So in case you don’t know, NECA made a Donatello’s Lab from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or TMNT for short. This was a $300!!! made to order set. When they finally started shipping it out, people were getting multiple sets even if they only ordered one. NECA neglected to say anything about this for like a month, until they sent everyone a threatening email that they need to return the set. Their claim is that they were “changing the warehouse system” and it led to duplicated orders. Well, now they’re saying that if you don’t return the set, you will be charged for any additional sets, despite this being a clear violation of FTC laws. What does /toy/ think of this situation? Is NECA in the right? Are people who keep their labs stealing from collectors?
>>11542848>you will be charged for any additional setsWe've already covered this in the NECA thread where you lost your shit. ALSO you're posting an OLD picture, they dropped their threat to charge people after their legal team told them they had no grounds. NOBODY has been charged for extra shipments. You're a lying troll.
>>11542848In before NECAtroll comes in with "EVERYONE'S TROLLING BUT ME AND YOU SUCK DICK AND YOU'RE A TROLL AND YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS AS CUSTOMERS BECAUSE I SAY SO!"The law is the law. NECA can't legally charge someone for something they didn't order and is 100% their own mistake. The honor system does mean that you should send the extra one back simply on good general principle, though. Personally I'd send it back but ONLY if NECA fronted the shipping costs to do so because why should I eat the cost for someone else's mistake?
>>11542859AGAIN, just as in the NECA thread, you make false claims and call names with ZERO PROOFMY ADVICE FOR OTHERS is DONT engage this fucking TROLL. He will lie and screech in circles while NEVER giving a shred of proof. He will waste your time. After this post I'm closing this tab. OP is literally mentally ill and simply trolling for attention.
>>11542866I'd send it back (at their expense) and if they threatened me, I'd send both back (at their expense) and demand a full refund.
>>11542866Fuck off, you were the one trolling every fucking time. You were always wrong.
It should be known that this wasn’t just limited to the lab, this happened with the Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Baby Beetlejuice Prop Replica as well.
>>11542894It should be known that you're a troll and reposting shit that's been solved for months and months now. Kys.
>>11542886How is it not current? People are just now getting charged for the labs.
>>11542899Fuck off you lazy troll
Just send them back the outer box with all the broken NECA figures that you've accumulated over the years inside.
>>11542907That'd be an empty box then.
Isnt this old news? This happened last year right?
>>11542913The initial email did happen several months ago, but NECA after giving people months to send the labs back have begun charging people for the duplicate labs.
>>11542913Some guy is probably doing it for the shits and giggles while knowing the NECA guy will come in raging and insulting everyone. In other words, it's quality bait that apparently worked.
>>11542919What are you even talking about? I was never banned and this isn’t a troll thread, hell, I didn’t even say anything negative about NECA. I tried to be fair and open minded with the post and just provide the facts of the matter.
>>11542848lmao, what's to stop people from cancelling the credit card they have on file? They can't charge a dead card?
>>11542933The fact that they would be even further breaking the law and they could face a lawsuit or even legal action?
>>11542937It's illegal to cancel your credit card? Interesting...
>>11542926Motherfucker we have eyes, we can read file names you dumb asshole. This is a troll thread.
>>11542941No, but not paying for a product you refuse to send back is stealing and obviously illegal.
>>11542952Not according to >>11542856
>>11542956Lawyers have chimed in on this matter and said that law doesn’t apply.
>>11542952Only when it's a NECA product, apparently. I don't know why you'd want to keep it though. It's gonna BREKA eventually...
>>11542993You're a fucking idiot
>>11542935And you proved that OP posted quality rage-bait.
>>11543061No, you proved you're a fucking moron.
>>11542914>>11542925Ok, thanks for clearing this up. It really did just seem like bait so i was kinda confused it got brought back up out of the blue.
>>11542848Hey janny, you should delete this thread and ban the first six posters. Look at the images being posted, look at the filenames. They're not toy related, theyre just troll bait. >>11542866 is an especially bad troll.
>>11543002Not enough of one to buy a NECA product.
>>11543120No, that means you're a fag with no taste.
