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Previous tariff thread:
>>11540362

De Minimis is officially over and Japan Post suspends shipments to the US. You can still ship stuff using DHL and Fedex I believe, but be prepared to be charged ridiculous import fees.
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Will all this tariff nonsense make you actually stop buying toys? Or maybe limit your spending? I for one have canceled a lot of preorders, but hope to still get my must have figures. Hopefully this blows over soon.
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>>11549034
>Hopefully this blows over soon.
I hope so too, but I have little hope. Even if the goober did have a stroke and we get someone new in charge, I don't know if they'd "fix" things.
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>>11549034
>Will all this tariff nonsense make you actually stop buying toys?
No. Will I be a bit more choosey with my imports? Yes. Will I just start buying them from Amazon and other stores domestically? Yes. I was only saving like $20 by importing directly from Japan. I'll be fine.

>Hopefully this blows over soon
Also this. I have a feeling this will be over sooner than later.
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>>11549045
It’s always going to be zionists in charge of america anon. Not much is going to get better until the country is forced to play ball with other powers instead of unilaterally thrusting itself into everybody’s affairs on behalf of the jews.
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>>11549052
If that’s the case then why did they allow de minimis before?
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Here’s a post I saw on Reddit of someone’s order from Hobby Genki. Roughly $130 and had to pay roughly $40 in fees to DHL. This shit is crazy.
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>>11549084
For $130 in toys that actually isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Yeah it's still pretty terrible but I was expecting worse to be honest.
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>>11549084
How long until they cut DHL off again though? Is Amiami shipping to the US at all right now?
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>>11549101
I’m not sure, but amiami is not shipping right now. All stuff is being put on hold.
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>>11549034
>Will all this tariff nonsense make you actually stop buying toys?
No, why? This is a luxury hobby so I just have to be a little bit more selective on ordering big ass items.
>>11549084
I expected a ton worse honestly. I can live with this as I always order in bulk.
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>>11549104
>pretentious asshole response
Hey Necanon, I thought you hid tariff threads?
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The tariff on toys (from china) will be lifted around November so that Trump can be claimed responsible for saving Christmas.
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>>11549109
It’s already too late at this point though. Christmas is fucked.
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>>11549031
Praise God that I got a chance to get MAFEX Brown Suit Wolverine for a decent price before this madness.
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>>11549106
Kys with your off topic grudge posting retard
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>>11549106
>projecting this hard
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>>11549109
Its a several-months process from loading shit up in China, shipping out to sea, arriving in the docks in the US, being checked in, loaded into trucks, shipped out to individual stores, and eventually stocked.

Most retails have Christmas stuff sitting in their backrooms by July/August.
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Looks like that one anon was right
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>>11549106
Are you okay?
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>>11549104
Yeah if it was like this every time it wouldn't be quite so bad. But it's so fucking all over the place...
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>>11549109
kek, Turnip prolly think like this, but shit is over, you'll have way fewer dolls and like it!
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>>11549135
What are you even trying to say?
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>>11549120
Yep. War it is.
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>>11549120
Qrd?
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>>11549145
That it's not consistent and we're all fucked.
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>>11549150
WW3 in two weeks
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>>11549149
>>11549120
>>11549150
Americans sure are war hungry niggers and need to make everything about armed conflict. Because you need slaves to make everything for you.
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>>11549084
>2 imported action figures = $128.93
that's almost cheap!
>tariff = $19.34
Ehhhh... ok, I guess I'll eat it
>processing fee to collect tariff: $17
WTF
That's like being charged an extra to process sales tax. It's a giant scam by DHL.
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>>11549084
Fuuuuck Hobby Genki just sent me an email about my Toga revoltech, have people had success cancelling and getting refunded? I already paid in full for the figure
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I wanted to see if I could take advantage of the situation to have Nin Nin move my single item into their private warehouse in case I need to ship multiple things together. But they won't do it.
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>>11549212
I have a bad feeling we'll see a lot of this happening. It's amazing how one dipshit can suddenly break the whole world apart.
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>>11549244
I have honestly never noticed the actions of a politician cause a negative direct impact on my personal life until now. What happened to nothing ever happens?
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>>11549034
>>11549045
>>11549048
>this blows over soon

De minimis has nothing to do with tariffs and is what is suspending shipments from other countries to the US. It's also not going to change. And it's unlikely that even a change in administration would really change it back.

