problem from Hasbro. Not one employee at Hasbro would ever push for sex appeal of sci-fi military themed articulated figures as being relevant in this era. It's not happening.
>>11545164 *Shooter*
>>11545341True, but as we've seen in Tomb Raider, fans will only take so much of this shit before they stop spending. So Hasbro needs to choose between what their social-activist workers want, and what the paying customers want.
>>11545373Hasbro has no new cartoons, movies, nor games in the pipeline to keep GI Joe culturally relevant. They're already at the level of Tomb Raider and no one at the company has the balls to single out "sex appeal" as a solution. No, Hasbro won't appeal to "social-activist" bullshit but they still fear it.
>>11545484They could have/should have made a Metal Gear Solid/Splinter Cell/Syphon Filter story-driven paramilitary game years ago when it was cheaper and easier. Now it would cost them a decade and around $200 million to make one now.
>>11545484>>11545495They're making a supposedly "AAA" game about Snake-Eyes. No details about what the gameplay will be like but I have a hard time imagining it as anything other than a stealth focused military espionage action game.
>>11545281Hasbro will get to them eventually. Especially since they’ve already done all the main females.
>>11545502Snake Eyes strikes me as Cyber ninja from Metal Gear: the greatest warrior of a secret organization that got fucked up and has serious PTSD issues.I wouldn't mind seeing a mini-series about SE just losing his shit on Cobra after seeing Scarlett getting killed or sum shit. And then the joes must team with cobra to stop him because he's going crazy and nobody knows where it will end. They kill him at the end and hopefully that puts a stop on his figure being spammed for a while.
>>11544608Wow! Thrasher and Golobulous are the only individuals from Cobra from the original cartoon left.Who are the last Cobra army builders from 1982-198, not counting drivers or pilots?
>>11545502Or a ninja soap opera story.
>>11545525They can always remake the same characters multiple ways, which they're doing now. Judging by cold slither's success, it makes more $$$ sense to capitalize on established popular characters than it does to gamble on less popular or outright vague characters. So as long as there's a ton of ways to re-do the ladies they've already done, then they still have plenty of options to choose from.
>>11545551They’ll still do more ladies as well.Agent Helix and Shooter shows that.
>>11545177Yeah, a bunch of the ideas and designs from the JvC/Spy Troops/DTC era would make for great Classified. That rumored 2-pack of Blackout and Bombstrike.Heavy WatersBurnoutCross HairNeo-ViperSand-ViperVenomous MaximusAny figure of OverkillMunitiaSwamp-RatSgt HackerMajor Barrage
>>11545633Use someone else for Maximus Venomous other than Hawk.
>>11545530Globalhomo must be a nightmare on them trying to figure out which way to go.Kinda want toy accurate snake half but with Classifed twist rather than just a snake tail.
There's no Kwinn classified figure right?
Something that always bothered me.Why did 1991 Hawk take Grand Slam’s schtick? This figure should have been him.Especially since Hasbro released a normal looking General Hawk just a year later in 1992.
>>11545772IIRC they made this figure because one of the DIC executives was a Hawk fanboy and kept bugging Hasbro about giving Hawk a new action oriented toy so they could feature him on the show more
>>11545047Honestly surprised we haven't seen more of the international repaints of the figures dropped yet. Figures like Glenda and Quarrel are perfect examples of how it could be done, as two pack or exclusive releases with new heads and gear. >>11545140I hope so, her Resolute look was super cute, but I doubt the office lady look will translate well to an action figure. Looking back at the MCU's first Peggy Carter figure shows just how poorly a figure with that kind of skirt can turn out. She'll most likely have to be updated to work in Classified, but as long as they nail the head I'll be happy. >>11545495>>11545502If I said it once I said it a thousand times, the best way to do a G.I. Joe game is to just take the War For Cybertron games and slap a paint of G.I. Joe over em. Multi-character, squad based, third person cover shooter with vehicle sections and a campaign told from both sides of the conflict. It's the best way to ride that cartoonish feel that made the original Joes great while still being gritty and "realistic" enough for the older mil-sim fans to dive into. Plus, create a character multiplayer options are always fun. Essentially, make a good game first, then make it a Joe game. >>11545551Classified, as a line, can literally do *any* character they want because character choice is not what's driving the line's popularity. The reason why the line has lasted so long is straight up because the figures themselves are fantastic toys. Tons of Non-Joe fans have gotten into the line because the figures are so well done, and you have joke characters like Crystal Ball being highly in demand highlights of the line because of how cool of a figure it is. All they need to sell these toys is simply make them amazing figures.
>>11545819I want a GI Joe game to be like Metal Gear Phantom Pain, but it changes to vehicle combat, and an all out war mode where you have to manage your armies in a strategy game way just before the battle and during, then you're in Battlefield while fighting
>>11545819>Classified, as a line, can literally do *any* character they want because character choice is not what's driving the line's popularity. The reason why the line has lasted so long is straight up because the figures themselves are fantastic toys. Tons of Non-Joe fans have gotten into the line because the figures are so well done, and you have joke characters like Crystal Ball being highly in demand highlights of the line because of how cool of a figure it is. All they need to sell these toys is simply make them amazing figures.Kind of funny, because some of the stuff they've done in Classified, is shit that people hated in the old lines.Vintage lines got to the point of bio/pollution zombies, literal space aliens, mutants, and all kinds of crazy stuff.Classified has Crystal ball and his green ghost soldiers who have their own ghost dogs and snakes, and even have the heads to make themselves ghost werewolves/snake men. We also have the Mole Rats, guys with freaking energon crystals growing out of their heads.Its wild, but somehow it just all works together pretty well.
>>11546015You think these guys will be back?
>>11545819>the line's popularity.You sound crazy.You can't find the toyline in most stores, not since the movie came out like 4 years ago.Existing ≠ popular.
>>11546029Possibly, but who knows for sure. Most people thought the Mole Rats were going to be Zombie Vipers initially. The Pursuit of Cobra deco Alley Vipers that released with the Mole Rats seemed like Biohazard control, so they're willing to go into that sort of route so they're probably not off the table, I suppose.
>>11546031Judging anything by it's in store retail presence is absurd. Retail stores never cared about quality or popularity of a product, especially of smaller toy lines or single characters. They only want profitability and franchises with mass media tie ins are the only thing they really care about. The line IS popular, it's universally seen as one of the best Hasbro toylines running and despite having absolutely no media presence consistently releases new, interesting figures that are frequently very well received by the toy collecting community. Even it's multiple Haslabs have all been entirely successful and release high quality products. Relying on brick and mortar stores to judge something's popularity these days is absurd, insane and nonsensical.
>>11546052holy fuck, you sound like a Disney executive talking about how Star Wars is the most popular it's ever been.