>>11542848I swear I heard this exact same situation on this board back in November or December. Is this still the same shit?SAME AS IT EVER WAS
>>11542864>gives the whitehouse 5% of our companyoh look now we can
>>11543139I don't care about shitty neca toys so I can't say I am familiar with your 2 points of articulation companies issues.
>>11542848The customers are not to blame for NECA's incompetence
>>11542910I see you're a smart consumer who either never buys NECA
>>11543200No, I buy tons, just not a dumbass like you.
>>11543201You should actually post your collection sometime.
>>11543128I'd rather have no taste than taste a NECA product.
>>11543233Spoken like a true fucktard
>>11543201Oh, I guess you never took them out of the package thenDon't do it
>>11543245Only a loser like you would keep anything in package
>>11543200
>>11543249Can you post your collection with a timestamp? I’d love to see your collection.
>>11543299
>>11543293Bit rude
>>11543245Sometimes they are broken in package tho.
>>11543472They aren't
>>11543474NTA and not in reference to NECA but I just got exactly that from Crapazom. A toy below a plastic jug of protein powder in a box with nothing else (no paper, no bubble wrap). The clam shell/package was crushed below the 3lbs of protein powder and the right arm of the toy was actually broken at the upper arm part. They accepted it for return but it was the last one of these toys (on crapazom) so I am SOL.
>>11543623Many such cases.
>>11543317dangerously based. great setup anon.
>>11543674They stole the image from Facebook.
>>11544059I agree
>>11544059No, you're just a psychopath
>>1154295239 U.S. Code § 3009 states otherwise.https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/39/3009
>>11544098>>11542986
>>11544059Cats.
Bump
>>11542848Classic NECA moment.
>>11542910this is the one time i want someone to repy with a laughing redditfrog
>>11546713Rude
>>11546685Do it then, I wouldn’t blame you
Did anyone here actually receive a second lab or was it really just a big nothingburger?
>>11550638Fuck off bumping this shit you retarded troll
>>11550640Why do you call everyone else exactly what you are?
>>11550638Nothingburger.
>>11550638Most people were smart enough to skip the $300 shoebox diorama with a foam board lid.
>>11551900You just love being a moron that's wrong about everything huh?
>>11551903>wrongWhat exactly am I wrong about? The majority of people on the board didn't buy it, it was $300, and it did include a piece of foam board that goes on top of it.
>>11543317This is like a smaller scale of grandma and her 12+inch creepy dolls.Only when you pass away, it'll be easier to clean up and sell.
>>11552035That grandma is cool as fuck.I wonder how much that diorama went for, because STar Trek has been dead for almost 2 decades now, so there aren't many people willing to pay American dollars for something like that anymore.I knew a teacher who had a massive star trek collection in her office in college. I'd visit her every semester while i was there and saw her a couple of times after that and it kept growing and growing. Very friendly teacher and knew everything about the series.
>>11542848You have to be an ultra dumb fucking retard to buy an empty diorama set with a single table for $300. I always defend /toy/‘s spending decisions, but it is getting difficult as of late. You guys are diluted.
>>11552014So everything is wrong. Retard.>>11552083Get fucked spaz.
>>11552126>replying to (2) common sense commentsseethe
>>11552137>common senseRetard troll
>>11552083Not defending it, but I believe it came with more than just the table
>>11552126>So everything is wrong.With your brain? Yes. Everything is wrong with your brain. From Autism to Zellweger syndrome, you've got the whole alphabet covered.Most people didn't buy the diorama. It was $300. It did have a foam board lid.Keep throwing a tantrum about facts, schizo.
>>11552895Most people did buy it, you're a retarded troll. You haven't said facts, you're only shitposting.
>>11552938iykyk
>>11552898Most people that collect NECA didn't buy it, and most people on the board don't even collect NECA.>You haven't said factsThe diorama was $300.The diorama did come with a piece of foam board that goes on top of it.The majority of people on this board did not buy it.All facts.Nothing I said was wrong, you are just throwing a tantrum because you are assblasted about my flippant tone. Ask your doctor to prescribe you some mood stabilizers.