It's going to effect anyone (not just toy collectors) who buys small batch things from China, Japan, Europe, and many other countries.

In a way, even though I am mostly against this administration and what they are doing, this is actually going to be a good thing in the long run for American workers and American companies, because it will bring some business back to the USA - largely by making a more even playing field. But for shit that isn't going to get manufactured in the USA and hasn't been, it's going to make stuff expensive all the way around.
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>>11549031
well, hurf durf im retarded because i waited long for no good reason
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>>11549286
>De minimis has nothing to do with tariffs
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De minimis is about NOT paying the tariff though, right?
Since de minimis has been suspended, you're now subject to the new tariff fees and other taxes.
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>>11549286
>De minimis has nothing to do with tariffs
De minimis has everything to do with tariffs, though. It was just a stipulation that you didn't have to pay them on small-value inbound packages.

The logic doesn't even make sense, because it DOES make sense to allow small value personal items/purchases to come through if you're just buying a couple items. It'd be different if you were buying products by the palette to be made in China cheaply and then sold in the US. You can understand the logic of enticing people to move the production of those items to the US and the tariffs are a penalty of sorts of doing business that way.

Buying a couple trinkets from China or Japan that'll never be made here shouldn't be forced for this to happen. That's why De minimis existed in the first place.
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Reminder that one of the driving decisions on paper to end de Minimis was to prevent fentanyl deaths.
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What about figures that's were shipped out months ago? Mine is over 60 days in shipped by boat from Japan.
Will I have to pay? I'm okay if I do, I just don't want it shipped back.
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>>11549157
Your skin matches your post content Athena.
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I JUST started wanting to collect anime figures now that I Have the money for it. Im just hoping Kappa Hobby ships my order. I bought the Rabbit Hole Miku nendo and that made it past de minimize just in time and I'm waiting on her.

My chocolate and vanilla figs are U.S. based so hopefully I'll get those by March 2026.

I should've just held my nose and voted for Harris. I didn't know dumpster was going to pull this crap.
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Didn't we nuke these guys twice? Why did we let them tarrif us in the first place? 2 obviously wasn't enough. Happy Trump is making these Tojos cry.
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I honestly wonder if things will ever get better. I joined the workforce around Covid and it took me years to move up due to Covid red tape. I finally make good money, have decent savings and I'm ready to buy house, then Trump comes and fucks the economy, then continues to make everything worse.
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>>11549382
The economy was fucked long before Trump. You didn't stand s chance zoomie-kun.
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>>11549286
>this is actually going to be a good thing in the long run for American workers and American companies, because it will bring some business back to the USA
Imagine being this delusional
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>>11549031
Europe already blocked all mail shipments of any kind to US.
The problem is that the retarded tariff scam requires customs are paid BEFORE the shipment and literally not a single country in the world has a system for that, nor cares enough to create one. It's easier to just block all mail to US.
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>>11549252
Are you an actual child or are toys legitimately the only thing you've ever spent your money on? The actions of politician have been affecting the cost of everything I buy, since I started buying things myself. If this is the first time politics have actually directly impacted your life, you must be the most sheltered little boy on the planet.
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>>11549031
If you're Ebaying then be sure to buy from domestic sellers who have everything in-hand.
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>>11549031
I may slow down but won't stop. Most of the items I buy are rare 30+ year old toys that I'm finding for great deals. Considering the $ I've saved by hunting for the best price, paying an extra 15% + DHL's fees isn't too awful. If was someone who tended to order really expensive stuff I'd be sweating (but maybe if I was dropping thousands on my hobby a few extra hundred wouldn't matter to me)
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>>11549329
>>11549305
De minimis meant goods came into the country without having to pay any port/custom duties and/or tariffs but it's not a tariff and thus isn't under the Constitution where they are listed as a congressional power (so a new congress can change anything any president does). And tariffs constitutional are also subject to judicial review, e.g. court rulings. The Courts can't really fuck with de minimis, it's well established regulatory and changing those isn't going to impact someone who would have standing to sue - sure some idiots might file a court case but it likely will get tossed out.