>>11546052>The line IS popular, it's universally seen as one of the best Hasbro toylines running Transformers is getting a new movie
>>11546031>>11546052Kinda funny you guys say that right now, as Classified has probably the biggest store presence right now than it ever has, considering the big, dedicated display that Walmart has right now. Their distribution has been so shit with this line so far, so the fact that they actually have exclusives, multiple two packs, and even the Stinger (first time a vehicle has appeared at store, outside of the small motorcycles and the PP Trubble Bubble) is pretty surprising. Even Target has done much better keeping stock, since they've had the two most recent boxed waves, the two most recent retro carded waves, and other figures like the MASS Device Breaker, the generic Fireman, etc.I've even seen pretty good stock at my local Comic Shops, but stock is going to vary from everyone's LCSs, so...Buying shit online isn't really like the super secret toy buying tactic, as everyone knows about Amazon, where you can get shitloads of these guys, even figures from 2-3 years ago, and even people sorta interested in toys know about places like BBTS, Pulse, and the other specialty shops.But it is definitely that the figures feel like they offer a lot more value compared to Hasbro's other lines. The Classified Haslabs are like the only ones that get consistently funded, and there are more and more easy to get vehicles, sets, and other things beyond just the figures. There's also some quirky, interesting things in the line, like all of the articulated pets/animals that people are really digging.
>>11545772In the late 80s/early 90s GI Joe transitioned from being a toy line for Gen-X kids into a toy line for Millenial kids. Within that Hasbro was trying all sorts of new (and often shitty) ideas to pander to a new generation of kids since at that point all the kids of 1982 - 1985 were in high school. And they just didn't give any fucks about the continuity or anything from previous characters. Pretty much only the comic book writers cared, and had a hell of a time trying to keep it all coherent and linear.
>>11546211>Pretty much only the comic book writers caredWriter, singular.
>>11545819>Honestly surprised we haven't seen more of the international repaints of the figures dropped yet. Figures like Glenda and Quarrel are perfect examples of how it could be done, as two pack or exclusive releases with new heads and gear.We're up to #159 in the series now. They've almost tapped out the first six years of the original series. In order to keep it going, we'll get more repaints, post-2000 characters, and alt costumes of ones already done. >character choice is not what's driving the line's popularity. Strongly disagree. Some characters will always be more desirable than others. >because the figures themselves are fantastic toys.By and large that wasn't true. The head sculpts were clearly mimicking a comic book or cartoon design, and many outright looked like shit. NOW this year they've improved a lot. It was so weird having bodis that focused on realistic details as best as possible int hat scale while the faces themselves were rooted in something cartoony, and looked worse than cartoon likenesses.
>>11545983Or Syphon Filter where each stage has different "mission specialists," and sometimes you're running interference or defense for other non-playable specialists. >>11546015>Kind of funny, because some of the stuff they've done in Classified, is shit that people hated in the old lines.That blows my mind. Crystal Ball was a shit character based on Stephen King's son, and modelled to look like Vincent Price. Yet now in classified form people act like it's the coolest shit yet. >>11546031The ONLY Classified I've seen end up in Ollie's is Lady Jaye. That's it. The rest sell off before that could happen. >>11546052The line IS popular, it's universally seen as one of the best Hasbro toylines running and despite having absolutely no media presence Right now it's probably a better money-maker for Hasbro than Transformers and Star Wars are.
>>11546222Forgot to add pic abut said head sculpts.
>>11545983>I want a GI Joe game to be like Metal Gear Phantom PainIve always wanted an xcom or tactics rpg. Base building, where you can unlock Joes or find them in missions. Joes can get injured and are out for healing during missions. Knowing Hasbro we will get a terrible Ghost Recon rip. >>11546234>Or Syphon FilterHave not thought of that series in years. That and Tenchu like Snake Eyes game would be dope.
>>11546255Personally I don't want ninja stuff. I wouldn't mind a game like MGS with military stuff with a ninja thrown in, but the whole mindset that the franchise revolves around ninjas is something I never liked. I prefer the Joe "universe" where Snake Eyes is a commando who got badly burned in a napalm accident in Vietnam, and the only ninja works for Cobra.
>>11546222Jammer, Gaucho, and Skip could easily come from repaints of Stalker, Gung-Ho, and Falcon for store exclusives. I’m surprised they haven’t done that yet.
>>11545819We’ve gotten a toy of female Dial-Tone before back in 2009.
>>11546310That's so easy: Lady Jaye body repaint with new head and accessories. If the original He-Man can get away with infinitely recyling a handful of body parts to create a ton of new characters, then so can the Joes.
>>11546318Apparently her figure >>11546310Is Covergirl legs and boots, Lady Jaye torso and rams, with Helix repainted head.
>>11545321Iron Grenadiers are Destro's army.Kind of like Herman Goering had his personal ""airborne"" panzer division even named after him.
>>11546359People had to read the comic books to fully get it because in the comic books Cobra got all sorts of divided in a civil war. The DIC cartoon didn't touch on that at all, really. The DIC cartoon was lazy writing under the asumption that they were pandering to a new younger age group of kids than the Sunbow stuff did. The only reason why they bothered to have OG Lady Jaye and Baroness in it because after Jinx, Hasbro was openly refusing to make any more female characters, and DIC didn't want their cartoon to be one giant gay cock-fest.
>>11546398DIC also brought Scarlett and Zatanna back to. Just in their old costumes.
I wonder if 1987 Crystall Ball was suppose to be in Coba’s upper leadership.Like Destro, Baroness, The twins, Dr Mindbender, Major Bludd etc.
>>11546408He was a novelty character in association with horror writer Stephen King. The character was supposedly based on King's son, still has his son's name, and the face was modeled after Vincent Price. King is claimed to have written the original file card.
>>11546015They are good figures, goofy shit and all. That is all you really need.
>>11546408I doubt it.Hasbro didn't push him on Larry Hama, and the only other source of "who's in Cobra's high command?" would be the cartoon, which ended with the movie choosing not to use any new Cobras, just reveal Cobra-La.They also didn't use 5 of the new 1987 Joes (not counting vehicle drivers).
>>11546071As someone who never particularly cared for Star Wars, it has a larger presence in pop culture and mass media now then it did thirty years ago. The movies may be absolute shit, but the franchise as a whole is still a money making, merchandising juggernaut. >>11546075And it's getting new toylines as well, but those lines are always hit and miss and are generally only popular with Transformers fans specifically, or kids. Classified on the other hand is popular and praised by the wider toy collection communities in general, regardless of whether people know about Joes or not, just because they're really good figures. Transformers is a more popular franchise, but Classified is a better toyline. >>11546076I haven't stepped foot in a Wal-Mart in years, but none of the Targets by me have any Classified figures on the shelves. But toy sections are anemic afterthoughts outside of Christmas for most of these places so that's not surprising. But yes, this does agree with my point that Classified as a toyline is doing well because it is, at it's core just a *really* good toyline. >>11546222>Some characters will always be more desirable than others.True, but a shit toy of a popular character won't be as desired as a great toy of a shitty character. >The head sculpts were clearly mimicking a comic book or cartoon design, and many outright looked like shitThat's blatantly not true, right from the start Classified had top notch face sculpts, and the original wave was entirely unique designs for the characters not based on pre-existing concepts. Hell the original Scarlet face alone sold that figure to tons of people despite it being the weakest of the original line-up. So far the line has only had two really bad face sculpts, and both characters got their redemption with newer releases, but Classified sculpts, especially their faces, was always a strong point of the line.
>>11546515>They also didn't use 5 of the new 1987 JoesWhile adding in one not even in the toy catalog for whatever reason (Big Lob).