>>11542848The answer to this question is decided whether you live in a high or low trust society.
>>11553114Everything you've said is wrong. You've also shown you're just a retarde troll. Zero facts. Rot in Hell already.
>>11553300rude
>>11553300Prove it.https://store.necaonline.com/products/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-cartoon-sewer-lair-donatellos-lab-diorama$299.99Comes with a "sturdy street topper" that the image clearly shows is foam board.Production run of less than 2000, as seen by the carton number. You won't prove shit though.
>>11553114>and most people on the board don't even collect NECAHonestly I feel like most that post here about NECA are workers form other companies or something. This debacle would be a lot of "Thank for the free gift suckers" if collectors were really a thing but instead it's this very weird back and forth on some story like the anon wants a bigger PR mess than what's already happen. Hell even the defenders are strange in what hills they die on. It's like Dead Internet Theory: corporate edition.
>>11553333God you're stupid. You do know that isn't the full run right? There's different shipements, especially for shipments of 2 or more. Fucktard.
>>11553338>"Thank for the free gift suckers" if collectors were really a thingHow fucking dumb are you? That's not only illegal but morally wrong. Kys.
>>11553355If that's the case, post another carton that has a different quantity on it.>There's different shipementsIrrelevant. Those boxes are labelled like that when the production run is complete. If they get shipped in different containers, they don't rebox them or relabel the boxes because a couple of pallets don't fit in the container. You seriously don't know what you are talking about and are just making shit up as you go. Holy fuck, you are a lying retard.
>>11553366>Those boxes are labelled like that when the production run is completeFor that particular shipment's run, yes. You are a fucking simpleton.
>>11553333>They only made 1912 of these thingsThe gunship you hate so much already has more than double this lmao
>>11553369>For that particular shipment's run, yes.Lol.
>>11553384If there's an anon that's hating the gunship, it isn't me. I haven't really kept up with that crowdfund. I'd probably buy it if I was still collecting 3¾" scale, but I haven't bought any since Hasbro abandoned the scale and focused on BS not long after the Disney acquisition of Lucasfilm.
>>11553384Take your meds, schizo
>>11553338it's about 25% broken man children, 25% the people that make/sell the toys and the 50% left is just 4chan Jannies/mods back filling the traffic >>11553357(You)
>>11553355>>11553369That isn't how factories operate. Production runs aren't determined by shipments. Restarting production is an expensive process, which was the reason they refused to do a second production run to replace all the dioramas that they failed to fulfill due to their fuckup.
You got NECA’d
>>11554177You fucking moron, they aren't from the same run, so the numbers on that box are not the same as what's on another run's. Dipshit.
>>11554184No the other anon is right, looks like there was only one run and one shipment. The numbers on that box look right for the total production run
>>11554184No, you're a fucking moron that doesn't know how manufacturing is handled.>so the numbers on that box are not the same as what's on another run's.Post another outer carton with a different quantity then.
>>11554192>looks like there was only one run and one shipmentYou're wrong. Multiple orders shipped in another box and are not part of that count fucktard.
>>11554219If you had proof that your claim was true, you would have posted it by now.
>>11554243You can check Twitter for it, faggot. Kys already.
>>11554245I had a two minute look on both Twitter and Reddit because that's all the time I am wasting doing your work for you. Reddit was the only other place that I found an outer carton photo.Surprise surprise, it's a qty of 1912.If you want people to believe your claim then you need to provide the evidence yourself, but you won't because you are a lying faggot that makes up bullshit about how factories work.
>>11554264Yeah, because you're looking at the same shipment you fucking dunce. There's more than that for other shipments.the only lying faggot has been you, shit for brains.
>>11554267Provide proof that there was another run.
>>11554270It's the same run, different shipments dickbag. Those numbers are for the single boxes.
>>11554267Provide proof that there was another shipment.No proof?Disregarded.>>11554273Not what you said here >>11553369 and here >>11554184Also not how the production process works. They don't label cartons according to shipments. Your larp is admirable, but you are larping in the face of someone that has been a production manager in manufacturing and also worked in logistics.Maybe step out into the real world instead of spending 18 hours a day lying on the internet.