The point of de minimis was cheap shit (e.g. $1) wasn't worth collecting import duties and taxes on in the 1930s when it was instituted even though $1 then was actually a lot more valuable than $5-10 now, because the amount of time, people, resources, etc. involved to police, charge, process, etc. the duty or custom charges on something that sold for $1, was not worth the 'reward' in the 1930s.

The problem was that de minimis crept up slowly ($5, but not until 1990) but in the last three decades, once China entered the world markets, just ballooned ridiculously.

It jumped to $200 in 1993, till it hit $800 in 2015. There's no reason for it to be $800. That's China sending 2-5 cheap flat screen TV sets without any duty being paid on them in 2015 and still would be more than one cheap TV set last year.

When they raised it to $800, 134 million packages were received under de minimis. Last year, it was 1.36 BILLION packages.

If you don't think that's hurting the US economy or workers, then you don't understand math.

>>11549399
If you don't think $64 billions annually between 2015 and 2025 didn't knee cap some then existing US manufacturing jobs and workers, I feel sorry for your lack of education, sister.
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>>11549478
>It's actually a good thing that I'm paying double for my XXL undies from fleet farm

The level of cuckoldry Americans are capable of is staggering.

Funny you use TVs as an example, because the exact retard in office right now talked up Foxconn opening a plant here and they took a bunch of kickbacks, pocketed them, and fucked off. These new developments do not make it a smart idea to make the monumental investment to start producing most of this shit domestically. It would be less retarded to just eat part of the tariff cost until things change again
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>>11549478
The thing is nothing has really changed. It’s still not worth collecting: with this amount of packages it’s just a huge amount of people who need to be paid to do the work. A smarter administration simply would have lowered the exemption cap again.
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>>11549478
This guy is ultimately right. When Obama raised de minimis to $800 you had all these companies taking advantage of it and importing goods without having to pay import fees and the like. That is actively hurting the US economy. Instead of eliminating it outright though, they should've dropped it back to $200 and it would've been the best of both worlds. But unfortunately nuance isn't something the world is capable of in the year of our lord two thousand and twenty five.
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>>11549486
That's not at all what he's saying. He's saying there were people and companies who were taking advantage of the $800 threshold and that absolutely was causing harm to the economy. He's not saying it's good that it's eliminated entirely. Thanks for only proving what I said in my previous post about the lack of nuance int he world today.
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>>11549478
You cant reason with people here, im sure you know that by now.
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>devastates global economy
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves
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>>11549593
No way he’s resigning
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>>11549593
You wish you fucking dweeb
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>>11549394
This.
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>>11549593
There's been so much wishful thinking over this shit the last couple days but I think if it was as dire as people want to believe there would be leaks, the administration has proven incapable of keeping whistleblowers quiet.
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>>11549499
I think $400 would have been reasonable preferably $500, but getting rid of it entirely is retarded.
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>>11549593
Trump will die soon... maybe!
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>>11549649
We can all dream.
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>>11549593
No way in hell. If anything, I wouldn't be surprised if he changed the law so he could run for a third term. Would be funny to finally see him and Obama have their grudge match.
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Best silver lining I can hope for is people actually post pics their toys again instead of endless hype train FOMO posting. Maybe if you all stop jerking to the newest upcoming releases you'll actually appreciate what you ALREADY own.
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>>11549593
>Fucks over the globalists parasites that spent decades ruining the US economy
>This is somehow a bad thing
I applaud anyone who goes out of their way to remove the communist encroachment in the US markets. Other than that, fuck the global economy, it never once served the American people in the first place. Only took away jobs and forced the nation to be dependent on enemies for basic goods.
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>>11549688
>the president who is making the US government buy shares of companies is removing communism
lol what if anything he is doubling down on it harder than anyone before him
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>>11549593
There is no goddamned way that would ever happen. The man likes playing king way too much to ever quit on purpose.
Unless he was actually on his death bed and incapable of coming out on stage he ain't giving up his power and he might not even do it then since in his mind that would make him look weak.
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>>11549593
You better get ready for that third term because that's what we are getting in 2028. Trump 2028, globalists are fucked!
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Goddamn, why does collecting toys attract such mentally ill losers? Get your brains fixed you troons.
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>>11549709
I read that in Alex Jones's voice.



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