>>11546255Eh, a tactical RPG game like that would have to kind of gloss over the fact that every Joe is a unique character with a unique role. Kind of defeats the point of making a Joe game when it just becomes a generic military game. >>11546258This I agree with, Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow were cool because they were unique characters with unique skills. The more Ninja you add the less important they get and the less fun Ninjas as a whole become. Any media version of G.I. Joe needs to sell the unique character and personality traits of all the various Joes, or else it just becomes another generic army many (or in this case Ninja Man) game. >>11546310Oh I know, I have her. Even tried to mod her to get a hairstyle closer to the one from Resolute. >>11546318G.I. Joe has literally been doing that for decades. >>11546356She was a straight Repaint of RoC Covergirl with a Helix Head, though RoC Covergirl did use 25th Lady Jaye parts as well. >>11545321You mean troops that follow specific Cobra characters? Entirely possible, it all depends on what items they have to reuse to tie to other characters. Personally I'd love a Cobra Nightwatch set to follow Firefly around. A team of Cobra Saboteurs to assist the expert Cobra Saboteur. Though I'd much prefer other factions from G.I. Joe's history get some love. Armies like the Red Shadows, S.K.A.R. or the Iron Army, more enemies for the Joes to battle against outside of Cobra.
>>11546477No. Sneak Peak was made to look like King’s son with Owen King being his name. But it was Stephen King who created Crystal Ball
>>11546222>the toys by and large were not fantastic figures, only this year they've improved >Classifed Uh huh
>>11546530>Eh, a tactical RPG game like that would have to kind of gloss over the fact that every Joe is a unique character with a unique role. Kind of defeats the point of making a Joe game when it just becomes a generic military game.The Jagged Alliance games are similar to XCOM but with unique characters. It's been done.
>>11546533These days Hasbro calls him "Richard King."
>>11546522>but the franchise as a whole is still a money making, merchandising juggernaut. ooof... This is like crowing about Star Wars being number 1 at the box office and making $46million ... but the movie cost $300million to make. And the only competition were foreign movies and documentaries. And it was Labor Day Weekend.Fact is, GI Joe (and star wars) has lost a shit ton of support at retail. The biggest toy store in the world (Walmart) only carries the line at half of its stores. It sells so poorly that half of those stores only give the bare minimum amount of pegs, whereas actual popular lines get ~10 pegs. Same with Target, who only put out the bare minimum pegs. That's not a good sign. And physical retail still makes up 9/10ths of sales in the US.I mean, back when Star Wars was actually popular, Star Wars usually got an entire aisle for itself during movie years. The only time Star Wars got that after Disney bought Star Wars was for Force Awakens, but the next movie got half an aisle... and the movie after that got half an aisle... and then it shrank to 1/4th of an aisle. By the time the last movie came out, Star Wars had 8 pegs, like GI Joe used to get back in the 10s, after its movie bombed and had no media support. gigantic decline in sales, which reflected how unpopular Star Wars became.Does GI Joe even have 8 pegs today?So the fact that you confuse something existing with it being popular, it's literally a delusion.Pic shows the absolute dearth of Star Wars at retail. A movie year, with next to no space for Black Series figures, when before it would have >20 pegs for it.
G.I.Joe needs to do what Transformers did 15 years ago with Rescue Bots. So a kiddie cartoon that will act as a gateway for young fans entering the franchise.Have it be the G.I.Joe Adventure Team. Use the Joes with pets like Snake Eyes, Shipwreck, Mutt and Spirit. Female Dial-Tone operates the computers. female Doc is the medical doctor. .Have them stop guys like Gnawgahyde from poaching. Captain Cobra is the head villain and lives in Springfield
>>11538527I miss 3.75 modern joe figures
>>11546696me too bro
>>11546693I like this.Such a great idea.
>>11546673That's far more telling for Star Wars than GI Joe. GI Joe hasn't had a legitimately relevant source in probably 10-15 years, and the movies were pretty middling anyway. SW has practically the opposite problem; total oversaturation, considering it seems like every other month they release a new show and/or movie and almost all of them flop. Black series has been running for so long, and people can only buy so many Darth Vaders, Lukes, Hans, Chewbaccas, Anakins, Obi-Wans, etc. And with climbing prices, the new versions of those figures are side-grades usually, and the other waves are filled with literally whos from the Disney era. We're not even talking about "random alien in the Cantina or Jabba's Palace scenes" we're talking about "random background character from the Acolyte."Nobody actually gives a shit about modern Star Wars, is what the problem is. GI Joes' problem is that hardly anyone even knows about it, because there is basically no source outside of some comics.People obviously know about and support the line, when they are the only Haslabs that consistently fully fund, whereas SW and Marvel (and other) Haslabs fail left and right.
>>11546693They shouldEven if it means I have to deal with 50 somethings getting mad at it
>>11546693Ironic since Rescue Bots was originally a Gi Joe cartoon called Adventure Team that got changed up at the last minute. Someone dropped the slides for it a while back.
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>>11546696Same. I'd kill Classified in a heartbeat to revive that scale instead
>>11546753Its crazy how faithful they were being to the cartoon backstories of the original characters. There's no way they'd make something like this today without fucking everyone up somehow.
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>>11546756Why'd they make Rock n' Roll so tanned >>11546693>female Doc is the medical doctor.No wait I'm a hypocrite I'd be fine with that
>>11546788Surfer out in the sun all day I guess.
>>11546712You're basically saying that because STar Wars dropped further, it means GI Joe's drop wasn't bad. It's like saying you're better off being a noble who died in prison instead of royalty who got hanged during the French Revolution.Shit doesn't work that way. GI Joe going from a medium sized popular line in the 10s to a niche sideline like Bravo Team Elite in the 20s is worrying and bad, dude. Whereas Star Wars is basically where GI Joe was at in the 10s. medium sized. I mean, here you are crowing about Haslab because they sell 15-20k vehicles every year and a half. Compare that to the 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s, when they sold 300k-1million vehicles on a yearly/monthly basis. Take picture for example. At bare minimum, if every Walmart, Target, and TRU got a single case of Eaglehawks, they'd sell 24,000 units in a SINGLE quarter (4 months). Of course, stores ordered much more than a single case and thousands of other toy stores exist...You're either supremely ignorant about sales or a full on nutter. >>11546755Hasbro knows this. They fear people like you, hence cockblocking Hiya from selling their figures in the US.You can't have a modern equivalent, so you're forced into buying their Classified line... in theory.
>>11546673lol
>>11546753>>11546756>>11546759I"m glad that shit failed before launch >>11546788Race-flipped
>>11546812I'm really convinced you're just a bot or something. You're clearly the same retard who has been droning on and on since the beginning of Classified that it has been "dying" for the last 5 (almost 6) years at this point.Nothing has the same shelf space it did 10, 20, and especially 30-40 years ago. Yes, if you're old enough, we all remember being able to walk into a toy store and there was a whole aisle dedicated to GI Joe, or Transformers, or TMNT, or LEGO, or whatever, but those days are long gone.You're not proving anything except that you are just as desperate to convince us that GI Joe is dead as you were the last time. And the time before that. And the time before THAT...