>>11554304It is literally how it works. Get fucked you lying asshole. They do label them according to shipments, singles, doubles, etc are different. Idiot.
>>11554342Post an outer carton with a total qty other than 1912 then, you stupid fucking retard.You can't, because you are a lying sack of shit.
>>11554264that box is in really rough shape
>>11554445That was one of the ones that was incorrectly shipped to somebody that already received one and was returned to NECA to be inspected and sent to the person that should have received it in the first place.I'm not surprised it looks that rough after two trips through the NECA warehouse being manhandled by tards and two trips through the US postal system handled by people that don't get paid enough to care.
I bet if I added the word "troll" to 4chanx filters, only necanon's posts would disappear
>>11554462How about you filter yourself and fuck off the board.
>>11554506You first
>>11542848Imagine just not seeing this and getting charged randomly. Lol Neca collectors deserve this.
>>11554567You deserve it if you stole merch, yes.
>>11554571Not stolen when they sent it as a gift
>>11554567Imagine being sent another one but never receiving it due to UPS incompetence/porch pirates etc and then NECA illegally charges your card without permission.It's probably why their threat to charge people who didn't return it was completely empty, because any lawyer with a brain that functions barely above sycophantic fanboy level would know that scenario would fuck the company hard.
lawyers have chimed in
>>11554574They aren't sent as a gift, so you're stealing merch.
>>11554590Wait, it wasn’t a gift?
>>11554590The FTC says, according to 39 U.S. Code § 3009, that if you receive merchandise that you didn't order, you have a legal right to keep it as a free gift.The FTC also says that if if a shipper makes an honest mistake, you should show good faith in working with the company to get back the merchandise without the receiver having to pay for it, but to also state that you reserve the right to keep the item. But it explicitly DOESN'T state that there is a legal requirement that the receiver do this, nor that there is any legal means for the shipper to charge the receiver if they choose to keep the item.Should=/=legally obligation.>>11554607No, but you are legally entitled to treat it as a gift. Enjoy.
Isn’t it weird that NECA offered $100 in store credit to those who returned their labs but nothing to the people who received clearly used labs? They’re the real victims here.
>>11554609And that does not apply here. So you are a dumb faggot 4channer.
>>11554628>clearly used labsThey weren't used, dick for brains.
>>11554631I think you're misremembering the reddit thread
>>11554637I think you're a moron.
>>11554631>And that does not apply hereYes it does. There is no provision in the statute for "we accidentally mailed out extra dioramas because we hired our warehouse monkeys straight off the short bus."The only exceptions are>free samples clearly and conspicuously marked as such>merchandise mailed by a charitable organization soliciting contributionshttps://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/39/3009Eat shit, pigfucker.
>>11554663This is my first post in the thread. And no, he proved that you're wrong and that NECA is breaking the law by demanding customers return the duplicates.
>>11554657>yore wrong because I say soShow me where in the statute it states that if a person is mailed something in error, they are legally required to return it.It shouldn't be that hard. Oh wait, it's going to be impossible because you are more retarded than a NECA warehouse worker.
>>11554670They are 100% required to return it. If they don't they get charged for it. And there isn't shit you can do about it.
>>11554672>They are 100% required to return itPost the section of the statute that says they are legally required to return it.
>>11554672no one was charged, that's why they added the vague bits about future orders on their own store. its the only weight they have to swing around and its uncomfortably clear
>>11554686Yes people were charged. And they added the banning as extra punishment.
>>11554672Ethically that is absolutely true, and I would have if I gave a shit about turtles. And if NECA threatened me with future UNAUTHORIZED charges over it, I'd return both of them and demand a full refund. Morally-speaking it's just the right thing to do with not keeping something that you didn't pay for, and I think NECA should reward those who did with some sort of gift in return.BUT legally people will still probably have to return them anyway. It's like postal theft: when the mailman accidentally delivers a package to you that's not yours, you're not legally allowed to open it nevertheless keep it. That's postal theft, and is a felony. And that's the angle that has me seeing things NECA's way. I'm not defending them because their quality is shit and their NECAguy here is a real joyless asshole who forgets that hobbies are supposed to be fun and enjoyable, but I do think they're in the legal right in every regard except for threats of unauthorized charges.