>>11546869>the guy talking like a marketing press release calling anyone else a botI also like how you're saying anyone who who has spoken negatively about Classified as samefag, but i guess this is how you need to enforce your niche worldview.Just so you know, I've almost never said anything negatively about GI Joe until this year, because it's become more apparent of how bad sales have been. Retail has dropped almost all support for the line, at least in the multiple states I've visited these past few years.>Nothing has the same shelf space it did 10The toy market hasn't shrunk though and is actually bigger than it was back then. This just means Star Wars fell massively in popularity and GI Joe became a niche military line that makes it as popular as Power Team Elite was in the 00s.Why's this so hard for you to understand?oh right, because that would mean admitting GI Joe isn't as popular as you pretend it to be and break your mind.
>>11546759Sexy barely legal Baroness
This is gonna be two guys arguing about comics for two weeks again
>>11546906>The toy market hasn't shrunk though and is actually bigger than it was back then.That's questionable
>>11546906>The toy market hasn't shrunk though and is actually bigger than it was back thenlmao
>>11546750>Man of AsiaWow.
>>11546546Dick King
>>11545530>Who are the last Cobra army builders from 1982-198, not counting drivers or pilots?Up to 1987, it's only Cobra-La Royal Guard and a lot of vehicle guys; Viper Glider Pilot (just a slight repaint of a basic Cobra Trooper), Lamprey, AVAC, Strato-Viper, Motor Viper, Gyro-Viper, Ice Viper, Sea Slug, WORMS,1988 has Astro-Viper, Hydro-Viper and Toxo-Viper who were released as single figures, plus Star Viper and IG Ferret and Nullifier.>>11545663I'm sure they can just make a Venomous Maximus toy without any reference to whether he's Hawk or a new separate character, and just leave it up to anyone who buys him to decide.>>11545697I've said it before, but release Golobulus at around the same price point as the animal packs, with a torso that can plug into a snake tail or that floating ball. Give him a few accessories like the original toy's rifle, his cane from the movie, and a melee weapon like in the new comics, plus a stand for the ball, and some energy blast effects.
>>11545772They'd already duplicated the "jet pack guy" role with Starduster, even if he was just a mail-in figure, and Hasbro probably felt this toy would sell better if it was an established character that was important, rather than being an all-new third jet pack guy character, or a new version of a guy from 9 years ago that hadn't been relevant in almost that long.This anon >>11546211 is right about how by the early 90s the toys were aiming for a new generation of kids to the ones who'd have been around for the early years of the line, though "Hawk has a jetpack now" wasn't really hurting any prior continuity or characterization, unless there's some older comic issue or cartoon episode where Hawk has an aversion to jetpacks.
>>11546906Retail has dropped because of PRICES. The price has pushed most children out to where adult collectors are carrying the whole damn industry right now. And the reason why toy aisles are dominated by nostalgia brands is because that's what the adult buyer wants. It's not hard to understand. It's a different economy than it was 20 years ago. And within that economy, GI Joe cartoons are available for free on YouTube, Star Wars clogs the clearance stores like Ollie's, and GI Joe does not.
>>11546673You posted what I was thinking. Toy aisles have changed a lot. They're not as full as they used to be, and in comparison to 20 years ago they're even sloppy-looking. And that blame falls onto Star Wars. Retailers took a massive loss with the merch from the Disney SW movies. Some stores still have some of that shit floating around. So now they just don't order the volumes of toys that they used to in order to minimize losses. And that effects the retail prices. There is such a thing called economies of scale, and in this case it means that the more a retailer bulk-buys, the cheaper the per-unit price is per item, so the lower they can sell it for. Retailers buying less means that we pay more, and is a part of the whole chain from production to retail that's driving up prices.
>>11546869Every time I walk into a Walmart or Target in 2025, Lego has a whole aisle.Demand for action figures has just shrunk.
>>11547363It's this. The kids who would have been into action figures 30-40 years ago play mobile/video games now.
>>11547383>The kids who would have been into action figures 30-40 years ago play mobile/video games now.Only because they have been given no other choice. No good cartoons to watch, no good toys to buy. Imagine the eyestrain these kids will have from staring at a screen everyday from the age of 2. They'll all need coke bottle glasses by the time their our age.
>>11547391Gotta agree with this. New cartoons are being made, but they're shit like a little Black girl lecturing Optimus Prime on getting the pronouns of one of his autobots right, or ponies manipulating children on gayness and diversity.Video games are the only real stimulation that's plentiful, cheap, and available on a format most of them have (phone). They don't notice nor care that it's intangible, and something they really can't touch and own.
>>11547394Prices are a factor. Their parents enjoyed $5 - $10 figures. They gotta pay $20 - $30 for one. Video games went from $50 to $60/$70 within one generation, but toys have more than doubled in price in that same time frame.
>>11547397The older I get, the more I understand this guy.
>>11547420Yes I know, and they're shit like these 2POA Joe figures.
>>11547420Hasbro is putting all their GI Joe budget in expensive 6" nostalgia bait at this point. Either that or they're hoping kids watch Sunbow GI Joe on YouTube. Their 1/18 lines both failed because 1/18 collectors have higher standards now that they weren't meeting and parents weren't buying them for kids.
>>11547474Their 3-3/4" line failed because of stupid little decisions like "cartoon colors," which was a waste of the CC reissue fans waited decades for. They made a new mold for that one, but how about 1985 Snake Eyes and 1986 BAT? Nope. It's like they deliberately avoided giving fans the reissues they want the most. The Skystriker was their only good idea in that retro series.
>>11547474Their 3-3/4 retro line failed because it was intended to fail in order to justify the move to 6". I remember seeing tons of those Cobra Troopers on the pegs. No one wanted them because they looked like cheap dollar store knockoffs.
Cellphones ruined toys for kids and then prices for everyone else.
>>11546753Hector Ramirez was Cobra Commander!?
>>11547474https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ3mxF4U__kwell, at least 174 people are spending Sunday watching it, maybe some are kids
>>11547474This line (modern era 1:18 retro) was awesome. This Cobra Trooper in particular was a great redesign and a lot better from a playable pov than the Pursuit of Cobra trooper.Too bad it has less colors, and proportions seem off (clown feet) but it has extra articulation at the thighs and better range of motion in the arms.Plaatic quality took a dive though, this one, Stalker and Grunt had the same problem with softer plastic in their bodies and weapons 2hich made them bendy shit like knockoffs.
>>11547623I don't know if the softer plastic was to make them less prone to broken crotches and thumbs, or because it's cheaper. There's an argument for both. >>11547579That's always around the number watching 24 hours a day. My only disappointment is they keep comments off as if they don't want to hear from fans.
>>11547481Part of the problem was Retro Series being a completely dumbass rebranding of 25A. 25A should have remained the mainline 1/18 scale toyline and then the O-ring figures should have been called the Retro Series, because they're retro. The Retro Series rebrand of 25A was basically a bunch of reissues, many of which were inferior to their older releases, like Duke who got a silly looking O-face head sculpt, garish colors and most of his paint apps skipped. Plus his redesigned "articulated wrists" caused his arms to pop out and look horrible. And he wasn't even the worst offender. That dishonor goes to Scarlet who completely abandoned her original 25A toolings and got a truly half-assed repaint of Shooter. Her shoulderpad isn't even sculpted, it's just a paint app and it looks like babby's fist custom figure.There were a couple of good reissues in that line-- the Cobra Trooper, Cobra Officer, Cobra Commander, and Destro were all fine, and I even liked the taller Roadblock figure even if his ankles weren't articulated (although like most toys in the line his accessories were a complete random mish mash instead of giving the fans the ones that they wanted). The problem is so many of the figures just had no understanding of the characters and that further undermined any credibility that the "retro" claim had. They came with wrong accessories, wrong colors, or were just random, like Snake Eyes who was the ninja version's head on the commando version's body with ninja weapons and an elastic parachute harness with no parachute for some reason. The line was 25A when everyone at Hasbro stopped giving a shit, just swept up everything off the floor, stuffed it into blister packs and tried to sell it. It was such a horrible fall from grace after the 50th anniversary rebrand which gave the line many of the best figures it ever had.
>>11547631>My only disappointment is they keep comments off as if they don't want to hear from fans.They just dont want to pay someone to make sure there isn't a pedophile trying to talk to kids or spamming nigger over and over 24 7
>>11547637Stalker and Grunt were the best versions of the character at normal scale. It just the quality of plastic was very cheap.That Scarlett had the best head sculpt of the character so it was very saught after.Snake Eyes was the Pursuit of Cobra reissue, the one most fans agree is the best version although it only came with one head instead of two like the previous one; the accesories were the same.
>>11547631The T-crotches are plastic too. They will last far far less than the steel ones.I had a Stalker break on me just by manipulating it soon after taking him off the card. And the weapons are fucking disgusting gummy plastic.
>>11547247Hydro Viper and Toxo Viper are definitely on their way to Classified.Ice Viper too if the arctic theme is lasting a while.
>>11547654That or the guys spamming the russian copypasta, or indians.
>>11547637Most of the Wal-Mart 4inch releases were quick reuses of existing releases or tweaks or paint apps and the the odd new tooling.>>Snake EyesPursuit of Cobra reissue minus goggled head and different paint apps>>Stormshadow30th/Renegades reissue minus alt head and different paint apps>>Baroness25th/50th rerelease (including the RoC accessories that thte 50th had) and different paint apps>>Destro50th reuse with different paint apps>>RoadblockRetaliation body reuse and a brand new head>>Lady Jaye50th repaint>>Cobra CommanderSDCC Missile Command Centre release with new paint apps>>Duke25th/50th DVD screaming Duke repaint>>Scarlettkitbash figure with new head and accessory load like the Joe vs Cobra SDCC Scarlett from the Red Rattler/Soundwave HiSS set.>>Cobra TrooperBrand new tooling and construction without metal screws or t-bar>>StalkerBrand new tooling and construction without metal screws or t-bar>>GruntShared torso from Stalker, new accessories and head sculpt>>Cobra OfficerShared with the trooper and new accessories>>HiSS w/HiSS DriverSDCC SDCC Missile Command Centre trooper with new head, vest and legs>>HiSS 3 w/Rip-Itrepaint of HISS driver>>FANG w/Cobra PilotShared tooling of the Trooper/Officer with new torso and accessories and head sculpt>>AWE Striker w/Crankcasekitbash with new head and helmet
>>11546408>>11546515After Serpentor and Mindbender in 86, the only later Cobra characters who seem intended to be high command are Overlord and then Venomous Maximus in the 2000s. You could argue a case for Cesspool because of him being an evil CEO, I guess.Despite Overlord being a new high command villain with his own vehicle, Hasbro didn't order Marvel or DIC to include him in the comics and cartoons, though there were a few toy ads which presented him as if he was Cobra's new leader, and also made it look like Sgt Slaughter was the Joes' leader.
>>11547746Would buy
>>11547753one of my favorites and also one of the last action figures I got as a kid.I remember filling his backpack with lighter fluid one day to make an awesome flamethrower but it didn't work out.
>>11547579YOOOOO JOE!!!!
>>11547284> There is such a thing called economies of scaleDoesn't apply, but i get what you're saying.Yes, aisle space has shrunk. The actoin figure aisles may be 3/4th of what they were 10 years ago and even 10 years ago they were shrunk by about 1/5th from what they were in the 00s.And i wouldn't blame Star Wars necessarily, because stores since 2012 shifted over to ordering even fewer toylines. Before the economic crisis of 2008-2011, pretty much every movie got a toyline and there were many more original lines in stores like Walmart. Since disposeable income shrunk, so did toy sales, thus stores got used to ordering less shit.So by the time Star Wars came out, stores (mostly Walmart) had pretty much set the modern way of stocking toys, but since Star Wars became muchless popular thanks to Disney... well, nothing really filled the Star Wars vacuum, so the aisles became even smaller.Not everything has to be Star Wars though, hence most toy companies selling their toys for even cheaper than Star Wars figures without cheaping out on articulation/paint/etc. Even Hasbro priced their own lines for cheaper (mostly before the the econ crisis) than the Star Wars lines, because each line needs to support itself.
>>11546935Nothing questionable about documented facts. Even if you discount the fact that toys have crazily risen in price these past few years (and a slight decline thanks to COVID) 10 years ago was still much smaller in terms of revenue (~30b today) than before COVID/shipping crisis>>11547267you're literally insane. Your ramblings has nothing to do with the fact that GI Joe is less popular than it used to be and the fact that Star Wars clogs places like Ollies is simply because retailers expected Star Wars to continue selling like hot cakes. Whereas GI Joe... well that had bare minimum support for the movie that bombed, so whatever overstock came about from that bomb was minimal and anything ordered after that would be bare minimum orders for a non-movie toyline, which means there's even less shit that could go on clearance/dumped at outlets.Still, the fact is, the toy market is bigger than it used to be and action figure sales have shrunk because theyre less popular (because Disney ruined Marvel/star Wars). GI Joe being the tallest midget on life support doesn't mean he's popular with the ladies. He's still a midget and chads like Star Wars with his legs chopped off are still taller than him. YOU may like GI Joe Classified and THINK they're doing all the right decisions, but the toyline is a shadow of it once was in terms of popularity/sales. Even on /toy/, these threads aren't as popular as they were even back when Hasbro made it a TRU/online exclusive after Retaliation.
>>11547844Got any newer data? Because from what I can see, most toy sales are stagnate, at best, even on the decline after 2021/2022. And outside of the US, most sources say toys are on a slight decline altogether.Last 5 years are probably pretty skewed anyway, which is weird, considering pretty much every product from toys, to collectibles, to cars to houses exploded in sales thanks to Covid stimmy bux. Most charts so hasbro shit like Marvel and super hero toys as a literal flat bar on most charts, and some heap in anime toys and figures (which anime and manga are already a booming market in recent years) and many studies and charts actually heap in "hobby" sales like Pokemon cards which shows waaaay more growth than there realistically is for action figures alone.Though this chart shows the next few years projected growth, it looks more like it declines for a couple years, and has mostly been level at best in most categories.
>>11547815Yeah we really need more Eco Warriors in Classified We don't really have the same problem as He-Man fans who just want the 80s stuff and nothing else made (they've also been dragging it out for years)
>>11547746Why was every 1990 release a new character? Not even one returning Joe or Cobra?I always found that weird.