>>11554691>extra punishment
>>11554590Not really if you dont see the email and know it was a mistake. Most people dont ever look at emails from Hasbro or Neca because its usually news letter spam. They would have gotten fucked if they actually tried to charge the cards and people priced proof they didnt read the email. Would get the extra Playstation plus you'd get to sue Neca and get even more money.
>>11554706>a thief making excuses
>>11554710You can't moralfag while one of Neca's toy designers grooms minors and makes excuses for it.
>>11554710Unauthorized charges for your own mistakes are also stealing. It's also bad form to ban people, especially if they turned out to be repeat-buyers of all things NECA. Repeat-customers are at the heart of any long-term business plan.
>>11554713Is this true? Which one(
>>11554713Get fucked you sorry sack of shit
>>11555517In all fairness people get arrested all the time for evil scumbag things that had absolutely nothing to do with their employers, and it's unfair to pin the crime of someone on an entire company. That doesn't excuse NECA being hostile assholes towards customers, but at the same time the crime of the individual doesn't incriminate the company either.
>>11555517Hey mods, this guy us doxxing people. This is all non toy related off topic personal information
>>11555545>>11555546Off topic doxxing
>>11555546OK I see your perspective, and it's logical. And there is no moral high road while treating customers like shit and making threats.
>>11555549doxxing is unmasking anons like someone did with jannies a few months back, digfging up people's home addresses, personal information, and stuff. Those links do absolutely none of that.
>>11555550They didn't treat customers like shit. They rightfully were taking out thieves. You are twisted if you think anything that retard says is logical.
>>11555546So you're trolling with false information while trying to make excuses for thieves. You should be in jail.
>>11555555Nice gets, 100% right, too.
>>11555562You're a psycho. Anyone that kept stolen merch doesn't need to be a customer anyway. They should be locked up. They are not needed.
>Any posts disagreeing with NECAnon get deletedHe's either a janny or a janny's butt-buddy.
>>11556080explains a lot about the state of the board, really
>>11556080>>11556083Yeah, it means you keep trolling and not learning your lesson.
>>11556135I said you're on the right side morally and people should have returned what they didn't pay for to have good morals, and NECA should reward them for doing it. And you have a fucking jannie threaten me with a ban for "trolling?" What the fuck, bro? You really are a jaded bitter asshole. Yeah I know that I and anyone else who stands up to you are getting banned, but find some happiness in your life. I meant what I said about hobbies being fun and enjoyable. Have a nice day. See you in three days when the ban you are about to hit me with ends.
>>11542848>>11542856>>11542894IMO if a company is so incompetent that they accidentally send free merchandise to an unrelated person(and in this case a BUNCH of people) they have essentially given it away and have no legal claim or recourse to demand it back. If you want to be a "good" person or whatever, sure, ship it back. But you are not under any obligation legally. Pic related is Amazon's policy on accidentally sending you free shit. And who honestly cares if they "ban" you from the Neca store? Just buy them from target or whatever for less money anyways. >>11556187He doesn't have the power to ban you. He just goes crying to the mods by spamming "off-topic" reports. Just structure your post differently so that it at least contains on-topic discussion and his favourite weapon(ratting to the mods) becomes powerless. See part one of this message as for example.
>>11556308Hey mods, this guy is shit talking you. Make sure to look at his posts. All of them.
>>11556308You are under legal obligation to send it back. But a troll like you doesn't seem to know anything at all.
>>11556312>You are under legal obligation to send it backPresent your evidence.
>>11556308Super sketchy. This guy is telling people how to avoid bans.
>>11556312the law is actually on the consumer‘s side in this case, its called "unordered merchandise"
>>11554692It's not postal theft if it has your name and address on the label.
>>11556314All right here. It is also illegal to put squirrels down one's pants for the purposes of gambling.