What the fuck is this thread even about anymore
>>11547876Which Eco Warrior do you want a Classified of
>>11547857That's a good question, and I have no idea why not. Setting aside characters who did get new figures in the 2-3 years before and after 1990, and accepting the reality that Hasbro just didn't want to make new female figures, which important/popular Joes and Cobras would you say would have been the most overdue for a new figure by 1990, and never got one afterwards in 1991-4 either?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGxNdVO2YK4We should have gotten these
>>11547907Not him, but I'd want probably all of them. Especially the bad guys like that version of Cesspool, the Sludge Vipers, and the Toxo Vipers. The also now have two of the vehicles that were just repaints from that line (the HISS and the AWE.)
>>11547851Unfortunately, most shit has gotten paywalled or has disappeared off the internet thanks to zoomers not liking to read. Almost feels like it's 2001-2004 again, back with the internet crash and free money no longer being a thing.And i wouldn't say that toys sales have stagnated (aside from COVID fuckig everything over) because sales have increased.Do note that you don't see anything from 2024 because of how long it takes for them to tally and figure that shit out. >many studies and charts actually heap in "hobby" sales like Pokemon cards which shows waaaay more growth than there realistically is for action figures alone.This shouldn't matter, because those sales have been included by research/survey groups like TRST/NPD since at least 2002 or 2003 (people on GAF used to have access to their data). It just shows what types of toys are popular, hence NPD charging otu the ass for their reports, because toy companies want to know what the next new hot thing is to copy.So if cards are super popular in 2021-2025 and action figure sales are also down, well, it might be because kids are buying cards instead of actiojn figures, and NPD's data would reflect that by showing card sales going up while action figures sales are going down. And NPD does break down the ages of who buys what too, btw, even asking if they're buying it for someone else and their a/s/l/$. NPD does some really fascinated shit. They even used to freely publish articles (minus sales/unit data) until like 2005, where they'd talk about why sales are up for X and/or down for Q. I used to do surveys for them back in the day too. Weekly/monthly about my buying habits and if i said i bought a video game/toy that month/week, they'd send me extra surveys to ask me questions about that.I really like this chart. You can definitely see how Star Wars and Avengers made 2019 bigger than normal
>>11547922These are terrible and I hate them. The limited articulation and goofy styles didn't excite me one bit
>>11547990The artwork is pretty sick, but conceptually, its way too weird for GI Joe. And I'm a person who actually thought the oddball shit like Mega Marines, Ninja Force, and Eco Warriors was cool as a kid.They already lost me with the Star Brigade figures that were heavily armored because they didn't even really feel like GI Joes anymore, and these would have been more of that.
>>11547921Airtight, Mainframe, and maybe (non-Magnum P.I.) Chuckles.For Cobras:Non-vehicle Wild Weasel maybe.I was going to say Scrap Iron. But Metal Head was released that year.)New figures of Crimson Twins would be the best ones though.But let’s face it. Any one of the females from Baroness to Zarana to Lady Jaye to Covergirl would be more well known.
>>11547844You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
>>11547990Yeah, but I bet Classified could make it work since it'd all be switchable parts
>>11547709>>11547637I wasn't talking about those. I was referring to the O-ring retro collection with the best piece being the Haslab Skystriker. Everything else was largely a letdown due to "cartoon colors" and a weird cheaper plastic. They made the effort to produce a new mold for V.1 Cobra Commander (which was a lost mold), but refused to do the same for the BAT or 1985 Snake Eyes (both for which are also lost molds).
>>11548079He's basically arguing since that the whole of the toy industry is down, GI Joe must NOT be popular. It is, and it does have free media to support it on Youtube with the classic cartoons. I know the cartoons effect the sales with how quickly and how madly the Cold Slither boxed set sold.
>>11547876Subby autism
>>11548054Looking into it, Breaker, Doc, Snow Job, Torpedo, Blowtorch, Ripcord, Alpine and Quick Kick would have been options for the Joes, too. Shipwreck didn't even get a second figure until 1994.For Cobras, the only real options aside from the ones you name would be Serpentor and the early Dreadnoks, but you're probably right that they wouldn't want to do a new version of Scrap Iron in the same year as Metal Head was introduced.>But let’s face it. Any one of the females from Baroness to Zarana to Lady Jaye to Covergirl would be more well known.I can only assume that the female figures must not have been selling well for Hasbro to stop them entirely after Jinx in 1987, with Ninja Force Scarlett being the only one in the later years of the original run.
>>11548090Hmm
>>11538527Any solid dates or info on this guy yet? Non-joe collector but he looks awesome
>>11548342>I can only assume that the female figures must not have been selling well for Hasbro to stop them entirely after Jinx in 1987At that point they were no longer selling to Gen-X kids, and were selling to millenial kids. Maybe they felt that millenials were all fags who only wanted sausage-fest toys? DIC definitely noticed and apparently didn't like it either, hence the inclusion of female characters with no toy being offered included in the cartoon.
I certainly didn't know any kid who had female action figures besides Princess Leia. For some reason she was the exception. Baroness, Scarlett, April O'neil, Teela, Evil Lynn... I never saw them in the wild. Everyone had male figures from those franchises. Girls didn't have them either because they were only into barbies and other pink stuff. (Around 1987-1994)
>>11548407Baroness was a short-pack, so in spite of modern internet making a lot available now, she was a pain in the ass to find. Well hooded CC, Firefly, and SS were also pains to find in the 1984 catalog. But boys did want her not only to fill in the collection but also because her character was just bad ass in all black. She wasn't what kids were expecting. We were expecting a bright blue one like in the cartoon at that point. Lady Jaye and Scarlett became must-haves too because every single episode of the 1985 and 1986 cartoon had one or the other, or both in it.
>>11548407I had all three female figures from He-Man. By the time I switched to GI Joe in 87, I wanted everyone in the Sunbow cartoon but there were no token women left on the pegs but Zarana and Jinx. Of course I also missed out on most of the good guy stars of the cartoon until Hasbro started making new versions and that took years (Snake Eyes and Stalker in 89, Hawk in 90 but no Duke until 92! And no Shipwreck until the line was dying, and as a SEAL diver!)
>>11548466Zarana was the only time I bought a toy with pink on it. After having Zartan and Zandar, I sort of needed her to complete the trio, especially since the cartoon used her far more often than Zandar. Right now in both the vintage originals as well as the modern ones, Baroness and Zarana are still my only two female figures.
>>11548380Early 2026. Yeah I know. Shit moves slow now. This is the same company that used to be able to shit out up to 20 figures plus vehicles in a single wave all at once. So you gotta wait for them to get through a few other figures first. >>11546753There's a weird charm to having a figure of a used-car salesman who would become Cobra Commander. >>11546696Hasbro handed it off to Super7+, and that company wants to actively avoid new O-ring versions of black BAT, black Baroness, black Snake Eyes v.2, and other shit that would be easy to sell. >>11543340We know the exact production number is 26,903. Factor in people who bought it and are NOT selling it (which is probably a large %). It's still being produced and shipping out. Once that stops, the price won't go down. It's up to you to decide if you want one now or wait until God knows how ling before Hasbro re-uses the mold.
>>11548540Keep in mind they also shit out stuff by "surprise" these days too
>>11548389I'll admit I'm not American, but it's hard to imagine in any country the tail end of one generation and the earliest years of the next being that vastly different. If you're born just a few years apart, you all grow up on broadly the same pop culture as each other, it takes a few years into a new generation for things to really start to change, and more so as that generation gets older.Also, it's worth noting that in the later 1980s, Hasbro had two other toy lines, Inhumanoids and Visionaries, where female characters were created for the cartoons or comics, but there were no plans to actually make them as toys, even if those lines had made it to a second year. That points towards the company just thinking that boys didn't want toys of girls.>>11548480>especially since the cartoon used her far more often than Zandar.Zandar really lives his gimmick of everyone forgetting he's there.
>>11548540>It's up to you to decide if you want one now or wait That's what I've said, I've given up, people are asking too much for a Classified so I am priced out, thus I'm going to wait until someone else does a similar character or they release another version. I knew I should have just jumped out the window.
>>11548914Underneath the flight vest she's 100% the blue original but in a darker shade. When considering that they used the first Baroness mold three times, this one will totally be back in original colors and with different accessories. It's obviously something they planned for.
>>11548965If it makes them money, sure
>>11548293stop making shit up, dude.There's multiple charts in this thread proving that the toy industry has grown every year (except maybe a single year because of COVID). So if sales are down for action figures, it's because they're not as popular as they once were.Again, you're pretending that something existing = it's popular.You keep gloating about how because it has no media presense, that somehow proves its popular just because stores sell it. Yet we know for a fact that sales are nowhere near where they were a decade ago for the simple fact that they don't have the same retail presense they had back then. You crow about Haslab vehicles selling ~20k units is some impressive number, yet GI Joe used to sell at least thrice that number back when it was actually supported by retailers and had more vehicles to sell too. Every quarter.By your logic, that new Naked Gun movie was popular, because it came out in theaters.
>>11548787>That points towards the company just thinking that boys didn't want toys of girls.IT's not profitable.Lots of research was done and just looking at what sells on shelves pointed toward boys not wanting/buying toys of girlsYeah, they'd sell SOME but no one wants to deal with pegwarmers of shit no one wants to buy, hence avoiding making female figures as much as possible.There are always exceptions to the rule though, so sometimes a female figure is super popular. In a lot of cases, a female figure becomes popular years later in the secondary market because collectors are insane who want to just buy shit just to complete their collection. This has happened with figures like this Toad figure, who was one of the biggest shelf warmers that you could buy them for nearly a dollar years after its release. A decade later, after stores probably shredded their remaining stock of Toad, crazy collectors started paying $100+ for it on Ebay, just to complete their ML collection.Other features that toy companies tend to avoid(ed) thanks to decades of market research: facial hair, bald, black, fat, cripples, and ugly. Obviously, monsters/aliens/etc can look ugly... to a certain degree. And again, there's always exceptions to the rule, like Hulk Hogan.Toy companies will always take chances though, so these rules aren't that strict. Characters like Stalker (black, facial hair) sold well, but they're generally the last to sell out from a wave.
Wow, this might be the best 1:18 human figure I've ever purchased
>>11549318His whip is kinda lane though. Would have been nice if it had been bendy wire
>>11549320Okay, torso and arns are great, but hips, knees and neck could be better. Still, very solid figure
>>11549322
>>11549324
>>11549294People like McFarlane proved all of you fags wrong in the 1990s. Even now you can see Rattler Baroness is probably the most valuable figure from Classified right now. Even back then in the late 80s/early 90s Catwoman was the most sought figure from the Batman movie line, and April is one of the most valuable 80s Ninja turtle figures. Boys weren't as anti-girl as some assume, and some (like me) thought it was pretty gay to only be guys.
>>11549397Todd McFarlane is probably not the guy you want to reference given he has gone on record in the last few years on not making figures of girls in his DC line because he thought if young boy was given one instead of a guy figure, he might become so upset that it sets him on the road to being a serial killer
>>11549412He can virtue-signal all he wants now. Late-90s collectors remember what he produced.
>>11549423Hell, OGs remember "Party" Angela.
>>11549423He didn't make those for kids back then, now he explicitly makes toys with kids in mind
>>11549439And adult collectors and not kids are buying. He's just making excuses for why he won't make an attractive female now out of fear of cancel culture.
>>11549324I really should have been a 1/18th collector, you guys are the patricians. Ah well.
>>11549322How is the gator
>>11550041Same as it ever was
>>11550041I actually glanced at that in the catalog for a few seconds. Nearly got me there, you obsessed freak.
>>11549444It was a very rough previous decade, but Mattel never fully abandoned us with the Hammond Collection, and the Chinese and Taiwanese really came in to save the day with articulation and sculpted detail. I really hope Hiya starts doing vehicles because I'd love to get a hisstank
>>11550200Damn anon this isn't the coomer thread. Is the blue haired girl on the truck an Acid Rain? Those figures look super cool, I am envious, I am a bit disappointed with their first 1/12 wave guys, I was hoping for some of the other soldier designs.
>>11549397Almost all of the examples of a female character's figure becoming highly sought is because it was one of the lowest produced/shortpacked figures.>>11549412Todd has always been an eccentric, weird, oddball, though. Remember, this is probably the only guy on Earth who was legit sad NFTs didn't take off and become a huge thing.
>>11549397There's a big difference between 85% of boys, who make up 70% of toy sales, not wanting to buy toys of girls and a bunch adult speculators who'll never open their figures because it'll ruin the value of their toys.And this is why McFarlane Toys still only made like 9 female figures in the 90s, in male centric waves. And as time went on, as they figured out what sold or not, they made even fewer females. And they were probably shortpacked, like they usually are too. So they made 9 female toys out of... ~100 figures.So even McFarlane Toys knew what sold, because this is a heavily researched thing, hence toy companies still producing very few toys of females. >b-b-b-but Figmas and coomer thread figures!caters toward a niche demographic that sell tens of thousands, unlike toys found in the toy aisles sold for boys that sell in the hundreds of thousands to millions of units.
>>11550227>Damn anon this isn't the coomer threadLol, probably should have put Negan on the bike since Jill has problems sitting in any position without pushing her rubber skirt up. >Is the blue haired girl on the truck an Acid Rain? yeah, Nadia's an Acid Rain figure, kind of a mixed bag in that she has the updated leg articulation that is some of the best in the scale, even now 2 years later, but unlike the other female character that came out in her wave, she still has the older shoulder and elbow articulation. Still, love her design, and it's not like I can complain too much since back when she came out, the only real competition for her were Joytoy figures that still had the issue of falling apart and American BFS/CFT figures, which aren't even in the same league when it comes to articulation. I will say if you are interested, 100% do not buy her for her insane aftermarket markup price. The $150+ people are asking for is absurd and she's in no way worth that (for just $20 more, you could buy the Ankylo armored vehicle). I bought her for $42 on PIA Club when she first came out and felt it was worth it.https://pia-club.com/product/acid-rain-fav-a87-nadia/?v=d41d8cd98f00>I am a bit disappointed with their first 1/12 wave guysI think they look neat, but the lack of deco to keep the price down (while still being 10 bucks more than a Hasbro Joe) makes them uninteresting to me, especially since I mostly don't collect 1/12 anymore.
>>11550295>I think they look neatYeah not saying they are bad, just a personal taste thing. When they announced a 1/12 line I was looking through all their 1/18 ones and hyped myself up, but the ones they went weren't what I was hoping for. I'm sure if it works out they'll get to ones I like more.