>be single handedly the best jedi Luke minifig ever made>come in a dirt cheap set with dark troopers and some decent play features>only issue is with having no hair piece but it's okay as it's literally just the tan classic hair piece that's cheaper than dirtThe Mandolorian (and it's lego subtheme) truly was the best thing to come out of the disney era
>>11556688oh godI just noticed this isn't /lg/ oh fuck
>>11556695Says a lot that a Lego Schizo would post in this thread
>>11556703It was an accident, calm down
>>11557677Yes, you've told that lie before. Please go fuck yourself.
>>11557876As much as they pay him to claim people telling NECA to go fuck themselves after the company illegally attempted to extort money out of them are "criminals".
We still talking about the pedophile groomer NECA designer?
>>11557876Yes and we all saw how you lied about that even then, get fucked already. You twist everything and lie like crazy.
>>11558059What was the glitch?
>>11558059Oh right, more of your bullshit lies. You have a serious problem. Get help.
>>11558059I remember you pulled the foot out, sure. Wasn't a very convincing shitpost.
>>11558059What’d you end up doing with these? Those red scouts are worth a pretty penny.
>>11558078Right, so you lied and popped the foot out. You've proven you're a shithead troll already.
>>11558086You talk like a spastic child. That tracks with your autistic shitposting.
>>11558059Is golden girls really that popular?
>>11558213Golden Girls is like other classic Americana tv shows like I Love Lucy, Bewitched, or Munsters where people recall the show's general premise but can't remember a single episode from it. And the “fans” of the show certainly aren’t the people that buy toys. NECA needs to stop making too many niche things in an already niche market. It’s reminding me of Super7.
>>11558219You should stop talking, since all you seem capable of doing is being wrong about everything.
>>11558222It’s the truth, NECA vastly overestimates how popular something really is all the time. Look at Dinosaurs, Gargoyles, and the still in stock years later Golden Girls. They need to reevaluate their strategy and just stick to their golden goose, TMNT and horror/horror adjacent stuff. That stuff sells the best.
>>11558222Show us your golden girls collection granma.
>>11558241I think you need to reevaluate your posting, because again you're talking out of your ass and should stop.
>>11558471No that just makes you a shitbag of a person. So no, they are not right and I pity how miserable you must be to hate good things like that.
>>11558481You're a piece of shit scalper scum
>>11558481Thanks for the order numbers. Going to have them investigate you.
>>11558496Investigate him for what? Their mistake?
>>11558479>you're a shitbag for not liking the boomer sitcom I only like because NECA made figures for it>>11558496>ooga booga I'm going to have NECA investigate you for buying multiple figures when the NECA Store forced a minimum purchase quantityI think I might ease up on buying NECA figures. It seems that owning too many of their figures can lead to a build up of toxins in the brain which turns their loyal customers into schizo retards.
>>11558727You're autistic as fuck if you think that's somehow "embarrassing"
>>11558727I bought both AC/DC figures for my boomer dad, but I am not surprised at all that they are notorious pegwarmers. My dad wouldn't have known they existed if I wasn't a toy collector. And that's the issue with shit like that. The boomer fans that would buy those lines aren't looking in the Collector Spot, and their target audience mostly don't give a shit about boomer crap like Golden Girls and AC/DC except to buy a Betty White figure to go with their Deadpool, or to buy them for their boomer parents.
>>11558769>It's found the people that want it already.Maybe they should stop restocking it if it's already found the 0.000005% of the population that want their shelves lined with horny gilfs.
>>11558953AC/DC has millions of fans and is one of those rare bands that just can't become has-beens. They move merch. It's just that most don't go to WalMart to shop for AC/DC, and at NECA prices many won't "impulse-buy" it either if they just happen to be in the right aisle to even see it.
>>11542952That's not illegal if it's been sent to you in lazy error by incompetent people that don't know how to work a computer working the desks at some company. It becomes a "mystery freebie" in the mail.
>>11562568There is no trolling. You saying there's trolling is trolling. If someone sends you a thing you didn't order, it is not "illegal" to keep it. State the laws that describe what you're saying, or just stop trolling with falsehood.
>>11562630You are a troll, you always will be a troll. Kys.