I think this is a youtuber who I see spammed on /toy/ all the time (I don't really pay that much attention to it), maybe it's that guy who hates Haslabs or something?https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=t1gcWUKhCSkAnyway I guess Monster Force is finally releasing shit
>>11550496lolIt fits perfectly
>>11550496Some of the MF stuff has been out for like a month or two now. I've been tempted on some of their generic troopers, but just haven't pulled the trigger yet.
>>11550528Season one has been out for like a year you mean, unless season 2 is leaking out of Chinese factories BBTS hasn't released them yet, but they're very nice but expensive
>>11550496>He doesn't know about Men In Black, either the movie or the real life legend He looks like he's 60 so that's surprising
I can only hope
>>11550588Ghost viper hasn't even gone on sale yet, has it?
>>11550588Budo and Desert Scorpion are believable. That last one a few weeks ago had figures like Armored CC, v4 SE, and Slice and Dice arriving soon, and they're starting to show up in places and people are getting them.
>>11550631There's probably five figures to be released in between now and the Ghost Viper.
Does anyone know if these F.I.S.T. figures are any good?https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/281723I don't have much interest in the line in general, but an ork in generic modern combat gear seems like a safely appealing figure to get, and it's on greater discount today.
>>11548540>Hasbro handed it off to Super7+, and that company wants to actively avoid new O-ring versions of black BAT, black Baroness, black Snake Eyes v.2, and other shit that would be easy to sell.A black BAT will be out in either wave 5 or wave 6. Wave 5 comes out next month, and they just put out that Python Patrol Bat with the new Sunbow head. They have 5 waves of Reacton+ from October thru January:G.I. Joe wave 5- OctoberUniversal Monsters Wave 1- Fall(LIkely october as well)Micronauts Wave 2- December (will be two figs but future waves will likely be 4)G.I. Joe Wave 6- JanuaryBack to the Future Wave 1- February Brian Flynn also discussed in recent interviews that the next waves will likely contain Big Lob and Pythona, and that at some point he plans to make Red Shadows characters in O-ring based off the 5poa figures, hinting at Baron Iron Blood. And inevitably he's going to make major army builders and may offer them in kind of a bundle for fans who army build. On another note he said he'd like to revisi Big Trouble in Little China as O-Ring once Super7's done a few more franchises in the style.
>>11551485*October thru February
>>11551485Flynn also says he's likely going to try a second time to crowd fund the Cobra Mothership, but is sort of waiting to grow Reaction+, because everyone started asking him about it AFTER it was confirmed he was doing a full line of O-rings and supposedly the demand keeps getting higher with each wave and people not wanting to buy originally wanting the Mothership when they didn't own any of the core characters.There's also a vehicle they have designed but haven't announced yet, worrying it's too early.
>>11551336They're quite good, not as good as the Classified figures, because they're some south american toy company. I got a Doomtrooper at SDCC last year, a couple months before their actual release date. So he's held up fine and can't complain.If they had been 1:18, I'd own a dozen.Do note that the promo images features paint apps that yuo won't see on the actual figure. Check my photo and compare it to BBTS's to see what's missing .
>>11550496I feel like switching from Classifed style articulation to Maflex is kinda missing the point
>>11551502I feel like the concept probably deserves a second chance but I think they should have announced it after the ReAciton+ line launched.
>>11551485that Python BAT has scrotum shading
>>11551909I didn't notice it, but he does have a faint stripe over his balls.
>>11551856They should have, but I don't think Hasbro wanted to announce it yet, because Super7 wouldn't answer on if the new Viper was a one off figure or not, only to then reveal late into the campaign that there was going to be a full O-ring line. The biggest complaint everyone had was they didn't own any of the major characters in O-ring, and most people, including Super7 viewed the Reaction Joe's as simply place holders until O-rings could be made. Why buy something when you're not invested in the line and that only vintage collectors might want? Hasbro could have also stood to promote the campaign on the Hasbro Pulse website and in streams. After-all they got that Skystriker made that fans were lukewarm on, and that was boring compared to the Mothership, which was a light-up playset that doubled as a vehicle and could really rival the Terrordrome. Myself I'm currently balls deep into Reaction+ after at first being unsure if I really wanted to commit to another line, but the figures are perhaps some of the best Joes.
>>11552015
>>11551918BAT-toe
>>11552015The one thing about ReAction+ that I don't like is that thy are extremely skimpy on accessories. They're great representations of the characters but it does bum me out a bit that Duke doesn't come with a helmet, back pack or binoculars, and that Snake Eyes doesn't even come with an uzi. I feel like they should at least consider doing some kind of accessory pack somewhere down the line.
>>11552056Even more egregious that they're like $22. The BATs are probably the only ones that come with a reasonable amount of accessories.
>>11552056Yeah, standard load-out for the line is typically as many as 2 accessories per figure unless it's character specific to have more, for example the Bats including 5 hands a backpack, plus a rifle. Wave 1's comic book Snake Eyes came with an Uzi, a backpack, an a sword, but Wave 3 Sunbow came with just the small sword he had in the show, but should have had the pistol he had in the Joe movie. His Reaction figure had the pistol for some reason. I'm not really bothered by it, because there will inevitably be a dozen Snake Eyes figures, and the pistol I would guess will show up at some point. Duke on the otherhand just doesn't have as many items he used in the cartoons, so it's forgivable; they tried by giving him the headband. I could see them maybe doing the jetpack version, but Hasbro literally already did the idea, so there may not be as much urgancy. The line being primarily cartoon and comic based limits what a Joe comes with. Wild Bill they gave a pistol, but I honestly can't remember him using a gun in the show.>>11552060Several of the Hasbro reissues only include one or two accessories as well and were part of pricey two-packs or Transformers sets. Some such as the Stinger Driver include nothing.
>>11551485I like that BAT sculpt, and I do hope that the proper black color is coming for it. They made a 5-POA version right out of the gate with the license, but for the O-ring version all they've done is fuck with the patience of customers.
>>11552078I'm sorry but I think that the Transformer crossover was dumb. Brawn and not Bumblebee should have been the AWE Striker, with an easy repaint for Beachcomber. And the re-re-re-re-used Baroness mold is showing its age with the bad hairline and overall look that made it look like a KO figure. Soundwave as the Thunder Machine was also dumb, especially the very cheap-looking Zartan and Zarana (and no Thrasher).
After the Pythona release, who do you think will be the next female released in Classified?Not counting SnowCat Lady Jaye.
>>11552525Either Retro Baroness or that rumored Heartwrencher.
>>11552525Bombstrike in the 2-pack with Blackout (her brother that joined COBRA)
My buddy got his Rattler haslab last week and we did an unboxing in his basement with a couple beers. It's amazing even better than I expected. The thing took up his whole coffee table. I can't believe how big it is. I wish I pulled the trigger on one but just nowhere to put it and display it properly.
>>11554000It's a space rape for sure but it's a very pretty toy
Is anyone still here or did you move to the other thread
>>11558381Right around now is when I would've made a new thread, but everyone seems content to use the retarded spammer's thread, so oh well. I was getting tired of doing it anyway.
Blergh I missed out on Trench Viper and modular fortress kit, and now it is selling 2x MSRP on ebay. Since when this line become annoying FOMO bait to collect? People are really rattled by the Rattler, Crystal Ball has been annoying to find, and now this...
